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Speaker 1: The late fifteen to ten touched up Suck. What's up?

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Speaker 2: Guys?

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Speaker 1: Welcome into a special edition of Chargers Weekly, Live from Indianapolis,

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty four, scouting Combine as was Joey by Mattmuddy

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Speaker 1: Smith in the Flesh though, brother.

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Speaker 3: I know exactly not not on a couple of TV

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Speaker 3: screens in Indianapolis in the radio row if you will,

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Speaker 3: area all the teams surrounding us. And this is Tuesday

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Speaker 3: that we're doing this. So we had the Joe Ortise

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Speaker 3: presser a little bit earlier. I have the one highlight

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Speaker 3: Jim harbonugh not going to speak to the media in

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Speaker 3: terms of people from the Chargers that will be.

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Speaker 1: Doing Jim said enough February first hundred percent.

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Speaker 3: So this has been and you know, to Jim's to

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Speaker 3: quote him, this is the time that Joe is Batman.

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Speaker 3: So this is when Batman is doing all the press.

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Speaker 3: And that's what Joe was doing earlier today had his presser,

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Speaker 3: did the CBS, the NBC, the Serious XM, all of

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Speaker 3: those rounds had it chance to catch up with them

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Speaker 3: a little bit after his presser, And I think it's

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Speaker 3: worth just sort of setting the tone what we heard

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Speaker 3: today and look, it's misinformation, it's misdirection, it's an agenda.

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Speaker 3: There's so many things that go into what a team

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Speaker 3: wants to present, and I think Joe did quite a

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Speaker 3: bit of that from the podium today.

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Speaker 1: He did seven AM pacifics, so it was early. A

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Speaker 1: lot of you guys probably watched that on a replay.

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Speaker 1: But you know, first of all, Joe's gonna tell us

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Speaker 1: what he's gonna do. No, okay, there was a lot

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Speaker 1: of questions about the cap and Keenan and Mike and

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Speaker 1: Joey and Khalil and what they're going to do there,

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Speaker 1: because that kind of sets the table for free agency.

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Speaker 1: He did, I think, unprompted, talked about the wide receiver

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Speaker 1: depth in the in the draft. Somebody asked them about

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Speaker 1: the offensive tackle and offensive line depth, and obviously said

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Speaker 1: good in both those fronts. But at number five overall,

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Speaker 1: there's so many different things that they can do. And

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Speaker 1: what JJ McCarthy and Michael Pennix and Bo Nix and

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Speaker 1: the guys outside of the top three quard by what

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Speaker 1: they do this week money could kind of dictate what

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Speaker 1: other teams are thinking about the quarterback and maybe trade

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Speaker 1: up for five.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I've done I don't know how many

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Speaker 3: combines going way back to when actually when NFL Network

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Speaker 3: really first jumped in with both feet. Unfortunately, they've gotten

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Speaker 3: out of the pool and they don't do nearly as

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Speaker 3: much as they used to. But I used to sit

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Speaker 3: on the field and I remember in the Andrew Luck

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Speaker 3: RG three draft that nobody wanted to throw, and you know,

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Speaker 3: Andrew Luck went. You know, obviously RG three was going

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Speaker 3: to run the forty. And Andrew Luck did everything and

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Speaker 3: all of but he didn't want to throw. And so

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Speaker 3: what my takeaway from that draft was Russell Wilson started throwing,

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Speaker 3: and he started spinning it. And the next thing you know,

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Speaker 3: Cousins Brandon Whedon gets out there and starts throwing and

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Speaker 3: he wasn't supposed to throw, and Ryan Tannehill Rantanna was

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Speaker 3: hurt so he couldn't. But then Kirk Cousin gets and

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Speaker 3: next thing you know, you've got this competition, and this

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Speaker 3: quarterback competition emerged. And so what I think we're going

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Speaker 3: to see is while a lot of people are off

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Speaker 3: ten and perhaps there's nothing for them to gain in

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Speaker 3: Thelik neighbors and Marvin Harrison, and obviously Caleb Williams and

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Speaker 3: Jade and Daniels. I don't know if we've heard from

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Speaker 3: thrown around. He may be, he may be, but uh

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Speaker 3: and I retweet. I retweeted Dane Brugler, who does it

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Speaker 3: for the athletic. He said, JJ McCarthy's got the spotlight,

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Speaker 3: like it's all him. We've heard he's gonna ace the interviews,

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Speaker 3: and he now has an opportunity to go out there

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Speaker 3: and put on a show and perhaps improve his draft

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Speaker 3: status of where he thought he might go. And I

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Speaker 3: bring it up because I think that is best case

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Speaker 3: scenario for the Chargers, is there are four quarterbacks, not three,

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Speaker 3: Because I just don't it's hard for me to envision.

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Speaker 3: I've said this repeatedly on the pot.

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Speaker 1: I just don't.

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Speaker 3: Envision a scenario where it's not one, two three, where

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Speaker 3: it's not Drake May, Jade and Daniels after Caleb Williams

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Speaker 3: that makes too much sense. It's just it lines up

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Speaker 3: and now you've got to figure out, you know. And

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Speaker 3: what Dane had had tweeted out was he feels like

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Speaker 3: there is enough buzz that it's beyond just trying to

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Speaker 3: create something that one of these teams in the top thirteen,

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Speaker 3: at you know, Vikings, Broncos, Raiders in that order, one

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Speaker 3: of those teams is gonna want JJ McCarthy and they're

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Speaker 3: that's that's what we're looking for.

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Speaker 1: So if we're looking at obviously we know the Broncos

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Speaker 1: and Raiders looking for a quarterback, but the teams that

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Speaker 1: I think that we would prefer to trade with are

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Speaker 1: teams like the Falcons at number eight overall, even the

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Speaker 1: Giants at six, to move up a spot to ensure

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Speaker 1: that you get the quarterback that you want because Daniel

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Speaker 1: Jones may not be the guy beyond twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 1: you can kind of build in a crew from there.

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Speaker 1: But I'm just looking at, you know, seeing Raheem Morris

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Speaker 1: could tell that they feel like they're a quarterback away

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Speaker 1: and maybe that is a JJ McCarthy or mich or

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Speaker 1: maybe it's a Kirk Cousins, or maybe it's a that's

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Speaker 1: a thing. It's a question of, you know, free agency

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Speaker 1: I was talking with with Popper a little earlier, you know,

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Speaker 1: we were breaking out the old Jimmy Johnson trade chart

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Speaker 1: and trying to figure it out, and he was saying, Oh,

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Speaker 1: I'd rather have a next year's number one from the

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Speaker 1: Falcons instead of this year's number two. And to my point,

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Speaker 1: I said, if that's you know what we're talking about,

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Speaker 1: what I would then prefer to go down to eleven

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Speaker 1: And that's where I start to question, you know, how

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Speaker 1: much can you really get for JJ McCarthy. I don't

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Speaker 1: I don't know if a team would be comfortable giving

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Speaker 1: their number one next year. Now, if you're you know,

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Speaker 1: incoming they took for trading back up to get will

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Speaker 1: will Anderson because you know, Tamiko Ryans believed this is

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Speaker 1: going to change our culture, this is going to set

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Speaker 1: the tone. And he was right because the number one

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Speaker 1: think it's again it just takes one team, and it's

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Speaker 1: of getting that extra top one hundred pick, maybe even

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Speaker 3: I just Dunsa is going to put on a show

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Speaker 3: like I've I've talked to enough people there. He is

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Speaker 3: going to put on a show. He's going to probably

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Speaker 3: at six foot two, two hundred and fifteen pounds, and

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Speaker 3: he's gonna he is going to light the freaking drills

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Speaker 1: So that's the thing. Okay, So if that's the case,

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Speaker 1: you get four quarterbacks gone and you have all three

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Speaker 3: Well three, I think, I think you're guaranteed three, and

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Speaker 3: I just I feel like, yeah, I feel like a Douneesay, Neighbors,

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Speaker 3: I think that's what you're gonna see as quarterback, quarterback, quarterback,

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Speaker 3: wide receiver, wide receiver, wide receiver, unless somehow McCarthy works

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Speaker 3: you could trade back to eight and perhaps get yourself

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Speaker 3: it'd be very hard for them to pass on a

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Speaker 3: get them on track on their offensive line. That's just

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Speaker 3: that's a really deep wide receiver class, and I just

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Speaker 3: think there's more value to me just knowing what the

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Speaker 3: I think we talked about this last week, Chris. Where

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Speaker 3: two and I'm now getting into the five. You've got

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Speaker 3: to think about what the gap is. But on your

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Speaker 3: To me, those are the three big positions for this

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Speaker 3: if we don't, if we don't, you know, draft roma

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Speaker 3: doun say at number five, how do we feel about

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Speaker 3: that's what you got to start asking yourself versus how

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Speaker 3: do we feel about this tackle versus one of Fuaga, Fashanu,

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Speaker 1: Something like that. So it seems like I don't know

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Speaker 1: if there is a consensus at tackle. Maybe it's all

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Speaker 1: most people, it would be all at number one in

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Speaker 1: terms of tackle. But when you get to eight or

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Speaker 1: ideally eleven, you're in Brock Bauers territory too. There you are, like, so,

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Speaker 1: so maybe you can get a guy like Brock Bowers.

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Speaker 1: But before you even try to put that puzzle together,

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Speaker 1: Joe's got some cap issues to deal with, starting with

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Speaker 3: Hell that they've got to restructure thirty million bucks means

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Speaker 3: That's where bad things happen. So it'll be interesting. Getting

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Speaker 1: Because of the wide receiver depth. Though it also leads

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Speaker 1: the question of, hey, do you just kind of reset

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Speaker 1: I just think it's an interesting conversation and nothing can

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Speaker 3: I think that And there's also a name that's as interesting,

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Speaker 3: You know that no one's talking about. He's coming up

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Speaker 3: is Josh Palmer that perfect comp pit guy where you

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Speaker 1: That probably makes more sense because these guys haven't had

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Speaker 1: they haven't got their hands on Josh yet, they've seen

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Speaker 3: So that's that's the question. Though, Is that more of

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Speaker 3: years thirty eight million bucks? How's that sound to you?

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Speaker 3: You know, three years thirty five million bucks. You know,

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Speaker 3: let's get a little bit of money in your pocket.

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Speaker 3: You're not going to break the bank with a thirty

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Speaker 1: Similar to what Tom did with Austin, right, he kind

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Speaker 3: Bump twenty eight million bucks over four years. It's not

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Speaker 1: Then he outplayed it, and then that's what happened. But

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Speaker 1: that's what happened exactly. Hey, we have a great interview

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Speaker 1: with Sam monson PFF coming up in tons of interviews

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Speaker 1: money as promised. Sam Monson PFF joins us here live

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Speaker 1: from Indianapolis and Sam, we've talked about the Chargers at nauseum,

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Speaker 1: obviously with Joe Hortiz speaking at the podium. Your thoughts

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I think they're gonna be one of

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Speaker 4: draft capital. You know, they're picking up at the top,

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Speaker 4: go one, two, three, So they're gonna have this prime

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Speaker 4: top blue chip players in the draft, probably, you know,

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Speaker 3: We heard in his intro presser. You know, compicks was

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Speaker 3: all these years. Sam, So some have described it as

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it always depends a little bit exactly

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 4: I think generally speaking, they're going to be in a

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Speaker 4: any other year, I think Melik Neighbors or Roma Dunze

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Speaker 4: say you don't move off that if somebody's willing to

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Speaker 4: And I think that's still a deal you should take

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Speaker 1: Sam when you look at five, let's say they move

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Speaker 1: that guy. But because Justin's your quarterback, because you can

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Speaker 4: There's the let's evaluate them all as prospects, let's put

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Speaker 6: And then there's let's remember Pooka and Akua.

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Speaker 3: listening to Greg Roman and listen to Jim Harbaugh, even

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Speaker 3: Joel Hortiz, that to me, that is being signaled that like,

433
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Speaker 3: that's sort of what they would like to do. So

434
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Speaker 3: in all of your evaluations at PFF, SAM, how deep

435
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Speaker 3: is this tackle class? If you can think back historically,

436
00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:18,040
Speaker 3: how often do you see top tackles drafted outside of

437
00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:18,600
Speaker 3: the first dround?

438
00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:20,800
Speaker 1: Right? For me, I feel like we just don't see that.

439
00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:23,320
Speaker 4: So I think this is a deeper tackle class than

440
00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:26,800
Speaker 4: it usually is. Since PFF has been great in college football,

441
00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:29,480
Speaker 4: so that goes back to twenty fourteen, I feel like

442
00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:32,880
Speaker 4: it's been a very barren stretch of offensive tackles coming

443
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Speaker 4: into the NFL generally, and multiple times we've kind of

444
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Speaker 4: looked at the landscape pre draft and we're like, there

445
00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:41,480
Speaker 4: aren't good tackles in this draft, Like where are all

446
00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:43,760
Speaker 4: these guys. This is a better year than that, and

447
00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:46,720
Speaker 4: it's deeper than that as well. So it's a reasonably

448
00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:50,080
Speaker 4: good offensive tackle draft class. But no position is like

449
00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:52,400
Speaker 4: wide receiver at the moment, where there's just so many

450
00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:55,159
Speaker 4: of these guys so deep. Like we're going through, you know,

451
00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:57,720
Speaker 4: doing our draft study and you're like twenty guys deep

452
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Speaker 4: and you're finding receivers you still like, you know, and

453
00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:04,040
Speaker 4: then yeah, and even then you're getting beyond that, there's

454
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Speaker 4: people like, wow, you got to watch this guy, Like

455
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Speaker 4: I haven't even looked at him yet. I mean, Puka

456
00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:10,840
Speaker 4: and Akul last year was somebody that the PFF data

457
00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:15,640
Speaker 4: had identified that that the tape was good obviously, and

458
00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:18,160
Speaker 4: you know, we we didn't really get deep enough into

459
00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:20,280
Speaker 4: his tape to sort of fully appreciate what he was.

460
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Speaker 4: But it's not like he wasn't a guy that like

461
00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:24,280
Speaker 4: there was no evidence that said he was gonna be

462
00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:26,199
Speaker 4: good the next Lecal it was all there we just

463
00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:28,879
Speaker 4: didn't get that deep. Like that's what the wide receiver

464
00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:33,159
Speaker 4: draft class is looking like these days. So and I

465
00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:35,159
Speaker 4: love what the Green Bay Packers tend to do as

466
00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:38,560
Speaker 4: an organization in terms of, Okay, we need a wide receiver.

467
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Speaker 4: We're not gonna take one, We're gonna take two or three,

468
00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:43,440
Speaker 4: and then maybe it's not the guy that we thought

469
00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:45,679
Speaker 4: was the best one ends up being the guy like

470
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Speaker 4: Dontavian Wicks was their best rookie wide receiver. So I

471
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Speaker 4: love that as a strategy as well. Maybe we don't

472
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Speaker 4: take a receiver at five, maybe we trade down, but

473
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Speaker 4: then we're gonna draft two or three of them and

474
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Speaker 4: one of the guys is gonna end up being the

475
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Speaker 4: player that we needed to be.

476
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Speaker 1: Just stick with wide receiver. The Chargers have decisions to

477
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Speaker 1: make on Mike Williams and Keenan Allen, and you know

478
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Speaker 1: we're a you're removed from drifting Quinton Johnston in the

479
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Speaker 1: first round. What was the grade that you guys had

480
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Speaker 1: on Quinton, Because forgive me, I don't have it up,

481
00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:15,360
Speaker 1: but just drops were obviously the problem with Quinton this year.

482
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Speaker 1: Can you see him rebounding in a new offense under

483
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Speaker 1: Jim Harble.

484
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Speaker 4: I think there's a skill set there that can work.

485
00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:24,040
Speaker 4: I think he's clearly a limited wide receiver. He's not,

486
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Speaker 4: you know, a complete total package, a true number one guy,

487
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Speaker 4: but he does have things that he does really well.

488
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Speaker 6: He's big, he's strong, he's fast.

489
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Speaker 4: The weirdly, the best thing that he does is catch

490
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Speaker 4: a hitch, immediately turn up field and use like direct

491
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Speaker 4: line acceleration speed and that kind of thing. I was

492
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Speaker 4: a lot lower than him on him than most people.

493
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Speaker 4: Given last year's draft class, it was really deep, but

494
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Speaker 4: it did it wasn't as top heavy as this year's group,

495
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Speaker 4: So I still think he belonged, you know, in the

496
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Speaker 4: top four or five guys.

497
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Speaker 6: I think I still had him number three.

498
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Speaker 4: I'm perpetually kicking myself that I didn't have the guts

499
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Speaker 4: to put Tank Dell above him in my rankings. I

500
00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:05,160
Speaker 4: had Johnson three, Tank Dell four, and I couldn't bring

501
00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:07,280
Speaker 4: myself to put a five foot eight, one hundred and

502
00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:09,560
Speaker 4: sixty pound guy ahead of Quinton Johnson. I was like, no,

503
00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:12,960
Speaker 4: he must be better than that. But I think we

504
00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:15,959
Speaker 4: saw last season. You know, there's not enough to his

505
00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:19,159
Speaker 4: game yet. But wide receiver is a position where a

506
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Speaker 4: very flawed type of player can still have a really

507
00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:24,520
Speaker 4: good role because you don't have to be a complete player.

508
00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:27,199
Speaker 4: You can do three things. And if all you can

509
00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:28,679
Speaker 4: do is three things, we can find a way of

510
00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:31,199
Speaker 4: making that work. Now, you can't have a whole receiving

511
00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:33,200
Speaker 4: core that can only do that, because that then the

512
00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:36,320
Speaker 4: jigsaw puzzle doesn't work. But if we have one guy

513
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Speaker 4: that is very limited, is very flawed, but can do

514
00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:41,760
Speaker 4: a couple of things really well, we can fit that in.

515
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Speaker 4: So I think there's still a role to be played

516
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Speaker 4: for Johnson, but you're gonna need to build the receiving

517
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Speaker 4: corps around him and then slot him into the puzzle.

518
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Speaker 1: Yeah.

519
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Speaker 3: The worst thing was that Mike Williams got hurt because

520
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Speaker 3: if there's one thing that Clinton wasn't it was Mike Williams. Yeah,

521
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Speaker 3: tracking the ball over his head, catching the ball that

522
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Speaker 3: that's just you know, deep balls in that particular situation,

523
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Speaker 3: just was that was his app weakness.

524
00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:02,399
Speaker 4: Yeah, and now you needed to push him into a

525
00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:03,960
Speaker 4: role that he just wasn't suited for.

526
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Speaker 3: Uh, you mentioned the nugs. You know, you guys, you

527
00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:09,439
Speaker 3: and Steve on the on the pod always come up

528
00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:12,920
Speaker 3: with with players that you identified that other people, you know,

529
00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:14,600
Speaker 3: may be lower on the one that I think of

530
00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:17,200
Speaker 3: that Steve just would pound and you know, good for him.

531
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Speaker 3: Was Christian Barmore, like he was just bar more part NonStop?

532
00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:23,400
Speaker 3: Who is it this year? Have you identified the sam

533
00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:26,160
Speaker 3: player that that you are much higher on than everyone else?

534
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Speaker 4: I think Jalen Polk might be that guy, the Washington

535
00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:33,440
Speaker 4: wide receiver. Everyone's focusing on a Dunza. Jalen Polk was

536
00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:35,239
Speaker 4: a guy that jumped off the tape as much as

537
00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:37,320
Speaker 4: a Dunze when you were watching Washington tape.

538
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Speaker 6: I think when I went through and did the.

539
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Speaker 4: Sort of whole wide receiver group, I was a little

540
00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:42,719
Speaker 4: bit less high on him than I thought I was

541
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Speaker 4: going in just because of the sort of highlights that

542
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Speaker 4: I caught. But he's a really good player, I think.

543
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Speaker 4: And he's good at the right things, Like he separates well,

544
00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:52,160
Speaker 4: he gets open, he understands how to how to beat

545
00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:55,000
Speaker 4: man En zone coverage. And he's sort of bigger. He's

546
00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:56,879
Speaker 4: bigger and stronger than people think he is. Like he

547
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Speaker 4: gets kind of pegged as a smaller slot guy that's

548
00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:04,200
Speaker 4: not madonze. He's like six two to ten, Like he's prototypical. Yeah,

549
00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:07,040
Speaker 4: it's like prototypical wide receiver size. So I think he's

550
00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:08,840
Speaker 4: gonna be a guy that I'm higher on the most people.

551
00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:13,040
Speaker 1: Eighteen Michigan guys are here. Yeah, eighteen Michigan guys are good.

552
00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:15,320
Speaker 1: In fact that Jim Harball is the head coach. If

553
00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:18,199
Speaker 1: you had to identify maybe like two or three that

554
00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:21,359
Speaker 1: would fit really well based on Jesse Minner being the

555
00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:24,199
Speaker 1: DC and some of the needs that the Chargers have.

556
00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:27,119
Speaker 1: Who would those guys be even early mid rounds whatever?

557
00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:27,479
Speaker 1: I mean.

558
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Speaker 4: I think the most obvious one is actually sticking with

559
00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:32,880
Speaker 4: wide receivers. It's Roman Wilson and he people are talking

560
00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:35,480
Speaker 4: about him gonna run extremely quickly at the combine as well.

561
00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:38,800
Speaker 4: He had an amazing senior ball during the practices as well,

562
00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:41,000
Speaker 4: and his tape is good, Like you look at the tape,

563
00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:43,840
Speaker 4: you're not again like Pukinakua. It's not hidden, like this

564
00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:47,000
Speaker 4: guy has had a really good college career and it

565
00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:49,200
Speaker 4: fits in need and it means that maybe you don't

566
00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:51,879
Speaker 4: either don't use number five on one of those receivers,

567
00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:53,760
Speaker 4: or you come back again in the mid rounds and

568
00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:56,600
Speaker 4: grab a guy like Roman Wilson and unlet's double up

569
00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:58,440
Speaker 4: and add two playmakers instead of one.

570
00:25:58,680 --> 00:25:59,520
Speaker 1: What about defense?

571
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:03,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean defense. I think that group is insanely good.

572
00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:06,320
Speaker 4: Obviously we saw it a year ago. I'm you know,

573
00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:08,280
Speaker 4: the Chargers have got some holes, so I think they

574
00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:10,800
Speaker 4: could definitely dip into the Michigan well and grab a

575
00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:11,520
Speaker 4: couple of those guys.

576
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Speaker 3: It's not a sexy, but you know it's not. Maybe

577
00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:15,520
Speaker 3: it will be a forty, but Chris Jenkins is gonna

578
00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:17,360
Speaker 3: put on a show. Yeah, he is going to put

579
00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:20,000
Speaker 3: on a show at the Combine. And I wouldn't be

580
00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:22,080
Speaker 3: surprised at all if he's snuck into the first round

581
00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:24,240
Speaker 3: when it's I mean, I know the measurables aren't quite there,

582
00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:26,159
Speaker 3: he's not quite as tall, but my god, he's just

583
00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:27,440
Speaker 3: gonna explode on that field.

584
00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:29,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, and he's just a great example of a guy

585
00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:32,359
Speaker 4: where I don't think the measurables mean that much. You know,

586
00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:35,399
Speaker 4: his tape is amazing. He's just a good football player.

587
00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:37,000
Speaker 4: We know what his dad was able to do in

588
00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:38,400
Speaker 4: the NFL. He's gonna be good.

589
00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:40,680
Speaker 3: I want to go back to the tackles because I

590
00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:42,680
Speaker 3: just I don't know, I have this feeling that that's

591
00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:45,119
Speaker 3: and I don't know if it's interior, if it's a

592
00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:47,280
Speaker 3: center in the second round, if they add a second

593
00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:49,400
Speaker 3: second rounder and use those two to trade back into

594
00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:52,280
Speaker 3: the first round of Powers Johnson is available, but just

595
00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:56,600
Speaker 3: kind of where you have where you and everyone at PFF,

596
00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:57,800
Speaker 3: if you want to, you know, I guess speak for

597
00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:01,320
Speaker 3: them as well, have kind of the tackles stacked, knowing

598
00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:03,480
Speaker 3: that they've got it. And I believe that that Rashaun

599
00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:06,320
Speaker 3: Slater can can be the best offensive lineman in football

600
00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:08,200
Speaker 3: at some point in his career. So if he's stacked,

601
00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:10,720
Speaker 3: if he's locked in at left, if you're drafting the

602
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:13,840
Speaker 3: right tackle, or let's just say you trade back far

603
00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:17,679
Speaker 3: enough where Powers Johnson becomes a serious conversation. What do

604
00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:20,119
Speaker 3: you see on that right side? Are you comfortable in

605
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:21,760
Speaker 3: what you've seen from all to flip him to the

606
00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:25,160
Speaker 3: right side? Is it fuaga because he's your natural sort

607
00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:26,800
Speaker 3: of road greater right? Like, what would you do at

608
00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:30,040
Speaker 3: right tackle? Or would you take that center knowing that

609
00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:32,040
Speaker 3: Corey Linsley's probably going to retire right?

610
00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:34,920
Speaker 4: I mean Powers Johnson really the only read the only

611
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:37,640
Speaker 4: red flag negative about him is injuries, you know, which

612
00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:39,879
Speaker 4: is a question mark his tape is insane, his production

613
00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:42,199
Speaker 4: is nuts. He's going to be an amazing player as

614
00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:44,720
Speaker 4: long as he's healthy, but that is a factor. You know,

615
00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:46,840
Speaker 4: he got injured at the Senior Bowl. He's he's an

616
00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:50,600
Speaker 4: injury question mark at this point. The right tackles are interesting,

617
00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:53,919
Speaker 4: Like I think, generally, if you're taking a player in

618
00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:56,679
Speaker 4: the draft, you can probably assume that you can move

619
00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:59,040
Speaker 4: him to right tackle day one with no issue. Right

620
00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:02,600
Speaker 4: as a general fault starting position. Now, not everybody is

621
00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:04,040
Speaker 4: going to be able to make that switch. There are

622
00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:06,200
Speaker 4: going to be guys where it just doesn't work for

623
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:09,239
Speaker 4: some reason. You know, they're incredibly one sided and it

624
00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:12,800
Speaker 4: just doesn't function swipt swapping them over. But generally speaking,

625
00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:14,320
Speaker 4: I think it does and as long as you do

626
00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:17,120
Speaker 4: it day one, it's not a problem. The problems start

627
00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:19,280
Speaker 4: to occur. I think when you take a guy that's

628
00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:22,119
Speaker 4: played one side, you know, in the NFL for a

629
00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:24,560
Speaker 4: long period of time, and then you start messing around

630
00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:26,920
Speaker 4: asking him to flip sides, that I think can become

631
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:27,440
Speaker 4: a problem.

632
00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:28,760
Speaker 6: But you know, I don't.

633
00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:31,560
Speaker 4: I think now the two positions are the same. It's

634
00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:34,919
Speaker 4: not that you know, in traditional senses, you would if

635
00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:36,600
Speaker 4: you go back a few years. You would look at

636
00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:40,240
Speaker 4: Olo Fashionu from Penn State and Fuaga from Oregon State,

637
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:44,520
Speaker 4: and you're like prototypical left tackle, prototypical right tackle. You know, footwork,

638
00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:47,280
Speaker 4: pass protection, little bit of a weakness maybe as a

639
00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:49,120
Speaker 4: run blocker. And then on the other side you got

640
00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:51,960
Speaker 4: road grading monsters as a run blocker, and if he

641
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:53,520
Speaker 4: has a weakness, it's going to be in the past

642
00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:55,800
Speaker 4: pro side. I don't think that exists anymore. They just

643
00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:58,600
Speaker 4: happen to fall into the stereotypes that they'll work. That

644
00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:00,920
Speaker 4: being said, if you've got two guys that are equal,

645
00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:03,280
Speaker 4: take the guy that's already playing in that position. Because

646
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:06,200
Speaker 4: you don't have that variable, you're not adding an extra

647
00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:08,880
Speaker 4: question mark to it. So you know, I think all

648
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Speaker 4: three of those guys are elite level tackle prospects. Fashion

649
00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:17,240
Speaker 4: News pass protection, his footwork is insane. I think Joe

650
00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:19,680
Speaker 4: Altrom Notre Dame is like the best composite where he's

651
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:22,680
Speaker 4: just good at everything. He's a massive body, like six ' eight,

652
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:27,400
Speaker 4: he's just huge, great technician, strong, and then Fuaga is

653
00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:31,000
Speaker 4: this guy who he's got the offensive line equivalent of

654
00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:33,680
Speaker 4: that the touch of death that MMA guys talk about

655
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:36,480
Speaker 4: right where he hits you, You're dumber, right, he gets

656
00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:38,440
Speaker 4: his hands on you in the run game, forget it,

657
00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:41,520
Speaker 4: you're out of the play game over. And he's good

658
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Speaker 4: enough as a pass blocker. He's not this like liability

659
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Speaker 4: at that side. So I think any of those guys

660
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Speaker 4: are honestly in play. Maybe not quite at five. I

661
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Speaker 4: maybe I'm just being falling into that stereotype trap. But

662
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Speaker 4: for I go at five feels a little rich. The

663
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Speaker 4: other two guys I think are definitely live options.

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Speaker 1: There sam the two hot names among Arder fans. We

665
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Speaker 1: read about it every week. It's brock Bauers and it's

666
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Speaker 1: Molak Neighbors. Kay give me your thirty second elevator pitch

667
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Speaker 1: on each guy.

668
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Speaker 6: I mean, elite Neighbors is incredibly good.

669
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Speaker 4: He's a technician, he's got prototypical size speed, play after

670
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Speaker 4: the catchability. The only thing that scares me at all

671
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Speaker 4: about Neighbors is he doesn't use his hands at the

672
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Speaker 4: line of scrimmage to defeat press. He like shrugs his

673
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Speaker 4: shoulders and tries to get a round press. You can't

674
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Speaker 4: do that in the NFL. Like, that's gonna have to

675
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Speaker 4: be fixed, But it's a fix that can be made.

676
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Speaker 6: It's not a difficult thing.

677
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Speaker 4: So that's the only thing I think that's any in

678
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Speaker 4: any way, shape or form a negative or a concern

679
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Speaker 4: for him. Brock Bauers incredible playmaker. He's undersized for the

680
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Speaker 4: tight end position. I think he'll end up weighing about

681
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Speaker 4: what he's listed at, which is like two forty five

682
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Speaker 4: something like that. I don't know if he actually is

683
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Speaker 4: that size. I mean, we were at the Super Bowl.

684
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Speaker 4: Who's a picture of him standing next to Gronk. Yeah,

685
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Speaker 4: we talk to those are not those human beings are

686
00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:58,600
Speaker 4: not the same size, right, very big difference. But he's

687
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Speaker 4: more of a move tight end. He's more of a

688
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:03,680
Speaker 4: receiving type player. I think the biggest thing working against

689
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Speaker 4: him is the Kyle Pitts thing hasn't worked out yet. Yeahright,

690
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Speaker 4: And the last time we took a tight end this high,

691
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Speaker 4: it hasn't quite all come together. He's got that kind

692
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Speaker 4: of ability though. He's an amazing route runner. He's great

693
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Speaker 4: after the catch, he's great just generally receiving.

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Speaker 6: He should be a top ten pick, maybe top five.

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Speaker 4: Teams are scared away from that because of the size

696
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Speaker 4: and the fact the last guy we took that high hasn't.

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Speaker 3: Been a superstar. Last thing, Sam will let you go.

698
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Speaker 3: We appreciate it. Running back I know is fallen out

699
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Speaker 3: of favor. It's not a sex So you had a

700
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:38,680
Speaker 3: nice run last year with Timir Gibson and be Sewn Robinson.

701
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Speaker 3: Does not seem like we have that this year. I

702
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Speaker 3: don't know how much work you guys have done already.

703
00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:44,280
Speaker 3: I know the drafts little ways away on running back,

704
00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:47,240
Speaker 3: but Eckler's a free agent, Joshua Kelly's a free agent.

705
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Speaker 3: Isaiah Spiller has found himself inactive on game days. Thoughts

706
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Speaker 3: about the backs in this draft and maybe where if

707
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Speaker 3: you need a Bellkow and that's the route you're gonna

708
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Speaker 3: go where you should start thinking about drafting when and

709
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Speaker 3: if that person exists.

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Speaker 4: It's funny, this is like the perfect analytics draft for

711
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:06,000
Speaker 4: running backs, right because there is no first round draft pick.

712
00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:08,120
Speaker 4: There's no Bjehon Robinson in this draft. But there's a

713
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Speaker 4: ton of guys that in the mid rounds I think

714
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Speaker 4: are gonna be good NFL players. And it's you know,

715
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Speaker 4: it's where analytics says that's where you start looking for

716
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:17,000
Speaker 4: running backs anyway, So I think in a way it's

717
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Speaker 4: a perfect draft for that kind of thing. There's no consensus.

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Speaker 4: I don't think in terms of who the number one,

719
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Speaker 4: number two guy is. I think Blake Korum from Michigan

720
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Speaker 4: is a a perfect like he's my number one back

721
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Speaker 4: in this draft. I think he's the best guy. Last

722
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:32,760
Speaker 4: year wasn't as good coming off that knee injury. But

723
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Speaker 4: you go back and watch the twenty twenty two tape.

724
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Speaker 4: I have a play that I tweeted the last couple

725
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Speaker 4: of days. It's just ridiculous, Like there's a freeze frame

726
00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:42,000
Speaker 4: where there's four or five guys around him and he

727
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:44,960
Speaker 4: just makes a cut, goes underneath them all and scores,

728
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:47,440
Speaker 4: like hases it from fifty yards away. There's a lot

729
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:50,120
Speaker 4: of Austin Eckler in his tape, so you know, if

730
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Speaker 4: you're trying to replace that guy with the Michigan connection,

731
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:56,600
Speaker 4: he's an amazingly explosive player. Maybe he doesn't have the

732
00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:58,440
Speaker 4: top end speed. You know, he hits the rev limitar

733
00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:01,000
Speaker 4: pretty quickly once he gets away from people. But it's

734
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Speaker 4: kind of like the Barry Sanders thing right, Like you

735
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:05,680
Speaker 4: might catch him from behind eighty yards into the play,

736
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Speaker 4: but at that point he's eighty yards downfield.

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Speaker 6: And who cares.

738
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Speaker 4: Blake Korms I think similar like, you might get him,

739
00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:12,880
Speaker 4: but he'll be fifty yards away from the line of

740
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:16,320
Speaker 4: scrimmage at the time he did, so he's great. Jonathan

741
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Speaker 4: Brooks from Texas is a lot of people's number one,

742
00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:19,800
Speaker 4: but he's coming off a knee injury, and if you

743
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Speaker 4: need him to play day one and be the starter,

744
00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:23,680
Speaker 4: maybe that's not the right you want to go. But

745
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Speaker 4: I also think there's a ton of guys lower down

746
00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:29,880
Speaker 4: that are amazing sleepers. Will Shipley from Clemson. I think

747
00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:32,920
Speaker 4: it was an amazing player, has great vision, incredibly shifty.

748
00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:35,560
Speaker 4: Reminded me a little bit of Christian McCaffrey in terms

749
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:37,239
Speaker 4: of there's so many plays where it looks like he's

750
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Speaker 4: about to take a massive shot and then somehow just

751
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:42,719
Speaker 4: takes a slight step, slight roll and just gets beyond

752
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:45,520
Speaker 4: it and keeps going. He could be a great sort

753
00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:47,520
Speaker 4: of mid round sleeper that ends up being like a

754
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Speaker 4: bell Cat type of player quite early.

755
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Speaker 3: All right, I know I said last thing, but I

756
00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:53,600
Speaker 3: gotta get what I believe is you might be able

757
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Speaker 3: to deem this racist because.

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Speaker 6: Great perfect starts. Yeah, you.

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Speaker 3: Interview has been great, so far Budy, Let's just stop

760
00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:05,320
Speaker 3: it now. Did you watch Six Nations on Netflix? Did

761
00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:06,560
Speaker 3: you watch the documentary?

762
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:06,840
Speaker 6: Huh?

763
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Speaker 1: Do you?

764
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Speaker 6: How?

765
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:07,760
Speaker 1: Like?

766
00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:11,600
Speaker 3: Where do you come out on people asking you about

767
00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:15,440
Speaker 3: Ireland rugby and expecting you to be an expert in that?

768
00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:15,880
Speaker 1: Are you?

769
00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:16,359
Speaker 6: Do?

770
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:18,880
Speaker 1: You love Ireland rugby? You love Six Nations? What did

771
00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:19,120
Speaker 1: you make?

772
00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:19,360
Speaker 5: I mean?

773
00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:21,480
Speaker 4: Look, expert is a word that gets people into trouble.

774
00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:23,000
Speaker 4: I know what I'm talking about when it comes to

775
00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:26,800
Speaker 4: Irish rugby. Yeah, I'm fine. I thought that documentary wasn't great.

776
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:29,279
Speaker 4: It was I figured they didn't They didn't get a

777
00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:32,560
Speaker 4: ton of access and they didn't really do anything new,

778
00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:34,719
Speaker 4: and it's from a tournament that happened a year ago,

779
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:36,520
Speaker 4: so it's like, yeah, what am I getting out of this?

780
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:40,160
Speaker 4: They also so a lot of the personalities you know

781
00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:42,440
Speaker 4: that they zoomed in on as the sort of focal point.

782
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:46,960
Speaker 4: We're boring as hell people, So that didn't help. That

783
00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:49,080
Speaker 4: being said, the Six Nations is going on right now.

784
00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:52,759
Speaker 4: Ireland are three for three, We're going to win it again, hopefully,

785
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:55,480
Speaker 4: We're ideally going to get a back to back Grand Slam,

786
00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:58,360
Speaker 4: and therefore all is right with the world, and we

787
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Speaker 4: just don't mention the World Cup that happened between those things.

788
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:03,239
Speaker 3: How big of a like, if you could put it

789
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:06,920
Speaker 3: in NFL terms, how big of a star was I

790
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:08,799
Speaker 3: forgot his same the guy that just three salmon? Yeah,

791
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:11,160
Speaker 3: how big of a star was he in that particular

792
00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:12,120
Speaker 3: sport in Ireland?

793
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:18,279
Speaker 4: So he's he was arguably the best Welsh player in

794
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:22,200
Speaker 4: their nation. He's one of the biggest youngest stars in

795
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:25,839
Speaker 4: the kind of northern Hemisphere rugby. He's, you know, as

796
00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:27,400
Speaker 4: big as it gets in terms of a young up

797
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:30,560
Speaker 4: and coming superstar, like on the scene in NFL terms,

798
00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:33,360
Speaker 4: we're talking b John Robinson, We're talking like a legit

799
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:37,600
Speaker 4: superstar on what he's doing is unprecedented. Guys have tried

800
00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:40,919
Speaker 4: to make that switch before. Nobody at his level, at

801
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:42,640
Speaker 4: his age has tried to get the difference.

802
00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:45,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's not coming over at thirty, right, he's twenty

803
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:48,520
Speaker 3: three rugby to try to play he's twenty three.

804
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:51,719
Speaker 4: I mean he was playing for Gloucester in England. He

805
00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:54,000
Speaker 4: could have walked to France where all the money is,

806
00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:56,239
Speaker 4: or Japan where all the money is, and had like

807
00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:58,759
Speaker 4: he could have been one of the top five best

808
00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:00,799
Speaker 4: paid players in the world. That he's taking a run

809
00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:03,040
Speaker 4: at this knowing that even if it doesn't go well,

810
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:05,560
Speaker 4: he can come back at twenty five and still have

811
00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:06,560
Speaker 4: that deal waiting for him.

812
00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:09,719
Speaker 1: Right, Sam, before you go pub the PFF tools, because

813
00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:12,399
Speaker 1: we've been doing mock draft simulators and all the fun

814
00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:13,799
Speaker 1: stuff on PFF tel the fans.

815
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:16,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, mock draft simulator. You can go there, play at

816
00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:19,319
Speaker 4: GM to your heart's content. I think thirty MDS is

817
00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:21,359
Speaker 4: the promo code for thirty percent off that as well,

818
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:23,320
Speaker 4: so you can get in on the on the cheap

819
00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:26,840
Speaker 4: and spend your entire offseason fixing your team with the

820
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:28,040
Speaker 4: mock drafts in that real.

821
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Speaker 1: Quick February twenty seventh, the Chargers pick who number five.

822
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:34,120
Speaker 4: I think they end up with neighbors. I think that's

823
00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:37,120
Speaker 4: the most likely one. Neighbors or trade down at MARMA two.

824
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:40,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, there we go, and we're gonna start it three

825
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:44,600
Speaker 3: rounds by draft. Ready, go, there we go. Let's see

826
00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:47,120
Speaker 3: we are on the clock. We've got neighbors alt A

827
00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:51,200
Speaker 3: dooneza fu waga. Well let's just leave it between alt

828
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:52,600
Speaker 3: neighbors and A dudes.

829
00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:54,480
Speaker 6: He just neis, Yeah, we gotta go neighbors.

830
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:56,600
Speaker 1: Want to go? Neighbors all right, So we're drafted neighbors

831
00:36:56,719 --> 00:36:59,399
Speaker 1: and here we go. Charger fans be happy with that. Yeah,

832
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:00,000
Speaker 1: they're gonna love you.

833
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:07,279
Speaker 3: Second round we are looking at let's see boy, go

834
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:10,840
Speaker 3: Chop Robinson edge opposite to Lee being interesting. We have

835
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:14,000
Speaker 3: a uh, you can get your tackle here in the

836
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:15,719
Speaker 3: the Bruce Feldman freak list.

837
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:18,000
Speaker 6: I would go one of those edge rushers, John Robinson

838
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:18,560
Speaker 6: or Darius I.

839
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:21,799
Speaker 1: Like, CHOP's a big ten guy. Jim's Jim's face Chop

840
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:22,279
Speaker 1: all right?

841
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:24,799
Speaker 4: Or hang on, wait wait, wait, wait wait what how

842
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:28,600
Speaker 4: can we possibly how can we possibly leave JJ McCarthy.

843
00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:32,640
Speaker 6: Saying he's the number one player in the draft.

844
00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:35,319
Speaker 3: All right, we're drafting shop. Whoops, didn't mean to open

845
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:37,360
Speaker 3: up the profile, which is always great though, just to

846
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:39,560
Speaker 3: make sure we're drafting the right guys. So we draft

847
00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:41,440
Speaker 3: Chop and now we get to the third round. We

848
00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:47,399
Speaker 3: have need uh on the offensive line, we get Junior. Yeah,

849
00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:49,279
Speaker 3: run here, there we go. That's where our Michigan runs

850
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:54,200
Speaker 3: Starling and Dyone Henley and Junior moving forwards. P perfect, Yeah,

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00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:56,400
Speaker 3: it's we. We always tell people to check out the

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00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:58,520
Speaker 3: mock draft simulator. We do it every week on the pod.

853
00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:01,279
Speaker 3: Sam We appreciate it anytime. Thanks for having the best man. Thanks,

854
00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:05,239
Speaker 3: and now that Sam has got up and walked away,

855
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:06,960
Speaker 3: we can mention the real reason we had them on

856
00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:09,000
Speaker 3: because we want an invite to the open barred Saint

857
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:11,239
Speaker 3: Elmos and the PFF party tomorrow night. So you know

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00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:13,200
Speaker 3: a little bit of a trade off there. We put

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00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:15,400
Speaker 3: you on for twenty five minutes, we plug your product

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00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:18,520
Speaker 3: and then you reward us with free shrimp cocktail with

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00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:21,279
Speaker 3: extra spicy Horse Radish sauce and free beer.

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Speaker 1: I'll be there. That's how we make this thing work

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Speaker 1: all right for the show. Jordan Reed joins us here

864
00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:30,440
Speaker 1: on Chargers Weekly, and Jordan has been a minute man.

865
00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:33,800
Speaker 1: Congrats on all your success and I know that this

866
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:34,920
Speaker 1: is a big week for you know.

867
00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:37,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, absolutely, thank you guys for having me on. It

868
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:39,160
Speaker 5: is always a pleasure, and this is like the lead

869
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:41,920
Speaker 5: up to Christmas for me. I'm so excited to get

870
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:45,200
Speaker 5: the fellowship with everybody, figure out some information about all

871
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:48,120
Speaker 5: the prospects and then just realizing them reaching their dreams

872
00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:49,080
Speaker 5: is just this awesome.

873
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:51,240
Speaker 3: I guess the difference is you got to work on Christmas.

874
00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:54,600
Speaker 3: Your Christmas is a working day for you. How much

875
00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:59,960
Speaker 3: in your experience, how much changes like between combine pro day,

876
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:04,399
Speaker 3: what you're hearing through the interviews, how much movement realistically

877
00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:06,400
Speaker 3: do you think you see and are their position groups

878
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:07,479
Speaker 3: that tend to move more than others.

879
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:08,000
Speaker 6: Yeah.

880
00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:09,680
Speaker 5: I mean with the quarterbacks, you always want to see

881
00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:11,640
Speaker 5: if they're gonna throw or not. And that's more so

882
00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:14,400
Speaker 5: for our entertainment. You love to see them go out

883
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:16,600
Speaker 5: there and be competitive. But if they don't throw, it's

884
00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:19,160
Speaker 5: not really a huge deal to NFL teams, just because

885
00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:23,279
Speaker 5: they understand that the advantageous things that could happen with that.

886
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:26,120
Speaker 5: I mean, some guys that you're throwing to, you maybe

887
00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:27,800
Speaker 5: have met them for the first time when you're connecting

888
00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:30,600
Speaker 5: flight coming here. Yeah, so just understanding that there is

889
00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:33,480
Speaker 5: some advantages to it, but also some disadvantages for it

890
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:35,200
Speaker 5: as well. And then offensive lineman. I love seeing the

891
00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:37,960
Speaker 5: offensive lineman going out there and competing, especially in the

892
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:39,640
Speaker 5: drills and things of that nature. You get to see

893
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:42,040
Speaker 5: who your true leaders are, who's outspoken, who's more so

894
00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:44,600
Speaker 5: laid back, and the DB's as well. You get to

895
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:46,200
Speaker 5: see their hips and how fluid they are too.

896
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:49,400
Speaker 1: George, what's the lead in this draft in terms of

897
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:52,080
Speaker 1: the position grips. We know the quarterbacks, it looks like

898
00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:55,000
Speaker 1: maybe three going the top five. But outside of those

899
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:57,600
Speaker 1: three quarterbacks, you know, what are you looking at from

900
00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:01,000
Speaker 1: a position standpoint, just kind of being the lead of

901
00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:01,479
Speaker 1: this draft.

902
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:03,640
Speaker 2: Offensive tackle and then also a wide receiver.

903
00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:06,320
Speaker 5: Those are your two positions that are absolutely loaded in

904
00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:08,840
Speaker 5: We may not see a defensive guy go inside of

905
00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:10,799
Speaker 5: the top ten, which is something that we haven't seen

906
00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:13,320
Speaker 5: in a very long time. So this draft class is

907
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:15,640
Speaker 5: really led by the offensive tackles and then also the

908
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:18,799
Speaker 5: wide receivers in I know neighbors in Marvin Harrison Junior.

909
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:21,000
Speaker 5: They're not performing here, but you're gonna get to see

910
00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:23,040
Speaker 5: plenty of other guys, whether it's a Rome or Dunze,

911
00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:25,479
Speaker 5: and then some of the other guys. Adne Mitchell's another

912
00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:27,759
Speaker 5: from Texas that will get to see a lot as well.

913
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:29,759
Speaker 5: So both of those positions I think are going to

914
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:30,920
Speaker 5: be the headliner of this class.

915
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:34,359
Speaker 3: What do you think the likelihood is that either JJ

916
00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:37,399
Speaker 3: McCarthy or a fourth quarterback ends up working his way

917
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:40,440
Speaker 3: into let's say, well, how about number five where the

918
00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:42,759
Speaker 3: Chargers sitting, Because I think that's what Joe Ortiz would

919
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:44,160
Speaker 3: like to see that the team would be willing to

920
00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:45,560
Speaker 3: trade all the way up to five. Do you think

921
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:48,320
Speaker 3: that's a possibility, And if so, like what kind of

922
00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:50,440
Speaker 3: percentage of a possibility do you think that is.

923
00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:51,040
Speaker 2: I think so.

924
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:53,839
Speaker 5: I will put it at like thirty percent right now.

925
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:57,360
Speaker 5: But once again, there's always that fourth quarterback that just

926
00:40:57,480 --> 00:40:59,919
Speaker 5: makes the ascension of the draft board as we go along,

927
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:01,480
Speaker 5: and I think JJ is going to be that guy,

928
00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:04,840
Speaker 5: especially with him electing to throw him being young, just

929
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:08,200
Speaker 5: turning twenty one years old in January, and then what

930
00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:10,520
Speaker 5: I like to call the thrill of the unknown with him,

931
00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:13,279
Speaker 5: just because there's always those coaches that feel they have

932
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:16,480
Speaker 5: the secret ingredients to uncover that next layer of a

933
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:20,120
Speaker 5: quarterback's development. And JJ's really unproving as a passer. I mean,

934
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:22,320
Speaker 5: he played in twenty eight he had twenty eight career starts,

935
00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:24,440
Speaker 5: he only had twelve of where he had twenty five

936
00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:27,400
Speaker 5: or more passing attempts in those and he's one of

937
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:29,719
Speaker 5: the highest of moments that you can think of. But

938
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:31,480
Speaker 5: for the Chargers, I think that's going to work in

939
00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:34,520
Speaker 5: their favor, especially they have five teams right after them

940
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:37,200
Speaker 5: that have big holes at quarterback, whether it's the Giants,

941
00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:40,280
Speaker 5: at six, the Falcons at eight, and then that stretch

942
00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:43,719
Speaker 5: of eleven through thirteen with the Vikings, the Broncos and

943
00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:45,520
Speaker 5: then the Raiders of where they could trade up for

944
00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:47,480
Speaker 5: a quarterback. So the Chargers are sitting in a really

945
00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:48,839
Speaker 5: good spot if they want to trade back.

946
00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 1: There's a lot of needs on this team right now,

947
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:53,479
Speaker 1: especially when you're bringing a new GM or new head coach.

948
00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:55,520
Speaker 1: And you know, we talk about the offensive line, the

949
00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:59,480
Speaker 1: wide receiver. Defensively, though, you know, corner is a position

950
00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:02,279
Speaker 1: that they're gonna have to replenish. When you look at

951
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:05,320
Speaker 1: this corner class, what are your kind of twenty thousand

952
00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:08,480
Speaker 1: foot view thoughts and can he get a guy in

953
00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:11,000
Speaker 1: the early second that could be a Day one starter? Yeah,

954
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:11,400
Speaker 1: I think so.

955
00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:14,000
Speaker 5: Now there's not that Devin Witherspoon and some of the

956
00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:16,080
Speaker 5: other players that we saw in last year's draft class,

957
00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:18,719
Speaker 5: but I think the depth through the third round is

958
00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:21,920
Speaker 5: really good for this outside corner group. And you mean,

959
00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:24,080
Speaker 5: you're gonna hear names like Cam Hard of Notre Dame

960
00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:26,480
Speaker 5: that could go somewhere in that top seventy five. Kyrie

961
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:29,480
Speaker 5: Jackson from Oregon is another that could be a third round.

962
00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:31,399
Speaker 2: Pick as well. So the depth of the outside corner

963
00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:32,279
Speaker 2: class is really good.

964
00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:35,479
Speaker 3: What about rock powers like where it really does seem

965
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:37,399
Speaker 3: to be one of the great mysteries. It's not fair

966
00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:39,640
Speaker 3: to maybe point to Kyle Pitts as to why you

967
00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:42,359
Speaker 3: wouldn't take him, But just when you're grading him, when

968
00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:45,160
Speaker 3: you're reviewing him, just on his talent, you know, the

969
00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:47,400
Speaker 3: super Bowl picture that's making the rounds to him, nobody

970
00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:50,160
Speaker 3: looks good standing next to Rock, But like, what is

971
00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:52,600
Speaker 3: your evaluation of him? What if you're just doing your

972
00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:55,320
Speaker 3: vertical where where does he fit in high impact player?

973
00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:57,719
Speaker 5: And I think he's more so of a receiving tight

974
00:42:57,840 --> 00:42:59,840
Speaker 5: end as opposed to with inline blockers. So you have

975
00:42:59,920 --> 00:43:02,840
Speaker 5: to treat Brock like he's strictly a receiver. He's not

976
00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:04,799
Speaker 5: gonna give you a lot of value in line. He's

977
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:07,440
Speaker 5: not gonna be like George Kiddle or anybody like that

978
00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:09,759
Speaker 5: that's just destroying guys. As a run blocker, he's not

979
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:11,799
Speaker 5: gonna be what I call a plus one for your

980
00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:14,440
Speaker 5: run game right away. But if you're strictly evaluating him

981
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:16,840
Speaker 5: as a receiver, I definitely think he's worthy of a

982
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:17,480
Speaker 5: top ten pick.

983
00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:19,520
Speaker 2: Now top five. That's a little bit touchy.

984
00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:21,359
Speaker 5: Just because you want more so of a player that's

985
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:25,240
Speaker 5: gonna help you at a premium position. But with Bowers,

986
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:27,560
Speaker 5: he's definitely gonna help you right away. But with tight end,

987
00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:30,919
Speaker 5: we've seen so many of those highly drafted guys really

988
00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:32,920
Speaker 5: fail their first few years in the league. And I

989
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:35,600
Speaker 5: think with the Chargers they need that player that's gonna

990
00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:37,480
Speaker 5: help them right away, just because when I think of

991
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:40,040
Speaker 5: Jim Rball, I think of somebody that's gonna come in

992
00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:43,279
Speaker 5: and try to change the landscape and the culture of

993
00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:45,520
Speaker 5: that team right away. And I don't know if Bowers

994
00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:47,680
Speaker 5: is gonna do that right away at a premium position.

995
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:50,400
Speaker 3: So I'd love to follow up because this is I

996
00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:53,480
Speaker 3: think it's something that people kind of I feel like

997
00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:57,040
Speaker 3: our listeners struggle to kind of reconcile it when you

998
00:43:57,120 --> 00:43:59,040
Speaker 3: say he's a receiving tight end. I just I think

999
00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:01,839
Speaker 3: of the's of Sam Laporta last year. You can make

1000
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:03,920
Speaker 3: the case he was the most important pass catcher on

1001
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:09,160
Speaker 3: the Lions last year. How is it that that particular position.

1002
00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:11,480
Speaker 3: I'm trying to think the best way to put it.

1003
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:13,799
Speaker 3: You know, we think of Travis Kelcey as receiving tight end.

1004
00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:16,080
Speaker 3: How does that impact your football team. How is that

1005
00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:18,200
Speaker 3: like a better Let's just say you're sticking and picking

1006
00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:21,040
Speaker 3: at five him as a pass catcher versus Roma Dunes.

1007
00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:23,359
Speaker 3: Say it's a pass catcher Elik Neighbors as a pass catcher.

1008
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:26,000
Speaker 3: Where is that value because he's a tight end instead

1009
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:26,720
Speaker 3: of a wide receiver.

1010
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:29,480
Speaker 5: It comes down to the financial specifics the things then,

1011
00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:31,920
Speaker 5: just because when you're taking a tight end inside the

1012
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:35,200
Speaker 5: top ten, he's probably gonna be probably in like the

1013
00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:37,399
Speaker 5: top twelve range as far as where he's getting paid.

1014
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:39,840
Speaker 5: But now we're seeing wide receivers get over you know,

1015
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:42,239
Speaker 5: twenty five thirty million dollars a year. So I would

1016
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:45,279
Speaker 5: rather have that control cost wide receiver for four to

1017
00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:47,719
Speaker 5: five years as opposed to the tight end. Now, all

1018
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:49,719
Speaker 5: those guys are going to contribute right away, but we're

1019
00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:52,040
Speaker 5: talking about the financial specifics of everything, and we know

1020
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:54,600
Speaker 5: with the chargers they're in a cap situation of where

1021
00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:57,920
Speaker 5: they may have to share some salaries at some certain positions.

1022
00:44:58,120 --> 00:45:00,319
Speaker 5: They're not in the best cap situation. So I would

1023
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:02,799
Speaker 5: rather have that wide receiver that has a little bit

1024
00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:04,600
Speaker 5: more high end talent that's more cost control.

1025
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:07,560
Speaker 1: Speaking of that cap situation, you look at edge Shoey,

1026
00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:10,799
Speaker 1: Bosa Khalil Mack. Decisions need to be made and made soon.

1027
00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:14,360
Speaker 1: Kind of a two part question Tully to a Pilow,

1028
00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:17,000
Speaker 1: two Yeah, burst it onto the scene. Do you remember

1029
00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:19,279
Speaker 1: what you thought of him last year? I know that

1030
00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:21,960
Speaker 1: when you have to evaluate a ton of guys at

1031
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:23,920
Speaker 1: twenty twenty four, some of that stuff goes out the window.

1032
00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:28,279
Speaker 1: But Tully first, and then is there another guy in

1033
00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:31,200
Speaker 1: the second, third, fourth round that you could pair with

1034
00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:33,439
Speaker 1: Tully and be kind of that future? Yeah?

1035
00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:35,799
Speaker 2: I remember evaluating Touley. I loved him a lot.

1036
00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:39,120
Speaker 5: He was really productive his final year at USC and

1037
00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:40,440
Speaker 5: I mean he could have kept all this stuff in

1038
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:43,000
Speaker 5: his dorm room and right over to the Charges. So

1039
00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:45,319
Speaker 5: it was good that he ended up getting drafted by

1040
00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:46,840
Speaker 5: the Chargers. He ended up working out for him, so

1041
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:49,280
Speaker 5: he was a really good player. And then some defensive

1042
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:51,839
Speaker 5: ends that I like. Lisa Isaac of Fenn State. He's

1043
00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:53,560
Speaker 5: one that I like quite a bit. I think he's

1044
00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:55,520
Speaker 5: one that is going to be a really big tester.

1045
00:45:55,960 --> 00:45:57,759
Speaker 5: And if you're looking more so of a late round guy,

1046
00:45:57,840 --> 00:46:01,920
Speaker 5: Gabriel Murphy of UCLA. He's one that's a little bit undersized,

1047
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:02,839
Speaker 5: but he could help right away.

1048
00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:03,440
Speaker 1: Keep him home.

1049
00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:07,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, oh the Murphy's only one terrible, But it's

1050
00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:09,680
Speaker 3: just the way, yeah it is. You mentioned the defensive

1051
00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:12,360
Speaker 3: you know, just it's an offensive heavy draft. Does that

1052
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:14,520
Speaker 3: mean that defense is and is highly graded for you

1053
00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:18,080
Speaker 3: or is it just that those groups really stand out

1054
00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:20,800
Speaker 3: this year as opposed to there's a lack of or

1055
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:25,040
Speaker 3: is there a lack of edge, interior, defensive line, linebacking, corner, safety,

1056
00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:25,760
Speaker 3: all that sort of stuff.

1057
00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:29,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, money, I think it's just how good this offensive

1058
00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:32,160
Speaker 5: class is. You have the offensive tackles that are really deep,

1059
00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:34,440
Speaker 5: the wide receivers we could see as many as seven

1060
00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:36,400
Speaker 5: from each position go in the first round. And then

1061
00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:38,200
Speaker 5: you have the quarterbacks, the top three guys at the

1062
00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:41,000
Speaker 5: top that could probably go one, two, and three at

1063
00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:42,520
Speaker 5: the top of the draft. So I think it's more

1064
00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:44,880
Speaker 5: so just the strength of this offensive class. Now we

1065
00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:47,440
Speaker 5: don't have that high end rusher like an aid In

1066
00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:49,879
Speaker 5: hutchinsoner Cavon Thibodeau in this class, and then we don't

1067
00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:52,080
Speaker 5: have that high end corner like we saw with Devin Weatherspoon.

1068
00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:55,080
Speaker 5: There's no Sauce Gardner or no Derek Stingley in this class.

1069
00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:57,040
Speaker 5: So there isn't that blue chip, high end guy on

1070
00:46:57,080 --> 00:47:00,279
Speaker 5: the defensive side. But this offensive class is really really good.

1071
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:03,480
Speaker 1: I think Jim has an advantage in that not only

1072
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:06,360
Speaker 1: does he have eighteen guys here from Michigan at the combine,

1073
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:08,640
Speaker 1: but just the big ten play being able to see

1074
00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:12,120
Speaker 1: the guys from Penn State in Ohio State. I've been

1075
00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:15,600
Speaker 1: asked this question, I think throughout the draft process, but

1076
00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:18,960
Speaker 1: just guys from Michigan that you think could fit on

1077
00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:22,399
Speaker 1: the Chargers right away, knowing the mentor scheme, knowing Jim,

1078
00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:25,520
Speaker 1: and maybe the learning curve not being as big for

1079
00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:27,160
Speaker 1: a rookie because you know those guys.

1080
00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:30,520
Speaker 5: Oh man, how much time do we have that there's

1081
00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:33,279
Speaker 5: a lot. I think Blake Korn could be a really

1082
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:35,240
Speaker 5: good fit for them. They have a need at running

1083
00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:37,799
Speaker 5: back depending on what happens with Austin Eckler. But one

1084
00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:39,680
Speaker 5: that I love if you're looking for a nickel corner

1085
00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:42,680
Speaker 5: is Mike Senrasteel. He's one of my favorites overall in

1086
00:47:42,719 --> 00:47:45,360
Speaker 5: this draft class. Actually started as a receiver at Michigan,

1087
00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:47,960
Speaker 5: then transferred over to the defensive side. And if there

1088
00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:50,080
Speaker 5: was one player who I thought was the best on

1089
00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:53,120
Speaker 5: Michigan's defense last year and the most consistent Samer Steel.

1090
00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:55,360
Speaker 3: He was absolutely terrific last year. What about let's go

1091
00:47:55,800 --> 00:47:58,520
Speaker 3: other two levels. How about Chris Jenkins, how about Junior Colson? Like,

1092
00:47:58,560 --> 00:48:01,799
Speaker 3: what about those guys? And it seems as though maybe

1093
00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:04,799
Speaker 3: Chris lines up for second round Austin Johnson free agent

1094
00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:07,520
Speaker 3: Sebastian Josepha is gone. You know, you have a couple

1095
00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:10,120
Speaker 3: younger guys, Scott Matt Locket. It seems like they're more

1096
00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:13,160
Speaker 3: developmental prospects on this team. But interior line is a

1097
00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:15,799
Speaker 3: big need for this team as well. I just feel

1098
00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:18,279
Speaker 3: like Jordan more focused so much on offense because of

1099
00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:22,359
Speaker 3: Justin Herbert, that were not realizing how bad the depth

1100
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:24,239
Speaker 3: situation is on the defensive side of the ball for

1101
00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:24,640
Speaker 3: this team.

1102
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:28,239
Speaker 5: Yeah, Jenkins, he's a fantastic run defender. That's something that

1103
00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:31,080
Speaker 5: you see frequently on tape with him. Now, the pass

1104
00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:33,759
Speaker 5: rush production really wasn't there for him last year. But

1105
00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:37,239
Speaker 5: with Michigan's scheme and with Mintor, they don't really have

1106
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:39,680
Speaker 5: that high end rusher that you want to get multiple

1107
00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:41,799
Speaker 5: sacks throughout games. So he's really just holding up at

1108
00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:43,839
Speaker 5: the point of attack and he's just doing his job,

1109
00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:46,200
Speaker 5: but some of the flash plays that you see for him,

1110
00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:47,839
Speaker 5: you know it eventually is going to click for him.

1111
00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:50,160
Speaker 5: He has the NFL DNA. His dad was a terrific

1112
00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:51,920
Speaker 5: player for the Panthers for a long time. So he's

1113
00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:53,960
Speaker 5: one I think is going to get better over time,

1114
00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:55,680
Speaker 5: but more so of a second round player. So if

1115
00:48:55,719 --> 00:48:57,680
Speaker 5: they're looking for a Day two defensive tackle, he definitely

1116
00:48:57,719 --> 00:48:59,919
Speaker 5: could be a fit. And Junior Colson, depending on team

1117
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:01,480
Speaker 5: or scouts that you talk to, they say he's the

1118
00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:03,879
Speaker 5: best linebacker in this draft class, a plug and play

1119
00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:05,360
Speaker 5: guy I think is gonna be really productive.

1120
00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:08,000
Speaker 1: Safety seems to be a little light in terms of

1121
00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:11,879
Speaker 1: depth in this class. Obviously it starts with Irwin James

1122
00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:14,200
Speaker 1: in that secondary, but the Chargers do need safety help

1123
00:49:14,239 --> 00:49:18,080
Speaker 1: as well. Is there anybody that kind of flashes in

1124
00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:18,960
Speaker 1: those bid rounds?

1125
00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:21,840
Speaker 5: Yeah? Jayden Hicks from Washington State is one that I

1126
00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:24,240
Speaker 5: like quite a bit. He's one of my favorite safeties.

1127
00:49:24,239 --> 00:49:26,160
Speaker 5: I think I have him as my fifth ranked safety

1128
00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:27,800
Speaker 5: at the position right now. I don't think there's a

1129
00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:30,959
Speaker 5: first round guy in this safety class, but second, third, fourth,

1130
00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:32,600
Speaker 5: I think that's where you're gonna start to see these

1131
00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:35,400
Speaker 5: players really come off the board quite a bit, so

1132
00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:38,359
Speaker 5: Jadan Hicks would definitely be one Tyler Nuban if they're

1133
00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:41,080
Speaker 5: looking for somebody on day two of Minnesota. He's one

1134
00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:43,200
Speaker 5: that the buzz has kind of fizzled a little bit

1135
00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:45,719
Speaker 5: with him, But I think as we get closer to

1136
00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:47,600
Speaker 5: the process, we're starting to see him be a little

1137
00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:49,560
Speaker 5: bit more visible. He didn't end up playing, he didn't

1138
00:49:49,600 --> 00:49:52,000
Speaker 5: play in the Senior Bowl, but once he starts to

1139
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:54,600
Speaker 5: become a little bit more visible, he's gonna test here

1140
00:49:54,680 --> 00:49:56,239
Speaker 5: this week as well. I think he's gonna really do

1141
00:49:56,320 --> 00:49:58,440
Speaker 5: a good job. One of the things you often hear,

1142
00:49:58,760 --> 00:50:02,800
Speaker 5: you know, Jordan, your money rounds are three four, like

1143
00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:05,680
Speaker 5: right in there. And I guess it's so much if

1144
00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:08,719
Speaker 5: it comes down to evaluation and what I guess how

1145
00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:12,080
Speaker 5: you evaluate when you are trying to project what you

1146
00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:13,879
Speaker 5: think these players are gonna do at the next level.

1147
00:50:14,280 --> 00:50:19,160
Speaker 5: How much of those rounds for you are traits versus production?

1148
00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:21,520
Speaker 5: If that makes sense, Yes, it does. I think it

1149
00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:24,799
Speaker 5: just depends on the position. Honestly, just because we've seen

1150
00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:27,400
Speaker 5: defensive ends, a lot of teams take those guys in

1151
00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:29,279
Speaker 5: the second or third round. Maybe they didn't have the

1152
00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:31,759
Speaker 5: production but they have the traits just because eventually you

1153
00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:34,200
Speaker 5: know it's gonna click for them. Liked Neil Hunter is

1154
00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:37,080
Speaker 5: a great example. I think he only had like ten

1155
00:50:37,160 --> 00:50:39,359
Speaker 5: sacks during his time at LSU, but eventually it ended

1156
00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:41,800
Speaker 5: up clicking for him. So defensive end is more so

1157
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:44,319
Speaker 5: traits based, but wide receiver. You want to see those

1158
00:50:44,360 --> 00:50:47,520
Speaker 5: guys be productive, just because if you didn't produce in college,

1159
00:50:47,560 --> 00:50:49,920
Speaker 5: you're probably not gonna produce in the NFL. So I

1160
00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:52,680
Speaker 5: would say it's more so positioned specific. When you're talking

1161
00:50:52,719 --> 00:51:00,160
Speaker 5: about that center. We've talked about JPJ from Oregon, it's

1162
00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:04,239
Speaker 5: is he number one in your eyes? Yeah?

1163
00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:06,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think he's the best closes.

1164
00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:11,120
Speaker 5: I don't think it's gonna be after the Combine, especially

1165
00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:12,840
Speaker 5: how he played after the Senior Bow or at the

1166
00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:15,640
Speaker 5: Senior Bowl too. I think he really distanced himself to

1167
00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:18,800
Speaker 5: being in his own tier. I think his clock probably

1168
00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:21,719
Speaker 5: starts at sixteen with the Seahawks, and then I would

1169
00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:24,319
Speaker 5: be surprised if he got past Dallas at twenty four.

1170
00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:27,000
Speaker 5: So I think that's probably where his range is gonna

1171
00:51:27,040 --> 00:51:28,640
Speaker 5: end up. But it's a really good center class Like

1172
00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:31,280
Speaker 5: I like Zach Frazer of West Virginia. I like Cedric

1173
00:51:31,360 --> 00:51:33,600
Speaker 5: Van Pryan of Georgia. He's more so probably fourth and

1174
00:51:33,640 --> 00:51:36,120
Speaker 5: fifth round guy. And then also Graham Barton of Duke

1175
00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:38,000
Speaker 5: He's another that you're gonna hear quite a bit about,

1176
00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:40,600
Speaker 5: but there's some depth later on in this center class.

1177
00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:42,640
Speaker 5: Hunter Nor's that of Penn State is one name that's

1178
00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:44,960
Speaker 5: created quite a bit of buzz. A bowl Lemmer of

1179
00:51:45,080 --> 00:51:47,359
Speaker 5: Arkansas is another name, probably fourth and fifth round that's

1180
00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:48,160
Speaker 5: created some buzz too.

1181
00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:50,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, it feels like, you know the way that it's

1182
00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:53,960
Speaker 3: lining up for the Chargers, especially after the press conferences,

1183
00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:56,200
Speaker 3: what Jim Harbaugh had to say, what your teas had

1184
00:51:56,280 --> 00:51:58,800
Speaker 3: to say, what Greg Roman then had to say about

1185
00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:03,600
Speaker 3: the run game in terms of like hitting doubles, like

1186
00:52:03,719 --> 00:52:05,320
Speaker 3: you don't want to I think you said it a

1187
00:52:05,320 --> 00:52:07,239
Speaker 3: little bit earlier, like you can't afford to w like

1188
00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:10,759
Speaker 3: it's right. Where are those doubles? Do you think in

1189
00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:13,440
Speaker 3: this in the in the draft, that that makes sense?

1190
00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:15,440
Speaker 3: It shit offensive? Like if you're picking at five, which

1191
00:52:15,480 --> 00:52:17,160
Speaker 3: you feel, and even if you trade down to eight

1192
00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:20,800
Speaker 3: or ten, are you more comfortable with a high floor

1193
00:52:20,920 --> 00:52:22,920
Speaker 3: for one of the old linemen or are you more

1194
00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:24,920
Speaker 3: comfortable with the high floor for one of the wide receivers.

1195
00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:26,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, money, I think it all depends on how they

1196
00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:29,399
Speaker 5: feel about Trey Pipkins. What is their true feeling about

1197
00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:31,759
Speaker 5: Trey Pipkins. Do you feel as if he fits your scheme?

1198
00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:34,319
Speaker 5: Can he fit and being a run dominant Greg Roman scheme?

1199
00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:35,400
Speaker 5: Also can he stay healthy?

1200
00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:36,240
Speaker 2: Of course?

1201
00:52:36,320 --> 00:52:39,680
Speaker 5: And then what is his projection? His projection higher than

1202
00:52:39,719 --> 00:52:41,960
Speaker 5: a Joe Ault or Olu Fashion who with some of

1203
00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:44,520
Speaker 5: these other Talise Fluogga, some of these other tackles. And

1204
00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:46,400
Speaker 5: if it is not, if you don't feel comfortable with that,

1205
00:52:46,480 --> 00:52:48,560
Speaker 5: I will look to trade back and recoup some of

1206
00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:50,880
Speaker 5: those Day two picks and then trade or excuse me,

1207
00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:53,239
Speaker 5: take a Talise Fi Wagga or a JC Latham or

1208
00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:53,920
Speaker 5: somebody like that.

1209
00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:57,200
Speaker 1: Last one for me, Jordan, And it kind of speaks

1210
00:52:57,239 --> 00:52:57,880
Speaker 1: to the running game.

1211
00:52:57,920 --> 00:52:58,040
Speaker 5: You know.

1212
00:52:58,120 --> 00:53:01,480
Speaker 1: The Chargers have I think guys like Joshua Kelly and

1213
00:53:01,560 --> 00:53:04,240
Speaker 1: Isaiah Spiller in the fourth round and for whatever reason

1214
00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:06,120
Speaker 1: it hasn't worked out. We haven't seen much of Isaiah

1215
00:53:06,160 --> 00:53:09,200
Speaker 1: Spiller at all with the Chargers, so maybe this is

1216
00:53:09,239 --> 00:53:12,239
Speaker 1: a new era for him as well. But in terms

1217
00:53:12,239 --> 00:53:15,040
Speaker 1: of the running back position, they want to kind of

1218
00:53:15,120 --> 00:53:18,080
Speaker 1: retool this room. So whether they do it free agency

1219
00:53:18,320 --> 00:53:21,359
Speaker 1: or the draft, is there a guy or a couple

1220
00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:23,080
Speaker 1: of guys that may be starting in a round three

1221
00:53:23,160 --> 00:53:24,800
Speaker 1: or four that you could see as bell cows or

1222
00:53:24,840 --> 00:53:27,240
Speaker 1: guys who could be productive in a Jim Harball system.

1223
00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:29,279
Speaker 5: So I did a Q and A on Twitter the

1224
00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:32,040
Speaker 5: other day, and I'm gonna speak this position and this

1225
00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:36,120
Speaker 5: player and this team into existence. Braylan Allen of Wisconsin

1226
00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:39,080
Speaker 5: and Jim Harborough or a matchmate in him for each other,

1227
00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:41,440
Speaker 5: Like it's so perfect. I can just see Jim watching

1228
00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:44,000
Speaker 5: film on him, just seeing the six foot two, two

1229
00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:46,480
Speaker 5: hundred and forty five pounds twenty year old running back

1230
00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:48,920
Speaker 5: and just being a sledgehammer in his offense.

1231
00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:49,879
Speaker 1: I just love the fit.

1232
00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:52,000
Speaker 5: Now you have to pay more so or receiving running

1233
00:53:52,040 --> 00:53:53,799
Speaker 5: back with him, just because he's not going to give

1234
00:53:53,800 --> 00:53:56,120
Speaker 5: you a lot of production as a receiver. But Braylan

1235
00:53:56,160 --> 00:53:58,880
Speaker 5: Allen is just such a perfect fit in Greg Roman's offense,

1236
00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:02,279
Speaker 5: especially plan a lot of twelve and thirteen personnel, those

1237
00:54:02,360 --> 00:54:05,520
Speaker 5: tight condensed formations. It's just him being a sledgehammer in

1238
00:54:05,560 --> 00:54:06,960
Speaker 5: that offense. It's a match made in head.

1239
00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:09,960
Speaker 3: It's a big ten guy too. You know what, how

1240
00:54:09,960 --> 00:54:11,759
Speaker 3: about pairing him with Frank gorse Kid. Yeah, you know

1241
00:54:13,120 --> 00:54:15,560
Speaker 3: little Frank or back on the back on the roster, right,

1242
00:54:15,600 --> 00:54:18,560
Speaker 3: last one. And we certainly appreciate Jordan uh same same

1243
00:54:18,680 --> 00:54:21,400
Speaker 3: question really, but just different room. Tight end And we

1244
00:54:21,480 --> 00:54:23,800
Speaker 3: already talked about brock Bauers and let's just take that

1245
00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:27,600
Speaker 3: off the table. Gerald Evert's free agent Donald Parhamp Like,

1246
00:54:27,640 --> 00:54:29,279
Speaker 3: when you look at that tight end room, it does

1247
00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:32,520
Speaker 3: look like for what this offense wants to do, probably

1248
00:54:32,560 --> 00:54:36,439
Speaker 3: gonna need to be remade. Just why tight end, even

1249
00:54:36,480 --> 00:54:38,560
Speaker 3: a blocking tight end? What does what does that look

1250
00:54:38,680 --> 00:54:41,120
Speaker 3: like in this particular draft? And do you see something?

1251
00:54:41,320 --> 00:54:43,080
Speaker 3: And maybe it's the Big Ten, Maybe it's Ohio State

1252
00:54:43,120 --> 00:54:45,080
Speaker 3: and Michigan where you go get those guys? Yeah, two

1253
00:54:45,120 --> 00:54:46,879
Speaker 3: guys come to mind that. I think hardball is gonna

1254
00:54:46,960 --> 00:54:49,799
Speaker 3: like Theo Johnson of Penn State more so of your

1255
00:54:50,280 --> 00:54:52,440
Speaker 3: He's kind of a mixture of why an f tight end.

1256
00:54:52,480 --> 00:54:53,960
Speaker 5: You can move him around a little bit. He's not

1257
00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:55,800
Speaker 5: gonna give you a whole bunch as far as a blocker,

1258
00:54:55,880 --> 00:54:59,560
Speaker 5: but receiving production. He had seven receiving touchdowns during this

1259
00:54:59,680 --> 00:55:01,919
Speaker 5: final eight games at Penn State. He came on really

1260
00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:04,160
Speaker 5: late in the bowl game against Old Miss too, So

1261
00:55:04,280 --> 00:55:06,680
Speaker 5: he's one. He's actually my third ranked tight end right now,

1262
00:55:06,760 --> 00:55:10,919
Speaker 5: behind Bowers and Jatavian Sanders of Texas. And then THEO

1263
00:55:11,000 --> 00:55:13,800
Speaker 5: Johnson I just talked about and then also I just

1264
00:55:13,880 --> 00:55:16,440
Speaker 5: drew a blame. THEO Johnson is the one that I

1265
00:55:16,560 --> 00:55:16,960
Speaker 5: really like.

1266
00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:17,839
Speaker 2: He's one.

1267
00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:19,799
Speaker 5: I can't remember the other. I had another on my mind,

1268
00:55:19,840 --> 00:55:21,560
Speaker 5: but THEO Johnson is one of that. Oh it's cased

1269
00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:24,279
Speaker 5: over another big ten guy. I was like, who's the

1270
00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:26,240
Speaker 5: other big ten guy? But yeah, cased over of Ohio

1271
00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:28,080
Speaker 5: State is another that I like quite a bit.

1272
00:55:28,239 --> 00:55:31,359
Speaker 1: This isn't like a Kincaid Musgrave Laporta type draft though,

1273
00:55:31,360 --> 00:55:33,720
Speaker 1: where it's it's it's deep like last year, though.

1274
00:55:33,640 --> 00:55:33,759
Speaker 5: Is it?

1275
00:55:34,360 --> 00:55:35,440
Speaker 2: Uh No, I don't think so.

1276
00:55:35,640 --> 00:55:37,680
Speaker 5: It's more so of a pick of flavor that you

1277
00:55:37,840 --> 00:55:39,560
Speaker 5: liked with this tight end class last year, it was

1278
00:55:39,600 --> 00:55:42,000
Speaker 5: a combination of both, and I think all those guys

1279
00:55:42,080 --> 00:55:44,080
Speaker 5: had high end trades. You don't see those big time

1280
00:55:44,160 --> 00:55:47,200
Speaker 5: receiving guys after Bowers and Sanders. It's kind of like,

1281
00:55:47,320 --> 00:55:49,000
Speaker 5: do you want the inline guy, do you want the

1282
00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:51,239
Speaker 5: receiving guy? Do you want the one that's more so

1283
00:55:51,440 --> 00:55:54,000
Speaker 5: just gonna be a blocking guy. So just depending on

1284
00:55:54,080 --> 00:55:56,120
Speaker 5: what flavor that you like. This really isn't a combination

1285
00:55:56,200 --> 00:55:57,640
Speaker 5: of both or high end trads in this group.

1286
00:55:57,680 --> 00:55:59,160
Speaker 3: I know we should last thing, but I'm gonna add

1287
00:55:59,160 --> 00:56:00,960
Speaker 3: one more because it just came to mind. We've told

1288
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Speaker 3: this story on the pod before that Jim Harborugh told

1289
00:56:03,840 --> 00:56:05,799
Speaker 3: when he was hired at San Diego and he said

1290
00:56:05,840 --> 00:56:08,719
Speaker 3: he had a conversation with coach Bo and Bo said,

1291
00:56:08,719 --> 00:56:10,000
Speaker 3: you know you're going to have a tight end the

1292
00:56:10,040 --> 00:56:12,080
Speaker 3: place with his hand in the ground, Yes, sir, You're

1293
00:56:12,080 --> 00:56:15,239
Speaker 3: gonna have a fullback, Yes sir. Are you gonna run power, yes, sir.

1294
00:56:15,440 --> 00:56:17,600
Speaker 3: So he said, all right, then you could be a coach.

1295
00:56:18,280 --> 00:56:20,759
Speaker 3: Is there a fullback in this draft? Is there a

1296
00:56:20,840 --> 00:56:24,279
Speaker 3: recard that John Harbaugh has in Baltimore that Jim can

1297
00:56:24,400 --> 00:56:27,960
Speaker 3: welcome to the Lorenzo O'Neil to get that position back

1298
00:56:28,000 --> 00:56:29,280
Speaker 3: in the good graces of the Bolts.

1299
00:56:29,760 --> 00:56:32,840
Speaker 5: Ben Soonnott of Kansas State, who has one of my

1300
00:56:32,920 --> 00:56:36,080
Speaker 5: favorite stories in the draft. So he was a six

1301
00:56:36,320 --> 00:56:39,760
Speaker 5: sport athlete in night sport. Yeah, you played every single

1302
00:56:39,800 --> 00:56:42,080
Speaker 5: sport that you could think of, and he only had

1303
00:56:42,120 --> 00:56:43,640
Speaker 5: one offer coming out of high school and it was

1304
00:56:43,680 --> 00:56:45,719
Speaker 5: a D two school. He ended up walking on at

1305
00:56:45,800 --> 00:56:48,480
Speaker 5: Kansas State and he built himself up over time. Start

1306
00:56:48,520 --> 00:56:50,520
Speaker 5: off as a fullback, transition to more so of an

1307
00:56:50,680 --> 00:56:52,359
Speaker 5: h type of tight ends where he can move him

1308
00:56:52,360 --> 00:56:54,400
Speaker 5: around quite a bit. But if you want him to

1309
00:56:54,480 --> 00:56:56,759
Speaker 5: be that sledgehammer and lead in the aformation, he can

1310
00:56:56,840 --> 00:56:59,560
Speaker 5: do that. You want him playing hip of the offensive tacole,

1311
00:56:59,640 --> 00:57:01,560
Speaker 5: he can do that as well. So Benceon not definitely

1312
00:57:01,640 --> 00:57:03,319
Speaker 5: is one. You know what, I got one more?

1313
00:57:04,480 --> 00:57:07,520
Speaker 3: There we go go all day, just because I called

1314
00:57:07,560 --> 00:57:09,800
Speaker 3: a ton of Standford games when when Jim Harpo was

1315
00:57:09,840 --> 00:57:12,000
Speaker 3: there and Owen Marisic was one of my favorite players.

1316
00:57:12,040 --> 00:57:13,640
Speaker 3: Obviously we don't get a lot of two way guys.

1317
00:57:13,719 --> 00:57:15,279
Speaker 3: Are there any two way players in the draft?

1318
00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:16,600
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1319
00:57:16,840 --> 00:57:21,320
Speaker 5: So Siva from Oh yeah, yeah, I like him better

1320
00:57:21,320 --> 00:57:23,640
Speaker 5: as a running back. They played him at safety, Yeah,

1321
00:57:24,120 --> 00:57:28,000
Speaker 5: safety destroyed the ball, destroyed them. Oh, I think he's

1322
00:57:28,040 --> 00:57:30,520
Speaker 5: gonna be awesome. I would play him as a running back.

1323
00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:32,560
Speaker 5: I think he's one player that we look back on

1324
00:57:32,680 --> 00:57:35,000
Speaker 5: this draft. You're going to be like, man, I wasn't

1325
00:57:35,000 --> 00:57:36,960
Speaker 5: he drafted higher? It's like everybody's looking at him.

1326
00:57:36,960 --> 00:57:37,440
Speaker 1: As a safety.

1327
00:57:37,480 --> 00:57:39,200
Speaker 2: He should have been her running back the entire time.

1328
00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:41,360
Speaker 1: So he's one dude got he's got the answers to

1329
00:57:41,480 --> 00:57:44,040
Speaker 1: the test. And of course that's that's why I'm comfortable

1330
00:57:44,080 --> 00:57:46,880
Speaker 1: Pepper and him. Some guys I want Pepper Jordan feel

1331
00:57:46,880 --> 00:57:48,640
Speaker 1: good about it. You're the best. And this is what

1332
00:57:48,840 --> 00:57:51,280
Speaker 1: fans love, names, right, names that they can like look

1333
00:57:51,320 --> 00:57:53,080
Speaker 1: at over the next couple of months, do some research

1334
00:57:53,120 --> 00:57:55,880
Speaker 1: on and actually watched her in the combine and and see, okay,

1335
00:57:56,560 --> 00:57:58,520
Speaker 1: this could this be a future charger. A lot of

1336
00:57:58,520 --> 00:58:00,680
Speaker 1: big ten guys. So I hear Penn State, to hear Wisconsin.

1337
00:58:00,680 --> 00:58:02,960
Speaker 1: I'm like, all right, Jim knows these dudes, you know, independent,

1338
00:58:03,120 --> 00:58:05,280
Speaker 1: just Michigan. So hey, you're the best.

1339
00:58:05,400 --> 00:58:09,240
Speaker 2: Thank you so much, appreciate it, thank you, so.

1340
00:58:09,320 --> 00:58:12,560
Speaker 1: Mondy out of the gate, Jordan and Sam. Fantastic interviews.

1341
00:58:12,720 --> 00:58:14,600
Speaker 1: A nice kickoff to the week. Yeah, and you know,

1342
00:58:14,680 --> 00:58:16,160
Speaker 1: today we had all the head coach and all the

1343
00:58:16,560 --> 00:58:19,760
Speaker 1: GM pressers. So tomorrow will be a little bit more

1344
00:58:20,040 --> 00:58:23,560
Speaker 1: player centric. All the groups will be in town either

1345
00:58:23,640 --> 00:58:26,480
Speaker 1: going through their medicals, their team interviews, all of those

1346
00:58:26,880 --> 00:58:28,920
Speaker 1: sort of things, and we'll do I think, you know,

1347
00:58:29,040 --> 00:58:31,400
Speaker 1: continue to do our deep dive onto this draft class.

1348
00:58:31,480 --> 00:58:33,600
Speaker 1: You know, Nate Tice gonna join us tomorrow from the

1349
00:58:33,640 --> 00:58:36,240
Speaker 1: Athletic does a great job breaking down film. We'll have

1350
00:58:36,360 --> 00:58:39,640
Speaker 1: Lance Zerline nobody does better with offensive line, and Lanson.

1351
00:58:39,680 --> 00:58:43,520
Speaker 1: Interestingly enough, both of those guys their dad's legendary offensive

1352
00:58:43,560 --> 00:58:45,080
Speaker 1: line coaches in the NFL.

1353
00:58:45,120 --> 00:58:46,840
Speaker 3: We have both of them. We've already reached out to

1354
00:58:47,160 --> 00:58:50,360
Speaker 3: a number of other folks as well, Jared, surprises are coming. Factly,

1355
00:58:50,520 --> 00:58:52,640
Speaker 3: you know, I won't even mention names. Surprises are coming.

1356
00:58:52,680 --> 00:58:53,880
Speaker 3: We got a lot of folks that will end up

1357
00:58:53,920 --> 00:58:57,200
Speaker 3: joining us, so be sure to Again, it's not just

1358
00:58:57,320 --> 00:58:59,520
Speaker 3: one day, it's not just two. We're gonna end up

1359
00:58:59,520 --> 00:59:01,600
Speaker 3: having three odds this week from the Combine, so be

1360
00:59:01,680 --> 00:59:03,360
Speaker 3: sure to check in Wednesday and Thursday.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, adjust your schedules accordingly. Charges Weekly Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday.

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Speaker 1: This week we will be back Wednesday for buddy Um Chris.

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Speaker 1: This has been Chargers Weekly from the Combine and Indie.

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Speaker 1: We'll see you next time.