1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:06,000 Speaker 1: This is the most dramatic podcast ever and iHeartRadio podcast. 2 00:00:07,600 --> 00:00:11,000 Speaker 1: Chris Harrison coming to you from the home office in Austin, 3 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:15,000 Speaker 1: Texas with my love Lauren Zima. We are home. We 4 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:18,040 Speaker 1: were gone this weekend, as many saw on social media, 5 00:00:18,160 --> 00:00:20,240 Speaker 1: a lot of Bachelor Nation, a lot of our Bachelor 6 00:00:20,280 --> 00:00:23,000 Speaker 1: family were gone this weekend. We were all in La 7 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:27,400 Speaker 1: La Land for a big wedding of a very good 8 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 1: friend of ours. I think we confuse some people, first 9 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 1: of all, on the whole wedding thing of who it was, 10 00:00:33,360 --> 00:00:35,519 Speaker 1: because a lot of people saw our pictures, like, I 11 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:37,720 Speaker 1: don't know the bearded guy, who are those people dancing? 12 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:40,440 Speaker 1: And so let me just clear that up. To start, 13 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:44,600 Speaker 1: Alan Gail and Molly Quinn is who got married. So Alan, 14 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:47,839 Speaker 1: who Alan is to me was a young producer who 15 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:50,800 Speaker 1: I met on The Bachelor many many years ago, and 16 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:52,959 Speaker 1: I watched this young man come through the ranks as 17 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:56,520 Speaker 1: a producer, a segment producer, and on up to executive producer. 18 00:00:56,960 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 1: Unbelievably talented. He was there, I think the better part 19 00:00:59,840 --> 00:01:02,640 Speaker 1: of a decade. Alan was there, and he was really 20 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 1: there during the magic years of Ben Higgins and Ari 21 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:09,960 Speaker 1: and Jojo and all those years Emily made it all 22 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 1: those years that you really loved and when The Bachelor 23 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 1: was just crushing it. Milan was a big part of that, 24 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:17,560 Speaker 1: and so he was getting married to Mollie. And Mollie 25 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:19,560 Speaker 1: you might know as a great actress. 26 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 2: Yeah. 27 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 3: I think she was on the show Castle as a younger, 28 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 3: a child star, honestly, and then she's gone on to 29 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:29,920 Speaker 3: do She did a horror movie last year. Her and 30 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:32,759 Speaker 3: Alan make movies together and do a bunch of producing together. 31 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:36,480 Speaker 3: I knew Alan as a reporter even before I really 32 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:39,400 Speaker 3: knew you because when I first started covering the show, 33 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 3: which was twenty fifteen, Ben Higgins. This season was my 34 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 3: first season covering the show for Entertainment Tonight, Alan was 35 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 3: known as like. 36 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 4: The producer of The Bachelor. 37 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 3: I think he was the only one who sort of 38 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:52,760 Speaker 3: had a bit of a celebrity of his own as 39 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 3: a producer. Like he I think he went viral for 40 00:01:56,680 --> 00:01:58,960 Speaker 3: do you remember this for like tweeting a breakup which 41 00:01:59,000 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 3: I can't remember if. 42 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 1: The break up was real, he was fake. He did 43 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 1: a fake tweet on a plane. 44 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 3: Yes, and those tweets went viral because he kind of 45 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 3: like invented live tweeting a personal encounter to social media. 46 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:12,080 Speaker 4: I'll give him credit for that, even though he paid. 47 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 1: It really did he It was he was ahead of 48 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:16,800 Speaker 1: his time on social media. He's a really he's really 49 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:19,360 Speaker 1: brilliant as a producer but also as a writer. And 50 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 1: he's and I say this with all love, he's weird. 51 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 1: I think he embrace he's a weird dude. And so 52 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:26,920 Speaker 1: he was doing a lot of this stuff and that, 53 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:29,680 Speaker 1: honestly is what got him fired from The Bachelor is 54 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 1: he was too popular and too good. And I can't 55 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:36,240 Speaker 1: tell you that drove the creator of the show nuts. 56 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:39,680 Speaker 1: He hated a lawn. A lawn was so popular and 57 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:42,880 Speaker 1: everybody knew a lawn, and the creator of the Bachelor, 58 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:46,359 Speaker 1: it was so it was so sad to watch. He 59 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:49,360 Speaker 1: wanted followers. He would make all of us post stuff 60 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:51,720 Speaker 1: to get him followers on social media. He was so 61 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:54,840 Speaker 1: mad that I got social media followers that Alawn got 62 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:57,880 Speaker 1: so it was really hysterical. So when all that happened, 63 00:02:57,880 --> 00:03:00,520 Speaker 1: that just drove him crazy. And that's it what got 64 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:02,680 Speaker 1: him fired is a lawn just got too popular. They 65 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:05,120 Speaker 1: started a rule because of a lawn that people weren't 66 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:07,119 Speaker 1: allowed to post on social media. 67 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:12,359 Speaker 3: Isn't that great when your boss is upset about your success. Yes, exactly, 68 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 3: which you're getting because you're doing a good job. 69 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:17,800 Speaker 1: Our show was just the best part is we had 70 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:20,120 Speaker 1: this and everybody was there this week and it was awesome. 71 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 1: Bennett Grabner who was still with the show, Pete's Scaltar, 72 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:27,360 Speaker 1: and Elon Gale. It was a three headed monster at 73 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:29,399 Speaker 1: the time, and there were other talented people on the show. 74 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:31,360 Speaker 1: I don't mean it was just those three, but at 75 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 1: the time, really a lawn. Pete and Bennett were this 76 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 1: three headed monster that did a fighter of producers that 77 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 1: did a great job because they all kind of gave 78 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 1: us a little something different. And systematically there was so 79 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 1: much jealousy from above that two of those three people 80 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 1: got fired, and then others were being fired. The more 81 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:54,240 Speaker 1: people were talented and the better the show was doing, 82 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 1: the more jealousy there was, and the more they got 83 00:03:56,120 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 1: fired until there was no talent left. It was really bizarre. 84 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 3: The uh, it's like eating itself like you're not This 85 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:06,560 Speaker 3: is not a good way to grow a company. 86 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, narcissism is a wonderful thing to watch an action. 87 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 3: Well, what was great was the reunion of this group 88 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:18,719 Speaker 3: of people this weekend because you know, I think, yeah, 89 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 3: you and I have talked about this a lot. I 90 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:22,680 Speaker 3: am in the place now where I just think like 91 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:24,720 Speaker 3: a lot of good and a lot of bad came 92 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:26,599 Speaker 3: out of all the Bachelor stuff, and I think it's 93 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:29,279 Speaker 3: hard for a thing to be perfect. And when a 94 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 3: thing is that successful, there's obviously and successful via drama. 95 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:35,760 Speaker 3: There's going to be drama behind the scenes too. But 96 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 3: this weekend it was really great to see everybody. There 97 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:43,919 Speaker 3: were Okay, Bachelor wise, we had Ben Higgins and Jess Clark, 98 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:47,279 Speaker 3: who is just, oh my gosh. Jess has never looked 99 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 3: more beautiful. 100 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:50,839 Speaker 1: You don't have cliche about glowing when you're pregnant. 101 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, she it's suiting her so well. She was just like. 102 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 3: Lively and gorgeous and it was so good to see 103 00:04:57,080 --> 00:04:59,680 Speaker 3: her and you know, her inventor, just the kindest of people. 104 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:01,040 Speaker 4: We love them so much. 105 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:04,560 Speaker 3: And Raven and Adam. That was a funny story which 106 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:09,160 Speaker 3: I will reveal on here. Raven got her dates mixed 107 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:12,560 Speaker 3: up on when the wedding was. I texted her Friday 108 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 3: and said, can't wait to see you tomorrow. 109 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:15,039 Speaker 4: She said, for what? 110 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:19,040 Speaker 3: And she and Adam love Elan so much that they 111 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 3: booked a flight the next day and got their butts 112 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:25,279 Speaker 3: down to the wedding. Dear sweet Raven, who is busy 113 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:28,279 Speaker 3: with two kids at home at put the wedding as 114 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:31,720 Speaker 3: a date in twenty twenty five in her calendar. She 115 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:34,360 Speaker 3: was had RSVP and was ready to appear, but thought 116 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 3: it was next year. My phone call with Raven was 117 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:38,720 Speaker 3: amazing because I called her, I'm like, what do you 118 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 3: mean for what? And she's like in her everything's better 119 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:44,240 Speaker 3: in her southern accent, Lauren, Oh my god, I got 120 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:46,599 Speaker 3: two kids at my head up my butt. I thought 121 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 3: it was next year. Adam is so mad at me. 122 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 3: But they came and it was awesome to see them. 123 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 3: Who else am I missing? 124 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:59,040 Speaker 1: It was a ball or move and people, Well, two 125 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:01,839 Speaker 1: people that weren't there asked about Wells and Sarah. Sarah's 126 00:06:01,839 --> 00:06:03,599 Speaker 1: on Broadway right now, so they were in New York. 127 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 1: Sadly they had to miss. 128 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:06,799 Speaker 4: Ashley and Jared. 129 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:09,200 Speaker 1: Jared, they've had a baby since you've. 130 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:11,880 Speaker 3: Seen that, I mean, I know they've two kids for 131 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:14,800 Speaker 3: them now as well. They revealed that they conceived our 132 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:16,800 Speaker 3: baby right around our wedding. 133 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 1: I thought it was I thought she was going to 134 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 1: say at our wedding, and I was like, oh, that's 135 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 1: great name the baby Austin. 136 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 3: It was after us, well, it was in my mind, 137 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:25,920 Speaker 3: it was there. She was like, it was like a 138 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:27,400 Speaker 3: week later. I'm like, well, maybe it was at the 139 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:30,000 Speaker 3: wedding a week earlier. 140 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:35,360 Speaker 1: Grocery store Joe was there and Serena, Yes, they look 141 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 1: they look so happy. 142 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:39,159 Speaker 3: I know, they're like so positive and such a lovely, 143 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:43,520 Speaker 3: gorgeous couple Ari Ari and Lauren and another just good 144 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:45,679 Speaker 3: looking pair. There's so many beautiful people at these weddings. 145 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:47,600 Speaker 1: They should have been on television. 146 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:51,320 Speaker 3: And so happy to see them, and I want them 147 00:06:51,320 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 3: to have more babies. 148 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:54,800 Speaker 1: There were some people behind the scenes too. Bennett Gradner 149 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:57,040 Speaker 1: was there, who was who is still an executive producer 150 00:06:57,080 --> 00:06:59,160 Speaker 1: on the show and I still keep in touch with. 151 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:04,599 Speaker 1: And Nicole Woods was there, Michael Shay, who is the 152 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 1: director farm producer and she's left the show. Peter Geist, 153 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 1: who was another one who was let go from the show, 154 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 1: who was incredibly talented. Basically anybody talented was there, and 155 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:17,560 Speaker 1: they've all been let go from the show over the years, 156 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 1: except for Bennett, who still somehow has survived. God bless 157 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 1: his soul, and Michael Shay, who was the director of 158 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:27,160 Speaker 1: all the Great Bachelor in Paradise years and is a 159 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 1: phenomenal director on the show. And so it was fun 160 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 1: to for me, it was fun to walk back into 161 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 1: that world and with a bunch of friends, people I love, 162 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 1: people I miss because, as you just said, Lauren's right, 163 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 1: not everything's perfect, and yes, thing's in for a reason. 164 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:46,120 Speaker 1: And I think everybody knows how dramatic my ending was, 165 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:49,960 Speaker 1: and everybody leaves in their own particular way, but it 166 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:53,120 Speaker 1: can't diminish the good. And I think that happens a 167 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 1: lot in life when we leave situations and you let 168 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 1: it taint the whole thing, you let it tarnish the 169 00:07:57,880 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 1: whole thing. For me, I told before we went, I 170 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:04,800 Speaker 1: had maybe an ounce of trepidation, but I was I 171 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 1: was really excited to see everybody. A lot of people 172 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 1: had reached out about being excited to see U. JP 173 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:10,760 Speaker 1: Rosenbaum was there. 174 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 4: We were trying to set them up with somebody. 175 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 1: I was trying to set them up with somebody. 176 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 3: No, no potentials there, but you know JP is single 177 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:18,120 Speaker 3: and ready to mingle. 178 00:08:18,520 --> 00:08:21,640 Speaker 1: There was one potential there. Oh yeah, she's on the 179 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 1: opposite coast, and so I don't think it's I don't 180 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 1: think it would behoove us to make that work. 181 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 3: Also, former producer Cassie Lambert, Yes, who you were. I 182 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:32,640 Speaker 3: was excited to meet a couple of these people because 183 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:34,679 Speaker 3: you told me great stories about Pete and Cassie and 184 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:36,199 Speaker 3: I never met them, and they are so fun and 185 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 3: such a blast, and you know, I actually think but like, 186 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 3: I appreciate you saying you had a little trepidation because 187 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:45,079 Speaker 3: there were a couple of people you hadn't seen since 188 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 3: leaving the show, like between the pandemic and us moving 189 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 3: to Texas. And I know a few of those in 190 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 3: their producers, and a few of them you'd like, I 191 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 3: think one you'd had a phone call with, and one 192 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 3: you had not. 193 00:08:56,320 --> 00:08:58,600 Speaker 4: You had not spoken to since all this happened. 194 00:08:58,280 --> 00:09:00,360 Speaker 1: Because some of you know, some of the producers. Look 195 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:02,120 Speaker 1: at the time when I left, a lot of those 196 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:04,760 Speaker 1: producers were still there and they had been family to 197 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:06,840 Speaker 1: me for a long time. But they also had to 198 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:10,080 Speaker 1: pick sides, and so I didn't begrudge them that I 199 00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 1: wasn't mad. I mean, you would love for people to 200 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:20,720 Speaker 1: stand up and say, you know, this isn't working. This 201 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 1: isn't right. You know, we believe in Chris. We love you, 202 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:25,160 Speaker 1: and I knew they loved me. But I also knew 203 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:26,720 Speaker 1: that they had a job to do, and they have families, 204 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 1: and they had lives and mortgages to pay. And I 205 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 1: also went through a moment this weekend where I realized 206 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:35,400 Speaker 1: I hadn't done that for somebody on the show, a 207 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:38,720 Speaker 1: producer who I talked to about that this weekend. It 208 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:41,679 Speaker 1: was kind of a cathartic weekend. And so while you 209 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:44,240 Speaker 1: hope for certain things, you can't let that cloud your 210 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:46,559 Speaker 1: judgment of people when they had to make a choice, 211 00:09:46,559 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 1: and they were forced to make a choice. And it's 212 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:52,120 Speaker 1: something that I actually really leaned into this weekend and 213 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 1: learned because you and I talked through a certain issue 214 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:58,360 Speaker 1: when you don't hold the power in a situation, when 215 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:02,680 Speaker 1: when power is leveraged against you, you really are forced 216 00:10:02,679 --> 00:10:06,040 Speaker 1: to do certain things. And I know a lot of 217 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:08,320 Speaker 1: these people were forced to do certain things at the time, 218 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:11,679 Speaker 1: and so I never begrudge them that and I hold 219 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:15,440 Speaker 1: no ill will. And when I saw them this weekend there, 220 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:18,079 Speaker 1: let's just say this, there were some extra long hugs 221 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:21,200 Speaker 1: with three or four people that I hadn't seen since 222 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:24,559 Speaker 1: I left the show, mostly off camera, behind the scenes producers, 223 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:27,199 Speaker 1: where we all just held each other a little tighter 224 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:30,280 Speaker 1: than normal and hugged about three or four seconds longer, 225 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:32,440 Speaker 1: where we just wanted each other to know, Hey, I 226 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:34,240 Speaker 1: still love you, I still respect you, and I'm so 227 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:36,520 Speaker 1: happy to see you. And that made my heart feel 228 00:10:36,559 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 1: really good. 229 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:38,560 Speaker 4: See you walked away feeling good. 230 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:41,480 Speaker 1: I felt great. Yeah, yeah, I felt so good about 231 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:44,520 Speaker 1: coming home. I was on a high. And obviously the 232 00:10:44,559 --> 00:10:47,800 Speaker 1: cast members I've always had a great relationship with, obviously 233 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 1: Ben and Joe and Serena since I've met her through Joe. 234 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:53,120 Speaker 1: I didn't get to know her on the show, but 235 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:55,200 Speaker 1: I've met her through grocery store Joe, who I still 236 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:58,120 Speaker 1: call grocery store Joe. But Ari and Lauren and you 237 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:00,480 Speaker 1: name it. It was fun to just see all the people. 238 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:14,839 Speaker 1: So let's talk about the wedding. There wasn't a lot 239 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 1: of drama. I hate to say this. I would love 240 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:19,320 Speaker 1: to come with some crazy juice today that there was 241 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:24,720 Speaker 1: an amazing drama. But again, what I found was much 242 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:28,120 Speaker 1: like our wedding, which was a year ago. We're coming 243 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:31,600 Speaker 1: up on a year. It was just wonderful when all 244 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:33,640 Speaker 1: these people, a lot of these cast members and producers 245 00:11:33,679 --> 00:11:36,200 Speaker 1: got together. We were all just really excited to see 246 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:37,560 Speaker 1: each other in Well, I'll. 247 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:39,240 Speaker 3: Be honest, I think there are a few things under 248 00:11:39,280 --> 00:11:43,520 Speaker 3: the surface, but you don't bring that up at somebody's wedding. 249 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:47,679 Speaker 3: I think that's the bit, the more truthful reality, Like 250 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:50,920 Speaker 3: there wasn't drama because you don't choose to make drama 251 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:53,640 Speaker 3: someone's wedding. Like I think there were a few. I 252 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:55,440 Speaker 3: mean I even heard a few people be like like, 253 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:56,760 Speaker 3: there are a few people like, oh, I'm a little 254 00:11:56,800 --> 00:11:59,560 Speaker 3: tense to see this person or that person, and like 255 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 3: you just said, you had a little trepidation. Maybe not drama, 256 00:12:02,160 --> 00:12:05,640 Speaker 3: but I mean I found out later about our wedding, Like, 257 00:12:05,679 --> 00:12:09,160 Speaker 3: for example, Jess Clark and I were talking a little 258 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:13,800 Speaker 3: bit so at our wedding. I didn't know at the time, 259 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 3: and I'm glad people like hit it from us because 260 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:18,079 Speaker 3: we were just enjoying the wedding. It's the polite thing 261 00:12:18,080 --> 00:12:19,960 Speaker 3: to do, if you guys, if you're bringing drama into 262 00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:23,120 Speaker 3: a situation, leave it at the door at someone's wedding, right, 263 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:26,720 Speaker 3: But I found out later there was like chatter happening 264 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:28,360 Speaker 3: when we had all the Bachelor of people at our 265 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:32,440 Speaker 3: house on Friday before our wedding on Saturday, about Caitlyn 266 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:35,160 Speaker 3: and Tasha and like between Caitlyn and Tasha, because Caitlyn 267 00:12:35,160 --> 00:12:37,920 Speaker 3: and Tasha were both there and at the time it 268 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:40,840 Speaker 3: was like Caitlin is seeing Zach and Tasha was obviously 269 00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:41,560 Speaker 3: tense about that. 270 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:42,600 Speaker 4: And what. 271 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:48,360 Speaker 3: I sort of realized this weekend was Caitlin just revealed 272 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:50,640 Speaker 3: in the press that she had this phone call with Tasha, right. 273 00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:52,319 Speaker 4: I think she revealed that on her podcast. 274 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:56,240 Speaker 3: That phone call where Caitlin was like, I'm dating Zach 275 00:12:56,640 --> 00:12:59,320 Speaker 3: was apparently just a couple days before our wedding. 276 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 1: Yes, he had no idea. 277 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:02,319 Speaker 4: So the drama. 278 00:13:02,679 --> 00:13:04,880 Speaker 3: I knew there was tension at the wedding, but I 279 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:06,920 Speaker 3: didn't know just how fresh it all was. 280 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:09,559 Speaker 1: Two days before our wedding they had that phone call. 281 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:12,560 Speaker 3: Well, and I think Caitlyn and Tasha were both invited 282 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:14,960 Speaker 3: to this wedding this weekend and neither showed up. 283 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:17,040 Speaker 4: And I do not know why. 284 00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:20,160 Speaker 3: I have no idea why, but I was wondering how 285 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:22,120 Speaker 3: that would be and if stuff would get worked out 286 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:23,920 Speaker 3: or not, Like sometimes the wedding can be a great 287 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:27,360 Speaker 3: moment for a conversation to be had. You know, if 288 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:29,800 Speaker 3: there is drama, make sure it's positive at the wedding. 289 00:13:29,880 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 4: But yeah, they didn't show up. 290 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:33,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, that was I was going to say, that's the 291 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:37,679 Speaker 1: only thing that may have helped, honestly, because I guess, well, 292 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 1: I was wondering how it would be very publicly. That 293 00:13:40,280 --> 00:13:43,280 Speaker 1: drama has continued on and there's been more and I 294 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:46,360 Speaker 1: guess look, at first there was the rumors that Caitlyn 295 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:50,920 Speaker 1: had dated Zach, Tasha's old fiance. Now that's just public knowledge, 296 00:13:50,920 --> 00:13:55,320 Speaker 1: and Caitlyn has confirmed it herself, as only Caitlin would 297 00:13:55,400 --> 00:14:00,559 Speaker 1: about the picture that she would release, But. 298 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:02,880 Speaker 4: She I had a picture. 299 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:06,000 Speaker 1: She I think she made like a She made kind 300 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:08,240 Speaker 1: of a crude joke that didn't go over well that 301 00:14:08,320 --> 00:14:10,600 Speaker 1: she should have just sent a picture of her pleasuring. 302 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:12,600 Speaker 4: Oh oh, it. 303 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:14,400 Speaker 1: Was a joke and it didn't go over well. 304 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:16,480 Speaker 4: We need to have Kaitlin on, I know. 305 00:14:16,400 --> 00:14:20,000 Speaker 1: We should, we should and reached out. Tasha reached out 306 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:22,800 Speaker 1: and texted before the wedding, was like, hey, I'm sorry, 307 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:25,280 Speaker 1: I'm not going to be there. I miss you. I 308 00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:26,800 Speaker 1: didn't put two and two together at the time, so 309 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:29,320 Speaker 1: I didn't ask why. I didn't say, is it because 310 00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:31,720 Speaker 1: you just don't want this interaction to happen? And I 311 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 1: get Look, if you haven't, if you really are at 312 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:36,440 Speaker 1: war with somebody, it's not great to show up at 313 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:38,520 Speaker 1: the same wedding. But I wish they would have been there. 314 00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:42,520 Speaker 1: I need to bring these two back together. That's that's 315 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:45,320 Speaker 1: my new goal. I'm going to bring Tasia Caitlin back together. 316 00:14:45,640 --> 00:14:46,920 Speaker 4: Do you think that's possible? 317 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 1: I think so. I think I think we can. 318 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:52,560 Speaker 3: I don't know if they were were they I guess 319 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:53,520 Speaker 3: they were friends before. 320 00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:57,400 Speaker 1: I think they were friendly. You know, I don't know 321 00:14:57,440 --> 00:14:59,880 Speaker 1: what happened when I left and they were brought in 322 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:02,400 Speaker 1: and how they were pitted against each other. I know 323 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:05,440 Speaker 1: they were very much used in that situation. I also 324 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:08,520 Speaker 1: know how the Bachelor world works, so I know that 325 00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:12,240 Speaker 1: they were probably also produced against each other, pitted against 326 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:14,480 Speaker 1: each other, which is quite silly, but that's just how 327 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:17,240 Speaker 1: that world works behind the scenes. And then when they 328 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:19,720 Speaker 1: were after they were done being used and they were 329 00:15:19,720 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 1: ceremoniously fired by the show, I'm sure that created even 330 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:27,000 Speaker 1: more animosity of whose fault it was and all of that, 331 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:29,760 Speaker 1: And they're both being told different things, So I get 332 00:15:29,800 --> 00:15:31,800 Speaker 1: how some of that was built up. Then obviously the 333 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:34,840 Speaker 1: Zach of it all and dating her ex fiance took 334 00:15:34,880 --> 00:15:37,040 Speaker 1: it to an entirely new level. So I think it 335 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:40,680 Speaker 1: was a fractured relationship that then was blown up because 336 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:43,320 Speaker 1: of the Zach thing. And then obviously things did not 337 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:46,280 Speaker 1: come together this weekend at the wedding, but Alan invited 338 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:49,440 Speaker 1: them both and so it was a great wedding and 339 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:52,400 Speaker 1: I'm glad there are these moments that still bring it together. 340 00:15:52,440 --> 00:15:55,160 Speaker 1: And when we posted some of the pictures, one of 341 00:15:55,240 --> 00:15:57,560 Speaker 1: the kind of themes I saw and a lot of 342 00:15:57,560 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 1: the responses was this is when I love the show 343 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:02,200 Speaker 1: most these are the OG's. And the funny thing is 344 00:16:02,240 --> 00:16:04,720 Speaker 1: not even the ogs. I mean, that's not Andrew Firestone, 345 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:07,040 Speaker 1: Bob Guinny, Trista Wrenn. But to a lot of people 346 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:09,320 Speaker 1: who kind of grew up on the show started in 347 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:11,400 Speaker 1: high school or college, that that that was the OG. 348 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:14,480 Speaker 3: I think they say OG because they mean it was 349 00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:17,320 Speaker 3: like a really good era too, like that time of 350 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:19,720 Speaker 3: like Ben and I mean that's when I started covering 351 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:21,600 Speaker 3: the show, and that was a good time of the 352 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:22,440 Speaker 3: Ben and. 353 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 4: Caitlin, and like I'm Ashley, I and Jared and like 354 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:28,280 Speaker 4: that Raven. 355 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:30,360 Speaker 2: That was a good era, you know what. Okay, so 356 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:32,240 Speaker 2: let's put that I covered the show in a good time. 357 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:35,360 Speaker 2: Let's put this in Taylor Swift parlance. Let's go I 358 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:38,840 Speaker 2: would say there's the Trista era. Yeah, and that would 359 00:16:38,920 --> 00:16:43,200 Speaker 2: encompass Bob Ginny Andrew Firestone the beginning of the show, 360 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:46,520 Speaker 2: and then we had kind of Apex Mountain, the Trista era. 361 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:51,080 Speaker 2: The next era, gosh, you know that was what JP 362 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:52,880 Speaker 2: would have probably been a part of. And I'm not 363 00:16:52,920 --> 00:16:53,960 Speaker 2: sure who would be that. 364 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:55,960 Speaker 4: Like Jason and Molly, JP and Ashley are they in 365 00:16:56,040 --> 00:16:56,440 Speaker 4: the same era? 366 00:16:56,560 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 1: The Mesnik era Okay, the mezzenoak Air, the messene era, yeah, 367 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:04,080 Speaker 1: because he pulled the full Mesnick crying in New Zealand. 368 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:06,120 Speaker 1: That was so famous. Okay, So you would go from 369 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:09,560 Speaker 1: Trista to the Mesnick era. Then I would almost go 370 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:12,040 Speaker 1: back to a Bachelor. It's almost the the Jojo Ben 371 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:16,160 Speaker 1: Higgins era. Well, let's give him two in that Mount Rushmore, 372 00:17:16,359 --> 00:17:18,679 Speaker 1: that era, the Ben Higgins Jojo. 373 00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:23,159 Speaker 4: Sean though where Sean low Right is Sean? Like is 374 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:25,960 Speaker 4: that's like him and Emily Maynard And like there's like some. 375 00:17:25,880 --> 00:17:28,800 Speaker 1: Good and all that. Yeah, maybe we've got to throw 376 00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:29,520 Speaker 1: an era in there. 377 00:17:29,560 --> 00:17:32,440 Speaker 4: Well, this dealer shift as many albums, the Bachelors. 378 00:17:32,520 --> 00:17:34,440 Speaker 1: The Shan Loow era, and then I think that gave 379 00:17:34,480 --> 00:17:38,880 Speaker 1: way to the Jojo Ben era. And then let's see 380 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:40,800 Speaker 1: who would have been the last great era. 381 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 4: I think that was. 382 00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:44,000 Speaker 1: It. 383 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:47,359 Speaker 3: Well, I mean that like finished, no, you know what 384 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:51,600 Speaker 3: the last the last one was like Colton Peter Hannah. 385 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:54,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you're right, that was it. 386 00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:57,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, and then it kind of I think I'm going. 387 00:17:57,359 --> 00:18:00,840 Speaker 1: To give that nod to Coulton Hannah, the Calton Hannah era. 388 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:05,040 Speaker 1: The jump the fence. He just efing jumped the fence 389 00:18:05,400 --> 00:18:08,440 Speaker 1: to Hannah, which it was hard to beat. Hannah moving 390 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:12,119 Speaker 1: the podium in the middle of a roserver. Sure, okay, 391 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:15,560 Speaker 1: have we not done that yet? The Taylor Swift eras tour. 392 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:17,520 Speaker 4: We need to come to the show names though. 393 00:18:17,359 --> 00:18:20,119 Speaker 1: Okay, we'll work on that. But a great wedding and 394 00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:24,359 Speaker 1: our love to Alawn and Mollie. James Gunn. I guess 395 00:18:24,359 --> 00:18:27,800 Speaker 1: we'd be remiss if we didn't mention James Gunn, who 396 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:31,760 Speaker 1: is the creator and director of Guardians at the Galaxy Movies. 397 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:33,640 Speaker 1: He's now in charge of the DC universe. 398 00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:36,399 Speaker 3: Okay, he officiated their wedding. Sorry, I just took the 399 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:38,720 Speaker 3: words on your mouth. Did an excellent job, I really did. 400 00:18:38,760 --> 00:18:41,560 Speaker 3: He introduced them, so he was the perfect person to officiate, 401 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:44,359 Speaker 3: and he was super funny and their vows were incredible. 402 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:47,199 Speaker 3: Just they've been together ten years, so they I think 403 00:18:47,240 --> 00:18:49,080 Speaker 3: they even said this in their vows. They've been through 404 00:18:49,680 --> 00:18:51,880 Speaker 3: been through it together and their love. 405 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:52,440 Speaker 4: Is so deep. 406 00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:54,639 Speaker 3: And I was tearing up during the vows, which I 407 00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:56,359 Speaker 3: just love when people write their own vows at a wedding. 408 00:18:56,800 --> 00:19:00,280 Speaker 3: But I didn't realize is the Bachelor. How you all 409 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:01,840 Speaker 3: met James gun Yeah. 410 00:19:01,640 --> 00:19:04,359 Speaker 1: Well no, I don't know how Alan met James gun 411 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:07,680 Speaker 1: but many years ago he became friends with James. I'm 412 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:10,120 Speaker 1: not sure you know how Alawn and his weird world 413 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:14,000 Speaker 1: connected with him, but he did. And then he brought 414 00:19:14,080 --> 00:19:16,440 Speaker 1: James on the show. We did those after Paradise shows 415 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:19,280 Speaker 1: when we'd bring celebrities on and they would talk about 416 00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:22,359 Speaker 1: the show that we just watched, and James Gunn was 417 00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:24,040 Speaker 1: nice enough to come on the show. And that's where 418 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:27,960 Speaker 1: I met James and befriended him. And it was good 419 00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:29,600 Speaker 1: to see him after because I haven't seen him in 420 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:31,480 Speaker 1: a while, and it was great. He came up to 421 00:19:31,480 --> 00:19:32,960 Speaker 1: me and I said, first of all, I have priest 422 00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:36,200 Speaker 1: envy because you know, I love hosting and officiating these events. 423 00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:38,320 Speaker 1: But I said, you did a great job. I'm really happy. 424 00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:41,359 Speaker 1: And he told the personal story because Alan and Molly 425 00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:44,080 Speaker 1: actually met at a holiday party at James Gunn's house 426 00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:46,199 Speaker 1: in his kitchen, so it was great to tell that 427 00:19:46,280 --> 00:19:48,800 Speaker 1: story and they had that connection. And he walked up 428 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:51,000 Speaker 1: to me, gave me a hug, and he's like, dang, 429 00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:53,679 Speaker 1: it's good to see you. He's like, man, you really 430 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:58,359 Speaker 1: got and I said, so did you, and he goes, 431 00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:01,560 Speaker 1: you're right, and I said, you know the irony by 432 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:07,560 Speaker 1: the same company, and it's true. ABC Disney just both yes, 433 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:08,640 Speaker 1: because he. 434 00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:11,320 Speaker 3: Got like I remember now he got fired for those 435 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:14,399 Speaker 3: for old tweets, yeah, taking off his movies. 436 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:16,919 Speaker 1: I think the only difference is he had people that 437 00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:19,040 Speaker 1: stood behind him and he got right back on Chris 438 00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:19,800 Speaker 1: Pratt in that whole. 439 00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:21,720 Speaker 3: I think it took a couple of years, but he did. 440 00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:25,080 Speaker 3: The eventually brought him back for Guardians. Yeah, and you're right, 441 00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:26,760 Speaker 3: the cast supported him. 442 00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:30,600 Speaker 1: Well, there you go. But he was funny. It was 443 00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:32,160 Speaker 1: a funny little give and take, and it was funny 444 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:36,399 Speaker 1: how people were really starstrking bestly Jared Habn big decent. 445 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:37,920 Speaker 4: Well, Jared's a movie guys. 446 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:40,359 Speaker 3: You know what, though, I don't think because I know, 447 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:44,159 Speaker 3: I look, when everything happened, people asked, like, wanted the 448 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:45,159 Speaker 3: cast to support you more. 449 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:47,080 Speaker 4: And I remember you saying, and we've said this. 450 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:50,639 Speaker 3: Before, that you knew anybody who did support you was 451 00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:53,439 Speaker 3: going to get dreamed. I do think that when the 452 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:55,919 Speaker 3: cast spoke out for James Gunn, it didn't like happen 453 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:58,000 Speaker 3: right away. It was still I mean, it was such 454 00:20:58,040 --> 00:21:01,040 Speaker 3: a tough time. It was I think years before he 455 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:02,640 Speaker 3: was brought back. But that's funny that you guys had 456 00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:03,080 Speaker 3: that moment. 457 00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:07,120 Speaker 1: Okay, before we go, we have to talk about something 458 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:09,560 Speaker 1: that took place yesterday, and I know, don't run. 459 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:13,040 Speaker 3: Away the Chimp Crazy finale in HBO the new episode 460 00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:14,000 Speaker 3: of Industry on HBO. 461 00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:17,000 Speaker 1: Okay, I do want you to mention the Chimp Crazy 462 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:21,240 Speaker 1: craze because everybody Joe Rogan's talking about that now here 463 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:25,040 Speaker 1: in Austin. You're obsessed with it. The finale was last night. 464 00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:27,560 Speaker 3: It's only a four part docuseries. It's from the guy 465 00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:30,000 Speaker 3: who did Tiger King, Eric Good is the director. I 466 00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:34,640 Speaker 3: couldn't recommend it more because it's not just a docuseries 467 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:39,639 Speaker 3: about people who own exotic animals, chimpanzees especially. It's not 468 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:42,640 Speaker 3: just like, oh, this industry is messed up. There are 469 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:46,119 Speaker 3: criminal twists and turns here. I mean the guy who 470 00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:50,280 Speaker 3: did Tiger King like he picks the right people. There 471 00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:54,040 Speaker 3: are twists and turns in a way just like there 472 00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:56,960 Speaker 3: were with Joe Exotic, where you're like, whoa which way 473 00:21:57,040 --> 00:22:02,000 Speaker 3: is this going? And it is absolutely captivating. And the 474 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:05,880 Speaker 3: finale surprised me. Okay, the last few minutes of the finale, 475 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:07,560 Speaker 3: I'm like, on the one hand, you've got to be 476 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:10,040 Speaker 3: kidding me. On the other hand, this makes total sense. Wow. 477 00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:13,240 Speaker 4: And it's a fascinating study in people as well. 478 00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:15,000 Speaker 1: And what we've learned is, and I've not seen it, 479 00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:17,600 Speaker 1: but what we've learned is anybody who owns or deals 480 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:19,480 Speaker 1: with exotic animals just run. 481 00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:21,439 Speaker 4: Well, there's something really interesting. 482 00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:24,280 Speaker 1: Anyone who owns a tiger, who owns a chimp, or 483 00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:28,480 Speaker 1: owns some weird exotic animal just that's not normal. So 484 00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:30,879 Speaker 1: just no buyer beware if you're getting involved with anyone 485 00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:32,160 Speaker 1: we'll see these people like. 486 00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:35,000 Speaker 3: Look, but there's the element of Okay, like a tiger, 487 00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:37,959 Speaker 3: you're like, this is a wild animal, I don't know, 488 00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:40,560 Speaker 3: it might attack you at some point. Same with a chimp, right, 489 00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:45,240 Speaker 3: And I think what the question gets into is how 490 00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:48,160 Speaker 3: much love is there? And with chimps it's even more 491 00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:51,080 Speaker 3: interesting than tiger's because they're so human like. Right, So 492 00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:54,200 Speaker 3: there's this people study and this isn't a spoiler alert. 493 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:57,160 Speaker 4: You'll see it throughout the show of especially women. 494 00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:01,320 Speaker 3: They buy these chimps and they treat them like babies, 495 00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:03,800 Speaker 3: like because with a chimp, you know, when they're little, 496 00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:06,399 Speaker 3: you can put it in a dog, carry it around, 497 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:10,639 Speaker 3: and they really think the animals love them until they 498 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:14,520 Speaker 3: grow up. Right, And there's really and these women admit 499 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:16,840 Speaker 3: it on camera like that they need to be needed, 500 00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:19,600 Speaker 3: and it's interesting some of them are like, well, my 501 00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:22,200 Speaker 3: kids left the house and I still needed to be needed. 502 00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:26,160 Speaker 3: And it's a fascinating study to me. I do think 503 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:28,680 Speaker 3: there's a whole episode, if not multiple, that we could 504 00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:31,120 Speaker 3: do on the podcast about like, I don't know, we've 505 00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:32,800 Speaker 3: seen it with a lot of moms we know, and 506 00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:35,399 Speaker 3: I'm not like criticizing moms over this I'm saying. I 507 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:37,680 Speaker 3: think we need to acknowledge more like when kids leave 508 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:41,480 Speaker 3: the house, that's a retirement and that's a life change 509 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:44,080 Speaker 3: that we need to support women on more so. 510 00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:47,480 Speaker 1: You don't get a chump. Well, okay, so my broadcast 511 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:50,840 Speaker 1: note would be the debut of Tom Brady. Oh he 512 00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:52,000 Speaker 1: made his broadcast. Abuma. 513 00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:54,320 Speaker 3: We do a good man's plain on this so that 514 00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:57,440 Speaker 3: listeners can go and talk to their So Tom Brad 515 00:23:57,520 --> 00:23:58,159 Speaker 3: husband's about it. 516 00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:00,760 Speaker 1: Tom Brady the greatest quarterback of all time, the goat 517 00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:04,320 Speaker 1: obviously has won more Super Bowls than anybody, et cetera. 518 00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:06,199 Speaker 1: I think we all know who Tom Brady is. But 519 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:11,440 Speaker 1: he retired from football and there was a bidding frenzy. 520 00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:16,600 Speaker 1: Fox Sports won the war at the tune of three 521 00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:20,639 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty million dollars. That is tom Brady's so 522 00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:24,280 Speaker 1: right there. I don't know, but so it's but there's 523 00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:26,000 Speaker 1: not enough years left in his life to ever make 524 00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:28,080 Speaker 1: that makes sense. But that was the first thing that 525 00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:29,840 Speaker 1: people were up in arms about about him making three 526 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:32,360 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty million dollars, and people you know, were 527 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:35,800 Speaker 1: trolling him because it wasn't a great debut. But my 528 00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:38,240 Speaker 1: point in all of this is I didn't expect him 529 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:41,120 Speaker 1: to have a good debut. There was no chance he 530 00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:48,560 Speaker 1: was going to have a good debut because television is difficult. 531 00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:50,639 Speaker 1: Tom Brady is the greatest of all time, first of all. 532 00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:52,879 Speaker 1: The three hundred and fifty million, if that's what Fox 533 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:55,159 Speaker 1: chooses to pay him, that's on Fox. It's not on 534 00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:57,280 Speaker 1: Tom Brady. If someone came to me and said, hey, Chris, 535 00:24:57,280 --> 00:24:59,320 Speaker 1: we're going to give you nine hundred million dollars to 536 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:02,480 Speaker 1: mow your well lawn, great, Okay, I'm not worth that, 537 00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:05,720 Speaker 1: but I'm going to take it. So let's put the 538 00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:09,240 Speaker 1: money aside. Let's talk about the performance. Tom Brady has 539 00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:11,640 Speaker 1: never done anything in his life to prepare for being 540 00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:16,320 Speaker 1: on television. And he's a great quarterback, and his knowledge 541 00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:18,560 Speaker 1: of being the greatest quarterback of all time is definitely 542 00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:22,800 Speaker 1: helpful in this situation. And he's been interviewed, but being 543 00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:25,480 Speaker 1: able to be interviewed and just talk in a monotone 544 00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:28,359 Speaker 1: voice and recount what you did today and someone is 545 00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:30,359 Speaker 1: going to edit that to the most important parts and 546 00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:34,000 Speaker 1: there's no stress, you can't mess up. That doesn't equate 547 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:36,359 Speaker 1: to being good on television. And I see this a 548 00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:38,879 Speaker 1: lot in reality TV where people are like, oh, I'm 549 00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:40,520 Speaker 1: going to be a host. I'm on TV and I'm 550 00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:42,119 Speaker 1: good on TV, so therefore I'm going to be a 551 00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:45,600 Speaker 1: good host. Those two things don't equate. 552 00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:47,960 Speaker 3: Well, they don't realize the producers made them good and 553 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:50,320 Speaker 3: then the editors made them good and it wasn't. 554 00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:52,680 Speaker 1: Just all that right exactly. A lot goes into making 555 00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:55,720 Speaker 1: you look good on TV as opposed to you actually 556 00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:59,240 Speaker 1: being good on TV, adding color to a situation, or 557 00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:02,040 Speaker 1: hosting a show, oh, et cetera. No one just walks 558 00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:03,919 Speaker 1: into a room and says, great, I'm going to pick 559 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:06,480 Speaker 1: up a microphone for the first time, and I'm going 560 00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:10,159 Speaker 1: to look like myself, sound like myself, be natural. And 561 00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:14,320 Speaker 1: it's what you do in those situations is you act. 562 00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:17,080 Speaker 1: You overthink. It's as if I was going to be 563 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:19,680 Speaker 1: quarterback and I would go in, I would pretend I'm 564 00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:22,720 Speaker 1: Tom Brady. I would look at the other players on 565 00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:24,399 Speaker 1: the other side of the field, and it would it 566 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:26,760 Speaker 1: would feel to me like things are going one thousand 567 00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:29,119 Speaker 1: miles an hour. I would try to think about how 568 00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:31,320 Speaker 1: I'm gonna throw, how I'm gonna move, what's going on. 569 00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:33,520 Speaker 1: Tom Brady doesn't think when he's on the field, he 570 00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:36,399 Speaker 1: just sees something and it's second nature. It's like that 571 00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:38,600 Speaker 1: for me on television now, because I've been doing it 572 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:42,320 Speaker 1: for the better far part of four decades. Is I 573 00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:47,120 Speaker 1: do things second nature that I don't think about. How 574 00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:50,200 Speaker 1: to turn into a camera, my cadence, the way I speak, 575 00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:52,600 Speaker 1: the way I look, how I can help someone i'm 576 00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:55,119 Speaker 1: interviewing look better, how I can position them to look 577 00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:58,560 Speaker 1: better on camera, the lighting of just everything that I 578 00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:01,359 Speaker 1: don't even think about anymore. I've just done it a 579 00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:03,879 Speaker 1: million times, just like Tom Brady has on the field. 580 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:06,679 Speaker 1: He was asked to do that on camera for the 581 00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:11,000 Speaker 1: first time yesterday. Everybody has a starting point, everybody has 582 00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:13,479 Speaker 1: a Day one. That was day one for Tom Brady. 583 00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:17,639 Speaker 1: He was nervous, he was clumsy, he fumbled the ball, 584 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:21,359 Speaker 1: he didn't have his timing down. He was apprehensive, he 585 00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:23,840 Speaker 1: was quiet, He never got excited when he needed to. 586 00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:28,080 Speaker 1: When he was on camera, he didn't quite know where 587 00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:30,640 Speaker 1: to look, and there was a nervous feel to it all. 588 00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:33,959 Speaker 1: So he will get there, and I'm not worried about that. 589 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:37,000 Speaker 1: He actually got better from the first half to the 590 00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:40,400 Speaker 1: second half. His partner is Kevin Burkhardt, who does play 591 00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:44,920 Speaker 1: by play. Kevin didn't exactly help them a lot yesterday, 592 00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:48,320 Speaker 1: and Kevin's a professional, but eventually they will find their rhythm, 593 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:50,959 Speaker 1: just like Tony Romo and Jim Nance did when they 594 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:54,399 Speaker 1: started together. Tony Romo was jumping all over Jim Nance 595 00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:57,280 Speaker 1: because Tony was excited and he was picking out the 596 00:27:57,320 --> 00:28:00,439 Speaker 1: plays before they ever happened. Turns out that was awesome, 597 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:02,879 Speaker 1: and Jim Nantz was such a pro he figured out 598 00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:06,240 Speaker 1: how to work around that. Tom Brady and his partner 599 00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:08,760 Speaker 1: have not figured out that dance yet and if I 600 00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:10,440 Speaker 1: was working with him, and I would love to work 601 00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:13,959 Speaker 1: with you, Tom, he just needs to learn where to 602 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:17,600 Speaker 1: assert himself, where to insert himself. What we want to 603 00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:19,760 Speaker 1: see from Tom Brady as you are the goat, what 604 00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:22,720 Speaker 1: are you seeing in this play? What are you feeling? 605 00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:25,840 Speaker 1: You've done this a million times? Give us that insight. 606 00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:29,000 Speaker 1: What he was doing yesterday was just reactionary. It's what 607 00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:31,960 Speaker 1: he's seen on TV a million times. It was something 608 00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:34,040 Speaker 1: I could do where I saw the play and I 609 00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:35,879 Speaker 1: would just tell you what just happened. There wasn't a 610 00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:38,760 Speaker 1: whole lot more of depth. I want to hear that 611 00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:40,800 Speaker 1: depth from you. Tom, I want to see that. When 612 00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:42,960 Speaker 1: do you get excited, when do you get nervous? What 613 00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:45,840 Speaker 1: would you be feeling? Tell me that before we see it. 614 00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:48,520 Speaker 1: You know, if six guys walk up to the line 615 00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:50,480 Speaker 1: of scrimmage and he's about to get blitz, tell me 616 00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:54,320 Speaker 1: that you know those things unlike anybody else, so he'll 617 00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:56,560 Speaker 1: find that rhythm. It wasn't there in day one. You know, 618 00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:59,520 Speaker 1: I'd give him a C plus B minus, but I 619 00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:02,400 Speaker 1: give him grace. None of us were great Day one. 620 00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:05,280 Speaker 1: Lauren was not great Day one of Entertainment Tonight, I 621 00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:08,320 Speaker 1: wasn't Day one of the Bachelor. Ryan Seacrest wasn't Day 622 00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:10,520 Speaker 1: one of American Idol. We all had to work at 623 00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:12,800 Speaker 1: our craft and find our rhythm. Is that fair? 624 00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:13,840 Speaker 4: Absolutely? 625 00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:16,280 Speaker 1: We won't talk about how Tom Brady looked. 626 00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:17,120 Speaker 4: Oh I just. 627 00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:19,080 Speaker 3: Thought his shirt was ill fitting. I thought Gazelle would 628 00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:33,320 Speaker 3: have helped him dress better. One sports story has reached 629 00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:36,720 Speaker 3: my ears shockingly. It's to do with Taylor and Travis. 630 00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:41,640 Speaker 3: But really this is more Taylor. So as you informed me, 631 00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:48,400 Speaker 3: NFL has started again, and I guess at first Taylor 632 00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:54,000 Speaker 3: wasn't in the same suite as Brittany Mahomes Patrick's wife. 633 00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:55,480 Speaker 1: Yes, at quarterback for the Kansas City. 634 00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:58,240 Speaker 3: Chiefs, So I guess usually they're in the same suite 635 00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:01,400 Speaker 3: and at the season or she wasn't in the same suite, 636 00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:06,040 Speaker 3: So people were critiquing her and inferring that she was 637 00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:09,400 Speaker 3: now no longer friends with Brittany because Brittany has been 638 00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:15,360 Speaker 3: seen liking some Trump content on Instagram and Taylor in 639 00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:18,400 Speaker 3: the past has critique Donald Trump and endorsed other candidates. 640 00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:21,320 Speaker 3: So first people are critiquing Taylor, like, well, why are 641 00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:24,040 Speaker 3: you separating yourself from her? It shouldn't be about politics. 642 00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:27,520 Speaker 3: Then they were seen together in the same suite at 643 00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:31,200 Speaker 3: the US Open, and then it became from other people, well, Taylor, know, 644 00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:32,880 Speaker 3: how dare you be friends with her when she likes 645 00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:38,160 Speaker 3: Trump's song? So you just can't win. But I would 646 00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:40,520 Speaker 3: like for all of us to win. And by that 647 00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:44,200 Speaker 3: I just mean we really gotta look. I know like you, 648 00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:46,840 Speaker 3: and I don't like to get deeply into politics because 649 00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:49,200 Speaker 3: I just think there are a lot of sources people 650 00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:51,160 Speaker 3: can go to. Although, by the way, I don't know, 651 00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:54,040 Speaker 3: let us know, would you like? The first presidential debate 652 00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:54,600 Speaker 3: is tomorrow night. 653 00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:55,280 Speaker 4: The election is coming. 654 00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:57,280 Speaker 1: Because first of all, we do get deep into politics, 655 00:30:57,320 --> 00:30:59,400 Speaker 1: Lauren and I talk about because it is a show, 656 00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:01,800 Speaker 1: and it's a lot about show business and a lot 657 00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:04,320 Speaker 1: of the things, a lot of the things from our 658 00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:06,680 Speaker 1: life apply to it. We find it very interesting to 659 00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:09,440 Speaker 1: debate and talk about this stuff ourselves. So yeah, if 660 00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:11,160 Speaker 1: you guys want us to get into politics, let us know, 661 00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:11,720 Speaker 1: we'll do it. 662 00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:14,400 Speaker 3: And also, you know there's an election coming up, So yes, 663 00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:16,080 Speaker 3: I think we're all thinking about the election. 664 00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:16,840 Speaker 4: We all should be. 665 00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:19,960 Speaker 3: It's a topic, and that's exactly my point. We should 666 00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:22,480 Speaker 3: all be able to talk about it. Now, I get it. 667 00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:24,840 Speaker 3: I agree with everyone like or I agree with a 668 00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:27,959 Speaker 3: lot of people in that I think celebrities have gotten 669 00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:29,200 Speaker 3: too much. 670 00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:32,440 Speaker 4: Here's who I'm endorsing, Here's who you should vote for. 671 00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:37,320 Speaker 3: Heres and I it's like people think about who you're 672 00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:40,760 Speaker 3: going to for your information versus your commentary versus your discussion. 673 00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:43,480 Speaker 3: But I also think we all have to be able 674 00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:49,240 Speaker 3: to discuss without hatred and isolation. Like, no, she shouldn't 675 00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:51,360 Speaker 3: have Like it would not have been a good thing 676 00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:55,400 Speaker 3: if because her friend feels politically different from her, they're 677 00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:56,240 Speaker 3: no longer friends. 678 00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:59,160 Speaker 4: That is the divisiveness that is the problem. 679 00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:01,560 Speaker 3: No matter how you feel we all got to be 680 00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:03,400 Speaker 3: able to hang out with each other and think and 681 00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:06,000 Speaker 3: feel differently than each other and still talk to each other. 682 00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:09,160 Speaker 3: And I think we've gotten to this place where it's like, well, no, 683 00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:12,360 Speaker 3: your views are morally wrong, so I have to no 684 00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:15,120 Speaker 3: longer be friends with you, and we really have to 685 00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:15,880 Speaker 3: pull back on that. 686 00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:18,920 Speaker 1: Bill Maher did a great take and a good rant 687 00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:23,480 Speaker 1: the other day about just this, because our FK dropped 688 00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:25,960 Speaker 1: out of the race for the most part and has 689 00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:29,080 Speaker 1: backed Trump. Whatever you think about that, totally up to you. 690 00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:33,000 Speaker 1: His rant was about Cheryl Hines, rfk's wife, who is 691 00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:35,280 Speaker 1: an actress. She's on Curby. Your enthusiasm was very good 692 00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:37,000 Speaker 1: friends when you're friendly with Cheryl, Yeah, and I know 693 00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:39,960 Speaker 1: Shore we played poker together several times. Wonderful and a 694 00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:44,960 Speaker 1: great actress. And the rant was about people coming after 695 00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:47,880 Speaker 1: Cheryl Hines, and one of them was Bradley Whitford, who 696 00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:51,800 Speaker 1: was very publicly just tore her apart on Twitter break 697 00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:55,760 Speaker 1: after from Yeah West Wing. Yeah, real brave Bradley to 698 00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:59,520 Speaker 1: come after her via Twitter. But despite that, just that 699 00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:02,600 Speaker 1: it was a great, great scenario of exactly what you're 700 00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:07,720 Speaker 1: talking about, people destroying Cheryl Hines. Because she stood kind 701 00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:10,320 Speaker 1: of quietly beside her husband as he ran for president 702 00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:13,280 Speaker 1: and has made his own political decisions, and it's like, 703 00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:16,240 Speaker 1: why are we destroying this woman? Why are you coming 704 00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:20,680 Speaker 1: after his wife? That's the level we've stooped to. And 705 00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:23,280 Speaker 1: even as Bill Maher said, and if Bill Maher is 706 00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:25,920 Speaker 1: the voice of reason, guys, this is this is where 707 00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:26,840 Speaker 1: we've gotten well. 708 00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:28,719 Speaker 3: And I think people get caught up in like who 709 00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:32,680 Speaker 3: started this vibe of rhetoric, Like they go back. 710 00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:36,200 Speaker 4: To, well, you said this, and it's like, ultimately, we just. 711 00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:38,200 Speaker 3: All have to we have to pull it back, but 712 00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:41,800 Speaker 3: we have to just be like I've seen a few. 713 00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:43,960 Speaker 4: I think his name is Tom Cotton. 714 00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:46,160 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, this is my political senator, Tom Cotton. 715 00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:49,880 Speaker 3: He's whatever your views are, he speaks in a calm 716 00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:56,600 Speaker 3: like just from what I've seen, fact informed way where 717 00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:58,520 Speaker 3: he just is like, listen, this is why I disagree 718 00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:00,840 Speaker 3: with you. I've seen a few other politicians who are 719 00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:04,719 Speaker 3: like that. Vivag is like that, like you, we just 720 00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:07,160 Speaker 3: need to get back to like the days when Obama 721 00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:10,520 Speaker 3: and Romney were debating and they shook hands beforehand and 722 00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:12,040 Speaker 3: then they went on with the debate and it came 723 00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:12,719 Speaker 3: from place of. 724 00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:14,400 Speaker 1: Respect and then shook hands after the debate. 725 00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:17,040 Speaker 4: Yes, yes, that's what I would like to see. But 726 00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:19,160 Speaker 4: I don't think we're going to get that in our debate. 727 00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:20,040 Speaker 4: But if our. 728 00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:21,680 Speaker 3: Leaders aren't going to do it, we as a people 729 00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:25,000 Speaker 3: are I know friends who will say, like, I won't 730 00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:26,800 Speaker 3: date someone based on their political party. 731 00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:29,000 Speaker 4: Look, I don't think you can. 732 00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:30,799 Speaker 3: I think it might be tough in a relationship to 733 00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:34,319 Speaker 3: feel extremely different from your partner. But you and your 734 00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:36,359 Speaker 3: partner can like feel a little bit differently on things. 735 00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:38,600 Speaker 3: I don't think you should say no, I just won't 736 00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:40,400 Speaker 3: it all date someone if they might be in a 737 00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:43,120 Speaker 3: different political affiliation than you, and and we can all 738 00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:44,640 Speaker 3: feel a little differently and talk about it. 739 00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:47,560 Speaker 1: And as you said that, the big debate is this week. 740 00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:50,040 Speaker 1: It's Tuesday, and I'll seed it. 741 00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:51,200 Speaker 4: I'm seated. 742 00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:52,920 Speaker 1: All of this may be for not? Is that what 743 00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:54,440 Speaker 1: the kids are saying, I'm seated for it? 744 00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:56,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought I thought you were asking me. Are 745 00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:59,120 Speaker 3: the kids saying all for not? Yes, the kids are 746 00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:00,640 Speaker 3: saying all for not. 747 00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:02,560 Speaker 1: Well, the kids are saying, what have you guys done 748 00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:03,640 Speaker 1: to our country? 749 00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:06,040 Speaker 4: Let's try to get a better okay. 750 00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:07,600 Speaker 1: And we have a big week this week, beyond the 751 00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:10,040 Speaker 1: politics of it all is we are headed up to 752 00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:12,360 Speaker 1: the Fort. We'll be in Fort Worth this weekend because 753 00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:16,279 Speaker 1: guess what, lze more football. It's parents weekend and we 754 00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:19,319 Speaker 1: will be at the TCU football game this weekend. Don't 755 00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:21,640 Speaker 1: worry there, We'll be your couterie. There will be drinks. 756 00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:25,759 Speaker 3: That's on the record. You're promising. Okay, I can't wait 757 00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:27,280 Speaker 3: for parents Home Goods weekend. 758 00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:31,400 Speaker 1: It's oh good. That is the Actually. 759 00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:32,960 Speaker 3: That was earlier this summer when we were shopping and 760 00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:35,399 Speaker 3: helping Josh with his apartment in Taylor with our new house. 761 00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:37,080 Speaker 3: That was my parents' weekend was when I got to 762 00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:38,439 Speaker 3: go to Home Goods with the kids. 763 00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:41,200 Speaker 1: So if you're up in the Fort and you see 764 00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:43,920 Speaker 1: LZ and I around this week, come say hello to us. 765 00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:47,000 Speaker 1: But have a great week and we love talking to you. 766 00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:48,880 Speaker 1: We will do it again next time because we have 767 00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:51,560 Speaker 1: a lot more to talk about. Thanks for listening. 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