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Speaker 3: Welcome to another episode of the Action Network Podcast, NFL edition.

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Speaker 3: We are going to be talking about the Fantasy football

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Speaker 3: running Back one tier. So those top twelve running backs,

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Speaker 3: those guys that are probably thinking of taking with your

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Speaker 3: first round pick, your second round pick. Here to break

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Speaker 3: it down with me none other than my guys on

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Speaker 3: the Action Network, mister Sewan Corner, the odds maker, and

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Speaker 3: mister Ian Hartitz. Sean Ian, how are you guys doing?

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Speaker 2: What's up?

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Speaker 4: Chris Rady talks some running backs? Man, we got the

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Speaker 4: Hall of Fame game coming up. Football is finally back

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Speaker 4: in the air and I absolutely love it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I mean, Sean, I know you are. You're going to

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Speaker 3: be managing our preseason projection, so I know you're looking

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Speaker 3: forward to to kind of jumping headfirst into projecting fifth

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Speaker 3: stringers for eleven different games over the span of three

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Speaker 3: days coming up starting next week.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely. Yeah, I've been, you know, getting antsy, needing to

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Speaker 1: project some you know, upcoming games, and we get one

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Speaker 1: this week, you know, despite it being just you know,

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Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame game. I just love it. I

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Speaker 1: love this time of year, getting back in the swing

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Speaker 1: of things. And yeah, ready to talk about some running

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Speaker 1: backs today.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely. And for you guys listening out there if you

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Speaker 3: want to see more of our rankings, Sean myself and

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Speaker 3: Matthew Freeman, who is on vacation right now, we'll be

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Speaker 3: back on the pod soon. Our rankings are up on

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Speaker 3: the Action Network at action dot com. If you are

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Speaker 3: an Edge subscriber, you can access all those. You can

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Speaker 3: be sure to check that out. And Ian as he

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Speaker 3: talks about all his thoughts on these backs, be sure

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Speaker 3: to check out him and his author page again Action

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Speaker 3: Network dot Com. Ianharditz ton of content out every day,

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Speaker 3: one of the hardest working people in this industry, so

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Speaker 3: just wanted to get that out off the top. Let's

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Speaker 3: jump right in because we're going to talk about our

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Speaker 3: overall approach. We're going to talk about backs that were

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Speaker 3: higher on, lower on than the rest of the industry,

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Speaker 3: and we're going to kind of go through each of

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Speaker 3: these top twelve who, by the way, according to the

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Speaker 3: Fantasy Pros halfpoint PPR Rankings average raft position excuse me,

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Speaker 3: Saquon Barkley, Ezekiel Elliott, Christian McCaffrey, Alvin Kamara, David Johnson

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Speaker 3: are the top five, followed by Le'Veon Bell now on

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Speaker 3: the New York Jets, Melvin Gordon holding out right now

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Speaker 3: number seven, James Connor of the Steelers number eight, Joe

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Speaker 3: Mixon for Cincinnati number nine, then Todd Gurley course with

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Speaker 3: those injury concerns at number ten, Nick Chubb, the second

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Speaker 3: year back for Cleveland at number eleven, and Dalvin Cook,

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Speaker 3: Biken's third year man at number twelve. Sean, I'm going

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Speaker 3: to start with you overall thoughts and approach to the

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Speaker 3: running back position for fantasy football in twenty nineteen.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean, I consider the running back position

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Speaker 1: obviously the most critical for fantasy football. It's definitely the

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Speaker 1: to you know, depth chart changes. I mean, especially this year.

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Speaker 1: I like waiting at running back. Obviously, if you have

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Speaker 1: So I think it's important to get a stud running back.

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Speaker 3: Okay, and Ian, I'm gonna kick it to you in

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Speaker 3: a second. But Sean, I just wanted to kind of

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Speaker 3: follow up with two things. Number One, you have you know,

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Speaker 3: your upside ratings out for running backs on Action Network

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Speaker 3: dot Com, slash NFL right now. And second, you know

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Speaker 3: last season, I think when we did these podcasts, you know,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's a great point. I was a little

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Speaker 1: bit different with my approach last year. As you know,

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Speaker 1: I hated the running back two tier last year. I'm

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Speaker 1: to like the RB two range. I mean you have well,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'll get to him later. I think Daniel

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Speaker 1: then you mentioned my running back Upside article. I basically

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Speaker 1: I did a whole article on all thirty two teams.

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Speaker 3: There ian any ways in which your approach at the

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Speaker 2: Now, I think I'm with Sean most of the way here.

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Speaker 4: It's kind of the big five backs and that includes

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Speaker 2: So I'm all about those big five.

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Speaker 4: And then yeah, if I can't get and a lot

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Speaker 4: get one of those Fournette Aaron Jones, Derek Henry, Josh

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Speaker 4: think people remember really how involved Mike Davis wasn't that

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Speaker 4: if another receiving back potentially emerges there. But there is

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Speaker 4: a lot of talent kind of in the three to

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Speaker 2: I don't think it was there last year.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, give me, you know, at least guys that

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Speaker 3: I think you really hit on it with that last

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Speaker 3: thing you said, Ian, there's a lot of value in

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Speaker 3: that running back. You know it was rounds three to five,

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Speaker 3: because that's kind of my approach to It's. Yeah, if

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Speaker 3: think Zeke just because of the holdout, and we'll talk

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Speaker 3: you know, you know that those McCaffrey's, those Barkleys, those guys,

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Speaker 3: I if I can't get one of them, I'm happy

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Speaker 3: going receiver. I'm happy going with the receiver in the

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Speaker 3: I think those top three stud tight ends there's a

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Speaker 3: if I can get yeah, Josh Jacobs and Freeman and

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Speaker 3: as my top two running backs, I've kind of mitigated

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Speaker 3: getting that same RB one upside. So I'm with you

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Speaker 3: guys there, Sean, I'm gonna kick it back to you.

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Speaker 3: One running back you're much higher on in twenty nineteen,

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Speaker 3: and obviously we will get into, you know, all of

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Speaker 3: and then one guy you're a lot lower on, and

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Speaker 1: And one the guy I'm higher on in the industry

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Speaker 1: is definitely gonna Tagus Murray. He was my top guy

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Speaker 1: a lot, like Derrick Henry and Tevin Coleman last year,

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Speaker 1: they just have so much upside if their counterpart were

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Speaker 4: I think Eckler is by far the guy you want

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Speaker 1: Right now, I'm going with Chalk with Sayklon Barkley. I

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Speaker 3: sixteenth best PPR running back season of all time, two

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Speaker 3: hundred and ninety four point eight standard points, also the

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Speaker 3: third best rookie back season in forty fifty years, So

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Speaker 3: I mean, you know, you can't go wrong with Barkley.

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Speaker 3: I haven't projected for two hundred and forty eight carries,

435
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Speaker 3: eleven hundred twenty yards, nine nine point two scores on

436
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Speaker 3: the ground, another one hundred nine targets, eighty three catches,

437
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Speaker 3: six hundred and sixty one receiving yards, and three point

438
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Speaker 3: five receiving touchdowns in fifteen games. I always dock running

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Speaker 3: backs at least one game just because of the nature

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Speaker 3: of the position. So I never projected any running back

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Speaker 3: for it for a full sixteen or any player really,

442
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Speaker 3: because that's kind of unrealistic. Ian, just give us their

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Speaker 3: top tier of running backs, because there's kind of a

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Speaker 3: tier here. Sean kind of alluded to it. You got

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Speaker 3: the top four, then the David Johnson's maybe in that

446
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Speaker 3: fifth spot, which you alluded to. It's kind of that

447
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Speaker 3: tier where you finally you start looking away from running

448
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Speaker 3: backs and toward receiver in that first round. So give

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Speaker 3: us your your top tier backs and tell me your

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Speaker 3: rankings of those top guys.

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Speaker 4: Top tier backs in this order are Christian McCaffrey, Saquon Barkley,

452
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Speaker 4: and Zeko Elliott, Alvin Kamara, and David Johnson. I understand

453
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Speaker 4: if you're a little more worried about Zeke, you know,

454
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Speaker 4: you can drop him the fourth behind Kamara. But I mean,

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Speaker 4: if you had the number one overall pick in your

456
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Speaker 4: fantasy draft, you really want to pick the guy that's

457
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Speaker 4: going to spend more time next to Elon Manning than

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Speaker 4: anyone else in the league this year. I mean, that's

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Speaker 4: my whole issue because Saquon and McCaffrey, I think there's

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Speaker 4: only two players in the league that could realistically lead

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Speaker 4: their offense in rushing and receiving. One of them's in

462
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Speaker 4: a Carolina offense that's looking pretty good this year. I

463
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Speaker 4: mean as long as I mean Dway Cam's been throwing

464
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Speaker 4: the ball, expecting them to be in above average unit.

465
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Speaker 4: And then we got the Giants who looked like the

466
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Speaker 4: biggest joke in the league. They just lost the one

467
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Speaker 4: wide receiver they had that defense needed to respect. And

468
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Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, it's cool that now they have no

469
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Speaker 4: other choice to throw check down Saquon Barkley, But I

470
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Speaker 4: mean defenses, even more so in last year, are going

471
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Speaker 4: to have to sell out like none other just to

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Speaker 4: hold Saquon Barkley. And I don't think the same can

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Speaker 4: be said for McCaffrey because he's a little bit more versatile,

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Speaker 4: I think, and just their uses of them using them

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Speaker 4: as a.

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Speaker 2: Wide receiver, and he's got the higher floor there.

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Speaker 4: I think less things go wrong with McCaffrey, just based

478
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Speaker 4: on how absurd that target share is. Only Michael Thomas, Jarvis, Landry,

479
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Speaker 4: and OBJ along with McCaffrey have caught at least one

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Speaker 4: hundred and seventy passes in the first two seasons. The

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Speaker 4: guy's a legitimate, like wide receiver one when it comes

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Speaker 4: to the receiving workload. And yeah, he's a pretty good

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Speaker 4: rusher as well. We saw we all saw the picture

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Speaker 4: of him looking jacked in offseason workouts. So McCaffrey's here

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Speaker 4: shore of the load and he's my number one RB.

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Speaker 3: The way I respond to that is I'm witching that

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Speaker 3: I have no problem taking McCaffrey over Barkley, because I

488
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Speaker 3: think Sean kind of said it. You know, you give

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Speaker 3: me any random pick of these top four guys, maybe

490
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Speaker 3: you could say I might even put Johnson in that

491
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Speaker 3: over Zeke just because of the downside. But you know,

492
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Speaker 3: there there's such little separating a lot of these guys.

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Speaker 3: For people out there that are sweating their number one pick,

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Speaker 3: don't like, don't sweat your number one pick. There's so

495
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Speaker 3: many better ways that you can spend your time preparing

496
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Speaker 3: for this fantasy season than lamenting over which of these guys,

497
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Speaker 3: are you going to take whis your first round pick?

498
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Speaker 3: You're fine with any of them. I do Thinkarkeley has

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Speaker 3: the higher ceiling because of Cam Newton's presence, because Cam

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Speaker 3: has averaged over seven rushing scores a year. And if

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Speaker 3: you're talking about absolute upside, I mean you're essentially saying, hey, like,

502
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Speaker 3: if you know, if everything goes right for either offense,

503
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Speaker 3: who could score more fantasy points? And I think it's

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Speaker 3: Barkley because Eli Manning isn't going to take any of

505
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Speaker 3: his touchdowns. And I think, I mean the floor is

506
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Speaker 3: pretty sky high too when you consider that all those

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Speaker 3: reasons that, yes, they are knocks on Barkley in terms of,

508
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Speaker 3: you know, Manning in the offense, all those things are

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Speaker 3: present last year. Essentially, yes, they had Beckham for part

510
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Speaker 3: of the season, but they had a bad offensive line.

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Speaker 3: They had Eli Manning out there, you know, checking it

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Speaker 3: down all day. So I don't think much has changed

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Speaker 3: in that regard. And all you're doing is losing receivers,

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Speaker 3: which we know that when downfield guys aren't as much

515
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Speaker 3: of an option, that's when running back targets go up.

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Speaker 3: You know, if Eli or whoever's behind center for the

517
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Speaker 3: Giants doesn't have Shepherd for any period of time because

518
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Speaker 3: of the thumb, and they don't have Kate for the

519
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Speaker 3: four games. That's just more likely that Barkley gets even

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Speaker 3: more more work. So I still I'm still riding with

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Speaker 3: Barkley as my RB one, followed by McCaffrey, Alvin Kamara

522
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Speaker 3: number three, and I still have Zeke number four, but

523
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Speaker 3: but I am considering dropping him to number five, below

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Speaker 3: David Johnson. But right around after that here, that's when

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Speaker 3: I'm looking at some wide receivers. But let's let's talk

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Speaker 3: about these holdouts, these holdout situations. Because we have z

527
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Speaker 3: holding out in Mexico apparently wants to take full advantage

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Speaker 3: of that. The Cowboys just signed Alfred Morris. We we

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Speaker 3: put some additional thoughts up in our We have an

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Speaker 3: article about this on the Action Network Ian Sean and

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Speaker 3: myself where we kind of talk about how how these

532
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Speaker 3: holdouts affect the value of these guys. But we'll talk

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Speaker 3: about it more here. Sean, I'm gonna kick it to

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Speaker 3: you first. How does the holdout in camp because there's still,

535
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Speaker 3: you know, over a month out from the season, So

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Speaker 3: how does a holdout at this point for Ezekiel Elliott

537
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Speaker 3: and for Melvin Gordon, Uh, you know, how does it

538
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Speaker 3: affect their fantasy value at this point and how does

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Speaker 3: that change as the holdout kind of drags on.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's it's definitely a vulnerable situation that you

541
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Speaker 1: have to pay attention to daily and it can change

542
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Speaker 1: any minute now. So you know, taking Zeke first, I'm

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Speaker 1: a little less concerned about that. Like I said, I

544
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Speaker 1: still would draft them fourth overall. And then you know

545
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Speaker 1: the other part is, you know, are there backs that

546
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Speaker 1: you want to stash later on from the Cowboys to

547
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Speaker 1: take advantage of this? And the answer before yesterday was no,

548
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Speaker 1: it was a little too murky. You couldn't really tell

549
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Speaker 1: how that backfield would shape up if Zeke misses time.

550
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Speaker 1: But you know, as you mentioned, they brought in Alfred Morris,

551
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Speaker 1: so I think, you know, super late in drafts, you know,

552
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Speaker 1: last two rounds. I think you could take a flyer

553
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Speaker 1: on Morris just in case, especially if you take Zeke

554
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Speaker 1: uh fourth overall. But I'm a little less concerned about that.

555
00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:40,560
Speaker 1: I'm still assuming Zeke will report before week one. But

556
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Speaker 1: you know, in terms of the Chargers situation, Melvin Gordon,

557
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Speaker 1: I'm basically avoiding completely. I think there is a better

558
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Speaker 1: chance that he misses some time this year, and you

559
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Speaker 1: know that we talked about all the time the first

560
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Speaker 1: three rounds. Just try not to screw up. So I'm

561
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Speaker 1: more confident in my ability to just pass on Gordon

562
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Speaker 1: and just you know, manage my team well to overcome that.

563
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Speaker 1: I guess, but let someone else take on that risk.

564
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Speaker 1: Draft someone else, and then you know, in the mid

565
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Speaker 1: rounds Ian mentioned it. I think Austin Eckler is still

566
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Speaker 1: too cheap right now, so it's even more reason to

567
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Speaker 1: take him, even more reason to take Justin Jackson later

568
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Speaker 1: on as a flyer. Who you know, if Gordon were

569
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Speaker 1: to hold out the whole season, Justin Jackson is just

570
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Speaker 1: an Austin Eckler injury for injury away from being a

571
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Speaker 1: league winner. So I think I'm more looking at the

572
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Speaker 1: backups for the Chargers, and I'm still drafting Zeke right now.

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Speaker 4: It seems like Tony Pollard or Cowboy's fourth un pick.

574
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Speaker 4: He's kind of being pigeonholed as more their receiving back.

575
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Speaker 4: That's why they brought it out for Morris. But I

576
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Speaker 4: think Morris has to beat out Mike Weber or at

577
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Speaker 4: least they're gonna have a competition for that potential early

578
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Speaker 4: down role coming Weber, big guy out of Ohio stage.

579
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Speaker 4: He's got ran a four to fourth the combine. I mean,

580
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Speaker 4: not the most overworked guy either, because he kind of

581
00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:52,160
Speaker 4: was in a committee with JK. Dobbins for the last

582
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Speaker 4: few years there. So I mean Morris is, you know,

583
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Speaker 4: everyone's mind right now because he just got signed and everything.

584
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Speaker 4: But I wouldn't underestimate, and I we'll see how the

585
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Speaker 4: preseason games work out.

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Speaker 2: I think Wabrokul ultimately win that job.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, it's tough. I think last year I

588
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Speaker 3: was a little more low on Morris than a lot

589
00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:11,280
Speaker 3: of people because he kind of say, a similar situation happened,

590
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Speaker 3: right we were all excited about Jared McKinnon and you know,

591
00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:19,360
Speaker 3: he goes down. Matt Breed is still there. Second year

592
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Speaker 3: for him, Morris gets signed and everyone's like, hey, Morris

593
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Speaker 3: is gonna be the guy. He's gonna lead the team

594
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Speaker 3: in everything, and it didn't really shape up. And I

595
00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:29,080
Speaker 3: was on team Brida this year. I think I'm more

596
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Speaker 3: on team Morris than anybody else in the Cowboys backfield.

597
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Speaker 3: And that's simply because you have to kind of pay

598
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Speaker 3: attention to the organizations, and the Cowboys are a team

599
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Speaker 3: that they generally favor veteran presences. I think that goes

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Speaker 3: right back to Jerry Jones. You know, when they're on

601
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Speaker 3: board with a rookie, it's guy guy like, it's a

602
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Speaker 3: guy like Zeke Like. They're still taking running backs in

603
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Speaker 3: the top five. This is that kind of team. They

604
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Speaker 3: feel the need to get established guys. You know how

605
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Speaker 3: many combined NFL carries that the guys behind Zeke on

606
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Speaker 3: the running back depth truck had sixty one and fifty

607
00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:02,439
Speaker 3: five were the fullback Jimmy's. So you know, Darius Jackson

608
00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:04,120
Speaker 3: was a rookie action he didn't really get any work.

609
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Speaker 3: I think Weber is a guy that could make the team.

610
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Speaker 3: But I think Pollard he was kind of brought in

611
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Speaker 3: as a rookie as well to take some of the

612
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Speaker 3: work the load off Zeke on passing downs. I think

613
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Speaker 3: he could think of him more like that old Lance

614
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Speaker 3: Dunbar role. I think Pollard will get increased reps if

615
00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:20,040
Speaker 3: Zeke misses any time, because Poward is simply you know,

616
00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:20,600
Speaker 3: he's got.

617
00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:21,040
Speaker 2: Some juice to him.

618
00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:23,560
Speaker 3: He can move, but I do think the fact that

619
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Speaker 3: they gave Morris those sixteen and a half carries two

620
00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:27,800
Speaker 3: years ago in that six game app since that they

621
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Speaker 3: brought him back for that specific reason for Zeke insurance

622
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Speaker 3: that if Zeke goes down, Mars is getting is getting

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Speaker 3: fifteen carries the game, and then Pollard is getting his

624
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Speaker 3: third down role, with maybe a little bit more on

625
00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:39,919
Speaker 3: top of that, just to kind of get some more

626
00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:43,160
Speaker 3: explosiveness in that backfield. But I think at this point,

627
00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:44,320
Speaker 3: Mars is still going to be the guy, and I

628
00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:47,240
Speaker 3: think Weber is in competition with Darius Jackson and I

629
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Speaker 3: guess Jordan Chun another second year undrafted guy for probably

630
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Speaker 3: that fourth running back spot that would move up to

631
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Speaker 3: third then if Zeke was out and become active on

632
00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:59,720
Speaker 3: game days. But haven't heard too much buzz surrounding Weber

633
00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:01,639
Speaker 3: in camp so far, So now's the kind of that

634
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:04,520
Speaker 3: time to monitor, because yeah, if Webber, you know, start

635
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:06,800
Speaker 3: you start hearing more about Weber, then then you start

636
00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:09,040
Speaker 3: to pay attention because Marris, I mean, I'm not a

637
00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:11,440
Speaker 3: fan of these two back, two down guys that really

638
00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:14,000
Speaker 3: aren't explosive, but it seems like the Cowboys are and

639
00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:15,919
Speaker 3: they have they have the offensive line to kind of

640
00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:19,160
Speaker 3: do it. I have knocked Elliott down to fourteen games.

641
00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:20,679
Speaker 3: He's one of the few running backs I even had

642
00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:23,920
Speaker 3: at fifteen to start, because he has just proven durable

643
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:26,240
Speaker 3: throughout his career. He's a big guy, but I knocked

644
00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:28,960
Speaker 3: him down at fourteen. And Melvin Gordon I actually have

645
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:31,840
Speaker 3: at twelve and a half games played because if you

646
00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:34,119
Speaker 3: look at the history of running back holdouts and on

647
00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:37,080
Speaker 3: Twitter at Chris Raybon a few days ago, I tweeted

648
00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:38,880
Speaker 3: kind of a spreadsheet of all the running back holdouts

649
00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:41,320
Speaker 3: that I could recall and kind of got crowdsource some

650
00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:44,480
Speaker 3: help there. But it turns out that that running back

651
00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:47,760
Speaker 3: holdouts don't really cost many games for most guys. Like

652
00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:50,840
Speaker 3: the median games missed is still zero among you know,

653
00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:53,160
Speaker 3: it's still under two dozen sample size here, but the

654
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:55,600
Speaker 3: median miss games is still zero. A couple guys have

655
00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:57,240
Speaker 3: missed all sixteen. That's kind of that kind of bring

656
00:28:57,280 --> 00:28:59,680
Speaker 3: the average to to I think that two to three range,

657
00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:03,080
Speaker 3: but usually you're expecting zero to two miss games. And

658
00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:05,840
Speaker 3: the thing with Gordon is and all these guys is

659
00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:09,240
Speaker 3: that they've missed games more because of injury. Once they

660
00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:11,160
Speaker 3: come back from that hold up, so kind of not practicing,

661
00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:13,440
Speaker 3: not playing at all, kind of being away for the team.

662
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:15,560
Speaker 3: You can never be sure how that's going to affect

663
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:18,520
Speaker 3: a guy's durability once they do return. We kind of

664
00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:20,080
Speaker 3: saw that with Le'Veon Bell in a different way a

665
00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:21,720
Speaker 3: couple of years ago, and he started the year slow.

666
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:24,080
Speaker 3: So that's that's where I kind of I'm at with

667
00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:27,480
Speaker 3: the situation. But yeah, it is a really tough, involidle situation,

668
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:30,760
Speaker 3: something to keep tabs on all summer long. I do

669
00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:33,080
Speaker 3: like Morris's The Wait Mom Fly, you know, speaking of

670
00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:35,840
Speaker 3: injuries and involved those situations. Todd Gurley when he's on

671
00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:38,240
Speaker 3: the field, he's probably the top running back in fantasy.

672
00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:42,400
Speaker 3: Arthritic knee condition down the stretch last year wasn't the

673
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:45,240
Speaker 3: same guy. That was clear when he wasn't playing his

674
00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:48,960
Speaker 3: usual role in the playoffs nor in the Super Bowl Seeding.

675
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:51,480
Speaker 3: A lot of work to C J. Anderson, Sean, where

676
00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:53,200
Speaker 3: are you and Todd Gurley entering twenty nineteen?

677
00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:55,880
Speaker 1: So right now I have him right around two hundred

678
00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:59,080
Speaker 1: and fifty to two hundred and sixty total touches. I think,

679
00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:01,880
Speaker 1: you know, some of the the knee concern might have

680
00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:05,120
Speaker 1: been just you know, May June overreaction. We didn't really

681
00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:07,600
Speaker 1: have much else to talk about. But you know, I

682
00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:10,520
Speaker 1: think he should be relatively healthy to start there, and

683
00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:13,240
Speaker 1: they'll probably just you know, manage his workload. They already

684
00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:16,080
Speaker 1: talked about having Darryl Henderson be sort of the Chris

685
00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:18,960
Speaker 1: Thompson role to start there, So I think, you know,

686
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:21,080
Speaker 1: we'll just we'll just see a little less in the

687
00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:23,760
Speaker 1: touches department, but you know, he should still be pretty

688
00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:26,200
Speaker 1: involved around the goal line. I think with him, you

689
00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:28,800
Speaker 1: still have that touchdown upside, So you know, if we

690
00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:33,680
Speaker 1: kind of overreacted from the initial scare, you know, he

691
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:36,320
Speaker 1: could have some value. Having said that, I still, like

692
00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:39,120
Speaker 1: I said, I'm pretty risked verse in the first three rounds,

693
00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:41,280
Speaker 1: so I think unless he falls to me sort of

694
00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:44,240
Speaker 1: in the mid third, I'm kind of staying away. And

695
00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:47,520
Speaker 1: you know, Darryl Henderson he does have some upside. He's

696
00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:50,480
Speaker 1: fallen to closer to the round seven or round eight range,

697
00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:53,240
Speaker 1: so I'm more looking to him. Just with my overall

698
00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:57,000
Speaker 1: draft plan, I think it's it's probably more likely all

699
00:30:57,240 --> 00:31:00,360
Speaker 1: you know, target gall like Henderson later on than kind

700
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:02,760
Speaker 1: of roll the dice with Curly early on. But I

701
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:04,320
Speaker 1: think it's something that we don't need to be as

702
00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:05,960
Speaker 1: concerned about as we initially thought.

703
00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:09,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, Ian, how are you feeling about Gurley entering twenty nineteen?

704
00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:09,920
Speaker 1: Where are you drafting him?

705
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:12,080
Speaker 4: I got him, I was like my RB thirteen right now,

706
00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:14,160
Speaker 4: But I'm kind of more okay letting someone else take

707
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:16,600
Speaker 4: a chance on him. I like the Chris Thompson point

708
00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:19,800
Speaker 4: by Seanks, I mean, and Sean mcvay's last year in Washington,

709
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:21,920
Speaker 4: we did see kind of more of a committee backfield.

710
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:24,720
Speaker 4: Chris Thomps had sixty two targets and then Rob Kelly

711
00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:28,200
Speaker 4: and Matt Jones combined around two hundred and sixty carries together.

712
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:30,280
Speaker 4: So if we do see that again, I think it

713
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:32,080
Speaker 4: makes sense for Gurly to become kind of the more

714
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:34,600
Speaker 4: run first back in Henderson, being used a.

715
00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:35,840
Speaker 2: Little bit more out of the backfield.

716
00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:38,040
Speaker 4: But look, I mean, we still have two years of

717
00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:40,120
Speaker 4: evidence of the Rams, you know, working as anyone's idea

718
00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 4: of the top five offense, so the lead back and

719
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:44,400
Speaker 4: that's still gonna be valuable. But yeah, I mean unless

720
00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:46,440
Speaker 4: he falls to me too, farm gonna take guys like

721
00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:48,000
Speaker 4: Dowlin Cook and Nick Chubb.

722
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:48,960
Speaker 2: Ahead of him. I think every time.

723
00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:52,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I do think that there was a

724
00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:55,800
Speaker 3: little bit of that overreactive element, you know, to Giry,

725
00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:57,280
Speaker 3: But I also think there's a little bit of the

726
00:31:57,320 --> 00:32:01,120
Speaker 3: opposite going on as well, where you know, obviously, if

727
00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:02,640
Speaker 3: girl is going to be healthy, it's going to be

728
00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:04,240
Speaker 3: in camp and it's going to be now. And the

729
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:06,680
Speaker 3: question is, if you're taking this guy early on, is

730
00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:09,120
Speaker 3: he still going to be healthy in in November and

731
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:12,600
Speaker 3: in those fantasy playoffs in December. So I think there's

732
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:15,200
Speaker 3: kind of a give and take here where you can't

733
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:17,720
Speaker 3: chalk it all up to just an overreaction, because I

734
00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:20,920
Speaker 3: think some of it is warranted. That said, on the

735
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:23,320
Speaker 3: flip side, you know, you knock him down touches wise,

736
00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:26,280
Speaker 3: and I have him at one hundred and ninety six

737
00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:29,960
Speaker 3: carries and thirty eight receptions in fourteen games, so still

738
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:33,760
Speaker 3: about sixteen seventeen touches per game. And even when you

739
00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:35,959
Speaker 3: have him at that level instead of the previous kind

740
00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:38,640
Speaker 3: of twenty touch guy he's been, he still projects out

741
00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:41,440
Speaker 3: as my running back ten. So that shows you the

742
00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:43,719
Speaker 3: kind of upside there. And I think it's up to

743
00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:47,280
Speaker 3: anyone drafting individually whether you truly want to pull that trigger.

744
00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:49,719
Speaker 3: I tend to do it more in kind of unconventional

745
00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:52,240
Speaker 3: week types where for example, three man best balls. A

746
00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:54,960
Speaker 3: lot of times people are hung up on taking tight

747
00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:57,640
Speaker 3: ends and receivers, and you'll find Girly in those last

748
00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:00,320
Speaker 3: few rounds kind of sitting there. You know, there's a

749
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:03,200
Speaker 3: lot less risk there. I'm in this traditional twelve team league,

750
00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:06,440
Speaker 3: I'm usually am passing on him because there is usually

751
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:08,320
Speaker 3: somebody that pulls a trigger on him. Even before that

752
00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:10,280
Speaker 3: that number ten running back off the board that I

753
00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:12,200
Speaker 3: have him and then I also have I think I

754
00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:15,000
Speaker 3: feel a lot more comfortable with the stud receivers over growing,

755
00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:18,680
Speaker 3: because again, receivers tendaments about half as much time as

756
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:23,160
Speaker 3: running backs due to injury. Let's go on a little

757
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:25,520
Speaker 3: further down these running backs here, because I know we

758
00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:27,680
Speaker 3: already talked a lot about about David Johnson, so I'm

759
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:29,120
Speaker 3: not gonna spend too much time. I think we all

760
00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:31,160
Speaker 3: kind of feel like he's right at or outside that

761
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:34,560
Speaker 3: top tier of backs. With Kyler Million, Cliff Kingsbury his

762
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:36,520
Speaker 3: one year lost to injury, it was kind of a

763
00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:39,920
Speaker 3: freak risk issue. Wasn't like he's been suffering a bunch

764
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:42,200
Speaker 3: of soft tissue stuff, and I think the spread offense

765
00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:44,480
Speaker 3: opens it up and mass the o Win's deficiency. So

766
00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:47,560
Speaker 3: let's just get right into another guy that used to

767
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:49,760
Speaker 3: be talked of in the same breath as Johnson at

768
00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:52,760
Speaker 3: one point. Now it seems most people are kind of

769
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:55,760
Speaker 3: a bit lower on him, and that's Rayveon Bell, of course,

770
00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:57,680
Speaker 3: sat out all of last year in the contact track

771
00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:00,920
Speaker 3: dispute with the Steelers and now on with the New

772
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:04,520
Speaker 3: York Jets. Sean, how are you feeling about Le'Veon Bell

773
00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:08,399
Speaker 3: this year and his value relative to that top tier

774
00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:09,440
Speaker 3: of running backs.

775
00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:12,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, so this is where we definitely see, you know,

776
00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:16,200
Speaker 1: a drop in tiers. I was gonna say, I haven't

777
00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:18,120
Speaker 1: really touched on David Johnson yet, but he's sort of

778
00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:21,080
Speaker 1: in his own little mini tier. I call that basically

779
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:24,120
Speaker 1: fantasy purgatory. If basically, if you have the fifth pick,

780
00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:29,320
Speaker 1: you're getting David Johnson, So I guess unless somebody lets

781
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:31,920
Speaker 1: Zeke fall to you. But just I just think of

782
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:34,120
Speaker 1: the fifth pick being you get David Johnson. There's not

783
00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:35,239
Speaker 1: really much you could do about it.

784
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:37,680
Speaker 3: There's no way you would go Johnson over Zeke at.

785
00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:40,279
Speaker 1: All, period, not right now, just because I do think

786
00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:43,040
Speaker 1: there is enough separating them. If the Zeke thing, like

787
00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:45,239
Speaker 1: I think, if he doesn't report by August sixth, that

788
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:47,920
Speaker 1: could indicate something. You know, I'm gonna look for markers

789
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:51,040
Speaker 1: like that, But right now today I'll still be drafting

790
00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:54,800
Speaker 1: Zeke fourth. But you know, it breaks up right there.

791
00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:57,760
Speaker 1: And I do, like Bell, I think we can bank

792
00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:01,400
Speaker 1: on a decent workload. You know, if Adam Gase, nothing's guaranteed.

793
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:04,239
Speaker 1: He's so used to running behind that good you know,

794
00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:06,960
Speaker 1: Steelers offensive line. He's gone the Jets, so you know,

795
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:08,880
Speaker 1: I think it could be a concern for his patient

796
00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:11,480
Speaker 1: style of running, you know, just waiting behind line of scrimmage,

797
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:13,920
Speaker 1: waiting for hold open up. Those might not happen. So

798
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:16,600
Speaker 1: I think his efficiency could take a dip. And that's

799
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:18,520
Speaker 1: sort of where I think he has a He has

800
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:21,720
Speaker 1: a really low floor for these you know RB one guys,

801
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:25,520
Speaker 1: but really, any one of these guys after David Johnson,

802
00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:27,080
Speaker 1: you can make the case they have a low floor.

803
00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:29,840
Speaker 1: I think the uh, you know, the bottom half of

804
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:31,719
Speaker 1: the RB one tier there's a lot of land mines

805
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:34,600
Speaker 1: or potential land mines, and Levion Bell could be one

806
00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:37,120
Speaker 1: of those guys. But having said that, I almost don't

807
00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:40,480
Speaker 1: even think about taking him because he's going where I

808
00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:42,480
Speaker 1: typically just take, you know, the top one of the

809
00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:45,920
Speaker 1: top wide receivers I mentioned earlier. My my plan this

810
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:48,719
Speaker 1: year is to load up on top stud by receivers.

811
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:51,319
Speaker 1: And you know, when LiveOn Bell is going, if you

812
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:55,040
Speaker 1: know Kelsey or DeAndre Hopkins or DeVante Adams are there,

813
00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:58,480
Speaker 1: I'm just passing up on Bell completely. But yeah, I'm

814
00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:00,720
Speaker 1: curious to hear what you guys thought on him because

815
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:02,799
Speaker 1: I've i haven't been giving much, but you know, my

816
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:05,520
Speaker 1: projections for him are pretty solid. I still expect a

817
00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:06,839
Speaker 1: decent sized workload for him.

818
00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:09,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's definitely a lower floor situation for him. I

819
00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:11,319
Speaker 4: think the big question mark is what is target share

820
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:12,640
Speaker 4: is going to be. Like, I mean, this was a

821
00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:15,879
Speaker 4: guy that won very few running backs that you could realistically,

822
00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:18,120
Speaker 4: you know, account for triple digit targets on a year

823
00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:20,840
Speaker 4: by year basis in Pittsburgh. Now he's got Sam Darnold,

824
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:22,759
Speaker 4: who I mean, judging from the first year sample size,

825
00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:24,120
Speaker 4: I don't think he's gonna be as willing to as

826
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:26,040
Speaker 4: dump it off as men. You know, Sam likes to

827
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:28,120
Speaker 4: run around a little bit and make some plays, toss

828
00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:30,920
Speaker 4: it deep to Robbie Anderson downfield. And now on that offense,

829
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:32,799
Speaker 4: we've got Jamison Crowder in the slot, who I think

830
00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:34,239
Speaker 4: is going to take away a lot of those kind

831
00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:34,720
Speaker 4: of short.

832
00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 2: Dump off type passes.

833
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:39,200
Speaker 4: Complicating matters further is the fact that Adam Gase his

834
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:41,600
Speaker 4: entire coaching career, has run one of the slowest paced

835
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:44,239
Speaker 4: offenses in the entire league. So it's gonna be less

836
00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:47,760
Speaker 4: efficient touches and there's probably gonna be fewer overall touches

837
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:48,600
Speaker 4: with in the course of a.

838
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:50,120
Speaker 2: Game, I mean volumes volume.

839
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:52,960
Speaker 4: Leveon's talking about getting what four or five hundred carries

840
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:55,279
Speaker 4: this year he was joking about so, I mean he's

841
00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:57,759
Speaker 4: saying all the right things, apologizing the fantasy owners. I

842
00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:00,000
Speaker 4: appreciate it, but yeah, at this point the draft, just

843
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:01,879
Speaker 4: give me one of those stud wide receivers instead. There's

844
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:04,399
Speaker 4: just there's less of a blow flowor I think.

845
00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:07,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm actually I think I'm a little more bullish

846
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:10,320
Speaker 3: on Bell than you guys. I think that the number

847
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:12,920
Speaker 3: one concern for me is that pace, that pace of play,

848
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:16,359
Speaker 3: because you kind of hit on it, Adam Gase. I mean,

849
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:18,880
Speaker 3: this guy will run at a snail like pace. Have

850
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:23,960
Speaker 3: the Jets projected for the fewest offensive plays per game

851
00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:27,120
Speaker 3: in the entire National Football League. I have him right

852
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:30,880
Speaker 3: about fifty eight offensive plays per game, which is extremely

853
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:34,239
Speaker 3: low and not something I tend to project often, so

854
00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:38,040
Speaker 3: that that is a concern. However, I think part of

855
00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:41,239
Speaker 3: the reason that they will run at a slow pace

856
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:43,279
Speaker 3: and be able to is because of the presence of

857
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:45,439
Speaker 3: a guy like Bell when you have a running back,

858
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:47,919
Speaker 3: and I think this is why the Dolphins used Frank

859
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:50,319
Speaker 3: Gore over Kenyan Drake a lot on early downs when

860
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:53,400
Speaker 3: you have a guy that can sustain and grind out yards.

861
00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:55,680
Speaker 3: And Bell's not a big play guy, so he's gotten

862
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:57,759
Speaker 3: you know, four or five, six, ten yards. He's not

863
00:37:57,800 --> 00:37:59,960
Speaker 3: breaking a bunch of the thirty forty fifty yarders. Think

864
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:02,400
Speaker 3: he's going to get a substantial workload on the ground

865
00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:05,640
Speaker 3: in those first half of games, regardless of the situation,

866
00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:07,560
Speaker 3: and then the second half we all know what he

867
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:10,000
Speaker 3: can do through the air, and I do think there

868
00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:13,160
Speaker 3: is some concern that Donald could be turned into the

869
00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:15,879
Speaker 3: checkdown artist. Twenty eighth in the league in deep ball

870
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:19,239
Speaker 3: accuracy last year according to Pro Football Focus, Quincy and

871
00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:23,319
Speaker 3: Nowon was effectiveness decreased drastically when running routes from the

872
00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:25,480
Speaker 3: outside last year. He's gonna have to do that all year,

873
00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:28,000
Speaker 3: and then you brought in, you know, you're brought in

874
00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:31,040
Speaker 3: Crowder to take up more targets in the slot. Robbie Anderson.

875
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:33,600
Speaker 3: I know Sean Sean likes him, is higher on him

876
00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:36,480
Speaker 3: than myself, But you know, Anderson was outside the top

877
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:39,200
Speaker 3: sixty receivers in PPR for the first like eleven weeks

878
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:42,439
Speaker 3: of last season. He's a guy running low percentage routes

879
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:44,920
Speaker 3: that if they're not there, I think there's gonna be

880
00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:47,680
Speaker 3: a lot of opportunities for Darnald to dump down and

881
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:50,120
Speaker 3: I think we we're going to see Gays kind of

882
00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:53,279
Speaker 3: build an offense centered around Bells. I think he's the

883
00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:57,240
Speaker 3: one investment that I feel comfortable making in the Jets, frankly,

884
00:38:57,280 --> 00:38:59,800
Speaker 3: because I'm not high on Anderson for the reasons I mentioned,

885
00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:02,880
Speaker 3: and I just really don't know about the upside for

886
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:06,200
Speaker 3: Crowder or a Nunwa and now Herndon with of course

887
00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:08,480
Speaker 3: the tight end second year entering the season with a

888
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:11,080
Speaker 3: lot of uh, you know, high hopes, but four game

889
00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:14,560
Speaker 3: suspension for him. So Bell is the guy. I'm feeling

890
00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:17,399
Speaker 3: pretty good about in the Jets and really the only guy.

891
00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:21,120
Speaker 3: Let's talk about Bell's replacement, because James Connor comes in

892
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:25,160
Speaker 3: year one in Pittsburgh essentially renders Bell expendable more or

893
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:28,439
Speaker 3: less huge season. Now, he's kind of in that same

894
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:30,400
Speaker 3: tier where if you're picking to the middle of the

895
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:31,960
Speaker 3: end of the first round, you're gonna have a chance

896
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:35,279
Speaker 3: to draft Connor. Sean, tell me why you're or why

897
00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:37,760
Speaker 3: not I should draft Connor over over like a receiver

898
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:39,960
Speaker 3: like Devonte Adams or DeAndre Hopkins.

899
00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:43,919
Speaker 1: Well, I'm not gonna recommend that, but if they're off

900
00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:46,239
Speaker 1: the board and Kelsey's off the board, I could make

901
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:48,839
Speaker 1: the case for taking James Connor because you know you're

902
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:50,400
Speaker 1: gonna be able to pair him with one of the

903
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:53,960
Speaker 1: other top receivers. I think he's He's probably the running

904
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:56,000
Speaker 1: back in the bottom half of the RB one tier

905
00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:59,960
Speaker 1: I have the least concern about. You know, he's a

906
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:03,200
Speaker 1: power back with receiving skills, so I'm not too worried

907
00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:05,759
Speaker 1: about Jalen Samuels and Benny Snell. I think there'll be

908
00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:09,239
Speaker 1: more change of pacebacks and you know, if Connor were

909
00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:11,080
Speaker 1: to ever miss time, I think they would be a

910
00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:14,520
Speaker 1: pretty even timeshare, but I think he's he's still gonna

911
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:16,960
Speaker 1: be the workhorse back we saw last year. You know,

912
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:18,960
Speaker 1: he's the guy I took in the last round of

913
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:22,120
Speaker 1: every draft last year. So it's it's important to remind people,

914
00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:25,440
Speaker 1: don't draft a kicker defense at the end of the draft.

915
00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:29,040
Speaker 1: Just get two more running backs, preferably you know, guys

916
00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:31,720
Speaker 1: that back up a running back who's in a holdout

917
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:35,080
Speaker 1: or prone to injury. Just take your chances on your

918
00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:38,239
Speaker 1: bench with running back. So it's a little disheartening that,

919
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:39,920
Speaker 1: you know, I have to spend a first round pick

920
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:41,320
Speaker 1: to get him this year, and I got him in

921
00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:43,520
Speaker 1: the last round last year. But it just goes to

922
00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:47,279
Speaker 1: show how vulorable running back is. You cannot just you know,

923
00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:50,600
Speaker 1: magically get a stud wide receiver one at the end

924
00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:52,719
Speaker 1: of the draft or pick them up in season, but

925
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:55,920
Speaker 1: you absolutely can at running back. So that's that's basically

926
00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:59,120
Speaker 1: my lesson on taking wide receivers early on. But I

927
00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:01,000
Speaker 1: still like Connor a lot this year. I don't think

928
00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:05,800
Speaker 1: there's many concerns here, and yeah, he's the safest bet

929
00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:08,439
Speaker 1: for the back end of the RB one tier Ian.

930
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:10,400
Speaker 3: At what point in dress are you taking Connor?

931
00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:13,279
Speaker 4: I think he's right there, then that RB one tier.

932
00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:15,480
Speaker 4: I wouldn't blame you if you had guys like Mixing

933
00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:18,160
Speaker 4: Chubb Cook ranks slightly above him, But I think you're

934
00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:20,719
Speaker 4: gonna be pretty okay with any of those guys, because, look,

935
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:23,400
Speaker 4: James Connor, we gotta give him some credit for just

936
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:25,960
Speaker 4: doing everything that you expect kind of elite running back

937
00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:27,600
Speaker 4: to do. I mean, he got hurt in the last

938
00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:30,240
Speaker 4: three weeks of last year, but in weeks one through thirteen,

939
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:32,320
Speaker 4: the only running backs that had broken at least fifty

940
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:35,480
Speaker 4: tackles were Connor, Saquon Barkley, and Kareem Hunt. I feel

941
00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:36,880
Speaker 4: like a lot of people don't kind of think of

942
00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:39,359
Speaker 4: Connor as being that dynamic of a back, but two

943
00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:41,239
Speaker 4: hundred and thirty pounds with some moves like him, and

944
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:43,040
Speaker 4: he's a tough guy to bring down. I don't think

945
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:46,000
Speaker 4: he's the same type of dynamic receiver as Le'Veon Bell.

946
00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:48,920
Speaker 4: I know his yards for targeting yards per reception are similar,

947
00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:51,160
Speaker 4: but you just don't see him doing the same type

948
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:53,360
Speaker 4: of things out of the slot. So I do worry

949
00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:56,919
Speaker 4: that maybe a more complete receiver like Samuels could steal

950
00:41:56,920 --> 00:41:58,160
Speaker 4: away some of his target share.

951
00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:00,319
Speaker 2: But I mean, I think we just got a sum.

952
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:02,480
Speaker 4: Pittsburgh is gonna feed their number one running back because

953
00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:04,319
Speaker 4: that's all we've seen over the last five years, whether

954
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:08,760
Speaker 4: it be Connor, Bell, Samuelsiga, Stephan Ridley like twenty touches

955
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:11,680
Speaker 4: when he was on his deathbed, pretty much so Pittsburgh

956
00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:13,680
Speaker 4: the number of running back gets the ball all the time.

957
00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:15,640
Speaker 2: I don't ee go to change this year. I'm a

958
00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:16,239
Speaker 2: little more worried.

959
00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:18,520
Speaker 4: I guess about the overall Pittsburgh offense and other people.

960
00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:21,160
Speaker 4: I think losing Ab, losing Bell, losing these kind of

961
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:24,919
Speaker 4: walking mismatches in the throughout the formation could impact their

962
00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:27,480
Speaker 4: offensive ceiling. But Connor's get fed the ball, and I

963
00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:29,759
Speaker 4: think he's good enough to get playing production out of it.

964
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:34,239
Speaker 3: I would definitely blame somebody if they took Chubb or

965
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:38,080
Speaker 3: or who mixing over Conn like I think Connor, to

966
00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:40,400
Speaker 3: me is is clearly a tier above those guys. I

967
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:42,319
Speaker 3: think you kind of hit on it with this is

968
00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:44,319
Speaker 3: what Pittsburgh does. They feed their number one guy. I mean,

969
00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:46,840
Speaker 3: talk about guys on their deathbed. The Anguel Williams is

970
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:49,600
Speaker 3: essentially the top back in fantasy filling in for Bell.

971
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:51,920
Speaker 3: You know, I think some of the concerns with with

972
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:55,720
Speaker 3: the Pittsburgh offense are unfounded. I mean, Antonio Brown average

973
00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:58,239
Speaker 3: about seven point eight yards per target last year. That's

974
00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:01,400
Speaker 3: essentially what an average wide receiver in league will average.

975
00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:04,000
Speaker 3: I think some of the touchdown potential that that Brown

976
00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:06,960
Speaker 3: brought with those with those league leading fifteen scores goes away,

977
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:09,520
Speaker 3: but those they could, they're gonna move the ball. I

978
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:11,920
Speaker 3: still think they still have a lot of guys all

979
00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:14,719
Speaker 3: over the field. They're still deep at receiver even with

980
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:17,760
Speaker 3: losing Brown. If anything, Brown not there to score fifteen

981
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:20,520
Speaker 3: touchdowns or an automatic double digit amount of touchdowns every year,

982
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:23,239
Speaker 3: that might just increase the probability that the running backs

983
00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:25,560
Speaker 3: get an extra couple of touchdowns. I agree. I don't

984
00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:28,560
Speaker 3: think Samuel Jalen Samuels is a threat to Connor's workload

985
00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:31,399
Speaker 3: because Samuel's more, you know, he kind of he played

986
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:33,320
Speaker 3: tight end before. He's kind of a chess piece. He

987
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:35,960
Speaker 3: can move around, but almost profiles like a glorified like

988
00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:39,279
Speaker 3: a Marcel Reese type of player, glorified h back who

989
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:42,279
Speaker 3: can play halfback than a true featured back. And I

990
00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:44,440
Speaker 3: think Snell is kind of like like the next Connor,

991
00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:47,160
Speaker 3: like maybe in a year now we're talking and Connor

992
00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:50,080
Speaker 3: goes down and then you're looking at Snell for that

993
00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:52,759
Speaker 3: same kind of workload that Connor got. But this year,

994
00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:54,920
Speaker 3: I think Connor's clearly in a tier on the on

995
00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:57,560
Speaker 3: the right side of that drop off, and I think

996
00:43:57,560 --> 00:43:59,960
Speaker 3: if anything, he's going a little bit underlooked. That wouldn't

997
00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:02,640
Speaker 3: especially in a non full PP, I wouldn't hesitate to

998
00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:05,719
Speaker 3: even take him before pretty much any receiver outside of

999
00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:08,759
Speaker 3: I guess Hopkins and and Adams, And even then, if

1000
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:10,239
Speaker 3: you really feel like you need a running back and

1001
00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:14,040
Speaker 3: it's a deeper league, I wouldn't. I wouldn't feel uncomfortable

1002
00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:19,040
Speaker 3: pulling the trigger. Let's talk about Joe Mixon, Sean, how

1003
00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:20,759
Speaker 3: are you feeling about mixing? You know, he's been a

1004
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:23,399
Speaker 3: guy who, you know, first year in the league didn't

1005
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:26,360
Speaker 3: quite get the workload we wanted. Last year featured, but

1006
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:29,319
Speaker 3: now the coaching staff overhauled. You did hear a report

1007
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:31,359
Speaker 3: at a camp that, hey, don't forget about this guy,

1008
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:34,319
Speaker 3: Giovanni Bernard, He's gonna be back in more of a

1009
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:38,400
Speaker 3: that that pass catcher role. So any concerns about mixing

1010
00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:41,560
Speaker 3: kind of being able to produce at the level of

1011
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:43,720
Speaker 3: guys like Connor and Todd Gurley.

1012
00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:47,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think there's some concern there. Definitely, not talent wise,

1013
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:50,200
Speaker 1: I think he's he's certainly one of the most talented backs.

1014
00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:55,080
Speaker 1: Just lost too offensive linemen, you know, rookie Joni Williams,

1015
00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:58,600
Speaker 1: the eleventh overall pick is on I R. Clint Bowling

1016
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:03,080
Speaker 1: just retire, so you know, the offensive line could be shaky.

1017
00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:06,960
Speaker 1: And yeah, the GEO Bernard being heavily involved again this

1018
00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:09,759
Speaker 1: year is sort of a concern, especially a team like

1019
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:12,319
Speaker 1: the Bengals, who are projected to be more of a

1020
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:14,160
Speaker 1: five to six win team, so they're going to have

1021
00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:17,879
Speaker 1: more negative game scripts that's going to favor Bernard unfortunately.

1022
00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:21,239
Speaker 1: So he just has a little more question marks. I'm

1023
00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:23,880
Speaker 1: kind of with Ian that I think Chubb is, you know,

1024
00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:26,560
Speaker 1: he's closer to the mid range RB one tier and

1025
00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:29,480
Speaker 1: he sort of falls in this you know, low end

1026
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:32,320
Speaker 1: RB one and just you know where Joe Mixon goes.

1027
00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:35,520
Speaker 1: Typically I like him if he falls later in round two,

1028
00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:39,080
Speaker 1: but that's you already have a setback when you have

1029
00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:41,560
Speaker 1: those draft picks. So he's a guy that even if

1030
00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:43,920
Speaker 1: he falls towards round two, I'm still taking a top receiver,

1031
00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:46,520
Speaker 1: but like Mixon as a running back, but just the

1032
00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:50,560
Speaker 1: situation isn't ideal. And you know, they drafted Trevian Williams

1033
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:53,719
Speaker 1: and Rodney Anderson. Roddy Anderson should start the year on

1034
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:55,480
Speaker 1: the pups, so not worried about him. But it was

1035
00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:59,160
Speaker 1: interesting that they took two you know, highly touted backs

1036
00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:02,600
Speaker 1: like that, so, you know, just a crowded backfield just

1037
00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:04,040
Speaker 1: even more of a concern for mixing.

1038
00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:06,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think a lot of it with with the

1039
00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:08,640
Speaker 3: two pre paired Uh you know day three picks at

1040
00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:11,000
Speaker 3: the position was you know, they did lose Mark Wall

1041
00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:12,879
Speaker 3: and then you know they do need some depths there.

1042
00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:14,680
Speaker 3: Running back is an important part of their offense. I mean,

1043
00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:16,440
Speaker 3: let's be serious. A j Green goes down every year,

1044
00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:19,279
Speaker 3: Tyler Reifort goes down. But they also took essentially which

1045
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:21,160
Speaker 3: amounts to a blocking tight end in round two. So

1046
00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:24,120
Speaker 3: this team seems like they're just building depth. I mean,

1047
00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:26,480
Speaker 3: maybe it's just the dumpster fire of the league, and

1048
00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:29,080
Speaker 3: I mean they don't not a lot of it necessarily

1049
00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:30,879
Speaker 3: sounds like the sharpest things for them to be doing.

1050
00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:33,280
Speaker 3: So they are on you know, just just as jumps

1051
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:36,080
Speaker 3: the fire alert Ian you know, I know you are

1052
00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:37,959
Speaker 3: high on Chubb, so I guess talk to me about

1053
00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:41,840
Speaker 3: Chubb versus Mixing in that kind of end of the

1054
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:44,640
Speaker 3: uh that this RB onez here and Dalvin Cook if

1055
00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:45,719
Speaker 3: you have any thoughts on him as well.

1056
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:48,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, they're right there together. So the thing with mixing,

1057
00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:52,080
Speaker 4: I mean we talk about Javanni Bernard being involved again.

1058
00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:56,160
Speaker 4: I mean all right, outside of David Johnson, Zeke Saquon

1059
00:46:56,200 --> 00:46:58,680
Speaker 4: and McCaffrey, every running back in the league pretty much

1060
00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:01,319
Speaker 4: plays fear and eighty percent of all defensive snaps. So

1061
00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:04,040
Speaker 4: even though jiy Vonney is going to be involved again,

1062
00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:06,240
Speaker 4: I mean, Mixic can still have one of the top,

1063
00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:09,120
Speaker 4: you know, six to eight biggest workloads in the league.

1064
00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:10,640
Speaker 2: And that's pretty much what we saw last year. He

1065
00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:12,840
Speaker 2: played at least sixty percent of the Bengal snaps in

1066
00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:15,200
Speaker 2: all but one game. So yeah, you know, if it

1067
00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:15,480
Speaker 2: is a.

1068
00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:18,040
Speaker 4: Blowout, maybe maybe Gio would be out there a little

1069
00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:19,880
Speaker 4: bit more again some targets. But I don't think we

1070
00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:23,319
Speaker 4: should underestimate the chances that Mixon really takes a big

1071
00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:24,520
Speaker 4: step forward as a receiver.

1072
00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:25,880
Speaker 2: He's got the ability to do it.

1073
00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:28,560
Speaker 4: We saw to Oklahoma, We've seen flashes over these two years,

1074
00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:31,279
Speaker 4: but it never quite committed to him in that way.

1075
00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:33,520
Speaker 4: And look, the new head coach, Zach Taylor, spent the

1076
00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:35,560
Speaker 4: last two years in Los Angeles. I think he saw

1077
00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:37,960
Speaker 4: first hand, you know what that can do to a player.

1078
00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:40,720
Speaker 4: Todd Gurley only had eighty four targets in twenty fifteen

1079
00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:43,279
Speaker 4: to twenty sixteen. He had one hundred and sixty eight

1080
00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:46,240
Speaker 4: under Taylor McVeigh the next two seasons. You know, Mixon

1081
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:48,120
Speaker 4: only had eighty nine to the last two seasons. So

1082
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:51,800
Speaker 4: Mixing has that ability to take a big step forward

1083
00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:55,120
Speaker 4: in the receiving game. And last year, once he returned

1084
00:47:55,120 --> 00:47:57,120
Speaker 4: from injury in Week five and played from Week five

1085
00:47:57,160 --> 00:47:59,640
Speaker 4: to Week seventeen, he was a PPR RB six. I

1086
00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:02,560
Speaker 4: mean that was playing half the year with the Bengals

1087
00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:05,399
Speaker 4: offense that was you know, pretty much h the Land

1088
00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:07,640
Speaker 4: of the Living Dead because half their team was hurt.

1089
00:48:07,719 --> 00:48:11,239
Speaker 4: So I do think he has a kind of underrated

1090
00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:13,600
Speaker 4: floor in his ceiling. Like Shawn said, is one of

1091
00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:15,279
Speaker 4: the most talented running backs in the league, so he

1092
00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:18,640
Speaker 4: can do big things there. At the same time, Nick Chubb,

1093
00:48:18,680 --> 00:48:21,279
Speaker 4: I mean, if you know, maybe the Browns won't reach

1094
00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:23,640
Speaker 4: these Super Bowl expectations everyone's talking about, but I just

1095
00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:25,400
Speaker 4: have such a hard time believe they're not, at the

1096
00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:27,320
Speaker 4: very least gonna have a very good offense.

1097
00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:29,000
Speaker 2: And Trubb's gonna be the RB one there.

1098
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:30,560
Speaker 4: I mean, he's one of the freakiest athletes in the

1099
00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:34,120
Speaker 4: entire league, regardless of positions. We saw him work as

1100
00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:37,760
Speaker 4: the PPR RB eight ones. Carlos High was traded last season. Obviously,

1101
00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:40,759
Speaker 4: Kareem Hunt coming back isn't gonna be great, but he's

1102
00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:43,440
Speaker 4: still guaranteed zero dollars. I think Kareem Hunt's is going

1103
00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:45,640
Speaker 4: to take the Duke Johnson role because I don't see

1104
00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:48,040
Speaker 4: a scenario where if Chub is bawling out the first

1105
00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:49,680
Speaker 4: half the season, they're just going to take him off

1106
00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:51,839
Speaker 4: the field for a guy that you know hasn't even

1107
00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:53,160
Speaker 4: taken a snap for them yet.

1108
00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:56,600
Speaker 2: So uh. And then lastly, Dovin Cook big thing here, guys.

1109
00:48:56,719 --> 00:48:59,560
Speaker 4: Gary Kubiak is now the assistant head coach in Minnesota

1110
00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:03,000
Speaker 4: and he's offensive advisor. His RB one averages two hundred

1111
00:49:03,040 --> 00:49:05,359
Speaker 4: and ninety one touches per year from nineteen ninety five

1112
00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:06,440
Speaker 4: twenty sixteen.

1113
00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:07,920
Speaker 2: How to top twelve.

1114
00:49:07,719 --> 00:49:10,560
Speaker 4: RB and PPR points per game and fourteen of those seasons,

1115
00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:13,959
Speaker 4: So Gary Kuback knows how to create fantasy football RB one's,

1116
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:16,120
Speaker 4: and Dalvin Cook when he's been on the field, has

1117
00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:19,040
Speaker 4: been anyone's idea of an RB one. So you know,

1118
00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:21,120
Speaker 4: any of those guys, I'm happy to have, honestly.

1119
00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:24,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, And you know, going back to Chubb real quick,

1120
00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:26,800
Speaker 3: I do it because I think there is some concern that, hey,

1121
00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:30,359
Speaker 3: Kareem Hunt when he comes back, he might be the RB.

1122
00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:32,520
Speaker 3: I'm actually Kareem Hunt going in the top thirty six

1123
00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:34,600
Speaker 3: running backs, which is kind of crazy considering he's missing

1124
00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:39,040
Speaker 3: alf the season. But yeah, I think Chubb is that

1125
00:49:39,239 --> 00:49:42,600
Speaker 3: RB one regardless. There I don't think there's any debate

1126
00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:44,839
Speaker 3: about that. And this is one of those teams. If

1127
00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:46,239
Speaker 3: they're as good as we think they're going to be.

1128
00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:49,000
Speaker 3: With Baker Mayfield taking another step forward in year two,

1129
00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:50,840
Speaker 3: and of course you Jackson being on, they had to

1130
00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:53,319
Speaker 3: have pieces on defense as well. They're gonna be able

1131
00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:55,720
Speaker 3: to support multiple running backs even if Chubb maybe loses

1132
00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:58,160
Speaker 3: a carry or two. But I see him getting four

1133
00:49:58,239 --> 00:50:01,879
Speaker 3: touches a quarter at the minimum, So that's sixteen a game.

1134
00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:05,000
Speaker 3: He actually jumps up to my RB seven in standard

1135
00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:08,640
Speaker 3: league when touchdowns factor in a bit more. Joe Mixon

1136
00:50:09,080 --> 00:50:12,080
Speaker 3: is my RB eight. Cook I'm a little lower on,

1137
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:14,760
Speaker 3: So Sean, I want to get your thoughts on Dalvin

1138
00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:17,759
Speaker 3: Cook because I agree with me and I think there's

1139
00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:22,080
Speaker 3: no doubt that Kubiak wants to give Cook a heavy load.

1140
00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:23,719
Speaker 3: But I think they've always wanted to give Cook a

1141
00:50:23,719 --> 00:50:25,960
Speaker 3: heavy I mean, they fired their OC four for not

1142
00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:29,040
Speaker 3: running enough last year? Can Cook handle it?

1143
00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:31,799
Speaker 1: Like you said, They've fired John d. Flippo and then

1144
00:50:32,360 --> 00:50:34,719
Speaker 1: Cook just went off in the final three weeks. So

1145
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:37,399
Speaker 1: I mean, if Cook is healthy, absolutely I want him.

1146
00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:39,520
Speaker 1: We just don't know if you can stay healthy. So

1147
00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:43,000
Speaker 1: I don't like spending high draft capital at such a

1148
00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:45,879
Speaker 1: vital position, so I usually don't take on that risk.

1149
00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:48,799
Speaker 1: But yeah, absolutely, if Cook is healthy, he's probably a

1150
00:50:48,840 --> 00:50:50,799
Speaker 1: lot to be RB one. And you know, it kind

1151
00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:53,839
Speaker 1: of goes with Nick Chubb where, you know, I think

1152
00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:55,960
Speaker 1: Nick Chubb's going to have a great start to the season.

1153
00:50:56,239 --> 00:50:59,960
Speaker 1: You could be a bit concern about Hunt returning, especially

1154
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:02,960
Speaker 1: it's gonna be during the fantasy playoffs. If either one

1155
00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:06,120
Speaker 1: of these players gets off to a hot start, try

1156
00:51:06,120 --> 00:51:08,839
Speaker 1: to trade him, especially you know, if Chubb gets off

1157
00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:10,439
Speaker 1: to hot start. I think he could be a top

1158
00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:13,279
Speaker 1: five back, you know, by week six, try to flip

1159
00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:15,279
Speaker 1: him for if any one of the top five backs

1160
00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:18,040
Speaker 1: is struggling or something, you might be able to flip

1161
00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:19,879
Speaker 1: them for a top five back and then you don't

1162
00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:21,879
Speaker 1: have to worry about cream Hunt's return, which I think,

1163
00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:24,520
Speaker 1: you know, he could lower his value just a little

1164
00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:27,080
Speaker 1: bit during the most important time the fantasy playoffs. So

1165
00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:29,680
Speaker 1: that's that's just one strategy you can think of if

1166
00:51:29,719 --> 00:51:33,120
Speaker 1: the cream Hunt returns a concern to you at all,

1167
00:51:34,040 --> 00:51:35,640
Speaker 1: is you know, just trying to flip these guys. Will

1168
00:51:35,640 --> 00:51:37,520
Speaker 1: their stocks super high early in the season.

1169
00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:39,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I mean I think the fame could be said,

1170
00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:42,399
Speaker 3: probably even more so for Dalvin Cook, because if there's

1171
00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:44,400
Speaker 3: any time where he's gonna go off, it's gonna be

1172
00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:46,719
Speaker 3: the early part of the season, and they probably and

1173
00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:48,560
Speaker 3: if he gets hurt, it's probably gonna because they did

1174
00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:49,000
Speaker 3: try to.

1175
00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:52,000
Speaker 1: Give him exactly exactly what touches a game.

1176
00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:54,239
Speaker 3: Because that's something similar I think was his first his

1177
00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:55,960
Speaker 3: rookie year. He was getting like, I think three of

1178
00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:58,880
Speaker 3: those four games he was getting over well like twenty

1179
00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:02,839
Speaker 3: five touches and then you know, injures himself, does run

1180
00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:05,560
Speaker 3: a little bit high, you know, pad level wise will

1181
00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:08,279
Speaker 3: expose him to some injuries. So you know I have him.

1182
00:52:08,640 --> 00:52:10,400
Speaker 3: He's one of those guys where, yeah, he's not getting

1183
00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:12,480
Speaker 3: the full you know, baseline games played for me a

1184
00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:15,000
Speaker 3: running back usually about fourteen and a half to fifteen.

1185
00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:17,400
Speaker 3: I have him at fourteen games, still have him for

1186
00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:19,160
Speaker 3: two hundred and forty two touches, so you can kind

1187
00:52:19,160 --> 00:52:21,200
Speaker 3: of do the math and see that I have him

1188
00:52:21,239 --> 00:52:23,480
Speaker 3: getting a pretty substantial touch there when he's in there.

1189
00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:26,040
Speaker 3: But fourteen is on the low end of games played

1190
00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:29,400
Speaker 3: as far as it goes with my running back projections.

1191
00:52:29,560 --> 00:52:32,360
Speaker 3: This was really u you know, informative convo. I just

1192
00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:33,960
Speaker 3: wanted to kind of, you know, love talking to you

1193
00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:36,960
Speaker 3: guys about this before we get out of here. Last question,

1194
00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:41,160
Speaker 3: just we talked about the top twelve and just give

1195
00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:43,160
Speaker 3: me one guy and I know we talked about some

1196
00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:45,520
Speaker 3: sleepers ready, but one guy drafted outside of the top

1197
00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:47,960
Speaker 3: twelve that you think has the best chance to finish

1198
00:52:48,200 --> 00:52:50,600
Speaker 3: inside the top twelve, and let's do it like kind

1199
00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:53,320
Speaker 3: of like not necessarily like just a straight up handcuff,

1200
00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:55,560
Speaker 3: like a Chase Edmonds who with DJ goes down obviously,

1201
00:52:55,560 --> 00:52:57,520
Speaker 3: but a guy that is being drafted kind of you

1202
00:52:57,560 --> 00:52:59,640
Speaker 3: know that the next couple of tears twenty four to

1203
00:52:59,680 --> 00:53:04,200
Speaker 3: thirty that has the best shot at finishing as as

1204
00:53:04,239 --> 00:53:04,960
Speaker 3: a top twelve guy.

1205
00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:08,560
Speaker 1: Well, I took your question pretty literally, So I had

1206
00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:12,400
Speaker 1: my odds on favorite for that being Derrick Henry, just

1207
00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:16,719
Speaker 1: because that that stat, you know, top twelve finish implies.

1208
00:53:16,760 --> 00:53:20,040
Speaker 1: It usually implies they played a full season. And I've

1209
00:53:20,080 --> 00:53:22,560
Speaker 1: been saying at NonStop that Derrick Henry is the most

1210
00:53:22,600 --> 00:53:26,080
Speaker 1: likely back to actually play all sixteen games, and I

1211
00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:27,600
Speaker 1: think I may have jinks him because he's been in

1212
00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:29,879
Speaker 1: a walking boot and he's out for like the next

1213
00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:31,759
Speaker 1: two weeks of course, So you know, I have so

1214
00:53:31,880 --> 00:53:34,120
Speaker 1: many shares of Henry that I'm retiring that right now.

1215
00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:35,520
Speaker 1: So I'm going to go if the other guy have

1216
00:53:35,560 --> 00:53:38,719
Speaker 1: a ten of shares of is Carrie on Johnson. I

1217
00:53:38,760 --> 00:53:42,040
Speaker 1: was sort of anticipating their ritic getting cut, So I

1218
00:53:42,040 --> 00:53:45,640
Speaker 1: think right now, you know he's he has massive upside

1219
00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:48,640
Speaker 1: in the you know, past catching department, So I'm assuming

1220
00:53:48,640 --> 00:53:51,400
Speaker 1: we're talking half PPR here. I think he has the

1221
00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:54,000
Speaker 1: potential if he says healthy to finish in the top

1222
00:53:54,040 --> 00:53:56,920
Speaker 1: twelve pretty easily ian, how about.

1223
00:53:56,680 --> 00:54:01,120
Speaker 4: You, Josh Jacobs. Look when they drafting them, their GM

1224
00:54:01,160 --> 00:54:03,839
Speaker 4: Michael Maynock even said this is a three down back

1225
00:54:03,880 --> 00:54:06,560
Speaker 4: and even cited his pass protection. I mean, only with

1226
00:54:06,600 --> 00:54:09,439
Speaker 4: Sean Penny and Christian McCaffrey among first round running backs

1227
00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:12,160
Speaker 4: since twenty fourteen have had fewer than two hundred touches

1228
00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:14,320
Speaker 4: in the season. You know, a little bit different situations

1229
00:54:14,320 --> 00:54:16,400
Speaker 4: for them with injuries and different backs on the roster.

1230
00:54:16,719 --> 00:54:19,200
Speaker 4: Jacobs has a three down ability. Chris, like you said earlier,

1231
00:54:19,480 --> 00:54:22,120
Speaker 4: was hardly a workhorse at Alabama, so I mean he

1232
00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:24,120
Speaker 4: can afford to have, you know, a ton of touches

1233
00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:25,200
Speaker 4: for as long as he's going to be in a

1234
00:54:25,280 --> 00:54:26,000
Speaker 4: Raider uniform.

1235
00:54:26,239 --> 00:54:27,399
Speaker 2: And yeah, I mean, the one thing we've.

1236
00:54:27,320 --> 00:54:29,359
Speaker 4: Seen over the years is draft round is really highly

1237
00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:31,480
Speaker 4: correlated with our Rooki year success at the running back

1238
00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:34,719
Speaker 4: position specifically, So maybe it doesn't happen right away. I'm

1239
00:54:34,760 --> 00:54:37,160
Speaker 4: curious to see how involved Jalen Chhard is. Kind of

1240
00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:39,360
Speaker 4: like with Detroit, if Rashard wasn't there, it'd be a

1241
00:54:39,400 --> 00:54:41,719
Speaker 4: whole lot easier for me to project Jacobs like it

1242
00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:44,160
Speaker 4: is now with Johnson and no Riddick, but I think

1243
00:54:44,200 --> 00:54:45,279
Speaker 4: at the end of the day, you don't use a

1244
00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:47,600
Speaker 4: first round to pick out a running back unless you

1245
00:54:47,640 --> 00:54:49,040
Speaker 4: plan on giving him a future workload.

1246
00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:52,240
Speaker 3: Absolutely, I'm with you there on Jacobs. I think Jacob's

1247
00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:53,799
Speaker 3: and just a lot of those guys in that top

1248
00:54:53,840 --> 00:54:56,840
Speaker 3: twenty have a really good you know, the Freeman's, the

1249
00:54:56,880 --> 00:54:59,360
Speaker 3: Max have a really good chance at kind of cracking

1250
00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:01,839
Speaker 3: that top twelve probably just comes down to touchdown. Luck

1251
00:55:02,360 --> 00:55:05,240
Speaker 3: for me, since you already stole my thunder with Jacobs,

1252
00:55:05,239 --> 00:55:07,440
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go a little bit more outside because and

1253
00:55:07,520 --> 00:55:09,680
Speaker 3: this might be a surprise to people, especially when you're

1254
00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:13,399
Speaker 3: talking PPR. But Chris Carson, I think you know a lot.

1255
00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:15,080
Speaker 3: There's a lot of love for a shot Penny, and

1256
00:55:15,080 --> 00:55:17,920
Speaker 3: I don't think that changes anything with Carson. This is

1257
00:55:17,920 --> 00:55:19,960
Speaker 3: a guy who you know from the third you know,

1258
00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:22,000
Speaker 3: the first couple weeks of the season, he got only

1259
00:55:22,440 --> 00:55:25,400
Speaker 3: a little over a half dozen touches guarding in week three.

1260
00:55:25,480 --> 00:55:28,120
Speaker 3: This was a guy that was getting seventeen plus touches

1261
00:55:28,200 --> 00:55:31,359
Speaker 3: every single week essentially. And now you have Mike Davis gone.

1262
00:55:31,400 --> 00:55:34,279
Speaker 3: And let's remember Sean Penny caught exactly one pass on

1263
00:55:34,320 --> 00:55:37,360
Speaker 3: third and fourth down last year. So Carson better pass

1264
00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:41,399
Speaker 3: blocker than Penny, you know, more trusted in that passing game.

1265
00:55:41,640 --> 00:55:45,200
Speaker 3: He you know, finishes the ppr RB half ppr RB

1266
00:55:45,320 --> 00:55:50,360
Speaker 3: fourteen despite missing two games and only catching twenty passes

1267
00:55:50,400 --> 00:55:52,759
Speaker 3: all year. So I think he has some pass catching

1268
00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:54,680
Speaker 3: upside where even if he adds you know, ten to

1269
00:55:54,760 --> 00:55:56,920
Speaker 3: fifteen catches to that maybe won a game to where

1270
00:55:56,960 --> 00:55:58,879
Speaker 3: he's catching now to a game instead of won a game.

1271
00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:01,279
Speaker 3: You know, this guy has tremendu upside because Seattle still

1272
00:56:01,320 --> 00:56:04,160
Speaker 3: needs to run the football to keep that pressure off

1273
00:56:04,160 --> 00:56:06,360
Speaker 3: their defense number one, which has lost a lot of

1274
00:56:06,360 --> 00:56:08,839
Speaker 3: talent over the years, and off their pass offense, which

1275
00:56:08,880 --> 00:56:11,520
Speaker 3: is in transition, still a great quarterback in Russell Wilson,

1276
00:56:11,560 --> 00:56:14,359
Speaker 3: but working in some new guys like DK Metcalf at

1277
00:56:14,360 --> 00:56:16,600
Speaker 3: receiver to replace you know, Doug Balwin has moved on,

1278
00:56:16,680 --> 00:56:20,160
Speaker 3: Trent Richardson, excuse me, Paul Richardson, and Jimmy Graham all gone.

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Speaker 3: So I think Carson has tremendous upside. He's going to

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Speaker 3: be a horse kind of like the poor Man's Henry

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Speaker 3: where you could look up in a given week and

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Speaker 3: Carson could have twenty five carries just because they need

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Speaker 3: to ride him. So that's a guy. I think it

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Speaker 3: easily cracked the top twelve. Thanks a lot, guys, This

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Speaker 3: was another great Action Network podcast for you guys out there. Again,

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Speaker 3: We'll be doing a whole nother podcast on the running

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Speaker 3: backs outside the Top twelve, so stay tuned for that.

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Speaker 3: After this one shows up in your podcast app, Sean,

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Speaker 3: tell him where people can find you on Twitter and

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Speaker 3: anything else that you might be working on that you

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Speaker 3: wanted to check out.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you can find me at the Underscore Oddsmaker on Twitter.

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Speaker 1: And I'm actually doing my tiers for Redraft League, so

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Speaker 1: you know I'm going to be rolling out my QB

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Speaker 1: running back, wide receiver, tight end, and then my kicker

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Speaker 1: defense tiers. Right, I tell you don't draft them, so

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Speaker 1: look for those coming out next week.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and Ian, how about you let them know where

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Speaker 3: they can.

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Speaker 4: Find you on Twitter at iHeart It's I H A

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Speaker 4: R T I t Z and should be up by

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Speaker 4: end of Tuesday early Wednesday.

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Speaker 2: Hall of Fame game breakdown everyone. We got DFS analysis and.

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Speaker 4: Some betting tips as well, so make sure you check

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Speaker 4: that out before the Broncos take on the Falcons.

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Speaker 3: Yes, looking forward, so all of that I am Chris Raybond.

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Speaker 3: You can find me on Twitter at Chris Raybond r

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Speaker 3: A y b O N. I am working on a

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Speaker 3: preseason the FS Tips article to kind of more general

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Speaker 3: to just take you through the entire preseason. Also working

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Speaker 3: on I know I've got a lot of questions about this,

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Speaker 3: the three key offensive coordinator tendencies for every team in

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Speaker 3: the league, so be on the lookout for that as well.

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Speaker 3: And of course on Serious Radio penduoever and Wednesday through

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Speaker 3: Friday morning taking all of your fantasy football questions and

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Speaker 3: talking fantasy all hour, so check that out. This has

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Speaker 3: been another edition of the Action Network Podcast. Until next time,

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Speaker 3: take care,