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Speaker 1: game like this, right, you're trying like last night, the

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Speaker 1: angle was pretty kind of just speaks to you. Jared Goff,

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Speaker 1: Dan Campbell. It's a pretty clear headline. That game also

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Speaker 1: has huge ramifications, right. The Lions who have been in

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Speaker 1: the playoffs back to back years. They were in the

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Speaker 1: NFC Championship two years ago. Last year they were the

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Speaker 1: number two seed, the Eagles of the defending champs. There's

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Speaker 1: a lot going on last night this game. You're looking

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Speaker 1: Dallas ends up going seven to nine and one and

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Speaker 1: the Raiders might win three games. So it's like, what

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Speaker 1: am I going to talk about? What is interesting about

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Speaker 1: this game? And I have a noa a lot of

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Speaker 1: Raider fans, and I'm getting texts from from die hards.

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Speaker 1: I'm getting a lot of dms, and I think it's

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Speaker 1: year coaches for their teams this year. Obviously Pete's been

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Speaker 1: one thing that's not debatable now the Cowboys have a

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Speaker 1: long way to go, and we'll dive into kind of

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Speaker 1: their roster management. Brian Schottenniver's good with the offense. Him

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Speaker 1: and Dak have a really good rapport. George Pickens has

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Speaker 1: looked excellent with him obviously when CD's on the field.

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Speaker 1: Like Brian Schottenneimer, how he'll be when the team gets

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Speaker 1: will tell, but his skill is pretty legit, Like he's

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Speaker 1: a pretty good play caller. I'm looking at Pete Carroll,

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Speaker 1: I think when you look at the Raiders, it's kind

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Speaker 1: And in fairness to her, for the last twenty years,

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Speaker 1: And I listen, I Spy Tech's been on this podcast.

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Speaker 1: And here's the other thing. Just because you're a great

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Speaker 1: That doesn't mean in the next couple of years making

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Speaker 1: They are horrendous. They are so bad at football. I

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Speaker 1: mean I was thinking about this about ten minutes into

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Speaker 1: And if you're a sickle like me and have multiple TVs,

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Speaker 1: I do think it's somewhat of a refraction of Pete Carroll.

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Speaker 1: And I think we have to ask ourselves, does this

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Speaker 1: right now, while it's impossible to tell he currently has

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Speaker 1: You think like that, rightfully. So he'll be seventy five

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Speaker 1: So it's like, why are you doing this? And one

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Speaker 1: They do not give a shit. Khalil Mack the moment

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Speaker 1: New Jersey, Ohio, Tennessee, Virginia. I wrote down why do

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Speaker 1: bad teams stay bad? And I have three different examples here.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna start with the Atlanta Falcons, who I was

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Speaker 1: out on again this year. Now, I never believe that

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Speaker 1: they were going to be this bad, because I do

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Speaker 1: think there's a chance that they're like four and thirteen.

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Speaker 1: They have a chance now to completely unravel. It could

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Speaker 1: get really, really ugly. Reports today that Michael Pennix might

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Speaker 1: have retore his acl which I think would be on

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Speaker 1: either knee because he's torn them both. Would be the

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Speaker 1: second time on a knee and would obviously be out

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Speaker 1: for this season and it would impact his offseason and

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Speaker 1: it would hit be his fourth season ending injury I

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Speaker 1: think in the last last year was in the last

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Speaker 1: eight years, so four season ending injuries in eight years

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Speaker 1: and I was texting around to some NFL buddies today

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Speaker 1: and I obviously like Michael Penicks coming out, I was

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Speaker 1: a Michael Penix fan. Most of my friends in the

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Speaker 1: NFL were not. They did not view him as a

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Speaker 1: first round pick. I'm texting around today. He thought a

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Speaker 1: buddy of mine that he's There were several draft boards

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Speaker 1: where he just would have been off based on injuries

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Speaker 1: alone when you play six years in college. In three

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Speaker 1: of those, actually I think four of those, because a

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Speaker 1: couple were like shoulders that you can't finish the season.

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Speaker 1: You know, alarms and red flags go off, and some

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Speaker 1: of that's, you know, predicated on what the doctors are

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Speaker 1: telling you. But that that gives teams. That scares teams

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Speaker 1: because guys with a lot of injury history, even though

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Speaker 1: the past doesn't always predict the future, you know, teams

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Speaker 1: get very rattled by that. And obviously a lot of

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Speaker 1: teams did not view him highly like the Falcons did.

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Speaker 1: But the Falcons had a stretch where they signed Kirk

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Speaker 1: Cousins and drafted this guy in basically thirty days, and

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Speaker 1: it has destroyed their franchise because one Cousin signing is

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Speaker 1: one of the worst in recent memories, and Pennix even

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Speaker 1: before he was injured. I think we have to acknowledge

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Speaker 1: it has not been a very good player. So when

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Speaker 1: you ruin the quarterback position and you're kind of cocky

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Speaker 1: about it, it's gonna get you in trouble. I do

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Speaker 1: think Atlanta the craziest part in this, saddens met Us

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Speaker 1: say is their downfall is actually benefiting the Los Angeles Rams.

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Speaker 1: And I do think there had to be a moment

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Speaker 1: in the draft room where Sean McVay, who's I think

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Speaker 1: I don't know if it was best man in his wedding,

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Speaker 1: but one of his best friends is Raheem Morris, when

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Speaker 1: they got on the phone with less need in the

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Speaker 1: Rams and said, we will offer you a twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: six first round pick for James Pierce. And the Rams

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Speaker 1: should have said, Raheem, we can't let you do that.

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Speaker 1: That is, we would fire you for doing that. So we,

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Speaker 1: just as your good friend, we would advise you to

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Speaker 1: rethink this idea. And they did not do that, and

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Speaker 1: they took their first round pick, and right now, the

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Speaker 1: Rams a day after beating Seattle in first place in

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Speaker 1: the NFC West and looking like a team. I mean,

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Speaker 1: if they play like they did yesterday, would have a

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Speaker 1: chance to win the Super Bowl. Also own the eighth

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Speaker 1: pick in the draft. As we sit here on November seventeenth,

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Speaker 1: let me repeat, the Los Angeles Rams owned the eighth

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Speaker 1: pick in the draft. But here's the thing. How are

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Speaker 1: the Atlanta Falcons going to win any games? We saw

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Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins earlier this season, It's completely over. Pennix is gone,

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Speaker 1: Drake London is now banged up. They are screwed so

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Speaker 1: I and now their defense isn't good. I mean Bryce

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Speaker 1: Young just threw for like seven hundred yards against them

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Speaker 1: in an overtime victory. I think the Atlanta Falcons are

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Speaker 1: a great example. You know, you look around the NFL,

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Speaker 1: even like a team like the Lions right now that

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Speaker 1: have a bad loss, or the Packers that have gone,

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Speaker 1: they are in such a different universe than teams like Atlanta.

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Speaker 1: Like I will just if these were all stocks, you

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Speaker 1: would just short Atlanta every single year. In that move

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Speaker 1: that they made, trading a future first round pick, trading

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Speaker 1: up from the thirties to the twenties. Whether I agree

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Speaker 1: or disagree with taking Travis Hunter number two overall, because

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Speaker 1: you think he can be a two way player, even

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Speaker 1: though no one's ever been a two way player, and

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Speaker 1: that includes his former coach, who is the greatest athlete

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Speaker 1: arguably of all time in the NFL. It could just

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Speaker 1: sparingly play on offense. It's at least you're going from

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Speaker 1: five to two, Like that's the cost of doing business

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Speaker 1: when you trade back into the twenties to give a

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Speaker 1: future first round pick. It is honestly like some of

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Speaker 1: the most reckless draft behavior we have ever seen. And

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Speaker 1: it blew up in their face, Like immediately if I

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Speaker 1: just think, if you're the Rams, you're kind of downplaying it,

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Speaker 1: but I mean you got that in your back pocket.

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Speaker 1: Less Snead is sending his scouts, like scouting all the

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Speaker 1: real high end guys. You know typically you know you're

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Speaker 1: watching whoever the quote unquote you know the kleb downs

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Speaker 1: or the defensive lineman from Ohio State or Miami and

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Speaker 1: you run into someone like the Eagles or you know,

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Speaker 1: the Ravens or the Chiefs, Like you're not drafting these guys.

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Speaker 1: Lesned's like top scouts to stand right next to the

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Speaker 1: dudes from the Giants and the Titans, like, yeah, we

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Speaker 1: might get this guy too. You know, it's like it's

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Speaker 1: just got to be an incredible feeling right now for

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Speaker 1: less need that was always f them picks, and now

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Speaker 1: he's gonna have a top ten pick. Pretty insane. And

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Speaker 1: speaking of why teams are bad, teams stay bad. The

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Speaker 1: New York Jets. I saw a headline today that Tyrod

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Speaker 1: Taylor will be their starting quarterback this year. I saw

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Speaker 1: one of the New York Jets. I think it might

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Speaker 1: have been rich Semini, you know who's the beat reporter

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Speaker 1: covers the team closely for ESPN. He tweeted out some

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Speaker 1: numbers that said if this offseason the Jets cut justin fields,

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Speaker 1: so the dead money they will have from that contract,

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Speaker 1: and if you combine that with the dead money that

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Speaker 1: they will have for Aaron Rodgers' contract next year in

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty six, will combine for fifty seven million dollars

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Speaker 1: in dead cap. Somewhat understand the Aaron Rodgers thing. We

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Speaker 1: probably all would have made the Aaron Rodgers trade he

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Speaker 1: gave them, remember a massive discount when he redid his contract.

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Speaker 1: It kind of is what it is. That was a

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Speaker 1: move that ninety nine percent of people would have made.

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Speaker 1: Given their options and it blew up with their face.

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Speaker 1: The Justin Fields move did not need to happen. They

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Speaker 1: did not need to do that. Why because we all

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Speaker 1: knew that he's not a very good quarterback. Great guy,

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Speaker 1: unreal athlete, awful quarterback, and you're benching a guy that

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Speaker 1: you gave. It's one thing. Listen. Sometimes you know, we

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Speaker 1: gave this guy one year ten million dollars to be

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Speaker 1: the backup and he wasn't any good. It's happened to

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Speaker 1: Andy Dalton before. You know Flacco. I know he's kind

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Speaker 1: of good now, a couple of years ago, he wasn't

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Speaker 1: that good. Like sometimes you give backups one year, seven

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Speaker 1: million dollars and he's just not any good. To give

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Speaker 1: this guy two years forty million dollars is about as

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Speaker 1: crazy as you get, you know, in the free agent market.

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Speaker 1: It really is. In this get the Jets. You look

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Speaker 1: at the Falcons, they have no clue what they're doing

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Speaker 1: when it comes to quarterback. They really do not remember

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Speaker 1: the Falcons before about Ryan, like what was going on there.

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Speaker 1: Obviously Michael Vick went to jail, but like the draction

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Speaker 1: of Michael Vick number one, overall, they don't know what

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Speaker 1: they're doing. And if you look since it's like they've

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Speaker 1: had Desmond Ritter give cousins. It's like Heineke. These franchises.

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Speaker 1: Bad franchises are where quarterbacks go to die. And the

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Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals are a good example of like Jonathan Gannon

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Speaker 1: and Monty I always script the guy's last name, but

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Speaker 1: the GM of the Cardinals, I actually think they're not bad.

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Speaker 1: But they hits their wagon osen Fort, Monty Osenfort, former

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Speaker 1: Patriot guy. They hits their wagon to a team that

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Speaker 1: had Kyler Murray under one of the craziest contracts we've

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Speaker 1: ever seen. I mean the contrast. They felt so good

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Speaker 1: about the contract they had to put a clause in

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Speaker 1: there that he couldn't play video games, which has never

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Speaker 1: happened before and will never happen again when it comes

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Speaker 1: to a quarterback. And obviously when they accepted the job,

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Speaker 1: which I understand, they're only thirty two of them, and

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Speaker 1: there aren't thirty two of them because most like the Ravens,

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Speaker 1: the Chiefs, the forty nine ers, like a lot of

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Speaker 1: these jobs don't ever come open, right, So it's really

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Speaker 1: the same tennis jobs that kind of recycle, right. The Jets,

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Speaker 1: the Giants, the Cardinals, the Jags. So you're gonna hit

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Speaker 1: your wag into a bad NFL job, even though it's

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Speaker 1: like not that bad. My wife's in real estate. When

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Speaker 1: Jonathan Gannon bought his house down, you know, closer to Tempe,

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Speaker 1: I remember googling or you know, she had all the like,

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Speaker 1: she has these programs like that. It's pretty big. Mortgage's

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Speaker 1: taken out. Business must be booming, so you make a

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Speaker 1: lot of money. And I think Jonathan Gannon actually is

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Speaker 1: pretty solid. But the team now is just a complete

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Speaker 1: that they have no quarterback, right, think about this. The

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Speaker 1: guy that they inherited on a max contract got bench

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Speaker 1: for Jacoby Brissett, who the last two weeks they've played

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Speaker 1: Seattle in the forty nine ers and they lost forty

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Speaker 1: four to twenty two and forty one to twenty two,

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Speaker 1: and neither game was that close. Like those scores don't

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Speaker 1: indicate what we witnessed. And they're all gonna get fired

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Speaker 1: and it's all because they took a job with a

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Speaker 1: guy on a massive contract that's not a max player.

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Speaker 1: And you see this around the league when you sign

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Speaker 1: these guys to these huge contracts and they're not Max players.

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Speaker 1: You have immediate problems and guys' jobs are lost. And

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Speaker 1: I would say this about if all these guys get

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Speaker 1: fired and maybe the GM kind of like the giants,

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Speaker 1: keeps their job, which is always kind of crazy, but

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Speaker 1: it happens more often than both guys getting blown out.

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Speaker 1: Is this is a terrible gig, It really is. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you're in a division with Sean McVeigh, Kyle shanahan and

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Speaker 1: Mike McDonald. You have no chance. Your owner's a clown.

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Speaker 1: I mean he really is. The ownership has no clue.

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Speaker 1: He really doesn't. Like the best thing that could ever

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Speaker 1: happen to the Arizona Cardinals would be the Bidwell family

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Speaker 1: selling the team. I would say the same thing. You know,

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Speaker 1: Mark Davis's mom, Carol, who's Al's wife, just died. I

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Speaker 1: would say, the best thing that could ever happen to

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Speaker 1: the Raiders is the same thing, just sell the team.

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Speaker 1: Look at the Bus family. You know, doctor Buss was

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Speaker 1: extremely successful and then he gave it to his incompetent kids,

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Speaker 1: and the franchise became a laughingstock and they got lucky.

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Speaker 1: They were in a great area and Lebron just wanted

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Speaker 1: to play there because if Lebron didn't want to play there.

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Speaker 1: This franchise over the last decade plus, and every Laker

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00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:52,760
Speaker 1: fan would acknowledge this would have been like the Sacramento Kinks,

641
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:55,879
Speaker 1: and they got really lucky that. However, this played out,

642
00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:58,520
Speaker 1: and I've read some different articles listening to different podcasts

643
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:02,280
Speaker 1: with the children that they sold it to the Dodger

644
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:05,520
Speaker 1: group because now they got a chance, they got real

645
00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:10,200
Speaker 1: ownership that knows what they're doing. And I think all

646
00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:15,120
Speaker 1: these places. You know Arthur Blank, you know clearly when

647
00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:17,480
Speaker 1: he was younger, pretty high level business guy, made his

648
00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:20,919
Speaker 1: fortune himself, but he hired the right guy once upon

649
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:23,759
Speaker 1: a time in Thomas Demetrov and then ever since. I

650
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:25,640
Speaker 1: don't know if it was pressure to fire him. Obviously

651
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:28,479
Speaker 1: they had a couple bad years and you start hiring

652
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:31,720
Speaker 1: the wrong people. The owner gets way older, he's way richer,

653
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:34,320
Speaker 1: he's just out of touch, and the franchise just falls apart,

654
00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:37,399
Speaker 1: you know, obviously Woody Johnson and they got no clue

655
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:40,239
Speaker 1: what they're doing. The Bidwell family no clue what they're doing.

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00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:43,200
Speaker 1: I think Mark Davis's heart's in the right place. He's trying,

657
00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:48,640
Speaker 1: but it's just the same shit every year. It's crazy,

658
00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:53,200
Speaker 1: it's it's honestly, I feel bad for the fans really quick.

659
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Speaker 1: I didn't really talk yesterday about the performance of Josh Allen,

660
00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:00,120
Speaker 1: but talk about a guy that was zoned in. And

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00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:07,160
Speaker 1: I do think we have to all universally agreed that

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Speaker 1: the best quarterback, like the best quarterback in the NFL

663
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Speaker 1: is Josh Allen right now. We saw Mahomes play Denver

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Speaker 1: and honestly just Mahomes throughout the season, Like, Josh Allen's

665
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:19,920
Speaker 1: a better player, but the thing is relative to some

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Speaker 1: of his counterparts. Like even watching Bo Nicks and Denver,

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Speaker 1: that team's loaded Josh Allen, Like, who's Josh Allen's second

668
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:33,919
Speaker 1: best teammate? Cook Dawkins left tackle? Like who's Like, could

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Speaker 1: you dame his five best teammates? He doesn't have some

670
00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:42,400
Speaker 1: loaded roster that's well established. But I don't remember a guy.

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Speaker 1: You know. Part of what made like Cam Newton so

672
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:49,280
Speaker 1: special was physically there was never anyone quite like him,

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Speaker 1: and I do think he's the greatest physical running quarterback

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00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:55,120
Speaker 1: we've ever seen. But as he got older, it took

675
00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:57,440
Speaker 1: a toll on him, messed up his shoulder, and by

676
00:36:57,440 --> 00:36:59,000
Speaker 1: the end of his career, like he used to have

677
00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:02,040
Speaker 1: a howitzer. While he never was that accurate, he had

678
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:05,479
Speaker 1: this massive arm. It's why when he had games where

679
00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:07,400
Speaker 1: he was in a rhythm and he was on, he

680
00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:09,680
Speaker 1: could look like the most dominant player in the NFL.

681
00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:11,640
Speaker 1: Obviously he had the one great season he won the MVP,

682
00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:15,000
Speaker 1: but throughout his career he would just have individual games

683
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:17,200
Speaker 1: where he could go toe to toe with anybody and

684
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Speaker 1: just completely take over the game. And a lot of

685
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:21,279
Speaker 1: that had to do with, like physically, you could just

686
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Speaker 1: run these quarterback runs for him that were just simply unstoppable,

687
00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:28,400
Speaker 1: and Josh Allen has that. The thing that he also

688
00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:31,160
Speaker 1: has is he can just turn into a thrower like

689
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Speaker 1: he's Dan Marino, John Elway, Tom Brady, Patrick Mahomes and

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00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:40,160
Speaker 1: he carries the franchise. And that was a moment in

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Speaker 1: that game against the Bucks. I mean, there were a

692
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:45,080
Speaker 1: couple times where it's like the Bucks would score, It's like, God,

693
00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:48,120
Speaker 1: the Bills backs a little against the wall. It did

694
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Speaker 1: feel like that was the tipping point for their season

695
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Speaker 1: if they lost. If they lose that game, it does

696
00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:59,600
Speaker 1: feel like everything could unravel. Sean McDermott had to inactivate

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Speaker 1: on Coleman because he slept through a morning meeting on Friday,

698
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Speaker 1: And I told Coward this, when I saw that kind

699
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:08,680
Speaker 1: of showed you. I think if they were eight and

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00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:11,400
Speaker 1: one and just rolling like we expected them to do

701
00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:14,360
Speaker 1: at the beginning of the season, I don't think he's inactive.

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Speaker 1: I think that's your classic. You call him into your room,

703
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Speaker 1: you kind of talk talk to him, maybe you bench

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00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:21,520
Speaker 1: him for a series or two, or maybe the first quarter.

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Speaker 1: You kind of let the locker room handle it, and

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00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:26,279
Speaker 1: you just kind of move on. But when all of

707
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:28,799
Speaker 1: a sudden you're getting your ass kicked by the Miami Dolphins,

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Speaker 1: you kind of got to draw a line in the sand.

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00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:33,560
Speaker 1: You have to show Josh Allen, you have to show,

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00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:36,359
Speaker 1: you know, Cook and Dawkins and some of your core

711
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:38,919
Speaker 1: guys like we're not going to tolerate this. I got

712
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:41,080
Speaker 1: your back because you guys are all working so hard.

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Speaker 1: But then I think Josh kind of sees that and go, God,

714
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Speaker 1: we got some of these young guys we're bringing in

715
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Speaker 1: don't quite know what's going on and aren't focused enough,

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Speaker 1: And all of a sudden, we're playing the Bucks who

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Speaker 1: have a bunch of injuries. At home where we never

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Speaker 1: lose and they're scoring. They got some running back most

719
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Speaker 1: of us have never heard of unless you're a Syracuse alum.

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Speaker 1: And all of a sudden, Sean Tucker's looking like he's

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00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:07,200
Speaker 1: Walter Payton meets uh Ladanian Tomlinson. You're like, who is

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00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:10,399
Speaker 1: this guy? The Bills are gonna lose? And then Josh

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Speaker 1: Allen just simply said, no, under no circumstances are we losing.

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Speaker 1: And I've said this forever. The thing I like most

725
00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:22,120
Speaker 1: about professional sports, like undrafted free agent stories are cool,

726
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:26,200
Speaker 1: they're cute. Like I watched for Tom Brady, I watched

727
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:30,160
Speaker 1: for Ceedee Lamb, you know, I watched for Josh Allen,

728
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:36,920
Speaker 1: and that performance the other night was just it was electric, dominant,

729
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Speaker 1: and it had to happen because without him, I think,

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Speaker 1: all of a sudden, their season could just start heading

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Speaker 1: toward the toilet. And he just he just refused, you know,

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Speaker 1: to even give that like it wasn't even an option.

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Speaker 1: He just simply said, not on my watch. So props

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Speaker 1: of Josh Allen. A couple quick college things I want

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Speaker 1: to start with this. James Franklin was announced as the

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Speaker 1: head coach for the Virginia Tech Hokies this afternoon, maybe

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Speaker 1: an hour or two before the Monday night football game,

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Speaker 1: and signs. You know, the Virginia Tech has been desperately

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00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:18,080
Speaker 1: trying to sign him. They've been making offers. Felt like

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Speaker 1: James Franklin was kind of, you know, waiting to see

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Speaker 1: what else popped, what his other options were. I do

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00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:27,960
Speaker 1: think he would have other options, but he chose, you know,

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Speaker 1: a team in the ACC which path to the playoffs

744
00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:36,400
Speaker 1: and just to the conference championship is clearly easier than

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Speaker 1: the one he just had, where you had the beat

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Speaker 1: Ohio State and now Oregon, and if Michigan's good, and

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Speaker 1: especially the SEC. If he had taken the Auburn job

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Speaker 1: or the Arkansas job, where you have to deal with Bama, Georgia,

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Speaker 1: Ole miss or LSU whoever's really good, obviously tougher pass.

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Speaker 1: But part of the story was that Penn State owed

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Speaker 1: him forty nine million dollars forty nine million dollars, and

752
00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:12,000
Speaker 1: to facilitate this move, he gave them back forty million dollars.

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00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:17,880
Speaker 1: He negotiated a nine million dollar buyout to facilitate this

754
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:22,280
Speaker 1: move to Virginia Tech, where obviously he's gonna be making

755
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:25,160
Speaker 1: millions of dollars the contract details are not yet out.

756
00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:28,360
Speaker 1: Let's just assume six seven eight million dollars whatever. But

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00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:31,279
Speaker 1: Henn State was going to, no matter what, have to

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Speaker 1: pay him forty nine million dollars. And I try to

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00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:36,759
Speaker 1: give and most people have, I think. And I was

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00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:41,759
Speaker 1: listening to this Charlie Munger book at the gym when

761
00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:44,520
Speaker 1: I was doing some cardio, and he thought, the number

762
00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:48,319
Speaker 1: one key to success whatever you do, find what you're

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00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:52,760
Speaker 1: passionate about, and gravitate toward an industry that revolves around

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00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:55,680
Speaker 1: your passion because the point of difference you will have

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00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:59,439
Speaker 1: of just working harder because it won't feel like work

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00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:02,400
Speaker 1: at times, and you will just go above and beyond

767
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:06,160
Speaker 1: when you really like what you do. And these coaches,

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00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:10,200
Speaker 1: I can't imagine. I don't know any human beings in

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Speaker 1: the real world that would ever facilitate forty million dollars

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00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:17,680
Speaker 1: to give back to keep working when you would be

771
00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:20,719
Speaker 1: paid fifty million dollars not to work. But that's what

772
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:25,080
Speaker 1: happens now. Obviously, his financial situation, he's already made millions

773
00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:29,239
Speaker 1: upon millions of dollars at Penn State, so money is

774
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:32,000
Speaker 1: not changing the way he lives, and he's going to

775
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:35,279
Speaker 1: continue to make millions. But I don't believe many human

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00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:38,400
Speaker 1: beings would do that. I just simply don't. And I

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00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 1: often think if I was in those shoes, no matter

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00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:44,719
Speaker 1: how passionate, I was about my next project, like just

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00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:47,560
Speaker 1: And when he went on college game day whatever a

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00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:51,480
Speaker 1: month a month ago, and I thought it was you know,

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00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:53,080
Speaker 1: don't I don't know. I mean, it's part of his

782
00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:56,400
Speaker 1: persona being a little bit of a bullshitter, being a

783
00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:58,200
Speaker 1: little bit like of a politician. I mean, that's why

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00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:00,439
Speaker 1: he's such a great recruiter. He's got a big personality.

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00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:02,640
Speaker 1: But I think some people layeled with him, his little

786
00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:05,160
Speaker 1: fake or whatever. And he went on game day and

787
00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:08,759
Speaker 1: he said, you know, I'm paraphrasing here, but like my

788
00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:11,719
Speaker 1: fire burns as strong as it ever has, and I

789
00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:14,759
Speaker 1: want in, and I want in now. I can't wait

790
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:16,960
Speaker 1: to coach again. I thought, you know, he's just saying

791
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:20,840
Speaker 1: the right things. He was not bsen because he jumped

792
00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:24,720
Speaker 1: right back in. And my first take is it's Virginia

793
00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:26,879
Speaker 1: take a good job. I mean, that place has been

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00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:32,240
Speaker 1: abysmal over the last decade plus, so to not only

795
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:35,399
Speaker 1: take a job, but to give forty million dollars back

796
00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:38,480
Speaker 1: to go to a place that has been kind of

797
00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:45,160
Speaker 1: embarrassingly bad, and to try to prove yourself. I gotta

798
00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:48,359
Speaker 1: give your respect because I can't imagine myself. I can't

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00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:50,759
Speaker 1: imagine most people in my life. It's like, bro, I

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00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:53,080
Speaker 1: probably would have gone to the beach, even if I

801
00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:56,400
Speaker 1: eventually got back in in a year or two. I'm

802
00:43:56,440 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 1: definitely taking a year off being paid nine ten million

803
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:03,840
Speaker 1: dollars to do nothing like that's to me, that's the

804
00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:07,560
Speaker 1: American dream. But clearly the American dream to James Franklin

805
00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:11,279
Speaker 1: is coaching the Hokies against like a NC State, So

806
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:15,520
Speaker 1: props to him. And then there's Lane Kiffin and'll w

807
00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:18,960
Speaker 1: end on this. I think a lot of people in

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00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:22,880
Speaker 1: the SEC think Lane has kind of jumped the shark

809
00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:25,759
Speaker 1: of now starting to toy with Ole miss and I

810
00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:30,480
Speaker 1: would imagine most people that cover college football are going

811
00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:33,080
Speaker 1: to have the messaging of we think Lane is gone.

812
00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:38,040
Speaker 1: My overall take in these situations because like, oh, this

813
00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:41,640
Speaker 1: is Lane messing with someone again, or this is Lane

814
00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:44,200
Speaker 1: about to leave right when he's about to make the playoffs.

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00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:48,640
Speaker 1: I think it's easy for a lot of people, you know,

816
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:52,040
Speaker 1: in the thing with football, especially if you become a

817
00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:54,560
Speaker 1: great coach. Right, we say this all the time about players,

818
00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:58,080
Speaker 1: like their shelf life's short, but the average NFL careers

819
00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:00,840
Speaker 1: three or four years. Even if you're great player in

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00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:05,600
Speaker 1: the NFL, maybe it's eleven year career. Right. You do

821
00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:08,080
Speaker 1: not get to play for thirty five years, but you

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00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:13,800
Speaker 1: do as a coach. And you never know how powerful

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00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:17,640
Speaker 1: your quote unquote brand or your star is gonna how

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00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:20,919
Speaker 1: bright it's gonna be. And right now, Lane Kiffin can't

825
00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:24,759
Speaker 1: be any hotter. And he also has the experience of like,

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00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:28,239
Speaker 1: I've been the lowest. I have been the guy when

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00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:31,440
Speaker 1: I got fired at the tarmac that everyone thought was

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00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:35,960
Speaker 1: the biggest clown in the country, that was unhirable. And

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00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:40,960
Speaker 1: now I have LSU and Florida and probably some NFL

830
00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:45,520
Speaker 1: teams lined up for my services. So all you guys going,

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00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:49,359
Speaker 1: this is not right. How am I supposed to handle this?

832
00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:53,440
Speaker 1: There are certain situations in life that are just not

833
00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:56,879
Speaker 1: easy to handle. It's just not even if it is

834
00:45:57,000 --> 00:46:00,239
Speaker 1: the right move, even if it is like, hey, honey

835
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:03,719
Speaker 1: is not working out, we probably need to take a break. Well,

836
00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:07,399
Speaker 1: when you finally get a divorce, it's usually pretty ugly, right,

837
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:09,680
Speaker 1: Like anyone that's ever been in a position of management

838
00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:13,239
Speaker 1: that's had to fire someone or been fired. These situations

839
00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:16,680
Speaker 1: are messy, just like Lane Kiffin. Like listen, I don't

840
00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:18,920
Speaker 1: even know if I want to leave all miss But

841
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:22,160
Speaker 1: wouldn't it be prudent to I don't know, have my

842
00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:25,560
Speaker 1: family and myself just look at LSU. What does the

843
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:29,799
Speaker 1: LSU Tigers have to offer? What does the University of

844
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:32,920
Speaker 1: Florida have to offer? It's so easy for everyone to say,

845
00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:36,040
Speaker 1: it's like, you're in the playoffs at all abyss, why

846
00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:39,000
Speaker 1: would you want to leave? Well, you probably have never

847
00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:41,799
Speaker 1: had multiple universities that are willing to pay you eighty

848
00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:45,440
Speaker 1: to one hundred million dollars that historically have been viewed

849
00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:48,560
Speaker 1: as lightier, better jobs. Now that might not be the

850
00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:52,319
Speaker 1: case anymore. But my point is I see a lot

851
00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:55,759
Speaker 1: of people being very critical of Lane in this situation,

852
00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:58,320
Speaker 1: and historically he's brought a lot of this on himself.

853
00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:00,759
Speaker 1: I don't think there's an easy way to handle this,

854
00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:05,440
Speaker 1: because I do think he's somewhat obligated given this opportunity

855
00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:10,799
Speaker 1: to at least sniff around, at least dip his toe

856
00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:14,080
Speaker 1: in the water and just see what else is out there, right,

857
00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:17,160
Speaker 1: Because you could argue that this is as good as

858
00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:19,439
Speaker 1: it gets at ole Miss. It will never get better

859
00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:23,160
Speaker 1: than this, Literally, it never has. They never had back

860
00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:25,520
Speaker 1: to back years of ten plus wins, definitely have never

861
00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:27,880
Speaker 1: had three straight years of ten plus wins, which they

862
00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:31,680
Speaker 1: have right now. Now, what's gonna suck is that if

863
00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:34,440
Speaker 1: he does and this stuff gets out, especially I mean

864
00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:37,360
Speaker 1: it got out today he flew his ex wife and

865
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:40,320
Speaker 1: his brother's wife and some of their kids were in LSU.

866
00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:42,760
Speaker 1: I think yesterday they were in Florida. So they're clearly,

867
00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:45,560
Speaker 1: you know, playing the field a little bit. And if

868
00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:48,400
Speaker 1: I was a betting man, I would imagine he leaves.

869
00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:51,640
Speaker 1: I would guess, if I had to take an educated guess,

870
00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:55,040
Speaker 1: I would guess these at the University of Florida. You know,

871
00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:57,359
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know the date, But I also

872
00:47:57,400 --> 00:47:59,719
Speaker 1: have seen a lot of this, like ole Miss is

873
00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:02,759
Speaker 1: gonna give him an ultimatum, a deadline, and if he

874
00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:06,279
Speaker 1: doesn't sign it, they might not let him coach in

875
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:09,520
Speaker 1: the playoffs, which where it feels inevitable when he beats

876
00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:12,040
Speaker 1: Mississippi State here in a couple of weeks. I actually

877
00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:14,760
Speaker 1: think that's kind of crazy, Like you got into business

878
00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:16,719
Speaker 1: with this guy for a reason just a couple of

879
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:19,280
Speaker 1: years ago. He stayed loyal to you instead of leaving

880
00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:22,920
Speaker 1: for Auburn, which I think historically every single coach alive

881
00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:27,200
Speaker 1: would leave ole Miss for Auburn. I if I was

882
00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:29,240
Speaker 1: old Missed and maybe it's easy for me to say,

883
00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:34,200
Speaker 1: thousands of miles away in an office in Scottsdale, like

884
00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:37,040
Speaker 1: I think I would let him coach. This is not

885
00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:41,320
Speaker 1: twenty twelve. All these guys are on year to year contracts,

886
00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:44,680
Speaker 1: your players, your coaches. This is kind of a different

887
00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:48,480
Speaker 1: world where it's just kind of driven by a mercenary mindset,

888
00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:50,840
Speaker 1: and it's been a big part of ole Miss's success.

889
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:54,280
Speaker 1: Part of the reason Lane Kiffin has crushed is because

890
00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:58,000
Speaker 1: of the portal isn't his nickname the Portal King? So

891
00:48:58,200 --> 00:49:01,000
Speaker 1: it's like his running back he just handed his belt

892
00:49:01,040 --> 00:49:03,319
Speaker 1: to when they beat Florida and did the belt to ask,

893
00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:07,359
Speaker 1: you know where that player was last year? Missouri? So

894
00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:10,840
Speaker 1: I mean the starting quarterback is from Farris State to

895
00:49:11,120 --> 00:49:16,319
Speaker 1: college football. This isn't nineteen seventy eight Barry Switzer and

896
00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:19,560
Speaker 1: Tom Osborne and Bobby Bowden. Those days are done. You're

897
00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:22,000
Speaker 1: not spending four or five years with the same coaches,

898
00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:25,959
Speaker 1: the same players. This is a mercenary sport, and Lane

899
00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:29,160
Speaker 1: Kiffin's kind of treating it like it is, like the

900
00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:32,200
Speaker 1: players treat him like he treats the players. That is

901
00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:35,200
Speaker 1: the world we're in. I don't think we will ever

902
00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:41,840
Speaker 1: see a situation even like Nick seventeen years someplace. You know,

903
00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:46,279
Speaker 1: Kirby's on year ten. Does he have ten more? If

904
00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:48,400
Speaker 1: you said, right now, John, would you bet ten thousand

905
00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:51,560
Speaker 1: dollars just Kirby coach ten more years of Georgia, I

906
00:49:51,560 --> 00:49:54,520
Speaker 1: would bet against it. I would bet against it. Not

907
00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:56,800
Speaker 1: because it's not going well. He's kicking ass and taking names,

908
00:49:56,840 --> 00:50:01,799
Speaker 1: but it's just it's not usually the things work. It

909
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:05,120
Speaker 1: really isn't hew. Nick Saban, even in the peak of

910
00:50:05,160 --> 00:50:08,960
Speaker 1: the Bama dynasty, almost went to Texas, like I think

911
00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:12,600
Speaker 1: there were reports he was really close to accepting at

912
00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:14,799
Speaker 1: the time was like ten years, one hundred million dollar offer.

913
00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:20,520
Speaker 1: I forget this, probably twenty sixteen, fifteen seventeen range and

914
00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:23,560
Speaker 1: he I think some people say he verbally accepted and

915
00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:25,080
Speaker 1: then he kind of got cold feet and stay with

916
00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:28,279
Speaker 1: Alabama and the rest is history. But that's usually the

917
00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:31,239
Speaker 1: way these guys are wired. So I just think a

918
00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:33,960
Speaker 1: lot of people are shitting on Lane. There's no easy

919
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:36,759
Speaker 1: way to handle these situations. But I think it's so

920
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:39,880
Speaker 1: easy for those of us that have never been in

921
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922
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923
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924
00:50:50,040 --> 00:50:54,399
Speaker 1: You all are the uh, the Michael Jackson, you are

925
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927
00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:04,600
Speaker 1: up to give five hundred million dollars too. That's usually

928
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Speaker 1: one person, and Lane Kiffin is sitting in that seat

929
00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:12,600
Speaker 1: right now. So it's there's no easy way to navigate it.

930
00:51:12,680 --> 00:51:15,359
Speaker 1: And I can't watch the way the watch the way

931
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Speaker 1: right now. We'll start with Matthew. Like the Sunday Night

955
00:52:37,640 --> 00:52:41,920
Speaker 1: recuap question for the back is the top do you

956
00:52:41,960 --> 00:52:45,640
Speaker 1: think the top coaches are underpaid? Thinking about from a

957
00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:49,759
Speaker 1: job like the Patriots, the Bears, and the Broncos. This year,

958
00:52:50,080 --> 00:52:52,880
Speaker 1: whatever they are paying their coaches, they're getting a discount.

959
00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:56,480
Speaker 1: Look what Harbad did with the Chargers last year. Look

960
00:52:56,520 --> 00:52:59,160
Speaker 1: what Schottenheimer is doing with the banged up I think

961
00:52:59,160 --> 00:53:01,640
Speaker 1: you mean Shanahan. I know what you mean. Forty nine

962
00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:04,080
Speaker 1: ers and some of the top college coaches that are

963
00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:06,840
Speaker 1: bringing in millions for the university are the top fifteen

964
00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:09,799
Speaker 1: percent of coaches underpaid when you think about it, and

965
00:53:09,840 --> 00:53:12,440
Speaker 1: if an owner goes cheap on a coach again, they

966
00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:16,120
Speaker 1: are to blame when the teams collapse. Been saying it forever.

967
00:53:16,680 --> 00:53:18,799
Speaker 1: Let's use Andy as an example, right, He's been the

968
00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:21,960
Speaker 1: most successful over the last six or seven years. Obviously

969
00:53:22,040 --> 00:53:25,040
Speaker 1: this year down year for their standards, but five Super

970
00:53:25,040 --> 00:53:28,560
Speaker 1: Bowls six years, the amount of home games they've had

971
00:53:28,560 --> 00:53:32,400
Speaker 1: that they've hosted the AFC Championship game every year beside

972
00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:35,120
Speaker 1: the one where they play the Ravens, and they've won

973
00:53:35,160 --> 00:53:37,360
Speaker 1: the division every year. So the amount of money and

974
00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:41,280
Speaker 1: equity he's made his owner the equivalent in the private

975
00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:44,880
Speaker 1: sector of companies worth billions of dollars, you know, the

976
00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:48,920
Speaker 1: CEOs of companies. And that's what coach read is. You know,

977
00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:52,520
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes is compensated right for his skills, four hundred

978
00:53:52,520 --> 00:53:55,479
Speaker 1: fifty million dollar contract and as that rolls over, he'll

979
00:53:55,480 --> 00:53:59,320
Speaker 1: get more guaranteed money. So he's going to make hundreds

980
00:53:59,360 --> 00:54:02,200
Speaker 1: of hundreds of millions of dollars playing for the Chiefs.

981
00:54:02,200 --> 00:54:03,759
Speaker 1: And then on top of that, what he's gonna make

982
00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:06,480
Speaker 1: off the field. Well, if coachree, let's just say he's

983
00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:09,600
Speaker 1: making fifteen million dollars a year, maybe it's eighteen, you

984
00:54:09,640 --> 00:54:12,319
Speaker 1: could argue the going rate should be double that. The

985
00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:16,520
Speaker 1: problem is it's all based on what your position in

986
00:54:16,560 --> 00:54:18,840
Speaker 1: other places are making, and it's like, well, the highest

987
00:54:18,840 --> 00:54:22,319
Speaker 1: paid coaches making seventeen. Well, look, I don't care. Look

988
00:54:22,360 --> 00:54:24,840
Speaker 1: at the real world, and my job should be paying

989
00:54:25,360 --> 00:54:28,279
Speaker 1: the value I bring to you, the stability I bring

990
00:54:28,320 --> 00:54:34,200
Speaker 1: to the organization. I'd argue forty million dollars. You know, seriously,

991
00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:37,400
Speaker 1: I mean the forty nine ers were dead when Kyle

992
00:54:37,480 --> 00:54:39,960
Speaker 1: got there. He's taking them to multiple Super Bowls, a

993
00:54:39,960 --> 00:54:43,480
Speaker 1: ton of NFC Championship games. They'll probably go back to

994
00:54:43,520 --> 00:54:45,799
Speaker 1: the playoffs this year. What value is that to Jed

995
00:54:45,920 --> 00:54:48,880
Speaker 1: Yorke who lives in Silicon Valley. I mean, Elon just

996
00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:51,520
Speaker 1: signed a trillion dollar pay package. Now he's got a

997
00:54:51,640 --> 00:54:53,720
Speaker 1: hit incentives and it will probably never make it trillion

998
00:54:53,760 --> 00:54:57,640
Speaker 1: dollars but like these CEOs and presidents of these big

999
00:54:57,640 --> 00:55:01,840
Speaker 1: companies make a ton, like these coaches get any equity

1000
00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:04,719
Speaker 1: in the team right and the players that the high

1001
00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:08,640
Speaker 1: end players are making so much money rightfully. So I

1002
00:55:08,680 --> 00:55:11,680
Speaker 1: do think the top coaches are definitely underpaid. I think

1003
00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:16,839
Speaker 1: Ben Johnson, I think he's the Midwest Kyle Shanahan. I

1004
00:55:16,880 --> 00:55:20,000
Speaker 1: love everything Ben Johnson stands for, like serious kind of

1005
00:55:20,040 --> 00:55:22,520
Speaker 1: old school for being a younger guy and loves to

1006
00:55:22,600 --> 00:55:25,000
Speaker 1: run the ball. Well, guess what that translates in freezing

1007
00:55:25,040 --> 00:55:28,440
Speaker 1: cold temperatures. So if I'm a Bears fan, I'm pretty

1008
00:55:28,440 --> 00:55:33,560
Speaker 1: fired up. How often does strength of schedule get factored

1009
00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:36,400
Speaker 1: into analyzing who the best teams are in the NFL?

1010
00:55:36,640 --> 00:55:38,719
Speaker 1: Do you think some of the teams get overinflated win

1011
00:55:38,800 --> 00:55:42,920
Speaker 1: totals due to playing easier schedules. I'm specifically thinking of

1012
00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:46,200
Speaker 1: the NFC North last year, the NFC West this year.

1013
00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:49,000
Speaker 1: Vikings looked like at world beaters last year, but they

1014
00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:52,479
Speaker 1: also played the AFC South. Same with the NFC West

1015
00:55:52,480 --> 00:55:55,719
Speaker 1: this year. I definitely think it gets factored in. But

1016
00:55:55,840 --> 00:55:59,640
Speaker 1: you also got a factor like, for example, the forty

1017
00:55:59,719 --> 00:56:02,600
Speaker 1: nine or are gonna win ten games? Let's just assume

1018
00:56:02,719 --> 00:56:04,600
Speaker 1: where we sit here right now, they're seven and four.

1019
00:56:05,320 --> 00:56:08,279
Speaker 1: If they had a tough schedule with their injuries, they're

1020
00:56:08,320 --> 00:56:11,799
Speaker 1: probably winning seven or eight. We all acknowledge that. But

1021
00:56:11,840 --> 00:56:14,400
Speaker 1: you can go well, Seattle and the Rams, because of

1022
00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:18,000
Speaker 1: the divisions that they've drawn the AFC and NFC South

1023
00:56:18,640 --> 00:56:22,120
Speaker 1: are gonna have maybe an inflated win total of thirteen

1024
00:56:22,239 --> 00:56:26,359
Speaker 1: or fourteen wins. But we acknowledge they're really good right

1025
00:56:26,440 --> 00:56:28,879
Speaker 1: when healthy, and those teams are healthy right now are

1026
00:56:29,000 --> 00:56:32,880
Speaker 1: high end teams, but especially the Rams, like the Rams

1027
00:56:32,920 --> 00:56:35,879
Speaker 1: also have a history of beating good people. I think

1028
00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:38,440
Speaker 1: sometimes like with a one year wonder, like let's use

1029
00:56:38,480 --> 00:56:41,840
Speaker 1: the Viking situation, I think they could be in major trouble.

1030
00:56:42,520 --> 00:56:47,320
Speaker 1: I mean, their quarterback situation is an unmitigated disaster. There's

1031
00:56:47,360 --> 00:56:50,520
Speaker 1: no way around it. Right, let's face it. Let's use

1032
00:56:50,600 --> 00:56:53,080
Speaker 1: and I use this with Colin. I give two examples.

1033
00:56:53,840 --> 00:56:57,239
Speaker 1: The forty nine ers got are the luckiest team of

1034
00:56:57,280 --> 00:56:59,920
Speaker 1: all time. They traded three first round picks for a

1035
00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:02,400
Speaker 1: guy that couldn't play, and they ended up going with

1036
00:57:02,480 --> 00:57:05,040
Speaker 1: their seventh round pick who now is on a fifty

1037
00:57:05,080 --> 00:57:08,280
Speaker 1: million dollars year contract, who just actually coming off the injury.

1038
00:57:08,520 --> 00:57:12,000
Speaker 1: Bertie was good yesterday, but like that's not normal. Usually

1039
00:57:12,040 --> 00:57:16,040
Speaker 1: when you make a quarterback mistake, you're screwed. Chris Bower'd

1040
00:57:16,040 --> 00:57:17,680
Speaker 1: be the first to tell you, like, we're very lucky

1041
00:57:17,720 --> 00:57:19,640
Speaker 1: this Daniel Jones thing is working out the way it is,

1042
00:57:20,120 --> 00:57:24,160
Speaker 1: because without it we'd have major, major problems. And lucks

1043
00:57:24,200 --> 00:57:27,280
Speaker 1: a huge part of quarterbacks, right, Like Jason Light be

1044
00:57:27,320 --> 00:57:29,120
Speaker 1: the first to tell you when we gave four million

1045
00:57:29,160 --> 00:57:31,560
Speaker 1: dollars to Baker Mayfield whatever, three or four years ago,

1046
00:57:32,040 --> 00:57:33,600
Speaker 1: we didn't expect it to turn out the way as

1047
00:57:33,600 --> 00:57:36,920
Speaker 1: turned out. So it's part of life. Sometimes you get

1048
00:57:36,920 --> 00:57:40,800
Speaker 1: into business with someone and a booms, right, And I

1049
00:57:40,840 --> 00:57:44,080
Speaker 1: think that it's pretty rare. Though with quarterback. It happens

1050
00:57:44,080 --> 00:57:47,720
Speaker 1: at a lot of random positions. Like Zach Bond goes

1051
00:57:47,760 --> 00:57:51,000
Speaker 1: from like role player, special teams guy two All Pro.

1052
00:57:51,440 --> 00:57:55,000
Speaker 1: That has happened countless times throughout the NFL. Mike Vrabel

1053
00:57:55,040 --> 00:57:57,400
Speaker 1: couldn't get on the field for the Steelers, goes to

1054
00:57:57,440 --> 00:58:00,400
Speaker 1: the Patriots with Belichick and becomes the star. Right that

1055
00:58:00,880 --> 00:58:06,400
Speaker 1: it's much more normal linebacker, slot receiver, at guard, right safety.

1056
00:58:06,440 --> 00:58:10,680
Speaker 1: It's very rare quarterback. Also because the premium you would

1057
00:58:10,720 --> 00:58:14,080
Speaker 1: pay for a good quarterback. So I definitely think we

1058
00:58:14,120 --> 00:58:16,280
Speaker 1: talk a lot about the schedule, But you could have

1059
00:58:16,400 --> 00:58:18,880
Speaker 1: an easy schedule and win a lot of games, and

1060
00:58:18,880 --> 00:58:21,240
Speaker 1: we go that team's pretty good. You can also have

1061
00:58:21,280 --> 00:58:23,400
Speaker 1: an easy schedule and win a lot of games. I

1062
00:58:23,400 --> 00:58:27,560
Speaker 1: don't know, right, So I think we do a pretty

1063
00:58:27,560 --> 00:58:31,960
Speaker 1: good job at factoring that in nowadays, massive fan like

1064
00:58:32,040 --> 00:58:35,439
Speaker 1: this guy, you always provide excellence, like guy this, guess

1065
00:58:35,720 --> 00:58:38,200
Speaker 1: this guy smart. Do you think the Bucks should move

1066
00:58:38,200 --> 00:58:40,439
Speaker 1: off Todd at the end of the year. You don't

1067
00:58:40,440 --> 00:58:42,280
Speaker 1: necessarily have to fire him, but move him to the

1068
00:58:42,280 --> 00:58:45,200
Speaker 1: front office and bring in new blood. He lacks intensity

1069
00:58:45,320 --> 00:58:48,160
Speaker 1: and is often out coached his unit. The defense is

1070
00:58:48,240 --> 00:58:50,920
Speaker 1: usually atrocious and big games. I think they should have

1071
00:58:50,920 --> 00:58:54,880
Speaker 1: promoted Liam last year, but at this point just bringing

1072
00:58:54,880 --> 00:58:58,080
Speaker 1: the best offensive coach and clean house. I think it's

1073
00:58:58,120 --> 00:59:03,200
Speaker 1: easy to say, and I think we kind of overanalyze Todd,

1074
00:59:03,320 --> 00:59:07,280
Speaker 1: who I was around for a little bit in Philadelphia.

1075
00:59:07,320 --> 00:59:10,800
Speaker 1: He's like his personality's personality, like you don't need to

1076
00:59:10,840 --> 00:59:12,920
Speaker 1: be like Andy rees On, a yeller and a screamer,

1077
00:59:13,360 --> 00:59:17,520
Speaker 1: Like not everyone has to be some crazy Sean McVay, right,

1078
00:59:18,440 --> 00:59:20,240
Speaker 1: I do think it's fair though to question, like he

1079
00:59:20,320 --> 00:59:22,800
Speaker 1: is a defensive guy. Now they've had some injuries. I

1080
00:59:22,800 --> 00:59:25,560
Speaker 1: do think when they're fully healthy, they're pretty good on defense.

1081
00:59:26,160 --> 00:59:29,720
Speaker 1: But it's not as easy to go, well, we should

1082
00:59:29,720 --> 00:59:31,760
Speaker 1: have fired him last year. For Liam Cohen, that happens

1083
00:59:31,760 --> 00:59:34,480
Speaker 1: all the time, and that guy never gets fired. I

1084
00:59:34,480 --> 00:59:36,680
Speaker 1: mean it happens all the time throughout just like the

1085
00:59:36,760 --> 00:59:38,800
Speaker 1: last twenty five years. Like, God, we should have fired

1086
00:59:38,800 --> 00:59:41,560
Speaker 1: that guy. Just made Sean Payton the coach. No one

1087
00:59:41,600 --> 00:59:46,040
Speaker 1: ever does that ever, you know, So it's like I have,

1088
00:59:48,200 --> 00:59:50,560
Speaker 1: like I understand, like I don't even think that's a

1089
00:59:50,680 --> 00:59:54,240
Speaker 1: logical scenario to play out, because it's you don't go

1090
00:59:54,280 --> 00:59:56,840
Speaker 1: to the playoffs back to back years and just get

1091
00:59:56,840 --> 00:59:59,240
Speaker 1: shit canned. For Liam Cohen, who's never been a head coach.

1092
00:59:59,360 --> 01:00:01,640
Speaker 1: Hell pretty sure he's only called plays in the NFL

1093
01:00:01,680 --> 01:00:03,960
Speaker 1: that that was his first year calling plays, so it'd

1094
01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:06,920
Speaker 1: be a pretty bold move. But yeah, looking back, I

1095
01:00:06,920 --> 01:00:10,200
Speaker 1: think if you could choose li Liam's, I mean, they've

1096
01:00:10,240 --> 01:00:12,840
Speaker 1: had some The game against the Texans obviously was desperate,

1097
01:00:12,880 --> 01:00:14,640
Speaker 1: but I think it's very saying like Liam Gollan looks

1098
01:00:14,640 --> 01:00:19,120
Speaker 1: pretty good. So yeah, I think in this hypothetical world,

1099
01:00:19,280 --> 01:00:21,360
Speaker 1: if you could do a redo like it's it's easy

1100
01:00:21,400 --> 01:00:24,760
Speaker 1: to say. Now. I just think that Jason Light's one

1101
01:00:24,800 --> 01:00:27,160
Speaker 1: of the best gms in the league. Your team's gonna

1102
01:00:27,160 --> 01:00:30,200
Speaker 1: have a lot of talent when healthy moving forward. And

1103
01:00:30,320 --> 01:00:34,400
Speaker 1: I think the question mark also Jason Light in the GM,

1104
01:00:34,480 --> 01:00:37,680
Speaker 1: like ultimately to extend a coach. You know, I went

1105
01:00:37,720 --> 01:00:40,280
Speaker 1: on that rant about trades when it's like, well, the

1106
01:00:40,320 --> 01:00:43,160
Speaker 1: ownership has to now, I mean a trade idea is

1107
01:00:43,640 --> 01:00:46,960
Speaker 1: the coach an extension with a coach or a GM

1108
01:00:47,040 --> 01:00:52,760
Speaker 1: like that is on ownership. How come it's okay for

1109
01:00:52,880 --> 01:00:56,920
Speaker 1: teams to squeak out a win like the Broncos. How

1110
01:00:56,960 --> 01:00:59,400
Speaker 1: they win always last minute and win ugly. But the

1111
01:00:59,440 --> 01:01:02,800
Speaker 1: Eagles win ugly and the sky is falling. Well, your

1112
01:01:02,840 --> 01:01:06,040
Speaker 1: standards higher in Philadelphia. You've been to two Super Bowls

1113
01:01:06,080 --> 01:01:08,640
Speaker 1: in the last three years. You are the defending champs.

1114
01:01:09,400 --> 01:01:13,440
Speaker 1: You blasted the Chiefs in the Super Bowl. You obviously Washington,

1115
01:01:13,560 --> 01:01:16,040
Speaker 1: you treated them like you know, your little brother in

1116
01:01:16,080 --> 01:01:19,400
Speaker 1: the NFC Championship game. And you're the best team in

1117
01:01:19,400 --> 01:01:22,160
Speaker 1: your division by a country mile. You're paying a lot

1118
01:01:22,200 --> 01:01:24,960
Speaker 1: of money for the team. So the standard is really

1119
01:01:25,000 --> 01:01:28,360
Speaker 1: really high, right, No different than the Chiefs. We were

1120
01:01:28,480 --> 01:01:31,040
Speaker 1: nitpicking the Chiefs last year they were en route to

1121
01:01:31,200 --> 01:01:33,800
Speaker 1: fifteen and two in the number one overall seat. It's

1122
01:01:33,800 --> 01:01:35,960
Speaker 1: like all they can't They could barely win these games.

1123
01:01:36,200 --> 01:01:39,480
Speaker 1: That's part of the deal when you're the best, like

1124
01:01:39,640 --> 01:01:42,440
Speaker 1: you get nitpicked, right, fair or not. But at the

1125
01:01:42,520 --> 01:01:44,080
Speaker 1: end of the day, you're eight and two. Who cares.

1126
01:01:44,280 --> 01:01:46,440
Speaker 1: Your offense isn't that good. It doesn't matter. The Chiefs

1127
01:01:46,440 --> 01:01:48,520
Speaker 1: offense wasn't that good last year either. It didn't matter.

1128
01:01:48,720 --> 01:01:51,640
Speaker 1: If your defense is gonna play like this, you got

1129
01:01:51,640 --> 01:01:53,400
Speaker 1: a pretty good chance to go back to the Super Bowl,

1130
01:01:53,600 --> 01:01:56,040
Speaker 1: especially if you can get home field. The Lions can't

1131
01:01:56,040 --> 01:01:59,160
Speaker 1: play outdoors. Are the Packers gonna beat you? No chance?

1132
01:01:59,480 --> 01:02:03,320
Speaker 1: The forty nine all their players are injured. Sam Darnold's

1133
01:02:03,320 --> 01:02:05,400
Speaker 1: gonna go into Philadelphia and beat you? And Vic Fangio

1134
01:02:05,600 --> 01:02:07,880
Speaker 1: how our time? Seeing that, I guess the Rams could.

1135
01:02:08,400 --> 01:02:11,800
Speaker 1: The Rams are the one team that their weakness is

1136
01:02:11,840 --> 01:02:15,920
Speaker 1: the secondary and your problem is your passing game doesn't

1137
01:02:15,960 --> 01:02:19,240
Speaker 1: really work. So I think that would be the one

1138
01:02:19,280 --> 01:02:21,640
Speaker 1: team that would make me nervous if I was an

1139
01:02:21,680 --> 01:02:25,360
Speaker 1: Eagles fan. But eight and two were the defending champs.

1140
01:02:26,480 --> 01:02:29,000
Speaker 1: We're gonna like our chances to go back, so I'd

1141
01:02:29,040 --> 01:02:33,160
Speaker 1: feel pretty good about it. I want your take on

1142
01:02:33,200 --> 01:02:35,640
Speaker 1: my Lions. Do you think we can ever really win

1143
01:02:35,680 --> 01:02:38,360
Speaker 1: a Super Bowl? With Jared Goff? I like him, but

1144
01:02:38,440 --> 01:02:40,160
Speaker 1: I can unsee the fact that when you put him

1145
01:02:40,160 --> 01:02:43,600
Speaker 1: outside in thirty five degree weather, he looks completely out

1146
01:02:43,640 --> 01:02:47,120
Speaker 1: of sorts. He's wearing two gloves and a turtleneck like

1147
01:02:47,160 --> 01:02:52,080
Speaker 1: he's in fucking Alaska. Also the two gloves, I'm sorry

1148
01:02:52,320 --> 01:02:55,920
Speaker 1: you wear two gloves like it's hard for me. I

1149
01:02:55,920 --> 01:02:58,880
Speaker 1: think someone texted me last night. Did Peyton Manning when

1150
01:02:58,920 --> 01:03:01,840
Speaker 1: he got older? Maybe when he was younger? I need

1151
01:03:01,840 --> 01:03:03,560
Speaker 1: to google that. Did he wear two gloves against the

1152
01:03:03,600 --> 01:03:07,440
Speaker 1: Patriots in a couple of those games? Obviously Goff one

1153
01:03:07,480 --> 01:03:09,840
Speaker 1: of the Knoxes, He's got smaller hands. But I guess

1154
01:03:09,840 --> 01:03:13,400
Speaker 1: the question is also if you feel any sort of pressure?

1155
01:03:13,440 --> 01:03:18,320
Speaker 1: He looks shook the entire game, the John Morton situations disaster.

1156
01:03:18,440 --> 01:03:22,080
Speaker 1: Did our window close with Ben Johnson? And when he left?

1157
01:03:23,560 --> 01:03:26,200
Speaker 1: I think you could win a Super Bowl if your

1158
01:03:26,280 --> 01:03:30,240
Speaker 1: team is healthy and you're hosting games in Detroit. Is

1159
01:03:30,360 --> 01:03:33,200
Speaker 1: Jared GoF going to go on the road to Philadelphia

1160
01:03:33,600 --> 01:03:38,320
Speaker 1: to Green Bay and win games, probably not. Right. Could

1161
01:03:38,400 --> 01:03:40,760
Speaker 1: he go on the road to la in the dome

1162
01:03:41,000 --> 01:03:43,280
Speaker 1: and win a game, yes. Could he go on the

1163
01:03:43,320 --> 01:03:46,480
Speaker 1: road to Seattle in a driving rainstorm and win a game?

1164
01:03:46,520 --> 01:03:50,480
Speaker 1: Probably not. So weather is a major factor with him.

1165
01:03:51,080 --> 01:03:54,720
Speaker 1: But you guys playing a dome and last year you

1166
01:03:54,840 --> 01:03:58,400
Speaker 1: lost at home and he didn't play well. So he's

1167
01:03:58,440 --> 01:04:01,640
Speaker 1: not a perfect player, right, He's a really he's like

1168
01:04:01,720 --> 01:04:06,600
Speaker 1: the best version of Kirk Cousins. Right. But the problem

1169
01:04:06,640 --> 01:04:10,240
Speaker 1: with Kirk Cousins is once you start hitting him. Kirk Cousins,

1170
01:04:10,680 --> 01:04:12,920
Speaker 1: you know, has won a bunch of games when not

1171
01:04:13,080 --> 01:04:15,720
Speaker 1: this version, but when he was younger, Right, But you

1172
01:04:15,760 --> 01:04:18,919
Speaker 1: start hitting him, there's no ad lib. That's the one

1173
01:04:18,960 --> 01:04:21,200
Speaker 1: thing that all these quarterbacks have. Like if you just

1174
01:04:21,200 --> 01:04:24,720
Speaker 1: look at like the top fifteen quarterbacks, they all can

1175
01:04:24,960 --> 01:04:28,360
Speaker 1: move and throw. Some do it better, you know, Lamar Josh,

1176
01:04:28,760 --> 01:04:32,720
Speaker 1: but like the Herbert's, the Mahomes, even like Party you

1177
01:04:32,760 --> 01:04:35,680
Speaker 1: know Dak who I'm recording this before Monday night football

1178
01:04:35,800 --> 01:04:37,520
Speaker 1: is obviously, with some of the injuries, is not the

1179
01:04:37,520 --> 01:04:39,800
Speaker 1: same athlete. I gotta have you be able to move

1180
01:04:39,840 --> 01:04:41,600
Speaker 1: and throw. If you can't move and throw, I'm kind

1181
01:04:41,600 --> 01:04:44,240
Speaker 1: of out on you now. Jared Goff is a good

1182
01:04:44,240 --> 01:04:48,320
Speaker 1: packet pocket quarterback, but he's really benefited. Your offensive line

1183
01:04:48,320 --> 01:04:50,800
Speaker 1: was elite and now your offensive line is not quite

1184
01:04:50,840 --> 01:04:55,360
Speaker 1: as good. Laporta is out. He can't like he's not

1185
01:04:55,480 --> 01:04:57,960
Speaker 1: a guy that can just carry the operation, and I

1186
01:04:58,000 --> 01:05:02,040
Speaker 1: think a huge part of that is one His limitations

1187
01:05:02,040 --> 01:05:05,400
Speaker 1: are his limitations, but he brings nothing to the table

1188
01:05:05,440 --> 01:05:08,640
Speaker 1: with like extending plays. And then the cold weather, Like

1189
01:05:09,000 --> 01:05:11,560
Speaker 1: I mentioned this on Sunday Night, it is one hundred

1190
01:05:11,560 --> 01:05:14,520
Speaker 1: percent a thing from California. We do not like cold

1191
01:05:14,560 --> 01:05:17,440
Speaker 1: weather because we're not used to it. And you go, well,

1192
01:05:17,480 --> 01:05:20,560
Speaker 1: he's lived in Detroit now several years. True, but I

1193
01:05:20,560 --> 01:05:23,400
Speaker 1: would imagine that once it gets cold, they practice inside

1194
01:05:23,400 --> 01:05:25,880
Speaker 1: and obviously they play inside, and then a lot of

1195
01:05:25,880 --> 01:05:28,360
Speaker 1: their games, all the home games and even the Minnesota

1196
01:05:28,400 --> 01:05:32,240
Speaker 1: game is inside. If you remember a couple of years ago,

1197
01:05:32,640 --> 01:05:35,600
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers last game in Green Bay Golf actually played

1198
01:05:35,600 --> 01:05:37,400
Speaker 1: pretty well outside in that Green Bay game that was

1199
01:05:37,440 --> 01:05:41,360
Speaker 1: pretty cold. Do you think the Patriots will do well

1200
01:05:41,360 --> 01:05:44,840
Speaker 1: in the playoffs assuming we win the division? Well, if

1201
01:05:44,880 --> 01:05:49,080
Speaker 1: you win the division, I would say you have, I

1202
01:05:49,120 --> 01:05:52,880
Speaker 1: mean a pretty decent chance, maybe around fifty percent, to

1203
01:05:52,960 --> 01:05:56,080
Speaker 1: be the number one seed. I mean, winning the division

1204
01:05:56,080 --> 01:05:59,680
Speaker 1: for you is probably fourteen wins. Now, I don't exactly

1205
01:05:59,680 --> 01:06:02,439
Speaker 1: know how the tie breakers would go. Let's just say,

1206
01:06:02,840 --> 01:06:07,960
Speaker 1: in a hypothetical world, you Denver and Indy are all

1207
01:06:08,000 --> 01:06:10,720
Speaker 1: thirteen and four. Let's say the Bills too, thirty. You

1208
01:06:10,760 --> 01:06:12,400
Speaker 1: guys are all thirteen and four, but you win the

1209
01:06:12,440 --> 01:06:14,720
Speaker 1: division the Bills don't, so it's just between I don't

1210
01:06:14,760 --> 01:06:17,440
Speaker 1: know how the tie breakers would work. I think when

1211
01:06:17,440 --> 01:06:21,320
Speaker 1: it's a three team it goes to like conference Again,

1212
01:06:21,400 --> 01:06:23,960
Speaker 1: we're a little far away from that right now, but

1213
01:06:24,160 --> 01:06:26,200
Speaker 1: there's a big difference that that number one seed. You

1214
01:06:26,200 --> 01:06:28,000
Speaker 1: just have to win two games. So if you just

1215
01:06:28,000 --> 01:06:31,000
Speaker 1: win one, you're in the AFC Championship game at home. Now,

1216
01:06:31,000 --> 01:06:33,000
Speaker 1: if you got to win three, that gets a little

1217
01:06:33,040 --> 01:06:37,240
Speaker 1: more difficult, especially if in like the first round, you

1218
01:06:37,240 --> 01:06:40,320
Speaker 1: know you're playing. It also depends who you're playing, Like,

1219
01:06:40,520 --> 01:06:43,360
Speaker 1: would I like the Patriots first, the Jags? Yeah, I

1220
01:06:43,480 --> 01:06:45,800
Speaker 1: like your shot, Patriots first, the Colts like, yeah, I

1221
01:06:45,880 --> 01:06:48,720
Speaker 1: think you'd have a decent shot. But if you get

1222
01:06:48,760 --> 01:06:52,720
Speaker 1: like the two seed, and let's say the seventh seed

1223
01:06:53,120 --> 01:06:56,480
Speaker 1: is the Chiefs or the Texans, like, that's a pretty

1224
01:06:56,520 --> 01:06:59,960
Speaker 1: tough defense for Drake, so it's like it would be

1225
01:07:00,080 --> 01:07:03,600
Speaker 1: possible for you to lose in the first round. With

1226
01:07:03,760 --> 01:07:07,560
Speaker 1: Miles Garrett having another huge sack day against the Ravens Sunday,

1227
01:07:07,960 --> 01:07:11,480
Speaker 1: he has fifteen total sacks and it's about to be

1228
01:07:12,000 --> 01:07:15,200
Speaker 1: week twelve, assuming he stays healthy, is he a lock

1229
01:07:15,320 --> 01:07:18,760
Speaker 1: for the Defensive Player of the Year. I'm bad with awards.

1230
01:07:19,760 --> 01:07:22,320
Speaker 1: I sometimes I guess I don't look at him like

1231
01:07:22,360 --> 01:07:24,840
Speaker 1: the people that vote on them. I think it's been

1232
01:07:24,920 --> 01:07:27,920
Speaker 1: pretty clear he's the best defensive player in the league

1233
01:07:28,000 --> 01:07:32,320
Speaker 1: for I don't know, going on five ish years. Ever

1234
01:07:32,360 --> 01:07:35,800
Speaker 1: since Aaron Donald. I guess Aaron Donald's been he quit

1235
01:07:35,840 --> 01:07:38,400
Speaker 1: a couple of years, and even that last year wasn't

1236
01:07:38,440 --> 01:07:41,080
Speaker 1: quite peak Aaron Donald, but it basically went for a

1237
01:07:41,160 --> 01:07:44,080
Speaker 1: decent long stretch. It was like Khalil and Aaron Donald

1238
01:07:44,120 --> 01:07:46,920
Speaker 1: were pretty equal. Then Aaron Donald was like clearly the

1239
01:07:46,960 --> 01:07:49,840
Speaker 1: best player, and then now for the twenty twenty he's

1240
01:07:49,880 --> 01:07:52,400
Speaker 1: like Miles Garretts the best player. When they had the

1241
01:07:52,440 --> 01:07:55,520
Speaker 1: joint practice this training camp against the Eagles and Jordan

1242
01:07:55,600 --> 01:07:58,640
Speaker 1: Mylotto was like the entire offensive line was in the

1243
01:07:58,640 --> 01:08:01,480
Speaker 1: film room and we were just laughing. We're like, is

1244
01:08:01,520 --> 01:08:05,520
Speaker 1: this guy human? What am I supposed to do? There

1245
01:08:05,520 --> 01:08:08,800
Speaker 1: are certain ways certain players talk about other players where

1246
01:08:08,840 --> 01:08:12,120
Speaker 1: you just go, this guy is in a different There's

1247
01:08:12,160 --> 01:08:15,120
Speaker 1: a reason that every guy in their fifties and sixties

1248
01:08:15,160 --> 01:08:17,599
Speaker 1: that you see on Instagram that played in the NBA

1249
01:08:17,680 --> 01:08:19,920
Speaker 1: in the eighties and nineties that tell a story about

1250
01:08:19,960 --> 01:08:22,479
Speaker 1: Michael Jordan. They all have a consistent theme. They talk

1251
01:08:22,520 --> 01:08:26,519
Speaker 1: about him like a mythological figure. Miles Garrett is clearly

1252
01:08:26,560 --> 01:08:29,800
Speaker 1: the best defensive player, so I thought Cleveland should have

1253
01:08:29,800 --> 01:08:32,120
Speaker 1: traded him. I mean, it's like you're losing all these games.

1254
01:08:32,160 --> 01:08:36,720
Speaker 1: You could have traded them. What would the Lions or

1255
01:08:36,760 --> 01:08:41,160
Speaker 1: the Eagles, or you know, the Packers because you'd rather

1256
01:08:41,200 --> 01:08:43,800
Speaker 1: have Miles Garrett than Michael Parsons. What would they have

1257
01:08:43,920 --> 01:08:47,519
Speaker 1: traded for Miles Garrett? Now he's older than Micah, but

1258
01:08:48,680 --> 01:08:52,479
Speaker 1: you're at minimum getting like three elite years, like Hall

1259
01:08:52,560 --> 01:08:56,120
Speaker 1: of Fame dominant years. And if you look at Reggie White,

1260
01:08:56,240 --> 01:08:58,360
Speaker 1: who signed with the Packers, I think at like thirty

1261
01:08:58,400 --> 01:09:00,720
Speaker 1: one thirty two years old, went on to have like

1262
01:09:00,720 --> 01:09:02,880
Speaker 1: a Hall of Fame career with the Packers. So if

1263
01:09:02,880 --> 01:09:05,200
Speaker 1: you go, hey, if we take five years, would you

1264
01:09:05,200 --> 01:09:07,559
Speaker 1: trade two to ones, two two's and like a player.

1265
01:09:08,920 --> 01:09:13,960
Speaker 1: I just think they gotta regret that one. Now. I

1266
01:09:13,960 --> 01:09:16,479
Speaker 1: think if you're a fan of not the Eagles, it

1267
01:09:16,520 --> 01:09:18,960
Speaker 1: does feel like the Eagles would have ended up with them.

1268
01:09:19,360 --> 01:09:22,599
Speaker 1: So uh, if you if you aren't an Eagles fan,

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01:09:22,880 --> 01:09:24,679
Speaker 1: maybe like, I'm glad they kept him. I I wouldn't

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01:09:24,680 --> 01:09:27,360
Speaker 1: want to see him because we're seeing the Eagles with Jordan. Uh,

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01:09:27,560 --> 01:09:38,120
Speaker 1: with Phillips, You're like, imagine that if that was Miles Garrett.

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01:09:45,040 --> 01:09:47,680
Speaker 1: Not really a mailback question, but I was listening to

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01:09:47,920 --> 01:09:51,400
Speaker 1: Collins podcast and there is a no free ads here

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01:09:51,600 --> 01:09:55,120
Speaker 1: blank ad in the podcast and I know you just

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01:09:55,200 --> 01:09:58,559
Speaker 1: brought on zone pouches. Does that work? Because they're technically

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01:09:58,600 --> 01:10:01,000
Speaker 1: two different podcasts there, we're still on the same feed,

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01:10:01,080 --> 01:10:03,040
Speaker 1: so I was curious. Yeah, it's like a it's like

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01:10:03,080 --> 01:10:07,320
Speaker 1: a different business entity, right, My podcast is separate for

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01:10:07,360 --> 01:10:10,920
Speaker 1: his podcast, like where I might have there are people

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01:10:10,960 --> 01:10:14,639
Speaker 1: on the volume that have Again I'm not gonna say

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01:10:15,080 --> 01:10:19,320
Speaker 1: the name of this sponsor because I have a sponsor

1282
01:10:19,320 --> 01:10:22,400
Speaker 1: in the same category that is a different company and

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01:10:23,200 --> 01:10:26,439
Speaker 1: we will do business. So I mean I Jerry Jones

1284
01:10:26,520 --> 01:10:29,840
Speaker 1: was once asked I remember they said, why did you,

1285
01:10:30,400 --> 01:10:34,200
Speaker 1: why'd you name the stadium at and T And he said,

1286
01:10:34,320 --> 01:10:36,880
Speaker 1: because they offered. I forget the numbers, like you know,

1287
01:10:36,960 --> 01:10:40,719
Speaker 1: ten years, two hundred and fifty million dollars. I'm a horror.

1288
01:10:41,760 --> 01:10:46,040
Speaker 1: We're businessmen. I mean that's people offer more money, That's

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01:10:46,080 --> 01:10:48,719
Speaker 1: why we take them. And the other thing is Zone

1290
01:10:48,760 --> 01:10:50,840
Speaker 1: was supposed to come on my podcast maybe a couple

1291
01:10:50,840 --> 01:10:52,400
Speaker 1: of years ago. We started talking to him and that

1292
01:10:52,520 --> 01:10:55,400
Speaker 1: they sent me a bunch and I've been I've used

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01:10:55,439 --> 01:10:58,920
Speaker 1: the product like I I when I talk about most

1294
01:10:58,920 --> 01:11:01,840
Speaker 1: of this stuff, especially our big sponsors, like game Time

1295
01:11:01,920 --> 01:11:04,360
Speaker 1: at every event, whether it's a concert or a game

1296
01:11:04,400 --> 01:11:06,479
Speaker 1: I've been to over the last two years, I have

1297
01:11:06,640 --> 01:11:10,559
Speaker 1: used game Time just like these pouches, I'm sucking them

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01:11:10,600 --> 01:11:13,800
Speaker 1: down for really, I mean consistently now a while. I'm

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01:11:13,800 --> 01:11:16,080
Speaker 1: pretty sure I got a huge package from them. I

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01:11:16,080 --> 01:11:18,320
Speaker 1: don't know if it was late twenty twenty three or

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01:11:18,320 --> 01:11:21,479
Speaker 1: early twenty twenty four. Like I'm pretty adamant. I try

1302
01:11:21,479 --> 01:11:25,559
Speaker 1: to work with things that I use because it makes

1303
01:11:25,560 --> 01:11:28,840
Speaker 1: it pretty easy easy to sell. But we can sell

1304
01:11:28,880 --> 01:11:32,880
Speaker 1: like I'm open for business on this podcast, regardless what

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01:11:33,439 --> 01:11:36,679
Speaker 1: a category that Colin might have, unless it gets sold

1306
01:11:36,760 --> 01:11:40,960
Speaker 1: like hard rock bet gets sold on throughout the shows, right,

1307
01:11:41,040 --> 01:11:43,479
Speaker 1: So that's that's just one that's kind of getting an

1308
01:11:43,600 --> 01:11:47,760
Speaker 1: umbrella treatment. But not every advertiser is looking for that.

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01:11:47,960 --> 01:11:52,479
Speaker 1: So I'm just rightfully so, like I don't get BMW ads. No,

1310
01:11:52,560 --> 01:11:55,200
Speaker 1: granted I don't drive a BMW, but you know colin

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01:11:55,360 --> 01:12:00,799
Speaker 1: advertising with stuff that I would, you know, no problem

1312
01:12:00,840 --> 01:12:02,240
Speaker 1: kind of in the business. We're looking for a new

1313
01:12:02,240 --> 01:12:08,760
Speaker 1: car for but it has to be big though. Hope

1314
01:12:08,760 --> 01:12:11,719
Speaker 1: everything as well. But what are your thoughts about players

1315
01:12:11,760 --> 01:12:15,880
Speaker 1: spitting on each other? Since when did this start being cool?

1316
01:12:16,080 --> 01:12:18,680
Speaker 1: Do you feel jamar Ch should be fined or suspended.

1317
01:12:19,840 --> 01:12:23,160
Speaker 1: I've always defended players when they get into it with

1318
01:12:23,200 --> 01:12:26,120
Speaker 1: the ref and get technicals in basketball or get a

1319
01:12:26,120 --> 01:12:30,840
Speaker 1: personal foul penalty in football for like screaming obscenities like

1320
01:12:31,000 --> 01:12:34,719
Speaker 1: this is this is their livelihood and if it fails,

1321
01:12:35,200 --> 01:12:37,840
Speaker 1: they will get cut. They will get put on the

1322
01:12:37,880 --> 01:12:41,240
Speaker 1: unemployment line. And that's my always issues with officiating. I

1323
01:12:41,280 --> 01:12:43,479
Speaker 1: never feel like they get thrown to the unemployment line.

1324
01:12:43,800 --> 01:12:46,679
Speaker 1: I feel like they can screw up. I saw this clip.

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01:12:47,560 --> 01:12:49,719
Speaker 1: I don't know when it was from probably this weekend.

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01:12:50,240 --> 01:12:54,599
Speaker 1: The Utah Jazz got a technical foul because a guy

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01:12:54,720 --> 01:12:58,160
Speaker 1: fell on you know, on the court, so like the

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01:12:58,200 --> 01:13:01,759
Speaker 1: ball two ball boys ran up with kind of their swifter,

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01:13:02,120 --> 01:13:06,360
Speaker 1: you know, the towel thing to take away all the

1330
01:13:06,439 --> 01:13:10,080
Speaker 1: sweat from the floor. And the Jazz got a tech

1331
01:13:10,160 --> 01:13:13,400
Speaker 1: and their coach went bananas. He said, did we just

1332
01:13:13,400 --> 01:13:17,719
Speaker 1: get a technical for delay of game because the ball

1333
01:13:17,760 --> 01:13:21,200
Speaker 1: boys came out to dry the floor? And Mark Davis,

1334
01:13:21,200 --> 01:13:22,760
Speaker 1: who is a complete clown. I mean, some of these

1335
01:13:22,800 --> 01:13:25,840
Speaker 1: officials in the NBA, no wonder the DOJ's all over

1336
01:13:25,840 --> 01:13:28,120
Speaker 1: the NBA's ass. I mean, talk about shady shit. It's

1337
01:13:28,120 --> 01:13:31,559
Speaker 1: been going on forever. But that was I would turn

1338
01:13:31,600 --> 01:13:34,000
Speaker 1: these people into the authorities like that that something doesn't

1339
01:13:34,000 --> 01:13:38,280
Speaker 1: add up there. But if Draymond's got a lot of these, right, listen,

1340
01:13:38,360 --> 01:13:41,280
Speaker 1: Draymond deserves a lot of technical fouls when he's hitting

1341
01:13:41,280 --> 01:13:44,040
Speaker 1: people in the throat or kicking their you know, stirring

1342
01:13:44,120 --> 01:13:46,679
Speaker 1: them or whatever. But if I just yell swear words

1343
01:13:46,680 --> 01:13:49,160
Speaker 1: at you, I'm sorry that this is There's a lot

1344
01:13:49,160 --> 01:13:51,240
Speaker 1: of money on the line for all this stuff. This

1345
01:13:51,280 --> 01:13:54,200
Speaker 1: is not high school football. This is not you know,

1346
01:13:54,280 --> 01:13:57,360
Speaker 1: junior high softball. We're not teaching life lessons here. There

1347
01:13:57,400 --> 01:14:01,160
Speaker 1: are no life lessons being taught in professional sports, So swearing,

1348
01:14:01,280 --> 01:14:05,040
Speaker 1: I hate when people get in trouble for that. To me,

1349
01:14:05,160 --> 01:14:10,000
Speaker 1: the spitting thing is like I don't even I don't

1350
01:14:10,000 --> 01:14:12,559
Speaker 1: even know how to categorize it. It should be an

1351
01:14:12,640 --> 01:14:17,960
Speaker 1: auto suspension if you spit on another player from another team,

1352
01:14:18,320 --> 01:14:22,000
Speaker 1: like to me, the things that people get fined for, like,

1353
01:14:22,040 --> 01:14:24,840
Speaker 1: you know, he tackled him a little hard. He uh

1354
01:14:25,320 --> 01:14:27,920
Speaker 1: he hip drop tackled. I saw someone got a hip

1355
01:14:27,960 --> 01:14:31,160
Speaker 1: drop tackle and it definitely was not a hip drop tackle. Like, no,

1356
01:14:31,360 --> 01:14:35,719
Speaker 1: it's just a tackle. You should if I haven't even

1357
01:14:35,760 --> 01:14:37,800
Speaker 1: I refused like some of these stories, I just don't

1358
01:14:37,800 --> 01:14:40,120
Speaker 1: have the mental capacity for. So I didn't like see

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01:14:40,160 --> 01:14:42,400
Speaker 1: the breakdown of the video, but I did see a headline.

1360
01:14:42,400 --> 01:14:46,280
Speaker 1: It's pretty clear that the replay shows him spitting on him.

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01:14:46,720 --> 01:14:48,760
Speaker 1: And if Jamar Cha is spitting on Jayalen Ramsey, like

1362
01:14:48,760 --> 01:14:51,000
Speaker 1: he should get to spent the next game, no pay, Like,

1363
01:14:51,040 --> 01:14:53,720
Speaker 1: that's just that that that cannot be tolerated. And I

1364
01:14:53,760 --> 01:14:56,799
Speaker 1: would say the same thing that that's any level of football,

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01:14:56,840 --> 01:15:00,000
Speaker 1: whether it's college, whether it's junior peewee's, whether it's hig

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01:15:00,080 --> 01:15:03,120
Speaker 1: school football, you spit on another person. You just get

1367
01:15:03,200 --> 01:15:06,400
Speaker 1: spinted like I'm sorry. Even it's like, hey, man, I

1368
01:15:06,479 --> 01:15:09,160
Speaker 1: didn't mean too My emotions got the best, yes called

1369
01:15:09,160 --> 01:15:11,120
Speaker 1: emotional control, and if you don't have it, you get

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01:15:11,120 --> 01:15:14,280
Speaker 1: penalizes for it. So like, I have no problem being

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01:15:14,320 --> 01:15:18,840
Speaker 1: a little over over aggressive when it comes to penalizing

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01:15:19,400 --> 01:15:24,160
Speaker 1: spitting on another player on an opposing team. What do

1373
01:15:24,160 --> 01:15:26,680
Speaker 1: you think is wrong with the Chiefs? Lifelong fan live

1374
01:15:26,680 --> 01:15:29,240
Speaker 1: in Kansas City. Despite my profile pick, I'm twenty seven.

1375
01:15:29,320 --> 01:15:33,280
Speaker 1: That's my dad. I think it's Mahomes. I can't really

1376
01:15:33,320 --> 01:15:35,800
Speaker 1: say this to my friends, but like, dude has not

1377
01:15:35,880 --> 01:15:38,760
Speaker 1: been clutch at all this year, and the defense has

1378
01:15:38,760 --> 01:15:41,120
Speaker 1: picked us up for two years, so I'm not blaming them.

1379
01:15:41,520 --> 01:15:44,360
Speaker 1: It just has not been coming through. Do you agree? Also,

1380
01:15:44,520 --> 01:15:47,439
Speaker 1: if you watch the game, he overthrows every deep ball.

1381
01:15:47,600 --> 01:15:50,000
Speaker 1: He's been overthrowing him for a while. I feel like

1382
01:15:50,040 --> 01:15:52,880
Speaker 1: his deep ball accuracy has been off now, even going

1383
01:15:52,920 --> 01:15:55,400
Speaker 1: back to last year. But I'm with the overthrows worthy.

1384
01:15:56,040 --> 01:15:58,600
Speaker 1: He just he missed his some throws now and the

1385
01:15:58,640 --> 01:16:00,679
Speaker 1: throw that he the pick he had in the end zone,

1386
01:16:00,800 --> 01:16:03,000
Speaker 1: he wasn't good. I mean, he just it's okay to

1387
01:16:03,040 --> 01:16:07,080
Speaker 1: be like he wasn't that good. But he here's a reality,

1388
01:16:08,160 --> 01:16:11,200
Speaker 1: like Josh Allen Lamar Jackson have been objectively better than

1389
01:16:11,240 --> 01:16:14,320
Speaker 1: him the last couple of years, right, Lamar had that

1390
01:16:14,360 --> 01:16:17,639
Speaker 1: stretch was clearly better and Josh Allen is a better

1391
01:16:17,680 --> 01:16:20,360
Speaker 1: player right now, but he's got him in the playoffs.

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01:16:21,000 --> 01:16:24,280
Speaker 1: So it's like when it's all mattered, and both those

1393
01:16:24,320 --> 01:16:27,720
Speaker 1: guys have had their opportunities and they could not get

1394
01:16:27,720 --> 01:16:30,800
Speaker 1: it done. So he's had that over them and he

1395
01:16:30,880 --> 01:16:34,160
Speaker 1: benefits a lot from fantastic coaching. But yeah, he can

1396
01:16:34,200 --> 01:16:37,320
Speaker 1: be a little hit or miss at times, and yesterday

1397
01:16:37,400 --> 01:16:40,040
Speaker 1: was not his finest hour. Had some throws that were

1398
01:16:40,040 --> 01:16:41,920
Speaker 1: there to be made and did not make him and

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01:16:42,000 --> 01:16:45,880
Speaker 1: Bow did. Now, if you I'm not gonna write him off.

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01:16:46,040 --> 01:16:49,120
Speaker 1: And I'm a big believer in when you build up

1401
01:16:49,120 --> 01:16:52,120
Speaker 1: a resume, some people get the benefit of doubt. But

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01:16:52,800 --> 01:16:54,960
Speaker 1: you know, it's he's had some moments over the last

1403
01:16:55,000 --> 01:16:57,000
Speaker 1: couple of years that have been a little up and down.

1404
01:16:58,040 --> 01:17:00,160
Speaker 1: He also comes through at times, but he's at some

1405
01:17:00,240 --> 01:17:04,400
Speaker 1: killer moments and yesterday he had some killer moments. Which

1406
01:17:04,400 --> 01:17:07,400
Speaker 1: is crazy because the two guys that really came to play,

1407
01:17:07,840 --> 01:17:10,240
Speaker 1: I mean Kelsey and Chris Jones were elite. It's like, hey,

1408
01:17:10,600 --> 01:17:12,960
Speaker 1: we got three Hall of famers on this team, right,

1409
01:17:13,479 --> 01:17:16,920
Speaker 1: Travis Kelce, Patrick Mahomes and Chris Jones. Two of them

1410
01:17:16,920 --> 01:17:19,080
Speaker 1: showed up to kick ass and take names. Two of

1411
01:17:19,120 --> 01:17:22,080
Speaker 1: them showed up. My team needs me with this game.

1412
01:17:22,120 --> 01:17:27,519
Speaker 1: Our season feels on the line. And Patrick, uh yeah,

1413
01:17:27,560 --> 01:17:29,960
Speaker 1: he's just he can be a little off. I'm with you.

1414
01:17:30,040 --> 01:17:34,520
Speaker 1: The deep ball accuracy when it comes to to Worthy,

1415
01:17:34,960 --> 01:17:37,800
Speaker 1: it's you know, bo Knicks, and again bow Knicks does

1416
01:17:37,840 --> 01:17:41,240
Speaker 1: not have the resume or the equity built up to

1417
01:17:41,240 --> 01:17:43,360
Speaker 1: get the benefit of the doubt. So he misses him.

1418
01:17:43,400 --> 01:17:46,799
Speaker 1: We crush him. But twenty nine to forty five, averaging

1419
01:17:46,840 --> 01:17:51,720
Speaker 1: six yards in attempt, had the one awful interception. He

1420
01:17:51,800 --> 01:17:53,920
Speaker 1: has three sacks. Now, part of that is they're one

1421
01:17:53,920 --> 01:17:56,719
Speaker 1: of the best pass rushing teams ever, but he also

1422
01:17:56,760 --> 01:17:59,760
Speaker 1: gets out of a lot of sacks. Here's who he say.

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01:17:59,800 --> 01:18:02,120
Speaker 1: You know, obviously Kelsey has a huge game. You know,

1424
01:18:02,200 --> 01:18:05,720
Speaker 1: Thornton hit on the one big pass Hollywood saw you

1425
01:18:05,800 --> 01:18:08,639
Speaker 1: take four for forty or she rice six for forty

1426
01:18:08,800 --> 01:18:12,720
Speaker 1: like a little bit more explosion. He just missed a

1427
01:18:12,720 --> 01:18:15,920
Speaker 1: couple of targets there. I mean they yeah, just they

1428
01:18:15,960 --> 01:18:17,680
Speaker 1: need to be better. I don't know what to tell you.

1429
01:18:18,920 --> 01:18:21,439
Speaker 1: I've listened to your comments about O'Connell losing the locker

1430
01:18:21,560 --> 01:18:25,439
Speaker 1: room due to his commitment to JJ. I let me

1431
01:18:25,439 --> 01:18:27,920
Speaker 1: say this again. I don't think he's losing the locker

1432
01:18:28,000 --> 01:18:30,559
Speaker 1: room because his commitment to JJ one. They don't have

1433
01:18:30,600 --> 01:18:33,920
Speaker 1: any other options. I just think that you got to

1434
01:18:33,920 --> 01:18:37,040
Speaker 1: be very careful how you treat a scrub quarterback when

1435
01:18:37,080 --> 01:18:40,719
Speaker 1: you have established players, it can be a tricky situation.

1436
01:18:41,120 --> 01:18:42,720
Speaker 1: I think I might have said that again heat of

1437
01:18:42,760 --> 01:18:46,599
Speaker 1: the moment a couple of weeks ago. I just think

1438
01:18:46,640 --> 01:18:49,479
Speaker 1: you gotta be careful that you got a lot of

1439
01:18:49,479 --> 01:18:54,200
Speaker 1: guys that are big time players going the ship is

1440
01:18:54,280 --> 01:18:57,880
Speaker 1: going down, and we're letting this guy steer it now.

1441
01:18:58,560 --> 01:19:01,280
Speaker 1: It's there's no other eye options right there. There is

1442
01:19:01,360 --> 01:19:04,080
Speaker 1: no other guy to go to. I forget what school

1443
01:19:04,120 --> 01:19:09,120
Speaker 1: the backup quarterback went to, but JG's gonna play. I

1444
01:19:09,200 --> 01:19:11,880
Speaker 1: just I do think it's a very tricky situation for

1445
01:19:12,160 --> 01:19:17,040
Speaker 1: any any coach, let alone Kevin O'Connell. The Vikings haven't

1446
01:19:17,040 --> 01:19:19,879
Speaker 1: looked the same since the Week eighteen Lions game. Earlier

1447
01:19:19,920 --> 01:19:23,200
Speaker 1: that day, reports claimed the team wanted to trade that

1448
01:19:23,320 --> 01:19:27,000
Speaker 1: teams wanted to trade for KOC. I wouldn't say reporters.

1449
01:19:27,000 --> 01:19:30,559
Speaker 1: I would say Jay Glazier put that out there. And again,

1450
01:19:30,720 --> 01:19:32,519
Speaker 1: I mean Jay is a reporter, but it was one

1451
01:19:32,560 --> 01:19:35,240
Speaker 1: individual whose name carries a lot of weight and said

1452
01:19:35,439 --> 01:19:38,000
Speaker 1: teams are lining up to trade for Kevin O'Connell. It

1453
01:19:38,040 --> 01:19:39,800
Speaker 1: felt like his agent was trying to drive up the

1454
01:19:39,800 --> 01:19:42,400
Speaker 1: price for O'Connell's upcoming extension. It rubbed me the wrong

1455
01:19:42,439 --> 01:19:45,240
Speaker 1: way at the time, and I wonder if you think

1456
01:19:45,280 --> 01:19:47,519
Speaker 1: this could have a lasting effect in the locker room.

1457
01:19:48,080 --> 01:19:51,000
Speaker 1: It's tough because this is a hard part about football

1458
01:19:51,439 --> 01:19:55,400
Speaker 1: college the pros. Everyone players and coaches in a weird

1459
01:19:55,400 --> 01:19:58,640
Speaker 1: way are kind of out for themselves, right, but we

1460
01:19:58,760 --> 01:20:01,639
Speaker 1: all got to be arm in arm in this team environment. Right.

1461
01:20:02,080 --> 01:20:05,400
Speaker 1: But ultimately, the coordinators telling you about all this, the

1462
01:20:05,439 --> 01:20:07,599
Speaker 1: moment he gets a better opportunity to become a head coach,

1463
01:20:07,600 --> 01:20:11,200
Speaker 1: he's leaving right a player. Ultimately, if they're going into

1464
01:20:11,240 --> 01:20:13,640
Speaker 1: a free agency year, you realize, like this team's I

1465
01:20:13,640 --> 01:20:15,680
Speaker 1: can be able to pay me, So I'm looking for

1466
01:20:15,720 --> 01:20:19,960
Speaker 1: my next destination and Kevin O'Connell. I don't know if

1467
01:20:20,000 --> 01:20:23,639
Speaker 1: it was the Ziggie Wolf being cheap or they thought

1468
01:20:23,720 --> 01:20:26,040
Speaker 1: that they were being low balled, but they clearly tried

1469
01:20:26,080 --> 01:20:29,400
Speaker 1: to drive up a market, which should be his agent's prerogative,

1470
01:20:30,000 --> 01:20:33,519
Speaker 1: trying to get his coach paid. And the media just

1471
01:20:33,800 --> 01:20:37,240
Speaker 1: loves the guy. And I've never met him. I don't

1472
01:20:37,240 --> 01:20:39,840
Speaker 1: know the guy, never had a conversation with him. Seems

1473
01:20:39,880 --> 01:20:42,400
Speaker 1: like a great guy, right, I do think he has

1474
01:20:42,439 --> 01:20:45,120
Speaker 1: some flaws as a coach, and just based on his resume,

1475
01:20:45,479 --> 01:20:47,479
Speaker 1: he's had two playoff games for he was the favorite

1476
01:20:47,479 --> 01:20:49,360
Speaker 1: and he lost them both. You can give me all

1477
01:20:49,400 --> 01:20:51,439
Speaker 1: the excuses you want. I mean, that's just a fact.

1478
01:20:51,880 --> 01:20:53,519
Speaker 1: So it's not like you're dealing with the guy. Well,

1479
01:20:53,560 --> 01:20:55,960
Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, he's won four playoff games, so listen.

1480
01:20:56,000 --> 01:20:59,800
Speaker 1: I mean, this guy deserves a big contract. And I

1481
01:20:59,800 --> 01:21:02,800
Speaker 1: think that story, which Jay Gott. I'm not trying to

1482
01:21:02,880 --> 01:21:04,840
Speaker 1: source guests, but it's pretty clear that it was coming

1483
01:21:04,840 --> 01:21:07,320
Speaker 1: from O'Connell's side, like, wait, this guy in your contract.

1484
01:21:07,320 --> 01:21:10,040
Speaker 1: These teams, No, he's if we said, like, hey, we're

1485
01:21:10,080 --> 01:21:13,639
Speaker 1: not gonna be able to come to a deal with

1486
01:21:13,680 --> 01:21:16,360
Speaker 1: the Vikings, then teams would trade for him. Sure, but

1487
01:21:16,439 --> 01:21:19,120
Speaker 1: that was never gonna happen. Like the Vikings weren't gonna

1488
01:21:19,160 --> 01:21:21,880
Speaker 1: let him leave. He just wanted more money, which listen,

1489
01:21:22,080 --> 01:21:25,240
Speaker 1: I'm pro money, so I get it. But he's also

1490
01:21:25,320 --> 01:21:29,120
Speaker 1: in the locker room preaching team accountability or been armed

1491
01:21:29,240 --> 01:21:31,720
Speaker 1: like every coach. It's like, bro, you fucking just trying

1492
01:21:31,720 --> 01:21:33,639
Speaker 1: to get an extra couple million dollars a year. You're

1493
01:21:33,680 --> 01:21:35,599
Speaker 1: no different than any of us, So you're telling us

1494
01:21:35,640 --> 01:21:37,800
Speaker 1: to not worry about contracts and all. You're consumed with

1495
01:21:37,840 --> 01:21:40,599
Speaker 1: it too. I just think coaches is general, and I'm

1496
01:21:40,640 --> 01:21:42,400
Speaker 1: not trying to just point the finger out O'Connell in

1497
01:21:42,400 --> 01:21:46,800
Speaker 1: this situation can be very hypocritical in these deals, and

1498
01:21:46,880 --> 01:21:49,200
Speaker 1: I think the more and more these players now with nil,

1499
01:21:49,360 --> 01:21:51,040
Speaker 1: these guys are gonna get more and more numb to

1500
01:21:51,120 --> 01:21:53,240
Speaker 1: money and be like, shut up, man, Like, if we

1501
01:21:53,400 --> 01:21:55,720
Speaker 1: just just just give us the game plan, we'll play

1502
01:21:55,720 --> 01:21:58,040
Speaker 1: our ass off and we'll try to win. So I

1503
01:21:58,479 --> 01:22:01,599
Speaker 1: just call some runs, call some runs. I think their

1504
01:22:01,640 --> 01:22:06,160
Speaker 1: bigger issue about the situation with its contract last year

1505
01:22:06,200 --> 01:22:10,200
Speaker 1: is JJ McCarthy. They drafted a player who they've put

1506
01:22:10,240 --> 01:22:11,720
Speaker 1: all their chips in the middle of the table on

1507
01:22:12,439 --> 01:22:17,960
Speaker 1: and it's backfired. I mean, even the most rose colored

1508
01:22:17,960 --> 01:22:22,080
Speaker 1: glasses Vikings fan would have to admit yesterday was an

1509
01:22:22,160 --> 01:22:27,320
Speaker 1: alarming crazy experience and the JJ in his limited sample size,

1510
01:22:27,320 --> 01:22:30,000
Speaker 1: this year has obviously been a roller coaster ride more

1511
01:22:30,040 --> 01:22:34,720
Speaker 1: bad than good. But yesterday was like what I even

1512
01:22:34,720 --> 01:22:37,160
Speaker 1: saw dan Orlowski was like the craziest part about a

1513
01:22:37,160 --> 01:22:39,360
Speaker 1: lot of these passes. It's one thing. It's like, hey,

1514
01:22:39,360 --> 01:22:41,639
Speaker 1: you just missing some high like he is missing by

1515
01:22:41,920 --> 01:22:45,080
Speaker 1: several yards. I mean there was the one on the

1516
01:22:45,080 --> 01:22:48,240
Speaker 1: out route that he overthrew Jefferson where the Bears dB

1517
01:22:48,920 --> 01:22:52,200
Speaker 1: you know, is probably fifteen feet away from him, like

1518
01:22:52,280 --> 01:22:56,559
Speaker 1: catches it behind him. You're like, oh my god. This

1519
01:22:56,680 --> 01:22:59,920
Speaker 1: is and clearly it's in his head he's lost his confidence,

1520
01:23:00,439 --> 01:23:02,800
Speaker 1: but this is It's not one of those where hey

1521
01:23:02,840 --> 01:23:05,360
Speaker 1: we just I've hitting a bad slice. Just go to

1522
01:23:05,400 --> 01:23:07,040
Speaker 1: the driving range for the next month and we'll just

1523
01:23:07,080 --> 01:23:08,880
Speaker 1: work through. It's like, no, no, you got another game

1524
01:23:08,920 --> 01:23:13,000
Speaker 1: this week. They don't stop. You got more games. And

1525
01:23:13,479 --> 01:23:16,519
Speaker 1: it's really hard. Did Brady say this yesterday? I heard

1526
01:23:16,520 --> 01:23:18,960
Speaker 1: someone say this, It's hard to throw your way out

1527
01:23:19,000 --> 01:23:22,280
Speaker 1: of a slump, you know, because it's all mental. It's

1528
01:23:22,280 --> 01:23:25,160
Speaker 1: not like you're going to change his mechanics. He is

1529
01:23:26,000 --> 01:23:29,680
Speaker 1: whatever's going on is leading to these balls flying all

1530
01:23:29,720 --> 01:23:33,960
Speaker 1: over the map and really not even close. Can we

1531
01:23:34,080 --> 01:23:36,800
Speaker 1: just admit that the concussion protocol in the NFL is

1532
01:23:36,840 --> 01:23:40,200
Speaker 1: out of hand. It costs the Browns the football game today,

1533
01:23:40,560 --> 01:23:43,760
Speaker 1: as they were complete control at sixteen to three when

1534
01:23:43,800 --> 01:23:46,240
Speaker 1: Gabriel went out with the concussion, and then they didn't

1535
01:23:46,280 --> 01:23:50,080
Speaker 1: score again with a third stringer Sanders. Somehow, every time

1536
01:23:50,120 --> 01:23:52,720
Speaker 1: a player hits their head they have a concussion and

1537
01:23:52,760 --> 01:23:54,680
Speaker 1: they do not come back into the game and then

1538
01:23:54,720 --> 01:23:57,200
Speaker 1: are held out the following game. How is this even

1539
01:23:57,240 --> 01:24:00,320
Speaker 1: possible if they have a concussion, why are they able

1540
01:24:00,360 --> 01:24:03,120
Speaker 1: to come back and then play two games later, so

1541
01:24:03,720 --> 01:24:07,479
Speaker 1: therefore they can't get CTE by being held out one game.

1542
01:24:07,800 --> 01:24:12,320
Speaker 1: It's completely ridiculous. Please help us understand. How is Atlanta

1543
01:24:12,720 --> 01:24:17,240
Speaker 1: not firing their coach every time? Well, I'll talk about

1544
01:24:17,240 --> 01:24:20,519
Speaker 1: it Atlanta later on the concussion thing. I think the

1545
01:24:20,640 --> 01:24:24,839
Speaker 1: NFL is clearly very sensitive after getting sued and losing

1546
01:24:24,880 --> 01:24:27,120
Speaker 1: because they didn't give a shit, just like the NFL

1547
01:24:27,200 --> 01:24:30,040
Speaker 1: was no different in high school football. Anytime we got

1548
01:24:30,080 --> 01:24:32,000
Speaker 1: our bells wrong, you were just told like shake it off.

1549
01:24:32,160 --> 01:24:36,320
Speaker 1: That's how football used to be and it changed when

1550
01:24:36,320 --> 01:24:39,559
Speaker 1: they got the lawsuits the CTE, So they are just

1551
01:24:39,680 --> 01:24:43,639
Speaker 1: trying to follow I said this forever about weed and drugs.

1552
01:24:43,960 --> 01:24:46,280
Speaker 1: Do you think the owners really care if you do

1553
01:24:46,479 --> 01:24:50,360
Speaker 1: drugs or smoked weed in nineteen ninety seven, You don't

1554
01:24:50,360 --> 01:24:53,320
Speaker 1: think half the owners are smoking weed on a nightly basis.

1555
01:24:53,720 --> 01:24:57,680
Speaker 1: It was about insurance. It was about the coverage, so

1556
01:24:57,720 --> 01:25:01,360
Speaker 1: they had to follow these rules for their business model.

1557
01:25:01,720 --> 01:25:04,679
Speaker 1: It wasn't because they were taking some moral stance. Maybe

1558
01:25:04,720 --> 01:25:07,280
Speaker 1: some guys did, but most of them didn't give a

1559
01:25:07,400 --> 01:25:10,360
Speaker 1: you know what. I think the same thing for concussion.

1560
01:25:10,600 --> 01:25:15,160
Speaker 1: They're just trying to mitigate their risks of getting sued. Now,

1561
01:25:15,240 --> 01:25:18,760
Speaker 1: I also think that the reason the concussion protocol it's

1562
01:25:18,800 --> 01:25:22,160
Speaker 1: about showing symptoms. So if you're still showing symptoms, they

1563
01:25:22,200 --> 01:25:25,479
Speaker 1: will not let you out. I think, you know, it's

1564
01:25:25,520 --> 01:25:27,920
Speaker 1: not like I've read that many studies, but clearly you

1565
01:25:28,000 --> 01:25:31,760
Speaker 1: are more likely to have another concussion once you've had

1566
01:25:31,760 --> 01:25:35,600
Speaker 1: a concussion, So if you do not pass the protocol

1567
01:25:35,720 --> 01:25:37,640
Speaker 1: and they put you back, you're more likely to have them.

1568
01:25:37,800 --> 01:25:40,280
Speaker 1: Look at TUA now doesn't mean you go a rest

1569
01:25:40,320 --> 01:25:43,400
Speaker 1: of a career and never have another one again. But

1570
01:25:43,640 --> 01:25:47,240
Speaker 1: like Dylan Gabriel once he gets shows the signs, they

1571
01:25:47,240 --> 01:25:50,559
Speaker 1: don't let them back in the game. It's really that simple.

1572
01:25:50,680 --> 01:25:54,960
Speaker 1: I mean, it's we could argue over the you know,

1573
01:25:55,080 --> 01:25:58,559
Speaker 1: the outcome of it all, like is actually doing that much?

1574
01:25:59,120 --> 01:26:01,920
Speaker 1: Probably not right if because ultimately, I like, if I

1575
01:26:01,920 --> 01:26:03,439
Speaker 1: get a cussion and you hold me out a couple

1576
01:26:03,439 --> 01:26:04,800
Speaker 1: of games and then I come back and two weeks

1577
01:26:04,880 --> 01:26:07,640
Speaker 1: later I get another concussion, it's like, well, this is

1578
01:26:07,640 --> 01:26:11,479
Speaker 1: a pretty bad outcome. But again, these guys. No one's

1579
01:26:11,520 --> 01:26:13,560
Speaker 1: forcing these people to do it. You know, it's like

1580
01:26:13,600 --> 01:26:15,200
Speaker 1: the tu a thing he does not need to play.

1581
01:26:15,400 --> 01:26:18,559
Speaker 1: He could or just quit now. Quitting when you're making

1582
01:26:18,600 --> 01:26:22,000
Speaker 1: forty fifty million dollars a year, news flash, nobody. It's

1583
01:26:22,040 --> 01:26:24,920
Speaker 1: also fun to play football, like twenty seven? What else

1584
01:26:24,920 --> 01:26:27,639
Speaker 1: am I going to do? So I think they're kind

1585
01:26:27,640 --> 01:26:29,320
Speaker 1: of in a tough spot. They're trying to do the

1586
01:26:29,360 --> 01:26:33,400
Speaker 1: right thing. There is no perfect answer, and like the

1587
01:26:33,400 --> 01:26:35,000
Speaker 1: players have a lot of juice too. It's not like

1588
01:26:35,000 --> 01:26:37,240
Speaker 1: the teams are in full control, right, It's like, well

1589
01:26:37,360 --> 01:26:42,439
Speaker 1: you're out for the year. NFLPA would sue should the

1590
01:26:42,439 --> 01:26:45,680
Speaker 1: Lions consider moving off golf? Maybe an overreaction to the

1591
01:26:45,680 --> 01:26:48,920
Speaker 1: Philly loss, but he was horrendous. He's a very good

1592
01:26:49,000 --> 01:26:51,679
Speaker 1: quarterback when things are going right and the weather is fine.

1593
01:26:51,800 --> 01:26:54,200
Speaker 1: I just don't see the Lions reaching their ultimate goal.

1594
01:26:54,920 --> 01:26:56,559
Speaker 1: I think it's an easy thing to bring up, but

1595
01:26:56,600 --> 01:26:59,080
Speaker 1: I'm not sure what your other options are. Who are

1596
01:26:59,120 --> 01:27:01,840
Speaker 1: you finding and who are you getting that is even

1597
01:27:02,080 --> 01:27:05,200
Speaker 1: remotely close to as good as him? Now, should you

1598
01:27:05,360 --> 01:27:07,040
Speaker 1: be in the market of like drafting guy in the

1599
01:27:07,040 --> 01:27:09,200
Speaker 1: second or third round, I got no issue with that,

1600
01:27:09,880 --> 01:27:12,320
Speaker 1: But the likelihood on getting a second round or that

1601
01:27:12,439 --> 01:27:16,360
Speaker 1: just becomes a starter. The percentages are pretty low. It's

1602
01:27:16,360 --> 01:27:18,960
Speaker 1: fifty to fifty in like the top fifteen. It's much

1603
01:27:19,000 --> 01:27:21,559
Speaker 1: lower than that once you get out of the first round, right,

1604
01:27:21,720 --> 01:27:23,719
Speaker 1: and once you move down the rounds, it gets really

1605
01:27:23,760 --> 01:27:26,680
Speaker 1: really low. And just because you're a starter doesn't mean

1606
01:27:26,720 --> 01:27:28,559
Speaker 1: you're good. So the likelihood that you're gonna be better

1607
01:27:28,560 --> 01:27:32,439
Speaker 1: than Jared Goff who has some flaws, but when his

1608
01:27:32,479 --> 01:27:33,760
Speaker 1: career is over, what's it going to be a six

1609
01:27:33,840 --> 01:27:36,160
Speaker 1: time pro bowler? So you're gonna find a guy in

1610
01:27:36,160 --> 01:27:38,240
Speaker 1: the third round that just ever makes a Pro Bowl.

1611
01:27:38,600 --> 01:27:42,880
Speaker 1: It's history would say that's extremely unlikely. So they're just

1612
01:27:42,880 --> 01:27:45,600
Speaker 1: in a tough spot. They're kind of it feels like

1613
01:27:45,640 --> 01:27:52,320
Speaker 1: a little bit stuck watching the snoozefest of the lines

1614
01:27:52,360 --> 01:27:56,120
Speaker 1: and the Eagles. Lions stopped the Eagles on a fourth

1615
01:27:56,160 --> 01:27:58,160
Speaker 1: and one push push and get the ball at the

1616
01:27:58,200 --> 01:28:00,960
Speaker 1: Eagles thirty to start the drive with three minutes left,

1617
01:28:01,320 --> 01:28:05,680
Speaker 1: down ten with three timeouts. Would a team ever immediately

1618
01:28:05,760 --> 01:28:08,120
Speaker 1: kick a field goal and then give the ball back

1619
01:28:08,160 --> 01:28:11,080
Speaker 1: with three timeouts and the two minute warning. I thought

1620
01:28:11,080 --> 01:28:15,000
Speaker 1: about this the moment they stopped the Eagles on the tushbush.

1621
01:28:15,360 --> 01:28:17,679
Speaker 1: Now here's the thing. Dan Campbell wasn't kicking field goals

1622
01:28:17,680 --> 01:28:19,880
Speaker 1: all game long. He was clearly hesitant to do it.

1623
01:28:20,240 --> 01:28:23,880
Speaker 1: But you could have justified especially. I mean, if he

1624
01:28:23,920 --> 01:28:26,920
Speaker 1: hits it, you're in pretty good shape. Again, your defense

1625
01:28:27,479 --> 01:28:29,679
Speaker 1: isn't going to get a stop. That's the bigger question.

1626
01:28:29,800 --> 01:28:32,920
Speaker 1: But it propped up in my mind, should you just

1627
01:28:33,000 --> 01:28:34,880
Speaker 1: kick a field goal immediately, especially if you have a

1628
01:28:34,920 --> 01:28:36,400
Speaker 1: lot of faith in your kicker, which their kicker is

1629
01:28:36,479 --> 01:28:40,439
Speaker 1: clearly pretty good. I think I wouldn't have had an

1630
01:28:40,439 --> 01:28:43,280
Speaker 1: issue with it, because if you're trying to go thirty

1631
01:28:43,360 --> 01:28:46,559
Speaker 1: yards with a quarterback who has not played well, all

1632
01:28:46,560 --> 01:28:49,880
Speaker 1: of a sudden, you waste a minute and a half

1633
01:28:49,960 --> 01:28:52,080
Speaker 1: and it's like, Okay, we got three timeouts, but we

1634
01:28:52,120 --> 01:28:54,040
Speaker 1: didn't even We end up kicking a field goal anyway,

1635
01:28:54,080 --> 01:28:57,479
Speaker 1: and there's a buck twenty on the clock, So I yeah,

1636
01:28:57,560 --> 01:28:59,640
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think it would have been that

1637
01:28:59,680 --> 01:29:05,680
Speaker 1: crazy they would have done that. Sitting here after the

1638
01:29:05,720 --> 01:29:09,240
Speaker 1: Lions lost, and I'm absolutely gutted. I don't understand how

1639
01:29:09,240 --> 01:29:12,599
Speaker 1: a team like Philly, loaded with weapons and high priced

1640
01:29:12,600 --> 01:29:17,080
Speaker 1: players everywhere, are able to continue to get massive defensive

1641
01:29:17,080 --> 01:29:20,960
Speaker 1: help in trades. Why the hell doesn't Brad Holmes even

1642
01:29:20,960 --> 01:29:24,719
Speaker 1: make any moves or our cap situation is much worse

1643
01:29:24,720 --> 01:29:28,200
Speaker 1: than Philly. It seems like an excuse is always quote

1644
01:29:28,520 --> 01:29:32,519
Speaker 1: the future. But Philly's been dominating and trading for years. Well.

1645
01:29:32,520 --> 01:29:35,800
Speaker 1: Two things. One, their owner front loads a lot of

1646
01:29:35,800 --> 01:29:40,680
Speaker 1: these contracts, so they're signing bonuses and money that they

1647
01:29:40,680 --> 01:29:46,200
Speaker 1: can admortize over the course of the contract. Is because

1648
01:29:46,240 --> 01:29:48,639
Speaker 1: the owner is spending a lot of cash. So if

1649
01:29:48,680 --> 01:29:55,240
Speaker 1: I type in cash spent on NFL team's last four years,

1650
01:29:56,800 --> 01:30:03,719
Speaker 1: the let me just see this, because it showed twenty

1651
01:30:03,800 --> 01:30:09,439
Speaker 1: twenty five the Eagles were really high and Detroit just

1652
01:30:09,520 --> 01:30:13,639
Speaker 1: isn't as high. So Philly, Minnesota is high this year.

1653
01:30:13,720 --> 01:30:18,599
Speaker 1: Damn so twenty like next year, you guys are high too. Actually,

1654
01:30:20,880 --> 01:30:22,960
Speaker 1: this isn't the list I'm looking for the last couple

1655
01:30:23,000 --> 01:30:25,439
Speaker 1: of years. I don't know how I'm gonna find it.

1656
01:30:25,840 --> 01:30:29,000
Speaker 1: Not a great podcast here the information. But I think

1657
01:30:29,040 --> 01:30:31,680
Speaker 1: over the course of the last four years, like twenty one,

1658
01:30:31,800 --> 01:30:35,200
Speaker 1: twenty two, twenty three, and twenty four, the only team

1659
01:30:35,240 --> 01:30:39,760
Speaker 1: that's spent more actual cash was the Cleveland Browns in

1660
01:30:39,800 --> 01:30:42,400
Speaker 1: relation to the Philadelphia Eagles, and the forty nine ers

1661
01:30:42,439 --> 01:30:46,320
Speaker 1: are right there too. Their owners are spending huge amounts

1662
01:30:46,320 --> 01:30:51,479
Speaker 1: of guaranteed money and big upfront signing bonuses, where then

1663
01:30:51,560 --> 01:30:54,160
Speaker 1: they can kind of spread it throughout the cap. I

1664
01:30:54,200 --> 01:30:57,519
Speaker 1: also think this how he has a lot of equity

1665
01:30:57,960 --> 01:31:00,639
Speaker 1: and one his nature, he's much more like an NBA

1666
01:31:00,760 --> 01:31:04,680
Speaker 1: or Baseball GM, where he's numb to moves. Most football

1667
01:31:04,680 --> 01:31:09,320
Speaker 1: guys are very reluctant to make big splashes around the

1668
01:31:09,320 --> 01:31:12,400
Speaker 1: trade deadline. How he does not give a shit, so

1669
01:31:12,640 --> 01:31:18,599
Speaker 1: his capacity for risk is in a different world than

1670
01:31:18,880 --> 01:31:22,640
Speaker 1: the overwhelming percentage of gms. But especially Brad Holmes is

1671
01:31:22,720 --> 01:31:25,120
Speaker 1: kind of showing this like that's not really there, am up,

1672
01:31:25,800 --> 01:31:28,439
Speaker 1: Like how he's gonna outtrade him more often than not

1673
01:31:28,640 --> 01:31:33,200
Speaker 1: because he's willing to do riskier things. And I think

1674
01:31:33,240 --> 01:31:36,000
Speaker 1: it's and I've said this before most gms, especially when

1675
01:31:36,040 --> 01:31:38,759
Speaker 1: you're in a job that like it's not he's getting fired.

1676
01:31:39,439 --> 01:31:41,200
Speaker 1: You just go, well, we got we gotta we got

1677
01:31:41,200 --> 01:31:45,080
Speaker 1: a long runway here. The Eagles do not think long runways.

1678
01:31:45,840 --> 01:31:48,880
Speaker 1: Like the Eagles just won a Super Bowl. I know,

1679
01:31:49,000 --> 01:31:53,759
Speaker 1: I spent so many hours and so many days around

1680
01:31:53,840 --> 01:31:57,559
Speaker 1: this guy that they live every single day like like

1681
01:31:57,640 --> 01:32:02,080
Speaker 1: it's very serious. So Week ten to them, the year

1682
01:32:02,080 --> 01:32:04,400
Speaker 1: after winning a Super Bowl is no different than Week

1683
01:32:04,439 --> 01:32:07,080
Speaker 1: ten to them three years ago after losing in the

1684
01:32:07,080 --> 01:32:13,880
Speaker 1: first round. They emphasize, you know, and starts with Howie,

1685
01:32:14,080 --> 01:32:18,000
Speaker 1: how important every like winning every single year is. And

1686
01:32:18,040 --> 01:32:21,000
Speaker 1: they have the support from their owner. So I just

1687
01:32:21,040 --> 01:32:24,080
Speaker 1: think most teams aren't like that. Like this, Let's face it,

1688
01:32:24,120 --> 01:32:27,160
Speaker 1: these last couple of years for the Lions is pretty

1689
01:32:27,200 --> 01:32:30,160
Speaker 1: incredible for their ownership. You see the face on Jeffrey

1690
01:32:30,240 --> 01:32:34,280
Speaker 1: Leary A couple was it the Monday night game against

1691
01:32:34,320 --> 01:32:37,679
Speaker 1: the Packers. I mean they're playing Monday night, their team

1692
01:32:37,760 --> 01:32:40,120
Speaker 1: that game going in there, six and two, they're the

1693
01:32:40,120 --> 01:32:44,840
Speaker 1: defending champs, and it's whatever. The score was seven to three.

1694
01:32:46,000 --> 01:32:47,559
Speaker 1: I mean, it was a hard game to watch. He

1695
01:32:47,680 --> 01:32:51,600
Speaker 1: looked like he was being forced to get a colonoscopy

1696
01:32:51,720 --> 01:32:54,519
Speaker 1: or something. It's like, Jeffrey, your franchise is worth like

1697
01:32:54,560 --> 01:32:56,479
Speaker 1: eight billion dollars. You have a Super Bowl ring on

1698
01:32:56,520 --> 01:32:59,720
Speaker 1: your finger. And he was pissed off, like he was

1699
01:33:00,040 --> 01:33:03,240
Speaker 1: legitimately pissed off, especially because he likes offense. He wants

1700
01:33:03,280 --> 01:33:06,519
Speaker 1: to score points. You know. That's the thing. Like Howie

1701
01:33:06,560 --> 01:33:09,960
Speaker 1: doesn't mind he'd won a Super Bowl anyway or any different.

1702
01:33:10,400 --> 01:33:13,360
Speaker 1: You know, they if they the worst offense but a

1703
01:33:13,400 --> 01:33:16,360
Speaker 1: great defense, they win the Super Bowl. Jeffrey wants to

1704
01:33:16,400 --> 01:33:25,240
Speaker 1: pass and throw and score points. Like that's what he likes.

1705
01:33:33,240 --> 01:33:36,240
Speaker 1: Does cam Ward have the worst supporting cast of all time?

1706
01:33:36,640 --> 01:33:39,120
Speaker 1: Right now? The Titans have the number one ranked most

1707
01:33:39,120 --> 01:33:43,320
Speaker 1: difficult schedule this season, with Mike McCoy coaching and the

1708
01:33:43,360 --> 01:33:46,840
Speaker 1: rest of Brian Callahan's disaster coaching staff still around. A

1709
01:33:46,920 --> 01:33:50,759
Speaker 1: quarterback coach Colin plays, which obviously is not going well.

1710
01:33:51,360 --> 01:33:54,480
Speaker 1: On top of all that, he's throwing to Van Jefferson,

1711
01:33:55,040 --> 01:33:58,719
Speaker 1: Mason Kinsney, and two fourth round rookies as the starting

1712
01:33:58,720 --> 01:34:02,200
Speaker 1: wide receiver corps. He's playing the NFL's number one toughest

1713
01:34:02,240 --> 01:34:05,280
Speaker 1: schedule with a practice squad wide receiver and an interim

1714
01:34:05,360 --> 01:34:08,080
Speaker 1: head coach. He's got to be better, but it's hard

1715
01:34:08,120 --> 01:34:12,519
Speaker 1: to judge him. It's a disastrous situation. There's really no

1716
01:34:12,600 --> 01:34:15,400
Speaker 1: way around it. This notion. When I see I saw

1717
01:34:15,439 --> 01:34:18,479
Speaker 1: Bruce Feldman throughout the like Lane Kiffen would be interested

1718
01:34:18,520 --> 01:34:21,080
Speaker 1: in the Titans. Lane kiffn makes eleven million dollars. The

1719
01:34:21,120 --> 01:34:24,840
Speaker 1: Titans are just paying Brian Callahan three million dollars, So one,

1720
01:34:24,960 --> 01:34:27,120
Speaker 1: they'd have to almost four x the amount they pay

1721
01:34:27,160 --> 01:34:33,280
Speaker 1: a coach, and two the team is absolutely abysmal. I'd

1722
01:34:33,320 --> 01:34:35,519
Speaker 1: be lying if I said I've watched most Titans over

1723
01:34:35,520 --> 01:34:38,800
Speaker 1: the last month that they are and every time I

1724
01:34:38,840 --> 01:34:43,320
Speaker 1: looked over playing the Texans, they are. They're a terrible product.

1725
01:34:43,600 --> 01:34:46,599
Speaker 1: Just putting my consumer hat on. Just as someone if

1726
01:34:46,640 --> 01:34:48,840
Speaker 1: I was doing something else for a living and just

1727
01:34:48,920 --> 01:34:53,120
Speaker 1: lover of football, they are someone you would just not watch, right,

1728
01:34:53,240 --> 01:34:55,599
Speaker 1: like if you like baseball or basketball or whatever sport,

1729
01:34:55,640 --> 01:34:57,720
Speaker 1: Like there are certain teams like if you said, hey,

1730
01:34:57,720 --> 01:34:59,960
Speaker 1: what's your opinion on Deon Sanders in Colorado this year?

1731
01:35:00,200 --> 01:35:02,479
Speaker 1: Like I don't have one. I haven't watched a snap.

1732
01:35:03,000 --> 01:35:05,560
Speaker 1: I don't have time to watch awful football on Saturdays

1733
01:35:05,600 --> 01:35:08,839
Speaker 1: when there's good football on right. They're an interesting story

1734
01:35:08,880 --> 01:35:11,679
Speaker 1: when they have you know, NFL players and are gonna

1735
01:35:11,680 --> 01:35:15,040
Speaker 1: win eight nine games. But if you think I wasn't

1736
01:35:15,080 --> 01:35:18,280
Speaker 1: watching Colorado over the last couple of decades when they sucked,

1737
01:35:18,400 --> 01:35:19,800
Speaker 1: why am I gonna watch him now? With three or

1738
01:35:19,800 --> 01:35:23,000
Speaker 1: four wins? They're an unwatchable team. No divin the Titans,

1739
01:35:23,040 --> 01:35:26,280
Speaker 1: like you, the Saints, some of these teams are just

1740
01:35:26,560 --> 01:35:29,400
Speaker 1: if you're gonna win three four games, the consumer is

1741
01:35:29,439 --> 01:35:36,559
Speaker 1: not gonna consume you. So the GM, Borganzi and Brinker,

1742
01:35:36,760 --> 01:35:40,200
Speaker 1: the packer guy who's the above him, they got a

1743
01:35:40,240 --> 01:35:43,960
Speaker 1: lot to do. I like cam Ward to Miami, but

1744
01:35:45,320 --> 01:35:51,160
Speaker 1: he's not good enough to overcome just abysmal talent surrounding him.

1745
01:35:51,600 --> 01:35:54,479
Speaker 1: No chance. And obviously they're coaching him and Mike McCoy

1746
01:35:55,080 --> 01:35:57,559
Speaker 1: now granted, and he's the head coach because they fired

1747
01:35:58,200 --> 01:36:03,120
Speaker 1: the guy. But I just think the Titans, it's sad.

1748
01:36:03,479 --> 01:36:06,439
Speaker 1: Nashville is one of my favorite cities in America, and

1749
01:36:06,680 --> 01:36:09,000
Speaker 1: they are gonna be really really bad for a long time.

1750
01:36:09,360 --> 01:36:11,720
Speaker 1: I mean really bad because also their division is not

1751
01:36:11,840 --> 01:36:14,840
Speaker 1: bad right. If the Colts just gets solid quarterback played,

1752
01:36:14,800 --> 01:36:16,880
Speaker 1: they're gonna be pretty competitive these next couple of years.

1753
01:36:17,240 --> 01:36:22,599
Speaker 1: The Texans defense is elite, I mean elite. The Jags

1754
01:36:22,600 --> 01:36:27,800
Speaker 1: are gonna win ten eleven games the Titans. When you

1755
01:36:27,840 --> 01:36:30,479
Speaker 1: go back to back with the number one overall pick,

1756
01:36:30,560 --> 01:36:32,680
Speaker 1: and not because you know, the Bears did it one year,

1757
01:36:32,720 --> 01:36:35,680
Speaker 1: but it was because they traded. When you truly go

1758
01:36:35,840 --> 01:36:37,840
Speaker 1: back to back years having the number one overall pick,

1759
01:36:40,640 --> 01:36:45,200
Speaker 1: it's it's pretty it's pretty ugly. That's hard. It's hard

1760
01:36:45,240 --> 01:36:50,120
Speaker 1: to do. Okay, two more questions. I've recently been learning

1761
01:36:50,200 --> 01:36:52,519
Speaker 1: more about the sport of rugby due to Netflix show

1762
01:36:52,920 --> 01:36:56,840
Speaker 1: Rugged Rugby on the South Korean teams. It made me think,

1763
01:36:57,200 --> 01:37:01,240
Speaker 1: why isn't the sport more popular over here since it's

1764
01:37:01,240 --> 01:37:04,840
Speaker 1: similar to football. Also, what position groups do you think

1765
01:37:04,880 --> 01:37:09,160
Speaker 1: specific players in the NFL would excel at the sport? Well,

1766
01:37:08,960 --> 01:37:13,120
Speaker 1: all my college roommates played rugby at cal Paly, so

1767
01:37:13,200 --> 01:37:19,160
Speaker 1: I used to go to games, and my Maria's uncle

1768
01:37:20,040 --> 01:37:23,000
Speaker 1: played rugby at Saint Mary's, which is a you know,

1769
01:37:23,160 --> 01:37:27,479
Speaker 1: they have pretty good basketball schools where Della Dova went

1770
01:37:27,520 --> 01:37:30,360
Speaker 1: to college. Randy Bennis their basketball coach. But there are

1771
01:37:30,439 --> 01:37:32,559
Speaker 1: rugby team is now currently one of, if not the

1772
01:37:32,560 --> 01:37:35,519
Speaker 1: best college rugby programs in the country. They're better than

1773
01:37:35,560 --> 01:37:37,920
Speaker 1: Cow that historically was really good. So I used to

1774
01:37:37,960 --> 01:37:41,000
Speaker 1: watch all these teams play, and obviously I used to

1775
01:37:41,000 --> 01:37:43,639
Speaker 1: think about it, like how good so and so player

1776
01:37:43,680 --> 01:37:46,640
Speaker 1: would be at rugby, for example, when I was in college,

1777
01:37:46,880 --> 01:37:51,280
Speaker 1: Like if you put La Ladanian, Tomlinson, any elite running

1778
01:37:51,360 --> 01:37:55,599
Speaker 1: back would dominate on the wings at rugby. You know

1779
01:37:55,760 --> 01:38:00,280
Speaker 1: Alvin Kamara, Saquon Barkley right that the you know, Eric

1780
01:38:00,360 --> 01:38:02,840
Speaker 1: Henry would probably be like a hybrid rugg I don't

1781
01:38:02,840 --> 01:38:04,559
Speaker 1: even know what position he would play, but he would

1782
01:38:04,640 --> 01:38:09,799
Speaker 1: be dominant. Any linebacker would be. It'd be incredible, especially

1783
01:38:09,800 --> 01:38:11,920
Speaker 1: if the tall, long ones like an ear Locker or

1784
01:38:11,960 --> 01:38:18,200
Speaker 1: a Keikley. I think rugby's problem is we love football

1785
01:38:18,240 --> 01:38:22,240
Speaker 1: here and we get our rocks off from a physical

1786
01:38:22,280 --> 01:38:27,439
Speaker 1: standpoint with tackling with football and pats, and there's an

1787
01:38:27,479 --> 01:38:33,000
Speaker 1: element of rugby where it's like it's almost more dangerous

1788
01:38:33,000 --> 01:38:34,920
Speaker 1: in the sense because none of these guys are wearing

1789
01:38:34,960 --> 01:38:37,800
Speaker 1: pads and they're full speed running at each other. But

1790
01:38:37,880 --> 01:38:41,320
Speaker 1: it just doesn't resonate here. You know, my dad and

1791
01:38:41,400 --> 01:38:44,759
Speaker 1: his dad loved to fish. I mean, my dad loved

1792
01:38:44,760 --> 01:38:49,360
Speaker 1: to fish. He was He liked fly fishing, probably more

1793
01:38:49,680 --> 01:38:51,800
Speaker 1: or as much as I like like football or whatever.

1794
01:38:51,880 --> 01:38:53,960
Speaker 1: Like loved it. And they used to go to New Zealand,

1795
01:38:54,400 --> 01:38:56,639
Speaker 1: you know, around wintertime for a couple of weeks agoing.

1796
01:38:56,680 --> 01:38:58,840
Speaker 1: His dad would take him on like fly fishing trips,

1797
01:38:58,840 --> 01:39:02,120
Speaker 1: you know, my grandpa, he was retired. He loved would

1798
01:39:02,160 --> 01:39:08,280
Speaker 1: he loved the outdoors, loved duck hunting, love fishing. Bit conservative, ironically,

1799
01:39:08,400 --> 01:39:11,439
Speaker 1: like redneck guy. But he was a professor at CAL Berkeley,

1800
01:39:12,400 --> 01:39:18,120
Speaker 1: probably one of the rare republican professors at Cal in

1801
01:39:18,160 --> 01:39:20,400
Speaker 1: the history of the university. But again it wasn't that

1802
01:39:20,439 --> 01:39:22,400
Speaker 1: weird in like the seventies and eighties. People just got along.

1803
01:39:23,200 --> 01:39:26,200
Speaker 1: But they so he used to always talk and bring

1804
01:39:26,240 --> 01:39:29,160
Speaker 1: me back gear of like the All Blacks. I just

1805
01:39:29,200 --> 01:39:32,120
Speaker 1: think we have the Green Bay Packers, we have the

1806
01:39:32,200 --> 01:39:36,280
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys. You know, we have Alabama. So football is

1807
01:39:36,320 --> 01:39:39,120
Speaker 1: so big that it's hard for rugby. You know. The

1808
01:39:39,200 --> 01:39:45,400
Speaker 1: reason UFC has really gained ground is because boxing kind

1809
01:39:45,400 --> 01:39:48,919
Speaker 1: of fell off and UFC is well run. If football

1810
01:39:49,040 --> 01:39:51,920
Speaker 1: was a disaster, then other sports like a rugby could

1811
01:39:51,960 --> 01:39:55,599
Speaker 1: fill our physical Cup, but we don't really need it

1812
01:39:55,680 --> 01:39:58,719
Speaker 1: because football is on all day Saturday, all day Sunday,

1813
01:39:58,880 --> 01:40:04,320
Speaker 1: Thursday night, Monday night, Friday night. It's just it's a

1814
01:40:04,439 --> 01:40:08,000
Speaker 1: all the time. I saw this clip yesterday Carson Palmer

1815
01:40:08,080 --> 01:40:11,599
Speaker 1: Santa Margarita's the head coach. Just one. I think they're

1816
01:40:11,600 --> 01:40:14,320
Speaker 1: in like the semi finals of Southern California for Division one.

1817
01:40:14,439 --> 01:40:17,640
Speaker 1: I was thinking. My coach in high school football was

1818
01:40:17,720 --> 01:40:20,559
Speaker 1: named Lee Scarabo. I mean, he was just a joke.

1819
01:40:20,720 --> 01:40:24,200
Speaker 1: I mean he was just an abomination as a head coach,

1820
01:40:24,320 --> 01:40:26,960
Speaker 1: had no clue what he was doing. I was thinking,

1821
01:40:27,200 --> 01:40:30,280
Speaker 1: I can't imagine some of these kids. Your head coach

1822
01:40:30,520 --> 01:40:34,479
Speaker 1: is Carson Palmer. Can you imagine going home? If you're

1823
01:40:34,479 --> 01:40:37,000
Speaker 1: like seventeen, You're like, god, Dad, my coach, he just

1824
01:40:37,439 --> 01:40:41,360
Speaker 1: doesn't quite understand, man. No, I no, he actually understands.

1825
01:40:41,439 --> 01:40:43,760
Speaker 1: He played like fifteen years in the NFL when the

1826
01:40:43,760 --> 01:40:47,200
Speaker 1: Heisman Trophy started at USC. Obviously, I'm sure it was

1827
01:40:47,360 --> 01:40:50,120
Speaker 1: an unreal high school player. Like, no, he kind of

1828
01:40:50,160 --> 01:40:54,200
Speaker 1: gets what you're going through. Actually, he understands completely, and

1829
01:40:54,280 --> 01:40:56,000
Speaker 1: when it comes to football, he's got a pretty good

1830
01:40:56,000 --> 01:40:58,840
Speaker 1: idea what's going on. Some of these kids, And there's

1831
01:40:58,880 --> 01:41:02,240
Speaker 1: no way when you're young even kind of comprehend what's

1832
01:41:02,320 --> 01:41:06,080
Speaker 1: going on. But you'll look back and you'll go Courson

1833
01:41:06,120 --> 01:41:10,400
Speaker 1: Palmer was my head coach in high school. Curse Carson Palmer.

1834
01:41:11,120 --> 01:41:14,679
Speaker 1: You know lucky you are. Okay, we'll end on this question.

1835
01:41:14,720 --> 01:41:17,120
Speaker 1: For the back, Colin had a segment about Notre Dame

1836
01:41:17,240 --> 01:41:20,200
Speaker 1: not having quality wins this season. Can't really argue it,

1837
01:41:20,479 --> 01:41:22,519
Speaker 1: and also think they should just join the Big Ten.

1838
01:41:22,680 --> 01:41:27,040
Speaker 1: But was their national title appearance last season not filled

1839
01:41:27,080 --> 01:41:33,040
Speaker 1: with quality wins? Georgia, Penn State, et cetera. I'm I'm

1840
01:41:33,080 --> 01:41:36,960
Speaker 1: a much bigger believer in the eye test, like we

1841
01:41:37,040 --> 01:41:39,120
Speaker 1: kind of know who's good and who's not good. Like

1842
01:41:39,240 --> 01:41:41,920
Speaker 1: I've watched enough of Notre Dame. They are really good,

1843
01:41:42,640 --> 01:41:44,439
Speaker 1: and I know. And this is where if you're a

1844
01:41:44,439 --> 01:41:46,479
Speaker 1: Miami fan, you're like, well, if we have we're ten

1845
01:41:46,520 --> 01:41:49,000
Speaker 1: and two, you're ten and two when we beat you, Like, yeah, true,

1846
01:41:49,760 --> 01:41:52,760
Speaker 1: you did beat us, But would you beat us now?

1847
01:41:53,120 --> 01:41:55,600
Speaker 1: Because I think you even you'd agree, like we'd like

1848
01:41:55,640 --> 01:41:58,120
Speaker 1: our chances and I'd take yeah, I'd like Notre Dame's chances.

1849
01:41:58,840 --> 01:42:00,720
Speaker 1: And I saw a lane bring this up. What if

1850
01:42:00,760 --> 01:42:02,479
Speaker 1: we put it on our neutral site. Can we get

1851
01:42:02,560 --> 01:42:04,800
Speaker 1: Vegas on the phone? What's the line? Because I'll bet

1852
01:42:04,840 --> 01:42:09,160
Speaker 1: Notre Dame's favored. I'll bet Notre Dame's favored. And I'll

1853
01:42:09,160 --> 01:42:12,000
Speaker 1: bet if you made Miami favorite, every single human alive

1854
01:42:12,720 --> 01:42:16,360
Speaker 1: would bet on Notre Dame. So I think Notre Dame's

1855
01:42:16,400 --> 01:42:19,400
Speaker 1: really good. I've watched a lot of college football this year,

1856
01:42:19,760 --> 01:42:23,200
Speaker 1: like I do over here, and they're clearly one of

1857
01:42:23,240 --> 01:42:25,679
Speaker 1: the best seven or eight teams in the country. Would

1858
01:42:25,720 --> 01:42:28,000
Speaker 1: it shock me at all if they won the national championship? No,

1859
01:42:28,080 --> 01:42:31,400
Speaker 1: it would not. Jeremiah Love is healthy this year, remember

1860
01:42:31,439 --> 01:42:35,200
Speaker 1: he was not last year. And to their quarterback play

1861
01:42:35,320 --> 01:42:38,280
Speaker 1: is better this year, like their guy this year is

1862
01:42:38,360 --> 01:42:40,559
Speaker 1: better than their guy last year. That was a big

1863
01:42:40,600 --> 01:42:42,599
Speaker 1: part of why they got to the national championship. They

1864
01:42:42,600 --> 01:42:44,479
Speaker 1: have an awesome defense, they have an awesome head coach.

1865
01:42:45,000 --> 01:42:47,240
Speaker 1: They're just well run. The other thing is like, I

1866
01:42:47,320 --> 01:42:51,439
Speaker 1: don't think obviously Ohio State's pretty elite, and I'd be

1867
01:42:51,439 --> 01:42:53,760
Speaker 1: stunned if Ohio State doesn't when they play Indiana and

1868
01:42:53,760 --> 01:42:57,360
Speaker 1: the conference championship, doesn't win that game. But beside Ohio State,

1869
01:42:57,439 --> 01:42:59,639
Speaker 1: which you might not match up with till the national

1870
01:42:59,720 --> 01:43:03,800
Speaker 1: champion ship. Who couldn't Notre Dame beat They could be Georgia,

1871
01:43:03,840 --> 01:43:05,760
Speaker 1: they could beat Indiana, they could be Bama, they could

1872
01:43:05,800 --> 01:43:09,840
Speaker 1: beat Oklahoma, they can beat Ole Miss, they could beat

1873
01:43:09,840 --> 01:43:12,559
Speaker 1: Texas Tech. Like they're gonna have a good chance to

1874
01:43:12,560 --> 01:43:17,320
Speaker 1: beat all these teams, right, So Miami or Georgia Tech

1875
01:43:17,439 --> 01:43:20,639
Speaker 1: obviously they can beat those teams. So I I think

1876
01:43:21,200 --> 01:43:24,960
Speaker 1: Notre Dame at ten and two is one, someone's like Bama.

1877
01:43:25,040 --> 01:43:28,440
Speaker 1: If Bama's ten and two, they're one. All the SEC

1878
01:43:28,560 --> 01:43:31,000
Speaker 1: is getting. I think the big ten more than likely,

1879
01:43:31,040 --> 01:43:35,200
Speaker 1: assuming USC loses this week to Oregon, is gonna get Oregon, Indiana,

1880
01:43:35,320 --> 01:43:38,360
Speaker 1: Ohio State. That's three. I think the SEC is gonna

1881
01:43:38,360 --> 01:43:44,200
Speaker 1: get Georgia, Bama, Ole Miss, if Oklahoma wins out Oklahoma,

1882
01:43:45,120 --> 01:43:51,120
Speaker 1: and potentially Vanderbilt. So that's that's eight. And then you

1883
01:43:51,200 --> 01:43:57,200
Speaker 1: got Notre Dame, Georgia Tech, Texas Tech. And the only

1884
01:43:57,240 --> 01:43:59,200
Speaker 1: reason they did this is so they didn't get sued.

1885
01:43:59,240 --> 01:44:01,880
Speaker 1: But it's so stupid that you have to let in

1886
01:44:02,880 --> 01:44:06,960
Speaker 1: the small school like North Texas or South Aliba or

1887
01:44:07,040 --> 01:44:11,760
Speaker 1: South Florida. We need to scrap that because there's in

1888
01:44:11,920 --> 01:44:14,479
Speaker 1: no world. And listen, I got my start at Frisone State.

1889
01:44:14,880 --> 01:44:17,840
Speaker 1: So last year Boise State that that was cool, and

1890
01:44:17,880 --> 01:44:19,639
Speaker 1: then we watched the game, We're like, yeah, they don't

1891
01:44:19,640 --> 01:44:24,960
Speaker 1: belong here, right, You're telling me that North Texas is

1892
01:44:25,000 --> 01:44:28,960
Speaker 1: better than like Utah, Like what are we doing? I

1893
01:44:29,040 --> 01:44:30,960
Speaker 1: get it. You didn't want to get sued at this

1894
01:44:31,040 --> 01:44:35,240
Speaker 1: point in time, Like who cares? It pains me to

1895
01:44:35,280 --> 01:44:38,439
Speaker 1: say this, but because I was. I was texting with

1896
01:44:38,479 --> 01:44:40,360
Speaker 1: someone the other day. It's like, Hey, should my guy

1897
01:44:40,400 --> 01:44:42,920
Speaker 1: Tim Skipper at UCLA go to Colorado State and take

1898
01:44:42,920 --> 01:44:47,320
Speaker 1: over the job he coached there with Jim mcawaine before

1899
01:44:47,360 --> 01:44:49,640
Speaker 1: they went to Florida. And if he asked me and

1900
01:44:49,680 --> 01:44:51,240
Speaker 1: he has it, I mean I haven't talked to him

1901
01:44:51,240 --> 01:44:54,240
Speaker 1: in a couple of weeks. I would say, dude, you're

1902
01:44:54,320 --> 01:44:57,240
Speaker 1: much better off become someone assistants head coach in the

1903
01:44:57,320 --> 01:45:00,000
Speaker 1: SEC or the Big ten, like be the number two,

1904
01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:02,960
Speaker 1: to be the defensive coordinator, be the assistant coach, linebacker coach.

1905
01:45:03,640 --> 01:45:05,719
Speaker 1: It's easier to become a head coach at a powerful

1906
01:45:05,880 --> 01:45:08,880
Speaker 1: program that way than it is coaching with these little guys.

1907
01:45:09,000 --> 01:45:10,840
Speaker 1: The little guys are done. And it pains me to

1908
01:45:10,840 --> 01:45:15,760
Speaker 1: say this, But Oregon State, Washington State, Boise State, that

1909
01:45:15,840 --> 01:45:20,000
Speaker 1: those schools are so much more likely to become Montana

1910
01:45:20,160 --> 01:45:22,880
Speaker 1: and UC Davis and McNee State than they ever are

1911
01:45:22,960 --> 01:45:25,680
Speaker 1: to be in the Big ten in the SEC. And

1912
01:45:25,720 --> 01:45:27,680
Speaker 1: it's going to become the NFL. It's gonna be the

1913
01:45:27,760 --> 01:45:30,519
Speaker 1: NFL and then basically minor league football, which is D one,

1914
01:45:30,560 --> 01:45:34,160
Speaker 1: double A. In those programs, when guys miss on them,

1915
01:45:34,640 --> 01:45:38,360
Speaker 1: they will evaluate their players and steal them. But right

1916
01:45:38,400 --> 01:45:41,120
Speaker 1: now you are just getting all your players stolen from

1917
01:45:41,160 --> 01:45:43,680
Speaker 1: so from year to year, even if you are a

1918
01:45:43,680 --> 01:45:48,040
Speaker 1: good coach, you could lose half your players that and

1919
01:45:48,120 --> 01:45:51,679
Speaker 1: especially at that level if you're I was texting someone

1920
01:45:51,680 --> 01:45:53,559
Speaker 1: this the other day. When I was at Fresno State

1921
01:45:54,000 --> 01:45:56,479
Speaker 1: in like the heyday of Pat Hill, he would have

1922
01:45:56,560 --> 01:46:00,280
Speaker 1: lost on average, I don't know, ten plus guys year.

1923
01:46:01,120 --> 01:46:03,280
Speaker 1: That there's not a world where all the guys that

1924
01:46:03,280 --> 01:46:06,360
Speaker 1: got drafted from Fresnel State over like a decade long period,

1925
01:46:07,080 --> 01:46:10,760
Speaker 1: all the top programs Oregon, SC's, Texas, Ohio State, they

1926
01:46:10,800 --> 01:46:13,880
Speaker 1: would have stolen all these players because you have to

1927
01:46:13,920 --> 01:46:17,240
Speaker 1: play those programs for money, and then when you do,

1928
01:46:17,280 --> 01:46:19,960
Speaker 1: they just evaluate your guys and then the programs in

1929
01:46:20,040 --> 01:46:23,479
Speaker 1: their conference. Right if I'm Fresne State and I play

1930
01:46:24,640 --> 01:46:28,040
Speaker 1: if I play Ohio State, if I play Texas A

1931
01:46:28,160 --> 01:46:31,040
Speaker 1: and M, and I play Oregon as my non conference

1932
01:46:31,080 --> 01:46:33,519
Speaker 1: to make a bunch of money. Well, then all the

1933
01:46:33,560 --> 01:46:37,800
Speaker 1: other programs, including those programs in their conference, watch that

1934
01:46:37,920 --> 01:46:41,360
Speaker 1: cross tape, see my good players, and they get pampered

1935
01:46:41,360 --> 01:46:44,479
Speaker 1: with and stolen and it sucks. So it's like we

1936
01:46:44,560 --> 01:46:46,960
Speaker 1: just need to acknowledge it and just realize like that

1937
01:46:47,200 --> 01:46:50,920
Speaker 1: that division of football I don't think even comes close

1938
01:46:50,960 --> 01:46:54,160
Speaker 1: to existing as it does now in five years. I

1939
01:46:54,200 --> 01:46:57,200
Speaker 1: don't see how it does. It's not a sustainable model,

1940
01:46:57,640 --> 01:46:59,960
Speaker 1: and it pains me and it saddens me to say that.

1941
01:47:00,560 --> 01:47:04,760
Speaker 1: But I think it all becomes whatever the two major conferences,

1942
01:47:04,760 --> 01:47:07,320
Speaker 1: and they'll keep bringing people in or in some form

1943
01:47:07,400 --> 01:47:11,320
Speaker 1: or fashion, and then everyone else and they'll all, like

1944
01:47:11,479 --> 01:47:17,839
Speaker 1: Montana will be no different than Boise State. The volume