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Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning.

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Speaker 2: Breakfast Club Morning, Everybody's teen j n V Jess hilarious,

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Speaker 2: charlamage the guy.

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Speaker 1: We are the breakfast club. We got a special guest

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Speaker 1: in the building. Indeed, got the brother Hill harp.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, good, good, good, good to be here. Man, this

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Speaker 3: this is a new studio to me. This is beautiful.

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Speaker 3: I haven't been in this this studio a.

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Speaker 1: Year and a half.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, year and a half. Yeah, it'd be two years

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Speaker 4: in like January.

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Speaker 3: Maybe they gotta pull pull out couch.

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Speaker 4: Maybe I could just.

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Speaker 3: Exactly. It's very nice.

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Speaker 4: You got a bigger things to be doing, man, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: Senate in Michigan. Run for US Senate in Michigan.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna we got this primary August sixth, which is

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Speaker 3: a huge deal. Man. It's about turnout. We it's a

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Speaker 3: huge challenge to get communities out because so many of

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Speaker 3: our people don't even know what a primary is.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 3: People come up, man, I'm vote for you in November.

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Speaker 1: I got you.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna vote for you, and comlin, no, I'm gonna

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Speaker 3: do this. I'm gonna do that. And I'm like dog,

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Speaker 3: if you don't vote for me August six I won't

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Speaker 3: be on the ballot in November. And in many ways

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Speaker 3: I blame the Democratic Party for that. They show up

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Speaker 3: with tens of millions of dollars in October saying save

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Speaker 3: the country. Come on, come on, y'all, turn out, But

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Speaker 3: they want to place their establishment candidates in the primary,

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Speaker 3: so they want low turnout in the primary, so they're

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Speaker 3: doing no GOTV work. So my campaign literally has to

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Speaker 3: try to educate folks, this is why you need to vote.

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Speaker 3: The primary is actually more important than the general because

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Speaker 3: if you can't get the right candidates on the ballot

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Speaker 3: in the general election, then you have a very limited choice.

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Speaker 3: And therefore people keep saying, man, nothing changes.

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Speaker 4: Do you think that the Democratic Party wipe their ass

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Speaker 4: with democracy by not having a primary to properly appoint

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Speaker 4: a new top of the ticket for president?

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Speaker 3: You know, I don't know about that. I don't know

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Speaker 3: because the time is so tight. You know, you're talking

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Speaker 3: about less than one hundred days, so you know, it's

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Speaker 3: almost that thing you kind of got to get in

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Speaker 3: line and get organized. And you know, it's something I

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Speaker 3: say all the time about many many of us that

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Speaker 3: are you know, more progressive. I say, man, we can

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Speaker 3: agree on nine things disagree on one and people are like,

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Speaker 3: I can't work with them. And then you know the

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Speaker 3: other side, they can disagree on nine, agree on one

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Speaker 3: and go storm the Capitol together. So so I think

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Speaker 3: that that, you know, when you look at the reality

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Speaker 3: of the situation and timing wise, you got to make

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Speaker 3: a decision and go. Folks have to line up, get

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Speaker 3: behind folks and and and do that in that type

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Speaker 3: of process.

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Speaker 4: Year though they were after for a year.

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Speaker 3: I mean, listen, I mean I think in hindsight, if

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Speaker 3: I mean, we can even go back. I mean, you know,

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Speaker 3: everything is much clearer in hindsight, right, I mean, Ruth

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Speaker 3: beta Ginsburg should have stepped down, you know, I mean

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Speaker 3: and made that decision. Uh. And certainly, I'm sure there

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Speaker 3: would have been a process of uh President Biden having

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Speaker 3: being able to do it in a way that you know,

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Speaker 3: he's getting celebrated and all this, and it didn't feel

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Speaker 3: like it's but day man, Sometimes I just say, you know,

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Speaker 3: it's going to happen, you know, and that's just it.

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Speaker 3: So so this this process is playing out the way

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Speaker 3: it should.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, But they also said it was a finance thing. Right,

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Speaker 2: because Harris's name was on the ticket. It's easy to

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Speaker 2: trans over, the transfer the funds over too.

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Speaker 4: They said that what we're talking about last year, like,

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Speaker 4: you know, because I've been saying for the longest President

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Speaker 4: Biden step down, but I just didn't think he could

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Speaker 4: win in November. And I thought that was a fair

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Speaker 4: question to ask. Is the Biden Harris ticket a winnable

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 4: So I've been asking that and people were saying last

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Speaker 4: year they should primary them because everybody saw the decline.

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Speaker 3: Right, they saw it, So I mean it was it

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Speaker 3: is definitely apparent. The question is, you know, is was that?

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Speaker 3: And obviously, I mean, come on, I mean we saw

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Speaker 3: what we saw. You can't unsee what you saw, right.

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Speaker 3: You know, my mother's eighty six years old, God bless her.

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Speaker 3: and you know, she's not moving the way she used

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Speaker 3: to move, right, and that's not her fault. And she's

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Speaker 3: one of the most brilliant people. First black female Lanta

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Speaker 3: sez I is one of the first black female sez

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Speaker 3: I was in the country. But at the end of

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Speaker 3: the day, you know, time can't be for the two

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Speaker 3: yes right time is one is undefeated.

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Speaker 2: That is a video of you fifteen years ago, right

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Speaker 2: predicting that Kamala Harris was going to be the president.

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Speaker 3: That's right.

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Speaker 2: What did you see in her fifteen years ago that

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Speaker 2: made you think that before people even knew who she was.

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Speaker 3: two thousand and seven, Barack Obama had asked myself and

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Speaker 3: help him win the Iowa caucus. He felt that if

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Speaker 3: establishment and establishment money, et cetera. And so folks stump

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Speaker 3: for him. So we became friends. She asked me to

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Speaker 3: contribute to her book, which I did. Eventually, I hosted

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Speaker 3: And so you talk about someone with intelligence, someone who's

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Speaker 3: to Harvard Law School with Barack. You know, you see

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Speaker 3: how what they're made of, and and there's you know,

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Speaker 3: can do that work. There's an opportunity here. She can

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Speaker 4: I think her rhetoric around Israel and God that thus

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Speaker 3: Really do, because we're not going to the net and

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Speaker 3: Yahoo speech was it was definitely a step in the

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, But even the lame I mean, even when she

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Speaker 4: says she's like, Israel does have the right to defend itself,

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Speaker 4: but we still have to work towards a ceasefire. We

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Speaker 4: need a ceasefire. As well watching innocent people get killed.

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Speaker 4: You know, that's right, I mean, I and to me

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Speaker 3: I say it all the time. There's no good war

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Speaker 3: and there's no bad peace. I mean, that's just a

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Speaker 3: simple fact. Is we want to save lives. At the

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Speaker 3: end of the day. Humanity and human rights have to

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Speaker 3: And the idea of if you say, you know, when

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Speaker 3: I call for ceasefire, for instance, my social media got

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Speaker 3: ratcheted down by ninety eight percent. And this is like

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Speaker 3: anti you know, human or this, it's not true. The

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Speaker 3: their hearts are ripped out because they're seeing their family

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Speaker 3: We can get there, but you don't get there through

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Speaker 3: a bomb. We don't get there.

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Speaker 4: We had Governor Whitmer up here, and I'm gonna ask

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Speaker 4: How much of an impact do you think that's gonna

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Speaker 4: that's what you November to be like? You know what

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Speaker 4: we're going to show up Now.

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Speaker 3: Well, this may sound self certain, but I think if

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Speaker 3: you know, at the top of the ticket in Michigan,

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Speaker 3: Harris and Harper ticket there we're able to to unify

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Speaker 3: those communities. Because the one thing I'm proud about, among

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Speaker 3: among many things, with our campaign, as we'll be able

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Speaker 3: to unify the Black community in Michigan as well as

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Speaker 3: the Arab Muslim community. I have the endorsements from you know,

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Speaker 3: Arab American Political Action Committee, the Arab and Muslim Political

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Speaker 3: And so we have to figure out a way to

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Speaker 3: unify communities. Because when you look back and you look

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Speaker 3: this is one of them, and it's but it's reflective

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Speaker 3: of a of a culture of violence in general. You know,

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Speaker 3: there was two young two young kids, young people that

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Speaker 3: were shot on the east side of Detroit just two

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Speaker 3: weeks ago. Nineteen other people injured. And so violence is

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Speaker 3: violence no matter of what happens on the east side

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Speaker 3: of Detroit or if it's happening in Gaza. Death is

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Speaker 3: death wherever it's happening. And are our eyeballs have to

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Speaker 3: be about what how do we save humans? How do

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Speaker 3: we create human rights, how we do create opportunity? That

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Speaker 3: has to be our litmus test. It's not about trying

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Speaker 3: to do political posturing.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely.

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Speaker 2: I was gonna ask you know last time you spoke

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Speaker 2: about it a little bit. But for people that just

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Speaker 2: tuning in now, you know, a lot of people will

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Speaker 2: say they know you as an actor and a lot

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Speaker 2: of the stuff that you did, But what got you

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Speaker 3: And I'm trying to wake people up. It's like that

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Speaker 4: That's it.

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Speaker 3: And and but if we check out like like like

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Speaker 3: I mean, I can't do this. If we do that,

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Speaker 3: We have a chance. This is this is an open

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Speaker 4: you yet? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he said that he would not endorse. He thinks

433
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Speaker 3: it's not right for a former president to endorse in

434
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Speaker 3: an open uh In party race. Right, so that's a

435
00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:04,280
Speaker 3: primary and an open primary. He's like, hell, you win it.

436
00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:07,800
Speaker 3: Obviously I'll come in and indoors. Uh you against the

437
00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:10,919
Speaker 3: Republican person. Now at the end of the day, Uh,

438
00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:13,479
Speaker 3: he's always done what is the right thing, because that's

439
00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:15,800
Speaker 3: actually the proper thing to do, right, that's the right

440
00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:16,280
Speaker 3: thing to do.

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Speaker 1: It's all because nobody on the other side.

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Speaker 3: There nobody on the other side, right, And well that's

443
00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:22,679
Speaker 3: the thing.

444
00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:25,080
Speaker 1: Nobody on this side does the right thing too much.

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Speaker 3: When you think about this, there is that thing when

446
00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:32,320
Speaker 3: you say they go they go low, we go high.

447
00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:33,960
Speaker 3: The problem with that is you get your legs cut off.

448
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Speaker 4: That's the triangle offense in twenty twenty four that won

449
00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:38,040
Speaker 4: a lot of championships in the nineties.

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Speaker 3: Okay, no, and and so you know, all I can

451
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Speaker 3: do is try to fight to let people know, inform people,

452
00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:53,359
Speaker 3: educate people, and hopefully create this turnout. Because there's no

453
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Speaker 3: question I got the most supporters. The question is can

454
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Speaker 3: I convert those supporters to vote because so many people

455
00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:05,439
Speaker 3: like black. Turnout in Michigan in the last Democratic primary

456
00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:08,200
Speaker 3: was less than ten percent. That's like you count ten

457
00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:11,240
Speaker 3: people one person voted. I mean, I can't win. I

458
00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:14,359
Speaker 3: can't win with that turnout. It's impossible. But if we

459
00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:16,800
Speaker 3: don't start to realize we got to start taking our

460
00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:20,280
Speaker 3: power back. We gotta own our power, we gotta grab it.

461
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Speaker 3: If we don't start doing that, I'm talking about this

462
00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:24,720
Speaker 3: is not even just my election. I'm talking about across

463
00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:27,320
Speaker 3: the board. I'm talking about owning businesses. I'm talking about

464
00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:30,760
Speaker 3: owning our education. I'm talking about owning our vote, owning

465
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Speaker 3: our ability to self determination, all of that. If we

466
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Speaker 3: don't start acting like that and understanding the power in that,

467
00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:39,680
Speaker 3: we truly are lost. Because you know, surely Chisham said it.

468
00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:41,360
Speaker 3: I mean, come on, this is a long time ago.

469
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Speaker 3: So she said, if you don't have a seat at

470
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Speaker 3: the table, bring a folding chair. Why because you have

471
00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:46,760
Speaker 3: to have a seat at the table. And I say,

472
00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:48,240
Speaker 3: if you don't have to see the table, you're on

473
00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:49,840
Speaker 3: the menu, because that means you're getting ordered rather than

474
00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:52,359
Speaker 3: do an ordering. And we and that's the situation we

475
00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:54,600
Speaker 3: find ourselves, and we do want to empower ourselves. That's

476
00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:57,359
Speaker 3: why this, this what you're doing here is so important

477
00:21:57,359 --> 00:21:59,680
Speaker 3: because it's I believe it seeps into people's minds and

478
00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:02,560
Speaker 3: be like, Okay, this conversation was important. You know what,

479
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Speaker 3: I do have power. I do have the ability to

480
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Speaker 3: affect and have some self determination. I can actually move

481
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Speaker 3: my household, my community, my city, my state, my country,

482
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Speaker 3: and my vote actually matters. And it does, or they

483
00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:18,640
Speaker 3: wouldn't work so hard to make sure you don't vote.

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Speaker 4: Why did your opponent cancel debate?

485
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Speaker 3: Well, she is canceled every debate. We were supposed to

486
00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:28,760
Speaker 3: have five debates across the state. She's pulled out of

487
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Speaker 3: every single one of them. It's disrespectful. It's disrespectful to

488
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Speaker 3: the voter. It's disrespectful to be you know, because she's

489
00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:37,399
Speaker 3: she's doing a runout the clock mentality where if she

490
00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:39,040
Speaker 3: has all the money, she has a lot more money

491
00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:41,680
Speaker 3: than I do, so she's able to run ads and

492
00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:43,720
Speaker 3: she just thinks ads do it, you know. And what

493
00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:47,639
Speaker 3: she doesn't want is her really problematic voting record exposed.

494
00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:51,040
Speaker 3: I mean, she's horrible in so many issues, and she's

495
00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:54,120
Speaker 3: been wrong. You know, she voted against student loan debt

496
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Speaker 3: relief in twenty twenty. How do you sixty How do

497
00:22:56,680 --> 00:22:58,560
Speaker 3: you even make that but sixty three percent of black

498
00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:01,359
Speaker 3: wealth goes to paying down student loan debt. Student loan

499
00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:05,399
Speaker 3: debt is crushing. It's a regressive tax. If you're wealthy,

500
00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:07,359
Speaker 3: and this has none to do with race. If you're wealthy,

501
00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:10,280
Speaker 3: you can prefund your kids' education and therefore they're not

502
00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:13,040
Speaker 3: saddled with lifelong debt. If you're not wealthy and you

503
00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:15,600
Speaker 3: come from poor communities, you have to take out student

504
00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:18,120
Speaker 3: long debt, and then what happens is you have lifelong

505
00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:21,480
Speaker 3: debt and your education costs four x five x, seven

506
00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:24,399
Speaker 3: x ten x more than somebody else. It is a regressive,

507
00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:27,960
Speaker 3: wrong way tax and hidden costs on someone's life. And

508
00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:30,080
Speaker 3: how you're going to vote against that, I don't even

509
00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:31,760
Speaker 3: know how you make that vote debt. And that's an example.

510
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Speaker 3: She doesn't want that exposed. So that's why she doesn't

511
00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:34,560
Speaker 3: want a debate.

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Speaker 4: The stuff like you know, like you would be the

513
00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:39,879
Speaker 4: first black US ended a Michigan indust right. What does

514
00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:40,359
Speaker 4: that mean to you?

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Speaker 3: It means in a state that has so much proud

516
00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:48,359
Speaker 3: history of black political activism and representation, the fact that

517
00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:50,400
Speaker 3: we've never had a senator is crazy. I mean, you're

518
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Speaker 3: talking about the state that had Coleman Alexander Young, who's

519
00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:55,720
Speaker 3: the pioneering mayor. I mean, you know, Atlanta would not

520
00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:58,639
Speaker 3: be what Atlanta is but for Coleman Young, right, he

521
00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:02,679
Speaker 3: showed Maynor Jackson the way. Right, you have a Carolyn

522
00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:06,040
Speaker 3: Cheeks kill Patrick, and then you have the legend John Conyers.

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Speaker 3: You know, and watch this. For the first time in

524
00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:11,480
Speaker 3: fifty seven years, Michigan does not have a black Democratic

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00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:14,760
Speaker 3: representative in the federal delegation. That's out of thirteen House

526
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Speaker 3: of Representative seats and two Senate seats. It's ridiculous, the

527
00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:21,840
Speaker 3: lack of representation. So yes, I would be the first,

528
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Speaker 3: you know, we would break that cycle and also be

529
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Speaker 3: the first black Senator. It would be huge. And this

530
00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:31,800
Speaker 3: is why got to remember, though, everybody who's listening, even

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00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:35,280
Speaker 3: if you're not from Michigan, the US Senate is a

532
00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:39,760
Speaker 3: federal body that makes decisions that covers everybody. So sure,

533
00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:42,320
Speaker 3: I'd be the senator from Michigan, but what I would

534
00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:45,440
Speaker 3: be fighting for would cover off everybody. Let's just take

535
00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:47,879
Speaker 3: I'm gonna take George full of justice and policing. It's passed,

536
00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:50,280
Speaker 3: it has passed the House of Representatives, but it never

537
00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:53,399
Speaker 3: got through the Senate because someone was not there to

538
00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:55,760
Speaker 3: be able to champion and fight for it and demand it.

539
00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:58,399
Speaker 3: And you talk about no knock. When I say this

540
00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:01,320
Speaker 3: stuff is a matter of life or death, it's not hyperbole,

541
00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:07,000
Speaker 3: it's not exaggeration. No knock warrants, having a national database

542
00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:11,680
Speaker 3: for police who misconduct these are things that are part

543
00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:15,680
Speaker 3: of that that we got to get done. And you know,

544
00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:18,920
Speaker 3: and in funding, funding for public education, funding for health care,

545
00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:22,199
Speaker 3: all of these different things, common sense gun laws, these

546
00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:24,760
Speaker 3: are things that we can get done federally, women's reproductive freedom,

547
00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:28,200
Speaker 3: black maternal health. I mean, all these different things that

548
00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:31,440
Speaker 3: have to get done that covers everybody. And that's why

549
00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:35,520
Speaker 3: I'm surprised and invite people in to obviously support the campaign,

550
00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:38,080
Speaker 3: because this is to be a national movement to grab

551
00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:40,240
Speaker 3: this seat, and then we should pick off another seat

552
00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:41,920
Speaker 3: in the next cycle, and pick off another seat in

553
00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:44,800
Speaker 3: the next cycle. From a national perspective, there's only been

554
00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:46,800
Speaker 3: twelve black US centers in the history of the country.

555
00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:50,119
Speaker 3: If we had twelve right now, we'd still be underrepresented

556
00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:55,000
Speaker 3: in terms of population. Right There's been a higher percentage

557
00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:59,320
Speaker 3: of black US presidents than black US senators. It's the

558
00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:03,040
Speaker 3: toughest position to get in. Then yes, Wow, so it's

559
00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:07,600
Speaker 3: one out of forty six. I'm not a math genius Charlemagne,

560
00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:11,000
Speaker 3: but that's two point two percent, twelve out of two

561
00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:14,600
Speaker 3: thousand and three. Wow, that's zero point five percent.

562
00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:14,920
Speaker 4: Wow.

563
00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:18,399
Speaker 3: Think about that and why? The reason why is the

564
00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:19,920
Speaker 3: real powers in the sent When I was at Harvard

565
00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:22,440
Speaker 3: Law School, my constitution law professor would say all the time,

566
00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:24,800
Speaker 3: the real powers in the Senate. It's the most powerful

567
00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:28,800
Speaker 3: deliberative body in politics in the world because one hundred

568
00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:32,159
Speaker 3: people make the decision about two crucial things in this country.

569
00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:35,440
Speaker 3: Number one, confirming lifetime appointments of federal judges. We see

570
00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:37,920
Speaker 3: how that affects us down the line. And number two,

571
00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:40,720
Speaker 3: deciding how your money gets spent.

572
00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:41,640
Speaker 1: It's not glorified.

573
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Speaker 2: People don't talk about the Senate as much as they

574
00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:46,000
Speaker 2: talk about being president, or talk about vice president, or

575
00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:47,760
Speaker 2: talk about even some of the other things.

576
00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:48,720
Speaker 1: It's just not glorified.

577
00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:51,159
Speaker 3: The president doesn't control the money, right, you know, My

578
00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:53,639
Speaker 3: grandmama used to say, if you want to know someone's priorities,

579
00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:55,080
Speaker 3: if you want to know an institution or a person,

580
00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:57,359
Speaker 3: see how they spend their money. And that's what it

581
00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:00,600
Speaker 3: is you know, Mark Pocan and Barber put Forth the

582
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:03,520
Speaker 3: bill called People over the Pentagon. It was one hundred

583
00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:06,720
Speaker 3: billion dollar reduction in Pentagon spending. You know, we have

584
00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:09,720
Speaker 3: we have people in office that keep rubber stamping the

585
00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:13,320
Speaker 3: National Defense Authorization Act, the NDAA two percent, raises three percent.

586
00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:15,639
Speaker 3: All of that doing is fattening the pockets and Department

587
00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:18,600
Speaker 3: of Defense contractors. We virtually have a US Senate of

588
00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:21,760
Speaker 3: people that have been bought and this is real. They've

589
00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:25,080
Speaker 3: been bought by DD contractors, they've been bought by Big Pharma.

590
00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:28,359
Speaker 3: They've been bought, and they make decisions based off that,

591
00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:31,560
Speaker 3: not decisions in support of the people's best interest. And

592
00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:34,000
Speaker 3: that's what people have to realize. Don't check out because

593
00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:36,360
Speaker 3: of that, lean in because of that, take it back

594
00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:38,399
Speaker 3: because of that, And that's the energy that's happening. If

595
00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:42,520
Speaker 3: we give up, we've actually lost to the money interest

596
00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:45,120
Speaker 3: in the corporate collusion. We got to lean in because

597
00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:48,760
Speaker 3: people vote. We still have the power if we understand

598
00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:49,520
Speaker 3: our power and lean in.

599
00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:52,399
Speaker 1: Grab it's new tax. What's your no new tax pledge?

600
00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:53,080
Speaker 1: What is that?

601
00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:55,680
Speaker 3: Oh say, that's a pledge that the money's already there

602
00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:58,440
Speaker 3: right The seven point two trillion annual budget. It was

603
00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:01,679
Speaker 3: for the annual budget on Obama was four point two trillion,

604
00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:04,800
Speaker 3: and that included bank bailouts, and then it went up

605
00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:07,920
Speaker 3: to six point two COVID and Trump, and now we're

606
00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:10,399
Speaker 3: up to seven point two. We can't just keep taking

607
00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:13,120
Speaker 3: taking people's money because at the end of the day,

608
00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:15,719
Speaker 3: all that money is going to, like I said, DoD

609
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:18,399
Speaker 3: contract is not going to actually solve the problems that

610
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:24,800
Speaker 3: people need healthcare, education, affordable housing. Imagine that, right, It's

611
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:26,520
Speaker 3: not going back to the people. So we're gonna keep

612
00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:29,160
Speaker 3: taking the middle classes and the working classes money because

613
00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:31,359
Speaker 3: that's literally the working classes and middle classes are literally

614
00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:35,600
Speaker 3: who's supporting this country, right, Because if you make too much,

615
00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:38,560
Speaker 3: you won't qualify for the earned income tax credit, and

616
00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:41,520
Speaker 3: if you if you and then if you don't make

617
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:44,760
Speaker 3: enough to have offshore accounts and LLCs to hide your money,

618
00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:47,160
Speaker 3: so you're really not paying your fair share. All of

619
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:50,320
Speaker 3: a sudden, who's really holding enough. We don't need to

620
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:53,120
Speaker 3: take more people's money, We need to spend it differently.

621
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Speaker 4: That's the key I want to ask you, because you're

622
00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:57,719
Speaker 4: a constitutional laws resident.

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Speaker 3: Well, I went to Harvard Law School. I got my

624
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:01,000
Speaker 3: juris doctorate.

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00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:05,080
Speaker 4: Yes, Okay, Why aren't more people talking about the Supreme

626
00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:08,520
Speaker 4: Court being an illegitimate institution? Why aren't more people just

627
00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:12,320
Speaker 4: calling out the Supreme Court saying it's corrupt? Because my fear,

628
00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:14,240
Speaker 4: and I've said this to every elected official that's come

629
00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:17,400
Speaker 4: up here, let's just say the VP wins in November,

630
00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:22,200
Speaker 4: Donald Trump challenges the results of the election in light

631
00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:24,720
Speaker 4: of all the recent rulings, the wilder rulings, the Supreme

632
00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:28,600
Speaker 4: Court is done from presidential community, accepting bribes, all of that.

633
00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:31,800
Speaker 4: What makes us think they wouldn't overturn the results of

634
00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:33,840
Speaker 4: an election and then it would be a constitutional crisis?

635
00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:36,280
Speaker 4: Why not declare a constitution from crisis now while you

636
00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:37,520
Speaker 4: still got Democrats in office?

637
00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:39,760
Speaker 3: Well, I mean I think, I think there's a couple

638
00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:41,440
Speaker 3: of things. But you're absolutely right. I mean you, but

639
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:44,960
Speaker 3: but this isn't new. You go back to the Bush v.

640
00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:45,360
Speaker 4: Gore.

641
00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:48,360
Speaker 3: That's right, you know, our Gore. A lot of these

642
00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:50,920
Speaker 3: problems we have now we probably wouldn't even exist in

643
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:53,560
Speaker 3: this country. Again, I'll Gore won that election.

644
00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:56,280
Speaker 4: There's no question. I was sitting in my wife's dorm room.

645
00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:57,880
Speaker 4: I wasn't even into politics, like that. But I used

646
00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:00,640
Speaker 4: to always be watching CNN, and I'm watching and they

647
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Speaker 4: announced them as the president. Right, they announced al going

648
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Speaker 4: to the president.

649
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Speaker 3: And the court took up. So so a couple of

650
00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:09,400
Speaker 3: things have to happen. I think that there's no question

651
00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:11,800
Speaker 3: we need reform. I wrote an op ed about judicial reform.

652
00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:13,920
Speaker 3: We need to expand the court. When the court was

653
00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:16,480
Speaker 3: said at nine justices, there were thirty eight million people

654
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:19,240
Speaker 3: in this country. Now we have three hundred and sixty million,

655
00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:22,400
Speaker 3: plus tens of millions that aren't even countered in that number. Right,

656
00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:24,440
Speaker 3: So we need more people. They need they need to

657
00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:26,720
Speaker 3: handle a bigger case load. I want to see to

658
00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:30,680
Speaker 3: expand to fifteen justices. Number one, number two. I do

659
00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:34,360
Speaker 3: believe that there should be a term limit in terms

660
00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:36,520
Speaker 3: of how long you're on the Supreme Court. I believe

661
00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:38,960
Speaker 3: you should still get a lifetime appointment to the federal bench,

662
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:40,560
Speaker 3: because we don't We want to try to limit the

663
00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:42,600
Speaker 3: corruption and we don't want it to be like Congress,

664
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Speaker 3: where you know, the private enity say hey, you going

665
00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:46,560
Speaker 3: to be out in two years. You know, rule this way,

666
00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:48,560
Speaker 3: and we're going to make you a partner and pay

667
00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:51,040
Speaker 3: you millions of dollars and so so. But you only

668
00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:53,360
Speaker 3: serve on the Supreme Court for eighteen years and then

669
00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:55,960
Speaker 3: you cycle off. And that way, if it's on a cycle,

670
00:30:56,280 --> 00:31:00,600
Speaker 3: every president could appoint two justices and then you don't

671
00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:04,600
Speaker 3: have the jerremandering of withholding appointments and all the stuff

672
00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:07,280
Speaker 3: that we've seen happen. So the system has to change

673
00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:10,000
Speaker 3: the way the appointments has to change. We can fix

674
00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:12,720
Speaker 3: it by systemically. It's just like anything else. You know,

675
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:14,040
Speaker 3: what's that quote by the guy I think it was

676
00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:16,360
Speaker 3: John Clear or something like that. He says, you don't

677
00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:18,240
Speaker 3: rise to the level of your goals, you fall to

678
00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:21,320
Speaker 3: the level of your systems. We have broken systems now

679
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:24,440
Speaker 3: in government, citizens United We have a broken system of

680
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:26,640
Speaker 3: the Supreme Court and the way the appointments happen. We

681
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:30,120
Speaker 3: have broken systems that we have to fix for our democracy.

682
00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:32,360
Speaker 3: And so if we don't fix the systems, You're right,

683
00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:34,920
Speaker 3: you're going to continue to see these results. And there's

684
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:36,200
Speaker 3: no question it could play out the way you just

685
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:36,480
Speaker 3: said it.

686
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:40,480
Speaker 4: Absolutely. I don't see why people don't think it will. Yeah,

687
00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:43,600
Speaker 4: I mean he challenged it in twenty twenty, right, that's right.

688
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:46,760
Speaker 4: I just don't think in light of everything that they've

689
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:49,160
Speaker 4: done recently, I don't see why they wouldn't overturn it

690
00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:49,680
Speaker 4: this year.

691
00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:52,920
Speaker 3: If it's close, that's why you know it shouldn't. It

692
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:55,880
Speaker 3: can't be close, you know, and in that state by state, right,

693
00:31:56,000 --> 00:32:01,840
Speaker 3: and but there's no reason to think it won't be closed. One. Yeah,

694
00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:03,720
Speaker 3: but that's the popular vote. So so here's an interesting

695
00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:08,080
Speaker 3: statistic about the Supreme Court. You know, only one of

696
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:11,800
Speaker 3: the Republican appointees has been appointed by a president that

697
00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:14,080
Speaker 3: won the popular vote. Only one.

698
00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:14,680
Speaker 4: Wow.

699
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:20,120
Speaker 3: That that's wild. So you're literally talking about a representation

700
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:24,360
Speaker 3: in the on the highest court appointed by individuals who

701
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:28,360
Speaker 3: won the presidency that did not win more individual votes by.

702
00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:30,880
Speaker 4: Americans would be that one.

703
00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:36,000
Speaker 3: No, no, no, And I'm saying Republican Clarence Thomas, right,

704
00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:42,400
Speaker 3: so so so George Bush one, you know that the

705
00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:47,120
Speaker 3: first one. He So you think about this, think about

706
00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:52,320
Speaker 3: how the manipulation of the system has happened to create

707
00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:57,120
Speaker 3: the ability to govern by a minority rule. And but

708
00:32:57,200 --> 00:32:59,720
Speaker 3: that's historic too. I mean you go back to I mean, listen,

709
00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:03,920
Speaker 3: we got two senators in every state, Wyoming, North Dakota,

710
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:07,240
Speaker 3: South Dakota. They got fewer people the Metro Detroit and

711
00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:10,240
Speaker 3: they got two senators each. And so there's no question

712
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:12,920
Speaker 3: that there is an imbalance. And that's why I say

713
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:15,000
Speaker 3: to people, when we got an opportunity to grab a

714
00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:17,520
Speaker 3: Senate seat, we need to grab at it, you know,

715
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:21,640
Speaker 3: because it's already imbalanced with with the fact that those

716
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:26,480
Speaker 3: those states like that that are solo population have two senators.

717
00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:29,320
Speaker 3: I mean, California has forty million people. Niggas got two senators,

718
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:31,720
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, that's wild, that's wild.

719
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:34,080
Speaker 4: If you lose, would you go back to acting?

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00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:37,600
Speaker 3: Man? Haven't I've been working so hard, I haven't eve

721
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:39,680
Speaker 3: thought about it, you know. Maybe you know, I've never

722
00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:42,840
Speaker 3: been the type of person that's think anything I do,

723
00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:45,920
Speaker 3: I just I go all in and and then you know,

724
00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:49,240
Speaker 3: I don't do plan bs. I've never imagined plan bees.

725
00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:50,760
Speaker 1: They still reaching out to you, agents to reaching out

726
00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:51,480
Speaker 1: to you for parts and stuff.

727
00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:54,440
Speaker 3: I don't even know. I don't even talk to them. Yeah, yeah,

728
00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:57,560
Speaker 3: it's not it's not even that, man, it's you know,

729
00:33:57,960 --> 00:33:59,880
Speaker 3: I mean, I really and this may sound crazy to y'all,

730
00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:02,240
Speaker 3: but like on the show, like The Good Doctor, I

731
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:06,840
Speaker 3: was saving lives, you know, and pretend and I really

732
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:08,719
Speaker 3: feel in this world, I can save lives for real,

733
00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:12,960
Speaker 3: And so I'm so being so all in on it

734
00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:15,280
Speaker 3: and just working as hard as I can, meeting people.

735
00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:17,920
Speaker 3: And because I truly still believe, and maybe it's a

736
00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:21,360
Speaker 3: Pollyannis view and maybe I'm totally delusional, I still believe.

737
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:22,960
Speaker 3: You meet people where they are, you look them in

738
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:28,359
Speaker 3: the eye, they feel you. Ultimately, we can win. If

739
00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:30,319
Speaker 3: you do the right thing, we can win. And that's

740
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:31,600
Speaker 3: why I tell my eight year old son. So if

741
00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:33,360
Speaker 3: I'm telling my eight year old son that, I gotta

742
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:35,719
Speaker 3: believe it. But he did say to me the other day,

743
00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:38,640
Speaker 3: he said, Daddy, are you gonna win? And I said,

744
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:41,759
Speaker 3: if more people vote for me than the other person,

745
00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:43,920
Speaker 3: I win. He said, well, but are you going to

746
00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:46,720
Speaker 3: I said, I don't know. But the only thing I control,

747
00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:49,120
Speaker 3: I said. I can't control the outcome, but I can

748
00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:52,640
Speaker 3: control how hard I work. And so that's it, just

749
00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:55,840
Speaker 3: working as hard as I can and allowing people to

750
00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:58,719
Speaker 3: into the process. Senators get to hire sixty tow one

751
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:00,960
Speaker 3: hundred people think about this, No one even thinks about it,

752
00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:03,200
Speaker 3: and I go everywhere else. How many y'all know you've

753
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:04,440
Speaker 3: had two senators your whole life?

754
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:04,759
Speaker 4: How many.

755
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:06,560
Speaker 3: Y'all know ten people that worked in those offices. No

756
00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:08,680
Speaker 3: hands go five people, no hands go, three people, no

757
00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 3: hands go, two people, one person. People don't even know

758
00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:14,320
Speaker 3: it's the most powerful federal body in their life that

759
00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:17,680
Speaker 3: should be giving them direct constituency services. But they never

760
00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:21,800
Speaker 3: even meant anybody that they've been completely under unrepresented. And

761
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:23,720
Speaker 3: that's what we have to change. We have to rethink

762
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:26,120
Speaker 3: what the Senate is. Senate has to be service. It

763
00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:30,480
Speaker 3: can't be what it's been, which has basically bought politicians.

764
00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:32,920
Speaker 3: Trying to figure out how to spend your money and

765
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:34,680
Speaker 3: distribute it in a way that's not in your best

766
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:35,879
Speaker 3: interest doesn't make sense.

767
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:38,160
Speaker 4: I got one more question. What changes do the Democratic

768
00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:40,640
Speaker 4: Party need to make now that they do have this

769
00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:42,719
Speaker 4: new energy we've seen like over the last week and

770
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:46,320
Speaker 4: a half. You know what Vice President Kamala Harris, the

771
00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:48,200
Speaker 4: way she's energized the party, the way she seemed to

772
00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:51,239
Speaker 4: have bought in the party together. But what changes do

773
00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:52,319
Speaker 4: the Democratic Party need?

774
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:55,560
Speaker 3: I think you said it originally courage. Courage is my

775
00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:58,480
Speaker 3: favorite word in the English language etymology or the rule

776
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:00,560
Speaker 3: of the word. If you speak French, you know at

777
00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:02,759
Speaker 3: me his heart you gotta get it back to the

778
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:07,919
Speaker 3: heart and not you know, everybody, you can see the fake.

779
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:13,200
Speaker 3: You can see the fake. And that's what crushed Hillary Clinton.

780
00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:16,719
Speaker 3: You know, I met you know, I got invited over

781
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:20,919
Speaker 3: to her house one time in Washington and I walked

782
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:23,480
Speaker 3: in with my friend who had worked for them, and

783
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:25,640
Speaker 3: I met this woman with some jeans and a T

784
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:31,520
Speaker 3: shirt charming, smart, funny, and I literally was sitting there

785
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:33,480
Speaker 3: having a glass of wine looking at her as just

786
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:36,120
Speaker 3: the three of us, and I'm staying in my head,

787
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:39,800
Speaker 3: if this woman had run for president, she would have

788
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:45,280
Speaker 3: wiped the floor. But that pants suit over fake version,

789
00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:48,920
Speaker 3: there's no I don't The person I met in the

790
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:54,279
Speaker 3: living room was completely different and so in the same

791
00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:58,560
Speaker 3: thing they were doing with propping up President Biden, that's

792
00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:01,160
Speaker 3: not in the best interest of people. It's very easy,

793
00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:03,920
Speaker 3: open up your heart. What's in the best interests of people?

794
00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:06,680
Speaker 3: It's not about over coaching somebody. It's not about trying

795
00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:08,759
Speaker 3: to prop them up and figuring out the machinations of

796
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:11,160
Speaker 3: how do we win. It's about doing the right thing.

797
00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:14,000
Speaker 3: And if the Democratic Party gets back to that core,

798
00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:18,440
Speaker 3: then we'd win every election, because how are you losing

799
00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:21,719
Speaker 3: an argument to a populace on the other side. It

800
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:25,399
Speaker 3: just doesn't make sense. People are literally voting against their

801
00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:28,279
Speaker 3: own self interest because they feel more authenticity from the

802
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:28,719
Speaker 3: other side.

803
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:31,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, simple, I say it all the time, even with

804
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:35,319
Speaker 4: the Vice President's That's what I've been happy to see

805
00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:37,920
Speaker 4: a lot more over the last few months, but especially

806
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:40,360
Speaker 4: over the last couple of weeks. The person that we

807
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:43,279
Speaker 4: know that we've had conversations with off the air, the

808
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:46,000
Speaker 4: heart that we see, we're starting to see that we are.

809
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:48,560
Speaker 4: And if we see that over the next hundred days,

810
00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:50,239
Speaker 4: it won't it won't even be close.

811
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:53,520
Speaker 3: I completely agree. And that's why I hope someone doesn't

812
00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:55,279
Speaker 3: get in your ear and starts to try to over coach,

813
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:57,240
Speaker 3: and I don't think it'll happen. You know why, because

814
00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:02,359
Speaker 3: it's not like she's got meaning. It's almost like, once

815
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:05,120
Speaker 3: you're in the seat, you can relax. So, yeah, she's

816
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:08,080
Speaker 3: not trying to outcompete somebody, and so it's not trying

817
00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:09,719
Speaker 3: to figure out, well, what do I do to outcompete.

818
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:12,560
Speaker 3: It's just like, just be yourself because you already got it.

819
00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:17,000
Speaker 3: You already got the experience, you already have the intelligence,

820
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:20,000
Speaker 3: you already have the infrastructure. Now just listen. You could

821
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:22,800
Speaker 3: be more bold, more full of heart and bring that

822
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:25,879
Speaker 3: it's beautiful. I think we're in a great inflection moment

823
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:27,960
Speaker 3: in this country, and I'd love to be her partner

824
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:28,719
Speaker 3: in the Senate for sure.

825
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:30,200
Speaker 1: Now, if people want to support you, how can he

826
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:30,600
Speaker 1: support you?

827
00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:32,560
Speaker 3: They go straight to Hill Harper dot com. And your

828
00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:35,040
Speaker 3: support means so much. We are one week away from

829
00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:38,359
Speaker 3: August sixth, the election, and there's early voting happening right now,

830
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:41,200
Speaker 3: and basically anything that comes in now what we do

831
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:43,360
Speaker 3: is put a right back out for voter education. We

832
00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:47,759
Speaker 3: buy time on radio, we buy time on television and

833
00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:50,160
Speaker 3: all of that just to say, let people know we

834
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:53,880
Speaker 3: win this thing if enough people actually go vote. You know,

835
00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:57,279
Speaker 3: no question. High turnout we win. Low turnout, we lose.

836
00:38:57,440 --> 00:38:59,920
Speaker 3: That's just that's the real and so we have to

837
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:01,839
Speaker 3: it was a campaign. So if you go to Hill

838
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:04,560
Speaker 3: Hopper dot com, two dollars makes a difference, y'all. That's real.

839
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:07,160
Speaker 3: He buys a yard sign, It does all this stuff

840
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:08,760
Speaker 3: that we can actually repurpose quickly.

841
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:10,560
Speaker 1: So thank you all right, Well he'll hop o.

842
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:12,680
Speaker 2: Ladies and gentlemen, make sure you go out and vote

843
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:14,960
Speaker 2: August sixth in Michigan, and it's the Breakfast Club.

844
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:17,959
Speaker 1: Good morning, wake that ass up in the morning.

845
00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:19,120
Speaker 4: The Breakfast Club