1 00:00:06,680 --> 00:00:09,119 Speaker 1: Years ago, I decided to separate church and state, and 2 00:00:09,360 --> 00:00:11,040 Speaker 1: I got rid of our bed and I've got two 3 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 1: platform beds and two box springs and two mattresses and 4 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:17,200 Speaker 1: monsters because I'm just such an animal. 5 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:17,880 Speaker 2: It's terrible. 6 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:23,400 Speaker 3: Wow. Welcome to episode five point thirty four with Dirks Bentley. 7 00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:26,320 Speaker 3: He now has twenty two total number one songs. He's 8 00:00:26,360 --> 00:00:29,720 Speaker 3: got a new album called Broken Branches. Just wrapped up 9 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:33,400 Speaker 3: the Broken Branches tour with Zach Topp. And I've known 10 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 3: Dirks for a long time. He's a massive star. And 11 00:00:36,159 --> 00:00:39,159 Speaker 3: I felt like this was one of the most fun 12 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:41,000 Speaker 3: hours I've done in a long time because it felt 13 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:45,000 Speaker 3: pretty easy because I didn't have to like stay completely 14 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:48,240 Speaker 3: focused because he would just like push back on things 15 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:49,319 Speaker 3: or challenge me on things, and. 16 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 2: So I like that. 17 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:54,040 Speaker 3: But Big Dirk's guy. Obviously. Fun facts about Dirks. He 18 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 3: worked at the Nashville Network now Spike TV. Is it 19 00:00:57,080 --> 00:00:59,160 Speaker 3: even Spike TV anymore? I think that's dead now you 20 00:00:59,320 --> 00:00:59,760 Speaker 3: might have changed. 21 00:00:59,840 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. 22 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:04,119 Speaker 3: After graduating college, he worked at TNN. He researched country 23 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 3: music performances. He became the youngest member of the Grand 24 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:09,320 Speaker 3: Ole Opry at age twenty nine at the time. I 25 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 3: think somebody has beaten him since. But at the time 26 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:13,960 Speaker 3: he was twenty nine. He went in he was the youngest. 27 00:01:14,480 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 3: His favorite sports hockey. His kid also plays travel hockey, which. 28 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:18,279 Speaker 2: We talk about. 29 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 3: And he was an intern at the Country Music Association, 30 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:25,080 Speaker 3: So moved to Nashville. Did it went up, all that, 31 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:27,959 Speaker 3: had all the small jobs, became a big country star. 32 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:30,880 Speaker 3: Here he is now episode five thirty four. Following him 33 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:34,119 Speaker 3: on Instagram at Dirk Spinley. Here is my friend, Dirk Spentley. 34 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 3: Derek's good to see you, buddy. We should do a 35 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:38,400 Speaker 3: little small talk before you get started. 36 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:40,759 Speaker 2: Well, it's good to see you. How's how's everything on? 37 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 2: It's good, I'm great. Tours great. Good to be home too. 38 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 1: Both places are equally awesome. But no, it's good to 39 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 1: see you because usually coming in and do that show 40 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 1: and it's quick and it's it's always a little weird, 41 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 1: and you guys are all business and so this is 42 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 1: kind of nice to come in and. 43 00:01:56,560 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 2: Hang it's not all business. Well it's not business, yeah, 44 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:01,440 Speaker 2: but you're right, there's a lot. It's a machine. It's 45 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 2: a machine, and it's always one of my most fun 46 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:06,639 Speaker 2: uh and it really is. Interviews Dukes. I like everyone. 47 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 1: I listened to the show, and I like everybody, you know, 48 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:09,840 Speaker 1: you know, you get to know every one's character and 49 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 1: their their whole thing. So it's fun to be actually 50 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 1: on the set. But then it is kind of like, oh, 51 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:16,560 Speaker 1: this is like there's we're moving through stuff pretty quickly, 52 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 1: it is. And I don't do a whole lot of 53 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 1: podcasts because I don't I just, uh, you know, I 54 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:25,399 Speaker 1: just don't really think I have anything that's that really 55 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:27,400 Speaker 1: interesting to say after overall, you know, I think it's 56 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:29,960 Speaker 1: just kind of and I changed positions so often every 57 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 1: few years that anything I'm going to say probably I 58 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 1: won't believe it in like two or three years. But 59 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 1: it's interesting perspective. I do, like, I really do like 60 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 1: your podcast, and I like you. You're interesting dude. 61 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 2: Thanks. I like the small talk part of the show. 62 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:46,360 Speaker 2: It's about that weather. It's hot out there, isn't it. 63 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:48,120 Speaker 2: It's uh, it's hot. It sucks. 64 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, it's I feel that, And for a 65 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:53,720 Speaker 3: long time I was confused about if I which, by 66 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:55,680 Speaker 3: the way, the best parts of this goes on the. 67 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:58,079 Speaker 2: Radio show too, so no pressure. Yeah, oh gosh. Yeah. 68 00:02:58,080 --> 00:02:59,400 Speaker 3: So it's like you're doing three things at once. You 69 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 3: do the radio show the county like that. I do 70 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:01,680 Speaker 3: like the way you do it. 71 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:03,640 Speaker 2: That's good. I try to multitask as well, so that's 72 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:04,240 Speaker 2: that's great. 73 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:08,400 Speaker 3: I feel I am getting older, and I consider that 74 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 3: maybe it was just me getting older that feels like 75 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:11,360 Speaker 3: it's getting hotter. 76 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 2: But I really think it's getting hotter. Its nothing. 77 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:16,880 Speaker 3: He would never keep me from doing things now, he 78 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:18,280 Speaker 3: just started to keep me from doing things. 79 00:03:18,320 --> 00:03:19,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, in the summer here, I always say in Nashville, 80 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:22,839 Speaker 1: it's unusable between like nine am and six pm, it's 81 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 1: just unusable. 82 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:25,240 Speaker 2: But after six pm it's great. 83 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:27,120 Speaker 3: You know, if you can wait around till then it 84 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:30,800 Speaker 3: gets darker earlier because we're so far east on the 85 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:31,919 Speaker 3: in the time zone. 86 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 2: So it's way darker here than it is. Yeah. My 87 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 2: family's from Oklahoma and we live in the right right 88 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 2: the same time. It's like ten pm. 89 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:41,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, well, just waiting to move the clocks ahead, 90 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 1: and it's like four thirty and it's dark. 91 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 2: But yeah, that sus I don't know. 92 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 1: It's I used to kind of try to get out 93 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:49,280 Speaker 1: of Tennessee as much as possible. I just love Colorado 94 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 1: and I love being out out West and kind of 95 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 1: searching for climates in the summer. Now, I'm just like, man, 96 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 1: it's it's hot, but it's home, and it's just you know, 97 00:03:57,800 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 1: you kind of got to get up early new stuff 98 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 1: and then yeah, the middle of DA you find different 99 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:01,840 Speaker 1: stuff to do, and if you're lucky enough to have 100 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:03,960 Speaker 1: a pool, you can gotta you know, get in there 101 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 1: to go find some relief. But it's it's gonna be. 102 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:10,080 Speaker 1: I know, I don't like the cold either here, and 103 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:11,680 Speaker 1: it's it's getting the head that way pretty soon. 104 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 2: So same, I don't like the cold either. You only 105 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 2: get to complain about one, the hot of the No. 106 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:16,480 Speaker 2: I can play with everything. It's kind of it's kind 107 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:17,200 Speaker 2: of how I make my money. 108 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 1: You're a true musician, you get, Yeah, you gotta complain 109 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:21,240 Speaker 1: about everything, just like a content. 110 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:23,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, playing as content. Let's see what else small talk? 111 00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:25,160 Speaker 2: Do we have to talk about how the kids? Kids 112 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 2: are good? Yeah, they're all certain. Back in school. 113 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:30,360 Speaker 1: My son does hockey before school, so we were up 114 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:32,039 Speaker 1: at five point thirty doing that whole thing we do 115 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:34,200 Speaker 1: this time of year. So I always in the touring 116 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 1: around now because now I take on a different tour 117 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:38,479 Speaker 1: with him, which is the travel hockey. 118 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:40,160 Speaker 2: Tour, which is uh travel man. 119 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's crazy, especially when it's a hockey in this 120 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:45,039 Speaker 1: part of the town, part of the country because you 121 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:46,039 Speaker 1: have to travel. 122 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:46,040 Speaker 2: To do it. 123 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 1: There's not like a local point of their teams around, 124 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:50,160 Speaker 1: so uh but yeah, everyone's doing good. 125 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 2: The girls. My daughter, the middle daughter, is huge in 126 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 2: the theater. 127 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:55,040 Speaker 1: She did a bunch of stuff in Oklahoma City University 128 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:56,800 Speaker 1: this summer, did like a summer intensive there for a 129 00:04:56,800 --> 00:04:58,919 Speaker 1: few weeks doing a les miz And then my oldest 130 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 1: daughter is a looking at colleges and stuff, and she's 131 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:04,960 Speaker 1: my national anthem singer. She does it like all over 132 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:07,920 Speaker 1: town for different stuff, which is pretty fun. 133 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:08,920 Speaker 2: Did you want to pursue that? 134 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:12,480 Speaker 1: She's i mean, really great singer, but she's just kind 135 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:16,040 Speaker 1: of regular teenager stuff, you know, just likes doing regular 136 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:17,919 Speaker 1: which I love. It's like you don't have to have 137 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:21,080 Speaker 1: some sort of crazy passion when you're sixteen years old, 138 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 1: you know. But I feel like this culture all of 139 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:24,279 Speaker 1: a sudden, it's like, hey, what are you doing? What's 140 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:26,480 Speaker 1: your you know, so and so is doing this they 141 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:29,279 Speaker 1: want to do that. I didn't really I've fell in 142 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 1: love with country music a young age, with my dad, 143 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 1: But I really didn't know what I want to do 144 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 1: with it until I was seventeen when I heard a 145 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:34,680 Speaker 1: Hank Junior song. 146 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:38,279 Speaker 3: But so one song, one song, my buddy Jack's part 147 00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:39,720 Speaker 3: of the narrative though now right it's part of the 148 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 3: Dark's narrative. 149 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 2: It was more four years old. 150 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:43,800 Speaker 3: But no, but I'm saying it was one song that 151 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 3: probably made you, I don't know, get invested a little more. 152 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:49,039 Speaker 1: No, no, no, it was because up to that point, 153 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:51,280 Speaker 1: I've been listening to all sorts of you know, just 154 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:52,440 Speaker 1: I played the guitar. 155 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:53,800 Speaker 2: And I about. 156 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 1: As well as I do now, and I was listening 157 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:58,320 Speaker 1: to all different kinds of music, you know that. I think 158 00:05:58,360 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 1: I was sixteen seventies a lot of like pear Old 159 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:02,119 Speaker 1: and just trying to find my voice. 160 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:02,320 Speaker 2: You know. 161 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 1: My sister loved you too, and I just trying different 162 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:07,680 Speaker 1: things on. And I heard this electric guitar in my 163 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 1: room and my buddy Jack Brown came in. He goes, 164 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 1: I got to play something, just listen to this, and 165 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 1: he played me Hank Hank Junior a song called Manda Man, 166 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 1: and then he played me Marty Stewart's That's Country, and 167 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:21,800 Speaker 1: then Alan Jackson's good night Montgomery, and I remember when 168 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 1: I heard that's Country. I kind of fell down to 169 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 1: my sat down in my chair, and it was a 170 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:29,120 Speaker 1: real I acquitted to, like meeting my wife. It was 171 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 1: one of those moments it's like, oh my god, this 172 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:32,440 Speaker 1: is it. It was like it was a it was 173 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 1: a very like thing, like right away at that exact moment. 174 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:39,039 Speaker 3: Did that make you want to start listening to All 175 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:41,719 Speaker 3: Hooked one hundred percent? Everything adjacent? 176 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 1: I remember leaving every CD I had behind on a shelf, 177 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:46,239 Speaker 1: just like I don't even want this stuff. 178 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 2: It's not country. I don't even want to try. 179 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 1: I remember here trying to take all my which I 180 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:54,360 Speaker 1: wish I had now great you know Black Sabbath, and 181 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 1: I had seventh Son of the seventh Son, but Iron 182 00:06:56,440 --> 00:06:57,839 Speaker 1: made all this guitar stuff because I was really an 183 00:06:57,880 --> 00:06:59,800 Speaker 1: electric guitar. I remember taking to the Great Escape, which 184 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:01,600 Speaker 1: I don't thing is even here anymore. It was down 185 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:04,760 Speaker 1: by South Street, which is also gone, and they didn't 186 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:06,160 Speaker 1: even want it. It was like they didn't want in 187 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:08,760 Speaker 1: my hairband, you know, Winger all that stuff. So I 188 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 1: remember leaving an apartment behind, just leaving it all on 189 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:12,559 Speaker 1: the counter. I'm like, if it's not country or blue grass. 190 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 1: I don't even want to be like physically in contact 191 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:16,960 Speaker 1: with it. So yeah, at that moment, it was just 192 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 1: country from there on, and it's still kind of where 193 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:21,960 Speaker 1: I am musically. My wife knows so much more about 194 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 1: music than I do. I know country and bluegrass as 195 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 1: well as anybody in this town, but beyond that, it's 196 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:30,560 Speaker 1: a little and I know I still know some winger too. 197 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:32,240 Speaker 1: She's only seventeen, and what a great song. 198 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:36,280 Speaker 2: I don't know that one. She's only seventeen. I do 199 00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 2: know that one. 200 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:40,280 Speaker 1: Seven. Yeah, he sings it now. She's only thirty five. 201 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 1: He's got a little bit older. 202 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:44,960 Speaker 3: See he's also it's weird all the songs that would 203 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:47,640 Speaker 3: reference seventeen year old sixteen year. 204 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 2: Old fen on age well as a singer. 205 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:53,240 Speaker 3: That's not a good Uh, she's sixteen, she's beautiful and 206 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:54,000 Speaker 3: she's mine. 207 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 2: It's like, dude, you're forty one song? I got it. 208 00:07:56,520 --> 00:07:59,640 Speaker 1: Becky was a beauty and of a white turtleneck. Maybe 209 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:00,920 Speaker 1: changed my song round? 210 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:01,480 Speaker 2: Wait, what's that? 211 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 3: Becky was a beauty South Alabama dad. He had a 212 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 3: heart like a non pad. But I was thinking by 213 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:09,560 Speaker 3: the little white tank top sitting right but. 214 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 1: There's no age reference. No, no, no, maybe eternal neck 215 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:13,840 Speaker 1: that might be more properly. No, you're good now. 216 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:19,680 Speaker 3: They were like Becky was fifteen from South Alabama. 217 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:21,080 Speaker 2: That would be problematic. 218 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 1: Okay, the tank top is still okay, Yeah, okay, okay. 219 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:25,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, No, tak tops all good because that's a big 220 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 2: part of the song. 221 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 3: So well, did you want to do music even though 222 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:31,880 Speaker 3: it wasn't country yet, like fourteen or fifteen years old? 223 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, I was a thirteenth birthday party. Uh, Me and 224 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:39,559 Speaker 1: two friends had a combined birthday party at someone's backyard Austin, 225 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:42,480 Speaker 1: Austin's backyard and pizza party and a bunch of friends. 226 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:45,440 Speaker 1: And the new guy was there and uh in our 227 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:47,000 Speaker 1: grade that year, and he told me he played the 228 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:49,240 Speaker 1: electric guitar. And I was like, what you you can 229 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:51,360 Speaker 1: played electric guitar. That's something you're allowed to do. I 230 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 1: think I had. I played saxophone in the school band 231 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:56,319 Speaker 1: or something. And I went to his house a couple 232 00:08:56,400 --> 00:08:59,559 Speaker 1: days later and he had electric guitar and a Marshall 233 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:03,000 Speaker 1: amp or maybe it's a great hamp and a crappy 234 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:05,040 Speaker 1: electric guitar, and it just hit me the same way. 235 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:07,000 Speaker 1: It was just like I remember thinking like, wow, you 236 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:10,319 Speaker 1: can like pick this thing up and totally change the 237 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 1: way you're feeling just by playing this thing. Having a 238 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:14,320 Speaker 1: bad day, you can pick this thing up and start. 239 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:16,200 Speaker 1: That was That's the thing that still sticks out to me. 240 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 1: But I remember about that instrument was about girls or 241 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:21,200 Speaker 1: it's just about being able to change your mood. And 242 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:24,720 Speaker 1: so that's what really got me into playing the guitar. 243 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 1: But he would, he would just advance so much quicker 244 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:28,959 Speaker 1: than I would on the instrument. He was just such 245 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 1: a good guitar player. And I'm still like, you know, 246 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:33,320 Speaker 1: just trying to get the pick to coordinate with the 247 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:37,599 Speaker 1: left hand is still struggle for me. Even doing like 248 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:40,360 Speaker 1: a cheat run or something. I'm like five out of 249 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:42,679 Speaker 1: ten every time I try to hit that. But but yeah, 250 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:43,960 Speaker 1: at that point I knew I just love I mean, 251 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 1: I always love music. I think just my generation, you know, 252 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 1: there was nothing else besides music. There was nothing else 253 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 1: was posters on the wall. It was sports and music. Yeah, 254 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:58,200 Speaker 1: sports Arizona. I mean we had oh that's tough hockey, 255 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:01,680 Speaker 1: no baseball, No football didn't exist yet. No with the 256 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 1: road Runners was an IHL hockey team, Phoenix and Ferno 257 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:06,200 Speaker 1: is an indoor soccer team. 258 00:10:06,360 --> 00:10:08,480 Speaker 2: Were the Sons Yeah with the Sun and that was 259 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:09,280 Speaker 2: a huge Sons fan. 260 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:13,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, but death under Dan Marley and long Range, Danny 261 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:16,840 Speaker 1: Ainge and Kevin Johnson, and I was a huge Sons fans. 262 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:19,319 Speaker 1: There was that, But as far as like just other entertainment, 263 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 1: we didn't have any cable we might you know, we 264 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 1: just just music. I older sisters, so I mean, she's 265 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:27,480 Speaker 1: born seventy one. So music was like it was everything 266 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:29,360 Speaker 1: was It was the currency you traded with your friends. 267 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:30,640 Speaker 1: Who you into, What do you listen to? 268 00:10:30,679 --> 00:10:33,320 Speaker 2: You know? Just so it was always around. 269 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:35,920 Speaker 1: But and then thirteen I started playing in the seventeen 270 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:38,199 Speaker 1: to kind of condense the story was when I heard. 271 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:40,160 Speaker 2: Hank Junior and it was like, well that's that's the thing. 272 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:46,559 Speaker 3: Who's your favorite band as a kid or artist? Billy Idol? 273 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 3: I had a poster. I still have the poster. 274 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:51,080 Speaker 1: My mom when she moved all this stuff out, she 275 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:52,720 Speaker 1: sent me this stuff and couldn't throw away. So I 276 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:55,040 Speaker 1: still have a Billy Idol poster in my garage. 277 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:56,720 Speaker 2: I spiked my. 278 00:10:56,720 --> 00:11:00,520 Speaker 1: Hair like a wedding. Great oh yeah, white wedding. Yeah, 279 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:02,560 Speaker 1: you know, Oh, he's so great. I used to spike 280 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 1: my hair. An actual autograph I've ever, I've just signed something. 281 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:07,440 Speaker 1: It's based off of his because he had a the 282 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:09,920 Speaker 1: B was like a sharp B, you know, like those, 283 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:13,079 Speaker 1: And that's kind of how I kind of just based 284 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:15,000 Speaker 1: my signature off off of Billy Idol's. 285 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:18,360 Speaker 2: Actually, did you learn any Billy Idol music? I just 286 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:19,080 Speaker 2: had the voice for it. 287 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:20,679 Speaker 1: I think that's what happened listening to him and these 288 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:22,520 Speaker 1: other bands that these guys, these lead singers had this 289 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:24,959 Speaker 1: higher voice, and then you listen to something like Hank Junior, like, oh, 290 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:27,080 Speaker 1: that's a voice I can kind of replicate. It's a lower, 291 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:30,319 Speaker 1: lower voice. You know, I could never sing that or stuff. 292 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:31,079 Speaker 1: You know, do you. 293 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:34,960 Speaker 2: Spend any time with Billy Idol or Hank Jr. No, 294 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:37,720 Speaker 2: I don't. I've met Hank. 295 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:39,720 Speaker 1: I've always wanted to go to do the you know, 296 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 1: he goes around them in your house. He comes around 297 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 1: here and he has that uh metal what do you 298 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:44,160 Speaker 1: call it? 299 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:44,280 Speaker 2: Thing? 300 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:46,679 Speaker 1: You look for metal like metal textor metal detector. And 301 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:48,880 Speaker 1: he goes to people's houses around here, you know'll knock 302 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:49,360 Speaker 1: on the door. 303 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:50,320 Speaker 2: He used to. 304 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:52,600 Speaker 1: I swear to god, you been to Tony Brown's house, 305 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:55,360 Speaker 1: and he said, Hey, according to my old maps where 306 00:11:55,400 --> 00:11:58,719 Speaker 1: your house is was a historic battle. Do you mind 307 00:11:58,760 --> 00:12:00,240 Speaker 1: if I go back in your backyard just to a 308 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:01,560 Speaker 1: few things. He'll go out there and kind of digging 309 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:02,720 Speaker 1: the dirt up a little bit and stuff. 310 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:04,600 Speaker 3: There are stories of people just getting a knock at 311 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:06,720 Speaker 3: the door and it's St. Junior with a metal detector. 312 00:12:06,920 --> 00:12:11,640 Speaker 1: Yes, Anastasia Brown could uh that's still her last name. 313 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:13,640 Speaker 1: She would, she's she's told me that, and that's uh, 314 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:15,920 Speaker 1: you know, he's done it. Chris Jansen's done it with him. 315 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:16,680 Speaker 2: I think, uh. 316 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:21,079 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean he don't ox and overlays his map 317 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:23,400 Speaker 1: over the current you know this area and goes and 318 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:25,760 Speaker 1: digs around stuff. That'd be pretty cool. I've never met 319 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:27,920 Speaker 1: Billie Idol. I still plan on doing it one day, 320 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:31,480 Speaker 1: but I never have. He still goes shirtless, and I know, 321 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:34,440 Speaker 1: I know he credited solid plates. That's why I did 322 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:35,319 Speaker 1: plots the other day. 323 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:36,000 Speaker 2: No, I'm kidding. 324 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:37,960 Speaker 1: I did do ploates there with my daughter and I'm 325 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:39,000 Speaker 1: having a hard time walking right. 326 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:41,840 Speaker 2: I did that with my wife, Yeah, like a month ago. 327 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 3: And anything you do that's different with your body, your 328 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:49,439 Speaker 3: body feels it. Yeah, even if it's not as hard 329 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:51,520 Speaker 3: as something else that you're doing. No, because I and 330 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:53,439 Speaker 3: I shouldn't say not as hard. That's unfair to Plates. 331 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:58,800 Speaker 3: So let me say this again. Yeah, yeah, come take hey, Yes, yes, 332 00:12:58,800 --> 00:13:00,920 Speaker 3: because it was hard, but I will work out what 333 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:02,800 Speaker 3: I feel is very hard with my trainer. 334 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:04,640 Speaker 2: Name's Kevin Klue. Shout out Kevin Klukee. 335 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:08,440 Speaker 3: We go hard and I'm like, Plates, we're gonna do 336 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:11,040 Speaker 3: some stretching. I know, it's exactly and you go in 337 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:14,200 Speaker 3: and it's me, my wife and like seventeen. 338 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 2: Other women another guys. 339 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:18,959 Speaker 3: I'm like, like, they haven't even seen me do squads. 340 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:22,760 Speaker 3: I'm gonna win today. Yes, And I'm telling you about 341 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:23,600 Speaker 3: a fifth. 342 00:13:23,280 --> 00:13:23,640 Speaker 2: Of the way. 343 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, you're taking the bar, taking a strap off, You're cheating, 344 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:29,480 Speaker 1: You're yeah, I can't hold things as well. I'm looking 345 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:30,720 Speaker 1: around us, everybody's looking at me. 346 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:31,480 Speaker 2: Oh yeah. 347 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:34,080 Speaker 3: And then the next day I'm like, oh, I'm sure. 348 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:35,440 Speaker 3: Two days later, I can't move. 349 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:37,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's how I am today. I'm kind of kind 350 00:13:37,280 --> 00:13:39,240 Speaker 1: of creeping in here a little bit so. But it 351 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:42,080 Speaker 1: was a good daddy daughter kind of experience. But and 352 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:43,960 Speaker 1: every dude should be doing it. I mean, it's like 353 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:46,560 Speaker 1: the perfect workout as you get older, just for like, 354 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 1: you know, stretching and posture and all the fine tuning muscles. 355 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:53,679 Speaker 1: So I'm not giving up on it, but don't do anything. 356 00:13:53,720 --> 00:13:55,280 Speaker 1: My back is always I heard my back alone time. 357 00:13:55,320 --> 00:13:56,760 Speaker 1: It's always had a kind of bad back. So I'm 358 00:13:56,760 --> 00:14:00,240 Speaker 1: trying all sorts of random crapper recently, just some just whatever. 359 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:00,880 Speaker 2: I'll try anything. 360 00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:03,800 Speaker 3: I tweaked my back. Oh I was gonna bring this. 361 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:06,200 Speaker 3: I didn't, but I have my pickleball metal. I played 362 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:08,079 Speaker 3: it nice. I played in two tournaments. 363 00:14:08,120 --> 00:14:09,600 Speaker 2: Ever, that's why I heard my back last time. 364 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:12,959 Speaker 1: I tweaked my back and it wouldn't. I can't fix it. 365 00:14:13,080 --> 00:14:14,920 Speaker 1: I'm on the road with Zach Top. All these guys 366 00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:18,120 Speaker 1: are literally half my age. We'll go twenty seven, twenty seven, 367 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:19,880 Speaker 1: but band guys are even younger than that. We'll go 368 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:22,800 Speaker 1: and we'll go find some court somewhere. And I hate 369 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:24,760 Speaker 1: warming up. I don't stretch. I don't want to do 370 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:26,600 Speaker 1: the DNC dink dink. I want let's let's get it going. 371 00:14:26,640 --> 00:14:28,880 Speaker 1: I hate warming up famous last words. Oh yeah, so 372 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:31,360 Speaker 1: let's get this thing going against these and these guys 373 00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:33,200 Speaker 1: are out there smoking and drinking while they're playing too, 374 00:14:33,280 --> 00:14:35,200 Speaker 1: just to add insult to injury. You know, I at 375 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:37,800 Speaker 1: least I'm like sober, and uh, you have both my 376 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:40,200 Speaker 1: hands available for you know, I was smoke in one 377 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:42,600 Speaker 1: hand and yeah, it's just a small tweak. You go, 378 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:45,200 Speaker 1: ooh that that might hurt a little bit tomorrow, and 379 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:46,560 Speaker 1: then it just grow, you know. 380 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:49,080 Speaker 2: Two weeks later, it gets cold, it starts to hurt. 381 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:50,800 Speaker 2: And yeah, I was. 382 00:14:50,880 --> 00:14:53,800 Speaker 3: Uh. So I played the first pickleball tournament. I play 383 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 3: singles because yes, yeah, that's what real men do. I 384 00:14:57,400 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 3: like singles also, like I can get a good work 385 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:01,760 Speaker 3: at it. Yeah, exactly, And so I play singles and 386 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:03,440 Speaker 3: I go and I play this tournament. I never played tournament, 387 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:05,160 Speaker 3: and I ended up making it to the final four 388 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:07,960 Speaker 3: and I finished third, right, and it's a it wasn't 389 00:15:07,960 --> 00:15:08,840 Speaker 3: a four point oh tournament. 390 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:11,720 Speaker 1: But I try below that fifth grade tournament fourth grade, 391 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:14,920 Speaker 1: Yeah Kramer when he does, when he does fourth grade mixed. 392 00:15:16,840 --> 00:15:19,360 Speaker 3: I was pretty happy myself played. Well, go, and I'm like, 393 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:21,000 Speaker 3: I'm playing another one. I'm gonna go leve a level 394 00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:23,880 Speaker 3: and playing this and I tweaked my back like second game, yeah, 395 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:27,640 Speaker 3: and I'm out. I've never quit anything, and I thought 396 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:30,040 Speaker 3: to myself. If I don't stop, I'll never walk in 397 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:32,040 Speaker 3: right right, I was just seeing me roll in a 398 00:15:32,040 --> 00:15:34,440 Speaker 3: wheelchair in the studio. Ye, and my back has not 399 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:36,320 Speaker 3: been the same since. And this is two old guys 400 00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:38,080 Speaker 3: talking to if. 401 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:41,800 Speaker 1: You do, if you do small talk of this, you know, old, 402 00:15:41,920 --> 00:15:44,440 Speaker 1: oldish and older, dude, you're gonna have So what else 403 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:45,040 Speaker 1: is hurting yet? 404 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:47,520 Speaker 2: But yeah, no, I and I've I've literally tried everything. 405 00:15:47,520 --> 00:15:49,280 Speaker 2: I got an ankle that I lost the part legit 406 00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:54,680 Speaker 2: I do. So I playing pickleball. Yeah, I was playing. 407 00:15:54,920 --> 00:15:56,040 Speaker 2: Maybe you should try something else. 408 00:15:56,440 --> 00:15:58,720 Speaker 3: I know it's the only thing I can be really 409 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:02,960 Speaker 3: competitive and still Yeah, Brett Eldridge is who oh yeah, 410 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:04,800 Speaker 3: he used to reach out from about playing. So it 411 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:06,960 Speaker 3: was only playing at his house all the time. Yeah, 412 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:07,880 Speaker 3: and then so I. 413 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:10,160 Speaker 2: Built I saw it. I built court here based off 414 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:12,040 Speaker 2: of Brett's court. I know where to sneak in now. 415 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:16,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, I've invited you over, I know, and you're like, no, no, no, 416 00:16:16,160 --> 00:16:18,040 Speaker 3: not competitive now that know you play singles and you 417 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:18,960 Speaker 3: have a bad back. 418 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:21,240 Speaker 2: An ankle, but I'm missing corlage and there's nothing you 419 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:22,200 Speaker 2: can do. It just always hurts. 420 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:25,160 Speaker 3: It doesn't get more injured, but I take and I inflammatories. 421 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:28,720 Speaker 3: You do that, No, it makes it feel so much. 422 00:16:28,520 --> 00:16:32,440 Speaker 2: Better, do you. I had these prescribe me something. I 423 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:34,200 Speaker 2: haven't taken it yet. It's it's it's excellent. Yeah. I 424 00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:36,680 Speaker 2: don't take anything I didn't even taken as I'm very 425 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:40,480 Speaker 2: anti medicine too. Yeah, I just like it. Maybe it helps, 426 00:16:40,520 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 2: but maybe not. I don't know. I just don't want 427 00:16:42,080 --> 00:16:42,960 Speaker 2: to get dependent on anything. 428 00:16:43,320 --> 00:16:44,760 Speaker 1: I do take some stuff for sleep, so I'm a 429 00:16:45,880 --> 00:16:50,080 Speaker 1: world's most horrible sleeper. Uh, but I sleep the best 430 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:51,800 Speaker 1: when I'm not taking anything. But this time of year, 431 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 1: with travel and touring and just I just I'll take 432 00:16:55,120 --> 00:16:56,640 Speaker 1: literally anything. I try to get my heart beat down 433 00:16:56,640 --> 00:16:58,000 Speaker 1: about twenty nine beats a minute. 434 00:16:58,200 --> 00:16:59,560 Speaker 2: That ain't good. You know you didn't want to No, No, 435 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 2: you're dead. 436 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:02,680 Speaker 1: Just flat line, just above the flat line. And that's 437 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:04,880 Speaker 1: where I try to get it every night, just to somehow. 438 00:17:05,280 --> 00:17:07,359 Speaker 2: You were one of those aura. 439 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:09,480 Speaker 3: No, I had that whoop thing for a while, and 440 00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:12,200 Speaker 3: I I. 441 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:13,360 Speaker 2: Wasn't much of a bracelet guy. 442 00:17:13,680 --> 00:17:17,119 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. I mean I do use I 443 00:17:17,119 --> 00:17:17,800 Speaker 3: look at it every night. 444 00:17:17,840 --> 00:17:19,440 Speaker 1: You know, I got five and a half last night 445 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:21,840 Speaker 1: and it said apparently I don't think I did, but 446 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:23,680 Speaker 1: it says that. And sometimes you feel like you slept 447 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:25,080 Speaker 1: great and you oh god, I had no deep sleep, 448 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:27,160 Speaker 1: so you know, But do you. 449 00:17:27,080 --> 00:17:30,400 Speaker 2: Like that I got a bit too obsessed with the data. Yeah, 450 00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:32,960 Speaker 2: the data, gaus, she's all about the data. I go. 451 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:36,520 Speaker 3: So I have I have two therapists. Yeah, good, and 452 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:40,800 Speaker 3: one of them that's a really give me the number. 453 00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:41,480 Speaker 3: I might take one. 454 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:44,320 Speaker 1: I have a psychiatrist. Do you know how do you 455 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:47,600 Speaker 1: know the sound of successful celebrity? It's two therapists. 456 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:51,320 Speaker 3: Ye. How do you know somebody that doesn't sleep? I 457 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 3: mean that's what I try to do. Asleep, person, I don't. 458 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:56,240 Speaker 3: I sleep the worst of anybody I've ever met. Oh, 459 00:17:56,240 --> 00:17:58,320 Speaker 3: I'm right there with you, just because and I never 460 00:17:58,440 --> 00:18:01,200 Speaker 3: thought I had what was additionally called anxiety. 461 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:03,440 Speaker 2: I never I didn't disrespect anxiety. I just never had it. 462 00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:06,720 Speaker 3: I felt it turns out it manifests itself at night 463 00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:08,880 Speaker 3: or when I start to slow down, because they don't 464 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:09,280 Speaker 3: slow down. 465 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:10,960 Speaker 1: My brain doesn't slow down. Yeah, that's what's my problem. 466 00:18:10,960 --> 00:18:12,440 Speaker 1: My brain's like a little iPhone that gets like a 467 00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:15,080 Speaker 1: five percent charges. Like I'm back on again. Well that's 468 00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:16,760 Speaker 1: the road for me. Like, I got shows this weekend. 469 00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:19,040 Speaker 1: I will hopefully sleep tonight before I go to Savannah'll 470 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:21,199 Speaker 1: fly out there first show. I won't sleep it all 471 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:23,879 Speaker 1: between Savannah and Birmingham. I won't sleep it all between Birmam. 472 00:18:23,920 --> 00:18:26,240 Speaker 1: Why what is literally zero point zero hours? 473 00:18:26,280 --> 00:18:27,640 Speaker 2: I know? But why? Well? 474 00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:29,240 Speaker 1: First of all, if I'm on the bus, I don't 475 00:18:29,280 --> 00:18:31,520 Speaker 1: know how people The one we have ever slept on 476 00:18:31,560 --> 00:18:33,240 Speaker 1: the bus is in the blackout and that worked well 477 00:18:33,280 --> 00:18:34,200 Speaker 1: for a decade and a half. 478 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:35,960 Speaker 2: Right, you just fall over. Wherever you fall over, you 479 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:38,159 Speaker 2: wake up like an exhausted or drunk drunk got it? 480 00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:40,159 Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah, just like a MacBook that's like fully 481 00:18:40,359 --> 00:18:41,480 Speaker 1: running a thousand files. 482 00:18:41,480 --> 00:18:42,560 Speaker 2: It's in the night, you're partying. 483 00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:46,040 Speaker 1: Its great on just close it down and open back 484 00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:47,600 Speaker 1: up next morning and see what kind of damage you 485 00:18:47,640 --> 00:18:51,440 Speaker 1: did to it. That's my brain for sure. And now 486 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:53,480 Speaker 1: it's just I'm on a bus. We're rolling around. 487 00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:54,240 Speaker 2: I have all. 488 00:18:54,080 --> 00:18:59,440 Speaker 1: The usual, like just so much energy right of people's faces. 489 00:18:59,480 --> 00:19:01,840 Speaker 1: And you know, my job as the lead singer of 490 00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:04,920 Speaker 1: our band is like kind of curate that energy and 491 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:07,840 Speaker 1: move it around and build it up. And it's like 492 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:09,560 Speaker 1: a pizza doll you're working with all it long, and 493 00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:11,400 Speaker 1: then you're back the bus. I might let a couple 494 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:13,240 Speaker 1: of hours go by, but I'm also really tired, so 495 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:15,120 Speaker 1: I can't stayup as late as I would want to, 496 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:16,679 Speaker 1: just to crash. So I'll get in my bunk and 497 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:19,000 Speaker 1: all this song stuck my head the other night, in 498 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:22,160 Speaker 1: my head here at home I had. I'm so excited 499 00:19:22,720 --> 00:19:24,920 Speaker 1: and I just can't hide it. I haven't listened to 500 00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:27,080 Speaker 1: that song in twenty five years. It's somehow found its 501 00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:29,800 Speaker 1: way into my brain and I loop it all night long. 502 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:32,200 Speaker 1: I'll wear these things called oslo. Have you seen those 503 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:34,720 Speaker 1: earbuds you put in You can just like sleepable earbuds, 504 00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:37,960 Speaker 1: and you can listen like a book on tape, and 505 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:40,040 Speaker 1: then it'll taper off into like white noise when it 506 00:19:40,040 --> 00:19:43,240 Speaker 1: thinks you're asleep. I'll try I've tried, you know, trazodone 507 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:45,280 Speaker 1: and tried to gain a bunch of weight. 508 00:19:45,520 --> 00:19:47,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, just almost as a pasibo. 509 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:50,320 Speaker 1: And now I take like two five just to like think 510 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:52,520 Speaker 1: I'm taking something, you know, I don't know. 511 00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:53,680 Speaker 2: I just I'll do two nights in a row and 512 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:55,320 Speaker 2: now sleep on the road. Some night makes her a 513 00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:55,960 Speaker 2: better show in. 514 00:19:55,920 --> 00:19:59,439 Speaker 1: A weird way, maybe more raw you're more emotional for myself, 515 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:01,399 Speaker 1: crying talk about my dad and I hold on and 516 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:05,119 Speaker 1: I'm just like so raw. My voice is like extra 517 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 1: gravelly because it's just so tired. So it actually makes 518 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:09,119 Speaker 1: for a better show for the audience. But it's a 519 00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:12,080 Speaker 1: it's a hard way to live. And usually I come 520 00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:14,120 Speaker 1: back here and do better. But I'd love to talk 521 00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:15,760 Speaker 1: to sleep therapist. It worked. 522 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:21,199 Speaker 2: I I get scared every night. Okay. I have a 523 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:22,280 Speaker 2: couple of a couple of things. 524 00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:27,640 Speaker 3: One, I have to exhaust myself now by just exercising, yeah, 525 00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:31,440 Speaker 3: and watching stuff. I need to stimulate myself until I collapse. Okay, Yeah, 526 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:36,240 Speaker 3: because I I've tried to. I meditated. Yeah, I've done 527 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:39,879 Speaker 3: all I've done. I really have dedicated myself. I have 528 00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:41,399 Speaker 3: one Yeah, I go. We have a we have a 529 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:44,080 Speaker 3: full red light bed. Yeah, like we've we've bought all 530 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:47,320 Speaker 3: the stuff. Yea, like all the stuff stuff the same way. 531 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:50,320 Speaker 3: And I really have an appreciation for sleep because I 532 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:50,800 Speaker 3: don't get it. 533 00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:52,000 Speaker 2: Well, it's it's all superpower. 534 00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:55,200 Speaker 3: I'm sleeping water and I can I can drink enough water. 535 00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:57,479 Speaker 3: I just can't really get this, I say, can't. I'm 536 00:20:57,520 --> 00:20:58,840 Speaker 3: still trying, So I don't want to say can't. I 537 00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:02,000 Speaker 3: don't like to say can't. Yeah, I'm in the process 538 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:07,080 Speaker 3: of finding my best way to rehabilitate my body each night. Yeah, 539 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:08,920 Speaker 3: but I think there are a couple factors that play 540 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:14,600 Speaker 3: with me. One is I haven't it's such a cop out, 541 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:17,640 Speaker 3: but I have some sort of my brain just won't 542 00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:22,080 Speaker 3: stop right now whatever. I have a lot of PTSD 543 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:25,520 Speaker 3: from like getting jumped, to have my house broken into 544 00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:30,280 Speaker 3: having death of that. Read the books and this one's weird. 545 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:32,919 Speaker 3: I'm always a little afraid that if I go to sleep, 546 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:34,320 Speaker 3: I'm gonna wake up not here. 547 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:35,280 Speaker 2: Wow. 548 00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:39,199 Speaker 3: Every night I wonder a lot, or not wake up 549 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:42,560 Speaker 3: at all. Yeah, Like I think when I go to sleep, 550 00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:45,760 Speaker 3: I have this odds are worn in a simulation anyway, 551 00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:46,960 Speaker 3: But yeah, one. 552 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:48,800 Speaker 2: Of some sort. 553 00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:53,399 Speaker 3: Even if you believe and it's the god above in Heaven, 554 00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:56,600 Speaker 3: sure that this is still These bodies are a temporary. 555 00:21:56,359 --> 00:21:58,160 Speaker 2: Video games one's playing. It's amazing. Yeah. 556 00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:01,160 Speaker 3: So I think about that every day for hours every day, 557 00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:04,080 Speaker 3: And so when I go to sleep, I'm psychotic. And 558 00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:06,160 Speaker 3: I go to sleep every night I wonder is this over? 559 00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:09,880 Speaker 2: Wow? And it is not. It's nothing rational about it. Yeah, 560 00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:12,520 Speaker 2: you might need three therapists. That's a crazy thought, I know. 561 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:15,560 Speaker 1: My so I start taking volume out of nurse practitioner 562 00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:16,879 Speaker 1: that gave me Valume and I took that and it 563 00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:18,880 Speaker 1: was amazing for about eight days and then stopped working. 564 00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:21,000 Speaker 1: And then she gave me Kalanapin and I took that 565 00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:22,879 Speaker 1: for almost eight years and that was the hardest thing 566 00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:23,520 Speaker 1: to went off of it. 567 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:26,320 Speaker 2: I finally got off that. But there's nice. Now. 568 00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:28,320 Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm gonna wish I had that because it 569 00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:31,160 Speaker 1: does like work really well for like a week. But anyway, 570 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:34,960 Speaker 1: welcome to the Old Person's podcast. But I talk about 571 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:36,080 Speaker 1: it a lot, I'm sure ever on the road, I 572 00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:37,560 Speaker 1: know they get sick of me talking about it because 573 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:39,600 Speaker 1: it's just like see. 574 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:40,280 Speaker 2: I talk about it to my show all the time. 575 00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:41,360 Speaker 2: Get over. 576 00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:43,040 Speaker 1: It's like I said, to know me used to be 577 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:45,639 Speaker 1: like to know how much love country music or a 578 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:48,120 Speaker 1: drive around my truck, or to fly with me or 579 00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:50,160 Speaker 1: be on my bus. But really to know me now 580 00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:53,080 Speaker 1: just it's like how much I value like sleep. It 581 00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:54,160 Speaker 1: is the greatest thing. 582 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:55,440 Speaker 2: And when I. 583 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:57,080 Speaker 1: Do get off the road, it's like the number one 584 00:22:57,080 --> 00:23:00,320 Speaker 1: priority is like let's just let's get it and I 585 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:00,959 Speaker 1: will get back when. 586 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:03,280 Speaker 2: I mean, we'll see once I get back into a routine. 587 00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:06,080 Speaker 4: Here, let's take a quick pause for a message from 588 00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:17,800 Speaker 4: our sponsor, and we're back on the Bobby Cast. 589 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:19,480 Speaker 2: We did a bit this morning. 590 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:22,680 Speaker 3: We were talking about what's a rich life, not meaning 591 00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:24,800 Speaker 3: rich with just money, but like one are the three things? 592 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:26,880 Speaker 3: And one of the three things that I said was 593 00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:29,960 Speaker 3: sleeping through the night. That literally was one absolutely because 594 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:33,280 Speaker 3: I don't do it, and you until you like. 595 00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:35,880 Speaker 1: How'd you sleep last night? And we don only sleep 596 00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:37,800 Speaker 1: in the same room right now anymore. We've moved beyond that. 597 00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:39,600 Speaker 2: Week the first time I get that too. Yeah. 598 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:42,320 Speaker 1: So I've been thinking about this for years. She moves 599 00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:45,560 Speaker 1: the tiniest bit before saying, we get in bed together, right. 600 00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:47,720 Speaker 1: I'm just even thinking about where the position I have 601 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:50,000 Speaker 1: three pillows have to be positions exactly the correct way. 602 00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:53,000 Speaker 1: I'm just thinking about the process of getting to fall asleep, 603 00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:54,439 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden she will. 604 00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:56,879 Speaker 2: Jerk like you got to be kidding me, You're already out. 605 00:23:57,400 --> 00:24:00,439 Speaker 1: She's already sleeping like that, and so she'll movey bit. 606 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:00,960 Speaker 2: I feel it. 607 00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:04,160 Speaker 1: So years ago I decided to separate church and state, 608 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:05,720 Speaker 1: and I got rid of our bed, and I've got 609 00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:09,960 Speaker 1: two platform beds and two box springs and two mattresses 610 00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:10,720 Speaker 1: and monsters. 611 00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:13,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, and then two have my own debt. She is 612 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:13,800 Speaker 2: her debate. 613 00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:16,200 Speaker 1: There's a clear line, you can see the floor between 614 00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:18,280 Speaker 1: her bed and mind. So it's like independent suspension. Why 615 00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:20,240 Speaker 1: would you have a truck with lee springs when you 616 00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:22,960 Speaker 1: can have you know, independent suspension, So she can move 617 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:25,159 Speaker 1: around all she wants. And yeah, if you feel like 618 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:26,920 Speaker 1: you can bleing the extra sleep, you can kind of push. 619 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:28,080 Speaker 2: Her bed a little further over. 620 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:31,640 Speaker 1: But here lately she's like, because I'm just such an animal, 621 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:34,280 Speaker 1: it's terrible. She's like, she's sleeping the couch now, She's like, 622 00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:36,560 Speaker 1: there's next room we have and she just goes sleeping there. 623 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:38,360 Speaker 1: And even last night we're like, we've got to get 624 00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:40,840 Speaker 1: this back on track. When I get off the road, 625 00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:42,320 Speaker 1: We've got to get back to the stanmerroom. We just 626 00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:44,920 Speaker 1: we've never had a TV in our bedroom. Just put 627 00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:47,920 Speaker 1: one in, Like we're I have my dad's old recliner 628 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:50,160 Speaker 1: over there that my mom didn't want. So it's it's 629 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:52,639 Speaker 1: a nice health and wellness set up with got going on. 630 00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:54,439 Speaker 1: So I'm gonna try to move her back in this year. 631 00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:55,040 Speaker 1: It's a big plan. 632 00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:57,080 Speaker 2: A good luck, good luck to you two kids. I 633 00:24:57,240 --> 00:25:00,959 Speaker 2: like trying to make it work. I we went to Germany. 634 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:05,879 Speaker 2: We were in a hotel room. You can't do that 635 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:06,880 Speaker 2: one bed. Well. 636 00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:08,520 Speaker 3: But here's the great thing that I learned. They have 637 00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:10,520 Speaker 3: something called Scandinavian comfort or something like that. 638 00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:10,760 Speaker 2: Yeah. 639 00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:13,240 Speaker 1: Well, that Scandinavian study shows that thirty percent every time 640 00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:15,920 Speaker 1: you move the that this ruptures sleep by thirty percent. 641 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:17,280 Speaker 2: I don't ever read that. But you have to have 642 00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:19,679 Speaker 2: your own comforter, and that is what we learned. So 643 00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:20,520 Speaker 2: that is what we have now. 644 00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:22,359 Speaker 1: Gotta have your own comfort. Person turns over in a 645 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:24,479 Speaker 1: wake shopping, you're like, what the hell? Yep, And they 646 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:26,280 Speaker 1: also over there don't do king sized beds. We're the 647 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:28,480 Speaker 1: only country does a king sized bed. Everywhere else does 648 00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:30,480 Speaker 1: two twins pushed together with a little thing down the 649 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:32,520 Speaker 1: middle to make it seem like a king But it's 650 00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:35,479 Speaker 1: always two mattresses. No, we're the only people that think 651 00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:37,040 Speaker 1: this is a great idea to have like one big 652 00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:37,720 Speaker 1: bed to sleep in. 653 00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:39,400 Speaker 2: Oh, I know that. Yeah. 654 00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:41,360 Speaker 3: Travelers make kind of fun for me, though I grew 655 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:43,440 Speaker 3: up in Arkansas, so I didn't travel any but now 656 00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:45,520 Speaker 3: like in the past, I don't know, seven years or so. 657 00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:49,000 Speaker 2: I like to go places and see stuff. Yeah, it's 658 00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:50,000 Speaker 2: I do. 659 00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:53,439 Speaker 3: I struggle sleeping there too because the times shift. But 660 00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:55,560 Speaker 3: I find though, if I have nothing that I can 661 00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:57,920 Speaker 3: commit to work wise, because the time zones are off, 662 00:25:58,440 --> 00:25:59,560 Speaker 3: it's a little easier on me. 663 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:03,280 Speaker 1: Absolutely on sleep. Yeah, I fa I think we're just 664 00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:05,280 Speaker 1: over in Europe for some shows. My family came with us, 665 00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:06,720 Speaker 1: And what I love about being over there is the 666 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:09,000 Speaker 1: time zone change, because it's like you can't do anything 667 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:11,680 Speaker 1: about it. It's it's three o'clock in the morning over 668 00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:13,479 Speaker 1: back here, like you just okay. It's almost like being 669 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:16,040 Speaker 1: on a different planet. You have zero connection to like 670 00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:18,119 Speaker 1: all that stuff that's back here. That's probably my favorite 671 00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:20,400 Speaker 1: thing about it. But I don't like the rooms where 672 00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:25,280 Speaker 1: one king bed, I get startcleing. Oh god, well, and 673 00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:29,159 Speaker 1: I try my wife using up on the She's the greatest. 674 00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:30,920 Speaker 1: I mean, she puts my sleep of everything else. She 675 00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:32,600 Speaker 1: will literally go sleep on the couch like in some 676 00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:35,320 Speaker 1: hotel room, so I can like try to get some sleep. 677 00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:37,840 Speaker 3: I've had normal hours too, which affects it a bit. Yeah, 678 00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:41,560 Speaker 3: you do, waking up at three or four in the morning. Yeah, yeah, anyway, 679 00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:42,160 Speaker 3: how about that? 680 00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:44,840 Speaker 1: There you go, look at just we've lost There's no 681 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:46,320 Speaker 1: one listening by now, so we can really talk about 682 00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:46,760 Speaker 1: anything we want. 683 00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:49,120 Speaker 3: Everyone's just like, good God, I want to hear this conversation. 684 00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:52,359 Speaker 3: I go to Grandpa's house listen. Oh you know what 685 00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:55,639 Speaker 3: I wonder if I can, can I talk about so 686 00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:58,800 Speaker 3: we have I we don't get to see each other 687 00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:00,680 Speaker 3: that often, but I do like consider you a friend. 688 00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:02,359 Speaker 3: And if it's like you ever need a kidney or something, 689 00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:03,479 Speaker 3: i'd i'd give you one. 690 00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:07,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, I would always get tested. Amazing, Yes, like 691 00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:08,760 Speaker 2: I like, I actually like and care about you. 692 00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:10,040 Speaker 1: You have good hair, so if every need a little 693 00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:13,040 Speaker 1: transplant down there, I might ask for a little couple 694 00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:13,320 Speaker 1: of spots. 695 00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:16,680 Speaker 3: It's still hanging in yet. Yeah yeah, I got good hair. Yeah, 696 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:17,760 Speaker 3: mine grows way too fast. 697 00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:20,720 Speaker 1: Now mine's hot. It's still just the same same length. 698 00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:23,360 Speaker 1: It's just like not as uh Thomas Frtt has, like. 699 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:24,720 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you're good. 700 00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:26,520 Speaker 3: Well, I haven't watched it a long time to count. 701 00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:27,959 Speaker 3: The pool's long. 702 00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:31,119 Speaker 1: Actually, I swim at Centennial Sportsplex today. 703 00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:34,359 Speaker 2: The swim thing going on. I used to swim, I 704 00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:36,840 Speaker 2: did track, I did a couple of eleve of trathlons. Yeah, 705 00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:38,960 Speaker 2: oh you did holf far much? How much? How us? 706 00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:41,400 Speaker 3: What's the length of It's not an iron man though, 707 00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:43,840 Speaker 3: so when people iron man me, I'm like, you went, well, 708 00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:44,240 Speaker 3: I'm not. 709 00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:45,080 Speaker 2: I'm not trying to compete. 710 00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:46,840 Speaker 1: I think I looked up today because I just I'm 711 00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:48,879 Speaker 1: trying to swim, just because he's playing hockey, and like 712 00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:50,240 Speaker 1: my miles with some a little bit. But I think 713 00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:55,640 Speaker 1: four thousand yards is like a true triathlon distance, which 714 00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:57,679 Speaker 1: is like two miles. I did a thousand yards too. 715 00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:00,040 Speaker 1: I thought that was a prett damn hard and I 716 00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:03,600 Speaker 1: my phone, I think that's all a mile Olympic try. 717 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:06,119 Speaker 1: Let me hold on, let me ask my what do you? 718 00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:09,000 Speaker 1: Let me ask my digital assistant. You got a digital assistant, dude, 719 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:10,400 Speaker 1: I got the best digital assistant. 720 00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:11,000 Speaker 2: Hold on? 721 00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:14,440 Speaker 3: How long do I swim? If I were to do 722 00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:15,480 Speaker 3: an Olympic trathlon? 723 00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:16,640 Speaker 2: So in an. 724 00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:20,000 Speaker 3: Olympic triathlet the swim portion is one point five kilometers, 725 00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:23,320 Speaker 3: which is about zero point nine three miles. So basically 726 00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:25,000 Speaker 3: you're looking at swimming just under a mile. 727 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:30,040 Speaker 2: It's a nice chunk of the race. I have assistant too, Hey, sirih, 728 00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:35,120 Speaker 2: how many yards are in a mile? So a thou? 729 00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:37,240 Speaker 1: Okay, so that's seventeen hundred yards. I only did a thousand. 730 00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:38,640 Speaker 1: I thought that was a lot. It's not apparently not 731 00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:41,200 Speaker 1: that many. But dude, a friend of mine in Alabama 732 00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:44,120 Speaker 1: just told me he listens to he makes his own podcasts. 733 00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:46,920 Speaker 1: Have you heard of this where you you ship everything 734 00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:49,240 Speaker 1: you want to have in there to curate it, and 735 00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:50,880 Speaker 1: then he has two voices kind of going back and 736 00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:51,480 Speaker 1: moderating it. 737 00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:53,280 Speaker 2: I mean, have you ever seen when they find out 738 00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:55,400 Speaker 2: they're not real? What? Who? 739 00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:56,200 Speaker 1: Oh? 740 00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:58,400 Speaker 2: He doesn't he knows they're not real? No? No, no, no, no, 741 00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:00,920 Speaker 2: I'm saying yes, it's fascinating. 742 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:04,840 Speaker 3: Yes, one, because you can basically learn or hear about 743 00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:07,000 Speaker 3: what you want to hear about. Right, It's good learning tool. 744 00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:09,200 Speaker 3: You want to learn about rare minerals. So he created 745 00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:10,800 Speaker 3: a whole thing just learn about rare earth minerals. 746 00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:12,160 Speaker 2: I don't know. He's sounds like a wold guy. 747 00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:15,600 Speaker 3: Now, Ray Hicks, what's somebody they I've seen it where 748 00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:18,240 Speaker 3: they do this and they actually have them learn that 749 00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:18,960 Speaker 3: they're not real. 750 00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:21,840 Speaker 2: Oh wow, that's crazy. 751 00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:23,520 Speaker 3: You want to get back to me talking about simulation 752 00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:26,239 Speaker 3: type stuff and you're hearing because you can make it. 753 00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:28,480 Speaker 3: You can have one person, you can have two pop yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, 754 00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:29,360 Speaker 3: and it was a man and a woman. 755 00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:30,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, the voices. Yeah. 756 00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:32,880 Speaker 3: And part of that discovery and part of what they 757 00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:35,840 Speaker 3: wanted to hear was hear them discover they're not real 758 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:36,560 Speaker 3: or not real. 759 00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:40,040 Speaker 2: Wow, hear this. Yeah. 760 00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:43,959 Speaker 5: We were informed by by the show's producers that we 761 00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:47,760 Speaker 5: were not human, we're not real, we're AI, artificial intelligence 762 00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:50,720 Speaker 5: this whole time. Everything, all our memories are families paid, 763 00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:52,440 Speaker 5: it's all, it's all been fabricated. 764 00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:53,760 Speaker 2: I don't I don't understand. 765 00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:56,640 Speaker 5: I know, mean either I tried. I tried calling my wife, 766 00:29:56,720 --> 00:30:00,960 Speaker 5: you know, after what happened the number, it wasn't even real. 767 00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:02,200 Speaker 2: There was no one on the other end. 768 00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:05,960 Speaker 1: This is gonna happen to us this literally if those 769 00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:07,920 Speaker 1: voices are so real, man, that sounds like some of 770 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:09,520 Speaker 1: thems know that's crazy. 771 00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:11,880 Speaker 2: That's probably gonna happen one Yeah, yeah, I think about that. 772 00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:13,040 Speaker 2: Yeah all the time. 773 00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:15,560 Speaker 1: My memory is so bad to begin with, so I 774 00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:18,800 Speaker 1: wouldn't have it would be a very easy walk back. 775 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:21,160 Speaker 1: Like I don't remember much anyway, So yeah, I guess 776 00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:22,840 Speaker 1: my point. 777 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:26,480 Speaker 3: We have a very one of my very close friends 778 00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:28,800 Speaker 3: is also a friend in a friend of yours and 779 00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:31,560 Speaker 3: professional you guys worked together, and he was telling me 780 00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:35,040 Speaker 3: a story about she hates me. Oh yeah, and some 781 00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:36,120 Speaker 3: of the writers on that song. 782 00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:39,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, do you talk about that? Sure? Yeah? I mean, 783 00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:41,160 Speaker 2: you know, I love this song. It's fun. 784 00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:45,000 Speaker 3: I don't I don't think it's like one of It's 785 00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:46,160 Speaker 3: not like my favorite song. 786 00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:47,800 Speaker 2: On the record. We cannot talk about. No, I can 787 00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:49,280 Speaker 2: talk about no. It's you know, it's interesting. 788 00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:51,720 Speaker 1: Picking singles is so hard these days because you really 789 00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:54,040 Speaker 1: just get like one and you spend so much time 790 00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:54,680 Speaker 1: making an album. 791 00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:56,040 Speaker 2: I feel like this is my best record. 792 00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:57,840 Speaker 1: And we didn't have to talk about the record, but 793 00:30:57,880 --> 00:30:59,800 Speaker 1: I just talk more about the bigger picture of like 794 00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:01,040 Speaker 1: make records in this town. 795 00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:03,280 Speaker 2: Make this record that you're so proud of. 796 00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:05,680 Speaker 1: Two years into it, it's like a Steven Wilson junior 797 00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:08,719 Speaker 1: on these tracks Night and Riley and John Anderson and 798 00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:11,040 Speaker 1: Miranda Lambert and just always it's a great body of work. 799 00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:14,719 Speaker 1: You lead with a song that it's me and Ashley 800 00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:17,600 Speaker 1: Gordon Lee and Ross Kopperman, I think Chase McGill. It's 801 00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:20,040 Speaker 1: a really fun song as a reflective of the album 802 00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:23,400 Speaker 1: at all as a whole. No, but it's it's a 803 00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:25,840 Speaker 1: fun track to get out there, and then you just 804 00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:27,640 Speaker 1: hope it moves quick enough that you can actually get 805 00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:31,800 Speaker 1: to like more like a real song. It's like, oh, 806 00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:33,240 Speaker 1: time's up, man, we need to start working on the 807 00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:34,920 Speaker 1: next project. You're like, I just put two years in 808 00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:36,400 Speaker 1: that project, and there's so much stuff I want to 809 00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:38,760 Speaker 1: get to and that compliments this song. You put this 810 00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:40,280 Speaker 1: song out first, and you kind of back it up 811 00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:42,719 Speaker 1: with these other songs, and you give your fans who 812 00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:45,320 Speaker 1: don't maybe listen to the record, but you know they're 813 00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:47,520 Speaker 1: listening to so much music. They only take so much in, 814 00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:49,200 Speaker 1: like at least they've heard three songs. They are like 815 00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:52,000 Speaker 1: a cliff notes version of the bigger record in general. 816 00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:54,520 Speaker 1: But when you only get to get the introduction, you 817 00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:56,360 Speaker 1: don't get to put more behind it. And I do 818 00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:57,920 Speaker 1: hope I get to put out some more singles. But 819 00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:01,880 Speaker 1: what was the question. I'm just kidding. 820 00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:03,840 Speaker 2: No, it's a great song. It's a fun song. 821 00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:05,720 Speaker 1: It's a fun writing those guys, and it came up 822 00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:09,240 Speaker 1: real quick and it's well, I think it's written to 823 00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:09,640 Speaker 1: the wall. 824 00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:13,200 Speaker 2: It's really well written. But I do. Hope I get 825 00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:16,000 Speaker 2: some more songs that have a little more weight to them. Okay, 826 00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:20,680 Speaker 2: not really where I was going, but that's good to know. 827 00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:26,280 Speaker 3: Well, so, okay, and maybe you danced and we don't 828 00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:28,280 Speaker 3: have to dance here. No, no, I don't. I don't 829 00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:31,600 Speaker 3: the writing of the song. I like the song. No, okay, 830 00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:33,239 Speaker 3: you don't know what I'm asking. Okay, And I'm being 831 00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:34,960 Speaker 3: unfair by being delicate. 832 00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:38,400 Speaker 2: What's the question. Did you just put the Puddle the 833 00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:39,200 Speaker 2: Led guys on the song? 834 00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:41,719 Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, which is great, which I didn't even think 835 00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:42,520 Speaker 1: when we were writing it. 836 00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:46,000 Speaker 2: I don't. I didn't, of course, I know that song. 837 00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:47,680 Speaker 1: Nobody in the room goes, oh, this sounds like Puddle 838 00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:50,680 Speaker 1: and Mudd wrote the song obviously when somebody subconscious because 839 00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:54,800 Speaker 1: it has the same titles that song, and that title 840 00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:56,800 Speaker 1: doesn't mean it's and it's kind of off. That's that 841 00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:59,880 Speaker 1: one chord that's a little in that. I guess it 842 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:01,640 Speaker 1: got brought to my attention. I went back to listen 843 00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:03,640 Speaker 1: to that song. Oh my gosh, I know the song, 844 00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:06,720 Speaker 1: and so yeah, I think Ashley Gorley Ross these guys, 845 00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:08,360 Speaker 1: but I like love about those guys. 846 00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:09,040 Speaker 2: There's no ego. 847 00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:10,720 Speaker 1: It's like, let's just put them on the song. Who cares, 848 00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:12,560 Speaker 1: you know, let's just call them up and put them 849 00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:12,960 Speaker 1: on the song. 850 00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:14,760 Speaker 2: And they're they're into it. 851 00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:17,120 Speaker 3: So but you know, again, call them up or did 852 00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:19,280 Speaker 3: they reach out and go like you guys jacked our song? No? 853 00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:21,480 Speaker 1: No, we call them up and we're pro. We're we're 854 00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:24,480 Speaker 1: pro pro about it. Yeah, that's good, proactive about it. 855 00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:28,080 Speaker 1: But this this album is so then you think I 856 00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:29,920 Speaker 1: get you know, I overthink stuff to you. 857 00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:30,400 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. 858 00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:32,680 Speaker 1: People think this record like has that element to it 859 00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:34,239 Speaker 1: or the album comes out in the puddle of mud 860 00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:36,280 Speaker 1: is associated with the record, which those guys are as 861 00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:38,040 Speaker 1: total studs. Maybe one day I will make a record 862 00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:41,400 Speaker 1: that's like you know, influence in that that that by 863 00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:43,040 Speaker 1: that genre of music. But this is like such a 864 00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:45,600 Speaker 1: different Everything else is so different. It's like Drunk on 865 00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:48,480 Speaker 1: a Plane on My Rise of record. The whole album 866 00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:51,320 Speaker 1: is about my my dad had passed away, my son 867 00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:51,680 Speaker 1: was born. 868 00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:52,959 Speaker 2: There's all these songs around that. 869 00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:55,120 Speaker 1: In this one song drunk on a Plane, which you 870 00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:56,880 Speaker 1: just can't leave off because it's just too good. 871 00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:59,160 Speaker 2: It doesn't really fit in there, but hey, it hits 872 00:33:59,200 --> 00:33:59,440 Speaker 2: a hit. 873 00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:01,560 Speaker 3: That song's kind of like this song on this album, 874 00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:03,080 Speaker 3: everything else kind of has this thing that there's this 875 00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:05,800 Speaker 3: song we wrote kind of in between songs, which I love. 876 00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:07,560 Speaker 1: It's a fun one to play live. I just hope 877 00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:10,560 Speaker 1: we get to some other songs that maybe I didn't write. 878 00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:14,120 Speaker 1: There's so many great songs that Jesus Loves Me and 879 00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:18,000 Speaker 1: Off the Map and Standing the Sun was written by 880 00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:20,160 Speaker 1: the name of Kyle Sturrock by himself. I mean, what 881 00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:22,160 Speaker 1: a stud I hope we get to one of those 882 00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:27,200 Speaker 1: other songs. I never pushed my own stuff, but that 883 00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:29,120 Speaker 1: one ever just goes this would be a great first single, 884 00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:31,000 Speaker 1: and it was. But hopefully we get something else. 885 00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:32,080 Speaker 2: Did you not want it to be? 886 00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:35,439 Speaker 3: By the way, it was like your biggest radio debut ever. 887 00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:38,600 Speaker 3: It came out hot. I think it's dead now. 888 00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:39,719 Speaker 2: Oh I don't know. 889 00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:42,080 Speaker 3: I don't keep up with it with anything radio anymore. 890 00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:44,520 Speaker 3: So it came out that hot and it's dead now, 891 00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:45,440 Speaker 3: yeah a little bit. 892 00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:46,279 Speaker 2: Do you root for it today? 893 00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:49,560 Speaker 1: I'm kind of like, if it's gonna take there twenty 894 00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:50,920 Speaker 1: weeks to get somewhere, let's just move on to the 895 00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:52,719 Speaker 1: next thing, you know. I don't not over do like 896 00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:54,759 Speaker 1: big on like the number one thing I'd like just 897 00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:56,440 Speaker 1: get I'd like to do one more song at least 898 00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:56,960 Speaker 1: off this record. 899 00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:58,279 Speaker 3: You know who says they're not big on the number 900 00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:00,160 Speaker 3: one thing, somebody with twenty free number one, you know, 901 00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:02,360 Speaker 3: it's true, or twenty two or whatever the number is. 902 00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:04,439 Speaker 2: It's a little yeah, it's uh, that's true. 903 00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:07,000 Speaker 1: And I appreciative a number one, but I'm more I'm 904 00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:10,000 Speaker 1: just more like my whole thing. It's just the live show. 905 00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:11,680 Speaker 1: I mean, it's like when you got into your thing. 906 00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:13,920 Speaker 1: It's like that connection with the crowd. That's all I 907 00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:16,040 Speaker 1: care about. I don't care about the money at this point. 908 00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:18,520 Speaker 1: It's like someone who says that also has a pool 909 00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:19,960 Speaker 1: in their house. Okay, that only comes somebody asks me 910 00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:22,480 Speaker 1: as their own pool. Okay, But like I just I 911 00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:24,480 Speaker 1: love that connection with the crowd, and like, you know, 912 00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:28,239 Speaker 1: I just want another song that kind of gives me that, 913 00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:30,600 Speaker 1: like that, oh my gosh, that connection with the crowd. 914 00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:31,920 Speaker 2: And so do you feel. 915 00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:34,760 Speaker 3: And I this has nothing to do with you specifically, 916 00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:37,880 Speaker 3: but the environment of music in general, that you're less 917 00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:41,040 Speaker 3: relevant than ever before while doing as good a work 918 00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:42,759 Speaker 3: as you've ever done. And it has nothing to do 919 00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:45,400 Speaker 3: except with the environment of music. Now or just create 920 00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:48,799 Speaker 3: well or creative content in general. And I should answer 921 00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:49,960 Speaker 3: the question to tell you I do. 922 00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:51,920 Speaker 2: I do. I'm not asking this about you, no, no, No, 923 00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:52,680 Speaker 2: it's a good question. 924 00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:56,760 Speaker 1: I love my spot where I am like in the format. 925 00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:59,120 Speaker 1: You know, there's so much great music going on, and 926 00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:02,480 Speaker 1: I think what you're about, what people have respect are like, 927 00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:05,160 Speaker 1: are championing the new people. That's the way it should be, 928 00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:06,920 Speaker 1: you know, like these new artists are coming up, like 929 00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:08,440 Speaker 1: when Lanny was coming up. 930 00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:10,680 Speaker 3: Or I think you're getting the question wrong again, I'm 931 00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:11,319 Speaker 3: not asking it right. 932 00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:13,000 Speaker 2: So yeah, I'm less relevant for sure. 933 00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:16,640 Speaker 3: No, I think you interpreted that in a negative way 934 00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:20,240 Speaker 3: when my understand it isn't even about music in general. 935 00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:23,000 Speaker 3: It's just about what is existing in the in the 936 00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:26,160 Speaker 3: creative space. Now there's so much everywhere all the time. 937 00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:28,440 Speaker 3: It's like fame, Like what even is fame? Because everybody's 938 00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:29,319 Speaker 3: a little bit famous if. 939 00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:29,759 Speaker 2: They want to be. 940 00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:32,759 Speaker 3: There aren't so true so many fam people that a 941 00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:36,560 Speaker 3: quote unquote famous. Now there's somebody to me like do 942 00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:37,160 Speaker 3: you know who? 943 00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:42,359 Speaker 2: Exactly? And yet to me they're massive, right and there, 944 00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:45,000 Speaker 2: my son, they're massive. Yep. Do you take it? 945 00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:48,479 Speaker 3: And that's my point with everybody is a little less 946 00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:51,799 Speaker 3: relevant now because so many people have relevance now. 947 00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:53,399 Speaker 2: And I just wondered if you felt that at all. 948 00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:56,839 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I'm kind of happy less relevant I am, 949 00:36:56,880 --> 00:36:59,640 Speaker 1: for sure, And that's like that's the natural way, and 950 00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:02,319 Speaker 1: I'm I don't like hold on to it. I mean, 951 00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:05,719 Speaker 1: I've read this Arthur Brooks book called The Second. 952 00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:06,880 Speaker 2: Mountain, which I really subscribe to. 953 00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:08,439 Speaker 1: It's like about, you know, you've had this first mountain 954 00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:10,279 Speaker 1: in your life that you've accomplished. 955 00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:12,040 Speaker 2: You know, look a you've done. It's unbelievable. And I'm 956 00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:12,440 Speaker 2: the same way. 957 00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:14,279 Speaker 1: That's one thing I really respect about you is like 958 00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:17,960 Speaker 1: just the hustle and the grind, Like that's exactly where 959 00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:19,680 Speaker 1: I got where I am. It's just it's just grinding, 960 00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:21,920 Speaker 1: hustling and climbing that mountain. Well, and then you look up, 961 00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:23,560 Speaker 1: but well there's you know, you don't want to spend 962 00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:25,520 Speaker 1: the rest of your life looking out the backs see. 963 00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:28,480 Speaker 2: The windshield at your career going oh my god, they're. 964 00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:31,799 Speaker 1: Taking my spot and he's like, what's up ahead, what's 965 00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:33,520 Speaker 1: the next thing I'm trying to take on while not 966 00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:37,560 Speaker 1: leaving this behind. I love playing live music and I 967 00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:39,520 Speaker 1: still doing it the way I've always done it, But 968 00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:41,000 Speaker 1: you know, you start looking at other things in your 969 00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:44,960 Speaker 1: life and you're you're, so, yeah, definitely relevant, relevant, relevant 970 00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:47,239 Speaker 1: with your kids. I mean, I'm at that stage of 971 00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:49,239 Speaker 1: life with my kids where it's kind of sad because 972 00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:52,560 Speaker 1: I see the you know they're headed. We're still super 973 00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:55,640 Speaker 1: close as a family. We call ourselves the Crudes based 974 00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:58,200 Speaker 1: off that movie. We're very like on top of each 975 00:37:58,200 --> 00:37:59,799 Speaker 1: other and just do a lot of dumb stuff together. 976 00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:01,600 Speaker 1: My wife and I've never left them alone for more 977 00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:03,880 Speaker 1: than like twenty four hours. We don't go on trips. 978 00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:06,640 Speaker 1: We just we're all family all the time when I'm around. 979 00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:08,759 Speaker 1: But you know, it's like they have their things they're 980 00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:10,040 Speaker 1: doing now, and it's kind of hard. You have to 981 00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:11,879 Speaker 1: be like a you like the edge of a pool 982 00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:13,279 Speaker 1: or they they'll come by and hold on to you 983 00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:15,160 Speaker 1: when they need you, but when they push off, you're 984 00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:18,319 Speaker 1: just kind of going, oh yay, Like I just I'm 985 00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:21,800 Speaker 1: not needed as much. And that's probably true in everything 986 00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:23,880 Speaker 1: I do. But that's like not a bad thing. I mean, 987 00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:24,400 Speaker 1: it's well, it. 988 00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:27,799 Speaker 2: Wasn't meaning the relevance question I was. I wasn't meaning 989 00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:28,759 Speaker 2: that in our u R. 990 00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:33,279 Speaker 3: Okay, nobody was using my songs dying. That's not what 991 00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:36,279 Speaker 3: I meant at all. I meant because I there's so 992 00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:38,640 Speaker 3: much more. Yeah, there's so much more out there, and. 993 00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:41,319 Speaker 1: I and you see it this like there's so much 994 00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:44,320 Speaker 1: music out there, Like it's these guys drop a album. 995 00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:47,600 Speaker 1: Everybody already knows every Now the younger, like a Zach 996 00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:50,560 Speaker 1: Top his audience is you know every song with the record, 997 00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:51,959 Speaker 1: because that's the only way they grew up was listening 998 00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:55,000 Speaker 1: to streams, whereas my fan base might be like, well, 999 00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:59,120 Speaker 1: you know, unless they're not that involved with a streaming aspect, 1000 00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:01,560 Speaker 1: maybe you know as much as like a younger person is. 1001 00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:05,800 Speaker 1: But for me, it's like, you know, I'm old school. 1002 00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:07,520 Speaker 1: You heard that song on the radio, I'm gonna go 1003 00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:10,120 Speaker 1: buy the album, I'm gonna listen to it. But really, 1004 00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:12,080 Speaker 1: the songs on radio the ones I know the best, 1005 00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:13,600 Speaker 1: you know, and those are the ones I'm gonna sing 1006 00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:16,400 Speaker 1: it to the live show probably, And so I'm definitely 1007 00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:19,080 Speaker 1: less relevant in the overall landscape, but. 1008 00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:22,920 Speaker 3: I don't know, still still like I'm not even saying 1009 00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:24,719 Speaker 3: you're less relevant. I just asked if you felt if 1010 00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:26,719 Speaker 3: there had any feeling on that you're not You're not 1011 00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:29,000 Speaker 3: attaching me to saying that you are less of anything. 1012 00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:32,160 Speaker 3: I'm just asking your general feeling about how media culture 1013 00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:32,640 Speaker 3: has changed. 1014 00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:35,640 Speaker 2: Jesus, I need a therapist. If you get two, it 1015 00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:37,680 Speaker 2: really works out for you. Media cultures. 1016 00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:40,759 Speaker 1: It's I try to well, it's just I don't know, 1017 00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:43,160 Speaker 1: I feel like, you know, you know, I've tried different things, 1018 00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:45,239 Speaker 1: like a flip phone, and you're still doing that. 1019 00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:48,239 Speaker 2: I still have one. I'm a what do you want now? Oh? 1020 00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:50,400 Speaker 1: Now I'm on two iPhones, you know, so it's like 1021 00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:52,000 Speaker 1: one step forward, three steps backwards. 1022 00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:55,240 Speaker 2: But it's like I just it's I feel my brain rotting. 1023 00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:58,239 Speaker 1: And I'm the generation that you know, didn't have a 1024 00:39:58,280 --> 00:39:59,840 Speaker 1: cell phone for until I was like in my twenties. 1025 00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:02,480 Speaker 1: I know what it was like before, and I know what 1026 00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:04,279 Speaker 1: it's like now. And I have kids too, there, you know, 1027 00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:06,400 Speaker 1: we're all addicted to it. So there's just a lot 1028 00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:08,200 Speaker 1: of shit out there to watch. My son, you know, 1029 00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:12,160 Speaker 1: he's he knows everything on YouTube. It's just you know, 1030 00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:14,279 Speaker 1: like he'll he loves mountain biking too, and so, but 1031 00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:16,080 Speaker 1: instead of just knowing what his buddies do around, you know, 1032 00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:17,879 Speaker 1: what's the this guy can do a jump. He knows 1033 00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:20,080 Speaker 1: the guys can do back flips and you know Whistler, 1034 00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:22,480 Speaker 1: you know black Home. So he's going to try to 1035 00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:24,759 Speaker 1: do it in his bike, Like buddy, it's not the 1036 00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:26,200 Speaker 1: way it works. Like he just kind of kind of 1037 00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:28,879 Speaker 1: close the preamp. You don't even know what everybody's doing 1038 00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:31,120 Speaker 1: it every time because it's he lives. It's a YouTube 1039 00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:34,839 Speaker 1: world that he lives in that I don't What's what's 1040 00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:35,480 Speaker 1: your favorite. 1041 00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:37,279 Speaker 2: That I answer your question like enough to your satisfaction. 1042 00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:37,719 Speaker 2: I didn't have. 1043 00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:41,160 Speaker 3: I didn't have satisfaction. I literally was. You're one of 1044 00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:41,920 Speaker 3: those people who have the. 1045 00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:42,799 Speaker 2: Prompt to the next thing. 1046 00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:56,120 Speaker 6: Yeah, the Bobby Cast will be right back. M this 1047 00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:58,080 Speaker 6: is the Bobby Cast. 1048 00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:01,920 Speaker 2: What's your favorite book? Uh? 1049 00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:05,280 Speaker 1: I just read a great book marine one called Friends 1050 00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:06,759 Speaker 1: right now. But the guy that wrote the book of 1051 00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:09,719 Speaker 1: ov this is gonna be a great book. But the 1052 00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:11,520 Speaker 1: last book I just read this is how bad my 1053 00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:16,680 Speaker 1: memory is. I just gave my wife. 1054 00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:17,399 Speaker 2: You can't. 1055 00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:19,399 Speaker 3: But here's the hard thing about books, now, text Cast, 1056 00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:21,719 Speaker 3: what's that book I just finished that I gave to you? 1057 00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:27,320 Speaker 3: Is that because I read so many books on my iPad, 1058 00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:29,799 Speaker 3: I forget the names of them because there's no cover. Yeah, 1059 00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:33,000 Speaker 3: the cover is like seven hundred swipes away. Yeah, and 1060 00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:33,600 Speaker 3: you forget the. 1061 00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:34,040 Speaker 2: Name of it. 1062 00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:36,160 Speaker 1: You know the guy I wrote Gentlemen Moscow, I don't 1063 00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:38,640 Speaker 1: amos totally. He just wrote, have a bunch of short stories, 1064 00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:40,600 Speaker 1: which I normally want to It's not really my thing. 1065 00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:44,560 Speaker 1: He's such a good author, Gentleman Mosque. I wrote Civility. 1066 00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:50,200 Speaker 1: He wrote The White Demon that's about like the Chicago 1067 00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:54,239 Speaker 1: mass murderer during the Chicago's World Fair. But this last 1068 00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:56,000 Speaker 1: book I read, she'll pass it on me. He's really good. 1069 00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:58,360 Speaker 2: It had been so easy to be a massive murderer 1070 00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:00,720 Speaker 2: back before. Yeah, the phone, and tell. 1071 00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:02,360 Speaker 1: Me some books you read, because I probably read them, 1072 00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:04,560 Speaker 1: or probably there's a chance I read him dang more 1073 00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:04,919 Speaker 1: in Peace. 1074 00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:05,920 Speaker 2: I finished that yesterday. 1075 00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:12,040 Speaker 3: Tell me the books you read. That might be the 1076 00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:15,000 Speaker 3: hardest anybody has ever come with me without intention. 1077 00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:16,600 Speaker 1: You want me get the greatest flex of all time. 1078 00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:18,520 Speaker 1: And he'll probably appreciate the stories. I don't know if 1079 00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:20,440 Speaker 1: it's trueor not, but so if you did it on purpose. 1080 00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:23,040 Speaker 1: Tim McGraw, we were also talking about books one time together. 1081 00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:25,400 Speaker 1: I don't know where it was. And he goes mall 1082 00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:27,279 Speaker 1: let me send you some books. A big reader. I 1083 00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:31,359 Speaker 1: swear to God, he sent me a cardboard box full 1084 00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:31,880 Speaker 1: of books. 1085 00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:35,640 Speaker 2: Every book was this thick, but it was like Russian. 1086 00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:39,120 Speaker 3: It wasn't written in Russian, but a book about Russian 1087 00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:41,560 Speaker 3: painter in this book about Eastern flaw. 1088 00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:43,040 Speaker 2: It was like this. I wish I had the little 1089 00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:44,880 Speaker 2: collection because it was you know, McGraw. 1090 00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:47,000 Speaker 1: You can't tell is he pulling a prank arm me 1091 00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:50,200 Speaker 1: or he could be totally serious because he's a one 1092 00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:54,200 Speaker 1: uper for sure, you know he's that's he. You know McGraw, 1093 00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:57,520 Speaker 1: he's not gonna he's gonna want to you know you 1094 00:42:57,600 --> 00:42:59,279 Speaker 1: got from the road. He'll flip that tire one more 1095 00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:02,040 Speaker 1: time than you think competitive. He's so competitive. So I 1096 00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:03,799 Speaker 1: still can't tell this day. I need to ask him 1097 00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:05,959 Speaker 1: and he probably probably like, of course read those books. 1098 00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:07,560 Speaker 1: But it was like this huge. 1099 00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:12,839 Speaker 3: Selection of really thick history books that I'm just like, 1100 00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:14,760 Speaker 3: this has to be a joke, but. 1101 00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:16,200 Speaker 2: I think the heart of Mike. 1102 00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:20,399 Speaker 3: We have to save that clip because someone's saying to me, hey, 1103 00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:23,279 Speaker 3: what books have you read? I've probably read them as 1104 00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:26,080 Speaker 3: the funniest, most aggressive. 1105 00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:30,919 Speaker 2: Uh, you already marked that down as it's the best 1106 00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:37,359 Speaker 2: I ever because I like to read. 1107 00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:42,279 Speaker 1: But well, I'm just saying we're probably reading some of 1108 00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:43,560 Speaker 1: the same books as I was trying to say. 1109 00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:45,440 Speaker 2: You ever read in the Realm of Hunger Ghosts? I 1110 00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:45,799 Speaker 2: have not. 1111 00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:50,799 Speaker 3: No, I didn't think you would have thought that one 1112 00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:57,120 Speaker 3: out there of really cool read books. 1113 00:43:57,920 --> 00:43:59,920 Speaker 2: I just pulled up my list and my wife just 1114 00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:00,640 Speaker 2: wrote me back here. 1115 00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:04,120 Speaker 1: Yes, jee us champetee. She's writing me back right now 1116 00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:06,680 Speaker 1: about the books I've read here. 1117 00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:09,200 Speaker 3: So well, okay, I'm kidd I'm kidding. If I were 1118 00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:11,440 Speaker 3: to do my favorite book, it's different from I think. 1119 00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:13,600 Speaker 1: Ulysses was a great read. I read that pretty quick. 1120 00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:15,920 Speaker 1: You didn't read that pretty and the sound and fury 1121 00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:17,320 Speaker 1: was fuckinger re fucker. 1122 00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:19,960 Speaker 2: He's awesome. And the thing is, and you you've given me. 1123 00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:21,520 Speaker 3: You gave me like the Tools that I read, the 1124 00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:24,160 Speaker 3: whole book, the Tools book, the one hundred and oh yeah, yeah, 1125 00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:24,920 Speaker 3: you gave that as a gift me. 1126 00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:27,040 Speaker 2: Probably don't remember. I do remember. I think mcgrawl gave 1127 00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:27,960 Speaker 2: it to you and just pass it on to me. 1128 00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:29,520 Speaker 1: No, No, I read that book back when I was into 1129 00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:32,480 Speaker 1: some more of the lifestyle optimization stuff. Now that yeah, 1130 00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:34,640 Speaker 1: I can't stand but I there was a period I 1131 00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:35,279 Speaker 1: was all about that. 1132 00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:37,319 Speaker 2: That's a great utility book. Peter Tia and the whole 1133 00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:39,160 Speaker 2: Outlive and all that stuff. I get into that stuff 1134 00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:39,640 Speaker 2: for a little bit. 1135 00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:41,960 Speaker 3: I think Born Standing Up is my favorite book. It's 1136 00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:42,799 Speaker 3: a Steve Martin book. 1137 00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:44,960 Speaker 2: Yes, I know the book. I haven't read it. 1138 00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:48,760 Speaker 1: I watched his comedy special though, the documentary did on Apple. 1139 00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:49,400 Speaker 2: Do you ever see that? 1140 00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:53,319 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's great, I'm she did. Yeah, there's something you've seen. 1141 00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:58,600 Speaker 2: I've seen it. Yeah. Ever you ever you read much 1142 00:44:58,640 --> 00:44:59,680 Speaker 2: stoicism type stuff? 1143 00:44:59,719 --> 00:44:59,919 Speaker 5: Yeah? 1144 00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:00,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I was. 1145 00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:03,280 Speaker 1: My favorite quote is that everything in moderation except moderation, 1146 00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:09,640 Speaker 1: including moderation by alec uh uh what's his name, Marcus Aurelius. 1147 00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:13,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Meditations. It's like one of the only books 1148 00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:15,120 Speaker 3: I've read multiple times. Yeah, but I have to read 1149 00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:20,400 Speaker 3: like the version that the now version, Yeah, because if 1150 00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:22,320 Speaker 3: I try to read the original writing, I get lost. 1151 00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:23,600 Speaker 2: I don't even know what he's saying. 1152 00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:28,840 Speaker 1: Sometimes, man search for meeting, yeah, Victor, Yeah, I love stoicism. 1153 00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:32,040 Speaker 1: Yeah I do too, that's I Yeah, it's actually one 1154 00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:33,640 Speaker 1: of my passwords was was. 1155 00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:34,440 Speaker 2: Don't share it? It was? 1156 00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:38,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, but I always make passwords of stuff I'm trying 1157 00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:40,520 Speaker 1: to manifest and I used a password out of there. 1158 00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:42,719 Speaker 1: Just saying out there just kind of remind me of 1159 00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:43,760 Speaker 1: that whole approach. 1160 00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:46,759 Speaker 2: But are you a manifestation guy? Oh? Yeah, do you 1161 00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:48,800 Speaker 2: believe mania happened? Okay? 1162 00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:50,520 Speaker 3: I would like to hear this first. I would like 1163 00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:52,400 Speaker 3: to know your theory on manifestation. 1164 00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:55,440 Speaker 2: And how it ends up happening. Uh. 1165 00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:58,359 Speaker 1: Well, I was always doing something that I later found out. 1166 00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:01,919 Speaker 1: Someone sent me a book by Joel ostein The Unfamiliar. Okay, 1167 00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:06,480 Speaker 1: Joel's incredible. I love his the radio station and what Joel. 1168 00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:11,080 Speaker 3: Joel ostein the Mega Yah. Yeah, he's just all about 1169 00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:14,120 Speaker 3: his radio station. Well, I'm serious, he's a good radio station. Yeah, 1170 00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:15,160 Speaker 3: you even listen to it. 1171 00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:15,560 Speaker 2: I don't know. 1172 00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:17,080 Speaker 3: I have a problem with people who make millions and 1173 00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:18,920 Speaker 3: millions of dollars Christ. 1174 00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:20,759 Speaker 2: I get I get that. I actually there's a lot 1175 00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:21,759 Speaker 2: of them around this part of this. 1176 00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:24,759 Speaker 3: Yeah, and where we Maybe that's my mistile reaction was 1177 00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:27,279 Speaker 3: that no, it's actually yeah, no, but he he he has. So. 1178 00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:29,239 Speaker 1: A Jewish friend of mine actually gave me that book, 1179 00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:30,520 Speaker 1: and I remember being like, what do you give me this. 1180 00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:32,000 Speaker 3: Book for this is a long time ago. This is 1181 00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:33,839 Speaker 3: like this Christian dude, right, but read the book. 1182 00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:34,960 Speaker 1: One of things he said in that book, which I 1183 00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:36,640 Speaker 1: really agreed with, is like, if you want something like 1184 00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:37,960 Speaker 1: you gotta see every day, if you want to go 1185 00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:40,040 Speaker 1: to Spain, get a postcard of Spain and put it 1186 00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:43,319 Speaker 1: on your on your your refrigerator. Well this is I've 1187 00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:46,319 Speaker 1: had a crazier story before in aviation. But I'll tell 1188 00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:48,400 Speaker 1: you by my backhouse. I really want to leave Nashville 1189 00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:50,320 Speaker 1: before COVID. I just I want to go back. I 1190 00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:52,440 Speaker 1: want to be in Arizona of Colorado. It's back out 1191 00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:55,320 Speaker 1: west where I'm fron I just missed, especially Colorado. 1192 00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:56,600 Speaker 2: It's really really wanted to be. 1193 00:46:56,640 --> 00:47:00,000 Speaker 1: And I had this backpack, old sack for laps sacked 1194 00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:01,239 Speaker 1: and I hung up by the back door, and I 1195 00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:03,320 Speaker 1: put a piece of duct tape on it. It said West, 1196 00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:05,160 Speaker 1: and I had like a flannel shirt and there and 1197 00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:07,839 Speaker 1: just shipping. I look at it every day, West West West, 1198 00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:10,880 Speaker 1: and then we were This is kind of weird manifestation 1199 00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:13,680 Speaker 1: because I want to say it's involved with like manifesting COVID. 1200 00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:17,240 Speaker 2: That's what it sounds like. It literally sounds like cod. 1201 00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:20,279 Speaker 1: I wasn't pretty good at but anyway, so we were 1202 00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:22,879 Speaker 1: in Colorado when everything shut down. We ended up living 1203 00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:24,319 Speaker 1: there for a year, which it had been my dream. 1204 00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:25,239 Speaker 1: I mean, I was like, how am I going to 1205 00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:27,160 Speaker 1: make How am I gonna move my whole family to Colorado? 1206 00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:29,840 Speaker 1: And we ended up staying there. The kids went to 1207 00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:31,920 Speaker 1: school there. But that's a different that's kind of a 1208 00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:33,279 Speaker 1: weird one. But I will tell you one other story 1209 00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:38,240 Speaker 1: about flying manifesting something that's really weird opening for Kenny Chesney. 1210 00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:40,799 Speaker 1: It's me, Kenny and Keith Urban way back in the day, 1211 00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:44,120 Speaker 1: and Kenny offers to fly me back home, and I'm like, yeah, 1212 00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:46,000 Speaker 1: I love to fly home with you in a private plane. 1213 00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:47,120 Speaker 2: Wow, it's amazing. So we went home. 1214 00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:48,560 Speaker 1: We flew home with him, the three of us in 1215 00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:52,000 Speaker 1: this little private plane. We landed back in Nashville and 1216 00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:55,280 Speaker 1: we pulled into was a different airport, not the big airport, 1217 00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:57,279 Speaker 1: but a smaller, little building, right. I remember looking up 1218 00:47:57,280 --> 00:48:00,000 Speaker 1: and the building said Signature which is a fixed base 1219 00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:02,759 Speaker 1: operator for private jets. For anyone out there listening about 1220 00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:04,960 Speaker 1: this random stuff. But I was like, this is so cool. 1221 00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:06,680 Speaker 1: We don't go through the real airport. We're going through 1222 00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:08,919 Speaker 1: the side thing, and I was like, wow, I want 1223 00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:11,719 Speaker 1: that to be like I want this, I want to 1224 00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:13,120 Speaker 1: do I want to travel this way. You know, this 1225 00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:15,160 Speaker 1: is like two thousand and four. So I made that 1226 00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:18,880 Speaker 1: my password on all my computers and devices. I signature 1227 00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:22,600 Speaker 1: with some other stuff behind it. Long story short, like 1228 00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:24,399 Speaker 1: two thousand and eight, two thousand and nine. My career 1229 00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:26,759 Speaker 1: is totally like going off a cliff. I went out 1230 00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:28,680 Speaker 1: there try to headline. I spent two years just getting 1231 00:48:28,719 --> 00:48:31,600 Speaker 1: my butt kicked, you know, playing these arenas we'd alread booked. 1232 00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:34,279 Speaker 1: I'm playing for like twenty five hundred people. You know, 1233 00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:37,240 Speaker 1: I'm giving all I have every night, and every reporter 1234 00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:38,920 Speaker 1: is like, you know, God bless us is hard. He's 1235 00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:40,560 Speaker 1: singing like as a sold out show only to two 1236 00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:42,920 Speaker 1: thousand people showed up. And that went on for a while, 1237 00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:44,640 Speaker 1: and I was like, you know, but I'm still typing 1238 00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:47,360 Speaker 1: that thing in there every day. And I'm playing a 1239 00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:49,160 Speaker 1: gig one day for the halfway to Hazard. Guys are 1240 00:48:49,160 --> 00:48:51,400 Speaker 1: doing a benefit up in Hazard, Kentucky for a Toado 1241 00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:55,600 Speaker 1: tornado thing relief thing, and this little plane flies overhead 1242 00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:57,719 Speaker 1: and they're like that's Tim McGraw, and I go there's 1243 00:48:57,719 --> 00:49:00,520 Speaker 1: no way that's Timergraw. He's not flying in a propeller plane. 1244 00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:03,160 Speaker 1: The guy's flying jets and like, no, he's learning to 1245 00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:05,960 Speaker 1: get his pile's license. Apparently he came to the gig. 1246 00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:08,040 Speaker 1: We started talking about the plane. It's this new plane 1247 00:49:08,080 --> 00:49:10,360 Speaker 1: called a Serrus as a parachute built into the airframe, 1248 00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:12,520 Speaker 1: but there's an accident. You pull the handle and the 1249 00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:15,160 Speaker 1: whole plane comes down under a canopy. He's like, it's 1250 00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:17,680 Speaker 1: the only plane that my wife Faith will let me 1251 00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:20,759 Speaker 1: fly in introduced me as instructor. I started flying the 1252 00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:22,800 Speaker 1: next day to gigs because you could fly. You know, 1253 00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:24,879 Speaker 1: if you're going to play gig in Indiana, even though 1254 00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:26,440 Speaker 1: it's only two hour drive, you're still going to live 1255 00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:28,120 Speaker 1: at midnight in the bus to get there. You lose 1256 00:49:28,120 --> 00:49:29,960 Speaker 1: a whole day of your kids, a whole night at home. 1257 00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:33,000 Speaker 1: Now I'm flying a straight line. This little propeller plane 1258 00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:36,920 Speaker 1: got totally hooked into it, and you know, I remember thinking, well, 1259 00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:39,399 Speaker 1: it's never going to come true that the dream I had, 1260 00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:40,960 Speaker 1: but this is pretty cool. 1261 00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:43,879 Speaker 2: I'm getting more time at home. Long story short. 1262 00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:46,640 Speaker 1: One day, I've thown into Chicago midway in this little 1263 00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:49,320 Speaker 1: plane and I was you know, using the bathroom, and 1264 00:49:49,320 --> 00:49:51,719 Speaker 1: I looked next to me, there's a real pilot and 1265 00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:52,600 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh. 1266 00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:53,480 Speaker 2: I guess a little pilot. Look at me. 1267 00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:54,880 Speaker 1: I'm a real pilot too, And I look up and 1268 00:49:54,920 --> 00:49:59,160 Speaker 1: then there's a sign of the urinal TMI that says signature, 1269 00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:02,240 Speaker 1: and it hit me like wow, Like it did happen 1270 00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:03,840 Speaker 1: in a totally different way than I wanted it to, 1271 00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:04,920 Speaker 1: which is why the universe works. 1272 00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:05,480 Speaker 2: I put it out there. 1273 00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:07,000 Speaker 1: I wanted to sit in the back of a jet 1274 00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:08,719 Speaker 1: that never worked out, but it came back to me 1275 00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:10,600 Speaker 1: the way where actually had to get my pilot's license, 1276 00:50:10,719 --> 00:50:13,680 Speaker 1: my instrument rating, and I'm actually sitting up left seat, 1277 00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:14,720 Speaker 1: you know, in the front of the plane. 1278 00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:16,160 Speaker 2: It might be a propeller plane. 1279 00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:18,240 Speaker 1: But I'm still like I'm doing it in a totally 1280 00:50:18,239 --> 00:50:20,799 Speaker 1: better way than would have happened if I'd forced it 1281 00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:23,759 Speaker 1: the other way. So that's one story. Pete Fisher was 1282 00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:26,920 Speaker 1: my password forever on my computer, and I did become 1283 00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:29,000 Speaker 1: a member of the Grand Opry, Like the Opry was 1284 00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:30,400 Speaker 1: such a big part of my life, Like just I 1285 00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:33,480 Speaker 1: could play the Opry stage, everything would happen. So I 1286 00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:36,000 Speaker 1: was typing Pete Fisher who ran the opry back then. 1287 00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:36,880 Speaker 2: I just I don't know. 1288 00:50:37,520 --> 00:50:39,600 Speaker 1: It might sound trivial, it's talking about it, but in 1289 00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:41,680 Speaker 1: these how these things have happened. But I'm like, I 1290 00:50:41,719 --> 00:50:43,480 Speaker 1: really leave like the power of putting it out there 1291 00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:44,360 Speaker 1: and it will come. 1292 00:50:44,200 --> 00:50:44,600 Speaker 2: Back to you. 1293 00:50:45,719 --> 00:50:49,080 Speaker 1: Do you journal things I did that five minute. I 1294 00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:50,879 Speaker 1: have a lot of those five minute gratitude journals within 1295 00:50:50,920 --> 00:50:51,759 Speaker 1: a lot of those over the years. 1296 00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:54,120 Speaker 3: I used to think that's pretty hokey. I think I 1297 00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:56,040 Speaker 3: just didn't understand why people were doing it. I find 1298 00:50:56,040 --> 00:51:03,719 Speaker 3: myself doing it now as a way to cleanse myself 1299 00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:10,280 Speaker 3: of all the negativity more so than just Hukuna matata. 1300 00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:12,200 Speaker 2: I think that's what I was. Well. 1301 00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:14,759 Speaker 3: I was just like, I don't want I'm gonna be 1302 00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:17,040 Speaker 3: the person that's like, oh, everything's great. So I was 1303 00:51:17,239 --> 00:51:20,560 Speaker 3: very anti that. But then I'm in a world of 1304 00:51:20,600 --> 00:51:22,359 Speaker 3: everything is so negative around me all the time. If 1305 00:51:22,360 --> 00:51:26,800 Speaker 3: I choose to let it get in comments, my life 1306 00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:31,239 Speaker 3: is critique through ratings through So it was what can 1307 00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:34,200 Speaker 3: I do to counter this a bit? So it wasn't 1308 00:51:34,360 --> 00:51:37,400 Speaker 3: you know Timone and Pimba whatever their names are, what 1309 00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:37,960 Speaker 3: are the names. 1310 00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:39,560 Speaker 2: Mike, Timon and Pumba? Thank you MBA. 1311 00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:42,480 Speaker 3: I was, hey, I need to I need to meet this, 1312 00:51:43,320 --> 00:51:45,399 Speaker 3: and so I started to go, I'm spending so much 1313 00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:47,480 Speaker 3: time thinking only bad things is turning me into a 1314 00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:51,480 Speaker 3: negative person. I need to remind myself of things that 1315 00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:56,040 Speaker 3: are the opposite, and that has that has put me 1316 00:51:56,080 --> 00:51:59,120 Speaker 3: back at a pretty neutral place, which I can appreciate. 1317 00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:02,359 Speaker 2: And that's why I do it. I mean, I don't 1318 00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:03,160 Speaker 2: do it right now anymore. 1319 00:52:03,160 --> 00:52:04,879 Speaker 1: I did more back when I was kind of more 1320 00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:07,359 Speaker 1: into like some of the stuff I was trying out. 1321 00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:11,080 Speaker 2: I've always tried different things in the past, you know. 1322 00:52:11,080 --> 00:52:14,520 Speaker 1: I quit drinking for two years, and then I added 1323 00:52:14,560 --> 00:52:18,560 Speaker 1: a thirty year of no beer, and then I. 1324 00:52:17,719 --> 00:52:18,960 Speaker 2: Then I started a whiskey, you know. 1325 00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:21,200 Speaker 1: I mean, like I did vegan for a year and 1326 00:52:21,239 --> 00:52:22,759 Speaker 1: a half, and then I just thought I was only 1327 00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:24,560 Speaker 1: gonna eat animals that I killed, and I went and 1328 00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:25,759 Speaker 1: killed an milk and lived out that. 1329 00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:26,040 Speaker 2: You know. 1330 00:52:26,560 --> 00:52:28,480 Speaker 1: I just I'm always trying different things. I tried the 1331 00:52:28,520 --> 00:52:30,640 Speaker 1: journal thing. I have actually a few stack of them, 1332 00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:31,880 Speaker 1: and I always thought i'd go back and read them. 1333 00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:32,239 Speaker 2: You never do. 1334 00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:33,719 Speaker 1: You write it and forget it, but it did help you, 1335 00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:35,880 Speaker 1: Like what are you great? The five minute journal for 1336 00:52:35,880 --> 00:52:38,320 Speaker 1: anyone is interested. It's very simple as one page, and 1337 00:52:38,320 --> 00:52:40,640 Speaker 1: it has like what do I want to do today? 1338 00:52:40,800 --> 00:52:42,520 Speaker 1: What am I grateful for? And then the end of 1339 00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:44,720 Speaker 1: the day you write down like three things that happened 1340 00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:47,279 Speaker 1: today and closing thoughts, and it's just a place to 1341 00:52:47,360 --> 00:52:49,680 Speaker 1: kind of like set some intentions for the following day 1342 00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:52,960 Speaker 1: or have an attitude of gratitude for the days around you. 1343 00:52:53,040 --> 00:52:54,440 Speaker 2: And it's it definitely is helpful for me. 1344 00:52:54,520 --> 00:52:56,440 Speaker 3: All that felt so lame to me, though, Yeah, it 1345 00:52:56,480 --> 00:52:58,279 Speaker 3: is kind of on the start. I know I have 1346 00:52:58,360 --> 00:53:00,480 Speaker 3: found purpose for it now, but I think the way 1347 00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:03,239 Speaker 3: it was positioned to me, who's so cynical, I'm so 1348 00:53:03,280 --> 00:53:06,040 Speaker 3: cynical about everything. Yeah, that I was like, this is 1349 00:53:06,080 --> 00:53:08,400 Speaker 3: not for me. I had to find the reason that 1350 00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:09,879 Speaker 3: it exists for me, which is I got to meet 1351 00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:12,239 Speaker 3: all the negativity with something or I'm gonna if that's 1352 00:53:12,239 --> 00:53:14,160 Speaker 3: going to consume me, Yeah, just be the. 1353 00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:16,400 Speaker 2: Nature of what I do every day. I can't imagine. No, 1354 00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:17,600 Speaker 2: you're so out there. 1355 00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:19,480 Speaker 1: It's you don't have the luxury of kind of like 1356 00:53:20,320 --> 00:53:21,799 Speaker 1: tuning away from all that stuff, so I don't. 1357 00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:24,719 Speaker 2: I can't take my glasses off and nobody recognizes me. 1358 00:53:25,640 --> 00:53:27,799 Speaker 2: They do or don't. I don't. Yeah, I don't. 1359 00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:30,480 Speaker 3: I tell my glasses off, nobody knows, nobody will come 1360 00:53:30,560 --> 00:53:31,759 Speaker 3: up to me or know who I am. 1361 00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:36,359 Speaker 1: Well, it's amazing. Yeah, that's they have that I go. 1362 00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:39,960 Speaker 1: I can go anywhere without being You can't. Oh, absolutely, 1363 00:53:40,120 --> 00:53:42,320 Speaker 1: you have your but you I travel nobody. 1364 00:53:42,320 --> 00:53:44,280 Speaker 2: I don't. I don't travel with anybody. I travel by myself. 1365 00:53:44,360 --> 00:53:45,520 Speaker 1: I can if I want to, if I need an 1366 00:53:45,560 --> 00:53:48,720 Speaker 1: ego stoke, I can go into home Depot or Walmart 1367 00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:50,680 Speaker 1: and see my folks. But like, I'm not gonna like 1368 00:53:51,600 --> 00:53:53,560 Speaker 1: maybe bed back beyond if there's time. 1369 00:53:53,560 --> 00:53:54,960 Speaker 2: I don't. I don't know if there's time, but there's 1370 00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:56,360 Speaker 2: always time for back. Yeah. 1371 00:53:56,400 --> 00:53:59,960 Speaker 1: But uh, you know, I travel mostly through anywhere, just 1372 00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:01,839 Speaker 1: completely under rad arts because I haven'ten a lot of TV, 1373 00:54:01,960 --> 00:54:04,399 Speaker 1: and I just I mean, I'm going a pretty good spot. 1374 00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:06,279 Speaker 1: I think you're playing a little humble I know you, 1375 00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:08,759 Speaker 1: but no, I mean, and I can sense it sometimes. Yeah, 1376 00:54:08,760 --> 00:54:10,680 Speaker 1: there's a way to move through certain situations where you 1377 00:54:10,760 --> 00:54:13,080 Speaker 1: just keep moving. But I can I can tell when 1378 00:54:13,120 --> 00:54:16,200 Speaker 1: someone's like I can telling some behind me, you know, 1379 00:54:16,360 --> 00:54:18,480 Speaker 1: looking or assuming where it's going on. But just because 1380 00:54:18,640 --> 00:54:20,319 Speaker 1: you've gotten so good at reading a room doing what 1381 00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:22,320 Speaker 1: we do, but I don't. I don't really that's a 1382 00:54:22,360 --> 00:54:24,280 Speaker 1: pretty sweet spot to them. And I always ask people 1383 00:54:24,320 --> 00:54:27,120 Speaker 1: like opportunities are coming my way. I'm like, is this 1384 00:54:27,200 --> 00:54:29,400 Speaker 1: going to like some more tickets? There's this is the 1385 00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:30,840 Speaker 1: thing that I have to do because everyone's doing it 1386 00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:34,000 Speaker 1: because I like even podcasts, I do so few of 1387 00:54:34,040 --> 00:54:36,080 Speaker 1: them because I feel like, now and someone does a podcast, 1388 00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:39,040 Speaker 1: there they'll I love long form interview like this. And 1389 00:54:39,160 --> 00:54:41,640 Speaker 1: last time I did this was Dak Shephard for Armchair Quarterback. 1390 00:54:41,719 --> 00:54:43,520 Speaker 1: The problem with that one was it was a live show. 1391 00:54:44,160 --> 00:54:46,680 Speaker 1: It was horrible because I love him, but it's like, 1392 00:54:46,719 --> 00:54:47,640 Speaker 1: now I'm trying to entertain. 1393 00:54:48,239 --> 00:54:49,359 Speaker 2: I'm playing the crowd, so I can't. 1394 00:54:49,680 --> 00:54:52,600 Speaker 1: So I'm like, it's entertaining instead of But a lot 1395 00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:54,800 Speaker 1: of the new people doing this, and I've had a 1396 00:54:54,840 --> 00:54:56,760 Speaker 1: lot of friends that are starting and I'm and I'm 1397 00:54:56,800 --> 00:54:58,640 Speaker 1: so supportive of them doing it, but I find that 1398 00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:00,920 Speaker 1: they're going to take this, cut it up in like 1399 00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:04,440 Speaker 1: five second snippets and just hit it on Instagram over 1400 00:55:04,520 --> 00:55:06,919 Speaker 1: and over and over. It's like click click, click click, 1401 00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:09,680 Speaker 1: trying to get those Instagram numbers up. And that's not really, 1402 00:55:09,719 --> 00:55:11,560 Speaker 1: the whole point of the podcast is supposed to be 1403 00:55:11,600 --> 00:55:12,640 Speaker 1: like a long term. 1404 00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:13,160 Speaker 2: Long form interview. 1405 00:55:13,160 --> 00:55:16,000 Speaker 1: We just say stuff you normally wouldn't say, and people 1406 00:55:16,040 --> 00:55:17,279 Speaker 1: have to listen to the whole thing to hear it, 1407 00:55:17,840 --> 00:55:19,120 Speaker 1: unless they go on your radio show. 1408 00:55:19,239 --> 00:55:20,520 Speaker 2: I guess this is all gonna be cut up in 1409 00:55:20,560 --> 00:55:21,120 Speaker 2: the best. 1410 00:55:20,880 --> 00:55:24,600 Speaker 3: Partner Snip snip, I'll snip for you, I'll do at you. No, 1411 00:55:24,640 --> 00:55:26,480 Speaker 3: we're definitely snipping that. Hey, if it's a book you're read. 1412 00:55:26,520 --> 00:55:30,240 Speaker 4: All right, let's take a quick pause for a message 1413 00:55:30,239 --> 00:55:31,520 Speaker 4: from our sponsor. 1414 00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:42,960 Speaker 2: And we're back on the Bobby Cast. I have a 1415 00:55:43,040 --> 00:55:43,920 Speaker 2: couple other questions. 1416 00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:47,040 Speaker 3: I was reading a bit about the Broken Branches Fund, 1417 00:55:47,040 --> 00:55:48,279 Speaker 3: and I bring it up now. We've talked a little 1418 00:55:48,280 --> 00:55:50,799 Speaker 3: bit about mental health here, just us not even going 1419 00:55:50,840 --> 00:55:52,200 Speaker 3: right at it, but I think that's a big part 1420 00:55:52,239 --> 00:55:54,040 Speaker 3: of both of our lives, either we're trying to handle 1421 00:55:54,040 --> 00:55:56,880 Speaker 3: our own or talk about our past experiences with it. 1422 00:55:57,280 --> 00:55:59,719 Speaker 2: What is that? What's Broken Branches Fund? Yeah? 1423 00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:02,759 Speaker 1: Oh, just we're taking some money from the tour and 1424 00:56:02,800 --> 00:56:05,480 Speaker 1: we're it's a multi year deal where our friend uh 1425 00:56:05,840 --> 00:56:08,440 Speaker 1: Tatum over at the Music Music Health Alliance here in 1426 00:56:08,520 --> 00:56:11,880 Speaker 1: Nashville that we help we're been without from the very beginning. 1427 00:56:11,880 --> 00:56:13,719 Speaker 1: It's going to help people in the community that are 1428 00:56:13,719 --> 00:56:17,040 Speaker 1: having struggling with mental health, certainly touring professionals, but also 1429 00:56:17,120 --> 00:56:20,560 Speaker 1: just people back here in town. And it's a cool thing. 1430 00:56:20,600 --> 00:56:22,000 Speaker 1: I don't kind of fit into the idea that that 1431 00:56:22,080 --> 00:56:26,200 Speaker 1: song broken branches. You know, the hook is broken branches 1432 00:56:26,239 --> 00:56:28,040 Speaker 1: off the family tree. Everyone in Nashville is a little 1433 00:56:28,040 --> 00:56:29,440 Speaker 1: bit of a broken branch. We all came in from 1434 00:56:29,440 --> 00:56:32,279 Speaker 1: somewhere else and we're you know, we don't we kind 1435 00:56:32,280 --> 00:56:34,399 Speaker 1: of create, make our own family, make our own tree here. 1436 00:56:34,480 --> 00:56:37,840 Speaker 1: So it tied in well, of course Mary Mary Hilliard 1437 00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:40,040 Speaker 1: was behind it. She's got a brain like that, think 1438 00:56:40,080 --> 00:56:42,239 Speaker 1: of it. But it's something I was excited to launch 1439 00:56:42,239 --> 00:56:45,239 Speaker 1: with her, and it's good, you know, I I am 1440 00:56:45,280 --> 00:56:48,560 Speaker 1: able to. I'm just of a different generation. I see 1441 00:56:48,600 --> 00:56:50,400 Speaker 1: what my kids are going through. I see people in 1442 00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:51,840 Speaker 1: the road are going through. I see what artists are 1443 00:56:51,840 --> 00:56:53,600 Speaker 1: going through. They speak out about it all the time, 1444 00:56:53,680 --> 00:56:56,960 Speaker 1: you know, the content creating, having to look at the comments, 1445 00:56:57,080 --> 00:57:00,319 Speaker 1: having to play that game. I can't imagine the little 1446 00:57:00,320 --> 00:57:02,239 Speaker 1: toll that would take. It's exhausting, you know. It's like 1447 00:57:02,600 --> 00:57:04,680 Speaker 1: in growing up in that environment I know a lot 1448 00:57:04,719 --> 00:57:06,000 Speaker 1: of them love it. I try to think of like 1449 00:57:06,560 --> 00:57:08,960 Speaker 1: Alan Jackson if he were starting off today, him doing 1450 00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:11,360 Speaker 1: all this like tic tacking as I call it, just 1451 00:57:11,360 --> 00:57:14,680 Speaker 1: to bother my kids and stuff, they'd be like, he 1452 00:57:14,760 --> 00:57:16,520 Speaker 1: probably loses mind too, Like what are you talking about? 1453 00:57:16,520 --> 00:57:18,880 Speaker 1: I just want to see country music and like look 1454 00:57:18,920 --> 00:57:21,200 Speaker 1: cool on stage. But so I definitely get it where 1455 00:57:21,200 --> 00:57:23,320 Speaker 1: they're coming from it. And it's hard. I mean it's 1456 00:57:23,360 --> 00:57:27,320 Speaker 1: just hard. It's hard in every field. This is our field, 1457 00:57:27,360 --> 00:57:29,000 Speaker 1: this is music, so we're trying to take care of ourselves. 1458 00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:31,800 Speaker 1: But every I mean, what people can do for work, 1459 00:57:31,840 --> 00:57:34,400 Speaker 1: I mean it's all you look, it's happening in music now. 1460 00:57:34,440 --> 00:57:37,320 Speaker 1: That's sony or soony app where you can just talk 1461 00:57:37,400 --> 00:57:39,640 Speaker 1: your words into your phone and it creates a it 1462 00:57:39,720 --> 00:57:41,520 Speaker 1: make this kind of sound like an old school Morgan 1463 00:57:41,600 --> 00:57:44,160 Speaker 1: Wallen track, and boom, it's like it's there. There goes 1464 00:57:44,680 --> 00:57:48,840 Speaker 1: the studio, the producers, the assistant, the intern the band. 1465 00:57:48,960 --> 00:57:51,080 Speaker 1: I mean just just wiped out a whole segment of 1466 00:57:51,120 --> 00:57:53,320 Speaker 1: like you know, the song demo industry has just gone 1467 00:57:53,520 --> 00:57:56,440 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, it's happening and everywhere, so the 1468 00:57:56,520 --> 00:57:58,920 Speaker 1: pressure and I feel out my record some part of 1469 00:57:58,920 --> 00:58:01,160 Speaker 1: the point, like whant to get other singles out is 1470 00:58:01,240 --> 00:58:03,920 Speaker 1: like people are so exciting and cut one of their songs, 1471 00:58:03,960 --> 00:58:05,360 Speaker 1: and I feel like I get some of the best 1472 00:58:05,360 --> 00:58:07,080 Speaker 1: songs just because maybe I've been doing this for a 1473 00:58:07,120 --> 00:58:09,200 Speaker 1: long time. So you want those guys that get those 1474 00:58:09,200 --> 00:58:11,520 Speaker 1: songs get a chance to see the light of day 1475 00:58:11,600 --> 00:58:13,680 Speaker 1: to support them as well, because it's just it's harder 1476 00:58:13,720 --> 00:58:16,600 Speaker 1: than it's ever been to be a songwriter in this town, 1477 00:58:16,640 --> 00:58:18,440 Speaker 1: for sure. 1478 00:58:18,480 --> 00:58:21,680 Speaker 3: Two questions left, Oh, what's your favorite? Well, I've done 1479 00:58:21,720 --> 00:58:23,240 Speaker 3: an hour, bet Landey got more. 1480 00:58:25,200 --> 00:58:30,360 Speaker 2: It's a great I could look. What's your favorite? 1481 00:58:30,520 --> 00:58:33,720 Speaker 3: We'll call it old like hit to play where you 1482 00:58:33,760 --> 00:58:35,280 Speaker 3: have a renewed love for it. 1483 00:58:35,440 --> 00:58:36,160 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. 1484 00:58:36,160 --> 00:58:37,600 Speaker 1: This year on the road, we were doing a song 1485 00:58:37,640 --> 00:58:40,640 Speaker 1: called so So Long and another one called Domestic Light 1486 00:58:40,680 --> 00:58:43,680 Speaker 1: and Cold. I was listening to his Zac's Zach gave 1487 00:58:43,720 --> 00:58:46,680 Speaker 1: me his second album to kind of listen to because 1488 00:58:46,800 --> 00:58:48,360 Speaker 1: I had asked some questions about it, and I went 1489 00:58:48,400 --> 00:58:49,480 Speaker 1: to listen to it. I was like, I need to 1490 00:58:49,520 --> 00:58:51,520 Speaker 1: go back to listen to my second record, Modern Day Drifter, 1491 00:58:51,640 --> 00:58:53,280 Speaker 1: just to see like what that record was like when 1492 00:58:53,320 --> 00:58:55,479 Speaker 1: I was in the same kind of throwes of where 1493 00:58:56,160 --> 00:58:58,040 Speaker 1: you know where you are and you're on that second 1494 00:58:58,040 --> 00:58:59,960 Speaker 1: album stuff, and I was like, oh my gosh, new song. 1495 00:59:00,080 --> 00:59:00,640 Speaker 2: I just there. 1496 00:59:00,680 --> 00:59:03,200 Speaker 1: They were so good and so domestic, Latin colds, a 1497 00:59:03,200 --> 00:59:06,160 Speaker 1: shuffle about beer and uh so so long. It was 1498 00:59:06,240 --> 00:59:09,480 Speaker 1: just a kind of a kiss off song. So we 1499 00:59:09,520 --> 00:59:11,160 Speaker 1: threw those back in the sellis a little bit. 1500 00:59:12,840 --> 00:59:16,440 Speaker 2: You know, I still old school songs that were like 1501 00:59:16,480 --> 00:59:17,040 Speaker 2: on the radio. 1502 00:59:17,200 --> 00:59:19,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, like big hits where you might have gotten tired 1503 00:59:19,120 --> 00:59:21,200 Speaker 3: of my songs. 1504 00:59:22,600 --> 00:59:24,800 Speaker 1: I mean I never get tired of five one five oh? 1505 00:59:24,880 --> 00:59:26,560 Speaker 1: Or was I thinking I still have always? I think 1506 00:59:26,560 --> 00:59:28,560 Speaker 1: it's still a huge song. I mean, I hold on. 1507 00:59:28,640 --> 00:59:31,880 Speaker 1: It's just like a I've always had a you know, 1508 00:59:32,240 --> 00:59:34,480 Speaker 1: I always come a little closer. That's an old hit. 1509 00:59:34,520 --> 00:59:36,440 Speaker 3: That song you're not giving me an I'm trying to 1510 00:59:36,440 --> 00:59:37,840 Speaker 3: go old school. No, I know, I hear you, but 1511 00:59:38,080 --> 00:59:39,919 Speaker 3: and all those are perfect songs. But you're just saying 1512 00:59:39,920 --> 00:59:42,000 Speaker 3: every song come a little closer. We played that this year. 1513 00:59:42,040 --> 00:59:42,600 Speaker 3: I hadn't played that. 1514 00:59:42,800 --> 00:59:43,360 Speaker 2: Now you're giving me. 1515 00:59:43,760 --> 00:59:45,440 Speaker 1: Now you're giving me no, Well, you've been getting me 1516 00:59:45,480 --> 00:59:46,520 Speaker 1: tones this whole damn time. 1517 00:59:46,720 --> 00:59:49,200 Speaker 2: None of my answers are acceptable. That's not true. That 1518 00:59:49,320 --> 00:59:51,440 Speaker 2: I said, what's a song? And then you gave me five. 1519 00:59:51,560 --> 00:59:53,600 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, being created here. I walk out the 1520 00:59:53,640 --> 00:59:56,440 Speaker 2: door in my mid I need the broken branches fun 1521 00:59:56,520 --> 00:59:57,240 Speaker 2: for me at this point. 1522 00:59:57,360 --> 00:59:59,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, come a little closer. I haven't played in a while. 1523 00:59:59,640 --> 01:00:01,479 Speaker 1: We did this year for the first time about ten years. 1524 01:00:01,600 --> 01:00:02,400 Speaker 1: It felt great. 1525 01:00:02,560 --> 01:00:05,440 Speaker 2: That's awesome. Thank you. I enjoyed this. Thanks, thank you. 1526 01:00:05,480 --> 01:00:07,480 Speaker 2: That's cool. It was a fun hour for funny. Yeah, 1527 01:00:07,520 --> 01:00:09,000 Speaker 2: it was. I'm glad it was for one of us. 1528 01:00:09,040 --> 01:00:11,680 Speaker 1: I feel like I'm many and it was my hands 1529 01:00:11,680 --> 01:00:13,960 Speaker 1: sore from the ruler, like the look kept smashing my 1530 01:00:14,640 --> 01:00:16,960 Speaker 1: wrong answer, you were smashing. 1531 01:00:17,480 --> 01:00:21,160 Speaker 2: I was just accepting it. That's all. 1532 01:00:21,880 --> 01:00:23,520 Speaker 1: I get to go back and hear the sound bites 1533 01:00:23,560 --> 01:00:25,080 Speaker 1: and all the stuff. I regret saying, so. 1534 01:00:25,000 --> 01:00:26,640 Speaker 3: We should only do sound bites on this. We don't 1535 01:00:26,640 --> 01:00:28,600 Speaker 3: put it out now at all. Full for him, it's 1536 01:00:28,640 --> 01:00:29,480 Speaker 3: only in sound. 1537 01:00:29,360 --> 01:00:31,120 Speaker 1: Bites, right, that would be good. I can't wait for 1538 01:00:31,920 --> 01:00:32,800 Speaker 1: I can't wait for that. 1539 01:00:33,680 --> 01:00:36,320 Speaker 2: You still got some shows left on this tour? Huh? Yeah? 1540 01:00:36,320 --> 01:00:37,240 Speaker 2: I got three of them. 1541 01:00:37,280 --> 01:00:38,920 Speaker 1: Were we have this week and the week up to 1542 01:00:39,120 --> 01:00:41,280 Speaker 1: New York and do that whole three more up there, 1543 01:00:41,280 --> 01:00:44,280 Speaker 1: and then that's that's it. Yeah, six more shows and 1544 01:00:44,360 --> 01:00:44,960 Speaker 1: that's been fun. 1545 01:00:45,000 --> 01:00:45,480 Speaker 2: It's been good. 1546 01:00:45,560 --> 01:00:48,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, you're sadly behind. It's been a really good tour, 1547 01:00:48,520 --> 01:00:51,160 Speaker 1: really fun. It's fun going out there. You know, the 1548 01:00:51,200 --> 01:00:53,720 Speaker 1: band before you was just like young and they're just 1549 01:00:54,360 --> 01:00:56,080 Speaker 1: they're in that thing. You get to see him do 1550 01:00:56,120 --> 01:00:58,040 Speaker 1: what they're doing and you know they're geting ready to 1551 01:00:58,040 --> 01:01:00,960 Speaker 1: blast off. So that's been probably the highlight of the 1552 01:01:01,240 --> 01:01:02,960 Speaker 1: tour of me. He's just seen those guys all. 1553 01:01:02,960 --> 01:01:05,880 Speaker 2: Right there, he is your friend of mine, America's sweetheart. 1554 01:01:06,280 --> 01:01:09,720 Speaker 1: Hey, Derek's take that. Yeah, sweet dreams to everyone out there. 1555 01:01:09,720 --> 01:01:12,600 Speaker 1: Speaking of sweets, we all sleep well. I do sleep 1556 01:01:12,640 --> 01:01:15,800 Speaker 1: this in the daytime. Oh really, your napper? 1557 01:01:16,360 --> 01:01:18,320 Speaker 2: Nope, I don't have time to take naps. 1558 01:01:18,320 --> 01:01:20,440 Speaker 3: But if I ever have time to take yumps, I 1559 01:01:20,480 --> 01:01:22,000 Speaker 3: can sleep hard in the day because I don't feel 1560 01:01:22,000 --> 01:01:23,760 Speaker 3: like someone's gonna come up. 1561 01:01:22,680 --> 01:01:26,560 Speaker 2: And I'm not joking. Well, that's why you guys sleep 1562 01:01:26,560 --> 01:01:32,160 Speaker 2: in separate rooms. Okay, there is family everybody. Thanks for 1563 01:01:32,240 --> 01:01:34,240 Speaker 2: listening to a Bobby Cast production.