1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,440 Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on 2 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:07,040 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio and welcome back to Coast to Coast George nor 3 00:00:07,280 --> 00:00:09,959 Speaker 1: with you with doctor Marvin Herndon with us as we 4 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:13,520 Speaker 1: are talking about the Earth's core. There are some scientists 5 00:00:13,600 --> 00:00:17,120 Speaker 1: that believe that the core is responsible for the magnetic field. 6 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:21,040 Speaker 1: I'm not sure you do, Marv. Tell me about that. No, no, 7 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:25,480 Speaker 1: because the only idea that really makes sense is this 8 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:33,879 Speaker 1: idea that of the convection motions twisted by planetary rotation, 9 00:00:34,080 --> 00:00:38,120 Speaker 1: speaking in a magnetic amplifier. But you can't have convection 10 00:00:38,159 --> 00:00:42,000 Speaker 1: in the core. But so it doesn't matter. People have 11 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:45,960 Speaker 1: still made models. They spent millions of dollars making mathematical 12 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:50,360 Speaker 1: computer models, and they always seem to work. But they 13 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 1: can't work. This is here's a really strange situation. George. 14 00:00:56,400 --> 00:00:59,560 Speaker 1: Years ago, say ten years ago or twenty years ago, 15 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:03,680 Speaker 1: it was hard for most people to believe that scientists 16 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 1: weren't telling the truth. But now look at what's coming out. 17 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 1: I mean, the mainstream media, they have a lot of 18 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:18,400 Speaker 1: trouble with the problem of truth and the blacklisting, the censorship, 19 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 1: the almost everybody in the in the public arena practically lies, 20 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:30,320 Speaker 1: except the white hats of course. But so it's it's 21 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:33,720 Speaker 1: not surprising. And but the thing that is bad about 22 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 1: scientists lying is that they deceive humanity about the real risks. 23 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:46,679 Speaker 1: See if you think about if the if the Earth's 24 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 1: core is about one third of the mass of the 25 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 1: entire Earth. So imagine that that was actually convicting and 26 00:01:57,280 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 1: you were producing the magnetic field there. That motion would 27 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 1: have a huge amount of inertia. I mean, it would 28 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 1: be like trying to stop a fully loaded freight train 29 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:12,359 Speaker 1: that's the longest in the world, and trying to put 30 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 1: a stop to it, it would be very difficult. A ball, 31 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:20,680 Speaker 1: it's like a ball, and the georeactor is like a ball. 32 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 1: But the georeactor, the nuclear reactor at the center of 33 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:27,240 Speaker 1: the Earth, is only one ten millionth the mass of 34 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 1: the Earth, and so that can principally be stopped quite quickly. Now, 35 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:37,840 Speaker 1: there are two things that can upset the convection in 36 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:42,800 Speaker 1: the georeactor. One is a big meteorite impact at the 37 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 1: surface of the Earth would cause it to disturb the 38 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:52,840 Speaker 1: fluid motions. But another thing is great outburst from the sun. 39 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:56,240 Speaker 1: You know, we live in a world where the sun 40 00:02:56,360 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 1: is not just a quiet producer of energy. There's solar flares, 41 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:06,520 Speaker 1: there's corona discharges, charge particles that pass through the Earth 42 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 1: and then pass around the Earth. Usually the magnetic field 43 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:16,400 Speaker 1: deflects those. But what happens also is that when you 44 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:22,920 Speaker 1: have such a bunch of charge particles hitting the Earth's 45 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:28,680 Speaker 1: magnetic field, it induces a current in the georeactor which 46 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 1: can destabilize it, which can can upset the the Earth's 47 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 1: magnetic field and even possibly shut it down. Well, if 48 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:43,200 Speaker 1: it does shut down, if it stops moving as they 49 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:47,080 Speaker 1: think it could be, what does that mean to us? Well, 50 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:53,839 Speaker 1: if if the if the magnetic field stops and it's 51 00:03:53,880 --> 00:03:57,760 Speaker 1: not in the fluid course in the georeactor, what you 52 00:03:57,760 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 1: would have You would have widespread communications disruptions, GPS blackouts, 53 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:09,120 Speaker 1: birds smashing into walls, right satellite failures, a loss of 54 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 1: electrical power, loss of electrical transmission control. Will we have 55 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:18,240 Speaker 1: time to see it coming? No? And this is what 56 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 1: the problem is. This is what the real problem is. 57 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 1: No one's really preparing for it because they think that 58 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:28,920 Speaker 1: the Earth's magnetic field is being created in this massive 59 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:34,039 Speaker 1: fluid core that can't change quickly, but it can change quickly, 60 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:36,360 Speaker 1: and I've only mentioned a few other things that are 61 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:43,719 Speaker 1: the problems. Is it changing yet, it's been changing over 62 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:47,159 Speaker 1: the last hundred years. The intensity of the magnetic field 63 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 1: is about half what it was a hundred years ago. 64 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:54,719 Speaker 1: And you've probably heard people talking about the movement of 65 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:59,279 Speaker 1: the magnetic north pole. Yes, that's increased in movement, it's shifting, 66 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:04,080 Speaker 1: and maybe that may be an indication. And so people 67 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 1: should really be trying to understand exactly what the georeactor 68 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 1: is telling us about the potential for a shutdown. But 69 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:19,720 Speaker 1: they don't. They're they're pretending that it all happens in 70 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:22,960 Speaker 1: the Earth's core. I mean, it's nonsense science. This is 71 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 1: serious business, isn't it. It is serious business? Uh, you know, 72 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 1: a geomagnetic field collapse could cause such hardship and suffering 73 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:38,720 Speaker 1: and potentially reverse more than two centuries of technological infrastructured development. 74 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:44,039 Speaker 1: The last magnetic reversal occurred about seven hundred and eighty 75 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 1: thousand years ago. Now, humans at that time, I believe 76 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:55,160 Speaker 1: we're basically cavemen cave women too. I don't want to 77 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 1: leave anybody out, but but I mean, they were they 78 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:05,560 Speaker 1: they weren't a technological society. I mean, right now, everything 79 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 1: we do is connected to technology. And uh so if 80 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:14,960 Speaker 1: the if all of a sudden the Earth's magnetic field 81 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:19,200 Speaker 1: started collapsing, no one's prepared for it, and no one's 82 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:24,000 Speaker 1: studying it, and no one is understanding because this this 83 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:27,480 Speaker 1: is the message that really should be getting to the people, 84 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 1: um who you know, are concerned about the the the infrastructure. 85 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:39,120 Speaker 1: Oh can we prepare for it? Mar Well, One thing 86 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 1: you you have to keep in mind that when when 87 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:46,680 Speaker 1: these charged particles get so intense they come through the 88 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:53,600 Speaker 1: magnetic field, they can induce currents in long wires like 89 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:58,320 Speaker 1: electrical power systems, which can blow out transformers and other 90 00:06:58,360 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 1: pieces of equipment and just too and this is this 91 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 1: is seen in a little tiny bit when when there's 92 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 1: a large outburst, occasionally a power system will go down 93 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:15,320 Speaker 1: and maybe a transformer will go out, which takes about 94 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 1: six months to rebuild another one, And then no one's 95 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 1: really prepared. We don't even have them in this country. 96 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 1: They come out of China, don't they. They are Switzerland 97 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 1: or someplace, and they're usually custom made. So I mean, 98 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 1: you know, we just can't get one off the shelf, 99 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:36,160 Speaker 1: and there's so many problems and you know what we're 100 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 1: doing is we're doing stupid things. We're sending billions of 101 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:48,080 Speaker 1: dollars to create a war in Ukraine. Uh that could 102 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:53,800 Speaker 1: that could be solving people problems over here, because I 103 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 1: mean it could. Uh, we're spending vast amounts of money 104 00:07:57,960 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 1: that we should be make that The science would really 105 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 1: be a mechanism to improve life on Earth, and in 106 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 1: many cases it has, I mean, for example, in treating disease. 107 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:16,880 Speaker 1: But the dark side of science is that the monsters, 108 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:25,680 Speaker 1: the really human monsters, are making viruses worse than occur 109 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 1: in nature, so they can be used as germ warfare. 110 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 1: Well do you agree with the scientists that the core 111 00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:40,320 Speaker 1: itself is slowing down? Well, I don't it. Who knows right? 112 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:44,559 Speaker 1: Who knows number one and number two it? I mean, 113 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:48,239 Speaker 1: it may be that that could tell you something about 114 00:08:48,280 --> 00:08:52,000 Speaker 1: what is going to happen with the magnetic field. That 115 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 1: would be nice to know. But the problem is that 116 00:08:57,240 --> 00:08:59,839 Speaker 1: you have to you have to look at that in 117 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:08,280 Speaker 1: terms of understanding the true science. And that's that's one 118 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:11,560 Speaker 1: of the things that needs to be done. Another thing 119 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 1: that there's helium that's produced by the georeactor and it 120 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:21,200 Speaker 1: comes up in deep source volcanoes like of powering Hawaii 121 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 1: and Iceland, And that helium is a reflection it's produced 122 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 1: by the georeactor and makes its way up and that 123 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:40,800 Speaker 1: that composition reflects the current state of georeactor of the georeactor. 124 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:46,400 Speaker 1: But the data has not been precise. It's just measurements 125 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 1: here and there. But but it looks like we are 126 00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:55,040 Speaker 1: leading toward the end of the life of the georeactor. 127 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:57,880 Speaker 1: And does that mean it'll stop in a hundred years 128 00:09:58,120 --> 00:10:02,840 Speaker 1: or maybe a thousand, or maybe a million years from now? 129 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:06,960 Speaker 1: We don't know. Is the planet dead when its reactor stops. 130 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:13,120 Speaker 1: Pretty much this is what's happened with the planet marsh 131 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 1: Its its reactor died and its decompression it u When 132 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:25,720 Speaker 1: planets form initially, they are typically compressed by the ices 133 00:10:25,760 --> 00:10:30,800 Speaker 1: and gases, like at one point in its early life, 134 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:34,199 Speaker 1: Earth was more like Jupiter. It had like three hundred 135 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:39,319 Speaker 1: Earth masses of gases, compressing what we call Earth to 136 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:43,320 Speaker 1: about two thirds of the diameter. And when the Sun 137 00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 1: ignited and blew away all the gases, it began a 138 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:53,559 Speaker 1: process of decompression. And this is the process that drives 139 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:57,920 Speaker 1: all of all of geology. I mean as as the 140 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:03,640 Speaker 1: as the planet decompresses, its surface area has to increase. 141 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:09,199 Speaker 1: It increases by making cracks, and those cracks expand and 142 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:12,680 Speaker 1: get it filled in, and that's the ocean basins that 143 00:11:12,720 --> 00:11:17,240 Speaker 1: are formed. And the curvature also has to change. I mean, 144 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:20,400 Speaker 1: if you took a half of an orange the peel 145 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:24,720 Speaker 1: and set it on a bigger melon, it wouldn't lay flat. 146 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 1: And the reason is because of the curvature. Well for 147 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 1: the curvature for to make it lay flat, you could 148 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:35,800 Speaker 1: take tucks in it and fold it over and you 149 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:39,120 Speaker 1: could find that the little tears around the edges, and 150 00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:42,400 Speaker 1: this is exactly what's happened on the Earth. Those are 151 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:45,599 Speaker 1: the reason that you have the mountains that are characterized 152 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 1: by folding, and the little tears that are seen are 153 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:54,839 Speaker 1: the reason that Norway, for example, has all the fiords 154 00:11:55,360 --> 00:12:01,600 Speaker 1: and that you have submarine canyons. So this is it's 155 00:12:01,679 --> 00:12:08,160 Speaker 1: part of understanding how how the the whole planetary system works. 156 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:14,280 Speaker 1: Is anybody panicking Marvin over this last report? No, I 157 00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:17,720 Speaker 1: think there's a lot of mystery because you remember the 158 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:21,600 Speaker 1: science fiction movie The Core. Yeah, Well they that where 159 00:12:21,640 --> 00:12:23,760 Speaker 1: they had to go down into the core to get 160 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:26,720 Speaker 1: it moving again. Yeah, the premise was that it had stopped, 161 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:29,720 Speaker 1: the core had stopped rotating, right, it was like a 162 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:33,400 Speaker 1: little a little planet within a planet. Yeah, and so 163 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:35,559 Speaker 1: that's that's but of course that's not what makes the 164 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:39,640 Speaker 1: magnetic field work. But it's it's it had people have 165 00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:44,840 Speaker 1: in their mind this kind of story from from movies. 166 00:12:44,880 --> 00:12:47,559 Speaker 1: And I think there are other movies besides The Core 167 00:12:47,640 --> 00:12:54,679 Speaker 1: that use that planet the rotation of the core. But no, 168 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:58,520 Speaker 1: it's the that's just is there like a big hole 169 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:01,640 Speaker 1: in the center of the Earth. No, in the center 170 00:13:01,679 --> 00:13:05,920 Speaker 1: of the Earth, there's the nuclear fission georeactor. It's it's 171 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:11,439 Speaker 1: like imagine a ball of uranium surrounded by an even 172 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:21,160 Speaker 1: bigger ball of uranium mixed with decay products. And is 173 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:26,960 Speaker 1: it glowing? Uh, well, yes, yes, it would be because 174 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:30,680 Speaker 1: the Earth's the the temperature in the in the Earth's 175 00:13:30,720 --> 00:13:34,200 Speaker 1: core is about six thousand degrees and it is is 176 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:37,480 Speaker 1: it like a huge crevice or is it just part 177 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:41,160 Speaker 1: of the No, it's very compressed. It is. Okay, it's 178 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:44,320 Speaker 1: very compressed. So the planet itself, if you go down 179 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:47,160 Speaker 1: to the middle of the planet, if you everly get 180 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:50,800 Speaker 1: four thousand miles down there or whatever this is, Yes, 181 00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:55,840 Speaker 1: would would you see a big gap in the planet 182 00:13:56,240 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 1: or nothing? You you would what you would do, or 183 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:04,520 Speaker 1: you would be indo up where in the nuclear subcore 184 00:14:04,880 --> 00:14:09,440 Speaker 1: where where the fission is taking place, and that would 185 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:11,960 Speaker 1: be very dense, but that would be where the energy 186 00:14:12,040 --> 00:14:17,000 Speaker 1: was being produced. And then if you look further, you 187 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:20,960 Speaker 1: would see of a layer, a much thicker layer around 188 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:26,000 Speaker 1: that that's in motion, in motion driven by the heat, 189 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:33,680 Speaker 1: and that then is in contact with the lower limit 190 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 1: of the inner core. And the inner core acts as 191 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:40,760 Speaker 1: a big heat sink. So as the the sub shell 192 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:46,680 Speaker 1: fluid moves up by convection, it hits the inner core 193 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:49,520 Speaker 1: and that takes away the heat, so it then falls 194 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:54,200 Speaker 1: back in. And this is the motion coupled with planetary 195 00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:59,000 Speaker 1: motion that generates the Earth's magnetic field. And there are 196 00:14:59,040 --> 00:15:03,480 Speaker 1: lots of charge particles there that are moving and making 197 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:07,400 Speaker 1: little mini feels that can be amplified. If I remember 198 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 1: the movie from the Core, they had a machine that 199 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:14,080 Speaker 1: could augur out the planet where they went down in 200 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:18,480 Speaker 1: this little capsule right right, and it was made of unobtainium. 201 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:22,960 Speaker 1: But oh yeah, no, that was that was a really 202 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:26,240 Speaker 1: fun movie. I didn't get to meet the director until 203 00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:29,880 Speaker 1: it was already in the can. But it was, it was. 204 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:33,800 Speaker 1: It was a fun movie. Was it accurate? No, it 205 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:35,680 Speaker 1: was a lot of things were wrong with it, a 206 00:15:36,560 --> 00:15:39,920 Speaker 1: lot of things, And if I had been involved from 207 00:15:39,960 --> 00:15:42,760 Speaker 1: the very beginning, it would have been a lot different. 208 00:15:43,640 --> 00:15:48,440 Speaker 1: But see, here's the story, George, I was remember and 209 00:15:48,560 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 1: we go back a long way. In two thousand and two, 210 00:15:53,400 --> 00:16:02,800 Speaker 1: the August issue of Discover magazine, my work about the 211 00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:05,520 Speaker 1: reactor at the Center of the Earth was the cover story. 212 00:16:05,800 --> 00:16:08,920 Speaker 1: That's right. Listen to more Coast to Coast AM every 213 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:12,080 Speaker 1: weeknight at one a m. Eastern and go to Coast 214 00:16:12,080 --> 00:16:13,920 Speaker 1: to Coast am dot com for more