WEBVTT - I Deserve Some Loving Too w/ Lee Hubilla

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<v Speaker 1>Of the Law and Order franchises, SVU is considered especially watchable.

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<v Speaker 2>We are the amateur detectives who kind of investigate the

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<v Speaker 2>vicious felonies.

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<v Speaker 1>These episodes are based on.

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<v Speaker 3>These are our stories, done done.

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<v Speaker 2>Hello, and welcome to That's Messed Up an SVU podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>My name is Lisa Traeger, my name is Kara Klink.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know how we do. Every week we dissect

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<v Speaker 1>an episode of Long Order SVU and then we take

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<v Speaker 1>you through the true crime that the episode was based

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<v Speaker 1>on and then interview some hotty that was on the episode.

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<v Speaker 1>And today is no different. Lisa, we have a thousand

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<v Speaker 1>things to talk about today.

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<v Speaker 4>One thousand and I have a surprising thing to tell you.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, what is it.

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<v Speaker 2>I saw Fast and Furious nine in the movie theater yesterday.

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<v Speaker 1>Liza. It's so crazy that that happened. I didn't know

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<v Speaker 1>you were part of the Fast and Furious family. I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't know that you were into those I.

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<v Speaker 2>Didn't know either. But I am committed for life. And

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<v Speaker 2>it is silly. I love a movie. It's like Spice World,

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<v Speaker 2>Like I love a movie that's like, we know we're silly,

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<v Speaker 2>and we're okay with it. Yeah, We're going to take

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<v Speaker 2>a Pontiac into outer space.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's that, and that's that. On that listen, I'll

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<v Speaker 1>tell you something. I've never watched a second of a

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<v Speaker 1>Fast and Furious movie. I've never seen one of them. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I saw the first one. I think Paul Walker's very

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<v Speaker 1>hot rip. But that's it. I don't know anything else.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, No, it was great. I mean, Ludacris is in it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And what's weird is he such a good actor in

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<v Speaker 2>SVU A flop as an actor in.

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<v Speaker 1>This Fianna Luda no.

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<v Speaker 2>Barely acting like I don't know how he does it

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<v Speaker 2>because he's so talented in SVU, I thought, but whatever,

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<v Speaker 2>but Vin Diesel's funny.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a great time Charlie's throne, her earring game

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<v Speaker 2>was amazing. Enough about Fast and the Furious, of course,

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<v Speaker 2>but I just thought you'd be shocked as I was.

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<v Speaker 4>I am shocked. I am shocked.

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<v Speaker 1>Like when I imagined what you were doing last night, it

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't that. I finally went last night to a restaurant

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<v Speaker 1>in LA that I've been dying to go to for

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<v Speaker 1>six years since I moved here, and it was really good.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you going to give him a shout out or

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<v Speaker 1>what you ordered. It's called Bestia's. It was hard to

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<v Speaker 1>get a reservation, but it was packed to the fucking gills.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought I would see a celeb. To be honest,

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't look around much. But my friend that went

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<v Speaker 1>saw Kanye last time she was there, so I was hopeful.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, saw a lot of very stylish people

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<v Speaker 1>and had some delicious wine. The somelier talked us into

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<v Speaker 1>a bottle of wine we could not afford, and so

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<v Speaker 1>he's very good.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait, but what did you order? You said there was

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of meat options.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's a very meaty place. Like Bestia literally means beast,

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<v Speaker 1>so it's a you know, meaty place. But we got

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<v Speaker 1>squid ink pasta, which for me is adventurous because I'm

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<v Speaker 1>usually like get the same like few pastas when I

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<v Speaker 1>go places. And the squading pasta was very good. And

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<v Speaker 1>then we got a Brenzino because I do eat fish.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a squid ink fanatic. Oh you are, Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>love it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's good. I didn't know what it would taste like,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was really salty. I think it was I

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<v Speaker 1>was telling Jared I watched a girl eat squiddink pasta

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<v Speaker 1>on my semester abroad twenty years ago, and I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't like the way this looks. Her teeth turned

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<v Speaker 1>black immediately. I was like, I hate this. But this

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<v Speaker 1>didn't happen with the squiding pasta we had last night.

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<v Speaker 2>No.

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<v Speaker 1>One time.

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<v Speaker 2>I ran into Janelle James in New York and she

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<v Speaker 2>was like, what's up with your mouth?

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<v Speaker 1>And I had black all over my mouth and.

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<v Speaker 2>I said, oh, I was just eating squid ink pasta,

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<v Speaker 2>and she goes, last time we hung out, you were

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<v Speaker 2>eating chicken liver moose.

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<v Speaker 4>What's wrong with you? She like, you're eating too many

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<v Speaker 4>weird foods.

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<v Speaker 2>And I was like, it is fucked that you've seen

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<v Speaker 2>me this in one week, eating all of these weird foods.

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<v Speaker 1>But oh my god, it was a pretty hilarious.

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<v Speaker 2>I have a weird thing that happened as well. So

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I do my workout classes with Stasha pat

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<v Speaker 2>Well my school of thought. So she calls her like

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<v Speaker 2>one of her programs the junior high. Yeah, people called

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<v Speaker 2>her a pedophile. She has to change the name.

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<v Speaker 1>I saw her post. I saw her post because we

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<v Speaker 1>follow each other, and I saw her post this morning, going,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm changing the name of Junior High to something something

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<v Speaker 1>thought thought certification, and she was I can't believe I

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<v Speaker 1>have to say this, And I was like, that's okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I wonder what happened.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I said, you're not a pedophile. People are crazy,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, likely what who cares? And she goes, if

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<v Speaker 2>more than one person thinks you're a pedophile, you have

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<v Speaker 2>to change the name. But basically they implied that because

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<v Speaker 2>the program was called Junior High and her classes are

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<v Speaker 2>school of thought, that she's teaching children to be thoughts thoughts.

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<v Speaker 1>That's crazy. But I also thought that I thought of

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<v Speaker 1>it more like junior varsity because it's like, yes, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like, isn't it the lower it's not the lower level,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's not as hard as the one on one.

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, it is as hard, but you do it

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<v Speaker 2>with like a group trading right right instead of one

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<v Speaker 2>on one, so it's more affordable.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's like a.

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<v Speaker 4>Junior high mini program.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and people are like, you're a pedophile.

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<v Speaker 2>So I just thought that our audience would like to

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<v Speaker 2>hear about pedophile news, you know, Okay, I'm being honest, you.

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<v Speaker 1>Know, well, speaking of sexual assault, in the news, Bill

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<v Speaker 1>Cosby was released from jail in a insane turn of events.

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<v Speaker 1>I still don't really understand what happened. Apparently one prosecutor

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<v Speaker 1>told him you will not be prosecuted, and then the

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<v Speaker 1>prosecutor that took that pop prosecutor's job ended up prosecuting him,

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<v Speaker 1>and so they let him go based on the deal

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<v Speaker 1>that the first prosecutor gave him.

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<v Speaker 2>I've refused to read anything about it because I know

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<v Speaker 2>it's just going to make me mad, and so I

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<v Speaker 2>saw it. It's not news to me that people don't

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<v Speaker 2>care about sexual assault, but it is infuriating.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just gross that he has never expressed any remorse

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<v Speaker 1>at all.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I don't think you thinks seated anything wrong. I

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<v Speaker 2>think he is someone that thinks women are for being

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<v Speaker 2>a wife or for me to drug you and rapio like.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think he respects women at all. And you know,

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<v Speaker 2>with his traditional points of view, he's just a piece

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<v Speaker 2>of shit. And I am just annoyed. I'm annoyed, and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm mad and angry, and it's everything that's.

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<v Speaker 1>Wrong with the system. And I really just don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to have to argue with comedians about this. Yeah, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I understand that. And so Cosby got out of jail,

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<v Speaker 1>and someone that is remaining in jail is Alison Mack,

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<v Speaker 1>the actress who was instrumental in the Nexium debacle with

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<v Speaker 1>Keith Ranieri. She got sentenced to three years in federal prison.

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<v Speaker 1>Is in federal prison like kind of more cushy, like

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<v Speaker 1>a little nicer than I think.

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<v Speaker 2>It's more safe. It's like more security or something.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what's going to happen. Throw everyone in

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<v Speaker 2>a fucking ditch. No, that was my Soviet vibes coming out.

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<v Speaker 1>She'll be out in three years.

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<v Speaker 4>She will serve a harsher crime than Bill Cosby.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I was. It's it's all too much.

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<v Speaker 2>And I know we do a show about all this,

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<v Speaker 2>but it is just too much sometimes. And right now

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<v Speaker 2>for future episodes, I'm researching one crime that's truly breaking

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<v Speaker 2>my spirit.

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<v Speaker 1>It is.

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<v Speaker 2>The world is fucked, and sometimes it's just too much.

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<v Speaker 1>I just could not read about Bill Cosby getting released.

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<v Speaker 4>I just couldn't.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, dozens and dozens of women over decades.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that cover, we shared it on our stories. But

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<v Speaker 1>like that cover of I think it's like the new

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<v Speaker 1>York Times magazine or something that Marishka shared was or posted,

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<v Speaker 1>is like that really strikes you. How many women are

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<v Speaker 1>sitting there as Bill Cosby's victims.

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<v Speaker 4>And we know this, And that's what pisses me off.

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<v Speaker 2>Is like, on top of all the abuse everyone goes

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<v Speaker 2>through constantly, it's like the gaslighting and the diminishing of

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<v Speaker 2>everything where it's like, I just if I hear another

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<v Speaker 2>person ever anywhere, even if they're not at my table,

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<v Speaker 2>I will hit them, like I don't care if anyone

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<v Speaker 2>ever again says why didn't she go to the cops.

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<v Speaker 2>Just go to the cops, go to the courts. You

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<v Speaker 2>deserve tobody slapped in the face. That's my new policy.

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<v Speaker 2>I am not engaging in that conversation anymore. And I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know how many more like evident, like, how many

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<v Speaker 2>more examples we need to prove how fucked up our

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<v Speaker 2>judicial system is when it comes to sex crimes.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's it's very annoying.

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<v Speaker 1>And in many other ways, I mean not just sex crimes,

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<v Speaker 1>but in a lot of things that deal with women.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean Britney Spears, they just said today her appeal

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<v Speaker 1>was denied. I didn't see the removed. But but listen,

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<v Speaker 1>from what I read, that doesn't mean that it's over.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, basically that was not in response to the

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<v Speaker 1>twenty four minute statement that she made, like that's it's

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<v Speaker 1>from what I read, there's still hope. This is not

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<v Speaker 1>the end. But it's crazy because this Hollywood producer, it's

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<v Speaker 1>his mother who's the judge. So it is a female

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<v Speaker 1>judge because people are saying, oh, this is sexist, like

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<v Speaker 1>a man would not be locked up like this, or

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<v Speaker 1>like the way that Brittany is locked up, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>physically and emotionally and finding But it is a female judge.

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<v Speaker 1>But there is also you know, internalized misogyny everywhere.

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<v Speaker 2>So often I feel like old school feminism and the like.

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<v Speaker 2>To get ahead, it was, how do I join the

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<v Speaker 2>boys club? How do I get a seat at the table.

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<v Speaker 2>And to get a seat at the table with the

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<v Speaker 2>boys club, you have to act like a boy. You

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<v Speaker 2>have to be a piece of shit, you have to

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<v Speaker 2>join in the patriarchal ways, like a Betsy DeVos is

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<v Speaker 2>a good example, you know, like it's not like you

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<v Speaker 2>bring your full femininity to the table and you achieve

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<v Speaker 2>success at bear Stearns. You know, like you are hiding

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<v Speaker 2>that and being as masculine as possible, and the new

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<v Speaker 2>wave or like how I feel is like, fuck the table.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't want your table.

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<v Speaker 1>I want my own table.

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<v Speaker 4>I want my own rules.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to fit into what you've created society

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<v Speaker 2>to be. And that's how I feel about like maybe

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<v Speaker 2>an old judge who's been around for a while, it's

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<v Speaker 2>like you're following the rules of the patriarchy, thinking like

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<v Speaker 2>I need to keep being here and be the woman here,

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<v Speaker 2>versus like you know, diving into your femininity and wanting

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<v Speaker 2>your own system that you create. I feel that way,

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<v Speaker 2>and sometimes within comment they're like if you look sometimes

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<v Speaker 2>at like the women that truly succeed, they're not bringing

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<v Speaker 2>other women around. They're not like they're not suddenly like

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<v Speaker 2>breaking down barriers. They're doing what they can to stay

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<v Speaker 2>at that table and be the one woman at the table.

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<v Speaker 2>And so that's what I think of when I see

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<v Speaker 2>old dumb bitches acting like an old dumb bitch.

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<v Speaker 1>So that is how I feel.

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<v Speaker 2>I also would like to add shout out to everyone

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<v Speaker 2>that I met in Philly.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, it was so cool to see all you

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<v Speaker 1>guys going out to see Liza. That was really fun

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<v Speaker 1>and I was jealous and I'm hoping that we have

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<v Speaker 1>more future.

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<v Speaker 2>Everyone is excited to come see us. People asked about Oscar.

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<v Speaker 2>Everyone was great and everyone was cool, like I met

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<v Speaker 2>an author, I met some chefs that are juicing. People

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<v Speaker 2>are listening to us at work every day, Kaylee, Tabitha.

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<v Speaker 4>We went out.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean it was really fun meeting everyone that liked

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<v Speaker 2>the pod, and I could tell who the pod people

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<v Speaker 2>were in the audience. I'm like, oh, do you have

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<v Speaker 2>bright yellow hair? I bet you listen to the pod,

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<v Speaker 2>you know. But then one girl had blue hair, did

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<v Speaker 2>not listen to the pod. Hopefully she joins us, but

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<v Speaker 2>she did come from Rochester. But I partied too hard

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<v Speaker 2>and I Saturday night, I was like, I will not

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<v Speaker 2>be going out. I have work to do. I have

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<v Speaker 2>a six am flight. I will behave What did I do?

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<v Speaker 2>I was smoking cigarettes in someone's hotel bathroom with the

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<v Speaker 2>steam on until four in the morning, and then packed

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<v Speaker 2>and then at four point thirty the host drove me

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<v Speaker 2>to the airport and then I had a hellish Sunday

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<v Speaker 2>night of traveling.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I'm no.

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<v Speaker 1>Sleep, Oh my god, Liza.

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<v Speaker 4>But Philly was fun.

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<v Speaker 2>So our I was just nice meeting everyone, So shout

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<v Speaker 2>out to everyone.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh I met some fine artists, Yeah, fine artists.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Well, a lot of our listeners have very cool

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<v Speaker 1>jobs we get. We get emails from like private investigators,

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<v Speaker 1>from freaking trial lawyers, and like very cool jobs. This

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<v Speaker 1>one listener, I'll just say her name is Taylor because

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<v Speaker 1>she didn't say if I could use her name, but

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<v Speaker 1>she wrote us a message regarding the subway fish scandal

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<v Speaker 1>that many of you have checked in with us about.

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<v Speaker 1>She wrote us a DM saying marine biologists here they

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<v Speaker 1>test fish DNA to make sure that markets are actually

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<v Speaker 1>selling what they say they're selling. Tuna, swordfish, sharks are

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<v Speaker 1>all high value fish, but you can't tell the difference

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<v Speaker 1>once they're a FILA. There's been fraud that benefits the

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<v Speaker 1>fishmongers or fishermen that are over underreporting what they catch,

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<v Speaker 1>so biologists struggle to monitor fish stocks. Anyway, I just

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<v Speaker 1>thought it was interesting that this is a big problem

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<v Speaker 1>for subway, but this has actually been a problem for

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<v Speaker 1>a really long time, she said, And I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>it's cool.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. There reminded me because yeah, Sush, she had this issue.

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<v Speaker 2>People are like getting shittier fish and like just dying

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<v Speaker 2>it or something like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and like it's not real.

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<v Speaker 2>No, marine biologists. I've wanted to be one. We've all

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to be one. We've all wanted to go to

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<v Speaker 2>college in Florida.

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<v Speaker 5>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm like, you have that job that like every

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<v Speaker 1>eleven year old says that they want to have, Like

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to work with dolphins and I'm gonna live

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<v Speaker 1>in Florida. Yeah, totally.

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<v Speaker 4>Also marine biologists.

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<v Speaker 2>The name of a great Seinfeld episode.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the best.

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<v Speaker 2>I would say my top ten episodes is that one.

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<v Speaker 2>So if you want to hit up Seinfeld and you

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<v Speaker 2>have not watched drag Race, and I'm behind on Bravo,

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<v Speaker 2>so we can't.

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<v Speaker 1>I started, I'm half I honestly got halfway through their entrances,

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<v Speaker 1>so I started, but I'm not very far in. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna catch up this week. Well, you've had in Now,

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<v Speaker 1>speaking of great episodes, we got to dive into today's.

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<v Speaker 4>Great Let's get this baby started.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, So now let's dive into I Deserve Some

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<v Speaker 1>Loving Too, which is a more recent episode. This is

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<v Speaker 1>season twenty one, episode fourteen. Actually, this episode aired literally

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<v Speaker 1>a month before Lockdown Pandemic Lockdown in February of twenty twenty,

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<v Speaker 1>so feels like it's in our very immediate past. We

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<v Speaker 1>open on Olivia in her building on the phone. She's

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<v Speaker 1>in like a nice wood paneled elevator. I love like

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<v Speaker 1>sort of getting to figure out, like what neighborhood does

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<v Speaker 1>Olivia live in? What kind of building? You know? While

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<v Speaker 1>we find out she got a door guy. Baby, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, that's good that you live in a

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<v Speaker 1>doorman building. I think you deserve that. I mean there's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people that don't like Olivia Benson walking

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<v Speaker 1>around New York City. I mean a lot of creeps,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, So it's good that she has a doorman.

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<v Speaker 1>Not that man. This man looks like he could defend

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<v Speaker 1>her or anything, but he is kind of overly cheerful,

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<v Speaker 1>like miss Benson, your male Like it's it was I

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<v Speaker 1>thought it was kind of weird. And then the whole

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<v Speaker 1>opening of this episode is like, can everybody just leave

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<v Speaker 1>Benson the fuck alone? Like immediately her doorman bothers her.

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<v Speaker 1>Then as soon as she leaves the building, some jogger

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<v Speaker 1>is like hey, and then a guy getting out of

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<v Speaker 1>a cab goes can I get a smile? And like, literally,

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<v Speaker 1>fuck every can I get a smile? Guy? Forever? Like,

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<v Speaker 1>I think most women have agreed that you're not going

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<v Speaker 1>to get a smile that way, and it's the most

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<v Speaker 1>annoying thing to ask for.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, also, why do people need to smile?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know to see that either. What if I

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<v Speaker 1>just got fired? Yeah? What if I just pissed myself.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, there's lot of things could be happening.

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<v Speaker 4>Honestly, I just want some I will I now.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm having a lot of fantasies in my brain of

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<v Speaker 2>punching people in the face.

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<v Speaker 1>I think slowly men are learning that the smile thing

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<v Speaker 1>is stupid, but I think that they also think it's

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<v Speaker 1>just like a way to disarm a woman and like

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<v Speaker 1>get to start flirting. And it's like, no, most women

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<v Speaker 1>hate it. Most women hate it. So we were following

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<v Speaker 1>Olivia on her walk and then we sort of transition

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<v Speaker 1>to following this other hot woman as she walks down

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<v Speaker 1>the street and she goes down into the subway and

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<v Speaker 1>we see this guy notice her and follow her down

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<v Speaker 1>into the subway. But this is midday, so you're not

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<v Speaker 1>feeling like quite the you're not feeling quite the like ominous,

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<v Speaker 1>there's an attack about to happen thing. So this woman

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<v Speaker 1>gets in the subway, then Kat officer to me and

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<v Speaker 1>gets on the train, and a guy on the train

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<v Speaker 1>gives her eyes. So it's kind of like, what are

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<v Speaker 1>we looking at it? We just looking at like men

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<v Speaker 1>being gross to women day to day in New York City.

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<v Speaker 1>That's like what the setup is here? And we see

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<v Speaker 1>this guy who followed the hot woman. We see him

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like grinding up on the woman that he followed.

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<v Speaker 1>And then Amanda Rollins gets on the train and she

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<v Speaker 1>settles in between a couple of man spreaders. And then

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<v Speaker 1>this original perv who followed the hot woman gropes another

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<v Speaker 1>woman and now he's like near and every time he

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<v Speaker 1>gropes woman, the woman's like hey, and he just kind

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<v Speaker 1>of moves on, which I feel like I can relate

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<v Speaker 1>to that. I think that is like what happens like

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<v Speaker 1>somebody bumps up against you and they're like grinding on

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<v Speaker 1>the back of your butt on the subway and then

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<v Speaker 1>you're like ew and then they kind of just move

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<v Speaker 1>away from you. This is years ago.

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<v Speaker 2>I was on the train and I accidentally steps on

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<v Speaker 2>these girls sneakers a little. I mean, you know, morning

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<v Speaker 2>commutes are packed, they're a little wild. And she got

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<v Speaker 2>mad and she's like, don't fucking do that, and I

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<v Speaker 2>kind of, you know, and then it happened again. She's like,

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<v Speaker 2>I will fucking like she fully threatened me, and I go,

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<v Speaker 2>are you kidding? She goes no, and it's like, well

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<v Speaker 2>you should have saved your money and taken a car, bitch. Sorry,

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<v Speaker 2>like you're gonna come on the train with new shoes

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<v Speaker 2>and be mad someone accidentally step by him.

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<v Speaker 1>I got into a fight with a man on the

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<v Speaker 1>subway for that exact same thing, and he I was

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<v Speaker 1>with my young cousin, who was like only twelve at

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<v Speaker 1>the time or something, and I go, oh, I'm sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>did I hurt your shoes? Like, because he was getting

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<v Speaker 1>so mad at me, and so I started like making

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<v Speaker 1>fun of him, and then he was like, you fucking bitch.

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<v Speaker 1>I was just sitting there like steaming at me, and

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<v Speaker 1>I was just like, maybe I shouldn't be antagonizing this

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<v Speaker 1>man while my young cousin is with me like this is.

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<v Speaker 1>But I've been the opposite.

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<v Speaker 2>I was high as hell once and I guess my

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<v Speaker 2>stuff was taking up more space than I thought.

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<v Speaker 4>And some guy was like, oh, look at you.

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<v Speaker 2>He's just so selfish and inconsiderate, and I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>what if I'm just high in reading a book, asshole,

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<v Speaker 2>And like we got into a full lass fight because

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<v Speaker 2>like I moved my coat. But it's like you're assuming

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<v Speaker 2>I was just like in my own world, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I've been on both sides, lots of fights everywhere.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, we could cut all of this because none of

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<v Speaker 1>this is about groping or grinding. It's just about us

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<v Speaker 1>bothering people on the subway. But you know, but basically

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<v Speaker 1>this guy is just like moving from person to person

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<v Speaker 1>groping them. Now he's near Cat, and the guy who

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<v Speaker 1>originally gave Cat eyes gives Cat a signal, and then

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<v Speaker 1>she grabs the guy and goes, got you grope a dope? Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>all right? And then this guy Kat's obviously like not

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<v Speaker 1>strong enough to hold him. I guess he makes a

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<v Speaker 1>run for it. This is like a.

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<v Speaker 3>Full sting operation. The hot Girl's in on it.

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<v Speaker 1>The original Hawk girl who he followed into the subway

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<v Speaker 1>as a cop, rollins Taman and the guy who gave

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<v Speaker 1>Cat eyes at the beginning and they gave her the

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<v Speaker 1>signal is also a cop. So four undercover officers are

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<v Speaker 1>like all in this operation to get a subway groper.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying that that's like not a legitimate concern.

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<v Speaker 1>I just like I don't believe the NYPD provides this

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<v Speaker 1>kind of manpower now they're too.

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<v Speaker 4>Busy busting chuer Oh ladies, Right, well, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Was just speaking of This guy starts tearing through the subway.

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<v Speaker 1>He destroys a turo stand like just fully, like could

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<v Speaker 1>have just run by it, but instead like throws the

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<v Speaker 1>turo stand like on the He smashes his cell phone,

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<v Speaker 1>throws it on the tracks. He gets upstairs, he turns

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<v Speaker 1>his jacket inside out, puts on a hat, like he

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<v Speaker 1>kind of knows what he's doing. Then they find like

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<v Speaker 1>spot him, they grab him, and he keeps going wrong, Guy, wrong, guy,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just on my way to work. Police brutality, and

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<v Speaker 1>like police brutality is very very real. But like this

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<v Speaker 1>guy is fully guilty, and the crowd starts chanting and

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<v Speaker 1>going nuts. It's like a very intense scene just where

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<v Speaker 1>like there's the subway can be already claustrophobic, and then

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<v Speaker 1>you have like a scene where people are moving in

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<v Speaker 1>on you and screaming and chanting and no one's listening

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<v Speaker 1>to what you're saying. Like Icy tries to explain, and

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<v Speaker 1>he's like, he's a grope or imagine if it was

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<v Speaker 1>your daughter, and no one cares. They're all just like

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<v Speaker 1>in on the mob mentality. So it's kind of nuts.

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<v Speaker 1>And now we're at the precinct. Olivia is reviewing this

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<v Speaker 1>bystander footage from the internet which has, as she says,

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<v Speaker 1>that one as viral as the flu good one live

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<v Speaker 1>and she's kind of reviewing the footage with Deputy Chief

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<v Speaker 1>Christian Garland played by desmor Barnes, and he's like, who's

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<v Speaker 1>op was this? And it's the guy who gave the

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<v Speaker 1>signal to kat Is, Sergeant Hassim Kaldoon Cutie And he

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<v Speaker 1>comes back in a few episodes, but this is his

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<v Speaker 1>first appearance in the show and he's part of They

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<v Speaker 1>literally are like the SVU subway unit. I think he's

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<v Speaker 1>a transit he's in the transit unit, but they say

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<v Speaker 1>it's the SVU subway unit, and I'm like, is that

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<v Speaker 1>a thing? Anyway? They were trying to target cereal grinders.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how you do that. I mean that's

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<v Speaker 1>literally like finding an ant in an ant hill that

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<v Speaker 1>is like an asshole ant. Like, there's just so many

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<v Speaker 1>fucking people in the subway every day. People take different routes,

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<v Speaker 1>they say, in different cars. I mean, I just don't

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<v Speaker 1>know how you find cereal gropers. I guess I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>There's probably footage, I suppose, but it just seems like

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<v Speaker 1>a lot. So in this like sting that they set up,

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<v Speaker 1>they snagged three gropers. They're all at the precinct being

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<v Speaker 1>interrogated at the same time. I don't know, this is

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<v Speaker 1>like television magic. So there's like, you know, they're all like,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, my hand slipped, and then another guy's like,

0:20:54.040 --> 0:20:55.879
<v Speaker 1>what do you want me to do? It's like springtime.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody's took their coats off, like I'm al like, everybody's

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<v Speaker 1>these guys are creeps. And then the third guys who

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<v Speaker 1>were interested. This is the guy who we followed at

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<v Speaker 1>from the beginning of the episode who ran and his

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<v Speaker 1>name is Dwayne Verrick. He's a data clerk for the

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<v Speaker 1>US Citizenship and Immigration Department.

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<v Speaker 2>He's too hot to be a Duayne Oh I was

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<v Speaker 2>about says too had to be a Dwayne, but Dwayne

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<v Speaker 2>the Rock Johnson. Nevermind, Dwayne is rebranded as a hot

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<v Speaker 2>guy name.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you think because of like Dwayne Wayne from a

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<v Speaker 1>different world, maybe Dwayne was more of a I thought

0:21:28.240 --> 0:21:28.840
<v Speaker 1>he was cool.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I take all of this back, Dwayne only hotties

0:21:32.680 --> 0:21:35.240
<v Speaker 2>because then Dwayne Wade, I think is pretty beloved too.

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<v Speaker 1>So Dwayne is saying that all this touching was accidental,

0:21:39.480 --> 0:21:42.320
<v Speaker 1>and they're like, okay, why did you run, destroy your

0:21:42.359 --> 0:21:45.560
<v Speaker 1>phone and change outfits because you're acab? I mean that's

0:21:45.600 --> 0:21:48.560
<v Speaker 1>not really He's like, well, my dad had that conversation

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<v Speaker 1>a long time ago with me, Like and then Demur

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<v Speaker 1>Barnes is like, okay, he's playing the race card and

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<v Speaker 1>now he's playing his lawyer card, but like, no one

0:21:55.720 --> 0:21:58.399
<v Speaker 1>is buying it. This guy is clearly like he's just

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<v Speaker 1>like a little bit too cocky. I don't know it's

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<v Speaker 1>because he has like a federal job and he knows

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<v Speaker 1>how the system works and how you can just kind

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<v Speaker 1>of lie your way through things. But he's definitely a creepo.

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<v Speaker 1>They want to check his computers, at least his work computer,

0:22:12.280 --> 0:22:14.720
<v Speaker 1>but Homeland Security is going to throw out roadblocks so

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<v Speaker 1>lives like what if we don't ask?

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<v Speaker 3>So now they're at the office.

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<v Speaker 1>Of Roory O'Toole, who is a man whose Irish name

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<v Speaker 1>is matched only by his extremely Irish face. This man

0:22:26.760 --> 0:22:30.480
<v Speaker 1>looks very, very irish. He's played by Jeremy Bob, who

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<v Speaker 1>has also been in two other episodes of SVU as

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<v Speaker 1>different characters, including Lessons Learned, which we have recently covered.

0:22:37.119 --> 0:22:40.760
<v Speaker 1>And we know him from Russian Doll. Do you remember

0:22:40.760 --> 0:22:44.160
<v Speaker 1>he's a character in Russian Doll? I do, yeah, which

0:22:44.200 --> 0:22:48.639
<v Speaker 1>is a show we both love. Sweet Birthday Baby. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>So we're at roy Otol's office at the US Citizenship

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<v Speaker 1>and Immigration Department and he's talking to Benson and Fann.

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<v Speaker 1>He's like, yeah, Dwayne works for me. We vet marriages

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<v Speaker 1>to make sure they're legit and that they're not green

0:23:00.080 --> 0:23:03.679
<v Speaker 1>card romances. They ask o'tool if they can see Dwayne's computer,

0:23:03.720 --> 0:23:06.000
<v Speaker 1>and he's like, I got to go through proper channels.

0:23:06.080 --> 0:23:08.320
<v Speaker 1>And they're like, well, if we were to subpoena you,

0:23:08.400 --> 0:23:10.040
<v Speaker 1>this would look pretty bad for your office and it

0:23:10.040 --> 0:23:12.800
<v Speaker 1>would turn you guys into a punchline. And they're like, look,

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<v Speaker 1>you're an investigator, why don't you check out his search

0:23:15.320 --> 0:23:18.600
<v Speaker 1>history and if there's anything creepy, let us know flash

0:23:18.600 --> 0:23:21.440
<v Speaker 1>forward to the precinct. They've obviously looked and found many

0:23:21.520 --> 0:23:24.359
<v Speaker 1>upskirt photos on this guy's work computer. This is a

0:23:24.400 --> 0:23:28.359
<v Speaker 1>Class E felony, and they didn't need a warrant because

0:23:28.680 --> 0:23:31.080
<v Speaker 1>he has a job at a federal building, so his

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<v Speaker 1>work computer was up for grabs. Now Dwayne is like,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, I'm screwed, and he uses his bargaining chip,

0:23:38.680 --> 0:23:42.119
<v Speaker 1>which is he claims that O'Toole, his boss, is actually

0:23:42.200 --> 0:23:44.840
<v Speaker 1>the PERV. He wants to make a deal. He claims

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<v Speaker 1>that O'Toole has been holding up green cards in exchange

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<v Speaker 1>for sex, Like he basically will target young women that

0:23:52.320 --> 0:23:56.119
<v Speaker 1>face like religious or political persecution back in their country,

0:23:56.200 --> 0:23:58.840
<v Speaker 1>so they're too scared to go home. They have a

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<v Speaker 1>couple red flags in their applications for green cards with

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<v Speaker 1>their husbands, and he basically is like, have sex with

0:24:06.880 --> 0:24:10.160
<v Speaker 1>me or I'll deport you. So they're like, what's the proof,

0:24:10.640 --> 0:24:13.119
<v Speaker 1>What proof does Dwayne have of this? And they're like,

0:24:13.200 --> 0:24:15.359
<v Speaker 1>one time he took a file off his desk and

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<v Speaker 1>came back the next day smiling and said, the best

0:24:18.320 --> 0:24:22.440
<v Speaker 1>cure for blue balls is a green card, and I'm like, okay, well,

0:24:22.480 --> 0:24:25.080
<v Speaker 1>it seems like they need a little bit more like

0:24:25.440 --> 0:24:28.880
<v Speaker 1>evidence than that. But he does give them a victim name.

0:24:29.080 --> 0:24:34.159
<v Speaker 1>So now they're questioning Lena Vasquez Boyd. She admits that

0:24:34.240 --> 0:24:36.639
<v Speaker 1>he questioned her three times out of the office, and

0:24:36.680 --> 0:24:38.640
<v Speaker 1>she says she did what she had to do, So

0:24:38.680 --> 0:24:42.760
<v Speaker 1>she essentially admits that this guy did assault her, but

0:24:42.840 --> 0:24:45.400
<v Speaker 1>she can't testify because she can't go back to Guatemala

0:24:45.480 --> 0:24:47.840
<v Speaker 1>and she loves her husband and he's been cheated on

0:24:47.960 --> 0:24:50.399
<v Speaker 1>and he's sensitive and doesn't want to like she doesn't

0:24:50.400 --> 0:24:54.200
<v Speaker 1>want him to know. So now Finn and Benson are

0:24:54.520 --> 0:24:58.200
<v Speaker 1>debriefing Garland. They're like, he basically will meet the couple

0:24:58.240 --> 0:24:59.840
<v Speaker 1>at his office, and then he'll say he needs to

0:24:59.880 --> 0:25:02.120
<v Speaker 1>meet the women separately, and he'll meet them in his

0:25:02.200 --> 0:25:05.359
<v Speaker 1>mini van and basically say, you want the green card.

0:25:06.040 --> 0:25:08.640
<v Speaker 1>I deserve a little love and too. Now that is

0:25:08.920 --> 0:25:11.760
<v Speaker 1>the name of the episode, is I deserve some loving too.

0:25:11.840 --> 0:25:15.240
<v Speaker 1>And it's also like this guy's catchphrase, it's very strange,

0:25:15.280 --> 0:25:18.520
<v Speaker 1>like why would you keep repeating that sentence? Well, this

0:25:18.520 --> 0:25:18.880
<v Speaker 1>isn't not.

0:25:18.840 --> 0:25:21.560
<v Speaker 2>The first time there a purp has a signature. A

0:25:21.560 --> 0:25:22.879
<v Speaker 2>little saying.

0:25:24.240 --> 0:25:26.240
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, you're right. I guess there's like to tell

0:25:26.280 --> 0:25:28.600
<v Speaker 1>me that you like it guy or whatever. Yeah, like

0:25:28.680 --> 0:25:30.320
<v Speaker 1>I'm a bad boy. I mean there.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like it's a play. It's a thing that

0:25:31.920 --> 0:25:33.440
<v Speaker 2>happens pretty often for.

0:25:33.440 --> 0:25:36.120
<v Speaker 1>Me, though, Like forcing someone to say something is more

0:25:36.119 --> 0:25:38.280
<v Speaker 1>of like a power play than just being like, hey,

0:25:38.400 --> 0:25:40.400
<v Speaker 1>I deserve some love and too. To keep saying hey,

0:25:40.440 --> 0:25:42.480
<v Speaker 1>I deserve some loving too is weird, I think, But

0:25:42.560 --> 0:25:44.960
<v Speaker 1>this guy is weird, So you're right, it's not that

0:25:45.080 --> 0:25:47.720
<v Speaker 1>crazy to have a signature catchphrase when you're a creepy ah.

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<v Speaker 4>So both of us repeat things constantly. We can't fault

0:25:52.520 --> 0:25:55.200
<v Speaker 4>this guy, yep, but not every time.

0:25:56.640 --> 0:25:59.240
<v Speaker 1>It's not just about repetition. It's like having this dorky

0:25:59.280 --> 0:26:01.320
<v Speaker 1>line that you say every time you're trying to like

0:26:01.359 --> 0:26:04.200
<v Speaker 1>assault a woman. You're like, I deserve some love and two.

0:26:04.680 --> 0:26:07.960
<v Speaker 1>Like it's just weird. I think it's a strange little line.

0:26:08.119 --> 0:26:10.879
<v Speaker 1>Impressive that it's twenty one letters, though, yes, I was

0:26:10.920 --> 0:26:13.000
<v Speaker 1>gonna say they also had to maybe they had to

0:26:13.040 --> 0:26:14.800
<v Speaker 1>hammer it home because they were so excited that they

0:26:14.800 --> 0:26:16.040
<v Speaker 1>found a twenty one letter name.

0:26:16.240 --> 0:26:18.439
<v Speaker 2>Well, I also wonder if they came up with the title. No,

0:26:18.520 --> 0:26:20.280
<v Speaker 2>they couldn't, like if they came up with the title,

0:26:20.400 --> 0:26:22.960
<v Speaker 2>squeezed that in or made it so it had to

0:26:22.960 --> 0:26:24.840
<v Speaker 2>be twenty one and used it or was it just

0:26:24.880 --> 0:26:25.200
<v Speaker 2>in there?

0:26:25.200 --> 0:26:26.239
<v Speaker 4>And they're like, can we use it?

0:26:26.400 --> 0:26:28.399
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it would be fine if he if they

0:26:28.400 --> 0:26:30.080
<v Speaker 1>said it one time in the episode, but they mentioned

0:26:30.119 --> 0:26:32.600
<v Speaker 1>it three times. They're like, this is his thing that

0:26:32.640 --> 0:26:36.720
<v Speaker 1>he says all the time. It's just interesting. So basically,

0:26:37.040 --> 0:26:39.240
<v Speaker 1>if these women turn him down, they'll get supported or

0:26:39.280 --> 0:26:41.880
<v Speaker 1>they end up in iced attention. So Finn and Olivia

0:26:42.000 --> 0:26:45.120
<v Speaker 1>want to access his computers and phone records, but Garland

0:26:45.200 --> 0:26:48.399
<v Speaker 1>is like this is ice, Like, we're gonna need more corroboration,

0:26:48.440 --> 0:26:52.520
<v Speaker 1>We're going to need more names. So now Rollins and Keldoon,

0:26:53.240 --> 0:26:56.760
<v Speaker 1>who is this qut from the Subway Unit, are now

0:26:56.800 --> 0:26:59.920
<v Speaker 1>at a FA restaurant where they asked to see Rosami Klan.

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<v Speaker 1>She immediately like books of this. She says, oh, I'll

0:27:03.480 --> 0:27:04.919
<v Speaker 1>go get her for you, and then she books it

0:27:04.960 --> 0:27:05.440
<v Speaker 1>out of there.

0:27:05.560 --> 0:27:07.920
<v Speaker 2>And the thing is I love that. I think it's

0:27:07.920 --> 0:27:11.159
<v Speaker 2>one of my favorite things. But she just sped walks

0:27:11.240 --> 0:27:11.840
<v Speaker 2>too fast?

0:27:12.200 --> 0:27:13.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, yeah, Like if.

0:27:13.680 --> 0:27:15.920
<v Speaker 2>She just waited three more seconds to speed walk. She

0:27:15.960 --> 0:27:17.359
<v Speaker 2>could have maybe gotten away.

0:27:17.240 --> 0:27:19.480
<v Speaker 1>If she played it a little bit more chill, which

0:27:19.520 --> 0:27:22.600
<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't have noticed. She'd be halfway down in Queen

0:27:22.720 --> 0:27:26.000
<v Speaker 1>somewhere anyway. So they tell her, you're not in trouble,

0:27:26.080 --> 0:27:27.440
<v Speaker 1>we just want to talk to you about a tool.

0:27:27.560 --> 0:27:29.119
<v Speaker 1>She goes, he never touched me, and it's like, we

0:27:29.119 --> 0:27:30.879
<v Speaker 1>didn't even ask you about him touching you, so he

0:27:30.960 --> 0:27:34.399
<v Speaker 1>definitely touched you. And she says like, I love my husband,

0:27:34.480 --> 0:27:36.840
<v Speaker 1>go away, leave me alone, and basically like runs away

0:27:36.880 --> 0:27:37.440
<v Speaker 1>from that. Well.

0:27:37.480 --> 0:27:39.720
<v Speaker 2>I wanted to mention, and I know I've mentioned this

0:27:39.760 --> 0:27:43.199
<v Speaker 2>podcast this is actually happening multiple times, but there was

0:27:43.240 --> 0:27:46.080
<v Speaker 2>one woman I've talked.

0:27:45.840 --> 0:27:48.760
<v Speaker 4>About her, but she her dad raped her for years.

0:27:49.160 --> 0:27:52.480
<v Speaker 2>And she was saying, how when you are an immigrant

0:27:52.640 --> 0:27:55.400
<v Speaker 2>or a person of color, like you are raised or

0:27:55.800 --> 0:28:01.240
<v Speaker 2>like an immigrant who needs a green card, raised to

0:28:01.600 --> 0:28:05.000
<v Speaker 2>not trust authority and like not tell anyone anything, so

0:28:05.040 --> 0:28:08.439
<v Speaker 2>when things do happen, you're just like you don't trust

0:28:08.440 --> 0:28:09.320
<v Speaker 2>these people at all.

0:28:09.400 --> 0:28:11.720
<v Speaker 4>Right, ever, of course you're gonna run away.

0:28:11.840 --> 0:28:14.160
<v Speaker 2>I'm sure she was taught like, don't ever fucking talk

0:28:14.200 --> 0:28:15.560
<v Speaker 2>to a uniform person, you know.

0:28:16.200 --> 0:28:21.960
<v Speaker 1>Right, completely, So now we're meeting a third victim Maggie Quigley,

0:28:22.040 --> 0:28:25.880
<v Speaker 1>who is in Iiced Attention. She's Irish, and she explains

0:28:25.920 --> 0:28:29.480
<v Speaker 1>to Kat how her husband and her sailed through four interviews,

0:28:29.560 --> 0:28:32.119
<v Speaker 1>and then O'Toole says he needs to meet with her

0:28:32.200 --> 0:28:34.480
<v Speaker 1>one more time, picks her up in a mini van

0:28:34.520 --> 0:28:37.359
<v Speaker 1>with a mattress in the back, tells her, I'll give

0:28:37.400 --> 0:28:39.680
<v Speaker 1>you a green card and your husband can bang you

0:28:39.720 --> 0:28:42.400
<v Speaker 1>whenever he wants, and then he says I deserve some

0:28:42.520 --> 0:28:46.760
<v Speaker 1>loving too. So now we're like getting the catchphrase? Is

0:28:46.760 --> 0:28:48.400
<v Speaker 1>what is like linking them all? But it's like, we

0:28:48.440 --> 0:28:50.480
<v Speaker 1>all know who this man is. There's records of him

0:28:50.480 --> 0:28:51.840
<v Speaker 1>being with you, so I don't know that we need

0:28:51.840 --> 0:28:54.960
<v Speaker 1>the catchphrase to connect. But so she told him to

0:28:55.040 --> 0:28:57.720
<v Speaker 1>fuck off, and now she's in ICED attention and she

0:28:57.760 --> 0:29:00.400
<v Speaker 1>says she can't testify or her husband will get to

0:29:00.760 --> 0:29:05.920
<v Speaker 1>and he's also on a green card. So Careese is like,

0:29:06.280 --> 0:29:08.320
<v Speaker 1>we can ask the US attorney for a warrant on

0:29:08.360 --> 0:29:10.280
<v Speaker 1>the minivan, but then the FEDS will take the case

0:29:10.280 --> 0:29:12.880
<v Speaker 1>and they won't fight for these women. So Benson comes

0:29:12.920 --> 0:29:16.280
<v Speaker 1>up with the idea, let's create some of our own victims.

0:29:16.360 --> 0:29:18.600
<v Speaker 1>Let's like set up a trap like an undercover op.

0:29:18.920 --> 0:29:21.360
<v Speaker 1>She's got contacts at Homeland Security that can push through

0:29:21.360 --> 0:29:24.400
<v Speaker 1>a visa application or a green card application, and she's

0:29:24.440 --> 0:29:27.440
<v Speaker 1>got other undercover officers who can do it. Cut to

0:29:28.360 --> 0:29:32.120
<v Speaker 1>Rollins and Caldoon quizzing each other on their fake relationship.

0:29:32.920 --> 0:29:34.760
<v Speaker 1>What side of the bed do you sleep on? You

0:29:34.840 --> 0:29:37.520
<v Speaker 1>spoon me? Blah blah blah. It's getting kind of flirty.

0:29:37.560 --> 0:29:39.840
<v Speaker 1>We can see the spark or two flying between these

0:29:39.880 --> 0:29:45.840
<v Speaker 1>two and then enter careesy awkward. He's not quite picking

0:29:45.920 --> 0:29:48.480
<v Speaker 1>up on their sexual chemistry yet, but we are. And

0:29:48.520 --> 0:29:51.160
<v Speaker 1>they sort of roll a plane interview and Coreasey seems

0:29:51.200 --> 0:29:55.960
<v Speaker 1>like pissed off, like how cutesy they're acting. He's like, yeah, yeah, whatever, anyway,

0:29:55.960 --> 0:29:58.360
<v Speaker 1>how'd you two meet? Like it's really funny to see

0:29:58.440 --> 0:30:02.240
<v Speaker 1>him getting jealous over this undercover like role play scenario

0:30:02.280 --> 0:30:06.720
<v Speaker 1>that they're doing. So now the interview sort of segues

0:30:06.760 --> 0:30:09.320
<v Speaker 1>into the real interview. This fake interview turns into the

0:30:09.320 --> 0:30:13.120
<v Speaker 1>real interview where they're talking to O'Toole's talking to cal

0:30:13.200 --> 0:30:15.959
<v Speaker 1>Doon and then Rollins and you know, she's telling him

0:30:15.960 --> 0:30:18.400
<v Speaker 1>what they like to eat and for Valentine's Day, they're

0:30:18.400 --> 0:30:20.800
<v Speaker 1>going to stay home and order food from two different places,

0:30:20.920 --> 0:30:23.120
<v Speaker 1>and he says that's romantic. I say, I could not

0:30:23.200 --> 0:30:26.200
<v Speaker 1>live like that. I could not live with somebody where

0:30:26.200 --> 0:30:28.160
<v Speaker 1>we had to constantly order from two different places because

0:30:28.160 --> 0:30:30.880
<v Speaker 1>our food types were so different. Lisa, it doesn't bother

0:30:30.960 --> 0:30:33.480
<v Speaker 1>me at all. I love ordering from multiple places, even

0:30:33.520 --> 0:30:34.880
<v Speaker 1>if we can all eat the same thing.

0:30:35.880 --> 0:30:38.040
<v Speaker 2>It's like that thing I enjoy. I love ordering sushi

0:30:38.120 --> 0:30:39.200
<v Speaker 2>and pizza in one meal.

0:30:39.600 --> 0:30:42.080
<v Speaker 1>To me, it's like we're double paying the delivery fee.

0:30:42.600 --> 0:30:44.040
<v Speaker 1>I can't abide that.

0:30:44.480 --> 0:30:47.080
<v Speaker 3>As a fiscally frugal Jew.

0:30:47.800 --> 0:30:49.800
<v Speaker 2>I just can't leave the jew nous out of it

0:30:49.840 --> 0:30:52.000
<v Speaker 2>because I'm a Jew and I love spending money. You're

0:30:52.120 --> 0:30:54.600
<v Speaker 2>just a frugal girl on your own.

0:30:54.680 --> 0:30:59.600
<v Speaker 1>Listen, Okay, I'm not saying all Jews are frugal. I'm

0:30:59.600 --> 0:31:03.280
<v Speaker 1>saying I'm frugal Jew, like I just am, Like, why

0:31:03.280 --> 0:31:05.360
<v Speaker 1>would we both order from two different restaurants. There's gonna

0:31:05.360 --> 0:31:07.680
<v Speaker 1>be two different delivery fees, two different tips, two different

0:31:07.720 --> 0:31:09.280
<v Speaker 1>service fees. All that shit.

0:31:09.320 --> 0:31:11.440
<v Speaker 2>Well, because I also do it when we hang out

0:31:11.480 --> 0:31:15.000
<v Speaker 2>as friends, like I've gotten from different places than you before,

0:31:15.200 --> 0:31:16.920
<v Speaker 2>or I'm in the mood for this, I'll just get

0:31:16.920 --> 0:31:19.680
<v Speaker 2>this who cares. We're adults. We all get to eat

0:31:19.720 --> 0:31:22.320
<v Speaker 2>what we want. Yes, we all get to even we want.

0:31:22.320 --> 0:31:24.840
<v Speaker 1>But I'm saying in a romantic relationship where you're like,

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<v Speaker 1>you're ordering food together a lot, and I just don't

0:31:28.640 --> 0:31:31.840
<v Speaker 1>think I could abide that. I I mean, I don't.

0:31:31.640 --> 0:31:34.720
<v Speaker 2>Like when people don't eat seafood. That bothers me. So

0:31:35.040 --> 0:31:36.800
<v Speaker 2>I get that, like if it but.

0:31:37.280 --> 0:31:39.440
<v Speaker 1>Sure, if there's one thing and it's like one sei,

0:31:39.520 --> 0:31:41.280
<v Speaker 1>Like we have a friend who's married to someone allergic

0:31:41.280 --> 0:31:43.640
<v Speaker 1>to seafood, and so sometimes she'll just get seafood with

0:31:43.720 --> 0:31:46.400
<v Speaker 1>us because she can't get it with him. Sure, I'm

0:31:46.440 --> 0:31:49.120
<v Speaker 1>just saying, that's not a romantic Valentine's Day for me.

0:31:49.360 --> 0:31:50.440
<v Speaker 1>Find something on the menu.

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<v Speaker 2>No, for me, the worst part is dating someone that

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<v Speaker 2>would abide by a religion.

0:31:55.160 --> 0:31:56.360
<v Speaker 4>Like that's the problem.

0:31:56.360 --> 0:32:00.239
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, we could get like you'll get Middle Eastern food, all, well,

0:32:00.280 --> 0:32:02.680
<v Speaker 2>I love Middle Easter. There's really nothing I wouldn't get.

0:32:02.840 --> 0:32:06.360
<v Speaker 2>This would have to be this future romantic person. But

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<v Speaker 2>the food is the least problems I would have. Then

0:32:11.520 --> 0:32:14.920
<v Speaker 2>you know, like he's probably doing Ramadan. That seems like

0:32:15.400 --> 0:32:19.120
<v Speaker 2>more hard to deal with than like just ordering different things,

0:32:19.440 --> 0:32:26.480
<v Speaker 2>and he doesn't drink. That's now that's a problem. That's harder, right,

0:32:26.600 --> 0:32:29.440
<v Speaker 2>Like someone that just never ever drinks, like or from

0:32:29.440 --> 0:32:30.320
<v Speaker 2>two different.

0:32:30.040 --> 0:32:32.960
<v Speaker 3>Places is the least of this fake couple's worries.

0:32:33.040 --> 0:32:38.400
<v Speaker 2>You're also like not boozing together, and you're also like, fully,

0:32:39.240 --> 0:32:40.640
<v Speaker 2>is he praying five times a day?

0:32:40.800 --> 0:32:42.800
<v Speaker 3>That's worse to me than a delivery fee.

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<v Speaker 1>Listen, I've seen people be together where one's a drinker

0:32:46.720 --> 0:32:48.440
<v Speaker 1>and one's not, and it seems to work out better

0:32:48.600 --> 0:32:50.400
<v Speaker 1>food to me, seems like it would be a problem.

0:32:50.440 --> 0:32:52.960
<v Speaker 1>But you know what, Lisa, that's part of what makes

0:32:52.960 --> 0:32:58.040
<v Speaker 1>our friendship crackle is that we disagree. So listen, he

0:32:58.160 --> 0:33:00.960
<v Speaker 1>points out, this guy points out that there's an economic

0:33:01.000 --> 0:33:06.480
<v Speaker 1>disparity between Anda, Amanda's fake characters named Mandy and this

0:33:06.520 --> 0:33:10.280
<v Speaker 1>guy's bake character's name is Fawad. So she's like, there's

0:33:10.320 --> 0:33:14.240
<v Speaker 1>an economic disparity between you and Fawad. There's an age difference,

0:33:14.360 --> 0:33:16.440
<v Speaker 1>and there's religious differences. These are all going to be

0:33:16.440 --> 0:33:18.920
<v Speaker 1>red flags. So he's just kind of planting the seed

0:33:18.920 --> 0:33:21.800
<v Speaker 1>with her, like there are red flags in your application,

0:33:21.960 --> 0:33:23.280
<v Speaker 1>just so you know, And he's like, I might need

0:33:23.360 --> 0:33:25.640
<v Speaker 1>to meet you one more time and don't tell Fawad

0:33:25.960 --> 0:33:29.120
<v Speaker 1>so sket we know he's already taken the bait. I

0:33:29.120 --> 0:33:31.680
<v Speaker 1>mean it's Rollin. She's hot, He's going to take the bait.

0:33:32.360 --> 0:33:34.840
<v Speaker 1>He picks up Rollin's in the minivan. You can like

0:33:34.960 --> 0:33:36.880
<v Speaker 1>see the pillows and the mattress in the back like

0:33:36.920 --> 0:33:40.000
<v Speaker 1>it's sick. It's like cover that up with like a

0:33:40.040 --> 0:33:43.440
<v Speaker 1>blanket or something. He wants her to ask her some

0:33:43.480 --> 0:33:46.040
<v Speaker 1>intimate details like how often they have sex like these

0:33:46.040 --> 0:33:48.360
<v Speaker 1>are these would automatically make me flee a call. I

0:33:48.360 --> 0:33:49.880
<v Speaker 1>don't know why you'd even get in a minivan with

0:33:49.920 --> 0:33:54.000
<v Speaker 1>a guy from your citizenship place, but obviously people feel

0:33:54.400 --> 0:33:57.240
<v Speaker 1>they need to do what they have to do. And

0:33:57.320 --> 0:33:59.280
<v Speaker 1>he's basically like, I have something you need, you have

0:33:59.360 --> 0:34:01.240
<v Speaker 1>something I want. I want you to make love to

0:34:01.280 --> 0:34:02.680
<v Speaker 1>me like you do to for wat. I want you

0:34:02.720 --> 0:34:04.000
<v Speaker 1>to do it two or three times and then he

0:34:04.040 --> 0:34:06.520
<v Speaker 1>can have his green card. And Rollins is going, are

0:34:06.520 --> 0:34:08.239
<v Speaker 1>you saying I have to sleep with you? And o'tool

0:34:08.239 --> 0:34:12.000
<v Speaker 1>goes I'm saying I deserve some loving too, again with

0:34:12.600 --> 0:34:16.799
<v Speaker 1>the catchphrase. So then right after like this moment, the

0:34:16.840 --> 0:34:20.759
<v Speaker 1>squad moves in they ARRESTO tool. So now top of

0:34:20.840 --> 0:34:25.160
<v Speaker 1>Act three, we meet defense attorney John Buchanan. We don't meet,

0:34:25.239 --> 0:34:28.040
<v Speaker 1>we're reunited with. We obviously see him all the fucking time.

0:34:28.560 --> 0:34:30.919
<v Speaker 1>He's the worst, but he's a great actor. He's played

0:34:30.920 --> 0:34:33.360
<v Speaker 1>by Delaney Williams. He's like the worst but the best.

0:34:33.400 --> 0:34:34.719
<v Speaker 1>It's like you love him, but you hate him.

0:34:34.800 --> 0:34:37.040
<v Speaker 2>Well, his Twitter bio is like, I'm the guy you

0:34:37.120 --> 0:34:38.440
<v Speaker 2>love to hate exactly.

0:34:38.520 --> 0:34:41.160
<v Speaker 1>He knows exactly, he knows, and he's great, We're gonna

0:34:41.200 --> 0:34:43.000
<v Speaker 1>we gotta get him on this podcast. I love him.

0:34:43.440 --> 0:34:47.000
<v Speaker 1>He's claiming his client's job is to uncover phony marriages

0:34:47.040 --> 0:34:49.880
<v Speaker 1>and then he succeeded. This was a fake marriage, and

0:34:49.920 --> 0:34:52.600
<v Speaker 1>they're like he's been extorting sex in exchange for green

0:34:52.640 --> 0:34:54.919
<v Speaker 1>cards and she's and he's like, no, it was all

0:34:54.960 --> 0:34:58.080
<v Speaker 1>a test. The mattress is just there to keep up

0:34:58.120 --> 0:35:01.440
<v Speaker 1>the ruse. It's like, okay, what, I don't understand how

0:35:01.520 --> 0:35:04.759
<v Speaker 1>anybody would believe this, And Cariese's kind of on our side.

0:35:04.800 --> 0:35:07.359
<v Speaker 1>He's like, no, none of this is DHS protocol and

0:35:07.440 --> 0:35:10.520
<v Speaker 1>jurors will not buy it, so they can't. Really they're

0:35:10.560 --> 0:35:13.239
<v Speaker 1>feeling like their case is not strong enough with basically

0:35:13.280 --> 0:35:16.200
<v Speaker 1>like just the undercover sting, like you don't have any

0:35:16.239 --> 0:35:19.520
<v Speaker 1>of the actual victims that he has assaulted. You know,

0:35:20.000 --> 0:35:22.000
<v Speaker 1>Two of them are afraid of their husband's finding out.

0:35:22.000 --> 0:35:23.799
<v Speaker 1>The third is in iced attention and worried that her

0:35:23.840 --> 0:35:26.120
<v Speaker 1>husband is going to get deported. So Carisey's like, take

0:35:26.120 --> 0:35:28.800
<v Speaker 1>a run at them all again, rollins and kel do

0:35:28.920 --> 0:35:32.120
<v Speaker 1>and go back to Rosamie. She's like, I can't break

0:35:32.239 --> 0:35:35.239
<v Speaker 1>Eddie's heart. Eddie shows up and they pretend that they're

0:35:35.280 --> 0:35:39.200
<v Speaker 1>investigating robberies or whatever. I mean, this sucks.

0:35:40.239 --> 0:35:42.879
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it just sucks like all the way and be like, oh,

0:35:43.000 --> 0:35:46.000
<v Speaker 2>these guys can't find out. It's like if they're Maddie,

0:35:46.160 --> 0:35:49.160
<v Speaker 2>don't you're gonna be mad if someone was assaulted.

0:35:49.320 --> 0:35:53.120
<v Speaker 1>It's just so fucking annoying. It sucks that two of

0:35:53.160 --> 0:35:56.239
<v Speaker 1>these victims are literally placing everything on the fact that

0:35:56.239 --> 0:35:59.040
<v Speaker 1>their husbands are like fragile and can't feel cheated on

0:35:59.160 --> 0:36:01.799
<v Speaker 1>and can't feel abused.

0:36:02.160 --> 0:36:03.640
<v Speaker 4>You've got in the country.

0:36:04.360 --> 0:36:08.799
<v Speaker 1>Yes, you've been fully like sexually assaulted and blackmailed.

0:36:08.960 --> 0:36:11.960
<v Speaker 2>It's like those period machines where guys are like falling

0:36:12.000 --> 0:36:14.160
<v Speaker 2>over and the women are like, I don't feel a thing.

0:36:14.920 --> 0:36:16.680
<v Speaker 1>It's like I just saw a video of that.

0:36:18.840 --> 0:36:22.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's or just like that there was a male

0:36:22.080 --> 0:36:24.239
<v Speaker 2>birth control but there were too many side effects, so

0:36:24.280 --> 0:36:25.440
<v Speaker 2>they stopped working on it.

0:36:25.520 --> 0:36:28.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and it's like, wait, but we have side effects.

0:36:28.320 --> 0:36:31.440
<v Speaker 2>It's just it's crazy that these women are fully being abused.

0:36:31.880 --> 0:36:35.560
<v Speaker 2>Everything's on their shoulders and they're like, my guy's too jealous.

0:36:35.560 --> 0:36:38.080
<v Speaker 1>I can't let him know I was assaulted. It's right,

0:36:38.320 --> 0:36:41.080
<v Speaker 1>or it's like it's honestly, it's like it's like cook culture.

0:36:41.160 --> 0:36:43.719
<v Speaker 1>It's like I can't cook my husband like that, Like

0:36:43.760 --> 0:36:45.759
<v Speaker 1>I can't let him be like a cook when like,

0:36:46.360 --> 0:36:48.759
<v Speaker 1>are you kidding me? Like you are the victim here.

0:36:48.840 --> 0:36:50.360
<v Speaker 1>It's just so fucked up. Anyway.

0:36:50.680 --> 0:36:54.160
<v Speaker 6>One of my favorite Kara Klank jokes is not trusting

0:36:54.200 --> 0:36:55.280
<v Speaker 6>men to take birth control.

0:36:55.400 --> 0:36:57.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, thank thank you, that is one of my jokes.

0:36:57.320 --> 0:36:59.480
<v Speaker 1>It's a great check out my album. Check out my album.

0:36:59.480 --> 0:37:02.040
<v Speaker 1>It's got a good took about how man Handlebert would

0:37:02.040 --> 0:37:02.920
<v Speaker 1>handle birth control.

0:37:04.680 --> 0:37:07.240
<v Speaker 3>Thank you, Hannah. Let's see. Okay.

0:37:07.480 --> 0:37:09.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so it's just like it's just fucked up. So

0:37:09.440 --> 0:37:13.120
<v Speaker 1>now we go to the irishwoman Maggie, and they tell her, like,

0:37:13.400 --> 0:37:15.480
<v Speaker 1>you were concerned about your husband getting deported, but now

0:37:15.560 --> 0:37:18.000
<v Speaker 1>that O'Toole is under indictment. He's his hands are tied

0:37:18.000 --> 0:37:19.640
<v Speaker 1>and he would not be able to touch your husband.

0:37:19.960 --> 0:37:22.280
<v Speaker 1>So she's like, Okay, let's do it. I'll get this visa.

0:37:22.280 --> 0:37:25.359
<v Speaker 1>I'll be able to stay here. Great though her testimony.

0:37:25.680 --> 0:37:27.680
<v Speaker 1>What I was thinking is like her testimony is not

0:37:27.760 --> 0:37:30.480
<v Speaker 1>as damning because he never had sex with her, like

0:37:30.520 --> 0:37:33.040
<v Speaker 1>she rejected him, so he could always make up some

0:37:33.080 --> 0:37:36.200
<v Speaker 1>other reason why she's getting deported. So I thought, I

0:37:36.200 --> 0:37:38.640
<v Speaker 1>don't think she's necessarily the greatest witness. I think they

0:37:38.640 --> 0:37:40.680
<v Speaker 1>definitely need to one or two of the other women,

0:37:41.280 --> 0:37:44.120
<v Speaker 1>and she seems hesitant to let them talk to Patrick.

0:37:44.280 --> 0:37:46.920
<v Speaker 1>So then we find out why Finn and Kat go

0:37:46.960 --> 0:37:50.280
<v Speaker 1>to Patrick's place and he's got a little surprise guest,

0:37:50.719 --> 0:37:53.279
<v Speaker 1>a shirtless little cutie right out of the shower, being like,

0:37:53.360 --> 0:37:57.319
<v Speaker 1>is that the takeout babe? So it turns out that

0:37:58.200 --> 0:38:01.080
<v Speaker 1>Patrick is gay, Maggie is gay. They are just Beard

0:38:01.120 --> 0:38:03.680
<v Speaker 1>City for each other, and they are just both trying

0:38:03.680 --> 0:38:06.600
<v Speaker 1>to get green cards. I don't really know why their marriage,

0:38:06.680 --> 0:38:08.799
<v Speaker 1>why they need to be married to each other, yes,

0:38:08.840 --> 0:38:11.840
<v Speaker 1>since they both need they both need green cards, So

0:38:11.920 --> 0:38:14.319
<v Speaker 1>I don't really know where the logic is there that's

0:38:14.360 --> 0:38:17.000
<v Speaker 1>a plot hole. Yeah, why would you need to pretend

0:38:17.040 --> 0:38:19.359
<v Speaker 1>to be straight and marry each other? Are they giving

0:38:19.400 --> 0:38:21.279
<v Speaker 1>green cards to people that are married more? I don't

0:38:21.280 --> 0:38:24.960
<v Speaker 1>really know. If you know, please tell us. Benson is

0:38:25.040 --> 0:38:27.960
<v Speaker 1>talking to Lena at some chucky cheese esque place and

0:38:28.000 --> 0:38:30.000
<v Speaker 1>she's like, well, I'm glad that you arrested O'Toole, but

0:38:30.040 --> 0:38:32.720
<v Speaker 1>my husband is like in full paranoia mode. He's text

0:38:32.920 --> 0:38:36.040
<v Speaker 1>looking at my texts. He's constantly asking me if I'm

0:38:36.120 --> 0:38:40.000
<v Speaker 1>cheating on him, like I'm stressed. He's following me. He's like,

0:38:40.160 --> 0:38:42.279
<v Speaker 1>you know, I can't let him know about this, and

0:38:42.320 --> 0:38:45.400
<v Speaker 1>Benson's like, Benson notices she has a welt on her face,

0:38:45.640 --> 0:38:48.440
<v Speaker 1>and so we are getting the idea also that Lina's husband,

0:38:48.480 --> 0:38:50.880
<v Speaker 1>Joe is bad, like he has hit her and he

0:38:51.000 --> 0:38:55.359
<v Speaker 1>is controlling and abusive. Benson tells her we can get

0:38:55.360 --> 0:38:57.480
<v Speaker 1>you a uvisa, which means you don't have to stay

0:38:57.520 --> 0:39:00.719
<v Speaker 1>married to Joe, like a UV for a victim of

0:39:00.760 --> 0:39:02.760
<v Speaker 1>a crime. You don't have to stay married to Joe.

0:39:03.400 --> 0:39:06.440
<v Speaker 1>And then she's like, she seems torn, but she's ultimately like,

0:39:06.480 --> 0:39:08.319
<v Speaker 1>I can't keep living like this and I'm just going

0:39:08.360 --> 0:39:11.080
<v Speaker 1>to testify, So that seems like a way we've got Lena.

0:39:11.560 --> 0:39:15.720
<v Speaker 1>So Rosamy's out, Maggie's Maggie Quigley's marriage was a sham,

0:39:16.360 --> 0:39:19.640
<v Speaker 1>and uh, now we've got at least we've got Lena.

0:39:19.760 --> 0:39:22.560
<v Speaker 1>And Hadid is apparently not Vanessa. Hadid, who we don't

0:39:22.560 --> 0:39:25.120
<v Speaker 1>see in this episode, but she is referenced, is not

0:39:25.280 --> 0:39:28.719
<v Speaker 1>backing down on this case. His lawyer suggested some kind

0:39:28.719 --> 0:39:31.000
<v Speaker 1>of misconduct slap on the risk charge, and she was like,

0:39:31.040 --> 0:39:31.440
<v Speaker 1>fuck that.

0:39:31.760 --> 0:39:34.600
<v Speaker 2>Which is weird because Hadida is so like, yeah, in

0:39:34.640 --> 0:39:35.879
<v Speaker 2>love with the establishment.

0:39:36.480 --> 0:39:38.120
<v Speaker 1>Well she I think she's in love with like kind

0:39:38.160 --> 0:39:40.440
<v Speaker 1>of closing things out, and like this could have just

0:39:40.520 --> 0:39:42.399
<v Speaker 1>been closed out with this little stop on the risk.

0:39:42.440 --> 0:39:45.399
<v Speaker 1>But I don't know. I guess in absentia they're trying

0:39:45.440 --> 0:39:47.880
<v Speaker 1>to make her seem like she's more for the victims.

0:39:48.760 --> 0:39:52.000
<v Speaker 1>So she wants a minimum of rape three, felony misconduct

0:39:52.000 --> 0:39:55.920
<v Speaker 1>and receiving a bribe. Liv argues that threatening to return

0:39:55.960 --> 0:40:00.400
<v Speaker 1>them to their countries where they face violence supports forcible pulsion,

0:40:00.480 --> 0:40:03.319
<v Speaker 1>which is rape one. So Crisy argues, that's kind of

0:40:03.320 --> 0:40:06.080
<v Speaker 1>a harder case to make. So they're really counting on

0:40:06.160 --> 0:40:08.520
<v Speaker 1>Lena to be there, like make sure she shows up.

0:40:08.800 --> 0:40:11.319
<v Speaker 1>And whenever they say make sure she shows up, that's

0:40:11.360 --> 0:40:14.279
<v Speaker 1>an sview guarantee that they ain't gonna show up or

0:40:14.320 --> 0:40:16.719
<v Speaker 1>something is going to go wrong. So they're now in

0:40:16.800 --> 0:40:20.239
<v Speaker 1>court and Dwayne is testifying, saying that the women that

0:40:20.280 --> 0:40:24.160
<v Speaker 1>O'Toole requested were young, attractive, diverse, and desperate. These are

0:40:24.200 --> 0:40:26.520
<v Speaker 1>the women that he requested their files be pulled and

0:40:26.560 --> 0:40:29.520
<v Speaker 1>they were all terrified of being deported. And he called

0:40:29.520 --> 0:40:32.839
<v Speaker 1>it his baskin Robin's file one in every flavor. That's

0:40:32.880 --> 0:40:35.320
<v Speaker 1>a very like nineteen nineties joke.

0:40:35.239 --> 0:40:35.399
<v Speaker 7>But.

0:40:36.880 --> 0:40:37.560
<v Speaker 4>I'll allow it.

0:40:38.320 --> 0:40:42.600
<v Speaker 1>The judge is Judge Felicia Catano, who is played by

0:40:42.800 --> 0:40:46.000
<v Speaker 1>Ada Torturo, who has appeared in a dozen svups as

0:40:46.000 --> 0:40:49.520
<v Speaker 1>this character and is known for playing Janis Soprano. I've

0:40:49.520 --> 0:40:51.399
<v Speaker 1>never watched the Sopranos, but that is her big role

0:40:51.440 --> 0:40:55.160
<v Speaker 1>that she's known for. This judge U canon makes it

0:40:55.200 --> 0:40:58.319
<v Speaker 1>seem like Dwayne is making up the story to save

0:40:58.360 --> 0:41:01.040
<v Speaker 1>his own ass, because he brings up that the guy

0:41:01.040 --> 0:41:06.640
<v Speaker 1>got busted for you know, cereal groping. So then Caldoon testifies,

0:41:07.200 --> 0:41:10.520
<v Speaker 1>Rollins testifies basically, Buchanan's just being a piece of shit

0:41:10.600 --> 0:41:14.600
<v Speaker 1>the whole time, and like trying to imply that O'Toole

0:41:15.080 --> 0:41:18.200
<v Speaker 1>was really just trying to trick Rollins into cheating on

0:41:18.239 --> 0:41:22.600
<v Speaker 1>her husband to prove that the marriage is a scam.

0:41:22.800 --> 0:41:26.560
<v Speaker 1>Outside the courtroom, Lena shows up, so she does show up,

0:41:26.920 --> 0:41:29.600
<v Speaker 1>but she will not show out. Lena tells Benson that

0:41:29.640 --> 0:41:32.960
<v Speaker 1>she cannot testify that she just found out she's pregnant,

0:41:33.160 --> 0:41:35.400
<v Speaker 1>and she's like, I'm praying the baby looks like Joe.

0:41:35.480 --> 0:41:39.120
<v Speaker 1>My baby needs a father. If Joe thinks it's o'tools baby,

0:41:39.560 --> 0:41:41.759
<v Speaker 1>she like doesn't know what he's going to do. So

0:41:41.840 --> 0:41:44.359
<v Speaker 1>she's out, and you can kind of feel for her.

0:41:44.520 --> 0:41:46.719
<v Speaker 1>I guess on that, like there's one thing to stay

0:41:46.760 --> 0:41:48.520
<v Speaker 1>in the country and be able to live your life,

0:41:48.520 --> 0:41:51.160
<v Speaker 1>but to support a child on your own when you

0:41:51.200 --> 0:41:53.880
<v Speaker 1>have no support system and you can't go back to

0:41:53.920 --> 0:41:55.600
<v Speaker 1>your home country. I can kind of see why she

0:41:55.600 --> 0:41:57.040
<v Speaker 1>doesn't want to testify.

0:41:57.080 --> 0:41:59.880
<v Speaker 4>But also I hope she leaves this husband.

0:42:00.280 --> 0:42:03.520
<v Speaker 1>Yes, I do too, Yeah, I do doo, I do too, because.

0:42:03.280 --> 0:42:06.280
<v Speaker 2>This is also showing like the desperation and fucked upness

0:42:06.280 --> 0:42:09.360
<v Speaker 2>where it's like she's also stuck in this marriage. She

0:42:09.400 --> 0:42:11.319
<v Speaker 2>probably doesn't really want to be in so she can

0:42:11.360 --> 0:42:14.800
<v Speaker 2>stay here. It's not like she's living this awesome life

0:42:14.840 --> 0:42:15.560
<v Speaker 2>she's dreamt of.

0:42:16.080 --> 0:42:20.240
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, true. So Cariese asks for continuance, the judge

0:42:20.239 --> 0:42:23.400
<v Speaker 1>gives him till nine am tomorrow, classic SVU time crunch.

0:42:24.600 --> 0:42:26.719
<v Speaker 1>Buchanan goes and at that time, I'll be moving for

0:42:26.760 --> 0:42:29.239
<v Speaker 1>a dismissal and the judge is like slower role, like

0:42:29.280 --> 0:42:32.319
<v Speaker 1>I really love her. She doesn't really let Buchanan get

0:42:32.320 --> 0:42:35.400
<v Speaker 1>away with shit, and Buchanan then says to Carisi should

0:42:35.400 --> 0:42:38.319
<v Speaker 1>have taken the deal, Detective Careesi. And this is when

0:42:38.360 --> 0:42:41.000
<v Speaker 1>you know that Cariese's gonna win because like there's just

0:42:41.040 --> 0:42:43.319
<v Speaker 1>no way they're going to let him disrespect him like that,

0:42:43.840 --> 0:42:46.040
<v Speaker 1>Like the episode's going to end, like you know, Caresee

0:42:46.160 --> 0:42:48.840
<v Speaker 1>is going to come out on top. So Rollins and

0:42:48.920 --> 0:42:52.360
<v Speaker 1>kel Doun are chatting and he's like, let's try Rosami

0:42:52.440 --> 0:42:55.120
<v Speaker 1>Klin one more time, and kel Dune's like, I can

0:42:55.160 --> 0:42:57.200
<v Speaker 1>talk to Eddie Jue to jew So it turns out

0:42:57.239 --> 0:43:00.240
<v Speaker 1>he's Jewish on his mom's side, Muslim on his dad's side.

0:43:00.800 --> 0:43:03.800
<v Speaker 1>They go to Rosami's apartment. She opens the door and

0:43:03.880 --> 0:43:06.480
<v Speaker 1>there's it's kind of heartwarming, but it's also this like

0:43:06.560 --> 0:43:09.640
<v Speaker 1>way too much scene where like Eddie and the daughter

0:43:09.680 --> 0:43:12.560
<v Speaker 1>are at the piano like playing a song together, and

0:43:12.600 --> 0:43:15.720
<v Speaker 1>it's like it's very cute, see and then Caldoon starts

0:43:15.719 --> 0:43:18.719
<v Speaker 1>speaking Hebrew to Eddie and he's like, all right, let

0:43:18.760 --> 0:43:20.759
<v Speaker 1>him in. And it's like, Eddie seems like a nice guy.

0:43:20.800 --> 0:43:22.560
<v Speaker 1>I feel like he would have just let you in.

0:43:22.600 --> 0:43:25.440
<v Speaker 1>But the Hebrew is what really also the opposite if someone.

0:43:25.200 --> 0:43:27.319
<v Speaker 2>Came to my door speaking Russian, I would I would

0:43:27.360 --> 0:43:28.960
<v Speaker 2>slam the door so fast in their face.

0:43:30.960 --> 0:43:32.880
<v Speaker 3>That would be the opposite effect for me.

0:43:33.560 --> 0:43:36.280
<v Speaker 1>That's so funny. That's really funny.

0:43:36.280 --> 0:43:39.840
<v Speaker 2>Why it's suspicious? Get out of here. What are you

0:43:39.920 --> 0:43:41.840
<v Speaker 2>trying to trick me with our commonalities?

0:43:41.920 --> 0:43:42.520
<v Speaker 1>You know what I mean?

0:43:42.760 --> 0:43:44.520
<v Speaker 2>Like, oh, you're trying to relate to me. So I

0:43:44.520 --> 0:43:46.200
<v Speaker 2>got my guard down so you can fuck with me?

0:43:46.320 --> 0:43:48.000
<v Speaker 2>I don't think so.

0:43:48.000 --> 0:43:50.920
<v Speaker 1>So Rollins goes into like the Rollins is in the

0:43:50.920 --> 0:43:53.359
<v Speaker 1>bedroom talking to Rosamie with her cute little daughter sitting

0:43:53.400 --> 0:43:55.520
<v Speaker 1>on her lap. She's really sweet, and I would tell

0:43:55.560 --> 0:43:58.000
<v Speaker 1>the daughter like, why don't you step outside while we

0:43:58.040 --> 0:44:00.239
<v Speaker 1>talk about, like go read a little bit. I'll go

0:44:00.280 --> 0:44:02.280
<v Speaker 1>play with a doll and instead, she's just like sitting

0:44:02.320 --> 0:44:05.000
<v Speaker 1>on her lap, like staring at Rollins while Rollins is like,

0:44:05.400 --> 0:44:08.959
<v Speaker 1>we need you to testify. And then cal Dune sits

0:44:09.000 --> 0:44:11.960
<v Speaker 1>down with Eddie and Eddie kind of explains the backstory

0:44:11.960 --> 0:44:13.960
<v Speaker 1>that he was a wedding pianist and Rosemye was a

0:44:14.080 --> 0:44:16.440
<v Speaker 1>wedding caterer and they met and fell in love and

0:44:16.480 --> 0:44:19.000
<v Speaker 1>she converted to Judaism and they have this beautiful baby.

0:44:19.280 --> 0:44:22.160
<v Speaker 1>And then he starts telling this hypothetical story cal Doon

0:44:22.239 --> 0:44:25.160
<v Speaker 1>about how you know a man and a woman have

0:44:25.200 --> 0:44:27.920
<v Speaker 1>a beautiful life. But then and it's just this, it's

0:44:27.920 --> 0:44:30.960
<v Speaker 1>this kind of this like silly storytelling thing where it's like,

0:44:30.960 --> 0:44:33.520
<v Speaker 1>why can't you just fucking tell him what's up, like

0:44:33.880 --> 0:44:37.600
<v Speaker 1>because we're trying to protect men's like fragile egos. But

0:44:37.719 --> 0:44:39.400
<v Speaker 1>Eddie knews immediately.

0:44:39.000 --> 0:44:41.840
<v Speaker 2>So like they kind of trick us with like the

0:44:42.120 --> 0:44:45.440
<v Speaker 2>Lena's husband being a shithead and Roseamy being so scared

0:44:45.440 --> 0:44:47.880
<v Speaker 2>about her husband's reactions, we kind of expect him to

0:44:47.880 --> 0:44:50.480
<v Speaker 2>also be a jerk. Like the whole episode, I'm hating

0:44:50.520 --> 0:44:53.200
<v Speaker 2>this guy. I'm like, fuck this guy, and he's actually

0:44:53.640 --> 0:44:55.200
<v Speaker 2>he's a guy.

0:44:55.280 --> 0:44:59.799
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he's a wedding pianist, so like, yeah, they're there.

0:45:00.040 --> 0:45:01.960
<v Speaker 1>He seems sweet, and it feels like he had to

0:45:02.000 --> 0:45:04.560
<v Speaker 1>go through all this like a storytelling to get to it,

0:45:04.600 --> 0:45:06.480
<v Speaker 1>but he could have just said, like, look, this is

0:45:06.680 --> 0:45:09.279
<v Speaker 1>this is the situation and Eddie knows immediately he goes

0:45:09.320 --> 0:45:12.200
<v Speaker 1>does this story involve O'Toole, And then we cut to

0:45:12.280 --> 0:45:16.560
<v Speaker 1>court and Cariese says he plans to call Maggie quickly.

0:45:16.719 --> 0:45:20.040
<v Speaker 1>I don't understand why, because she's completely not credible now

0:45:20.280 --> 0:45:23.799
<v Speaker 1>that she was faking her. If I was Buchanan, you'd

0:45:23.800 --> 0:45:26.719
<v Speaker 1>be like, you're the reason you're at iced attention is

0:45:26.719 --> 0:45:30.560
<v Speaker 1>because you lied about being in this marriage again, why

0:45:30.640 --> 0:45:34.600
<v Speaker 1>is she marrying another person without a green card to

0:45:34.640 --> 0:45:37.640
<v Speaker 1>get a green card? We found a hole. But then

0:45:37.719 --> 0:45:40.040
<v Speaker 1>he says, and I plan to call Rosami Klein. And

0:45:40.120 --> 0:45:43.719
<v Speaker 1>on that note, Roseamy walks in the doors like a champion.

0:45:44.480 --> 0:45:47.279
<v Speaker 1>Rollin's is whether it's like it looks really it's just

0:45:47.360 --> 0:45:50.319
<v Speaker 1>really like she's this slight little woman with like big

0:45:50.360 --> 0:45:52.839
<v Speaker 1>glasses and she's there like fuck you dog, like I'm

0:45:52.880 --> 0:45:56.080
<v Speaker 1>here to put you away, and you can see O'Toole's

0:45:56.120 --> 0:45:58.640
<v Speaker 1>face just kind of like melts, and like he kind

0:45:58.640 --> 0:46:03.040
<v Speaker 1>of knows he's got God, and Caresey says, o'tool's gonna fold,

0:46:03.040 --> 0:46:06.400
<v Speaker 1>and Olivia goes make it hurt, all right, Benson. And

0:46:06.440 --> 0:46:08.520
<v Speaker 1>then the next morning, if you can in an, o'tool

0:46:08.560 --> 0:46:12.719
<v Speaker 1>show up at Crisy's office and Caresee's like, I'm gonna

0:46:12.719 --> 0:46:15.920
<v Speaker 1>bump the charges up. And then O'Toole really reveals himself

0:46:15.960 --> 0:46:17.640
<v Speaker 1>to not only be a rapist, but to be a

0:46:17.640 --> 0:46:20.080
<v Speaker 1>full racist. He's like, I'm on the front lines of

0:46:20.080 --> 0:46:23.600
<v Speaker 1>a foreign invasion. I'm protecting our borders. He's like essentially

0:46:23.640 --> 0:46:26.399
<v Speaker 1>a proud boy, like he's even grosser than we thought

0:46:26.400 --> 0:46:28.400
<v Speaker 1>he was before. It's like you took a night to

0:46:28.440 --> 0:46:30.239
<v Speaker 1>sleep on it, and you decided to come to the

0:46:30.320 --> 0:46:34.319
<v Speaker 1>DA and tell him how actually horrible you are. Great strategy,

0:46:35.239 --> 0:46:37.520
<v Speaker 1>so we get we actually get a really great monologue

0:46:37.520 --> 0:46:41.000
<v Speaker 1>from Caresey here, like he has a really good chunk

0:46:41.040 --> 0:46:43.400
<v Speaker 1>of dialogue here that is really really great. And then

0:46:43.440 --> 0:46:45.480
<v Speaker 1>at the end he's just like, they came here hoping

0:46:45.480 --> 0:46:47.960
<v Speaker 1>for the American dream and you made their lives a nightmare.

0:46:48.280 --> 0:46:53.520
<v Speaker 1>So it's a very New York accent heavy monologue. And

0:46:53.560 --> 0:46:58.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm liking Caresey in this monologue. So eventually O'Toole takes

0:46:58.560 --> 0:47:03.320
<v Speaker 1>the deal. He gets rap three three counts for each victim,

0:47:03.360 --> 0:47:05.200
<v Speaker 1>and he's going to prison for fifteen years.

0:47:05.680 --> 0:47:07.600
<v Speaker 4>Hell yeah, I wonder what happened to Dwayne.

0:47:07.760 --> 0:47:11.400
<v Speaker 1>I hope Dwayne got something. Because subway gropers can just

0:47:11.480 --> 0:47:13.239
<v Speaker 1>literally fuck off. They're disgusting.

0:47:13.320 --> 0:47:15.680
<v Speaker 2>Well that's the big issue. When people are like, oh,

0:47:15.760 --> 0:47:17.480
<v Speaker 2>it's not that big of a dealer. There needs to

0:47:17.480 --> 0:47:19.480
<v Speaker 2>be levels, or there's a gray area, or come on,

0:47:19.520 --> 0:47:22.320
<v Speaker 2>why are you complaining, It's like because they're creeps and

0:47:22.320 --> 0:47:23.440
<v Speaker 2>they want to do it all the time. They know

0:47:23.480 --> 0:47:24.920
<v Speaker 2>they're going to get away with it, and that's what

0:47:25.000 --> 0:47:27.160
<v Speaker 2>makes them want to keep doing it, you know what

0:47:27.239 --> 0:47:31.520
<v Speaker 2>I mean, Like every little thing, every lower back touch matters. Yeah,

0:47:31.640 --> 0:47:33.160
<v Speaker 2>and if you think that they're going to be they're

0:47:33.160 --> 0:47:35.200
<v Speaker 2>going to settle for a lower back touch, No, they're

0:47:35.200 --> 0:47:37.359
<v Speaker 2>going to move on to a denim grinding. Then they're

0:47:37.360 --> 0:47:40.200
<v Speaker 2>going to move on to a fucking fully like groping

0:47:40.239 --> 0:47:41.120
<v Speaker 2>someone in an alley.

0:47:41.160 --> 0:47:42.880
<v Speaker 1>Like it's only going to escalate for a lot of

0:47:42.920 --> 0:47:47.480
<v Speaker 1>these guys, you know. Anyway, Careese is like in the

0:47:47.520 --> 0:47:52.040
<v Speaker 1>station telling Benson everything, and he gives Rolins like full

0:47:52.120 --> 0:47:54.520
<v Speaker 1>credit for getting Rosamy to testify see this.

0:47:54.480 --> 0:47:55.600
<v Speaker 4>Makes sympathetic again.

0:47:55.680 --> 0:47:59.160
<v Speaker 2>You know, we're like, fuck, yeah, great monologue, careesy, sexy, sexy.

0:47:59.200 --> 0:48:01.160
<v Speaker 2>And then it's like, ah, Rob, I don't know why.

0:48:01.280 --> 0:48:04.120
<v Speaker 2>It's like, oh, come on, she doesn't like you.

0:48:04.000 --> 0:48:06.640
<v Speaker 1>Like, come on, yeah, bro. He basically is trying to

0:48:06.640 --> 0:48:09.200
<v Speaker 1>give Rowlands all the credit, and Benson is like, actually,

0:48:09.239 --> 0:48:10.840
<v Speaker 1>cal Doone is the one that got the husband to

0:48:10.920 --> 0:48:14.400
<v Speaker 1>understand by speaking Hebrew, and he's like he's just hates

0:48:14.440 --> 0:48:16.640
<v Speaker 1>the praise that people are giving cal Doon and he's

0:48:16.640 --> 0:48:19.280
<v Speaker 1>mad about it. And then Chrisy goes where is Rollins

0:48:19.320 --> 0:48:22.040
<v Speaker 1>And Benson's like, fuck if I know, I'm busy, And

0:48:22.080 --> 0:48:25.120
<v Speaker 1>then they cut to Caldun and Rollin's on a little

0:48:25.200 --> 0:48:28.640
<v Speaker 1>date together at Rosmy's FA restaurant that they were at

0:48:28.640 --> 0:48:32.680
<v Speaker 1>to originally to find her. They tell her basically, O'Toole's

0:48:32.680 --> 0:48:34.600
<v Speaker 1>going to prison. He's going to jail for fifteen years.

0:48:34.640 --> 0:48:36.320
<v Speaker 1>I mean he's absolutely going to be in the Arian

0:48:36.440 --> 0:48:39.000
<v Speaker 1>nation there right, Like that's he's going to have full

0:48:39.120 --> 0:48:43.799
<v Speaker 1>Hitler tattoos in like ten minutes, and Roseamy says that

0:48:44.040 --> 0:48:46.040
<v Speaker 1>her and Eddie talked for a really long time. He's

0:48:46.040 --> 0:48:48.120
<v Speaker 1>so sad what I had to go through, Like everything's

0:48:48.200 --> 0:48:50.880
<v Speaker 1>better now, better than before. We have no more secrets,

0:48:51.239 --> 0:48:54.160
<v Speaker 1>and I kind of love SVU making marriages stronger. It's nice.

0:48:54.560 --> 0:48:59.560
<v Speaker 1>And then touched by her words, Rollin touches Caldoon's hand

0:49:00.000 --> 0:49:01.200
<v Speaker 1>and you can kind of see that these two are

0:49:01.200 --> 0:49:02.080
<v Speaker 1>really hot for each other.

0:49:03.040 --> 0:49:05.400
<v Speaker 2>And then Dick Wolf, I know, but then we never

0:49:05.600 --> 0:49:08.880
<v Speaker 2>see the romance agat, like even in currency there's like

0:49:09.000 --> 0:49:12.240
<v Speaker 2>maybe flirting, but it's like they have hands.

0:49:12.280 --> 0:49:13.080
<v Speaker 4>Where's this going?

0:49:14.120 --> 0:49:17.200
<v Speaker 1>He just came back in an episode this season where

0:49:17.239 --> 0:49:19.880
<v Speaker 1>he brought her cough this current season that's on television

0:49:19.960 --> 0:49:23.320
<v Speaker 1>right now, or season twenty two that just ended actually,

0:49:23.640 --> 0:49:27.200
<v Speaker 1>and you can still see the flirtation there. But yeah,

0:49:27.200 --> 0:49:30.200
<v Speaker 1>we don't see all games. Slow game. Yeah, they'll decide

0:49:30.239 --> 0:49:31.799
<v Speaker 1>whether they're going to bring that guy back for a

0:49:31.800 --> 0:49:34.120
<v Speaker 1>lot more, whether they're going to like give everybody the

0:49:34.719 --> 0:49:38.879
<v Speaker 1>release see love that they want. But anyway, let's take

0:49:38.920 --> 0:49:41.480
<v Speaker 1>a quick break and then I'm excited for you to

0:49:41.520 --> 0:49:44.279
<v Speaker 1>tell me. I mean excited. I'm interested for you to

0:49:44.320 --> 0:49:48.000
<v Speaker 1>tell me about the horrible people who do these crimes

0:49:48.040 --> 0:49:55.360
<v Speaker 1>in real life.

0:50:03.880 --> 0:50:07.280
<v Speaker 2>All right, we are back and we're gonna talk about

0:50:07.320 --> 0:50:09.600
<v Speaker 2>the cases that inspired this episode.

0:50:09.719 --> 0:50:10.919
<v Speaker 1>There's a couple of them.

0:50:11.640 --> 0:50:16.920
<v Speaker 2>I just wanted to give background on ICE immigration and

0:50:17.000 --> 0:50:20.960
<v Speaker 2>customs enforcement, and that was only formed March first, two

0:50:20.960 --> 0:50:23.200
<v Speaker 2>thousand and three, and it was like a reactionary thing

0:50:23.320 --> 0:50:26.160
<v Speaker 2>to nine to eleven. And I just don't want anyone

0:50:26.200 --> 0:50:28.359
<v Speaker 2>to be confused that it is not.

0:50:29.200 --> 0:50:31.320
<v Speaker 4>ICE does not patrol American borders.

0:50:32.440 --> 0:50:35.879
<v Speaker 2>That is done by United States Border Patrol and US

0:50:35.920 --> 0:50:37.320
<v Speaker 2>Customs and Border Protections.

0:50:37.320 --> 0:50:38.839
<v Speaker 1>They're like sister agencies.

0:50:38.880 --> 0:50:42.600
<v Speaker 2>But ICE is a completely separate thing because the border

0:50:42.640 --> 0:50:46.439
<v Speaker 2>patrol people have obviously a lot of bad things and

0:50:46.960 --> 0:50:50.279
<v Speaker 2>sexual abuse and child human trafficking and a lot of

0:50:50.320 --> 0:50:53.600
<v Speaker 2>things happening. In so many articles and other sview episodes

0:50:54.160 --> 0:50:57.439
<v Speaker 2>based on horrific things happening at the border, but these

0:50:57.440 --> 0:51:01.400
<v Speaker 2>are separate horrific things. So just one to give that background.

0:51:01.600 --> 0:51:04.279
<v Speaker 2>And before we get into it, ICE sucks. I want

0:51:04.320 --> 0:51:07.800
<v Speaker 2>ICE shut down. And it's one of those things where

0:51:07.880 --> 0:51:10.359
<v Speaker 2>when people are like, oh, but it's always been here,

0:51:10.400 --> 0:51:12.840
<v Speaker 2>it hasn't, you know what I mean? If Ice was

0:51:12.880 --> 0:51:17.160
<v Speaker 2>a human, it couldn't get into a bar. Okay, this

0:51:17.360 --> 0:51:20.200
<v Speaker 2>idea that we like give you know, oh, but it's

0:51:20.320 --> 0:51:22.720
<v Speaker 2>part of our thing and it's like, nah, I wasn't

0:51:22.840 --> 0:51:25.600
<v Speaker 2>and we should see a system outside of it, and

0:51:25.600 --> 0:51:28.440
<v Speaker 2>say when we think about like police where it's like

0:51:28.480 --> 0:51:30.840
<v Speaker 2>we just because it's been here, we see it, like

0:51:30.880 --> 0:51:32.840
<v Speaker 2>we can't have a world without it and we have

0:51:32.920 --> 0:51:34.000
<v Speaker 2>to expand our brains.

0:51:34.160 --> 0:51:35.000
<v Speaker 1>So just a.

0:51:34.960 --> 0:51:38.040
<v Speaker 4>Little minister session right there.

0:51:39.680 --> 0:51:44.839
<v Speaker 2>But okay, So also with researching this, it was like

0:51:44.960 --> 0:51:50.560
<v Speaker 2>so hard to find anything past the initial charges, and like,

0:51:52.000 --> 0:51:55.880
<v Speaker 2>I think it's because these people were within Ice that

0:51:56.160 --> 0:51:59.359
<v Speaker 2>it's like controlled as fuck and they're not give It's

0:51:59.400 --> 0:52:01.279
<v Speaker 2>like if something happened in the army.

0:52:01.160 --> 0:52:03.400
<v Speaker 1>You know, like yeah, I was even trying to find

0:52:03.440 --> 0:52:07.600
<v Speaker 1>photos of them for like our social media little posters

0:52:07.600 --> 0:52:11.160
<v Speaker 1>that we do, and like there's nothing, Like, yeah.

0:52:10.480 --> 0:52:12.920
<v Speaker 2>There's another. So there's two guys. So it's based on

0:52:12.960 --> 0:52:15.759
<v Speaker 2>two cases. One is John Jacob's Olivas and then the

0:52:15.800 --> 0:52:20.200
<v Speaker 2>next one is Wilfredo Rodriguez. And there is another Wilfredo

0:52:20.280 --> 0:52:22.799
<v Speaker 2>Rodriguez who did steal a car and I found his

0:52:22.840 --> 0:52:28.600
<v Speaker 2>photo but different, different, different, But yeah, it was like

0:52:28.800 --> 0:52:31.200
<v Speaker 2>really hard to find anything, and I think it's just

0:52:31.280 --> 0:52:33.719
<v Speaker 2>because it's the government and they want to keep all

0:52:33.760 --> 0:52:38.440
<v Speaker 2>of this under wraps. So the John Jacobs Alivas case

0:52:38.600 --> 0:52:43.239
<v Speaker 2>and twenty eighteen, he sexually assaulted two women and told

0:52:43.280 --> 0:52:46.080
<v Speaker 2>them both that the police wouldn't do anything about it

0:52:46.160 --> 0:52:49.760
<v Speaker 2>because he's a special agent at ICE. So one woman

0:52:50.120 --> 0:52:53.400
<v Speaker 2>was assaulted in January twenty twelve, and then the next

0:52:53.400 --> 0:52:56.560
<v Speaker 2>woman was assaulted in September and November of that year.

0:52:57.160 --> 0:53:00.279
<v Speaker 2>He pleaded not guilty to three counts of deprivation of

0:53:00.400 --> 0:53:02.160
<v Speaker 2>rights under color of law.

0:53:03.040 --> 0:53:03.959
<v Speaker 1>What does that mean?

0:53:04.480 --> 0:53:08.840
<v Speaker 2>I think it's like, you know, if like your corrections officer,

0:53:08.840 --> 0:53:10.520
<v Speaker 2>and you're raping an inmate, It's like.

0:53:10.800 --> 0:53:13.799
<v Speaker 1>It's like using your position, using your position, like.

0:53:14.440 --> 0:53:18.600
<v Speaker 2>It's no matter what if someone's incarcerated under your control

0:53:18.719 --> 0:53:21.960
<v Speaker 2>or in trouble, or you're a governmental agency, like it's

0:53:22.080 --> 0:53:25.719
<v Speaker 2>automatically assault because you have full control over them. And

0:53:25.840 --> 0:53:29.680
<v Speaker 2>he is a current inmate at Chuckawalla Valley State Prison

0:53:29.760 --> 0:53:34.080
<v Speaker 2>in California. Okay, so he got some jail time, I guess,

0:53:34.120 --> 0:53:37.480
<v Speaker 2>but I'm also scared, Like it's an official like the

0:53:37.520 --> 0:53:43.360
<v Speaker 2>things I was googling, But this was like a corrections

0:53:43.800 --> 0:53:45.960
<v Speaker 2>org where you try to find inmates and then there's

0:53:45.960 --> 0:53:48.000
<v Speaker 2>a phone number where you could set up a time

0:53:48.040 --> 0:53:49.239
<v Speaker 2>to visit them.

0:53:49.600 --> 0:53:51.080
<v Speaker 4>So it's that kind of a website.

0:53:51.200 --> 0:53:53.680
<v Speaker 2>So it's just the minimal information, like I just know

0:53:53.760 --> 0:53:56.600
<v Speaker 2>that he is in prison, but nothing else. And then

0:53:56.600 --> 0:53:58.480
<v Speaker 2>a part of me is scared that it's a totally

0:53:58.480 --> 0:54:01.600
<v Speaker 2>different guy that I just found in jail. So I

0:54:01.640 --> 0:54:04.239
<v Speaker 2>don't know, Like it was, there was not a lot,

0:54:04.280 --> 0:54:06.920
<v Speaker 2>and like what I found was the article. All the

0:54:07.000 --> 0:54:09.239
<v Speaker 2>articles kept saying the same thing over and over and

0:54:09.280 --> 0:54:11.160
<v Speaker 2>over again. It's like they had a press release and

0:54:11.200 --> 0:54:14.239
<v Speaker 2>that was that. Like there was no digging around in

0:54:14.280 --> 0:54:14.719
<v Speaker 2>any way.

0:54:16.120 --> 0:54:16.680
<v Speaker 4>So that's that.

0:54:17.360 --> 0:54:20.839
<v Speaker 2>And then the next case is will Fredo Rodriguez. And

0:54:20.920 --> 0:54:24.080
<v Speaker 2>so this happened to a woman who was living in Connecticut,

0:54:24.440 --> 0:54:26.680
<v Speaker 2>and we'll call her Jane Doe. Her name has not

0:54:26.760 --> 0:54:30.880
<v Speaker 2>been released, and she first met this ICE agent in

0:54:30.920 --> 0:54:34.600
<v Speaker 2>two thousand and six. So she's Honduran and her brother

0:54:34.800 --> 0:54:38.400
<v Speaker 2>was arrested for entering the US illegally, and once he

0:54:38.480 --> 0:54:41.600
<v Speaker 2>found out that she too was undocumented, he made her

0:54:41.640 --> 0:54:45.600
<v Speaker 2>become an like an informant to help the Immigration agency

0:54:45.680 --> 0:54:51.120
<v Speaker 2>if she wanted to avoid deportation, and she did it obviously,

0:54:52.520 --> 0:54:56.120
<v Speaker 2>And so while being an informant, she helped the agency

0:54:56.200 --> 0:54:59.480
<v Speaker 2>locate criminals by pointing them to different people, and she

0:54:59.560 --> 0:55:02.399
<v Speaker 2>pointed to three men living in the US illegally who

0:55:02.480 --> 0:55:03.840
<v Speaker 2>had stabbed her husband.

0:55:04.880 --> 0:55:07.360
<v Speaker 4>So, even though it like sucks she's an informant.

0:55:07.560 --> 0:55:09.520
<v Speaker 2>I wonder if a piece of her was like, I

0:55:09.560 --> 0:55:12.080
<v Speaker 2>get to fuck over these guys who stabbed my husband.

0:55:12.400 --> 0:55:16.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but I don't. I mean, this sounds like a movie. Okay,

0:55:16.520 --> 0:55:16.759
<v Speaker 1>go on.

0:55:17.000 --> 0:55:17.840
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>A year later, he told her to go to a

0:55:20.080 --> 0:55:24.120
<v Speaker 2>motel to like locate someone for her informant position, but

0:55:24.200 --> 0:55:27.360
<v Speaker 2>instead he sexually assaulted her in the motel. When she

0:55:27.480 --> 0:55:31.040
<v Speaker 2>rejected his advance, he threw her on the bed, covered

0:55:31.040 --> 0:55:33.040
<v Speaker 2>her mouth, put his gun next to her, and said

0:55:33.040 --> 0:55:35.080
<v Speaker 2>if she opened her mouth, he would shoot her. And

0:55:35.120 --> 0:55:39.120
<v Speaker 2>then he raped her and he would call himself the Wolf.

0:55:40.440 --> 0:55:42.560
<v Speaker 2>That's just a fact that was.

0:55:42.760 --> 0:55:44.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you're so fucking cool, dude.

0:55:45.520 --> 0:55:49.880
<v Speaker 2>So maybe that's where the slogan came from, like having

0:55:50.280 --> 0:55:51.840
<v Speaker 2>I don't know for the episode.

0:55:51.880 --> 0:55:54.600
<v Speaker 1>Maybe that's a stretch. Yeah, instead of him, they knew

0:55:54.600 --> 0:55:56.480
<v Speaker 1>that this guy with the Irish face could not pull

0:55:56.520 --> 0:55:58.400
<v Speaker 1>off like call me the wolf, so he said they

0:55:58.600 --> 0:55:59.960
<v Speaker 1>had him say I deserve some love.

0:56:01.120 --> 0:56:06.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So then he raped hers often is four times

0:56:06.400 --> 0:56:08.360
<v Speaker 2>a week for seven years.

0:56:08.760 --> 0:56:13.040
<v Speaker 1>Oh my God stop it. Yeah, a long ass time.

0:56:14.239 --> 0:56:19.719
<v Speaker 2>These assaults resulted in three pregnancies and three abortions, and

0:56:19.880 --> 0:56:22.120
<v Speaker 2>this buck had only paid for one of the abortions.

0:56:22.520 --> 0:56:24.680
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, this poor woman.

0:56:24.960 --> 0:56:30.600
<v Speaker 2>She attempted suicide four times. Oh. And her lawyer, George Kramer,

0:56:30.880 --> 0:56:34.840
<v Speaker 2>he made a comment that was like that his client

0:56:34.920 --> 0:56:37.719
<v Speaker 2>only had one choice to cooperate with ICE or be

0:56:37.800 --> 0:56:39.440
<v Speaker 2>deported with her whole family.

0:56:39.600 --> 0:56:43.200
<v Speaker 1>So it's like she didn't really have a choice. So

0:56:43.320 --> 0:56:43.840
<v Speaker 1>that sucks.

0:56:44.360 --> 0:56:47.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And it's just like pretty fucked up that ICE

0:56:48.080 --> 0:56:51.319
<v Speaker 2>can wield total control over the ability to remain in

0:56:51.360 --> 0:56:54.759
<v Speaker 2>the US. They're like very powerful, and seems like no

0:56:54.800 --> 0:56:57.120
<v Speaker 2>one good controls it and they can just.

0:56:57.000 --> 0:57:00.480
<v Speaker 1>Do whatever they want. It also seems very like DISORGANI like,

0:57:00.560 --> 0:57:03.880
<v Speaker 1>no one's really like, hey, I'm here for the wrong reason.

0:57:04.120 --> 0:57:07.399
<v Speaker 1>Like there's just a lot of like translation problems, and

0:57:07.480 --> 0:57:10.520
<v Speaker 1>like somebody like this man could just like abuse the

0:57:10.560 --> 0:57:14.279
<v Speaker 1>system and send her back into the ICE like deportation

0:57:14.440 --> 0:57:16.840
<v Speaker 1>system without her really ever being able to be like,

0:57:16.880 --> 0:57:19.680
<v Speaker 1>but actually, my PaperWorks in order, and I'm on my

0:57:19.720 --> 0:57:22.360
<v Speaker 1>way to have this done, you know, like because it

0:57:22.440 --> 0:57:23.720
<v Speaker 1>seems so disorganized.

0:57:24.320 --> 0:57:27.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we have a friend who's old friend from her

0:57:28.000 --> 0:57:32.120
<v Speaker 2>past married someone who works at ICE, and they stopped

0:57:32.320 --> 0:57:34.400
<v Speaker 2>talking to them or going to their house. Like to me,

0:57:34.480 --> 0:57:37.000
<v Speaker 2>it's like being part of the GESTAPA, Like you're not

0:57:37.080 --> 0:57:39.800
<v Speaker 2>a good person if you join ICE, and I'm sorry.

0:57:40.520 --> 0:57:43.760
<v Speaker 2>So it's like it's just a suspicious organization. Like if

0:57:43.800 --> 0:57:45.480
<v Speaker 2>I was at a bar and someone's like, oh, yeah,

0:57:45.480 --> 0:57:48.160
<v Speaker 2>I work at ICE, I'd be like bye, Like I

0:57:48.200 --> 0:57:51.840
<v Speaker 2>would not keep engaging, Like I just don't feel like

0:57:51.960 --> 0:57:53.800
<v Speaker 2>great people want to do that.

0:57:54.080 --> 0:57:54.840
<v Speaker 1>I don't get it.

0:57:55.080 --> 0:57:55.560
<v Speaker 3>Sure.

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<v Speaker 2>In twenty fourteen, she was working her construction job and

0:58:02.240 --> 0:58:05.800
<v Speaker 2>she received a call from him wanting sex and demanding sex,

0:58:06.240 --> 0:58:08.200
<v Speaker 2>and it stressed her out so much she fell off

0:58:08.200 --> 0:58:10.720
<v Speaker 2>of her ladder and got injured, and she's.

0:58:10.520 --> 0:58:11.960
<v Speaker 1>Had surgeries after that.

0:58:12.560 --> 0:58:14.560
<v Speaker 2>And she thought that would stop him, but it didn't,

0:58:14.560 --> 0:58:17.959
<v Speaker 2>and he kept threatening her and her family. Her dad

0:58:18.000 --> 0:58:21.200
<v Speaker 2>was in the process of getting asylum, and so another

0:58:21.280 --> 0:58:25.760
<v Speaker 2>agent approached her about her father's application, just you know,

0:58:26.000 --> 0:58:28.560
<v Speaker 2>run of the mill type of work, and she opened

0:58:28.640 --> 0:58:30.960
<v Speaker 2>up to them and was like, listen this everything, this

0:58:31.000 --> 0:58:34.760
<v Speaker 2>has happened like and told this agent everything, and the

0:58:34.920 --> 0:58:36.840
<v Speaker 2>agent suggested.

0:58:36.400 --> 0:58:39.760
<v Speaker 1>She consult an attorney. So this was an inside job.

0:58:40.040 --> 0:58:41.800
<v Speaker 2>This is kind of how like the AT and T

0:58:41.920 --> 0:58:44.120
<v Speaker 2>guy that came to my house told me to get Spectrum.

0:58:45.480 --> 0:58:49.600
<v Speaker 2>It's like, okay, so, but I'm you know, I'm grateful

0:58:49.640 --> 0:58:53.400
<v Speaker 2>that this agent actually was helpful towards her, because he

0:58:53.400 --> 0:58:56.800
<v Speaker 2>could have probably done the opposite. This went to civil court,

0:58:56.880 --> 0:59:00.439
<v Speaker 2>but nothing criminal has happened yet. She sued the US

0:59:00.440 --> 0:59:04.800
<v Speaker 2>Department of Homeland Security, US Immigration and Customs Enforcement, and

0:59:04.880 --> 0:59:08.480
<v Speaker 2>former ICE agent Rodriguez, seeking ten million dollars in damages.

0:59:08.720 --> 0:59:12.600
<v Speaker 1>And I don't know what happened, and that's that there's

0:59:12.720 --> 0:59:14.040
<v Speaker 1>just nothing about what happened.

0:59:15.080 --> 0:59:16.880
<v Speaker 2>No, if I found it, I definitely would tell you.

0:59:17.000 --> 0:59:19.040
<v Speaker 2>I don't think i'd keep secrets from everybody.

0:59:19.160 --> 0:59:19.320
<v Speaker 6>I know.

0:59:19.520 --> 0:59:21.240
<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying that. I'm just saying, like, that's really

0:59:21.240 --> 0:59:23.320
<v Speaker 1>wild that there's no follow up on That makes me

0:59:23.400 --> 0:59:25.440
<v Speaker 1>wonder because that's public record.

0:59:25.720 --> 0:59:27.720
<v Speaker 3>Our civil cases public record, though.

0:59:28.280 --> 0:59:31.520
<v Speaker 2>I think so, because I know, like sometimes if you

0:59:31.880 --> 0:59:35.960
<v Speaker 2>sign an agreement or make a deal like you can't

0:59:35.960 --> 0:59:38.840
<v Speaker 2>talk about or something, lawsuits are filed in civil courts,

0:59:38.880 --> 0:59:41.600
<v Speaker 2>and the documents filed in these civil cases are presumed

0:59:41.600 --> 0:59:42.240
<v Speaker 2>to be open.

0:59:42.040 --> 0:59:44.320
<v Speaker 1>To the public. I think you can also have a

0:59:44.440 --> 0:59:46.720
<v Speaker 1>I think there can be an adjudication that is sealed,

0:59:46.800 --> 0:59:49.440
<v Speaker 1>like for like an aunt amount. Probably they settled for

0:59:49.480 --> 0:59:51.960
<v Speaker 1>an undisclosed amount or whatever. But I think the fact

0:59:52.000 --> 0:59:57.320
<v Speaker 1>that they're still in process or whatever, it's so wild.

0:59:57.400 --> 0:59:59.680
<v Speaker 1>This makes me feel like it's like full conspiracy.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, I'm like ongo, it's like everything is purple, purple, purple,

1:00:04.040 --> 1:00:07.400
<v Speaker 2>and nothing is fucking It's always like she's seeking this

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<v Speaker 2>much in damages and.

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<v Speaker 1>Those articles are from I mean twenty nineteen. Yeah, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess it's possible that her lawsuit was held up

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<v Speaker 1>by COVID as well, but hopefully we find out soon.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, I hope she gets the money. I

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<v Speaker 2>hope this guy goes to jail.

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't get why there's no criminal charges either,

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<v Speaker 1>because it's not like the statute of limitations is up.

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<v Speaker 1>If he was raping her for seven years, that means

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<v Speaker 1>the most recent rapes were like in the twenty you know,

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<v Speaker 1>twenty fifteen was right.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, the whole thing, well, not him, but like

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<v Speaker 2>the other guy was like nothing's gonna happen, No CoP's

1:00:44.400 --> 1:00:46.680
<v Speaker 2>gonna investigate, and no one gives a shit, And it's

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<v Speaker 2>like it is true that girl was like raped by

1:00:49.080 --> 1:00:52.000
<v Speaker 2>an army base and left there like nothing happens, And

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<v Speaker 2>there's been SVU episodes about it. Like when you're within

1:00:54.600 --> 1:00:57.400
<v Speaker 2>the government and these big government agencies, I get billions

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<v Speaker 2>of dollars, like they don't actually have to do anything.

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<v Speaker 2>It's scary being assaulted in the military or ice or

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<v Speaker 2>like if you're someone not as powerful, it seems really

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<v Speaker 2>difficult to get things going or moving. I mean, even

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<v Speaker 2>for regular people that have been sexually assaulted, going to

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<v Speaker 2>the police doesn't always do something right.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, and then there's police officers that are doing

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<v Speaker 1>it like that. Yeah, fucking disgusting rapist cops that do.

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<v Speaker 2>That, you know, Yeah, and so many. I mean that's

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<v Speaker 2>why people don't report their sexual abuses often because they

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<v Speaker 2>don't end up going to court. These people don't get

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<v Speaker 2>up getting convicted. They're protected by all this mumbo jumbo

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<v Speaker 2>and it's fucked up.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there's just it's some there's something just so much

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<v Speaker 1>more disgusting about like assaulting something. I mean, assault is

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<v Speaker 1>assault is assault. It's obviously all horrible, but like just

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<v Speaker 1>when you're doing it to somebody repeatedly because they have

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<v Speaker 1>no way out, like you're abusing your power. It's just

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<v Speaker 1>like an extra layer of horrificness.

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<v Speaker 2>And this view always says, spanning all the seasons, like

1:02:04.240 --> 1:02:06.680
<v Speaker 2>the predators know how to pick their victims.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know, well exactly what the guy did in

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<v Speaker 1>this like he wasn't picking, like he wasn't picking people

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<v Speaker 1>that had like a really strong case for their green

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<v Speaker 1>card or people that were you know, I mean it's

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<v Speaker 1>almost surprising that they use the Irish story because the

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<v Speaker 1>Irish story wouldn't have worked out. And oh no it

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<v Speaker 1>was Belfast. It was like they made it seem like

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<v Speaker 1>he couldn't go back to Belfast because maybe there was

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<v Speaker 1>political stuff going on there, because Northern Ireland has some

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<v Speaker 1>political stuff going on.

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<v Speaker 8>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>It wasn't like, oh no, I'm going to get deported

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<v Speaker 1>back to Italy or you know whatever. Like it's it

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<v Speaker 1>was more people that were you could be killed if

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<v Speaker 1>you go home, you know, like something horrible away to

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<v Speaker 1>you if you're deported, so so fucked up.

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<v Speaker 2>It is fucked up. So these are the two cases

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<v Speaker 2>that this episode is based on. But I think we

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<v Speaker 2>both know this probably happens all the time all over

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<v Speaker 2>the world everywhere constantly, and people abusing their authority is

1:03:04.760 --> 1:03:08.480
<v Speaker 2>not even abusing their power and praying on the desperate.

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<v Speaker 1>And it sucks because.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure there's so many way like the bravery of

1:03:13.640 --> 1:03:16.000
<v Speaker 2>this woman to even take him to court or anything like,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure there's people like in this episode that don't

1:03:18.360 --> 1:03:20.200
<v Speaker 2>want to talk and don't want to tell anyone because

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<v Speaker 2>they don't trust the system, and why.

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<v Speaker 1>Would they, right, But it's really really like concerning to

1:03:26.720 --> 1:03:29.560
<v Speaker 1>me that you were unable to find so much information

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<v Speaker 1>because this clearly this stuff gets just like the press

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<v Speaker 1>can't get into these organizations. I feel like no.

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<v Speaker 2>And it was the same soundbites over and over in

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<v Speaker 2>every single article. It wasn't like there was like deep

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<v Speaker 2>investigative reporting on one or the other.

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<v Speaker 4>Like it was the same information everywhere.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's probably very like these are too bad apples.

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<v Speaker 1>These are just two bad guys we had at ICE.

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<v Speaker 1>Everyone else at ICE is great the same way that

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<v Speaker 1>we hear about you know, police and other institutions all

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<v Speaker 1>the time.

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<v Speaker 2>And if anyone does have more information or knows how

1:04:01.080 --> 1:04:04.160
<v Speaker 2>these cases ended or anything like that, please reach out

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<v Speaker 2>to us and let us know.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and then stick around because we have a very

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<v Speaker 1>fun interview when we get back. Okay, time for our guest.

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<v Speaker 1>We were very excited to talk to this person. She

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<v Speaker 1>is a regular performer in the New York comedy scene.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my God us too. Formerly, she can be seen

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<v Speaker 1>in Netflix's Dash and Lily, and SVU was one of

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<v Speaker 1>her first major roles. We had such a great time

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<v Speaker 1>talking to her. Guys, check out our interview with Lee Hubilia.

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<v Speaker 2>So we'll start from the beginning. We're assuming you auditioned

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<v Speaker 2>at Chelsea Peer's.

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<v Speaker 3>Of course classic.

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<v Speaker 1>How did that go? Like what was the for you?

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<v Speaker 1>So excited when you got the sides? Like tell us

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<v Speaker 1>about the audition process.

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<v Speaker 7>I believe, I don't know. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 8>I auditioned for for SPU before, but I've auditioned for

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<v Speaker 8>Jonathan Strauss before, so I'd been to like the iconic

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<v Speaker 8>Chelsea Piers like a few times. I definitely took lots

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<v Speaker 8>of pictures when I first got there, like all like

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<v Speaker 8>the movie photos in the hallway of like I don't know,

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<v Speaker 8>gone with the Wind and like that was a very excited.

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<v Speaker 7>Oh, I don't know, if I can.

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<v Speaker 3>Curse, you can swear, say whatever you want.

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<v Speaker 8>Perfect that's when I really shine. So I you know,

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<v Speaker 8>It was really funny because I'd been there a couple

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<v Speaker 8>of times and like hadn't booked anything, and so I

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<v Speaker 8>was kind of just like, I mean, iconic, it would

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<v Speaker 8>be auditioning for.

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<v Speaker 3>Rescue because I have watched a lot of SPO in

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<v Speaker 3>my life. Oh great, So I was really excited and

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<v Speaker 3>I was excited about the role.

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<v Speaker 8>But it wasn't like she wasn't specifically Filipino, and I

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<v Speaker 8>just like felt like, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 7>Her name wasn't Filipino. She worked at like a Thai restaurant.

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<v Speaker 8>I was like, I don't know, I'm just gonna I

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<v Speaker 8>only actually said an Asian act.

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<v Speaker 3>I was the only one I could do was Filipino.

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<v Speaker 7>So we're just gonna go with that. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>Is the accent?

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<v Speaker 2>How maybe your parents or family are like how do

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<v Speaker 2>you develop that? Because I'm Russian and I cannot do

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<v Speaker 2>a Russian accent and it makes me so embarrassed and

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<v Speaker 2>I get so shy and weird, and so how did

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<v Speaker 2>you come up with the accent?

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<v Speaker 8>Okay, actually iconic that this my biggest TV role is

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<v Speaker 8>a Filipino accent and I have never done one.

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<v Speaker 3>My parents don't really have one, I know, shook.

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<v Speaker 8>I called my cousin and my friend to help make

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<v Speaker 8>sure what I was doing was like right, you know,

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<v Speaker 8>and it's.

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<v Speaker 7>Just you know, my parents.

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<v Speaker 8>They have an accent, but it's not super strong, you know,

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<v Speaker 8>and they spoke on the English to me and my

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<v Speaker 8>brother growing up as the whole point is to get

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<v Speaker 8>rid of your accent, right, So.

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<v Speaker 3>Just really, you know, phoned it in. I feel like,

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<v Speaker 3>but it was.

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<v Speaker 8>It's just so funny that, like, you know that that

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<v Speaker 8>I don't normally, you know, I don't have an accent.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't normally do.

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<v Speaker 8>Things with an accent, but you know, we just pulled

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<v Speaker 8>it out. The hat for this one seems to work out.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, what was the hair and makeup department?

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<v Speaker 1>Because like people can't see you right now, but like

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<v Speaker 1>they should google you and like your headshots, like you

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<v Speaker 1>have this like long flowing hair. You're so pretty and

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<v Speaker 1>not that Rosamy isn't pretty, but she's very like librarian

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<v Speaker 1>and like Meek, it's just not really like your look

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<v Speaker 1>that you have in real life. So I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>hair and makeup wents to town on you, making you

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<v Speaker 1>this like little dork.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, wow, love that dork.

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<v Speaker 3>That's really cute.

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<v Speaker 1>I have to.

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<v Speaker 7>When I auditioned, I was like this, you know, I

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<v Speaker 7>just had hair. I mean, you know, like no makeup.

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<v Speaker 3>I just yeah, my hair out, just T shirt.

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<v Speaker 8>Honestly, we really were just like we're going to show up,

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<v Speaker 8>just very chill. And then I got to my fittings

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<v Speaker 8>and I was just like, we put on some clothes,

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<v Speaker 8>you know, and like they're you know, the clothes are

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<v Speaker 8>like you They're like blouses and like pants.

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<v Speaker 3>She's a hostess.

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<v Speaker 8>She wears a modest heel, okay, cute, and then the

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<v Speaker 8>props guy comes.

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<v Speaker 7>Over with these glasses the shoes show and I'm just

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<v Speaker 7>like what.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, I'm getting you in glasses. I was like, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>so what not like not like I wear glasses all

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<v Speaker 3>the time in real life. I was just like shocked.

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, have you ever even seen me glasses?

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<v Speaker 3>And then like.

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<v Speaker 5>We like specifically, like they specifically had to choose the

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<v Speaker 5>glasses that were like, you know, like Costco glasses. Like

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<v Speaker 5>I was like, well, I would wear weeks and they

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<v Speaker 5>were kind of like a clear like a big frame,

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<v Speaker 5>and they're like yeah, okay, well actually Rosemy is kind.

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<v Speaker 1>Of a little too hip for Rosami.

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<v Speaker 8>A little too hip and then like the hairdo It

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<v Speaker 8>was also funny because I just don't wear my hair

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<v Speaker 8>like that. But it's afterwards I started calling it like

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<v Speaker 8>the Rosamy classic because I'd be like, this is just

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<v Speaker 8>the tendrils.

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<v Speaker 3>In the front, like the prom moment.

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<v Speaker 8>And like it was really like it was really funny

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<v Speaker 8>and fun to like because it really like really transformed

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<v Speaker 8>me into this like different person and it really helped.

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<v Speaker 7>And you know, you trust them. They know what they're doing.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and how is it working with like a little kid?

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<v Speaker 7>Oh my god?

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<v Speaker 8>Your daughter so sweet? Really shook because I looked at her.

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<v Speaker 8>I was like, that could be my kid.

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<v Speaker 1>I kind of like, oh my god, like where and.

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<v Speaker 8>Then her mom was there, so I was a little like, hey,

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<v Speaker 8>if I borrow this for a second.

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<v Speaker 3>I was just gonna put her on my lap. That's cool, right,

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<v Speaker 3>But she was so sweet.

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<v Speaker 8>I mean, I, you know, I have taught and like

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<v Speaker 8>do sometimes teach kids, so like I.

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<v Speaker 7>And I, you know, I nanny it a little bit.

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<v Speaker 8>I babysat so you know, I've read, you know, I've

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<v Speaker 8>done that, like reading the same book over and over again,

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<v Speaker 8>and like so there's a lot of that.

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<v Speaker 7>Just like you know, just treating.

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<v Speaker 8>It just felt like I was hanging out with like

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<v Speaker 8>a really cute, sweet kid and we were like reading

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<v Speaker 8>this book in between takes just to sort of like

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<v Speaker 8>you know, I was like yeah, because I mean like

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<v Speaker 8>she's sitting in a stranger's laugh with all these people.

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<v Speaker 8>I mean she's very chill and like really professional. But

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<v Speaker 8>I was like I would feel weird just all these

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<v Speaker 8>strangers here. So it was it was fun, it was cute.

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<v Speaker 1>I like it.

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<v Speaker 3>But we had to take pictures also, like for the.

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<v Speaker 7>Frames in the apartment, like just like you know, wow, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know that. I always assume that they just

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like ask you for photos of you when

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<v Speaker 1>you're young, like, hey, can you bring a few photos

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<v Speaker 1>of you? But I guess you probably have to have

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<v Speaker 1>some of you and the kid. Oh yeah.

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<v Speaker 8>There was a whole separate day that was like we

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<v Speaker 8>took our like our wedding photo, you know that was

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<v Speaker 8>a very good hall wedding where they gave me like

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<v Speaker 8>ring lits and like glasses still there of course, but

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<v Speaker 8>like ring lits, and they had a picture of me

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<v Speaker 8>and I think it's like if you look at the piano,

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<v Speaker 8>that's like where the frames. Yeah, because you know, he

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<v Speaker 8>references his me during his scene.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So any like tidbits of working with the regulars, Marishka,

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<v Speaker 1>Iced Tea give us all that SVUT that we want.

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<v Speaker 7>Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 8>Well it's so funny because like the really like big

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<v Speaker 8>scene with everybody at the courtroom scene right where like

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<v Speaker 8>I'm brought in and it's like done.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, everything stopped.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Well that was like the very first thing we shot.

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<v Speaker 3>So it was like, you know, I'm just like my

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<v Speaker 3>first day.

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<v Speaker 8>It was like bring me scared into the room, which

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<v Speaker 8>she felt appropriate because I mean it's like the SVU

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<v Speaker 8>court room, you know, it's just like holy shit. And

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<v Speaker 8>then like you know, Mariska Marshka is like standing is

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<v Speaker 8>there for most of it, and then she like you know,

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<v Speaker 8>like flyer in at the last second.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm just like, oh my god, she's here.

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<v Speaker 8>And then I was like it's just it was really

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<v Speaker 8>I didn't have any scenes with Marishka, but it was

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<v Speaker 8>really funny to see her like walking around like the office,

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<v Speaker 8>like you know, I had to go back in for

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<v Speaker 8>ad R. Like Iced Tea was there when I was

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<v Speaker 8>doing my ADR, and it was very much like, oh,

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<v Speaker 8>we're gonna you're gonna come in and you're gonna dor

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<v Speaker 8>dr but I think Ice is coming, so then you're

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<v Speaker 8>just gonna have to leave and then come back. And

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<v Speaker 8>I was like gladly, yes, yeah, let no seat in here,

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<v Speaker 8>do his thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 8>Everyone's very chill and very nice and and Kelly was

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<v Speaker 8>also all all my scenes with Kelly and actually someone

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<v Speaker 8>uh who was just wasn't wasn't a regular Yeah yeah yeah,

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<v Speaker 8>from the band's visit, I forgot the.

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<v Speaker 1>Same supposed to be.

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<v Speaker 8>Honestly like having like, you know, Kelly is like a

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<v Speaker 8>series regular, but like they were all like very like

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<v Speaker 8>chilly chill about it, you know, they weren't like I

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<v Speaker 8>don't know, so it made me have to feel chill

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<v Speaker 8>even know like I wasn't. But I just be like

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<v Speaker 8>sure cool, which rehearse, do my lines whatever, No big deal,

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<v Speaker 8>just another just another day and like the longest running

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<v Speaker 8>TV show in history, and likely this is.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm never gonna be able to top this, Like my family

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<v Speaker 3>was like, this is it for me. I reached like

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<v Speaker 3>the pinnacle.

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<v Speaker 8>I could win an oscar and it's not going to

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<v Speaker 8>be being on it too.

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<v Speaker 1>So this episode actually aired right. But speaking of it

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<v Speaker 1>being like, you know, a big moment for you, Like

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<v Speaker 1>it aired right before the pandemic, so you could still

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<v Speaker 1>see people. Did you watch it with your friends? Like

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<v Speaker 1>how did you watch that episode?

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<v Speaker 8>I actually was very cautious about who I was going

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<v Speaker 8>to watch it with because it was my first Like really,

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<v Speaker 8>I mean I've had like other things that but they

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<v Speaker 8>all aired after SVS SVA. That the the biggest turnaround,

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<v Speaker 8>so I didn't know.

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<v Speaker 3>It was almost like am I gonna hate it? I

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<v Speaker 3>don't you know the accent. I was like so nervous.

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<v Speaker 8>I definitely was like I don't want to watch it

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<v Speaker 8>with a lot of like I have like cousins and

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<v Speaker 8>aunts and stuff that, you know. I was like I

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<v Speaker 8>don't want to watch it with like a whole big group,

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<v Speaker 8>which is like would be a typical filipado style.

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<v Speaker 7>But I was like, I think I'm just going to

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<v Speaker 7>watch with my mom, like very low key.

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<v Speaker 3>In Queens And yeah it was. It was really, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>it was very chill.

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<v Speaker 8>I like really wanted it to be like not a

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<v Speaker 8>big thing because I was like nervous about it. But

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<v Speaker 8>then I was like, actually like very happy about it.

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<v Speaker 8>It was really cool to see that's awesome.

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<v Speaker 3>What'd you guys eat while you watched it?

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<v Speaker 8>Well, I used to live in Queens. I used to

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<v Speaker 8>live in Sunnyside. My mom now lives in Sunnyside because

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<v Speaker 8>she's gotta be me. And there's just like there's this

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<v Speaker 8>I don't know why this is now like a recommendation,

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<v Speaker 8>but there's like this place called Mister Chicken and Queens

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<v Speaker 8>and has like the best chicken noodle soup and it

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<v Speaker 8>comes with corn bread.

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<v Speaker 3>It's delicious.

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<v Speaker 8>It's like when I lived there, it was like my comfort,

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<v Speaker 8>like seamless order. Having a bad moment, need chicken soup

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<v Speaker 8>physically or just like emotionally.

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<v Speaker 3>So like that, I like had the whole thing.

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<v Speaker 7>I was like, we're going to go to my mom,

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<v Speaker 7>so it's just gonna be me, my mom, my boyfriend.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm gonna order chicken noodle soup.

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<v Speaker 8>We're gonna watch it, and that's gonna be the whole

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<v Speaker 8>Like I had a very like ceremonial thing set up.

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<v Speaker 1>I love it.

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<v Speaker 2>This is really exciting that you're also a fan of

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<v Speaker 2>the show, So curious if you have any favorite episodes,

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<v Speaker 2>guest stars, or anything like as.

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<v Speaker 1>A watcher that you that we like to say haunts you,

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<v Speaker 1>like any Yeah, what's the episode that haunts you? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>pretty much every single one so you can't go wrong,

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<v Speaker 1>or like.

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<v Speaker 2>Which detective he thinks the hottest? What da you want

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<v Speaker 2>to comment on, you know whatever? As a viewer, you'd

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<v Speaker 2>like to share.

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<v Speaker 7>Episode that hants you know what's interesting.

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<v Speaker 8>I was like on a plane recently and they were

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<v Speaker 8>there was an SVU marathon going. This is after I

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<v Speaker 8>was on the show, and I was like, oh great,

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<v Speaker 8>you know it's every time the show comes on, you're like,

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<v Speaker 8>you know it's going to be good and you can

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<v Speaker 8>just watch it.

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<v Speaker 3>It was this episode.

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<v Speaker 7>I don't remember the name of it. It was.

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<v Speaker 8>It must have been pretty recent, but the storyline was

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<v Speaker 8>it was like this trans kid I think maybe they

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<v Speaker 8>were in high school, was bullied and like pushed off

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<v Speaker 8>like a bridge or something.

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<v Speaker 1>It was. It's literally called transgender Bridge. Is the name

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<v Speaker 1>of the episode. Really, you could have guessed it if

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<v Speaker 1>you spent Yeah, you thought about it for two seconds.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not the best named episode, I don't think, but

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<v Speaker 1>I know.

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<v Speaker 8>What you're talking about. It cannot believe it's wow. They're

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<v Speaker 8>just like two things towards put them together. But that

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<v Speaker 8>episode like really like stuck with me and like messing

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<v Speaker 8>it because like then you know, the kid that was bullied,

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<v Speaker 8>the kid that did he's part of a group that

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<v Speaker 8>was bullying this transgender kid, but he's also like a

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<v Speaker 8>young black boy, and you see his mom is just

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<v Speaker 8>like I can't have him, you know.

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<v Speaker 7>And so you're seeing this just like these two.

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<v Speaker 8>Just like uh families that are like absolutely being like

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<v Speaker 8>and then the kid in the hospital like says that

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<v Speaker 8>you know, she forgives the kid that was bullying. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 8>and then there's but then the kid spoilers I don't

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<v Speaker 8>know doing that. But then the the whole turn of

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<v Speaker 8>it is that like and after you and after giving forgiveness,

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<v Speaker 8>the kid in the hospital ends up dying. And then

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<v Speaker 8>as just like as precedents they have to send this

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<v Speaker 8>other kid to jail and try him as an adult,

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<v Speaker 8>and so like his life is ruined and his mom

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<v Speaker 8>was absolutely like beside herself by that, and I was

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<v Speaker 8>just it was so I was like this episode, you know,

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<v Speaker 8>there's like no good and I was like there's SVU

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<v Speaker 8>and it's like finest and it really shows you like

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<v Speaker 8>just like the nuanced like how sometimes you just like

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<v Speaker 8>is no happy ending for anyone?

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<v Speaker 4>And what are are you auditioning now?

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<v Speaker 2>What are your I don't know, dream jobs, goals, wishes, projects.

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<v Speaker 1>That you're working on on your by yourself? You know, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I have.

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<v Speaker 7>To Wow, it's that whole therapy session talking about what

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<v Speaker 7>are my wants?

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<v Speaker 8>And I you know, yeah, I've been auditioning in the

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<v Speaker 8>weird way that people do in pandemic, which is just

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<v Speaker 8>at home. Yeah, but like honestly kind of love that

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<v Speaker 8>because I don't have to dress up what chooes on.

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<v Speaker 8>I do some writing on my own. I have a

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<v Speaker 8>writing partner and we're working on some television shows that

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<v Speaker 8>we're like applying to some labs and things like that.

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<v Speaker 8>I just got some good news one of those projects.

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<v Speaker 3>But great.

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<v Speaker 8>I don't know when this will air and when the

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<v Speaker 8>Trades article will come out, but like we're excited about that.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I'm excited that we'll get to see you post.

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<v Speaker 1>This in the paper. Yeah, I know what's up. I know. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>when we were like googling you and stuff, we saw

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<v Speaker 1>that you like have done like comedy stuff in you

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<v Speaker 1>in New York. Right, we've dog because we're comedians from

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<v Speaker 1>what we met in New York. We both live in

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<v Speaker 1>La now, but I saw you do stuff at the pit,

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<v Speaker 1>and like I used to perform at the Pit all

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<v Speaker 1>the time.

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<v Speaker 3>We got rip the pit. I know, R I P

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<v Speaker 3>the pit, R I P U C B. I mean

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<v Speaker 3>they're all I know.

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<v Speaker 8>I mean, Magnet is only one sitting and actually the

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<v Speaker 8>Magnet is where I got most of my training and start.

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<v Speaker 1>I did take an Armando Diaz class at the Magnet

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<v Speaker 1>one time.

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<v Speaker 3>Because everyone was like, you have to take a class

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<v Speaker 3>with Armando.

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<v Speaker 8>Armando is such a I feel like he's a cartoon character.

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<v Speaker 3>He's so funny.

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<v Speaker 8>I took a sketch. I took sketch with him. He's

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<v Speaker 8>a funny character.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much, thank you for taking the time

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<v Speaker 1>to talk to us. I think that's all we really

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to ask you about. I don't know if you

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<v Speaker 1>have any if you have more school last minute like

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<v Speaker 1>run in where you bumped into iced tea or something.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I will say.

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<v Speaker 7>Kelly Giddish has a very cute dog.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not Oh, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, fan accounts that have told us about the dog

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<v Speaker 1>because the dog is in the show all the time.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, I mean this dog.

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<v Speaker 8>I mean when I this dog was just like this

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<v Speaker 8>set was its home. I don't know if I think

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<v Speaker 8>it's a book. I'm not sure the name of the dog,

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<v Speaker 8>but this this dog about a puppy, very big, just

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<v Speaker 8>like was going to crafty walking around like completely unattended.

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<v Speaker 3>So I was walking around.

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<v Speaker 8>Like there is a dog fully on the loose, and

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<v Speaker 8>then we sit down like you know, to do like

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<v Speaker 8>the first rehearsal in the court room, and then like

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<v Speaker 8>Kelly's there and then the dog just like on its own,

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<v Speaker 8>just like comes up to her and then like I'm like, oh,

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<v Speaker 8>it's her dog, and then it like leaves on its

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<v Speaker 8>own and then it's just like fully you know, autonous.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, what a fun guess. She was really so sweet

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<v Speaker 1>and cool and I wish you guys could have seen

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<v Speaker 1>her in person. Gorgeous hair and person. The only thing

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<v Speaker 1>that's confusing is the chicken soup.

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<v Speaker 2>That's not a party food, Lee, come on, get a

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<v Speaker 2>pizza and some savice. Now chicken cornbread is very cute.

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<v Speaker 8>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>She was amazing. I love hearing everything. Loved this episode.

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<v Speaker 2>Hate people taking advantage of the vulnerable communities.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So for our post mortem, what we learned in

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<v Speaker 1>this episode. Hannah, you literally are producer. Hannah, you are

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<v Speaker 1>literally going through the green card process right now. Tell

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<v Speaker 1>me about how you have been systematically abused.

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<v Speaker 6>No, the timing of this episode is crazy because the

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<v Speaker 6>day we were editing this episode was the day my

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<v Speaker 6>husband and I went in for his green card interview,

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<v Speaker 6>and so the timing was wild. We had a lovely

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<v Speaker 6>woman named Cecila. We passed, he got approved. What's the

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<v Speaker 6>craziest question? Were there any crazy questions? We were prepped

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<v Speaker 6>with four pages of questions. I know his favorite color,

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<v Speaker 6>I know his father's occupation, I know everything about him. Now,

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<v Speaker 6>I didn't need pretty much any of it. I came

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<v Speaker 6>so prepared with papers. I made a fifty page document

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<v Speaker 6>proving our relationship, with photos and captions and dates.

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<v Speaker 1>Of where we were.

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<v Speaker 6>We brought our phone plan, you know, if you have

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<v Speaker 6>all the paperwork. Also, he's Canadian, like, he's not coming

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<v Speaker 6>from a country that the United States has any questions about.

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<v Speaker 6>We're also white. It was a very easy process for

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<v Speaker 6>us compared to probably lots.

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<v Speaker 1>Of other people. Yeah, he's not fleeing a persecution. He's

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<v Speaker 1>not fleeing persecution in his homeland. Yes, but you think

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<v Speaker 1>you'd be nicer to the persecuted, yes, but they're easier

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<v Speaker 1>to take advantage of. Yeah, that was what we learned.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what we learned in this episode. Oh, it's so frustrating,

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<v Speaker 1>but Hannah, we're glad you passed. Thank you and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>hots off to men. We got to have a green

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<v Speaker 1>card party. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, we celebrated with veggie burgers and fries and everyone's like,

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<v Speaker 6>what are you gonna do to celebrate and we're like, sit,

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<v Speaker 6>we're just thrilled.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't want to do anything. We just want to live.

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<v Speaker 1>When I'm Afrihanna was done laminating a fifty page book.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure she just needs a rest. This is why

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<v Speaker 1>she's our producer everybody, because she's detail oriented.

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<v Speaker 2>And if you want to keep on this theme, there's

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<v Speaker 2>a great Simpsons episode about a poo becoming a citizen.

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<v Speaker 2>It's called much to a Poo about Nothing, and I

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<v Speaker 2>think I think that's what that one's called. But it's

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<v Speaker 2>him becoming a citizen and Homer being his teacher, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's really one of my favorite episodes.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think what we learned this week was Lisa

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<v Speaker 1>and I very much differ on whether people are allowed

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<v Speaker 1>to order from different restaurants. I'm okay with it once

1:22:45.560 --> 1:22:47.640
<v Speaker 1>in a while, but Lisa says it's a fine. It's

1:22:47.680 --> 1:22:51.040
<v Speaker 1>a fine everyday occurrence. I just can't handle double delivery fees.

1:22:51.080 --> 1:22:53.479
<v Speaker 4>For me, I had to. I love spending money.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like it's like my self destructive thing, like I

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<v Speaker 2>just love.

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<v Speaker 1>Your in or saboteur has a credit card, Yeah exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>But I was gonna say I had to take like

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<v Speaker 2>an oath and become a citizen.

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<v Speaker 4>I had a green card when I was a kid.

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<v Speaker 2>But I like threw in a face, like use the

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<v Speaker 2>name you want to use, is what I'm saying. I

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<v Speaker 2>gave myself a middle name that I didn't need, and

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<v Speaker 2>so now I have this like middle.

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<v Speaker 1>Name on my own.

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<v Speaker 4>It well, in Russia, it's like your.

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<v Speaker 2>Dad's name feminized, you know, like you probably know that

1:23:24.520 --> 1:23:28.400
<v Speaker 2>from literature and stuff. So it's Simonovna. But it's like,

1:23:28.400 --> 1:23:30.720
<v Speaker 2>like Russia doesn't actually have middle names. It's a very

1:23:30.720 --> 1:23:34.200
<v Speaker 2>American thing, I think, And so I was like, no,

1:23:34.400 --> 1:23:37.280
<v Speaker 2>I will be Yida Zavieta Simyonovna, and now I have

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<v Speaker 2>to add it everywhere.

1:23:38.200 --> 1:23:40.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't even know how to spell it. And it's like.

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<v Speaker 4>I was in junior high and I.

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<v Speaker 2>Should I was just jealous of everyone's middle names and

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<v Speaker 2>I should have just left it off my paperwork. So

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<v Speaker 2>if you do go do paperwork, pick the name you want.

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<v Speaker 1>And make it short. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Also, if you have a dirty mattress in the back

1:23:58.520 --> 1:24:00.559
<v Speaker 2>of your van, it's going to be to get out

1:24:00.600 --> 1:24:01.040
<v Speaker 2>of the case.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, Yeah, you're going to be found guilty.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah yeah.

1:24:03.479 --> 1:24:04.639
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

1:24:04.720 --> 1:24:07.280
<v Speaker 2>If it's a clean mattress, maybe, but if it's a dirty,

1:24:07.360 --> 1:24:10.320
<v Speaker 2>used mattress, not going to happen. Also, do not be

1:24:10.439 --> 1:24:12.000
<v Speaker 2>with men that are going to be mad at you

1:24:12.040 --> 1:24:13.440
<v Speaker 2>if you get sexually assaulted.

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<v Speaker 4>That's not a man for you.

1:24:14.680 --> 1:24:16.599
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. If you're scared to tell your.

1:24:16.479 --> 1:24:19.000
<v Speaker 2>Partner about something horrible happened to you because they might

1:24:19.040 --> 1:24:21.880
<v Speaker 2>get mad or jealous because you got attacked or think

1:24:21.920 --> 1:24:24.800
<v Speaker 2>that you're like dirty or not clean, that is fucked up.

1:24:24.840 --> 1:24:26.400
<v Speaker 1>And do not be with that person if you have

1:24:26.400 --> 1:24:30.240
<v Speaker 1>the option not to be. Yeah. Also, we learned that

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<v Speaker 1>something weird is going on with the green card system

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<v Speaker 1>because Irish people are both just coming here and then

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<v Speaker 1>getting married, but they're gay. Like, I mean, no one

1:24:37.960 --> 1:24:40.760
<v Speaker 1>was getting a green card in that situation. So I'm

1:24:40.800 --> 1:24:43.360
<v Speaker 1>confused about it. But if you I know, we have

1:24:43.400 --> 1:24:46.800
<v Speaker 1>an immigration attorney in our listeners, So somebody write me

1:24:46.840 --> 1:24:49.960
<v Speaker 1>and tell me why two people from Ireland were both

1:24:49.960 --> 1:24:52.600
<v Speaker 1>trying to get a green card from being married to

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<v Speaker 1>each other.

1:24:53.080 --> 1:24:55.240
<v Speaker 2>We definitely have Irish listeners since we were in an

1:24:55.280 --> 1:24:56.280
<v Speaker 2>Irish magazine.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh hell yes, I still have a copy of that

1:24:59.120 --> 1:25:02.280
<v Speaker 1>to give you because my good friend Brita shout out

1:25:02.320 --> 1:25:07.759
<v Speaker 1>to Brita in Ireland sent me seven copies of that magazine. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Also Rollins, she'd be flirtin' Rollins is out there touching hands.

1:25:12.200 --> 1:25:15.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but I mean now hopefully by now he'sa maybe

1:25:15.040 --> 1:25:18.320
<v Speaker 1>you've seen the Rollins in the releasy moment. No, still not,

1:25:18.960 --> 1:25:22.000
<v Speaker 1>but I think that that guy probably was watching and

1:25:22.120 --> 1:25:25.080
<v Speaker 1>was like fuck, there goes my recurring like he's maybe

1:25:25.120 --> 1:25:27.160
<v Speaker 1>he'll be back, but he's not going to be back

1:25:27.200 --> 1:25:29.639
<v Speaker 1>as the romantic interest of Rollins.

1:25:30.080 --> 1:25:35.040
<v Speaker 2>Also, I say this often, but everything counts. So every groper,

1:25:35.800 --> 1:25:38.400
<v Speaker 2>everything is fucked up, and you need to punt like

1:25:38.640 --> 1:25:41.839
<v Speaker 2>they need to be persecuted. You can't just be like, oh, whatever,

1:25:41.880 --> 1:25:42.960
<v Speaker 2>he just touched me. No.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, if you feel safe enough and somebody grubs up

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<v Speaker 1>on you on the subway or a crowded bus or something,

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<v Speaker 1>and you feel like you're safe. They don't. They don't

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<v Speaker 1>have a weapon, and like there's a lot of people around.

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<v Speaker 1>Make a scene. Make a scene. Scream at that motherfucker. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>make them embarrassed. I've had several denim cocks shoved up

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<v Speaker 1>against my back and I wish I had said more.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, say more if you can, and if there's people

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<v Speaker 2>around you, and if you see something true, I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>Know, if you see something, say something. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>New York real MTA really killed it with that one

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<v Speaker 2>that took over. They came up with that right, or

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<v Speaker 2>maybe it was nine I.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't know, Bubbly a firm or something. They probably hired

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<v Speaker 1>some I don't know. It's like about bombs, but I

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<v Speaker 1>think it covers a lot of things. You know. I

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<v Speaker 1>did major in advertising for a semester. So well, I

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<v Speaker 1>love that. I love that well. I mean when you

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<v Speaker 1>came up with the name for our live show that

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<v Speaker 1>game was like Marishka makes me hard and gay or

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<v Speaker 1>something like that. I was impressed with myself. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>was impressed too. I thought maybe you found it on

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<v Speaker 1>the internet.

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, that was in my brain. I'm not a plagiarizer.

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<v Speaker 1>Somebody a message just to saying that would be a

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<v Speaker 1>good drag name Mariska Harden Gay.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, it would. You need to find a

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<v Speaker 2>baby drag queen and give her a name.

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<v Speaker 6>Guys, there's a cool New York Times article about who

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<v Speaker 6>invented see Something, Say Something. It's a man, Allan Ka

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<v Speaker 6>who invented it September, set it for September twelfth, two

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<v Speaker 6>thousand and one, and then the MTA started using it.

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<v Speaker 1>But there's an article in the New York Times all

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<v Speaker 1>about the history of it.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh well wait, so literally the day after nine to.

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<v Speaker 6>Eleven, day after he said it, and then it was

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<v Speaker 6>picked up and used.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, send me the link, we'll post it in our stories.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't believe he had a slogan the day after

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<v Speaker 2>nine eleven. Wasn't even grieving that hard. I mean, to

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<v Speaker 2>come to be creative the next day at work, that's

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<v Speaker 2>pretty wild.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, to be pumping out hashtag content. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's also like I understand, like if someone leaves

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<v Speaker 2>a purse or a luggage and you're like, Okay, that's weird,

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<v Speaker 2>what's in there? But it's like fresh from nine to eleven.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like we saw the plane, you know, like you

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<v Speaker 2>can't blame citizens for that.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, right, I think I'm seeing a plane crash into

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<v Speaker 1>a building. Who do I tell?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's not really how it. Yeah, listen nine to

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<v Speaker 2>eleven sucked. Yeah, and see something say something became Hey

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<v Speaker 2>there's a brown person and I feel safe.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it became the next door app. Yeah, verse, there's

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<v Speaker 1>a package. I mean the next door app. Oh god,

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<v Speaker 1>the next door app is wild. I cannot wait for it. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I will say for the July will have just happened

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<v Speaker 1>when you guys hear this episode, and my next door

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<v Speaker 1>app will be flooded with people being like my dog,

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<v Speaker 1>please don't let off fireworks. And it's like you gotta

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<v Speaker 1>take your dog and get out of town because there.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you gentrify a neighborhood. You follow that neighborhood's rules. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>go fuck yourself. My neighborhood is pro fireworks. I've been

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<v Speaker 2>trying to get Rosie prepped. I'm like fireworks like in

1:28:36.040 --> 1:28:38.559
<v Speaker 2>Daniel Tiger. She keeps calling it of July. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think she hears me saying fourth, so she keeps being

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<v Speaker 2>like of July of July, there was funny roy Wood

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<v Speaker 2>Junior's son is very very cute, and he posts to

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<v Speaker 2>videos like days after fourth of July, I'm going to

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<v Speaker 2>the window being like boom boom, and he's like, it's done,

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<v Speaker 2>it's done, there's no more and he wanted more fireworks.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, someone would saying yes, sure, or was it with

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<v Speaker 4>your friends?

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<v Speaker 1>Actually?

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<v Speaker 2>But on the next door app that someone was like,

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<v Speaker 2>I saw a brown person and they were suspicious, why

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<v Speaker 2>are they parked at the end of my block? And

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<v Speaker 2>it was the landscaper doing work and had been working

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<v Speaker 2>there forever and she had to apologize officially on the

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<v Speaker 2>app and everything.

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<v Speaker 4>Because it's like, yeah, but are you going to change

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<v Speaker 4>your ways now?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Nextdoor is so racist, it's terrible. But there is

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<v Speaker 1>a funny Twitter account called the Best of Nextdoor, so

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<v Speaker 1>please follow that because they have some very choice, hilarious

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<v Speaker 1>things that people write, because people write to each other

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<v Speaker 1>and then they'll write racist shit and bad shit, and

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<v Speaker 1>then people will be like fuck right off ed, like

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<v Speaker 1>there's all kinds of fighting on it, and it's really funny.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh God, tell us how we can help the community care.

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<v Speaker 1>We need help let's talk about helping our community. You

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<v Speaker 1>can help your community by complaining about firework.

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<v Speaker 6>No.

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<v Speaker 1>On this week's what Would Sister Peg Do, which is

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<v Speaker 1>our weekly segment where we give you a resource, a

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<v Speaker 1>website and organi something, a book, something that helps you

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<v Speaker 1>gather more knowledge or contribute to a topic that we

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<v Speaker 1>talked about in today's episode. This week, we wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>highlight the American Immigration Council, which is www dot American

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<v Speaker 1>Immigration Council dot org. The American Immigration Council works to

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<v Speaker 1>strength in America by shaping how America thinks about and

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<v Speaker 1>acts towards immigrants and immigration, and by working towards a

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<v Speaker 1>more fair and just immigration system that opens its doors

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<v Speaker 1>to those in need of protection and unleashes the energy

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<v Speaker 1>and skills that immigrants bring. Immigrants are literally fifty percent

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<v Speaker 1>of this podcast, and they are the best, and we

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<v Speaker 1>need to treat them better and not with this fucking

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<v Speaker 1>disdain and racism that we get a lot in this country.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, without immigrants, you'd all be eating at fucking

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<v Speaker 2>Applebee's and doing nothing. Okay, you think you guys would

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<v Speaker 2>be winning any gold medals in ice skating?

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<v Speaker 8>No?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, no, go fuck yourselves whenever I think about like,

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<v Speaker 2>the people that hate him are like our race and

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<v Speaker 2>hate different cultures, and like, for what what do you want?

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<v Speaker 2>What does your town have to offer without an immigrant?

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<v Speaker 2>You don't want FU in your neighborhood. I don't get it.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't understand, Like you would just be eating peanut

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<v Speaker 2>butter and jelly doing nothing right. Next week's episode will

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<v Speaker 2>be Rapist Anonymous, Season fifteen, episode nine, So if you'd

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<v Speaker 2>like to do your homework.

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<v Speaker 1>Just a reminder that season fifteen is misnumbered on Hulu. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>it is, season fifteen, episode nine. It's called Rapist Anonymous.

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<v Speaker 1>Look at the title so that you don't watch the

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<v Speaker 1>wrong episode.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and then I did meet in Philly. Some people

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<v Speaker 2>that fully don't even watch it. There are people who

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<v Speaker 2>listen like they don't watch the episodes.

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<v Speaker 1>Like it's so wid Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So if you do watch Peacock Hulu, all that jazz.

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<v Speaker 2>If you don't watch, have a great weekend. Yeah, see

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