1 00:00:00,880 --> 00:00:08,639 Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. It is doomsday for Didty. 2 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:12,799 Speaker 1: That's right, the trial starting today. I'm Nancy Grace. This 3 00:00:12,920 --> 00:00:15,480 Speaker 1: is Crime Stories. Thank you for being with us. 4 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:18,320 Speaker 2: Did He's big day in court looms as a last 5 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:20,919 Speaker 2: minute plea deal from prosecutors is turned down by the 6 00:00:21,040 --> 00:00:25,400 Speaker 2: rapper and jury selections started today, the same day as 7 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 2: Diddy's old celebrity friends are set to gather on the 8 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 2: luxurious Fifth Avenue Costume Institute for the met galap. 9 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:33,400 Speaker 3: Doomsday for Didy. 10 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:38,960 Speaker 1: The trial starting now, jury selection underway this as Sean 11 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:44,760 Speaker 1: comes turns down a plea deal this morning, comes in 12 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 1: the courtroom flanked by a pailanx of lawyers. That's always 13 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 1: a bad look in front of a jury because they're. 14 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:57,120 Speaker 3: Like, WHOA you have that many lawyers? You need a 15 00:00:57,240 --> 00:01:01,520 Speaker 3: fleet of lawyers to get your rear out of a sling. 16 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:04,480 Speaker 1: WHOA joining me in All star panel, But let's go 17 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 1: straight to the court house. Standing by is Lauren Conlin. Lauren, 18 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 1: thank you for being with us. Co host Primetime Crime 19 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:16,840 Speaker 1: on YouTube. Lauren, what's happening? Start at the beginning this 20 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:18,120 Speaker 1: morning by Nancy. 21 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:21,399 Speaker 4: Yes, I am outside five hundred Pearl Street, the very 22 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 4: courthouse where Diddy will be tried on five different federal 23 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:26,360 Speaker 4: accounts of sex trafficking. 24 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:27,199 Speaker 3: It was a. 25 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:30,400 Speaker 4: Scene out here, people coming out of the courthouse screaming. 26 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:32,839 Speaker 4: We didn't really know what was going on, but there 27 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:35,320 Speaker 4: is a lot of press out here, a lot of 28 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:39,360 Speaker 4: police presence, and jury's election is expected to last about 29 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:39,759 Speaker 4: a week. 30 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 5: You know. 31 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:43,840 Speaker 1: It's the image to Robert Crispin on the case from 32 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 1: the get go, private investigator, former DEA, former vice former 33 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 1: homicide Federal Task Force officer, US Department of Justice. Robert, 34 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 1: it's always a bad look when the jury comes in 35 00:01:56,680 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 1: and now this is the impaneling jury. This is sixty 36 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 1: to one hundred people. They're gonna whittle down to twelve jurrars. 37 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 1: But when they look over at the defense and he's 38 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 1: got a fleet an army of lawyers that they're like, 39 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 1: it takes that many lawyers to get your rear end out. 40 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 3: Of the sling. You've gotten it into bad look. 41 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 6: Yeah, it's going to be pounded into their head. You know, 42 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 6: you're innocent until proven guilty. 43 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:21,919 Speaker 5: But they're going to look up and they. 44 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 6: Be like, wow, that's a lot of lawyers. 45 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:26,239 Speaker 4: What is going on here? 46 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:27,520 Speaker 7: What am I going to learn. 47 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:30,079 Speaker 1: You know you're taking a look at Shawn Combs in 48 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:34,000 Speaker 1: some of his finery. I can't wait to hear how 49 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:37,760 Speaker 1: he dudes up in court again, joining me an all 50 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:42,840 Speaker 1: star panel. This on the eve of Shawn Comes rejecting 51 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:43,920 Speaker 1: a plea deal. 52 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 3: Listen. 53 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:47,360 Speaker 2: At his last pre trial hearing, prosecutors revealed that Seawan 54 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:51,720 Speaker 2: Diddycombs had one last chance to avoid trial, but rejected 55 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:56,080 Speaker 2: a plea deal. Federal prosecutor Madison Schmeiser disclosed that the 56 00:02:56,240 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 2: deal was offered, but remained secretive about the terms. Instead, 57 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:03,120 Speaker 2: jury will be called to hear at least three weeks 58 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 2: of graphic witness testimony regarding year's worth of beatings, drug 59 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 2: fueled coercive sex marathons, and multiple rapes. 60 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:16,120 Speaker 1: Joining US high profile lawyer Eric Fattus, TV Legal analyst 61 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:22,360 Speaker 1: founding partner Varner Fattus Elite Legal, rejecting a plea deal. 62 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:23,799 Speaker 3: You know what I think is behind that. 63 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 1: I think he could not admit that what he did 64 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 1: was wrong. That he is guilty, no matter how sweet 65 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 1: the deal, unless it was straight probation. 66 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:37,640 Speaker 3: Sean Comes is not. 67 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 1: Going to take a deal, Eric Fattus, even though it 68 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 1: may be in his best interest. 69 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 3: He just shot himself in the foot. 70 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:44,440 Speaker 7: Well, Nancy, you know, as you know, he's proclaimed his 71 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:48,440 Speaker 7: innocence from the beginning, and a deal would likely involve 72 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 7: years in prison. I would think, you know, he's not 73 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 7: the youngest guy in the world, and so if he 74 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 7: did take a plea deal, that could be a death 75 00:03:56,480 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 7: sentence for him professionally. You know, he has all of 76 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 7: these tracks and brand deals and that kind of thing, 77 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 7: or at least he had them, and to try to 78 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:06,560 Speaker 7: have some semblance of the possibility of getting those later, 79 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:08,840 Speaker 7: he would need to prevail at this priss and a 80 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 7: plea deal would not allow for them. 81 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what, the death now is ringing doomsday 82 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:19,640 Speaker 1: for Diddy. You're saying that if he pled guilty that 83 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:22,800 Speaker 1: would ruin his what public persona? 84 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:26,599 Speaker 3: Are you kidding me? That's ruined? What what are you 85 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 3: talking about? 86 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 1: He's already been charged under multi count federal indictment of drugging. 87 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:31,839 Speaker 3: You know what. 88 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 1: Straight out to Lynn Shaw joining me, founder executive director 89 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 1: Lyn's Warriors, dedicated to ending sex violence on girls and women. 90 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 3: His public image, Hey, do we. 91 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:46,120 Speaker 1: Have that picture of Shawn Comes wearing a crown at 92 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:50,479 Speaker 1: one of his free coughs. What public image, Lynn Shaw, 93 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:52,440 Speaker 1: There is no public image. 94 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:56,479 Speaker 8: Dirty Dinny is going down. We are so happy and 95 00:04:56,520 --> 00:05:00,840 Speaker 8: grateful for today because finally, finally victims and survivors can 96 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:03,479 Speaker 8: see some sort of accountability that it got this far. 97 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 8: And yes, it'll be very graphic in court, but it's 98 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 8: about time the public. Here's the truths and the realities 99 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:13,080 Speaker 8: of what goes on with sex trafficking. We have to 100 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 8: all get on board. They are all waiting, and not 101 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 8: only victims and survivors. I guess alleged I'm supposed to 102 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:20,919 Speaker 8: say of this criminal. I guess I'm supposed to say alleged, 103 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:23,559 Speaker 8: but I'm saying criminal. We here in New York City. 104 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:26,719 Speaker 8: I can't tell you the messages I am receiving. This 105 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 8: is finally happening. We've been waiting eight months, powerful man. 106 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 8: There is no public image, there are no brand deals. 107 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 8: He crossed the wrong people, and Dirty Diddy is done. 108 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:39,440 Speaker 8: Now it's time for the public to weigh in. And 109 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 8: you know what, this is going. 110 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 5: Down down down. 111 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:46,240 Speaker 3: This is the state's case to screw up. 112 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 1: They have got witnesses, they have got freak off videos. 113 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:55,360 Speaker 1: What Sean Combs has is a very powerful and charismatic 114 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:58,440 Speaker 1: presence in the courtroom, and he's got a fleet of 115 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 1: some of the best lawyers in the country. 116 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:03,480 Speaker 3: Number One, he turns down a plea deal. 117 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:08,840 Speaker 1: This literally as the jury is filing in, drinking in. 118 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:10,839 Speaker 3: Shawn Combs and all of his lawyers. 119 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:15,359 Speaker 1: This after another failed bid to delay the trial. 120 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:17,120 Speaker 3: Listen Sean Ditty. 121 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 9: Combs loses his bid to delay trial and jury selection 122 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:23,719 Speaker 9: begins as celebrities did. He once bumped arms with Gather 123 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:27,240 Speaker 9: from the met Gala. Judge Arun Supermanian has allowed Combs 124 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:30,560 Speaker 9: to ditch his prison clothes for the proceedings where prosecutors 125 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:33,040 Speaker 9: plan to prove to a jury. Combs used his many 126 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:37,440 Speaker 9: business enterprises to facilitate free COFs featuring male prostitutes and 127 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 9: women coerced into the performance. Opening statements are expected on 128 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:42,160 Speaker 9: May twelfth. 129 00:06:41,880 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 3: Straight back to the courthouse. 130 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:46,680 Speaker 1: Standing there with us, Lauren Connlin, Lauren, how long do 131 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 1: we believe jury selection will take? 132 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:52,440 Speaker 5: Jury selection is supposed to take a week. 133 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:56,160 Speaker 4: Nancy, But I think it's going to be pretty difficult here. 134 00:06:56,240 --> 00:06:59,119 Speaker 4: I mean, Diddy is pretty well known in New York City. 135 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 4: If you remember, he was actually once given the key 136 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:04,760 Speaker 4: to New York City by the mayor. But as far 137 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:08,800 Speaker 4: as the questionnaire goes for the jury, there have been 138 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 4: filings that said that the potential jurors will be asked 139 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:15,960 Speaker 4: how they feel about multiple sex partners, how they feel 140 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:18,920 Speaker 4: about hip hop artists and the hip hop industry. 141 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 5: They will be asked about if they have had. 142 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:27,440 Speaker 4: Any experience being sexually assaulted, and this will actually be 143 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:31,440 Speaker 4: written or verbal depending on what the jury purfers. And 144 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 4: Sean Holmes will be present for all of that questioning. 145 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, the questions are very invasive on the jury, Lauren, 146 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:40,600 Speaker 1: what does Diddy look like? 147 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 4: Well, Diddy walked in wearing a dark crew neck sweater 148 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:44,800 Speaker 4: and a dress shirt. 149 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:46,520 Speaker 5: He was not wearing a tie. 150 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:49,440 Speaker 4: We know that he had a big win where he 151 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 4: was granted the ability to wear his own clothes. He's 152 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 4: a fashionable guy. He will be able to switch up, yes, 153 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:59,080 Speaker 4: between five dress shirts, by sweaters, by socks, and two 154 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 4: pairs of shoes without laces. And yeah, I'm thinking here, 155 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 4: I mean, he must be pretty crushing. I see the 156 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:09,520 Speaker 4: met Galla tonight, his friend Lebron James ho shairing it 157 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 4: and he's stuck in federal courts. 158 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 1: You know what, Doctor Bethany Marshall joining us. Renow Psycho 159 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:18,239 Speaker 1: Analy's joining us out of la author of deal Breaker. 160 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:22,120 Speaker 1: You can see her now on Peacock, Doctor Bethany. That 161 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 1: has got to her because there is Sean Combs in 162 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:30,960 Speaker 1: a federal courtroom, you know, dressed up, all these jurrors 163 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:32,960 Speaker 1: coming in to take a look at him and his 164 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:36,880 Speaker 1: fleet of lawyers. While across town the met Gala is 165 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 1: going on, and he has always been a star there. 166 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 1: Remember all the outfits. Oh there he is laying on 167 00:08:43,400 --> 00:08:51,480 Speaker 1: the steps. Okay, capes, walking canes, dripping in jewelry. 168 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:55,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, there we go. The met Gala is his thing. Now, 169 00:08:55,320 --> 00:08:55,960 Speaker 3: see it's his thing. 170 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 10: You know that necklace he's wearing right there that looks 171 00:08:58,280 --> 00:09:03,520 Speaker 10: like it's about an eighty carrot diamond cross necklace. I 172 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:06,240 Speaker 10: think he's probably experiencing what we would say in my 173 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:10,760 Speaker 10: field a narcissistic injury, meaning in his world he's king. 174 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 10: That's why he wears the king's crown. So the fact 175 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:20,560 Speaker 10: that he's in a cell with five outsets available to 176 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:23,959 Speaker 10: him is going to be very injurious. P Diddy thinks 177 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:28,040 Speaker 10: he's right. He still thinks he's the ring leader of 178 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 10: the circus of filth and that everybody's. 179 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:30,880 Speaker 3: Going to follow along. 180 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:33,400 Speaker 10: And that's why he won't take a plea because with 181 00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:38,760 Speaker 10: people like p Ditty, they are so aggressively certain that 182 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:42,680 Speaker 10: their position is correct that they don't back down. In fact, 183 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 10: they really take on the fight. You would think P. 184 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 10: Ditty would go into court and try to manipulate by 185 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:51,080 Speaker 10: t taking the plea, but he's not going to do that. 186 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:53,679 Speaker 10: He's not going to would be manipulative. He's going to 187 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:56,560 Speaker 10: insist that he is right and that everybody should conform 188 00:09:56,640 --> 00:10:00,080 Speaker 10: to him. He's probably doing that with his attorneys right now. Well, 189 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:02,800 Speaker 10: and that's going to make this trial fascinating. 190 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:07,839 Speaker 3: You know, Eric Fattas, that was always a moment for 191 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:09,400 Speaker 3: me in the courtroom when. 192 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:12,240 Speaker 1: The jurors to being paneled. I don't mean the twelve 193 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 1: on the Pettit jury. I mean the huge panel from 194 00:10:15,280 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 1: which you select the Pettit jury of twelve. 195 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 3: That was always a moment. 196 00:10:19,520 --> 00:10:22,840 Speaker 1: If I were to have been nervous in courtroom, that 197 00:10:22,880 --> 00:10:26,840 Speaker 1: would have been that that moment, because that's something you 198 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:31,640 Speaker 1: cannot plan for, that's something you cannot anticipate. You don't 199 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 1: know the jurors' names or who they are before that moment. 200 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:37,760 Speaker 1: I would know who all my witnesses were going to be. 201 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:41,559 Speaker 1: I would know down to the question what they were 202 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 1: going to say. 203 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:44,840 Speaker 3: I need the evidence. I was bringing it in. It 204 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:46,480 Speaker 3: was all marked, ready to go. 205 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:52,080 Speaker 1: I was waiting, waiting to commence trial, completely prepared. 206 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:56,760 Speaker 3: The one thing you cannot prepare for is the jury. 207 00:10:56,800 --> 00:10:58,680 Speaker 1: Who those jurrrs are, and they're going to need at 208 00:10:58,760 --> 00:11:01,760 Speaker 1: least two hundred jars just to start to whittle it 209 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 1: down to twelve. You don't know where they're from, what 210 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:08,560 Speaker 1: their experiences are, who they are, You've never seen them before. 211 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:11,960 Speaker 1: It's like shaking up a pot and picking out a number. 212 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:15,480 Speaker 1: That's what the jury selection process is. You have no 213 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:18,760 Speaker 1: way to prepare for that. What about it, Faddus, Yeah, I. 214 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 7: Mean, look, you can only make one first impression, right, 215 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:24,160 Speaker 7: and so the jury's coming in that they're serving the courtroom, 216 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:26,400 Speaker 7: they're looking at the prosecutors, the judge, but at some 217 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 7: point they're going to be laser focused on Diddy. What 218 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:31,439 Speaker 7: is he wearing, What is his demeanor like, how is 219 00:11:31,480 --> 00:11:34,120 Speaker 7: he presenting? What are his facial expressions, What are his 220 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:37,680 Speaker 7: reactions to what the prosecutors saying, what the defense is saying, 221 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:40,520 Speaker 7: what the judges, saying, all of those things are going 222 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:44,440 Speaker 7: to be closely surveilled by these potential jurors as they're 223 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:47,679 Speaker 7: getting acquainted with the court group process and the participants 224 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:48,079 Speaker 7: there in. 225 00:11:54,400 --> 00:12:02,120 Speaker 1: Crime stories with Nancy Grace, we are getting reports from 226 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:05,080 Speaker 1: the courtroom. Lauren Conlin, Lauren joining us at the courthouse. 227 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:07,640 Speaker 1: Seawn Kime's dressed in the navy pullover? 228 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:09,400 Speaker 3: What what? 229 00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:13,600 Speaker 1: What is he going for? The Harvard freshman look? A 230 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:14,720 Speaker 1: Navy pullover? 231 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:15,640 Speaker 3: My rear end. 232 00:12:15,679 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 1: I've never seen him in a pullover in my life. 233 00:12:19,520 --> 00:12:20,640 Speaker 3: I mean, I saw the. 234 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:23,560 Speaker 1: Menendez brothers trying to pull that off in court. Didn't work. 235 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:29,160 Speaker 1: But Sean comes mister style and a pullover. 236 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 4: What well, Nancy, as you know, what you wear as 237 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 4: a defendant in court is really important. You said it 238 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:39,840 Speaker 4: yourself the Menendez brothers. I mean, he wants to create 239 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:43,960 Speaker 4: this image in the courthouse for the jurors that he's 240 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:47,439 Speaker 4: this innocent guy. His only crime, Nancy, as he said, 241 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:49,920 Speaker 4: is being a swinger, and that's what he wants to 242 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:53,320 Speaker 4: get across. He is not this sexual devian, he is 243 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:57,880 Speaker 4: not this criminal mastermind. He's just a guy that engages 244 00:12:58,000 --> 00:12:59,560 Speaker 4: in a casual sex. 245 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:02,920 Speaker 11: Did he dressed like a college freshman. As crowds lining 246 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:05,960 Speaker 11: the block to get into the courtroom, US Marshalls and 247 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:09,080 Speaker 11: NYPD set up barricades to control flow of people. 248 00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:11,920 Speaker 1: The shots you're seeing right now are of Sean Combs 249 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:18,240 Speaker 1: aka Ditty aka Puff aka Puff Daddy aka Love It 250 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 1: goes On and on. Are of him at the mat Gala. 251 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:26,480 Speaker 1: There he is getting his star on the Walk of Fame. 252 00:13:26,559 --> 00:13:26,800 Speaker 3: There. 253 00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:29,320 Speaker 1: Now we're back at the met Gala, and there he 254 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:33,680 Speaker 1: is with Cassie Ventia. I call her victim number one. 255 00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:38,600 Speaker 1: And that is all going down across town. As Diddy 256 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:43,920 Speaker 1: is facing looking all his potential jurors eye to eye, 257 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 1: wonder what they're thinking. Guarantee this he is not blinged 258 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:51,080 Speaker 1: out in the courtroom. He's trying to look like a 259 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:55,439 Speaker 1: Harvard freshman. Let's see if that works. But what are 260 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:57,240 Speaker 1: the jurors thinking? 261 00:13:57,880 --> 00:14:00,920 Speaker 11: Take a listen, Sean Ditty Combs defense lawyers insist he 262 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:04,839 Speaker 11: isn't a rapist but a swinger. Attorney Mark Agnifilo tells 263 00:14:04,880 --> 00:14:08,439 Speaker 11: the court Comb simply engaged in a swinger lifestyle, seeing 264 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:12,560 Speaker 11: nothing wrong with his behavior because it's common. Agnifilo asserts 265 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:15,840 Speaker 11: it's so common that many people find the lifestyle appropriate. 266 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:20,240 Speaker 11: In a March filing, lawyer Alexandra Shapiro wrote, prosecutors always 267 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 11: seem to conclude that the sex lives of black men 268 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:25,000 Speaker 11: are bad enough to deserve punishment. 269 00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:31,600 Speaker 1: What, okay, don't hate me because I'm a swinger. A swinger, 270 00:14:32,840 --> 00:14:35,840 Speaker 1: that's not at all what this case is about. 271 00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:36,440 Speaker 3: Number one. 272 00:14:37,280 --> 00:14:40,800 Speaker 1: Most of the jurors are not gonna like the idea 273 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:45,440 Speaker 1: of swinging number one, which is multiple sex partners by agreement. 274 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:48,760 Speaker 1: But that said, let's just take a look at what 275 00:14:48,960 --> 00:14:52,080 Speaker 1: I think will probably be states Exhibit number two. 276 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:54,520 Speaker 3: After the free cough video. This is from our friends 277 00:14:54,520 --> 00:14:56,960 Speaker 3: at CNN. Let's just watch it in full. What now? 278 00:14:57,000 --> 00:14:58,760 Speaker 3: This is part of being in a. 279 00:14:58,800 --> 00:15:06,200 Speaker 1: Consensual qu swinging relationship. Consentual out Okay, you think Cassie Ventira, Oh, 280 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:10,880 Speaker 1: consented to that man? It's like he's working. Uh, he's 281 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:15,600 Speaker 1: out for the Boca Junior Soccer Club. That was one 282 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:19,400 Speaker 1: kick and it was right to her vital organs. Now, 283 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:23,640 Speaker 1: according to reports, this is Cassie Ventior, his so called 284 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:29,000 Speaker 1: consensual sex partner, trying to flee a multi day free 285 00:15:29,040 --> 00:15:33,720 Speaker 1: cough where the women are drugged, completely slathered in baby 286 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:38,680 Speaker 1: oil and then raped on video. No wonder she was running. Okay, 287 00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:43,000 Speaker 1: there's petulant Diddy. Yeah he's not happy. Ow okay, there 288 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:45,800 Speaker 1: goes about a two thousand dollars vase right there in 289 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:50,080 Speaker 1: the Intercontinental. Now, one of the trial ploys is that 290 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:57,160 Speaker 1: CNN doctored the tape. Really, that's the best you've got, 291 00:15:57,160 --> 00:16:01,040 Speaker 1: Brian Steele and Agnafello. That CNN one of the most 292 00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:02,960 Speaker 1: trusted names in the news business. 293 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:08,800 Speaker 3: That sounds like an ad Oh it is doctored the tape. 294 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:12,520 Speaker 1: Well, according to sources, prosecutors have gotten the full and 295 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:15,960 Speaker 1: unedited tape to play to the jury. 296 00:16:16,280 --> 00:16:18,800 Speaker 3: So be careful. What you wish Seawan comes for, you 297 00:16:18,840 --> 00:16:19,800 Speaker 3: will surely get it. 298 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:22,720 Speaker 1: You don't want the edited tape where CNN do it 299 00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:25,880 Speaker 1: want to play thirty minutes of you chasing Cassie up 300 00:16:25,880 --> 00:16:29,800 Speaker 1: and down the hall. The jury can watch the entire 301 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:31,560 Speaker 1: unedited tape. 302 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:32,920 Speaker 3: I wonder what's going to be on that. 303 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:36,800 Speaker 1: And to suggest that CNN or anybody else doctor the evidence, 304 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 1: you are really at the bottom of the barrel. I 305 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:41,880 Speaker 1: would not say that in front of the jury, but hey, 306 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:46,560 Speaker 1: you know what, go ahead, let's talk about swinging to 307 00:16:46,920 --> 00:16:50,640 Speaker 1: doctor Bethany Marshall joining us psychoanalyst out of la at 308 00:16:50,680 --> 00:16:54,680 Speaker 1: doctor Bethany Marshall dot com. Doctor Bethany explain that whole 309 00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:58,240 Speaker 1: thing as you know, you know how I feel, open marriage, 310 00:16:58,600 --> 00:16:59,480 Speaker 1: open casket. 311 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:01,000 Speaker 3: But that's just me. 312 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:04,040 Speaker 1: I have had that mate into a T shirt which 313 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:08,280 Speaker 1: are wear on my anniversary. But swinging, doctor Bethany, how's 314 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:09,520 Speaker 1: injury going to react to that? 315 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:10,159 Speaker 3: Well? 316 00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:12,960 Speaker 10: I think juries are pretty mature and they can understand 317 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:13,840 Speaker 10: what swinging is. 318 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:14,720 Speaker 12: Swinging is when. 319 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:17,119 Speaker 10: A couple opens up the relationship to a third party. 320 00:17:17,160 --> 00:17:20,560 Speaker 10: And you know, swingers play by very specific rules. They're 321 00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:23,439 Speaker 10: not cheating on each other, they're not going out behind 322 00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:27,080 Speaker 10: each other's backs. Typically one couple hooks up with an 323 00:17:27,119 --> 00:17:30,600 Speaker 10: individual or they hook up with another couple. So it's 324 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:34,760 Speaker 10: very it's very sedate in some ways, it's very consensual. 325 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:39,000 Speaker 10: And I do say multi partner family configurations in my 326 00:17:39,119 --> 00:17:41,160 Speaker 10: office where they may be maybe four or five. 327 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:42,240 Speaker 3: People is a part of a couple. 328 00:17:42,680 --> 00:17:44,920 Speaker 10: They are so kind, they are so polite. 329 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:48,040 Speaker 1: Could you repeat that what you have cludis in your 330 00:17:48,040 --> 00:17:49,840 Speaker 1: office and they not heard the words four or five? 331 00:17:49,880 --> 00:17:54,920 Speaker 10: What four or five members of the romantic configuration where 332 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:56,159 Speaker 10: they all respect each. 333 00:17:56,040 --> 00:17:58,400 Speaker 3: Other shaving configuration. 334 00:17:58,640 --> 00:18:02,240 Speaker 1: How's injury going to respons that's true, four or five 335 00:18:02,400 --> 00:18:06,200 Speaker 1: members of a sex configuration, that's right? 336 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:09,040 Speaker 3: Is that what you just said? That is exactly what 337 00:18:09,080 --> 00:18:12,560 Speaker 3: I said. And what's interesting. I don't care. 338 00:18:12,880 --> 00:18:17,240 Speaker 1: But when women wake up having been drugged and their 339 00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:22,359 Speaker 1: vaginas and their anises hurt, I mean, Robert Crispin joining me, 340 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:24,639 Speaker 1: it's just address what doctor Bethany just said. I'm not 341 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:27,880 Speaker 1: saying she's wrong, and I don't care. I don't care 342 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:31,760 Speaker 1: what anybody else does. Cats and dogs sleeping together, I 343 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:38,200 Speaker 1: don't care. But when women wake up after being looted, 344 00:18:38,359 --> 00:18:44,800 Speaker 1: quay looted, ruthied, and their private parts are hurting and bleeding, 345 00:18:45,560 --> 00:18:50,080 Speaker 1: and then later on Crispin, they find out that there's 346 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:54,600 Speaker 1: a video of them where their limbs have been arranged 347 00:18:54,640 --> 00:18:57,840 Speaker 1: to get a better angle as they are raped, that 348 00:18:58,200 --> 00:19:02,240 Speaker 1: is what the state is talking about. They're not talking 349 00:19:02,320 --> 00:19:04,880 Speaker 1: about whatever that was that doctor Bethany just said. 350 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:07,960 Speaker 6: Yeah, I think you're going Nancy with that angle, because 351 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:10,439 Speaker 6: if they can get it out to the jury that 352 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:13,119 Speaker 6: a lot of these people are swingers, then that's going 353 00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:16,040 Speaker 6: to kind of dull down the freak offs, because the 354 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:18,520 Speaker 6: freakoffs of a bunch of people having sex at the 355 00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:20,880 Speaker 6: same time. And if you can buy one or two 356 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:24,320 Speaker 6: jurors and tell them that this was nothing more than 357 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:27,440 Speaker 6: just swinging, then they may go, all right, so it's freakoffs. 358 00:19:27,520 --> 00:19:28,679 Speaker 6: Is a bunch of people who like to be with 359 00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:30,520 Speaker 6: other sex partners? Yeah, okay, I don't have a problem 360 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:33,119 Speaker 6: because I do it. No, not mean, but they might 361 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:33,880 Speaker 6: go I do it? 362 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:36,639 Speaker 1: Okay, put him on. Wait wait, so wait a minute, 363 00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:40,800 Speaker 1: Wait a minute, wait, wait, wait, hold on, Slow down, Nelly. 364 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:44,560 Speaker 1: You're saying the jury is going to react to this. 365 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:50,160 Speaker 1: How I mean, think about the odds. Okay, the Vegas odds. 366 00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:52,879 Speaker 1: You were in vice, you can relate to that before 367 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:55,840 Speaker 1: you were in homicide and DOJ and your illustrious career 368 00:19:56,320 --> 00:19:59,879 Speaker 1: the odds. How many swingers do you think you're going 369 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:01,880 Speaker 1: to get on this jury? You might get a couple 370 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:04,359 Speaker 1: of people that have cheated and don't want anybody to 371 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:06,719 Speaker 1: find out. That chance that they're going to answer that 372 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:11,000 Speaker 1: and a ger our questionnaire. Hgaln that is not going 373 00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:12,760 Speaker 1: to be put in the record. Oh yeah, I cheated 374 00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:15,159 Speaker 1: my wife all the time, so I don't care what 375 00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:17,920 Speaker 1: did he does. That's not going to happen So Crispin, 376 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:21,119 Speaker 1: let's just look at the odds. How many people do 377 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:23,399 Speaker 1: you think are going to be on a jury of 378 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:28,840 Speaker 1: twelve with let's say four maybe six alternates that are swingers. 379 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:32,280 Speaker 1: As doctor Bethany acts like, yeah, that happens all the time, 380 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:35,840 Speaker 1: guess what, Bethany. Maybe in la it happens all the time, 381 00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:39,360 Speaker 1: but I don't think across the country it happens all 382 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:39,919 Speaker 1: the time. 383 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:43,959 Speaker 6: There are a larger group of people in all our 384 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:47,280 Speaker 6: neighborhoods that are swingers, and I think that they had no. 385 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:48,840 Speaker 3: Where do you live? 386 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:52,320 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not living in a monastery, and I 387 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:54,439 Speaker 1: don't really know what my neighbors are doing unless my 388 00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:55,680 Speaker 1: cat gets in their yard. 389 00:20:55,960 --> 00:20:58,359 Speaker 3: But how would you you know? 390 00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:02,359 Speaker 6: You know what, We've worked in our time, and there's 391 00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:05,280 Speaker 6: just those type of crowd that's out there. And this 392 00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:07,800 Speaker 6: is unless you can think of another way. I can't. 393 00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:11,159 Speaker 6: This is one way to dispel the free colls and 394 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:14,560 Speaker 6: to explain the free colls and take the bite away 395 00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:19,760 Speaker 6: from the jury that these were drug fueled rapes. If 396 00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:22,480 Speaker 6: you can get someone on a jury, listen only takes one. 397 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:26,400 Speaker 3: Maybe if I get two, how do you live with yourself? 398 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:31,160 Speaker 3: Spewing that these were raped. You know what, I don't 399 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:33,159 Speaker 3: under say it. Lynn Shaw is going to say it 400 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:33,520 Speaker 3: for me. 401 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:36,720 Speaker 1: Lynnshaw, can you address Crispin, because if you start listening 402 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:40,840 Speaker 1: to Crispin and Fattest, you start thinking, oh, hey, maybe 403 00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:43,120 Speaker 1: it is more normal than I think. Hey, I don't 404 00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:45,760 Speaker 1: care if it's normal, but don't care what other people do. 405 00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:49,000 Speaker 1: What I care about is a violation of the law. 406 00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:52,119 Speaker 1: What I care about is a violent felony. And I 407 00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:56,560 Speaker 1: find it very hard to believe that kicking Cassi Ventira 408 00:21:56,840 --> 00:22:00,159 Speaker 1: in the stomach look like her kidney, hitting her in 409 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:03,440 Speaker 1: the head, and literally dragging her like a caveman down 410 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:04,280 Speaker 1: the hall back to. 411 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:04,880 Speaker 3: A freak cough. 412 00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:09,600 Speaker 1: If it was so consensual, why was she being literally 413 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:10,920 Speaker 1: dragged back to it? 414 00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:11,640 Speaker 3: Crispin. 415 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:15,560 Speaker 8: I'm ashamed of you saying this because I've worked in entertainment. 416 00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:17,679 Speaker 8: I'm in the middle of New York City. I was 417 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:21,240 Speaker 8: just part of being picked for a jury, and I 418 00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:23,119 Speaker 8: have to tell you here in New York I found 419 00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:27,480 Speaker 8: the other people rather conservative. Working in entertainment and being 420 00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:30,640 Speaker 8: around the music business. This really is not normal behavior. 421 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:33,000 Speaker 8: If he wants to call himself this dirty diddy, bad 422 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:36,200 Speaker 8: boy pullover sweater you know, a choir boy. He would 423 00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:38,520 Speaker 8: have come out in the beginning saying I'm a swinger. 424 00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:41,240 Speaker 8: All you have to do is look at the Cassie 425 00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:44,080 Speaker 8: Ventura tape. That's what the public will see, That's what 426 00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:46,840 Speaker 8: the jury will see, and they will hold him accountable. 427 00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:49,399 Speaker 8: There's been too much out in the press, out in 428 00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:51,280 Speaker 8: the world about this guy. They're going to look at 429 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:54,920 Speaker 8: him and say he's rich, he's entitled. Cassie Ventura, That's 430 00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:56,359 Speaker 8: what they're going to look at. They don't care about 431 00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:59,760 Speaker 8: a pullover sweater. They don't care about swinging. It's done 432 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:02,280 Speaker 8: going down. Everybody swinging. 433 00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:11,320 Speaker 1: What did doctor Bethany say, consensual sex configurations of multiple partners? Okay, 434 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:17,320 Speaker 1: then if everything is so consensual, why did Diddy do this? 435 00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:22,600 Speaker 13: It's so difficult to reflect on the darkest times in 436 00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:23,320 Speaker 13: your life. 437 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:25,320 Speaker 3: Sometimes you gotta do that. 438 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:28,480 Speaker 11: I was fuck up. 439 00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:34,199 Speaker 13: I mean, I hit rock bottom, But I make no excuses. 440 00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:37,640 Speaker 3: My behavior on that video is inexcusable. 441 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:42,399 Speaker 13: I take full responsibility for my actions in that video. 442 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:44,280 Speaker 3: Disgusted. 443 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:48,439 Speaker 13: I was disgusted then when I did it. 444 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:54,600 Speaker 3: I'm disgusting now. I went and I sought out professional help. 445 00:23:56,640 --> 00:24:02,440 Speaker 13: Now to go into therapy I'm going to rehab. Had 446 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:14,040 Speaker 13: to ask God for his mercy and grace. I'm so sorry, 447 00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:17,720 Speaker 13: but I'm committed to be a better man usin every day. 448 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:25,160 Speaker 13: I'm not asking for forgiveness. I'm truly sorry. 449 00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:30,760 Speaker 1: That was from Diddy's official Instagram page. 450 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:32,639 Speaker 3: Can we just address what he just said? 451 00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:34,919 Speaker 1: And I hope that that has been marked as the 452 00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:39,480 Speaker 1: states exhibit the apology because number one panel, listen up, 453 00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:41,280 Speaker 1: I can't wait to hear your response on this. 454 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:45,439 Speaker 3: He says that was his quote darkest time. No it's not. 455 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:48,480 Speaker 1: It is so by far not your darkest time, the 456 00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:50,840 Speaker 1: time that you beat just one woman. 457 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:52,040 Speaker 3: Cassie Ventura. 458 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:55,119 Speaker 1: Oh no, no, no, You've got a fleet of women 459 00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:58,960 Speaker 1: claiming you did that, and a lot worse. He says, 460 00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:03,600 Speaker 1: I'm discussed, not half as disgusted as I am, or 461 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:05,439 Speaker 1: not half as disgusted as how this. 462 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:06,439 Speaker 3: Jury's gonna feel. 463 00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:10,760 Speaker 1: And he's saying, I take full responsibility for what I did, 464 00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:14,480 Speaker 1: Really full responsibility. Then why aren't you pleading guilty? 465 00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:17,280 Speaker 3: And you know it goes on and on. 466 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:21,679 Speaker 1: He says he is going to go to rehab. Rehab. 467 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:24,840 Speaker 1: I never heard that Diddy went to rehab. Is one 468 00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:28,000 Speaker 1: person sitting on this panel that has ever heard that 469 00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:30,400 Speaker 1: Sean Combs went to rehab. 470 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:34,880 Speaker 3: I can't wait to hear this. He goes on and on. 471 00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:38,560 Speaker 1: Jury selections starting right now. He says he wants mercy 472 00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:41,399 Speaker 1: and grace. You know what, you can get mercy and 473 00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:46,119 Speaker 1: grace behind bars. You don't have to be walking free 474 00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:49,480 Speaker 1: to get mercy and grace. Straight out to Lauren Collin 475 00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:52,479 Speaker 1: joining us at the courthouse, Lauren, tell me about the 476 00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:55,960 Speaker 1: scene this morning when everyone was trying to get into 477 00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:56,679 Speaker 1: the courthouse. 478 00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:58,760 Speaker 5: Yes, Nancy, it was crazy. 479 00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:03,359 Speaker 4: There were lines around the courthouse, incredibly crowded, lots of 480 00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:07,439 Speaker 4: police presence with barricades trying to control the flow of 481 00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:10,320 Speaker 4: people and the flow of press trying to get in 482 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:13,440 Speaker 4: to report or observe on the jury selection. 483 00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:17,280 Speaker 1: I say, one beefy looking guy that's walking around behind you. 484 00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:20,400 Speaker 1: He's dressed in all gray. He looks like he's packing. 485 00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:23,199 Speaker 1: From what I can tell from here, he looks like 486 00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:26,920 Speaker 1: a fed He just walked out of range of your camera. 487 00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:29,840 Speaker 3: So I guess the courthouse is flanked with law enforcement. 488 00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:33,359 Speaker 4: Yes, it's flanked with law enforcement, as it should be. 489 00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:36,199 Speaker 4: Like I said, when I was here earlier, there was 490 00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:39,040 Speaker 4: people going crazy walking out of the courthouse, I thought 491 00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:41,280 Speaker 4: they had weapons. I thought they were going to do 492 00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:44,600 Speaker 4: something violent, so'm I was very thankful that there was 493 00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:46,000 Speaker 4: lots of police presence here. 494 00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:50,560 Speaker 1: Now we understand that there is a new defense on 495 00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:53,680 Speaker 1: the horizon. But before we get to that, to doctor 496 00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:55,840 Speaker 1: Bethany Marshall, you heard that apology video. 497 00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:57,280 Speaker 3: How's that going to play? 498 00:26:57,440 --> 00:26:59,840 Speaker 1: Certainly they're going to bring it in because if everything 499 00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:01,800 Speaker 1: that happened with Cassie Ventiro, who is one of the 500 00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:06,280 Speaker 1: state's strongest witnesses and one of the few victims that 501 00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:10,960 Speaker 1: wants her name in open court. The other victims are 502 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:15,680 Speaker 1: going by victim two, victim three, she's going by her name. 503 00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:20,040 Speaker 1: The fact that he says it's all consensual, Then what 504 00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:22,720 Speaker 1: about that apology video? Did you get all that I'm 505 00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:25,920 Speaker 1: disgusted with myself? Not have as disgusted as I am. 506 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:29,359 Speaker 1: This is my darkest moment. No, no it's not. I 507 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:32,600 Speaker 1: take full responsibility. Then why not plea I'm going to 508 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:36,119 Speaker 1: go to rehab. No, no, it's too late for a rehab. 509 00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:39,240 Speaker 1: Plus he never went what about what he was saying 510 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:40,879 Speaker 1: that apology video. 511 00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:43,080 Speaker 10: I love when he says I'm going to go to 512 00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:46,360 Speaker 10: therapy like he couldn't even pronounce the word. I'm like, yikes, 513 00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:49,280 Speaker 10: I hope he's not a patient coming into my office anyway. 514 00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:52,120 Speaker 10: What all of your listeners are going to recognize here 515 00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:55,160 Speaker 10: is the honeymoon phase of the cycle of abuse. Right 516 00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:58,879 Speaker 10: the man batters the woman, the woman tries to get away, 517 00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:02,840 Speaker 10: then he becomes remorseful, says he's going to do better, 518 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:05,400 Speaker 10: that he's going to go to rehab, and then as 519 00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:08,920 Speaker 10: as soon as the woman comes back again, then the 520 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:13,879 Speaker 10: perpetrator gains acendency and power over the woman again. It 521 00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:16,879 Speaker 10: is a cycle that repeats endlessly. And as I was 522 00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:19,360 Speaker 10: looking at his face right now, I thought of all 523 00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:21,679 Speaker 10: the women, women who are viewers who might be on 524 00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:25,400 Speaker 10: the jury, maybe jurors who have daughters or sons who 525 00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:28,280 Speaker 10: have been battered, and they have seen that face, they 526 00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:31,680 Speaker 10: have seen that person say, and all the abusers say 527 00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:35,320 Speaker 10: in all sincerity, I'm sorry, I'm going to get help. 528 00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:37,760 Speaker 10: I did not mean to do it, and they look 529 00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:40,360 Speaker 10: at the person and think, I know you're lying, because 530 00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:43,080 Speaker 10: you're just going to do it all over again. Jurors 531 00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:45,720 Speaker 10: aren't stupid, They're going to see right through this. 532 00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:49,400 Speaker 1: Joining us Eric Fattus high profile lawyer out of LA 533 00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:53,640 Speaker 1: but practices in multiple jurisdictions. Okay, Faddest, I guess you 534 00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:56,360 Speaker 1: want in on the apology video, Nancy. 535 00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:59,640 Speaker 7: There's something buried in there that the ultimato rings pretty 536 00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:02,160 Speaker 7: hall for most. But buried in there when he's talking 537 00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:05,040 Speaker 7: about hitting rock bottom, seeking professional help, going to rehab, 538 00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:07,360 Speaker 7: what he could be doing is setting himself up for 539 00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:11,880 Speaker 7: what's called a diminish mental capacity defense, essentially arguing that, hey, 540 00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:14,400 Speaker 7: I was so whacked out of my mind on whatever 541 00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:17,200 Speaker 7: that I wasn't able to form the mental state to 542 00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:19,360 Speaker 7: commit this crime, and therefore, ju or you got to 543 00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:20,000 Speaker 7: give me a break. 544 00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:24,280 Speaker 1: At any point in that apology video, did you hear 545 00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:28,240 Speaker 1: him say one word about his mental state? You're just 546 00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:29,120 Speaker 1: making that up. 547 00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:31,520 Speaker 7: What I'm saying is that if he's talking about being 548 00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:36,680 Speaker 7: overly intoxicated on substances that can't be used in trial. 549 00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:41,480 Speaker 1: Rehab, did he Jackie, did he say overly intoxicated in 550 00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:45,080 Speaker 1: that video? Did he say one thing about drugs or alcohol? 551 00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:48,560 Speaker 1: Did Sidney Sumner joining me Crimeonline dot Com and Crime 552 00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:52,680 Speaker 1: Stories investigative reporter Sydney, We have watched that apology video, 553 00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:56,440 Speaker 1: you and I fifty times. I don't hear anything about 554 00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:57,080 Speaker 1: I was. 555 00:29:57,120 --> 00:30:00,600 Speaker 3: Drunk or I was high. I didn't hear anything like that, No, ma'am, 556 00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:01,680 Speaker 3: not at all. 557 00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:07,120 Speaker 14: Combs does not mention having some kind of diminished mental 558 00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:11,080 Speaker 14: capacity that caused him to attack his then girlfriend. 559 00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:13,520 Speaker 3: His defense has come out and said. 560 00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:17,480 Speaker 15: You know, this is a year long relationship that had 561 00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:22,120 Speaker 15: plenty of issues, and this was simply an argument that 562 00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:24,000 Speaker 15: got a little bit out of control. 563 00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:25,120 Speaker 5: A little bit. 564 00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:27,840 Speaker 14: That doesn't feel like a little bit to me. Throwing 565 00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:32,000 Speaker 14: a base somebody that you love or claimed to love 566 00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:34,840 Speaker 14: does not feel like a little bit of an argument 567 00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:35,920 Speaker 14: that got out of hand. 568 00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:38,160 Speaker 3: So no, he doesn't mention. 569 00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:39,600 Speaker 5: That he was drunk or high. 570 00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:43,080 Speaker 3: Well got me, Sidney is the kidney punch? The kidney kick? 571 00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:45,280 Speaker 3: Did you see him kick or write the kidney? 572 00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:49,200 Speaker 14: It's ridiculous, Nancy. No amount of violence should ever be 573 00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:51,520 Speaker 14: tolerated in a relationship. 574 00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:52,320 Speaker 3: Much less one like this. 575 00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:54,440 Speaker 14: You are a celebrity, you should be held to a 576 00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:57,880 Speaker 14: higher standard. And it seems like Combs only used his 577 00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:00,000 Speaker 14: wealth and power to cover up bad behavior. 578 00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:05,440 Speaker 1: I'm going to address Eric Fattis's diminished capacity argument in 579 00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:08,560 Speaker 1: just a moment, but needless to say, Sean Combs runs 580 00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:13,880 Speaker 1: a billion dollar empire that he has built from scratch, 581 00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:20,680 Speaker 1: according to prosecutors, by violence, threats, beatings, and it goes 582 00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:25,800 Speaker 1: on and on. That's how he amassed a billion dollar fortune, 583 00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:31,440 Speaker 1: according to prosecutors. But what he's saying in that apology video, 584 00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:35,520 Speaker 1: Lynn Shaw joining us from Lyn's Warriors, what do. 585 00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:36,080 Speaker 3: You make of it? 586 00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:42,640 Speaker 1: I pray that he brings up that the Cassie incident. 587 00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:44,720 Speaker 3: That's certainly putting perfume on. 588 00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:48,680 Speaker 1: The pig, the beating, the aggravated assault with hands and 589 00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:53,000 Speaker 1: feet as the deadly weapon. I want them to say 590 00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:56,680 Speaker 1: that's consensual, so then the state can bring on that 591 00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:57,880 Speaker 1: apology video. 592 00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:01,040 Speaker 3: If he didn't do it, why is the apology land. 593 00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:04,720 Speaker 8: First of all, that wasn't an apology. That was save me, 594 00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:09,520 Speaker 8: Save me, invoking God and I'm at my lowest point. 595 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:12,440 Speaker 8: First of all, we have to remember physical violence is 596 00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:15,800 Speaker 8: never accepted in any kind of relationship. Second of all, 597 00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:18,720 Speaker 8: I never heard him say at all, and that apology 598 00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:21,960 Speaker 8: as I put air quotes around that I am sorry, Cassie, 599 00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:25,040 Speaker 8: I'll do better. He never addressed her by name. I 600 00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:26,960 Speaker 8: don't even understand. That's a piece of garbage. 601 00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:28,080 Speaker 3: Throw it out. 602 00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:32,280 Speaker 8: I maintain victim after victim had stories of abuse like. 603 00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:34,200 Speaker 3: This, You know what, He's just going down. 604 00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:36,280 Speaker 5: That's all I can say. It's done. 605 00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:42,680 Speaker 8: Dirty Diddy is done. 606 00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:47,240 Speaker 3: Crime stories with Nancy Grace. 607 00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:54,120 Speaker 11: Investigators taking a second look into the nineteen ninety nine 608 00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:57,520 Speaker 11: Club New York shooting based on allegations Combs bragged about 609 00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:01,200 Speaker 11: bribing witnesses and jurorsy trial, sharing that he pulled the triggers, 610 00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:04,680 Speaker 11: not Jamal Shine Barrow. Barrow served nine years in prison 611 00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:07,320 Speaker 11: for opening fire and injuring three while I was celebrating 612 00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:10,520 Speaker 11: a new record deal with Combs and his girlfriend Jennifer Lopez. 613 00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:13,840 Speaker 11: The lawsuit a ledges. Combs shared that Lopez carried the 614 00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:16,840 Speaker 11: gun and passed it to him during the altercation. Victim 615 00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:20,200 Speaker 11: Natanya Rubin, has also long insisted that Comb shot her, 616 00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:23,360 Speaker 11: not Barrow. Lopez was never charged in the shooting, and 617 00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:26,240 Speaker 11: Combs was acquitted of four counts criminal possession of a 618 00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:27,520 Speaker 11: weapon and bribery. 619 00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:30,000 Speaker 12: The same way you're sure that I have on a 620 00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:32,000 Speaker 12: green shirt, I'm certain that he shot me. 621 00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:33,360 Speaker 5: Now, was he aiming at me? 622 00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:37,040 Speaker 12: Was I the object of his fire? Absolutely not. I 623 00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:39,200 Speaker 12: should not have been, because I didn't do anything to him. 624 00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:42,640 Speaker 12: I watched them both fire their guns. I watched them 625 00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:47,360 Speaker 12: I got hit right here in my nose, in between 626 00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:49,480 Speaker 12: my eyes, which means I'm facing directly at you. 627 00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:53,960 Speaker 1: That victim spaking, and that is from the art of dialogue. Now, 628 00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:57,640 Speaker 1: rumors swirling that Jennifer Lopez will be called into court 629 00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:03,560 Speaker 1: on that case. HU showing a propensity for violence and 630 00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:07,400 Speaker 1: escaping justice. We're waiting to find out if that's going 631 00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:11,200 Speaker 1: to happen. But Fattus actually, although he completely fabricated it 632 00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:15,360 Speaker 1: from whole cloth, brought up a defense that we believe 633 00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:18,239 Speaker 1: will be used at trial, although it did not rear 634 00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:21,120 Speaker 1: its ugly head in the apology video listen. 635 00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:23,600 Speaker 2: Diddy's defense may now be arguing he did not have 636 00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:25,960 Speaker 2: the mental capacity to commit the alleged crimes. 637 00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:28,799 Speaker 3: The lawyer's plan to put psychiatrist doctor. 638 00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:31,040 Speaker 2: Ely Awen on the stand to explain that, due to 639 00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:33,880 Speaker 2: drug and alcohol use, Sean Combs did not have the 640 00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:37,880 Speaker 2: capacity to form the men's rea required to commit the 641 00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:41,759 Speaker 2: alleged offenses, in other words, a guilty mind. Prosecutors are 642 00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:44,640 Speaker 2: fighting to block the testimony, claiming the rap mogul needed 643 00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:47,440 Speaker 2: to file prior notice of his intent to argue a 644 00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:50,720 Speaker 2: mental disease or defect bearing on the issue of guilt. 645 00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:53,200 Speaker 1: Eric Fattus, this is going to be difficult. It is 646 00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:56,960 Speaker 1: for all lawyers, But I'd like a yes no answer. 647 00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:02,040 Speaker 1: Isn't it true that voluntary use of drugs or alcohol 648 00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:04,480 Speaker 1: is never a defense? 649 00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:08,960 Speaker 7: No, Nancy, I don't believe that's accurate. So voluntary intoxication 650 00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:12,320 Speaker 7: can potentially be a defense for he called specific intent 651 00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:16,600 Speaker 7: crimes crime Church three, in this case, transporting someone across 652 00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:19,719 Speaker 7: state lines with the intent, the specific intent that they 653 00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:23,319 Speaker 7: engage in prostitution. That is specific intent crime for which 654 00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:27,319 Speaker 7: voluntary intoxication could be applicable. The defense is going to 655 00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:30,000 Speaker 7: argue that he did not have a lucid awareness of 656 00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:31,680 Speaker 7: exactly what was going on and what he was. 657 00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:36,400 Speaker 3: Doing fifty miles a minute. 658 00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:39,160 Speaker 1: Hold on, let's just break down what you just said 659 00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:44,759 Speaker 1: for real. Okay, you said that when Shawn comes was 660 00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:48,839 Speaker 1: making phone calls and texting all his contacts, you mean 661 00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:53,480 Speaker 1: the sex workers in other states that he was flying in, 662 00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:56,560 Speaker 1: he was too drawn or high to know what he 663 00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:57,160 Speaker 1: was doing. 664 00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:00,280 Speaker 3: Is That's what that means what you just said. 665 00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:03,840 Speaker 1: So what you're saying, you're going to argue that in 666 00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:07,640 Speaker 1: front of a jury diminished capacity when he's calling all 667 00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:11,480 Speaker 1: his friends, well employees, going, hey, could you get me 668 00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:15,120 Speaker 1: those prostitutes from New York that I really like and 669 00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:18,400 Speaker 1: fly them into la or fly them into Florida. You 670 00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:22,680 Speaker 1: think that that could be done while you're a higher drunk. 671 00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:27,040 Speaker 7: The law requires a loosent awareness and understanding of what 672 00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:30,560 Speaker 7: you're doing, the facts and circumstances surrounded your actions, and 673 00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:34,040 Speaker 7: defense can certainly argue to this jury that what he was. 674 00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:38,600 Speaker 1: Doing when he was dialing his phone, Okay, hold on, argument, 675 00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:44,480 Speaker 1: what about the rapes and the Shawncombe sitting back like 676 00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:49,200 Speaker 1: an Oscar winning director going could you move her left 677 00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:52,759 Speaker 1: leg over and put her right arm above her head 678 00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:55,320 Speaker 1: so we can get a better angle of the rape? 679 00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:58,080 Speaker 1: Are you suggesting that he was high or drunk and 680 00:36:58,120 --> 00:36:59,600 Speaker 1: didn't know what he was saying? 681 00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:02,520 Speaker 7: I think the prosecution can present a donal evidence that 682 00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:05,319 Speaker 7: he did know what was going on. But as to 683 00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:08,200 Speaker 7: the question of whether he can present this kind of 684 00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:10,279 Speaker 7: an argument to the jury, I think on some of 685 00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:12,120 Speaker 7: these charges, on some of these allegations, k. 686 00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:16,960 Speaker 1: I hear something, it's a bell tolling? Okay, what about that? 687 00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:21,360 Speaker 1: What about of course fatus is totally ignoring a huge 688 00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:25,960 Speaker 1: and vast body of law that says voluntary use of 689 00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:30,680 Speaker 1: drugs or alcohol is not a defense. Okay, that said Lynnshaw, 690 00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:33,160 Speaker 1: jump in Land jump in. 691 00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:35,160 Speaker 8: I'm jumping out of my seat here trying to maintain 692 00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:37,359 Speaker 8: my control. I mean, I'm not a lawyer. I don't 693 00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:40,480 Speaker 8: play one on TV. We need the video evidence. What 694 00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:42,960 Speaker 8: are you talking about? This was a complicit operation. I 695 00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:45,520 Speaker 8: want to know about all the other people involved. Who 696 00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:49,080 Speaker 8: are actually carrying out his dirty ditty deeds. Who was phoning, 697 00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:52,000 Speaker 8: who was making the travel arrangements, the hotels, the car services, 698 00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:55,160 Speaker 8: who was securing the drugs, the loop everything we've talked 699 00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:58,040 Speaker 8: about for months about Dirty Diddy. This was a sex 700 00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:01,960 Speaker 8: trafficking operation across state lines. If they can stick with that, 701 00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:04,400 Speaker 8: we're going to have an outcome that is positive for 702 00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:08,480 Speaker 8: all sex trafficking survivors and victims. I maintain he is 703 00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:10,759 Speaker 8: going down. There is no defense here. Again, I'm not 704 00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:13,759 Speaker 8: a lawyer either, but you know what, video evidence. Too 705 00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:16,960 Speaker 8: many people talking about the same way they were treated, drugs, 706 00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:19,279 Speaker 8: all this stuff going on. Why though, I have to 707 00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:21,839 Speaker 8: leave you with this, Why was this allowed? Who are 708 00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:24,640 Speaker 8: the other complicit players? How did he get away with 709 00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:28,359 Speaker 8: this for so long. He is done, Dirty Diddy down. 710 00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:29,640 Speaker 8: And it begins today. 711 00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:35,440 Speaker 1: With lines wrapped around the courthouse, barricades, law enforcement trying 712 00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:39,040 Speaker 1: to keep the public out, everyone trying to get into 713 00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:41,880 Speaker 1: the courtroom to see Sean Combs on day one of 714 00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:45,160 Speaker 1: his trial. This is jury selection straight to the courthouse, 715 00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:47,880 Speaker 1: standing by Lauren Colin. 716 00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:51,560 Speaker 3: Co host Primetime Crime on YouTube. Lauren, what about JERRR? 717 00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:52,359 Speaker 3: Number two? 718 00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:56,000 Speaker 1: That certainly certainly started off with a bang ooh. 719 00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:58,680 Speaker 5: Nancy, you're number two. This is really interesting. 720 00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:03,680 Speaker 4: Number two had a family member who had experienced domestic violence, 721 00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:07,160 Speaker 4: but actually said that this would not affect them being 722 00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:11,360 Speaker 4: fair and impartial. They also were asked about public figures 723 00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:14,320 Speaker 4: like Michael B. Jordan and Mike Myers, and they also 724 00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:18,240 Speaker 4: said their familiarity with these public figures would not affect 725 00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:19,360 Speaker 4: them being impartial. 726 00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:21,200 Speaker 5: The law deer started. 727 00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:23,680 Speaker 4: About an hour and a half after did he arrived, 728 00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:24,239 Speaker 4: which is. 729 00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:29,360 Speaker 5: Around nine am. So yeah, they're getting things done. Nancy 730 00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:30,120 Speaker 5: joining me. 731 00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:35,160 Speaker 1: Private investigator Robert Crispin, former Federal Task Force officer usdj 732 00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:41,080 Speaker 1: DEA and Miami Field Division now Crispin Investigations dot Com. Robert, 733 00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:46,200 Speaker 1: you also investigated a lot of vice cases. I just 734 00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:49,160 Speaker 1: don't think a jury is going to buy the swinger 735 00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:53,680 Speaker 1: aspect or the fact the example that Fatus gave I 736 00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:56,200 Speaker 1: was too drunk to know what I was doing, because 737 00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:59,680 Speaker 1: there are so many counts. I mean, you've heard it before. 738 00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:00,680 Speaker 1: What how was dropped? 739 00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:03,400 Speaker 3: What happened? Yeah, that's not a defense obviously. 740 00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:06,239 Speaker 6: You know your lawyers will tell you that. You know. 741 00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:08,400 Speaker 6: In his video, if I can go back to that 742 00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:11,520 Speaker 6: for just one quick minute, he refers back to God 743 00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:14,480 Speaker 6: a lot. And I tell you, as an investigator investigating 744 00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:17,120 Speaker 6: a lot of people that were currently under investigation, not 745 00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:21,160 Speaker 6: in custody, yet you watch their behavior and if they're 746 00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:23,839 Speaker 6: a prime suspect, there is a pattern. And I think 747 00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:26,600 Speaker 6: the doctor will tell you, and other investigators will tell 748 00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:30,240 Speaker 6: you that guilty people or people believe to be guilty 749 00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:34,120 Speaker 6: always immediately turned to God. They start going to church 750 00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:37,600 Speaker 6: all the time, they start talking about God. That is, 751 00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:41,120 Speaker 6: to an investigator, one of the signs that your target 752 00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:45,600 Speaker 6: is probably guilty or pretty dark close to being guilty, 753 00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:50,720 Speaker 6: that God fearing bringing them into their interviews where there's 754 00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:53,200 Speaker 6: no pattern that we know of. Did he going to 755 00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:56,600 Speaker 6: church every Sunday? We're talking about God, but in this 756 00:40:56,719 --> 00:40:59,280 Speaker 6: video he refers to it and more than one occasion. 757 00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:03,600 Speaker 3: We wait as jury selection unfolds. It's expected to take 758 00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:07,400 Speaker 3: multiple days, very long days in the courtroom. 759 00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:10,280 Speaker 1: Let's see how Shawn Combs holds up under jury's selection, 760 00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:15,440 Speaker 1: looking each juror in the face as they answer questions about. 761 00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:17,120 Speaker 3: Him Sean Combs. 762 00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:21,759 Speaker 1: The trial set to start May twelve, but in actuality 763 00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:23,680 Speaker 1: it started today. 764 00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:27,360 Speaker 3: Nancy Grace signing off goodbye friend.