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Speaker 1: nine for one Shawn our number. You want to be

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Speaker 1: a part of the program. Now we've discussed and by

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Speaker 1: the way, they they're about to light the Christmas tree,

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Speaker 1: the new Christmas Tree at the Fox News Channel. I

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Speaker 1: think it's gonna be bigger. And they call it Fox

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Speaker 1: Square and it's along sixth Avenue in New York City

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Speaker 1: see it. They make it a big deal about it.

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Speaker 1: I will not be there, but you know, for people

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Speaker 1: same time, one of the things that has been pretty

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Speaker 1: and that's what that's what's now missing from late night comics.

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Speaker 1: You know, Colbert's show was pretty much dead, gone and buried.

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Speaker 1: And then Donald Trump came on the scene and he

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Speaker 1: him and Kimmel and Ballance. They barely can reach two

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Speaker 1: from a comedian. And I think the comedian that steps

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Speaker 1: will be the one that breaks true. Now, it's interesting

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Speaker 1: on the Fox News channel because Gregg Gutfeld's late night show,

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Speaker 1: So Colbert last night, and Joe Conch had a really

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Speaker 1: interesting tweet over this. He said, overpaid predictable second place

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Speaker 1: Late night Comics self proclaimed the vout Christian celebrating arson

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Speaker 1: of a Christmas tree. That's what happened last night with Colbert.

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Speaker 1: The holiday season is in full swing already here in

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Speaker 1: New York. The Christmas lights are burning bright, especially avert

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Speaker 1: Foxing's headquarters. We're last night the Fox News Christmas tree

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Speaker 1: was set on fire. Now, I know what you're thinking,

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Speaker 1: but the ghost of Hugo Chavez has an alibi. Thankfully,

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Speaker 1: of toasted pine cones here. Take a look, crispy cringles.

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Speaker 1: Of course, this would never have happened if the tree

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Speaker 1: News tried to warn us this was coming. Every time

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Speaker 1: into flames. In New York. At midnight last night, the

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Speaker 1: Fox News Christmas tree was engulfed in flames. The fire

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Speaker 1: is believed to have started after Fox News's pants caught

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Speaker 1: judge Jannine pierro ate one too many rumballs and breathed

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Speaker 1: how this happened. I mean, it could be an accident,

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Speaker 1: source of material for late night comics. They never do it. Ever,

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Speaker 1: a night. These are broadcast channels. This was unheard of anyway.

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Speaker 1: to cause they've got their own problems. We could talk

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Speaker 1: That writes itself, Sean, I hate to tell you what

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Speaker 1: serious situation. Well it's serious enough that, in fact, it's

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Speaker 1: Roth than your calls. Eight hundred and nine for one,

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Speaker 1: I don't trust the police. I mean, it's just Nazis.

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Speaker 1: Then you had Black Lives Matter jump into the hoop

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Speaker 1: in the last twenty four hours they support the Jesse Smolette.

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Speaker 1: This guy is nothing more than a liar. And what's

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Speaker 1: going to happen is if the jury system work, vindication

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Speaker 1: will come about it. He would be found guilty. And

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Speaker 1: this is why this will serve as a deterrent to

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Speaker 1: the left. Well, they may not because they don't care

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Speaker 1: if the truth is always is in play. They don't

433
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Speaker 1: deal with the truth, They deal with lie. But this

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Speaker 1: will serve as a deterrent that you cannot go into

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Speaker 1: a courtroom and lie. And one final point, Seoan his

436
00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:36,320
Speaker 1: attorney should be up for some ethical charges because, let's

437
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Speaker 1: face it, he has a dude. They had an obligation

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Speaker 1: to make sure he didn't get up on that witness

439
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Speaker 1: stand and lie. And I think they knew. So you

440
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Speaker 1: got Joe Biden, you got Kamala Harris and her tweet

441
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Speaker 1: Jesse Smilette at Jesse Smilette is one of the kindest,

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Speaker 1: most gentle human beings. I know. I'm praying for his

443
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Speaker 1: quick recovery. This was an attempted modern day lynching. No

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Speaker 1: one should have to fear for their life because of

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Speaker 1: the second uality of the color of their skin. We

446
00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:06,919
Speaker 1: must confront this this case, Corey Booker, this vicious attack

447
00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:10,120
Speaker 1: on Jesse Smollette was an attempted modern day lynching. I'm

448
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Speaker 1: glad he's safe. To those in Congress who don't feel

449
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Speaker 1: the urgency to pass anti lynching, an anti lynching bill

450
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Speaker 1: designing lynching as a federal hate crime, I urge you

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Speaker 1: to pay attention and we can add Al Sharpton as

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Speaker 1: you mentioned, Black Lives Matter their comments this week, the

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Speaker 1: human rights campaign times up all these groups. You know,

454
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Speaker 1: this is the risk of everybody always rushing to judgment.

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Speaker 1: Greg Jarrett, Yeah, it is. And you know, people should

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Speaker 1: take the approach that you have consistently taken, Sean, and

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Speaker 1: that is, let's wait till we get more information before

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Speaker 1: we start a pining as to what happened. And you

459
00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:57,080
Speaker 1: are always quick to point out that people are presumed innocent,

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Speaker 1: that they you know, will have their day in court.

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Speaker 1: But politicians, especially in a racially inflamed case, you know,

462
00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:11,879
Speaker 1: love to pre judge and preordain the result, and of

463
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:15,440
Speaker 1: course they end up embarrassing themselves a lot of the time.

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Speaker 1: And this is you know, sort of a classic case

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Speaker 1: of it. Look, I mean this thing, this thing didn't

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Speaker 1: make sense from the beginning when smallatt said he was

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Speaker 1: attacked by by people who said, um, this is Maga country,

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Speaker 1: mcado magac. I mean that that didn't make sense out

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Speaker 1: at two in the morning to get a subway sandwich, uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, and and attacked by people he knew who

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Speaker 1: just happened to know it too in the morning would

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Speaker 1: be there. This thing never added up, and yet politicians,

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Speaker 1: you know, ignored all of that. I'm gonna let you both, Cob,

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Speaker 1: you'll both be joining me in Hannity tonight. Leo two points,

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Speaker 1: ll Greg, Jared, thank you. We have Dave in Wisconsin. Dave,

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Speaker 1: You're on the Sean Hannity Show. Is now everybody's making

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Speaker 1: their way back into the courtroom for the reading of

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Speaker 1: the verdict in the smaller case eight. What do you say, Dave?

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00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:16,760
Speaker 1: What's on your mind? Thanks for taking my call and thanks,

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Speaker 1: I thank you. If he has found if he has

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Speaker 1: found guilty, how would that not be considered a hate crime?

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Speaker 1: Since he made reference to Mega, you know, Caucasian people,

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Speaker 1: How does that not reverse racism? You know, you can

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Speaker 1: call it whatever you want if you look. I've often

485
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Speaker 1: said this, when people lie about other people, There's a

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Speaker 1: reason it made the top ten in terms of the

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Speaker 1: Ten Commandments not bearing false witness because it's so damaging

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Speaker 1: and I know people that this has happened to. It's horrible.

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Speaker 1: It's absolutely horrible if somebody does that. We'll find out

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Speaker 1: soon what the jury thinks in this case. Though, Big

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Speaker 1: time aide Jay Houston, Texas. What's going on, my friend,

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00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:09,080
Speaker 1: big time big town Sean. Hey, I want to wish

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Speaker 1: you a happy Thanksgiving, and I want to say, oh,

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Speaker 1: Merry Christmas to all the little kids and everybody at

495
00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:19,400
Speaker 1: the Sean handed the show. Hope y'all have a merry,

496
00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:24,360
Speaker 1: merry Christmas. Thanks I think I think big time AJ

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Speaker 1: is coming back to be Uh to join us for

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Speaker 1: a special program this year. That's what I think. Oh,

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00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:33,200
Speaker 1: that would be great, Sean, that would be great. That

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Speaker 1: give us a little shiny and shiny in New country.

501
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:38,720
Speaker 1: After all with Joe Biden into the crooks and died

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Speaker 1: in the country. But now to the idiot, he's guilty.

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00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:46,800
Speaker 1: I mean, Sean, all we did to make race relations

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Speaker 1: better until Obama got in there then messed it up,

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00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:53,160
Speaker 1: and then after that here come Biden messing it up

506
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:57,560
Speaker 1: worser and worser and worser. And now here this guy

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Speaker 1: gonna try to pull that crap. The Shan, we worked

508
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:03,600
Speaker 1: hard to try to make America what it is. And

509
00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:08,480
Speaker 1: we don't need no race, ain't we people? We God's people, man,

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Speaker 1: We don't need all that crap. That is a bunch

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Speaker 1: of boulogney. And he should be charged for what he did,

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Speaker 1: for false impersonation, that's what that is. And it's sickening

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Speaker 1: to wait you know to know that. Look, I thought

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Speaker 1: the evidence was pretty compelling, but I don't like to

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Speaker 1: predict what juries are going to do. I didn't like

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Speaker 1: to do it in the case of Written House. To me,

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Speaker 1: the case was overwhelming and incontrovertible. The jury took its time.

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Speaker 1: I thought the longer they were out the perhaps the

519
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Speaker 1: worst it was getting for Written House. But it was

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Speaker 1: by state law in Wisconsin, by definition self defense. All right,

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Speaker 1: big time, aj, I expect to speak to you soon.

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Speaker 1: Um listen. Let me warn my affiliates across the Sean

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Speaker 1: Hannity showed network that we are staying with our coverage.

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Speaker 1: We expected verdict to be read any set now in

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Speaker 1: the Jose Smileett hate hoax trial. We're gonna take calls.

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Speaker 1: In the meantime, we have Trishes in West Virginia. Eight

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Speaker 1: hundred and nine for one. Shaun is our number if

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Speaker 1: you want to weigh in. What's up, Trish? How are you?

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Speaker 1: I'm trying, Thank you, Thank you for taking my column.

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Speaker 1: I'll be quick as another gentleman that just stated what

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Speaker 1: I had called in to say, and that is this

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Speaker 1: should be charged as a hate crime. It is paid

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Speaker 1: against the rate. It is hate against the political group.

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Speaker 1: It's a hate crime, and I don't understand why it's

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Speaker 1: not being charged as such. Thank you so much for

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Speaker 1: talking to me, and have a wonderful day. You have

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00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:41,120
Speaker 1: a wonderful day yourself. Anyway, this is going to be interesting.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be very, very interesting because you know, there's

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00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:49,560
Speaker 1: a reason why we are always right. You know. How

540
00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:51,920
Speaker 1: is it that you know we saw what was coming

541
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Speaker 1: in the written House case? Right? I mean, it was

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00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:58,680
Speaker 1: obvious when you went through each individual case. You see

543
00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:01,840
Speaker 1: a kid running away from crowd, a mob that's chasing him.

544
00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:04,760
Speaker 1: They tackle him to the ground. A guy's about to

545
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Speaker 1: stomp his foot into his face into the pavement. That

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Speaker 1: self defense. You have a case of another guy that

547
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:18,920
Speaker 1: is admitting that he pointed a loaded gun at Rittenhouse's head.

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00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 1: That's self defense by anybody's definition. And then the case

549
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:26,520
Speaker 1: and it was on video of one guy with a

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Speaker 1: horrific history of atrocious behavior grabbing the rifle of Kyle Rittenhouse.

551
00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:39,959
Speaker 1: And still people think, you just don't know which way

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00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:41,840
Speaker 1: the verdict's going to come back, even though by the

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Speaker 1: very definition in the law in Wisconsin, it was crystal

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Speaker 1: clear that this was acting within the law, and it

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00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:54,560
Speaker 1: wasn't that hard to figure out, you know, I'm looking

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Speaker 1: at this timeline and then what the police have been

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00:32:57,280 --> 00:32:59,920
Speaker 1: able to pick up here? Police, you know, he tells

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Speaker 1: police he was attacked two am. Actor says the men

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Speaker 1: used racist, homophobic slurs, wrapped a rope around his neck,

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00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:11,800
Speaker 1: poured an unknown substance on him. And the two people

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Speaker 1: involved he claimed were white. As Leo pointed out, it

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Speaker 1: turns out that that was not the case. And then

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Speaker 1: we find out through you know, that he did a

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Speaker 1: dry run as they call it, caught on surveillance video.

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Speaker 1: Did they one day before the alleged hate crime attack?

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's pretty compelling evidence. And then of course

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Speaker 1: the text messages and private messaging between him and the

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Speaker 1: other two people involved that testified against him. Let's go

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Speaker 1: to Los Angeles. We expect this verdict to be read

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Speaker 1: any minute. How anyway, Will is in Los Angeles, KiB

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Speaker 1: what's up? Will? How are you hi? Afternoon? Yeah? I

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Speaker 1: wanted to point out something. I thought it was bleach

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Speaker 1: that was said that was thrown on him. And the

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Speaker 1: thing about bleach is that freezes at eighteen degree so

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Speaker 1: with the temperature at twenty below zero, what did they

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Speaker 1: throw on him? I don't remember the bleach allegation for

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Speaker 1: some reason. I just you know, remember this happened three

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Speaker 1: years ago, correct, Yeah, but there was a big deal

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Speaker 1: about it, and I looked it up. Bleach freezes at

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Speaker 1: eighteen degrees, So if they threw bleach on him, they

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Speaker 1: were throwing chunks of ice that would have cut him

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Speaker 1: up and beat him up like you'd been hit with

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Speaker 1: a hammer. I don't know that part of it, but

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Speaker 1: if you're right, then there's news and information I never

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Speaker 1: had before. I'll tell you that. Well, it just it

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Speaker 1: further that this is kind of a story. You know,

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Speaker 1: it should have started with once upon a time instead

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Speaker 1: of you know, for real. You know, Jesse Smilett said

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Speaker 1: under oh, there's no hoax. He said he was driving,

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Speaker 1: said he was smoking a blunt and texting with a

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Speaker 1: woman about an MSDNC appearance. Then he testified the attack

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Speaker 1: felt like looney Tunes when he was attacked. But then

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Speaker 1: you got the testimony pull your punches and other things

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Speaker 1: that were said. It's it's it's just going to be interesting.

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Speaker 1: And you know, I find the jury system, as imperfect

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Speaker 1: as it might be at times, we've learned that through

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Speaker 1: the Innocence Project, that you know, people that are innocent

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00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:23,920
Speaker 1: are proven innocent after they spend decades in jail. It's

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00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:28,560
Speaker 1: a great group. Harry Scheck founded this years ago. It's

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Speaker 1: changed my opinion on the death penalty considering so many

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Speaker 1: people because a new modern techniques with DNA evidence, they

602
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Speaker 1: can find out the truth and veracity of some of

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Speaker 1: the evidence. And they tested for DNA and they find, oops,

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Speaker 1: we made a mistake. But if it's on videotape, that

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Speaker 1: would be compelling enough for me. But we're gonna watch. Look,

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Speaker 1: there's a reason we've been right, and this is the lesson.

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Speaker 1: I always say that I learned in the Richard Jewel case,

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Speaker 1: and that is I was on the air the AJA

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Speaker 1: he comes out at Lanta Journal constitution fits the profile

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Speaker 1: of the lone bomber because he lives with his mother,

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Speaker 1: and I remember saying on air, well, just because he

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Speaker 1: lives with his mother doesn't make him a domestic terrorist.

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Speaker 1: I didn't know he was listening that day. I found

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Speaker 1: out later and I got one of the first interviews

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Speaker 1: with him, and that has served us well. With Ferguson,

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Speaker 1: we ended up being right because we had sources on

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Speaker 1: the ground that said there were numerous eyewitnesses that confirmed

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Speaker 1: the story of Officer Narren Wilson, that it was in

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Speaker 1: fact Michael Brown reaching into the car and trying to

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Speaker 1: grab the police officers gun. It was Michael Brown charging

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Speaker 1: the police officer. The same thing with Freddy Gray, Duke

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Speaker 1: Lacrosse UVA. How is it we always end up being

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Speaker 1: right because we don't rush to judgment and we do

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Speaker 1: our own fact checking, something the media and these idiot

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Speaker 1: politicians ought to start learning from. All Right, we'll take

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Speaker 1: a quick break, we'll come back, we'll continue. Oh wait,

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Speaker 1: we're almost at the end. We're at the end of

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Speaker 1: the show. I'm not going to get the verdict on

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Speaker 1: darn it. But what I'm hoping is is that we'll

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Speaker 1: happen for you tonight anyway, So tune in tonight. The

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Speaker 1: verdict has been reached in the Jesse Smillette hate hoax trial.

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Speaker 1: My guess is I think it's going to come back guilty,

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Speaker 1: but you never know. We'll have the answer tonight nineties

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Speaker 1: and set DVR Hannity on Fox. We'll see it. Then

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Speaker 1: back here tomorrow. We'll never forget you make this show

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Speaker 1: possible thanks for being with us,