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Speaker 2: Eight seven to seven three. DP Show operator Tyler is

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Speaker 2: sitting by. At the end of last hour, had a

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Speaker 2: phone call Rich in Chicago was basically telling me to

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Speaker 2: stay in my lane talking about c J. Stroud with

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Speaker 2: the Texans, and I wouldn't extend him. Not now. I

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Speaker 2: want to see another year because do I want to

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Speaker 2: give sixty million dollars or do I want to bolster

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Speaker 2: the offensive line because you might not be able to

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Speaker 2: do both. But they've got a couple of skill position

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Speaker 2: players mixing got hurt. But Tank Dell, you know, Nico

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Speaker 2: Collins Schultz. You know, they have some players, and they

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Speaker 2: were a playoff team and they are really good defensive

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Speaker 2: team as well, so they're not that far away. But

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Speaker 2: we had a caller who thought that I was casting

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Speaker 2: aspersions on CJ. Stroud, as if I was making this personal.

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Speaker 2: I'm just telling you what I feel when I'm watching this.

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Speaker 2: I have no bias whatsoever. Hey, if he's great, pay

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Speaker 2: him sixty million dollars. Couldn't care less. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: The best part of that discussion is that it's essentially

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Speaker 3: no one wins, no one's wrong. You know, all right,

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Speaker 3: you're gonna pay him, payhim? See what happens, yeah, or don't? Okay,

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Speaker 3: and then don't. There really is It's almost like there's

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Speaker 3: no point to it in some regard other than like,

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Speaker 3: do you like c J.

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Speaker 4: Stroud as a quarterback right now or not?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: And I brought up Bryce Young that I wouldn't extend

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Speaker 2: him either. That's not a great comparison. By the way,

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Speaker 2: If you're like CJ. Strapp is one of the best

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Speaker 2: quarterbacks in the league, what are you talking about? Do

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Speaker 2: you gotta pay Bryce Young?

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Speaker 4: Ah Man?

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Speaker 3: That's not who you start with when you're comparing them

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Speaker 3: to great quarterbacks.

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Speaker 2: In the league. Well, Bryce Young did make the playoffs,

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Speaker 2: that's all I mean.

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Speaker 3: I get why you would compare them, but that's not

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Speaker 3: the one that you want to make.

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Speaker 2: But if you're at that point where you got to

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Speaker 2: make a decision, I'm not extending either one of those

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Speaker 2: guys early. I want you to prove it, and it

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Speaker 2: might be prove it for two years. But he has

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Speaker 2: shown glimpses, certainly his first year. But what nineteen touchdowns

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Speaker 2: maybe eight interceptions. That's not a franchise quarterback. But blame

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Speaker 2: blame the Texans, Blame blame the front office. There's the one.

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Speaker 2: They're the ones that didn't, you know, bolster fortify that

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Speaker 2: offensive line. And that goes back to what I've said

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Speaker 2: about Andrew Luck. If you spend one hundred million on

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Speaker 2: your core back and you spend you know, one hundred

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Speaker 2: dollars on your offensive line, we know how this ends.

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Speaker 2: And I kept saying it's malpracticed what the Colts were doing.

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Speaker 2: They didn't build the offensive line when they got Andrew Luck.

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Speaker 2: This is what Vegas should be doing. The cautionary tale

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Speaker 2: for the Raiders should be Andrew Luck and the Colts. Yes, Marvin,

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Speaker 2: and back to your CT shroud point.

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Speaker 6: Troy Aikman was talking about this during the playoff game, like, look,

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Speaker 6: the Texas have decisions to make going into the off season.

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Speaker 6: If you want to pay this guy sixty million dollars

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Speaker 6: after throwing four interceptions in a playoff game.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what's Troy know about playing quarterbacks? Oh and money? Yeah, yes, Todd.

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Speaker 7: I don't understand how he got so crazy with you

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Speaker 7: like that. But there's no bashing involved.

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Speaker 8: You're just you know your opinion like you're supposed to do.

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Speaker 2: I think because I brought it up to a couple

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Speaker 2: of different guests. But you know, this is a fact

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Speaker 2: finding mission that we have sometimes where we actually try

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Speaker 2: to get answers from people, analyst experts. And that's why

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Speaker 2: I asked the question. Somebody may come back and say,

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Speaker 2: you know what, he's one of the best quarterbacks. They'd

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Speaker 2: be crazy to move on from him. They'd be crazy

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Speaker 2: not to extend him. Okay, then I give you that opportunity.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what your answer is going to be.

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Speaker 2: You may fire back and say that's ridiculous. Okay, But

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Speaker 2: I asked the questions because I'm curious about what the

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Speaker 2: answers are. All right, Seeton pull question for hour two. Man,

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Speaker 2: I'm fired up, I'm ready to go.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it might be are you paying CJ.

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Speaker 4: Stroud or not?

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Speaker 2: Actually? I think we are going to do that.

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Speaker 4: We have up there right now.

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Speaker 3: Would you rather a player sixty games for fifteen years

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Speaker 3: or eighty two games for eleven years?

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Speaker 4: Right now?

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Speaker 3: That's hovering at about sixty nine percent, Ah with eighty

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Speaker 2: Of all the Jersey numbers that Todd got with the

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Speaker 2: San Jose Sharks, he got the number sixty nine. It's time, yes, Marvin.

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Speaker 6: And also when so Joe, Joe and Ah who got

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Speaker 6: numbers do you want? And I said, you know, can

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Speaker 6: you give me thirteen? And Todd said, hey, can I

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Speaker 6: get either ten or sixty nine? Do you really think

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Speaker 6: they were going to give you number ten if sixty

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Speaker 6: nine was the other option?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 7: The fact that I just put that out there as

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Speaker 2: But why did you want the number ten?

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Speaker 7: Because I'm ten, ten sixty nine and I liked the

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Speaker 7: number ten a lot. I had number ten in literally

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Speaker 7: because I loved Chris Chambliss growing up and I played

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Speaker 7: first base. There's a lot of connections to ten. It's

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Speaker 7: a nice round number, not as round as sixty nine

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Speaker 7: depending on the situation.

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Speaker 2: Oh nice. And that led to the inappropriate text message

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Speaker 2: that you sent to your wife with your kids on

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Speaker 2: the text mail change.

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Speaker 7: Yes, I sent the photo of my Fritz sixty nine

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Speaker 7: jersey on the ice at the sap Arena at the

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Speaker 7: Shark's Place where we were doing the shooting and riding

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Speaker 7: the zamboni. And then I said something along the lines of,

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Speaker 7: you know, I'm sure you missed me this whole week

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Speaker 7: that I'm on the road in San Francisco, so maybe

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Speaker 7: we can incorporate my jersey in some fashion. And I

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Speaker 7: kind of left it at that, And then I realized

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Speaker 7: that she was not the only one on that text,

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Speaker 7: and Mario helped me delete the message sponsible.

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Speaker 2: But your kids did see it.

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Speaker 7: It's quite possible they have not brought it up, either

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Speaker 7: out of embarrassment, shame.

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Speaker 8: Not put me on the spot.

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Speaker 7: Well, they're not bringing up they're just pretending they didn't

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Speaker 7: see it or maybe I deleted it in time when

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Speaker 7: they didn't get it.

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Speaker 2: Don't even Joe and Rachel. They were responsible for our sets,

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Speaker 2: you know, the look of the show when it's on

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Speaker 2: the road, they do a wonderful job. Again, shout out

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Speaker 2: to Rachel who is pregnant with twins. But they are

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Speaker 2: they're responsible for that. Look. All right, eight seven seven

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Speaker 2: three DP show. We'll talk to Chris Mannix about tanking

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Speaker 2: and the All Star Weekend. Chris and Syracuse joins us. Now,

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Speaker 2: Hi Chris, thanks for holding what's on your mind?

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Speaker 9: Hey?

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Speaker 10: Thanks Dan yea, I got a couple things for you.

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Speaker 10: You know, leading up to and before Super Bowl sixty

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Speaker 10: was even played, ESPN had constant self serving promotion to

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Speaker 10: Super Bowl sixty one. It was kind of embarrassing. And

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Speaker 10: a couple NBA items. I think James Jones may have

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Speaker 10: been a little light with the suspensions he handed out

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Speaker 10: for the Pistons, Hornets, Melee. I mean, you can't have

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Speaker 10: players throwing punches. I mean someone's going to get seriously hurt.

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Speaker 10: I mean just look at current Washington Rudy Key as

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Speaker 10: a prime example, and the NBA is really trying to

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Speaker 10: find ways to increase the interest in the All Star weekend.

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Speaker 10: But what they really should be worrying about is increasing

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Speaker 10: interest in the regular season. And I don't think the

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Speaker 10: NBA Cup is the answer. And another thing Adam Silver

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Speaker 10: should be worried about is Yannis being an investor and

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Speaker 10: public partner with a gambleet site. I mean the optics

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Speaker 10: on that look awful.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I saw that nut good. By the way,

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Speaker 2: I did see the ESPN promo the commercial for the

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Speaker 2: next Super Bowl, super Bowl sixty one got down. I'm

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Speaker 2: going to guess I'm going to find where the super

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Speaker 2: Bowl is at some point. I don't know if I

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Speaker 2: need a heads up now, where is it going to be?

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Speaker 2: Just for the record, ABC and ESPN, Yeah, Abc, and

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Speaker 2: it's ESPN though, But ABC, ABC and the ESPN. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: but I already saw it the commercial for the Super Bowl. Yes, Todd, so.

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Speaker 5: Kick off in three hundred and sixty one days.

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Speaker 8: Is that where we're at?

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Speaker 2: I want to make sure my math is right now.

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Speaker 2: Pregame starts and a few days. Josh and san Antonio, Hi, Josh,

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Speaker 2: Hey Dan.

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Speaker 9: As a longtime spirst fan, I just.

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Speaker 11: Want to call in, and even though it did work

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Speaker 11: for us and extended careers for the Big Three, especially

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Speaker 11: Tim from ninety nine to fourteen, for those championship years,

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Speaker 11: I want to solely take responsibility for load management in

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Speaker 11: the NBA. You can blame us, and you can blame

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Speaker 11: Greg Popovich in the first franchise. On a second note,

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Speaker 11: as men of culture usually do, I was scrolling through Facebook,

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Speaker 11: watching highlights like you do, and I came across an

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Speaker 11: old sports center commercial where stone cold Steve Austin is

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Speaker 11: sitting in the break room and you smack him in

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Speaker 11: the back with the steel chair twice. And I was curious,

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Speaker 11: if you could kind of take us behind the scenes.

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Speaker 11: How many times did you have to hit him? Were

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Speaker 11: you worried about how the force you have to use.

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Speaker 2: I'd love to hear your on that, all right, Josh, Yes,

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Speaker 2: you can go on the internet and you can see

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Speaker 2: that commercial. Where I'm at my desk, I get up,

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Speaker 2: it's late at night, and I go in and stone

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Speaker 2: cold Steve Austin is sitting in the break room and

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Speaker 2: he needs to pick me up, and he wants me

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Speaker 2: to grab a folding chair and smash him in the back,

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Speaker 2: and I thought, okay, like I like the premise of it.

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Speaker 2: But then he put a small pad in the middle

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Speaker 2: of his back and he said, just hit me right there.

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Speaker 2: And I said, I don't swing a metal chair very often. Here, Steve,

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Speaker 2: he goes, just hip me, you hit me right there.

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Speaker 2: I'm okay, well the first time I did it. Bang.

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Speaker 2: He goes, you gotta hit me harder than that. I

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Speaker 2: go okay. So then we do the commercial again. I

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Speaker 2: grabbed the chair and smack him. I'm going half speed

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Speaker 2: and he said, you gotta make it believable. I said, okay,

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Speaker 2: So I grabbed the share again three quarters and he

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Speaker 2: goes arder. I go, oh damn it, Okay, here you go.

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Speaker 2: And then I swung as hard as I could and

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Speaker 2: that there was a like a bulletin board there and

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Speaker 2: the papers were like flying, like because I created some

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Speaker 2: pretty good force there. Smacked him in right on that

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Speaker 2: pad and he goes, hey Dad, hey yeah. But you know,

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Speaker 12: I'd like to give you my idea about ending tanking

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I've tried. I've offered that up to the commissioner before, Xavier.

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Speaker 6: Just the last group of guys that you mentioned, those

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Speaker 2: Bow Okay, Yeah, I'm not saying they give up on him.

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Speaker 4: Care when people do that.

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Speaker 3: You just played right into that dude's hands somehow by

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Speaker 2: Podcasts Now, I'm being inundated with CJ. Stroudstats. Just to

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Speaker 2: that happens after Like the Patriots after next season will

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Speaker 2: probably extend Drake May. They would probably be happy to

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Speaker 2: Chris the you have an NBA whole question today?

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Speaker 3: We do, okay, In fact, we have would you rather

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Speaker 3: games for eleven years? Right now we're at about seventy

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Speaker 2: All right, what would you do Chris with We know

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Speaker 2: load management is here to stay. But if I can

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Speaker 16: Well, we're the sixty five game player. Does he get

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Speaker 16: I would much rather have the guy for four extra

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Speaker 16: the regular season is close to irrelevant when it comes

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Speaker 2: Yeah. How did we get to this point though?

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Speaker 5: The tanking point of where teams are just.

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Speaker 5: So I think, you know, the success of.

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Speaker 2: Who is going all in tanking where it's that it's

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Speaker 16: He had been playing through what was determined a mild

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Speaker 16: So the Jazz, because of the fact that they're playing

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Speaker 16: That is a five alarm fire for Adam Silver to address.

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Speaker 16: Well, let's unpack it from a couple of ways. Short term,

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Speaker 16: and you say, all right, seven hund and fifty thousand

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Speaker 5: You a couple of second round picks. If you do

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Speaker 16: This is something that's come up from a couple of executives, like,

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Speaker 16: We're gonna take away some of your ping pong ball combinations,

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Speaker 16: which is within the purview of Adam Silver to to do.

435
00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:03,840
Speaker 16: He can unilaterally do stuff like this, so short term,

436
00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:07,159
Speaker 16: they want to see him threaten a big stick to

437
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Speaker 16: some of these teams because there is twenty five plus

438
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Speaker 16: games left in the regular season. As far as fixing

439
00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:16,159
Speaker 16: the problem, there are two camps in this. One of

440
00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:19,000
Speaker 16: the camps says, let's just keep putting band aids on

441
00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:20,800
Speaker 16: these bullet holes. This is what they've done over the

442
00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:23,560
Speaker 16: last ten years. They have tweaked things, They've added the

443
00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:26,399
Speaker 16: play in tournament, they've flattened the odds, They've done things

444
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Speaker 16: to try to save the system.

445
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Speaker 5: And those people.

446
00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:32,760
Speaker 16: Say, hey, if you eliminate lottery protections, good luck getting.

447
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Speaker 5: That past the general managers.

448
00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:36,800
Speaker 16: But if you eliminate lottery protections, that's going to take

449
00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:39,119
Speaker 16: away a lot of these things. If you say a

450
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Speaker 16: team cannot draft from the top four for two consecutive years,

451
00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:44,280
Speaker 16: that's going to solve a lot of problems. There's some

452
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Speaker 16: people that believe that. There are others that say the

453
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Speaker 16: system is broken. It needs to be taken out into

454
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Speaker 16: the woodshed and shot, like, just blow up the whole

455
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Speaker 16: system and let's all get into a room this summer

456
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Speaker 16: and figure out something else. Those are the two camps

457
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Speaker 16: right now, and those are the two sides that are

458
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Speaker 16: you know, as we speak, lobbying Adam Silver about this

459
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Speaker 16: these changes.

460
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Speaker 2: But how do I know if somebody is tanking? How

461
00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:09,800
Speaker 2: do I know if Trey Young is not hurt? How

462
00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:12,639
Speaker 2: do I know you know Anthony Davis can't play the

463
00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:16,600
Speaker 2: rest of the season. I mean, what does Adam Silver

464
00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:19,040
Speaker 2: do how do you, you know, do something in a

465
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Speaker 2: clandestine way that you're healthy enough. We saw you doing

466
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Speaker 2: yard work here.

467
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Speaker 16: Well, I mean it doesn't take inspector gadget to see

468
00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:29,639
Speaker 16: like some of these guys are. Maybe Trey Young had

469
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Speaker 16: a quad strain in early January, like like Anthony Davis

470
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Speaker 16: fine gallstat de compo, if he decides to know the season,

471
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Speaker 16: I would say the same thing.

472
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Speaker 5: The Jazz again are playing their guys and look the Jazz.

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Speaker 16: One of the problems that people in the league have

474
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Speaker 16: with the Jazz is that right now they're a pretty

475
00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:50,440
Speaker 16: damn good team. Like they've got three guys that are

476
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Speaker 16: borderline all stars like Jared Jackson, Junior Lowry Marketing, Chiante George.

477
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Speaker 5: They're not all stars, but they're on that next tier.

478
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Speaker 16: Yes, So if these guys were all playing, could they

479
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Speaker 16: make a run at the playing tournament right now?

480
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Speaker 5: Probably not.

481
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Speaker 16: They're like nine games back of that that ten spot.

482
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Speaker 16: But the teams above them meant this, the Clippers, they're

483
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Speaker 16: not very good. You know, maybe maybe if you really

484
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Speaker 16: put your foot on the gas that you can go

485
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Speaker 16: and get it so that that's you have to almost

486
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Speaker 16: put that on a shelf. I think you've you've got

487
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Speaker 16: to use common sense in these situations. You've got to

488
00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:25,280
Speaker 16: make teams. If there are injuries, you've got to report it.

489
00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:28,080
Speaker 16: You've got to have medical evidence. You've got to give

490
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Speaker 16: the league a chance to review all of it before

491
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Speaker 16: so they can make an informed decision.

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Speaker 2: Talking to Chris Mannix, Sports Illustrated Senior writer and the

493
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Speaker 2: All Star Game coming up this weekend. Okay with the format,

494
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Speaker 2: even though we have some stars not playing. No, no, no,

495
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Speaker 2: this this this I I I don't like.

496
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Speaker 16: I don't like anything about this anything like I let's

497
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Speaker 16: start with the dunk contest, which you know again needs

498
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Speaker 16: to be destroyed.

499
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Speaker 2: Nobody cares about the dunk contest.

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Speaker 5: But nobody knows who these guys are. Like I mean,

501
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Speaker 5: I two of them.

502
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Speaker 16: I had to go look up, Like I isn't sure

503
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Speaker 16: who they were off the top of my head. Like this,

504
00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:07,040
Speaker 16: we have gone from being able to get Dominique Wilkins

505
00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:10,159
Speaker 16: and Michael Jordan to being able to get Blake Griffin

506
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Speaker 16: and a bunch of guys that were top Deer guys

507
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Speaker 16: to having guys like VJ. Edgecomb and Cooper Flag say

508
00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:17,399
Speaker 16: hell no, Like this is where we are. We can't

509
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Speaker 16: even get the top young guys in the league to

510
00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:22,240
Speaker 16: play it. I think that's gonna be pretty bad. Kevin

511
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Speaker 16: Durant said something last night, and he's dead on about this.

512
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Speaker 16: Like the the USA versus the World can work in

513
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Speaker 16: some context. It it could work in an Olympic setting

514
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Speaker 16: where there's a medal of the line. You're playing for

515
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Speaker 16: your country out there. But the greatest defenders of All

516
00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:42,280
Speaker 16: Star indifference are the Europeans like nikolei Okic. Can't get

517
00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:44,520
Speaker 16: him to care about an All Star Game. Luka Doncic

518
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Speaker 16: if he plays, can't get him to care about an

519
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Speaker 16: All Star Game. It is that alper Prince Sangoon, Al

520
00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:51,359
Speaker 16: Prince Singoon is not going to care about the outcome

521
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Speaker 16: of the All Star Game.

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Speaker 2: I think it's it is the outcome, Chris. It's the

523
00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:59,520
Speaker 2: style of play in the All Star Game. It's just

524
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Speaker 2: running up and down and dunkin and shooting threes. And

525
00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:06,119
Speaker 2: you know your kitchen, Luca, that that's not their style.

526
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Speaker 2: That's why they don't care. Nobody cared there about the

527
00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:14,040
Speaker 2: Olympics than those guys did. Joker did so. I think

528
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Speaker 2: if you attach an actual game to this instead of

529
00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:20,760
Speaker 2: just a pickup game. Those guys will care.

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Speaker 16: I don't think they'll care. I think you're still gonna

531
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Speaker 16: get them shooting like half court shots. And look, you're

532
00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:30,080
Speaker 16: never You're never gonna get like high and you're not

533
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Speaker 16: gonna get like early two thousands All Star We've all

534
00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:34,120
Speaker 16: seen the clips of those games in the early two thousands.

535
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Speaker 5: You're never gonna get that again.

536
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Speaker 16: The NBA is searching for a way to just get

537
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Speaker 16: something more than what they've gotten over the.

538
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Speaker 5: Last few years. I can't see how this is going

539
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Speaker 5: to be successful.

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Speaker 16: I mean, the one thing the NBA could have done

541
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Speaker 16: Dan that would have added a level of intrigue, and

542
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Speaker 16: they should have done this. And maybe there'll be an

543
00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:54,359
Speaker 16: opportunity in the next couple of days. I don't know

544
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Speaker 16: what Luca's situation is going to be. Put Dylan Brooks

545
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Speaker 16: on the All Star team. Put Dylan Brooks on the

546
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Speaker 16: World All Star team, Like you want to get people

547
00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:05,399
Speaker 16: to watch. How about you add a guy that's competitive

548
00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:07,879
Speaker 16: in like warm ups onto the All Star team. How

549
00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:11,000
Speaker 16: about you put a guy that has bad relationships with

550
00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:13,840
Speaker 16: like every star player in the league, including Lebron James,

551
00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:15,040
Speaker 16: on the All Star team.

552
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Speaker 5: You want to.

553
00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:19,560
Speaker 16: Get some intensity. Put Dylan Brooks on the World team.

554
00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:20,680
Speaker 16: I'm begging the NBA.

555
00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:22,760
Speaker 5: They passed on it with Kawhi and Leonard.

556
00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:26,119
Speaker 16: They blew an opportunity putting Shangoon on it over Dylan Brooks.

557
00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:28,520
Speaker 16: Make Dylan Brooks an All Star if you want to

558
00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:29,520
Speaker 16: make this game interesting.

559
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:31,840
Speaker 2: Nobody cares about Dylan Brooks.

560
00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:35,840
Speaker 5: But the way he'll play. You keep talking about the style.

561
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Speaker 16: I'm not saying they care. Do they care about Shangoon?

562
00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:40,600
Speaker 16: Do people really are they focused on the game for him?

563
00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:44,720
Speaker 16: So let's just add something that that maybe mixes it up.

564
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Speaker 5: A little bit.

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Speaker 16: Like I want to see Lebron and Dylan Brooks in

566
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:50,240
Speaker 16: the same locker room. I want to see them them,

567
00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:52,880
Speaker 16: you know, kind of going at each other during practices.

568
00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:55,080
Speaker 16: I want give me a little bit of spice to

569
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Speaker 16: this All Star game.

570
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Speaker 2: I have the betting lines here, so they expect a

571
00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:04,359
Speaker 2: competitive game. According to DraftKings, USA getting two and a

572
00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:08,240
Speaker 2: half against the World, that's the Stars team, and then

573
00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:10,919
Speaker 2: the Strip's getting one and a half against the World,

574
00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:14,679
Speaker 2: and then Stripes is favored over to the Stars so

575
00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:18,400
Speaker 2: by one and a half. So they're expecting a competitive game.

576
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:21,200
Speaker 2: Chris what's the.

577
00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:22,160
Speaker 5: Definition of insanity.

578
00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:25,919
Speaker 16: They're doing the same thing over again expecting the same result.

579
00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:26,919
Speaker 5: I just I don't see it.

580
00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:29,760
Speaker 16: I look at it could be interesting because of the format,

581
00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:33,520
Speaker 16: maybe you can get some guys to be more engaged,

582
00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:35,200
Speaker 16: but I don't think a format change is going to

583
00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:37,119
Speaker 16: do it. I just think there's nothing. We are on

584
00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:39,239
Speaker 16: the path to the Pro Bowl is what we're on

585
00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:41,040
Speaker 16: with the NBA All Star Game, and I don't think

586
00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:43,160
Speaker 16: there's anything that's going to stop it.

587
00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:45,280
Speaker 2: Is this Lebron's last season in LA?

588
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:51,800
Speaker 16: There's a good qualifier. Is it his last season in LA?

589
00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:57,120
Speaker 16: I'm going to say no. There are options out there

590
00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:00,000
Speaker 16: for Lebron James.

591
00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:02,200
Speaker 5: It's not just Cleveland, although that's obvious.

592
00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:05,680
Speaker 16: I think Golden State is another great opportunity if he

593
00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:07,840
Speaker 16: wants to, and that's another way to stay in California

594
00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:10,280
Speaker 16: as well. What we have to remember is that Lebron

595
00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:13,400
Speaker 16: James when he signed with the Lakers back in twenty eighteen,

596
00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:16,760
Speaker 16: it was about more than basketball. It was about lifestyle,

597
00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:20,000
Speaker 16: it was about business interest. I don't think a lot

598
00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:23,480
Speaker 16: of those things have necessarily changed. Now two of his

599
00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:26,600
Speaker 16: kids are off to are gone, Browny's playing with them,

600
00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:30,000
Speaker 16: You know, Bryce is in college, so that dynamic has

601
00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:30,920
Speaker 16: changed to a degree.

602
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Speaker 5: But I think that his desire to be in.

603
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Speaker 16: LA goes beyond basketball. Now, what will the Lakers be

604
00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:42,200
Speaker 16: prepared to offer him in the off season, I think

605
00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:45,280
Speaker 16: is going to be interesting. They are pretty committed to

606
00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:49,920
Speaker 16: rebuilding or retooling. I guess around Luca Austin Reeves, you know,

607
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:53,120
Speaker 16: a prototypical center that plays around those plays well with

608
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:55,560
Speaker 16: those type of guys. Will they be willing to make

609
00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:58,880
Speaker 16: him a competitive offer or is it just, hey, we

610
00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:01,400
Speaker 16: got the mid level except at twelve million dollars or

611
00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:04,120
Speaker 16: whatever may be, and we want you to stay that. That,

612
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:06,440
Speaker 16: to me is the big question. I do think there's

613
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Speaker 16: part of Lebron that wants to stay in LA, but

614
00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:11,560
Speaker 16: he's not going to stay.

615
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Speaker 5: I don't think if they they lowball.

616
00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:17,840
Speaker 2: Him, who is more likely to be playing their last

617
00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:21,880
Speaker 2: games with their respective team? Yanis with the Bucks or

618
00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:23,600
Speaker 2: Lebron with the Lakers.

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Speaker 5: I'm gonna say Gianis with the Bucks.

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Speaker 16: You know, Milwaukee, Look, did they entered these negotiations with

621
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Speaker 16: other teams in good faith? Like nobody really denies that,

622
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Speaker 16: Like there was some uncertainty about whether or not they'd

623
00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:40,920
Speaker 16: pulled the trigger on a deal, but over the in

624
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:43,840
Speaker 16: the week before the deadline, they were talking to teams

625
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Speaker 16: making counterproposals like.

626
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Speaker 5: That, they were engaged in all this.

627
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Speaker 16: There just wasn't a deal that made sense for them

628
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:54,640
Speaker 16: to pull the trigger right now, when the expectation is

629
00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:58,600
Speaker 16: more teams can get involved in June and the offers

630
00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:00,720
Speaker 16: from the current teams are going to be better. That

631
00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:03,720
Speaker 16: being said, from what I hear out in Milwaukee is like,

632
00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:06,160
Speaker 16: you know, they're not gonna spend the next few months

633
00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:08,440
Speaker 16: thinking about what offer they can get. They're gonna spend

634
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:10,920
Speaker 16: the next few months thinking about who they can get

635
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:13,120
Speaker 16: to bring in to convince Gianni's stay. Like they could

636
00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:16,120
Speaker 16: have I believe three first round picks the deal around

637
00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:18,960
Speaker 16: the June draft. They've still got some movable contracts. You

638
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:21,640
Speaker 16: don't know what's gonna shake out in the postseason. Who's

639
00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:24,520
Speaker 16: gonna wind up becoming available that you don't expect right now.

640
00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:27,960
Speaker 16: So option A for Milwaukee is still to find that player,

641
00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:30,959
Speaker 16: find that Drew Holliday, find that Damian Lillard, find that

642
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:33,120
Speaker 16: guy that can make Gianna say, you know what, I'm

643
00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:35,720
Speaker 16: gonna sign my name to an extension right now.

644
00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:37,479
Speaker 5: I don't think they're going to find it.

645
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:39,680
Speaker 16: That's why I think it's more likely Yiannis is gone

646
00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 16: at the end of the year in some kind a

647
00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:42,760
Speaker 16: blockbuster deal.

648
00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:44,479
Speaker 5: But that's gonna be the priority.

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00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:47,400
Speaker 16: I love Dan seeing see Cam Thomas last night by

650
00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:49,880
Speaker 16: going for thirty four and there's that clip of Yanni's

651
00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:51,920
Speaker 16: like big smile on his face coming off the bench.

652
00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:55,960
Speaker 16: If Cam Thomas winds up saving Jannis's future in Milwaukee,

653
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Speaker 16: that will be the greatest plot twist in NBA drama history.

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Speaker 2: Not good enough to play for the Nets, but good

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Speaker 2: enough to play for the bucks. Good thirty four? Yeah,

656
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Speaker 2: thank you, Chris, have fun this weekend. You got it.

657
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Speaker 2: That's Chris Mannock Sports Illustrated Senior NBA writer and he'll

658
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Speaker 2: be out there for the All Star festivities. We'll take

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Speaker 2: a break. More of your phone calls coming up. We're

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Speaker 2: back after this Dan Patrick show. Fox Sports Radio has

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Speaker 2: Hi Collins, what's on your mind?

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Speaker 9: Good morning Dan.

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Speaker 15: And the Dan Nets. Hey now, Hey, now, Chritsy Hey CJ. Stroud,

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Speaker 15: he's got the yips. If he comes back with the Texans,

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Speaker 15: it'll probably be able to nickel back aka Rick m keel.

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Speaker 15: Got a question for you, Yeah, which which NFL or

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Speaker 15: nil jersey would you like to have? Following the twenty

671
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Speaker 15: twenty five twenty twenty sixth season, Sam Donald had a

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Speaker 15: great chance to not necessarily a campaign, but had a

673
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Speaker 15: great sales pitch opportunity Week sixteen when Philip Rivers came

674
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Speaker 15: out of that tunnel as the you know, the comeback

675
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Speaker 15: player of the year. Sam Donald should have come out

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Speaker 15: with a jersey with a space between the darn and

677
00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:21,000
Speaker 15: the old, wore a darn old jersey and had a

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Speaker 15: legendary jersey exchange at midfield with Philip Rivers.

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Speaker 2: I thank you call it. It's a deep dive, yeh see.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we go back to the All Star Game again

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Speaker 3: real quick. Sure, I think that we're there's one part

682
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Speaker 3: of the Americans versus or you know, the United States

683
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Speaker 3: team versus the international players that I think we're missing

684
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Speaker 3: as to why the international players don't care about the

685
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Speaker 3: All Star Game. It's because All Star games are a

686
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Speaker 3: uniquely American experience. We're really the only people that do that.

687
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Speaker 3: And if you're coming from an international experience or background,

688
00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:00,959
Speaker 3: those teams would be like, why would we do an

689
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Speaker 3: exhibition game and risk our top talent getting hurt? Like

690
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Speaker 3: that doesn't make any sense. It's so stupid. We don't

691
00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:08,120
Speaker 3: do all star games. We might have all star selections,

692
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Speaker 3: but we don't do all star games. You want us

693
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Speaker 3: to play our best players in a meaningless exhibition game.

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Speaker 4: Why would we do that?

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Speaker 3: But here it's baked into like the fabric of our sports, like, ah,

696
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Speaker 3: who's going to be in the All Star Game? We

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Speaker 3: got to make the All Star Game mean something, and

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00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:23,799
Speaker 3: it really shouldn't. It really shouldn't mean anything. And I

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Speaker 3: think that that's sort of a there's a cultural difference

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Speaker 3: between those two things.

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Speaker 2: Well, I don't think it's fair for Kevin Durant to

702
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Speaker 2: question Joker and Luca and do they want to play hard?

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Speaker 2: I can't sit here and say, boy, those us All

704
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Speaker 2: Stars they play really hard. They don't. It's all kind

705
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Speaker 2: of fun and silly and shooting threes and dunking and

706
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Speaker 2: that's it. You know, you'll get an interesting, you know,

707
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Speaker 2: pick and roll combination that you wouldn't expect, but there's

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Speaker 2: no real drama with that.

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Speaker 16: No.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, that guy dove on the flour for

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Speaker 2: a loose ball. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: But the reason Kevin Duran is being asked that question

713
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Speaker 3: is because nobody wants what you just described. People don't

714
00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:10,360
Speaker 3: want the silly like throwing up through is maybe a

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Speaker 3: decent pick and roll, like whatever you like. No, you're

716
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Speaker 3: supposed to play hard. Why isn't anybody playing hard? And

717
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Speaker 3: Kevin Duran is like, what do you talk about? I

718
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:17,879
Speaker 3: want to play hard. These guys don't want to play hard.

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Speaker 3: They don't want to play hard in that format. Now

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Speaker 3: nobody should want to. Yeah, there's no reason for anybody

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Speaker 3: to actually want to play hard in that game. There's

722
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Speaker 3: no reason for the game really to exist.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's the only reason why they're trying to bring

724
00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:32,799
Speaker 2: the world against the United States, hoping that you get

725
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:35,880
Speaker 2: some kind of pride right that that would carry over.

726
00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:38,440
Speaker 2: But I don't tune in to go man, is he

727
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:42,200
Speaker 2: locking down such and such or he is lighting somebody up?

728
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Speaker 2: There's really all it is is you get to see them,

729
00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:49,320
Speaker 2: and you get to see some interesting matchups or combinations

730
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Speaker 2: that you wouldn't normally see. That's all, but I don't

731
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Speaker 2: know who won last year. I don't know who won

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Speaker 2: the year before, or the year before or the year before. Yes, Marvin,

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Speaker 2: your point.

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Speaker 6: I always disagree when you say the international guys are

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Speaker 6: going to play hard, so they're just gonna play for

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Speaker 6: the world against across their chest.

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Speaker 8: Like to me, it's not important to them.

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Speaker 6: Serbia is important to them, Canada is important to them,

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Speaker 6: but the world. Okay, we beat you guys in a

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Speaker 6: meaningless game.

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Speaker 2: This is a last ditched effort to try to bring

742
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Speaker 2: some eyeballs to this where you go, Boy, that was fun.

743
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:25,720
Speaker 2: I'm not saying it's going to work, but I'm saying

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00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:28,480
Speaker 2: this is the last opportunity to try to get something

745
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:34,000
Speaker 2: that does sort of resemble an actual game or the

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Speaker 2: spirit of a game.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, see right, And in a league that probably already

748
00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:40,160
Speaker 3: has too many games, we're trying to make a meaningless

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Speaker 3: one mean something. Yes, it's just it's a it's a

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Speaker 3: fool's errand yes, like it'll you can't. You can't, especially

751
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Speaker 3: now when you know, maybe back in the day when

752
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:50,600
Speaker 3: you got to see one game and you're like, dang,

753
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:52,799
Speaker 3: imagine if these guys all played against each other, that'd

754
00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:55,319
Speaker 3: be crazy. It was probably really special, but that's not

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00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:56,080
Speaker 3: the case anymore.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but you weren't facing each other as many times,

757
00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:01,360
Speaker 2: Like there's no novelty in any of these sports anymore,

758
00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:05,160
Speaker 2: because you know, Baseball, American League, National League, and there

759
00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:07,759
Speaker 2: was pride and they played hard in that game and

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Speaker 2: it mattered in that game.

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Speaker 4: Like I hate inter league play, Yeah, I do too,

762
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Speaker 4: I hate that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's what ruined you know, that feeling you

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Speaker 2: had in the Baseball All Star Game.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, Palling, I agree with everything you guys are saying,

766
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:22,040
Speaker 13: but it's what the NBA got because of this as

767
00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:24,680
Speaker 13: they the decades go. But then you compare it to

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Speaker 13: the four Nations NHL thing last year, where that was

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Speaker 13: compelling to people were in bars rooting on their thing,

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Speaker 13: and that's a sport that's way more physical and you know,

771
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Speaker 13: more chance of injury, I think. And you compare that

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Speaker 13: four Nations to an NBA All Star Game with this

773
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Speaker 13: one being international, I don't think it's gonna compact.

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Speaker 2: They dropped the gloves before one of the games. Yeah,

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00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:49,600
Speaker 2: I mean, that's how intense that was. But no, you're

776
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:51,440
Speaker 2: not going to get that with the World against the

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00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:53,759
Speaker 2: United States All of a sudden, they go out for

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00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:56,399
Speaker 2: the jump ball and then they drop the gloves. Well

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00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:58,360
Speaker 2: they don't have gloves on. That'd be wild if they

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00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:02,920
Speaker 2: had a gloves. Yeah, David Cincinnati, Hi Dave, what's on

781
00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:03,520
Speaker 2: your mind today?

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Speaker 9: Hey Dan, thanks for taking my call. Just a couple

783
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:10,239
Speaker 9: of things. First thing is you're really out a merchandise. Uh,

784
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Speaker 9: stay in your lane week if you're going to have

785
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:18,200
Speaker 9: all these guys on you this week. Secondly, with the

786
00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:20,759
Speaker 9: All Star Game, you're not gonna get these guys with

787
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:24,600
Speaker 9: you know, motivated by money or you know anything like that.

788
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:27,240
Speaker 9: I think maybe what you do is say the winning

789
00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:30,640
Speaker 9: team gets has to make the losing team where their

790
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:33,680
Speaker 9: signature shoes. All these guys get shoe deals, and if

791
00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:38,279
Speaker 9: contracts you know negate that, then maybe the guys that

792
00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:41,840
Speaker 9: you know Tina wins gets the doctor up the losing

793
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Speaker 9: team shoes with like door the explorer stickers or something

794
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:45,319
Speaker 9: like that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you can't force somebody to do that, you know,

796
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Speaker 2: medical issues there with your imagine if you got hurt

797
00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:54,919
Speaker 2: in somebody's shoes. No, No, I can't make you care

798
00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:58,640
Speaker 2: either do or you don't. It's just like you as

799
00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:00,560
Speaker 2: a fan, I can't make you care about the All

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00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:03,759
Speaker 2: Star weekend. There's nothing to care about. Yeah, well you know,

801
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:04,920
Speaker 2: I mean, like even.

802
00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:09,399
Speaker 3: What what West side roots harder for the East side

803
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:13,799
Speaker 3: of the country. Who There's nothing to care about. It's

804
00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:14,480
Speaker 3: an exhibition.

805
00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:19,000
Speaker 2: Well, let's see how it plays out. In fairness to

806
00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:21,040
Speaker 2: the format, Let's just see how it plays out.

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00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:22,719
Speaker 3: If it was a if it was the sort of

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00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:24,640
Speaker 3: like Paul was saying, the Four Nations and there was

809
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:27,400
Speaker 3: four nations playing against each other, that would be awesome.

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00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:30,600
Speaker 3: But it's us versus everybody else, and that's not awesome.

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Speaker 2: David in Ohio, Hi, David, Hey.

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00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:38,280
Speaker 17: Dan just had a quick comment from that Richard Chicago

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00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:41,480
Speaker 17: guy from the first hour. Yeah, I think he's I

814
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:45,759
Speaker 17: think he's just mad because survey says Dan Patrick, show

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Speaker 17: beats people name rich On family.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Thank you, David. Yeah, there won't be any

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00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:59,120
Speaker 2: rematch in family feud celebrity family feud. There won't. But

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00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:05,640
Speaker 2: because we wont that's it one and done, w n

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Speaker 2: and done.

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Speaker 6: Yes, Marvin, Well, what if we move up against like

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Speaker 6: Good Morning America or CBS This Morning.

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Speaker 8: No, you're done, yeah, John Caliperry want and done.

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Speaker 2: No, I'm good. I got more stressed out doing celebrity

824
00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:22,240
Speaker 2: family few than I ever thought that I would, because

825
00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:26,120
Speaker 2: I thought we could, we could really go viral here

826
00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:29,719
Speaker 2: in a bad way. You're nervous there, I was. I

827
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:35,040
Speaker 2: screwed up the rehearsal, I got yelled at. I mean,

828
00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:37,240
Speaker 2: that's not my lane.

829
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Speaker 4: So I was nervous as hell up there.

830
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Speaker 3: All of a sudden, we walked up on the stage

831
00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:43,440
Speaker 3: and I was like, oh crap, this is really happening.

832
00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:44,200
Speaker 2: What are we supposed to do?

833
00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:46,479
Speaker 3: We're just supposed to stand there, so instead, I don't

834
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:48,160
Speaker 3: know why. For summary, I was like, you know what,

835
00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:50,280
Speaker 3: I just need to start dancing. And I just started

836
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:52,160
Speaker 3: dancing and smiling the whole time. I was up there

837
00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:54,799
Speaker 3: until the camera started and then I stopped. But right

838
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:57,080
Speaker 3: up until that moment, I was dancing the whole time. Noah,

839
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Speaker 3: I'm not nervous.

840
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Speaker 2: Hell No. When I screwed up the rehearsal question and

841
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:07,000
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh my god, like we're gonna we're gonna

842
00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:10,640
Speaker 2: get boat raced here, dude, you good. No, I wasn't.

843
00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:14,839
Speaker 2: And I'm I'm trying to you know, I know it's

844
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:16,880
Speaker 2: coming back to me. And then I'm trying to nudge

845
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:19,239
Speaker 2: Marvin and say, you know you got anything for me?

846
00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:23,440
Speaker 2: And Marvin goes, yes, he had something for him. He

847
00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:25,040
Speaker 2: wasn't sharing it with me.

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Speaker 6: But I couldn't because look, they were on people.

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Speaker 2: I know, I know Eyesen Show. They would have been apoplectic.

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Speaker 2: They're cheating. They're cheating right there, final hour on this Thursday,

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Speaker 2: Dan and the Dan Nants. After this