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Speaker 1: Well with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and
Speaker 1: Derek Eagleton. It is Thursday, November second two, thy seventeen,
Speaker 1: Season thirteen, episode number sixty second seven. Welcome to another
Speaker 1: edition of The Break. We are alive from the s
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Speaker 1: guys taking some time with us to talk Cowboys football.
Speaker 1: Got a lot to get into today. We will be
Speaker 1: talking specifically about Kansas City Chiefs their defense versus the
Speaker 1: Cowboys offense. We're gonna take some time to talk a
Speaker 1: little bit about the running backs on the Cowboys. There
Speaker 1: was a little bit of talk yesterday, Dave. You wrote
Speaker 1: an article about what they had to say and when
Speaker 1: Jason Garrett had to say. And we'll talk about the
Speaker 1: running back position what we think will happen there without
Speaker 1: Ezekiel Elliott. And we will also begin the show talking
Speaker 1: about the injury report which we always do. So how's
Speaker 1: everybody doing this morning? Baller a F Derek ball or AF.
Speaker 1: I like it. Yeah, that's a good attitude right there.
Speaker 1: And yeah, all right, what does a stand? Can't talk
Speaker 1: about it. I'll just get it. Tell you later, tell
Speaker 1: you laid office. I'm good, Nick, good, all good, good,
Speaker 1: all right, good, nice and full Nick. So you get
Speaker 1: a nice healthy breakfast there before we get on the air,
Speaker 1: I was working on it. There you go. All right,
Speaker 1: let's get into it. Let's talk some injuries. Cowboys had
Speaker 1: four players who did not practice yesterday for various injuries. Cheetahbewoozier,
Speaker 1: Dan Bailey, Tyrn Smith, Cole Beasley. Really the one there
Speaker 1: that I think is most of note because it's new.
Speaker 1: We'll not really new, but at least it's something that
Speaker 1: we're monitoring for the week. Um, it's Cole Beasley. Any
Speaker 1: word at this point on where he is he is
Speaker 1: in the concussion protocol where he isn't in that protocol. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Jason Garrett said he's doing really well. He's been in
Speaker 1: team meetings, he went trick or treating on Tuesday night
Speaker 1: and was posting videos. He appears to be a great
Speaker 1: video was it was cute, cute as hell. Yeah, Garrett said,
Speaker 1: he hasn't really been showing a whole lot of symptoms
Speaker 1: and such. You know, head injuries are always weird, so
Speaker 1: I don't want to prescribe too much. I don't know
Speaker 1: if he'll play, but it sounds encouraging. So and if
Speaker 1: he doesn't play in this game, then I would imagine
Speaker 1: he would be back in time for Atlanta. So, I mean,
Speaker 1: we've talked about it before. The guys that have concussions,
Speaker 1: I mean maybe they treat it differently around here. We've
Speaker 1: had two so far and they haven't played any football since.
Speaker 1: So I would think that Nolan Carroll and Enrico Gathers
Speaker 1: are not weighed the same as Cole Beasley here. But
Speaker 1: in all, concussions are differently. Love just saying the two
Speaker 1: that we've seen before, they have not played. So I
Speaker 1: would like to think he'll be ready to go. If
Speaker 1: he's out trigger treating, you know, good scary out there,
Speaker 1: I'm sure he'd be good. All right, Let's talk about
Speaker 1: a couple of guys that were limited in practice yesterday.
Speaker 1: Noah Brown thigh injury, Des Briant with a knee injury,
Speaker 1: Willie Collins a foot injury. He showed up on the
Speaker 1: injury report last week but played, and then DeMarcus Lawrence
Speaker 1: shows up with a calf injury. Any of those concern you.
Speaker 1: They were limited in practice, so the assumption is they
Speaker 1: at least did some things, which is better than no
Speaker 1: practice at all. I would assume anytime you're riding bikes,
Speaker 1: you know you're gonna hurt your calf or you have
Speaker 1: a chance to hurt your calf. So yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: I know he was riding by We all saw that
Speaker 1: he was riding bikes, So I just hope that that
Speaker 1: doesn't come back to hurt this team. He rides. He
Speaker 1: rides his bike every single day though. This is nothing
Speaker 1: new except when you put it on camera maybe or
Speaker 1: something like that. Maybe it hurts. What don't shake your
Speaker 1: head at me? Why are you killing you where I'm not?
Speaker 1: I'm not. I love Tyrone Crawford, He's great. Um um, yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm not concerned. But those will all
Speaker 1: be things Jason Garrett talks about. That is fine. I
Speaker 1: saw and talked to Das yesterday. I don't think that's
Speaker 1: a big deal. But you know, you have to list
Speaker 1: that stuff when something happens. So none of those four
Speaker 1: bother me as of yet, but I mean that'll be
Speaker 1: something Jason Garrett talks about today. If any of them
Speaker 1: concern me, it would be DeMarcus because I hadn't heard
Speaker 1: anything about that, and you know, he's playing pretty really
Speaker 1: good player. He's playing pretty well, So all right, Tittabae Woozier.
Speaker 1: Just for the purposes of catching everybody up, the assumption
Speaker 1: is he didn't practice again yesterday. He hasn't been practicing
Speaker 1: last few weeks. At this point, we unless we hear otherwise,
Speaker 1: the assumption is that he is probably not going to
Speaker 1: be ready to play again this week. I have moved
Speaker 1: him into that category in my mind where I'm just like,
Speaker 1: all right, you don't have him. Yeah, He's into that
Speaker 1: drop by Kent where you're just like, okay until you
Speaker 1: hear that otherwise he is not going until Honestly, I
Speaker 1: don't even care about his practice status, like I need
Speaker 1: to see him in uniform on Sunday to believe that
Speaker 1: he's gonna play. You think, even when he's healthy, he
Speaker 1: may still be inactive. I mean, he's been out on
Speaker 1: the field every day for three weeks. Like people like
Speaker 1: every day. I'm like, I tweeted out, I report who's
Speaker 1: at practice, like everybody was at practice today? Or what
Speaker 1: people are like, Cheeto was at practice, so he's gonna
Speaker 1: play And I'm like, he's been at practice since week six.
Speaker 1: That hasn't translated to him being ready to play. And
Speaker 1: let's make a distinction. Being at practice doesn't mean he's practiced, right,
Speaker 1: means he's there. I mean, you know, he warms up,
Speaker 1: he does some patent go and some other stuff, and
Speaker 1: then he works with this conditioning, you know, the training
Speaker 1: staff on his hammy. He doesn't we are talking about
Speaker 1: the game, We're talking about practice. You're damn right, Ai,
Speaker 1: You're right, and it's frustrating, But I mean you want
Speaker 1: to be cautious with that, you know, I mean, you
Speaker 1: don't want to sideline him for longer than he already
Speaker 1: has been. But he's been sidelined for basically half the season,
Speaker 1: So I mean, I don't know what to make of that.
Speaker 1: Maybe he's not good enough to play. I mean, maybe
Speaker 1: he's practices, but maybe he's not the best option. I
Speaker 1: would have a hard time believing that because they wouldn't
Speaker 1: list him as a DNP if he was going through
Speaker 1: the team portions of practice, right, right. But I'm just
Speaker 1: saying when you get when you get to the game though,
Speaker 1: like he has been, he hasn't been active for the games.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. That maybe he's not going to
Speaker 1: be maybe not, I mean, maybe he's not better than
Speaker 1: like Ben Wickery. I mean, you would like to, you
Speaker 1: would like for him to get the opportunity, but I'm
Speaker 1: just saying he may not be. Here's talking about once
Speaker 1: he's healthy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think that's yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I agree with that. I mean that that's something that
Speaker 1: we'll have to see because he hasn't played a whole lot,
Speaker 1: so you just don't know. You don't know what the
Speaker 1: coaches think of his readiness to be able to play either.
Speaker 1: So all right, let's jump back into the running back situation. Obviously,
Speaker 1: Ezekiel Elliott as of right now is suspended. There's still
Speaker 1: is kind of that hell marry that's kind of sitting
Speaker 1: over there out in space there the NFLPA waiting for
Speaker 1: a ruling on whether they can get a an appeal
Speaker 1: heard by or at least a temporary restraining order from
Speaker 1: the Second Circuit Court, which they asked for it by Friday,
Speaker 1: the courts under no obligation, right, just FYI, Right, So
Speaker 1: there is this really really really small chance that something
Speaker 1: happens there. But assuming none of that happens, they're going
Speaker 1: to play without Ezekiel Elliott. And yesterday I thought it
Speaker 1: was interesting because Jason Garrett, the running backs that are
Speaker 1: left on the team all had something to say about it,
Speaker 1: and they all seem to say the right thing. Let's
Speaker 1: actually listen to what Jason Garrett had to say about
Speaker 1: how they plan to work these running back in these
Speaker 1: running backs in Kent. Excited about the opportunity for those guys. Again,
Speaker 1: each of those guys have been very productive players, and
Speaker 1: a Rod being the most inexperienced of the group, but
Speaker 1: he's done a lot of positive things for us and
Speaker 1: the opportunities he's gotten. Darren's been very productive, Alphred has
Speaker 1: been productive with his opportunities even though they've been limited.
Speaker 1: And you know, we're excited about giving those guys chances
Speaker 1: to go play. And you know, I guess your question
Speaker 1: is how do you substitute them. We're gonna give him
Speaker 1: each opportunities. We're not gonna lay out what that plan
Speaker 1: is they'll get opportunities to practice, and we'll work day
Speaker 1: by day this week, and we think each of those
Speaker 1: guys will have an opportunity to help us. So it
Speaker 1: sounds like they're all going to get a chance. I
Speaker 1: was Jason Garrett talking about the running back position. My
Speaker 1: question for you guys is just based on what you
Speaker 1: know of this team, based upon your experiences covering this
Speaker 1: team and the coaches, what do you anticipate will happen
Speaker 1: with regards to how they run these guys out. Who starts,
Speaker 1: who's the guy that you think will get the bulk
Speaker 1: of the carries. What are maybe some of the roles
Speaker 1: that you could see for some of these guys. Well,
Speaker 1: I think Alfred Morris will probably start. That's the way
Speaker 1: that that's who they like the best, and that's that's
Speaker 1: who they've liked this whole year, So I think he
Speaker 1: will start. And then I think it'll just come down
Speaker 1: too who's playing the best. I mean, if some guy
Speaker 1: rips off a thirty five yard run, then he's gonna play.
Speaker 1: So I think they're just gonna give I don't know
Speaker 1: about third down. I I would say that they kind
Speaker 1: of rotate McFadden in some but I bet you it's
Speaker 1: Rod Smith gets in there. But I mean, whoever plays
Speaker 1: the best in the second half, you know, in the
Speaker 1: first half play in the second. I just ride the
Speaker 1: hot hand. That's kind of most people do it. I
Speaker 1: bet this is going to look a lot like kind
Speaker 1: of what we thought it would look, or what we
Speaker 1: talked about it looking like in training camp, in the
Speaker 1: sense that Darren McFadden is your number two running back
Speaker 1: who plays third downs and has receptions and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: You know, you talk about him being the better option
Speaker 1: as a true backup running back, and I think that's
Speaker 1: what he'll be here. I think Alfred Morris is going
Speaker 1: to have the bulk of the carries at least until
Speaker 1: somebody proves that they should have more, and then yeah,
Speaker 1: McFadden will fill that role that we kind of talked
Speaker 1: about him having at training camp. And I don't like this,
Speaker 1: but I think I don't want to afterthought. Seems harsh,
Speaker 1: But I would imagine Rod Smith's workload is far smaller
Speaker 1: than the other two guys, at least to start, but
Speaker 1: I hope that he plays well enough to merit more
Speaker 1: of that as this stretch goes on. I mean, six
Speaker 1: games is a lot, so he'll have his opportunity to
Speaker 1: show he can do at some point and hopefully he
Speaker 1: makes the most u It, Amber, what do you think
Speaker 1: I'd rather see Rod Smith like? I'm anxious to see
Speaker 1: him play a lot more and see him out on
Speaker 1: the field. Honestly, I know Darren is a veteran and
Speaker 1: I'm sure he's gonna get a lot of playing time here,
Speaker 1: but he hasn't played a game. We haven't seen him play.
Speaker 1: When we did see him in the preseason, he wasn't
Speaker 1: any great, So, I mean, he had some plays, but nothing. Wow.
Speaker 1: Obviously Alfred was a lot better than him. So I'm
Speaker 1: hoping that the Cowboys do give rod Smith some chance
Speaker 1: to kind of go out there a little bit more
Speaker 1: and prove himself. It's interesting you guys mentioned rod Smith.
Speaker 1: Jason Garrett was asked about Rod Smith and maybe what
Speaker 1: his opportunities might be. Can't can you play that for us? Oh?
Speaker 1: I think they're all different. They all have strengths. They
Speaker 1: each have different things they can bring to the table,
Speaker 1: and again, we have confidence in them. You know, We've
Speaker 1: given rod different opportunities to run the ball, play on
Speaker 1: third down. He's been a very good special team's contributor
Speaker 1: for us, and he's just a guy who comes to
Speaker 1: work every day with tremendous passion. He loves to play,
Speaker 1: and he's getting better and better every day, so he's
Speaker 1: gonna get an opportunity to do something for us on
Speaker 1: offense as well. Yeah, it sounds like I mean, obviously
Speaker 1: they're saying all the right things. Jason's not gonna gonna
Speaker 1: show his hand on this one until the game, so
Speaker 1: you won't really know what they're gonna do. But Dave
Speaker 1: Ivan heard you mentioned yesterday something similar to what Amber saying,
Speaker 1: and that you you'd think Alfred's going to be the
Speaker 1: guy to get the ball of the carries, but you'd
Speaker 1: like to see them not make rod Smith an afterthought
Speaker 1: because you think there may be something there. And I
Speaker 1: personally agree with that. I think I think he's a
Speaker 1: guy that has some Obviously he's got size, he's got speed.
Speaker 1: I'd like to just kind of see and maybe that's
Speaker 1: what it is. It's just more you want to see it.
Speaker 1: You know, you kind of want you kind of know
Speaker 1: what those other two guys are. You kind of want
Speaker 1: to see if rod Smith has a little something going
Speaker 1: all the way back to April, like, there is a
Speaker 1: lot of quiet confidence in this building that he's a beast,
Speaker 1: and I would like to see him get a chance
Speaker 1: to showcase that he had a chance. And he did
Speaker 1: it at training camp. I mean, he was great at
Speaker 1: training camp. He was great in the preseason. He was
Speaker 1: like the goal line touchdown vulture at training camp, Like
Speaker 1: it seemed like he was always the guy picking up
Speaker 1: the rushing touchdowns. Having said that, like I said a
Speaker 1: minute ago, I just don't think it's realistic to think
Speaker 1: a guy with twelve career carries in the NFL is
Speaker 1: going to magically just vault over these veterans with thousand
Speaker 1: yards seasons and literally thousands of carries on their resume
Speaker 1: for this coaching staff, Yeah, well for one hundred percent
Speaker 1: until he does something that they can't ignore. And I
Speaker 1: mean it's not like they don't have confidence in them,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, But it just Alfred Morrison
Speaker 1: Darryn McFadden have been doing this and doing it well
Speaker 1: in the NFL for a long time, and I don't
Speaker 1: I think that they will have the first chance to
Speaker 1: really do this thing well. And we'll see how it goes.
Speaker 1: As you know, as these games go along. I know
Speaker 1: Darren obviously, it's a veteran and has a lot of experience.
Speaker 1: But are you guys expecting him to come into this
Speaker 1: game and play pretty well out there, even though he
Speaker 1: hasn't played at all this season so far, aside from
Speaker 1: the preseason. I don't. Yeah, I mean, I expect him
Speaker 1: to be I just my feeling about this whole thing
Speaker 1: is I just expect him to be fine. I don't
Speaker 1: expect him to light the world on fire or be terrible.
Speaker 1: I just think they will be fine, They'll be good. Actually,
Speaker 1: I actually kind of agree with you saying I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't really expect and I you know, this is
Speaker 1: always you just don't know how they're going to do it.
Speaker 1: But I don't really expect that I'm gonna that we're
Speaker 1: gonna see a whole lot of Darren McFadden. I think
Speaker 1: this is really gonna be Alfred Morris and Rod Smith.
Speaker 1: I actually think those will be the two guys that
Speaker 1: will get the bulk of the carriers. I think McFadden
Speaker 1: will get a couple, but I honestly think that at
Speaker 1: the end of the game, we'll look back at the
Speaker 1: at the stat sheet and Alfred Morris is going to
Speaker 1: be the guy that basically carried the load for them.
Speaker 1: There's something to be said for I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: he is a veteran, but this coaching staff also isn't
Speaker 1: the type to just throw a guy into the fire
Speaker 1: after six weeks on the shelf. I mean, and that
Speaker 1: doesn't seem overly responsible for that matter. So that's something
Speaker 1: worth keeping in mind. Yeah, I mean, I think when
Speaker 1: it's all said and done, I don't know how many
Speaker 1: times you think they're going to run the ball on Sunday,
Speaker 1: let's say twenty six. Yeah, I would guess Alfred Morris
Speaker 1: will have at least sixteen or seventeen of those twenty
Speaker 1: six carries. Like that's my guests. I think he's going
Speaker 1: to be at least, you know, to start this thing off.
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna get the bulk of the carries.
Speaker 1: It seems like they're very confident. You listen to the
Speaker 1: running backs in the locker room yesterday. Alfred was talking
Speaker 1: a lot about Look, this is this unchanging thing for us.
Speaker 1: We do what we do we think will be fine.
Speaker 1: Are you as confident as they are that they can
Speaker 1: carry the load as a group and not really have
Speaker 1: a significant drop off from what they've been able to accomplish.
Speaker 1: With Ezekiel Elliott, I'm not as confident as they are,
Speaker 1: but I shouldn't be, you know what I mean, Like,
Speaker 1: I hope you're confident. You're two time Pro bowler, You've
Speaker 1: been in this league since twenty twelve. You know you've
Speaker 1: been on playoff teams, You've been thousand yard rusher. I
Speaker 1: would hope that you're really confident. I actually said that.
Speaker 1: I was on one O five through the fan last night,
Speaker 1: and if you think back, it feels like ancient history
Speaker 1: at this point. But Alfred Morris joined this team before
Speaker 1: Zeke was drafted, and there was a lot of excitement
Speaker 1: about what he might be able to do behind this
Speaker 1: offensive line, like the I mean, people thought that he
Speaker 1: would have a career renaissance of sorts if he was
Speaker 1: the Bell cow back, and obviously it didn't work out
Speaker 1: that way because of Ezekiel Elliott. But I would hope
Speaker 1: that he's really confident that he can do some good things.
Speaker 1: I think he'll be fine, But like I said, I
Speaker 1: would hope he's more confident than I am. How confident Unick, Well,
Speaker 1: I think that I think that all three of them
Speaker 1: are gonna play. I mean, I don't think that they're
Speaker 1: gonna play. They're gonna do what Zeke does. But but
Speaker 1: I just think it's gonna come down to what the
Speaker 1: defense does. If the defense can keep them in the
Speaker 1: game and keep them to the point where they can't
Speaker 1: still run their offense, I think that these guys can
Speaker 1: still run the offense. I don't I agree with you.
Speaker 1: Mcfan's not going to get a ton of carries unless
Speaker 1: he makes the most of them early that they're not
Speaker 1: going to try to you know that they don't want
Speaker 1: that to happen. They want Morris, they want rod Smith.
Speaker 1: But if if McFadden gets in there and does things
Speaker 1: that these other guys aren't doing, then you know he's
Speaker 1: gonna play. He does have the explosiveness. I think we're
Speaker 1: forgetting a little bit about what happened in the preseason.
Speaker 1: I think he was. You know, there's no way that
Speaker 1: Morris was clearly better than McFadden. I think McFadden was,
Speaker 1: you know, had times wherever he was better, but he
Speaker 1: did fumble and then that that was the key, and
Speaker 1: that's always been the key for him. And that's what
Speaker 1: I would worry about with him not being playing for
Speaker 1: six games. All right, let's take our first break. When
Speaker 1: we come back from the break, we're gonna jump into
Speaker 1: the Kansas City defense. Dave will give us a scouting report.
Speaker 1: Amber and Nick will tell us about the one thing
Speaker 1: that stands out to them about this defense, specifically how
Speaker 1: it matches up with the Cowboys. Will do that when
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Speaker 1: saw a little bit of Cowboys versus Chiefs, and let's
Speaker 1: jump into the Chiefs defense. Yesterday we talked about the
Speaker 1: Chiefs offense pretty explosive. I think we all came out
Speaker 1: of that show a little bit wondering how this defense,
Speaker 1: how the Cowboys could match up against an offense like that.
Speaker 1: But let's look at the flip side of the Kansas
Speaker 1: City defense. Dave give us Scott a report on that defense. Well,
Speaker 1: if we bummed you out yesterday, I'm here to make
Speaker 1: you feel a little bit better today because it's funny
Speaker 1: you just like you just kind of get stuck in
Speaker 1: that mold we're talking about that yesterday where you're just like, Ah,
Speaker 1: the Jaguars are terrible. No, they're not. Like it's just
Speaker 1: been this recurring cycle for so long that you think
Speaker 1: that I think of or I thought of the Kansas
Speaker 1: City Chiefs as like this rugged, smash mouth defense where
Speaker 1: they'd have to quarterback. Yeah, they're not very good. They're
Speaker 1: not very good at all. They have the they head
Speaker 1: into this game with the thirtieth overall defense in the NFL.
Speaker 1: They're giving up three hundred and ninety two yards per game.
Speaker 1: I actually, while I was doing research for this, I
Speaker 1: read a gamer a game story from Monday night, and
Speaker 1: the story was about how the Chiefs defense got back
Speaker 1: on track against the Broncos, which they did. I mean,
Speaker 1: they got I think they had three sacks, they turned,
Speaker 1: they got five takeaways. But this story was like, they
Speaker 1: only allowed three hundred and sixty yards in this game.
Speaker 1: And like that was supposed to be good. I was like,
Speaker 1: that's not good, Like that's not something you should brag
Speaker 1: about in your game story. They are twenty eighth against
Speaker 1: the run, giving up one hundred and thirty one yards
Speaker 1: per game. They are twenty eighth against the pass, giving
Speaker 1: up two hundred and sixty one per game. Their nineteenth
Speaker 1: in scoring defense, giving up twenty three So scoring a
Speaker 1: decent bit better than yardage, which sounds a lot like
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. They're forcing opponents to kick field goals and
Speaker 1: they get takeaways. So with that in mind, there's a
Speaker 1: couple things that stand out to me. One, I think
Speaker 1: this defense shockingly missus Eric Berry a lot. He tore
Speaker 1: his achilles on in the fourth quarter of the first
Speaker 1: game of the season. Daniel Sorenson is the guy that's
Speaker 1: mainly responsible for replacing him. What's that? Oh yeah, I
Speaker 1: thought you said, or Darren no poor? Yeah? Um, so
Speaker 1: he's not a bad player, but he's not Eric but
Speaker 1: he's got here. Yeah, And I mean Eric Berry's an
Speaker 1: All Pro. He's great against he's a great tackler, he's
Speaker 1: great against the run, and I think you see him
Speaker 1: missing when it comes to them trying to stop the run.
Speaker 1: Um Sorensen's down in the box a lot. They do
Speaker 1: like he's like a almost like a heavy nickel. He's
Speaker 1: their run support safety. He's just not as good at
Speaker 1: it as Eric Berry would be. The other thing, the
Speaker 1: other two things I noticed, Um justin Houston again, kind
Speaker 1: of a hard guy to track because if this was
Speaker 1: like twenty fourteen, we'd be I mean, it's like JJ Watt,
Speaker 1: be real, real afraid. Um. Then he's got two injuries,
Speaker 1: two knee injuries that really limited him the last two years. However,
Speaker 1: he seems like he's on the come up, like I
Speaker 1: think he's I think he might be back because he's
Speaker 1: got seven and a half sacks through eight games. He
Speaker 1: had two against Denver a lot. Here's the other thing.
Speaker 1: I'm actually actually I wish I'd let off with this,
Speaker 1: to be honest, because I'm I'm aggravated because I spent
Speaker 1: the last five years listening to the Brian Broadesses of
Speaker 1: the world talk about the right end bull crap, Like
Speaker 1: all the good pass rushers in this league are lining
Speaker 1: up on the left side these days, like I'm going
Speaker 1: to capture the corner the right end. That's the most
Speaker 1: important position of bs because DeMarcus Lawrence is on the
Speaker 1: left side, Ryan Carrigan was on the left side, Von
Speaker 1: Miller's on the left side, and Justin Houston's about to
Speaker 1: be on the left side. So what do you think
Speaker 1: that is? I'm guessing. Well, I mean, obviously it's an
Speaker 1: easy answer. Obviously you want to take advantage of the
Speaker 1: lesser tackle, right But then why why has it been
Speaker 1: football one oh one for the last decade that the
Speaker 1: most important position is your right end? And because they
Speaker 1: think because you know there's a blind the blind side
Speaker 1: like like that matters, it does much. It does not, really, no,
Speaker 1: And I think a lot of them they want to
Speaker 1: go up they see this tackle, they see that tackle,
Speaker 1: they want to go up against them. Say, look at
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. It makes sense, which is why again going
Speaker 1: back to the draft. All right, I'm getting off topic,
Speaker 1: and I'm sorry, but people are like, well, Taco just
Speaker 1: he's probably not a right end, he probably doesn't have
Speaker 1: that quick twitch. And I'm like, I don't care. Can
Speaker 1: he play end at all? Can he play left end?
Speaker 1: Move him somewhere, do something creative instead of just talking
Speaker 1: about right end. So that's aggravating. Justin Houston is going
Speaker 1: to play left end, and it's going to be yet
Speaker 1: another tough matchup for Lyle Collins. I think he has
Speaker 1: the potential to wreck this thing for the Cowboys if
Speaker 1: he's playing the way that he can, which he's got
Speaker 1: seven and a half on the season. He had two
Speaker 1: on Monday nights, so that seems like something worth watching.
Speaker 1: When when he gets a sack, they are five and oh.
Speaker 1: This year, when he doesn't, they're one and two. So
Speaker 1: teams have been able to kind of control him obviously,
Speaker 1: and then he hasn't wrecked the game like you're saying, Um,
Speaker 1: d Ford, is there other rush linebacker out of injured
Speaker 1: right now out of Auburn? He he is. But I
Speaker 1: believe did he practice? He practice has limited yesterday? Um
Speaker 1: or actually I take that back. I think he did
Speaker 1: not practice. Did not. I don't think he practiced. I'd
Speaker 1: have to go back and look at that. You can
Speaker 1: go ahead. He's he's a tweenter type. He's he's gonna
Speaker 1: be the guy that's on Tyron Smith if he does play,
Speaker 1: which that's a win for Tyron Smith all day long.
Speaker 1: I think, um, the other guy that really stands out
Speaker 1: and in fact, it's probably dumb that I guess he
Speaker 1: did not practice. Did not that is that is something
Speaker 1: to watch, although really back injury, I would he's a
Speaker 1: he's a wash anyway, like de Ford. I'd be stunned
Speaker 1: if he's getting the better of Tyron Smith in this
Speaker 1: game based on what I watched. Um, Marcus Peters, you
Speaker 1: should probably know Marcus Peters. He's got seventeen interceptions since
Speaker 1: he was drafted in twenty fifth. Really really good player. Well,
Speaker 1: it seems like what was that a couple of weeks
Speaker 1: he goes. It seems like he got beat up a
Speaker 1: little bit a couple of weeks, like teams A team
Speaker 1: kind of took advantage of him a few weeks ago.
Speaker 1: Who was that that they played? They played oak They
Speaker 1: played Oakland, and I mean Oakland moved the ball and
Speaker 1: scored thirty points. Yeah, maybe I think it was him
Speaker 1: that got I saw him get beat a couple times
Speaker 1: for a touchdown, and I I wouldn't classify Marcus Peters
Speaker 1: at least not yet. I mean, he's a damn good cornerback,
Speaker 1: but he's not Patrick Peterson. Like you're just not gonna
Speaker 1: complete any passes on him. Like I don't you'll win some,
Speaker 1: you'll lose some, though, but he well, not like that.
Speaker 1: But he is a ball hawk. Like the ball finds him,
Speaker 1: he gets it. It's and it's not just picks he had.
Speaker 1: He recovered a strip and return it for a touchdown.
Speaker 1: Like he's just around the ball and he makes plays
Speaker 1: on the ball or you know, if the ball is
Speaker 1: tipped in his direction, he's going to find a way
Speaker 1: to it. So throw at him at your own risk, basically,
Speaker 1: which the other thing, they're right cool. I don't know
Speaker 1: why you would throw at him because their right cornerback
Speaker 1: is a disaster zone. Does he travel? Uh No, he
Speaker 1: mainly plays left. Okay, Terrence Mitchell, we all remember Terrence Spechel. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's had some he's had some really good games for them,
Speaker 1: but he's also had some dumpster fire efforts, which case
Speaker 1: against Trevor Simeon and a Denver passing attack that was
Speaker 1: not working. On Monday, he got benched for Kenneth Acker.
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's going to be a permanent
Speaker 1: switch or if it's just kind of one of those things.
Speaker 1: I don't think they have a solution that they like
Speaker 1: on the right side, and they're just kind of doing
Speaker 1: their best with what they got. So that's something I'm
Speaker 1: looking for. Maybe you would imagine that you can take
Speaker 1: advantage of that a decent amount. Peters has to travel
Speaker 1: with death, right, Well, that's kind of what I'm thinking,
Speaker 1: is like I just said, he stays on the left side.
Speaker 1: But like in my head, I'm like, are they really
Speaker 1: just gonna let dead line up against whatever's going on
Speaker 1: over there? Because that doesn't seem start with him. Yeah,
Speaker 1: which is whether but whether it's DEAs, whether it's Terrence Bryce, whatever,
Speaker 1: I think you can get some big wins over there,
Speaker 1: which is something I'm looking at, the big thing for them.
Speaker 1: So I'm looking at this and I'm like, so, how
Speaker 1: are they doing enough to win games if their defense
Speaker 1: is this porous, which I mean it really, it hadn't
Speaker 1: been good. They gave up one hundred and seventy six
Speaker 1: rushing yards to Levy on Bell and the Steelers, which
Speaker 1: I made sure to watch that game because I feel
Speaker 1: like that's how the Cowboys are going to play this thing.
Speaker 1: And he was just doing his thing. I think he
Speaker 1: ran the ball thirty two times for one hundred and
Speaker 1: seventy six yards. Ste Zeke this week, right, yeah, I
Speaker 1: wouldn't it, but there's still that Harold hell Mary. We
Speaker 1: talked about the Chiefs have and this it comes back
Speaker 1: to this. I think they have thirteen takeaways, which is okay,
Speaker 1: it's not amazing, but again, going back to the offense,
Speaker 1: only three turnovers, so they're plus ten in turnover differential,
Speaker 1: which I don't know. Something's got to give there right between.
Speaker 1: I mean, the Cowboys are pretty good with the ball.
Speaker 1: They're not very good at taking it away though, so
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be hard to win the turnover
Speaker 1: battle in this game when you consider the Chiefs. I
Speaker 1: like the Chiefs odds of getting some takeaways better than
Speaker 1: I like the Cowboys. Basically, that's what I'm saying. All right,
Speaker 1: let's go scatter report now, Amber Nick, I need one thing,
Speaker 1: If you could isolate one thing about this offense. I'm
Speaker 1: sorry about this defense. What would it be. We'll start
Speaker 1: first with you. Amber. Well, I kept looking at things
Speaker 1: that could possibly make me feel better about this game
Speaker 1: on that area, so I was looking. Without getting into
Speaker 1: all the numbers, I would say their defense is the
Speaker 1: worst in letting the opponent get their first downs, also
Speaker 1: letting rushing plays for ten plus yards, Nick, was that
Speaker 1: your point? Sorry, that does stand out, and and it's
Speaker 1: good to notice that because that does stand out, especially
Speaker 1: when they're not playing with Zeke and you wonder how
Speaker 1: they're going the ball, right, So that's gonna be very important.
Speaker 1: And also from the Cowboys offensive line, I think they're
Speaker 1: gonna really have to help our running backs right now.
Speaker 1: I'm making sure they open those holes for them to
Speaker 1: let them kind of get those yards because we do
Speaker 1: know that zek is the one guy that can go
Speaker 1: up against and get those extra one yard or two
Speaker 1: yards for those to get that first down. And I'm
Speaker 1: not feeling very confident about our running backs being able
Speaker 1: to do that as explosive as Zik has been able
Speaker 1: to do. So, so that's gonna be very important. And
Speaker 1: they're gonna have to take advantage of this of their
Speaker 1: defense not being able to really stop the rushing the
Speaker 1: run right now, and basically that's it. That would be
Speaker 1: the one thing. And again, the Cowboys have been very
Speaker 1: successful at scoring. They have scored pretty much over thirty
Speaker 1: points every game, right, I mean over the last month. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so they've been good at that. And also once they're
Speaker 1: inside the thirty yard, the Cowboys rank second. They're still
Speaker 1: in second place in the league of getting you know,
Speaker 1: touchdowns every time they're inside the thirty. So that's good
Speaker 1: for them, all right. Um, I'm gonna go flip to
Speaker 1: the side that actually some things that they do well.
Speaker 1: Kansas City's defense does well. You know when you're looking
Speaker 1: at you said inside the thirty. Um, and then let's
Speaker 1: go into the twenty. On the red zone. How about this,
Speaker 1: when when teams are on third down against the Chiefs
Speaker 1: inside the red zone, Chiefs are getting off the field
Speaker 1: nine I mean that they're only converting nine percent of
Speaker 1: those the teams that they're gonna now in the red zone,
Speaker 1: in the red zone on third down, the Chiefs are
Speaker 1: stopping them ninety one percent of the time. Wow. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And the league average, that's the league average is thirty
Speaker 1: six percent, which is about third down conversion average anyways.
Speaker 1: But when the Chiefs defense down there inside the twenty,
Speaker 1: teams are only getting nine percent of their third down conversion.
Speaker 1: So settling for field goals. And now you settle for
Speaker 1: field goals and you've got nu gent. Let's see, in
Speaker 1: the last week it was good in a bad situation,
Speaker 1: so it should be nice and you know, that's really
Speaker 1: an amazing number. We really pent of the time in
Speaker 1: the red zone they hold to a field goal, that's
Speaker 1: within the twenty they hold to a field goal. Well,
Speaker 1: I mean, but not necessarily, not necessarily, you can't just
Speaker 1: say it ninety one percent of the time they're holding
Speaker 1: to a field goal. They hold them to not a
Speaker 1: touch they're stopping them on third down. Some that doesn't
Speaker 1: necessarily mean you know, third and one from the one
Speaker 1: they stop them, doesn't mean on fourth and one they
Speaker 1: don't get the touchdown. But they are on third down
Speaker 1: for the most part, which is setting up for a
Speaker 1: field goal. So for the most part, most of the time. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and that that number, that ninety one percent, even if
Speaker 1: you factor in those few times that maybe they convert
Speaker 1: a fourth down, that's still is going to keep that
Speaker 1: number pretty high, probably thirty six exactly like that three times.
Speaker 1: There's some bad teams. That's nuts, that's crazy. Yeah. And
Speaker 1: and they're and they're bringing that average down to thirty six,
Speaker 1: you know, because think about how many teams are at
Speaker 1: nine percent. Yeah, So that that's amazing. So you don't
Speaker 1: want to get to third down, and the Cowboys do
Speaker 1: that a lot, especially without Ze, it's gonna be tough. Yeah,
Speaker 1: field goals aren't gonna cut it against these guys, and
Speaker 1: they're not. So that's and you know, that's one of
Speaker 1: the things I was going to point out with this team.
Speaker 1: I think that you were talking about Howard teams, you know,
Speaker 1: with this defense playing as they play, when you look
Speaker 1: at just the numbers, Howard teams still losing. It's really
Speaker 1: about the offense. This team is all predicated on pressuring
Speaker 1: the opponent, pressuring their offense to have to keep up
Speaker 1: with the scoring. Right. We've seen other teams in the
Speaker 1: NFL in past years where you have a really really
Speaker 1: explosive offense, the Dallas Cowboys, right, What it does is
Speaker 1: the defense is the benefactor of the fact that the
Speaker 1: offense puts so much pressure on the other team's offense
Speaker 1: and you fall behind by one score and you start
Speaker 1: panicking like we gotta make that up because that offense
Speaker 1: is going to be hard to stop them. And so
Speaker 1: not to mention the again, they don't do anything stupid
Speaker 1: to give the opponent an easy field. I mean to
Speaker 1: what two turnovers turnovers? Three no, I'm sorry, three no interceptions,
Speaker 1: three turnovers? Want well, Tyreek Hill, but Alex Smith has none. Yes,
Speaker 1: but yeah, I'm just saying. I mean the quarterback. They've
Speaker 1: turned the ball over three times in eight games. That's crazy.
Speaker 1: It is crazy. It's when you look at this team,
Speaker 1: I think, and that's where I keep going back to
Speaker 1: how did other teams that have beaten and beat them?
Speaker 1: I think the real key is can you run the
Speaker 1: ball enough to where you keep their offense off the
Speaker 1: field and give them limited opportunities? As you said, that's
Speaker 1: what the Steelers were able to do. They ran Leveon
Speaker 1: Bell a huge I mean, that's a large number of
Speaker 1: carries for any running back. But if you can do that,
Speaker 1: and you can do it effectively, now you keep their
Speaker 1: offense off the field, that gives you the best chance
Speaker 1: to And that's also and I don't know if this
Speaker 1: I don't see the Steelers as this defensive juggernaut either,
Speaker 1: but that I mean, that's about as napped as the
Speaker 1: Kansas City offense has looked all year too. I mean
Speaker 1: they scored thirteen points, a lot of three or now.
Speaker 1: It's a lot of not taking advantage of field position.
Speaker 1: So well, let's go back to what you said a
Speaker 1: little earlier. When you're talking about the you said, you know, how,
Speaker 1: what would you expect Cowboys gonna run the ball twenty
Speaker 1: six times this game? Actually, I kind of think it'll
Speaker 1: be a little bit more. What do you guys think?
Speaker 1: I think in a game like this, and as we're
Speaker 1: kind of evaluating this team, even though you don't have
Speaker 1: your stud running back, you got running backs that you
Speaker 1: think if they are confident in do you think that
Speaker 1: maybe this is a game where you, even if you
Speaker 1: do it by committee, you got to be rushing thirty
Speaker 1: plus in order to really have a chance at success here. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but you it's kind of the flip side. You have
Speaker 1: to have success to rush the ball thirty plus. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So I mean I always think teams are going to
Speaker 1: go into a game trying to run the ball. But
Speaker 1: if it's just second nine and then third and seven,
Speaker 1: then you throw, then you're not running and you're not
Speaker 1: getting off the field. So I think they're gonna try
Speaker 1: to run the ball. I think Jason Garrett will probably
Speaker 1: say yesterday and they'll say it today. We're gonna do
Speaker 1: what we do. But that's the kind of my point though,
Speaker 1: is if they're going to be successful, we'll just have
Speaker 1: to be a game where they run the ball a lot,
Speaker 1: because you're right, they're gonna have to run it effectively
Speaker 1: in order to keep running it. But is there chance
Speaker 1: for success gonna be their ability to run the ball,
Speaker 1: and if they don't run the ball, it's gonna be
Speaker 1: hard to win. Terrence Williams needs to make some plays.
Speaker 1: I mean, there's just no doubt about. He needs to
Speaker 1: make plays in this game. If Beasley's out there winning,
Speaker 1: those guys need to make plays. But I mean they
Speaker 1: really need something from that wide sever not just the
Speaker 1: set number two options, but did they need to spread
Speaker 1: the ball out and he needs to be able to
Speaker 1: make some plays. Then they need to be able to
Speaker 1: count on him. So I think he's my key player
Speaker 1: for this game because then they can kind of run
Speaker 1: the ball. You know, I think you saw it. There's
Speaker 1: no way Zeke's gonna rip off a seventy one yard
Speaker 1: run against the Rams like that. The defense was different
Speaker 1: with Morris in the game, and I think the defense
Speaker 1: will be different, so they need to kind of take
Speaker 1: advantage of that. Yeah, I agree, and I hear you, Derek. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, ideally you want to flirt with forty carries.
Speaker 1: I mean ideally, Yeah, but not only does it depend
Speaker 1: on how you're running the ball, probably defends on how
Speaker 1: your defense is doing against the Chiefs. I mean, if
Speaker 1: this is a track meet, then I just think that's
Speaker 1: not realistic to think that you know you're going to
Speaker 1: be you know, if they're down fourteen to three in
Speaker 1: this game right off the bat. I'm not saying you
Speaker 1: abandon the running game, but it's just harder to play
Speaker 1: that grind it out style of football like you saw
Speaker 1: against San Francisco. You have to be in control of
Speaker 1: the game to play that way. One thing I will
Speaker 1: say is if you go back to that would have
Speaker 1: been two thousand and fifteen, yea, they went when to
Speaker 1: Marco Murray last year, to Marco Murray's fourteen. If you
Speaker 1: go back to that, it's sad with time. I am
Speaker 1: bad with time, and I admit that. Yeah, But if
Speaker 1: you go back to that season, one of the things
Speaker 1: that was I think a trademark of this team is
Speaker 1: they will fall behind in games sometimes, and they would
Speaker 1: can they would then the next drive when they fall behind,
Speaker 1: they would commit to the run, like that would be
Speaker 1: a drive when they just run. Absolutely, I'll never run.
Speaker 1: I'll never forget them trailing twenty one to three in
Speaker 1: Saint Louis and just coming out and run all down
Speaker 1: their throats. But and I'm that you're right, like falling
Speaker 1: into a hole is no reason to give up on
Speaker 1: the running game if it's early. But if you're talking
Speaker 1: about thirty and forty carries and just run like just
Speaker 1: like a you know, we're staying the same. The only
Speaker 1: thing that opened it up for them to run the
Speaker 1: ball as much as they did in the second half
Speaker 1: against Washington was establishing a double digit lead and Washington
Speaker 1: not being able to move the ball in the ring.
Speaker 1: I mean, if if you're not in control of the game,
Speaker 1: and if I mean if Kansas City's dictating the pace
Speaker 1: that they go down the field, I just don't know
Speaker 1: how realistic that is. But I think this is a
Speaker 1: huge game, obviously for for Dak. I mean, this is
Speaker 1: the first time he's really going to go out there
Speaker 1: and play a game without Zeke, and all the pressure
Speaker 1: is going to be on him. And it just so
Speaker 1: happens that, you know, halfway up to the stands will
Speaker 1: be a guy that he whose job he took in
Speaker 1: Tony Romo, so and it'll be interesting to see how
Speaker 1: he plays this game. There's gonna be some kind of
Speaker 1: videos on the screen about Romo and welcome back and
Speaker 1: all that kind of stuff and and come back. He's
Speaker 1: handled everything that he's done, you know, every time there's
Speaker 1: been a big moment for Dak other than the first
Speaker 1: half of the Packer game, but for the most part,
Speaker 1: he's handled everything you know that he's done. And he
Speaker 1: played well in that in the playoff game on the
Speaker 1: in the second half. But we'll see how he does
Speaker 1: in this game. There would be a lot of a
Speaker 1: lot of eyes on him. Yeah. I mean, we've just
Speaker 1: spent a lot of time focusing on their run defense,
Speaker 1: but they're not great against the pass either. Like there,
Speaker 1: I mean, there should imagine this is a really really
Speaker 1: good football team that could use the number eleven overall pick.
Speaker 1: I mean, they're a lot like the Cowboys, but because
Speaker 1: they're getting nothing out of their front pie. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: I'm just saying they are. I mean, God, I just
Speaker 1: imagine their defense is Okay, what if they had like
Speaker 1: the number eleven overall pick a linebacker or a pass
Speaker 1: rusher or something or another corner. I hear what you're saying,
Speaker 1: but I don't know. I'm I drank the my Homes
Speaker 1: kool aid big time during the preseason. Like I think,
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna be a good player. I think
Speaker 1: he would be too. But if I'm Kansas City, he wouldn't.
Speaker 1: I would trade him. I no, no, I disagree. Big Wow,
Speaker 1: that was a big state. You think they would like that.
Speaker 1: Well it's too late now, but yeah, right, well yeah
Speaker 1: it's too late. But but why why would you have
Speaker 1: done that at that point? Well, I mean I would
Speaker 1: try to try to get some kind I mean, I
Speaker 1: try to get a first for him, a team like
Speaker 1: Cleveland or somebody that doesn't doesn't have anything, and I
Speaker 1: would try to get something like that for him, because
Speaker 1: I because Alex Smith is really good, and you're soul
Speaker 1: in the fact that they should keep Alex Smith for
Speaker 1: there for see for a little for a little while,
Speaker 1: and then you know you maybe you draft another pick.
Speaker 1: But I mean, I'm somebody's kicking themselves. I think for
Speaker 1: drafting him. I will say this though, I think the
Speaker 1: value only grows. I don't think you have to do
Speaker 1: it this year. I think you give him another training
Speaker 1: camp and if he performs in next year's preseason like
Speaker 1: you performed in this year's preseason. Yeah, what you can
Speaker 1: get for Patrick Mahons Mahomes after that is probably more
Speaker 1: than what you could have gotten right now. Probably. I mean,
Speaker 1: Alex Smith is playing at the peak of his abilities
Speaker 1: right now, and I'm not one hundred percent convinced it's
Speaker 1: good enough. Really well, yeah, I mean we have you
Speaker 1: got to prove it. The Chiefs have been good for
Speaker 1: four or five years at this point, and I think
Speaker 1: they have like two playoff wins against not great. Has
Speaker 1: that been on him? We don't, I mean a little bit. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean you're not. We have not seen a guy
Speaker 1: that's on that like Aaron Rodgers level of putting a
Speaker 1: team on his back. He's a good quarterback. Yeah right,
Speaker 1: we have not on a lot of guys in the league,
Speaker 1: just to be fair that of that. But but what
Speaker 1: I'm saying is potentially you're ceiling with Mahomes could be
Speaker 1: so much higher. If he's what they hope he is.
Speaker 1: I would never get rid of that. I would. I mean,
Speaker 1: if he keeps progressing, I would hand him the keys.
Speaker 1: Because the flip side of that is like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: how much crazy better does this offense look? With this
Speaker 1: freaky Texas tech kid who can run, run around in
Speaker 1: the pocket and has this insane arm. I mean, I don't.
Speaker 1: I'm very intrigued by that guy, and they don't need
Speaker 1: him right now, but I think they're gonna be happy
Speaker 1: they My problem with him is they didn't win in college.
Speaker 1: He wasn't really a winner. I mean, he was a
Speaker 1: gutsy fun player to watch, but they didn't win. In fact,
Speaker 1: I believe he started a game that they lost sixty
Speaker 1: six to ten at Iowa State. So I don't I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, I mean, I don't put a ton
Speaker 1: of stock in Kellen Moore getting fifty wins at Boise
Speaker 1: State and how it translates to the NFL. But also
Speaker 1: at the same time, I don't like my star quarterback
Speaker 1: going five and six and missing a bowl game in
Speaker 1: a football you know, in college football where everybody who
Speaker 1: breathes can get into a bowl game. I mean, there's
Speaker 1: an especially for us. I'm just saying, I mean, we're
Speaker 1: getting were I mean fun to watch. I like him,
Speaker 1: he's a you know, gunslinger type player, but I just Reese,
Speaker 1: I mean Dak Dak and Deshaun Watson. I mean that's
Speaker 1: the blueprint of what you want in terms of But
Speaker 1: I mean, like, what did Aaron Rodgers win at Cow?
Speaker 1: Like Cow was good while he was there, but it's
Speaker 1: not like he was racking up trophies. I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: people said the same thing about Peyton when he was
Speaker 1: at Tennessee, like he was a good quarterback, a really
Speaker 1: good quarterback. But they ultimately didn't really win anything of consequence,
Speaker 1: did they. No, they won, They won one SEC title
Speaker 1: while he was there, I think, but then they never
Speaker 1: were national championship they won, Okay, I'm not talking about
Speaker 1: the national champion, just saying get your team in a
Speaker 1: bowl game. It's still is Texas Tech though, right right,
Speaker 1: Like the talent around him is not gonna be well
Speaker 1: and the threat and the thing is is all those
Speaker 1: guys at Texas Tech, all of them have were not
Speaker 1: not really pro quarterback. You didn't like Cliff Kingsbury, He
Speaker 1: wasn't a pro quarterback. I know, but well, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I think Mahomes is unique among the guys that have
Speaker 1: come out of there, and personally, okay, I do too.
Speaker 1: I think he'll be okay. But the way Alex Smith
Speaker 1: is playing and what they need on defense. I would
Speaker 1: have man, there's a scout in that department that's like
Speaker 1: I knew we should have gone defense drafted in the
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Speaker 1: the Loom. Sorry, sorry, Michael Jordan, Hey, we mentioned we
Speaker 1: mentioned um off air. We were talking about Derek Johnson's
Speaker 1: a linebacker for the Kansas cy Chiefs. Has been in
Speaker 1: the NFL probably, I don't know, maybe as long as
Speaker 1: you've been alive, Dave. That's not true. He was drafted,
Speaker 1: drafted five. He's been around a long time. You actually
Speaker 1: were telling an interesting story there. Well, I remember you
Speaker 1: busted him my office on draft day. Not very happy
Speaker 1: that they selected some dude. Uh, instead of well, I mean,
Speaker 1: what has Troy State ever really done? I mean, are
Speaker 1: they going to produce any player that's good? So now
Speaker 1: we don't. We don't need this guy at eleventh overall,
Speaker 1: DeMarcus Ware. Derek Johnson's a guy that I liked because
Speaker 1: back then I was trying to get it prepared for
Speaker 1: the who we might draft, and I had to go
Speaker 1: and search the internet and steal photos off the internet.
Speaker 1: Probably do it back then, Yeah, I could, And so
Speaker 1: I found three or four with him with the football,
Speaker 1: Like Derek Johnson. There is in the orange jersey with
Speaker 1: the ball. There he is scoring a touchdown in a
Speaker 1: white jersey. I'm like, Ah, this guy's got the ball.
Speaker 1: That's who we need all the time, all the time.
Speaker 1: So I was like, what else, what else do we need?
Speaker 1: I mean, who do we have in the middle there?
Speaker 1: Scott Fajita, I mean who, I don't know. I don't
Speaker 1: even if that was Scott Shanley. Yeah, maybe you just
Speaker 1: named two Saints linebackers from that era that came from
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. Certainly came started with the Cowboys. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: I don't know if Vegeta started with the Geta was
Speaker 1: awesome for the Saints, so I won't hear it. Shanley
Speaker 1: was okay, Stanley was Shandley came through the Cowboys first
Speaker 1: and then ended up there. Yeah, Scott no Vegeta. I
Speaker 1: just like that name reminds me of GOK Did you
Speaker 1: just say no? Yeah, Dragon ball Z for the one,
Speaker 1: but it's spelled differently, but the sound Yeah whatever, for sure.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Brady James, I know you were on the team.
Speaker 1: Sometimes I lose my mind. Was he was there in
Speaker 1: two thousand and five? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, he was there.
Speaker 1: What do you get drafted two thousand and four, fourth
Speaker 1: round pick two thousand and four or daddy? Derek Johnson
Speaker 1: was always just like he's like that quintessential badass linebacker
Speaker 1: that you wanted on your team, like, and he's it's
Speaker 1: been still doing It's been like thirteen years and he's
Speaker 1: still doing it. He's he's obviously dropped off a little
Speaker 1: from what he was, but still a productive player. I
Speaker 1: would imagine, like I don't know for sure, but I
Speaker 1: would guess he's probably a Chiefs Ring of Honor guy
Speaker 1: when he finally retires, when you probably All of Famer
Speaker 1: like DeMarcus Ware. But what was that look for? I
Speaker 1: was just thinking we went to the Chiefs, and I
Speaker 1: mean everybody is in the Chiefs. Was that one of
Speaker 1: those stadiums, we really had like three rings, yes, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I didn't know. I like remember sometimes like we I remember,
Speaker 1: we make fun of like the Rams because like they're
Speaker 1: well when they were in Saint Louis, they had dudes
Speaker 1: from la and never and like the Air, the Cardinals
Speaker 1: have guys from the other Cardinals teams that never even
Speaker 1: played in Phoenix. But as I would assume does Tennessee,
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, but like the Chiefs actually have like real
Speaker 1: deal history, So I mean, I would imagine that their
Speaker 1: ring of honors pretty prestigious. Elvis guys, I think. I
Speaker 1: think it was a lot of guys. That was the
Speaker 1: issue was that had a ton of guys. It was like, man,
Speaker 1: that's a lot of guys to say they all deserve
Speaker 1: to be in and this is not this is not
Speaker 1: a franchise that has won a ton of championships, right,
Speaker 1: Don't you got a ton of guys in your ring
Speaker 1: of honor? That seemed to I just want to say,
Speaker 1: Snoop Menace, remember him, Snoop Menace? I do remember Snoop.
Speaker 1: He's in the Ring of honor for them? He no
Speaker 1: say wow, Anthony for I don't know, might be Derek
Speaker 1: Derrick Thomas probably is, yeah, I would guess, and rightfully,
Speaker 1: so what about Christian Nakoye? I would actually love watching
Speaker 1: Christian You realizing we have throwback Thursday, Um, that's probably
Speaker 1: up right now. Last time the Chiefs played here, Last
Speaker 1: time the Chiefs played here, ground wasn't even moved over
Speaker 1: there at the stadium. There was no at and T Stadium.
Speaker 1: Long Tony Romo had never thrown a pass in the NFL. Wait,
Speaker 1: when when was the last of all year? Was? The
Speaker 1: Chiefs are the only team that I've never played here
Speaker 1: at Aten They started breaking ground about oh six, We
Speaker 1: opened it in No. Nine. I guess I'm trying to
Speaker 1: figure out. Why wouldn't they have played in oh nine?
Speaker 1: There was a weird there was. Yeah, something happened in No. Nine.
Speaker 1: That will occasionally. No, no, no, something happened in thirteen
Speaker 1: or twelve. When when was the game that they would
Speaker 1: have been? Yes and right, yeah, they should have played
Speaker 1: here in twenty thirteen thirteen, But but they they didn't.
Speaker 1: I don't know why. It's something switched with Oakland. There's
Speaker 1: sometimes you'll see like weird quirks. So the algorithm for
Speaker 1: the scheduling is you play each AFC division every four years,
Speaker 1: and it alternates, so like, you know, we play the
Speaker 1: Chiefs here for every eight years. You should be at right,
Speaker 1: But every now and then you'll see a weird quirk
Speaker 1: where you go back to back and I don't know why.
Speaker 1: I think I remember it being something something with Oakland's stadium,
Speaker 1: something with their baseball stadium. I don't have to exactly
Speaker 1: what happened, but the Cowboys ended up having to play
Speaker 1: at home against Oakland. It is a long time and
Speaker 1: that's why. That's the point of what you were saying
Speaker 1: earlier about when Kansas City Chiefs fans that live near
Speaker 1: this area, they haven't been able to see their team
Speaker 1: here in a long time. You know, when this came
Speaker 1: out on the schedule, I'm sure they will all in.
Speaker 1: And it's not it's not just that too. It's people
Speaker 1: that live in Kansas City that want to go to
Speaker 1: a game and this is an easy flight. It's a
Speaker 1: rather cheap flight, and you know it's coming. And Kansas
Speaker 1: City and Dallas have like this weird relationship, Like that's
Speaker 1: something I've learned since I moved here. They're almost like, well,
Speaker 1: you know the history of that, right, Well, no, if
Speaker 1: you don't, you're gonna get to go to Five Points Blue.
Speaker 1: And they have a nice little story about there's a trophy.
Speaker 1: There is a trophy. Yeah, I know the history of
Speaker 1: like the franchises and the Hunt family and the Jones family.
Speaker 1: But I just mean in general, like these two cities
Speaker 1: as a whole are like weirdly linked. Maybe it's like
Speaker 1: the railroads from back in the day or whatever, but
Speaker 1: like it seems like people from Kansas City move here
Speaker 1: for work or vice versa, or you know, it's just
Speaker 1: not a hard distance to travel. So that's kind of
Speaker 1: how I think Denver is too. Like I know a
Speaker 1: lot of people that their families have moved between Dallas
Speaker 1: and Denver. There's like this I don't know, this weird
Speaker 1: kind of just relationship where yeah, if you're from here,
Speaker 1: there's a chance that maybe at some point you'll end
Speaker 1: up about Dallas not so much. Although real quick, can
Speaker 1: I at least give a little shout out. I'm not
Speaker 1: a baseball fan, so I'm not gonna pretend to be one,
Speaker 1: but just from my hometown, it was nice to see
Speaker 1: them get a win last night in the World Series
Speaker 1: that I know the city's going to be very very
Speaker 1: happy for the rest of the week, probably the rest
Speaker 1: of the best World Series ever was know well, right
Speaker 1: up until that dud of a Game seven. I mean,
Speaker 1: I was rooting for the Dodgers, but like, I'm not
Speaker 1: like heartbroken about it, but like I just it was
Speaker 1: boring game. Yeah, I just wish it had been for
Speaker 1: as many fireworks as were in a lot of the
Speaker 1: other games. It was just you were I know, I
Speaker 1: was expecting last night it was gonna be just like
Speaker 1: this crazy the Dodger ten base Runners. It was just not.
Speaker 1: I mean, it was a good defensive game on Houston's party,
Speaker 1: but just wasn't as wild or crazy as all the
Speaker 1: other ones. I was rooting for Dallas Cowboys dot Com
Speaker 1: always and forever, rooting for the alumni of the website.
Speaker 1: And if I had we had a chance to maybe
Speaker 1: get a World Series, right mister Roland Kavner working for
Speaker 1: the the Dodgers. Dodgers, Yeah, was he gonna get a ring?
Speaker 1: I don't know, but it depends on how that works,
Speaker 1: but it would have been nice. Oh well, plus, you
Speaker 1: know Rangers, right, I'm Rangers. If you a Rangers fan
Speaker 1: cannot root for Houston I'm I'm happy. Still don't really
Speaker 1: like how that all that went down with the Houston
Speaker 1: and the Rangers and the Rangers getting a bad deal
Speaker 1: out of that, which one, what are you talking about?
Speaker 1: The Yeah about the what they should have done for
Speaker 1: the hurricane and the Rangers got a real bad rap
Speaker 1: for I thought for no reason. But whatever, happy for them, good,
Speaker 1: it's good, happy, happy, happy for the city. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that was crazy. I believe it. Sports Hills traded three
Speaker 1: years ago? Has I mean, what's been a slow news week?
Speaker 1: They just the twenty seventeen the World Series champions Houston Astros,
Speaker 1: and didn't they predict the MVP as well? I thought
Speaker 1: I saw somebody to treat that. I don't know about that.
Speaker 1: Maybe he was on the cover. I don't know if
Speaker 1: they predicted him to, but he was, but still putting
Speaker 1: him on the cover, Like that's that's a pretty big
Speaker 1: it's a pretty big Paul years ago? Right again, do
Speaker 1: it again if they're still a magazine in twenty keep
Speaker 1: it going, right and keep it going all right, let's
Speaker 1: get let's try to get a couple questions if we can,
Speaker 1: and we're give me something from Twitter. Can they can
Speaker 1: the Cowboys actually hand the ball to Switzer on the
Speaker 1: jet sweep this week. Ryan Switzer is He's interesting because
Speaker 1: we don't know for sure if Cole Beasley's even gonna play,
Speaker 1: so he might he might have a bigger role this
Speaker 1: week out of necessity. I mean, that's something to watch.
Speaker 1: As the week goes on, we'll see if Bees gets
Speaker 1: into practice. I would like to see them continue to
Speaker 1: improve his role in the offense. I don't know if
Speaker 1: they actually will, but something to watch, especially if Beasley
Speaker 1: can't play. I'm telling you the best guy to run
Speaker 1: that is McFadden. He is the best guy to run
Speaker 1: that play. I don't know about up the middle or whatever,
Speaker 1: but my guy Bryce, I don't think so. He's the
Speaker 1: long strider, takes too long get up to speed, pick
Speaker 1: him up and put him down quicker than that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'd like Dez doing it because I think des can
Speaker 1: truck some people over there, you know, if he gets
Speaker 1: in that mode where he's mad. Of course, if he
Speaker 1: was going to do it yesterday, he might have been
Speaker 1: able to He might have been able to have a
Speaker 1: big game if he was running the ball yesterday. He
Speaker 1: seemed a little upset in the locker room. That was Tuesday,
Speaker 1: but whatever, yeah, you know, probably was set yesterday too.
Speaker 1: I actually think I actually am hoping at least that
Speaker 1: they will do a lot of different things in the
Speaker 1: running game, not just that that jet sweep, but I'm
Speaker 1: hoping they do a little bit more of the zone read,
Speaker 1: use the quarterback, running the ball. I think they got
Speaker 1: to be they gotta be really diverse in what they do,
Speaker 1: because I don't think you have the kind of running back,
Speaker 1: like I said yesterday, when you have a Zko back
Speaker 1: there anything else that you do, you would think it's
Speaker 1: not going to necessarily be better than running Zeke. So
Speaker 1: it kind of makes you say, well, just give the
Speaker 1: ball to Zeke. But in this instance, I think if
Speaker 1: you the more diverse your running game is, the more
Speaker 1: you can create these misdirection type opportunities and do things
Speaker 1: that that kind of catch the defense. I think that
Speaker 1: gives even your running backs a little more opportunity to do,
Speaker 1: to do a little more when they have opportunities. So
Speaker 1: I'd like to see more than even just the jet sweep.
Speaker 1: I'd like to see them a lot seem to do
Speaker 1: a lot of different things. Maybe jet see with a
Speaker 1: couple of different guys, just again give you some diversity
Speaker 1: in your running game in order for the Cowboys to
Speaker 1: win this game. Why would you say it's more important
Speaker 1: third down conversions on offense or third down stops on defense. Hmm,
Speaker 1: it's kind of I mean, they're both important. Third down
Speaker 1: conversions because I just keep keep, just keep the Chiefs
Speaker 1: off the field. Don't put it in your defense's hands
Speaker 1: to have to make stops. Just hold the ball down
Speaker 1: stops because you can score on first and second down.
Speaker 1: If you're stopping them on third down, though you're probably
Speaker 1: getting off the field, that doesn't necessarily mean on the
Speaker 1: on the flip side that you can go score. So
Speaker 1: I guess that's why I hear your argument. That argument
Speaker 1: makes me say third down conversions because I feel like
Speaker 1: you're probably not going to stop this offense a whole
Speaker 1: lot anyway. But if you're able to keep converting third
Speaker 1: downs yourself, that keeps you on the field, That gives
Speaker 1: you an opportunity to keep the ball and keep their
Speaker 1: offense off the field, limit their opportunities and if they
Speaker 1: get if they end up with seven opportunities in the game,
Speaker 1: eight opportunities in the game, as opposed to ten or eleven.
Speaker 1: That's probably a good thing for the Cowboys, right, It's
Speaker 1: that whole you know. It's why, it's why one of
Speaker 1: my least favorite phrases in football is that playing to
Speaker 1: win playing not to lose. It's the same thing. Really,
Speaker 1: I mean, it is the same thing. We can do it.
Speaker 1: We've done that before, Like we can do an hour
Speaker 1: on that if we wanted to. I hate that. I
Speaker 1: disagree with you as vehemently as possible, but I mean,
Speaker 1: tune in tomorrow. Okay. It's the same thing, it really is.
Speaker 1: The result is the same. You win or you lose.
Speaker 1: So if you're playing not to lose, then you were
Speaker 1: playing to win. All Right, We appreciate you guys us.
Speaker 1: We're back tomorrow. We're gonna wrap this thing up. This
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