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Speaker 3: Here we go. It is a Thursday. Welcome in. It's

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Speaker 3: the Herd. You gotta play hurt man, You're not always

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Speaker 3: however you may be watching or listening. Thanks for making

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Speaker 3: us part of your day. So you were at the

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Speaker 3: Spurs Lakers game last night? Lakers went close late years

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Speaker 3: and years ago, this was probably twenty years ago. I

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Speaker 3: was talking to an NBA exec. I was court side

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Speaker 3: of a game, and I got there early. Did you

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Speaker 3: get there early last night?

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Speaker 4: Not early enough?

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Speaker 5: All right?

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Speaker 3: So you get there really early an hour and a

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Speaker 3: half before, and like people come by and he said

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Speaker 3: something to me, and it's how I want to start

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Speaker 3: my show. Stars in the NBA in basketball It's not

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Speaker 3: like baseball. They don't have slumps. They can have a

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Speaker 3: bad quarter, but guys like Luca are always going to

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Speaker 3: get theirs. The late Kobe Wilt, Jerry Wett. It doesn't matter.

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Speaker 3: Stars get theirs. Great coaching is taking a B minus

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Speaker 3: player and making him a B plus player, taking a

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Speaker 3: C plus player and making him a B player. You're

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Speaker 3: not going to turn Brody James into Lebron James. You're

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Speaker 3: not going to jump a grade and a half. But

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Speaker 3: that's what JJ Reddick did and he's doing this year.

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Speaker 3: Ruey Hachamora is a good B player. He's playing like

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Speaker 3: an A player. He's shooting sixty percent from the field.

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Speaker 3: He's shooting forty seven percent from three. That's an A

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Speaker 3: player career high end score. Now, it's early in the

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Speaker 3: NBA season where even the Chicago Bulls are winning right Like,

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Speaker 3: nobody's playing defense now. But the two biggest plays in

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Speaker 3: last night's game could have been Ruie took a big charge,

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Speaker 3: hit a big three. That is what JJ Reddick is doing.

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Speaker 3: So last night, you didn't have Lebron, you didn't have

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Speaker 3: Austin Reeves. A couple of nights ago, you didn't have Luca,

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Speaker 3: So it's mix and match, but he's doing a great job,

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Speaker 3: especially on offense, to squeeze the juice out of his

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Speaker 3: mid level players, like, for instance, DeAndre Ayton, who there

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Speaker 3: they got for free. Basically portland'span his salary. DeAndre Ayton's

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Speaker 3: hot and cold. He's played very well, the best he's played.

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Speaker 3: The Lakers lead the NBA and field goal percentage. They're

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Speaker 3: five to zero in close games. Yet lucas one of

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Speaker 3: the top two to three players in the world and

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Speaker 3: skinny jeans, Luca is unstoppable rebounds, assists, points, putbacks. He's

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Speaker 3: gonna get his. Kobeohwa's got his. But can you take

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Speaker 3: those bee guys? Go back to Phil Jackson, what he

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Speaker 3: got out of a Rick Fox or a Derek Fisher.

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Speaker 3: That's the key to this stuff. What do you get

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Speaker 3: out of your number four starter? I mean, just last week,

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Speaker 3: Austin Reeves look like Luca And I think that's what

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Speaker 3: I watch with JJ Reddick that in basketball, the top

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Speaker 3: ten global stars are just gonna always get theirs. Can

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Speaker 3: you squeeze stuff out of the B minus guys? And

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Speaker 3: this year if you look at the last two seasons,

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Speaker 3: because now the culture's been built by JJ Reddick, all

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Speaker 3: without Lebron James this year six points a game more,

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Speaker 3: and the new pieces Old Marcus Smart, veteran DeAndre Ayton,

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Speaker 3: the young kid, Jake Larevia. They're all playing the best

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Speaker 3: they've played right now. They're all playing excellent basketball. And

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Speaker 3: the Lakers are not a good defensive team. They don't

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Speaker 3: have a great defensive rim protector. They're not super athletic

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Speaker 3: the wing. But Wemby fouled out last night. Wemby shoots

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Speaker 3: thirty five percent from the floor. They imposed their will

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Speaker 3: not going to have many games as ugly and inartistic

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Speaker 5: That was always always Phil Jackson.

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Speaker 3: Kobe would have been great, Michael would have been great

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Speaker 3: with or without Phil Jackson. But it was Phil's ability

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Speaker 3: and they're doing it without Lebron and it's what championship

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Speaker 3: teams do. It's what Dave Roberts did with Miguel Rojas

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Speaker 3: for the Dodgers. Otani's eventually going to get his. Eventually,

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Speaker 3: Freddie Freeman's going to get his. Can you take the

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Speaker 3: Reddick talks about the win and his current culture.

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Speaker 6: Sometimes the things you emphasize and the things that make

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Speaker 2: Becomes your team.

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Speaker 6: And that doesn't always happen, but that was a priority

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Speaker 6: for us coming into this season. We're just constantly encouraging

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Speaker 6: and empowering our guys to get connected. I believe that

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Speaker 6: if you're connected off the floor, you're connected.

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Speaker 3: I got to tell you, the city of Los Angeles

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Speaker 3: has really good coaches. McVeigh and Harbaugh, JJ Reddick, Dave Roberts.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's pretty remarkable. There's some even our college

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Speaker 3: and again it's early. Nobody plays defense in October and

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Speaker 3: November in the NBA, they really don't. A lot of

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Speaker 3: but in a very crowded West. Remember long stretches. Lebron

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Speaker 3: hasn't played. Austen Reeves is out now, Luca's miss games.

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Speaker 3: It's what he's doing with Aighton, It's what he's doing

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Speaker 3: best basketball of his career. Ruey's a nice player. He's

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Speaker 3: I was here on Tuesday, sick yesterday, and Tuesday was

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Speaker 3: the trade deadline show. And I'll say this, I've been

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Speaker 3: very critical of the Dallas Cowboys for a long time,

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Speaker 3: but I am in total disagreement. I watched a little

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Speaker 3: of shows yesterday. I'm in total disagreement with virtually every

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Speaker 3: the things I liked about the Micah move it created

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Speaker 3: liquidation and flexibility and diversification. They were going to be

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Speaker 3: too top heavy, and Jerry Jones is a deal maker,

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Speaker 3: and if they signed Luca between Ceedee Lamb and Dak

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Speaker 3: they just have no flexibility, no diversification.

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Speaker 5: They'd be top heavy.

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Speaker 3: So I think one of the things that's being overlooked

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Speaker 3: They retained they kept both number one picks in this

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Speaker 5: That's a big deal.

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Speaker 3: They gave up a first the draft after because this

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Speaker 3: draft has two things that benefit the Cowboys. Tons of

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Speaker 3: good edge rushers. Now with Kenny Clark and Quinn Williams

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Speaker 3: And so the draft has an edge rusher replaced Micah

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Speaker 5: So that's what I love.

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Speaker 3: The second thing is Dallas is saying, and I totally

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Speaker 3: agree with them, by acquiring Quinn Williams and Kenny Clark,

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Speaker 3: what they're telling you is they view interior defensive linemen

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Speaker 3: as more valuable than edge rushers. And I'm here to

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Speaker 3: tell you I totally agree. The New England Patriots this

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Speaker 3: year spent money on interior defensive line, number one rush

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Speaker 3: really good interior defensive line spends money on it? The

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Speaker 3: Colts top five run defense. Here are the teams that

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Speaker 3: have excellent interior defensive linemen. Tampa, Seattle, Denver, Colts, Patriots, Rams, Eagles.

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Speaker 3: That's a different body type. Edge rushers are like wide receivers.

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Speaker 3: You can find tall guy guy, great athletes six four

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Speaker 3: Feet that's What Quinn williams. Has, Okay So Kenny clark

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Speaker 3: And Quinn williams give you, LIKE i, mean what's the

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Speaker 3: strength Of philadelphia this? Year why can't The rams Beat?

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Speaker 3: Philadelphia because they can't Block davis and the kid out Of.

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Speaker 3: Them that's why they lost this year Against. Phillyots why

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Speaker 3: they lost in the playoffs last. Year they're struggling to

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Speaker 3: block those. Guys So dallas has, said we Love, micah

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Speaker 3: but will take flexibility and INTERIOR d line over an

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Speaker 3: expensive edge. Rusher Julian edelman was On my show On

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Speaker 3: tuesday and he talked about this during The patriots. Dynasty

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Speaker 5: Credit he, said it's the INTERIOR d.

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Speaker 7: Line we wouldn't have been The New England patriots if

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Speaker 7: it wasn't For seymour Or Will fork like we had.

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Speaker 7: There and there's a bunch of other Guys branch and

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Speaker 7: Part if you got a guy that can take away two,

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Speaker 7: know coverage for your secondary and you can get more.

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Speaker 3: Creative, yeah AND i everybody's, like, Oh dallas is making bad.

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Speaker 3: Moves what they did is they, said we don't want

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Speaker 5: Salaries we want more.

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Speaker 3: Flexibility go ask any great business person what they. Want

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Speaker 3: it's not just, assets it's the ability to acquire them

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Speaker 5: Them they want.

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Speaker 3: Flexibility dallas couldn't afford a running Back Dereck henry for

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Speaker 3: eight million dollars two years. Ago jerry's an, Entrepreneur jerry's a.

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Speaker 3: Businessman his hands were. Tied he Didn't he wanted, flexibility

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Speaker 3: the ability to. Diversify and then they moved their importance

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Speaker 3: on defense from the. Edge inside every EXECUTIVE i talk,

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Speaker 3: a deep threat receiver For Sam darnold's. Why how many

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Speaker 3: people on the planet run a four to two eight

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Speaker 3: williams is a unique body. Type Chris. Jones i'm not

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Speaker 3: Saying Miles garrett isn't a great edge, rusher but you

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Speaker 3: i'm not Saying Max crosby's not. Amazing but when you

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Speaker 3: can get that great left, tackle that receiver that runs

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Speaker 3: a four to two, nine that interior defensive lineman with good,

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Speaker 3: feet it's just more valuable than an edge.

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Speaker 5: Rusher SO i like What dallas has.

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Speaker 3: Done Lebron james still not.

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Speaker 5: Playing apparently he's getting closer to, playing.

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Speaker 4: Ramping up to five on, five should be back By.

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Speaker 4: Thanksgiving it's going to be interesting to see how he Meshes.

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Speaker 4: Colin The lakers vibes are amazing right. Now everybody Understands

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Speaker 3: Him AND i think the delta Between lebron And luca

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Speaker 3: Luca this Is luca's team by a significant.

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Speaker 4: Stretch does it feel like a guy who was the

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Speaker 5: Things have changed.

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Speaker 4: Here it feels like everybody's catering To, luca WHICH i

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Speaker 4: sit in to that? Offense it could be, clunky or

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Speaker 3: HEY i Got lebron's always been better on ball than

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Speaker 3: If wemby. DOESN'T i Think luca is going to jump

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Speaker 3: over The SGAs The honises this. Year it's going to

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Speaker 3: Lebron james has not played this. Year he will not

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Speaker 3: reportedly go on The lakers five game road. Trip he's

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Speaker 3: got a sciatica issue that's a nerve in the lower

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Speaker 3: my least favorite quality in men is high maintenance and.

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Speaker 3: Neediness And i'm not Saying lebron's doing, that but there are.

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Speaker 3: Those there's some supposition That lebron has his feeling, hurt

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Speaker 3: la and this has always Been The lakers have always

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Speaker 3: magic To shack To kobe To, lebron and it's clearly been.

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Speaker 3: Passed not only an ownership from the bus family to

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Speaker 3: The dodgers. Owners but now It's luca's, team and The

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Speaker 3: lakers don't Need lebron to sell, tickets just like they

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Speaker 3: didn't Need kareem to sell, tickets just like eventually they

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Speaker 3: always somebody IN la making a, debut and they're In Los.

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Speaker 3: very few. EXCEPTIONS i also feel like the league has

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Speaker 3: lebron was never In Los angeles nearly as popular As.

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Speaker 3: MAGIC i think he's like he's in The kareem popularity

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Speaker 3: Leave this is Not cleveland and it's not Even. Miami

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Speaker 3: WHEN i look At lebron right, now are his feelings

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Speaker 5: Bit does he feel like he should.

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Speaker 3: Have been offered a contract extension BECAUSE la Welcomed, lebron

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Speaker 3: they didn't worship. Him, sorry in my in my, Lifetime

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Speaker 3: magic's the most Popular laker of all, Time kobe's the

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Speaker 3: second most Popular laker of all. Time there's an Argument

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Speaker 3: Jerry west was the third most Popular laker of all.

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Speaker 5: Time lebron's.

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Speaker 3: Not and and you got to remember For Rich paul And,

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Speaker 3: lebron and again maybe they maybe they aren't in their.

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Speaker 3: Fields But, lebron do you realize The lakers in his entire,

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Speaker 3: an interloper and short signed one year deals for most

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Speaker 3: of his. Career so nobody's gonna lose any sleep if

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Speaker 3: they're a little less loyal To lebron Than lebron. Wants

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Speaker 3: he may understand all of, this he may get absolutely

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Speaker 3: you can feel. It lebron is going to have to

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Speaker 3: play off. Ball it Is lucas. Team it IS Jj

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Speaker 3: reddick's vision for most Of lebron's. CAREER i always said,

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Speaker 3: This Kevin durant could play. Anywhere you can get him

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Speaker 5: Shot, clock he can hit.

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Speaker 3: Shots Steph curry And lebron become your offensive. Ecosystem Golden

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Speaker 3: state has. Discovered young guys don't work With Steph. Curry

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Speaker 3: it's just too. Hard it's just too, quick too, smart too.

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Speaker 3: Bogan young guys he struggles. With And lebron he has

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Speaker 3: been the. Centerpiece he's very opposite OF. Kd he becomes

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Speaker 3: cannot coach this organization going forward With lebron being a.

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Speaker 3: Centerpiece he's just an. Asset and there are nights That

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Speaker 3: Austin reeves needs the ball and has a mismatch. Advantage

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Speaker 3: Charles barkley was On Jim Rome show and just talked

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Speaker 9: Win there's nothing you can do about, it you. KNOW

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Speaker 9: Hurt you, know he's got to. ACCEPT i hope he

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Speaker 9: leaves sooner than. Later Obviously lebron's a better player than.

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Speaker 9: Me BUT i don't want to see great players just

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Speaker 3: On that's, Right Charles barkley nailed. It you don't want

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Speaker 3: a problem With lebron being, here but an extension.

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Speaker 5: These new, OWNERS i don't.

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Speaker 3: KNOW I in, FACT i would ARGUE i would take

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Speaker 3: An Austin reeves, extension and you know HOW i feel

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Speaker 3: about that over A lebron. Extension say what you want

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Speaker 3: About Austin, reeves but if you can keep him, Around,

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Speaker 3: lucas you're. One austin's your, three and then you go

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Speaker 3: find a two that feels like a championship level.

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Speaker 4: News this is me biting my. Tongue all, right let's

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Speaker 4: get started with The Philadelphia, Eagles, colin come. On they

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Speaker 4: are coming off of bye and have a huge game

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Speaker 4: against The Packers monday. Night packers not in The herd,

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Speaker 5: Eagles everybody Likes Green bay in this spot, right.

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Speaker 4: Everybody, does including. Me let's talk About Jalen, hurts though

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Speaker 4: Kevin patullo talking About hurts beautiful deep ball.

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Speaker 10: Accuracy he's unbelievable at, It like he does a tremendous

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Speaker 5: You know if you.

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Speaker 10: Guys here's where it's going to, Be here's What i'm

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Speaker 5: Things, Yeah packers And eagles is really.

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Speaker 4: Interesting top top three game of the Weekend niners rams is.

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Speaker 4: Phenomenal but, Uh Jalen hurts deep ball. Accuracy so you,

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Speaker 4: In college he doesn't get THE respect i think that,

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Speaker 4: he deserves and all he does every year is check

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Speaker 4: this okay here We. Go colin he's one of the

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Speaker 4: best deep ball throwers in the league this. SEASON period

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Speaker 3: Hell out he. Adds things there are things throwing over

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Speaker 3: the middle he's not, great at but. He adds there's

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Speaker 3: certain virtues he has with, his strength, his mobility, his toughness.

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Speaker 3: His maturity i've said. This before philadelphia is a loud,

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Speaker 3: sports city and there is value in having an adult be.

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Speaker 3: Your Quarterback right you've got to be able to deal

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Speaker 3: with talk radio and. The anger and they got their

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Speaker 3: security Guy IN sirian's i have said This about he

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Speaker 3: reminds Me of philadelphia's version Of dak is that you

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Speaker 3: have to Deal with jerry and An aggressive dallas me

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Speaker 3: and you're the centerpiece of. The league the Things that

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Speaker 3: jalen doesn't do have not hurt him much so far in.

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Speaker 3: HIS career i don't think he throws the ball over

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Speaker 3: the Middle Like matt stafford Does or. Mahomes does but,

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Speaker 4: OF dack, i MEAN if, i say if you're building

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Speaker 4: THESE quarterbacks i don't see Why Just jalen hurts wouldn't,

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Speaker 4: be like almost ideally the. Perfect quarterback he's got the.

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Speaker 3: Strong legs but the thing he is thrown for under

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Speaker 3: two hundred yards four times This year they've won all.

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Speaker 3: Four games so it's not a criticism to say he

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Speaker 3: Is Not. Josh allen he doesn't have that size or

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Speaker 3: Two HUNDRED if i, told, You yeah mahomes throws for under,

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Speaker 3: i Told, you philadelphia you'd be, Like perfect that's how they.

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Speaker 3: he does have one Thing Over. Josh allen he has

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Speaker 3: a victory Over the chiefs in. The postseason allen has

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Speaker 3: Bowl win, all right let's Move On.

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Speaker 4: Detroit, Lions colin i'm still smarting from that loss To,

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Speaker 11: games ago nine games, Ago now so we're trying to

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Speaker 11: get a win this year and maybe use that as

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Speaker 11: a little loud of motivation if we.

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Speaker 4: Need it so three starters on the offensive line did not.

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Speaker 4: Practice yesterday their.

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Speaker 5: Tackle are both. Banged up That. Was wednesday.

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Speaker 4: It's wednesday. It's early we'll see. What happens but the

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Speaker 4: line has. Come down this was eight and, a half

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Speaker 4: it's now seven and. A. Half, COMING yeah I know.

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Speaker 4: Washington Stinks dan campbell twelve to zero against the spread after.

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Speaker 4: A loss i Cannot take, washington here?

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Speaker 6: Can?

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Speaker 3: You No the lions are one of my. FAVORITE plays

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Speaker 3: i hope the line keeps. Coming DOWN so i also

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Speaker 3: Think the lions lost a home game where they, Rarely

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Speaker 3: lose so.

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Speaker 5: You're gonna get a great week.

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Speaker 3: Of, Practice meanwhile washington and all the trade, DEADLINE rumors

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Speaker 3: i think it's a is there a whiff of?

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Speaker 5: QUIT here i don't know if, it's.

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Speaker 3: Quit but not all locker rooms are the Same, By

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Speaker 3: november like there's.

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Speaker 5: A lot, i mean like right Now.

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Speaker 3: The jets you know that that's hard to motivate a

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Speaker 3: team when the ownership and the front office doesn't appear

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Speaker 3: to care about.

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Speaker 5: This SEASON so, i think you Know the Jade and.

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Speaker 3: Daniels Thing marcus mariota can, have stretches but it Feels

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Speaker 3: like detroit's the.

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Speaker 4: Play, Here yeah i'm kind of.

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Speaker 3: With.

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Speaker 4: YOU outdoors i need to check the weather and make

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Speaker 4: sure it's. Not sloppy but, then again why didn't ca't

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Speaker 4: stop the?

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00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:02,520
Speaker 5: Run anyway is?

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Speaker 2: Not good.

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Speaker 5: Final story let's go To Your.

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00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:07,359
Speaker 4: Chicago bears coming off that win Over the bengals and

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Speaker 4: now Hosting The Giant number day creeping up a. Little

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Speaker 4: Bit caleb williams had a solid game Against. THE bengals, i,

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00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:17,359
Speaker 4: mean hell. Everyone does caleb threw for two eighty and.

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Speaker 4: Three Touchdowns Here's ben johnson gassing up.

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Speaker 12: His quarterback some weeks are better, than others which. We

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Speaker 12: knew but he's a lot better place now with his

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Speaker 12: process than he was to start. The season you know

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Speaker 12: that whole the week isn't necessarily smooth, sailing ALWAYS but

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00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:39,199
Speaker 12: i think that's to be expected with year one in a.

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Speaker 12: New system so he's learning and he's spent a lot

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Speaker 12: of time. At It so i'm very pleased with, his

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Speaker 12: APPROACH and i think we've got the right group of

475
00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:48,760
Speaker 12: guys around him to help. Support HIM so i think

476
00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:50,480
Speaker 12: we're going to continue to see him take off here

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Speaker 12: second half.

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Speaker 3: The SEASON what i am hearing off the AIR when

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Speaker 3: i text people around, the league Everybody Loves. Ben, johnson

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00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:02,359
Speaker 3: yeah everybody Thinks the bears got the next great. Young

481
00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:05,520
Speaker 3: coach there's still a lot. Of doubt despite LEADING the

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Speaker 3: nfl in big, plays offensively there are still a lot

483
00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:13,000
Speaker 3: of Doubts. With, caleb people OLD school, nfl guys older

484
00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:17,480
Speaker 3: executives just don't think it looks as tight as it.

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Speaker 3: Should look in, MY take i Talked About. CAM newton

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Speaker 3: i think he's a there's a Lot Of. Cam Newton

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Speaker 3: cam newton's mechanics would drive. You crazy cam playing in

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00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:31,160
Speaker 3: structure would drive. You crazy, cam's inconsistency he never had

489
00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:34,479
Speaker 3: back to back. Winning seasons but you Couldn't deny. Cam's

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00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:37,800
Speaker 3: talent you Can't deny. Caleb's TALENT and i actually think That,

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Speaker 3: win sunday. That throw, you know he had a couple

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Speaker 3: of PLAYS that i just. DON'T think i think ninety

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Speaker 3: percent of the league doesn't MAKE so i. Don't know

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Speaker 3: it's not gonna look like a lot of other. Guys

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00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:53,800
Speaker 3: LOOK but i also think there's a confidence with. HIS

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Speaker 3: teammates i Really like, chicago's coaching, their PERSONNEL and i

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Speaker 3: think Not that caleb along for. A ride but he's

498
00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:03,760
Speaker 3: not gonna play like a lot of. Guys playing you

499
00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:04,760
Speaker 3: just have to come to terms.

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Speaker 4: With it it is only eight Games With. BEN johnson

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00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:10,920
Speaker 4: i was just. Looking Up So cam newton pled basically

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00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:13,720
Speaker 4: the same Head Coach ron rivera for like almost his

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00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:18,879
Speaker 4: entire Tenure. In, Carolina yeah caleb year two new coach.

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00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:20,840
Speaker 5: KNEW everything i.

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Speaker 4: Mean so i'm giving him. Some time i'm. WITH you

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00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:25,120
Speaker 4: i don't think he's, looked amazing but. Who cares they're

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00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:27,000
Speaker 4: winning and it has a lot to do with the.

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00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:30,320
Speaker 4: Run game, YOU know i got to say his, Name Eventually.

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00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:34,280
Speaker 4: Kyle manongai he's a little, Banged Up, DeAndre swift. BANGED

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00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:37,920
Speaker 4: Up dj moore. Miss practice adunze. Miss Practice so i'm a. Little,

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00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:42,359
Speaker 4: Concerned again it's, Only, today THURSDAY but I think i

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00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:43,159
Speaker 4: Like the, bears.

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Speaker 5: HERE Agree j mack with, The news well that's, the.

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Speaker 2: News and thanks for stopping by the. Herd LINE so

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Speaker 2: i will. Say this.

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Speaker 3: During the, trade deadline you Know, the jets it was

517
00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:01,399
Speaker 3: a flea market and they were. Selling everything dallas, comes

518
00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:05,080
Speaker 3: In the colts. Come in buffalo didn't, do anything AND,

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00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:08,360
Speaker 3: Their Gm brandon, bean said, YOU know i went home

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00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:14,160
Speaker 3: as mad as. Everybody else pump the brakes On. Criticizing

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00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:18,680
Speaker 3: buffalo if you look AT the afc, playoff standings just

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Speaker 3: take a look at the teams they could. Possibly play

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Speaker 3: they could Play The, indianapolis colts whose quarterback nobody really

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Speaker 3: believes in the number two Seed Is, new England Where

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00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:34,399
Speaker 3: drake may has not played two. Complete seasons the number

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00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:37,520
Speaker 3: three Seed, is denver who appears to only play, one

527
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Speaker 3: way dominating the. Fourth quarter number Four Is, aaron rodgers

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00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:45,920
Speaker 3: a forty one year. Old quarterback number Six Is, justin

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Speaker 3: herbert missing both offensive tackles the rest of. The way

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Speaker 3: number Seven's the jags, Nobody trusts so there's a real

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Speaker 3: there's A real first, of ALL The afc championship over

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Speaker 3: the last six seven years has been played.

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Speaker 5: At narrowhead that's.

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00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:06,760
Speaker 3: Not happening so this, is easily at this point in,

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Speaker 3: a season the most favorable Route For. JOSH allen i

536
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:16,280
Speaker 3: think their bigger issue Is That, keon coleman the, wide

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00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:21,120
Speaker 3: receiver shocker and other wide receiver's. Really immature he's shown

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00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:24,640
Speaker 3: up late he's not. Been dependable so you know it's

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00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:28,000
Speaker 3: year two. For him you hope, he matures but you

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00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:32,760
Speaker 3: know their tight end group. Is excellent best Running back

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Speaker 3: josh has had o lines better. Than average josh is in.

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00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:38,840
Speaker 3: HIS prime i don't think it's the end of the

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00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:42,360
Speaker 3: world that they didn't make a. Big move just go

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00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:46,320
Speaker 3: look AT the afc. Right now it's. Average quarterbacks it's

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00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:50,600
Speaker 3: quarterbacks you. Don't trust it's a lot. Of guys so,

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Speaker 3: you know a lot, of times the barrier to a championship,

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Speaker 3: isn't you it's. YOUR rival I Mean phil Mickelson Wasn't

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00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:02,280
Speaker 3: phil mickelson? Worst enemy he had to Go through tiger in?

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Speaker 5: His?

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Speaker 3: Prime right that Was Always utah jazz were good enough

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Speaker 3: to be a. Championship team It was Jordan. And PIPPIN

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00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:13,680
Speaker 3: so i Look. At buffalo buffalo has lost close games

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00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:17,120
Speaker 3: To The Kansas city Chiefs at arrowhead in. The postseason

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Speaker 3: they may. Lose again it's not going to Be. AN

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00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:23,240
Speaker 3: arrowhead i mean There's no burrow. This year lamar right

556
00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:25,360
Speaker 3: now is not a. Playoff quarterback so if you Were

557
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:27,520
Speaker 3: a bills fan and everybody's freaking out they didn't make

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00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:29,560
Speaker 3: a trade at the, trade deadline well.

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Speaker 5: Don't throw around. Bad money it's.

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Speaker 3: Right now if you looked at who's in, THE playoffs

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Speaker 3: i would Take the bills. To WIN and i didn't

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Speaker 3: say that. Last year WELL maybe i said it. LAST

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Speaker 3: year i didn't say it the. Year before look at who.

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Speaker 3: They're playing you Trust, the colts The, Young Patriots, Bo Nixon.

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00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:55,400
Speaker 5: Denver Old aaron herbert with. No tackles who Trust the?

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Speaker 5: Jaguars EVER so i think.

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Speaker 8: They're fine, be sure to catch live Editions Of the

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Speaker 8: heard weekdays And noon eastern Not.

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Speaker 4: Am Pacific Fox College football friday is Under the lights In.

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Speaker 4: Primetime Tomorrow jaden mayava leads NINETEENTH ranked usc and one

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00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:18,640
Speaker 4: of the nation's best Offenses Against northwestern tomorrow night at Nine,

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00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:20,680
Speaker 4: pm eastern Six pm Pacific.

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00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:23,880
Speaker 5: On fox trojan's about ready to go in a.

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00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:27,880
Speaker 4: Roll Talk with klatt about. That yesterday you know they

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Speaker 4: got a shot at.

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Speaker 3: The, playoff well they're Gonna beat Northwestern, in iowa but

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00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:32,640
Speaker 3: then they have to Go.

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00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:34,920
Speaker 5: To eugene so Good luck indiana.

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Speaker 4: One there why can't, you say.

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Speaker 3: Well IN, the us he's not as Good, As indiana.

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Speaker 3: That's why so you see this sometimes where a great

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Speaker 3: actor has. A role, You Know tom hanks does, the

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Speaker 3: terminal he makes a. Bad choice you see. Great Regress

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Speaker 3: marlon brando. Had bombs you see A Zagat michelin, star

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Speaker 3: restaurant a. Chef leaves, it's good but it's. Not special

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Speaker 3: you see eight slowly sometimes kind of regress. Into good

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00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:08,240
Speaker 3: you very rarely see hot dog on a stick becomes.

588
00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:13,360
Speaker 3: Zaggat rated you don't see, you know atrocious, become exceptional

589
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:17,400
Speaker 3: like it just, doesn't happen especially. In Sports So sam

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00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:20,760
Speaker 3: darnold was so Bad In. NEW york i, WAS like

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00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:22,880
Speaker 3: i don't know. WHAT happened i thought he was going

592
00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:24,760
Speaker 3: to be sort of a little Bit Of andrew luck

593
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:29,800
Speaker 3: his last. Two years he is now with, all analytics

594
00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:32,680
Speaker 3: the best quarterback IN. The, NFL no, i mean and

595
00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:36,760
Speaker 3: they Just Added, rashi shaheed a. Deep threat so now

596
00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:39,600
Speaker 3: he's got a DEEP threat js and that Rookie From

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00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:41,240
Speaker 3: colorado state the old.

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00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:43,400
Speaker 5: Lines better he's literally.

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00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:47,960
Speaker 3: Gone from unplayable to best guy in. The LEAGUE and i,

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00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:51,719
Speaker 3: was saying if you just count quarterbacks that, have played,

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00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:54,160
Speaker 3: you know every game, this year you Can't Count lamar

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00:32:54,240 --> 00:33:00,440
Speaker 3: jackson In this what is the quarterback pyramid based just

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00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:03,440
Speaker 3: on this year alone for? Quarterback play what does it?

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00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:05,960
Speaker 3: Look like and this is what it. Looks like sorry

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00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:08,280
Speaker 3: for the. Radio audience we have A little collins quarterback.

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00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:13,480
Speaker 3: Performance period donald's, Number one Allan. And stafford right, Below

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00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:19,040
Speaker 3: him Drake May, Herbert, Baker, Mayfield, Mahomes, jones Prescott. And

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00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:25,640
Speaker 3: golf now that's not necessarily that far. From, reality now

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00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:28,560
Speaker 3: if you're, Talking careers mahomes would be at. The top

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00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:33,080
Speaker 3: but if you're, talking today This Second sam darnold is

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00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:37,800
Speaker 3: the best quarterback IN. The nfl it. Is unbelievable you

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00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:40,040
Speaker 3: just don't. See, that ever you, could, say well What.

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00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:44,480
Speaker 3: About baker Baker in cleveland won a playoff game and

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00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:47,520
Speaker 3: the year, he did his quarterback RATING was i think

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00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:50,040
Speaker 3: it was ninety six or. NINETY eight i think it was.

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00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:53,880
Speaker 3: Ninety six sam's passer Rating In new york was not

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00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:56,479
Speaker 3: even good for. A backup he had more turnovers. Than

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00:33:56,520 --> 00:34:00,760
Speaker 3: touchdowns like forget the winning, wasn't productive it. Was awful

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00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:04,720
Speaker 3: we know now that everybody's awful With, the jets but

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00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:06,120
Speaker 3: what he is doing is.

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Speaker 5: Incredibly Rare So.

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00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:14,279
Speaker 3: Bill belichick was on a podcast Yesterday and i've said

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00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:18,080
Speaker 3: this multiple times on, the show the hottest quarterback in

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00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:21,120
Speaker 3: the league Outside Of sam darnold Is Probably. Matt Stafford

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00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:26,960
Speaker 3: and i've said before where you land IN the nfl matters.

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00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:28,560
Speaker 5: A Lot if stafford would have.

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00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:31,200
Speaker 3: Landed In green Bay And, aaron rodgers who can, be

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00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:33,400
Speaker 3: moody would have Landed, in detroit.

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Speaker 5: We would Look at.

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Speaker 3: Stafford differently stafford was Better Than aaron rodgers in, high school,

631
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:41,640
Speaker 3: in college and he's better now by a. Long shot

632
00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:43,719
Speaker 3: and he was better in the first three or four

633
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:45,799
Speaker 3: years IN the Nfl, than Rogers but aaron had that

634
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:47,680
Speaker 3: ten to eleven year Run In green bay because he

635
00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:50,880
Speaker 3: had a really. Good organization and it's going to be

636
00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:55,080
Speaker 3: fascinating to see What If matt stafford wins This Year's,

637
00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:56,799
Speaker 3: super bowl and RIGHT now i think that the best

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Speaker 3: team or second best team IN the lea like. What

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Speaker 3: Happens bill belichick was on a recent podcast talking About This.

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Speaker 5: MATT stafford.

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Speaker 13: I don't want to put him in a Class, with

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Speaker 13: TOM but i mean it's Reminiscent, of brady where it

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00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:14,040
Speaker 13: just keeps getting better and better. AND better i remember

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00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:16,799
Speaker 13: when we practiced against him and played him several. Years ago,

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00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:19,799
Speaker 13: gotten smarter he, understands more he knows how to, use

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00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:22,959
Speaker 13: weapons maybe just a split. Second quicker he's a little

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00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:24,799
Speaker 13: harder to fool and something you might have got him

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Speaker 13: with a couple of, years.

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Speaker 5: Ago you're not going to get him.

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Speaker 3: With now what's really cruel about quarterback is by the

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00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:34,319
Speaker 3: time you, master it you're usually like, thirty three, thirty four.

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00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:37,800
Speaker 3: Thirty five That's when brady started saying things To Like,

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00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:38,960
Speaker 3: jay Glazer like i've.

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00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:40,360
Speaker 5: Seen everything you can't.

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Speaker 3: Fool me brady talked About A super Bowl Against, Patrick mahomes,

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00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:45,440
Speaker 3: HE'S like i knew What the chiefs defense was going

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00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:47,920
Speaker 3: to do better Than the chiefs defense knew what they

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00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:48,120
Speaker 3: were going.

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00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:50,600
Speaker 5: To do and So but brady had a.

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00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:53,719
Speaker 3: Great advantage he had the best offensive line coach, Probably Ever.

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00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:58,040
Speaker 3: Dante Scarnecia so brady just didn't get hit for most of.

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00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:01,120
Speaker 3: His Career so brady at four four had a thirty

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00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:04,720
Speaker 3: four year. Old body that's not the Case, with stafford

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Speaker 3: who GOT the u know what beat out of him

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Speaker 3: for twelve Years. In detroit so he's thirty seven and

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00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:12,000
Speaker 3: he looks thirty seven with a really.

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Speaker 5: Bad Back but i've asked the question.

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Speaker 3: Before if he Wins A super bowl, THIS year, i

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00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:24,680
Speaker 3: mean he's already all time, completions, eighth, yards, ninth, passing,

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00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:27,160
Speaker 3: touchdowns ninth game, winning drives fifth.

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Speaker 5: And wins he's moving.

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Speaker 3: Up fast so there's just not many quarterbacks in the

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Speaker 3: history of the league that Have Two super bowls AND.

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00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:41,239
Speaker 3: An Mvp, It's, Mahomes, Brady, Manning, Elway, montana Bradshaw And.

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00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:44,880
Speaker 3: Bart starr so there's only one quarterback in this league

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Speaker 3: that can go from really really great. To historic this

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00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:52,960
Speaker 3: is it quarterbacks With Two super bowl wins AND an

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Speaker 3: mvp at.

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Speaker 5: Least one it's all.

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Speaker 3: The, Legends, mahomes Peyton, Tom, elway Montana, Bradshaw Art star

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00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:05,560
Speaker 3: stafford can get into. That group and so his last,

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00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:10,200
Speaker 3: five games, sixteen touchdowns. No picks he is just on

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00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:12,879
Speaker 3: an absolute heater. The question and he's. Done this what's

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00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:17,239
Speaker 3: amazing is no. Training camp he learned on the fly

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00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:22,200
Speaker 3: With The. Vonte adams so what's? Really impressive, you know

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00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:25,320
Speaker 3: an undrafted left tackle learned on the fly With De,

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00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:29,480
Speaker 3: vante adams did not participate to any extent in preseason

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00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:33,680
Speaker 3: and proving once Again what sean mcvagh has felt is

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Speaker 3: the exhibition season is a lot. Of nonsense it doesn't.

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Speaker 3: Really matter but YOU AND. I, j mack you've actually

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00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:44,000
Speaker 3: been on. This forever where you land IN the nfl

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00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:47,200
Speaker 3: is about seventy five percent of your success as. A

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00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:50,120
Speaker 3: quarterback i mean a great Example Is caleb williams with

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00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:54,080
Speaker 3: that outfit, last year everybody bailed. On him this Year

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00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:57,560
Speaker 3: the bears LEAD the nfl in, Big plays so the gap.

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Speaker 3: In coaching obviously mcveigh's better than Any anybody. Detroit had

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00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:05,160
Speaker 3: but here Here Was max Crosby the raiders recently Talking

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Speaker 3: about stafford as A potential mvp for.

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Speaker 14: Some reason just because their team wasn't, The, best like

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Speaker 14: he didn't get that love until he went To, the

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Speaker 14: rams and.

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Speaker 5: Now people, were, Like see, i'm, like bro.

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Speaker 14: He's been doing that for ten Years. In detroit it

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Speaker 14: would be dope To see STAFFORD WHEN, i mvp because people, were,

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Speaker 14: like well is He a Hall. Of famer, i'm like

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Speaker 14: he's been top five for. FIFTEEN years i don't give

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Speaker 14: up what. Anyone says can we have. THIS conversation i

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Speaker 14: don't give what. Anyone says oh that that's. ABSOLUTELY true,

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Speaker 14: i mean think.

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Speaker 3: About this think how much Trust that sean McVay had

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Speaker 3: to have to not only trade Away A super bowl quarterback,

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00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:43,319
Speaker 3: in golf but be willing to Pay for stafford and.

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Speaker 3: Golf Simultaneously so sean McVay knows more football than you.

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Speaker 3: Or me sean, mcvay's, Like yeah i'm gonna move. Off,

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Speaker 3: golf who by, the way he has been a top

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Speaker 3: twelve quarterback for most of, His Career so i'll move.

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Speaker 5: Off him i'll.

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Speaker 3: Take An old stafford that's never a, playoff Game and

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Speaker 3: i'll pay for both that Is having there are certain

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Speaker 3: people in baseball's like this a lot where you go

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Speaker 3: ask baseball players who's, really good who's a bit of,

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Speaker 3: a fraud and they'll, be, like, oh no this guy's.

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Speaker 5: Actually great everybody.

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Speaker 3: Understands it you go ask pro football Players About, matt

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00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:22,799
Speaker 3: stafford they're All Like. Matt trosby, they're, like bro that

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00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:24,960
Speaker 3: guy's been a top five quarterback for.

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Speaker 5: Fifteen years he just Got. Crappy detroit so.

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Speaker 3: It's and the great thing about him he is a film.

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00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:38,279
Speaker 3: Room junkie his wife makes more news than. He does

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Speaker 3: he's never in. The news he's kind of a. Regular guy,

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Speaker 3: you know you'll see him golfing occasionally in town at

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Speaker 3: one of the. Country clubs but he really is, low key.

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Speaker 3: Very chill but he's the only quarterback in the league

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Speaker 3: that can can join a very go from great to historic.

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Speaker 4: This, YEAR yeah, I mean i would say he's certainly

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Speaker 4: IN the.

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Speaker 5: Mvp.

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Speaker 4: Discussion Now Getting devonte adams, Clearly, helps oh.

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Speaker 5: No question a.

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Speaker 4: MAJOR upgrade i Mean They cooper cup was like one

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Speaker 4: of their. Core guys he was bill. Loved out they

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Speaker 4: moved off in. Pretty, easily yeah what has he Done,

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Speaker 4: In seattle colin like next to nothing and.

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Speaker 5: They, upgrade well he's there four Now. In, Seattle, yeah

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Speaker 5: yeah they had.

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Speaker 3: Young receivers, snyder said we'll bring an old veteran possession.

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Speaker 3: Guy In but, i'll Say If cooper cup's, youre four

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Speaker 3: that's not a.

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Speaker 4: Bad receiving but mcvay's done a great Job with sneed,

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Speaker 4: and company just constantly retooling.

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Speaker 3: The team yeah, All Right, greg cosell it Is. A

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Speaker 3: thursday it's my favorite fifteen minutes of. The week, one

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Speaker 3: down here comes. Hour two It. Is thursday it's the

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Speaker 3: hurd