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Speaker 1: this this is my agent. I've been waiting for Damn

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Speaker 1: what twenty years now? Yeah, okay, twenty one years now. Damn.

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Speaker 2: I recruited you.

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Speaker 3: I recruited you out of Nebraska too. I think I think,

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Speaker 3: I don't look I think I talked to your dad back.

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Speaker 4: Then talk to my dad. Okay, okay, okay.

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Speaker 2: We got to talk to your dad back in the day.

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Speaker 2: And then I work.

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Speaker 3: I worked with Roosevelt and Eugene when I was at Relativity,

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Speaker 3: when you're with us for a while as well too.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Roosevelt and you, Eugene Park were both my agents

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Speaker 4: my art. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, rest in peace man.

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Speaker 5: That that was one of the h That was one

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Speaker 4: No, they was good people.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Eugene was quiet. He was a trade so I

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Speaker 3: wanted to work with him. But I've been in this

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Speaker 3: business is nineteen ninety five, and Bill and Marshaun since

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Speaker 3: two thousand and six. But uh, I love what you're about, man,

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Speaker 3: because what I've always preached to uh to Marshawn back

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Speaker 3: You've been one of the realists to do it for

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Speaker 4: It's a little bit of a long story, but my

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Speaker 4: He was down there and her boyfriend at the time

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Speaker 4: So I go visit her every summer, probably two three

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Speaker 4: should check out my little brother. I think he's good

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Speaker 4: or people keep telling me that he's got an opportunity

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Speaker 4: recruit him down here to Mississippi State. And so he

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Speaker 4: Obviously I heard of Nebraska and all the great great

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Speaker 3: So I know you took a visit to Cal. You

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Speaker 3: could have been Marshawn's teammate. How close was Cal to

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Speaker 4: I mean Cal, Honestly, I would have committed there if

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Speaker 4: But Nebraska had laid everything out clean and concise for me.

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Speaker 4: So that's why I chose the brasket. But you, I

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Speaker 4: I wasn't committed, but they were my last between It

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Speaker 4: but even the young kids like you've I've seen you

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Speaker 5: And you know what's crazy even like hearing that, is

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Speaker 4: I thought it was super dope for seeing it from Afar.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, going back, going back to college, or did you

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Speaker 4: Absolutely not. They did not want me to play Uh.

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Speaker 4: both of them looked at me absolutely crazy, like what

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Speaker 4: what is football?

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Speaker 1: Like?

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Speaker 4: We I grew up playing soccer since I was three,

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Speaker 4: So when they were like football, like, yeah, we don't

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Speaker 4: If I can help you, I'm happy to do that.

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Speaker 4: it's it's up and Alberta further towards MLK is more

437
00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:40,800
Speaker 4: known and then like fifteenth and whatnot. But not only

438
00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:42,480
Speaker 4: not a lot of people spend time, but there's a

439
00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:44,960
Speaker 4: great theater. They have events right across the street all

440
00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:48,080
Speaker 4: the time. So it's a nice, a nice little pocket

441
00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:50,960
Speaker 4: that we like to bring to life every now and then.

442
00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:53,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, that's that's a blessing.

443
00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:56,320
Speaker 5: And then you say it's maybe what three blocks away

444
00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:57,840
Speaker 5: from where you actually grew up.

445
00:21:58,240 --> 00:21:59,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, yep, on twenty seventh and Presco.

446
00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:05,800
Speaker 5: So that's what you call being invested in in yok community.

447
00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:07,840
Speaker 3: Man, Sorry, let me ask you a question. I've been

448
00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:10,240
Speaker 3: a huge fan of yours forever, man, But like it's funny.

449
00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:12,640
Speaker 3: When I signed more Sean back in six the first

450
00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:14,080
Speaker 3: thing he said to me was, listen, I want to

451
00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:16,919
Speaker 3: give back the community. I want a youth center, I

452
00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:20,280
Speaker 3: want a foundation. I want to learn about money. I

453
00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:22,600
Speaker 3: want to learn about investing. I want to learn about

454
00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:25,280
Speaker 3: putting the right people around me. You know, everybody's looked

455
00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:27,440
Speaker 3: at you as a guy that's been that way every

456
00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:28,520
Speaker 3: step of the ways as well.

457
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Speaker 2: Were you Were you that way in Nebraska as well?

458
00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:32,840
Speaker 2: Or what clicked with you?

459
00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:36,000
Speaker 3: Because you've had the same mindset with obviously everything you've

460
00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:38,720
Speaker 3: done in your career. It's been well document will get

461
00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:41,159
Speaker 3: into with Warren Buffett and other people. Were you that

462
00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:43,120
Speaker 3: way in Nebraska as well too? When did the light

463
00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:45,800
Speaker 3: bulb go off for you like it did for Moreshawn

464
00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:46,440
Speaker 3: when he came out.

465
00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:50,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, it honestly really started at Nebraska, and it wasn't

466
00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:55,440
Speaker 4: until my senior year. Obviously, I've always had a passion

467
00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:57,040
Speaker 4: and my goal was if I didn't make it to

468
00:22:57,080 --> 00:22:59,040
Speaker 4: the league, and my plan was never to go to

469
00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:02,359
Speaker 4: the league. Honestly, it wasn't. It was something that came

470
00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:05,440
Speaker 4: as an opportunity later on in my collegiate career that

471
00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:09,240
Speaker 4: I saw that, all right, I could go be successful

472
00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:12,359
Speaker 4: and playing the game of football. But my goal was

473
00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:14,679
Speaker 4: always to go to Nebraska, get my engineering degree and

474
00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:17,879
Speaker 4: go back home to build a second division to my

475
00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:21,840
Speaker 4: dad's business. My dad's a mechanical engineer, and so my

476
00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:24,720
Speaker 4: goal was to be bring the construction and the management

477
00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:27,480
Speaker 4: side of things alongside my dad. From that perspective, but

478
00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:32,000
Speaker 4: as I was getting into Nebraska and seeing all right, hey,

479
00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:35,240
Speaker 4: I could leave and go make a ton of money

480
00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:37,520
Speaker 4: playing in sports and still be able to come back

481
00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:40,640
Speaker 4: and add a division to my dad's business, which I

482
00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:43,800
Speaker 4: since then done a little different things, which we can

483
00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:45,960
Speaker 4: get into if we want to. But it was a

484
00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:49,879
Speaker 4: guy named Joe Moglia. So Joe Moglia was the chairman

485
00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:53,480
Speaker 4: of TDA Mayor Trade up in Omaha, and obviously he

486
00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:57,880
Speaker 4: is a well known institution from that standpoint financial institution.

487
00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:04,000
Speaker 4: He was our defense assistant coach, and I'd always ask

488
00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:06,920
Speaker 4: him like or always watch him and wonder, like every

489
00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:11,600
Speaker 4: Thursday he would leave in a black car, go to

490
00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:14,480
Speaker 4: the airport and he would then meet us whether they're

491
00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:17,200
Speaker 4: on the road or come back for the game at home.

492
00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:20,480
Speaker 4: He meet us at Saturday morning in our meetings, but

493
00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:22,159
Speaker 4: he'd never be there on Fridays. He was like, I

494
00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:23,600
Speaker 4: got to go to New York to go take care

495
00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:26,560
Speaker 4: of business. So we started hitting off talking more and

496
00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:29,199
Speaker 4: he at the end of that season took me up

497
00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:32,880
Speaker 4: to his office and said, you're about to come into

498
00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:35,840
Speaker 4: some real money, and I'd behoove me not to have

499
00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:38,680
Speaker 4: a sit down with you and show you a budget.

500
00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:40,800
Speaker 4: And I'm going to show you my personal budget and

501
00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:42,720
Speaker 4: what it looks like and how I operate and how

502
00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:45,240
Speaker 4: I look at things from a business perspective. So that's

503
00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:48,520
Speaker 4: where that was my first crash course, and he gave

504
00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:52,720
Speaker 4: me an assignment that now I have a little company

505
00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:55,480
Speaker 4: that I do as a boutique side of things to

506
00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:59,440
Speaker 4: support young athletes and coaches and things of that nature

507
00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:01,679
Speaker 4: for them to you understand what they got to do

508
00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:03,919
Speaker 4: to be able to build wealth for themselves as they

509
00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:05,920
Speaker 4: get into the sports world and into the business world.

510
00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:10,800
Speaker 4: So Joe Mowgley has has a lot of big imprint

511
00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:13,440
Speaker 4: on how I got into the business world and successful

512
00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:16,359
Speaker 4: in budgets and whatnot. And then obviously I was fortunate

513
00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:19,760
Speaker 4: enough to meet Warren Buffing and Gary Schiffman, Jay Brown,

514
00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:21,600
Speaker 4: a ton of great mentors.

515
00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:25,280
Speaker 1: Damn, I think I might slack in me.

516
00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:29,200
Speaker 2: No, but that's incredible and and that's the hard part

517
00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:29,399
Speaker 2: of me.

518
00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:31,480
Speaker 3: Look, I've been doing this now for thirty five years,

519
00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:34,200
Speaker 3: and blessed to how guys like Marshaun Lynch and Justin Tuck,

520
00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:37,159
Speaker 3: Cam Jordan, Michael Bennett, some great players. I get it,

521
00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:39,920
Speaker 3: but you know, the financial side of it now is tough.

522
00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:40,120
Speaker 4: Man.

523
00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:43,359
Speaker 3: Now you're talking about the nil side of these players

524
00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:46,360
Speaker 3: in high school get money in college. Yeah, and there's

525
00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:48,879
Speaker 3: no literacy classes. These colleges just try to do it,

526
00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:51,239
Speaker 3: but they don't do it the right way. And you

527
00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:53,760
Speaker 3: can see the whole thing just get sucked in now

528
00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:56,159
Speaker 3: with these young kids, and most of them don't have

529
00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:57,320
Speaker 3: any idea, you know.

530
00:25:57,640 --> 00:25:59,879
Speaker 2: You know, they will say, well, how's your financial advisor?

531
00:25:59,920 --> 00:25:59,960
Speaker 1: Do?

532
00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:02,680
Speaker 2: Was doing great? He was out my game, he bought

533
00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:04,520
Speaker 2: me lunch. I said, yeah great, what kind of returns?

534
00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:04,800
Speaker 1: Again?

535
00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:07,080
Speaker 2: What do you mean? I said, well, how's he doing

536
00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:07,960
Speaker 2: in the market? I don't know.

537
00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:12,840
Speaker 3: And so the problem just permeates, which is really really sad,

538
00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:15,800
Speaker 3: and it's hard to get these guys understand because they

539
00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:18,600
Speaker 3: all want to be like you two guys, and they

540
00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:20,840
Speaker 3: want to build a brand, they want to be entrepreneurs,

541
00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:23,639
Speaker 3: they want to be in business. But the root of

542
00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:27,480
Speaker 3: it is hard for these guys to get started early

543
00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:30,560
Speaker 3: and have the education which is lacking right now. And

544
00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:33,000
Speaker 3: it's really really hard for me as an agent and

545
00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:35,640
Speaker 3: the union and the league and the teams to get

546
00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:38,640
Speaker 3: through to these young kids now because it's getting worse

547
00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:40,679
Speaker 3: and worse and worse with the money coming in now

548
00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:42,840
Speaker 3: early and earlier. And I want to get your thoughts

549
00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:45,119
Speaker 3: on that, on what you've done to help out with

550
00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:47,919
Speaker 3: the young kids, especially now with NIL.

551
00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:52,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's been something interesting. So I had a partnership

552
00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:55,840
Speaker 4: with into it a couple of years ago. We started

553
00:26:56,200 --> 00:27:01,320
Speaker 4: me and my wife building these youth workshops, going into Compton,

554
00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:05,919
Speaker 4: Los Angeles County, Portland, where I'm obviously we started there

555
00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:08,680
Speaker 4: as a pilot as well as we were in Dallas

556
00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:12,120
Speaker 4: and did these workshops with these young kids in high

557
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:14,000
Speaker 4: school because seeing that it was going to happen at

558
00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:16,000
Speaker 4: a younger age and really a lot of these deals

559
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:19,800
Speaker 4: start happening in high school, junior senior years going into

560
00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:23,320
Speaker 4: going into college. And I want to continue to do

561
00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:26,399
Speaker 4: that work and find some of the good financial partners

562
00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:29,720
Speaker 4: that had some recent conversations with a very well known

563
00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:32,280
Speaker 4: organization that I'm excited to potentially work on and building

564
00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:36,360
Speaker 4: some things with that have a nice gold leaf, if

565
00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:39,679
Speaker 4: I may say. And then also I think it's just

566
00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:42,760
Speaker 4: having one on one conversations and being able to sit

567
00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:46,280
Speaker 4: down with There was actually a kid at cal family friend,

568
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:50,080
Speaker 4: young kid, he's about to be a senior, but just

569
00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:53,320
Speaker 4: being able to have those one on one conversations with them,

570
00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:56,520
Speaker 4: to sit down and say, ask whatever question you have

571
00:27:57,000 --> 00:28:00,400
Speaker 4: and then I can start to break down and help

572
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:02,240
Speaker 4: you look at the different pieces. And like one of

573
00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:05,679
Speaker 4: this kid, Jordan that I'm that I'm referring to, he

574
00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:09,960
Speaker 4: is like, how do I budget and how do I understand?

575
00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:11,960
Speaker 4: Like I get one check at the January first, I

576
00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:14,439
Speaker 4: get another check in April first. And I broke it

577
00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:16,600
Speaker 4: down to him in the simple conscience is, hey, I

578
00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:20,320
Speaker 4: just signed a contract and I got a signing bonus

579
00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:22,919
Speaker 4: that came in January. I got a roster bonus that

580
00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:25,240
Speaker 4: came in April, and now don't get all you Now

581
00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:28,000
Speaker 4: you get your your other checks as a season start.

582
00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:32,399
Speaker 4: So he understood that because his dad, Cliff, actually works

583
00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:34,720
Speaker 4: at Nike and has the ability to say, all right,

584
00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:38,160
Speaker 4: he's seen those contracts. He understands those different particular pieces,

585
00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:41,160
Speaker 4: and so having those conversations that's how he broke broke.

586
00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:43,680
Speaker 4: I broke it down to him. He understood it like that.

587
00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:46,640
Speaker 4: So those are the different things of having conversations with

588
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:49,320
Speaker 4: these kids and breaking it down to them so they

589
00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:51,920
Speaker 4: can understand it, and then you can start to put

590
00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:54,040
Speaker 4: these pieces to the puzzle together. Because then he started

591
00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:56,840
Speaker 4: talking about what credit card do I get? Everybody tells

592
00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:59,200
Speaker 4: me I should get an AMEX Gold or I should

593
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:01,080
Speaker 4: go get an MX plus. It's like, well, do you

594
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:03,520
Speaker 4: need the platinum if you're not traveling, you're going to

595
00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:06,040
Speaker 4: be at school all the time. But if the gold

596
00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:07,800
Speaker 4: makes sense because you're going to be spending a lot

597
00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:10,680
Speaker 4: of money on primarily food and takeout and stuff like that,

598
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:13,760
Speaker 4: and you'll build up points from that standpoint. So those

599
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:15,760
Speaker 4: are the things that you have these conversations with these

600
00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:19,040
Speaker 4: kids and you put yourself in their shoes to be

601
00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:20,959
Speaker 4: able to break it down from that standpoint to them.

602
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:24,480
Speaker 4: So I think it's ultimately continue to have open the

603
00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:27,280
Speaker 4: dialogue with them and being open books and just being

604
00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:30,720
Speaker 4: able to text, message, email, whatever it is to meet

605
00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:34,520
Speaker 4: them where they're at. Damn, that's big, But I want

606
00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:35,800
Speaker 4: to do more. I want to be able to put

607
00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:37,440
Speaker 4: it on a larger scale.

608
00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:40,600
Speaker 5: Well, look, man, I'll tell you this, I'm in the work,

609
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:46,360
Speaker 5: So doing some putting together. No, I'll we'll talk about

610
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:48,960
Speaker 5: that offline.

611
00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:50,640
Speaker 1: We'll talk about that offline.

612
00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:55,080
Speaker 5: But it's a great opportunity and it's exactly what you us.

613
00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:57,800
Speaker 1: It's exactly what you're talking about.

614
00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:00,680
Speaker 5: And it's crazy that you, you know, you bring up

615
00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:03,320
Speaker 5: Jordan because of should I was just with UH with

616
00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:06,880
Speaker 5: Cliff last night, uh before I had went over to

617
00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:09,960
Speaker 5: uh to the spot, but uh man, it changed it

618
00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:12,240
Speaker 5: up a little bit. Like I mean, you know, because

619
00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:15,320
Speaker 5: as I watch you watch UH play the game, I'm

620
00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:18,440
Speaker 5: I'm in my mind, I'm saying, yeah, that's it that

621
00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:21,360
Speaker 5: I love to have on my team, like because I

622
00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:25,400
Speaker 5: know that I know for a fact, if ship getting iffy,

623
00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:28,560
Speaker 5: like I know, I could look over to him and

624
00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:33,040
Speaker 5: and then uh, you know, some ship don't happen. But

625
00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:35,880
Speaker 5: I mean, as I see the game changing and I

626
00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:39,040
Speaker 5: see the game, to me, it's like it's getting softer.

627
00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:44,160
Speaker 5: But if it's somebody in that uh in them trenches

628
00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:47,000
Speaker 5: that you like, I mean, you know I wouldn't have

629
00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:53,000
Speaker 5: seen it. That's not uh, not for ness, but somebody

630
00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:56,160
Speaker 5: in there that you would say, like remind you of

631
00:30:56,240 --> 00:31:00,560
Speaker 5: you from a from a physical standpoint.

632
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:03,920
Speaker 4: That's that's a good that's a good one. I mean,

633
00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:07,120
Speaker 4: and I got to watch a lot of football because

634
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:09,880
Speaker 4: of Sky Sports and all the Temple events I go

635
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:14,360
Speaker 4: with them overseas and whatnot, and Super Bowl. If I

636
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:16,200
Speaker 4: were to say, right off the top of my head,

637
00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:19,080
Speaker 4: a couple of guys that I really like watching playing

638
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:25,360
Speaker 4: Jeffrey uh Simmons with the Titans, I like his game,

639
00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:30,640
Speaker 4: I would say Milton Williams. He's a quietly kept young

640
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:34,240
Speaker 4: kid out with the Patriots, watching him play at a

641
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:37,320
Speaker 4: high level and and and really getting kind of into

642
00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:39,760
Speaker 4: his own space because I think he was he was

643
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:43,680
Speaker 4: overshadowed by some guys being in Philly, and he finally

644
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:46,440
Speaker 4: has an opportunity to kind of showcase. Uh. I mean

645
00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:48,640
Speaker 4: Matt at bk I know he was hurt a lot

646
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:52,280
Speaker 4: this last this last year, but mattabk Is is super

647
00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:56,400
Speaker 4: dominant and when he's healthy, man, he's he's unstoppable. Uh.

648
00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:59,440
Speaker 4: In a lot of ways, I'm trying to think there's

649
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:02,720
Speaker 4: got to be an a couple other guys, But yeah,

650
00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:05,080
Speaker 4: I would say Matta became Jeffrey Simmons right now at

651
00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:05,520
Speaker 4: my top.

652
00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:07,360
Speaker 1: Well, I don't know what game.

653
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:10,880
Speaker 5: Maybe it was Dallas and the Eagles, and I mean,

654
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:14,040
Speaker 5: I don't I don't know how far it would have

655
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:17,479
Speaker 5: would have went. But that big ass boy that they

656
00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:22,680
Speaker 5: got over there, Jordan Davis, No is that or jal

657
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:23,160
Speaker 5: is it?

658
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:27,360
Speaker 1: Card j Yeah? Yeah, big motherfucker.

659
00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:31,200
Speaker 4: See Jalen. Jalen is very talented. I didn't get it.

660
00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:33,520
Speaker 4: I didn't get a chance to be around him because

661
00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:36,560
Speaker 4: I think he came in the year after I left Philly.

662
00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:43,120
Speaker 4: But having watched him, he is very unrefined. And when

663
00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:45,920
Speaker 4: I say that, he's very raw in his talent. So

664
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:49,720
Speaker 4: he's athletically gifted. He can move get sidelined the sideline,

665
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:54,120
Speaker 4: but I want to see more technic technicality with him. Uh.

666
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:56,680
Speaker 4: That would be my only critique. So that's why I

667
00:32:56,680 --> 00:33:01,120
Speaker 4: wouldn't necessarily say he's he's an elite guy just yet.

668
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:03,880
Speaker 4: Obviously he's elite because he's talented. He can make plays

669
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:05,480
Speaker 4: and do those different things and get off the ball.

670
00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:08,480
Speaker 4: But I want to see him get with a technician

671
00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:11,320
Speaker 4: like I would love to see him be in uh

672
00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:16,480
Speaker 4: San Francisco's defensive unit and let Chris Casser get his

673
00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:19,040
Speaker 4: hands on him like you get. Let Chris Casser in

674
00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:22,400
Speaker 4: that defensive line like he would he would hit a

675
00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:23,520
Speaker 4: whole another peak.

676
00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:26,440
Speaker 1: Get the work and the goddamn hands.

677
00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:30,400
Speaker 4: Huh yeah, you you snatch a cat and throw him.

678
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:33,240
Speaker 3: You missed like two games in your first twelve years.

679
00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:35,000
Speaker 3: You didn't miss time. You played every snap?

680
00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:35,880
Speaker 1: What what?

681
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:37,400
Speaker 2: What was the result of that? Was that?

682
00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:41,520
Speaker 3: Like Marshawn, like great jeans and blessed with the good

683
00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:42,479
Speaker 3: Lord of bod Was that?

684
00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:43,160
Speaker 2: Was that?

685
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:45,800
Speaker 3: The was that the diet, the stuff you did off

686
00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:46,840
Speaker 3: the field the offseason?

687
00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:48,800
Speaker 2: What did you quate to your durability?

688
00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:50,200
Speaker 1: Uh?

689
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:55,320
Speaker 4: My durability and in quote unquote iron man status, Uh,

690
00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:59,760
Speaker 4: honestly comes from three guys. Obviously I put in the

691
00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:03,200
Speaker 4: work and did everything from that perspective, but I had

692
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:11,680
Speaker 4: a team of three gentlemen, Keith, Doctor Jane and Charlie,

693
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:16,840
Speaker 4: and those three guys, between Performance Director PT and Natural

694
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:20,080
Speaker 4: Path have taken care of me from top to bottom.

695
00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:21,920
Speaker 4: Even to this day. I still work with them and

696
00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:26,080
Speaker 4: do all my body work stuff and everything. But like

697
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:30,160
Speaker 4: those plans and preparing for the long haul, grueling season,

698
00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:33,520
Speaker 4: they set me up perfectly, And then obviously I was

699
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:35,760
Speaker 4: I was spoiled. I guess to train on Nike's campus

700
00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:39,720
Speaker 4: every single off season and have full throttle to everything

701
00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:41,680
Speaker 4: that I needed out there and more.

702
00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:46,040
Speaker 5: I can see that guse I just left. I just

703
00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:50,400
Speaker 5: left the campus with yesterday and I am realized. I

704
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:53,040
Speaker 5: went into the weight room and I'm like, what the fuck?

705
00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:56,280
Speaker 5: Like this better than some weight rooms in the league

706
00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:59,200
Speaker 5: that I have been to. I mean a fool When

707
00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:03,160
Speaker 5: I say a fool gym almost like the Golden State

708
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:05,680
Speaker 5: Warriors gym that I went into when they was had

709
00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:09,080
Speaker 5: a facility at the at the hotel. I'm like, it's

710
00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:13,880
Speaker 5: it's literally like top of the art type facilities around

711
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:14,560
Speaker 5: that motherfucker.

712
00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:20,279
Speaker 4: Nah. And it's crazy because my guy Keith worked in

713
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:24,719
Speaker 4: innovation and was there and he like every single day

714
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:28,479
Speaker 4: I'd be in there in innovation, and over the last

715
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:31,479
Speaker 4: probably four or five years before I retired, we were

716
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:35,160
Speaker 4: in Lebron James facility because that became it went from

717
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:38,200
Speaker 4: me and him innovation to Lebron James. And I mean

718
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:41,280
Speaker 4: just the field and all the technology, all the different

719
00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:45,200
Speaker 4: modalities and tools that we had, the locker rooms, everything

720
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:46,000
Speaker 4: was top notch.

721
00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:48,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a blessing.

722
00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:54,680
Speaker 3: Man. What was your favorite stop along the way Detroit, Miami, Rams, Tampa, Philly.

723
00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:55,959
Speaker 2: I know they're all special grade.

724
00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:59,360
Speaker 3: What was your what was your favorite place you were at?

725
00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:04,000
Speaker 4: Man, Honestly, I did not want to leave Detroit. Man,

726
00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:07,040
Speaker 4: there was some special about Detroit that I never wanted

727
00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:10,600
Speaker 4: to leave that city in state. To say the least,

728
00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:14,160
Speaker 4: I had the keys to the city chief god be

729
00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:16,680
Speaker 4: at the time. Boys took care of me, who was

730
00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:20,560
Speaker 4: had a chief police for Detroit at the time. But man,

731
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:23,120
Speaker 4: it was a great city. I would say that was

732
00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:26,360
Speaker 4: probably one of my favorites. Tampa was great in a

733
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:29,920
Speaker 4: period of time for me, having obviously won a championship,

734
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:33,440
Speaker 4: but having my kids being in that city, LA was

735
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:35,920
Speaker 4: special because I was around my mentor, Jay Brown and

736
00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:38,680
Speaker 4: his family and just learning about so much more business

737
00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:40,840
Speaker 4: in that timeframe, and obviously my first time winning a

738
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:44,399
Speaker 4: championship or an NFC championship. We lost the Super Bowl

739
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:48,840
Speaker 4: that year unfortunately, but I mean Philly, you're talking about

740
00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:52,080
Speaker 4: some of the best fans in the league, Like I mean,

741
00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:54,920
Speaker 4: they embraced me in that city, and I wish we

742
00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:58,080
Speaker 4: could have brought a Super Bowl earlier to them. But

743
00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:00,680
Speaker 4: that was a great city. I enjoyed it Ton as well.

744
00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:04,280
Speaker 2: That's big Marshawn loves Detroit as well. At you Marshaan.

745
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:07,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, well shit, I love on them cities. They all

746
00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:10,160
Speaker 5: took care of you. When I can come in down,

747
00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:11,719
Speaker 5: they all take good care of me.

748
00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:14,600
Speaker 3: Hey, this is a question for both of you guys,

749
00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:17,760
Speaker 3: since you're both retired, and do you think these teams

750
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:21,200
Speaker 3: do enough to help these kids out now? The players,

751
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:24,680
Speaker 3: I mean Marshawn talked about the shield, talked about how

752
00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:28,000
Speaker 3: you know, you know, the NFL cares about one thing,

753
00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:30,360
Speaker 3: it's a shield. The teams kind of care about the

754
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:32,200
Speaker 3: players when you're there, but when you're done, you're.

755
00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:33,000
Speaker 2: Kind of out.

756
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:35,960
Speaker 3: You know, what are your thoughts nowadays on how these

757
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:38,520
Speaker 3: teams and you know what they really how they treat

758
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 3: these players and they care about them they not and

759
00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:43,520
Speaker 3: what things we can change and you guys can help

760
00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:47,000
Speaker 3: change too for these players as they're playing, because if

761
00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:49,839
Speaker 3: the business has become a business, but the mental health

762
00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:53,080
Speaker 3: side of things too has also become more prominent, and

763
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:55,640
Speaker 3: you see it's hard and harder for these young kids

764
00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:57,520
Speaker 3: they kind of sustain it. So what do you see

765
00:37:57,560 --> 00:38:03,120
Speaker 3: these teams could do better at as players these days?

766
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:06,240
Speaker 4: It's interesting, I'm happy to start. I think it's interesting

767
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:09,319
Speaker 4: that there's a lot of opportunities and a lot of

768
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:12,160
Speaker 4: things that are afforded to us. I think when you're

769
00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:15,720
Speaker 4: in the right organization. For example, like I didn't mention Miami,

770
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:18,880
Speaker 4: but Miami was a great organization Stephen Ross and what

771
00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:22,280
Speaker 4: he put together in all he I mean endless dollars

772
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:25,200
Speaker 4: of a facility and everything that you wanted to see.

773
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:29,239
Speaker 4: But I think ultimately it depends on the player and

774
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:33,320
Speaker 4: what they request from the team and how they approach

775
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:35,680
Speaker 4: that relationship at the end of the day. So it

776
00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:38,399
Speaker 4: is a give and take relationship. And I think for

777
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:40,800
Speaker 4: me as an individual, I always wanted to have everything

778
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:43,239
Speaker 4: in my own camp that I was in control of,

779
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:45,759
Speaker 4: and I have my particular team, but there was also

780
00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:49,239
Speaker 4: resources and things that I leverage from that standpoint of

781
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:51,719
Speaker 4: the team, which I think are very important. So I

782
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:57,400
Speaker 4: think it's finding mutual ground from that perspective. But always

783
00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:01,839
Speaker 4: the billionaires can always do more, and I would love

784
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:04,560
Speaker 4: to be a part of an organization, especially a team

785
00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:06,680
Speaker 4: that I know is for sale in Pacific Northwest that

786
00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:13,080
Speaker 4: I think, yeah, and we can really start to show

787
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:18,040
Speaker 4: what an imprint of a true like players that have

788
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:20,440
Speaker 4: been in the game, played at a high level and

789
00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:24,120
Speaker 4: understand top to bottom of what can be brought into

790
00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:29,720
Speaker 4: an organization so that they can be success because every

791
00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:31,680
Speaker 4: single year is going to be a gruel and a

792
00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:33,480
Speaker 4: grind to get to the next level. But you got

793
00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:35,799
Speaker 4: to have the right people to do that. Yeah, hell yeah,

794
00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:36,560
Speaker 4: I agree with that.

795
00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:38,920
Speaker 5: And man, just to echo something to that is like

796
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:42,200
Speaker 5: I just used when you say that, I think about,

797
00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:46,520
Speaker 5: like we used to have these nfl PA meetings and

798
00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:49,799
Speaker 5: what they would do is they would they would they

799
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:51,440
Speaker 5: would tell you like, oh, yeah, you got to come

800
00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:54,359
Speaker 5: to the nfl PA meeting in order to get your

801
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:55,080
Speaker 5: Maden check.

802
00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:58,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, And it was like everybody would come.

803
00:39:58,000 --> 00:39:59,960
Speaker 5: To the meeting like yeah, yeah, don't get my check,

804
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:02,640
Speaker 5: and then you know, they pass out the checks and shit,

805
00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:06,320
Speaker 5: and like once motherfuckers get their check, everybody was gone.

806
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:10,440
Speaker 5: But then when everybody cut, what they didn't know was

807
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:14,759
Speaker 5: they was talking about the deals that's coming up, the

808
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:18,600
Speaker 5: new CBA and what the guys want. So you're sitting

809
00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:21,680
Speaker 5: in that meeting and you look around and you realize

810
00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:27,359
Speaker 5: it's only maybe twelve people in there, and those are

811
00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:29,320
Speaker 5: the twelve individuals who's getting the information.

812
00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:30,799
Speaker 1: But yet you need the.

813
00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:35,800
Speaker 5: Totality of the team in order to make this decision.

814
00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:40,680
Speaker 5: So when it comes time, you got about maybe seven

815
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:43,560
Speaker 5: or eight individuals who actually understand what it is that

816
00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:45,800
Speaker 5: you're voting on and what it is that you're asking

817
00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:50,439
Speaker 5: for one thing that I probably would would say that

818
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:53,880
Speaker 5: we need to do as a whole. It stopped putting.

819
00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:59,919
Speaker 5: It stopped putting on the teams to tell to tell

820
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:03,640
Speaker 5: the players with what they need. But the players, the

821
00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:06,279
Speaker 5: players got to tell the team what it.

822
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:07,160
Speaker 1: Is that they need.

823
00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:10,359
Speaker 5: If you know, and I mean you know it's gonna

824
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:12,560
Speaker 5: take you to put your ego to the side, but

825
00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:15,120
Speaker 5: for you to go to the team tell them, hey, look,

826
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:21,160
Speaker 5: I'm struggling with finances. I need you to help me

827
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:25,040
Speaker 5: get with somebody that's gonna be able to under explain

828
00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:26,480
Speaker 5: this to me in a way that I'm gonna be

829
00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:29,719
Speaker 5: able to understand. And then when you do some shit

830
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:33,280
Speaker 5: like that, they can't deny you that they won't deny

831
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:37,799
Speaker 5: you that somebody somewhere is going to find somebody to

832
00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:40,880
Speaker 5: find I mean somebody to find to talk to you

833
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:43,160
Speaker 5: on that level to bring you to where it is

834
00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:45,879
Speaker 5: that you need to be. And I mean, I think

835
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:48,359
Speaker 5: that you can do that with anything. When you when

836
00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:52,840
Speaker 5: you're talking about in terms of the mental health situation,

837
00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:56,320
Speaker 5: Like the last thing that the NFL want to see

838
00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:59,480
Speaker 5: is one of the players on the news talking about

839
00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:04,000
Speaker 5: mental health issue and you know, CTE or you know,

840
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:07,520
Speaker 5: whatever the case may be, because of the negative stigma

841
00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:10,080
Speaker 5: that it brings around the league, like they don't they

842
00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:12,440
Speaker 5: would rather not see that. And I mean, it's a

843
00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:15,279
Speaker 5: lot cheaper to deal with finding somebody to help you

844
00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:18,520
Speaker 5: with this situation then deal with all the backlash from it.

845
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:20,680
Speaker 5: So I mean it's got to be I think it's

846
00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:24,120
Speaker 5: gonna have to come within the locker room of individuals

847
00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:28,200
Speaker 5: really coming together saying, hey, this is what we need now.

848
00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:32,879
Speaker 5: At this point, you have so many examples of you know,

849
00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:36,560
Speaker 5: players going to go and commit suicide, players going and

850
00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:41,120
Speaker 5: getting divorces, players fucking getting hurt and having know nothing

851
00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:43,799
Speaker 5: to fall back on, Like you got all these examples

852
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:46,920
Speaker 5: of what it looks like on the other end, but

853
00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:50,399
Speaker 5: as well as you have examples of individuals who did

854
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:53,759
Speaker 5: it right, like Sue for instance, and those people are

855
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:57,319
Speaker 5: out there to be able to have conversations with in

856
00:42:57,440 --> 00:43:00,400
Speaker 5: order to bring in those resources to help the mother fuckers.

857
00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:02,400
Speaker 5: So I mean, as much as I would like to

858
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:04,239
Speaker 5: go and put it on all the NFL this, the

859
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:07,040
Speaker 5: NFL that, the NFL, this, NFL that. But then at

860
00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:08,680
Speaker 5: the end of the day, I heard what the NFL

861
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:11,200
Speaker 5: said about me or said to me, and what I

862
00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:15,160
Speaker 5: shouldn't do in order to be successful. And what I

863
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:18,000
Speaker 5: did was I used all the resources that they actually

864
00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:20,480
Speaker 5: did have, and then I used it for everything that

865
00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:22,160
Speaker 5: they told me not to use it for it and

866
00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:24,960
Speaker 5: I went and helped my family with all of their

867
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:28,719
Speaker 5: fucking resources. So, I mean, it can be done. It's

868
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:31,479
Speaker 5: just you got to actually want to do that shit.

869
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:34,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's got to be a give and take at

870
00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:35,040
Speaker 4: the end of the day.

871
00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:38,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, hopefully guys are both involved in the Seattle franchise.

872
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:41,200
Speaker 3: I think the biggest I think the biggest miss right now,

873
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:45,080
Speaker 3: you know, with private agent, So you better make some

874
00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:47,640
Speaker 3: ship shape. I'm working on it and I'm working on

875
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:49,759
Speaker 3: You're part of under the cracking, You're part under the root.

876
00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:52,680
Speaker 5: Yeah. See you're talking about the cracking. That's different the

877
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:55,160
Speaker 5: crack and fuck with me, you feel me. We need

878
00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:57,560
Speaker 5: to get the Seahawks situation.

879
00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:02,440
Speaker 3: Yes, but have you said that, and Sue you appreciate this, Like, look,

880
00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:05,120
Speaker 3: I think these teams now with all this private equity

881
00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:06,759
Speaker 3: coming in and these ownership groups. I tell them, I

882
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:09,120
Speaker 3: so listen, man, you guys got now some of the

883
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:12,280
Speaker 3: brightest minds in the world as owners and minority owners.

884
00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:16,319
Speaker 3: Use that to help mentor the kids, help, you know,

885
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:19,520
Speaker 3: help do seminars or retreats and whatnot.

886
00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:21,200
Speaker 2: Nobody's really taking advantage of that.

887
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:23,360
Speaker 3: I said, listen, if a team really does that the

888
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:25,719
Speaker 3: right way, you're gonna get free agency that want to

889
00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:28,040
Speaker 3: go there because if they know now they got a

890
00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:32,200
Speaker 3: pocketive owners that are you know, private equity people, VCT people,

891
00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:36,160
Speaker 3: hospitality people, whatever it may be, and they're going to

892
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:39,120
Speaker 3: help mentor them and help guide them. That's a massive

893
00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:43,120
Speaker 3: playing for agency. Imagine an ownership group taking over players

894
00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:45,439
Speaker 3: the Bahamas and doing a four day retreat and talking

895
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:48,360
Speaker 3: about these things. Nobody's doing that. And every time I

896
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:50,319
Speaker 3: tell ownership that, so it's a great idea. That'd be

897
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:52,960
Speaker 3: great to say, Yeah, you don't understand, that's a game changer.

898
00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:55,920
Speaker 3: If you guys start doing that stuff and teaching these kids,

899
00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:57,919
Speaker 3: it's a massive, massive win.

900
00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:00,120
Speaker 2: I think we'll see more of it, but it's I've

901
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:00,719
Speaker 2: seen right now.

902
00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:05,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's something that it's a fine line,

903
00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:07,080
Speaker 4: and I think they should be able to do that.

904
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:10,520
Speaker 4: And I think to start it was Kenny cutting Edge

905
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:14,080
Speaker 4: was with Miami Dolphin Stephen Ross. We had these dolphin

906
00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:16,680
Speaker 4: camps that we did. There's a Caleb Thornhill was one

907
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:20,759
Speaker 4: of the guys that started it and started bringing up

908
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:23,120
Speaker 4: these internships be able to say I did a crash

909
00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:27,000
Speaker 4: course and did an externship at related group and learned

910
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:29,520
Speaker 4: about real estate, learned about affordable housing, all these different

911
00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:34,080
Speaker 4: particular pieces. But it's also important for as Marshawn said,

912
00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:36,399
Speaker 4: you've got to have guys that are wanting to learn

913
00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:39,960
Speaker 4: that stuff and say, hey, let me go seek why

914
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:42,960
Speaker 4: that they're able to have been successful and had this

915
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:48,160
Speaker 4: the liquidity to go and buy an NFL team for

916
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:51,799
Speaker 4: six seven, eight, nine, ten billion dollars at the end

917
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:55,040
Speaker 4: of the day and have thirty percent of that versus

918
00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:57,240
Speaker 4: or a private equity from they can do ten percent

919
00:45:57,280 --> 00:46:00,359
Speaker 4: and things of that nature. So ultimately, yes, I think,

920
00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:02,680
Speaker 4: and I think there has to also be rules from

921
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:04,759
Speaker 4: from the NFL perspective that they don't look at it

922
00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:07,200
Speaker 4: as circuinvent in the cap because I think it's just

923
00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:09,120
Speaker 4: good knowledge for those guys to be able to have

924
00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:12,439
Speaker 4: that opportunity versus them seeing saying, oh, now we're gonna

925
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:15,080
Speaker 4: block this because they're gonna circum back the cat and

926
00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:17,480
Speaker 4: do the different things. I mean, that's just my personal

927
00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:19,719
Speaker 4: opinion being Devil's advocate, but I would love to be

928
00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:21,640
Speaker 4: able to put on those types of events and I think.

929
00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:23,560
Speaker 4: I mean, I was just at a private dinner in

930
00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:27,680
Speaker 4: New York being able to watch and see a young

931
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:30,440
Speaker 4: guy who went to CAL. Actually and this is somebody

932
00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:33,560
Speaker 4: you need to meet, Marshawn. This dude started an app

933
00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:38,040
Speaker 4: called app Lovin and they are through the roof one

934
00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:43,000
Speaker 4: of the craziest ad marketing firms out there. And just

935
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:45,080
Speaker 4: to sit there and listen to talk about and hear

936
00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:49,560
Speaker 4: his story, like Adam was very very special and being

937
00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:51,879
Speaker 4: able to create that company and he went to CAL,

938
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:54,319
Speaker 4: so that should be relationships and he could be a

939
00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:58,239
Speaker 4: potential owner in the team at the same time. For

940
00:46:58,360 --> 00:47:01,200
Speaker 4: how successful I think is I think I when I

941
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:03,080
Speaker 4: looked up their market cap, there like one hundred and

942
00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:08,280
Speaker 4: fifty fifty five billion dollar market cap, so like it's crazy.

943
00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:10,960
Speaker 1: One hundred and fifty five.

944
00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:14,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, when I looked at I looked at it because

945
00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:16,399
Speaker 4: I left the dinner I had to go to another one.

946
00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:18,600
Speaker 4: I looked it up and I think they're at one

947
00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:21,319
Speaker 4: hundred and fifty five market one hundred and fifty five

948
00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:25,400
Speaker 4: billion dollar market cap, and I think they're eba on

949
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:29,319
Speaker 4: on on. This past year was like at eighty four

950
00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:31,680
Speaker 4: percent of that.

951
00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:32,280
Speaker 1: That's crazy.

952
00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:34,640
Speaker 5: I just got a message, Oh my god, I missed

953
00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:37,880
Speaker 5: the boat on app love and stock went crazy. I

954
00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:41,959
Speaker 5: just received that at one fifty three. Somebody just sent

955
00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:42,279
Speaker 5: me that.

956
00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:47,319
Speaker 4: As you said, right now, yeah, yo, Now, and he's

957
00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:50,200
Speaker 4: he's a super smart dude. I'm trying to reconnect with him.

958
00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:54,080
Speaker 4: A friend of mine, Ray is their close buddy. So

959
00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:56,960
Speaker 4: but yeah, I'm I'm excited to just learn from him

960
00:47:57,000 --> 00:47:59,840
Speaker 4: and understand how he thinks and looks at different companies.

961
00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:03,840
Speaker 4: And he said this is his third company he founded.

962
00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:08,680
Speaker 1: Okay, and you said he went to Can too, Yeah,

963
00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:11,080
Speaker 1: he went to all right.

964
00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:13,640
Speaker 2: Hey, so take me through your team right now.

965
00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:15,759
Speaker 3: You've got so many things going on in regards to

966
00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:18,360
Speaker 3: your life with everything you're doing, You're kicking ass and everything.

967
00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:19,920
Speaker 2: Who's your who's your team?

968
00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:22,000
Speaker 3: Like your family office that you deal with that you're

969
00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:24,800
Speaker 3: involved with to make decisions? Is it the same people

970
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:27,399
Speaker 3: you kind of the people you mentioned before, who's your

971
00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:30,239
Speaker 3: who's your team that you're really talk to about these

972
00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:32,560
Speaker 3: things you're doing and all the investments and and everything

973
00:48:32,560 --> 00:48:33,600
Speaker 3: you're doing in your life right now.

974
00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:37,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, I've got a handful of people that I work with.

975
00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:41,640
Speaker 4: I have an EA that is keeps my keeps me

976
00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:45,920
Speaker 4: straight and narrow on time for everything, and just I

977
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:48,759
Speaker 4: have a really small group. Obviously I lean on my

978
00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:51,120
Speaker 4: wife and you and my sister h for a lot

979
00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:53,680
Speaker 4: of different things as well. But it just really depends

980
00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:55,560
Speaker 4: on where I'm going to go at and looking at

981
00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:58,440
Speaker 4: a deal. So I was able to get into, uh

982
00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:01,640
Speaker 4: some specialty companies that you guys would know of it,

983
00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:05,760
Speaker 4: but I can't mention their names. And there's a group

984
00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:09,239
Speaker 4: in in in Los Angeles that I work with on

985
00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:12,080
Speaker 4: some private equity stuff. I mean, I work with Indrees

986
00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:15,320
Speaker 4: and Harwest General Atlantic. From that perspective, Chris Lines is

987
00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:17,760
Speaker 4: a close friend that I do a lot of stuff,

988
00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:21,560
Speaker 4: and he participates as a contributor on my podcast. I

989
00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:23,600
Speaker 4: have a strong group over at the New York Times

990
00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:25,360
Speaker 4: that I do my podcast with as well as the

991
00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:29,040
Speaker 4: best he is, and so it really just depends on

992
00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:31,280
Speaker 4: where I'm diving in and where I'm looking at focusing

993
00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:35,120
Speaker 4: on and I will pull on those team members to

994
00:49:35,120 --> 00:49:37,840
Speaker 4: be able to support me. But my family office, for

995
00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:42,160
Speaker 4: lack of better words, is pretty tiny. Uh, I haven't

996
00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:43,640
Speaker 4: got the big boy dollars just yet.

997
00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:47,279
Speaker 1: I doubt that now.

998
00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:50,319
Speaker 4: Honestly, what I what I what I would love to

999
00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:54,800
Speaker 4: see from a family office perspective is a multi family office.

1000
00:49:54,840 --> 00:50:00,279
Speaker 4: So Marshawn's family office, my family office, cliff A Rual's

1001
00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:04,200
Speaker 4: family office, Michael Bennetton family office, like all them dudes

1002
00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:08,719
Speaker 4: coming together and pooling their resources, and that that's a

1003
00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:10,799
Speaker 4: true type of family office I think I would love

1004
00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:13,080
Speaker 4: to eventually have at some point in time in the future.

1005
00:50:13,719 --> 00:50:17,000
Speaker 5: Well, the thing is, I know that we uh, I

1006
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:22,000
Speaker 5: mean right now it's just the the the old Seahawk guys,

1007
00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:24,360
Speaker 5: but we gotta we gotta kind of like a little

1008
00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:27,200
Speaker 5: thread going on, and I can see that coming to

1009
00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:31,280
Speaker 5: fluition pretty soon. So I mean, now that I know that, uh,

1010
00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:33,520
Speaker 5: you know that's something that you're interested in.

1011
00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:34,839
Speaker 1: I mean I don't.

1012
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:37,719
Speaker 5: I don't think it's that hard to go and get

1013
00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:41,400
Speaker 5: shipped done when when you want it. And and the

1014
00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:45,399
Speaker 5: guys that you just named right there, like them them them,

1015
00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:48,040
Speaker 5: My guys, those are my voice of reasons when anything

1016
00:50:48,200 --> 00:50:51,759
Speaker 5: is is popping up. Those are you know, individuals who

1017
00:50:52,080 --> 00:50:56,160
Speaker 5: were going you know, bounce ideas off of it. And

1018
00:50:56,239 --> 00:50:58,319
Speaker 5: the thing is, we've been doing this ship since we've

1019
00:50:58,360 --> 00:51:01,120
Speaker 5: been playing, before we even knew that we had the

1020
00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:03,600
Speaker 5: power in the you know, I mean the brainwidth to

1021
00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:08,839
Speaker 5: even to have these conversations. So I mean, now that

1022
00:51:09,040 --> 00:51:12,319
Speaker 5: you know we can find more like minded individuals that's

1023
00:51:12,320 --> 00:51:15,399
Speaker 5: out there, this is for sure something that we need

1024
00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:16,680
Speaker 5: to go ahead and put together.

1025
00:51:17,360 --> 00:51:19,720
Speaker 4: Yeah. No, I mean and even like seeing I'm looking

1026
00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:25,120
Speaker 4: at fits Larry Fitz and Kelvin Beacham, looking at them

1027
00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:28,239
Speaker 4: raising a fund together as my understanding of what they're doing,

1028
00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:31,240
Speaker 4: like being able to support guys like that, even though

1029
00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:34,400
Speaker 4: we may not have big dollars in Ano they're probably

1030
00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:37,359
Speaker 4: getting twenty and thirty forty million dollar checks, but it's

1031
00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:41,040
Speaker 4: still meaningful that we could support them in their endeavors.

1032
00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:45,360
Speaker 4: And that's where that compounding effect comes together as a whole.

1033
00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:48,400
Speaker 4: And you see them, Hey, you guys are experts in

1034
00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:50,640
Speaker 4: this space, so we're gonna let you lead that space

1035
00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:53,759
Speaker 4: for our overall group. Vice versus somebody in real estate

1036
00:51:53,840 --> 00:51:55,719
Speaker 4: like I love real estate. I love putting real estate

1037
00:51:55,719 --> 00:51:59,319
Speaker 4: deals together. I'm just finished one hundred and twenty four

1038
00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:04,160
Speaker 4: apartments and Portland just getting ready next week to close

1039
00:52:04,200 --> 00:52:06,960
Speaker 4: on a ten thousand square foot a lot and build

1040
00:52:07,080 --> 00:52:11,400
Speaker 4: probably thirty eight forty units. From that perspective, like, so,

1041
00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:13,920
Speaker 4: I love real estate and being able to do that.

1042
00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:16,359
Speaker 4: I know Cliff, for example, is really good at real estate,

1043
00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:18,799
Speaker 4: especially in Seattle on some of the things that he's

1044
00:52:18,840 --> 00:52:21,600
Speaker 4: doing in and around there. And we've had multiple conversations,

1045
00:52:21,640 --> 00:52:24,720
Speaker 4: so that's to me, Like the power and numbers and guys,

1046
00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:28,240
Speaker 4: it's no longer about competing against each other. It's about

1047
00:52:28,680 --> 00:52:31,480
Speaker 4: working with each other exactly.

1048
00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:34,200
Speaker 5: And as soon as we figure that out as a whole,

1049
00:52:34,760 --> 00:52:37,240
Speaker 5: the better off will be, no question.

1050
00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:41,000
Speaker 3: And Marshaun, you're a new owner of a building in Seawan.

1051
00:52:41,600 --> 00:52:44,719
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, you know, I'm just you know, just

1052
00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:46,920
Speaker 5: picking up bread crumbs and you know what I mean,

1053
00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:49,640
Speaker 5: doing what I could do along the way. So, I mean,

1054
00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:54,000
Speaker 5: you know, I'm really appreciative of the opportunities that that

1055
00:52:54,080 --> 00:52:57,440
Speaker 5: I've been blessed with. Just make sure I capitalize on

1056
00:52:57,480 --> 00:53:00,520
Speaker 5: them when it comes time. But many is that we

1057
00:53:00,640 --> 00:53:06,000
Speaker 5: had you until two and we want to be respectful

1058
00:53:06,080 --> 00:53:08,520
Speaker 5: of your time. Man, I just wanted to tell you

1059
00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:11,319
Speaker 5: straight up. Yeah, I mean, I appreciate it. Man, I

1060
00:53:11,360 --> 00:53:15,000
Speaker 5: had a pleasure to see and speak in front of

1061
00:53:15,080 --> 00:53:16,000
Speaker 5: moms last night.

1062
00:53:16,040 --> 00:53:18,920
Speaker 1: I hope I did. I hope I did justice.

1063
00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:21,120
Speaker 5: But man, it just feel good to be able to

1064
00:53:21,719 --> 00:53:27,000
Speaker 5: come to other communities and be accepted, you know, the

1065
00:53:27,040 --> 00:53:30,799
Speaker 5: way that I was accepted last night, But then to

1066
00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:34,200
Speaker 5: know that you know somebody who represents the community where

1067
00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:37,319
Speaker 5: I was at, like yourself, and knowing that the work

1068
00:53:37,320 --> 00:53:39,600
Speaker 5: you're doing and make you feel even better. So man,

1069
00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:42,280
Speaker 5: I appreciate you. Let you know that, let the Portland

1070
00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:44,040
Speaker 5: community know that I got a lot of love and

1071
00:53:44,040 --> 00:53:46,160
Speaker 5: a lot of respect for him, and thank you for

1072
00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:48,480
Speaker 5: fucking with me. But I appreciate you coming on and

1073
00:53:49,160 --> 00:53:51,840
Speaker 5: giving us time. And I think next it might be

1074
00:53:51,920 --> 00:53:54,719
Speaker 5: next week that I'll be seeing you again, so I

1075
00:53:54,800 --> 00:53:56,560
Speaker 5: look forward to that as well, Buddie.

1076
00:53:57,120 --> 00:54:00,080
Speaker 4: No, Man, I appreciate you showing love to Portland, but

1077
00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:03,400
Speaker 4: obviously allow me to be on your pod as well.

1078
00:54:03,880 --> 00:54:05,680
Speaker 4: But now, well we got we got plenty of more

1079
00:54:05,719 --> 00:54:08,120
Speaker 4: things to catch up offline, and we'll make sure we

1080
00:54:08,200 --> 00:54:09,600
Speaker 4: do that all good man.

1081
00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:11,719
Speaker 1: Respect Yes, sir no.

1082
00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:14,440
Speaker 3: And lastly, look as an agent, I've looked up to

1083
00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:16,600
Speaker 3: you and I've I've loved what you've done. I've admired

1084
00:54:16,640 --> 00:54:19,200
Speaker 3: what you've done. And hope every young player out there

1085
00:54:19,239 --> 00:54:21,400
Speaker 3: looks up to you and Morshawn and contacts you guys

1086
00:54:21,440 --> 00:54:24,400
Speaker 3: about advice and counsel and all mentorship because it's important.

1087
00:54:24,719 --> 00:54:26,359
Speaker 3: And what you guys have done and how you've done

1088
00:54:26,520 --> 00:54:29,000
Speaker 3: is very, very impressive. And I appreciate how you handled

1089
00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:30,440
Speaker 3: your career and your off season all the things you're

1090
00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:32,640
Speaker 3: doing right now. So good luck with the rest of

1091
00:54:32,719 --> 00:54:35,120
Speaker 3: stife you got going on and and uh much continued

1092
00:54:35,160 --> 00:54:35,680
Speaker 3: success to you.

1093
00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:35,960
Speaker 4: Man.

1094
00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:39,160
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, respect, hey Fresh, you gotta work on that, bro.

1095
00:54:39,320 --> 00:54:47,160
Speaker 5: You always sound like an agent when you talk.

1096
00:54:49,200 --> 00:54:50,799
Speaker 1: You got you got relaxed, man.

1097
00:54:50,920 --> 00:54:52,600
Speaker 5: I know you ain't got no heir up there, but

1098
00:54:52,800 --> 00:54:54,279
Speaker 5: you gotta let that ship down, my boy.

1099
00:54:54,440 --> 00:55:02,200
Speaker 1: Let you leng there. You go, man, respect gruns, we'll

1100
00:55:02,200 --> 00:55:03,000
Speaker 1: get up to man.

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00:55:03,040 --> 00:55:04,560
Speaker 4: Appreciate it all.

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Speaker 1: Good m hm