1 00:00:07,920 --> 00:00:10,680 Speaker 1: As a guide an hunter. I've spent thousands of days 2 00:00:10,680 --> 00:00:13,760 Speaker 1: in the field. This show is about translating my hard 3 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:17,599 Speaker 1: won experiences into tips and tactics. They'll get you closer 4 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:21,360 Speaker 1: to your ultimate goal success in the field. I'm Remy Warren. 5 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:33,639 Speaker 1: This is cutting the distance. Welcome back everybody. I hope 6 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:36,960 Speaker 1: everybody's doing well and has some hunting on the mind. 7 00:00:37,479 --> 00:00:39,760 Speaker 1: I know this time of year there's a lot of 8 00:00:39,800 --> 00:00:42,839 Speaker 1: pre planning going on, but it should be that time 9 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:45,280 Speaker 1: where maybe some draw results are coming back. Maybe you 10 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:47,600 Speaker 1: drew a good tag, or you applied for tag and 11 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 1: didn't draw, but you can maybe start planning out a 12 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:52,560 Speaker 1: little bit more, maybe looking for some over the counter 13 00:00:52,680 --> 00:00:56,320 Speaker 1: hunts or just kind of get that fall season figured 14 00:00:56,360 --> 00:00:58,959 Speaker 1: out and understand maybe what what you're doing, what you're 15 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 1: getting into, or maybe year thinking about a new hunt 16 00:01:02,360 --> 00:01:05,040 Speaker 1: and that's on the docket. So I got a lot 17 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:08,199 Speaker 1: of questions coming in about just different types of hunts, 18 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:12,440 Speaker 1: you know, for me personally, Nevada draws came out. I 19 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 1: drew a late season deer tag archery deer tag with 20 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:18,040 Speaker 1: my wife, so this will actually be her first archery 21 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:20,800 Speaker 1: tag and her first Nevada tag. She had quite a 22 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 1: few points built up and hadn't been able to draw, 23 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:27,320 Speaker 1: so she decided, hey, if I want to draw, I'm 24 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 1: gonna start applying for archery and did and we drew 25 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:32,039 Speaker 1: a tag that we're gonna be hunting together this year. 26 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:35,160 Speaker 1: So I'm really excited about that. That's for me. Really, 27 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:37,520 Speaker 1: I think that's really the only tag that I've drawn 28 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:39,560 Speaker 1: this season. So everything else is going to be kind 29 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:41,839 Speaker 1: of over the counter type hunts and planning that out. 30 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:45,560 Speaker 1: But a lot of people have reached out about nonresident 31 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 1: guys that have maybe listened to the podcast, and there's 32 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 1: quite a few people that have been listening to the 33 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 1: podcast decided to apply as a nonresident Nevada and drew 34 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 1: some good tags, which I'm like, that's awesome. Good for 35 00:01:56,320 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 1: you guys, Congratulations everybody that maybe drew something. You know, 36 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:03,680 Speaker 1: as as these plans start to formulate, a lot of 37 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 1: questions come up. So this week we're gonna go and 38 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 1: answer those questions. I'm covering literally a very wide range 39 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:14,120 Speaker 1: of topics from scouting and new hunt expectations to some 40 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:18,119 Speaker 1: moose tactics, butchering and then picking a good guide. So 41 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:21,359 Speaker 1: this week we're focusing all on your questions in our 42 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:26,120 Speaker 1: monthly Question and Answer. Before we get too deep into 43 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:30,080 Speaker 1: answering some questions, I always like to read a few testimonials, 44 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:33,239 Speaker 1: some some people that have had some success based on 45 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:35,800 Speaker 1: what they've learned here on cutting the distance. So this 46 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 1: one comes from Jeff says here, Amy just wanted to 47 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:41,400 Speaker 1: say thank you for the podcast in particularly for the 48 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 1: recent spring bear podcast. I live in northern Idaho and 49 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:46,920 Speaker 1: over the weekend got my first black bear. I paid 50 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:49,640 Speaker 1: attention to your tips on the stages of food and elevation. 51 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:52,840 Speaker 1: The elk, deer and moose are starting to have their 52 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 1: babies and that's where I got this guy. Anyways, thanks 53 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:57,080 Speaker 1: a million, and I came with a picture of a 54 00:02:57,120 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 1: great black bear. So awesome work. Jeff love to hear 55 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:02,560 Speaker 1: those kind of success stories. I got a ton of 56 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 1: them from people, especially about the spring bear stuff. A 57 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 1: lot of people that have had trouble hunting spring bears 58 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:11,640 Speaker 1: or bears in the past and found those very very useful. 59 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:14,840 Speaker 1: So here's a question that has to do with spring bears. 60 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 1: So kind of piggybacking off that it's from Trevor, and 61 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 1: Trevor says, hey, Remy, I'm a huge fan of cutting 62 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 1: the distance and had a question about calling for bears. 63 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 1: You mentioned that when you were calling, you should find 64 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:28,240 Speaker 1: a spot that is difficult for a bear to circle you. 65 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:30,760 Speaker 1: I was wondering what that spot would look like. Would 66 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:33,360 Speaker 1: it be you set up against the bottom of a 67 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 1: steep slope or something like really thick brush. That's a 68 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 1: great question. I don't know if I covered it completely, 69 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 1: so if you listen to the Spring Bear Tips podcast, 70 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 1: I didn't mention about calling. Calling bears works great in 71 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:49,280 Speaker 1: the fall as well as springtime when elk and deer 72 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 1: calving as well. But what I'm talking about, essentially for 73 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:55,880 Speaker 1: preventing bears from circling you is mostly because of the 74 00:03:55,920 --> 00:03:59,400 Speaker 1: wind um some people you know you do. I've heard 75 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 1: in the past people saying like, set up with something 76 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 1: at your back so they can't jump on you, and 77 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 1: they do. You know, animals, predators, other predators can come 78 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:09,880 Speaker 1: in quiet and kind of give you where they have 79 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 1: to walk around to the sound and your peripheral vision, 80 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 1: which is a good idea as well. But what I'm 81 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 1: mainly concerned about is just calling for that amount of 82 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:22,160 Speaker 1: time and having a bear circle me, get my wind 83 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 1: and run off and me never know it. So I 84 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:26,839 Speaker 1: try to pick a spot where I can predict where 85 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:29,880 Speaker 1: the bear might come from down wind and then have 86 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:32,359 Speaker 1: a sort of an area where it will funnel it. 87 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 1: If the bear is going to circle me, I should 88 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 1: be able to pick up movement or see it before 89 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 1: it fully gets around to the wind. So if there's 90 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 1: an area, say, it's just really depends on what the 91 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 1: area looks like most of the time. If it's like 92 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:49,279 Speaker 1: a thicker, choked out canyon, I might be in the 93 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:53,200 Speaker 1: bottom of that canyon down wind in a spot where 94 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:56,200 Speaker 1: I know that you know the bear is likely going 95 00:04:56,200 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 1: to travel, and I can see that area. Honestly, it's 96 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:01,159 Speaker 1: just really depend ends on where you are. But you 97 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 1: just want to think of, all, right, where are you 98 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:06,360 Speaker 1: expecting the bear to be, where's the wind going? Now, 99 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:09,880 Speaker 1: put yourself in a position where that bear has very 100 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 1: few options to go from where you think he's going 101 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 1: to be to getting down wind from you. And that's 102 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:17,720 Speaker 1: really the key there. And and that's all in the 103 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 1: setup because it does take a lot of energy to 104 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:22,440 Speaker 1: blow on a predator call for that long to get 105 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:24,320 Speaker 1: the bears to come in, So you want to make 106 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 1: sure that you've got to set up where it's hard 107 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:28,559 Speaker 1: for them to circle you and get your wind without 108 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:30,560 Speaker 1: you being able to see it, and a lot of 109 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:33,040 Speaker 1: times that may not even be possible. But if you're 110 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 1: expecting a bear like down in the bottom, instead of 111 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:37,800 Speaker 1: getting in the bottom, you might want to be just 112 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 1: up a little bit out of the thick stuff where 113 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 1: you can have a little bit more visibility. So just 114 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:45,279 Speaker 1: playing it a little bit like that, as opposed to 115 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 1: just setting up right in the middle of the thick 116 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 1: of everything where you think, okay, there's gonna be a 117 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 1: bear in there, trying to just call him out of 118 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:53,240 Speaker 1: something a little bit thicker where you've got a little 119 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 1: bit better vision and eyesight on it as well. The 120 00:05:57,680 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 1: next couple of questions kind of fall into this scouting 121 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:04,280 Speaker 1: and in hunt expectations. So this next question comes from 122 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:08,840 Speaker 1: Connor from Utah and says, Heyremy love the podcast. Appreciate 123 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:10,599 Speaker 1: what you do and think it's very well done. My 124 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:13,719 Speaker 1: question is how early is too early to begin scouting 125 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 1: in area? For practical reasons, he lives in Utah and 126 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 1: has been doing many hikes trying to cover as munny 127 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:22,720 Speaker 1: miles as he can. He's seen a few tracks and 128 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:25,120 Speaker 1: found what appears to be a good area, but there's 129 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:27,720 Speaker 1: still snow on the ground. He's wondering if this will 130 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:31,600 Speaker 1: change dramatically in three months when the season starts. Any thoughts, 131 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:35,080 Speaker 1: I plan to continue scouting in June, July, August. But 132 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 1: will the things I scout now in June be old 133 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:41,680 Speaker 1: information come hunting time. That's a question that I do 134 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 1: get asked a lot, and it really depends on the 135 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:47,560 Speaker 1: type of area and what you're hunting. So you have 136 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:50,839 Speaker 1: to understand what are you chasing? So is it mule deer? 137 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:53,799 Speaker 1: Is it elk? We'll just pretend it's to those two, 138 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:56,960 Speaker 1: And what kind of area are you hunting in and 139 00:06:57,000 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 1: what season will you be hunting in. There have been 140 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:03,279 Speaker 1: areas where I've scouted elk in June and gone in 141 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:05,680 Speaker 1: there in September and taking an elk that I found 142 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 1: and watched grow all summer. There are other areas that 143 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 1: you could scout in June and there will not be 144 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 1: an elk there or deer there any other time of year. 145 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 1: So you really have to understand, Okay, are the animals 146 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:20,840 Speaker 1: you're hunting a migratory herd a resident herd? If you're 147 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:23,560 Speaker 1: finding an animal in June. It's probably a resident animal. 148 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 1: And what will probably happen is there are some animals 149 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 1: that will stay where they're at, and there are many 150 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:32,800 Speaker 1: that may go up into follow the snow line. So 151 00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 1: dear Love, well, most animals they love that new growth. 152 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 1: So what you're gonna get is as the spring, as 153 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 1: snow starts to melt on a mountain, they'll pretty much 154 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:46,000 Speaker 1: be following that green up up the mountain. So springtime 155 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:48,920 Speaker 1: they're gonna be down lower that's where they wintered. And 156 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 1: this is like, you know, some animals do this on 157 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:53,560 Speaker 1: very large scales over migrations, and some do it in 158 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 1: smaller scales. But most of the time most areas, this 159 00:07:58,040 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 1: is just rings true for that area, unless you're hunting 160 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 1: in a really high alpine area that cannot winter animals 161 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:08,000 Speaker 1: um in which case you know they'll just travel further distances. 162 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 1: But you know they moved down in the winter and 163 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:13,480 Speaker 1: they go into what would be their winter range. That 164 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 1: winter range is gonna be probably low line, lower elevation, 165 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 1: a lot of open area where the sun can burn 166 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 1: off snow, and they're gonna be able to feed throughout 167 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:23,600 Speaker 1: the winter and be protected as well as maybe have 168 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:26,679 Speaker 1: some good stands of timber for cover and other things. 169 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:28,360 Speaker 1: But they'll kind of have everything they need in that 170 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 1: winter area. Then as that snow starts to melt, you know, 171 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:35,839 Speaker 1: snow in the higher elevation stays longer, so as spring 172 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:38,839 Speaker 1: starts to come on, you've got snow line starts moving 173 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:42,080 Speaker 1: up the mountain. And with that snow line starts that 174 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 1: green up. And what green up is it's just the 175 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:47,720 Speaker 1: first growth, while those spring shoots actually are the most 176 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:51,640 Speaker 1: nutritious out of everything. So you've got like old grass. 177 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:54,000 Speaker 1: You know, you see an area with tall grass and whatever, 178 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:56,440 Speaker 1: that tall grass doesn't have as much nutrients as that 179 00:08:56,600 --> 00:09:00,080 Speaker 1: fresh first growth of grass or whatever the brow this 180 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 1: happens to be. So they're gonna move up the mountain 181 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 1: following that really good high protein, high energy. They're growing 182 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:08,320 Speaker 1: their antlers and that takes a lot of energy, so 183 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:11,839 Speaker 1: they're just more efficient eating everything that's just starting to grow. 184 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:13,960 Speaker 1: So they're gonna follow that snow line up and then 185 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:16,679 Speaker 1: they'll probably be up in the alpine in the summertime 186 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:19,800 Speaker 1: and they'll stay and hang out and summer there. Now, 187 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 1: you know, there are animals that have resident animals that 188 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 1: will stay in certain areas, so it is dependent. But 189 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:28,600 Speaker 1: then as the season progresses, you kind of get that 190 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 1: reverse action where they then start moving back down for 191 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:36,680 Speaker 1: other things. Might be for running, it might be for 192 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:40,839 Speaker 1: winter time. So you really just have to understand, okay, 193 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:43,120 Speaker 1: the type of area you're at, what's the snow and 194 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:46,480 Speaker 1: the animals doing then, and then if you've got the 195 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 1: time to kind of follow it through a couple of 196 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:52,240 Speaker 1: months through the summer figuring out, okay, well when's your 197 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:55,200 Speaker 1: season and will they be in that same area. One 198 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:59,199 Speaker 1: thing that I have found is scouting in the springtime 199 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:02,679 Speaker 1: is actually not a bad time to figure out where 200 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 1: animals might be in that October season. And it's just 201 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:10,400 Speaker 1: it depends on the area. Again, but I have found 202 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:13,199 Speaker 1: that in that after winter range, kind of when they're 203 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:15,120 Speaker 1: in that spring range but not all the way up 204 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:18,199 Speaker 1: on their summer range, it's kind of this mid area, 205 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:20,840 Speaker 1: and you will tend to find animals again in that 206 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:24,560 Speaker 1: similar area come October. So it's not bad to scout 207 00:10:24,640 --> 00:10:27,000 Speaker 1: that and kind of understand where they like in those 208 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:30,320 Speaker 1: particular places because many of those animals will return. I've 209 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:33,199 Speaker 1: done that, just like scouting, watching and then kind of 210 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:36,360 Speaker 1: hunting that same area later, but it really kind of 211 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 1: depends on your area. But just think of the way 212 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 1: the animals move follow the snow and that will really 213 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:44,000 Speaker 1: help you out as far as understanding where they'll be 214 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:49,199 Speaker 1: later on. This next question comes from Brent. He says, remmy, 215 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:51,959 Speaker 1: thank you for the awesome content with Solo Hunter as 216 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:55,120 Speaker 1: well as through the mediatre outlets. I'm the lucky recipient 217 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:58,559 Speaker 1: of a late season alternate tag in Nevada. I'm not 218 00:10:58,600 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 1: going to give the actual unit here, but he says, 219 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:02,920 Speaker 1: although I have many years of white tail experience in 220 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 1: the Southeast, this will be my first true experience hunting 221 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:08,880 Speaker 1: in the West. Other than the obvious necessities being in 222 00:11:08,920 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 1: great shape, proper gear, EA, scouting, etcetera, do you have 223 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 1: any advice for the first time we're heading into this 224 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:16,959 Speaker 1: type of hunt. Fortunately, I compete in several endurance and 225 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:19,600 Speaker 1: triathlon type events, so I think I can endure the 226 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:23,679 Speaker 1: physical elements for the most part. I am honestly intimidated 227 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:26,880 Speaker 1: by the big country and what to expect. Your podcasts 228 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 1: on pack dumps and gear have been extremely helpful as well. 229 00:11:29,360 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 1: Thank you in advance for your time. I think that 230 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:34,800 Speaker 1: that's a great question and it is something that I 231 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:37,040 Speaker 1: feel like I do talk about a lot, but I 232 00:11:37,080 --> 00:11:40,920 Speaker 1: honestly think it gets kind of understated or undersold, And 233 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:44,120 Speaker 1: that's just the mental preparation of having the right kind 234 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:47,880 Speaker 1: of expectations on something like this. And I've I've mentioned 235 00:11:47,880 --> 00:11:50,000 Speaker 1: this before, but a lot of time the guys that 236 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:51,840 Speaker 1: are in the best shape seem to be the ones 237 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:56,040 Speaker 1: that do the worst in some ways because they mentally aren't. 238 00:11:56,679 --> 00:11:58,680 Speaker 1: They just like don't really know what to expect, and 239 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 1: then they get into it and it is difficult. So 240 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 1: what you want to do is just set your mindset 241 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:05,319 Speaker 1: of knowing that this type of experience is going to 242 00:12:05,400 --> 00:12:07,840 Speaker 1: be difficult, but that's the whole point of the experience. 243 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:12,400 Speaker 1: Creating that positive mental attitude before you get in there, 244 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:14,600 Speaker 1: and don't be scared of what you're going to expect. 245 00:12:14,640 --> 00:12:17,920 Speaker 1: Just enjoy the experience. You might have trouble finding dear, 246 00:12:18,080 --> 00:12:20,840 Speaker 1: you might think you're doing things wrong. You might get 247 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:23,920 Speaker 1: out there and it just be hotter than heck, hard 248 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:26,440 Speaker 1: to breathe, very difficult. You might get out there and 249 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:29,480 Speaker 1: it might be way easier than you're expecting. It doesn't 250 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:32,360 Speaker 1: really matter. Just have that positive attitude of every day 251 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:34,960 Speaker 1: you get up you're gonna enjoy it, whether it's sucking 252 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:38,400 Speaker 1: or not. Enjoy it, and you embrace the suck, enjoy 253 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:42,400 Speaker 1: the suck, and you're gonna be fine. Honestly, there's I mean, 254 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:44,880 Speaker 1: I've seen so many hunters that go up a trail 255 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:47,520 Speaker 1: or a hiking trail. They've got their gear and they're like, okay, 256 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:51,679 Speaker 1: this is they're they're mentally beat. And yet in the summertime, 257 00:12:51,720 --> 00:12:54,840 Speaker 1: that same trail is taken by very out of shape 258 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:59,600 Speaker 1: or non outdoorsy people doing just the normal hike in 259 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:04,079 Speaker 1: um flip flops and with a JanSport backpack, and they 260 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:07,280 Speaker 1: survive and they're fine. And I don't know, I mean, 261 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:10,199 Speaker 1: it's just like it's one of those things that happens 262 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:13,280 Speaker 1: some of the I've literally seen people in the summertime 263 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:16,840 Speaker 1: on trails that I go hunting on later, and they're 264 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:19,920 Speaker 1: just out there having a good time, enjoying what it's 265 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:23,360 Speaker 1: out there, taking their time and enjoying it. And there's 266 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 1: many hunters that get out on that same trail that 267 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:31,480 Speaker 1: by all means should be successful in at least not 268 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:35,520 Speaker 1: feeling too over their head, and yet I feel like 269 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:38,400 Speaker 1: they're just way too far out of their element. So 270 00:13:38,520 --> 00:13:40,880 Speaker 1: I say that to say, it's all about your mindset, 271 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:43,760 Speaker 1: It's all about your attitude. Expect things to be tough, 272 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:47,600 Speaker 1: but that you will be completely fine. Don't freak out, 273 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:50,600 Speaker 1: don't over analyze how hard it's gonna be. Just know 274 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:53,680 Speaker 1: that going into it it might be challenging, and whatever 275 00:13:53,720 --> 00:13:56,440 Speaker 1: gets thrown your way, you're going to deal with. And 276 00:13:56,480 --> 00:13:58,640 Speaker 1: that's really it. And then listen to as many of 277 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:00,960 Speaker 1: these podcasts as you can, and I guarantee you'll be 278 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:06,160 Speaker 1: more prepared than the people out there. All Right, I've 279 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:09,439 Speaker 1: got I don't even know over a dozen questions about 280 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:12,400 Speaker 1: moose hunting, and I honestly think that that's because a 281 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:16,679 Speaker 1: lot of draws came out. Idaho draws came out from Moose, Montana, 282 00:14:16,800 --> 00:14:21,040 Speaker 1: moose draws came out, so I think Colorado did as well. Now, 283 00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:23,960 Speaker 1: probably one of the reasons I haven't done a moose 284 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:26,680 Speaker 1: hunting podcast is because the only time you're hunting moose 285 00:14:26,760 --> 00:14:29,120 Speaker 1: is whether I mean, if you live in Alaska. There's 286 00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:31,920 Speaker 1: actually quite a few guys from Canada that listen. And 287 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:34,480 Speaker 1: then in the lower forty eight you have to draw 288 00:14:34,520 --> 00:14:36,760 Speaker 1: a tag and it's very difficult to draw. I have 289 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:40,720 Speaker 1: never drawn a shiris moose tag. However, I've been fortunate 290 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:43,520 Speaker 1: to be on many hunts because I get to guide 291 00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 1: those hunts, So there's a lot of there's a lot 292 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:49,040 Speaker 1: of that when this certain species that take a long 293 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:51,360 Speaker 1: time to draw, could be very hard to draw. Most 294 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:53,480 Speaker 1: of the people that have the most experienced hunting I'm 295 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 1: have actually never pulled the trigger on one or how 296 00:14:56,040 --> 00:14:59,320 Speaker 1: to tag in their pocket themselves. So I think it 297 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:01,680 Speaker 1: would be good, and that's probably another reason why a 298 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:04,560 Speaker 1: lot of people want information on it, because I think 299 00:15:04,600 --> 00:15:07,440 Speaker 1: that most people who draw a special tag like that, 300 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:10,600 Speaker 1: whether it be moose, mountain goat, or sheep um what 301 00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:12,920 Speaker 1: I would consider the big three, most of the people 302 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:15,200 Speaker 1: that draw those tags that might be the first and 303 00:15:15,320 --> 00:15:18,040 Speaker 1: only hunt that they'll go on for those species, so 304 00:15:18,080 --> 00:15:21,160 Speaker 1: they don't have a lot of knowledge or whatever, and 305 00:15:21,160 --> 00:15:23,480 Speaker 1: there are a lot of nuances with each one of 306 00:15:23,520 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 1: those that is different than other things that you hunt. 307 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:28,240 Speaker 1: So I think it'd be great to just answer a 308 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:31,120 Speaker 1: few of the questions here, and there's quite a few 309 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:33,800 Speaker 1: of them, so I'm gonna just go through and kind 310 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:36,880 Speaker 1: of all of them target a little bit something different. 311 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:40,040 Speaker 1: So this first question comes from Ethan he says he 312 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:44,280 Speaker 1: started listening to the podcast and he's up to episode. 313 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:46,880 Speaker 1: He figured you'd reach out and see if I had 314 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:49,760 Speaker 1: any tips for moose hunting. He drew two weeks ago. 315 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:52,520 Speaker 1: He's very fortunate to draw a Bullshiris moose tag for 316 00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:56,800 Speaker 1: southwestern Montana. His wife and not him are headed down 317 00:15:57,040 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 1: to start some early scouting for the season. He says, 318 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:03,040 Speaker 1: I don't exactly know what to ask, but do you 319 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:05,800 Speaker 1: have any tips for moose hunting? By no means need 320 00:16:05,800 --> 00:16:07,480 Speaker 1: to shoot a huge bowl, but I would like to 321 00:16:07,520 --> 00:16:10,040 Speaker 1: find a nice bowl for my once in a lifetime tag. 322 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:14,120 Speaker 1: Any information would be appreciated. Thanks in advance, Ethan. That 323 00:16:14,280 --> 00:16:17,440 Speaker 1: is probably how most people who draw a moose tag feel. 324 00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:20,560 Speaker 1: I don't know what to ask because I've never done 325 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:23,640 Speaker 1: this before, and that is actually a great question. What 326 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:27,040 Speaker 1: should you be asking, at least for the Montana moose hunt. 327 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:30,040 Speaker 1: I think that one thing that can really go in 328 00:16:30,080 --> 00:16:32,640 Speaker 1: your advantage for hunting moose is hunting during the rut. 329 00:16:33,320 --> 00:16:35,880 Speaker 1: Bulls can be called in. The bulls are moving that 330 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:38,760 Speaker 1: time of year, and it's gonna be your best chance 331 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:41,000 Speaker 1: at success if you can hunt during the rut. For 332 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:44,160 Speaker 1: in most areas, now when you're thinking about, well, what 333 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:47,240 Speaker 1: do I look for for moose. It's the same thing 334 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:50,240 Speaker 1: as you look for for any species, identifying good habitat 335 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:54,560 Speaker 1: and then concentrating in those habitats. Moose are different than 336 00:16:54,640 --> 00:16:58,880 Speaker 1: other deer species. There browsers a lot like say mule, 337 00:16:58,920 --> 00:17:02,160 Speaker 1: dear white tail or as elk or more grazers, so 338 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 1: they're gonna be eating more wooded plants. A lot of 339 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:09,520 Speaker 1: moose really survive off of willows, especially later in the season, 340 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:13,480 Speaker 1: and they do like that more swampy, wet area, But 341 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:16,920 Speaker 1: that does not mean that moose are only around those 342 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:22,159 Speaker 1: marshy areas. I found identifying their prime habitat though, would 343 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:25,040 Speaker 1: be that that more marshy area, especially if you're scouting, 344 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:28,680 Speaker 1: the cows and calves will be in more river bottom 345 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:33,480 Speaker 1: or even high up like high alpine marshy areas, wet 346 00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:37,000 Speaker 1: areas areas with a lot of runoff. So when I'm 347 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 1: e scouting, I'm looking for those areas anywhere that funnels 348 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:42,680 Speaker 1: water into something that might flatten out a little bit, 349 00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:47,080 Speaker 1: creek bottoms, drainages, and the higher up the better early season, 350 00:17:47,119 --> 00:17:50,320 Speaker 1: so if you're scouting, follow that snow line up. Moose 351 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 1: love those early shoots up high in the willows, stuff 352 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:55,880 Speaker 1: that you can find in really wet sep areas. They're 353 00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:58,520 Speaker 1: going to be moving up in those areas. Start looking 354 00:17:58,520 --> 00:18:02,080 Speaker 1: for concentrations of cows because that's probably where the bulls 355 00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:05,040 Speaker 1: are going to be focusing on later. Then think about 356 00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:08,000 Speaker 1: I really want to learn how to call moose. I 357 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:11,959 Speaker 1: use a combination of cow sounds and bull sounds, and 358 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:14,679 Speaker 1: something that works really well is raking handlers like I 359 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:18,160 Speaker 1: actually carry when I'm guiding shiris moose ons in Montana. 360 00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:21,760 Speaker 1: I carry a cut off paddle or in my pack, 361 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:25,360 Speaker 1: and I'll use that to scrape and rack willows. When 362 00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:28,480 Speaker 1: you're calling moose, it does take a long time for 363 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:30,640 Speaker 1: them to come in, and they're fairly quiet. I kind 364 00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:33,400 Speaker 1: of consider moose hunting very similar to the bear tactics. 365 00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:37,119 Speaker 1: So find where their good habitat is and then hunt that. 366 00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:39,760 Speaker 1: If you're calling, you're gonna have to call for a while. 367 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:42,919 Speaker 1: You kind of cut your hands over your nose and 368 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:49,679 Speaker 1: make a m and you're gonna do that into a 369 00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:52,600 Speaker 1: bugle tube or like a moose call um, and then 370 00:18:52,600 --> 00:19:00,200 Speaker 1: the cows make more of a wine like a doing 371 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:03,880 Speaker 1: a combination that with some raking. You'll pull moose out 372 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:06,960 Speaker 1: of really thick cover that you probably will never see 373 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:09,720 Speaker 1: them just by trying to glass, unless you happen to 374 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:12,679 Speaker 1: have an area that is open. If your area is 375 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:15,760 Speaker 1: less timbered. You know, there's so many different types of 376 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:19,879 Speaker 1: moose terrain less timbered stuff. They're a great animal to 377 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 1: glass for because you can get up on a knob 378 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:23,920 Speaker 1: and see them from a long ways away. They stand out. 379 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:27,840 Speaker 1: It's a very large, black colored animals standing out, you know, 380 00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:30,639 Speaker 1: in the open in the willows. Don't be afraid to 381 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:33,520 Speaker 1: look in some of those more open areas. Those are 382 00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:38,439 Speaker 1: the things that you're gonna want to concentrate on alright. 383 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:42,240 Speaker 1: The next moose question comes from Swede and he says, Hey, Remy, 384 00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:44,800 Speaker 1: I'm a huge fan of the podcast and your tips 385 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:47,640 Speaker 1: on using onyx maps and how to read maps help 386 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:51,160 Speaker 1: me be successful with deer North Idaho this fall, especially 387 00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:54,639 Speaker 1: how to read Tobo maps. Thank you for those tips 388 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:57,240 Speaker 1: and the podcast. I was hoping you could do a 389 00:19:57,280 --> 00:20:00,240 Speaker 1: podcast on moose. I applied and was successful on Nate 390 00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:03,840 Speaker 1: November one, fourteen, bull moose in North Idaho. I was 391 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:05,960 Speaker 1: hoping for some tips. I went and looked for sign 392 00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:08,440 Speaker 1: and was successful, and local knowledge in the area said 393 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:10,159 Speaker 1: they see moose regularly, So if you could do a 394 00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:13,520 Speaker 1: podcast on moose hunting tips, that would be great. So 395 00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:16,120 Speaker 1: I singled this one out of some of the other 396 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:19,680 Speaker 1: moose questions because of the date, November one to the 397 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:23,160 Speaker 1: last question. I said, the best time to hunt moose 398 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:24,960 Speaker 1: is going to be during the rut, and that is 399 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:27,720 Speaker 1: not during November one to the fourteen. That is more 400 00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:31,199 Speaker 1: end of September, beginning of October in most areas, or 401 00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:34,760 Speaker 1: the first couple of weeks in October probably for North 402 00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:39,760 Speaker 1: Idaho Montana. So when you're getting into November, you've you've 403 00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:42,800 Speaker 1: kind of got to change your philosophy. Especially if you're 404 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:46,040 Speaker 1: gonna start scouting now, you're gonna be looking for old 405 00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:50,080 Speaker 1: moose sign because that's probably where they're at later in 406 00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:53,440 Speaker 1: the year. One thing that you'll you'll like as far 407 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:55,480 Speaker 1: as that that North Idaho habitat is going to be 408 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:58,000 Speaker 1: a lot thicker. So moose, like a lot of things, 409 00:20:58,040 --> 00:21:01,120 Speaker 1: they do love thick cover. They love those wet areas. 410 00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:04,840 Speaker 1: But later in the year, you would think, like everything 411 00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:08,000 Speaker 1: else we talked about animals moving up and down with 412 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:11,160 Speaker 1: the snow, moose or one of the animals that actually 413 00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:15,200 Speaker 1: often go higher on the mountain as the snows get deeper. 414 00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:18,160 Speaker 1: While the elker moving down, the moose are moving up. 415 00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:22,320 Speaker 1: The reason is because they're taller and their food sources different. 416 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:27,440 Speaker 1: Moose can survive on willows throughout the winter, and they're 417 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:30,080 Speaker 1: tall enough to get through the snow and eat stuff 418 00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:32,520 Speaker 1: that other animals can eat. So whereas elk have to 419 00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:35,280 Speaker 1: move with down with the grass, the moose can move 420 00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:38,080 Speaker 1: up and survive off the willow and other brows. That's 421 00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:40,399 Speaker 1: a little bit out of reach for some animals like 422 00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:42,520 Speaker 1: deer that would just get stuck in the snow and 423 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:46,840 Speaker 1: can't survive. So as that November weather starts hitting, you 424 00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:50,399 Speaker 1: may end up finding moose in those higher elevations. A 425 00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:53,040 Speaker 1: good place the scout would be scouting up in some 426 00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:56,840 Speaker 1: of that higher elevation more winter range, or like after rut, 427 00:21:56,920 --> 00:21:59,639 Speaker 1: because what happens is the moose may move down to rut, 428 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:02,440 Speaker 1: but once the ruts over, they may end up kind 429 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:05,359 Speaker 1: of dispersing and recuperating in an area that has a 430 00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:07,920 Speaker 1: lot of food and it is just away from any 431 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:10,320 Speaker 1: kind of pressure, and that might be a little bit 432 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:12,960 Speaker 1: higher than they are during the rut and in some 433 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:16,960 Speaker 1: really thick stuff. So seeking out the good habitat as 434 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:18,960 Speaker 1: well as thinking of it in terms of hey, they 435 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:21,160 Speaker 1: might be a little bit higher if we get weather 436 00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:25,120 Speaker 1: than some of the other animals. Now I do see 437 00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:27,760 Speaker 1: them pretty high late November, but that beginning part of 438 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:30,200 Speaker 1: November could be a difficult time to find them. So 439 00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:32,400 Speaker 1: if you're scouting, you're gonna be looking for that old 440 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:36,920 Speaker 1: moose sign mostly on logging roads. Moose are big animals. 441 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:39,359 Speaker 1: It's a lot to get through a lot of that brush, 442 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:43,560 Speaker 1: and they do travel and bed on old unused logging 443 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:46,280 Speaker 1: roads that you can walk on. Cruising those looking for 444 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:49,280 Speaker 1: old sign and then fresh signed during the season is 445 00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:52,160 Speaker 1: a great way to be successful finding moose in that 446 00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:54,639 Speaker 1: time of year. And you never know, I mean, there 447 00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:56,720 Speaker 1: might be still a little red action going on. You 448 00:22:56,760 --> 00:22:59,000 Speaker 1: could try calling, but for the most part, I would 449 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:03,720 Speaker 1: just say focus on that, all right. The last moose 450 00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:08,600 Speaker 1: question of this series so far from Charlie says he's 451 00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:10,560 Speaker 1: new to moose hunting and Lord Willing will have a 452 00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:14,680 Speaker 1: time slot in September in Alaska. He can scout the area, 453 00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:18,320 Speaker 1: but doesn't know besides swamps and willows. Before the season 454 00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:20,560 Speaker 1: what to look for. I guess I already covered that 455 00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:24,399 Speaker 1: Alaska Yukon moose are different than Shiris moose, but they 456 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:26,520 Speaker 1: do have a lot of the same habits. Now, this 457 00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:28,600 Speaker 1: is the word I really wanted to focus on. He says. Also, 458 00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:32,000 Speaker 1: I've killed elk and deer, but our moose a lot larger. 459 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:34,240 Speaker 1: How do you keep your wits and not stress about 460 00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:37,320 Speaker 1: time slash distance You've got to go when butchering an 461 00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:42,320 Speaker 1: animal that large in the mountains. So that's a great question. Yes, 462 00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:44,920 Speaker 1: when you walk up on a moose, a moose is 463 00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:49,879 Speaker 1: very especially Alaska Yukon moose, they are an absolute different 464 00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:53,320 Speaker 1: animal as far as size wise. Anybody that might be 465 00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:56,160 Speaker 1: going on their first moose hunt, take somebody else with you. 466 00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:59,080 Speaker 1: It's not a task that is fun by yourself. I 467 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:02,960 Speaker 1: have while guiding taking care of many a moose alone 468 00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:07,240 Speaker 1: and it sucks. It's just it's just all that it 469 00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:10,920 Speaker 1: really does. Um. There's a lot of animals, even a 470 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:13,879 Speaker 1: fog neck elk like just some animals that are the 471 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:17,840 Speaker 1: size of moose, but moose are They're the largest deer 472 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:21,199 Speaker 1: in the world and they can be a chore to 473 00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:23,680 Speaker 1: deal with. But no matter the size of the animal, 474 00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:29,400 Speaker 1: whether it is a small Couis deer in Mexico or 475 00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:33,440 Speaker 1: a Alaska Yukon moose in the North, you just gotta 476 00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:37,040 Speaker 1: take it one piece at a time, literally, So start 477 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:40,600 Speaker 1: with what you have to do, break it down, dump, dump, heat, 478 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:43,199 Speaker 1: and then just one process at the time. Don't get 479 00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:45,080 Speaker 1: ahead of yourself of wow, this is a lot of work. 480 00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:46,840 Speaker 1: What am I gonna do? It's just one step at 481 00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:49,439 Speaker 1: a time. Anything that's big and heavy. If it's your 482 00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:52,160 Speaker 1: first time hunting elk and you're gonna which you're an elk, 483 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:55,639 Speaker 1: that's a huge task as well. I know, the thought 484 00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:59,600 Speaker 1: of dealing with an animal that large in a situation 485 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:02,000 Speaker 1: that you might not be used to can be a pain. 486 00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:04,720 Speaker 1: So have some extra gear that makes it easier for you. 487 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:07,920 Speaker 1: Have some cordage like I talked about in the gear episode. 488 00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:11,560 Speaker 1: Have something set up ahead of time where you're gonna 489 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:14,680 Speaker 1: hang the meat. Um, if you've got another guy keeping 490 00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:17,160 Speaker 1: watch for bears and maybe building that while you start 491 00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:20,439 Speaker 1: cutting and skinning, and then you know, use two people 492 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:24,639 Speaker 1: to move and lift and not injure yourself in that aspect. 493 00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:27,520 Speaker 1: And then when it comes to the pack out, it's 494 00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:30,600 Speaker 1: literally just have your meat hanging and take what you 495 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:34,600 Speaker 1: can and start packing, and it's just it's just one 496 00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:37,679 Speaker 1: of those head down, grit your teeth and go and 497 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:40,320 Speaker 1: it's all part of the experience. But yes, when you 498 00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:43,159 Speaker 1: walk up on them, it looks like a very large task, 499 00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:46,159 Speaker 1: but when it comes down to it, it's just a 500 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:48,639 Speaker 1: larger version of what you've already done. It's going to 501 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:51,440 Speaker 1: be heavier packs, but just one piece at a time. 502 00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:54,040 Speaker 1: Instead of packing out maybe the whole gear in one trip, 503 00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:56,040 Speaker 1: you might just be getting one moose quarter and you're 504 00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:59,000 Speaker 1: gonna have to know, Okay, I gotta get this out, 505 00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:00,800 Speaker 1: and it might be how over many trips, so there's 506 00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:03,560 Speaker 1: two guys, maybe it's two trips or four trips or whatever. 507 00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:08,000 Speaker 1: But keep that in mind too when you're hunting picking 508 00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:10,879 Speaker 1: areas and spots. I think for moose that you know 509 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:13,920 Speaker 1: you're gonna be able to handle it because the most 510 00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:16,600 Speaker 1: important thing is getting all of that meat out and 511 00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:18,360 Speaker 1: you need to make sure that you don't bite off 512 00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:21,439 Speaker 1: more than you can choose. So hunting in areas where hey, 513 00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:25,160 Speaker 1: maybe you've got boat access, river access, or you know 514 00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:28,399 Speaker 1: that you've got enough people to handle the job ahead 515 00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:31,560 Speaker 1: of time, that's great. You know, I think of other 516 00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:34,840 Speaker 1: large animal like bison. I've packed out bison that we're 517 00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:38,840 Speaker 1: definitely not drivable to on various trips. And you know, 518 00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:41,720 Speaker 1: it's just like anything. You just start, you quarter it out, 519 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:44,440 Speaker 1: you do the exact same process, and just that process 520 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:48,199 Speaker 1: might take longer, but remember meatcare is number one, and 521 00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:50,400 Speaker 1: just make sure that you have all the tools necessary 522 00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:53,719 Speaker 1: for that task at hand with you don't skimp on 523 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:55,800 Speaker 1: you know you're gonna need a knife sharpener and maybe 524 00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:59,880 Speaker 1: an extra saw to cut, some poles to hang it on, 525 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:02,359 Speaker 1: and some extra cordage. It's just some extra heavy duty 526 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:07,440 Speaker 1: stuff for a heavy duty job that actually segways really 527 00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:11,840 Speaker 1: well into these questions on butchering, so Mark asked. He says, Hey, 528 00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:14,240 Speaker 1: remmy question for your next week's Q and A. Could 529 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:17,040 Speaker 1: you break down home butchering and meatcare from quarters to 530 00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:22,640 Speaker 1: serving size and cuts, grinders, sausages, vac seal versus other methods. 531 00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:26,200 Speaker 1: He says a side note, can't remember when or where 532 00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:29,399 Speaker 1: heard you mentioned Mark forn strike and Areno drove up 533 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:31,600 Speaker 1: the other day and best out door stop ever been too, 534 00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:34,560 Speaker 1: So thanks for that. That's a lot to chew in 535 00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:38,520 Speaker 1: that question. Pun intended, but yeah, I'll break down kind 536 00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:41,280 Speaker 1: of what. Let's just say, this would be my list 537 00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:45,119 Speaker 1: of how I the cuts that I kind of really 538 00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:48,000 Speaker 1: enjoy and get off of an animal. I'm just gonna 539 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:49,919 Speaker 1: break it down. This is something that almost needs to 540 00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:52,080 Speaker 1: be shown, but I can definitely explain it in a 541 00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:55,800 Speaker 1: way and answer some of these questions. So the first thing, 542 00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:58,280 Speaker 1: let's go with a backstrap. I cut the backstrap off 543 00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:00,240 Speaker 1: and I like to keep my backstrap and what I 544 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:02,960 Speaker 1: would consider a roast, so I cut the backstrap into 545 00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:06,960 Speaker 1: say four inch to six inch long pieces. The way 546 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:10,159 Speaker 1: I butcher really has to do with the way that 547 00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:13,560 Speaker 1: I like to cook. So I like cooking it whole 548 00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:16,560 Speaker 1: and then slicing it afterwards, and I do that with 549 00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:19,520 Speaker 1: the majority of my cuts, so I don't steak out 550 00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:21,720 Speaker 1: a lot of cuts. I like to cut a hole 551 00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:23,679 Speaker 1: and then cut my steaks after I cook it, or 552 00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:25,679 Speaker 1: if I want something where I've got a steak, I 553 00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:29,480 Speaker 1: can cut it during the prep process. That also, because 554 00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:31,920 Speaker 1: I do butcher a lot of stuff, it really cuts 555 00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:34,600 Speaker 1: down all my butcher time, leaving more whole pieces. So 556 00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:38,720 Speaker 1: when I do all the loose meat, like most of 557 00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:41,040 Speaker 1: the ribs, unless I do a lot of bone in 558 00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:45,760 Speaker 1: loins with like Tomahawks style cuts. But all my other cuts, 559 00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:48,440 Speaker 1: you know, I'll do like the ribs, the neck meat, 560 00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:51,120 Speaker 1: some other stuff that I want. If I want the burger, 561 00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:53,880 Speaker 1: I'll do that in the grind and anything extra as 562 00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:56,040 Speaker 1: I'm butchering and trimming, that will all be grind for 563 00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:59,320 Speaker 1: my burger. I do like on smaller animals like deer, 564 00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:02,240 Speaker 1: like a bone in shoulder, So I just leave the 565 00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:05,480 Speaker 1: shoulder blade actually in that for slow cooking, and then 566 00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:09,560 Speaker 1: I'll leave bone in shanks front and back because I root. 567 00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:11,400 Speaker 1: That's one of my favorite cuts to cook. And it 568 00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:15,280 Speaker 1: sounds crazy, but man, slow cook there's something there's just 569 00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:17,880 Speaker 1: so good cooking and shank like that. And then the 570 00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:21,160 Speaker 1: shoulder I think really does well slow cooking because that 571 00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:24,360 Speaker 1: holds in the moisture. It's easy to do, and then 572 00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:26,280 Speaker 1: you don't have to deal with cutting up the shoulder 573 00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:28,840 Speaker 1: and everything and turning that into grind, or you can 574 00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:30,960 Speaker 1: if you want. Then we moved to the back quarter. 575 00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:34,800 Speaker 1: I mean essentially, the easiest way to explain it would 576 00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:37,320 Speaker 1: be take the hind quarter, I flip it with the 577 00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:40,959 Speaker 1: bone the hip, sock it up and then you just 578 00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:43,720 Speaker 1: kind of like follow all the guides in there where 579 00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:47,320 Speaker 1: the meat the muscles separate. You separate those out. Um, 580 00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:50,360 Speaker 1: you're gonna get some like muscles that I I like 581 00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:52,880 Speaker 1: to call it a turtle roast where all the hind 582 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:55,880 Speaker 1: leg muscles come together. That I leave is a roast 583 00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:57,960 Speaker 1: that I can slow cook or I put that in grind. 584 00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:01,400 Speaker 1: Everything else is separate out into big, nice muscle groups. 585 00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:05,000 Speaker 1: And I actually kind of cut mine where I've got 586 00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:08,080 Speaker 1: this cut. I call it the fake loin, and it's 587 00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:11,680 Speaker 1: just I take the leg muscles and I cut them 588 00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:14,240 Speaker 1: where it looks like whole backstrap roast. You really cannot 589 00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:17,320 Speaker 1: tell the difference between most of like if it's a 590 00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:20,040 Speaker 1: backstrap or if it's from the hind quarter. And I 591 00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:23,320 Speaker 1: do that because I could stake that out later, or 592 00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:25,600 Speaker 1: I can just cook it like that and slice it 593 00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:27,959 Speaker 1: and whatever. It's just so many different options. It's so 594 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:31,600 Speaker 1: fast to do. And that's really how I do a 595 00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:33,920 Speaker 1: lot of my butchering. Now I would say that my 596 00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:37,640 Speaker 1: specialty cuts. I'd like to do cube steaks with some 597 00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:40,440 Speaker 1: of the hind quarter, like some of the sirloin cube 598 00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:43,640 Speaker 1: that or even some of the shoulder steaks on bigger 599 00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:46,480 Speaker 1: animals like elk, I'll cube that and the cubing is 600 00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:49,880 Speaker 1: just essentially like pounded out flat where you can make 601 00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:53,680 Speaker 1: schnitzel or elk palm or whatever something like that. Now, 602 00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:58,160 Speaker 1: as far as grinder's sausage, vac seal, other methods I 603 00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:01,520 Speaker 1: use made with me eat stuff, I actually just started 604 00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:03,720 Speaker 1: working with them, so you can see a lot of 605 00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:05,280 Speaker 1: that on my Instagram. Some of the stuff that I 606 00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:08,800 Speaker 1: do with that. When I grind stuff, I just I 607 00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:11,800 Speaker 1: do actually add fat to a lot of my game 608 00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:14,320 Speaker 1: meat only because it's so lean and it helps hold 609 00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:17,640 Speaker 1: it together better for burger and stuff. If I'm adding fat, 610 00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:20,040 Speaker 1: I'll normally add pork fat to my sausage. I do 611 00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:23,720 Speaker 1: about pork fat and then you know, mixed in with 612 00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:26,920 Speaker 1: the game meat. The key to grinding you just gotta 613 00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:30,040 Speaker 1: keep it cold, especially with sausage making, so I'll actually 614 00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:32,160 Speaker 1: put ice in when I grind it help keep it cold, 615 00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:34,320 Speaker 1: add some moisture back for when I smoke it, and 616 00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:36,960 Speaker 1: other things. But there's just too much to talk about 617 00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:40,440 Speaker 1: here in one Q and A. But I do cover 618 00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:43,200 Speaker 1: a lot of this cooking stuff on my social media. 619 00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:46,640 Speaker 1: So and then a vaccine versus other methods do vaccine 620 00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:49,400 Speaker 1: is the best. I mean, I it's it looks nice, 621 00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:52,080 Speaker 1: it looks pretty. It takes a little bit more time 622 00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:55,360 Speaker 1: outside of accial. The only other method that I suggest 623 00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:59,120 Speaker 1: would be double wrapping, which lasts as long as vacciel, 624 00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:01,280 Speaker 1: But I think the seals just a little bit better 625 00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:02,840 Speaker 1: because you can throw it in the cooler and it 626 00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:06,160 Speaker 1: doesn't leak blood everywhere. I use a chamber back. They're 627 00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:09,520 Speaker 1: a little more expensive, but man, it's like commercial grade. 628 00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:12,160 Speaker 1: And when you're talking about grinders and meat processing stuff, 629 00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:17,560 Speaker 1: I put it in the same category as binoculars or optics, where, 630 00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:20,400 Speaker 1: honest to God, by the best you can afford, because 631 00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:25,280 Speaker 1: the higher horsepower motors for grinders, and like actually having 632 00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:27,560 Speaker 1: the right tool for the right job makes it so 633 00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:31,080 Speaker 1: much easier. If you're trying to butcher a whole elk 634 00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:35,200 Speaker 1: on a kitchen aid like set up, it sucks. I've 635 00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:37,800 Speaker 1: done it. I've done it on the cheap grinders. I've 636 00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:40,880 Speaker 1: done it on the low horsepower grinders, and it's a 637 00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:45,200 Speaker 1: toiling process. And then I started getting better stuff and 638 00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:47,880 Speaker 1: it like cuts the time in half, makes it so 639 00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:51,440 Speaker 1: much easier. It's like trying to build a house and 640 00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:55,280 Speaker 1: not using hammer but using a wrench to hammer and nails, 641 00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:57,800 Speaker 1: or you can have like the sausage stuff or the 642 00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:00,160 Speaker 1: mixer and the grinder, and if you're really going to 643 00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:02,959 Speaker 1: get into it and you're gonna do all your own processing, 644 00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:06,400 Speaker 1: and just factor out how much time it's going to 645 00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:09,520 Speaker 1: take you, how much you're gonna do, and then how 646 00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:12,240 Speaker 1: much you're saving over versus maybe even taking it to 647 00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:14,640 Speaker 1: the butcher and maybe get a couple of guys in 648 00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:18,560 Speaker 1: or whatever, and invest in good processing stuff, like it 649 00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:21,360 Speaker 1: is so much better product at the end, and so 650 00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:24,840 Speaker 1: much easier and more enjoyable when you have the right 651 00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:29,240 Speaker 1: tools to do it. I can't stress that enough. Man, 652 00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:32,680 Speaker 1: I feel like every hunter has gone through the process 653 00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:36,520 Speaker 1: of having bad processing equipment, Like that should be the 654 00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:38,960 Speaker 1: thing that you invest the most in, because that's the 655 00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:41,360 Speaker 1: best part about hunting is having all this great meat. 656 00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:44,400 Speaker 1: And when that process sucks or is a pain, you 657 00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:47,200 Speaker 1: don't want to do it, or it's takes so long, 658 00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:50,160 Speaker 1: Like it's just man, having good stuff is so much better. 659 00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:56,480 Speaker 1: So that I can test to j d Ass, he says, 660 00:33:56,920 --> 00:33:59,680 Speaker 1: have you ever cut tomahawks steaks out of deer or elk? 661 00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:01,720 Speaker 1: Winner how difficult it would be? In the field. The 662 00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:04,240 Speaker 1: answer is yes. I would say nine of the time 663 00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:08,319 Speaker 1: I do that. Now, a tomahawk steak would be the 664 00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:11,800 Speaker 1: backstrap with part of the rib in it. It's super 665 00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:14,600 Speaker 1: easy to do in the field. Now this might surprise you, 666 00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:17,000 Speaker 1: but you can actually even do it with the gutless 667 00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:20,120 Speaker 1: method in a way. So I'll do everything how I 668 00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:23,760 Speaker 1: normally do. Skin up the back, remove the hind quarters, 669 00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:26,640 Speaker 1: and then instead of taking the backstrap out the way 670 00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:30,480 Speaker 1: you normally would, I cut down the back of the 671 00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:34,279 Speaker 1: back strap. So the part that's against the spine cut that, 672 00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:36,520 Speaker 1: but not the lower part that's against the rib. You 673 00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:39,600 Speaker 1: leave that attached. Then you take your knife and you 674 00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:41,440 Speaker 1: can go from the stern um. If you don't have 675 00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:44,120 Speaker 1: a saw, you can go from the stern um um 676 00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:46,759 Speaker 1: and use your knife to split up the stern um 677 00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:49,839 Speaker 1: and then cut you know, around the rib there. And 678 00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:53,000 Speaker 1: it's so you're now getting into the cavity, but you 679 00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:55,200 Speaker 1: don't actually have to like gut the full deer because 680 00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:58,360 Speaker 1: everything else has removed. Your just removing the ribs. You 681 00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:00,200 Speaker 1: do that, and then you push it up and you 682 00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:02,440 Speaker 1: take your knife and you run it along between the 683 00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:04,400 Speaker 1: ribs and the spine on the top side and remove 684 00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:07,239 Speaker 1: the ribs from the spine and your backstrap is now 685 00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:09,640 Speaker 1: still attached to that. That's the easiest way to do it. 686 00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:11,839 Speaker 1: Do it all the time in the back country. Now, 687 00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:14,759 Speaker 1: I start carrying this a little tiny gerber saw, and 688 00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:16,640 Speaker 1: what I'll do is I'll go halfway down the ribs. 689 00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:19,160 Speaker 1: I'll rip down the ribs with the saw and then 690 00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:21,720 Speaker 1: I'll fold it up and then I use my knife 691 00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:24,759 Speaker 1: to remove the rib from the spine because it's a 692 00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:27,440 Speaker 1: little bit cleaner than cutting it. And you don't, you know, 693 00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:30,600 Speaker 1: get the like it's just easier, I think, But like 694 00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:33,640 Speaker 1: a stout knife works really well. But I've done the 695 00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:36,920 Speaker 1: same process like with wild pigs and everything, even just 696 00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:40,279 Speaker 1: with a replaceable blade vital knife, so it can be 697 00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:45,200 Speaker 1: done with anything but awesome cut to do all right, 698 00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:48,319 Speaker 1: Now here is the last question comes from Todd. He 699 00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:52,320 Speaker 1: says he really enjoys the podcast and loves the infro 700 00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:55,279 Speaker 1: in every episode. Plus it's entertaining. Thank you very much 701 00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:58,200 Speaker 1: appreciate that. So he says, this question is can you 702 00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:00,680 Speaker 1: give advice on finding a guided way estern hunt? He's 703 00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:03,840 Speaker 1: from Virginia and most of my hunting experience has been 704 00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:06,120 Speaker 1: our local white Tales. I would love to take my son, 705 00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:09,239 Speaker 1: who just finished college, on a Western hunting adventure. We 706 00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:11,960 Speaker 1: have never been West or applied for tags. I was 707 00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:14,600 Speaker 1: thinking for our first experience, maybe we should opt for 708 00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:17,360 Speaker 1: an outfitter guided hunt, but don't have a clue on 709 00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:20,520 Speaker 1: what states or species to get our first taste. Any 710 00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:24,359 Speaker 1: advice would be appreciated. That's a great question because as 711 00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:28,400 Speaker 1: an outfitting guide, I know that the value of going 712 00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:31,840 Speaker 1: with an outfitting guide, and a lot of this stuff 713 00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:34,120 Speaker 1: that I talked about is you know how to do 714 00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:36,080 Speaker 1: it on your own or whatever. But that does not 715 00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:38,839 Speaker 1: mean that even guys that hunt a lot, there are 716 00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:41,520 Speaker 1: many hunts that they should go guided for or with. 717 00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:43,600 Speaker 1: If you have the ability to do it. It's a 718 00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:47,319 Speaker 1: great way to get on a great hunt, and you know, 719 00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:51,520 Speaker 1: hunt with somebody that has more experience and knowledge and 720 00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:53,840 Speaker 1: can really help you in the process of getting to 721 00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:57,600 Speaker 1: the point of success. I will also say that, having 722 00:36:57,640 --> 00:37:00,200 Speaker 1: guided my entire life, I've worked for some outfits. If 723 00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:03,359 Speaker 1: I booked a hunt with aside from them hunting with me, 724 00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:06,840 Speaker 1: it was just a ship show and I and I 725 00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:09,120 Speaker 1: would say that most of my clients that come hunt 726 00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:13,040 Speaker 1: with my outfit have been on a bad trip at 727 00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:17,080 Speaker 1: some point until they land on our outfit. I'm not 728 00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:19,879 Speaker 1: like just trying to dispurge anyone, but I'm just saying that, yes, 729 00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:23,000 Speaker 1: there are good ones and bad ones like anything out there, 730 00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:26,720 Speaker 1: and it can be very hard to distinguish, honestly, and unfortunately, 731 00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:29,839 Speaker 1: the really good ones are near and possible to get 732 00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:34,120 Speaker 1: in on because they're booked up with repeat clients. So 733 00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:37,440 Speaker 1: I would say, here are some things that you should 734 00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:40,400 Speaker 1: think about anybody going on a guided hunt. And honestly, 735 00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:41,840 Speaker 1: there are a lot of good guys. You know, you 736 00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:43,840 Speaker 1: gotta understand, well, what kind of unit is it? Is 737 00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:46,400 Speaker 1: it private land, is public land? Is it hard to 738 00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:49,080 Speaker 1: get tags? Easy to get tags? So there's a lot 739 00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:51,600 Speaker 1: of factors into it, but word of mouth talking to 740 00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:53,960 Speaker 1: people is probably the best way to find somebody that 741 00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:55,600 Speaker 1: you're gonna have a good experience with or at least 742 00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:58,439 Speaker 1: matches your expectations. Also, you can get a good feel 743 00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:01,160 Speaker 1: for people just by talking to them. There are a 744 00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:02,600 Speaker 1: lot of outfitters out there, and I would say the 745 00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:04,799 Speaker 1: vast majority of them are really really good at what 746 00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:07,839 Speaker 1: they do, and they're probably the few bad ones are 747 00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:10,799 Speaker 1: the ones that give the rest of us a bad name. 748 00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:13,719 Speaker 1: But you know, I think one thing that's important is, 749 00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:16,799 Speaker 1: if possible, talking to references of people that you know, 750 00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:19,959 Speaker 1: you can search online, you know, look for photos and things, 751 00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:21,960 Speaker 1: and maybe just try to talk to some references of 752 00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:25,640 Speaker 1: people that have hunted with them, both successful and unsuccessful. Now, 753 00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:27,759 Speaker 1: I will say, you know, they may not give you 754 00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:30,560 Speaker 1: reference of people that had a terrible experience, but also 755 00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:33,480 Speaker 1: there are some people that may have gone and just 756 00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:35,640 Speaker 1: will never be satisfied and could have had the best 757 00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:38,120 Speaker 1: experience of their life and may not be satisfied either. 758 00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:41,040 Speaker 1: So talking to people that have done it, and then 759 00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:44,440 Speaker 1: you know, just looking at possibly just a track record. 760 00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:46,960 Speaker 1: I think one of the best things is if you 761 00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:49,600 Speaker 1: get somebody that went on a hunt and they said, 762 00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:52,959 Speaker 1: you know, I wasn't successful, but the guy worked really hard. 763 00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:56,279 Speaker 1: It was very enjoyable, very knowledgeable. Those are the people 764 00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:59,080 Speaker 1: you want to go with, the people that really embody 765 00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:01,520 Speaker 1: the entire experien arians. You know, where you should be 766 00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:03,759 Speaker 1: careful as the people that were successful, but say, yeah, 767 00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:06,440 Speaker 1: but it just wasn't that great of a trip, or 768 00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:08,600 Speaker 1: maybe not that great of a trip, but the only 769 00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:10,719 Speaker 1: reason they were happy was because they were successful. I 770 00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:13,279 Speaker 1: think a hunt should be based on so much more 771 00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:16,799 Speaker 1: than just that, So finding people that align with that 772 00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:22,120 Speaker 1: and are about the entire experience, not just success or unsuccess, 773 00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:24,000 Speaker 1: because there are many hunts out there that you could 774 00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:26,680 Speaker 1: go and you'll be successful, but it's just a shitty experience. 775 00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:28,799 Speaker 1: So those are the ones you want to avoid. The 776 00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:30,719 Speaker 1: ones you want to go on are the ones that 777 00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:35,000 Speaker 1: are about everything. You know, success probably will be high 778 00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:37,719 Speaker 1: with those type of people, but they also focus on 779 00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:43,520 Speaker 1: the experience as a whole. That concludes our Q and A. 780 00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:45,440 Speaker 1: I hope that that really helped some of you. I 781 00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:47,880 Speaker 1: really appreciate all the questions that I got, and I 782 00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:50,399 Speaker 1: know I picked some very specific stuff as far as 783 00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:52,719 Speaker 1: like the moose hunting and things like that, but it 784 00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:56,319 Speaker 1: was one thing, like I say in every podcast, the 785 00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:59,400 Speaker 1: questions that come in really try to dictate what I 786 00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:02,640 Speaker 1: talk about. And when I start getting a pile of 787 00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:05,640 Speaker 1: moose hunting questions, that tells me that there's a lack 788 00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:07,880 Speaker 1: of information out there on that. So maybe I will 789 00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:11,760 Speaker 1: do in the future some shiris moose hunting episodes or whatever. 790 00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:14,279 Speaker 1: But I also try to make things that are very 791 00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:18,520 Speaker 1: applicable to many people. I think that talking about butchering 792 00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:21,960 Speaker 1: and cooking. That thing also should be talked about a 793 00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:25,360 Speaker 1: lot more, because I mean, as hunters, that's something that 794 00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:27,319 Speaker 1: needs to be integral to what we do, and I 795 00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:29,560 Speaker 1: don't think that it really gets talked about as much either. 796 00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:32,719 Speaker 1: The fact that most hunters out there probably that do 797 00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:35,800 Speaker 1: their own butchering, have terrible equipment and hate the process, 798 00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:39,160 Speaker 1: and so just having some of those key pieces, that's 799 00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:41,440 Speaker 1: that's good stuff to talk about. So I really appreciate 800 00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:44,920 Speaker 1: all the questions from everyone. It's that time, it's planning, 801 00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:47,960 Speaker 1: the season is coming, we're gearing up, we're talking about 802 00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:50,920 Speaker 1: gear and other things, and I just really appreciate all 803 00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:55,759 Speaker 1: the interaction going through these questions that I got. You know, 804 00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:58,040 Speaker 1: I try to skim through as many of them as possible. 805 00:40:58,040 --> 00:40:59,839 Speaker 1: One thing that kept coming up was like, man, love 806 00:40:59,880 --> 00:41:03,239 Speaker 1: the podcast. I can't believe we get this information for free, 807 00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:05,800 Speaker 1: such good information, And it made me think, Yeah, I 808 00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:08,319 Speaker 1: don't know why I do it. You know, I do 809 00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:11,520 Speaker 1: it because it does make I honestly believe in what 810 00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:14,479 Speaker 1: I'm saying. And I have noticed that even just being 811 00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:16,920 Speaker 1: out recently in some place talking to some people that 812 00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:19,399 Speaker 1: have just found success. I'm like, man, am I giving 813 00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:22,680 Speaker 1: away too many of my secrets, But if you enjoy 814 00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:27,520 Speaker 1: things that we're talking about, please honestly feel free to subscribe. 815 00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:29,799 Speaker 1: I've said it before, but that helps us out. You know, 816 00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:33,040 Speaker 1: that keeps all the things going. Subscribe, drop us a 817 00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:36,040 Speaker 1: great comment wherever you listen, or a good rating, and 818 00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:39,279 Speaker 1: tell your friends to jump on in and subscribe and 819 00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:42,239 Speaker 1: listen to I appreciate that. 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