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Speaker 1: This is Frosted Tips with Lance Bass, an iHeartRadio podcast. Hello,

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Speaker 1: my little Peanuts, it's me your host, Lance Bass. This

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Speaker 1: is Frosted Tips with Me, your host Lance Bass, and

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Speaker 1: Turkey Turchin, my lovely co host and also husband. Hello,

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Speaker 1: there are you today, Turkey fantastic. Yeah, you're having a

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Speaker 1: good day, a great day.

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Speaker 2: That's good.

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Speaker 1: It's a great day to have a great day. It

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Speaker 1: is that you know everyone listening right now. When you

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Speaker 1: wake up in the morning, you always tell yourself in

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Speaker 1: that mirror it is a great day to have.

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Speaker 3: A great day. And then you have a great day.

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Speaker 2: You have a great day.

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Speaker 1: You know there's going to be some little probably downs

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Speaker 1: during the day, but it's still gonna be a great

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Speaker 1: day at the end.

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Speaker 2: Of the day.

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Speaker 3: That's right.

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Speaker 1: You remember that, or at least you just tell yourself,

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Speaker 1: you just remember that. I feel like there was something

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Speaker 1: that I wanted to tell everyone. There was something I

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Speaker 1: was like, Ah, I want to talk about this.

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Speaker 3: You're cutting banks.

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Speaker 2: I'm getting bang.

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Speaker 3: Can you believe? Can you believe?

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Speaker 1: Forty four years and finally getting I had bangs as

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Speaker 1: a kid, Remember you did?

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Speaker 2: I had the total bowl cut.

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Speaker 1: You did, I had the quintessential seventies bowl cut, which

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Speaker 1: I had in the eighties, because you know, down where

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Speaker 1: I'm from, we're like ten days years.

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Speaker 3: A decade behind the times.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so pictures of me when I'm six years old

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Speaker 1: looks like it's nineteen seventy three.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, a little bit. Someone to o. TMZ just posted.

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Speaker 3: A picture he'd like smiling. By the way, if you.

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Speaker 1: See any of my family photos at Easter, you know

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Speaker 1: where we're like dressed up in our church attire, it

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Speaker 1: looks like a horror movie because it looks a little

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Speaker 1: too innocent.

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Speaker 4: Yes, your mom came straight from the set of Little

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Speaker 4: House in the Prairier.

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Speaker 1: Very Little House on the Prairie. But just you're like,

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Speaker 1: there's no way this family is not there's demon possessing

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Speaker 1: and going on there, especially that little kid with a

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Speaker 3: It's like children on the stairs that movie. Go into

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Speaker 3: your house.

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Speaker 2: Children of the Corn are that too?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Oh you and your so there were definitely.

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Speaker 1: Corn corn with our like head white hair. Oh yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: we yeah, it was scary.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you died. It's definitely probably course.

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Speaker 1: TMZ post one of those Easter pigs and it just

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Speaker 1: it just it's scary. To me, but it's really cute.

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Speaker 1: It is cute the most horrific way and the worst

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Speaker 1: way possible. Somehow it ends up being cute. Well, that's

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Speaker 1: not what I wanted to talk about, but you know,

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Speaker 1: that'll just have to do. It's a conversation because we

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Speaker 1: have to get to our guest today.

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Speaker 4: Actually be doing something. We can talk about. What we

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Speaker 4: can talk about. How we went to Taylor Swift concert.

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Speaker 4: Oh and the Kelly Clarkson concert.

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Speaker 1: My god, how well did I bury that?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, So a couple of weeks ago we had

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Speaker 1: an epic one we did Okay, So we start off

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Speaker 1: with the t Swift show on Friday Airs. It's so

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Speaker 1: Fie Stadium. We went with friends, We did the whole thing.

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Speaker 1: We made friendship bracelets, we made tons of friends.

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Speaker 3: I dressed that Era's outfit. Yeah, what er were you?

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Speaker 1: I was a love, Yes, you were lover and you

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Speaker 1: were speak now I was speaking now. But lavender, Hayes,

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Speaker 1: I mean I was full on lavender. And I think

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Speaker 1: if there was a competition for best stressed, I would

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Speaker 1: have gotten the boy best dressed.

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Speaker 3: Just wow, he's a confident man. No.

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Speaker 1: I was just told that several times. So I'm just

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Speaker 1: repeating what other people are saying. Many people are saying, well,

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Speaker 1: it's a good people picked that outfit up for you.

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Speaker 3: You did.

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Speaker 2: It was your jacket, and it's our jacket. Our jacket,

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Speaker 2: very good, That's what it was.

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Speaker 3: Just my styling.

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Speaker 1: You do style me, well, thank you, thank you. You

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Speaker 1: will too though you're both great stylists. See see he

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Speaker 1: to give it to himself, as if we're equal stylists.

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Speaker 4: I'm sorry, I'm never going to give that to you. Lance,

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Speaker 4: I'm never going to give that to you. You like

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Speaker 4: to think you're the stylist of the relationship, but you

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Speaker 4: are not.

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Speaker 1: I am a good you're not. You might be a

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Speaker 1: better one. No, you might be a better but I'm

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Speaker 1: a good style. I pick out a lot of that.

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Speaker 3: You're like, oh, I'm not.

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Speaker 1: I'm always very honest, like, nope, those shoes are not

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Speaker 1: going with that. You gotta do this this slash. I'm

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Speaker 1: very good at finalizing an outfit. Fine, I do fine touches, okay,

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Speaker 1: just to make it perfect pop.

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Speaker 2: So anyway, I digress. Taylor Swift was awesome.

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Speaker 3: Let's move on. Kelly Clark's in the thing I.

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Speaker 1: Love about Taylor's concert was that it is everyone there

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Speaker 1: is just so happy. I've never been to a concert

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Speaker 1: where everyone was just smiling and having the best time.

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Speaker 1: And I'm talking about to the concession stand people, to

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Speaker 2: Everyone was just so happy.

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Speaker 1: They're like welcome to so fire, you know, naming their

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Speaker 1: favorite T Swift song. All the security and concession stand

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Speaker 1: people were collecting bracelets too, So it was it was

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Speaker 1: just a fun moment, Like it really was. Everyone's in

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Speaker 1: a good mood. She put on a spectacular show. Oh

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Speaker 1: you you know, every song is a major hit. Girls

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Speaker 1: got some hits. She got some hits, She got some hits.

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Speaker 3: The world did.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So it was really fun.

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Speaker 1: And the next day go to Friends of bur Day

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Speaker 1: in Vegas.

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Speaker 3: We go to Helen Clark.

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Speaker 1: The next night, we were supposed to go to Katie

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Speaker 1: Perry that I to T Swift. So we if we

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Speaker 2: I don't think we could handle.

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Speaker 3: I would have just died.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So we missed Katie, but we did get to

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Speaker 2: Of the opposite of what t Swift is.

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Speaker 1: Yes, because hers is a intimate show and she just

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Speaker 3: And and she serves.

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Speaker 2: That girl can sing.

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Speaker 3: Oh god, I mean it's just so good.

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Speaker 1: Definitely, I would say top five vocalists, my top five.

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Speaker 2: Favorite she's always been, would be your top five.

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Speaker 1: See, I got Kelly in there there, I have already

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Speaker 1: on a Grande yeah, And I have celenon Celene, and

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Speaker 1: I have Jesse j.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Jesse j And I think Tory.

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Speaker 3: Kelly kellyble mentions right in there.

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Speaker 1: And I'm sure I'm missing some of course, obviously, like yeah,

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Speaker 1: but no, not even yeah, but those are my my

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Speaker 1: off I feel like there's someone missing though, Well I'm

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Speaker 1: not listening, so I'm sorry, person that's probably not listening

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Speaker 3: Well, you know what, they can be very like India.

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Speaker 2: Red love it.

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Speaker 1: She would be like top twenty. I don't know if

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Speaker 1: she's on my top five, but I do love that.

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Speaker 3: I'm letting India already now and have been taking.

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Speaker 1: All right, when we come back, we're gonna have Malcolm

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Speaker 1: David Kelly that's right, m K t O.

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Speaker 2: I love this man.

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Speaker 1: Yes, man, they got some they got some bops.

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Speaker 3: They have some classic songs and.

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Speaker 1: Their current what it's nice. You know, it's nice to

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Speaker 1: know some iconic band members, but it's it's fun to

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Speaker 3: Just have a song in the wrong. I actually heard

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Speaker 3: that on the radio recently.

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Speaker 2: Exactly.

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Speaker 1: All right, guys, So when we come back, we're gonna

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Speaker 1: have mister Malcolm Kelly. All right, welcome back to the show. Everyone,

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Speaker 1: all right, we have the man, the myth the legends here.

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Speaker 1: Malcolm David Kelly's an American rapper, singer, songwriter, and actor

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Speaker 1: from bell Flower, California, best known for portraying the character

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Speaker 1: Walt Lloyd on ABC series Lost and as one half

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Speaker 1: of the pop duo m K t O, which we love.

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Speaker 2: Welcome, Welcome to the show. Thank you, thank you, thank

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Speaker 2: you guys for having me. What's going on?

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's good. I'm so glad that we have

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Speaker 1: because we cover the gamut on the show with all

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Speaker 1: group members from every decade, but now we have someone

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Speaker 1: that's actually current.

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Speaker 2: So what's it like being relevant these days?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 1: Man, So you're you're so talented. But let's take it

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Speaker 1: back to the beginning. So, bell Flower, California. What was

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Speaker 1: it like growing up in that town? And did you

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Speaker 1: always know that you had talent?

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Speaker 2: Man?

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Speaker 5: You know, just just being in Beflo, California, right next

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Speaker 5: to Long Beach, just being the kids, you know, listening

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Speaker 5: to all type of music, you know, growing up on

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Speaker 5: snoop and definitely listening to your guys is you know,

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Speaker 5: and I mean no, I mean, but I'm just saying,

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Speaker 5: like that's that's just the influence, like the radio, like

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Speaker 5: you know, my mom would turn on kids or you

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Speaker 5: in Loan Beast, so that's just what I was around.

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Speaker 5: But I loved all music, you know what I'm saying. So,

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Speaker 5: I mean that was just a start to just opening

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Speaker 5: me up to everything. The music video was just like

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Speaker 5: it was crazy, you know what I'm saying. That's kind

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Speaker 5: of what dropped me into the you know, the acting

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Speaker 5: mean I think that just opened the doors up to

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Speaker 5: just like, Yo, this is this is dope. I want

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Speaker 5: to be a creative, I want to do these type

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Speaker 5: of things and how supportive. Was your family they were

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Speaker 5: they were they were supportive. You know, they're very supportive.

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Speaker 5: You know, just let me, you know, be a kid.

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Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying. I think that's very important,

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Speaker 5: not really shutting down. You know what I'm saying that

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Speaker 5: the kids just mine, you know, just letting them be them,

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Speaker 5: being themselves. So, you know, my family was very big

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Speaker 5: on that, you know, just let me be me. When

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Speaker 5: I wanted to do something, you know, they were they

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Speaker 5: were very advocate let me do it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, where your acting career definitely took you into music.

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Speaker 1: So when did you know that you were musically talented?

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Speaker 5: high school shows, and you know, with my friends, we

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Speaker 5: were always making music. We had the what was that

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Speaker 5: not logic it's a garage band on on the mac

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Speaker 5: when it first came out, or just recording, you know,

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Speaker 5: to cassette tapes on the radio, making our own little

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Speaker 1: You eventually met your friend Tony Aller after working together

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Speaker 5: Or even when we were we weren't done, you know,

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Speaker 1: Well that just is so an authentic way of starting group.

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Speaker 5: Put some stuff up on YouTube, and you know at

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Speaker 5: So but yeah, it just started. You know, we love

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Speaker 1: I mean, you came out swinging with your first hit,

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Speaker 5: It was also you know, the the producers we were

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Speaker 5: But you know, when they they got down to the business.

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Speaker 5: what I'm saying, Like we were really grinding it out.

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Speaker 5: I know, people think like we're coming from acting and

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Speaker 5: They did great, you know, getting into you know, top

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Speaker 5: Oh my god, it was like crazy, It was crazy. Well,

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they just don't go away.

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Speaker 3: It is turns in the energy dancing. It was great. Bro.

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Speaker 1: Do you remember the first time you heard your song

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Speaker 2: I think everyone is.

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Speaker 5: I think it might have been like nighttime, you know

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Speaker 5: You know that's that moment, you know, the first time

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Speaker 3: So yeah, I never forget that.

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00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:06,720
Speaker 5: He probably knows where we were, like where we were going,

444
00:18:06,760 --> 00:18:08,159
Speaker 5: but but yeah, I just knew we were in the

445
00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:09,080
Speaker 5: car going crazy.

446
00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:11,040
Speaker 3: That was That was dope. What about you. You remember the

447
00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:12,440
Speaker 3: first time we were in Germany.

448
00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:14,560
Speaker 1: We lived over there the first couple of years, and

449
00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:17,040
Speaker 1: but we were separated into two vans, so there was

450
00:18:17,080 --> 00:18:18,560
Speaker 1: three of us in one car and two and the other.

451
00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:20,879
Speaker 1: And I guess we had just left a radio station

452
00:18:21,119 --> 00:18:23,240
Speaker 1: and so we had the radio on. We're just hoping

453
00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:26,239
Speaker 1: that we would hear it, and it played, and oh

454
00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:28,520
Speaker 1: my gosh, we were but we were also children, right,

455
00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:32,520
Speaker 1: We were definitely just goof balls. And I remember there

456
00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:35,560
Speaker 1: every van was stuffed with stuffed animals because over in Europe,

457
00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:37,760
Speaker 1: if you go on stage, you're gonna leave with five

458
00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:40,720
Speaker 1: hundred stuff down. Okay, that was just that. So we're

459
00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:43,400
Speaker 1: all like making that stuffed animals dance and we're trying

460
00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:45,720
Speaker 1: to like, you know, communicate between the cars.

461
00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:47,520
Speaker 2: So yeah, so yeah, it was.

462
00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:49,199
Speaker 1: And it just sounds so much better on the.

463
00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:51,320
Speaker 2: Radio radio right a little bit.

464
00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:54,720
Speaker 1: It's just like it's just that you should always listen

465
00:18:54,800 --> 00:18:57,320
Speaker 1: to a song, Yeah, for sure. All right, reflecting on

466
00:18:57,359 --> 00:19:00,280
Speaker 1: the ten years the song, ten years later, what do

467
00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:02,040
Speaker 1: you think it was or why do you think it

468
00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:04,600
Speaker 1: was such a massive hit? Why does it resonate with

469
00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:05,280
Speaker 1: so many people?

470
00:19:05,359 --> 00:19:09,000
Speaker 3: Yeah? Ten years it doesn't even know. This song like

471
00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:09,720
Speaker 3: just came out.

472
00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:12,960
Speaker 1: It's true, but I'm telling you that's that COVID thing.

473
00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:17,159
Speaker 3: Time just warped, like we lost the good four years

474
00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:18,560
Speaker 3: of forward.

475
00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:20,639
Speaker 5: It trips me out when people are like, yeah, I

476
00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:22,240
Speaker 5: was listening to that was my jam in high school.

477
00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:26,040
Speaker 5: I'm like, yeah, okay, but now ten years man, not,

478
00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:31,160
Speaker 5: I don't know. It's beautiful, but I think just like

479
00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:36,080
Speaker 5: you know, when the record was written, and when you

480
00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:37,840
Speaker 5: write the record with different people, you just get to

481
00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:43,920
Speaker 5: tap into so many different people, you know, in different genres,

482
00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:46,920
Speaker 5: different age groups. So I think that was a key

483
00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:48,719
Speaker 5: thing for the song. Like so many people love it,

484
00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:50,960
Speaker 5: like you at the shows, you see the kids loving it,

485
00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:54,119
Speaker 5: the parents can sing along to it, the references Michael

486
00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:57,200
Speaker 5: Jackson's It's just so many, so many little cool things.

487
00:19:57,240 --> 00:19:58,200
Speaker 2: It's the upbeat song.

488
00:19:58,280 --> 00:20:02,040
Speaker 5: It feels good, yeah in summer.

489
00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:04,320
Speaker 1: So it's like the quintessential, like this is the song

490
00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:04,800
Speaker 1: of the summer.

491
00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:07,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, Like it's a little jam. It's a jam for sure.

492
00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:09,320
Speaker 5: So yeah, man, it's a beautiful thing.

493
00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:14,480
Speaker 1: So you guys, you go on tour, you release more music,

494
00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:17,600
Speaker 1: your debut album EP. But in twenty seventeen, you announced

495
00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:21,800
Speaker 1: a split which only lasted for a year. So go

496
00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:24,920
Speaker 1: through this? Why why you take your break?

497
00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:30,560
Speaker 3: You know we were going through I mean it was

498
00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:32,080
Speaker 3: just a hell of a roller coaster.

499
00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:37,080
Speaker 5: Of an experience, you know, just jumping into that world

500
00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:39,919
Speaker 5: and not really knowing what to expect. But you know

501
00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:42,800
Speaker 5: it it was a I don't know, man, I can't

502
00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:45,360
Speaker 5: really speak for him. You know, Tony was going through

503
00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:50,440
Speaker 5: some things as well, and yeah, so I really don't

504
00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:52,760
Speaker 5: know what was his initial like thing to.

505
00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:54,800
Speaker 2: Oh so it was his idea to take a break.

506
00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:56,399
Speaker 5: I mean, yeah, he wanted to take a break, you

507
00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:57,879
Speaker 5: know what I'm saying, or whatever the case may be.

508
00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:00,280
Speaker 2: And how don't feel about that? I mean you red

509
00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:02,240
Speaker 2: or you just supportive? It was what it was.

510
00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:06,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know I was kind of you know, yeah,

511
00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:07,639
Speaker 5: I was like, yeah, that's cool. I wanted to go

512
00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:10,560
Speaker 5: off and do some other you know, kind of get

513
00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:13,280
Speaker 5: back into the acting and do that thing. Like, uh,

514
00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:15,800
Speaker 5: I didn't mean to like go away so abruptly, but

515
00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:18,879
Speaker 5: you know kind of when I jumped into the music,

516
00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:23,760
Speaker 5: you know, I really didn't uh, you know, have the

517
00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:25,679
Speaker 5: my acting side there, like I should have, just to

518
00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:28,640
Speaker 5: make sure everything was you know, running you know, kind

519
00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:30,800
Speaker 5: of parallel to each other, but you know, just going

520
00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:33,720
Speaker 5: off and doing the music. You know, it was a

521
00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:36,359
Speaker 5: great thing though, so it kind of was you know,

522
00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:39,239
Speaker 5: taking his time. You know, we were torn just like

523
00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:42,760
Speaker 5: so much, so you know, just not being away like acting,

524
00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:44,480
Speaker 5: you get to go away for a little bit, come home,

525
00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:46,840
Speaker 5: you know, just toring you on the road.

526
00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:49,679
Speaker 1: It's like it's it's a baseball year around, you know,

527
00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:54,760
Speaker 1: so that it is very comparable base just always on

528
00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:57,280
Speaker 1: the road. We have that many shows in a week

529
00:21:57,400 --> 00:21:57,800
Speaker 1: for sure.

530
00:21:57,880 --> 00:21:58,240
Speaker 3: For sure.

531
00:21:58,320 --> 00:21:59,919
Speaker 5: Christmas, we've got to be in New York for the

532
00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:03,439
Speaker 5: Christmas Parade on Christmas Day while everybody's watching it.

533
00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:05,560
Speaker 2: Like you know, it's just you know, a different world

534
00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:06,200
Speaker 2: a little bit.

535
00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:08,160
Speaker 1: So and I know we I would love to talk

536
00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:10,480
Speaker 1: to about your acting stuff. But as everyone knows, we

537
00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:14,959
Speaker 1: are on strike now. Yeah, SAG after WGA, So everyone

538
00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:18,199
Speaker 1: police support all us, Yes, support because it is it

539
00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:20,560
Speaker 1: is uh, you know, it's just sad what they've done

540
00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:21,480
Speaker 1: to our community.

541
00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:22,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure.

542
00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:24,240
Speaker 1: And I don't know if I've said this on the

543
00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:26,520
Speaker 1: show before, but I'll say it again. Eighty seven percent

544
00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:31,120
Speaker 1: of the SAG actors can even qualify for insurance which

545
00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:33,680
Speaker 1: is only twenty six thousand dollars a year for sure,

546
00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:37,480
Speaker 1: So eighty seven percent of an industry is making under

547
00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:40,320
Speaker 1: twenty six it's making under twenty six thousand dollars. How

548
00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:44,960
Speaker 1: how is that even legal? Yeah, it's it's just crazy.

549
00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:46,520
Speaker 5: To t us down with, you know, what's going on

550
00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:49,080
Speaker 5: with the actors and everybody. So yeah, it needs to

551
00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:49,640
Speaker 5: be worked out.

552
00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:51,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's I mean, but you can say that with

553
00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:54,280
Speaker 1: every industry, the top one percent gets everything, it gets

554
00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:56,960
Speaker 1: even more greedy, and then they're going to try to

555
00:22:57,080 --> 00:22:59,720
Speaker 1: you know, take as much as as possible before the

556
00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:01,760
Speaker 1: rule changed, and they know the rules are about to change,

557
00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:04,040
Speaker 1: so they're just trying to cash out as quickly as possible.

558
00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:07,240
Speaker 1: But hopefully we can get this settled quickly because we

559
00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:25,720
Speaker 1: all got to get back to work, yes sir, all right,

560
00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:29,159
Speaker 1: so you get back in twenty eighteen. How did that

561
00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:30,400
Speaker 1: first conversation happen?

562
00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:33,600
Speaker 2: Who called it? I think he?

563
00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:37,359
Speaker 5: Uh, you know, it's a conversation between us and the producers.

564
00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:39,359
Speaker 5: You know, it's like a little bit of you know,

565
00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:43,040
Speaker 5: some some alcohol you know involved, so some stuff just

566
00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:45,880
Speaker 5: had to be worked out, you know, liquid courage. Yeah,

567
00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:47,760
Speaker 5: and just on my end, you know, just like you know,

568
00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:51,000
Speaker 5: not wanting to do like certain things or like literal events.

569
00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:53,160
Speaker 5: I'm like, bro, this is one of the easiest jobs

570
00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:55,840
Speaker 5: in the world, you know, like we can't be not

571
00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:57,880
Speaker 5: wanting to do certain things, you know what I'm saying.

572
00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:01,920
Speaker 5: But so yeah, I'm just like, yeah, you ready to go.

573
00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:04,159
Speaker 5: I mean it's easy, like you know, but I was

574
00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:06,600
Speaker 5: kind of getting back into the acting a little bit,

575
00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:11,040
Speaker 5: shooting some stuff. So I was like, but yeah, the

576
00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:13,159
Speaker 5: music is this is something I love. You know, I

577
00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:15,840
Speaker 5: was gonna do it regardless, like you know, solo, like

578
00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:17,960
Speaker 5: this is always something I've loved to do and always

579
00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:21,120
Speaker 5: dreamed about doing. But we build something, let's let's keep

580
00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:23,439
Speaker 5: it going, you know what I'm saying. Let's do what

581
00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:25,240
Speaker 5: we you know, got to do. The fans want it

582
00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:27,359
Speaker 5: like it's it's all right there, like it's easy, so

583
00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:28,720
Speaker 5: let's get it done.

584
00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:29,480
Speaker 3: You know.

585
00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:31,560
Speaker 5: I kind of was pushing the thing, like, you know,

586
00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:34,120
Speaker 5: we can both still let's do some solo stuff as well,

587
00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:35,800
Speaker 5: like you know, I know that's kind of what we

588
00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:37,680
Speaker 5: both dreamed, Like you know what I'm saying. We never

589
00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:40,119
Speaker 5: really envisioned of being a group, you know when we

590
00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:42,720
Speaker 5: were you know, not when we haven't met. So you know,

591
00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:45,680
Speaker 5: let's let's not let that vision go away, even though

592
00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:48,440
Speaker 5: we built a great thing, you know, so it's just

593
00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:50,040
Speaker 5: trying to figure things out. I was like, let's figure

594
00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:53,520
Speaker 5: it out, let's jump back into it. Yeah it was easy.

595
00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:54,640
Speaker 5: It wasn't really and.

596
00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:57,040
Speaker 1: You were making you were releasing music till twenty twenty.

597
00:24:57,119 --> 00:25:00,000
Speaker 1: Then COVID happens, assuming and you haven't done any music yet.

598
00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:02,840
Speaker 1: Are we going to have anything soon that we could

599
00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:03,199
Speaker 1: listen to?

600
00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:08,280
Speaker 5: No, sir, you know, just growing up and kind of

601
00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:10,440
Speaker 5: understanding the business. You know, we're kind of talking about

602
00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:13,159
Speaker 5: the acting and you know, uh, you know, just a

603
00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:15,680
Speaker 5: lot of stuff has to get changed as well. You know,

604
00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:18,920
Speaker 5: the music is a whole nother you know, beast itself,

605
00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:22,040
Speaker 5: you know, where things have to get figured out. So yeah,

606
00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:26,720
Speaker 5: just understanding that and you know, uh, just kind of

607
00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:30,160
Speaker 5: understanding the business a little more and fighting on that.

608
00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:31,560
Speaker 2: You know, on that end, it just.

609
00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:35,800
Speaker 5: It just wasn't you know, it wasn't you know, Yeah, yeah,

610
00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:37,560
Speaker 5: it wasn't worth it, bro for sure.

611
00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:38,040
Speaker 3: Well.

612
00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:40,640
Speaker 2: Uh, in the meantime, you haven't worked on your soulo music. Yeah,

613
00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:42,600
Speaker 2: you're just released an EP earlier this year.

614
00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:46,440
Speaker 1: So how does it feel to work on music that's

615
00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:47,639
Speaker 1: totally your own?

616
00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:49,200
Speaker 2: It's dope.

617
00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:52,800
Speaker 5: You know, Tony and I were doing that as well,

618
00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:54,919
Speaker 5: you know, just making music are our own and releasing it.

619
00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:56,959
Speaker 5: But you know, when you get with the label, you

620
00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:58,840
Speaker 5: know they want to be involved, they want to produce

621
00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:01,520
Speaker 5: them on it, right, they got to it. Yeah, so

622
00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:03,080
Speaker 5: you know that kind of takes the fun out of

623
00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:06,760
Speaker 5: it of creating a little bit. But you know, they

624
00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:08,480
Speaker 5: were letting us write a little bit here and there.

625
00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:11,080
Speaker 5: So but yeah, just doing it on my own is great.

626
00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:11,199
Speaker 1: Man.

627
00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:13,760
Speaker 5: I just love to create and you know, but even

628
00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:15,879
Speaker 5: in that, just learning how to collaborate with writers and

629
00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:17,400
Speaker 5: different people, with different producers.

630
00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:20,119
Speaker 2: So still doing that and it's been awesome.

631
00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:23,159
Speaker 1: Bro, Who is the who is the producer that you

632
00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:26,040
Speaker 1: want to work with? If you had just anyone? Oh man,

633
00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:33,600
Speaker 1: man Toddy Dolla sign. Leon Thomas is definitely coming up

634
00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:36,000
Speaker 1: right now. He was on a couple.

635
00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:38,920
Speaker 5: Uh he was an actor as well, and he's also

636
00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:43,080
Speaker 5: a musician, very very talented writing for everybody right now,

637
00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:49,040
Speaker 5: So I love to work with him. Who else uh

638
00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:50,880
Speaker 5: bands for real?

639
00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:56,080
Speaker 3: Uh man, It's just so many dope people. There's so

640
00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:59,360
Speaker 3: many minds crazy? Yeah, for sure.

641
00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:00,760
Speaker 2: What do you think of about writers now?

642
00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:04,920
Speaker 1: Because there's there's so many songs now that have fifty

643
00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:08,080
Speaker 1: people as credited, right right, Yeah, you know it's like

644
00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:11,000
Speaker 1: doctor Frankenstein is just making all these songs. What do

645
00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:15,080
Speaker 1: you think about these major collaps with fifty different writers?

646
00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:18,359
Speaker 5: I mean it can be a headache sometimes. I mean

647
00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:19,720
Speaker 5: I guess it feels like it's cheating.

648
00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:20,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, and on the splits.

649
00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:23,040
Speaker 5: But that's what I'm saying, like, yeah, you get that

650
00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:26,760
Speaker 5: many powerful writers in the room, like who are specialized

651
00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:27,880
Speaker 5: just the top line of the.

652
00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:29,800
Speaker 2: Bridge or you know, just the melody.

653
00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:31,800
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, you better get it better because no

654
00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:32,680
Speaker 3: one's taking nothing.

655
00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:36,280
Speaker 2: Yeah exactly exactly, but yeah, not that many people.

656
00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:38,960
Speaker 5: Maybe like yeah or yeah it's a good numb Max,

657
00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:42,760
Speaker 5: that's a good number. Yeah, yeah, don't go crazy for sure.

658
00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:45,159
Speaker 2: All right, Turkey here is gonna love this. But you

659
00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:46,399
Speaker 2: have worked with Celindion.

660
00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:49,600
Speaker 1: Your featured on the song Save Your Soul for a

661
00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:52,800
Speaker 1: twenty thirteen album Loved Me Back to Life. It was

662
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Speaker 1: on the vinyl version, which vinyl is huge. Again, how

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Speaker 1: did this happen? What was it like working with Selin.

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Speaker 5: That was our producers you know, like I said, they've

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Speaker 5: worked with a lot of the great people. Uh so

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Speaker 5: I think that they've worked with her, you know previously before.

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Speaker 2: And you know they were trying to figure out.

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Speaker 5: Some somebody to do the verse, and you know it

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Speaker 5: was in house, so you know, they blessed me and

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Speaker 5: let me do it. So I was I was excited.

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Speaker 5: You know, I didn't get to meet her while we

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Speaker 5: recorded the record, but but yeah, that was dope.

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Speaker 3: That's still cool to be a part of it.

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Speaker 1: All Right, what's next for you? We got more music,

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Speaker 1: more acting?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, more music, more acting? What's that?

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Speaker 3: You know everything's figured out on that end?

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Speaker 1: Uh, Like where do you see like the next ten years?

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Speaker 1: Where's your perfect world?

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Speaker 5: I've been writing a lot as well, so just throwing

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Speaker 5: on that hat, you know what I'm saying, Just more ownership.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, scripts for the for the TV and the movie.

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Speaker 5: You know, I definitely got some some ideas in that film,

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Speaker 5: in that in that realm.

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Speaker 2: So you're you're creative in the film television.

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Speaker 3: For sure, for sure. Yeah, that's always.

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Speaker 1: Been a dream project that you would want to bring up,

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Speaker 1: that you would like to put in the universe.

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Speaker 5: Oh man, Uh, you know, Key Key Palmer has something

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Speaker 5: that she, you know, what's got going on. You know,

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Speaker 5: I think, uh, you know, it's just a lot of

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Speaker 5: us from from that time, uh that.

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Speaker 2: We're trying to do something. So I think that's just

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Speaker 2: going to be big. So your friend.

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Speaker 3: We did a movie called Yeah You Did You Did

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Speaker 3: Want to?

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Speaker 5: We worked together a long time ago. But you know,

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Speaker 5: blessings to her and everything she's got going on. But yeah,

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Speaker 5: we're just going to do something. Shout out kofe uh.

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Speaker 5: But yeah, it's just something something we're gonna do something

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Speaker 5: from with the people from our era who kind of

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Speaker 5: kids love that. But yes, to stay tuned, stay tuned.

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Speaker 1: All right, Okay, so I need to frost a tip

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Speaker 1: from you. What tips do you have for people who

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Speaker 1: want to pivot in their careers from acting to being

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Speaker 1: a duo to solo. It seems like you've been able

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Speaker 1: to navigate it all so smoothly, So do you have

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Speaker 1: any tips.

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Speaker 2: Definitely take advantage.

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Speaker 5: Of of you know, your social media, I think is

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Speaker 5: just one of the big things, you know, just kind

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Speaker 5: of being around you know, just kind of right before

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Speaker 5: it wasn't here, then right when it was here, and

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Speaker 5: kind of just trying to understand that transition. And you know,

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Speaker 5: still learning every day from how the kids, you know,

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Speaker 5: you utilize TikTok and how they're doing it, and just

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Speaker 5: being real heavy with the content, you know. Yeah, I

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Speaker 5: think I think it's all on you.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 5: The more content you push out obviously quality, then you know,

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Speaker 5: you want to build your fan base and uh, you know,

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Speaker 5: and if you build a good core, you know, I

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Speaker 5: think with you know, how people are following you, you know,

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Speaker 5: they'll be able to follow what you do, you know.

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Speaker 5: And I think if they like it, they'll mess with it,

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Speaker 5: you know. And if they like you, you know, they'll support

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Speaker 5: what you do, you know. So and I just taking

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Speaker 5: advantages of that.

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Speaker 1: I've noticed that, Yeah, if you want to like get

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Speaker 1: in the mainstream, you have to go where the teenagers are. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and that is right now on TikTok. So I the

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Speaker 1: smartest thing I ever did was a couple of months ago.

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Speaker 1: I went to a twenty one year old I know

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Speaker 1: to help me run my social media. It's been a

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Speaker 1: game changer. She thinks of things that like I don't.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, wow, you're and she's so quick at everything.

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Speaker 1: We can film five TikTok videos in an hour and

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Speaker 1: she has them edited within the hour.

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Speaker 3: It is, it goes over.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's just connect she is, I mean for sure,

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Speaker 1: and she has no idea who in sync is. She

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Speaker 1: don't know who Whitney Houston is, right, Like, what the hell?

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Speaker 2: But you have to but.

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Speaker 1: You have to know that that generation thinks that way

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Speaker 1: if you're going to try to win them over, because

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Speaker 1: they really are the tastemakers. They're the ones spending the money.

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Speaker 2: And parents Yeah well yeah.

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Speaker 3: Bad parent did not know who Whitney Houston was. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you will never understand what it's like to be

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Speaker 1: a twenty two year old right now, Like you think

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Speaker 1: that that was just yesterday.

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Speaker 2: It feels like I was just twenty two. But Megan's

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Speaker 2: so much information.

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Speaker 3: It's just I mean, it's the whole different world.

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Speaker 1: It was like we were born in the fifties to her. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's crazy.

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Speaker 2: That is nuts.

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Speaker 1: That is the nineties from that was like our fifties. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's wold, that's just weird.

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Speaker 2: That is weird.

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Speaker 3: All right.

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Speaker 1: I got some fan questions from Jesse McFerrin, What do

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Speaker 1: you think about your song classic Blowing Up Again?

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Speaker 2: Thanks to TikTok man.

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Speaker 3: That's dope man, Like I said, shout out. You know.

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Speaker 5: The challenges. Yeah, no, just keep it going, keep it rocking.

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Speaker 5: You know, how can I forget or whatever? We'll turn

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Speaker 5: it out, turned it yeah.

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Speaker 1: Catherine DC twelve wants to know what are your thoughts

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Speaker 1: on duos categorized as boy bands. That's a good question because, yeah,

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Speaker 1: everyone has their own vision of a boy Band's usually

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Speaker 1: five guys the dance or you know whatever. But two

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Speaker 1: guys is that considered a boy band?

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Speaker 2: I always thought it was like a duo.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean yeah, because I'm I considered a boy

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Speaker 5: band more.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, like right, you can consider it to be multiple

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Speaker 4: guys like singing dance.

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Speaker 1: It's like it's despite the boy version of Spice girls. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: boy band, but it is definitely evolving.

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Speaker 3: People with boy band the band.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but one direction didn't dance where they have a

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Speaker 2: boy band.

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Speaker 4: You know, nobody they play instruments, the only saying, so

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Speaker 4: I would say they were a boy They kind of

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Speaker 4: hopped around.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but Hanson, so it all just kind of starts

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Speaker 1: flowing extra poppy.

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Speaker 4: Then you're a If you're like not, then you're yeah

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Speaker 4: not a boy Yeah, the cancer was straight.

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Speaker 2: Up, yeah, exactly. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I mean, who knows, it's all it's all evolving bands.

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Speaker 1: I mean when we were a group, there wasn't even

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Speaker 1: a term called boy were definitely a boy band, yeah,

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Speaker 1: but we didn't know what that was. We were like, no,

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Speaker 1: we're boised men. What are you talking about.

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Speaker 2: We're a We're RB vocal group. That's what we're like.

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Speaker 2: Oh no, we're a band.

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Speaker 3: All right.

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Speaker 1: Before we let you go, I have to know what

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Speaker 1: we are watching right now? What are we listening to?

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Speaker 3: Like?

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Speaker 1: What's songs do we need to know right now?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? I don't know.

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Speaker 2: They could be old classics to like what what gets

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Speaker 2: you in the mood?

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Speaker 3: I'm an R and B guy. I liked a lot

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Speaker 3: of R and B.

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Speaker 2: Like Brian McKnight.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, old school R and B for sure. Yeah, any

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Speaker 5: any type of R and B. Yeah, go with that.

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Speaker 5: I can't really name.

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Speaker 2: We'll skip the TV and film because.

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Speaker 1: Again, well we can't support you, sag you and your

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Speaker 1: members guys that.

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Speaker 2: For a second. Thank you guys so much.

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Speaker 1: It was so great to see you and catch up.

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Speaker 1: I I mean, I know so much about you now,

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Speaker 1: and I'm so happy that you were able to join us.

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Speaker 1: We're definitely going to try to get Tony on here

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Speaker 1: finish up the group. So what do we have to

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Speaker 1: ask him? Is there something that you're like, Oh, you

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Speaker 1: got to ask him this?

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Speaker 3: Uh, give us some inform.

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Speaker 2: Let's get him in trouble a little bit.

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Speaker 3: He's an open book, I mean something U Yeah, I

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Speaker 3: love it.

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Speaker 1: Well, Malcolm Kelly, thank you so much for being on

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Speaker 1: Frosted tips. How can everyone stay in touch with you

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Speaker 1: out there?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: At the Red Malcolm on all the socials, Instagram, TikTok, Twitter, threads,

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Speaker 5: whatever you use.

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Speaker 1: Oh, we're on threads still. I mean I forge Threads

835
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Speaker 1: was like twenty four hours for me because I got

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00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:23,959
Speaker 1: rid of I got rid of Twitter so long ago.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, you know what, it would be nice to

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Speaker 1: have something like that again. No, it lasted twenty four hours.

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Speaker 1: I can't just TikTok Instagram. It's all I got time

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Speaker 1: for ye at the real Milchael. All right, Malcolm, thank

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Speaker 1: you so much. We'll talk to you peace. All right, guys,

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00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:38,680
Speaker 1: be good to each other, don't drink a job out there,

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Speaker 1: take care of those animals and remember stay frosted. Hey,

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Speaker 1: thanks for listening, Follow us on Instagram at Frosted Tips

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