WEBVTT - INTERVIEW: Hill Harper On Senate Run, Who Controls Our Money, Student Debt Relief, Biden Stepping Down + More 0:00:00.480 --> 0:00:02.560 Wake that ass up in the morning. 0:00:02.880 --> 0:00:08.119 Breakfast Club Morning, Everybody's teen j n V Jess hilarious, 0:00:08.160 --> 0:00:08.840 charlamage the guy. 0:00:08.920 --> 0:00:10.760 We are the breakfast club. We got a special guest 0:00:10.800 --> 0:00:12.840 in the building. Indeed, got the brother Hill harp. 0:00:13.600 --> 0:00:15.600 Yeah, good, good, good, good to be here. Man, this 0:00:16.800 --> 0:00:18.560 this is a new studio to me. This is beautiful. 0:00:18.840 --> 0:00:21.200 I haven't been in this this studio a. 0:00:21.200 --> 0:00:21.600 Year and a half. 0:00:21.880 --> 0:00:24.800 Yeah, year and a half. Yeah, it'd be two years 0:00:24.800 --> 0:00:25.520 in like January. 0:00:26.280 --> 0:00:28.320 Maybe they gotta pull pull out couch. 0:00:28.480 --> 0:00:29.159 Maybe I could just. 0:00:31.360 --> 0:00:32.600 Exactly. It's very nice. 0:00:33.200 --> 0:00:35.760 You got a bigger things to be doing, man, Yeah, 0:00:36.560 --> 0:00:38.640 Senate in Michigan. Run for US Senate in Michigan. 0:00:38.680 --> 0:00:42.600 We're gonna we got this primary August sixth, which is 0:00:42.640 --> 0:00:47.159 a huge deal. Man. It's about turnout. We it's a 0:00:47.280 --> 0:00:51.360 huge challenge to get communities out because so many of 0:00:51.440 --> 0:00:53.440 our people don't even know what a primary is. 0:00:53.960 --> 0:00:54.120 Right. 0:00:54.240 --> 0:00:56.080 People come up, man, I'm vote for you in November. 0:00:56.520 --> 0:00:56.880 I got you. 0:00:56.920 --> 0:00:58.560 I'm gonna vote for you, and comlin, no, I'm gonna 0:00:58.600 --> 0:01:00.480 do this. I'm gonna do that. And I'm like dog, 0:01:00.560 --> 0:01:02.800 if you don't vote for me August six I won't 0:01:02.840 --> 0:01:06.040 be on the ballot in November. And in many ways 0:01:06.040 --> 0:01:09.480 I blame the Democratic Party for that. They show up 0:01:09.520 --> 0:01:12.560 with tens of millions of dollars in October saying save 0:01:12.640 --> 0:01:15.280 the country. Come on, come on, y'all, turn out, But 0:01:15.560 --> 0:01:18.440 they want to place their establishment candidates in the primary, 0:01:18.480 --> 0:01:20.479 so they want low turnout in the primary, so they're 0:01:20.520 --> 0:01:23.760 doing no GOTV work. So my campaign literally has to 0:01:24.400 --> 0:01:27.160 try to educate folks, this is why you need to vote. 0:01:27.400 --> 0:01:29.720 The primary is actually more important than the general because 0:01:29.720 --> 0:01:31.639 if you can't get the right candidates on the ballot 0:01:31.680 --> 0:01:34.520 in the general election, then you have a very limited choice. 0:01:34.720 --> 0:01:37.479 And therefore people keep saying, man, nothing changes. 0:01:37.640 --> 0:01:40.560 Do you think that the Democratic Party wipe their ass 0:01:40.600 --> 0:01:44.160 with democracy by not having a primary to properly appoint 0:01:44.240 --> 0:01:47.520 a new top of the ticket for president? 0:01:47.680 --> 0:01:50.200 You know, I don't know about that. I don't know 0:01:50.320 --> 0:01:52.880 because the time is so tight. You know, you're talking 0:01:52.880 --> 0:01:55.800 about less than one hundred days, so you know, it's 0:01:55.840 --> 0:01:57.440 almost that thing you kind of got to get in 0:01:57.600 --> 0:02:00.800 line and get organized. And you know, it's something I 0:02:00.880 --> 0:02:04.000 say all the time about many many of us that 0:02:04.080 --> 0:02:06.440 are you know, more progressive. I say, man, we can 0:02:06.480 --> 0:02:08.320 agree on nine things disagree on one and people are like, 0:02:08.400 --> 0:02:10.560 I can't work with them. And then you know the 0:02:10.639 --> 0:02:13.520 other side, they can disagree on nine, agree on one 0:02:13.560 --> 0:02:15.880 and go storm the Capitol together. So so I think 0:02:15.919 --> 0:02:18.680 that that, you know, when you look at the reality 0:02:18.720 --> 0:02:22.720 of the situation and timing wise, you got to make 0:02:22.760 --> 0:02:25.120 a decision and go. Folks have to line up, get 0:02:25.200 --> 0:02:27.679 behind folks and and and do that in that type 0:02:27.720 --> 0:02:28.200 of process. 0:02:29.960 --> 0:02:32.000 Year though they were after for a year. 0:02:32.240 --> 0:02:37.639 I mean, listen, I mean I think in hindsight, if 0:02:38.200 --> 0:02:39.840 I mean, we can even go back. I mean, you know, 0:02:39.919 --> 0:02:42.440 everything is much clearer in hindsight, right, I mean, Ruth 0:02:42.480 --> 0:02:45.080 beta Ginsburg should have stepped down, you know, I mean 0:02:45.200 --> 0:02:49.520 and made that decision. Uh. And certainly, I'm sure there 0:02:49.560 --> 0:02:53.639 would have been a process of uh President Biden having 0:02:53.960 --> 0:02:55.480 being able to do it in a way that you know, 0:02:55.560 --> 0:02:58.120 he's getting celebrated and all this, and it didn't feel 0:02:58.160 --> 0:03:01.400 like it's but day man, Sometimes I just say, you know, 0:03:01.560 --> 0:03:04.000 God is going to take care of things the way 0:03:04.000 --> 0:03:05.799 it's going to happen, you know, and that's just it. 0:03:05.960 --> 0:03:08.640 So so this this process is playing out the way 0:03:08.680 --> 0:03:09.000 it should. 0:03:09.040 --> 0:03:10.960 Absolutely, But they also said it was a finance thing. Right, 0:03:11.000 --> 0:03:13.280 because Harris's name was on the ticket. It's easy to 0:03:13.320 --> 0:03:15.320 trans over, the transfer the funds over too. 0:03:15.800 --> 0:03:17.760 They said that what we're talking about last year, like, 0:03:18.040 --> 0:03:20.200 you know, because I've been saying for the longest President 0:03:20.240 --> 0:03:22.799 Biden step down, but I just didn't think he could 0:03:22.840 --> 0:03:24.840 win in November. And I thought that was a fair 0:03:24.919 --> 0:03:27.240 question to ask. Is the Biden Harris ticket a winnable 0:03:27.320 --> 0:03:28.440 ticket in November? 0:03:28.560 --> 0:03:28.680 Right? 0:03:28.760 --> 0:03:30.600 So I've been asking that and people were saying last 0:03:30.680 --> 0:03:34.680 year they should primary them because everybody saw the decline. 0:03:34.480 --> 0:03:36.920 Right, they saw it, So I mean it was it 0:03:37.000 --> 0:03:41.480 is definitely apparent. The question is, you know, is was that? 0:03:42.400 --> 0:03:44.840 And obviously, I mean, come on, I mean we saw 0:03:44.920 --> 0:03:47.240 what we saw. You can't unsee what you saw, right. 0:03:47.400 --> 0:03:49.960 You know, my mother's eighty six years old, God bless her. 0:03:50.120 --> 0:03:53.240 She lives with me in Detroit and me and my son, 0:03:53.320 --> 0:03:55.760 and you know, she's not moving the way she used 0:03:55.760 --> 0:03:57.640 to move, right, and that's not her fault. And she's 0:03:57.680 --> 0:04:01.960 one of the most brilliant people. First black female Lanta 0:04:02.000 --> 0:04:03.960 sez I is one of the first black female sez 0:04:04.000 --> 0:04:05.640 I was in the country. But at the end of 0:04:05.680 --> 0:04:09.080 the day, you know, time can't be for the two 0:04:09.240 --> 0:04:11.240 yes right time is one is undefeated. 0:04:11.360 --> 0:04:14.400 That is a video of you fifteen years ago, right 0:04:15.240 --> 0:04:17.840 predicting that Kamala Harris was going to be the president. 0:04:18.320 --> 0:04:18.720 That's right. 0:04:19.160 --> 0:04:21.600 What did you see in her fifteen years ago that 0:04:21.720 --> 0:04:24.560 made you think that before people even knew who she was. 0:04:24.800 --> 0:04:28.120 I think leadership tenacity. You know, at that time in 0:04:28.160 --> 0:04:31.920 two thousand and seven, Barack Obama had asked myself and 0:04:32.160 --> 0:04:35.200 Kamala to go to Iowa to stump for him to 0:04:35.760 --> 0:04:37.560 help him win the Iowa caucus. He felt that if 0:04:37.560 --> 0:04:39.400 he couldn't win the Iowa caucus, there was no way 0:04:39.600 --> 0:04:41.520 to win that primary because he was going up against 0:04:41.560 --> 0:04:45.119 establishment and establishment money, et cetera. And so folks stump 0:04:45.120 --> 0:04:47.160 for him. So we became friends. She asked me to 0:04:47.200 --> 0:04:50.880 contribute to her book, which I did. Eventually, I hosted 0:04:50.920 --> 0:04:53.640 the first fundraiser for her in southern California for her 0:04:53.680 --> 0:04:56.600 Attorney general's race, and then did some other things with 0:04:56.920 --> 0:04:58.720 you know, black professionals, different things, And that's where that 0:04:58.839 --> 0:05:01.800 quote was from, I introducing her to Black professionals event. 0:05:02.080 --> 0:05:06.360 And so you talk about someone with intelligence, someone who's 0:05:06.560 --> 0:05:11.720 work ethic, someone who you know just just also very 0:05:11.800 --> 0:05:14.719 passionate about wanting to make the world better and figure 0:05:14.720 --> 0:05:16.480 out ways to do that. And so there was no 0:05:16.720 --> 0:05:19.680 you know in my mind, you know, when I went 0:05:19.720 --> 0:05:22.560 to Harvard Law School with Barack. You know, you see 0:05:22.640 --> 0:05:25.840 things in people and you can see just who and 0:05:26.040 --> 0:05:28.760 how what they're made of, and and there's you know, 0:05:29.360 --> 0:05:32.800 you talk about uh, you know, there's there's a lot 0:05:32.839 --> 0:05:34.560 of things that I think that she's going to have 0:05:34.760 --> 0:05:37.479 to do to appeal you know, from a Michigan point 0:05:37.480 --> 0:05:40.280 of view, to clean up some of the problems with 0:05:40.279 --> 0:05:42.600 the Arab Muslim community in Michigan, et cetera. But she 0:05:42.640 --> 0:05:44.279 can do that work. There's an opportunity here. She can 0:05:44.360 --> 0:05:46.440 do that work. She can, she can, I believe, get 0:05:46.480 --> 0:05:46.920 that done. 0:05:47.400 --> 0:05:51.240 I think her rhetoric around Israel and God that thus 0:05:51.320 --> 0:05:53.440 far has been stellar, I. 0:05:53.520 --> 0:05:55.720 Really do, because we're not going to the net and 0:05:55.760 --> 0:05:58.120 Yahoo speech was it was definitely a step in the 0:05:58.200 --> 0:06:00.200 right direction. That was a step in the right direction, 0:06:00.400 --> 0:06:00.839 for sure. 0:06:00.760 --> 0:06:02.280 Absolutely, But even the lame I mean, even when she 0:06:02.320 --> 0:06:06.200 says she's like, Israel does have the right to defend itself, 0:06:06.520 --> 0:06:09.440 but we still have to work towards a ceasefire. We 0:06:09.520 --> 0:06:12.520 need a ceasefire. As well watching innocent people get killed. 0:06:13.120 --> 0:06:14.840 You know, that's right, I mean, I and to me 0:06:14.880 --> 0:06:17.280 it's so big, it's common sense rhetoric. But for whatever reason, 0:06:17.320 --> 0:06:18.200 people are afraid to say that. 0:06:18.320 --> 0:06:20.039 I say it all the time. There's no good war 0:06:20.160 --> 0:06:21.880 and there's no bad peace. I mean, that's just a 0:06:21.880 --> 0:06:24.280 simple fact. Is we want to save lives. At the 0:06:24.360 --> 0:06:27.440 end of the day. Humanity and human rights have to 0:06:27.560 --> 0:06:30.440 come first in every discussion. That's for everybody. And that's just. 0:06:30.560 --> 0:06:32.560 And the idea of if you say, you know, when 0:06:32.560 --> 0:06:35.800 I call for ceasefire, for instance, my social media got 0:06:35.880 --> 0:06:38.240 ratcheted down by ninety eight percent. And this is like 0:06:38.640 --> 0:06:40.280 last November when I called for I was one of 0:06:40.320 --> 0:06:42.360 the first US sent canons in the country to call 0:06:42.440 --> 0:06:46.279 for And the idea that if you're calling for ceasefire 0:06:46.480 --> 0:06:52.080 is some somehow that's pro terrorism or anti Israel or 0:06:52.160 --> 0:06:56.000 anti you know, human or this, it's not true. The 0:06:56.120 --> 0:06:59.279 thing is I can't stand terrorists. Terrorists, that's that's violence 0:06:59.320 --> 0:07:02.680 and malevolent and that's I can't stand hostages, that's violence 0:07:02.720 --> 0:07:06.360 and malevolence. But I also can't stand carpetbag carpet bombing, 0:07:06.640 --> 0:07:11.600 and and and and and ultimately covering places with indiscriminate 0:07:11.680 --> 0:07:14.800 bombing and killing women and children, and and and the 0:07:14.960 --> 0:07:18.840 injury and death death's toll. And so it's heartbreaking. I 0:07:18.960 --> 0:07:21.360 was in a meeting last night in Dearborn in Michigan 0:07:21.760 --> 0:07:24.280 with a number of folks from the Palestinian community, and 0:07:24.800 --> 0:07:28.680 their hearts are ripped out because they're seeing their family 0:07:28.800 --> 0:07:30.880 members and so. But at the same time, you have 0:07:30.960 --> 0:07:33.600 a whole set of folks who have you know, hostages 0:07:33.600 --> 0:07:35.760 have been taken and their hearts are broken. So there's 0:07:35.880 --> 0:07:40.320 so much pain and grief. But the idea is, how 0:07:40.400 --> 0:07:42.840 do we get to a place where we reduce the 0:07:42.960 --> 0:07:46.640 level of violence and the level of uh malevolent behavior. 0:07:47.160 --> 0:07:49.240 We can get there, but you don't get there through 0:07:49.280 --> 0:07:51.240 a bomb. We don't get there. 0:07:51.560 --> 0:07:53.400 We had Governor Whitmer up here, and I'm gonna ask 0:07:53.440 --> 0:07:54.920 you the same thing, because you know you're in Michigan. 0:07:55.000 --> 0:07:56.920 How much of an impact do you think that's gonna 0:07:56.920 --> 0:07:59.560 happen November? Because when you see these hundreds of thousands 0:07:59.560 --> 0:08:04.120 of people who voted uncommitted, you know, you know during primaries, 0:08:04.560 --> 0:08:06.600 it's like, what do you think, how are you gonna 0:08:06.800 --> 0:08:08.120 that's what you November to be like? You know what 0:08:08.560 --> 0:08:09.440 we're going to show up Now. 0:08:09.520 --> 0:08:11.680 Well, this may sound self certain, but I think if 0:08:11.840 --> 0:08:13.800 if I can come to and win this primary, we 0:08:14.280 --> 0:08:16.040 you know, at the top of the ticket in Michigan, 0:08:17.160 --> 0:08:21.320 Harris and Harper ticket there we're able to to unify 0:08:21.640 --> 0:08:25.080 those communities. Because the one thing I'm proud about, among 0:08:25.320 --> 0:08:27.520 among many things, with our campaign, as we'll be able 0:08:27.520 --> 0:08:30.680 to unify the Black community in Michigan as well as 0:08:31.000 --> 0:08:34.199 the Arab Muslim community. I have the endorsements from you know, 0:08:34.360 --> 0:08:37.439 most of the top leaders uh IN in Michigan that 0:08:37.480 --> 0:08:40.199 are from the Araban Muslim community, as well as the 0:08:40.800 --> 0:08:43.920 Arab American Political Action Committee, the Arab and Muslim Political 0:08:43.960 --> 0:08:46.320 Action Committee, but also all the endorsements from the top 0:08:46.640 --> 0:08:50.880 black political leaders, which is oftentimes communities that haven't come together. 0:08:51.000 --> 0:08:52.880 And so we have to figure out a way to 0:08:53.000 --> 0:08:55.319 unify communities. Because when you look back and you look 0:08:55.360 --> 0:08:59.280 at look at doctor King and Jim Crow, you look 0:08:59.320 --> 0:09:02.360 at Nelson Della and apartheid, we're in these types of 0:09:02.720 --> 0:09:06.719 seminal moments, chiros moments, moments that are inflection points, and 0:09:06.880 --> 0:09:09.040 this is one of them, and it's but it's reflective 0:09:09.080 --> 0:09:11.319 of a of a culture of violence in general. You know, 0:09:11.360 --> 0:09:13.679 there was two young two young kids, young people that 0:09:13.760 --> 0:09:16.000 were shot on the east side of Detroit just two 0:09:16.000 --> 0:09:19.439 weeks ago. Nineteen other people injured. And so violence is 0:09:19.520 --> 0:09:21.079 violence no matter of what happens on the east side 0:09:21.080 --> 0:09:23.480 of Detroit or if it's happening in Gaza. Death is 0:09:23.559 --> 0:09:26.959 death wherever it's happening. And are our eyeballs have to 0:09:27.040 --> 0:09:30.640 be about what how do we save humans? How do 0:09:30.720 --> 0:09:32.880 we create human rights, how we do create opportunity? That 0:09:33.040 --> 0:09:35.120 has to be our litmus test. It's not about trying 0:09:35.120 --> 0:09:36.240 to do political posturing. 0:09:37.080 --> 0:09:37.600 Absolutely. 0:09:37.679 --> 0:09:39.760 I was gonna ask you know last time you spoke 0:09:39.800 --> 0:09:41.400 about it a little bit. But for people that just 0:09:41.440 --> 0:09:43.240 tuning in now, you know, a lot of people will 0:09:43.280 --> 0:09:45.360 say they know you as an actor and a lot 0:09:45.360 --> 0:09:46.559 of the stuff that you did, But what got you 0:09:46.600 --> 0:09:48.480 into politics? What made you say? You know what, I'm 0:09:48.480 --> 0:09:50.319 gonna put this acting bag down, put it on hold 0:09:50.360 --> 0:09:52.000 for a little bit, and make sure. 0:09:51.880 --> 0:09:54.320 My community is giving a good acting bag, good doctors, 0:09:54.400 --> 0:09:55.120 and don't remind it. 0:09:55.160 --> 0:10:01.480 Don't remind you get a lot of please don't. At 0:10:01.480 --> 0:10:04.480 the end of the day, when I got into acting, 0:10:04.520 --> 0:10:09.600 I wanted to be like actors that were activists, Harrab Belafonte, 0:10:10.000 --> 0:10:12.319 Ozzie Davis. So I did, I did the movie, get 0:10:12.360 --> 0:10:14.040 on the bus with Ozzie. I got to sit next 0:10:14.080 --> 0:10:16.120 to him for you know, God rest his soul for 0:10:16.520 --> 0:10:18.880 weeks on end and him just counseling me talking about 0:10:18.880 --> 0:10:21.240 when Malcolm X would come to the house and doctor 0:10:21.320 --> 0:10:23.840 King and he did what he would do. Gil Scott Herron, 0:10:23.920 --> 0:10:27.599 you know, all this and one have impact, you know, 0:10:27.720 --> 0:10:29.599 in that kind of way that moves the meter. And 0:10:29.720 --> 0:10:33.280 it's clear that the days through that entertainment lens are gone. 0:10:34.920 --> 0:10:38.480 There is a level of collusion and corruption in our 0:10:38.559 --> 0:10:43.720 federal government through basically because of Citizens United. I mean, 0:10:43.760 --> 0:10:46.520 you know, many people think that the reaction to Obama 0:10:46.559 --> 0:10:49.120 presidency was the Tea Party. I think that's the beer. 0:10:49.280 --> 0:10:52.360 The true reaction to Obama presidency was Citizens United in 0:10:52.480 --> 0:10:56.360 twenty ten that said money is speech, called corporations people, 0:10:56.559 --> 0:10:59.520 and allowed unfettered dark money to rein into our political 0:10:59.559 --> 0:11:03.720 system electropolitic. Okay, okay, so check it out. So there 0:11:03.800 --> 0:11:07.920 was a court ruling that basically said, no matter who 0:11:08.040 --> 0:11:12.400 you are, you could spend unlimited money to get somebody 0:11:12.480 --> 0:11:15.400 elected and you don't even have to report who it 0:11:15.520 --> 0:11:18.320 is and how it's that's called dark money. That's dark money. 0:11:18.400 --> 0:11:20.880 So like a foreign country could be doing it if 0:11:20.920 --> 0:11:23.679 they if they washed the money through the process, yes 0:11:23.840 --> 0:11:26.000 they could. And so you don't know every time it 0:11:26.120 --> 0:11:27.600 Just for folks out there, every time you see an 0:11:27.640 --> 0:11:31.559 ad that says paid for by Patriots for America or 0:11:31.640 --> 0:11:35.360 paid for by moving Michigan for you know, pay whatever 0:11:35.800 --> 0:11:40.640 that is, just think a dark money or think whatever 0:11:40.760 --> 0:11:43.800 that is because you don't know it's called an independent expenditure. 0:11:43.920 --> 0:11:45.400 You don't know who paid for that. You don't know 0:11:45.440 --> 0:11:47.640 what it is. And the threats that have come at me, 0:11:48.480 --> 0:11:50.760 I've called for, like, for instance, shutting down a Line five, 0:11:50.840 --> 0:11:54.320 which is an oil pipeline that runs in our Great Lakes. Right, 0:11:54.400 --> 0:11:56.640 twenty one percent of the world's fresh water supply touches 0:11:56.720 --> 0:12:01.040 Michigan shores, and and it gets most of the benefit 0:12:01.080 --> 0:12:03.120 of this oil. I want to shut it down. So Enbridge, 0:12:03.200 --> 0:12:06.880 the oil company has they have independent expenditures, right, so 0:12:06.960 --> 0:12:10.200 they want to make sure someone like me doesn't get elected, right, 0:12:10.320 --> 0:12:12.959 and they're going to spend money to do that, to 0:12:13.080 --> 0:12:16.360 smear me, smear your name, et cetera. Right, because they 0:12:16.400 --> 0:12:18.800 have an interest. Same thing with the NRA and the 0:12:18.840 --> 0:12:22.760 gun lobby, Same thing with APAK, the American Israel Political 0:12:22.800 --> 0:12:27.040 Action Committee, Same thing with big oil, big pharma, big farmers. 0:12:27.040 --> 0:12:30.720 Spent three hundred and seventy five million dollars on elections 0:12:30.760 --> 0:12:33.559 in twenty twenty two. They're on course to spend over 0:12:33.600 --> 0:12:36.480 the four hundred million in twenty twenty four. So people 0:12:36.679 --> 0:12:39.679 know intrinsically that they're not being represented. They know that 0:12:39.760 --> 0:12:43.439 the big donors, the dark money is representing them. You know, 0:12:44.520 --> 0:12:46.719 seventy four percent of Michigan Democrats are in favor of 0:12:46.760 --> 0:12:49.960 sees fire, less than ten percent of the federal delegation 0:12:50.559 --> 0:12:53.760 has called for it. That's because of the money, right, 0:12:53.840 --> 0:12:56.959 that's because they've been bought. And so I'm running to 0:12:57.400 --> 0:12:59.000 show that you don't have to be bought. I say 0:12:59.040 --> 0:13:00.440 I won't be bought, I won't be lost, I won't 0:13:00.440 --> 0:13:03.240 be bullied. They offer me twenty million dollars to drop 0:13:03.320 --> 0:13:06.840 out of my Senate race and primary Rasheeta to leave. Right, 0:13:07.200 --> 0:13:10.679 they think that money that everyone's on the take, that 0:13:10.880 --> 0:13:13.800 only people just want power, and people just want money. 0:13:14.400 --> 0:13:16.960 But if you're not for sale, you can actually charte 0:13:16.960 --> 0:13:20.640 a path that represents people over politics, over party. I'm 0:13:20.679 --> 0:13:22.760 running to actually hold both the Democratic Party and the 0:13:22.800 --> 0:13:26.800 Republican Party accountable because they both have been derelict to 0:13:26.920 --> 0:13:27.640 so many community. 0:13:27.679 --> 0:13:29.480 But it seems like it seems like every party has 0:13:29.520 --> 0:13:32.080 been bought. It just seems like you could see where people, 0:13:32.880 --> 0:13:35.160 you know, whether it's it's the gun lobbying or whatever 0:13:35.160 --> 0:13:36.559 it is, it seemed like everybody's being brought. 0:13:36.559 --> 0:13:38.360 It seems like that's the thing in politics. 0:13:38.400 --> 0:13:41.280 That's right, but money, See, money doesn't vote. People vote, 0:13:41.559 --> 0:13:44.280 and that's and see, this is what the big challenge 0:13:44.280 --> 0:13:47.720 has been. How do you get people to understand they 0:13:47.800 --> 0:13:51.000 still have the power even though they look and they're like, 0:13:51.080 --> 0:13:53.360 there's something. I was at the gas pump the other 0:13:53.440 --> 0:13:56.120 day and so I drive an F one fifty. So 0:13:56.200 --> 0:13:58.040 it costs over one hundred dollars to fill it up. 0:13:58.800 --> 0:14:00.640 And so the dudes I'm up and next toe he's 0:14:00.640 --> 0:14:03.319 say like, man, this is so expensive. And I said, yeah, 0:14:03.360 --> 0:14:05.600 did you know that your tax dollars are given big 0:14:05.679 --> 0:14:08.680 oil literal tax breaks. He's like, and the price are 0:14:08.720 --> 0:14:10.040 going up? He said yeah, And I said, did you 0:14:10.160 --> 0:14:12.959 know that virtually all Chevron exce on mobile all of 0:14:12.960 --> 0:14:17.120 them are posting over one hundred billion in profits every quarters. 0:14:18.400 --> 0:14:20.360 He's like, well, how come my prices are like this, 0:14:21.280 --> 0:14:25.800 I'm saying, because there's collusion, corporate collusion between your federal 0:14:25.880 --> 0:14:28.920 representatives and big oil. Right, and so people are like, 0:14:29.000 --> 0:14:31.880 they know something's wrong. They know they're getting the short 0:14:31.960 --> 0:14:34.040 end of the stick. They just can't figure out why. 0:14:34.160 --> 0:14:37.080 Because it's dark it's dark money. And so if we 0:14:37.240 --> 0:14:39.760 don't get rid of citizens United our democracy is done. 0:14:39.840 --> 0:14:42.280 Okay, I'm sorry, No, no, go ahead, go ahead. I 0:14:42.320 --> 0:14:43.440 want to go back to what you said about the 0:14:43.520 --> 0:14:45.640 because I read that or I saw that somewhere where 0:14:45.680 --> 0:14:47.640 they offered you. I know, I didn't know how much 0:14:47.640 --> 0:14:49.480 it was. You said, twenty million dollars. 0:14:50.000 --> 0:14:53.160 To go a giins receetd to me or talk no 0:14:53.240 --> 0:14:55.200 no no, to run against her. So, so the idea 0:14:55.240 --> 0:14:57.640 would be, I was, I'm running for United States Senate 0:14:58.280 --> 0:15:00.520 and I'm running against one of their CA antidates that 0:15:00.600 --> 0:15:04.160 they back. So APAC backs my opponent. Okay, so they 0:15:04.200 --> 0:15:07.400 would get a two fer Rashida to leave is the 0:15:08.080 --> 0:15:11.640 public enemy number one for them, right they you know, 0:15:11.720 --> 0:15:14.240 they just got rid of Jamal Bowman, right. So, but 0:15:14.480 --> 0:15:15.840 but she's even more. 0:15:16.360 --> 0:15:18.400 Targeted, and Corey Bush. They got to talking on court. 0:15:18.600 --> 0:15:20.360 They're going they're going after Corey Busch. And so so 0:15:20.520 --> 0:15:22.840 the guy down in Missouri took the deal, that same 0:15:22.920 --> 0:15:25.320 deal I was offered. So Wesley Bell was running for 0:15:25.520 --> 0:15:28.280 US Senate down there in Missouri. He took the deal, 0:15:28.720 --> 0:15:32.040 left the Senate race and and ran against Corey Bush. 0:15:32.600 --> 0:15:35.440 So so so what they did is they figure everybody's 0:15:35.480 --> 0:15:40.040 for sale, and they they figured with you know, there's 0:15:40.120 --> 0:15:44.520 no way ten million, ten million in hard dollars, which 0:15:44.560 --> 0:15:46.840 would be they raise the money, they bundle it for you. 0:15:47.240 --> 0:15:49.320 You know, they go out in thirty three hundred dollars increments. 0:15:49.360 --> 0:15:50.880 That's the max you can get for the primery. So 0:15:51.400 --> 0:15:53.320 they'll go out and bundle the money through through their 0:15:53.400 --> 0:15:55.960 network in thirty three hundred dollars increments. That's ten million 0:15:56.000 --> 0:15:58.040 and hard dollars and then ten million what they call 0:15:58.160 --> 0:16:00.400 soft dollars. That's a nice way of saying dar money 0:16:00.520 --> 0:16:03.000 that we talked about already, and that's unlimited. So they 0:16:03.080 --> 0:16:04.960 just they find a big donor most you know, a 0:16:04.960 --> 0:16:07.440 couple of big donors to stroke million dollar checks and 0:16:07.480 --> 0:16:09.600 then you get ten million in soft, ten million in 0:16:09.680 --> 0:16:12.400 hard much in your pocket. You know, there's none in 0:16:12.480 --> 0:16:14.680 the pocket. It's to win, right, They're they're they're giving 0:16:14.760 --> 0:16:17.600 that money to to win this camp. This is all 0:16:17.640 --> 0:16:21.040 campaign dollars, right, And so so they think that everybody 0:16:21.120 --> 0:16:23.560 wants that badge on the lapel to be in Congress. 0:16:23.600 --> 0:16:26.680 That's why you're running for office, not to actually help people, right. 0:16:26.920 --> 0:16:28.880 They think that you want power more because that's what 0:16:28.960 --> 0:16:31.960 they want, right, And that's what we're filled with. We're 0:16:32.000 --> 0:16:35.840 filled with a Congress of representatives that are more interested 0:16:35.920 --> 0:16:39.400 in power maintenance and helping people. And and that's what 0:16:39.560 --> 0:16:41.400 we as people have to realize, and we have to 0:16:41.480 --> 0:16:45.040 start electing candidates that actually want to help people and 0:16:45.080 --> 0:16:47.760 they're not interested in just powermats. That's because look at 0:16:48.000 --> 0:16:52.080 both both the Republican Democratic Party are complicit and not 0:16:52.160 --> 0:16:54.320 wanting to get rid of Citizens United. Because if you 0:16:54.400 --> 0:16:56.960 really wanted to represent people first, you'd be wanting to 0:16:57.000 --> 0:16:58.600 get rid of it. You don't, you would, you would 0:16:58.640 --> 0:17:00.600 not want to have it. It's going to take a 0:17:00.640 --> 0:17:03.480 constitutional amendment to do it, or expanding the court to 0:17:03.640 --> 0:17:06.600 get a new court ruling to get rid Oficisians United. 0:17:06.680 --> 0:17:09.879 That's my biggest issue with the Democratic Party always is 0:17:09.960 --> 0:17:12.280 that they lack courage. I believe that they try a 0:17:12.320 --> 0:17:14.480 lot of political strategies, but courage and then one of them. 0:17:14.560 --> 0:17:17.760 That's why it was, you know, refreshing to see President 0:17:17.840 --> 0:17:20.240 Biden stepped down, whether they pushed them out, whatever it was, 0:17:20.520 --> 0:17:23.160 it was just refreshing to see that. But all these 0:17:23.160 --> 0:17:25.080 things that you're described or now, it takes courage to do. 0:17:25.320 --> 0:17:27.400 It takes courage to expand the Supreme Court. It takes 0:17:27.440 --> 0:17:29.240 courage to make these constitutional amendments. 0:17:29.520 --> 0:17:31.800 I don't know if they have it. That's why we 0:17:31.880 --> 0:17:33.800 got to take it. I mean, that's that's the thing. 0:17:33.960 --> 0:17:36.080 I mean, my friend said to me the other day, 0:17:36.080 --> 0:17:38.200 Hey said, hell man, you're trying to save the Democratic 0:17:38.240 --> 0:17:41.119 Party from itself, you know, because at the end of 0:17:41.160 --> 0:17:43.119 the day, you're right, it's losing it. It's you know, 0:17:43.200 --> 0:17:45.320 it's losing its way, losing its sole and we got 0:17:45.440 --> 0:17:49.160 to bring it back because of the you know, people 0:17:49.240 --> 0:17:51.000 are checking out. I mean, when you just start to 0:17:51.040 --> 0:17:53.879 see and that's the challenge here, voter apathy. People are 0:17:54.000 --> 0:17:56.679 sole It's like that study, you know when the professor 0:17:56.720 --> 0:17:59.000 would shock the dog, the dog jumped and they kept 0:17:59.040 --> 0:18:00.600 it on the same setting and the next time a 0:18:00.640 --> 0:18:02.960 shock that the dog only jumps so high. Eventually the 0:18:03.040 --> 0:18:06.240 dog stop jumping. And that's what we've done to people 0:18:06.359 --> 0:18:09.840 in the electorate. People have seen so much corruption and 0:18:09.920 --> 0:18:14.800 they're seeing so much inaction that they've stopped voting and participating. 0:18:15.480 --> 0:18:17.399 And I'm trying to wake people up. It's like that 0:18:17.480 --> 0:18:19.960 scene out of school Days, wake up, trying to get 0:18:20.000 --> 0:18:23.000 people to say, we have an opportunity. Just in Michigan 0:18:23.080 --> 0:18:25.920 with my race, I'm running against someone who didn't co 0:18:26.040 --> 0:18:28.959 sponsor the George Floyd Justinson Policing Act, didn't co sponsor 0:18:29.080 --> 0:18:33.440 Medicare for All, actually voted to not fund the state 0:18:33.520 --> 0:18:36.920