1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,400 Speaker 1: Native Lampod is a production of iHeartRadio in partnership with 2 00:00:03,480 --> 00:00:08,399 Speaker 1: Reason Choice Media. Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, 3 00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:12,800 Speaker 1: Welcome home everyone. I'm Angela Raie. I am your host 4 00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:16,200 Speaker 1: for today. This is my solo pod for Native Lampod 5 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:19,400 Speaker 1: where we break down all things politics and culture. I'm 6 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:22,120 Speaker 1: live on Instagram right now encouraging you all to come 7 00:00:22,160 --> 00:00:25,200 Speaker 1: over to the live stream on YouTube, and today we 8 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:28,520 Speaker 1: are going to spend a little time talking about Jeffrey Epstein. 9 00:00:29,360 --> 00:00:32,680 Speaker 1: A number of people have been asking, you know, what 10 00:00:32,720 --> 00:00:35,040 Speaker 1: do the Epstein files have to do with me? Why 11 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:37,400 Speaker 1: should I care? And what I would say to you 12 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:40,840 Speaker 1: all is that you may have a survivor in your community. 13 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:43,320 Speaker 1: You may have a survivor in your family. You may 14 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:48,599 Speaker 1: have never met anyone who's been impacted by sexual assault, molestation, rape, 15 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:52,560 Speaker 1: but this is this is something that hits our community 16 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:56,640 Speaker 1: in a really, really big way. There are people all 17 00:00:56,680 --> 00:01:00,880 Speaker 1: over this country who have had experience. Is like the 18 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 1: young women who interacted and encountered Jeffrey Epstein and his 19 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:08,679 Speaker 1: I don't know what you want to call this, lady 20 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:13,800 Speaker 1: Julaane Maxwell, his side piece. And what I would say 21 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 1: to you, is that they have to find the courage, 22 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 1: the strength to be able to come forward. And I 23 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 1: think what is so unfortunate about what these young women 24 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:32,520 Speaker 1: have experienced is that their terror, their trauma, has been 25 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:34,920 Speaker 1: treated like a political football. 26 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:37,520 Speaker 2: It doesn't matter who was in power. 27 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:41,759 Speaker 1: People refused to look into the case, to look into 28 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:46,200 Speaker 1: the matter, to talk to the very the dozens of 29 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 1: survivors who had experiences with Jeffrey Epstein and some of 30 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 1: his most powerful friends. This crime, these crimes, no no 31 00:01:56,480 --> 00:02:01,440 Speaker 1: ideological bounds, no no partisan bounds. But one thing that 32 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:05,280 Speaker 1: the Republicans that exist in this House of Representatives right 33 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:09,120 Speaker 1: now in Congress will do is they will make something 34 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:12,960 Speaker 1: partisan that has no business being partisan. And what I 35 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 1: want to call to you all's attention is on January eighth, 36 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:19,360 Speaker 1: the Government Reform the overscing Government Reform Committee, which is 37 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:23,960 Speaker 1: chaired by James Comer, sent a letter to Hillary Clinton 38 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:27,520 Speaker 1: and Bill Clinton's lawyers trying to compel them to testify. 39 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:31,919 Speaker 1: And so on January twelfth, just four days letter later, 40 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:34,960 Speaker 1: a letter was sent from Williams and Connolly and Jenner 41 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 1: and Block, which are the firms that are representing Bill 42 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:40,920 Speaker 1: and Hillary Clinton in this matter, and they're responding to, 43 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 1: why all of the force, why all of this interest 44 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 1: in wanting to hear from Bill Clinton and secretary former 45 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:51,400 Speaker 1: Secretary of State Clinton, the same Secretary of State Clinton 46 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:53,320 Speaker 1: who won the popular vote against Donald Trump. 47 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 2: We shouldn't have an electoral college. But I digress. 48 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 1: You'll see why she should have been our president when 49 00:02:57,639 --> 00:03:00,680 Speaker 1: we roll this clip. But I want to just talk 50 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:02,919 Speaker 1: to you all, just for a moment about this. They 51 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:05,240 Speaker 1: were trying to force them to testify. They wanted to 52 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 1: do a private hearing where they deposed the former president, 53 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:13,400 Speaker 1: the former First Lady, the former secretary of State, the 54 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 1: former senator representing New York about what they knew about 55 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein. Now there are images of Bill Clinton with 56 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:24,760 Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein, but Secretary Clinton, by her own testimony, has 57 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 1: never met Jeffrey Epstein. But yet they wanted to talk 58 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:30,840 Speaker 1: to them. What they mentioned is instead of talking to 59 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:34,120 Speaker 1: the Attorney's General who had this in their purview, in 60 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 1: their jurisdiction to investigate, to prosecute Jeffrey Epstein, you're coming 61 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 1: for us, and we don't understand why you're doing that. 62 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:45,120 Speaker 1: So in this letter that their lawyers sent, it is 63 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 1: a seven. Nope, it is an eighth page letter where 64 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:54,480 Speaker 1: they talk about why this is so beyond the scope 65 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 1: of what they should be doing in their investigation, why 66 00:03:57,760 --> 00:03:59,600 Speaker 1: they're not the right people for them to talk to, 67 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 1: and they said, nonetheless, we will come talk to you, 68 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:06,040 Speaker 1: but we want to ensure that these depositions are released 69 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 1: in total to the American public. Now, no surprises here. 70 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:13,440 Speaker 1: The Republicans are rule breakers, so of course they broke 71 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 1: the rules when these folks came to testify before the 72 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 1: House Committee on Oversight and Government from last week. And 73 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 1: of course Lauren Bobert took a picture of Hillary Clinton. 74 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:26,600 Speaker 1: She was very irate about that. But those aren't even 75 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:30,800 Speaker 1: the best moments of this particular deposition. I want to 76 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 1: direct our attention to Hillary Clinton's opening statement before the committee, 77 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 1: which was about nine and a half minutes long, and 78 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 1: I want to stop along the way and tell you 79 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 1: all what's happening here and why what the Secretary of 80 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 1: State was saying was so very important. I will tell 81 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:49,919 Speaker 1: you while watching this, I will be shocked if you 82 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 1: can't see why this woman should have been the president 83 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:54,920 Speaker 1: of these United States. 84 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:59,359 Speaker 3: That's what the clip, mister Chairman, ranking member members of 85 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:03,719 Speaker 3: the Committee. As a former United States Center Senator, I 86 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:08,240 Speaker 3: have respect for legislative oversight, and I expect its exercise, 87 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 3: as do the American people, to be principled and fearless 88 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 3: in pursuit of truth and accountability. As we all know, however, 89 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 3: too often congressional investigations are partisan political theater, which is 90 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 3: an abdication of duty and an insult to the American people. 91 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:29,480 Speaker 3: This committee justified it's subpoena to me based on its 92 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:34,039 Speaker 3: assumption that I have information regarding the investigations into the 93 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:38,360 Speaker 3: criminal activities of Jeffrey Epstein and Galaine Maxwell. 94 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:40,840 Speaker 4: Let me be as clear as I can. 95 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 3: I do not, as I stated in my sworn declaration 96 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:50,640 Speaker 3: on January thirteenth, I had no idea about their criminal activities. 97 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 3: I do not recall ever encountering mister Epstein. I never 98 00:05:55,920 --> 00:06:01,120 Speaker 3: flew on his plane or visited his island homes or offices. 99 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 4: I have nothing to add to that. 100 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 2: I want to stop here for two reasons. 101 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:10,919 Speaker 1: One, Hillary Clinton given all again, former First Lady of 102 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:14,800 Speaker 1: these United States, former senator representing the state of New York, 103 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 1: former Secretary of State, former presidential candidate, the only woman 104 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:22,720 Speaker 1: who has ever won the popular vote in the United States, 105 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:25,720 Speaker 1: that Hillary Clinton is the one that they want to 106 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 1: appear before the Oversight and Government Reform Committee. And she 107 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:31,840 Speaker 1: takes the moment to say, let me actually educate you 108 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:36,120 Speaker 1: on what is supposed to happen in a legislative process. 109 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:40,760 Speaker 1: This should not be partisan political theater. This should be 110 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 1: an opportunity for you to gather facts so you can 111 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:46,600 Speaker 1: actually do right by these tax paying citizens who are 112 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:50,040 Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein survivors of assault. 113 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:51,200 Speaker 2: Right. 114 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:54,320 Speaker 1: She makes it so clear what's supposed to be happening. 115 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 1: And she says further, I don't know this man. Why 116 00:06:57,360 --> 00:06:58,320 Speaker 1: y'all got me up here. 117 00:06:58,520 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 2: Let's write a clip. 118 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:04,039 Speaker 3: Like every decent person, I've been horrified by what we 119 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 3: have learned about their crimes. It's unfathomable that mister Epstein 120 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 3: initially got a slap on the wrist in two thousand 121 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:17,960 Speaker 3: and eight, which allowed him to continue his predatory practices 122 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:22,960 Speaker 3: for another decade. Mister Chairman, your investigation is supposed to 123 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 3: be assessing the federal government's handling of the investigations and 124 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 3: prosecutions of Epstein and his crimes. U subpoenaed eight law 125 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:35,160 Speaker 3: enforcement officials, all of whom ran the Department of Justice 126 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:40,760 Speaker 3: or directed the FBI when Epstein's crimes were investigated and prosecuted. 127 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:46,240 Speaker 3: Of those eight, only one appeared before the committee. Five 128 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:49,680 Speaker 3: of the six former attorneys general were allowed to submit 129 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:55,200 Speaker 3: brief statements stating they had no information to provide. You 130 00:07:55,280 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 3: have held zero public hearings, refused to allow the media 131 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:03,760 Speaker 3: to attend them, including today, Despite espousing the need for 132 00:08:03,880 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 3: transparency on dozens of occasions, you have made little effort. 133 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:13,120 Speaker 1: So what's important about this particular part of her testimony? 134 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:14,960 Speaker 1: And this is what they also say in the letter 135 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 1: data January twelfth from the attorneys She's making it very 136 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:24,080 Speaker 1: clear that the people who had the responsibility to investigate, 137 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 1: to prosecute to an insured indictment of this criminal, Jeffrey Epstein. 138 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:32,600 Speaker 1: You allow them to submit written statements. Five of the 139 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 1: six former attorneys general who would have Again, so we're clear, 140 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:40,320 Speaker 1: the attorney general is the person who oversees the full 141 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 1: Department of Justice, that is, who is responsible for filing 142 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 1: charges against a criminal that's committed federal crimes. So she's saying, 143 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:52,280 Speaker 1: of the six, five of them were able to submit 144 00:08:52,760 --> 00:08:55,959 Speaker 1: a written statement. But y'all got me up here, what 145 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:58,160 Speaker 1: do you expect me to tell you I don't even 146 00:08:58,240 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 1: know this man. 147 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:00,160 Speaker 2: Let's roll the clip. 148 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:03,560 Speaker 3: To call the people who show up most prominently in 149 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:07,760 Speaker 3: the Epstein files, and when you did, not a single 150 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:12,760 Speaker 3: Republican member showed up for less Wexner's deposition. 151 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 1: This is a quick note just to say less Wexner 152 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:20,959 Speaker 1: in case Syaw missed, it is Victoria's secret. 153 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 2: Less Wexner and he. 154 00:09:23,280 --> 00:09:28,040 Speaker 1: Was all in and through the Epstein files, So let's 155 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:30,560 Speaker 1: just be clear about that. She's like, he's one of 156 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:35,400 Speaker 1: the biggest names in these files, clearly associated with Jeffrey 157 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:40,439 Speaker 1: Epstein in his ways and the American public who want 158 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:41,080 Speaker 1: to hear from him. 159 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:42,679 Speaker 2: You would think, since this. 160 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:46,320 Speaker 1: Is not political theater allegedly, that the Republicans who are 161 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:48,079 Speaker 1: on the Oversight and Government Reform. 162 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:50,719 Speaker 2: Committee would have showed up. They didn't show up that day. 163 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:51,560 Speaker 2: Let's roll the clip. 164 00:09:51,880 --> 00:09:56,600 Speaker 3: This institutional failure is designed to protect one political party 165 00:09:56,760 --> 00:10:00,560 Speaker 3: and one public official, rather than to seek truth and 166 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 3: justice for the victims and survivors, as well as informed 167 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:06,840 Speaker 3: the public who want to get to the bottom of 168 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:11,040 Speaker 3: this matter. My heart breaks for the survivors, and I 169 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:15,400 Speaker 3: am furious on their behalf. I have spent my life 170 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:18,960 Speaker 3: advocating for women and girls. I have worked hard to 171 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:22,720 Speaker 3: stop the terrible abuses so many women and girls face 172 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:27,800 Speaker 3: here and around the world, including human trafficking, forced labor, 173 00:10:27,960 --> 00:10:32,840 Speaker 3: domestic violence, and sexual slavery. For too long, these have 174 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:36,920 Speaker 3: been largely invisible crimes or not treated as crimes at all. 175 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 3: But the survivors are real and they are entitled to justice. 176 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:45,800 Speaker 3: In Southeast Asia, I met girls as young as twelve 177 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:49,840 Speaker 3: years old who had been forced into prostitution and raped repeatedly. 178 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:52,200 Speaker 4: Some were dying of aids. 179 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:55,920 Speaker 3: In Eastern Europe, I met mothers who told me how 180 00:10:55,960 --> 00:10:58,840 Speaker 3: they lost their daughters to trafficking and did not know 181 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:02,160 Speaker 3: where to turn. In settings around the world, I met 182 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:05,679 Speaker 3: survivors trying to rebuild their lives and help rescue others, 183 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:10,640 Speaker 3: with little support from people in power, who too often turned. 184 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:12,720 Speaker 4: A blind eye and a cold shoulder. 185 00:11:13,559 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 3: If you are new to this issue, let me tell 186 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:21,079 Speaker 3: you Jeffrey Epstein was a highness individual, but he's far 187 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 3: from alone. This is not a one off tabloid sensation 188 00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 3: or political scandal. It is a global scourge with an 189 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:35,120 Speaker 3: unimaginable human toll. My work combating sex trafficking goes back 190 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:38,560 Speaker 3: to my days as first Lady. I worked to pass 191 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:42,200 Speaker 3: the first federal legislation against trafficking, and was proud that 192 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 3: my husband signed the Trafficking Victims Protection Act, which increased 193 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:51,480 Speaker 3: support for survivors and gave prosecutors better tools for going 194 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 3: after traffickers. As Secretary of State, I appointed a former 195 00:11:56,720 --> 00:12:01,240 Speaker 3: federal prosecutor, Lucy Debaca, to ramp up our global anti 196 00:12:01,280 --> 00:12:06,280 Speaker 3: trafficking efforts. I oversaw nearly one hundred and seventy anti 197 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:11,600 Speaker 3: trafficking programs in seventy nations and directly pressed foreign leaders 198 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:16,600 Speaker 3: to crack down on trafficking networks in their countries. Every year, 199 00:12:16,640 --> 00:12:20,240 Speaker 3: we published a global report to shine a light on abuses. 200 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:24,800 Speaker 3: The findings of those reports triggered sanctions on countries failing 201 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:29,280 Speaker 3: to make progress, so they became a powerful diplomatic tool 202 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:34,320 Speaker 3: to drive concrete action. I insisted that the United States 203 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:37,160 Speaker 3: be included in the report for the first time ever 204 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:41,080 Speaker 3: in twenty eleven, because we must hold ourselves not just 205 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:43,400 Speaker 3: to the same standard as the rest of the world, 206 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:47,679 Speaker 3: but to an even higher one. Sex trafficking and modern 207 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:53,840 Speaker 3: slavery should have no place in America. None Infuriatingly, the 208 00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:57,880 Speaker 3: Trump administration gutted the Trafficking in Persons Office at the 209 00:12:57,920 --> 00:13:02,120 Speaker 3: State Department, cutting more than seventy percent of the career 210 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:07,080 Speaker 3: civil and foreign service experts who worked so hard to 211 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:12,679 Speaker 3: prevent trafficking crimes. The annual trafficking report required by law 212 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 3: was delayed for months. The message from the Trump administration 213 00:13:17,559 --> 00:13:21,000 Speaker 3: to the American people and the world could not be clearer. 214 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:26,360 Speaker 3: Combating human trafficking is no longer an American priority under 215 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:27,600 Speaker 3: the Trump White House. 216 00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:31,280 Speaker 1: What I think is important about this moment is Hillary 217 00:13:31,320 --> 00:13:35,120 Speaker 1: Clinton is laying the groundwork for why not only should 218 00:13:35,160 --> 00:13:38,199 Speaker 1: she not be testifying before this committee, but she also 219 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:42,120 Speaker 1: has a historic record of doing the exact opposite of 220 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:45,600 Speaker 1: everything Jeffrey Epstein stood for. So she talked about her 221 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 1: work as First Lady. She talked about her work as 222 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:51,880 Speaker 1: Secretary of State. She talked about the law, the bill 223 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:54,720 Speaker 1: that got signed into law under Bill Clinton's leadership under 224 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:57,120 Speaker 1: his presidency because of the work she was doing. She 225 00:13:57,200 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 1: talked about one hundred and seventy pro globally that she 226 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:03,480 Speaker 1: was responsible for overseeing as. 227 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:04,400 Speaker 2: Secretary of State. 228 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:07,680 Speaker 1: And the key part of what she said here, while 229 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:11,000 Speaker 1: they have hauled her and former President Bill Clinton before 230 00:14:11,040 --> 00:14:14,120 Speaker 1: the committee to testify is that the reason you're not 231 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:17,240 Speaker 1: seeing this kind of work being done now under this 232 00:14:17,280 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 1: Trump administration is because they've cut not only the funding, 233 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:25,520 Speaker 1: but seventy percent of the staff who were responsible for 234 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 1: holding that portfolio of work at the State Department. So 235 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:33,920 Speaker 1: she talks about why is Marco Rubio not testifying before 236 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:37,360 Speaker 1: the committee. It's not because Jeffrey Epstein's case is in 237 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:41,200 Speaker 1: his purview. It's because he has the ability, the authority, 238 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:46,960 Speaker 1: the latitude to take this problem, this global issue, this 239 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:50,920 Speaker 1: global crisis by the Horns and deploy staff and programs 240 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:54,600 Speaker 1: to ensure that women and girls are not trafficked, people 241 00:14:54,640 --> 00:14:58,840 Speaker 1: are not trafficked. Well, he would if the Trump administration 242 00:14:58,960 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 1: hadn't cut the funding. 243 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:01,000 Speaker 2: Let's keep rolling. 244 00:15:01,520 --> 00:15:06,240 Speaker 3: That's a tragedy, it's a scandal, and it deserves vigorous 245 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:12,479 Speaker 3: investigation and oversight. A committee endeavoring to stopping human trafficking 246 00:15:12,520 --> 00:15:16,760 Speaker 3: would seek to understand what specific steps are needed to 247 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:20,320 Speaker 3: fix a legal system that allowed Epstein to get away 248 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 3: with his crimes. A committee run by elected officials with 249 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:29,840 Speaker 3: a commitment to transparency would ensure the full release of 250 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:34,560 Speaker 3: all the files. It would ensure that the lawful redactions 251 00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:38,880 Speaker 3: of those files protected the victims and survivors, not powerful 252 00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 3: men and political allies. It would get to the bottom 253 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:49,240 Speaker 3: of reports that DOJ withheld FBI interviews in which a 254 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:54,880 Speaker 3: survivor accuses President Trump of crimes. It would subpoena anyone 255 00:15:54,920 --> 00:15:58,960 Speaker 3: who asked on which night there would be the wildest 256 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:05,000 Speaker 3: party on Epstein's island. It would demand testimony from prosecutors 257 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:08,720 Speaker 3: from Florida, New York and the Department of Justice about 258 00:16:08,760 --> 00:16:12,440 Speaker 3: why they gave Epstein a sweetheart deal and chose not 259 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:16,520 Speaker 3: to pursue others who may have been implicated in his crimes. 260 00:16:17,160 --> 00:16:17,880 Speaker 4: And it would. 261 00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 3: Demand that Secretary of Rubio and Attorney General Bondie testify 262 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:27,480 Speaker 3: about why this administration is abandoning survivors and playing into 263 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:31,320 Speaker 3: the hands of traffickers. It would seek out advocates and 264 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:34,480 Speaker 3: law enforcement of officials on the front lines of the 265 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:38,960 Speaker 3: fight against human trafficking and ask them what support they need. 266 00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:43,640 Speaker 3: And it would put forth legislation to provide more resources 267 00:16:43,720 --> 00:16:46,240 Speaker 3: and force this administration to act. 268 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:48,760 Speaker 4: But that's not happening. 269 00:16:49,640 --> 00:16:52,680 Speaker 3: Instead, you have compelled me to testify, fully aware that 270 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:56,760 Speaker 3: I have no knowledge that would assist your investigation. In 271 00:16:56,960 --> 00:17:00,400 Speaker 3: order to distract from President Trump's actions and to cover 272 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 3: them up despite legitimate calls for answers. If this committee 273 00:17:05,640 --> 00:17:09,160 Speaker 3: is serious about learning the truth about Epstein's traffic and crimes, 274 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:13,160 Speaker 3: it would not rely on press got gaggles to get 275 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:16,840 Speaker 3: answers from our current president on his involvement. It would 276 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:21,160 Speaker 3: ask him directly under oath about the tens of thousands 277 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:24,200 Speaker 3: of times he shows up in the Epstein files. 278 00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:28,400 Speaker 1: What I love about what she's doing here is she's 279 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:33,040 Speaker 1: telling them how the committee should be running its investigation. 280 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:36,000 Speaker 2: And one key fact that I skipped. 281 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:38,480 Speaker 1: Over or haven't had the opportunity to bring up Jesse yet, 282 00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:41,520 Speaker 1: is Hillary Clinton didn't just pop up, y'all one. 283 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:43,919 Speaker 2: Day as the first Lady of the United States. 284 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:47,840 Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton was a former Watergate staffer. 285 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:49,120 Speaker 2: That's right. 286 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:55,560 Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton was on the Nixon impeachment committee understanding uncovering 287 00:17:55,920 --> 00:18:00,360 Speaker 1: what happened at Watergate. She's telling them, let me give 288 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:02,760 Speaker 1: you the formula that break down the blueprint for how 289 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:06,359 Speaker 1: this is actually supposed to go, instead of me testifying 290 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:08,919 Speaker 1: because you guys think it makes for a salacious headliner 291 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:12,680 Speaker 1: fodder on your crazy right wing blogs. You should be 292 00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:16,520 Speaker 1: talking to the people who can actually inform you on 293 00:18:16,680 --> 00:18:20,399 Speaker 1: this investigation to protect women who have been traffic and 294 00:18:20,520 --> 00:18:21,760 Speaker 1: sexually assaulted. 295 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:24,919 Speaker 2: Not wasting your time on me because y'all love to 296 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:26,960 Speaker 2: hate Hillary. Let's roll the clue. 297 00:18:27,119 --> 00:18:29,800 Speaker 3: If the majority was serious, it would not waste time 298 00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:33,200 Speaker 3: on fishing expeditions. There is too much to be done. 299 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:37,640 Speaker 3: What is being held back, who is being protected, and 300 00:18:37,760 --> 00:18:42,000 Speaker 3: why the cover up? So my challenge to you, mister Chairman, 301 00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:44,560 Speaker 3: and members of this committee is the same challenge I 302 00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:48,520 Speaker 3: put to myself throughout my long service to this nation. 303 00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:52,400 Speaker 3: How to be worthy of the trust of the American 304 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:56,879 Speaker 3: people that they have given to you. They expect statesmanship, 305 00:18:57,400 --> 00:19:02,479 Speaker 3: not damesmanship, leading not grand standing, and they expect you 306 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:06,159 Speaker 3: to use your power to get to the truth and 307 00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:10,160 Speaker 3: to do more to help survivors of Epstein's crimes, as 308 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:13,119 Speaker 3: well as the millions more who are victims of sex 309 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:16,680 Speaker 3: trafficking in this country and around the world. 310 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:19,160 Speaker 4: Thank you, mister. 311 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:23,080 Speaker 3: Chairman, and I would also like to request that the 312 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:27,159 Speaker 3: video of this deposition be made available within twenty four hours, 313 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 3: as it has been for other witnesses. 314 00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:35,400 Speaker 1: I don't know why this woman was not the president 315 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:38,040 Speaker 1: of these United States, but when I tell y'all, I 316 00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:40,280 Speaker 1: am so happy to be born on October twenty sixth. 317 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:45,160 Speaker 1: Like Hillary rodd and Clinton, she was phenomenal, phenomenal, And 318 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:49,560 Speaker 1: I think part of it to me is the class, 319 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:54,320 Speaker 1: the poise, the moments where she was tested to her core. 320 00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:58,679 Speaker 1: She showed up brilliantly. She should do a masterclass on 321 00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:02,199 Speaker 1: how to testify in a hostile environment, because that's exactly 322 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:02,720 Speaker 1: where she was. 323 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:05,120 Speaker 2: She was on you know, in a. 324 00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:09,119 Speaker 1: Battle and in that last part where she says, the 325 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:15,040 Speaker 1: American people expect statesmanship, not gamesmanship. They expect leading and 326 00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:18,040 Speaker 1: not grandstanding, is exactly the point. And she's like, you 327 00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:20,359 Speaker 1: can release the tape because I know what I'm standing 328 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:21,120 Speaker 1: on business. 329 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:23,040 Speaker 2: I'm clear about the fact that I don't know this man. 330 00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:32,480 Speaker 1: Y'all about to make me know this man. But there 331 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:36,679 Speaker 1: was a moment that tested Hillary Rodham Clinton, and I 332 00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:39,720 Speaker 1: thought she might come across the table on this lady. Now, 333 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:43,280 Speaker 1: Nancy Mace represents a district in South Carolina. 334 00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:46,440 Speaker 2: Wants to run for governor, I. 335 00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:53,320 Speaker 1: Believe, and you know, really traffics in pissing people off. 336 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:56,560 Speaker 1: She's masterful at it and also being on the wrong 337 00:20:56,640 --> 00:21:00,480 Speaker 1: side of history. You've seen her in a battle in 338 00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:05,040 Speaker 1: committee rooms against Jasmine Crockett, and she really just she 339 00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:09,760 Speaker 1: pushes things too far. I think in this moment, if 340 00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:11,879 Speaker 1: I had to extend compassion at all, it would be 341 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:17,280 Speaker 1: because Nancy Mace has regularly talked about being a survivor herself, 342 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:22,280 Speaker 1: and because of that, I wonder if you know she 343 00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:25,399 Speaker 1: was triggered by something and this was her kind of 344 00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:27,560 Speaker 1: response in the way that she goes at Hillary Clinton. 345 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:29,120 Speaker 2: But I want you all to be your own judge 346 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:30,720 Speaker 2: of this. Let's roll the clip. We'll talk about it 347 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:32,120 Speaker 2: on the other side to. 348 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:34,480 Speaker 5: Your two more questions than we're going to pass it 349 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:38,560 Speaker 5: to Congressman Congresswoman Luna after Jeffrey Epstein was convicted, to 350 00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:41,600 Speaker 5: concern you at all that you had taken a substantial 351 00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:43,560 Speaker 5: amount of money from Jeffrey Epstein. 352 00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:46,680 Speaker 4: That's an inappropriate assumption. 353 00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:49,000 Speaker 3: I did not take a substantial amount of money from 354 00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:49,880 Speaker 3: Jeffrey Epstein. 355 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:51,000 Speaker 4: So far as I know. 356 00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:56,080 Speaker 3: Jeffrey Epstein contributed to the joint committee that was supporting 357 00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:59,280 Speaker 3: my Senate race, which was how much I believe I 358 00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:00,560 Speaker 3: was told twenty thousand dollars. 359 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:02,520 Speaker 6: You don't consider twenty thousand dollars substantial. 360 00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:06,119 Speaker 3: I do not consider it relevant to me because I 361 00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:08,280 Speaker 3: had no recollection that I ever knew that he gave 362 00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:08,800 Speaker 3: any money. 363 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:10,560 Speaker 6: So you don't talked to your donors. They gave twenty 364 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:11,880 Speaker 6: thousand dollars to your campaign. 365 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:14,560 Speaker 3: My understanding of the rules back then is that there 366 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:19,200 Speaker 3: was no coordination between the committee and the campaign. 367 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:21,680 Speaker 4: So no, I have no recollection. 368 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:23,880 Speaker 6: But that doesn't mean you can't speak to your donors. 369 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 6: That doesn't prohibit the dolls, not prohibit you speaking to it. 370 00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:28,960 Speaker 3: But I didn't know he was a donor as far 371 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:31,359 Speaker 3: as I knew, he was not a donor until I 372 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:31,760 Speaker 3: learned this. 373 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:35,400 Speaker 6: And Estima Maxwell was heavily involved with people you knew 374 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:36,080 Speaker 6: and were close to. 375 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:39,600 Speaker 4: I knew people that I knew knew her. 376 00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:42,600 Speaker 5: Yes, that's true, and you didn't you just shrug you 377 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:45,000 Speaker 5: didn't want to look into it, or nobody question. 378 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:48,480 Speaker 3: Now until her crimes were revealed and she was indicted 379 00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:53,680 Speaker 3: and tried and convicted. I don't think people knew very 380 00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:54,920 Speaker 3: much about at all. 381 00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:56,800 Speaker 2: And how do you know, Howard Lutnik. 382 00:22:57,440 --> 00:23:00,680 Speaker 1: I want to pause here really quick, And the reason 383 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:02,480 Speaker 1: I want to pause here really quick is because first 384 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:03,840 Speaker 1: I want to just take a moment, because I know 385 00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:07,560 Speaker 1: people at home, maybe listening to this conversation about this 386 00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:09,840 Speaker 1: back and forth about this twenty thousand dollars donation, and 387 00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:11,359 Speaker 1: this really wasn't the point I was trying to get to. 388 00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:13,240 Speaker 2: I want to get to something later, but. 389 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:17,920 Speaker 1: This particular point is fascinating to me because there are 390 00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:22,919 Speaker 1: coordinating committees and a twenty thousand dollars donation is actually 391 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:27,240 Speaker 1: not large. There are people that bundle or raise resources from, 392 00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:29,520 Speaker 1: you know, a bunch of different friends, and they could 393 00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:31,880 Speaker 1: bundle to the tune of a million, two million, three million, 394 00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:35,000 Speaker 1: five million, fifty million dollars because they have all of 395 00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:38,160 Speaker 1: their friends donate five thousand dollars. But it's like if 396 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:41,520 Speaker 1: you were selling candy bars back in the day and 397 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:44,119 Speaker 1: instead of you being and I used to eat my 398 00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:47,600 Speaker 1: candy bars, y'all don't tell them mama now, but you would, 399 00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:50,200 Speaker 1: you know, you would sell your candy bar, your candy 400 00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:52,119 Speaker 1: bar box. You would be responsible for your thing, to 401 00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:54,399 Speaker 1: raise money for your school, for your basketball team, whatever. 402 00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:58,880 Speaker 1: Now smarter kids would say, I'm gonna give you five 403 00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:01,240 Speaker 1: candy bars to sell these. This kid over here is 404 00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:03,359 Speaker 1: sell fire candid bars. You come back and give me in. 405 00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:04,840 Speaker 1: I'll make sure you be able to keep a dollar 406 00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:08,040 Speaker 1: or whatever. That's a business right. And so in a 407 00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:12,400 Speaker 1: similar way, people raise money for campaigns and they coordinate 408 00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:15,399 Speaker 1: so that they can raise more. At the same time, 409 00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:19,680 Speaker 1: somebody Jeffrey Epstein may have been asked by one of 410 00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:24,879 Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton's larger donors to pitch into a larger goal, 411 00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:28,560 Speaker 1: and it is absolutely normal for a candidate not to 412 00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:31,520 Speaker 1: speak to every donor. There's also something called call time 413 00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:36,760 Speaker 1: where members of Congress candidates will call around asking for money, 414 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:39,760 Speaker 1: especially to meet a deadline if there's an upcoming filing 415 00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:43,119 Speaker 1: deadline for fundraising, that kind of thing. But there are 416 00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:46,000 Speaker 1: a lot of instances, especially when it's a coordinated committee 417 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:50,679 Speaker 1: and you're not supposed to be having conversations with a 418 00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:54,440 Speaker 1: committee that is supporting you. That is very normal because 419 00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:55,800 Speaker 1: you don't want to run a foul of the law 420 00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:58,560 Speaker 1: or the rules. So that's also very normal. Now, this 421 00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:02,480 Speaker 1: conversation around the Secretary of commer the current Secretary of Commerce, 422 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:05,679 Speaker 1: who does have a deep relationship with Jeffrey Epstein, is 423 00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:11,520 Speaker 1: important because here we're getting into the nuance of humanity. Frankly, 424 00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:14,040 Speaker 1: and I think what Hillary Clinton is saying here is 425 00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:17,640 Speaker 1: really important. Her relationship as she gets ready to She's 426 00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:21,480 Speaker 1: about to describe was centered around nine to eleven, one 427 00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:25,359 Speaker 1: of the most terrorizing traumatic moments for New Yorkers. And 428 00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:31,480 Speaker 1: this is when Hillary Clinton was in New York representing 429 00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:33,160 Speaker 1: this area. So let's go ahead and roll this clip. 430 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:38,720 Speaker 3: I know Howard Lutnick because when I was Senator on 431 00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:43,080 Speaker 3: nine to eleven, the firm he headed, Canter Fitzgerald, suffered 432 00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:46,800 Speaker 3: the greatest loss of life. As I recall, something like 433 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:50,920 Speaker 3: six hundred and fifty of his employees were murdered by 434 00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:56,560 Speaker 3: terrorists that day. Howard Lutnick missed being a victim because 435 00:25:56,560 --> 00:26:00,760 Speaker 3: he was delayed dropping his child off to guard. You 436 00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:03,439 Speaker 3: asked the question, I'm going to answer your question. This 437 00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:07,800 Speaker 3: was what I spent my time doing. I'm trying to. 438 00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:10,399 Speaker 7: Look out for other survivers, trying and I was taking 439 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:14,120 Speaker 7: care of it, the people who lost here thousand lives. 440 00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:17,760 Speaker 7: And now you're being pregnant today. You asked me, I 441 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:21,520 Speaker 7: have now Epstein survivors. I'm a survivor myself. You have emails. 442 00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:24,000 Speaker 7: You've denied that Jeffrey Epstein that you tried to get 443 00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:26,680 Speaker 7: Jeffrey Epstein to give money to you did Howard Lutnick 444 00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:27,320 Speaker 7: was if you have. 445 00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:29,320 Speaker 3: An email with me asking Jeffrey I have. 446 00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:33,320 Speaker 7: Her money mail from Howard Lutnick sending it to Jeffrey 447 00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:34,080 Speaker 7: Epstein and. 448 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:35,200 Speaker 6: His people to raise money. 449 00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:37,520 Speaker 7: I do you know about an event, an intimate event 450 00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:42,760 Speaker 7: for you at his offices at Canna fitzgiald off the 451 00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:45,119 Speaker 7: skate and say to this committee, you didn't try to 452 00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:47,400 Speaker 7: get money from jeff Frey Epstein when there was an 453 00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:51,159 Speaker 7: intimate event in an email that Howard lud to email 454 00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:54,040 Speaker 7: to Epstein's people and Epstein to get him to come 455 00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:57,639 Speaker 7: to your intimate event at Canner Fitzgerald, a very small event. 456 00:26:57,800 --> 00:26:59,520 Speaker 7: And so I'm not gonna pub You want to yell 457 00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:02,360 Speaker 7: at me, that's fine, right, Well, I am looking out. 458 00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:04,080 Speaker 4: I'm doing the job that. 459 00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:06,080 Speaker 6: You would not do and refuse to do as Secretary 460 00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:06,480 Speaker 6: of State. 461 00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:08,040 Speaker 4: Thank you, and I feel back to no. 462 00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:10,359 Speaker 3: I'm going to finish answering the question, which I have 463 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:15,800 Speaker 3: a right to do. I am very sympathetic to your 464 00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:20,080 Speaker 3: personal situation. I have read about it, I have seen 465 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:24,280 Speaker 3: you testify or speak on the floor about it, and 466 00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:28,200 Speaker 3: I very much sympathize with not only what you went through, 467 00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:33,280 Speaker 3: but appreciate your effort to stand up for survivors. I 468 00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:38,119 Speaker 3: was a senator representing the people who were murdered on 469 00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:42,480 Speaker 3: nine to eleven. Nobody lost more people than Howard Lutnik. 470 00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:44,440 Speaker 3: You can say whatever you want, you can call them 471 00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:46,159 Speaker 3: and have them appear before the committee. 472 00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:48,000 Speaker 4: But I knew him. 473 00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:52,840 Speaker 3: I knew him as the man who lost the employees 474 00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:56,040 Speaker 3: that he knew intimately, including his brother. 475 00:27:56,680 --> 00:28:00,760 Speaker 7: And he was so ire money for you. 476 00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:04,320 Speaker 3: You know what, if you don't want to hear what 477 00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:06,879 Speaker 3: emotionally affected me, that's fine. 478 00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:09,400 Speaker 4: But that's why I know Howard Lutnik. 479 00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:13,840 Speaker 3: I went to the memorial service every nine eleven after 480 00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:16,360 Speaker 3: the formal service was held. 481 00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:21,760 Speaker 7: With all of his people of families, you and Jeffrey 482 00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:22,640 Speaker 7: Epstein raising money. 483 00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:26,000 Speaker 8: Well, you know, Howard Blutnick and I get work together 484 00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:29,080 Speaker 8: because we had a lot of victims than you did 485 00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:33,560 Speaker 8: take care of, and we work together to rebuild downtown Manhattan. 486 00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:35,280 Speaker 4: That is how I know Howard Blutnick. 487 00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:39,520 Speaker 1: I and I want to stop here. Here's what I 488 00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:43,719 Speaker 1: think is remarkable about this. And if Nancy Mace doesn't 489 00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:45,720 Speaker 1: know this yet, she'll soon find out. I don't know 490 00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:48,560 Speaker 1: how much money she's raised as a member of Congress 491 00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:51,640 Speaker 1: to hold her seat, but certainly, when you run statewide, 492 00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:54,560 Speaker 1: as Hillary Clinton had done, people will hold events for you. 493 00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:57,280 Speaker 1: They will hold very intimate events for you. They will 494 00:28:57,320 --> 00:29:01,040 Speaker 1: be at law offices, they will be with financial services companies, 495 00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:07,000 Speaker 1: whether it's private equity or venture capital or bankers. There 496 00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:10,440 Speaker 1: will be labor unions that will hold events for you. 497 00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:17,280 Speaker 1: And when people hold events for you, generally speaking, there 498 00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:21,200 Speaker 1: is a fundraising committee, and generally there are people who 499 00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:24,560 Speaker 1: are chairs or co chairs of that fundraising committee. And 500 00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:27,200 Speaker 1: the chairs and the co chairs of that fundraising committee 501 00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:30,440 Speaker 1: have a certain threshold, a certain goal, and the committees, 502 00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:33,000 Speaker 1: the committee members have a certain goal, and they will 503 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:34,920 Speaker 1: reach out to their friends, people who they know they 504 00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:38,200 Speaker 1: can count on, who normally will give without asking them why. 505 00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:44,520 Speaker 1: There is nothing whatsoever that implicates Hillary Clinton on an 506 00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:49,880 Speaker 1: email from Howard Lutnik to Jeffrey Epstein for a fundraiser, 507 00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:56,120 Speaker 1: there's not as frustrating as that might be for people 508 00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:57,280 Speaker 1: to understand at home. 509 00:29:57,640 --> 00:29:59,160 Speaker 2: There are people who are. 510 00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:01,920 Speaker 1: Reached out to all the time to go to these events, 511 00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:04,640 Speaker 1: and they're normally on the wealthier side. We are very 512 00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:08,960 Speaker 1: clear that Jeffrey Epstein was wealthy himself and ran in 513 00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:12,960 Speaker 1: the circles of the elite of the rich and famous 514 00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:14,520 Speaker 1: of this country. 515 00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:17,239 Speaker 2: That is the truth. Now, whether Nancy wants to hear 516 00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:19,240 Speaker 2: it or not, that is the truth. And with Hillary 517 00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:20,680 Speaker 2: Clinton is sharing is very compelling. 518 00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:23,560 Speaker 1: This man lost how many employees in the World Trade 519 00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:25,840 Speaker 1: Center attack, including his own brother. 520 00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:30,160 Speaker 2: She was the senator representing New York. 521 00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:33,440 Speaker 1: Of course she's going to have a relationship with this 522 00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:36,080 Speaker 1: man now, I'm sure she also she said very clearly, 523 00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:39,280 Speaker 1: bring his ass before this committee and have him testify. Right, 524 00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:42,880 Speaker 1: So all of that is happening. There's a lot more 525 00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:43,400 Speaker 1: to unpack. 526 00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:43,640 Speaker 2: I know. 527 00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:46,719 Speaker 1: We're going to do that tomorrow on our show, our 528 00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:49,560 Speaker 1: main show. We record tomorrow, it will drop Thursday. We 529 00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:52,200 Speaker 1: will keep going. If you all haven't seen it, go 530 00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:56,320 Speaker 1: do the homework today, go and watch Hillary Clinton's full 531 00:30:56,360 --> 00:31:01,280 Speaker 1: testimony before the Oversight and Government Reform Committee. I want 532 00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:04,880 Speaker 1: you all to take notes, because again it is a masterclass. 533 00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:07,680 Speaker 1: In that moment when Nancy, when Nancy Mas was get 534 00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:10,360 Speaker 1: her she said, you know what, I felt that in 535 00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:12,360 Speaker 1: that moment that you know what. 536 00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:14,880 Speaker 2: My response on the other side of you know what. 537 00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:16,760 Speaker 1: Would have been, I'm a tech write, it would have 538 00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:19,440 Speaker 1: been a full on cuss out. Hillary Clinton is a 539 00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:24,920 Speaker 1: masterclass at diplomacy, at being able to check yourself and 540 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:29,480 Speaker 1: pause and being grounded and bringing people into her own experience. 541 00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:31,360 Speaker 1: She said, if you don't want to hear about my 542 00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:34,200 Speaker 1: emotions at the time, that's fine. But I have the 543 00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:37,600 Speaker 1: right to answer this question. Let us study it, let 544 00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:39,400 Speaker 1: us hear the truth that comes out of her mouth. 545 00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:41,120 Speaker 1: She was put in a position to have to answer 546 00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:44,800 Speaker 1: questions about what her husband was doing when she wasn't there. 547 00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:47,360 Speaker 1: Not fair. She's been having to answer those questions for 548 00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:51,120 Speaker 1: too long. It was brilliant. And speaking of brilliant, I 549 00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:53,800 Speaker 1: want you, if you are in Arkansas, if you are 550 00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:57,200 Speaker 1: in Texas, or if you are in North Carolina today, 551 00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:59,760 Speaker 1: I want you to go and be brilliant and vote 552 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:03,360 Speaker 1: in your primaries. There are some amazing people on the 553 00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:07,680 Speaker 1: ticket and every single one of these states. But I 554 00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:09,720 Speaker 1: want us to deepen into just for a moment, because 555 00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:12,440 Speaker 1: it's been a hot topic, into the race of our 556 00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:16,440 Speaker 1: dear sister, Jasmine Crocket. There's been a lot of stuff flying, 557 00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:19,320 Speaker 1: a lot of stuff that is not cool, and so 558 00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:23,120 Speaker 1: I want us to remind each other of the greatness 559 00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:25,240 Speaker 1: of black women. On the other side of Black History 560 00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:28,520 Speaker 1: Month and now fully into Women's History Month because our 561 00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:32,000 Speaker 1: dear sister Ayana Presley showed up for Jasmine Crockett just 562 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:35,200 Speaker 1: this past weekend and it was amazing, and it reminds 563 00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:37,680 Speaker 1: me of the importance of sisterhood when things are tough, 564 00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:40,280 Speaker 1: when people are coming at your character, when they're being 565 00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:43,800 Speaker 1: racist and gaslin you pretending that it's not racism at all, 566 00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:46,120 Speaker 1: when people are trying to say that you don't deserve 567 00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:49,360 Speaker 1: to be somewhere. And Jasmine has demonstrated time and time 568 00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:52,600 Speaker 1: again that she represents us so well in the face 569 00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:56,200 Speaker 1: of everything that's going on. She has been courageous and 570 00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:58,680 Speaker 1: she has run all the way through the tape on 571 00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:00,920 Speaker 1: this race. So I hope you all, if you're voting 572 00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:04,000 Speaker 1: today in Texas, that number one, if you can vote 573 00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:06,280 Speaker 1: in Texas, that you do vote in Texas. And I 574 00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:08,800 Speaker 1: want you all to hear from my dear sister Ayana 575 00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:12,640 Speaker 1: Presley on why she is supporting Jasmine Crockett. 576 00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:13,239 Speaker 2: Let's roll this. 577 00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:17,200 Speaker 9: People are very accustomed to black women being the mule 578 00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:23,920 Speaker 9: for this country because we carry everybody when all and 579 00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:25,200 Speaker 9: Julia Cooper. 580 00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:30,320 Speaker 10: Says, when and where I enter the entire race enters 581 00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:30,800 Speaker 10: with me. 582 00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:35,280 Speaker 9: That has been the role of Black women throughout history 583 00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:39,960 Speaker 9: of the entire human race enters with us. Jasmine honors 584 00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:43,360 Speaker 9: that long standing tradition of black women throughout history as 585 00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:46,520 Speaker 9: truth telling us, as justice secrets. 586 00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:51,040 Speaker 10: As architects have changed. So I was not going to 587 00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:52,600 Speaker 10: allow them to try. 588 00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:56,120 Speaker 9: To minimize her impact, to contain her as a cheerleader 589 00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:59,400 Speaker 9: for the party or as a clap back queen. 590 00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:09,600 Speaker 10: But the second she needs is a divine assignment and 591 00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:10,719 Speaker 10: it raises her head. 592 00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:12,239 Speaker 4: Now you have a crop. 593 00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:16,160 Speaker 9: So I had to be here because she is the 594 00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:19,880 Speaker 9: most qualified, She is the most primed and record. 595 00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:25,480 Speaker 10: We don't have judge about her. We know about her 596 00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:30,920 Speaker 10: job pros, having concurrency on the state. 597 00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:35,440 Speaker 9: Level bat Win, Texas Republicans here meeting the moment on 598 00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:39,919 Speaker 9: the national stage, and of course her fine legal month. 599 00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:45,960 Speaker 9: And we need that righteousness in the Senate, especially now because. 600 00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:48,239 Speaker 10: When we get a majority back, when we do our part, 601 00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:51,120 Speaker 10: we keep sending things over to the Senate and to 602 00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:54,480 Speaker 10: die is certain death. And that is why we need 603 00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:56,680 Speaker 10: Jasmine Crowthey of the Senate, and that's why we need 604 00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:57,239 Speaker 10: her now. 605 00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:01,160 Speaker 1: I love that it's such as moment. I know this 606 00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:04,759 Speaker 1: race has been so trying for our dear sister Jasmine Kracket. 607 00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:08,279 Speaker 1: I'm sending prayers her way and sending so much gratitude 608 00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:11,919 Speaker 1: Tuyana Presley, because many of us know black women who 609 00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:14,680 Speaker 1: fit that bill know exactly what she's talking about. In 610 00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:17,520 Speaker 1: every industry in this country, we have been the middle 611 00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:17,879 Speaker 1: of the world. 612 00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:19,600 Speaker 2: That is what Zora Neil Hurston said. 613 00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:23,200 Speaker 1: But we also know that we are worthy of the 614 00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:26,080 Speaker 1: labor that we give, worthy of every gift, and are 615 00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:29,600 Speaker 1: so excited to share those gifts with you all. 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