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Speaker 1: frank stamfoll I am Grace sousman e y on the
Speaker 1: way in just a moment, Frankie, what's happening? Rank you?
Speaker 1: What's up? Man? Week one? Officially in the books, we
Speaker 1: had some pretty good games last night. Honestly, the first
Speaker 1: game was awesome. I would say it's probably the game
Speaker 1: of the week, just driving up and down the field
Speaker 1: with Shawn Watson and Drew Brees. Will recap those games
Speaker 1: a little bit here in the first segment. The second
Speaker 1: game not nearly as exciting, but I think we all
Speaker 1: expected that. But still a lot of fantasy football takeaways. Nonetheless, Greggy,
Speaker 1: how did you sleep last night? I slept well, man,
Speaker 1: I slept really, really well. It was good to wake
Speaker 1: up this morning. How did you stay up? I'm gonna
Speaker 1: guess you you watched none? No, no, no, that's centrue.
Speaker 1: You watched the first quarter of the Raiders Broncos and
Speaker 1: went to bed the first half alright, I wasn't far off,
Speaker 1: was the first half? Once let's got your sleeping habits
Speaker 1: down almost, You're close. It's best friends, man, would you
Speaker 1: did you watch the whole game? I did watch the
Speaker 1: whole game. I went to bes way too late. Well,
Speaker 1: I bet on the Broncos, so we didn't go well,
Speaker 1: I had to, you know, just stay up till the
Speaker 1: end to see what happened. Let's bring it ey, what's happening, man, boys,
Speaker 1: good to be here. Yeah, I also watched the whole game.
Speaker 1: Frank was up to one thirty and was awake at
Speaker 1: four on my way to the airports. So not as uh,
Speaker 1: not as well rested well, but yeah, doing Okay, I
Speaker 1: think we should bring up the fact that, like, you're
Speaker 1: here at this table. Yes, yes, I'm sure we work
Speaker 1: on a thirty fourth Street you'd say in Manhattan, Yes, yea,
Speaker 1: I am here at this table. We weren't street some
Speaker 1: other people that are on the show, was was working
Speaker 1: on thirty fourth Street yesterday? They didn't make an appearance here,
Speaker 1: just say no. Yeah, it was weird to be in
Speaker 1: New York and not see you guys. Uh. It's one
Speaker 1: of those things you come in you know, your your
Speaker 1: day is just kind of filled with menal tasks and
Speaker 1: you know right now I'm working one day a week,
Speaker 1: and the least I can do is show up and
Speaker 1: be there for the show. That's that's what I did.
Speaker 1: And uh, but yeah, pumped up to talk football with
Speaker 1: you guys. I wish I could be on every day
Speaker 1: with you, schedules permitting, I'm here as often as possible. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: I was just joking e y uh and New York
Speaker 1: last night and tonight, so I was grosser street at
Speaker 1: the garden too busy of course to hang best friends.
Speaker 1: But that's a guy and its cancer taking home betweenty
Speaker 1: four seven titles? Greg? How about that? And his kids
Speaker 1: and now has more more title wins and than other people.
Speaker 1: Too soon? Come on, and we still have a lot
Speaker 1: of time left. All right, let me let me get
Speaker 1: into last night's games before we hit the break. Let's
Speaker 1: start out with the later game that I didn't watch.
Speaker 1: You guys to help me out. Let me start off
Speaker 1: with Broncos Raiders. People are raving about the Raiders. Now, Um,
Speaker 1: is this one of those un theory type of things.
Speaker 1: E Y was like, all right, they lost Antonio Brown.
Speaker 1: Now they're winning, not in spite of him, another winning
Speaker 1: because he's gone, and they're simply better. Yeah. Well, I mean,
Speaker 1: let's not get ourselves. Skill wise, they're not better. But
Speaker 1: I do believe, uh, you know, sometimes it's as fantasy
Speaker 1: analysts or experts or whatever you wanna call us, I
Speaker 1: call myself an enthusiast. Um For me, a thing like
Speaker 1: that can can bring a locker room together. And the
Speaker 1: reality is is football is a team sport. There's not
Speaker 1: one guy that's going to to make or break anyone team.
Speaker 1: He was the best player on the team. You can't
Speaker 1: tell me any anything otherwise. But obviously it was a
Speaker 1: massive distraction from day one. Um barely practiced, was barely
Speaker 1: a training camp, probably probably wasn't in a whole lot
Speaker 1: of meetings. It wasn't really around. The guys aren't going
Speaker 1: to miss him because most of them didn't even know him.
Speaker 1: Um and and the Raiders look decent. Tyroll Williams looked
Speaker 1: real good, Derek Carr looked, you know, pretty efficient, better
Speaker 1: than I think that most anyone thought he was going
Speaker 1: to be without Antonio Brown. So yeah, it's it's exciting.
Speaker 1: The NFL is a better place when the Raiders are
Speaker 1: a good football team. Yeah, I want to piggyback off
Speaker 1: that as well. I don't think that they're better off
Speaker 1: without Antonio Brown, but I actually think Antonio Brown not
Speaker 1: being with the Oakland Raiders is better for everybody involved
Speaker 1: on this team from a fantasy perspective, because the way
Speaker 1: that I'm looking at it, I think that it's really
Speaker 1: concentrated amongst three people. It's really just gonna be Tyroll Williams,
Speaker 1: Darren Waller, and Josh Jacobs. And that's a good thing
Speaker 1: because the more that we can concentrate fantasy production, uh,
Speaker 1: the more opportunity that the easier it is to predict
Speaker 1: moving forward weekend and week out. Darren Waller played fifty
Speaker 1: five of fifty five offensive snaps yesterday. He played of
Speaker 1: the snaps, he looked really really good. Clus seven of
Speaker 1: eight targets for seventy yards. Looks like he is going
Speaker 1: to fill that Jared Cook roll from a year ago
Speaker 1: looked explosive. Tyrol Williams same thing. He had a few
Speaker 1: deep passes down the field. Didn't know Derek Carr had
Speaker 1: it in him, but ultimately, you know Tyro Williams. I
Speaker 1: said this yesterday when we were previewing this game from
Speaker 1: a betting perspective on the FANDUL Hurry up, Greg. Honestly,
Speaker 1: I might have you know downplayed Tyroll Williams talent, and
Speaker 1: I said, I don't know that he can hang as
Speaker 1: a wide receiver one in the NFL. Well, you know what,
Speaker 1: in his first opportunity to do so, he looked pretty
Speaker 1: damn good. Seven targets, six receptions over a hundred yards
Speaker 1: and a touchdown. And Josh Jacobs man twenty three carries
Speaker 1: that was second among all running backs in Week one,
Speaker 1: behind only Marlon Mack. He had eight red zone carries
Speaker 1: greg that led the NFL in Week one. So look,
Speaker 1: if Josh Jacobs is getting twenty twenty five touches weekend
Speaker 1: and week out, he's going to be a high end
Speaker 1: RB two, borderline RB one. Yeah, absolutely, Josh Jacobs, that
Speaker 1: usage continues, he's going to absolutely be a mortal line
Speaker 1: running back one of the season. I thought you said
Speaker 1: it really nicely, Frank, that Antonio Bryants all condensed. We
Speaker 1: know what we're getting, which is nice with Tyrielle Williams,
Speaker 1: with Darren Waller, with a lot of Josh Jacobs, and
Speaker 1: that's that's it. And if you picked up hunk to
Speaker 1: Ren for I think it's safe to say you could
Speaker 1: drop him absolutely. Well, that's some more of that coming
Speaker 1: up in just a moment. The early game was the
Speaker 1: fun game Saints and Texans, arguably the game of the week,
Speaker 1: and we had an overtime time. But last night between
Speaker 1: the two good teams, the Saints and the Texans, you
Speaker 1: saw Bill O'Brien's fallacies, you saw the struggles on the
Speaker 1: defensive end of the Texans. Ultimately a fifty eight yard
Speaker 1: field will seals the deal for Will Lutts and the Saints.
Speaker 1: I was very, very impressed with the Texas last night, Frank.
Speaker 1: It was status quo as always for them. Deshaun Watson
Speaker 1: looked amazing. DeAndre Hopkins looked awesome as well. Surprised Will
Speaker 1: Fuller didn't get worked in a little bit more. He
Speaker 1: did have a phenomenal catch, but outside of that wasn't
Speaker 1: really targeted much. Duke Johnson played on forty one sixty
Speaker 1: four snaps yesterday and Carlos Hyde played on the other
Speaker 1: twenty three, So this seems like it's basically a two
Speaker 1: thirds split in favor of Duke Johnson, which is pretty
Speaker 1: much what we expected. But Carlos Hide, we'll talk about
Speaker 1: this a little bit more when we get back. We'll
Speaker 1: talk about Weaver wired today. Carlos Hide, looks like you
Speaker 1: still might have a little bit something left in the
Speaker 1: tank here. Greg, absolutely absolutely. We'll see about Carl Lewis
Speaker 1: side who was left for dead, talk about him picking
Speaker 1: him off the way over wire and who else to
Speaker 1: grab when we return. You're on the VFF wait talk
Speaker 1: with Teddy Covers at Ralph Michaels. I think the public
Speaker 1: is going to be on Tennessee because a week one results.
Speaker 1: When you have eighteen penalties like the Browns had eighteen
Speaker 1: accepted penalties, you're never gonna win that game. The Browns
Speaker 1: basically their newness, their non familiarity, just the penalties were
Speaker 1: just absurd. I think if you want Tennessee, play it
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Speaker 1: Frank I'm Greg Eise here as well. We mentioned Carlo
Speaker 1: Side and what he did last night. It was eight
Speaker 1: flos rushing yards on not that many carries. He was
Speaker 1: the feature back with with Do Jackson, Do Jackson, Duke
Speaker 1: Johnson having his role, checkson having his role obviously Frankie,
Speaker 1: but it was more. It was a bigger role that
Speaker 1: we've seen in Cleveland. But it was still one b role.
Speaker 1: I thought for a lot to Carlos Tide when it
Speaker 1: comes to running the football in the PVR league. Johnson's
Speaker 1: exactly who he thought he was. Carlos Hide more so
Speaker 1: Carlos Hides out there on the waiver wire. How much
Speaker 1: you're spending this week? Not much. I'll look at two
Speaker 1: to three percent, and in PPR, I mean even less
Speaker 1: than that one to two percent. But it is a
Speaker 1: running back that's seeing a third of the snaps on
Speaker 1: one of the most explosive offenses in the NFL. And
Speaker 1: I have a feeling that if they would have got
Speaker 1: down on the goal line, you know, a one yard
Speaker 1: run situation, it's probably Carlos Hyde who is on the field. So,
Speaker 1: you know, two to three percent, two to four percent,
Speaker 1: you know, maybe a little bit more aggressive if you
Speaker 1: own Duke Johnson and you just want to lock up
Speaker 1: both of those guys in the backfield. But as I mentioned,
Speaker 1: it's really a you know, two thirds split for Duke Johnson,
Speaker 1: like a sixty five percent snap share for Duke, thirty
Speaker 1: five percent for Carlos Hide. But he did look good.
Speaker 1: Ten rushing attempts for eighty three yards eight point three
Speaker 1: yards per carry, not use much in the past game.
Speaker 1: That's pretty much what we expected. But you know, there
Speaker 1: are a few of the running backs that we'll talk
Speaker 1: about that I like more than Carlos Hyde. He's more
Speaker 1: of one of the lower end running backs that's target
Speaker 1: this Well, let's break into those running backs that works hard.
Speaker 1: Who is the number one guy, Eric Young this week
Speaker 1: off the waiver wire that you want to pick up.
Speaker 1: I mean, if you play in a league that I'm
Speaker 1: not in, that Malcolm Brown is available, but if you
Speaker 1: play in one with me, and I took him probably
Speaker 1: probably earlier than you were thinking. And and uh, this
Speaker 1: week he showed why. I mean, this is a guy
Speaker 1: that the Rams spend money on to keep him around.
Speaker 1: You know that you just got to follow the money.
Speaker 1: And like I said, you can't listen to what they say.
Speaker 1: You can only listen to what they do. And what
Speaker 1: they did is they paid this guy a bunch of
Speaker 1: money when other teams were trying to take him away.
Speaker 1: I understand that Darryl Henderson was drafted high, but he
Speaker 1: is a rookie in a very complex offense, and they
Speaker 1: like Malcolm Brown. Malcolm Brown is the number two there,
Speaker 1: and uh, he's he's worth his weight in gold, I believe. Yeah.
Speaker 1: For me, I'm gonna go a little bit of a
Speaker 1: different round. I do like Malcolm Brown and agree that
Speaker 1: he should be added, especially in standard or non PPR
Speaker 1: leagues where the touchdown counts for so much in leagues
Speaker 1: like that. But I'm looking at Ronald Jones and Giovanni
Speaker 1: Bernard now things are still kind of up in the air.
Speaker 1: When it comes to Joe Mixon, he's dealing with an
Speaker 1: ankle injury. They're saying he's day to day, still has
Speaker 1: a chance to play in Week two. Unlike Kevin Coleman,
Speaker 1: who's dealing with a high ankle sprain, he's already been
Speaker 1: ruled out for the next couple of weeks. Joe Mixon
Speaker 1: is still a chance he can play, but if he doesn't,
Speaker 1: it might only This might only be a short term
Speaker 1: add but every week matters in fantasy football, and if
Speaker 1: Joe Mixon is out, Gio Bernard is easily a top
Speaker 1: twenty four running back. We saw last year in weeks
Speaker 1: three and four when Joe Mixon did not play, Giovanni
Speaker 1: Bernard average ninety one total yards per game, eighteen touches
Speaker 1: per game, had three rushing touchdowns in those two games
Speaker 1: as well. And then when it comes to Ronald Jones,
Speaker 1: I think this could actually have some staying power here.
Speaker 1: He has some long term, long lasting effect for fantasy.
Speaker 1: I only played one percent of the snaps this week.
Speaker 1: I understand that it was third most on the team
Speaker 1: behind darry O Goomba Wally and Peyton Barber, but he
Speaker 1: was clearly the most explosive running back on the team
Speaker 1: thirteen rushes for seventy five yards five point eight yards
Speaker 1: per carry. He had three red zone wushing attempts this
Speaker 1: past week as well, while Peyton Barber only had one.
Speaker 1: There was a report that came out just earlier today
Speaker 1: where um Bruce Arians basically said they're gonna go with
Speaker 1: a similar approach. Peyton Barber is going to start, and
Speaker 1: they're gonna mix in Ronald Jones and if he has
Speaker 1: the hot hand and they're going to use him. I
Speaker 1: fully believe that Ronald Jones is better than Peyton Barber,
Speaker 1: and we're going to continue to see that the further
Speaker 1: that the season goes along. He has the pedigree. In
Speaker 1: the off season, he added muscle mass. He looked more confident,
Speaker 1: you know, in Week one running the football than any
Speaker 1: time he did last year. So to me, Greg, it's
Speaker 1: Giovanni Bernard and Ronald Jones, but I don't think that
Speaker 1: Malcolm Brown is that far behind those guys. I just
Speaker 1: think that as long as Todd Gurley is healthy, it's
Speaker 1: very obvious that Malcolm Brown is the one B on
Speaker 1: the Rams offense. Yeah, so Malcolm Brown is that one B.
Speaker 1: And it's very very frustrating, more so than anything else
Speaker 1: to the Todd Gurley owner who's going to have to
Speaker 1: deal with that. I'm e're gonna feel comfortable for growing
Speaker 1: Malcolm Brown in there. It was a long time. I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna feel comfortable in week two starting Malcolm Brown
Speaker 1: as a flex option. Probably not. You're you're almost hoping
Speaker 1: for a touchdown for me as I look at the
Speaker 1: waiver wire. Sure he scored two touchdowns a week one
Speaker 1: he did. He had all five red zone rushing attempts.
Speaker 1: Todd Gurley had zero. Yes, I recognized that and one.
Speaker 1: And so I said to you, you sound very angry.
Speaker 1: Is it because you're the girly owner? Yes, that's clarify.
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know if you have like a
Speaker 1: personal vendetta against Malcolm Brown. I love Malcolm Brown. I
Speaker 1: told Malcolm Brown up also have him as a handcuff
Speaker 1: in in GST and we don't even have Todd Gurley.
Speaker 1: We just drafted as I forced the Yeah, he was
Speaker 1: a guy I wanted absolutely this exactly, you and I
Speaker 1: were on him. It makes a lot of sense. So
Speaker 1: the frustrating part about this is some of the times
Speaker 1: that Malcolm Brown got those red zone carries, it was
Speaker 1: Malcolm Brown drive right like they had girl on the
Speaker 1: bench and Malcolm Brown drove them down the field. But
Speaker 1: one time where it was a girly drive and girlies
Speaker 1: droving down the field, droving down the field that got
Speaker 1: to the ten yard line. But in Darrel Henderson and
Speaker 1: I'm like, now, girls not even saying the game on
Speaker 1: his own drives. That's what can earns me as a
Speaker 1: Todd Gurley owner. Not even so that they're splitting carries
Speaker 1: in a way, it's that he was taking out on
Speaker 1: a drive that was all him, Rodell Henderson. So people
Speaker 1: have said they don't want big lineman falling on his
Speaker 1: knee out of the short stage. That's what I said yesterday,
Speaker 1: And it was a short yard of situation of like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, I'm very concerned about the situation. We're
Speaker 1: gonna see how it plays out ultimately. Now go into
Speaker 1: where you're talking about with Tampa Bay and Daria Goomo
Speaker 1: wal a Um and Ronald Jones. I think the part
Speaker 1: and I don't want you glossed over it, but had
Speaker 1: the most snaps and of anybody the pass catch. He's
Speaker 1: a pass catcher running back. And say what you will
Speaker 1: with the Bucks, I think they're gonna be down more
Speaker 1: often than not this season. They're gonna be chasing points,
Speaker 1: They're gonna be chasing a comeback, which I believe me.
Speaker 1: Goo is gonna be on the field more than anybody.
Speaker 1: Ronald Jones definitely looked the most explosive. But I'm not
Speaker 1: going all in here and dropping the bag, as some
Speaker 1: would say on Ronald Jones. I'm just not gonna do it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna be too aggressive on this either. You know,
Speaker 1: if you really need running back help, maybe five to
Speaker 1: six percent, But honestly, I'm not going higher than for
Speaker 1: any of the running backs. I think that this is
Speaker 1: a week to be aggressive on wide receivers and tight ends.
Speaker 1: And this is something we talked about a lot throughout
Speaker 1: draft season. Why we're so aggressive on running backs early
Speaker 1: on in fantasy football, because there's so many wide receivers
Speaker 1: that emerge off the waiver wire. Now, it's not that
Speaker 1: we know that these wide receivers are going to be
Speaker 1: consistent options weekend and week out, but we have seen
Speaker 1: a lot of wide receivers emerge off waivers and I
Speaker 1: think that's a lot of the reason why at least
Speaker 1: I target running backs early on in fantasy drafts, because
Speaker 1: so many of these wide receivers do emerge. So when
Speaker 1: it comes to Ronald Jones five to six percent, Giovanni Bernard,
Speaker 1: you know, if you're the mixing owner, you should have
Speaker 1: already had Bernard, But if you don't, then you're also
Speaker 1: probably in that five to six percent range. Greg, how
Speaker 1: would you rank Giovanni Bernard, Ronald Jones, and Malcolm Brown? Uh?
Speaker 1: For me? And is there anyone else that you think
Speaker 1: should be in this mix when it comes to running backs?
Speaker 1: So when it comes to run there are there are
Speaker 1: actually you actually wrote them down here, Frankie. I think
Speaker 1: we gotta get ahem most there. And it's the same
Speaker 1: reason before you bear ranking, let me just talk about
Speaker 1: most for for a few moments, because for me, everybody
Speaker 1: knows this. I've said this, I banged this drum for
Speaker 1: years on Kyle Shadahan. That's why I was higher on
Speaker 1: Tevin Coleman than others. And Tevin Coleman and Matt Brina
Speaker 1: this past Sunday both look good and then Coleman gets hurt.
Speaker 1: Matt Brenda is not in a position physically to get
Speaker 1: twenty touches a game. He cannot handle it. They are
Speaker 1: going to use a second running back, and that running
Speaker 1: back clearly right now is where he Moster. I understand
Speaker 1: a lot of his touches last weekend. Kwan Brina, no surprise,
Speaker 1: left the game due to dehydration issues. It's going to
Speaker 1: happen weekend and week out. Whether it's dehydration, whether it's
Speaker 1: getting the win knocked out of him, whether it's a
Speaker 1: leg and ankle, a hamstring, or growing. It doesn't matter.
Speaker 1: Matt Brena can't stay on the field, So there's going
Speaker 1: to be somebody else that steps up, and I believe
Speaker 1: after looking at it this past Sunday, it's going to
Speaker 1: be most He has a role here. So I like
Speaker 1: Whee Moster, just like I like the Redskins duo of
Speaker 1: Adrian Peterson and Chris Thompson. If Darius Guys is out
Speaker 1: and it looks like he has a sprain, Minsk is
Speaker 1: a tornments disc is something going on that knee. That
Speaker 1: means Adrian Peterson's going to be active. He's going to
Speaker 1: have a role. Also, if you will leave like so
Speaker 1: many others, that Washington is going to be coming from behind.
Speaker 1: Chris Thompson needs quote in the best shape of his
Speaker 1: life and feeling better than he ever has. Thompson's role
Speaker 1: and you saw it on Sunday, Frank, it hasn't changed.
Speaker 1: He's the third down guy. He's the passing down back.
Speaker 1: His role hasn't changed. And you know from years of
Speaker 1: experience that Adrian Peterson doesn't catch the football. So maybe
Speaker 1: Darius Guys will be a three down back. He's not yet.
Speaker 1: Maybe Adrian Peterson will get back in the mix. He's
Speaker 1: not yet. The one thing that is secure is Chris Thompson.
Speaker 1: I want Chris Thompson. I want Rhee Moster, I want
Speaker 1: Malcolm Brown. I want all these guys, not none of
Speaker 1: them more from like five percent of my budget. But
Speaker 1: I think all of them are around the same level.
Speaker 1: I don't have any any of them significantly above. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I would agree with that. I'll throw this to
Speaker 1: u UI real quick, we're coming up on a Berson away, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: so we'll throw the y when we come back. But overall, yeah,
Speaker 1: I agree with you. I tweeted this out yesterday. I
Speaker 1: think Mostart is going to be one of the most
Speaker 1: under raided waiver wire pickups here. We want Kyle Shanahan
Speaker 1: running backs for Fantasy football that Greta cannot handle a
Speaker 1: full workload. As you mentioned Greg Mostart, he looked really
Speaker 1: good last year. He looked pretty good in Week one too,
Speaker 1: So Kevin Coleman out the next couple of weeks, and
Speaker 1: if anything happens, Tabrita Mostert Skyrocket or be our Salar
Speaker 1: would be too. In that scenario, let's take a break
Speaker 1: with e y s thoughts on all these running macks.
Speaker 1: Will move on to the wide receivers, where we return
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Speaker 1: staffeld I own grace. Let me just jomp write into
Speaker 1: e Y. We need a lot of running backs there
Speaker 1: from Ji Bernard, you mentioned Malcolm Brown, Ronald Jones, Chris Thompson,
Speaker 1: Adrian Peterson, My guy, most how do you see this
Speaker 1: running max? These running backs breaking down on a waiver wire?
Speaker 1: How do you rank it? How are you um budget
Speaker 1: for these guys? What's your plan. It's all around the same.
Speaker 1: I think it just you got to decide, uh if
Speaker 1: you're playing for this week or you're trying to you know,
Speaker 1: do you need a starting running back for this week?
Speaker 1: Because I think what Frank said um with Giovanni Bernard
Speaker 1: is that's probably the guy to go to. The Zach
Speaker 1: Keylor's offense look really good. Uh wow, what an epiphany.
Speaker 1: Make the guy that runs a four or four run
Speaker 1: really fast down the field and throw it to him.
Speaker 1: That's ah, it's a new it's a new us, the
Speaker 1: new world. We're living in a new Cincinnati Bengals. What
Speaker 1: a concept. But the Nivani Bernard is the guy that
Speaker 1: I would want for this week. But Malcolm Brown is
Speaker 1: still the guy that I want one term and I
Speaker 1: agree on on the Ronald Jokes stuff. I read the
Speaker 1: thing that arians named Peyton Barber the starter again and
Speaker 1: it makes me want to put my head through a wall.
Speaker 1: I mean, it was clear he was the best running
Speaker 1: back on the team. I just don't know that it
Speaker 1: matters who's the starter, who plays on the first plan,
Speaker 1: who doesn't? Right, like we saw we saw how it
Speaker 1: wrote down right, like, are they the separation and carries
Speaker 1: or snaps. Rather, it was all within like seven of
Speaker 1: all three of them, right, like, yeah, I have it
Speaker 1: right here. Oomba Wally was twenty six, Peyton Barber was
Speaker 1: twenty five, and Ronald Jones was twenty two, so they're
Speaker 1: all within four yet, so not even seven, so it
Speaker 1: doesn't matter. It's so frustrating too, because most teams really
Speaker 1: have two backs where like to have an early down
Speaker 1: guy and to have like the pass down guys. So
Speaker 1: that would make sense if it was just Ronald Jones
Speaker 1: and Ogomba Wally, and I still think that we can
Speaker 1: get there. That's why I'm talking about this is a
Speaker 1: long term play. I'm not saying that you're gonna use
Speaker 1: Ronald Jones this week, although the matchup against Carolina does
Speaker 1: not look terrible based on what Girley and Malcolm Brown
Speaker 1: just didn't week one. But overall, I think it won't
Speaker 1: be long before Ronald Jones really does take over as
Speaker 1: like the early down running back. And then if they're
Speaker 1: trailing in games or if they're playing catch up, they
Speaker 1: have o Goomba Wally as that pass catching running back. Greg.
Speaker 1: If I'm ranking these guys, I'm going Giovanni Bernard first,
Speaker 1: and then I'm going Ronald Jones, I'm going Malcolm Brown
Speaker 1: love Raheem mostert Uh. He played only twenty snaps in
Speaker 1: Week one, but not nine rushes for forty yards four
Speaker 1: point four yards per carry. Last, you're only thirty thirty
Speaker 1: four carries overall, extremely small sample size, but seven point
Speaker 1: seven yards per carry. And as we've mentioned Kyle Shanahan
Speaker 1: running backs, you just want to own these players when
Speaker 1: it comes to fantasy football. It's not like Matt Breeda
Speaker 1: has been the model of health either. And then if
Speaker 1: you're playing PPR, I would put Chris Thompson as the
Speaker 1: next running back up. If you're playing standard, I would
Speaker 1: put Adrian Peterson as the next running back up. And
Speaker 1: then after that it's just if you're play in deeper leagues,
Speaker 1: I would look at Darren Sprowls. Just I understand it's
Speaker 1: Darren Sprowles, but exposure to a really good Eagles offense.
Speaker 1: He played twenty two snaps, that was more than Jordan Howard.
Speaker 1: He had twelve touches in Week one as well, five
Speaker 1: point two yards per carry. And then after him, I
Speaker 1: would have Carlos Hide. But it's not a bad week
Speaker 1: for running backs, Greig, but I would argue the wide
Speaker 1: receivers are much better than the running backs on waiver
Speaker 1: wire after Week one. I would totally agree. As I said,
Speaker 1: I'm not spending more than five or six percent of
Speaker 1: my budget on any of these guys this week. But ultimately,
Speaker 1: you know they're nice, they're nice death to have, and
Speaker 1: we'll see what they could come up to do. I
Speaker 1: agree with frank we look at the running backs this week,
Speaker 1: you want to look a little bit long term. That's
Speaker 1: why Ronald Jones is a top options on. Malcolm Brown
Speaker 1: is tom option raheem moastered as well. Let's move on
Speaker 1: to those wide receivers, Frankie, And at the end of
Speaker 1: our draft, almost everywhere I begged you to for us
Speaker 1: to draft John Brown and Jameson Crowd is a guy
Speaker 1: that I thought climbed throughout draft season, like people saw
Speaker 1: how the Jets were using him and they liked him.
Speaker 1: And James Crowd of John Brown, both had monstrous games
Speaker 1: in their own right this past Sunday. But the man
Speaker 1: that I always surprised everybody, but surprised everybody were the rookies.
Speaker 1: Hollywood Brown in particular, scary Terry McLaurin as well, and
Speaker 1: DK Metcalf had a role here UM for Seattle. These
Speaker 1: three rookies really really jumped off the page for us,
Speaker 1: of course, starting with Hollywood Brown in the first half
Speaker 1: UM in that big blowout in Miami. Or Ke's Brown
Speaker 1: was amazing, but the naysayers were points and he didn't
Speaker 1: really play that many snaps. He didn't need to. He
Speaker 1: didn't really have many targets or many receptions. He didn't
Speaker 1: need to do any of those things. But we want
Speaker 1: to project going forward. Jamison Crowder and Steve Sataboy has
Speaker 1: a great stat Jamison Crowder had more receptions than markets
Speaker 1: Brown played snaps. It's insane, right like it's it's a
Speaker 1: it's at and it's true. So what do you take
Speaker 1: of Markey's Brown and how much you're spending on I
Speaker 1: will start with Jamison Crowder and John Brown real quick.
Speaker 1: The only reason I had those names on the list
Speaker 1: is because they're less than six owned in YAHOO League.
Speaker 1: So just see if they're available. If you play in
Speaker 1: ten team leagues, those players should be owned. That's John
Speaker 1: Brown and Jamison Crowder. I agree that in your standard
Speaker 1: twelve team leagues, those players were probably drafted, but I
Speaker 1: thought it was worth mentioning throwing their names out there
Speaker 1: and make sure that they are owned. When it comes
Speaker 1: to Mark's Brown, I think he's going to be a
Speaker 1: very boomer bust option. I see a lot of DeShawn
Speaker 1: Jackson in his game. He is extremely fast. His repertoire
Speaker 1: was on full display this past week. Only playing fourteen snaps,
Speaker 1: but he took a quick slant to the house, and
Speaker 1: he also got behind the defense and caught a deep
Speaker 1: pass that went through the air over the top. So
Speaker 1: you know, he showed what he can do on limited
Speaker 1: snap ups. But I think moving forward, they're still going
Speaker 1: to want to run the football, and they're still Mark
Speaker 1: Andrews in this offense, and they're still Miles Boykins. So
Speaker 1: while I think that he's an explosive player and he
Speaker 1: has upside you can take any one catch to the
Speaker 1: house for a touchdown, I don't know how consistent his
Speaker 1: targets are going to be. And that's why I would
Speaker 1: argue Greg that Scary Terry McLaren might actually be the
Speaker 1: top waiver wire add this week over Hollywood Brown. I
Speaker 1: just think that there could be a little bit more
Speaker 1: consistency there Adam McLaren versus Mark He's Hollywood Brown. Well,
Speaker 1: I think that's something we have to figure out right,
Speaker 1: that consistency and who we trust more going forward. McLaren
Speaker 1: had a good opportunity this week and he won't pay
Speaker 1: major dividens. We thought would be Tray Quinn, it wasn't.
Speaker 1: It was McLaren. Even though Quinn didn't catch a touchdown. Um,
Speaker 1: Hollywood Brown though lit off the pages, jumped right off
Speaker 1: it as hell e y. As he gets healthier, there
Speaker 1: may be more snaps available to him. Yeah, I believe that.
Speaker 1: I mean, like he said, he didn't have to play,
Speaker 1: Like you know, Lamar Jackson didn't play the whole game.
Speaker 1: He was hurt for them for the majority of training camp. Uh,
Speaker 1: and there's no sense of risking a player of that caliber.
Speaker 1: I think you mean he's a he's a speed guy
Speaker 1: with I'm pretty sure it was a hamstring injury, so
Speaker 1: they're just watching his reps. I do believe I agree
Speaker 1: with what you say that he is going to be
Speaker 1: similar to Vincent Jackson. Um, I think he will be
Speaker 1: more reliable than or not Vincent Jackson, sorry Deshaun Jackson,
Speaker 1: but he would be more reliable. I think he's probably
Speaker 1: the number one waiver wire guy to grab and but McLaurin, Uh, Look,
Speaker 1: the Washington Redskins are going to be losing and are
Speaker 1: going to be throwing the ball at the end of
Speaker 1: almost every single football game, and McLaren could be the
Speaker 1: number one receiver there. So that's always a valuable guy
Speaker 1: to have in fancy. Here's what you have to ask
Speaker 1: yourself as well, Greg, when pinning Marky's Brown up against
Speaker 1: Terry McLaurin on the waiver wire, you have to ask yourself,
Speaker 1: how much of what we saw against the Miami Dolphins
Speaker 1: is real? Because they are a god awful football correct?
Speaker 1: And you know I said this last week. I still
Speaker 1: stand by it. The strength of their defense is their
Speaker 1: secondary is Avian Howard is still a really good player
Speaker 1: make of Fitzpatrick is a I think up and coming
Speaker 1: player as well, second year player for the Miami Dolphins.
Speaker 1: It didn't show in Week one. I understand that, But
Speaker 1: you have to weigh how efficient that offense was, Greg,
Speaker 1: how much of that was real? Right? How much of
Speaker 1: what Lamar Jackson did as a passer in week one
Speaker 1: is real? Is that something that we can actually hang
Speaker 1: our hat on moving forward, because if not, if we don't,
Speaker 1: if we still think that they're going to run the
Speaker 1: football a lot with Mark ingram In, Justice Hill and
Speaker 1: Gus Edwards, then that's why I think I'm slightly leaning
Speaker 1: with Terry McLaurin. And McLaurin looked great as well. I mean,
Speaker 1: he played the second most snaps among their wide receivers,
Speaker 1: behind only Tray Quinn. Trey Quinn should be owned as well,
Speaker 1: played a ton in the slot, but Terry McLaurin was
Speaker 1: used all over the field and he was used in
Speaker 1: a variety of ways at five catches on seven targets,
Speaker 1: sixteen percent targets share, including a sixty nine yard touchdown
Speaker 1: as well, And when Dwayne Haskins takes over as the
Speaker 1: starting quarterback, I don't know if it's gonna happen soon.
Speaker 1: Maybe it's, you know, the final four or five weeks
Speaker 1: of the season. He played with Terry McLaurin in college.
Speaker 1: They both went to Ohio State. So I think that's
Speaker 1: something that also lends itself to the longevity. If you're
Speaker 1: looking at who has more season long upside and potential,
Speaker 1: it's Terry McLaurin over Marky's Brown, But I do think
Speaker 1: it's close. How much? So what is this number that
Speaker 1: we're spending on these guys? And that's the magic question. Man,
Speaker 1: Let's talk this out right now, at least I'm trying
Speaker 1: to figure it out right now while I put my
Speaker 1: bids in before you do, before you do, while you
Speaker 1: swimmer on that. I think we have to mention John Ross.
Speaker 1: Like John Ross has it's a one A, one B,
Speaker 1: one C. And you can ask, you know, three different
Speaker 1: people finding people, you get completely different. And Ross has
Speaker 1: to be in that conversation, man. And there was somebody
Speaker 1: I was with that's just the show on Sunday and
Speaker 1: he's just like, oh it is is yours Tyler Boyd?
Speaker 1: And it's funny because it's like ridiculous. But I know,
Speaker 1: we had a conversation about John Ross the summer. We
Speaker 1: kind of laughed it off and we kind of like
Speaker 1: jokingly said, is he gonna be the Brandon Cooks of
Speaker 1: this ram style offense that did his best Brandon Cooks inpersonation?
Speaker 1: And we exactly what we said over the summer, and
Speaker 1: you have to wonder and I'll do it out loud.
Speaker 1: Not that Tyler boy had a bad game or something
Speaker 1: because he didn't. But what he is for the foreseeable
Speaker 1: future going to get the number one cornerback covering him.
Speaker 1: John Ross is the number two wide receiver in this
Speaker 1: in this office, He's the number two option this offense.
Speaker 1: I did a fan new video a month ago saying, hey,
Speaker 1: don't sleep on Tyler Iford for this exact reason. John
Speaker 1: Ross is a has been reborn. There's a new coaching
Speaker 1: staff here, there's a new regime in town that aren't
Speaker 1: trying to turn him into a cornerback. They're trying to
Speaker 1: use his speed to route that he can be successful,
Speaker 1: that he provides a different dynamic to this offense than
Speaker 1: anybody else, including a Jan Green, and including Tyler Boyd.
Speaker 1: Sure when a J. Green comes back, Ross will not
Speaker 1: have the same presence, I'm sure, but he's going to
Speaker 1: have eight presents. Cincinnati is a tough spot in Seattle.
Speaker 1: We all thought, so Sletting is going to get it
Speaker 1: was nine and a half point spread. Sletting is going
Speaker 1: to get easier for John Ross. There is a case
Speaker 1: to be made that he should be one A to
Speaker 1: McLaren and the Marquis Brown. How much are we spending
Speaker 1: y on these three guys, I'm with you. I'm really
Speaker 1: excited about what John Ross can be. I mean, the
Speaker 1: truth is is like it's recency biased. You just think
Speaker 1: about the Cincinnati Bengals. You think about what John Ross was,
Speaker 1: uh and how he was. You know, most people going
Speaker 1: into this year, we're saying, look at this guy's that
Speaker 1: he's a bust. He was drafted high, he had all
Speaker 1: these unbelievable intangibles crazy forty time. I think Chris Johnson
Speaker 1: may be the only guy that run faster for aty time,
Speaker 1: I can't remember, but like having him in a guy
Speaker 1: that can design an offense around what he has, John
Speaker 1: Ross is going to take the top off defense is
Speaker 1: It's going to make the Cincinnati Bengals better. Joe Mixon
Speaker 1: is going to prosper when he's healthy, and John Ross
Speaker 1: is gonna be a huge part of this offense. Yes, please,
Speaker 1: Like the number that came to mind immediately was twelve
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Speaker 1: I would rank it Terry McLaurin, Marquis Brown, John Ross.
Speaker 1: It's all really close. I like all three you guys.
Speaker 1: Twelve to fiftent is the number. I'm looking at a
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Speaker 1: I want to jump back in Frank, you said twelve
Speaker 1: to fifty were sent for These top wide receivers are
Speaker 1: all aboard, including Martin's Brown, Terry mclauren, and John Ross,
Speaker 1: And you everlieve ranked it in that order? Right? For me,
Speaker 1: it is mclauren first, Marcy's Brown, and then John Ross.
Speaker 1: But they're all really close. You know. It's interesting because
Speaker 1: I guess the thing was really both McLaren and they
Speaker 1: have the ability to be the wide receiver one on
Speaker 1: their team right now. And the McLaren played. I don't
Speaker 1: think John Ross is ever going to have that a
Speaker 1: bitter not from a target share perspective, but it will
Speaker 1: say this based on this offense. Once A J. Green
Speaker 1: returns and people are gonna be worried about, well, I
Speaker 1: don't want a bid too much on John Ross because
Speaker 1: once Green is back, you know his target chair is
Speaker 1: gonna go down. I mean, this guy clut seven or
Speaker 1: twelve targets. He finished as the wide receiver three overall
Speaker 1: in Week one and he had three drop passes, so
Speaker 1: he left production on the field. I think once this
Speaker 1: Bengals offense is at full strength, John Ross is gonna
Speaker 1: be one of those players that can do a lot
Speaker 1: with a little because defenses are going to be trying
Speaker 1: to stop Tyler Boyd and a J. Green. And you know,
Speaker 1: only if John Ross, if he only gets you know,
Speaker 1: four to five targets a game, if a few of
Speaker 1: those are deep shots, he's someone that can be a volatile,
Speaker 1: boomer bust wide receiver three. So I don't think that,
Speaker 1: you know, John Ross's value is just completely gonna go
Speaker 1: away once A J. Green returns to this offense. Greg plus,
Speaker 1: there's a good chance that he gets hurt again. It's
Speaker 1: Green has been consistently hurt the past couple of years,
Speaker 1: dealing with lower leg injuries. So it's not like once
Speaker 1: he gets healthy, he's gonna remain healthy. So that's you know,
Speaker 1: if you're worried about John Ross for the entirety of
Speaker 1: the season, I would just say keep those things in mind.
Speaker 1: I believe maybe I'm wrong that the Hollywood Brown hype
Speaker 1: is gonna have him being one of the probably the
Speaker 1: most expensive piece here, especially based because he was the
Speaker 1: first round pick this year, this year's NFL Dame being
Speaker 1: related to Antonio browning, these things actually matter. Like it
Speaker 1: sounds ridiculous, but people look at stuff like that. You
Speaker 1: look at Washington, like Terry McLaren doesn't have the name,
Speaker 1: he doesn't have the draft pedigreely, but he can be
Speaker 1: the number one wider. He ran a four point three
Speaker 1: ft targeted seven times on Sunday. His speed score was
Speaker 1: in the ninetent. That's more targets and more. He's Brown
Speaker 1: just saying, and he was on the field a lot.
Speaker 1: As I mentioned, he played over fifty snaps. He was
Speaker 1: behind only Trey Quinn, who's the slot guy. All Richardson
Speaker 1: was non existent. What Richardson snaps were similar, Like they
Speaker 1: ran three wide receiver sets and it was mcclaure in Richardson.
Speaker 1: Do you do you think that if Judary never comes back,
Speaker 1: he's affected or now I think that probably affects Tray
Speaker 1: Quinn more and someone like Paul Richson. I really do
Speaker 1: think that based on what we saw, Like Terry McLaurin
Speaker 1: is a bawler, like I think, I think he's a
Speaker 1: real player, and I think that they're gonna find ways
Speaker 1: to get him involved now based on what he did
Speaker 1: in week one, Oh it was not so Tray Quick
Speaker 1: was actually afterwards that Chris Thompson had ten targets and
Speaker 1: then it was Richardson, McLaurin. Chris Thompson. Sorry, share was massive.
Speaker 1: I actually am buying in on this, like best shape
Speaker 1: of my life. You don't normally see him get that
Speaker 1: many targets in J Gruden's offense. They've always kind of
Speaker 1: like to limit him because of his injury history. I mean,
Speaker 1: getting three carries and ten targets, thirteen running back opportunities,
Speaker 1: that is a massive amount for Chris Thompson. All right,
Speaker 1: let me move on to some of the other wide
Speaker 1: receivers here that are on this list, and that brings
Speaker 1: me to Randall Cob and I know I gotta get
Speaker 1: through a lot of these guys quickly, so let me
Speaker 1: start with Randall Cop and Cole Beasley and Danny Almond olags.
Speaker 1: They're all similar that they're all suck and I would
Speaker 1: I would put me Cole Hardman in that mix just
Speaker 1: in terms of my priority. An Harman in that mix.
Speaker 1: I think he's different than these guys. Randall Cob, Cole Beasley,
Speaker 1: Danny Amadola. They are slot they're slot wide receivers, all veterans, right,
Speaker 1: How would you rate those three guys, e y veteran
Speaker 1: slot wide receivers who certainly showed up to play in
Speaker 1: Week one? Randall Cob against the Giants, Danny A. Mandola
Speaker 1: doing his thing in his first game of Matthew Stafford
Speaker 1: say that, Cole Beasley and Josh Allen. How do you
Speaker 1: rate those three slot wide receivers and how bad do
Speaker 1: you do want him? I think, I mean Amadola he's
Speaker 1: one of those guys like when he looks good man,
Speaker 1: he looks good and it looks like he's going to
Speaker 1: be a pretty good part of the offense, there's going
Speaker 1: to catch a bunch of balls. Is going to be
Speaker 1: Stafford's kind of like, uh, release Valve. I don't think
Speaker 1: the tight end is going to be as strong as
Speaker 1: he was the first week. I just I mean they're
Speaker 1: playing the Cardinals. They've been brutally, historically brutal against the
Speaker 1: tight tight end, and uh, he's a rookie. I just
Speaker 1: don't think they're going Stafford's going to rely on him
Speaker 1: like he did in that game. And then those all
Speaker 1: those kind of like underneath, you know, middle of the
Speaker 1: field balls are going to bed. So I think I
Speaker 1: had to rank one, I rank him the highest. But
Speaker 1: they all are intriguing, you know. I mean, they're all
Speaker 1: kind of the same guy in the same position and
Speaker 1: are probably gonna have around the same production. Definitely all intriguing.
Speaker 1: I would take Randall Cobb of this group. Greg. I
Speaker 1: know he's been so injury prone over the past couple
Speaker 1: of years, but I want exposure to this Dallas Cowboys offense. Man,
Speaker 1: they looked phenomenal under Kellen Moore calling plays there. They
Speaker 1: used a lot of play action. Dak Prescott looked amazing
Speaker 1: as well. Through over four hundred yards and four touchdowns.
Speaker 1: I realized it came against the New York Giants, so
Speaker 1: a lot of quarterbacks are gonna look great against the
Speaker 1: Giants this here, but I won't exposure to that Cowboys offense,
Speaker 1: so I would take Randall Cobb over All. These played
Speaker 1: forty eight of sixty eight snaps on Sunday forty one
Speaker 1: in the slot, saw five targets, four for sixty nine
Speaker 1: and one touchdown as well, so I would take Randall Cobb.
Speaker 1: I would actually rank Cole Beasley second, the reason being
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna be games where Marvin Jones gets
Speaker 1: more involved, and I think that there are legitimately four
Speaker 1: pass catchers on the Lions on a team that still
Speaker 1: won to run the football. They have Baby Tron, they
Speaker 1: have Marvin Jones, they have t J. Hockenson, and they
Speaker 1: have Avendola. When I look at the Buffalo Bills, I
Speaker 1: really just see two pass catchers and John Brown and
Speaker 1: Cole Beasley. They'll probably use Devin Singletary as well, So
Speaker 1: I would rank it ran new Cobb, then Cole Beasley,
Speaker 1: then well dany A Mendel. Dani Avendola would be third
Speaker 1: of that group, and again Greg I know I just
Speaker 1: mentioned him. He's kind of a different player, but I
Speaker 1: would take McCole Hardman over all of them. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: Nkole Harmon, I would also take over all of them
Speaker 1: because as you pointed out to me yesterday, and the
Speaker 1: reason I'm separating because he's different. As you went out
Speaker 1: to me yesterday, he was on the field. He was
Speaker 1: all the fifty three snaps. Fifty three snaps, just twenty
Speaker 1: two of them came into slot. Greg tyreek Hill didn't
Speaker 1: play for the most part. Obviously, Sammy Watkins went nuts
Speaker 1: as teams adjusted to take Sammy Watkins out of the
Speaker 1: game or attempt to take Sammy Watkins in the game. Sure,
Speaker 1: Travis Kelsey is gonna step up, but another wide receiver
Speaker 1: is going to do as well. They're going to use
Speaker 1: Nicole Hardman speed, They're gonna use his ability, and he's
Speaker 1: going to be a valuable fantasy come. I want him
Speaker 1: because I think the upside is simply higher than it
Speaker 1: is for Randall Cobble, Cole Beasley and whoever else we
Speaker 1: just named Dannie A. Mandola. Yeah, I agree, it's what
Speaker 1: I just said about Randall Cobb, but times that by ten.
Speaker 1: I just want exposure to this Chief's offense any way
Speaker 1: that I can get it, and Hardenan looked really good
Speaker 1: in the preseason. He scored two touchdowns in the preseason,
Speaker 1: as I mentioned, played fifty three snaps on Someboday. Twenty
Speaker 1: two of those came in the slot. So yeah, Sammy,
Speaker 1: Watkins and Kelsey are far and away the number one
Speaker 1: and two receivers in this offense. Damian Williams is going
Speaker 1: to see targets out of the backfield. But if you're
Speaker 1: asking me who's gonna see those deep shots, you know,
Speaker 1: one to three of those per game that Tyreek Kill
Speaker 1: normally gets, I think it's going to be me. Cole Hardman,
Speaker 1: so e y, I'll throw it your way as well.
Speaker 1: Where would you rank Hardman amongst all the wide receivers
Speaker 1: we've talked about? Is he, you know, clearly behind the
Speaker 1: Marquis Brown, Terry McLaurin, and John Ross group for you?
Speaker 1: And is he ahead of those slot receivers for for me?
Speaker 1: Is just because I mean, we didn't see him do
Speaker 1: a whole lot, and I I don't know, maybe it's
Speaker 1: a it's a bias, but I think DeMarcus Robinson is
Speaker 1: going to be the guy that that fills in and
Speaker 1: get um some of the volume there when Tyreek Hill
Speaker 1: is out. That that's just what I think. I know
Speaker 1: that they drafted him high by DeMarcus Robinson has been
Speaker 1: in the offense. He's a very similar athlete. I mean,
Speaker 1: nobody is the same as Tyreek Hill, but he's a
Speaker 1: very similar style of athlete and receiver that Tyreek Hill is.
Speaker 1: So I mean, for me, uh, I think McLaren would
Speaker 1: probably be my number one UM. But I'm battling with
Speaker 1: that right now. Do I do I bid more on him?
Speaker 1: Or do I bid more on Markis Brown? Marky's Brown,
Speaker 1: I think is the number one receiver there. But they're
Speaker 1: not going to play the Dolphins every week, and they're
Speaker 1: a running team, like I still believe, and I know
Speaker 1: I said in the off season, and I still believe
Speaker 1: that they're going to be the number one rushing team
Speaker 1: in the NFL. Uh, And they're just not going to
Speaker 1: throw the ball enough to have him. You know that
Speaker 1: that much of I think he's the best player out
Speaker 1: of him. But I mean, the situation is McLaren, they're
Speaker 1: going to be down and they're gonna be throwing the ball.
Speaker 1: I think he's going to be the most valuable by
Speaker 1: the end of the year. They've just been like a
Speaker 1: half four on Baby Shark. DJ Shark. We haven't mentioned
Speaker 1: him yet, should we have. I'm a little bit worried
Speaker 1: about DJ Chark. To touch the touchdown Daddy score was
Speaker 1: an awesome one. He's a big body. He can get
Speaker 1: behind the defense, but that came with Nick Foles in
Speaker 1: the game. Once Gardner Minshew came in, d J Chark
Speaker 1: saw only eight percent of the target chair. Chris Connley
Speaker 1: is the one that I would actually rank ahead of
Speaker 1: d J Chark, so twenty of the target chair. With
Speaker 1: Gardner Minshew at quarterback, Chris Conley played forty four snaps
Speaker 1: compared to d J Chark. Do Do Do Do To
Speaker 1: Do only played forty one, So Chris Conny was on
Speaker 1: the It was close, but they're the outside guys very
Speaker 1: clearly for this offense. GDSD. Westbrook is in the slot.
Speaker 1: Let me move on to the tight ends very quickly here.
Speaker 1: Because there's two names that matter more than anybody else.
Speaker 1: It's t J. Hockinson who proved his role in a major,
Speaker 1: major way yesterday for Detroit. Although Frank has pointed out
Speaker 1: he's owned in quite a few leagues. And then Darren Waller,
Speaker 1: who we speculated over the weekend when this team cut
Speaker 1: Antonio Brown, go pick a Hunter, run fro go, put
Speaker 1: pick up Darren Waller. And I said to you yesterday
Speaker 1: right after our show, is like, dido Darren Waller, And
Speaker 1: You're like, well we we we have Jervis Kelsey. What
Speaker 1: do we what do we ever need him for? It
Speaker 1: was like, you want to stockpile talent. And I say
Speaker 1: this to you, even if Travis Kelsey is your tight end,
Speaker 1: you stockpile talent. You never know what will happen. Darren
Speaker 1: Waller is talented and you saw it last night. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And I will go as far as to say, hot
Speaker 1: take here, I would take Darren Waller ahead of t
Speaker 1: J Hockinson. I understand how amazing Hockinson looked over a
Speaker 1: hundred yards, receiving nine targets, six receptions, scored a touchdown
Speaker 1: as well. He was on the field for over seventy
Speaker 1: of the snaps. But as I mentioned, the Lions have
Speaker 1: four legitimate pass catchers on this team. I didn't even
Speaker 1: mention carry On Johnson, Who's gonna catch the ball out
Speaker 1: of the backfield, and they still want to establish the run.
Speaker 1: They want to run the football there. Darren Waller, I
Speaker 1: believe will be the number two target getter on the
Speaker 1: Oakland Raiders. I think that he can have a Jared
Speaker 1: Cook type season, which means that he's going to be
Speaker 1: in consideration to be a top six, top five tight
Speaker 1: end this season. So I think he's gonna be a
Speaker 1: little bit more consistent than t J. Hockinson. I really
Speaker 1: like the talent and what I saw of Hockinson. He's
Speaker 1: gonna be on the field a ton because he's a
Speaker 1: phenomenal blocker as well. But you why if you're asking
Speaker 1: me between the two, I'm taking Darren Waller over t J. Hockinson. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Buddy Frank with this is the Breast Friends Forever podcast,
Speaker 1: and Uh, I am agrees. That's how I look at
Speaker 1: it exactly. Uh. They're like he said, they're not going
Speaker 1: to play the Cardinals every week. They've been brutal against
Speaker 1: the tight end for as long as I can remember.
Speaker 1: And the reality is his Waller is going to be
Speaker 1: the second, you know, maybe the third, but he's proven
Speaker 1: that that he can handle the workload. I feel like
Speaker 1: this is like a redeption story for him, which you
Speaker 1: know you can't like. I know, I'm maybe I'm the
Speaker 1: master of the narrative. Uh and sometimes people wanted to
Speaker 1: to get rid of the narrative. But look at the end,
Speaker 1: these guys are human beings. This is a guy that
Speaker 1: people are looking at as his rookie season, but I
Speaker 1: think he's been in the for five years, um, but
Speaker 1: it has been non existent because of drugs and alcohol.
Speaker 1: He's turned his life around. He's sober, he's clean, he
Speaker 1: is dedicated to football and the Raiders, and uh, I
Speaker 1: think he's going to pay dividends this year. And he's
Speaker 1: a crazy mismatched problem too. Reminds you of Evan Ingram, right.
Speaker 1: He has a wide receiver coming out of college. He's
Speaker 1: six ft six, He ran like a four point five
Speaker 1: forty coming out and now he's been converted to tight end.
Speaker 1: So just a mismatch problem. I take Darren Waller over Hawkinson. Greg.
Speaker 1: I put the poll out before the show, and just
Speaker 1: to give you perspective, how close this is a hundred
Speaker 1: and eight votes in Marcus Marcy's Brown leads to votec
Speaker 1: Darren Waller, Terry McLaurin, John Ross ninetent In terms of
Speaker 1: which player would you prioritize most in the on the
Speaker 1: waiver wire this week, I think ultimately it comes down
Speaker 1: to what position you need. You need tight end, you
Speaker 1: go Darren Waller over those wide receivers. Greg It. We're
Speaker 1: streaming defenses here this week. The number one defense. He
Speaker 1: wrote it down. Frankly, I agree with it. It's abuf
Speaker 1: a little Bills taking on the New York Giants. Giants
Speaker 1: can't do much of anything this past week. Bills were
Speaker 1: solid against the Jets. I actually started the Bills against
Speaker 1: the Jets last week knowing st against the Giants this week,
Speaker 1: so that worked out well. Other defenses, you point out
Speaker 1: San Francisco four night. There is actually people a lot
Speaker 1: of points last week. That's uh touchdown return, uh interception
Speaker 1: returning for a touchdown to pick six. They face his Adi.
Speaker 1: Not bad, not a terrible match, not bad. Rago's versus
Speaker 1: Chicago Mitchell Drowisky in that the offensive line did not
Speaker 1: look good for the most part. Really like the Broncos
Speaker 1: this week in Chicago. They're out there in most refence
Speaker 1: game for VIC Fanjou, that's true. And you mentioned, of
Speaker 1: course Carolina here against Tampa Bay. You wanna meagine quarterbacks quickly? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'll just throw it to Josh Allen if you play
Speaker 1: in a one quarterback league and you need a streaming quarterback. Um.
Speaker 1: He goes up against the New York Giants who just
Speaker 1: got Tors for four hundred yards and four touchdowns. Josh
Speaker 1: Allen actually led all quarterbacks in Week one with ten
Speaker 1: rushing attempts only thirty eight rushing yards. It was a
Speaker 1: mixed bag performance for Josh Allen. I realized that he
Speaker 1: had four turnovers, but the completion percentage was very good
Speaker 1: as well. I'm looking for Josh Allen to get back
Speaker 1: on track in Week two against the Giants. I also
Speaker 1: liked Sam Donald against the Browns and Derek Carr going
Speaker 1: up against the Chiefs, who just made Gardner Minshew look
Speaker 1: pretty damn good. He went five yards and two touchdowns.
Speaker 1: They asked you yesterday, I gotta ask you a gett
Speaker 1: a super flex? How much for Gardner Minshew. I'm not
Speaker 1: throwing down much unless I was relying on Nick Foles
Speaker 1: as my super flex core are back. In that case,
Speaker 1: probably looking at five to seven. But if I just
Speaker 1: need to back up, I'm probably only throwing one on
Speaker 1: Gardner pretty zero dollar bin and a super flex legal
Speaker 1: Josh Dobbs no e y, that'll do it for us.
Speaker 1: He's Frank easy y. I'll be back tomorrow. These guys
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Speaker 1: what you miss on the BFTS. Let me start off
Speaker 1: with Bronco's Raiders. People are raving about the Raiders. Now, Um,
Speaker 1: is this one of those euing theory type of things.
Speaker 1: E Y was like, all right, they lost Antonio Brown.
Speaker 1: Now they're winning this not in spite of him, another
Speaker 1: winning because he's gone and they're simply better. Yeah. Well,
Speaker 1: I mean, let's not get ourselves. Skill wise, they're not better.
Speaker 1: But I do believe, uh, you know, sometimes just as
Speaker 1: fantasy analysts or expert or whatever you wanna call us,
Speaker 1: I called myself an enthusiast. Um for me, a thing
Speaker 1: like that can can bring a locker room together. And
Speaker 1: the reality is is football is a team sport. There's
Speaker 1: not one guy that's going to to make or break
Speaker 1: anyone team. He was the best player on the team.
Speaker 1: You can't tell me any anything otherwise. But obviously it
Speaker 1: was a massive distraction from day one. Um barely practiced,
Speaker 1: was barely a training camp probably probably wasn't in a
Speaker 1: whole lot of meetings. It wasn't really around. The guys
Speaker 1: aren't going to miss him because most of them didn't
Speaker 1: even know him. Um and and the Raiders look decent.
Speaker 1: Tyrone Williams looked real good, Derek Carr looked, you know,
Speaker 1: pretty efficient, better than I think that most anyone thought
Speaker 1: he was going to be without Antonio Brown. So yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it's exciting. The NFL is a better place when
Speaker 1: the Raiders are a good football team. Yeah, I want
Speaker 1: to piggyback off that as well. I don't think that
Speaker 1: they're better off without Antonio Brown, but I actually think
Speaker 1: Antonio Brown not being with the Oakland Raiders is better
Speaker 1: for everybody involved on this team from a fantasy perspective,
Speaker 1: because us the way that I'm looking at it, I
Speaker 1: think that it's really concentrated amongst three people. It's really
Speaker 1: just gonna be Tyroll Williams, Darren Waller, and Josh Jacobs.
Speaker 1: And that's a good thing because the more that we
Speaker 1: can concentrate fantasy production, the more opportunity that the easier
Speaker 1: it is to predict moving forward weekend and week out.
Speaker 1: Darren Waller played fifty five of fifty five offensive snaps.
Speaker 1: Yesterday he played of the snaps, he looked really really good.
Speaker 1: Clus seven of eight targets for seventy yards. Looks like
Speaker 1: he is going to fill that Jared Cook roll from
Speaker 1: a year ago looked explosive. Tyrol Williams same thing. He
Speaker 1: had a few deep passes down the field. Didn't know
Speaker 1: Derek Carr had it in him, but ultimately, you know
Speaker 1: Tyro Williams. I said this yesterday when we were previewing
Speaker 1: this game from a betting perspective on the fandal, hurry up, Greg. Honestly,
Speaker 1: I might have, you know, downplayed Tyroll Williams talent, and
Speaker 1: I said, I don't know that he can hang as
Speaker 1: a wide receiver one in the NFL. Well, you know what,
Speaker 1: in his first opportunity to do so, he looked pretty
Speaker 1: damn good. Seven targets, six receptions over a hundred yards
Speaker 1: and a touchdown. And Josh Jacobs man twenty three carries
Speaker 1: that was second among all running backs in Week one,
Speaker 1: behind only Marlon Mack. He had eight red zone carries Greg,
Speaker 1: that led the NFL in Week one. So look, if
Speaker 1: Josh Jacobs is getting twenty to twenty five touches weekend
Speaker 1: and week out. He's going to be a high end
Speaker 1: RB two, borderline RB one. Yeah, absolutely, Josh Jacobs, that
Speaker 1: usage continues, he's going to absolutely be a mortal line
Speaker 1: running back one of the season. I thought you said
Speaker 1: it really nicely, Frank, that Antonio Bryant's all condensed. We
Speaker 1: know what we're getting, which is nice with Tyrielle Williams,
Speaker 1: with Darren Waller, with a lot of Josh Jacobs, and
Speaker 1: that's that's it. And if you picked up Hunter Ren
Speaker 1: for I think it's safe to say you could drop him.