1 00:00:01,880 --> 00:00:06,160 Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George 2 00:00:06,240 --> 00:00:07,640 Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center. 3 00:00:07,840 --> 00:00:10,280 Speaker 2: Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty. 4 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:25,200 Speaker 3: Armstrong and Getty and he Armstrong and Getty sow this 5 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 3: Epstein story. Is it finally over? 6 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:32,080 Speaker 4: It might be finally over for for any reporting of 7 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 4: mainstream news. 8 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:36,160 Speaker 2: I think so. 9 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:40,680 Speaker 5: The hardcore conspiracy theorists are are fired up by the 10 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:42,240 Speaker 5: latest moves, so they're not done. 11 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:46,960 Speaker 2: And it's driven a lot by the q Andon crowd. 12 00:00:48,040 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 4: The two things being there are a whole bunch of politicians, 13 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:55,080 Speaker 4: the Obama's, the Clinton's, Hollywood stars who are involved in 14 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:58,760 Speaker 4: child sex trafficking, and that there are hundreds of thousands 15 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:01,040 Speaker 4: of kids that are being child sex traffic with the 16 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 4: help of big powerful people, and it's being all tied 17 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 4: to Jeffrey Epstein. It's being covered up. And then you 18 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:09,640 Speaker 4: got all the remember the Panda eyes thing. I mean, 19 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:12,759 Speaker 4: it's just there's lots of well and it. 20 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 5: Used to be Democrats. Democrats are doing all this well. 21 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:18,640 Speaker 5: Now it's the Trump administration as well. Based on the 22 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:20,520 Speaker 5: last announcement. 23 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:22,480 Speaker 4: I personally know a number of people who were excited 24 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 4: about Trump getting elected because finally this will come forward. 25 00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:30,679 Speaker 4: All this information will come out about the child sex trafficking, 26 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:34,880 Speaker 4: and then people are very disappointed that cash Ptel with 27 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 4: the FBI and Trump and Pam Bondi, the Attorney General 28 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:40,560 Speaker 4: and others are covering it up or whatever. Anyway, So 29 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:43,840 Speaker 4: Trump has a cabinet meeting yesterday with all his secretaries 30 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:47,120 Speaker 4: and starts taking questions and answers questions for damn near 31 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 4: two hours. Man, Joe Biden didn't answer questions that much 32 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:55,280 Speaker 4: total in four years of presidency. But somebody asked about Epstein. 33 00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:56,279 Speaker 2: Here it goes your. 34 00:01:56,200 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 6: Memo and Relissia James. 35 00:01:57,680 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 7: Jeffrey Epstein less leader in this reas. 36 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 6: One of the biggest ones is whether he ever works 37 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 6: for an American for foreign intelligence agency. So could you 38 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:10,120 Speaker 6: resolve whether or not you did? And also can you 39 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:12,119 Speaker 6: see why there was a minute to scene from jail 40 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 6: house team. 41 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:19,639 Speaker 8: Yeah, sir, just interested. Are you still talking about Jeffrey Epstein? 42 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:23,799 Speaker 8: This guy's been talked about for years. You're asking, we 43 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 8: have Texas, we have this, we have all of the things, 44 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:30,639 Speaker 8: and are people still talking about this guy that's created 45 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:34,639 Speaker 8: that is unbelievable? Right? 46 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 4: So the whole was Jeffrey Epstein involved in one of 47 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 4: our intelligence services because there's belief that he's tied in 48 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:47,240 Speaker 4: with the Mascade, and that's the leverage that netan Yahoo 49 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:50,080 Speaker 4: has over Trump because Epstein blah blah blah. 50 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:52,680 Speaker 2: Here's a little more from Trump in that same press conference. 51 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:54,600 Speaker 8: Do you want to waste the time and do you 52 00:02:54,919 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 8: feel like answered? 53 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:56,840 Speaker 7: I don't mind answering. 54 00:02:57,000 --> 00:02:58,960 Speaker 8: I mean, I can't believe you're asking a question at 55 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:01,639 Speaker 8: Epstein at a time like this where we're having some 56 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 8: of the greatest success and also tragedy with what happened 57 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 8: in Texas. 58 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:10,120 Speaker 7: It just seems like a desecration. 59 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 8: But you go ahead. 60 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 4: To some people that was proof that Trump is on 61 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 4: the list, the supposed Epstein list, and is now trying 62 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 4: to cover that up. Yeah, we got a couple of 63 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 4: emails from folks saying I'm losing confidence with this administration. 64 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 5: The gas lighting continues, just like under Biden. Here's a 65 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 5: gal who thinks Netnahuo nominated Trump for the Nobel Prize 66 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 5: because the Masad and CIA used Epstein, the blackmail politicians, 67 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 5: et cetera, et cetera. Thousands of children have been children 68 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 5: been trafficked, and Bongino, Patel and Bondi are obeying orders 69 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 5: from Trump, and obviously Trump is. 70 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 2: In on the cover up. According to this emailer, Wow, 71 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 2: that's quite the conspiracy. 72 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 4: Speaking of Bondi, Pambondi, the Attorney General, she was asked 73 00:03:57,560 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 4: about so, first, you spent a lot of time talking 74 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:02,000 Speaker 4: about this list and it was on your desk and 75 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 4: you're going to release it. Then the big announcement over 76 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 4: the weekend was there is no list anyway, here's Pam 77 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:07,839 Speaker 4: Bondy sure. 78 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 1: Sure. First to back up on that, in February, I 79 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 1: did an interview on Fox and it's been getting a 80 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:16,920 Speaker 1: lot of attention because I said, I was asked a 81 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 1: question about the client list, and my response was it's 82 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:25,840 Speaker 1: sitting on my desk to be reviewed, meaning the file 83 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:30,680 Speaker 1: along with the JFK MLK files as well. 84 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:32,040 Speaker 7: That's what I meant by that. 85 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 5: Okay, so not the list specifically, it I mean, well, 86 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 5: it's the imprecise answer to the question. 87 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:41,040 Speaker 2: It's not out, it's not totally crazy to me. Well, 88 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 2: let's hear more from her. 89 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:45,440 Speaker 1: Also, to the tens of thousands of video they turned 90 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 1: out to be child porn downloaded by that disgusting Jeffrey Epstein. 91 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 1: Child porn is what they were never going to be released, 92 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 1: never going to see the lighted day to him being 93 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 1: an agent. 94 00:04:56,560 --> 00:04:58,680 Speaker 7: I have no knowledge about that. We can get back 95 00:04:58,720 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 7: to you on that. 96 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 4: I wish she hadn't said that at the end. I mean, 97 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 4: that's true, they have no knowledge of that, but it's 98 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 4: not a thing. There's no evidence whatsoever that Jeffrey Epstein 99 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 4: was involved in any high level intelligence agencies would have 100 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:14,039 Speaker 4: been a bet everything. 101 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:16,360 Speaker 5: To say I was just reading a piece in Axios 102 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:19,960 Speaker 5: that was super interesting about this shadowy CIA character who 103 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 5: was dealing with Lee, Harvey Oswald and other pro castro 104 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:28,040 Speaker 5: activists way back in the day. Bears no light whatsoever 105 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:30,240 Speaker 5: on the assassination of Kennedy. But the one thing it 106 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:33,280 Speaker 5: does make clear is the CIA will do what it wants, 107 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:36,159 Speaker 5: and it will say whatever it wants in response to questions, 108 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:39,839 Speaker 5: even from on high. They have throughout their history lied 109 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:42,360 Speaker 5: like crazy to preserve you know, mission. 110 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:45,520 Speaker 4: Secrecy, and at every point in our history, probably including now, 111 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 4: we all think well that was the old base. Now 112 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 4: they don't do that sort of thing, right, Which is 113 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 4: not to say we're leaping at some sort of you know, 114 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:56,240 Speaker 4: a nutty conclusion about Jeffrey Epstein and the rest of it. 115 00:05:56,360 --> 00:06:00,160 Speaker 4: But I understand why people have their suspicions. Well, that 116 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 4: was interesting. I didn't I don't remember hearing that Jeffrey 117 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:09,279 Speaker 4: Epsteam had so he had thousands of hours of child porn. Really, 118 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 4: I didn't know that that was part of his whole deal. Well, 119 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 4: we did know that it was, you know, under the 120 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:17,720 Speaker 4: age of eighteen. So if you're calling that child porn, 121 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:22,359 Speaker 4: I guess, and that's technically accurate. Here's more from Pambondi and. 122 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:24,680 Speaker 7: The minute missing from the video. 123 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:31,360 Speaker 1: We released the video showing definitively the video was not conclusive, 124 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 1: but the evidence prior to it was showing he committed suicide. 125 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:40,360 Speaker 7: And what was on that there was a minute that 126 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 7: was off the counter. 127 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 1: And what we learned from euron Prisons was every year, 128 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:49,040 Speaker 1: every night they redo that videos old from like nineteen 129 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:52,920 Speaker 1: ninety nine, So every night the video is reset and 130 00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:55,840 Speaker 1: every night should have the same minute missing. So we're 131 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:58,599 Speaker 1: looking for that video to release that as well, showing 132 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 1: that a minute is missing every night and that's it. 133 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 7: Hot. 134 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:05,160 Speaker 4: So there's a missing minute of footage from overnight of 135 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:08,560 Speaker 4: the jail cell. She's saying that that's the way the 136 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:11,560 Speaker 4: camera works because they reset it. That's a bad system, 137 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 4: or you have a full minute of no cameras every night. 138 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 5: But well, I'm trying to remember the system from nineteen 139 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 5: ninety nine, So what would that be some sort of 140 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:23,080 Speaker 5: you know, limited space hard drive. 141 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 2: Probably I don't know. Yeah, I mean, like we said yesterday, 142 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 2: you gotta admit. 143 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 4: I mean, it's pretty damn convenient that the camera's turned 144 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:33,880 Speaker 4: off for a minute and then you come back and 145 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:34,640 Speaker 4: the guy's dead. 146 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:36,560 Speaker 2: I mean, hell, yes, Well. 147 00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:40,120 Speaker 5: If I were like a fake QAnon type character online, 148 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:43,559 Speaker 5: I'd be thinking, Man, this is too easy, all this stuff. 149 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:45,920 Speaker 2: They're giving me so much to work with. It's effortless. 150 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:48,360 Speaker 4: The problem I always had he had every reason in 151 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 4: the world to kill himself and like no reason to 152 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 4: stay alive. 153 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 5: Right right, I would agree, But Sadie German wrote a 154 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:57,520 Speaker 5: piece in the Wall Street Journal today that I think 155 00:07:57,640 --> 00:08:01,280 Speaker 5: is pretty fair and they're too aspects to it that 156 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 5: I thought we're worth mentioning number one. She says Pam 157 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 5: Bondi's tendency to exaggerate is catching up on her, catching 158 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:14,520 Speaker 5: up to her. She she tries very hard to be 159 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 5: exciting and flamboyant and very maga a la Trump but 160 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 5: Trump has a teflon quality that other people don't get 161 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:28,800 Speaker 5: away with, and I think Pam is guilty of that probably. 162 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:32,599 Speaker 5: And they go through a couple of quotes and that 163 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 5: ridiculous where they had a bunch of influencers show up 164 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:41,839 Speaker 5: in the White House driveway and and waived files from 165 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:44,679 Speaker 5: Epstein that turned out to be just like his rolodex, 166 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:45,800 Speaker 5: which was nothing new. 167 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 2: There's nothing interesting to that, blah blah blah. 168 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 5: But the other aspect of this that I found interesting, 169 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:55,960 Speaker 5: just you know, looking at MAGA world, the about face 170 00:08:56,280 --> 00:09:00,720 Speaker 5: on the because she had once uh promised to release 171 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:05,040 Speaker 5: quote a truckload of documents from the FBI investigation. 172 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 4: Well, you say that sort of crap, you should pay 173 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:09,000 Speaker 4: a price for it. I mean, you can't go around 174 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:10,920 Speaker 4: saying that, right. 175 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:14,120 Speaker 5: But the about face drew a course of criticism from 176 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:17,920 Speaker 5: right wing figures, including Glenn Beck, which I found interesting. 177 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:20,040 Speaker 5: I haven't heard Glenn in ages, but I don't know, 178 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:22,600 Speaker 5: you know, the nature of what he's talking about these days. 179 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:28,720 Speaker 5: Benny Johnson, who is and Jack Pisobiak. Laura Lumer asked 180 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 5: late Monday on X quote, how many more times is 181 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:33,600 Speaker 5: this woman going to get away with effing everything up 182 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 5: before she is fired. So MAGA world, at least that 183 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:41,920 Speaker 5: section of it is turning on Pam BONDI well, part 184 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:43,679 Speaker 5: of it is the Epstein file has got to be. 185 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:46,839 Speaker 4: If it's in the top one thousand of priorities of 186 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 4: things she's thinking about every day, I'd be surprised. Yeah, 187 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:54,959 Speaker 4: is this is this the whole Epstein case file list 188 00:09:55,559 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 4: going to be something I hear about from some people 189 00:09:57,559 --> 00:09:58,560 Speaker 4: for the rest of my life? 190 00:09:58,920 --> 00:10:05,600 Speaker 2: One hundred percent. One hundred percent. Yes, Wow, Okay, Well 191 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:08,680 Speaker 2: there you go. For what it's worth. 192 00:10:08,800 --> 00:10:15,120 Speaker 5: There has been very little indication lately that Trump listens 193 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:19,400 Speaker 5: to and responds to that kind of pardon me, but 194 00:10:19,559 --> 00:10:24,440 Speaker 5: whack a doodal wing of Maga. He wants their support, 195 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 5: soft pedals, that he's gentle with them and all. But 196 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:32,720 Speaker 5: other than a couple of early appointments during the transition period, 197 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:35,000 Speaker 5: I haven't seen a lot of evidence that they're really 198 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:39,000 Speaker 5: yanking his chained the Tucker Carlson influence, for instance, Teyroan Tucker, 199 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:39,640 Speaker 5: where is it? 200 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's where Do I see this article I read 201 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 4: over the weekend about how the mainstreaming of Donald Trump, 202 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:49,520 Speaker 4: how many mainstream positions he's got right now in terms 203 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 4: of things that he has done were set. 204 00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 2: That's weird. I heard he was the new Hitler. 205 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 4: Back to you anyway, that's enough of that. Working on 206 00:10:57,960 --> 00:10:59,559 Speaker 4: getting rid of my RBF. I want to tell you 207 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:01,760 Speaker 4: how that's coming along and maybe it can work for you. 208 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:04,040 Speaker 4: I took some suggestions. 209 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:08,559 Speaker 2: Plus, discipline in schools is making a comeback. That's great news. 210 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:11,280 Speaker 4: God, I'd say so, it's all the way stay here 211 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:18,600 Speaker 4: played for me Clip twenty one, Michael. I'm very excited 212 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:19,319 Speaker 4: about this story. 213 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:23,640 Speaker 9: The big change at American airports, the TSA saying effective immediately, 214 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:26,520 Speaker 9: all passengers will be able to keep their shoes on 215 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 9: through security, something we haven't seen in nearly twenty years. 216 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 2: But there is a caveat. 217 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 9: If that scanner alarm goes off for a special screening, 218 00:11:34,679 --> 00:11:36,679 Speaker 9: you will need to take those shoes off. 219 00:11:36,760 --> 00:11:42,120 Speaker 4: What a dumb caveat. So here's what I haven't heard 220 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:44,080 Speaker 4: anybody ask about this, and this is what I would 221 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 4: love to know. This is having lived through the pandemic 222 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:51,280 Speaker 4: and finding out that six feet apart was completely made up. 223 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:54,800 Speaker 2: Absolutely one percent out of whole cloth made up. 224 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:57,640 Speaker 4: So this wasn't completely made up because we did have 225 00:11:57,800 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 4: that one dude try to set his shoes on off. 226 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:04,599 Speaker 4: But I'd like to know how long has it not 227 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:07,520 Speaker 4: been necessary for people to take their shoes off? 228 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:09,280 Speaker 2: How much good was it doing. 229 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:12,719 Speaker 4: I'd like somebody to explain that just because we all 230 00:12:12,760 --> 00:12:16,079 Speaker 4: have to live under these various rules that they come 231 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 4: up with now and then again, as we all learned 232 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:19,679 Speaker 4: through COVID. 233 00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 2: And sometimes they're just made up and there's nothing to 234 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:22,760 Speaker 2: back them up. 235 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:25,640 Speaker 4: I hope somebody comes forward with that. So I'll bet 236 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:29,920 Speaker 4: some at some point I would be not surprised to hear, Yeah, 237 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 4: the whole taking your shoes off thing, there's no evidence 238 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:34,680 Speaker 4: that did any good, it ever stopped the terrorist attack 239 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:38,040 Speaker 4: or we knew like three years ago or fifteen years 240 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:41,480 Speaker 4: ago that this wasn't necessary. I would like to know that, 241 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:46,480 Speaker 4: right right, Yeah, because you know, having lived through six 242 00:12:46,559 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 4: feet apart, would it be surprising do you to find 243 00:12:48,559 --> 00:12:48,839 Speaker 4: that out? 244 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:49,160 Speaker 1: Not me. 245 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:51,679 Speaker 2: We got a great note. 246 00:12:51,559 --> 00:12:56,240 Speaker 5: By the way from Paolo about how the forced consensus 247 00:12:56,320 --> 00:12:58,959 Speaker 5: in COVID is so much like the forced consensus on 248 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:01,240 Speaker 5: climate change we're talking about. 249 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 2: At some point. 250 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:05,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, so you say I brought up this idea of 251 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:09,000 Speaker 4: getting read of my RBF or my rmf resting murdery 252 00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:13,160 Speaker 4: face and got a pair amount of responses, not only 253 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:15,840 Speaker 4: on the text line, but in real life because if 254 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:18,160 Speaker 4: you have it, you know you have it, and it 255 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:22,120 Speaker 4: bothers you. You realize that you come off as unapproachable 256 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:24,120 Speaker 4: or off putting to people in a way that you 257 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:30,400 Speaker 4: don't want to be, particularly if you're shingle perhaps, And 258 00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:33,000 Speaker 4: so I'm trying to do something about it, and I'd 259 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:37,079 Speaker 4: read this article about how you can change your resting 260 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 4: facial expression, but it takes time. It's really like working 261 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 4: on your posture or your golf swing or the way 262 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:47,960 Speaker 4: you play guitar, any of those things. 263 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:50,400 Speaker 2: It's like it's a muscle memory thing. It's just getting 264 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:51,240 Speaker 2: in the habit of it. 265 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:56,400 Speaker 4: And you know, like for a long time, I changed 266 00:13:56,400 --> 00:13:58,640 Speaker 4: the way I played guitar way I held my pick 267 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:01,880 Speaker 4: after twenty five years of holding it the same way, 268 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:04,280 Speaker 4: and it was really really hard to do for quite 269 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:07,880 Speaker 4: a while before it became natural and normal. And that's 270 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:09,559 Speaker 4: the way I do it all the time, because you're 271 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:13,320 Speaker 4: going against all that in your brain and muscle memory 272 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:14,880 Speaker 4: and all that sort of stuff, and to hold it 273 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:18,920 Speaker 4: with your between your toes now exactly and you can 274 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 4: do that with your face, but it takes a lot 275 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:25,360 Speaker 4: of practice, and as I pointed out yesterday and the 276 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:27,480 Speaker 4: suggestions from this article, where you got to look in 277 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:29,760 Speaker 4: the mirror to do this. But I feel like if 278 00:14:29,800 --> 00:14:34,680 Speaker 4: I make a just neutral face, it feels it feels 279 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:38,920 Speaker 4: to me like I'm mediating hatred. It feels to me 280 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:42,680 Speaker 4: like I'm smiling like a lunatic. That's what it feels 281 00:14:42,840 --> 00:14:45,240 Speaker 4: like in my brain, in my face to just have 282 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:48,400 Speaker 4: a neutral face, to try to get my mouth to 283 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:50,040 Speaker 4: just to turn up my lips just a little bit 284 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:52,160 Speaker 4: on the corners and not look so angry. 285 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:54,400 Speaker 2: Turn them up more. Because that face you just made, 286 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 2: I thought that was the before, not the after. Tell 287 00:14:57,360 --> 00:15:00,880 Speaker 2: out this. Yeah, oh see, I feel like you're plotting 288 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:02,720 Speaker 2: on me when you look at me like that plotting 289 00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:04,440 Speaker 2: on you, Yeah, like you're up to no good. 290 00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:08,440 Speaker 4: You're right, yeah, But the other face I have is 291 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:09,800 Speaker 4: like I'm going to hit you in the head with 292 00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:11,440 Speaker 4: a hammer, son shilling. 293 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 2: It's a step in the right direction either way. I'm 294 00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:16,920 Speaker 2: in a defensive posture. 295 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:21,360 Speaker 10: But it's weird how it feels in my brain, like 296 00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:25,280 Speaker 10: I am like, you know, people who have this giant hey, 297 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:27,600 Speaker 10: how you do it look on you. That's what it 298 00:15:27,680 --> 00:15:31,120 Speaker 10: feels like in my head, just to try to get 299 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:32,640 Speaker 10: to somewhere near neutral. 300 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 2: Well, that'll change. 301 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:37,440 Speaker 4: Like you're saying, the interesting aspect of this to me 302 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:39,560 Speaker 4: is and you kind of said it in the other direction, 303 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:42,880 Speaker 4: was that your resting facial expression is not one of 304 00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:44,880 Speaker 4: those It is what it is, and there's no changing it. 305 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:48,480 Speaker 4: You absolutely can change it. Yeah, it's very much like 306 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:51,840 Speaker 4: your posture. Although, man, was there a great article in 307 00:15:51,920 --> 00:15:53,640 Speaker 4: the New York Times a while back did I talk 308 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:55,680 Speaker 4: about this on the air, about how much the whole 309 00:15:55,720 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 4: posture thing was completely made up. It's like the six 310 00:15:58,400 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 4: feet apart or taking your shoes off of the air. 311 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:02,880 Speaker 2: It was just made up. It's like one etiquette person 312 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:04,680 Speaker 2: thought it was important to sit up straight. 313 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 4: And somehow I caught on and became a thing for 314 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:09,680 Speaker 4: like a century before anybody looked into the fact that 315 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:12,240 Speaker 4: it doesn't really make any difference at all. 316 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:14,400 Speaker 2: If you like this, or if you said like that, 317 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:16,480 Speaker 2: that doesn't have any effect on anything. 318 00:16:17,160 --> 00:16:19,680 Speaker 5: As you know, I prefer to walk along hunched over 319 00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:22,280 Speaker 5: with my arms, swinging feet like an ape and just 320 00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:24,720 Speaker 5: more comfortable with that the whole you know, that that 321 00:16:24,880 --> 00:16:27,840 Speaker 5: whole posture Nazism, the fascism of. 322 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:29,600 Speaker 2: Standing up straight. I've had enough of it. 323 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:32,000 Speaker 4: For some reason, I noticed it as I was walking 324 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:34,600 Speaker 4: through one of the art galleries in New York. I 325 00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:36,720 Speaker 4: had my hands behind my back as I strolled along, 326 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:39,440 Speaker 4: and my kids said, you look so old right now 327 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:41,720 Speaker 4: walking with your hands behind your fag. 328 00:16:43,560 --> 00:16:46,600 Speaker 2: I guess it's my art gallery walk. If the orthopedic 329 00:16:46,680 --> 00:16:48,920 Speaker 2: shoe fits huh so. Good news. 330 00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:54,320 Speaker 4: One more idiotic woke policy is starting to be rolled back, 331 00:16:54,400 --> 00:16:58,160 Speaker 4: and that has to do with school discipline. Yeah, talk 332 00:16:58,240 --> 00:17:00,520 Speaker 4: about that, among other fair Hope you can stay tuned 333 00:17:00,520 --> 00:17:03,360 Speaker 4: if you can't subscribe to our podcast Armstrong and Getdy 334 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:04,760 Speaker 4: on demand. 335 00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:08,000 Speaker 2: Armstrong and Getty. 336 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:13,639 Speaker 11: Betteran women's cyclists or accusing the sports governing body of 337 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:17,200 Speaker 11: intentionally hiding the fact that a biological male was going 338 00:17:17,280 --> 00:17:20,280 Speaker 11: to be competing at the Road Racing National Championships in 339 00:17:20,359 --> 00:17:25,280 Speaker 11: Wisconsin last week. That transgender cyclist Kate kJ Phillips ultimately 340 00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:27,800 Speaker 11: won that race by passing the other cyclist in the 341 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:31,000 Speaker 11: final sprint to win by a single second. 342 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:34,560 Speaker 1: One hundred races against women, thousands against in group rides, 343 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:37,600 Speaker 1: sprinting against men, and I knew at that sprint that 344 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:38,720 Speaker 1: that was a man's. 345 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:45,639 Speaker 2: Sprint, big hulking dude too. Wow, just unbelieved. Wow, that's interesting. 346 00:17:45,760 --> 00:17:49,240 Speaker 4: So a woman who has participated in lots of bike 347 00:17:49,320 --> 00:17:51,480 Speaker 4: rides with both men and women, could tell that was 348 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:52,240 Speaker 4: a dude. 349 00:17:53,800 --> 00:17:54,760 Speaker 2: When you got passed. 350 00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:58,600 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, yeah, sure of course, because men are bigger 351 00:17:58,640 --> 00:18:01,280 Speaker 5: and stronger, have denser bones, bigger lungs and heartst cetera, 352 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:05,000 Speaker 5: et cetera, should be competing against men. One more example 353 00:18:05,080 --> 00:18:09,840 Speaker 5: of lunatic, lefty woke policies that are finally being rolled 354 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:12,960 Speaker 5: back by sanity. And we've got a couple of more, 355 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:15,320 Speaker 5: and you know that reminds me. Maybe next hour we 356 00:18:15,359 --> 00:18:18,440 Speaker 5: can talk about this, the whole Memdanni trying to pass 357 00:18:18,560 --> 00:18:22,720 Speaker 5: himself off as African American. You know, I've been tempted 358 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:24,240 Speaker 5: not to even talk about her, to bring it up, 359 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:26,800 Speaker 5: because I think all of that identity politics is so 360 00:18:27,040 --> 00:18:30,840 Speaker 5: stupid and corrosive. And I'm like, good, you know, Hoysted, 361 00:18:30,960 --> 00:18:33,960 Speaker 5: done your own petart or whatever that expression is. You 362 00:18:34,040 --> 00:18:35,880 Speaker 5: know you're gonna live by that stuff, You're gonna die 363 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:36,159 Speaker 5: by it. 364 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:36,880 Speaker 2: I don't care. 365 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:41,080 Speaker 5: But the depth of hypocrisy it reveals is I don't know, 366 00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:43,879 Speaker 5: maybe worth touching on, but anyway, I want to get 367 00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:44,080 Speaker 5: to this. 368 00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:46,800 Speaker 2: She didn't claim he was black. 369 00:18:46,920 --> 00:18:50,520 Speaker 4: He just he checked the box African American, knowing how 370 00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:51,440 Speaker 4: it would help him. 371 00:18:52,040 --> 00:18:55,600 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, taking advantage of how imprecise and silly that 372 00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:56,159 Speaker 2: term is. 373 00:18:56,240 --> 00:18:59,720 Speaker 4: But knowing that the reason it existed was to help 374 00:18:59,760 --> 00:19:04,120 Speaker 4: black Sure. Yeah, yeah, but you know he's he's a scammer. 375 00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:09,359 Speaker 5: Those people again, there are useful idiots who go along 376 00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:12,480 Speaker 5: with some of their doctrines thinking they're doing the right thing, 377 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:17,919 Speaker 5: but at their core, like DEI, is not about diversity. 378 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:21,840 Speaker 5: It's about takeover. It's about conquest of institutions. You call 379 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:27,000 Speaker 5: something racist until you control it. Anyway, school discipline is 380 00:19:27,119 --> 00:19:30,720 Speaker 5: making a comeback. Discipline policy in K through twelve public 381 00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:34,080 Speaker 5: schools rode the progressive tide on race and crime in 382 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 5: recent years. Right so the editorial board of the journal, 383 00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:43,080 Speaker 5: as the Feds and states pushed therapy over suspensions and expulsions. 384 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:47,639 Speaker 5: But classroom misbehavior has surged since the COVID lockdowns, and 385 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:50,359 Speaker 5: some states are responding with changes that will benefit teachers 386 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:52,680 Speaker 5: and students. Jack, I'm sure you've got plenty of real 387 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:54,560 Speaker 5: world examples and illustrations. 388 00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:58,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, the term restorative justice hasn't come up yet, but 389 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:01,600 Speaker 4: that's the whole movie that swept the country for I 390 00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:04,000 Speaker 4: don't know how many years, but I ran up against 391 00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:05,879 Speaker 4: it with my kids a couple of different times, and 392 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:08,760 Speaker 4: I've called it the Golden Age of being a bully, 393 00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:12,160 Speaker 4: which is interesting given the fact that we've had several 394 00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:15,720 Speaker 4: first ladies in a row make bullying their number one cause, 395 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:18,800 Speaker 4: and there are all these anti bullying PSAs on radio 396 00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:21,480 Speaker 4: that didn't used to exist when there was far less bullying, 397 00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:25,000 Speaker 4: and it all happened at the same time as restorative justice, 398 00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:27,639 Speaker 4: which was allowing bullies to do whatever they wanted because 399 00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:30,240 Speaker 4: you blame the victim and the person who did it 400 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:34,320 Speaker 4: exactly the same way, and then there's no consequences, right, 401 00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:35,320 Speaker 4: they just both. 402 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:37,959 Speaker 5: Have feelings to share, We'll share those. Failing reason, then 403 00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:41,800 Speaker 5: no consequences. Well, the Texas legislature and may pass the bill. 404 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:44,600 Speaker 5: It makes it easier for teachers to remove misbehaving students 405 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:48,600 Speaker 5: from classrooms and extends the allowable time for in school suspensions. 406 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:54,560 Speaker 5: Some thirty three hundred Texas School District employees were assaulted 407 00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:57,400 Speaker 5: by students in twenty twenty three and twenty twenty four, 408 00:20:57,400 --> 00:21:00,439 Speaker 5: according to the Texas Tribune, thirty three hundred. 409 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:01,400 Speaker 2: That's crazy. 410 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:05,120 Speaker 5: And in many states around the country you don't even 411 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:08,560 Speaker 5: get in serious trouble for assaulting a teacher. I'll bet 412 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:11,600 Speaker 5: there was like a century in this country where it 413 00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:15,400 Speaker 5: didn't happen. Maybe more than twice in the whole country. 414 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:16,280 Speaker 2: Oh yeah. 415 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:19,600 Speaker 5: Arkansas lawmakers in April passed a law that ensures students 416 00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:22,760 Speaker 5: removed for violent behavior or not return to the same classroom. 417 00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:26,600 Speaker 5: Legislature are also stripped from state law requirement that districts 418 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:31,560 Speaker 5: use positive behavioral support, which focuses on conflict resolution and 419 00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:35,200 Speaker 5: coping skills to address student misbehavior. I mean, if you 420 00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:37,679 Speaker 5: want to throw some of that stuff in with the punishment, 421 00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:39,600 Speaker 5: I have no problem with that. You got a kid 422 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:42,280 Speaker 5: with anger problems, or maybe things are going sideways at 423 00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:45,000 Speaker 5: home or whatever, and you want to understand that. 424 00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:48,479 Speaker 2: That's fine, but you cannot remove the sanction. 425 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:52,200 Speaker 4: No, at some point, regardless of what the reason is, 426 00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:55,720 Speaker 4: that kid can't go to school and beat other kids. 427 00:21:57,280 --> 00:22:00,200 Speaker 5: You just can't let that go, right, exactly, have to 428 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:04,720 Speaker 5: be lines bright lines. Washington State, for the love of 429 00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:09,280 Speaker 5: all that is progressive. Their superintendent state superintendent finalized rules 430 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:12,879 Speaker 5: effective this month that loosen restrictions on removing, suspending, or 431 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:17,600 Speaker 5: expelling students because the restorative justice experiment, like so many 432 00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:20,159 Speaker 5: progressive policies, the best way to discredit them is to 433 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:20,800 Speaker 5: implement them. 434 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:22,720 Speaker 2: It's a miserable failure. 435 00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:28,760 Speaker 4: Louisiana and Louisiana Nevada have taken similar actions, and they 436 00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:33,040 Speaker 4: mentioned both those states, the state teachers union supported legislation 437 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:37,400 Speaker 4: making it easier to remove students. Yes, so their constituents 438 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:40,000 Speaker 4: being beaten on became even more important than their wild 439 00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:42,440 Speaker 4: progressive pologies. I was about to say, the kids being 440 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:45,320 Speaker 4: beaten up at school and being afraid to go to 441 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:48,240 Speaker 4: school and being told that do you you have to 442 00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:50,359 Speaker 4: talk to an adult, talk to adult, do not respond 443 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:53,359 Speaker 4: talk to an adult, and then the adults do effing nothing. 444 00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:55,240 Speaker 4: I saw this over and over again. That's why I 445 00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:57,879 Speaker 4: taught my kids. He hits you, you punch him right 446 00:22:57,880 --> 00:22:59,879 Speaker 4: in the nose. And then I got yelled at by 447 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:04,160 Speaker 4: teachers for saying that you don't do anything. You don't 448 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:07,280 Speaker 4: do anything. The kids have no choice but to fight back. 449 00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:10,320 Speaker 4: The whole go to an adult thing is crap. 450 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:12,680 Speaker 2: I was given the same advice check. 451 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:19,840 Speaker 4: It's ridiculous anyway. I think when the teachers started getting attacked, 452 00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:22,760 Speaker 4: the power of the teacher union turned into a good 453 00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:25,600 Speaker 4: thing because they were able to say, hey, wait, putting 454 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:26,680 Speaker 4: up with this anymore. 455 00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:28,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, doing what a teacher's union ought to do, not 456 00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:32,080 Speaker 5: advocating for radical politics like for instance, for the UH. 457 00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:36,840 Speaker 5: It's the United Auto Workers that organize the university campuses 458 00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:39,920 Speaker 5: at least in cal Unicornia and some other states, and 459 00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:43,800 Speaker 5: they've become just radical leftist organizations, and they use the 460 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:46,800 Speaker 5: power of the union not to get like better wages 461 00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:48,399 Speaker 5: and benefits and stuff like that. 462 00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:50,520 Speaker 2: No, they use the power of the union to enforce 463 00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:54,080 Speaker 2: like radical leftist politics, which is just bizarre. We're on 464 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:54,560 Speaker 2: that side. 465 00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:57,440 Speaker 4: I'll never forget the look on the face of the 466 00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:00,960 Speaker 4: particular human being when I them. Yeah, I've told my 467 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:02,879 Speaker 4: kid if somebody punches them, to punch them right in 468 00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:05,640 Speaker 4: the nose. They looked at me like I was insane, 469 00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:08,440 Speaker 4: Like I don't even know how to respond to somebody 470 00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:11,160 Speaker 4: would say something like you're a monster because you don't 471 00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:15,359 Speaker 4: do anything here, you don't do anything well. And the 472 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:18,560 Speaker 4: kids who aren't blinded by out ideology, they do that 473 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:20,800 Speaker 4: math quickly It's about the only math they learn in 474 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:24,560 Speaker 4: public schools that, oh, I'm told not to defend myself. 475 00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:27,240 Speaker 4: The authorities will take care of it. But the authorities 476 00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:30,520 Speaker 4: never take care of the reverse part. The reverse parts 477 00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:31,240 Speaker 4: are the bigger problem. 478 00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:31,440 Speaker 2: Though. 479 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:35,480 Speaker 4: The kid that's doing the punching figures out very quickly. 480 00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:38,439 Speaker 4: Nobody's gonna do anything about this. I can beat up 481 00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:39,520 Speaker 4: whoever the hell I want. 482 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:41,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so true. 483 00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:44,720 Speaker 4: All of this marks is shift away from the progressive 484 00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:50,560 Speaker 4: push for therapeutic or restorative practices. The Obama administration encouraged 485 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:55,480 Speaker 4: districts it yanked him by the chain of funding to 486 00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:59,560 Speaker 4: emphasize quote positive interventions over student removal. In at twenty 487 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:04,160 Speaker 4: four guidance letter warning of racial disparities in traditional discipline 488 00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:09,080 Speaker 4: twenty twenty three, Biden administration Education Department advocated listening and 489 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:13,640 Speaker 4: healing and warned that suspensions and expulsions quote often disproportionately 490 00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:19,680 Speaker 4: affects students of color, but soft disciplined policies have victims 491 00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:20,160 Speaker 4: of their own. 492 00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:20,639 Speaker 2: Quote. 493 00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:24,520 Speaker 5: One district superintendent wrote in public comment, teachers are getting hit, kicked, 494 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:27,240 Speaker 5: spit on, custed out the fact that we cannot suspend 495 00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:29,560 Speaker 5: these students and have to wait, in some cases weeks 496 00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:32,680 Speaker 5: until we can bring parents and teammate members together to 497 00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:36,080 Speaker 5: create a solution. Is leaving both teachers and administration with 498 00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:37,880 Speaker 5: a feeling of helplessness. 499 00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:40,080 Speaker 2: And the kids too. For good. Yeah, the kids who 500 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:41,480 Speaker 2: are not victimized. 501 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:42,280 Speaker 4: That's what I was going to say. I feel bad 502 00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:44,720 Speaker 4: for the teachers. At least they're adults, so they have 503 00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:47,080 Speaker 4: some way to deal with that. That's happened to all 504 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:49,520 Speaker 4: the kids on the playground too, Lots of kids who 505 00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:51,200 Speaker 4: are scared to go to school because you allow that 506 00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:55,240 Speaker 4: to happen, You freaking weirdos. You allow these kids to 507 00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:58,639 Speaker 4: be scared to go to school because you have this strange, 508 00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:04,000 Speaker 4: progressive in spite of all of human history knowledge of 509 00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:05,399 Speaker 4: how this whole thing works. 510 00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:08,600 Speaker 2: And so finally we started happening to you. He decided 511 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:09,359 Speaker 2: to do something about it. 512 00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:11,880 Speaker 4: And I'm glad you mentioned the funding part, because that's 513 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:14,760 Speaker 4: why so many conservatives are against the Department of Education, 514 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:20,000 Speaker 4: because yes, they do control your schools locally, and that 515 00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:21,960 Speaker 4: they will yank funding if you don't go along with 516 00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:23,280 Speaker 4: their whack job theories. 517 00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:26,320 Speaker 5: It's worth mentioning you can draw a bright line between 518 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:30,359 Speaker 5: the obotoma administration's restorative justice practices, and the Florida shooter 519 00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:33,000 Speaker 5: getting away with slaughtering all those kids because he was 520 00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:36,439 Speaker 5: a quote unquote minority and the school district officials were 521 00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:40,760 Speaker 5: terrified of suspending him or punishing him, or especially calling 522 00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:44,720 Speaker 5: the cops because that would become part of the schools 523 00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:50,680 Speaker 5: to jail's pipeline that you may remember progressive folks talked 524 00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:53,800 Speaker 5: about as an excuse not to ever discipline people because 525 00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:56,159 Speaker 5: you put people on the wrong side of quote unquote 526 00:26:56,200 --> 00:27:00,680 Speaker 5: the law, then they become prisoners because of your system racism. 527 00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:03,000 Speaker 5: And that's why that Florida kid got away with so 528 00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:06,480 Speaker 5: much for so long. At least one more note on this. 529 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:09,000 Speaker 5: I love this from Daniel Buck who's a former teacher. 530 00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:12,879 Speaker 5: He wrote this for the Fordham Institute last year. Getting 531 00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:15,399 Speaker 5: back to your point, Jack about the kids who are 532 00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:18,520 Speaker 5: not victimizers are afraid to go to school. Peers of 533 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:22,720 Speaker 5: disruptive students are robbed of learning time. Given that high 534 00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:27,240 Speaker 5: poverty schools struggle with the most with disciplinary challenges, keeping 535 00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:31,240 Speaker 5: disruptive students in classrooms only widens the achievement gain. 536 00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:34,160 Speaker 2: No kidding, boy, you gotta have a PhD to figure 537 00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:34,520 Speaker 2: that out. 538 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:37,879 Speaker 5: Oh my god, folks, come you know, I happen to 539 00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:40,040 Speaker 5: be wearing my armstrong and get he cut the crap 540 00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:45,879 Speaker 5: T shirt. All of this stuff that defies common sense, 541 00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:49,919 Speaker 5: defies all of human history. As Jack pointed out, boys 542 00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:54,520 Speaker 5: playing girls sports, no negative repercussions for negative actions. 543 00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:57,960 Speaker 2: I mean, it is just it's crap. It's garbage. 544 00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:02,280 Speaker 4: It's woke nonsense still on society by professors who have 545 00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:05,040 Speaker 4: no interest in or experience in the real world. 546 00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:07,399 Speaker 2: Cut the crap. 547 00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:10,919 Speaker 5: I didn't even get into my screen, which I'm anxious 548 00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:13,640 Speaker 5: to get to at some point, Jack, partly for your benefit. 549 00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:19,080 Speaker 5: On the death of the public library, Oh yeah, I 550 00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:23,160 Speaker 5: saw that article. That is that is so oh my god. 551 00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:26,040 Speaker 4: Let me just read the headline in the subhead to 552 00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:28,320 Speaker 4: you one comment, then I sweir, I'll shut up. 553 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:31,440 Speaker 2: The death of the public library. This happens to be 554 00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:32,160 Speaker 2: in the free press. 555 00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:35,800 Speaker 5: Public libraries are in decline, not because of the Internet 556 00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:38,320 Speaker 5: or because people are reading less, but because they have 557 00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:40,600 Speaker 5: become defecto homeless shelters. 558 00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:44,360 Speaker 4: And I when did ransient shelter's junkie shelter. I used 559 00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:47,080 Speaker 4: to go to the Sacramento Public Library downtown all the time. 560 00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:49,440 Speaker 4: How many years ago. Was that that I just stopped 561 00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:52,840 Speaker 4: going And it wasn't. And it's exactly what that headline says. 562 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:56,040 Speaker 4: It wasn't because the internet or made it easier, different 563 00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:58,800 Speaker 4: thing technology or whatever. No, I like to checking out 564 00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:01,320 Speaker 4: books and CD and stuff like that, because it was 565 00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:04,760 Speaker 4: years ago. That's how long ago it wasn't CDs. It 566 00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:05,840 Speaker 4: became almost shelter. 567 00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:09,600 Speaker 2: It's scary and disgusting to go to the library in 568 00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:10,280 Speaker 2: a lot of places. 569 00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:12,320 Speaker 4: And when I had kids, no way I was taking 570 00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:15,080 Speaker 4: my kids to the public library in Sacramento. 571 00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:15,400 Speaker 2: No freaking way. 572 00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:17,560 Speaker 4: Too many scary people are You certainly can't take your 573 00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:18,840 Speaker 4: five year old to the bathroom. 574 00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:22,640 Speaker 2: There's two dry addics in their washing their feet. Right. 575 00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:25,440 Speaker 5: So here's a question. Why wasn't this a problem twenty 576 00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:30,960 Speaker 5: years ago? Housing prices? No, not housing prices policy are 577 00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:35,600 Speaker 5: as a society willingness to put up with aberate behavior 578 00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:37,520 Speaker 5: in the name of compassion. 579 00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:39,280 Speaker 2: I was at the target last night. 580 00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:41,120 Speaker 4: Took a long time to find somebody with a key 581 00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:43,600 Speaker 4: to unlock the glass so my son could get his 582 00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:45,120 Speaker 4: lego set that he wanted to buy. 583 00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:48,400 Speaker 2: They did, well, that's because of the high price of housing. 584 00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:51,240 Speaker 4: Jack, Yeah, exactly, these weren't locked up when you were little, 585 00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:52,200 Speaker 4: but now they're locked up. 586 00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:53,920 Speaker 2: He was getting one of those adult lego sets like 587 00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:58,360 Speaker 2: a teenager would want. But uh yeah, and people just 588 00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:00,920 Speaker 2: accept that. That's funny. Things didn't used to be locked up, 589 00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:03,280 Speaker 2: now they're locked up. You just ignore that. You just 590 00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:04,720 Speaker 2: accept that, Okay whatever. 591 00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:07,960 Speaker 4: Uh, very very manning. Actually people aren't accepting it, as 592 00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:10,040 Speaker 4: you can see from voting results. A bunch of different 593 00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:14,120 Speaker 4: places amen to that. Stay tuned Armstrong. 594 00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:18,680 Speaker 12: Heyety five years ago, my brother decided to be a vegan, 595 00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:21,360 Speaker 12: and I've spent multiple Thanksgivings with him, and I one 596 00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:24,320 Speaker 12: hundred percent would prefer my next Thanksgiving start with my 597 00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:25,840 Speaker 12: dad walking in and saying. 598 00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:26,560 Speaker 2: I'm a lady now. 599 00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:32,320 Speaker 12: Then I would spending another Thanksgiving where my brother keeps 600 00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:34,280 Speaker 12: asking me, is there butter in this? I'm like, there's 601 00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:39,640 Speaker 12: butter in everything. Fun day was over in my apartment 602 00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:42,000 Speaker 12: and I just sort of threw a granola barb at 603 00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:45,760 Speaker 12: him because he looked like he was starving, and he 604 00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:48,440 Speaker 12: picked it up and he just started reading the label. 605 00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:52,120 Speaker 12: If there was a logo for veganism, it should be someone. 606 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:57,520 Speaker 2: At your home reading a label under problem. 607 00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:07,320 Speaker 4: Vegans are intolerable. Vegetarians are fine, can be annoying. Vegans 608 00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:12,680 Speaker 4: are in work. Yeah, and especially if you're evangelical, like 609 00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:14,520 Speaker 4: like you're trying to spread it. 610 00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:19,160 Speaker 2: You can't just be that quietly. You have to try 611 00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:21,239 Speaker 2: to convince me right right. 612 00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:24,040 Speaker 5: You know, it occurred to me during the break that 613 00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:26,280 Speaker 5: the first thing we talked about is a perfect example 614 00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:29,320 Speaker 5: of the second thing we talked about, in that insisting 615 00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:35,240 Speaker 5: that teachers not punch students was called white supremacy. You know, 616 00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:38,240 Speaker 5: showing up on time, working hard, not punching your teacher 617 00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:43,920 Speaker 5: is white supremacy culture, and if and thereby they could 618 00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:46,240 Speaker 5: change everything and take over school systems and the rest 619 00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:47,160 Speaker 5: of it by that argument. 620 00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:51,680 Speaker 2: But seriously, if having your teachers. 621 00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:56,640 Speaker 4: Being unpunched is white supremacy, I guess I am one. 622 00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:57,680 Speaker 2: I don't want any. 623 00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:01,040 Speaker 5: Teachers punched anywhere, but they all only make those claims 624 00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:03,480 Speaker 5: that it's racism to put you on your heels. And 625 00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:08,640 Speaker 5: if minority kids are disproportionately disciplined, you got to go 626 00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:10,080 Speaker 5: to root causes. 627 00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:13,640 Speaker 4: And help the kids. Letting them become criminals does not 628 00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:14,800 Speaker 4: help them in any way. 629 00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:16,200 Speaker 2: That is racist. 630 00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:21,280 Speaker 4: Got an update here, I'm looking up at the television. 631 00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:24,959 Speaker 4: Barbie has just unveiled its first Barbie with type one diabetes. 632 00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:28,400 Speaker 4: So Naty, I know you're a little too old for 633 00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:29,160 Speaker 4: barbiees Gabe. 634 00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:32,239 Speaker 2: They're trying to make one that all the kids can 635 00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:32,680 Speaker 2: relate to. 636 00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:36,840 Speaker 4: I think the first Barbie with type one diabetes, all right, 637 00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:41,000 Speaker 4: that's a very odd story. First, the first Gi Joe 638 00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:46,800 Speaker 4: with I don't know, lasoriasis. I see a lot of 639 00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:53,680 Speaker 4: ads for that anxiety problems Gi Joe anxiety. I had something, 640 00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:55,160 Speaker 4: but I decided I'm going to save it for the 641 00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:57,440 Speaker 4: One More Thing podcast because it's so good. Wanted to 642 00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:02,280 Speaker 4: mention this at a text Misshappy yesterday. I have these 643 00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:06,480 Speaker 4: now and then. Maybe I'm not good at forming my texts, 644 00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:09,960 Speaker 4: but I think it's part of the nature of texting. 645 00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:14,160 Speaker 4: Have you ever had like one where like somebody completely 646 00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:17,080 Speaker 4: misinterprets your text because it's very very difficult. 647 00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:20,840 Speaker 2: To pick up tone and text and and uh and 648 00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:22,120 Speaker 2: so that happens now and then. 649 00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:27,040 Speaker 4: But someone I saw yesterday someone once told me you 650 00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:30,920 Speaker 4: should never make absolute decisions over something communicated in a text, 651 00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:33,080 Speaker 4: And I think that is a is a good one. 652 00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:34,760 Speaker 2: If you're ever like, if you ever get a text 653 00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:39,480 Speaker 2: and you're like, Eh, what you know? Explain more? 654 00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:42,719 Speaker 4: Or I don't know how you approach it, but realize 655 00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:46,240 Speaker 4: you may be misinterpreting it. Her they because one word different. 656 00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:48,760 Speaker 2: Can make a huge difference on a text. Again, since 657 00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:51,560 Speaker 2: you don't know the tone at all. The second I 658 00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:53,520 Speaker 2: get that vibe, I pick up the phone and make 659 00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:54,240 Speaker 2: the phone call. 660 00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:56,920 Speaker 4: That's a good idea, right there, Yeah, clear it up 661 00:33:57,000 --> 00:34:00,400 Speaker 4: quickly on the phone. Uh, yes, did you mean to 662 00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:01,960 Speaker 4: when sound as insulting as that was? 663 00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:04,560 Speaker 2: No, not at all. Fact, I was trying to make 664 00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:08,960 Speaker 2: a joke or something. Mmm, all right, that's never happened 665 00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:09,920 Speaker 2: to you never. 666 00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:12,120 Speaker 4: Well, yeah, it has text from you, as a matter 667 00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:15,160 Speaker 4: of fact, which is why I'm hesitating to comment, trying 668 00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:16,560 Speaker 4: to figure out how to approach it. 669 00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:21,879 Speaker 2: Maybe I'm just bad at it. It's possible. Maybe maybe 670 00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:23,399 Speaker 2: I'm bad at it. I don't. 671 00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:25,520 Speaker 5: If I thought you were, I would tell you. So 672 00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:28,319 Speaker 5: We've exchanged tens of thousands of texts through the years, 673 00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:28,919 Speaker 5: so I don't. 674 00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:29,279 Speaker 2: I don't. 675 00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:32,360 Speaker 5: I don't think that's necessarily true. Perhaps when one is 676 00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:35,719 Speaker 5: in a crazed hurry for most of one's day. 677 00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:39,000 Speaker 4: That is what always, almost always is the culprit with 678 00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:41,760 Speaker 4: me is like I'm doing it in my car voice, 679 00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:45,960 Speaker 4: texting or whatever. And then you leave out verbs or 680 00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:52,440 Speaker 4: you know, mitigating terms or stuff like that, it seems 681 00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:56,480 Speaker 4: really harsh. Okay, I'll get it can come off as 682 00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:59,120 Speaker 4: very you know, harsh, when that's not what you meant 683 00:34:59,160 --> 00:34:59,399 Speaker 4: at all. 684 00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:00,520 Speaker 2: Yeah. 685 00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:02,800 Speaker 5: At one point I'd written my letter of resignation and 686 00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:06,000 Speaker 5: started a taco stand and sales were actually going quite well. 687 00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:08,440 Speaker 2: But then I thought, no, it's a text maybe Avrikna 688 00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:11,480 Speaker 2: what that far? We were already having good sales. 689 00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:14,960 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, the chicken tacos were selling like crazy, so 690 00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:17,640 Speaker 5: spicy people, Armstrong and Getty