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Speaker 1: is up, Great Fire, Pam. It's me Jason McIntyre, Straight

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Speaker 1: Fire for Friday, June sixteenth, Ladies and gentlemen. My kids

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Speaker 1: got out of school this week, so I don't know

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Speaker 1: what the schedule is going to be like for the

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Speaker 1: podcast this summer. Keeping them in line will be a

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Speaker 1: tall order as well as obviously doing the herd. But

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Speaker 1: very excited for the first official weekend of summer. Although

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Speaker 1: I like to think Memorial Day weekend starts off summer,

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Speaker 1: but I was in Paris for that one. To decent

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Speaker 1: topics today. Listen, it's June. We're less than a week

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Speaker 1: to the NBA Draft. After the NBA Draft, it's like,

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Speaker 1: what are we talking about? Now? There is some good

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Speaker 1: soccer on the horizon. I know everybody's in a soccer

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Speaker 1: Women's World Cup. Is this summer? You know? I like

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Speaker 1: soccer on ship stake in Nakasa. Very exciting times in

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Speaker 1: the soccer world with Dealnel Messi scored another ridiculous goal

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Speaker 1: two minutes into the game. Guys, an unbelievable. But I

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Speaker 1: need to start the podcast talking about a stretch five

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Speaker 1: if you will. In the NBA, and I don't think

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Speaker 1: he's a household name, but Karl Anthony Towns is trying

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Speaker 1: to become one. Clearly now we know he went through

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Speaker 1: a lot during COVID. I believe several family members contracted

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Speaker 1: COVID and he lost a couple family members. Sad story.

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Speaker 1: Everybody likes Carl Anthony Towns by all accounts. He is

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Speaker 1: a great guy, a phenomenal three point shooter. I'm almost

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Speaker 1: But Karl Anthony Town's is a really good player in

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Speaker 1: And it's possibly because his name's being mentioned in all

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Speaker 1: these trade rumors. So Karl Anthony Towns decides, you know what,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna go on a podcast with my guy, Pat Bev,

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Speaker 1: former teammate of mine in Minnesota. And you know they're boys.

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Speaker 1: Patrick Beverley kind of the little hype man slash pest

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Speaker 1: Anthony Towns, he's just like hyping him up all Karl

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Speaker 1: to Carl Anthony Towns, you're the best center in the NBA,

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Speaker 1: and Carling Anton Towns is of course lapping it up.

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Speaker 1: And at this point, you're like, these guys, did they

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Speaker 1: And next thing, Karl Anthony Town's though, and I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: as a game changer. None of this interview made sense.

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Speaker 1: Then they go on to say, oh, us winning that

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Speaker 1: but this is sociopathic behavior. First of all, Carl Anthony

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Speaker 1: Towns has not changed the NBA at all, under no circumstances.

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Speaker 1: Has he become like the best shooting big man ever

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Speaker 1: thirty eight percent from deep in his career. Karl Anthony

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Speaker 1: He's proven that he had his choice, he had his

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Speaker 1: Pat Bev egging on Towns so that Towns can like

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Speaker 1: a little bit. This story isn't as sexy as normal,

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