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Speaker 1: Swine Down with Jana Kramer and I'm Heart Radio podcast.

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Speaker 2: Mike's back, yay, still alive, still man, and he has

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Speaker 2: a cake happy vasecta me cake in front of him

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Speaker 2: because apparently that's a thing. Now you get that vasect

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Speaker 2: to me, cake, You're the best tea. How do your

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Speaker 2: balls feel?

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Speaker 3: Bad? Happy? You know, a little tender? Yep, but doing good.

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Speaker 3: I'm physically wearing a jock strap right now, so true story.

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Speaker 2: I just put down Joey for bed and I walked

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Speaker 2: past our room and I see him in no joke,

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Speaker 2: a jock strap which just looks like a male thong,

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Speaker 2: and I was just like, what are around your butt?

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Speaker 2: I know, but it's still like so now you're like

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Speaker 2: butt cheeks are all. But I was like, what are

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Speaker 2: you wearing? And he's like, it's a jock strap And

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Speaker 2: I was like.

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Speaker 3: Youtub boys, nice and tight. You gotta keep him.

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Speaker 2: Are you going to continue to wear a jockstrap balls?

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Speaker 3: My buddies. I was like, hey, this is kind of nice,

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Speaker 3: Like everything stays out of the way up and out

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Speaker 3: of the way, high and tight and just you know,

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Speaker 3: then you just go about your business.

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Speaker 2: I mean that must be weird to have like staggy

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Speaker 2: stuff down there. Yeah, like when you're walking and stuff.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. Little empathy for the guys.

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Speaker 1: You don't understand what you deal with with bat wings?

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Speaker 2: What's up?

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Speaker 1: Mike doesn't get them? Now they're wearing a jockstrap?

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Speaker 2: Oh does it? Like the ball stick to your the side.

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Speaker 1: Of your to the thighs. And I hate it. That's

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Speaker 1: why I wear it fairly tight brief because of that

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Speaker 1: drives me nuts, and I still.

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Speaker 3: Deal with it.

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Speaker 2: Don't you use baby powder? Because I always see Mike

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Speaker 2: like or like a dozen.

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Speaker 1: A gallon of gold bond.

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Speaker 3: More of Johnson and Johnson's kind of guy.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I need a female in here because it's just

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Speaker 2: real male right now?

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Speaker 3: With all that, right after that Ladies episode last week,

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Speaker 3: you talk about all those dreamy guys and potential hot

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Speaker 3: nannies for women, Yeah, I was listening to podcasts. I

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Speaker 3: didn't get through all of it yet, but I was

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Speaker 3: listening to the part when Amy was talking about what

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Speaker 3: if Ryan Reynolds was, you know, your trainer or nanny

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Speaker 3: or whatever. And Jane's just like I I. I I

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Speaker 3: was like, yeah, hid it a little bit more?

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 2: I just couldn't you know, come up with the words

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Speaker 2: to properly say right, it's okay.

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Speaker 3: I would have said the same thing if someone said

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Speaker 3: one of those two guys was my trainer and nanny,

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Speaker 3: I'd be like, I I so we'd have the same reaction.

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Speaker 2: Oh man, speaking of all that stuff though, I'm just

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Speaker 2: going to wrap that part up. Michael was like, what

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Speaker 2: are you doing. I was like, I'm in like a

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Speaker 2: war right now with hot Nanny's all over the world,

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Speaker 2: the Hot Nanny's Unite, even our Nanny and Nashville was like,

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Speaker 2: is this something I need to be worried about? And

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Speaker 2: then one of my other brit Bretts, She's like, was

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Speaker 2: I ugly? I was like, oh my god, yeah, I

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Speaker 2: was like Britney.

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Speaker 4: No.

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Speaker 2: I was like, and I've literally had to text all

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Speaker 2: our past nannies and be like, you are beautiful. You

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Speaker 2: are beautiful. I think you're beautiful. So I mean, really

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Speaker 2: back for it. I mean a lot of times on

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Speaker 2: the show, I like to I like to start conversations

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Speaker 2: and that's an interesting conversation. And but also because you know,

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Speaker 2: what works for me might not work for everyone else.

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Speaker 2: But apparently I was a very I was offending a

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Speaker 2: lot of the hot nannies saying, you know, i'm women

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Speaker 2: in the workplace and they're getting It's just it was

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Speaker 2: just the whole I was just.

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Speaker 3: Very you know, and when you were bringing that to

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Speaker 3: me and let me know when you're texting so uh,

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Speaker 2: DM war And I'm not going to name her because

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Speaker 2: I think she just wants the attention.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, no, don't get that satisfaction. The thing is,

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Speaker 3: when you're telling me about it, I'm like, it's just

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Speaker 3: being professional, that's all it is. You wouldn't show up

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Speaker 3: to any other job interview or post a picture for

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Speaker 3: your resume, which you know, some resumes nowadays people might

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Speaker 3: put it like a picture You don't. You wouldn't post

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Speaker 2: But here's where she says, but so because I have

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Speaker 2: big boobs, Like that's just how you're discriminating women. I

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Speaker 2: was like, no, I'm actually not discriminating. Like you need

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Speaker 2: I mean not even a shirt off, because like your

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Speaker 2: boobs can show but if you're wearing a lace literally

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Speaker 2: nothing else, a barely tank top, Like, I just think

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Speaker 2: you need to dress for the part. It's not about

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Speaker 2: saying I don't think this woman's everything else. I don't know, Mark,

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Speaker 2: what do you think?

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Speaker 3: I agree?

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Speaker 1: Completely professional is the answer. You don't need to be

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Speaker 1: in an apron and a hair Just a professional look

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Speaker 1: is what we're looking for. That's all it is, because

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Speaker 1: otherwise you might have ulterior motives.

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Speaker 2: Right, But she was like, just because I have big

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Speaker 2: boobs doesn't mean that I want to blah blah blah,

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Speaker 2: and like my boobs might be flapping around because I

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Speaker 2: wear I'm like, that's fine. I'm just saying, like the

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Speaker 2: first interview and meeting, I just think that you should

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Speaker 2: dress more appropriately, right not, But.

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Speaker 3: Then big boobs are not There's still a way to

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Speaker 3: dress professionally. It doesn't matter.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but what if I mean you have to talk

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Speaker 1: with it. Let's say she dresses professionally and you hire her,

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Speaker 1: and then she shows up for work and after a

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Speaker 1: couple of weeks she gets more comfortable, and when she

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Speaker 1: starts showing up in a crop top and jeane shorts,

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Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, we.

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Speaker 3: Have to have a talk.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but I mean one of our nannies, Like she

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Speaker 2: hit her boobs out a lot, and again it's fine,

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Speaker 2: Like I was fine with it.

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Speaker 3: Ow I what you're talking about, I actually do. Who's

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Speaker 3: the actor in this family?

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Speaker 2: Thank you very much, But I don't care because she

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Speaker 2: loved your kids. You know, at the end of the day,

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Speaker 2: it's not about and she was beautiful, Like it's I

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Speaker 2: just was more trying to have a conversation about it.

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Speaker 2: And it's not that I don't trust my husband, and

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Speaker 2: it's not that I'm not for women's rights and letting

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Speaker 2: boobs hang out. It's fine, but whatever, I can still

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Speaker 2: have my opinion. It still spark a conversation. But really,

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Speaker 2: like the hot nannies USA, is real have an issue

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Speaker 2: and to the point where I was fearful that we're

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Speaker 2: going to lose the nanny we just hired in Nashville

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Speaker 2: because I didn't want her to think that we thought

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Speaker 2: she was ugly or because that's not the case. She's

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Speaker 2: she's beautiful, she's right for our family, and she's gonna

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Speaker 2: love our kids, and that's what matters at the end

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Speaker 2: of the day. Because here's what I was saying too

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Speaker 2: is at the end of the day, if my husband

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Speaker 2: or if I'm going to cheat, we're gonna cheat no

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Speaker 2: matter what someone looks like, end of the day, no

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Speaker 2: matter what they're wearing, no matter how they dress, no

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Speaker 2: matter what they look like. If you're gonna cheat, you're

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Speaker 2: gonna cheat.

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Speaker 1: We are joined now by Katie for Vinciana, the managing

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Speaker 1: director of Westside Nanny's.

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Speaker 2: Oh God, are you serious?

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Speaker 1: I am serious? Really yeah, Katie is her name?

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Speaker 2: Here I go, I don't know where to guess.

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Speaker 1: I think this is kind of the last minute.

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Speaker 2: Okay, hello, Hi, Hi, Hi Katie.

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Speaker 3: How are you good? How are you?

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Speaker 4: I'm great. I hear you're talking about hot nanny.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this is wrap it up, but I guess we'll start.

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Speaker 3: We're diving back in.

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Speaker 2: So you own a nanny agency. I do.

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Speaker 4: I own west Side Nannies. We're based in Los Angeles,

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Speaker 4: so we work with families primarily here in Los Angeles area,

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Speaker 4: but also across the country if needed.

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Speaker 2: So, I guess one of the main backlashes I had

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Speaker 2: was I was talking about because we were trying to

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Speaker 2: find a nanny and we used one of the website Nanny's.

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Speaker 2: Uh outlets and I had made a comment about how

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Speaker 2: they had like the perky boobs up and you know

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Speaker 2: that the wives are hiring, And I got major backlash

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Speaker 2: because people are like, well, women are like, you know,

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Speaker 2: I have boobs and I should be able to show

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Speaker 2: my boobs. And what my husband and I are saying

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Speaker 2: is we just think that for an interview, you should

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Speaker 2: be a little bit more professional.

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Speaker 4: Well, I would agree with you, and we see those

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Speaker 4: pictures too. You'd be amazed at what danny send in

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Speaker 4: when they're applying for a job. But I think for us,

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Speaker 4: it's not about whether someone has boobs or not. I mean,

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Speaker 4: we all do right right. It's about good judgment and

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Speaker 4: doff awareness and professionalism and how you're presenting yourself for

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Speaker 4: a job. And I think those things are two very

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Speaker 4: different things. So it's not that, oh, this nanny is hot,

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Speaker 4: you know, that's the turnoff. It's that, well, if she

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Speaker 4: chose to use the photo of herself to apply for

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Speaker 4: professional jobs, any job, whether it be a nanny job

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Speaker 4: or another, that shows a lack of good judgments, and

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Speaker 4: the judgment is really important when you're hiring nanny.

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Speaker 3: I agree.

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Speaker 2: Have you ever had any wives like say, you know

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Speaker 2: what's around that, like what if they are dressed in

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Speaker 2: appropriately do you talk to them? Or how does that work?

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Speaker 4: Well, we get requests, you know, every every single day

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Speaker 4: I mean, for every request that we have from a

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Speaker 4: around where a parent will say, hey, we need someone

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Speaker 4: or you know, we don't want an any whos overlate,

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Speaker 4: or we don't want this or that. We even had

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Speaker 4: a mom recently tell us that, you know, my three

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Speaker 4: year old seems to be more attracted to blonde, so

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Speaker 4: we's like a blonde manny. I mean, we hear it all.

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Speaker 3: Oh wow.

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Speaker 4: But our response to that, of course, is, you know,

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Speaker 4: those things shouldn't matter. First of all, there protect the characteristics.

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Speaker 4: We actually can't discriminate faced about when someone looks like

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Speaker 4: or the color of their skin or any of those things.

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Speaker 4: But it really comes down to someone of great nanny

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Speaker 4: and that comes down to experience, references, education of personality

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Speaker 4: and why they really want to work in this field.

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Speaker 3: So I have a question, Katie, and this you know

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Speaker 3: again I'm trying to I feel like maybe this, this

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Speaker 3: field like nanny, is a little bit more personal because

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Speaker 3: of the interaction and the relationship care children. Right, So

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Speaker 3: it's a little bit more personable, personal and connected. But still,

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Speaker 3: like for any job out there, you know, you've got

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Speaker 3: to address the part. You got to be professional. And

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Speaker 4: you just can't talk about everything that you would naturally,

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Speaker 4: Nanny's in La h you let us know you be

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Speaker 3: Good luck, Thank you.

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Speaker 2: But it's frustrating because and then everyone's like, why are

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Speaker 3: Well, it's just funny because you get some of these things,

437
00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:46,000
Speaker 3: some of the hot topics in society at the moment,

438
00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:48,680
Speaker 3: and some of it just seems so petty, and you're

439
00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:50,960
Speaker 3: just like, really, this is what we're talking about. And

440
00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:54,119
Speaker 3: having a platform like this, you know, I made the

441
00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:56,239
Speaker 3: joke to Janet. You realize you do want to talk

442
00:19:56,280 --> 00:19:58,080
Speaker 3: about things that are meaningful, and we want that for

443
00:19:58,160 --> 00:20:00,840
Speaker 3: our listeners because they can go about like we're about

444
00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:03,320
Speaker 3: to talk about Danny Amidola and Olivia Coppo for a minute,

445
00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:06,920
Speaker 3: that whole situation. So people, there's a million other places

446
00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:09,000
Speaker 3: people can go. They can read any tabloid magazine, they

447
00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:11,199
Speaker 3: can go along and see any article. Don't come here

448
00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:13,600
Speaker 3: to We don't want them to come here to listen

449
00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:15,720
Speaker 3: to that. We're gonna give our two cents and a minute.

450
00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:16,879
Speaker 2: Well, we're gonna talk about it right now.

451
00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:20,080
Speaker 3: So regardless, we're gonna talk about it right now because just.

452
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Speaker 2: In case, if you do want the hot topics. So

453
00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:24,960
Speaker 2: I don't really know. Apparently they broke up. He wrote

454
00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:29,480
Speaker 2: this long Instagram. You still have a cough by the

455
00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:36,480
Speaker 2: way allergies. Okay, it's long Instagram about her. Would you

456
00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:38,920
Speaker 2: like to preface some of this, baby?

457
00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:43,800
Speaker 3: I mean, look from my point of view, people who

458
00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:46,840
Speaker 3: have followed this know what he said on on Instagram.

459
00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:49,440
Speaker 2: And then the fact that he well he basically said.

460
00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:54,879
Speaker 3: Miscommunication, my ass. He he said what he said. He

461
00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:59,520
Speaker 3: was either drunk or just angry and typed away. And

462
00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:02,399
Speaker 3: here's the I don't understand. They've been on and off

463
00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:03,680
Speaker 3: for a couple of years or whatever it is. I

464
00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:07,840
Speaker 3: don't know their whole history, but Olivio Colpo has clearly

465
00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:12,160
Speaker 3: been a climber. She's dated you're going there, I am.

466
00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:15,200
Speaker 3: I look at her dating history. She's dated Tim Tebow,

467
00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:18,840
Speaker 3: She's dated Ryan Lochte, she dated Nick Jonas, she dated Danny,

468
00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:21,720
Speaker 3: she dated now she's talking to you know, Zed and

469
00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:23,920
Speaker 3: who else? I mean, the list goes on and on.

470
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Speaker 2: So are you saying she's famous for dating celebrities? What

471
00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:30,720
Speaker 2: else is that's her thing? I will say, just to

472
00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:34,320
Speaker 2: defend that point in his thing, Danny said that she

473
00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:37,800
Speaker 2: got upset that he wouldn't post a lot about her,

474
00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:42,879
Speaker 2: So clearly she wanted to be exactly with him, to

475
00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:46,280
Speaker 2: be like, oh, I'm you know with this football player, right,

476
00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:49,480
Speaker 2: which then makes sense to your point. But who knows

477
00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:51,159
Speaker 2: because we don't have her side of the story. But

478
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Speaker 2: I can see why you think that she's a social climber.

479
00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:58,840
Speaker 3: I mean her, how can she just she just happened

480
00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:00,000
Speaker 3: to date all these famous people.

481
00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:04,280
Speaker 2: Well, you run in those circles, right, And yes.

482
00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:06,800
Speaker 3: I understand that when you're in those circles, the people

483
00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:09,560
Speaker 3: they introduce you to is probably someone of celebrity as well.

484
00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:13,160
Speaker 2: But I mean, what is the fact that he said,

485
00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:16,200
Speaker 2: you know, she's she was always upset for me for

486
00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:21,200
Speaker 2: not posting about her on the page, which you know,

487
00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:24,320
Speaker 2: whether he's more private, that's fine, but clearly she doesn't

488
00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:26,159
Speaker 2: want the privacy. She wants to be more out there

489
00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:26,800
Speaker 2: in the celebrity.

490
00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:31,159
Speaker 3: But I will say any relationship, whether it's a public

491
00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:33,640
Speaker 3: one like this or even a private one of people

492
00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:39,080
Speaker 3: who aren't celebrities, there's some people that you know, are like, hey,

493
00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:41,720
Speaker 3: why aren't you posting about me? Why aren't you posting

494
00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:44,200
Speaker 3: a picture on Facebook or social media? So, regardless of

495
00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:48,000
Speaker 3: celebrity or not, I've experienced and seen people like that

496
00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:50,520
Speaker 3: where they want to be, you know, party of life

497
00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:52,240
Speaker 3: more and post more and all that.

498
00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:54,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, some people are more private, but let's spin it

499
00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:58,000
Speaker 2: because some people don't post because they probably want to

500
00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:00,840
Speaker 2: look available, oh for sure. So I know there's some

501
00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:03,560
Speaker 2: people that out there like, oh, well, he's a he's

502
00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:05,600
Speaker 2: an artist, and he doesn't need to post a photo

503
00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:09,439
Speaker 2: of me, And it's like, h guy, artists don't need

504
00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:12,080
Speaker 2: to have that persona that's so out the window it's

505
00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:16,119
Speaker 2: not even funny. Yeah, he's not just posting you because

506
00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:18,720
Speaker 2: of that. He wants to look available for not the

507
00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:23,040
Speaker 2: right reasons. If anything, No record label or or TV

508
00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:24,879
Speaker 2: show is not going to hire a guy because he

509
00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:26,000
Speaker 2: has a girlfriend or a wife.

510
00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:28,959
Speaker 3: If anything. I feel like nowadays people are becoming more

511
00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:33,359
Speaker 3: marketable because of a relationship they have. Yeah, except for

512
00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:37,040
Speaker 3: maybe some of these reality stars who can find themselves

513
00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:40,239
Speaker 3: in the public more frequently if they're dating somebody new,

514
00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:43,359
Speaker 3: like if they're she real daters. I eat Olivia Colpo,

515
00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:46,960
Speaker 3: But I mean it's just like who cares.

516
00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:49,040
Speaker 2: Honestly, I will say it's harder for women though, I

517
00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:51,000
Speaker 2: mean they there's so many times where I felt like

518
00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:54,360
Speaker 2: I had to look available because you know, someone might

519
00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:56,600
Speaker 2: not hire you, which is so screwed up. And I'm

520
00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:58,680
Speaker 2: glad it's changing. But I can see for the girl

521
00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:00,600
Speaker 2: how it can be hard. But for the guys, I'm like,

522
00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:01,920
Speaker 2: guys have it like so easy?

523
00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:03,680
Speaker 3: Why?

524
00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:07,080
Speaker 2: Because it's fine if you have a girlfriend or a wife.

525
00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:09,639
Speaker 2: I mean, look at all the country artists and celebrities.

526
00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:14,480
Speaker 2: They don't need to have that magnet. You're still you're

527
00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:16,960
Speaker 2: still an You're still like a magnet, even if you

528
00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:17,879
Speaker 2: have a relationship.

529
00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:24,200
Speaker 3: But so you're saying a girl, a female artist, isn't

530
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Speaker 3: as marketable for sure.

531
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Speaker 2: I had to hide in the very beginning. I had

532
00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:29,080
Speaker 2: to hide that I didn't have a boyfriend because I

533
00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:32,960
Speaker 2: was supposed to look more available. That was something that

534
00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:35,359
Speaker 2: was verbally told to me by my first manager.

535
00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:38,480
Speaker 3: What I don't understand about that is but.

536
00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:39,879
Speaker 2: A guy could have a relationship.

537
00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:46,159
Speaker 3: What I don't understand is country fans. I mean, what

538
00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:48,159
Speaker 3: I would love to know the ratio of female to

539
00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:55,160
Speaker 3: male primarily female. Yeah, right, so why would it matter.

540
00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:59,479
Speaker 2: It's just the old skew thinking, right, yeah, that's all

541
00:24:59,520 --> 00:24:59,720
Speaker 2: it is.

542
00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:03,440
Speaker 3: Well, that's done. Anyway, this whole, this whole situation, I

543
00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:04,639
Speaker 3: don't want to spend any more time on it.

544
00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:08,920
Speaker 2: It's let's take a break. Yeah, all right, So I

545
00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:12,960
Speaker 2: honestly loathe perfume shopping. I don't know, I just feel

546
00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:15,800
Speaker 2: like it's super overwhelming, and I don't want to commit

547
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Speaker 2: to a two hundred dollars bottle.

548
00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:21,320
Speaker 3: And I feel like anytime I've gotten you something I've missed.

549
00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:23,840
Speaker 2: Well, no, I like the one thing you got me,

550
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Speaker 2: but I don't know. With Sunbird, it's super easy because

551
00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:29,719
Speaker 2: you can basically, okay, I'll say this, there's more than

552
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Speaker 2: four hundred and fifty designer brands for you to choose

553
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Speaker 2: a perfumer clone from each month, So basically you can

554
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Speaker 2: do tom Ford, Gucci, Versaci and it's good for a month,

555
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Speaker 2: So you don't have to commit to the big bottle.

556
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Speaker 2: That's the thing. Like I might I've liked what you've

557
00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:44,960
Speaker 2: gotten me, but I just feel like I don't know

558
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Speaker 2: if I want to commit to like the juicy smell,

559
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Speaker 2: like the entire life.

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Speaker 4: Right.

561
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Speaker 3: But because it's because the Seth Bird, we can just

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564
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Speaker 3: hundred and twenty sprays in it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's so great, So I mean that's it's basically

566
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Speaker 2: like a month for me, it's enough to apply more

567
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577
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Speaker 2: Interesting topic. Did you know actually that the benefits of

578
00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:38,720
Speaker 2: your husband's gas can help you live longer? So the

579
00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:42,720
Speaker 2: study found that was stinky byproduct most wives hate, could

580
00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:45,680
Speaker 2: actually reduce the risk of cancer, heart attacks, strokes, arthritis,

581
00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:49,119
Speaker 2: and dementia. According to other research, marriage is an important

582
00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:51,560
Speaker 2: factor affecting the survival of heart attack patients too, which

583
00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:55,960
Speaker 2: means even if you're already suffered health issues, his finest

584
00:26:56,000 --> 00:27:00,480
Speaker 2: farts could actually keep you alive. Kicking and sharp, I mean,

585
00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:04,120
Speaker 2: that is the silliest thing I've ever read.

586
00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:09,119
Speaker 3: Society, We're just reaching man, Society. Society is just reaching

587
00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:10,160
Speaker 3: to find anything.

588
00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:15,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, to to your fart will give me a longer life.

589
00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:17,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's gonna be. Yeah, you're welcome. I'm gonna start

590
00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:20,080
Speaker 3: saying you're welcome instead of excuse me and say honey,

591
00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:21,399
Speaker 3: you're welcome every time, every time.

592
00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:24,240
Speaker 2: Every time you fart. Now you're welcome. Here's a longer life.

593
00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:26,680
Speaker 3: Let me put out the article that proves I'm saving

594
00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:27,320
Speaker 3: your life right here.

595
00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:30,320
Speaker 1: We're a lot of emails today.

596
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:31,359
Speaker 2: Oh, will you read some?

597
00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:32,080
Speaker 3: I'd love to.

598
00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:35,160
Speaker 1: Victoria has a question about your tattoos, Mike. She says,

599
00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:37,440
Speaker 1: I love listening to your podcast and following Janna on

600
00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:39,920
Speaker 1: social media and through Jenna's videos on Instagram. I have

601
00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:43,000
Speaker 1: seen the slow progression of Mike's tattoos. Is there a

602
00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:45,359
Speaker 1: story or a reason and Mike's decision to pick some

603
00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:48,159
Speaker 1: of the tattoos he did? Is there a significance in

604
00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:51,560
Speaker 1: getting them? In this time of Mike's self reflection? Thank

605
00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:53,480
Speaker 1: you all so much for all you guys do and

606
00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:54,040
Speaker 1: talk about.

607
00:27:55,480 --> 00:28:00,640
Speaker 3: Nope, I just like them. No, I'm just kidding, No, Victoria, Yeah,

608
00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:05,600
Speaker 3: there is significance to everything. It's a word, it's a sleeve,

609
00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:10,080
Speaker 3: in in in progress, the process, it's gonna be a

610
00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:15,639
Speaker 3: full sleeve. And everything I have is meaningful, you know.

611
00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:19,200
Speaker 3: And then people have seen I have both kids handprints

612
00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:22,560
Speaker 3: on my forearm with clocks.

613
00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:27,320
Speaker 2: In the time that they're born, which the tattoo artists

614
00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:28,000
Speaker 2: screwed it up.

615
00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:30,480
Speaker 3: Oh no, he put the wrong time, but the wrong

616
00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:34,520
Speaker 3: time you put because he kind of do the clock

617
00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:36,959
Speaker 3: like sideways that you put four oh six as opposed

618
00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:37,520
Speaker 3: to four oh one.

619
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:39,920
Speaker 1: Yeah. Oh, she's only off by a few minutes.

620
00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:43,880
Speaker 2: It was still it's not the actual date or the

621
00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:45,280
Speaker 2: time that our daughter was born.

622
00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:47,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's why I go to a new artist now.

623
00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:50,760
Speaker 2: So and then he also has a face, but it's

624
00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:53,400
Speaker 2: all about like everything means something. So the trees mean

625
00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:54,400
Speaker 2: what trees.

626
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:57,800
Speaker 3: Are like forthrightness, honesty, you know, which is how I'm

627
00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:00,400
Speaker 3: trying to live my life nowadays, and everything. And then

628
00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:04,120
Speaker 3: the roses is symbol for new beginnings, which as you

629
00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:07,600
Speaker 3: guys know, Jane and I are having. And then I

630
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:09,960
Speaker 3: have Jana's beautiful face on my shoulder, but right.

631
00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:11,480
Speaker 2: Now I look like a sixty year old man because

632
00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:15,960
Speaker 2: it's not finished. So there's that. And then he's you know,

633
00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:18,040
Speaker 2: got kind of hairy arms, so I'll look at my

634
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:20,520
Speaker 2: face and I'll be like, I have a hair growing

635
00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:23,320
Speaker 2: out of my chin. I have to pull my hair

636
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:25,080
Speaker 2: chins anyways, but now I have to pull my hair

637
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:26,479
Speaker 2: chins off my face on your arm.

638
00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:28,560
Speaker 3: Every time I take my shirt off. Jana's like, can

639
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:31,160
Speaker 3: you please, next session, work on my face? Yeah, and

640
00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:32,720
Speaker 3: get that done because I want to look more pretty.

641
00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:34,480
Speaker 3: We see that because I'm curious or is it not?

642
00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:35,840
Speaker 3: You don't want to show it till it's done.

643
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:38,240
Speaker 2: I look like a six year old woman on his arm.

644
00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:41,920
Speaker 3: He doesn't look that bad. It does. Let's see here

645
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:42,120
Speaker 3: we go.

646
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:44,800
Speaker 2: It's coming off. The shirt is coming off a.

647
00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:45,720
Speaker 1: Long sleeve.

648
00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:47,840
Speaker 2: Instagram story.

649
00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:50,440
Speaker 1: He has a sleeveless T shirt on under it, so

650
00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:55,400
Speaker 1: it'll be oh wow, oh wow. I think it's lovely.

651
00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:58,240
Speaker 1: So they're gonna add color to it or what are

652
00:29:58,280 --> 00:29:59,120
Speaker 1: they gonna have no color?

653
00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:00,560
Speaker 3: But he's got a shade it to make it look

654
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:03,840
Speaker 3: more vibrant and make it pop and just don't so

655
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:05,000
Speaker 3: it doesn't look so aged.

656
00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:06,760
Speaker 1: And what is she doing in that picture because it

657
00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:07,720
Speaker 1: looks like her eyes are closed.

658
00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:11,360
Speaker 2: I'm praying, well.

659
00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:13,640
Speaker 1: I thought maybe you were like singing into a microphone.

660
00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:15,920
Speaker 1: From the original picture. They took it from no.

661
00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:18,520
Speaker 2: That I don't know why why they closed my ass.

662
00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:20,520
Speaker 3: Because I had it was kind of a mix between

663
00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:24,400
Speaker 3: this inspirational picture that I have that's not Jana and

664
00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:26,600
Speaker 3: then of a tattoo and then a picture of Jana.

665
00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:28,880
Speaker 3: So we're kind of marrying the two together.

666
00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:32,800
Speaker 2: But his tattoo artist he ended up changing because he

667
00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:34,960
Speaker 2: didn't like the tattoo artists guy. So now we have

668
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:35,840
Speaker 2: a new one and.

669
00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:39,400
Speaker 1: That's more expensive, and the new one has to finish

670
00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:41,280
Speaker 1: the old one's work. Is that a weird conflict in

671
00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:41,960
Speaker 1: the tattoo world.

672
00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:45,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh definitely. I mean when I went into this shop,

673
00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:48,480
Speaker 3: which is a well known shop in Los Angeles, I

674
00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:50,440
Speaker 3: mean the guys I talked to first were like, are

675
00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:52,920
Speaker 3: you willing to get any of that lasered off? And

676
00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:56,640
Speaker 3: I looked into it and that would have been like

677
00:30:57,080 --> 00:31:00,360
Speaker 3: thirty five hundred dollars to four grand and like two

678
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:04,800
Speaker 3: and a half years. So I'm like, I'm good too. So,

679
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:07,200
Speaker 3: I mean, because the work's not bad, it's just not

680
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:11,480
Speaker 3: as creative as I had hoped on something and to

681
00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:15,880
Speaker 3: give them a clean, you know, canvas canvas. But this

682
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:17,600
Speaker 3: guy has been great that I'm working with and.

683
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:19,760
Speaker 1: Is it bang Bang? I hear good things about Bang Bang.

684
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:22,160
Speaker 3: It's not Bang Bang okay, But this guy's great that

685
00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:24,120
Speaker 3: I'm working with, and he's been willing to kind of

686
00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:26,280
Speaker 3: take what I already have and make it better.

687
00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:28,840
Speaker 2: Hey, do you want to read the email from Ashley?

688
00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:32,640
Speaker 1: I do actually love this. It's interesting. Ashley says, I

689
00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:35,600
Speaker 1: just recently ended my four year relationship and engagement with

690
00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:37,880
Speaker 1: my partner because he has a sex and porn addict.

691
00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:41,080
Speaker 1: It's been almost two months, and I find myself doubting

692
00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:42,840
Speaker 1: my decision a lot. He did tell me in the

693
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:44,800
Speaker 1: beginning that he was an addict, and he was in counseling.

694
00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:46,720
Speaker 1: At the time. I was pretty naive to what a

695
00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:49,000
Speaker 1: sex addict was and honestly never thought he would do

696
00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:51,280
Speaker 1: anything to hurt me. But over the four years, he

697
00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:54,560
Speaker 1: stepped out of our relationship twice, received inappropriate photos, had

698
00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:59,240
Speaker 1: inappropriate conversations, and was consistently active watching porn. Through this time,

699
00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:01,040
Speaker 1: he would be in and out of counseling in groups.

700
00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:03,520
Speaker 1: The most recent boundary he crossed was messaging a girl

701
00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:07,080
Speaker 1: he frequently sees the gym and complimenting her inappropriately on

702
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:10,080
Speaker 1: her body. I was tired of putting myself back together.

703
00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:12,120
Speaker 1: I called off our wedding which is only which was

704
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:14,600
Speaker 1: only a few months away, and moved to another state.

705
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:17,680
Speaker 1: But lately I find myself doubting my decision. How do

706
00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:20,120
Speaker 1: you feel confident in knowing that something you can do.

707
00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:26,400
Speaker 2: That sucks. I think doubting yourself is the worst thing.

708
00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:27,360
Speaker 4: But I.

709
00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:35,760
Speaker 2: If you can say that you've tried everything, then I

710
00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:38,520
Speaker 2: think that's easier to not doubt yourself. So I knew

711
00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:41,320
Speaker 2: that I would always doubt myself to be like, would

712
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:46,400
Speaker 2: Mike have changed? And I would never have known that

713
00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:48,680
Speaker 2: if I didn't try now again, if Mike knows that,

714
00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:52,360
Speaker 2: if he steps out, or you know, we're done because

715
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:58,000
Speaker 2: there's so much I can personally take physically personally, like I,

716
00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:00,800
Speaker 2: there's only so much like we can handle. And so

717
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:02,920
Speaker 2: if it continues to happen, even though I know that

718
00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:07,160
Speaker 2: Michael is an addict and there's that possibility, he has

719
00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:10,280
Speaker 2: to do his work of staying in recovery and staying

720
00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:14,880
Speaker 2: in his boundaries in his work. So if it would

721
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:19,719
Speaker 2: happen me leaving, I could rest knowing that I did

722
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:24,280
Speaker 2: everything I could possibly do. So you might be having

723
00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:27,640
Speaker 2: that doubt because maybe somewhere inside you, you don't think

724
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:32,600
Speaker 2: that you maybe fought as hard as you should have.

725
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:36,000
Speaker 2: So maybe that's where the doubt is coming from, because

726
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:38,560
Speaker 2: I would have had that same doubt if I divorced

727
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:40,520
Speaker 2: Mike when I found out about everything, I would have

728
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:42,200
Speaker 2: had that doubt, being like I wonder if he could

729
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:44,120
Speaker 2: have changed, I wonder if we could have made it work,

730
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:46,280
Speaker 2: if he did the work.

731
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:49,960
Speaker 3: I think it's hard for people in general to think

732
00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:54,520
Speaker 3: back on something and really be confident knowing that they

733
00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:56,600
Speaker 3: gave it everything they have. I feel like it's easy

734
00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:59,600
Speaker 3: for people to justify it, well, maybe I could have

735
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:00,480
Speaker 3: done a bit more.

736
00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:03,160
Speaker 2: I don't I disagree with you, because if you do

737
00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:06,560
Speaker 2: something right now, I would divorce you and then been

738
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:07,400
Speaker 2: like I did.

739
00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:11,040
Speaker 3: Everything and saying you don't. I'm just saying I feel

740
00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:15,120
Speaker 3: like some people, it's easy, especially in the aftermath, like

741
00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:17,120
Speaker 3: after some time has passed, like you made the decision,

742
00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:21,719
Speaker 3: you're lonely and you're contemplating that right and you're just

743
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:25,000
Speaker 3: kind of like, well, did I did I really do everything?

744
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:26,000
Speaker 4: You know?

745
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:28,879
Speaker 3: And I mean I know I do that in my life,

746
00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:32,319
Speaker 3: whether my football career or other things. I'm like, did

747
00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:34,360
Speaker 3: I work as hard as I could, and then I

748
00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:37,080
Speaker 3: try to remind myself. Yeah, yeah, I did, you know,

749
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:39,400
Speaker 3: but it's still hard, especially with something that was so

750
00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:41,920
Speaker 3: meaningful for you, whether it's a relationship, whether it's a job,

751
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:45,239
Speaker 3: no matter what it is. I mean, you know, she

752
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:48,480
Speaker 3: says that at the beginning of the relationship, he disclosed

753
00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:49,440
Speaker 3: to her that he wasn't at it.

754
00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:50,040
Speaker 4: Yeah.

755
00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:55,320
Speaker 3: Now it's four years ago. So you know, the biggest

756
00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:58,080
Speaker 3: reason we've been able to reconcile and continue to make

757
00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:01,200
Speaker 3: this work is because you've seen change we both have

758
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:05,920
Speaker 3: in ourselves and in one another and in on a relationship.

759
00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:10,360
Speaker 3: So after four years, if she's not seeing that change

760
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:14,440
Speaker 3: and he's still doing things like that, he's clearly not

761
00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:17,120
Speaker 3: doing the work right, whether he's in groups or going

762
00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:19,520
Speaker 3: to meetings. If he's still doing that, he's not really

763
00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:23,359
Speaker 3: in recovery. So, I mean, I think that answers her question,

764
00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:24,719
Speaker 3: you know.

765
00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:28,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, and hopefully you can rest in that knowing, because

766
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:31,280
Speaker 2: if he's not doing the work and staying in active recovery,

767
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:33,720
Speaker 2: then that's going to be impossible for you to continue

768
00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:37,239
Speaker 2: on in a healthy relationship together. Yeah, so you can

769
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:39,359
Speaker 2: just be like, all right, like he couldn't do the work,

770
00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:42,680
Speaker 2: and you tried. Yeah, that's that's my two sents.

771
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:43,799
Speaker 3: I agree, clearly, it was.

772
00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:46,439
Speaker 1: Not a spur of the moment decision four years yeah,

773
00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 1: right right, it's not four years.

774
00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:51,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, And good on you for making that hard decision,

775
00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:53,680
Speaker 3: you know, a few months before the wedding.

776
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:55,719
Speaker 1: And you're the point you brought up, I think is

777
00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:59,920
Speaker 1: the key point of this is, don't confuse doubts with loneliness.

778
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:01,880
Speaker 1: Because if you move to another state, you're spending a

779
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:04,680
Speaker 1: lot of time by yourself, I assume, and so you're

780
00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:08,320
Speaker 1: missing him and that's normal. That doesn't mean that you made.

781
00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:11,200
Speaker 2: A mistake here exactly. And also the second that you

782
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:12,600
Speaker 2: do find someone else, you're going to.

783
00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:14,640
Speaker 1: Be like, oh wow, okay, oh yeah, I never realized

784
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:15,239
Speaker 1: it could be like that.

785
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:16,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah yeah.

786
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:20,800
Speaker 1: Kristen's email is interesting as well. I've never heard this

787
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:25,120
Speaker 1: issue before. I can honestly state I'm really struggling in

788
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:27,960
Speaker 1: my marriage right now. My husband's sister has this weird

789
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:30,960
Speaker 1: obsession with him, and she's constantly needing his help for

790
00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:34,120
Speaker 1: anything and everything. She's extremely clingy to him, and from

791
00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:36,800
Speaker 1: the outside looking in, she actually she's his wife. The

792
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:39,640
Speaker 1: last straw was when she went and had a boudoir

793
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:43,600
Speaker 1: photo shoot and sent him her own brother the pictures,

794
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:47,239
Speaker 1: asking him what he thought. He agrees that wasn't right,

795
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:49,160
Speaker 1: but he won't tell her that. She's too clinging and

796
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:51,160
Speaker 1: obsessive with him. I don't know where to go from here.

797
00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:53,240
Speaker 1: I've tried to talk to him about it, but nothing

798
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:56,320
Speaker 1: ever comes of it. Please help, Oh my goodness, I

799
00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:57,319
Speaker 1: want to know where they're from.

800
00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:01,960
Speaker 3: She can. Can someone explain to me exactly a boudoir

801
00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:02,760
Speaker 3: third shoot?

802
00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:07,840
Speaker 2: I think it's a lingerie shoo basically, Yes, it's a

803
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:11,760
Speaker 2: lingerie shoe, but it's you typically done for your partner,

804
00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:12,640
Speaker 2: right it's done.

805
00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:15,600
Speaker 1: Maybe you're engaged, maybe you're about to have a baby.

806
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:18,520
Speaker 1: Maybe you want you're thinking of having a baby, so

807
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:21,080
Speaker 1: you want to kind of preserve things. It's something for

808
00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:23,240
Speaker 1: your I think it's usually a gift for your partner,

809
00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:26,440
Speaker 1: got it. It's not, although Tanya was considering doing it

810
00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:27,400
Speaker 1: just for herself.

811
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:30,960
Speaker 3: I know what I'm getting Janna for Mother's Day. Translates

812
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:36,279
Speaker 3: to women's private dressing room Francis, So, what's the meal version?

813
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:37,799
Speaker 4: Locker room?

814
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:42,000
Speaker 1: So she took lingerie photos of herself? I don't think

815
00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:45,720
Speaker 1: they're too revealing. I don't think they're typically nude photos.

816
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:48,680
Speaker 2: No, they're just like real, like stringyie.

817
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:49,799
Speaker 1: And she sends it to her own brother.

818
00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:50,600
Speaker 3: What are you saying?

819
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:50,920
Speaker 1: Never?

820
00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:54,120
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, I love my brother, but I would

821
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:54,880
Speaker 2: never send him.

822
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:55,879
Speaker 1: Would throw up in my mouth.

823
00:37:56,239 --> 00:38:00,880
Speaker 2: I mean, if Tara sent you lingerie, not because she's

824
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:05,960
Speaker 2: not beautiful, sisters gorgeous, but yeah, no, no, no, I

825
00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:07,440
Speaker 2: can't even I don't even know how to answer this

826
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:09,960
Speaker 2: because I can't relate to it. I think that's no,

827
00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:13,560
Speaker 2: she's right, it's wrong. Well, and he thinks it's wrong too, right.

828
00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:16,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, so he needs to tell her stop weirdo.

829
00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:18,320
Speaker 1: He's not doing it. She keeps bringing it up, but

830
00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:19,239
Speaker 1: nothing ever comes of it.

831
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:21,360
Speaker 3: That's just weird.

832
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:24,160
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, do you think like maybe they have

833
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:24,960
Speaker 2: feelings for each other?

834
00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:27,960
Speaker 3: Stop? I mean, this isn't Game of Thrones?

835
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:34,879
Speaker 2: Is that happening in Game Thrones? I don't watch Game

836
00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:38,279
Speaker 2: of Thrones, but I mean you never know. I mean

837
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:43,000
Speaker 2: there's if I sent lingerie photos to my brother Steve,

838
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:45,400
Speaker 2: he would be like, what the f is wrong with you?

839
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:50,799
Speaker 2: That's disgusting? Right, So, but because he's not saying anything

840
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:52,440
Speaker 2: maybe he's not the haunts for his sister.

841
00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:56,320
Speaker 1: Should Kristen go directly to the sister and have a

842
00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:58,279
Speaker 1: talk with her or does that just blow it all up.

843
00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:02,400
Speaker 2: If he If her husband can't, then I would, she

844
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:02,759
Speaker 2: said to.

845
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:04,719
Speaker 1: Her husband, I need you to address this, and if

846
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:05,719
Speaker 1: you don't, I will.

847
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:10,880
Speaker 2: Yes, great advice, come to Mike and Jan and Mark, Mike,

848
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:13,520
Speaker 2: Jan and Mark and we'll give you and then easton

849
00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:16,640
Speaker 2: for any Uh what was that called? What you just did?

850
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:25,759
Speaker 2: Translation tips? Oh my goodness, let's take a break. Oh,

851
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:29,080
Speaker 2: I have a fun game we can play. Okay, So

852
00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:30,839
Speaker 2: Mike and I like to do this thing. I don't

853
00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:34,239
Speaker 2: know if it's actually a smart thing to do, but

854
00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:39,320
Speaker 2: we've been able to kind of talk about our issues

855
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:41,880
Speaker 2: in a funny way. Again, don't listen to us. This

856
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:44,319
Speaker 2: might not work. This might not be Yeah, this might

857
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:46,440
Speaker 2: not be therapeutic. But sometimes what I'll say to him,

858
00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:50,359
Speaker 2: if there's something bothering me, I'll say, tell me one

859
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:54,960
Speaker 2: thing that I'm doing that bothers you. So then I

860
00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:57,879
Speaker 2: can then tell him the one thing that has been

861
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:02,759
Speaker 2: bothering me. So so it's just a good way to

862
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:09,920
Speaker 2: not be passive in you know, in conversation, but also

863
00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:13,719
Speaker 2: learn something that maybe I might be doing that's annoying him.

864
00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:16,040
Speaker 2: So let's play the game right now, Darling. Is there

865
00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:18,520
Speaker 2: anything that I'm doing that is bothering you lately?

866
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:21,239
Speaker 3: Yeah?

867
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:21,719
Speaker 2: Oh?

868
00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:24,320
Speaker 3: What what you did yesterday?

869
00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:24,880
Speaker 4: What I do?

870
00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:25,600
Speaker 3: Oh?

871
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:26,000
Speaker 2: Yeah?

872
00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:29,400
Speaker 3: So so Jana goes, we we had we brought this

873
00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:34,200
Speaker 3: leather couch from our garage into the house because we

874
00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:35,759
Speaker 3: wanted to clean it, and then like we need to

875
00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:38,239
Speaker 3: refinish it and everything because we want to move back

876
00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:38,760
Speaker 3: to Nashville.

877
00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:44,080
Speaker 2: We want to where we are we are okay, and so.

878
00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:47,240
Speaker 3: Basically we need some some you know, stuff to refinish

879
00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:49,560
Speaker 3: the couch, and we get the wrong stuff. So Jana's like,

880
00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:51,520
Speaker 3: all right, well do you mind researching so you can

881
00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:52,920
Speaker 3: find like what you want to use. I was like, yeah,

882
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:56,359
Speaker 3: I'll I'll research it. I'll research it. And then she's

883
00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:58,600
Speaker 3: as she says that, she's like look on her phone.

884
00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:01,480
Speaker 3: She's like, well, here's one. She's like, actually, you just

885
00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:03,480
Speaker 3: researched it. I'm like, yeah, I told you, I'll research it.

886
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:06,560
Speaker 3: Two minutes later she's like, you know what, I'm just

887
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:09,000
Speaker 3: gonna get this one. It says it's the best on Amazon,

888
00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:12,440
Speaker 3: like I'm just gonna get it, and I'm just like, okay,

889
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:15,680
Speaker 3: I'm like, what what Why did you tell me to

890
00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:17,480
Speaker 3: research it? And I told you I'll take care of

891
00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:18,919
Speaker 3: it when you're just gonna do it right.

892
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:23,359
Speaker 2: Now, because I well, first of fault, Oh, I'm sorry

893
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:24,000
Speaker 2: that that bothers you.

894
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:28,839
Speaker 3: Then then her text message, as I'm leaving her house

895
00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:31,400
Speaker 3: to run an air with Jolie Danna goes, all you

896
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:32,239
Speaker 3: had to say was thank you.

897
00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:35,359
Speaker 2: I'm just like, all you have to do is say

898
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:35,600
Speaker 2: thank you.

899
00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:37,360
Speaker 3: I can't tell you how many times I picked up

900
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:39,640
Speaker 3: my phone and put it back down on my way

901
00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:41,719
Speaker 3: to and from the house. But I was I was

902
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:44,480
Speaker 3: trying to go buy her advice and take a you know,

903
00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:46,640
Speaker 3: take a breath and pause, because everything I wanted to

904
00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:48,920
Speaker 3: say was just childish.

905
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:53,760
Speaker 2: And you know, but I handled it, and I handled

906
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:55,920
Speaker 2: it in a timely fashion, and I knew I got

907
00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:56,440
Speaker 2: the best thing.

908
00:41:56,640 --> 00:42:00,440
Speaker 3: But then here's the kicker, though, she said. When I

909
00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:01,360
Speaker 3: was walking out the door.

910
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:03,239
Speaker 2: She's like, well, after you already gave me otitude for it,

911
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:03,840
Speaker 2: because I was.

912
00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:08,480
Speaker 3: Just like, why would you do that? Thank you? She goes, well,

913
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:10,680
Speaker 3: I would have done it faster and better than you. Anyway,

914
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:14,840
Speaker 3: as I'm walking out the door, and I was just

915
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:18,040
Speaker 3: like okay and just walked out.

916
00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:21,840
Speaker 1: So he should thank you for you taking away an

917
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:23,759
Speaker 1: assignment you gave to him in the first place.

918
00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:29,960
Speaker 2: Okay, So Mark, I understand. Explain again, the man's timeline

919
00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:34,920
Speaker 2: is very skewed. Okay, So in those two minutes I

920
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:39,120
Speaker 2: was able to find the best product and order the

921
00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:42,720
Speaker 2: best product. Now, that would have taken him two hours

922
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:47,640
Speaker 2: on the computer searching, and mind you, that day it

923
00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:48,520
Speaker 2: would have to.

924
00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:53,680
Speaker 1: Research it, Okay, because research implies a certain amount of effort.

925
00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:57,400
Speaker 2: But then I realize sometimes with Michael, his timeline is

926
00:42:57,480 --> 00:42:59,960
Speaker 2: very different than my timeline. And this is what Michael

927
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:02,160
Speaker 2: would have done too. Mind you, The only reason he

928
00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:05,719
Speaker 2: brought it inside was because on his checklist it was

929
00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:09,400
Speaker 2: like clean the leather chair. This would be Mike. In

930
00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:11,520
Speaker 2: about three weeks when our moving truck comes, it still

931
00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:13,799
Speaker 2: wouldn't have been cleaned, and he'd go, you know, let's

932
00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:16,319
Speaker 2: just sell it. Let's just get rid of it. That's

933
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:20,600
Speaker 2: one hundred percent what you do because you just don't

934
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:22,120
Speaker 2: prioritize properly.

935
00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:25,360
Speaker 3: What Okay, I'm sorry that cleaning this couch was on

936
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:27,640
Speaker 3: the top of our priority list of all the other

937
00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:28,680
Speaker 3: things that we're doing right now.

938
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:30,239
Speaker 2: But a lot of times you'll just say get rid

939
00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:31,880
Speaker 2: of it, like you were about to throw away a

940
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:35,280
Speaker 2: four hundred dollars dog bed because you don't want.

941
00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:35,800
Speaker 3: To all over it.

942
00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:36,399
Speaker 1: But you didn't.

943
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:39,879
Speaker 2: You take it to the damn dry cleaners, Mike, take

944
00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:42,719
Speaker 2: it to the you know. But it's well that get

945
00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:44,080
Speaker 2: taken to the oh.

946
00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:46,440
Speaker 3: Out of spite. We had this conversation the other day.

947
00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:49,479
Speaker 3: I said, yep, I'm going to laundry, Matt. I'm gonna

948
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:51,359
Speaker 3: sit there for two hours while everything washes and dryes.

949
00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:52,840
Speaker 2: But in his mind he's like, just get rid of it,

950
00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:55,480
Speaker 2: And in my mind, I'm like, no, we can fix it,

951
00:43:56,360 --> 00:44:00,120
Speaker 2: we can wash it. In that moment, I wasn't being like,

952
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:01,400
Speaker 2: oh I need I have one more thing I got

953
00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:04,400
Speaker 2: to put on my plate. That was just something where Okay,

954
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:08,040
Speaker 2: I found something better and it's the best thing and

955
00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:09,280
Speaker 2: it arrives tomorrow.

956
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:12,440
Speaker 3: I can't tell you how much I'm hoping that it's

957
00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:13,120
Speaker 3: completely wrong.

958
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:17,279
Speaker 2: What the leather thing I'm hoping leathery Amazon Open, number

959
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:18,160
Speaker 2: one best selling.

960
00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:19,399
Speaker 3: So wrong?

961
00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:22,759
Speaker 2: Four days after my surgery and ask you to do anything.

962
00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:24,040
Speaker 3: My very intensive surgery.

963
00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:26,480
Speaker 2: I oh it to talk about what happened.

964
00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:30,120
Speaker 3: No, just couch, which caused me to get oh yeah,

965
00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:32,719
Speaker 3: black and blue on my waveos and.

966
00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:35,120
Speaker 2: Jolie kept going, is it heavy? Is it heavy?

967
00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:38,080
Speaker 3: Daddy? I'm hearing this like giant love seat chair by

968
00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:39,919
Speaker 3: myself on my back like a turtle and a shell,

969
00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:42,160
Speaker 3: and Joey's just underneath my feet looking up at me.

970
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:43,920
Speaker 3: Is it heavy, heavy dad? Heavy?

971
00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:46,040
Speaker 2: Mind you though? He's like, baby, I gotta take a

972
00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:48,400
Speaker 2: thirty minute nap. Thirty minutes and I said, babe, goal,

973
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:50,200
Speaker 2: lay down. You did so much today and I didn't.

974
00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:51,440
Speaker 2: You didn't even have to do any of that, Like

975
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:52,560
Speaker 2: I was being so nice.

976
00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:55,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, because I was. I was productive. So there's nothing

977
00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:55,919
Speaker 3: I could say.

978
00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:59,040
Speaker 2: Well, because I love I love productive, mic I love it.

979
00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:02,239
Speaker 2: It makes me so So he takes a nap and

980
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:07,400
Speaker 2: then you wake up and what do you see? I remember,

981
00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:08,840
Speaker 2: Are you serious? The house?

982
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:13,920
Speaker 3: Yeah? I went to go take a nap. I couldn't

983
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:17,040
Speaker 3: really sleep because I heard furniture dragging and noises stranking

984
00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:20,719
Speaker 3: right outside our bedroom. I come out our living rooms

985
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:25,040
Speaker 3: completely rearranged, I mean, couches and chairs on the opposite

986
00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:27,400
Speaker 3: sides of the room play plays, toys are all on.

987
00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:29,200
Speaker 3: Does it look looks amazing?

988
00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:30,360
Speaker 2: So I did that in thirty minutes.

989
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:34,200
Speaker 3: Thirty minutes. That's a great one.

990
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:37,960
Speaker 1: I mean, I just that was you know, the dragon

991
00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:39,400
Speaker 1: is a furniture out of the bedroom door, and his

992
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:40,640
Speaker 1: napping is fantastic.

993
00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:44,560
Speaker 3: I got some vacuum in.

994
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:47,640
Speaker 2: The vacuum wasn't working at d.

995
00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:50,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I get this game.

996
00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:54,279
Speaker 1: You ask him if anything's bothering him about you, which

997
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:57,560
Speaker 1: enables you to not only give him one of your own,

998
00:45:57,640 --> 00:45:59,960
Speaker 1: it allows you to ridicule his thing and show him

999
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:00,640
Speaker 1: why he's wrong.

1000
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:02,480
Speaker 3: So what is your thing?

1001
00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:03,120
Speaker 4: What?

1002
00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:06,160
Speaker 2: But hold on a second, I was gonna say.

1003
00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:06,560
Speaker 1: What's your thing?

1004
00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:06,920
Speaker 3: For him?

1005
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:09,240
Speaker 1: Even though you kind of won that whole.

1006
00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:11,080
Speaker 3: I didn't win anything, You didn't win anything, but you

1007
00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:12,799
Speaker 3: kind of went there.

1008
00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:17,200
Speaker 2: You know, I did go offensive because oh my god,

1009
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:20,279
Speaker 2: here come the comments jenn is so mean to Mike. No,

1010
00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:22,160
Speaker 2: we just play around a lot. But I just I

1011
00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:24,640
Speaker 2: think a lot of women justifying No. I think a

1012
00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:27,040
Speaker 2: lot of women. That's just again, their timelines are different

1013
00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:29,360
Speaker 2: than a man's timeline, and for us it's just easier

1014
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:30,120
Speaker 2: to do it ourselves.

1015
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:32,239
Speaker 3: Okay, then don't complain if you do it.

1016
00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:33,319
Speaker 2: I didn't complain one.

1017
00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:36,280
Speaker 3: I'm just saying in general, I gotta do everything.

1018
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:38,759
Speaker 2: Well because we kind of do well.

1019
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:41,279
Speaker 1: People go to yourself, what bothers you about Mike?

1020
00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:42,000
Speaker 3: Or was that it?

1021
00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:47,879
Speaker 2: I mean, that's one of the things. But I will say,

1022
00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:50,600
Speaker 2: you leave and see mine's a lot smaller. You went,

1023
00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:52,840
Speaker 2: real big issue. But I don't like the fact that

1024
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:57,000
Speaker 2: you leave Jason's dirty diapers either in the like you

1025
00:46:57,080 --> 00:47:00,080
Speaker 2: left his wet, very wet, dirty diaper this morning in

1026
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:01,839
Speaker 2: his crib, put in the trash.

1027
00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:02,920
Speaker 3: Okay, I forgot that one.

1028
00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:04,759
Speaker 2: No, but then you always left him in the pack

1029
00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:06,120
Speaker 2: and play so annoying.

1030
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:10,960
Speaker 3: Okay, because you've never left, I've cleaned up, You've never.

1031
00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:13,080
Speaker 2: Do the same thing.

1032
00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:16,040
Speaker 3: You never leave diapers in there.

1033
00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:19,800
Speaker 2: Usually, Actually, I don't you know what else bothers me?

1034
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:21,960
Speaker 2: Oh my god, this is not how the game we're

1035
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:25,120
Speaker 2: trying to show our listeners how we have better conversation.

1036
00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:28,120
Speaker 3: We are, we're having great conversations. Jeez.

1037
00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:30,600
Speaker 2: So after but usually, by the way, how that happens

1038
00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:33,080
Speaker 2: is I'll say, like, hey, he's like, I don't like

1039
00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:35,120
Speaker 2: it when you put the steak knives in the dishwasher

1040
00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:36,480
Speaker 2: and I'd be like, oh, I'm sorry, babe, I'll make

1041
00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:38,120
Speaker 2: sure to hand wash them. And then I'll say I

1042
00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:41,719
Speaker 2: don't like how you leave your shoes right there now,

1043
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:43,920
Speaker 2: and he just says, oh, I'm sorry, babe, I'll make

1044
00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:46,080
Speaker 2: I'll do better with that. That's usually how it goes.

1045
00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:48,040
Speaker 2: It doesn't go like this. We're showing a very terrible

1046
00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:50,160
Speaker 2: example of us both being very offensive.

1047
00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:54,160
Speaker 3: You got this ball rolling, we're going. So after Jay seats,

1048
00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:58,359
Speaker 3: he should stay a little inclined. He shouldn't lay flat

1049
00:47:58,440 --> 00:47:58,919
Speaker 3: on his back.

1050
00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:03,319
Speaker 2: So thirty minutes, thirty minutes, Okay, after I found him

1051
00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:06,040
Speaker 2: this morning, I had to take a big old Okay,

1052
00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:09,239
Speaker 2: so I needed to put him down, right, you can.

1053
00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:11,759
Speaker 3: Put him down in his rocker, that's inclined, okay.

1054
00:48:11,560 --> 00:48:13,080
Speaker 2: All right, that bothers you. Then I'm just going to

1055
00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:17,800
Speaker 2: make sure that well stop burping him and having his

1056
00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:19,439
Speaker 2: spit up go all over the couch.

1057
00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:21,520
Speaker 3: And we're getting rid of that carpet.

1058
00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:23,800
Speaker 2: See, we're getting rid of that.

1059
00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:26,200
Speaker 3: You like, act like you would bring that into the new.

1060
00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:29,080
Speaker 2: House if I got it nicely cleaned. Yes, Oh where

1061
00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:30,839
Speaker 2: would you put it in the living room?

1062
00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:31,040
Speaker 4: Oh?

1063
00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:33,840
Speaker 3: But wait, she wouldn't because our designers didn't say that

1064
00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:35,920
Speaker 3: that rug should go in the house, So if they

1065
00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:39,160
Speaker 3: didn't say it should, then it doesn't belong there. Oh boy,

1066
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:41,239
Speaker 3: this is a fund.

1067
00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:44,200
Speaker 2: Can someone say, like, poor Janna this?

1068
00:48:45,719 --> 00:48:48,000
Speaker 3: How in what way?

1069
00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:51,040
Speaker 2: Okay?

1070
00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:53,279
Speaker 1: I think you canna ask me what bothers me about

1071
00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:53,640
Speaker 1: the two of you?

1072
00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:56,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh my god, I would love to hear that

1073
00:48:57,000 --> 00:48:59,239
Speaker 2: doing this, But I have nothing that bothers me about you.

1074
00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:00,319
Speaker 1: Oh well, thank you much.

1075
00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:00,719
Speaker 3: That's sweet.

1076
00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:01,759
Speaker 1: That's the one little thing.

1077
00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:02,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would love it.

1078
00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:05,160
Speaker 1: We do a podcast for an hour a week. If

1079
00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:06,960
Speaker 1: we get through that hour without you guys eating, that

1080
00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:09,400
Speaker 1: would be really pleasure. I really appreciate it.

1081
00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:13,880
Speaker 2: I know I was really hungry. Yeah, trust me, I know.

1082
00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:19,799
Speaker 2: I'm sorry I was. I was so hungry. I get

1083
00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:20,440
Speaker 2: so hungry.

1084
00:49:21,239 --> 00:49:22,600
Speaker 3: Can you can you hear it on them? Mike? I'm

1085
00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:23,920
Speaker 3: like you can. Yeah.

1086
00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:26,480
Speaker 1: It's a pet peeve of mine. Personally. I don't know

1087
00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:28,439
Speaker 1: if it's the listeners notice it. They may not pick

1088
00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:30,160
Speaker 1: up on it at all because we do something that

1089
00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:34,319
Speaker 1: is what yogurt like soft. Yeah, so maybe they wouldn't notice.

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Speaker 1: But it's something that bothers me.

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Speaker 2: We see, we appreciate, we appreciate that feedback all right.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, and we will respect that you guys are in

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Speaker 3: here multiple hours a day as we're in here in

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Speaker 3: your home for one hour once a week.

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Speaker 2: Respect the workplace. I think that's going to wrap it up,

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Speaker 2: all right, guys. That was a great show that was

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Speaker 2: all over the place.

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Speaker 4: Ye h.