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Speaker 1: are going to spend a little time talking about Jeffrey Epstein.
Speaker 1: A number of people have been asking, you know, what
Speaker 1: do the Epstein files have to do with me? Why
Speaker 1: should I care? And what I would say to you
Speaker 1: all is that you may have a survivor in your community.
Speaker 1: You may have a survivor in your family. You may
Speaker 1: have never met anyone who's been impacted by sexual assault, molestation, rape,
Speaker 1: but this is this is something that hits our community
Speaker 1: in a really, really big way. There are people all
Speaker 1: over this country who have had experience. Is like the
Speaker 1: young women who interacted and encountered Jeffrey Epstein and his
Speaker 1: I don't know what you want to call this, lady
Speaker 1: Julaane Maxwell, his side piece. And what I would say
Speaker 1: to you, is that they have to find the courage,
Speaker 1: the strength to be able to come forward. And I
Speaker 1: think what is so unfortunate about what these young women
Speaker 1: have experienced is that their terror, their trauma, has been
Speaker 1: treated like a political football.
Speaker 2: It doesn't matter who was in power.
Speaker 1: People refused to look into the case, to look into
Speaker 1: the matter, to talk to the very the dozens of
Speaker 1: survivors who had experiences with Jeffrey Epstein and some of
Speaker 1: his most powerful friends. This crime, these crimes, no no
Speaker 1: ideological bounds, no no partisan bounds. But one thing that
Speaker 1: the Republicans that exist in this House of Representatives right
Speaker 1: now in Congress will do is they will make something
Speaker 1: partisan that has no business being partisan. And what I
Speaker 1: want to call to you all's attention is on January eighth,
Speaker 1: the Government Reform the overscing Government Reform Committee, which is
Speaker 1: chaired by James Comer, sent a letter to Hillary Clinton
Speaker 1: and Bill Clinton's lawyers trying to compel them to testify.
Speaker 1: And so on January twelfth, just four days letter later,
Speaker 1: a letter was sent from Williams and Connolly and Jenner
Speaker 1: and Block, which are the firms that are representing Bill
Speaker 1: and Hillary Clinton in this matter, and they're responding to,
Speaker 1: why all of the force, why all of this interest
Speaker 1: in wanting to hear from Bill Clinton and secretary former
Speaker 1: Secretary of State Clinton, the same Secretary of State Clinton
Speaker 1: who won the popular vote against Donald Trump.
Speaker 2: We shouldn't have an electoral college. But I digress.
Speaker 1: You'll see why she should have been our president when
Speaker 1: we roll this clip. But I want to just talk
Speaker 1: to you all, just for a moment about this. They
Speaker 1: were trying to force them to testify. They wanted to
Speaker 1: do a private hearing where they deposed the former president,
Speaker 1: the former First Lady, the former secretary of State, the
Speaker 1: former senator representing New York about what they knew about
Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein. Now there are images of Bill Clinton with
Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein, but Secretary Clinton, by her own testimony, has
Speaker 1: never met Jeffrey Epstein. But yet they wanted to talk
Speaker 1: to them. What they mentioned is instead of talking to
Speaker 1: the Attorney's General who had this in their purview, in
Speaker 1: their jurisdiction to investigate, to prosecute Jeffrey Epstein, you're coming
Speaker 1: for us, and we don't understand why you're doing that.
Speaker 1: So in this letter that their lawyers sent, it is
Speaker 1: a seven. Nope, it is an eighth page letter where
Speaker 1: they talk about why this is so beyond the scope
Speaker 1: of what they should be doing in their investigation, why
Speaker 1: they're not the right people for them to talk to,
Speaker 1: and they said, nonetheless, we will come talk to you,
Speaker 1: but we want to ensure that these depositions are released
Speaker 1: in total to the American public. Now, no surprises here.
Speaker 1: The Republicans are rule breakers, so of course they broke
Speaker 1: the rules when these folks came to testify before the
Speaker 1: House Committee on Oversight and Government from last week. And
Speaker 1: of course Lauren Bobert took a picture of Hillary Clinton.
Speaker 1: She was very irate about that. But those aren't even
Speaker 1: the best moments of this particular deposition. I want to
Speaker 1: direct our attention to Hillary Clinton's opening statement before the committee,
Speaker 1: which was about nine and a half minutes long, and
Speaker 1: I want to stop along the way and tell you
Speaker 1: all what's happening here and why what the Secretary of
Speaker 1: State was saying was so very important. I will tell
Speaker 1: you while watching this, I will be shocked if you
Speaker 1: can't see why this woman should have been the president
Speaker 1: of these United States.
Speaker 3: That's what the clip, mister Chairman, ranking member members of
Speaker 3: the Committee. As a former United States Center Senator, I
Speaker 3: have respect for legislative oversight, and I expect its exercise,
Speaker 3: as do the American people, to be principled and fearless
Speaker 3: in pursuit of truth and accountability. As we all know, however,
Speaker 3: too often congressional investigations are partisan political theater, which is
Speaker 3: an abdication of duty and an insult to the American people.
Speaker 3: This committee justified it's subpoena to me based on its
Speaker 3: assumption that I have information regarding the investigations into the
Speaker 3: criminal activities of Jeffrey Epstein and Galaine Maxwell.
Speaker 4: Let me be as clear as I can.
Speaker 3: I do not, as I stated in my sworn declaration
Speaker 3: on January thirteenth, I had no idea about their criminal activities.
Speaker 3: I do not recall ever encountering mister Epstein. I never
Speaker 3: flew on his plane or visited his island homes or offices.
Speaker 4: I have nothing to add to that.
Speaker 2: I want to stop here for two reasons.
Speaker 1: One, Hillary Clinton given all again, former First Lady of
Speaker 1: these United States, former senator representing the state of New York,
Speaker 1: former Secretary of State, former presidential candidate, the only woman
Speaker 1: who has ever won the popular vote in the United States,
Speaker 1: that Hillary Clinton is the one that they want to
Speaker 1: appear before the Oversight and Government Reform Committee. And she
Speaker 1: takes the moment to say, let me actually educate you
Speaker 1: on what is supposed to happen in a legislative process.
Speaker 1: This should not be partisan political theater. This should be
Speaker 1: an opportunity for you to gather facts so you can
Speaker 1: actually do right by these tax paying citizens who are
Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein survivors of assault.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: She makes it so clear what's supposed to be happening.
Speaker 1: And she says further, I don't know this man. Why
Speaker 1: y'all got me up here.
Speaker 2: Let's write a clip.
Speaker 3: Like every decent person, I've been horrified by what we
Speaker 3: have learned about their crimes. It's unfathomable that mister Epstein
Speaker 3: initially got a slap on the wrist in two thousand
Speaker 3: and eight, which allowed him to continue his predatory practices
Speaker 3: for another decade. Mister Chairman, your investigation is supposed to
Speaker 3: be assessing the federal government's handling of the investigations and
Speaker 3: prosecutions of Epstein and his crimes. U subpoenaed eight law
Speaker 3: enforcement officials, all of whom ran the Department of Justice
Speaker 3: or directed the FBI when Epstein's crimes were investigated and prosecuted.
Speaker 3: Of those eight, only one appeared before the committee. Five
Speaker 3: of the six former attorneys general were allowed to submit
Speaker 3: brief statements stating they had no information to provide. You
Speaker 3: have held zero public hearings, refused to allow the media
Speaker 3: to attend them, including today, Despite espousing the need for
Speaker 3: transparency on dozens of occasions, you have made little effort.
Speaker 1: So what's important about this particular part of her testimony?
Speaker 1: And this is what they also say in the letter
Speaker 1: data January twelfth from the attorneys She's making it very
Speaker 1: clear that the people who had the responsibility to investigate,
Speaker 1: to prosecute to an insured indictment of this criminal, Jeffrey Epstein.
Speaker 1: You allow them to submit written statements. Five of the
Speaker 1: six former attorneys general who would have Again, so we're clear,
Speaker 1: the attorney general is the person who oversees the full
Speaker 1: Department of Justice, that is, who is responsible for filing
Speaker 1: charges against a criminal that's committed federal crimes. So she's saying,
Speaker 1: of the six, five of them were able to submit
Speaker 1: a written statement. But y'all got me up here, what
Speaker 1: do you expect me to tell you I don't even
Speaker 1: know this man.
Speaker 2: Let's roll the clip.
Speaker 3: To call the people who show up most prominently in
Speaker 3: the Epstein files, and when you did, not a single
Speaker 3: Republican member showed up for less Wexner's deposition.
Speaker 1: This is a quick note just to say less Wexner
Speaker 1: in case Syaw missed, it is Victoria's secret.
Speaker 2: Less Wexner and he.
Speaker 1: Was all in and through the Epstein files, So let's
Speaker 1: just be clear about that. She's like, he's one of
Speaker 1: the biggest names in these files, clearly associated with Jeffrey
Speaker 1: Epstein in his ways and the American public who want
Speaker 1: to hear from him.
Speaker 2: You would think, since this.
Speaker 1: Is not political theater allegedly, that the Republicans who are
Speaker 1: on the Oversight and Government Reform.
Speaker 2: Committee would have showed up. They didn't show up that day.
Speaker 2: Let's roll the clip.
Speaker 3: This institutional failure is designed to protect one political party
Speaker 3: and one public official, rather than to seek truth and
Speaker 3: justice for the victims and survivors, as well as informed
Speaker 3: the public who want to get to the bottom of
Speaker 3: this matter. My heart breaks for the survivors, and I
Speaker 3: am furious on their behalf. I have spent my life
Speaker 3: advocating for women and girls. I have worked hard to
Speaker 3: stop the terrible abuses so many women and girls face
Speaker 3: here and around the world, including human trafficking, forced labor,
Speaker 3: domestic violence, and sexual slavery. For too long, these have
Speaker 3: been largely invisible crimes or not treated as crimes at all.
Speaker 3: But the survivors are real and they are entitled to justice.
Speaker 3: In Southeast Asia, I met girls as young as twelve
Speaker 3: years old who had been forced into prostitution and raped repeatedly.
Speaker 4: Some were dying of aids.
Speaker 3: In Eastern Europe, I met mothers who told me how
Speaker 3: they lost their daughters to trafficking and did not know
Speaker 3: where to turn. In settings around the world, I met
Speaker 3: survivors trying to rebuild their lives and help rescue others,
Speaker 3: with little support from people in power, who too often turned.
Speaker 4: A blind eye and a cold shoulder.
Speaker 3: If you are new to this issue, let me tell
Speaker 3: you Jeffrey Epstein was a highness individual, but he's far
Speaker 3: from alone. This is not a one off tabloid sensation
Speaker 3: or political scandal. It is a global scourge with an
Speaker 3: unimaginable human toll. My work combating sex trafficking goes back
Speaker 3: to my days as first Lady. I worked to pass
Speaker 3: the first federal legislation against trafficking, and was proud that
Speaker 3: my husband signed the Trafficking Victims Protection Act, which increased
Speaker 3: support for survivors and gave prosecutors better tools for going
Speaker 3: after traffickers. As Secretary of State, I appointed a former
Speaker 3: federal prosecutor, Lucy Debaca, to ramp up our global anti
Speaker 3: trafficking efforts. I oversaw nearly one hundred and seventy anti
Speaker 3: trafficking programs in seventy nations and directly pressed foreign leaders
Speaker 3: to crack down on trafficking networks in their countries. Every year,
Speaker 3: we published a global report to shine a light on abuses.
Speaker 3: The findings of those reports triggered sanctions on countries failing
Speaker 3: to make progress, so they became a powerful diplomatic tool
Speaker 3: to drive concrete action. I insisted that the United States
Speaker 3: be included in the report for the first time ever
Speaker 3: in twenty eleven, because we must hold ourselves not just
Speaker 3: to the same standard as the rest of the world,
Speaker 3: but to an even higher one. Sex trafficking and modern
Speaker 3: slavery should have no place in America. None Infuriatingly, the
Speaker 3: Trump administration gutted the Trafficking in Persons Office at the
Speaker 3: State Department, cutting more than seventy percent of the career
Speaker 3: civil and foreign service experts who worked so hard to
Speaker 3: prevent trafficking crimes. The annual trafficking report required by law
Speaker 3: was delayed for months. The message from the Trump administration
Speaker 3: to the American people and the world could not be clearer.
Speaker 3: Combating human trafficking is no longer an American priority under
Speaker 3: the Trump White House.
Speaker 1: What I think is important about this moment is Hillary
Speaker 1: Clinton is laying the groundwork for why not only should
Speaker 1: she not be testifying before this committee, but she also
Speaker 1: has a historic record of doing the exact opposite of
Speaker 1: everything Jeffrey Epstein stood for. So she talked about her
Speaker 1: work as First Lady. She talked about her work as
Speaker 1: Secretary of State. She talked about the law, the bill
Speaker 1: that got signed into law under Bill Clinton's leadership under
Speaker 1: his presidency because of the work she was doing. She
Speaker 1: talked about one hundred and seventy pro globally that she
Speaker 1: was responsible for overseeing as.
Speaker 2: Secretary of State.
Speaker 1: And the key part of what she said here, while
Speaker 1: they have hauled her and former President Bill Clinton before
Speaker 1: the committee to testify is that the reason you're not
Speaker 1: seeing this kind of work being done now under this
Speaker 1: Trump administration is because they've cut not only the funding,
Speaker 1: but seventy percent of the staff who were responsible for
Speaker 1: holding that portfolio of work at the State Department. So
Speaker 1: she talks about why is Marco Rubio not testifying before
Speaker 1: the committee. It's not because Jeffrey Epstein's case is in
Speaker 1: his purview. It's because he has the ability, the authority,
Speaker 1: the latitude to take this problem, this global issue, this
Speaker 1: global crisis by the Horns and deploy staff and programs
Speaker 1: to ensure that women and girls are not trafficked, people
Speaker 1: are not trafficked. Well, he would if the Trump administration
Speaker 1: hadn't cut the funding.
Speaker 2: Let's keep rolling.
Speaker 3: That's a tragedy, it's a scandal, and it deserves vigorous
Speaker 3: investigation and oversight. A committee endeavoring to stopping human trafficking
Speaker 3: would seek to understand what specific steps are needed to
Speaker 3: fix a legal system that allowed Epstein to get away
Speaker 3: with his crimes. A committee run by elected officials with
Speaker 3: a commitment to transparency would ensure the full release of
Speaker 3: all the files. It would ensure that the lawful redactions
Speaker 3: of those files protected the victims and survivors, not powerful
Speaker 3: men and political allies. It would get to the bottom
Speaker 3: of reports that DOJ withheld FBI interviews in which a
Speaker 3: survivor accuses President Trump of crimes. It would subpoena anyone
Speaker 3: who asked on which night there would be the wildest
Speaker 3: party on Epstein's island. It would demand testimony from prosecutors
Speaker 3: from Florida, New York and the Department of Justice about
Speaker 3: why they gave Epstein a sweetheart deal and chose not
Speaker 3: to pursue others who may have been implicated in his crimes.
Speaker 4: And it would.
Speaker 3: Demand that Secretary of Rubio and Attorney General Bondie testify
Speaker 3: about why this administration is abandoning survivors and playing into
Speaker 3: the hands of traffickers. It would seek out advocates and
Speaker 3: law enforcement of officials on the front lines of the
Speaker 3: fight against human trafficking and ask them what support they need.
Speaker 3: And it would put forth legislation to provide more resources
Speaker 3: and force this administration to act.
Speaker 4: But that's not happening.
Speaker 3: Instead, you have compelled me to testify, fully aware that
Speaker 3: I have no knowledge that would assist your investigation. In
Speaker 3: order to distract from President Trump's actions and to cover
Speaker 3: them up despite legitimate calls for answers. If this committee
Speaker 3: is serious about learning the truth about Epstein's traffic and crimes,
Speaker 3: it would not rely on press got gaggles to get
Speaker 3: answers from our current president on his involvement. It would
Speaker 3: ask him directly under oath about the tens of thousands
Speaker 3: of times he shows up in the Epstein files.
Speaker 1: What I love about what she's doing here is she's
Speaker 1: telling them how the committee should be running its investigation.
Speaker 2: And one key fact that I skipped.
Speaker 1: Over or haven't had the opportunity to bring up Jesse yet,
Speaker 1: is Hillary Clinton didn't just pop up, y'all one.
Speaker 2: Day as the first Lady of the United States.
Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton was a former Watergate staffer.
Speaker 2: That's right.
Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton was on the Nixon impeachment committee understanding uncovering
Speaker 1: what happened at Watergate. She's telling them, let me give
Speaker 1: you the formula that break down the blueprint for how
Speaker 1: this is actually supposed to go, instead of me testifying
Speaker 1: because you guys think it makes for a salacious headliner
Speaker 1: fodder on your crazy right wing blogs. You should be
Speaker 1: talking to the people who can actually inform you on
Speaker 1: this investigation to protect women who have been traffic and
Speaker 1: sexually assaulted.
Speaker 2: Not wasting your time on me because y'all love to
Speaker 2: hate Hillary. Let's roll the clue.
Speaker 3: If the majority was serious, it would not waste time
Speaker 3: on fishing expeditions. There is too much to be done.
Speaker 3: What is being held back, who is being protected, and
Speaker 3: why the cover up? So my challenge to you, mister Chairman,
Speaker 3: and members of this committee is the same challenge I
Speaker 3: put to myself throughout my long service to this nation.
Speaker 3: How to be worthy of the trust of the American
Speaker 3: people that they have given to you. They expect statesmanship,
Speaker 3: not damesmanship, leading not grand standing, and they expect you
Speaker 3: to use your power to get to the truth and
Speaker 3: to do more to help survivors of Epstein's crimes, as
Speaker 3: well as the millions more who are victims of sex
Speaker 3: trafficking in this country and around the world.
Speaker 4: Thank you, mister.
Speaker 3: Chairman, and I would also like to request that the
Speaker 3: video of this deposition be made available within twenty four hours,
Speaker 3: as it has been for other witnesses.
Speaker 1: I don't know why this woman was not the president
Speaker 1: of these United States, but when I tell y'all, I
Speaker 1: am so happy to be born on October twenty sixth.
Speaker 1: Like Hillary rodd and Clinton, she was phenomenal, phenomenal, And
Speaker 1: I think part of it to me is the class,
Speaker 1: the poise, the moments where she was tested to her core.
Speaker 1: She showed up brilliantly. She should do a masterclass on
Speaker 1: how to testify in a hostile environment, because that's exactly
Speaker 1: where she was.
Speaker 2: She was on you know, in a.
Speaker 1: Battle and in that last part where she says, the
Speaker 1: American people expect statesmanship, not gamesmanship. They expect leading and
Speaker 1: not grandstanding, is exactly the point. And she's like, you
Speaker 1: can release the tape because I know what I'm standing
Speaker 1: on business.
Speaker 2: I'm clear about the fact that I don't know this man.
Speaker 1: Y'all about to make me know this man. But there
Speaker 1: was a moment that tested Hillary Rodham Clinton, and I
Speaker 1: thought she might come across the table on this lady. Now,
Speaker 1: Nancy Mace represents a district in South Carolina.
Speaker 2: Wants to run for governor, I.
Speaker 1: Believe, and you know, really traffics in pissing people off.
Speaker 1: She's masterful at it and also being on the wrong
Speaker 1: side of history. You've seen her in a battle in
Speaker 1: committee rooms against Jasmine Crockett, and she really just she
Speaker 1: pushes things too far. I think in this moment, if
Speaker 1: I had to extend compassion at all, it would be
Speaker 1: because Nancy Mace has regularly talked about being a survivor herself,
Speaker 1: and because of that, I wonder if you know she
Speaker 1: was triggered by something and this was her kind of
Speaker 1: response in the way that she goes at Hillary Clinton.
Speaker 2: But I want you all to be your own judge
Speaker 2: of this. Let's roll the clip. We'll talk about it
Speaker 2: on the other side to.
Speaker 5: Your two more questions than we're going to pass it
Speaker 5: to Congressman Congresswoman Luna after Jeffrey Epstein was convicted, to
Speaker 5: concern you at all that you had taken a substantial
Speaker 5: amount of money from Jeffrey Epstein.
Speaker 4: That's an inappropriate assumption.
Speaker 3: I did not take a substantial amount of money from
Speaker 3: Jeffrey Epstein.
Speaker 4: So far as I know.
Speaker 3: Jeffrey Epstein contributed to the joint committee that was supporting
Speaker 3: my Senate race, which was how much I believe I
Speaker 3: was told twenty thousand dollars.
Speaker 6: You don't consider twenty thousand dollars substantial.
Speaker 3: I do not consider it relevant to me because I
Speaker 3: had no recollection that I ever knew that he gave
Speaker 3: any money.
Speaker 6: So you don't talked to your donors. They gave twenty
Speaker 6: thousand dollars to your campaign.
Speaker 3: My understanding of the rules back then is that there
Speaker 3: was no coordination between the committee and the campaign.
Speaker 4: So no, I have no recollection.
Speaker 6: But that doesn't mean you can't speak to your donors.
Speaker 6: That doesn't prohibit the dolls, not prohibit you speaking to it.
Speaker 3: But I didn't know he was a donor as far
Speaker 3: as I knew, he was not a donor until I
Speaker 3: learned this.
Speaker 6: And Estima Maxwell was heavily involved with people you knew
Speaker 6: and were close to.
Speaker 4: I knew people that I knew knew her.
Speaker 5: Yes, that's true, and you didn't you just shrug you
Speaker 5: didn't want to look into it, or nobody question.
Speaker 3: Now until her crimes were revealed and she was indicted
Speaker 3: and tried and convicted. I don't think people knew very
Speaker 3: much about at all.
Speaker 2: And how do you know, Howard Lutnik.
Speaker 1: I want to pause here really quick, And the reason
Speaker 1: I want to pause here really quick is because first
Speaker 1: I want to just take a moment, because I know
Speaker 1: people at home, maybe listening to this conversation about this
Speaker 1: back and forth about this twenty thousand dollars donation, and
Speaker 1: this really wasn't the point I was trying to get to.
Speaker 2: I want to get to something later, but.
Speaker 1: This particular point is fascinating to me because there are
Speaker 1: coordinating committees and a twenty thousand dollars donation is actually
Speaker 1: not large. There are people that bundle or raise resources from,
Speaker 1: you know, a bunch of different friends, and they could
Speaker 1: bundle to the tune of a million, two million, three million,
Speaker 1: five million, fifty million dollars because they have all of
Speaker 1: their friends donate five thousand dollars. But it's like if
Speaker 1: you were selling candy bars back in the day and
Speaker 1: instead of you being and I used to eat my
Speaker 1: candy bars, y'all don't tell them mama now, but you would,
Speaker 1: you know, you would sell your candy bar, your candy
Speaker 1: bar box. You would be responsible for your thing, to
Speaker 1: raise money for your school, for your basketball team, whatever.
Speaker 1: Now smarter kids would say, I'm gonna give you five
Speaker 1: candy bars to sell these. This kid over here is
Speaker 1: sell fire candid bars. You come back and give me in.
Speaker 1: I'll make sure you be able to keep a dollar
Speaker 1: or whatever. That's a business right. And so in a
Speaker 1: similar way, people raise money for campaigns and they coordinate
Speaker 1: so that they can raise more. At the same time,
Speaker 1: somebody Jeffrey Epstein may have been asked by one of
Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton's larger donors to pitch into a larger goal,
Speaker 1: and it is absolutely normal for a candidate not to
Speaker 1: speak to every donor. There's also something called call time
Speaker 1: where members of Congress candidates will call around asking for money,
Speaker 1: especially to meet a deadline if there's an upcoming filing
Speaker 1: deadline for fundraising, that kind of thing. But there are
Speaker 1: a lot of instances, especially when it's a coordinated committee
Speaker 1: and you're not supposed to be having conversations with a
Speaker 1: committee that is supporting you. That is very normal because
Speaker 1: you don't want to run a foul of the law
Speaker 1: or the rules. So that's also very normal. Now, this
Speaker 1: conversation around the Secretary of commer the current Secretary of Commerce,
Speaker 1: who does have a deep relationship with Jeffrey Epstein, is
Speaker 1: important because here we're getting into the nuance of humanity. Frankly,
Speaker 1: and I think what Hillary Clinton is saying here is
Speaker 1: really important. Her relationship as she gets ready to She's
Speaker 1: about to describe was centered around nine to eleven, one
Speaker 1: of the most terrorizing traumatic moments for New Yorkers. And
Speaker 1: this is when Hillary Clinton was in New York representing
Speaker 1: this area. So let's go ahead and roll this clip.
Speaker 3: I know Howard Lutnick because when I was Senator on
Speaker 3: nine to eleven, the firm he headed, Canter Fitzgerald, suffered
Speaker 3: the greatest loss of life. As I recall, something like
Speaker 3: six hundred and fifty of his employees were murdered by
Speaker 3: terrorists that day. Howard Lutnick missed being a victim because
Speaker 3: he was delayed dropping his child off to guard. You
Speaker 3: asked the question, I'm going to answer your question. This
Speaker 3: was what I spent my time doing. I'm trying to.
Speaker 7: Look out for other survivers, trying and I was taking
Speaker 7: care of it, the people who lost here thousand lives.
Speaker 7: And now you're being pregnant today. You asked me, I
Speaker 7: have now Epstein survivors. I'm a survivor myself. You have emails.
Speaker 7: You've denied that Jeffrey Epstein that you tried to get
Speaker 7: Jeffrey Epstein to give money to you did Howard Lutnick
Speaker 7: was if you have.
Speaker 3: An email with me asking Jeffrey I have.
Speaker 7: Her money mail from Howard Lutnick sending it to Jeffrey
Speaker 7: Epstein and.
Speaker 6: His people to raise money.
Speaker 7: I do you know about an event, an intimate event
Speaker 7: for you at his offices at Canna fitzgiald off the
Speaker 7: skate and say to this committee, you didn't try to
Speaker 7: get money from jeff Frey Epstein when there was an
Speaker 7: intimate event in an email that Howard lud to email
Speaker 7: to Epstein's people and Epstein to get him to come
Speaker 7: to your intimate event at Canner Fitzgerald, a very small event.
Speaker 7: And so I'm not gonna pub You want to yell
Speaker 7: at me, that's fine, right, Well, I am looking out.
Speaker 4: I'm doing the job that.
Speaker 6: You would not do and refuse to do as Secretary
Speaker 6: of State.
Speaker 4: Thank you, and I feel back to no.
Speaker 3: I'm going to finish answering the question, which I have
Speaker 3: a right to do. I am very sympathetic to your
Speaker 3: personal situation. I have read about it, I have seen
Speaker 3: you testify or speak on the floor about it, and
Speaker 3: I very much sympathize with not only what you went through,
Speaker 3: but appreciate your effort to stand up for survivors. I
Speaker 3: was a senator representing the people who were murdered on
Speaker 3: nine to eleven. Nobody lost more people than Howard Lutnik.
Speaker 3: You can say whatever you want, you can call them
Speaker 3: and have them appear before the committee.
Speaker 4: But I knew him.
Speaker 3: I knew him as the man who lost the employees
Speaker 3: that he knew intimately, including his brother.
Speaker 7: And he was so ire money for you.
Speaker 3: You know what, if you don't want to hear what
Speaker 3: emotionally affected me, that's fine.
Speaker 4: But that's why I know Howard Lutnik.
Speaker 3: I went to the memorial service every nine eleven after
Speaker 3: the formal service was held.
Speaker 7: With all of his people of families, you and Jeffrey
Speaker 7: Epstein raising money.
Speaker 8: Well, you know, Howard Blutnick and I get work together
Speaker 8: because we had a lot of victims than you did
Speaker 8: take care of, and we work together to rebuild downtown Manhattan.
Speaker 4: That is how I know Howard Blutnick.
Speaker 1: I and I want to stop here. Here's what I
Speaker 1: think is remarkable about this. And if Nancy Mace doesn't
Speaker 1: know this yet, she'll soon find out. I don't know
Speaker 1: how much money she's raised as a member of Congress
Speaker 1: to hold her seat, but certainly, when you run statewide,
Speaker 1: as Hillary Clinton had done, people will hold events for you.
Speaker 1: They will hold very intimate events for you. They will
Speaker 1: be at law offices, they will be with financial services companies,
Speaker 1: whether it's private equity or venture capital or bankers. There
Speaker 1: will be labor unions that will hold events for you.
Speaker 1: And when people hold events for you, generally speaking, there
Speaker 1: is a fundraising committee, and generally there are people who
Speaker 1: are chairs or co chairs of that fundraising committee. And
Speaker 1: the chairs and the co chairs of that fundraising committee
Speaker 1: have a certain threshold, a certain goal, and the committees,
Speaker 1: the committee members have a certain goal, and they will
Speaker 1: reach out to their friends, people who they know they
Speaker 1: can count on, who normally will give without asking them why.
Speaker 1: There is nothing whatsoever that implicates Hillary Clinton on an
Speaker 1: email from Howard Lutnik to Jeffrey Epstein for a fundraiser,
Speaker 1: there's not as frustrating as that might be for people
Speaker 1: to understand at home.
Speaker 2: There are people who are.
Speaker 1: Reached out to all the time to go to these events,
Speaker 1: and they're normally on the wealthier side. We are very
Speaker 1: clear that Jeffrey Epstein was wealthy himself and ran in
Speaker 1: the circles of the elite of the rich and famous
Speaker 1: of this country.
Speaker 2: That is the truth. Now, whether Nancy wants to hear
Speaker 2: it or not, that is the truth. And with Hillary
Speaker 2: Clinton is sharing is very compelling.
Speaker 1: This man lost how many employees in the World Trade
Speaker 1: Center attack, including his own brother.
Speaker 2: She was the senator representing New York.
Speaker 1: Of course she's going to have a relationship with this
Speaker 1: man now, I'm sure she also she said very clearly,
Speaker 1: bring his ass before this committee and have him testify. Right,
Speaker 1: So all of that is happening. There's a lot more
Speaker 1: to unpack.
Speaker 2: I know.
Speaker 1: We're going to do that tomorrow on our show, our
Speaker 1: main show. We record tomorrow, it will drop Thursday. We
Speaker 1: will keep going. If you all haven't seen it, go
Speaker 1: do the homework today, go and watch Hillary Clinton's full
Speaker 1: testimony before the Oversight and Government Reform Committee. I want
Speaker 1: you all to take notes, because again it is a masterclass.
Speaker 1: In that moment when Nancy, when Nancy Mas was get
Speaker 1: her she said, you know what, I felt that in
Speaker 1: that moment that you know what.
Speaker 2: My response on the other side of you know what.
Speaker 1: Would have been, I'm a tech write, it would have
Speaker 1: been a full on cuss out. Hillary Clinton is a
Speaker 1: masterclass at diplomacy, at being able to check yourself and
Speaker 1: pause and being grounded and bringing people into her own experience.
Speaker 1: She said, if you don't want to hear about my
Speaker 1: emotions at the time, that's fine. But I have the
Speaker 1: right to answer this question. Let us study it, let
Speaker 1: us hear the truth that comes out of her mouth.
Speaker 1: She was put in a position to have to answer
Speaker 1: questions about what her husband was doing when she wasn't there.
Speaker 1: Not fair. She's been having to answer those questions for
Speaker 1: too long. It was brilliant. And speaking of brilliant, I
Speaker 1: want you, if you are in Arkansas, if you are
Speaker 1: in Texas, or if you are in North Carolina today,
Speaker 1: I want you to go and be brilliant and vote
Speaker 1: in your primaries. There are some amazing people on the
Speaker 1: ticket and every single one of these states. But I
Speaker 1: want us to deepen into just for a moment, because
Speaker 1: it's been a hot topic, into the race of our
Speaker 1: dear sister, Jasmine Crocket. There's been a lot of stuff flying,
Speaker 1: a lot of stuff that is not cool, and so
Speaker 1: I want us to remind each other of the greatness
Speaker 1: of black women. On the other side of Black History
Speaker 1: Month and now fully into Women's History Month because our
Speaker 1: dear sister Ayana Presley showed up for Jasmine Crockett just
Speaker 1: this past weekend and it was amazing, and it reminds
Speaker 1: me of the importance of sisterhood when things are tough,
Speaker 1: when people are coming at your character, when they're being
Speaker 1: racist and gaslin you pretending that it's not racism at all,
Speaker 1: when people are trying to say that you don't deserve
Speaker 1: to be somewhere. And Jasmine has demonstrated time and time
Speaker 1: again that she represents us so well in the face
Speaker 1: of everything that's going on. She has been courageous and
Speaker 1: she has run all the way through the tape on
Speaker 1: this race. So I hope you all, if you're voting
Speaker 1: today in Texas, that number one, if you can vote
Speaker 1: in Texas, that you do vote in Texas. And I
Speaker 1: want you all to hear from my dear sister Ayana
Speaker 1: Presley on why she is supporting Jasmine Crockett.
Speaker 2: Let's roll this.
Speaker 9: People are very accustomed to black women being the mule
Speaker 9: for this country because we carry everybody when all and
Speaker 9: Julia Cooper.
Speaker 10: Says, when and where I enter the entire race enters
Speaker 10: with me.
Speaker 9: That has been the role of Black women throughout history
Speaker 9: of the entire human race enters with us. Jasmine honors
Speaker 9: that long standing tradition of black women throughout history as
Speaker 9: truth telling us, as justice secrets.
Speaker 10: As architects have changed. So I was not going to
Speaker 10: allow them to try.
Speaker 9: To minimize her impact, to contain her as a cheerleader
Speaker 9: for the party or as a clap back queen.
Speaker 10: But the second she needs is a divine assignment and
Speaker 10: it raises her head.
Speaker 4: Now you have a crop.
Speaker 9: So I had to be here because she is the
Speaker 9: most qualified, She is the most primed and record.
Speaker 10: We don't have judge about her. We know about her
Speaker 10: job pros, having concurrency on the state.
Speaker 9: Level bat Win, Texas Republicans here meeting the moment on
Speaker 9: the national stage, and of course her fine legal month.
Speaker 9: And we need that righteousness in the Senate, especially now because.
Speaker 10: When we get a majority back, when we do our part,
Speaker 10: we keep sending things over to the Senate and to
Speaker 10: die is certain death. And that is why we need
Speaker 10: Jasmine Crowthey of the Senate, and that's why we need
Speaker 10: her now.
Speaker 1: I love that it's such as moment. I know this
Speaker 1: race has been so trying for our dear sister Jasmine Kracket.
Speaker 1: I'm sending prayers her way and sending so much gratitude
Speaker 1: Tuyana Presley, because many of us know black women who
Speaker 1: fit that bill know exactly what she's talking about. In
Speaker 1: every industry in this country, we have been the middle
Speaker 1: of the world.
Speaker 2: That is what Zora Neil Hurston said.
Speaker 1: But we also know that we are worthy of the
Speaker 1: labor that we give, worthy of every gift, and are
Speaker 1: so excited to share those gifts with you all. I'm
Speaker 1: excited to share them with y'all every single week on
Speaker 1: Native Lampard, I thank you all for tuning in. If
Speaker 1: you see a black woman walking down the street today,
Speaker 1: just tell them thank you. And I'm gonna tell y'all
Speaker 1: thank you in Arkansas and North Carolina and Texas. When
Speaker 1: you go vote today, go do the right thing. The
Speaker 1: spike leeway you understand, all right.
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