Speaker 1: Swine Down with Jana Kramer and I'm Heart Radio podcast.
Speaker 2: Mike's back, yay, still alive, still man, and he has
Speaker 2: a cake happy vasecta me cake in front of him
Speaker 2: because apparently that's a thing. Now you get that vasect
Speaker 2: to me, cake, You're the best tea. How do your
Speaker 2: balls feel?
Speaker 3: Bad? Happy? You know, a little tender? Yep, but doing good.
Speaker 3: I'm physically wearing a jock strap right now, so true story.
Speaker 2: I just put down Joey for bed and I walked
Speaker 2: past our room and I see him in no joke,
Speaker 2: a jock strap which just looks like a male thong,
Speaker 2: and I was just like, what are around your butt?
Speaker 2: I know, but it's still like so now you're like
Speaker 2: butt cheeks are all. But I was like, what are
Speaker 2: you wearing? And he's like, it's a jock strap And
Speaker 2: I was like.
Speaker 3: Youtub boys, nice and tight. You gotta keep him.
Speaker 2: Are you going to continue to wear a jockstrap balls?
Speaker 3: My buddies. I was like, hey, this is kind of nice,
Speaker 3: Like everything stays out of the way up and out
Speaker 3: of the way, high and tight and just you know,
Speaker 3: then you just go about your business.
Speaker 2: I mean that must be weird to have like staggy
Speaker 2: stuff down there. Yeah, like when you're walking and stuff.
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. Little empathy for the guys.
Speaker 1: You don't understand what you deal with with bat wings?
Speaker 2: What's up?
Speaker 1: Mike doesn't get them? Now they're wearing a jockstrap?
Speaker 2: Oh does it? Like the ball stick to your the side.
Speaker 1: Of your to the thighs. And I hate it. That's
Speaker 1: why I wear it fairly tight brief because of that
Speaker 1: drives me nuts, and I still.
Speaker 3: Deal with it.
Speaker 2: Don't you use baby powder? Because I always see Mike
Speaker 2: like or like a dozen.
Speaker 1: A gallon of gold bond.
Speaker 3: More of Johnson and Johnson's kind of guy.
Speaker 2: Oh, I need a female in here because it's just
Speaker 2: real male right now?
Speaker 3: With all that, right after that Ladies episode last week,
Speaker 3: you talk about all those dreamy guys and potential hot
Speaker 3: nannies for women, Yeah, I was listening to podcasts. I
Speaker 3: didn't get through all of it yet, but I was
Speaker 3: listening to the part when Amy was talking about what
Speaker 3: if Ryan Reynolds was, you know, your trainer or nanny
Speaker 3: or whatever. And Jane's just like I I. I I
Speaker 3: was like, yeah, hid it a little bit more?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 2: I just couldn't you know, come up with the words
Speaker 2: to properly say right, it's okay.
Speaker 3: I would have said the same thing if someone said
Speaker 3: one of those two guys was my trainer and nanny,
Speaker 3: I'd be like, I I so we'd have the same reaction.
Speaker 2: Oh man, speaking of all that stuff though, I'm just
Speaker 2: going to wrap that part up. Michael was like, what
Speaker 2: are you doing. I was like, I'm in like a
Speaker 2: war right now with hot Nanny's all over the world,
Speaker 2: the Hot Nanny's Unite, even our Nanny and Nashville was like,
Speaker 2: is this something I need to be worried about? And
Speaker 2: then one of my other brit Bretts, She's like, was
Speaker 2: I ugly? I was like, oh my god, yeah, I
Speaker 2: was like Britney.
Speaker 4: No.
Speaker 2: I was like, and I've literally had to text all
Speaker 2: our past nannies and be like, you are beautiful. You
Speaker 2: are beautiful. I think you're beautiful. So I mean, really
Speaker 2: back for it. I mean a lot of times on
Speaker 2: the show, I like to I like to start conversations
Speaker 2: and that's an interesting conversation. And but also because you know,
Speaker 2: what works for me might not work for everyone else.
Speaker 2: But apparently I was a very I was offending a
Speaker 2: lot of the hot nannies saying, you know, i'm women
Speaker 2: in the workplace and they're getting It's just it was
Speaker 2: just the whole I was just.
Speaker 3: Very you know, and when you were bringing that to
Speaker 3: me and let me know when you're texting so uh,
Speaker 3: you know, intently, even like a.
Speaker 2: DM war And I'm not going to name her because
Speaker 2: I think she just wants the attention.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, no, don't get that satisfaction. The thing is,
Speaker 3: when you're telling me about it, I'm like, it's just
Speaker 3: being professional, that's all it is. You wouldn't show up
Speaker 3: to any other job interview or post a picture for
Speaker 3: your resume, which you know, some resumes nowadays people might
Speaker 3: put it like a picture You don't. You wouldn't post
Speaker 3: a picture with your stuff hanging out.
Speaker 2: But here's where she says, but so because I have
Speaker 2: big boobs, Like that's just how you're discriminating women. I
Speaker 2: was like, no, I'm actually not discriminating. Like you need
Speaker 2: to dress for the part. If a guy wore a hey,
Speaker 2: if he had a shirt off and he came to
Speaker 2: an interview right professional, or if he was you know,
Speaker 2: I mean not even a shirt off, because like your
Speaker 2: boobs can show but if you're wearing a lace literally
Speaker 2: nothing else, a barely tank top, Like, I just think
Speaker 2: you need to dress for the part. It's not about
Speaker 2: saying I don't think this woman's everything else. I don't know, Mark,
Speaker 2: what do you think?
Speaker 3: I agree?
Speaker 1: Completely professional is the answer. You don't need to be
Speaker 1: in an apron and a hair Just a professional look
Speaker 1: is what we're looking for. That's all it is, because
Speaker 1: otherwise you might have ulterior motives.
Speaker 2: Right, But she was like, just because I have big
Speaker 2: boobs doesn't mean that I want to blah blah blah,
Speaker 2: and like my boobs might be flapping around because I
Speaker 2: wear I'm like, that's fine. I'm just saying, like the
Speaker 2: first interview and meeting, I just think that you should
Speaker 2: dress more appropriately, right not, But.
Speaker 3: Then big boobs are not There's still a way to
Speaker 3: dress professionally. It doesn't matter.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but what if I mean you have to talk
Speaker 1: with it. Let's say she dresses professionally and you hire her,
Speaker 1: and then she shows up for work and after a
Speaker 1: couple of weeks she gets more comfortable, and when she
Speaker 1: starts showing up in a crop top and jeane shorts,
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, we.
Speaker 3: Have to have a talk.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I mean one of our nannies, Like she
Speaker 2: hit her boobs out a lot, and again it's fine,
Speaker 2: Like I was fine with it.
Speaker 3: Ow I what you're talking about, I actually do. Who's
Speaker 3: the actor in this family?
Speaker 2: Thank you very much, But I don't care because she
Speaker 2: loved your kids. You know, at the end of the day,
Speaker 2: it's not about and she was beautiful, Like it's I
Speaker 2: just was more trying to have a conversation about it.
Speaker 2: And it's not that I don't trust my husband, and
Speaker 2: it's not that I'm not for women's rights and letting
Speaker 2: boobs hang out. It's fine, but whatever, I can still
Speaker 2: have my opinion. It still spark a conversation. But really,
Speaker 2: like the hot nannies USA, is real have an issue
Speaker 2: and to the point where I was fearful that we're
Speaker 2: going to lose the nanny we just hired in Nashville
Speaker 2: because I didn't want her to think that we thought
Speaker 2: she was ugly or because that's not the case. She's
Speaker 2: she's beautiful, she's right for our family, and she's gonna
Speaker 2: love our kids, and that's what matters at the end
Speaker 2: of the day. Because here's what I was saying too
Speaker 2: is at the end of the day, if my husband
Speaker 2: or if I'm going to cheat, we're gonna cheat no
Speaker 2: matter what someone looks like, end of the day, no
Speaker 2: matter what they're wearing, no matter how they dress, no
Speaker 2: matter what they look like. If you're gonna cheat, you're
Speaker 2: gonna cheat.
Speaker 1: We are joined now by Katie for Vinciana, the managing
Speaker 1: director of Westside Nanny's.
Speaker 2: Oh God, are you serious?
Speaker 1: I am serious? Really yeah, Katie is her name?
Speaker 2: Here I go, I don't know where to guess.
Speaker 1: I think this is kind of the last minute.
Speaker 2: Okay, hello, Hi, Hi, Hi Katie.
Speaker 3: How are you good? How are you?
Speaker 4: I'm great. I hear you're talking about hot nanny.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is wrap it up, but I guess we'll start.
Speaker 3: We're diving back in.
Speaker 2: So you own a nanny agency. I do.
Speaker 4: I own west Side Nannies. We're based in Los Angeles,
Speaker 4: so we work with families primarily here in Los Angeles area,
Speaker 4: but also across the country if needed.
Speaker 2: So, I guess one of the main backlashes I had
Speaker 2: was I was talking about because we were trying to
Speaker 2: find a nanny and we used one of the website Nanny's.
Speaker 2: Uh outlets and I had made a comment about how
Speaker 2: they had like the perky boobs up and you know
Speaker 2: that the wives are hiring, And I got major backlash
Speaker 2: because people are like, well, women are like, you know,
Speaker 2: I have boobs and I should be able to show
Speaker 2: my boobs. And what my husband and I are saying
Speaker 2: is we just think that for an interview, you should
Speaker 2: be a little bit more professional.
Speaker 4: Well, I would agree with you, and we see those
Speaker 4: pictures too. You'd be amazed at what danny send in
Speaker 4: when they're applying for a job. But I think for us,
Speaker 4: it's not about whether someone has boobs or not. I mean,
Speaker 4: we all do right right. It's about good judgment and
Speaker 4: doff awareness and professionalism and how you're presenting yourself for
Speaker 4: a job. And I think those things are two very
Speaker 4: different things. So it's not that, oh, this nanny is hot,
Speaker 4: you know, that's the turnoff. It's that, well, if she
Speaker 4: chose to use the photo of herself to apply for
Speaker 4: professional jobs, any job, whether it be a nanny job
Speaker 4: or another, that shows a lack of good judgments, and
Speaker 4: the judgment is really important when you're hiring nanny.
Speaker 3: I agree.
Speaker 2: Have you ever had any wives like say, you know
Speaker 2: what's around that, like what if they are dressed in
Speaker 2: appropriately do you talk to them? Or how does that work?
Speaker 4: Well, we get requests, you know, every every single day
Speaker 4: from moms, and you'd be surprised the request still looks late.
Speaker 4: I mean, for every request that we have from a
Speaker 4: mom that tells us, you know, I don't want someone
Speaker 4: to pretty, we also get the request here the room
Speaker 4: around where a parent will say, hey, we need someone
Speaker 4: to fit in at the country club or go to
Speaker 4: the star set of events and not be an outsider,
Speaker 4: or you know, we don't want an any whos overlate,
Speaker 4: or we don't want this or that. We even had
Speaker 4: a mom recently tell us that, you know, my three
Speaker 4: year old seems to be more attracted to blonde, so
Speaker 4: we's like a blonde manny. I mean, we hear it all.
Speaker 3: Oh wow.
Speaker 4: But our response to that, of course, is, you know,
Speaker 4: those things shouldn't matter. First of all, there protect the characteristics.
Speaker 4: We actually can't discriminate faced about when someone looks like
Speaker 4: or the color of their skin or any of those things.
Speaker 4: But it really comes down to someone of great nanny
Speaker 4: and that comes down to experience, references, education of personality
Speaker 4: and why they really want to work in this field.
Speaker 3: So I have a question, Katie, and this you know
Speaker 3: again I'm trying to I feel like maybe this, this
Speaker 3: field like nanny, is a little bit more personal because
Speaker 3: of the interaction and the relationship care children. Right, So
Speaker 3: it's a little bit more personable, personal and connected. But still,
Speaker 3: like for any job out there, you know, you've got
Speaker 3: to address the part. You got to be professional. And
Speaker 3: the employer can hire whoever they want, and they might
Speaker 3: have their you know, kind of mindset on the kind
Speaker 3: of person they want, down to the fact of maybe
Speaker 3: how they look or how they present themselves and so on.
Speaker 3: So when it comes to something like nanny, I mean,
Speaker 3: I feel like people still have the right to I guess,
Speaker 3: ask those questions, make those requests right.
Speaker 4: They can ask them right, and a lot of times
Speaker 4: they're going after the wrong thing. And what we try
Speaker 4: to do is really reframe that to be something that's positive.
Speaker 4: When we're not going to disciminate based upon those factors,
Speaker 4: but we do really want to understand what the family
Speaker 4: is hoping for, what are the qualities that they're looking for,
Speaker 4: and what is leading to that request. But I think
Speaker 4: you've brought up a good point that I really want
Speaker 4: to touch on, where you said, this is a really
Speaker 4: personal job. It's you know, it's different than your everyday job,
Speaker 4: and I would agree with you to an extent. I
Speaker 4: think that's where a lot of problems happen is because
Speaker 4: parents do feel like, oh, this is my home. You know,
Speaker 4: this is so personal, it is a personal job, and
Speaker 4: so boundaries can sometimes fall to the wayside. And that's
Speaker 4: not just on the nanties, and that's also on the
Speaker 4: parents end. And all I think parents don't totally realize
Speaker 4: or comprehend, which is something we try to educate our
Speaker 4: clients about, is the moment you hire a nanny, you
Speaker 4: become a workplace. So it may be your home, but
Speaker 4: it's her workplace, and so you have to have boundaries too.
Speaker 4: So that means, you know, you guys, can't be walking
Speaker 4: around in your underwears if what were your own home
Speaker 4: like you were someone's workplace, So you kind of have
Speaker 4: to have some boundaries for your own home too, and
Speaker 4: then you can absolutely have her have boundaries as well.
Speaker 4: So for example, there is appropriate just could it work,
Speaker 4: like your nanny should not be wandering you're on a
Speaker 4: hot pans ser bikini that's not appropriate for the workplace.
Speaker 4: And so the nanny you hire, they are role models
Speaker 4: for your children. So you can have boundaries, and you
Speaker 4: should just like a nanny shouldn't really be talking about
Speaker 4: her date last night or her night clubbing on Saday.
Speaker 4: You also shouldn't be talking about the fight you just
Speaker 4: had with yourseuse or you know, any kind of those
Speaker 4: personal things. It does need to remain professional and really
Speaker 4: about the kids.
Speaker 2: I have a question at a very good point, by
Speaker 2: the way, I love all of that, when it comes
Speaker 2: to healthy eating habits. What if I'm not not saying,
Speaker 2: you know, we don't know what. We just hired a
Speaker 2: new nanny Nashville, but we've had a previous nanny where
Speaker 2: just eating habits weren't that good, and I've seen it.
Speaker 2: Maybe how does I how do I say that reflect
Speaker 2: now on our daughter what she might think a snack is,
Speaker 2: And how do we how do we say without hurting
Speaker 2: the nanny's fault and being like, hey, you know, this
Speaker 2: is what we need to feed our child in the house,
Speaker 2: and you know we're not going to go to donut
Speaker 2: shops and.
Speaker 3: That's just right. And in particular, what Jana's trying to
Speaker 3: beat around the bushes say that nanny is a little
Speaker 3: bit more of her weight, which there's no discrimination here,
Speaker 3: but maybe they're eating habits aren't very healthy. But we
Speaker 3: want to make sure that our kids are experiencing the
Speaker 3: eating habits that we want for them, and that Jana
Speaker 3: and I practice sure.
Speaker 4: I think it just comes back to your the job
Speaker 4: that you were hiring someone for. And really, whether or
Speaker 4: not a nanny's overweight or not doesn't mean she can't
Speaker 4: teaching children about nutrition and cook healthy meals for them.
Speaker 4: And so it's less about her own eating habits and
Speaker 4: more about what you need in your role. And so
Speaker 4: I think when you're interviewing Nanni's and it sounds like
Speaker 4: you hired someone, but if you were interviewing with us,
Speaker 4: we would say talk to everyone about that in the interview,
Speaker 4: talk about how nutrition has a partant to your family,
Speaker 4: and talk and talk about what that looks like. You know,
Speaker 4: if you get this job, you know, do these are
Speaker 4: the things we'd like to cook. I'd like you to
Speaker 4: be able to cook, cook me in a healthy meals
Speaker 4: that are well rounded. And I'm hoping that when you're
Speaker 4: working Harry to partake in the meals that you cook
Speaker 4: as well, and we just want to show them and
Speaker 4: demonstrate healthy eating houbies to the kids. Which I'm a
Speaker 4: mom too. That's super important and definitely a point that
Speaker 4: I talked about with my own mammy. So I think,
Speaker 4: just again reframing it, it's not about them. They're not
Speaker 4: causing anyone paying or the other. It's what are they
Speaker 4: going to do in their role and what do you
Speaker 4: expect on the job, and your nanny should be able
Speaker 4: to fulfill those or she's not the right one.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, I love that. And one more question before we
Speaker 3: wrap up. Katie Jan and I we've had a few
Speaker 3: nannies in the past, and we had a tendency where
Speaker 3: we would hire somebody we kind of had a prior
Speaker 3: relationship with that started as more of a friend. So
Speaker 3: definitely we had an issue with the kind of the
Speaker 3: boundaries and that, like you talked about, like our house
Speaker 3: a workplace, and we've tried to you know, we have
Speaker 3: a new nanny in Los Angeles. We just hired a
Speaker 3: new one for Nashville when we moved back there, and
Speaker 3: we really made a point to touch on the things
Speaker 3: that you're talking about and be you know, on the
Speaker 3: front end kind of discuss the things that we've learned
Speaker 3: that we need or want them, you know, for our
Speaker 3: kids to be exposed to and so on. What kind
Speaker 3: of advice though, because Jane and I are very personable,
Speaker 3: very affectionate people who we want people, whether they work
Speaker 3: for us or not, we want them to feel comfortable.
Speaker 3: We want them to feel kind of like part of
Speaker 3: the family, and and talk to us about life in general,
Speaker 3: because we just love talking and hearing about their life
Speaker 3: and we want them to be willing to share and
Speaker 3: everything like that. So what advice would you give, you know,
Speaker 3: people like Jane and I who have a hard time
Speaker 3: ourselves kind of sticking to those boundaries of employee employer relationship.
Speaker 4: I think it can be hard. I think it's something
Speaker 4: that like everyone struggles with, to be honest, and it
Speaker 4: is at this fine mind that you need to figure
Speaker 4: out exactly where it is for you. But I do
Speaker 4: think that you know the way to start off a
Speaker 4: new relationship, and I would encourage you to just for
Speaker 4: the nity you just hired, is to have what we
Speaker 4: call it a work agreement, but it's a contract. And
Speaker 4: that's where you really fell out kind of this is
Speaker 4: what we expected you, and this is what we're going
Speaker 4: to give you in return. And you know you need
Speaker 4: to be paying your name I legally, you need to
Speaker 4: make sure that she has you know that she's treated
Speaker 4: like a professional as well, and then I think you
Speaker 4: will get that back. But really putting out your expectations
Speaker 4: and then maintaining that, I think sometimes feel like, oh,
Speaker 4: she's just part of the family, and yes, that's true,
Speaker 4: but I think again those boundaries can go out the window.
Speaker 4: Oh she's just part of the family, Well, she wouldn't
Speaker 4: mind working on her day off, or she wouldn't mind
Speaker 4: doing this and that, and everything gets a little fuzzy.
Speaker 4: And I think that you do as much as you
Speaker 4: want someone to feel part of the family, you can't
Speaker 4: feel that way. Think back to a great job you had,
Speaker 4: will you really have an ethenity towards your employer and
Speaker 4: were it felt like a great fit, but you still
Speaker 4: knew it was a job and it's still professional. And
Speaker 4: I think that goes both ways. And so if families
Speaker 4: will set up a contact in the beginning, paint out
Speaker 4: the expectations, pay their nanny legally and professionally, you know,
Speaker 4: give her vacation, make it feel more like a job
Speaker 4: for her. I think that goes a long way in
Speaker 4: making sure that that behavior is also models back. And
Speaker 4: you just can't talk about everything that you would naturally,
Speaker 4: some things need to be reserved for, you know, the
Speaker 4: bedroom when you have an employee working in your home,
Speaker 4: because you just you just can't talk about everything as
Speaker 4: you would if no one was there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, boom, well, thank you so And what's the name
Speaker 2: of your agency again? In La Well, west Side Nanny's,
Speaker 2: West Side.
Speaker 4: Nanny's in La h you let us know you be
Speaker 4: happy to help.
Speaker 2: Thank you so much. We really appreciate it.
Speaker 3: Good luck, Thank you.
Speaker 2: That was really good advice.
Speaker 3: It was you're scared at first have to discuss more
Speaker 3: nanny stuff.
Speaker 2: I was just because I'm so terrified that our new
Speaker 2: nanny's going to listen to this, and I don't want
Speaker 2: her to quit because I really like quit before she starts,
Speaker 2: because I really like her.
Speaker 1: It's not about beauty, though, it's about it's about like
Speaker 1: you could have a lovely nanny. Yeah, but there are
Speaker 1: certain women that might be more I don't know, putting
Speaker 1: it out there, Like we said before, it's not saying
Speaker 1: that you can only hire but ugly nannies.
Speaker 3: That's nonsense, all right, someone's I mean, regardless, someone's going
Speaker 3: to take this the wrong way.
Speaker 2: I'm sure I realize that no matter what I say,
Speaker 2: someone's going to be offended by something that I say.
Speaker 3: Always you're a public figure.
Speaker 2: But it's frustrating because and then everyone's like, why are
Speaker 2: you Why do you comment on the negative? Because I
Speaker 2: really don't want to offend people, that's not no.
Speaker 3: But you don't have a problem stirring up, which I
Speaker 3: love because not a lot of people, you know, so
Speaker 3: many people are too politically correct. Yeah, and don't call
Speaker 3: it like to see it.
Speaker 2: Well, I don't know. I just I don't like to
Speaker 2: ever offend anyone.
Speaker 3: So well, that's their own issue for taking offense.
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Speaker 2: some of the shows, Mike's like, I want to talk
Speaker 2: about politics.
Speaker 3: Well, it's just funny because you get some of these things,
Speaker 3: some of the hot topics in society at the moment,
Speaker 3: and some of it just seems so petty, and you're
Speaker 3: just like, really, this is what we're talking about. And
Speaker 3: having a platform like this, you know, I made the
Speaker 3: joke to Janet. You realize you do want to talk
Speaker 3: about things that are meaningful, and we want that for
Speaker 3: our listeners because they can go about like we're about
Speaker 3: to talk about Danny Amidola and Olivia Coppo for a minute,
Speaker 3: that whole situation. So people, there's a million other places
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Speaker 3: can go along and see any article. Don't come here
Speaker 3: to We don't want them to come here to listen
Speaker 3: to that. We're gonna give our two cents and a minute.
Speaker 2: Well, we're gonna talk about it right now.
Speaker 3: So regardless, we're gonna talk about it right now because just.
Speaker 2: In case, if you do want the hot topics. So
Speaker 2: I don't really know. Apparently they broke up. He wrote
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Speaker 3: I mean, look from my point of view, people who
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Speaker 3: don't know their whole history, but Olivio Colpo has clearly
Speaker 3: been a climber. She's dated you're going there, I am.
Speaker 3: I look at her dating history. She's dated Tim Tebow,
Speaker 3: She's dated Ryan Lochte, she dated Nick Jonas, she dated Danny,
Speaker 3: she dated now she's talking to you know, Zed and
Speaker 3: who else? I mean, the list goes on and on.
Speaker 2: So are you saying she's famous for dating celebrities? What
Speaker 2: else is that's her thing? I will say, just to
Speaker 2: defend that point in his thing, Danny said that she
Speaker 2: got upset that he wouldn't post a lot about her,
Speaker 2: So clearly she wanted to be exactly with him, to
Speaker 2: be like, oh, I'm you know with this football player, right,
Speaker 2: which then makes sense to your point. But who knows
Speaker 2: because we don't have her side of the story. But
Speaker 2: I can see why you think that she's a social climber.
Speaker 3: I mean her, how can she just she just happened
Speaker 3: to date all these famous people.
Speaker 2: Well, you run in those circles, right, And yes.
Speaker 3: I understand that when you're in those circles, the people
Speaker 3: they introduce you to is probably someone of celebrity as well.
Speaker 2: But I mean, what is the fact that he said,
Speaker 2: you know, she's she was always upset for me for
Speaker 2: not posting about her on the page, which you know,
Speaker 2: whether he's more private, that's fine, but clearly she doesn't
Speaker 2: want the privacy. She wants to be more out there
Speaker 2: in the celebrity.
Speaker 3: But I will say any relationship, whether it's a public
Speaker 3: one like this or even a private one of people
Speaker 3: who aren't celebrities, there's some people that you know, are like, hey,
Speaker 3: why aren't you posting about me? Why aren't you posting
Speaker 3: a picture on Facebook or social media? So, regardless of
Speaker 3: celebrity or not, I've experienced and seen people like that
Speaker 3: where they want to be, you know, party of life
Speaker 3: more and post more and all that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, some people are more private, but let's spin it
Speaker 2: because some people don't post because they probably want to
Speaker 2: look available, oh for sure. So I know there's some
Speaker 2: people that out there like, oh, well, he's a he's
Speaker 2: an artist, and he doesn't need to post a photo
Speaker 2: of me, And it's like, h guy, artists don't need
Speaker 2: to have that persona that's so out the window it's
Speaker 2: not even funny. Yeah, he's not just posting you because
Speaker 2: of that. He wants to look available for not the
Speaker 2: right reasons. If anything, No record label or or TV
Speaker 2: show is not going to hire a guy because he
Speaker 2: has a girlfriend or a wife.
Speaker 3: If anything. I feel like nowadays people are becoming more
Speaker 3: marketable because of a relationship they have. Yeah, except for
Speaker 3: maybe some of these reality stars who can find themselves
Speaker 3: in the public more frequently if they're dating somebody new,
Speaker 3: like if they're she real daters. I eat Olivia Colpo,
Speaker 3: But I mean it's just like who cares.
Speaker 2: Honestly, I will say it's harder for women though, I
Speaker 2: mean they there's so many times where I felt like
Speaker 2: I had to look available because you know, someone might
Speaker 2: not hire you, which is so screwed up. And I'm
Speaker 2: glad it's changing. But I can see for the girl
Speaker 2: how it can be hard. But for the guys, I'm like,
Speaker 2: guys have it like so easy?
Speaker 3: Why?
Speaker 2: Because it's fine if you have a girlfriend or a wife.
Speaker 2: I mean, look at all the country artists and celebrities.
Speaker 2: They don't need to have that magnet. You're still you're
Speaker 2: still an You're still like a magnet, even if you
Speaker 2: have a relationship.
Speaker 3: But so you're saying a girl, a female artist, isn't
Speaker 3: as marketable for sure.
Speaker 2: I had to hide in the very beginning. I had
Speaker 2: to hide that I didn't have a boyfriend because I
Speaker 2: was supposed to look more available. That was something that
Speaker 2: was verbally told to me by my first manager.
Speaker 3: What I don't understand about that is but.
Speaker 2: A guy could have a relationship.
Speaker 3: What I don't understand is country fans. I mean, what
Speaker 3: I would love to know the ratio of female to
Speaker 3: male primarily female. Yeah, right, so why would it matter.
Speaker 2: It's just the old skew thinking, right, yeah, that's all
Speaker 2: it is.
Speaker 3: Well, that's done. Anyway, this whole, this whole situation, I
Speaker 3: don't want to spend any more time on it.
Speaker 2: It's let's take a break. Yeah, all right, So I
Speaker 2: honestly loathe perfume shopping. I don't know, I just feel
Speaker 2: like it's super overwhelming, and I don't want to commit
Speaker 2: to a two hundred dollars bottle.
Speaker 3: And I feel like anytime I've gotten you something I've missed.
Speaker 2: Well, no, I like the one thing you got me,
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Speaker 2: That's the thing. Like I might I've liked what you've
Speaker 2: gotten me, but I just feel like I don't know
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Speaker 2: like the entire life.
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Speaker 2: Interesting topic. Did you know actually that the benefits of
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Speaker 2: actually reduce the risk of cancer, heart attacks, strokes, arthritis,
Speaker 2: and dementia. According to other research, marriage is an important
Speaker 2: factor affecting the survival of heart attack patients too, which
Speaker 2: means even if you're already suffered health issues, his finest
Speaker 2: farts could actually keep you alive. Kicking and sharp, I mean,
Speaker 2: that is the silliest thing I've ever read.
Speaker 3: Society, We're just reaching man, Society. Society is just reaching
Speaker 3: to find anything.
Speaker 2: Yeah, to to your fart will give me a longer life.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's gonna be. Yeah, you're welcome. I'm gonna start
Speaker 3: saying you're welcome instead of excuse me and say honey,
Speaker 3: you're welcome every time, every time.
Speaker 2: Every time you fart. Now you're welcome. Here's a longer life.
Speaker 3: Let me put out the article that proves I'm saving
Speaker 3: your life right here.
Speaker 1: We're a lot of emails today.
Speaker 2: Oh, will you read some?
Speaker 3: I'd love to.
Speaker 1: Victoria has a question about your tattoos, Mike. She says,
Speaker 1: I love listening to your podcast and following Janna on
Speaker 1: social media and through Jenna's videos on Instagram. I have
Speaker 1: seen the slow progression of Mike's tattoos. Is there a
Speaker 1: story or a reason and Mike's decision to pick some
Speaker 1: of the tattoos he did? Is there a significance in
Speaker 1: getting them? In this time of Mike's self reflection? Thank
Speaker 1: you all so much for all you guys do and
Speaker 1: talk about.
Speaker 3: Nope, I just like them. No, I'm just kidding, No, Victoria, Yeah,
Speaker 3: there is significance to everything. It's a word, it's a sleeve,
Speaker 3: in in in progress, the process, it's gonna be a
Speaker 3: full sleeve. And everything I have is meaningful, you know.
Speaker 3: And then people have seen I have both kids handprints
Speaker 3: on my forearm with clocks.
Speaker 2: In the time that they're born, which the tattoo artists
Speaker 2: screwed it up.
Speaker 3: Oh no, he put the wrong time, but the wrong
Speaker 3: time you put because he kind of do the clock
Speaker 3: like sideways that you put four oh six as opposed
Speaker 3: to four oh one.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Oh, she's only off by a few minutes.
Speaker 2: It was still it's not the actual date or the
Speaker 2: time that our daughter was born.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's why I go to a new artist now.
Speaker 2: So and then he also has a face, but it's
Speaker 2: all about like everything means something. So the trees mean
Speaker 2: what trees.
Speaker 3: Are like forthrightness, honesty, you know, which is how I'm
Speaker 3: trying to live my life nowadays, and everything. And then
Speaker 3: the roses is symbol for new beginnings, which as you
Speaker 3: guys know, Jane and I are having. And then I
Speaker 3: have Jana's beautiful face on my shoulder, but right.
Speaker 2: Now I look like a sixty year old man because
Speaker 2: it's not finished. So there's that. And then he's you know,
Speaker 2: got kind of hairy arms, so I'll look at my
Speaker 2: face and I'll be like, I have a hair growing
Speaker 2: out of my chin. I have to pull my hair
Speaker 2: chins anyways, but now I have to pull my hair
Speaker 2: chins off my face on your arm.
Speaker 3: Every time I take my shirt off. Jana's like, can
Speaker 3: you please, next session, work on my face? Yeah, and
Speaker 3: get that done because I want to look more pretty.
Speaker 3: We see that because I'm curious or is it not?
Speaker 3: You don't want to show it till it's done.
Speaker 2: I look like a six year old woman on his arm.
Speaker 3: He doesn't look that bad. It does. Let's see here
Speaker 3: we go.
Speaker 2: It's coming off. The shirt is coming off a.
Speaker 1: Long sleeve.
Speaker 2: Instagram story.
Speaker 1: He has a sleeveless T shirt on under it, so
Speaker 1: it'll be oh wow, oh wow. I think it's lovely.
Speaker 1: So they're gonna add color to it or what are
Speaker 1: they gonna have no color?
Speaker 3: But he's got a shade it to make it look
Speaker 3: more vibrant and make it pop and just don't so
Speaker 3: it doesn't look so aged.
Speaker 1: And what is she doing in that picture because it
Speaker 1: looks like her eyes are closed.
Speaker 2: I'm praying, well.
Speaker 1: I thought maybe you were like singing into a microphone.
Speaker 1: From the original picture. They took it from no.
Speaker 2: That I don't know why why they closed my ass.
Speaker 3: Because I had it was kind of a mix between
Speaker 3: this inspirational picture that I have that's not Jana and
Speaker 3: then of a tattoo and then a picture of Jana.
Speaker 3: So we're kind of marrying the two together.
Speaker 2: But his tattoo artist he ended up changing because he
Speaker 2: didn't like the tattoo artists guy. So now we have
Speaker 2: a new one and.
Speaker 1: That's more expensive, and the new one has to finish
Speaker 1: the old one's work. Is that a weird conflict in
Speaker 1: the tattoo world.
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh definitely. I mean when I went into this shop,
Speaker 3: which is a well known shop in Los Angeles, I
Speaker 3: mean the guys I talked to first were like, are
Speaker 3: you willing to get any of that lasered off? And
Speaker 3: I looked into it and that would have been like
Speaker 3: thirty five hundred dollars to four grand and like two
Speaker 3: and a half years. So I'm like, I'm good too. So,
Speaker 3: I mean, because the work's not bad, it's just not
Speaker 3: as creative as I had hoped on something and to
Speaker 3: give them a clean, you know, canvas canvas. But this
Speaker 3: guy has been great that I'm working with and.
Speaker 1: Is it bang Bang? I hear good things about Bang Bang.
Speaker 3: It's not Bang Bang okay, But this guy's great that
Speaker 3: I'm working with, and he's been willing to kind of
Speaker 3: take what I already have and make it better.
Speaker 2: Hey, do you want to read the email from Ashley?
Speaker 1: I do actually love this. It's interesting. Ashley says, I
Speaker 1: just recently ended my four year relationship and engagement with
Speaker 1: my partner because he has a sex and porn addict.
Speaker 1: It's been almost two months, and I find myself doubting
Speaker 1: my decision a lot. He did tell me in the
Speaker 1: beginning that he was an addict, and he was in counseling.
Speaker 1: At the time. I was pretty naive to what a
Speaker 1: sex addict was and honestly never thought he would do
Speaker 1: anything to hurt me. But over the four years, he
Speaker 1: stepped out of our relationship twice, received inappropriate photos, had
Speaker 1: inappropriate conversations, and was consistently active watching porn. Through this time,
Speaker 1: he would be in and out of counseling in groups.
Speaker 1: The most recent boundary he crossed was messaging a girl
Speaker 1: he frequently sees the gym and complimenting her inappropriately on
Speaker 1: her body. I was tired of putting myself back together.
Speaker 1: I called off our wedding which is only which was
Speaker 1: only a few months away, and moved to another state.
Speaker 1: But lately I find myself doubting my decision. How do
Speaker 1: you feel confident in knowing that something you can do.
Speaker 2: That sucks. I think doubting yourself is the worst thing.
Speaker 4: But I.
Speaker 2: If you can say that you've tried everything, then I
Speaker 2: think that's easier to not doubt yourself. So I knew
Speaker 2: that I would always doubt myself to be like, would
Speaker 2: Mike have changed? And I would never have known that
Speaker 2: if I didn't try now again, if Mike knows that,
Speaker 2: if he steps out, or you know, we're done because
Speaker 2: there's so much I can personally take physically personally, like I,
Speaker 2: there's only so much like we can handle. And so
Speaker 2: if it continues to happen, even though I know that
Speaker 2: Michael is an addict and there's that possibility, he has
Speaker 2: to do his work of staying in recovery and staying
Speaker 2: in his boundaries in his work. So if it would
Speaker 2: happen me leaving, I could rest knowing that I did
Speaker 2: everything I could possibly do. So you might be having
Speaker 2: that doubt because maybe somewhere inside you, you don't think
Speaker 2: that you maybe fought as hard as you should have.
Speaker 2: So maybe that's where the doubt is coming from, because
Speaker 2: I would have had that same doubt if I divorced
Speaker 2: Mike when I found out about everything, I would have
Speaker 2: had that doubt, being like I wonder if he could
Speaker 2: have changed, I wonder if we could have made it work,
Speaker 2: if he did the work.
Speaker 3: I think it's hard for people in general to think
Speaker 3: back on something and really be confident knowing that they
Speaker 3: gave it everything they have. I feel like it's easy
Speaker 3: for people to justify it, well, maybe I could have
Speaker 3: done a bit more.
Speaker 2: I don't I disagree with you, because if you do
Speaker 2: something right now, I would divorce you and then been
Speaker 2: like I did.
Speaker 3: Everything and saying you don't. I'm just saying I feel
Speaker 3: like some people, it's easy, especially in the aftermath, like
Speaker 3: after some time has passed, like you made the decision,
Speaker 3: you're lonely and you're contemplating that right and you're just
Speaker 3: kind of like, well, did I did I really do everything?
Speaker 4: You know?
Speaker 3: And I mean I know I do that in my life,
Speaker 3: whether my football career or other things. I'm like, did
Speaker 3: I work as hard as I could, and then I
Speaker 3: try to remind myself. Yeah, yeah, I did, you know,
Speaker 3: but it's still hard, especially with something that was so
Speaker 3: meaningful for you, whether it's a relationship, whether it's a job,
Speaker 3: no matter what it is. I mean, you know, she
Speaker 3: says that at the beginning of the relationship, he disclosed
Speaker 3: to her that he wasn't at it.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Now it's four years ago. So you know, the biggest
Speaker 3: reason we've been able to reconcile and continue to make
Speaker 3: this work is because you've seen change we both have
Speaker 3: in ourselves and in one another and in on a relationship.
Speaker 3: So after four years, if she's not seeing that change
Speaker 3: and he's still doing things like that, he's clearly not
Speaker 3: doing the work right, whether he's in groups or going
Speaker 3: to meetings. If he's still doing that, he's not really
Speaker 3: in recovery. So, I mean, I think that answers her question,
Speaker 3: you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and hopefully you can rest in that knowing, because
Speaker 2: if he's not doing the work and staying in active recovery,
Speaker 2: then that's going to be impossible for you to continue
Speaker 2: on in a healthy relationship together. Yeah, so you can
Speaker 2: just be like, all right, like he couldn't do the work,
Speaker 2: and you tried. Yeah, that's that's my two sents.
Speaker 3: I agree, clearly, it was.
Speaker 1: Not a spur of the moment decision four years yeah,
Speaker 1: right right, it's not four years.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And good on you for making that hard decision,
Speaker 3: you know, a few months before the wedding.
Speaker 1: And you're the point you brought up, I think is
Speaker 1: the key point of this is, don't confuse doubts with loneliness.
Speaker 1: Because if you move to another state, you're spending a
Speaker 1: lot of time by yourself, I assume, and so you're
Speaker 1: missing him and that's normal. That doesn't mean that you made.
Speaker 2: A mistake here exactly. And also the second that you
Speaker 2: do find someone else, you're going to.
Speaker 1: Be like, oh wow, okay, oh yeah, I never realized
Speaker 1: it could be like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah yeah.
Speaker 1: Kristen's email is interesting as well. I've never heard this
Speaker 1: issue before. I can honestly state I'm really struggling in
Speaker 1: my marriage right now. My husband's sister has this weird
Speaker 1: obsession with him, and she's constantly needing his help for
Speaker 1: anything and everything. She's extremely clingy to him, and from
Speaker 1: the outside looking in, she actually she's his wife. The
Speaker 1: last straw was when she went and had a boudoir
Speaker 1: photo shoot and sent him her own brother the pictures,
Speaker 1: asking him what he thought. He agrees that wasn't right,
Speaker 1: but he won't tell her that. She's too clinging and
Speaker 1: obsessive with him. I don't know where to go from here.
Speaker 1: I've tried to talk to him about it, but nothing
Speaker 1: ever comes of it. Please help, Oh my goodness, I
Speaker 1: want to know where they're from.
Speaker 3: She can. Can someone explain to me exactly a boudoir
Speaker 3: third shoot?
Speaker 2: I think it's a lingerie shoo basically, Yes, it's a
Speaker 2: lingerie shoe, but it's you typically done for your partner,
Speaker 2: right it's done.
Speaker 1: Maybe you're engaged, maybe you're about to have a baby.
Speaker 1: Maybe you want you're thinking of having a baby, so
Speaker 1: you want to kind of preserve things. It's something for
Speaker 1: your I think it's usually a gift for your partner,
Speaker 1: got it. It's not, although Tanya was considering doing it
Speaker 1: just for herself.
Speaker 3: I know what I'm getting Janna for Mother's Day. Translates
Speaker 3: to women's private dressing room Francis, So, what's the meal version?
Speaker 4: Locker room?
Speaker 1: So she took lingerie photos of herself? I don't think
Speaker 1: they're too revealing. I don't think they're typically nude photos.
Speaker 2: No, they're just like real, like stringyie.
Speaker 1: And she sends it to her own brother.
Speaker 3: What are you saying?
Speaker 1: Never?
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, I love my brother, but I would
Speaker 2: never send him.
Speaker 1: Would throw up in my mouth.
Speaker 2: I mean, if Tara sent you lingerie, not because she's
Speaker 2: not beautiful, sisters gorgeous, but yeah, no, no, no, I
Speaker 2: can't even I don't even know how to answer this
Speaker 2: because I can't relate to it. I think that's no,
Speaker 2: she's right, it's wrong. Well, and he thinks it's wrong too, right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so he needs to tell her stop weirdo.
Speaker 1: He's not doing it. She keeps bringing it up, but
Speaker 1: nothing ever comes of it.
Speaker 3: That's just weird.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, do you think like maybe they have
Speaker 2: feelings for each other?
Speaker 3: Stop? I mean, this isn't Game of Thrones?
Speaker 2: Is that happening in Game Thrones? I don't watch Game
Speaker 2: of Thrones, but I mean you never know. I mean
Speaker 2: there's if I sent lingerie photos to my brother Steve,
Speaker 2: he would be like, what the f is wrong with you?
Speaker 2: That's disgusting? Right, So, but because he's not saying anything
Speaker 2: maybe he's not the haunts for his sister.
Speaker 1: Should Kristen go directly to the sister and have a
Speaker 1: talk with her or does that just blow it all up.
Speaker 2: If he If her husband can't, then I would, she
Speaker 2: said to.
Speaker 1: Her husband, I need you to address this, and if
Speaker 1: you don't, I will.
Speaker 2: Yes, great advice, come to Mike and Jan and Mark, Mike,
Speaker 2: Jan and Mark and we'll give you and then easton
Speaker 2: for any Uh what was that called? What you just did?
Speaker 2: Translation tips? Oh my goodness, let's take a break. Oh,
Speaker 2: I have a fun game we can play. Okay, So
Speaker 2: Mike and I like to do this thing. I don't
Speaker 2: know if it's actually a smart thing to do, but
Speaker 2: we've been able to kind of talk about our issues
Speaker 2: in a funny way. Again, don't listen to us. This
Speaker 2: might not work. This might not be Yeah, this might
Speaker 2: not be therapeutic. But sometimes what I'll say to him,
Speaker 2: if there's something bothering me, I'll say, tell me one
Speaker 2: thing that I'm doing that bothers you. So then I
Speaker 2: can then tell him the one thing that has been
Speaker 2: bothering me. So so it's just a good way to
Speaker 2: not be passive in you know, in conversation, but also
Speaker 2: learn something that maybe I might be doing that's annoying him.
Speaker 2: So let's play the game right now, Darling. Is there
Speaker 2: anything that I'm doing that is bothering you lately?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 3: What what you did yesterday?
Speaker 4: What I do?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: So so Jana goes, we we had we brought this
Speaker 3: leather couch from our garage into the house because we
Speaker 3: wanted to clean it, and then like we need to
Speaker 3: refinish it and everything because we want to move back
Speaker 3: to Nashville.
Speaker 2: We want to where we are we are okay, and so.
Speaker 3: Basically we need some some you know, stuff to refinish
Speaker 3: the couch, and we get the wrong stuff. So Jana's like,
Speaker 3: all right, well do you mind researching so you can
Speaker 3: find like what you want to use. I was like, yeah,
Speaker 3: I'll I'll research it. I'll research it. And then she's
Speaker 3: as she says that, she's like look on her phone.
Speaker 3: She's like, well, here's one. She's like, actually, you just
Speaker 3: researched it. I'm like, yeah, I told you, I'll research it.
Speaker 3: Two minutes later she's like, you know what, I'm just
Speaker 3: gonna get this one. It says it's the best on Amazon,
Speaker 3: like I'm just gonna get it, and I'm just like, okay,
Speaker 3: I'm like, what what Why did you tell me to
Speaker 3: research it? And I told you I'll take care of
Speaker 3: it when you're just gonna do it right.
Speaker 2: Now, because I well, first of fault, Oh, I'm sorry
Speaker 2: that that bothers you.
Speaker 3: Then then her text message, as I'm leaving her house
Speaker 3: to run an air with Jolie Danna goes, all you
Speaker 3: had to say was thank you.
Speaker 2: I'm just like, all you have to do is say
Speaker 2: thank you.
Speaker 3: I can't tell you how many times I picked up
Speaker 3: my phone and put it back down on my way
Speaker 3: to and from the house. But I was I was
Speaker 3: trying to go buy her advice and take a you know,
Speaker 3: take a breath and pause, because everything I wanted to
Speaker 3: say was just childish.
Speaker 2: And you know, but I handled it, and I handled
Speaker 2: it in a timely fashion, and I knew I got
Speaker 2: the best thing.
Speaker 3: But then here's the kicker, though, she said. When I
Speaker 3: was walking out the door.
Speaker 2: She's like, well, after you already gave me otitude for it,
Speaker 2: because I was.
Speaker 3: Just like, why would you do that? Thank you? She goes, well,
Speaker 3: I would have done it faster and better than you. Anyway,
Speaker 3: as I'm walking out the door, and I was just
Speaker 3: like okay and just walked out.
Speaker 1: So he should thank you for you taking away an
Speaker 1: assignment you gave to him in the first place.
Speaker 2: Okay, So Mark, I understand. Explain again, the man's timeline
Speaker 2: is very skewed. Okay, So in those two minutes I
Speaker 2: was able to find the best product and order the
Speaker 2: best product. Now, that would have taken him two hours
Speaker 2: on the computer searching, and mind you, that day it
Speaker 2: would have to.
Speaker 1: Research it, Okay, because research implies a certain amount of effort.
Speaker 2: But then I realize sometimes with Michael, his timeline is
Speaker 2: very different than my timeline. And this is what Michael
Speaker 2: would have done too. Mind you, The only reason he
Speaker 2: brought it inside was because on his checklist it was
Speaker 2: like clean the leather chair. This would be Mike. In
Speaker 2: about three weeks when our moving truck comes, it still
Speaker 2: wouldn't have been cleaned, and he'd go, you know, let's
Speaker 2: just sell it. Let's just get rid of it. That's
Speaker 2: one hundred percent what you do because you just don't
Speaker 2: prioritize properly.
Speaker 3: What Okay, I'm sorry that cleaning this couch was on
Speaker 3: the top of our priority list of all the other
Speaker 3: things that we're doing right now.
Speaker 2: But a lot of times you'll just say get rid
Speaker 2: of it, like you were about to throw away a
Speaker 2: four hundred dollars dog bed because you don't want.
Speaker 3: To all over it.
Speaker 1: But you didn't.
Speaker 2: You take it to the damn dry cleaners, Mike, take
Speaker 2: it to the you know. But it's well that get
Speaker 2: taken to the oh.
Speaker 3: Out of spite. We had this conversation the other day.
Speaker 3: I said, yep, I'm going to laundry, Matt. I'm gonna
Speaker 3: sit there for two hours while everything washes and dryes.
Speaker 2: But in his mind he's like, just get rid of it,
Speaker 2: And in my mind, I'm like, no, we can fix it,
Speaker 2: we can wash it. In that moment, I wasn't being like,
Speaker 2: oh I need I have one more thing I got
Speaker 2: to put on my plate. That was just something where Okay,
Speaker 2: I found something better and it's the best thing and
Speaker 2: it arrives tomorrow.
Speaker 3: I can't tell you how much I'm hoping that it's
Speaker 3: completely wrong.
Speaker 2: What the leather thing I'm hoping leathery Amazon Open, number
Speaker 2: one best selling.
Speaker 3: So wrong?
Speaker 2: Four days after my surgery and ask you to do anything.
Speaker 3: My very intensive surgery.
Speaker 2: I oh it to talk about what happened.
Speaker 3: No, just couch, which caused me to get oh yeah,
Speaker 3: black and blue on my waveos and.
Speaker 2: Jolie kept going, is it heavy? Is it heavy?
Speaker 3: Daddy? I'm hearing this like giant love seat chair by
Speaker 3: myself on my back like a turtle and a shell,
Speaker 3: and Joey's just underneath my feet looking up at me.
Speaker 3: Is it heavy, heavy dad? Heavy?
Speaker 2: Mind you though? He's like, baby, I gotta take a
Speaker 2: thirty minute nap. Thirty minutes and I said, babe, goal,
Speaker 2: lay down. You did so much today and I didn't.
Speaker 2: You didn't even have to do any of that, Like
Speaker 2: I was being so nice.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because I was. I was productive. So there's nothing
Speaker 3: I could say.
Speaker 2: Well, because I love I love productive, mic I love it.
Speaker 2: It makes me so So he takes a nap and
Speaker 2: then you wake up and what do you see? I remember,
Speaker 2: Are you serious? The house?
Speaker 3: Yeah? I went to go take a nap. I couldn't
Speaker 3: really sleep because I heard furniture dragging and noises stranking
Speaker 3: right outside our bedroom. I come out our living rooms
Speaker 3: completely rearranged, I mean, couches and chairs on the opposite
Speaker 3: sides of the room play plays, toys are all on.
Speaker 3: Does it look looks amazing?
Speaker 2: So I did that in thirty minutes.
Speaker 3: Thirty minutes. That's a great one.
Speaker 1: I mean, I just that was you know, the dragon
Speaker 1: is a furniture out of the bedroom door, and his
Speaker 1: napping is fantastic.
Speaker 3: I got some vacuum in.
Speaker 2: The vacuum wasn't working at d.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I get this game.
Speaker 1: You ask him if anything's bothering him about you, which
Speaker 1: enables you to not only give him one of your own,
Speaker 1: it allows you to ridicule his thing and show him
Speaker 1: why he's wrong.
Speaker 3: So what is your thing?
Speaker 4: What?
Speaker 2: But hold on a second, I was gonna say.
Speaker 1: What's your thing?
Speaker 3: For him?
Speaker 1: Even though you kind of won that whole.
Speaker 3: I didn't win anything, You didn't win anything, but you
Speaker 3: kind of went there.
Speaker 2: You know, I did go offensive because oh my god,
Speaker 2: here come the comments jenn is so mean to Mike. No,
Speaker 2: we just play around a lot. But I just I
Speaker 2: think a lot of women justifying No. I think a
Speaker 2: lot of women. That's just again, their timelines are different
Speaker 2: than a man's timeline, and for us it's just easier
Speaker 2: to do it ourselves.
Speaker 3: Okay, then don't complain if you do it.
Speaker 2: I didn't complain one.
Speaker 3: I'm just saying in general, I gotta do everything.
Speaker 2: Well because we kind of do well.
Speaker 1: People go to yourself, what bothers you about Mike?
Speaker 3: Or was that it?
Speaker 2: I mean, that's one of the things. But I will say,
Speaker 2: you leave and see mine's a lot smaller. You went,
Speaker 2: real big issue. But I don't like the fact that
Speaker 2: you leave Jason's dirty diapers either in the like you
Speaker 2: left his wet, very wet, dirty diaper this morning in
Speaker 2: his crib, put in the trash.
Speaker 3: Okay, I forgot that one.
Speaker 2: No, but then you always left him in the pack
Speaker 2: and play so annoying.
Speaker 3: Okay, because you've never left, I've cleaned up, You've never.
Speaker 2: Do the same thing.
Speaker 3: You never leave diapers in there.
Speaker 2: Usually, Actually, I don't you know what else bothers me?
Speaker 2: Oh my god, this is not how the game we're
Speaker 2: trying to show our listeners how we have better conversation.
Speaker 3: We are, we're having great conversations. Jeez.
Speaker 2: So after but usually, by the way, how that happens
Speaker 2: is I'll say, like, hey, he's like, I don't like
Speaker 2: it when you put the steak knives in the dishwasher
Speaker 2: and I'd be like, oh, I'm sorry, babe, I'll make
Speaker 2: sure to hand wash them. And then I'll say I
Speaker 2: don't like how you leave your shoes right there now,
Speaker 2: and he just says, oh, I'm sorry, babe, I'll make
Speaker 2: I'll do better with that. That's usually how it goes.
Speaker 2: It doesn't go like this. We're showing a very terrible
Speaker 2: example of us both being very offensive.
Speaker 3: You got this ball rolling, we're going. So after Jay seats,
Speaker 3: he should stay a little inclined. He shouldn't lay flat
Speaker 3: on his back.
Speaker 2: So thirty minutes, thirty minutes, Okay, after I found him
Speaker 2: this morning, I had to take a big old Okay,
Speaker 2: so I needed to put him down, right, you can.
Speaker 3: Put him down in his rocker, that's inclined, okay.
Speaker 2: All right, that bothers you. Then I'm just going to
Speaker 2: make sure that well stop burping him and having his
Speaker 2: spit up go all over the couch.
Speaker 3: And we're getting rid of that carpet.
Speaker 2: See, we're getting rid of that.
Speaker 3: You like, act like you would bring that into the new.
Speaker 2: House if I got it nicely cleaned. Yes, Oh where
Speaker 2: would you put it in the living room?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 3: But wait, she wouldn't because our designers didn't say that
Speaker 3: that rug should go in the house, So if they
Speaker 3: didn't say it should, then it doesn't belong there. Oh boy,
Speaker 3: this is a fund.
Speaker 2: Can someone say, like, poor Janna this?
Speaker 3: How in what way?
Speaker 2: Okay?
Speaker 1: I think you canna ask me what bothers me about
Speaker 1: the two of you?
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh my god, I would love to hear that
Speaker 2: doing this, But I have nothing that bothers me about you.
Speaker 1: Oh well, thank you much.
Speaker 3: That's sweet.
Speaker 1: That's the one little thing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would love it.
Speaker 1: We do a podcast for an hour a week. If
Speaker 1: we get through that hour without you guys eating, that
Speaker 1: would be really pleasure. I really appreciate it.
Speaker 2: I know I was really hungry. Yeah, trust me, I know.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry I was. I was so hungry. I get
Speaker 2: so hungry.
Speaker 3: Can you can you hear it on them? Mike? I'm
Speaker 3: like you can. Yeah.
Speaker 1: It's a pet peeve of mine. Personally. I don't know
Speaker 1: if it's the listeners notice it. They may not pick
Speaker 1: up on it at all because we do something that
Speaker 1: is what yogurt like soft. Yeah, so maybe they wouldn't notice.
Speaker 1: But it's something that bothers me.
Speaker 2: We see, we appreciate, we appreciate that feedback all right.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, and we will respect that you guys are in
Speaker 3: here multiple hours a day as we're in here in
Speaker 3: your home for one hour once a week.
Speaker 2: Respect the workplace. I think that's going to wrap it up,
Speaker 2: all right, guys. That was a great show that was
Speaker 2: all over the place.
Speaker 4: Ye h.