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Speaker 1: And when you're making twenty million dollars, you know, you

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Speaker 1: does feel like it's coming down the home stretch, like

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Speaker 1: if you're a betting man, I is Todd Bowles gonna

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Speaker 1: be the head coach there in twenty twenty seven? Probably not.

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Speaker 1: I personally like the Saints a lot this year. They

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Speaker 1: signed Etn maybe they trade Kamara. I think they're kind

432
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Speaker 1: of a team to watch. Clearly, the Panthers have invested,

433
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Speaker 1: not that Mike's factoring in, like Jalen Phillips and Devin Lloyd,

434
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Speaker 1: and they should be solid. The Falcons they have no quarterback,

435
00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:54,280
Speaker 1: but they have a lot of talent on their team.

436
00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:56,679
Speaker 1: Maybe Mike was just like, I'm ready for a change.

437
00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:59,679
Speaker 1: I'm ready. I saw McCaffrey get a second lease on

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Speaker 1: Light when he went there. I go to a place

439
00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:05,760
Speaker 1: where I can be featured and we're on the same page.

440
00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:07,760
Speaker 1: There was that famous clip last year was a Thursday

441
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Speaker 1: Night Football where he's screaming at bulls. But he clearly

442
00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:14,880
Speaker 1: which always isn't the case, especially with older players. Sometimes

443
00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:17,040
Speaker 1: you gotta take it where you can get it, Like

444
00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:21,760
Speaker 1: Jason Light loves Mike Evans and they did it clearly

445
00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:23,760
Speaker 1: was not a financial decision. So I think the only

446
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Speaker 1: thing you would say is he didn't believe in the

447
00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:33,040
Speaker 1: football direction, which from an offensive standpoint, I listen, if

448
00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:35,760
Speaker 1: all things are equal, which they're not here, he's taking less.

449
00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:39,360
Speaker 1: But if you're as rich as Mike Evans and it's

450
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Speaker 1: like I'm gonna take a couple of million dollars hit,

451
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Speaker 1: it's not gonna change my life. So I am willing

452
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Speaker 1: to make a football decision over money decision. Who would

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Speaker 1: play for Todd Bowles in that situation over Kyle Shanahan,

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Speaker 1: especially on an offense that there is not a person

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Speaker 1: if you're gonna put money in a different bucket, which

456
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Speaker 1: he clearly did, you would choose Kyle Shanahan that opportunity,

457
00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:03,440
Speaker 1: and the forty Diners is gonna need him. I mean,

458
00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:06,000
Speaker 1: as of recording this, Juwan Jennings still a free agent.

459
00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:10,639
Speaker 1: Pearsall has not proven he can play a full season. Kittle.

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00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:13,280
Speaker 1: I keep hearing, Hey, you know George Kittle. George Kittle

461
00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:16,679
Speaker 1: tours Achilles. Do you following on Instagram? He's in a boot.

462
00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:20,520
Speaker 1: We all love George Kittle, but that's a pretty major injury,

463
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Speaker 1: major injury for an older player, So I'm excited. I

464
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Speaker 1: think Mike Evans is gonna be a fan favorite fast,

465
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Speaker 1: but the fortyner is gonna depend on him big time.

466
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Speaker 1: I also think the Liam Cohen thing, I think that

467
00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:38,800
Speaker 1: is so easy to say no one does that because

468
00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:41,720
Speaker 1: you could do it with countless. Dan Quinn should have

469
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Speaker 1: got fired after they lost the Super Bowl to keep

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Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan. Who fires a coach after they won the

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl. Todd Bowles has just been winning the division,

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Speaker 1: like you're gonna fire him to keep Liam Cohen. And

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Speaker 1: for every Liam Cohen that works, there are a lot

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Speaker 1: of guys that do not work. Again, I'm not even

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Speaker 1: trying to defend Todd on that one. I'm just or

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Speaker 1: the Bucks organization. I just think that that move never

477
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Speaker 1: happens ever. Question for the bag Schneider just came off

478
00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:07,960
Speaker 1: winning a Super Bowl and seems to be Comato's in

479
00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:12,080
Speaker 1: free agency so far, he is only signed Rashid's Shaheed.

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Speaker 1: This is not unusual for him, and I don't even

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Speaker 1: disagree taking a step back in free agency as not

482
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Speaker 1: one of the usual big spenders around the league. But

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00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:25,480
Speaker 1: it seems every year fans who follow the team are

484
00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:28,440
Speaker 1: constantly frustrated with him sitting back and letting top free

485
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Speaker 1: agents go to other teams without being rumored to be

486
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Speaker 1: involved in signing players. Could you just talk about a

487
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Speaker 1: strategy and maybe give an insight into how gms like

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Speaker 1: Schneider operate. Well, they gave Shaheed a lot of money.

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Speaker 1: By all accounts that it was like fifty million. They

490
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Speaker 1: guaranteed them thirty million dollars, so that is that is

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Speaker 1: not nothing. I think he would say he's got a

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Speaker 1: massive contract coming for jays n. They have some young

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Speaker 1: new on defense which are gonna get paid premiums. He

494
00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:07,000
Speaker 1: paid the offensive lineman was at Charles Cross last year.

495
00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:11,159
Speaker 1: While Sam Donald does not make Josh Allen money, he

496
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Speaker 1: doesn't make chump chains. If Sam Donald a three year,

497
00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:17,200
Speaker 1: hundred million dollar contract and whatever, thirty million dollars a year,

498
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Speaker 1: if that was a guard or a dtackle, he'd be

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Speaker 1: one of the highest paid players in the league, So

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Speaker 1: it's like he makes a substantial amount of money relative

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Speaker 1: to football players, and I think you look at it's

502
00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:32,640
Speaker 1: like Kobe Bryant. Our defensive backfield is our deepest position,

503
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Speaker 1: right with Witherspoon. Even Worry Woolan, who's a big free agent,

504
00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:42,240
Speaker 1: was a fifth round pick. So part of my strength,

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Speaker 1: as John Schneider, is I keep the cupboards full by

506
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Speaker 1: letting guys, finding guys like that in the fifth round

507
00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:53,440
Speaker 1: and then letting them walk in free agency and getting

508
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Speaker 1: comp picks. So you could argue the Kobe Bryant deal

509
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Speaker 1: like they had the money to do that, But I

510
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:03,800
Speaker 1: think he goes that's a position to depth. Mike McDonald

511
00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:08,480
Speaker 1: is my strength right. One advantage the Seattle Seahawks have

512
00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:12,520
Speaker 1: is my head coach is a defensive dominant wizard, So

513
00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:14,840
Speaker 1: I could find guys for cheaper and then when I

514
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Speaker 1: get the opportunity to blow it out on a defensive lineman,

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Speaker 1: I do that. So I don't really have a big issue.

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Speaker 1: I don't think he let anyone go. It's not like

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Speaker 1: he let Earl Thomas walk out the door, right. He

518
00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:31,680
Speaker 1: didn't just let Cam Chancellor in his prime leave. I

519
00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:35,840
Speaker 1: think that's how he looks at it. I also think

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Speaker 1: here's the other thing. When you look at a lot

521
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Speaker 1: of these players they got signed, Jalen Phillips, Tyler Lindenbaum,

522
00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:46,959
Speaker 1: like some of the hot Like you are paying a

523
00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:51,840
Speaker 1: massive tax to sign that guy, Devin Lloyd. These guys

524
00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:59,320
Speaker 1: are getting substantial, substantial raises from other teams. So if

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Speaker 1: I'm willing to let you walk, and I'm John Snider

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Speaker 1: and I've been doing this for almost I mean he's

527
00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:05,480
Speaker 1: been working in the league since the mid nineties, but

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00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:08,040
Speaker 1: he's been the boss for almost twenty years, I do

529
00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:10,440
Speaker 1: think he has a pretty good feel for I can't

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00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:12,360
Speaker 1: let this guy leave, and I have to keep this guy.

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Speaker 1: I think he's earned the benefit of the doubt of

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00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:18,920
Speaker 1: kind of knowing what he's doing. I don't think there

533
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Speaker 1: were too many players for a team that just won

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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl of like, how did you not sign

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Speaker 1: that guy? That would be my take because this is

536
00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:30,880
Speaker 1: not you know, in baseball, sho Hao Tani or Aaron

537
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:32,880
Speaker 1: Judge or Bryce Harper or one of these guys a

538
00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:35,440
Speaker 1: free agent like it's it's a plug and play sport,

539
00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:39,200
Speaker 1: right If you get the opportunity to sign Shack or

540
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:42,880
Speaker 1: Kevin Durant in basketball, That's not the way NFL works.

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Speaker 1: Beside like Reggie White, historically, there aren't that many guys

542
00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:51,240
Speaker 1: in their prime that truly hit free agency, and this

543
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:56,600
Speaker 1: year clearly wasn't great question for the pod What on

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Speaker 1: earth are the Jets doing a quarterback? Are they actually

545
00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:03,000
Speaker 1: gonna alf Ty Simpson? Because that is bust written all

546
00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:06,840
Speaker 1: over it. Also, in the event Aaron Rodgers retires, doesn't

547
00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:10,920
Speaker 1: Kyler just feel like a stealer? Also looks Kevin Stefanski

548
00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:14,760
Speaker 1: found another terrible left handed quarterback. I do not understand

549
00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:16,840
Speaker 1: what type of traits the man looks for in a quarterback.

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00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:22,720
Speaker 1: Uh the Jets, man. I think the Jets and the

551
00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:30,600
Speaker 1: Cardinals feel like just lost at sea, just truly lost

552
00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:32,640
Speaker 1: at sea. I mean, yesterday I saw some of the

553
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Speaker 1: reactions of the Cardinals, who are gonna stick with Jacoby

554
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:38,600
Speaker 1: You actually wasn't bad and signed Gardner Minshew. The Jets

555
00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:43,240
Speaker 1: just traded for Geno Smith. Now, granted, by all accounts,

556
00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:45,640
Speaker 1: the Raiders are eating the majority of a salary that

557
00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:47,800
Speaker 1: the Jets are just paying them three or four million dollars.

558
00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:50,160
Speaker 1: Like you said, they'll probably end up drafting ty Simpson.

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Speaker 1: If I'm if I'm a quarterback, that's the last place

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00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:55,320
Speaker 1: in the world I'd ever want to go would be

561
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Speaker 1: to the Jets. I mean that's a place where careers die.

562
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Speaker 1: I mean how Geno's career died there and then he

563
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:04,760
Speaker 1: got resurrected other places. So I don't know, man, I think,

564
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:08,160
Speaker 1: in fairness, if you do not have a quarterback, there

565
00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:11,720
Speaker 1: aren't really options, right, Like, what are the Jets supposed

566
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:15,160
Speaker 1: to do? What are the Cardinals supposed to do? All

567
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:17,640
Speaker 1: the reports said Malik Willis had options to go other

568
00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:20,280
Speaker 1: places and chose to go to Miami. I would too.

569
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:23,240
Speaker 1: He knows the coach and he knows the GM. So

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00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:24,800
Speaker 1: why would I go to a place where I don't

571
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Speaker 1: know any people. I just was with these guys when

572
00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:31,880
Speaker 1: I resurrected my career. They know me as well as

573
00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:35,360
Speaker 1: anyone could know me in this situation. So I think

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Speaker 1: when you look at the Jets, it's like, what were

575
00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:40,840
Speaker 1: really their options? Kyler trade for Gin? Now, Like, if

576
00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:43,560
Speaker 1: I'm defending them, they don't really have any to me,

577
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:47,040
Speaker 1: ty Simpson, that's got disaster written all over it. It really is.

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00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:50,480
Speaker 1: Can you explain the Rooney rule and why the Bears

579
00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:53,920
Speaker 1: don't get a comp pick for Ian Cunningham. I do

580
00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:58,840
Speaker 1: believe they got fucked because you don't technically like the

581
00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:02,200
Speaker 1: comp picks. The Niners these for years. So when Robert

582
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:07,280
Speaker 1: Sala or Demico Ryans or Mike McDaniel, not a white guy,

583
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:11,080
Speaker 1: gets a head coaching job from a coordinator job, you

584
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:15,840
Speaker 1: get two third round picks. I'm trying to think they

585
00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:19,440
Speaker 1: had a couple executives too, I quest you. I think

586
00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:23,840
Speaker 1: was one. But when your executives become an assistant GM

587
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:27,800
Speaker 1: or pro personnel guy and become the GM same thing

588
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:30,840
Speaker 1: as a coach, you get multiple third round picks. Well,

589
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:36,480
Speaker 1: the league argued that Ian Cunningham is, by the letter

590
00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:40,120
Speaker 1: of the law, a lateral move because Ian is under

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00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:44,000
Speaker 1: Ryan Poles in Chicago and he's technically under Matt Ryan

592
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:48,880
Speaker 1: in Atlanta. Though Matt Ryan said when he got hired,

593
00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:51,840
Speaker 1: I am not gonna be running free agency and I'm

594
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:54,920
Speaker 1: not running the draft. Let's face it, Matt Ryan is

595
00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:57,520
Speaker 1: a figurehead who is being paid a lot of money

596
00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:00,440
Speaker 1: to kind of keep good vibes and you know, interact

597
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:02,320
Speaker 1: with the coach in the GM and kind of just

598
00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:05,880
Speaker 1: keep everyone on the same page. But if you think

599
00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:09,120
Speaker 1: Matt Ryan is going to like Texas to scout players

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Speaker 1: or is ranking his big board in free agency, that

601
00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:15,080
Speaker 1: is Ian Cunningham. I do believe it. I think Ryan

602
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:19,560
Speaker 1: Poles mentioned this like this is wrong, Like I Ian

603
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:23,360
Speaker 1: Cunningham is running their personnel department like he is the GM,

604
00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:27,960
Speaker 1: but they don't get any credit for it. And I

605
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:30,440
Speaker 1: don't think this is like it's I don't think the

606
00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:32,960
Speaker 1: Falcons attempted to. You know, it's not the Falcons pick.

607
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:35,160
Speaker 1: The league just creates these picks out of thin air.

608
00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:42,720
Speaker 1: But Bears got screwed. I would agree with Bears fans there,

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Speaker 1: Good day, John. Do you like the moves the Raiders

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Speaker 1: have made so far spending most of their money on

611
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:51,840
Speaker 1: defense and not an offense with a rookie quarterback coming in?

612
00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:55,200
Speaker 1: Knowing that some say you build your defense through the

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Speaker 1: draft and offense in free agency. I think the number

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00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:03,240
Speaker 1: one key where I will defend the Raiders of buying

615
00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:07,640
Speaker 1: all these different players is their team was so shitty.

616
00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:12,080
Speaker 1: It was so bad that you just need NFL bodies

617
00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:14,560
Speaker 1: on your team. Like the Raiders are not trying to

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00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:17,239
Speaker 1: win the Super Bowl next year. Honestly, they're not gonna

619
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:19,839
Speaker 1: make the playoffs next year. They just need to get

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00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:22,040
Speaker 1: the train back on the tracks and be like a

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00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:24,279
Speaker 1: six or seven win team that when you watch them

622
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:27,160
Speaker 1: all season long ago, that's an NFL team. Because what

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00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:30,280
Speaker 1: they were last year was not no different than the Cardinals,

624
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:32,680
Speaker 1: no different than the Jets. Once you get to the

625
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:35,719
Speaker 1: point where you are that bad, you need to just

626
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:39,120
Speaker 1: figure some things out. And they had a bunch of capspas.

627
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:43,520
Speaker 1: There was more good defensive players than offensive players. I

628
00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:46,520
Speaker 1: would say, so they you know, from Quitty pay to

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Speaker 1: Kwai Walker. I mean, those guys have been longtime starters

630
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:52,920
Speaker 1: on competitive teams. Obviously Quay more than Quitty because the

631
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:56,640
Speaker 1: Colts never make the playoffs. But you know they paid

632
00:34:56,680 --> 00:35:02,560
Speaker 1: for Linderbaum and Naylor the wider from Minnesota. But I

633
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:07,960
Speaker 1: have no issue with like they're not planning on Like

634
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:10,680
Speaker 1: they don't have delusions that they're gonna be some thirteen

635
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:14,120
Speaker 1: win team next year. But their team was so shitty.

636
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:16,959
Speaker 1: It had been so bad, and they've made so many

637
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:19,400
Speaker 1: bad moves, like they traded for DeVante Adams, so one

638
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:22,040
Speaker 1: year they lost a first round pick and then DeVante

639
00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:24,799
Speaker 1: is obviously a couple of years later not on the team.

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Speaker 1: Anymore like they have, and Gruden drafted really poorly for

641
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:31,720
Speaker 1: a long time, like this is not a great roster.

642
00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:36,840
Speaker 1: So I have no problem with overspending and paying guys

643
00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:39,040
Speaker 1: a little too much just to come be on a

644
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:43,000
Speaker 1: team to try to make it decent. Within a couple

645
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:45,919
Speaker 1: of years, some of those guys contracts will be over

646
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:48,640
Speaker 1: and you can cut them for no dead dead money.

647
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:51,880
Speaker 1: I don't know why anyone arguing they're like the Raiders

648
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:55,440
Speaker 1: are doing is idiot. If the Chiefs or like a

649
00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:57,280
Speaker 1: good team did it, I'd be like, that's pretty risky.

650
00:35:57,640 --> 00:35:59,400
Speaker 1: You're bringing a lot of bodies in a lot of

651
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:02,920
Speaker 1: different persons. Obviously, most good teams on that level cap space.

652
00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:05,960
Speaker 1: But if it was a consistent playoff team, you'd be like, guys,

653
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:11,239
Speaker 1: that's historically doesn't work. The Raiders are not. Historically. You

654
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:13,120
Speaker 1: couldn't be much worse. They've made the playoffs twice in

655
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:17,880
Speaker 1: twenty three years. So I got, I got. I completely supported.

656
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:21,799
Speaker 1: And did they overpay for the center, sure, but they

657
00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:24,480
Speaker 1: wanted them. You know someone was gonna be willing to

658
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:26,440
Speaker 1: give them twenty four to twenty five million dollars. They

659
00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:28,960
Speaker 1: have a rookie quarterback coming in now all of a sudden,

660
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:31,640
Speaker 1: you get a starting center, you have a good left tackle,

661
00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:34,279
Speaker 1: you could draft another offensive lineman with the fourteenth pick

662
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:39,239
Speaker 1: question for the pod, just curious, how come the rest

663
00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:42,680
Speaker 1: of the volumes podcasts aren't on Netflix? Did you make

664
00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:46,680
Speaker 1: a separate deal just for three and out with Netflix? Well,

665
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:49,640
Speaker 1: we have a lot of different partnerships in this venture.

666
00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:53,600
Speaker 1: And one of our business partners who I'm in business with,

667
00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:58,359
Speaker 1: I guess indirectly directly through the podcast, is iHeart. So

668
00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:03,439
Speaker 1: this Netflix deal? I think they ran the Netflix deal

669
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:05,879
Speaker 1: that then comes through the volume that was then asked

670
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:07,960
Speaker 1: to me like was this something you'd be interested in?

671
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:12,480
Speaker 1: But from what I was told at the Super Bowl

672
00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:15,719
Speaker 1: party is you know iHeart has what six thousand podcasts?

673
00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:17,120
Speaker 1: That was a number that was thrown out to me.

674
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:20,719
Speaker 1: There are only fifteen of them through the under the

675
00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:25,480
Speaker 1: iHeart umbrella that and they sell ads for us, like

676
00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:28,600
Speaker 1: we're in business with them. That are that did the

677
00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:31,720
Speaker 1: deal with Netflix? And your Boy is one of the fifteen.

678
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:36,440
Speaker 1: No big deal, but it wasn't. It wasn't necessarily and

679
00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:38,239
Speaker 1: you know we have other there are other shows like

680
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:42,120
Speaker 1: Joe and Jada is a volume podcast that is this

681
00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:44,560
Speaker 1: on Netflix. They were just at the Phoenix Race Away

682
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:47,319
Speaker 1: with Michael Jordan. I didn't get the invite to that one,

683
00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:50,960
Speaker 1: but it was it was I think ran point by

684
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:55,839
Speaker 1: iHeart on this this deal. So that's it. It's kind

685
00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:58,000
Speaker 1: of complicated, right. There are a lot of different people

686
00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:01,040
Speaker 1: involved in these operations, which is cool. I mean, my

687
00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:04,839
Speaker 1: Heart's been fucking incredible to me, so I I'm very

688
00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:09,120
Speaker 1: happy to be in business with him. But that's kind

689
00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:12,920
Speaker 1: of a short cliff note version of how that worked out.

690
00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:15,799
Speaker 1: It's not like the volume sold all the shows, and

691
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:19,520
Speaker 1: some of the shows are more directed toward you know,

692
00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:24,640
Speaker 1: the other medium. You guys can figure that. The video one,

693
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:27,920
Speaker 1: how he doesn't sell a cow that still has milk.

694
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:35,880
Speaker 1: No on Jalen Carter. The reason how he would trade

695
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:40,759
Speaker 1: Jalen Carter is not because of his talent, right he's

696
00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:42,759
Speaker 1: a half or he's pumping out milk left and right.

697
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:47,040
Speaker 1: He is an elite talent. It's he was a red

698
00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:49,520
Speaker 1: flag coming out of college for a reason. I don't

699
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:52,440
Speaker 1: think he's the easiest guy to deal with. And now

700
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:55,480
Speaker 1: you've got to pay the piper, and that payment for

701
00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:57,720
Speaker 1: a guy like him is probably one hundred and fifty

702
00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:02,640
Speaker 1: million dollars guaranteed. Think about that, His number guaranteed would

703
00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:06,319
Speaker 1: be closer to Jalen Hurts than it would be like

704
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:11,360
Speaker 1: aj Brown and Devonte Smith or Jordan Davis his college teammate.

705
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:18,200
Speaker 1: He is an extremely expensive next contract. That's where the

706
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:21,560
Speaker 1: conversation starts, and that's now. Could they played out another

707
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:27,160
Speaker 1: year then trade him? I just think there's a complicated

708
00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:30,360
Speaker 1: situation for a guy that's talent is I mean, you

709
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:32,040
Speaker 1: could say he's one of the most talented players in

710
00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:34,520
Speaker 1: the NFL. I think it's more than fair to say,

711
00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:39,000
Speaker 1: Ravens fan, why do more teams not use the transition tag?

712
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:42,560
Speaker 1: It feels so obvious, it's cheaper than the regular tag,

713
00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:45,319
Speaker 1: and no team is trading two first round picks for

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00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:48,480
Speaker 1: a center. So at worst, the Ravens would have gotten

715
00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:52,080
Speaker 1: one more year at of Linderbaum and a chance to

716
00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:56,600
Speaker 1: continue negotiating. Maybe a team does negotiate with him and

717
00:39:56,719 --> 00:39:58,880
Speaker 1: work out a trade with US for less than two

718
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:02,959
Speaker 1: first rounders, in which case, at least we get more

719
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:06,400
Speaker 1: for him than a compensatory third round pick two drafts

720
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:09,640
Speaker 1: from now. The Vikings would have done that same thing

721
00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:12,480
Speaker 1: with Darnold. Either get two first rounders, if another team

722
00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:15,320
Speaker 1: signs them keep one more year on a cheap tag,

723
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:18,319
Speaker 1: or if he gets an offer gets a reasonable then

724
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:22,160
Speaker 1: you can match the offer. Someone else did the dirty

725
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:25,360
Speaker 1: negotiating for you. I usually love our GM, but this

726
00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:30,120
Speaker 1: feels like a serious WTF moment. Well, let me just

727
00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:34,000
Speaker 1: bring up Lamar Jackson contract to get the raven stuff.

728
00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:41,719
Speaker 1: So if I type in the Ravens currently to their

729
00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:47,800
Speaker 1: contract situation, they have they currently have negative ten million

730
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:57,200
Speaker 1: dollars in cap space and Tyler Linderbaum franchise tag number.

731
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:03,560
Speaker 1: If they were too franchise tag him, that number would

732
00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:09,759
Speaker 1: have been basically twenty six million dollars. Now the transition

733
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:12,839
Speaker 1: tag would have been lower than that, but it still

734
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:16,480
Speaker 1: would have been like over twenty This is the thing

735
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:18,520
Speaker 1: why they couldn't do that, because a couple of people

736
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:21,560
Speaker 1: have asked me, you can't put a transition or a

737
00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:25,040
Speaker 1: franchise tag number if you do not have the cap space.

738
00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:27,439
Speaker 1: So if the let's just pick a number twenty five

739
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:30,560
Speaker 1: million dollars, you have to have twenty five million dollars

740
00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:33,839
Speaker 1: in space. Because this is not something you can manipulate.

741
00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:37,920
Speaker 1: You can't fudge the numbers. The number is the number

742
00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:41,000
Speaker 1: for one year and part of the reason they couldn't

743
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:43,319
Speaker 1: do it because they didn't have the space or they

744
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:45,640
Speaker 1: weren't willing to cut and get rid of other guys

745
00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:49,560
Speaker 1: to create the space. It was he was extremely expensive,

746
00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:51,799
Speaker 1: whether they wanted to keep him or whether they let

747
00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:58,960
Speaker 1: him walk. I mean, think about this. His cap hit

748
00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:05,320
Speaker 1: would have been the fifth most on the team. It

749
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:11,000
Speaker 1: would have gone Lamar, Rokwan, Mattabuque, Crosby and him one

750
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:15,359
Speaker 1: through five. Lamar this year's seventy four million dollars, which

751
00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:17,600
Speaker 1: might change in a couple of days, but they would

752
00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:21,759
Speaker 1: have had to get that done, the Lamar finagling of

753
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:26,680
Speaker 1: the contract before tomorrow or if you're listening to this today,

754
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:31,879
Speaker 1: you're basically putting a puzzle together. And maybe they thought

755
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:34,279
Speaker 1: they wouldn't have been able to get Lamar done. So

756
00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:38,560
Speaker 1: I don't think the Ravens really liked him, but there

757
00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:41,200
Speaker 1: were financial constraints that there was nothing you could do.

758
00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:48,399
Speaker 1: Like you don't think how he liked Reblanketship. You don't

759
00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:50,880
Speaker 1: think Sirianni and the staff and Vic Fangio wanted to

760
00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:53,640
Speaker 1: keep him. There comes to a point again, Money's all relative,

761
00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:55,640
Speaker 1: whether it's ten million whether it's twenty five million, whether

762
00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:59,080
Speaker 1: it's forty million, you don't have the money. You don't

763
00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:01,200
Speaker 1: have the money. Not that they I mean the owner

764
00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:03,680
Speaker 1: literally has the money, but the salary cap limits what

765
00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:06,840
Speaker 1: you can do. So I think that plays a huge,

766
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:12,240
Speaker 1: huge role in a lot of franchise decisions, And now

767
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:14,439
Speaker 1: that a lot of these good teams have huge cap

768
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:17,120
Speaker 1: numbers on three or four players, it's harder for them

769
00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:20,719
Speaker 1: to franchise tag a player after free agency is over.

770
00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:23,800
Speaker 1: Could you talk on the pod about what NFL scouting

771
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:26,160
Speaker 1: interviews are like? I've heard you talk about how to

772
00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:29,640
Speaker 1: get into the industry, but never about what the interviews

773
00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:33,040
Speaker 1: themselves are Like. I'd love to know how technical, personally

774
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:37,280
Speaker 1: personality based each interview is, or if they ask questions

775
00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:41,879
Speaker 1: to gauge the interviewees knowledge of that franchise. Also, who

776
00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:44,960
Speaker 1: is conducting those lower level scout interviews. I assume it's

777
00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:47,680
Speaker 1: not the GM, but I have no idea. I'm interning

778
00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:50,600
Speaker 1: in high finance this summer, but have always wanted to

779
00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:53,120
Speaker 1: be a scout and I feel like this would be

780
00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:56,879
Speaker 1: super cool to learn about. Well, I've only been into one.

781
00:43:57,800 --> 00:43:59,600
Speaker 1: I guess I've been a part of other interviews when

782
00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:03,840
Speaker 1: other guys interviewed. When I interviewed for the Eagles, I

783
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:06,440
Speaker 1: just met with our crew. So our crew at the

784
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:12,760
Speaker 1: time was I was picked up by the guy whose

785
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:16,040
Speaker 1: position I was taking over. He brought me to the office.

786
00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:19,440
Speaker 1: I met with Lewis Riddick, who you now see on ESPN.

787
00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:23,240
Speaker 1: He gave me a couple players to watch. I actually

788
00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:26,560
Speaker 1: went to eat lunch or I guess breakfast in the

789
00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:30,400
Speaker 1: cafeteria and there were like three other people there, multiple

790
00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:33,000
Speaker 1: people interviewing for the same position, and then other guys

791
00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:35,120
Speaker 1: interviewing for other positions. It was like, God, this is

792
00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:38,160
Speaker 1: like this is like doggy dog here. It was kind

793
00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:40,760
Speaker 1: of intimidating. They gave me a couple of players to watch.

794
00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:43,600
Speaker 1: I watched them. I kind of wrote them up on

795
00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:45,960
Speaker 1: a piece of paper. I think I gave it back

796
00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:51,760
Speaker 1: and then I think I met with Veach. Me and Veach,

797
00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:54,239
Speaker 1: who was like the SEC scout at the time. It

798
00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:56,560
Speaker 1: was kind of like a hybrid role. We kind of

799
00:44:56,600 --> 00:44:59,600
Speaker 1: talked football, talk life. I think I ended up meeting

800
00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:03,319
Speaker 1: with how I don't know a lot of it. You know,

801
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:05,880
Speaker 1: once they say Okay, this guy knows enough football to

802
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:09,400
Speaker 1: come take over this position. Then it's kind of getting

803
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:12,759
Speaker 1: a feel for the guy. So a personality is pretty big.

804
00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:15,719
Speaker 1: For sure. You have to have a base level of

805
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:18,920
Speaker 1: football knowledge. And in that interview, they didn't know me. Right.

806
00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:21,800
Speaker 1: If you're if you've been ten years for the Packers

807
00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:25,279
Speaker 1: and you're interviewing with the less Sneed or you know,

808
00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:31,280
Speaker 1: Jason light Like, it's probably less getting super super nerdy

809
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:33,880
Speaker 1: on football. It's like, no, you know football, you've been

810
00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:36,240
Speaker 1: the college scouting director for the Packers for ten years.

811
00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:38,920
Speaker 1: It's probably more getting to know you the guy, maybe

812
00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:42,080
Speaker 1: some big picture thoughts you've had, maybe things you've learned

813
00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:46,560
Speaker 1: throughout your career. For my position at the lowest level,

814
00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:50,760
Speaker 1: it's I would say this my recommendation for lowest level

815
00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:53,440
Speaker 1: people and having been one, I mean I've been a

816
00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:56,719
Speaker 1: low level guy to start my career in my twenties,

817
00:45:56,800 --> 00:46:00,200
Speaker 1: where you just do I mean pick up sandwiches at

818
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:03,160
Speaker 1: gas for people. I mean I have done the dumbest

819
00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:07,920
Speaker 1: and lowest level task you can think of basically right

820
00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:10,680
Speaker 1: up to like cleaning the toilets, to then be coming

821
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:14,440
Speaker 1: working your way up. Your personality and just your willingness

822
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:18,560
Speaker 1: to do anything is really really important. It's why Jackson

823
00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:20,680
Speaker 1: wearing me out when I was at the golf course.

824
00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:23,200
Speaker 1: Why he kind of stood out. It's like he just

825
00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:25,080
Speaker 1: had a lot of energy and a lot of passion.

826
00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:28,160
Speaker 1: And I think most people, if I'm hiring you to

827
00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:31,839
Speaker 1: be my offensive coordinator or my financial advisor, like you're

828
00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:33,640
Speaker 1: gonna have to have a resume and know what you're doing.

829
00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:36,680
Speaker 1: But if you're taking over a position, like an entry

830
00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:39,920
Speaker 1: level position, a lot of it's gonna be energy effort.

831
00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:43,160
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm watching Jackson at the combine just fucking

832
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:48,080
Speaker 1: fire around, interviewing McAfee and getting videos of me talking everything.

833
00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:50,960
Speaker 1: It's just a lot of it. When you're young, and

834
00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:53,960
Speaker 1: when I was in my early to mid twenties, it's

835
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:57,480
Speaker 1: just like positive attitude, energy effort, Like what do you

836
00:46:57,560 --> 00:47:01,680
Speaker 1: need throw some like energy ideas out there. It's less

837
00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:05,600
Speaker 1: about can you figure out this entire business that's not

838
00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:09,680
Speaker 1: as important, not that you can't develop into that. But

839
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:11,840
Speaker 1: I would say one thing I brought to the table

840
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:14,640
Speaker 1: and something that I look for in people is just

841
00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:19,279
Speaker 1: like energy effort passion. You know, when you're young and

842
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:21,040
Speaker 1: if you're smart enough and if you have a feel

843
00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:23,440
Speaker 1: for whatever you're doing, like you in finance or us

844
00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:26,040
Speaker 1: in the podcast business, you're gonna be just fine and

845
00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:29,680
Speaker 1: figure it out. But it's pretty hard to take entry

846
00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:31,719
Speaker 1: level people that don't have a lot of juice, Like

847
00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:36,080
Speaker 1: I'm not a big person that gravitates to people without juice. Like,

848
00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:39,160
Speaker 1: you gotta have some juice, and then as time grows,

849
00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:40,960
Speaker 1: you gotta have ideas, you gotta be able to execute.

850
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:43,600
Speaker 1: You gotta come through. But like when you're really young,

851
00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:45,360
Speaker 1: just getting your foot in the door, Like it's to me,

852
00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:48,279
Speaker 1: it's a lot about like that's what I brought to

853
00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:52,680
Speaker 1: the table for the Eagles was just this guy's just

854
00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:56,320
Speaker 1: bringing it now. I was fucking up a lot lose things.

855
00:47:56,360 --> 00:48:01,640
Speaker 1: I wasn't the most I would say punctual is the

856
00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:03,520
Speaker 1: wrong way. I was punctual. I was always on time,

857
00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:08,720
Speaker 1: but there was like a you had to be pretty

858
00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:11,920
Speaker 1: dialed in with your ability to keep track of a

859
00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:14,880
Speaker 1: lot of different things. And at the time technology wasn't

860
00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:16,919
Speaker 1: as good as it is now, so like you're keeping

861
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:19,279
Speaker 1: things on paper. It was a lot. I mean, it

862
00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:22,640
Speaker 1: was intense, but I think what saved me is people

863
00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:25,080
Speaker 1: like me. You know, so what I screw up, it's

864
00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:29,640
Speaker 1: like why I get fired, gonna get screamed at. Didn't

865
00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:31,240
Speaker 1: necessarily think at the time. There were a couple of times,

866
00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:34,680
Speaker 1: like I thought that Freso state that coach Hill would

867
00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:38,040
Speaker 1: fired me like multiple times puts a little hair in

868
00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:41,560
Speaker 1: your chest. Though a lot of teams should be interested

869
00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:44,000
Speaker 1: in Kyler Murray. I think him going to the Vikings

870
00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:47,080
Speaker 1: is a perfect fit. But shouldn't the following teams reach

871
00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:50,360
Speaker 1: out to the Texans, the Colts, the Steelers, the Saints,

872
00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:53,919
Speaker 1: the Falcons and the Dolphins. I think they're all reaching out.

873
00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:57,040
Speaker 1: I mean, clearly Kevin Stefanski's too athletic and is too

874
00:48:57,040 --> 00:49:03,080
Speaker 1: strong with an arm. I think Kyler is a pretty

875
00:49:03,120 --> 00:49:06,440
Speaker 1: fascinating individual, whether it's fair or not. I do think

876
00:49:06,520 --> 00:49:10,000
Speaker 1: perception becomes reality and back to the call almost a

877
00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:12,600
Speaker 1: call her daddy call a duty thing I do think

878
00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:19,279
Speaker 1: hangs over his head. I don't know. I think he

879
00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:22,040
Speaker 1: would be the type guy that if you talk to

880
00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:25,279
Speaker 1: ten coaches, you would hear like ten different opinions. But

881
00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:27,279
Speaker 1: I don't think a lot of people would stake their

882
00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:29,959
Speaker 1: job on Kyler Murray. I mean he's gotten multiple people

883
00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:33,920
Speaker 1: fired now, I mean he just has. I've heard you

884
00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:36,640
Speaker 1: mentioned the Rams a lot recently. My guess as he

885
00:49:36,719 --> 00:49:40,560
Speaker 1: ends up on the on the Vikings, just because that's

886
00:49:40,600 --> 00:49:43,040
Speaker 1: what everyone says. You know, he's not going to go

887
00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:45,719
Speaker 1: back to the Cardinals. Gino's on the Jets. He's not

888
00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:48,560
Speaker 1: going to the Jets. The Dolphins don't need him, like

889
00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:51,920
Speaker 1: where his options? That's why I've said all along, like

890
00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:54,480
Speaker 1: calling Andy Reda like hey, can I be your backup?

891
00:49:54,560 --> 00:49:57,720
Speaker 1: Can I resurrect my career as a backup kind of works?

892
00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:00,480
Speaker 1: As Sam donold what it's like, resurrect your career as

893
00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:17,439
Speaker 1: a backup kind of worked. Look at Mac Jones, I've

894
00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:19,759
Speaker 1: heard you mentioned the Rams a lot recently about how

895
00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:23,040
Speaker 1: making the trade with Atlanta is why they're in position

896
00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:26,279
Speaker 1: they are in now. My question is if they just

897
00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:28,839
Speaker 1: drafted James Pierce, don't you think they could be Super

898
00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:32,520
Speaker 1: Bowl champs? Seeing as they came close in the NFC

899
00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:36,880
Speaker 1: Championship game, he'd be a headache right now, A headache,

900
00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:40,120
Speaker 1: a headache. Have you read some of the stories that

901
00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:42,960
Speaker 1: have come out about the situation with the WNBA player

902
00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:46,920
Speaker 1: about leading up the weeks leading up to the incident.

903
00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:51,799
Speaker 1: I never I've said this forever. I do not go

904
00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:58,520
Speaker 1: to my athletes, my fucking celebrities. My leagues, if you're

905
00:50:58,560 --> 00:51:01,520
Speaker 1: looking for life lessons and them to be the moral

906
00:51:01,520 --> 00:51:04,920
Speaker 1: compass of your life, you have a massive missing hole somewhere.

907
00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:10,120
Speaker 1: Your parents, your grandparents, your significant others, that people have

908
00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:14,040
Speaker 1: let you down. So if you hold them accountable to

909
00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:17,279
Speaker 1: what you would hold your own children accountable for, you

910
00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:20,279
Speaker 1: got it. You got problems. I'm sorry. I've never looked

911
00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:22,600
Speaker 1: at Their job is to make money and win games,

912
00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:25,439
Speaker 1: and we can debate on the order. So people get

913
00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:27,520
Speaker 1: into business with guys like James Pierce all the time.

914
00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:30,799
Speaker 1: But when you get in business with James Pierce, it

915
00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:34,120
Speaker 1: can backfire, and as it did on the Falcons, backfired hard.

916
00:51:35,360 --> 00:51:37,000
Speaker 1: I've never wanted to say, like, yeah, he won't to

917
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:39,520
Speaker 1: play the league. I would be stunned if he's in

918
00:51:39,560 --> 00:51:43,480
Speaker 1: the NFL in twenty twenty six. So that pick is

919
00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:47,040
Speaker 1: a disaster. He got ten sacks out of him, but

920
00:51:47,080 --> 00:51:49,239
Speaker 1: you missed the playoffs. And now who knows when he's

921
00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:53,840
Speaker 1: gonna he might go to jail for years like not

922
00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:55,560
Speaker 1: like you know, I spent thirty days in jail. We've

923
00:51:55,560 --> 00:51:57,040
Speaker 1: seen guys spend thirty days in jail, come out and

924
00:51:57,040 --> 00:51:58,880
Speaker 1: play hell. Michael Vick's been a couple of years, almost

925
00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:01,439
Speaker 1: won the MVP when I was in Philip This guy

926
00:52:01,520 --> 00:52:06,520
Speaker 1: could be going away for a while. So I don't

927
00:52:06,560 --> 00:52:09,440
Speaker 1: think the Rams have ever thought twice. Plus, I think

928
00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:11,640
Speaker 1: there's a pretty good chance James Pearce wasn't on their

929
00:52:11,680 --> 00:52:14,239
Speaker 1: draft board because do you know what good teams do,

930
00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:17,960
Speaker 1: They go, this isn't worth it. And I always say

931
00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:21,160
Speaker 1: this about well. We weren't comfortable taking him in the

932
00:52:21,239 --> 00:52:24,000
Speaker 1: first because he was a massive red flag off the field,

933
00:52:24,040 --> 00:52:26,560
Speaker 1: but in the fourth round he was too good to

934
00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:29,640
Speaker 1: pass up. Which is true that you have to give

935
00:52:29,719 --> 00:52:33,440
Speaker 1: him less money, So you're passing up giving him guaranteed

936
00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:35,520
Speaker 1: money to now give him a couple hundred grand. You

937
00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:37,680
Speaker 1: can cut him whenever you want, but you're still getting

938
00:52:37,680 --> 00:52:40,080
Speaker 1: that guy on your team. He's still coming in the building,

939
00:52:40,239 --> 00:52:43,160
Speaker 1: he's still interacting with your guys. Your coaches still have

940
00:52:43,160 --> 00:52:46,320
Speaker 1: to deal with them. Jim washbur In, the famous defensive

941
00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:48,160
Speaker 1: line coach, told me one time, he said, you guys

942
00:52:48,239 --> 00:52:51,879
Speaker 1: up there, it's so easy for you to say, coach,

943
00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:53,719
Speaker 1: this guy's a fucking headache. But look at this guy

944
00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:57,279
Speaker 1: bend the edge, look at this guy bullrush. And then

945
00:52:57,320 --> 00:52:58,880
Speaker 1: we draft him and you don't have to deal with

946
00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:01,200
Speaker 1: him anymore. And he's in my meeting room every single

947
00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:04,399
Speaker 1: day for six months. It's my problem. There's some truth

948
00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:05,759
Speaker 1: to that, and I say, coach, that's why you guys

949
00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:11,400
Speaker 1: make way more money than all the scouts. But James Pierce,

950
00:53:12,680 --> 00:53:16,440
Speaker 1: I'll say this, if there was a redraft of twenty

951
00:53:16,560 --> 00:53:21,000
Speaker 1: twenty five, James Pierce would not be selected. I can

952
00:53:21,080 --> 00:53:26,920
Speaker 1: say that with the conviction James Pierce sitting here today

953
00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:31,440
Speaker 1: would not get drafted. And it has nothing to do

954
00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:35,080
Speaker 1: with his talent because he's a baller. I appreciate your

955
00:53:35,120 --> 00:53:39,439
Speaker 1: diaper story. My son no longer needs diapers. My kid

956
00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:45,399
Speaker 1: goes through an insane amount. I mean we counted one day,

957
00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:47,520
Speaker 1: I saw it got it was like ten and two hours.

958
00:53:47,600 --> 00:53:49,399
Speaker 1: If you give the gas drops at the right time,

959
00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:53,680
Speaker 1: those pipes just started flowing. I got a pretty good

960
00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:57,400
Speaker 1: dad diary pipe story coming tomorrow. But my son no

961
00:53:57,440 --> 00:54:01,640
Speaker 1: longer needs diapers. I did, however, pay eighteen hundred, almost

962
00:54:01,640 --> 00:54:05,160
Speaker 1: sixteen hundred dollars to renew his car insurance this week.

963
00:54:05,640 --> 00:54:08,680
Speaker 1: That by six months of coverage. If he gets a

964
00:54:08,680 --> 00:54:12,640
Speaker 1: speeding ticket, quote very likely it goes up from there.

965
00:54:13,360 --> 00:54:17,319
Speaker 1: Is that better than cleaning up shit. I'm gonna say. Yes.

966
00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:21,200
Speaker 1: Funny think about parenting is your problems don't go away,

967
00:54:21,320 --> 00:54:25,480
Speaker 1: they just change. Pretty true. You could make the argument

968
00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:27,480
Speaker 1: I was thinking about this. I remember when I got

969
00:54:27,480 --> 00:54:29,600
Speaker 1: in the Tesla, when I ranted the Tesla. I think,

970
00:54:29,600 --> 00:54:31,120
Speaker 1: I think I'm gonna pull the trigger, probably the next

971
00:54:31,160 --> 00:54:33,600
Speaker 1: month or two, and get one. I got Maria a

972
00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:36,040
Speaker 1: new car, but it's like I try I get in

973
00:54:36,080 --> 00:54:40,200
Speaker 1: my car somehow. I've needed a new car for fifteen years.

974
00:54:40,600 --> 00:54:42,840
Speaker 1: My wife and kid got a new car. She already

975
00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:45,080
Speaker 1: had a newer car, but the AC didn't work well

976
00:54:45,160 --> 00:54:47,200
Speaker 1: enough in an air conditioning. I couldn't have him no

977
00:54:47,840 --> 00:54:50,400
Speaker 1: AC flow in the back. And I'm still driving this

978
00:54:50,440 --> 00:54:55,200
Speaker 1: twenty eleven beaterter Tahoe, which it doesn't I'm not a

979
00:54:55,239 --> 00:54:57,640
Speaker 1: huge car. It doesn't matter to me. But once you

980
00:54:57,680 --> 00:55:01,080
Speaker 1: get the technology of something new, it's hard to get

981
00:55:01,120 --> 00:55:05,680
Speaker 1: back into the twenty eleven. No bluetooth, you know, just

982
00:55:06,880 --> 00:55:11,000
Speaker 1: my dashboards cracking. But it's all faithful. I have no issues.

983
00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:14,800
Speaker 1: It's paid off, it's cheap. I don't drive enough to

984
00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:17,080
Speaker 1: have the gas really hit me at all. It doesn't

985
00:55:17,120 --> 00:55:19,320
Speaker 1: really matter. I'm gonna miss that car when it's gone.

986
00:55:19,360 --> 00:55:21,920
Speaker 1: But it's once you make the transition to driving a

987
00:55:21,920 --> 00:55:24,759
Speaker 1: brand new car and getting back into your beat, you're like,

988
00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:28,839
Speaker 1: this fucking sucks. But yeah, I hear you your problems.

989
00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:33,719
Speaker 1: You know, life's it's crazy as you get older. I

990
00:55:33,760 --> 00:55:36,840
Speaker 1: saw Will Compton tweet something out the other day, like

991
00:55:36,880 --> 00:55:40,000
Speaker 1: his daughter was just staring at the ceiling and he's like,

992
00:55:40,040 --> 00:55:42,600
Speaker 1: what are you thinking about, honey, And she looked at

993
00:55:42,680 --> 00:55:45,919
Speaker 1: him and she said turtles and he kind of laughed.

994
00:55:45,960 --> 00:55:49,040
Speaker 1: He's like, how simple it is the life they lead

995
00:55:49,840 --> 00:55:52,880
Speaker 1: and the older you get. Like in theory, life should

996
00:55:52,880 --> 00:55:56,040
Speaker 1: get better, you know, especially if you're married with kids,

997
00:55:56,520 --> 00:56:00,239
Speaker 1: your career, like your trajectory should be aiming up, you know,

998
00:56:00,280 --> 00:56:02,960
Speaker 1: your forties and fifties. It should be for most people.

999
00:56:03,040 --> 00:56:05,560
Speaker 1: When they do the best financially, you get to watch

1000
00:56:05,600 --> 00:56:10,400
Speaker 1: your kids grow. But the stresses of life, the things

1001
00:56:10,440 --> 00:56:12,839
Speaker 1: of you know, giving a young I would imagine your

1002
00:56:12,880 --> 00:56:16,279
Speaker 1: kids sixteen or seventeen years old. Like, looking back, my

1003
00:56:16,480 --> 00:56:21,920
Speaker 1: grandpa had given me a nineteen ninety four brown like

1004
00:56:22,719 --> 00:56:25,480
Speaker 1: diarrhea brown. I mean it was just an ugly looking car,

1005
00:56:26,080 --> 00:56:28,279
Speaker 1: but it's my dad wasn't gonna give me a car.

1006
00:56:28,320 --> 00:56:31,000
Speaker 1: So luckily my grandpa would. He gave me when I

1007
00:56:31,040 --> 00:56:34,160
Speaker 1: turned sixteen, like two thousand and one ish two thousand

1008
00:56:34,160 --> 00:56:37,160
Speaker 1: and two, his Ford Explorer, And I was mobing that thing.

1009
00:56:37,680 --> 00:56:39,480
Speaker 1: I mean back in the day, in the eighties and

1010
00:56:39,560 --> 00:56:43,600
Speaker 1: nineties cars. I mean, once you've got above in most cars,

1011
00:56:43,640 --> 00:56:47,680
Speaker 1: like I'm not talking like Corvettes, but just your average truck, SUV,

1012
00:56:48,600 --> 00:56:52,040
Speaker 1: Ford Tourists or whatever. Once you hit like sixty sixty five,

1013
00:56:52,239 --> 00:56:54,839
Speaker 1: started rattling a little bit. Now it's like I see

1014
00:56:54,880 --> 00:56:57,680
Speaker 1: Miles Garrett, he gets all these speeding tickets. Well, yeah,

1015
00:56:58,000 --> 00:57:00,560
Speaker 1: he's worth hundreds of millions of dollars. He's driving the

1016
00:57:00,560 --> 00:57:04,040
Speaker 1: best cars. If you tap on the gas, you go

1017
00:57:04,120 --> 00:57:06,320
Speaker 1: like eighty and you don't even feel it. My wife's

1018
00:57:06,320 --> 00:57:10,120
Speaker 1: new Tahoe, you go eighty, It's like it's smooth. You know.

1019
00:57:10,880 --> 00:57:13,839
Speaker 1: My parents had an expedition. I remember my dad got

1020
00:57:13,840 --> 00:57:16,840
Speaker 1: a new one like two thousand and back back then,

1021
00:57:16,920 --> 00:57:19,800
Speaker 1: like like a brand new, fully loaded expeditions like thirty

1022
00:57:19,800 --> 00:57:22,520
Speaker 1: grand But I remember mobing that thing a little bit

1023
00:57:22,520 --> 00:57:24,040
Speaker 1: when I was sixteen. He'd let me take it every

1024
00:57:24,040 --> 00:57:25,880
Speaker 1: once in a while, like a Friday night with my buddies.

1025
00:57:26,760 --> 00:57:31,240
Speaker 1: What you got above like you couldn't sniff going eighty

1026
00:57:31,400 --> 00:57:34,200
Speaker 1: without feeling like that whole thing was gonna fall apart.

1027
00:57:34,480 --> 00:57:37,200
Speaker 1: Now every car, I mean, my brother's a farmer. You

1028
00:57:37,200 --> 00:57:40,400
Speaker 1: get in his trucks. The newer versions you can go

1029
00:57:40,440 --> 00:57:43,400
Speaker 1: seventy five and it feels like you're going thirty. So

1030
00:57:43,720 --> 00:57:45,880
Speaker 1: I don't know how any of these kids. But back

1031
00:57:45,920 --> 00:57:47,760
Speaker 1: to my tesla story. When I read of that tesla,

1032
00:57:47,920 --> 00:57:50,520
Speaker 1: when we went to visit my family in Reno and

1033
00:57:50,560 --> 00:57:52,720
Speaker 1: you're just flying around zero in a sixty like I'm

1034
00:57:52,760 --> 00:57:55,840
Speaker 1: in an F one car. I can't imagine having a

1035
00:57:55,880 --> 00:57:59,160
Speaker 1: sixteen year old boy and letting them drive a Tesla.

1036
00:57:59,360 --> 00:58:02,800
Speaker 1: I would one hundred percent of crash that thing twenty

1037
00:58:02,880 --> 00:58:05,479
Speaker 1: years ago. One hundred percent that there is no doubt

1038
00:58:05,480 --> 00:58:07,800
Speaker 1: in my mind when I was sixteen, seventeen, eighteen years

1039
00:58:07,800 --> 00:58:11,400
Speaker 1: old that me or my friends would have totaled teslas.

1040
00:58:11,480 --> 00:58:14,080
Speaker 1: They just would have been too fast. We would We

1041
00:58:14,160 --> 00:58:17,800
Speaker 1: went so fast in our shitty cars. And the other

1042
00:58:17,840 --> 00:58:21,000
Speaker 1: thing is you as you get older. I remember being

1043
00:58:21,000 --> 00:58:23,400
Speaker 1: a kid and you know you live in a neighborhood.

1044
00:58:23,880 --> 00:58:26,240
Speaker 1: Oh you know there were people, obviously with young children

1045
00:58:26,240 --> 00:58:28,120
Speaker 1: in my neighborhood that were always screaming at you to

1046
00:58:28,160 --> 00:58:30,280
Speaker 1: slow down, right, and then they put the things out

1047
00:58:30,280 --> 00:58:34,040
Speaker 1: front that have like kids at play twenty five miles

1048
00:58:34,040 --> 00:58:36,040
Speaker 1: an hour and under, and you're young, you're thinking like

1049
00:58:36,080 --> 00:58:39,439
Speaker 1: this fucking loser, And then the older you get, now

1050
00:58:39,640 --> 00:58:44,919
Speaker 1: I scream at like Amazon drivers like slow down, what's

1051
00:58:44,960 --> 00:58:47,560
Speaker 1: so fast? And I've already told Maria, like, there's this

1052
00:58:47,600 --> 00:58:50,680
Speaker 1: one place where we live that it's kind of you

1053
00:58:50,720 --> 00:58:53,640
Speaker 1: can't really see, and most people in the neighborhood go

1054
00:58:53,680 --> 00:58:57,760
Speaker 1: relatively slow, but there are definitely some of these delivery

1055
00:58:57,840 --> 00:59:01,000
Speaker 1: drivers that come around the corner, like Lewis Hamilton. So

1056
00:59:01,080 --> 00:59:02,800
Speaker 1: I say, hey, we walk Jack. We got to be

1057
00:59:02,840 --> 00:59:05,800
Speaker 1: on the other side because if this guy's coming thirty

1058
00:59:05,840 --> 00:59:07,520
Speaker 1: miles an hour and we can't see him, that there's

1059
00:59:07,520 --> 00:59:10,560
Speaker 1: no room for him around this corner, it'd be a disaster.

1060
00:59:10,600 --> 00:59:12,960
Speaker 1: I think by sometimes when I'm walking the dog. I mean,

1061
00:59:13,200 --> 00:59:15,200
Speaker 1: I've screamed to people to slow down five people in

1062
00:59:15,240 --> 00:59:19,200
Speaker 1: the last like three weeks. So I hear you your problems,

1063
00:59:19,320 --> 00:59:24,160
Speaker 1: just just change good problems to have expensive you know,

1064
00:59:24,200 --> 00:59:29,240
Speaker 1: you value you know, I don't think your kids really

1065
00:59:29,320 --> 00:59:31,920
Speaker 1: value all that type stuff. And then you get out

1066
00:59:31,920 --> 00:59:34,880
Speaker 1: and once one day, all those bills start coming your

1067
00:59:34,920 --> 00:59:42,400
Speaker 1: way and you're like, wait, this actually costs money. Car

1068
00:59:42,440 --> 00:59:48,440
Speaker 1: insurance is outrageous. I was watching a video on Fernando

1069
00:59:48,520 --> 00:59:51,920
Speaker 1: Mendoza breaking down his pros and cons as a quarterback,

1070
00:59:52,520 --> 00:59:55,480
Speaker 1: kind of sounding like an NFL scout, which got me thinking,

1071
00:59:55,600 --> 00:59:58,320
Speaker 1: as a former scout, did you have any knowledge of

1072
00:59:58,360 --> 01:00:01,480
Speaker 1: the schematical side of the sport to help in scouting

1073
01:00:01,680 --> 01:00:07,760
Speaker 1: or was that something you left to the coaches. Knowing

1074
01:00:07,760 --> 01:00:11,520
Speaker 1: how players recoverages, their angles on tackles, hand and foot placement,

1075
01:00:11,720 --> 01:00:14,440
Speaker 1: dropping depth. Did you pay attention to any of that

1076
01:00:14,520 --> 01:00:16,800
Speaker 1: stuff or was it just based on how good of

1077
01:00:16,800 --> 01:00:20,400
Speaker 1: a player they were overall? PS hope Jack is feeling

1078
01:00:20,800 --> 01:00:23,480
Speaker 1: better and wish you and Maria all the best. I

1079
01:00:23,480 --> 01:00:29,080
Speaker 1: appreciate that well. In my experience, my office and the

1080
01:00:29,120 --> 01:00:31,880
Speaker 1: scouting and recruiting offices at Fresno and and Philly were

1081
01:00:31,920 --> 01:00:35,040
Speaker 1: with the coaches, So you were spending so much time

1082
01:00:35,120 --> 01:00:40,040
Speaker 1: around those guys that your knowledge of like football nerdy

1083
01:00:40,080 --> 01:00:46,120
Speaker 1: scheme just improves exponentially, I mean really really fast, because

1084
01:00:46,120 --> 01:00:48,920
Speaker 1: you're you're just kind of inundated in that world. And

1085
01:00:48,960 --> 01:00:52,640
Speaker 1: then when you actually scout, like if you're just watching

1086
01:00:52,800 --> 01:00:55,560
Speaker 1: a guy Fernanda Mendoza, you don't know the play call,

1087
01:00:56,040 --> 01:00:59,200
Speaker 1: so any questions you may have on like what's he

1088
01:00:59,280 --> 01:01:01,760
Speaker 1: seeing or whatever, you take notes and then you get

1089
01:01:01,800 --> 01:01:04,120
Speaker 1: a hold of the offensive coordinator or the quarterback coach

1090
01:01:04,720 --> 01:01:07,040
Speaker 1: and then you talk to them about it. So when

1091
01:01:07,040 --> 01:01:12,040
Speaker 1: you're saying, hey, he is really good in these situations

1092
01:01:12,200 --> 01:01:14,800
Speaker 1: at reading this coverage, I thought they were getting that.

1093
01:01:14,840 --> 01:01:16,960
Speaker 1: I read an article yesterday ted to Win of the

1094
01:01:17,000 --> 01:01:20,680
Speaker 1: athletic who's a barrier guy who's really good, did a

1095
01:01:20,720 --> 01:01:24,400
Speaker 1: pretty in depth thing on Fernando Mendoza, and he got

1096
01:01:24,400 --> 01:01:26,560
Speaker 1: the quarterback coach or maybe it was the offensive coordinator

1097
01:01:27,360 --> 01:01:29,920
Speaker 1: on record, and was just kind of breaking down all

1098
01:01:30,000 --> 01:01:33,440
Speaker 1: these situations of like they went over because I think

1099
01:01:33,480 --> 01:01:37,080
Speaker 1: this guy had coached Justin Herbert with the Chargers and

1100
01:01:37,120 --> 01:01:39,480
Speaker 1: he was showing Fernando different looks and they got the

1101
01:01:39,480 --> 01:01:41,920
Speaker 1: same look against Iowa and he remembered it, and some

1102
01:01:41,960 --> 01:01:44,560
Speaker 1: of these shots against cover two, in cover three, running

1103
01:01:44,640 --> 01:01:48,720
Speaker 1: vertical routes, and it's just any questions you have. Part

1104
01:01:48,760 --> 01:01:53,000
Speaker 1: of being you know, scouting these college guys is you

1105
01:01:53,080 --> 01:01:56,720
Speaker 1: just then asked their coaches and over time you develop

1106
01:01:56,840 --> 01:02:00,800
Speaker 1: relationships with the position coaches and the coordinators that you

1107
01:02:00,840 --> 01:02:03,960
Speaker 1: can just shoot them texts, right, And I remember one

1108
01:02:03,960 --> 01:02:05,720
Speaker 1: thing one of the guys that the Eagles taught me.

1109
01:02:05,800 --> 01:02:08,880
Speaker 1: He said, your first year, when you do it, you're

1110
01:02:08,880 --> 01:02:10,320
Speaker 1: not going to know any of these guys. So go

1111
01:02:10,520 --> 01:02:13,560
Speaker 1: out of your way to send thank you cards. Like

1112
01:02:13,640 --> 01:02:15,520
Speaker 1: if you meet a guy, shoot them a cart Hey,

1113
01:02:15,880 --> 01:02:19,520
Speaker 1: nice meeting you, you know, personalized card with the team's logo,

1114
01:02:19,720 --> 01:02:22,320
Speaker 1: And those are ways to stand out. And then over

1115
01:02:22,360 --> 01:02:25,840
Speaker 1: time you've been doing it long enough, you just get

1116
01:02:25,880 --> 01:02:28,680
Speaker 1: to know these people and they get to know you,

1117
01:02:28,760 --> 01:02:30,720
Speaker 1: and that they throw ideas off you and you throw

1118
01:02:30,760 --> 01:02:33,640
Speaker 1: ideas off them. But there are gonna be certain times,

1119
01:02:33,680 --> 01:02:37,280
Speaker 1: like when you're just watching the defensive end, you can

1120
01:02:37,360 --> 01:02:38,880
Speaker 1: kind of tell like he's just being asked to go

1121
01:02:38,960 --> 01:02:41,280
Speaker 1: get the quarterback. But obviously there are sometimes with a

1122
01:02:41,320 --> 01:02:45,080
Speaker 1: corner or a linebacker, you don't know the assignment to say,

1123
01:02:45,080 --> 01:02:47,200
Speaker 1: this guy sucks and so and so coverage, Well, what

1124
01:02:47,240 --> 01:02:49,960
Speaker 1: if that's not even the coverage he's running. So you

1125
01:02:50,080 --> 01:02:52,600
Speaker 1: have to do digging and know that that's what's going on.

1126
01:02:52,640 --> 01:02:55,280
Speaker 1: And that's kind of your job because you are going

1127
01:02:55,280 --> 01:02:57,400
Speaker 1: into these schools, you get to be around these coaches

1128
01:02:59,160 --> 01:03:01,800
Speaker 1: and try to get their information unless you're going into

1129
01:03:01,800 --> 01:03:05,320
Speaker 1: North Carolina. As someone of the Combine told me, they

1130
01:03:05,320 --> 01:03:09,760
Speaker 1: are not the most welcoming university. Of all the visits

1131
01:03:10,560 --> 01:03:13,280
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray spots, I haven't heard anyone really consider Philly.

1132
01:03:13,720 --> 01:03:16,080
Speaker 1: I'd like to see Philly bring him in and compete

1133
01:03:16,120 --> 01:03:19,960
Speaker 1: with Jalen Hurts, but i'd see but i'd see them

1134
01:03:20,040 --> 01:03:23,040
Speaker 1: ultimately give Jalen the nod of how that camp went.

1135
01:03:24,040 --> 01:03:26,400
Speaker 1: I've heard a couple of people bring this up. There

1136
01:03:26,440 --> 01:03:28,280
Speaker 1: is no way Kyler could beat out Jalen Hurts in

1137
01:03:28,280 --> 01:03:31,280
Speaker 1: a training camp. That just when you factor in the money,

1138
01:03:31,800 --> 01:03:34,360
Speaker 1: when you factor in how invested they are, it wouldn't

1139
01:03:34,360 --> 01:03:35,960
Speaker 1: even be a fair fight. Even if it was a

1140
01:03:36,000 --> 01:03:37,680
Speaker 1: fair fight. And I don't think Kyler could beat him

1141
01:03:37,680 --> 01:03:40,480
Speaker 1: out to begin with. I hear what you're saying. I

1142
01:03:40,520 --> 01:03:42,600
Speaker 1: would never put it past Howie to kind of throw

1143
01:03:42,600 --> 01:03:47,000
Speaker 1: a curveball, but I think that would be pretty stunny Indy.

1144
01:03:47,160 --> 01:03:49,160
Speaker 1: I believe he would be able to beat out Daniel

1145
01:03:49,240 --> 01:03:52,040
Speaker 1: Jones if he stays on the transition tag. Also, Stiching

1146
01:03:52,160 --> 01:03:54,640
Speaker 1: got the best out of Hurts in Philly. Kyler is

1147
01:03:54,680 --> 01:03:58,200
Speaker 1: a more talented Jalen. Kyla's been really banged up. That's

1148
01:03:58,200 --> 01:04:03,080
Speaker 1: an underrated part about this conversation. He's had major injuries right,

1149
01:04:03,240 --> 01:04:06,800
Speaker 1: missed serious amounts of time this year. Was he injured

1150
01:04:06,840 --> 01:04:11,160
Speaker 1: or was he benched? But I think we're almost overvaluing

1151
01:04:11,240 --> 01:04:14,200
Speaker 1: Kyler's talent at this point. When he came out of college,

1152
01:04:14,920 --> 01:04:19,479
Speaker 1: there was no disputing his speed, his arm pop meaning

1153
01:04:19,600 --> 01:04:22,640
Speaker 1: arm strength. But I don't think that's this guy we're

1154
01:04:22,680 --> 01:04:25,240
Speaker 1: dealing with right now. So I'm not as high on

1155
01:04:25,320 --> 01:04:28,400
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray as as some people are. Maybe I'll be wrong.

1156
01:04:28,520 --> 01:04:32,640
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not acting like I know everything here.

1157
01:04:33,600 --> 01:04:36,400
Speaker 1: At what point does not doing big trades or big

1158
01:04:36,400 --> 01:04:40,480
Speaker 1: free agency moves become the owner's fault. The Lions have

1159
01:04:40,520 --> 01:04:45,320
Speaker 1: been releasing and trading cornerstone pieces and seemlessly and seemingly

1160
01:04:45,960 --> 01:04:50,160
Speaker 1: been becoming worse this offseason. After the news of Crosby,

1161
01:04:50,560 --> 01:04:54,720
Speaker 1: I'm sitting here wondering if it's Sheila Ford Hampton's Hemp's

1162
01:04:54,880 --> 01:04:57,960
Speaker 1: is that a last name, Chila For's fault for not

1163
01:04:58,000 --> 01:05:01,280
Speaker 1: having enough cash to restructure big kin tracks like Golf

1164
01:05:02,040 --> 01:05:06,120
Speaker 1: Dot Golf Golf and Pine Sewel or could it still

1165
01:05:06,120 --> 01:05:08,480
Speaker 1: be our GM being too scared to pull the trigger.

1166
01:05:08,840 --> 01:05:13,320
Speaker 1: I need answers. I don't know, man, I don't know.

1167
01:05:13,720 --> 01:05:18,720
Speaker 1: I mean, you guys, it's a raven So if I

1168
01:05:18,800 --> 01:05:24,880
Speaker 1: wanted to look at the Detroit Lions, you guys currently

1169
01:05:27,600 --> 01:05:32,120
Speaker 1: have five million dollars in cap space. Jerry Goff is

1170
01:05:32,160 --> 01:05:36,760
Speaker 1: taking almost twenty five percent of your salary cap. I'm

1171
01:05:36,840 --> 01:05:39,760
Speaker 1: in Ross Saint brown Is has a bigger salary cap

1172
01:05:39,840 --> 01:05:43,280
Speaker 1: hit than Jalen Hurts. So I mean those two guys

1173
01:05:44,200 --> 01:05:48,040
Speaker 1: are taking basically thirty five percent of your cap. And

1174
01:05:48,120 --> 01:05:50,760
Speaker 1: if you factor in you know, McNeil has kind of

1175
01:05:50,760 --> 01:05:55,040
Speaker 1: been a disaster and pine sewel you. You're talking over

1176
01:05:55,120 --> 01:06:01,320
Speaker 1: fifty percent of your cap between five guys, and you

1177
01:06:01,400 --> 01:06:06,160
Speaker 1: kind of get lucky because Aiden's contract is is manipulated

1178
01:06:06,200 --> 01:06:09,640
Speaker 1: right now, Jamison doesn't make that much. Laporta Gibs run

1179
01:06:09,760 --> 01:06:12,720
Speaker 1: rookie deals. But you know, Gibbs is gonna need a

1180
01:06:12,760 --> 01:06:16,000
Speaker 1: contract extension. If Laporta is healthy, He's gonna get a

1181
01:06:16,040 --> 01:06:19,400
Speaker 1: big contract extension. Like this is kind of the business

1182
01:06:19,400 --> 01:06:22,080
Speaker 1: you're in, you know, And it kind of starts with golf,

1183
01:06:23,160 --> 01:06:26,880
Speaker 1: Like golf makes a lot of money. God's gonna make

1184
01:06:26,880 --> 01:06:34,160
Speaker 1: fifty five million dollars this year, fifty five million in cash.

1185
01:06:34,560 --> 01:06:38,840
Speaker 1: Think about that. That's a lot of money. I mean,

1186
01:06:40,640 --> 01:06:44,800
Speaker 1: how do I look at the cash breakdown? So this

1187
01:06:44,880 --> 01:06:49,720
Speaker 1: year he's gonna make fifty five million dollars. God, Jared goffs,

1188
01:06:50,960 --> 01:06:56,040
Speaker 1: what's his career breakdown? Can I do his career earnings?

1189
01:06:56,120 --> 01:06:58,920
Speaker 1: That's what I want to see, career earnings. Let's let's

1190
01:06:58,960 --> 01:07:03,040
Speaker 1: play a game with Jared goff I'm gonna guess he

1191
01:07:03,160 --> 01:07:07,440
Speaker 1: was drafted twenty sixteen, so we're talking over a decade.

1192
01:07:07,560 --> 01:07:12,000
Speaker 1: I'm gonna guess two hundred and sixty million dollars after

1193
01:07:12,080 --> 01:07:18,960
Speaker 1: this season. I was wrong. He's made two hundred and

1194
01:07:18,960 --> 01:07:23,080
Speaker 1: sixty million dollars. Now after this season he will be

1195
01:07:24,240 --> 01:07:28,800
Speaker 1: over three hundred million dollars. So I mean Jared Gops

1196
01:07:28,800 --> 01:07:33,240
Speaker 1: living like an NBA or Major League Baseball player, underrated

1197
01:07:33,240 --> 01:07:37,120
Speaker 1: part like he there's only one cap hit in the

1198
01:07:37,200 --> 01:07:43,760
Speaker 1: league bigger than him. It's Lamar Jackson. Congrats of the baby.

1199
01:07:44,960 --> 01:07:48,240
Speaker 1: Hope to have my first here soon. Congrats to you.

1200
01:07:48,320 --> 01:07:51,040
Speaker 1: Congrats on the sex. Just a quick question for the back.

1201
01:07:51,920 --> 01:07:54,240
Speaker 1: What does this season hold for the Chargers. I've been

1202
01:07:54,240 --> 01:07:56,080
Speaker 1: a big Herbert fan since he was drafted. I'm not

1203
01:07:56,120 --> 01:07:58,760
Speaker 1: selling my Herbert Stock. Chargers have a lot of casts

1204
01:07:58,800 --> 01:08:01,640
Speaker 1: base but merely made any moves. Could you see them

1205
01:08:01,680 --> 01:08:04,240
Speaker 1: getting aj Brown? They only have five picks in this draft,

1206
01:08:04,240 --> 01:08:07,440
Speaker 1: so I figured or teas would make it rain in

1207
01:08:07,480 --> 01:08:12,440
Speaker 1: free agency. Good teams like the Raiders had to do that.

1208
01:08:12,720 --> 01:08:17,040
Speaker 1: Good teams like competitive teams, the Chargers, the Chiefs, the Broncos,

1209
01:08:17,520 --> 01:08:21,559
Speaker 1: like you just even the Bills, like you extend your

1210
01:08:21,600 --> 01:08:24,200
Speaker 1: own guys. Maybe you get a guy trade for DJ

1211
01:08:24,280 --> 01:08:27,160
Speaker 1: Moore signed Kenneth Walker. You don't signd like seven guys,

1212
01:08:27,360 --> 01:08:30,400
Speaker 1: especially day one. That's not really that's not good business.

1213
01:08:31,120 --> 01:08:33,320
Speaker 1: You want to develop the guys. You know, you're comfortable

1214
01:08:33,360 --> 01:08:35,960
Speaker 1: with those because if you do sign guys, they cost

1215
01:08:36,000 --> 01:08:38,120
Speaker 1: a lot of money. So I don't think, you know,

1216
01:08:38,160 --> 01:08:40,479
Speaker 1: Seattle's like, why isn't Seattle not signing anybody? They just

1217
01:08:40,479 --> 01:08:42,719
Speaker 1: won the fucking Super Bowl? Who are they gonna sign

1218
01:08:43,600 --> 01:08:47,400
Speaker 1: Jalen Phillips to one hundred million dollars? I just think

1219
01:08:47,439 --> 01:08:51,360
Speaker 1: that that's not really the way good teams work. Good

1220
01:08:51,360 --> 01:08:54,600
Speaker 1: teams lose guys. That's the business. When you're good, you

1221
01:08:54,720 --> 01:08:59,240
Speaker 1: lose players, especially guys that aren't top two or three

1222
01:08:59,280 --> 01:09:02,840
Speaker 1: players on your team, and if you are gonna lose

1223
01:09:02,880 --> 01:09:04,439
Speaker 1: one of the top three or four guys on the team,

1224
01:09:04,479 --> 01:09:09,760
Speaker 1: you trade them. The Chiefs. I think charging canna be

1225
01:09:09,760 --> 01:09:12,040
Speaker 1: pretty good. I mean, I think they have a chance

1226
01:09:12,080 --> 01:09:14,960
Speaker 1: to if Herbert can never figure out how to play

1227
01:09:15,000 --> 01:09:17,759
Speaker 1: well in the playoffs, I think they could win the AFC.

1228
01:09:18,479 --> 01:09:22,640
Speaker 1: I'm the number one hardball guy. I think Mike McDaniel

1229
01:09:23,000 --> 01:09:25,760
Speaker 1: saw this video of Khalil Mack, who just Khalil Mack

1230
01:09:25,800 --> 01:09:27,640
Speaker 1: looks like an actor that you would have seen like

1231
01:09:27,680 --> 01:09:30,679
Speaker 1: the nineties in an Armor Schortznaker movie, who just happens

1232
01:09:30,680 --> 01:09:34,000
Speaker 1: to be able to rush the passer. But I think

1233
01:09:34,040 --> 01:09:38,080
Speaker 1: they're gonna be pretty good. If I'm the Niners, I

1234
01:09:38,120 --> 01:09:40,479
Speaker 1: would trade mac Jones and sign Cousins on the cheap.

1235
01:09:40,800 --> 01:09:43,519
Speaker 1: Sounds too easy. What do you think? This is our

1236
01:09:43,600 --> 01:09:49,120
Speaker 1: last question. I think there's a chance Cousins a shot.

1237
01:09:49,360 --> 01:09:53,240
Speaker 1: He's thirty seven years old, the Achilles, he could never

1238
01:09:53,280 --> 01:09:57,439
Speaker 1: really move. I mean, I listen, he had become a

1239
01:09:57,479 --> 01:09:59,680
Speaker 1: really good player four or five years ago. But the

1240
01:09:59,720 --> 01:10:03,519
Speaker 1: guy we saw these last couple of years is just

1241
01:10:03,800 --> 01:10:07,240
Speaker 1: I mean, post injury is just not the same. So

1242
01:10:07,320 --> 01:10:11,240
Speaker 1: to me, I'm out on Cousins. I think Mac Jones,

1243
01:10:11,320 --> 01:10:13,559
Speaker 1: this version that the forty nine ers have found is

1244
01:10:13,800 --> 01:10:17,280
Speaker 1: dramatically better player in twenty twenty six than Kirk Cousins.

1245
01:10:18,080 --> 01:10:21,320
Speaker 1: I mean dramatically, And if money's all equal, there is

1246
01:10:21,360 --> 01:10:23,719
Speaker 1: not a question in my mind I would take mac Jones.

1247
01:10:24,400 --> 01:10:26,560
Speaker 1: I personally would not trade mac Jones if I'm the

1248
01:10:26,640 --> 01:10:30,400
Speaker 1: forty nine ers for anything less than a second round pick,

1249
01:10:30,439 --> 01:10:32,360
Speaker 1: and I don't think anyone's given them a second round pick.

1250
01:10:32,800 --> 01:10:34,439
Speaker 1: So it's just one of those where I'm just gonna

1251
01:10:34,479 --> 01:10:36,799
Speaker 1: keep mac Jones. Why because I need a good backup quarterback.

1252
01:10:37,880 --> 01:10:39,559
Speaker 1: I mean, look at the Bears, so technically, if they

1253
01:10:39,560 --> 01:10:42,519
Speaker 1: don't trade Tyson, they're gonna have three quarterbacks. You never

1254
01:10:42,560 --> 01:10:44,800
Speaker 1: know when a guy gets injured, can you win games? Like,

1255
01:10:44,920 --> 01:10:47,720
Speaker 1: if you're a team that has playoff expectations, you don't

1256
01:10:47,720 --> 01:10:51,160
Speaker 1: want your season derailed because you're starting quarterback. It happened

1257
01:10:51,200 --> 01:10:53,479
Speaker 1: in the forty nine ers two years ago. Purdy got

1258
01:10:53,520 --> 01:10:55,679
Speaker 1: hurt and Kyle Allen had to play and they immediately lost.

1259
01:10:56,560 --> 01:11:00,360
Speaker 1: This year, Purty missed a ton of games, and I

1260
01:11:00,360 --> 01:11:03,639
Speaker 1: forget mac Jones' exact record, but he won I think

1261
01:11:03,640 --> 01:11:09,439
Speaker 1: four games. He was exceptional for them, especially given what

1262
01:11:09,520 --> 01:11:12,760
Speaker 1: the expectations were. So I think mac Jones value to

1263
01:11:12,800 --> 01:11:18,559
Speaker 1: the forty nine ers is I would say, infinitely higher

1264
01:11:18,720 --> 01:11:21,240
Speaker 1: in their building than it is to anyone else. And

1265
01:11:21,280 --> 01:11:23,680
Speaker 1: typically when you have that for a guys like yeah,

1266
01:11:23,720 --> 01:11:26,040
Speaker 1: we'd be open trading him. Well, you can't trade a

1267
01:11:26,080 --> 01:11:28,760
Speaker 1: guy if I value him way more than the entire

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Speaker 1: league because whatever anyone's gonna offer me is not gonna

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Speaker 1: be high enough. Listen, we all have delusions, probably the

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Speaker 1: wrong word, because they saw it. They felt mac Jones.

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Speaker 1: I mean he carried them at times. I mean he

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Speaker 1: was unreal in the Rams game, playing with random guys

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Speaker 1: after they had just lost Bosa. So I just think

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Speaker 1: that a lot of teams like, yeah, take Mack Jones

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Speaker 1: like a fourth round pick, and the forty nine ers like,

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Speaker 1: we're not giving away for a fourth round pick. And

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Speaker 1: that's why he'll just stay on the forty nine ers,

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Speaker 1: my guess. And I think I saw today Rassini said

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Speaker 1: like the asking price is astronomical, which is one of

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Speaker 1: my favorite words. So I could see that no different

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Speaker 1: than this is different, but how he's asking price. Obviously

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Speaker 1: A J. Brown is a better player in mac Jones

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Speaker 1: is way higher than clearly the league is willing to

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Speaker 1: give him, which I don't blame him because of how

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Speaker 1: he goes. I'll just keep aj Brown, right, He's already

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Speaker 1: on my books. He's one of the most talented players

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Speaker 1: in the league. Like, if you're not willing to give

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Speaker 1: me what I need for him, I'll just keep him

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Speaker 1: and I'll just deal with his emotions somehow, some way,

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Speaker 1: because I'm not just gonna give him to you for

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Speaker 1: a third round pick, which I originally thought was gonna

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Speaker 1: be the case like two months ago, and then at

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Speaker 1: the combine, I was like, that is not happening. They

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Speaker 1: are not just giving this guy away. They fucking like

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Speaker 1: him internally, the players like him, the coaches like him.

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Speaker 1: He just wants the ball. He just wants the day

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Speaker 1: of ball. Which listen, he's a receiver. Hard to blame him.

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Speaker 1: The volume