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Speaker 2: Mets fans, Welcome back to another episode of the Mets

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Speaker 2: Up Podcast. We've got some more rumors to talk about,

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Speaker 2: because of course we do. It's the Mets off season

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Speaker 2: and David Stearns keeps everything tight to his chest, so.

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Speaker 1: We don't really know.

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Speaker 2: But we did get a little inkling of some news

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Speaker 2: that the Mets are one of the few teams that

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Speaker 2: I have met with for Imbra Valdez, which really works

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Speaker 2: with my theory that we're gonna sneak in at the

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Speaker 2: end and get this guy in February on a great deal.

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Speaker 2: Talk about Kyle Tucker, talk about Tots to you my too,

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Speaker 2: because we got some news there before. We do make

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Speaker 2: sure you guys are subscribed to Mets Up. We appreciate

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Speaker 2: your last episode before the New Year's Unless some major

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Speaker 2: news happens, which you could in the middle of the night,

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Speaker 2: we have no idea, but thank.

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Speaker 1: You guys so much.

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Speaker 2: Appreciate the subscribers, Appreciate the members, and appreciate all of

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Speaker 2: download and subscribe. James Marie Christmas, Welcome back. How we

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Speaker 2: feeling mery Christmas?

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Speaker 3: To you two and Mary Christmas. Everyone out there watching

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Speaker 3: and listening, love you guys. It's it's just so quiet

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Speaker 3: I feel like there's a handshake agreement between the players,

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Speaker 3: of like, we don't do anything Christmas week, but last

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Speaker 3: it's just it's like something has to drop in this

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Speaker 2: Well, I think a really good way to kind of

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Speaker 1: What was it. I don't know what the media outlet was.

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Speaker 3: I've got I've got the quote from the publication that

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Speaker 2: And apparently he doesn't have a contract offer for anybody

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Speaker 2: be a free agent deadline. This is exactly why major

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Speaker 2: League Baseball free agents don't have a free agent deadline.

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Speaker 2: The owners will just wait and wait and wait, and

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Speaker 2: the players lose all leverage. They won't make nearly as

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Speaker 2: Things have to happen, But for the players it's terrible.

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Speaker 2: And for Imai right now, who again we knew he was.

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Speaker 3: And I think that's also how you've gotten what we're

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Speaker 1: The jump the gun moves that we have made have

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Speaker 3: No, and you brought up Tucker, there's a different, I think,

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Speaker 3: that's a crazy tight rope game where it's a staring

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Speaker 3: But you als don't want to jump on Kya Tucky,

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Speaker 2: which still sounds insane. We're almost in the year twenty

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and there's like there is that idea of threatening

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Speaker 3: Scott Boris of all people were like, we actually don't

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Speaker 4: But it's ready to go, so.

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Speaker 3: If you just mess just sign Kyle Tucker's doing legitimate

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Speaker 3: to tell me from that from that quad, who's going

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Speaker 3: to be the most successful hit in twenty twenty six,

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Speaker 3: I think would definantly say Francisco Alphares.

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Speaker 2: I think, yeah, I mean he was. He was unbelievably

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Speaker 2: good down the stretch. I feel like people kind of

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Speaker 2: lost that because of how the season went.

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Speaker 1: But Francisco Alvarez was legitimate.

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Speaker 2: Once he came back up, he was exactly what we

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Speaker 2: thought he was gonna be, if not better. He was

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Speaker 2: so patient, he was hitting the ball hard, he was

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Speaker 2: doing everything.

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Speaker 1: I'd be curious if we could do a straw.

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Speaker 3: Paul maybe could do it that on YouTube channel because

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Speaker 3: I'm nervous to take any questions to Twitter now because

449
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Speaker 3: I don't really trust the elector down there anymore. But

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Speaker 3: if like, what's your perception of Francisco whal versus a

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Speaker 3: baseball player because last year he played a half a

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Speaker 3: season and it was worth almost two war Yeah, and

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Speaker 3: that was with fifty of those games, forty of those

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Speaker 3: games being basically unplayable with that stupid fucking batting stands change.

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Speaker 3: And then for the last twenty of those games he

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Speaker 3: played with a toWin linkm in his hand and a

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Speaker 3: broken finger. Yeah, he was still like he's He's still

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Speaker 3: played on a four win pace, which would have put

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Speaker 3: them in the upper tier of catchers in all baseball.

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Speaker 1: Like a top five catcher in the league.

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Speaker 3: And like you kind of have to if you're a

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Speaker 3: team like the Mets right now, you just don't know

463
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Speaker 3: where you're going to go, and you're being open minded

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Speaker 3: about the offseason. We know the way they're projecting these guys,

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Speaker 3: like right now, these analysts are doing things that we

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Speaker 3: can't even conceivee if you and I talking together, they

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Speaker 3: have a ninetieth and eightieth and seventieth. They've got the

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Speaker 3: percentile outcomes for every single guy, and I'm so curious

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Speaker 3: about what they're doing internally.

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Speaker 1: There is I think I sent it to a month ago,

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Speaker 1: two weeks ago.

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Speaker 3: Did you watch that analytics conference that David Sterns spoke

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Speaker 3: at last year, the MIT Analytics Conference.

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Speaker 1: I did not. I think it was an hour long.

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Speaker 1: I just could. It was a wild I could not

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Speaker 1: focus for that long.

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Speaker 3: I'd recommend anyone go look look for that because it

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Speaker 3: was like a fascinating look into what the Mets.

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Speaker 1: How he's thinking about the Mets. Who.

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Speaker 3: Daryl Moore was sitting on the panel too, and they

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Speaker 3: had a super interesting conversation about who was he like

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Speaker 3: the GM of was that the Sixers, Sixers, Rockets.

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Speaker 1: I think he still might be somewhere six Ers. I'm

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Speaker 1: not sure.

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Speaker 2: Weirdly, this is gonna be a weird one for you.

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Speaker 2: A shout out Bengal James knows him. I think Darryl

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Speaker 2: Moury like follows Bengal on social media. He's like one

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Speaker 2: of his twenty followers, which is.

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Speaker 1: Kind of funny.

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Speaker 3: Bengals a great analyst. But Daryl Moury basically asked David

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Speaker 3: Searns the middle of the question about evaluating, evaluating players

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Speaker 3: on your roster and like perceiving like what win's above

493
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Speaker 3: replacement war and how much money that's worth without the

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Speaker 3: salary cap and Sterns talking about the luxury attack, and

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Speaker 3: Sterns talked about scarcely at the roster, but there was

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Speaker 3: kind of a good bit of foreshadowing to some things

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Speaker 3: that have happened in this offseason about like allusions to

498
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Speaker 3: the the Andrew fried M quote about if your rational

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Speaker 3: for free, you're gonna fish their very free agent, but

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Speaker 3: that was about superstar free agents, not guys you consider

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Speaker 3: it to be in the middle, and if there's a

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Speaker 3: guy you can say in the middle, you should say rational,

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Speaker 3: just a guy you considered way above board, that's when

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Speaker 3: you start to be irrational. And that was a decision

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Speaker 3: that was made between Pilanzo and pont Solo, which is

506
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Speaker 3: again Messvang is still reeling over, but it's just it

507
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Speaker 3: was a fascinating, fascinating look into all of this and

508
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Speaker 3: about there was a I can't remember the comedy made

509
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Speaker 3: right now, but it was about like using your roster

510
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Speaker 3: spots in like the most conducive way to like building

511
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Speaker 3: the team the right way, and that's kind of how

512
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Speaker 3: I felt about the Brandimo Jeffcnil move.

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Speaker 1: Still but it still is about replacing them.

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Speaker 3: But part of the replacing those guys that we have

515
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Speaker 3: a massive stockpile of talent in the supper. Mosters like

516
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Speaker 3: the Mets right now, the perceptions they have one of

517
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Speaker 3: the five best farm systems in baseball with a ton

518
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Speaker 3: of that talent really pushed towards the upper levels. You

519
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Speaker 3: gotta give guys chances because they fail, and next guys

520
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Speaker 3: have to get chances. Like by the end of next season,

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Speaker 3: Ry Clifford needs a forty man roster spot. Chris ware

522
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Speaker 3: And needs a forty man roster spot. I think a

523
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Speaker 3: j Ewing the year after that needs a forty particob

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Speaker 3: Ryaneran needs a forty man roster spot.

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Speaker 4: Yet Williams needs a forty man roster spot.

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Speaker 3: Like it's aging the year after that twenty twenty seven,

527
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Speaker 3: but like it's it should to go off the pot

528
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Speaker 3: time for Viento's Maricio especially, and you got to see

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Speaker 3: baby up more.

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Speaker 1: Alvaz's steady when you too, Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Who you too? I think, I think, yeah, I think

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Speaker 4: that's certainly going the wrong direction.

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Speaker 3: But you you have to build this arm system and

534
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Speaker 3: you have to let this team be aligned with chances

535
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Speaker 3: to give those guys.

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Speaker 4: So I do think a lot more of these.

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Speaker 3: Guys are probably going to get chances than it might

538
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Speaker 3: seem right now, where if you think some Mets fans

539
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Speaker 3: want three or four free agents add to this core,

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Speaker 3: I'm not.

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Speaker 1: I'm just not sure if we see that this offseason.

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Speaker 2: Especially because we know that of the free agents available

543
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Speaker 2: to be added to this core, there's one, right, I mean,

544
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Speaker 2: there's one guy that you'd really want.

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Speaker 3: I I you could still definitely sway me for sure

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Speaker 3: on Cody Bellinger if it's a three year deal, I think.

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Speaker 4: Again before I think it's fair.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, his Marcus gotta be some This is the fourth

549
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Speaker 3: time is five offseason you could have Codey Bellinger, That's yeah.

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Speaker 1: It's insane.

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Speaker 3: So if someone's giving a monster contract, where the fuck

552
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Speaker 3: is that we're waiting for he gets older to do it?

553
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Speaker 1: Like, no way, it's not happening now. It would be

554
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Speaker 1: like Tucker.

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Speaker 2: Tucker's obviously one, then you'd be interested in like that

556
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Speaker 2: next year.

557
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Speaker 1: But like some of those guys don't even make sense

558
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Speaker 1: for the Mets.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I think au Heno swar is one of

560
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Speaker 3: the best fits on the market for the Mets.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and like he's we just don't tag him the

562
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Speaker 2: core because he's older and he's gonna be here short term.

563
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Speaker 2: But like, there's also an aspect two with this lineup

564
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Speaker 2: where I wonder if because Francisco Lindoor and Juan Soto

565
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Speaker 2: do such a good job at what they do at

566
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Speaker 2: the top of the order, you know those guys are

567
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Speaker 2: gonna be on base a ton, you know they're gonna

568
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Speaker 2: drive in their runs.

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Speaker 1: You know they're gonna be the producers.

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Speaker 2: That if they feel like they can get guys that

571
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Speaker 2: do these certain things behind them and can almost fake

572
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Speaker 2: fill in what happened for this team offensively.

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Speaker 3: But it's kind of like we said, with the way

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Speaker 3: this team's aligned right now, we're projected to have the

575
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Speaker 3: fourth best position player group in baseball. It does, it

576
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Speaker 3: doesn't feel that way, but I do think you afford

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Speaker 3: yourself those opportunities to build a team in more like

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Speaker 3: I'm just saying it's a lot creative and open mind

579
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Speaker 3: to ways this podcast, just because you have.

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Speaker 1: Two monsters who can lead the way, like Francisco Indoor.

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Speaker 3: Projections are still to be a four or five, like

582
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Speaker 3: a five win player, and the last two years three years,

583
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Speaker 3: he's worth six and a half, five and a half

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Speaker 3: and eight.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's unbelievable.

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Speaker 3: Like he's kind of right now doing the thing that

587
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Speaker 3: true superstars too, which is defy an aging curve, which

588
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Speaker 3: is carrying down the team.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, of course, yeah, yeah, no, of course, yeah, of

591
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Speaker 3: course that's happening. But it's the kind of thing that

592
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Speaker 3: you players do when they're like incredible special where you

593
00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:04,360
Speaker 3: can you can fight off Father time like not many

594
00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:06,360
Speaker 3: people in the world can ever fight off Father Time.

595
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Speaker 3: The fact that Francisco Lindor is doing that now while

596
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Speaker 3: he is clearly we see underlying he's losing some of

597
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Speaker 3: the physical abilities.

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Speaker 1: He's not swinging this fast, he's not hitting the balls hard.

599
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Speaker 3: But the fact he's still able to juice the same

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Speaker 3: amount of production the projection still think he's going to

601
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Speaker 3: get a very similar amount of production into what the

602
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Speaker 3: last four years he's been one of the five best

603
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Speaker 3: players in baseball based on his total value is amazing.

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Speaker 1: With him and Solo, it.

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Speaker 3: Just it gives you freedom to kind of take some

606
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Speaker 3: risks elsewhere because they're so certain. Yes, and the other

607
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Speaker 3: side of that coin is like these guys are that good,

608
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Speaker 3: maybe should pushing the chips super in because when you

609
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Speaker 3: have these guys, maybe should be trying to win a

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Speaker 3: World Series everything you're possible. It's not that we're not

611
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Speaker 3: trying to win a World Series, but it's just that

612
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Speaker 3: I don't know. It's it's ironically a transition time because

613
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Speaker 3: so many players are now off this roster, but it

614
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Speaker 3: really might not be a transition time.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's It's just it's weird.

616
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Speaker 2: And I think, just so you guys know, I think

617
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Speaker 2: me and James both want the Mets to go out

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Speaker 2: and get good players.

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Speaker 1: This is not badly. This is not us vouching.

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Speaker 2: Firs talking about Yle talk can remember all this This

621
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Speaker 2: is this is not us louching being like Dave trusted

622
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Speaker 2: David Searn's process. I'm not gonna tell you guys that

623
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Speaker 2: in this offseason there's no shot, but we're telling you

624
00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:10,920
Speaker 2: what is happening. And we think that this is what's happening.

625
00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:13,840
Speaker 2: And as much as we can scream and yell and

626
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Speaker 2: get mad, it doesn't do anything because our opinion doesn't matter.

627
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Speaker 1: So like, it's not fun.

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Speaker 2: That's not why people come to listen to baseball content

629
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Speaker 2: or watch baseball content. But the end of the day,

630
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Speaker 2: like the reason we're talking about this is the way

631
00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:28,720
Speaker 2: this Mets team seems like they're gonna be built. Is

632
00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:31,560
Speaker 2: because everything around us, all the signals kind of tell

633
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Speaker 2: us this is the outcome.

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Speaker 4: It's like, oh, like our grandfather used to say this.

635
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Speaker 3: I can't remember the same your great grandfather very well,

636
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Speaker 3: it was a hundred one.

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Speaker 1: Damn. I I had old ass grandparents. He's my confirmation sponsor.

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Speaker 3: What he believe was the lift while I was twenty

639
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Speaker 3: one years old, almost twenty two, my senior year of college.

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Speaker 4: He was the man.

641
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Speaker 2: I think my grandparents were like late seventies, like when

642
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Speaker 2: I was bored.

643
00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:55,680
Speaker 3: He but I can't remember the saying used to say,

644
00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:57,679
Speaker 3: but it was kind of something like, believe half of

645
00:23:57,960 --> 00:23:59,679
Speaker 3: what you see and none of what you hear. And

646
00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:01,280
Speaker 3: this it's with the Mets. It's like we could take

647
00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:03,360
Speaker 3: all the lip service from David Seins. You can read

648
00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:05,600
Speaker 3: every single tabloid doesn't know what the fuck they're talking

649
00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:09,040
Speaker 3: about right now, and it is intentionally spreading hateful things

650
00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:10,719
Speaker 3: that are trying to divide people and make people mad

651
00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:13,200
Speaker 3: because that's what pays their bills, because they're dying companies

652
00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:15,320
Speaker 3: and dying breeds. But you have to just watch what

653
00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:17,479
Speaker 3: the Mets have done this offseason. Yes, and that is

654
00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:21,080
Speaker 3: try to repurpose some of these roster spots, and in

655
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Speaker 3: their perceptions some of the players that we could have

656
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Speaker 3: thought were elite that we hold near and dear rewards.

657
00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:27,040
Speaker 3: We watched them play a lot of games. They just

658
00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:30,119
Speaker 3: didn't evaluate that way and that's it.

659
00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:31,439
Speaker 1: So they got all the lip service that we get.

660
00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:33,200
Speaker 3: Oh, you gotta replace these guys with this, gotta replace

661
00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:33,800
Speaker 3: these guys with that.

662
00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:34,959
Speaker 1: You have to break your silence.

663
00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:38,000
Speaker 2: This guy's the fun breaking crazy.

664
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Speaker 1: That was nuts. I think you're fucking close to the

665
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Speaker 1: god type of shit.

666
00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:44,080
Speaker 3: But it's just we're seeing what's been happening this offseason,

667
00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:46,159
Speaker 3: so you have to understand the world that we're now

668
00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:46,560
Speaker 3: living in.

669
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Speaker 1: Kind of play it off that should we should.

670
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Speaker 2: Be media marvel a little bit because I want to

671
00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:51,399
Speaker 2: talk about the breaking the silence.

672
00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:52,199
Speaker 4: Is the time is time to do.

673
00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:54,720
Speaker 1: How how many media marvels can we do here? I mean,

674
00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:58,600
Speaker 1: it has been the most toxic week in Mets Twitter

675
00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:01,360
Speaker 1: probably ever. P are embarrassing to be a Met fan

676
00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:01,639
Speaker 1: right now.

677
00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:04,120
Speaker 2: I have some of my like YouTube friends that are

678
00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:06,639
Speaker 2: not Mets fans that are just on Twitter being like

679
00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:09,840
Speaker 2: what is going on in the Mets world? Like everybody

680
00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:12,560
Speaker 2: is at each other's throats. It's it's ani mah, It's

681
00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:14,680
Speaker 2: it's bad. It's not a good look right now. It's

682
00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:17,959
Speaker 2: it's terrible. And a big part of it is fucking

683
00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:20,080
Speaker 2: Mike Puma in the New York Post just a New

684
00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:23,480
Speaker 2: York Post in general, the sports pope is making up

685
00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:24,600
Speaker 2: fake rumors.

686
00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:27,119
Speaker 1: From I trust me, I people that I trust. What

687
00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:28,800
Speaker 1: did he say, James, I think he said, I got.

688
00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:30,800
Speaker 3: I got the exact quote here because we're texting with

689
00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:32,320
Speaker 3: our our friend before I got.

690
00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:36,880
Speaker 2: But like, the entirety of all this is so crazy,

691
00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:40,080
Speaker 2: and for them, this is like they're rock hard seeing

692
00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:43,040
Speaker 2: all this because it's it's the chaos of the Mets offseason.

693
00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:46,520
Speaker 2: It's the perfect storm of beloved franchise guys leaving. They

694
00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:49,560
Speaker 2: brought in all these new guys that they are claiming

695
00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:50,920
Speaker 2: have these agendas, which.

696
00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:53,080
Speaker 1: Is so fucking crazy it's insane.

697
00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:57,760
Speaker 2: I don't even And then Mike Puma all time bad offseason,

698
00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:00,159
Speaker 2: he is going on, dude, he's on the met A

699
00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:02,280
Speaker 2: shit list. And you know what, have we ever told

700
00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:03,919
Speaker 2: the story about what he does every morning when he

701
00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:05,399
Speaker 2: goes to the fucking games on Sunday?

702
00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:07,119
Speaker 1: Because I'm mountain a mountainem James.

703
00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:08,840
Speaker 4: I think we mentioned it, but go for it.

704
00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:12,480
Speaker 2: Mike Puma every Sunday disgusting he did when we saw it,

705
00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:15,600
Speaker 2: absolutely disgusting. What we worked for the team on Sundays

706
00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:18,919
Speaker 2: ten o'clock. You could get into the fucking cafeteria to

707
00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:22,119
Speaker 2: get food as a reporter, as a writer, Mike Puma

708
00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:24,679
Speaker 2: runs to the mister Softy machine and just fills up

709
00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:25,840
Speaker 2: a fucking cup of ice cream.

710
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Speaker 1: Ten am God, damn it. I fucking hate him.

711
00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:32,560
Speaker 2: What he's doing this offseason is it's bad journalism.

712
00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:36,000
Speaker 1: This isn't journalism. Actually it's it's the opposite. It's yeah, no, no,

713
00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:38,120
Speaker 1: no disdain for the for the ice cream move. No

714
00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:39,240
Speaker 1: ice cream is great.

715
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Speaker 4: Whatever you do in the privacy of the cafe, you

716
00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:41,760
Speaker 4: can't do.

717
00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:45,200
Speaker 3: But the first thing that's started, like I'm generally chronologically here,

718
00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:50,920
Speaker 3: but during the Jorge Polanco pres opening introductory press conference,

719
00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:54,240
Speaker 3: he talked about like joining the Mets, and Mike Puma

720
00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:57,639
Speaker 3: asked a question about like coming to this team where

721
00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:00,600
Speaker 3: pilanz are just left. But he has just left, and

722
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:02,800
Speaker 3: someone's like, why are you asking this question? Like this

723
00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:04,440
Speaker 3: has nothing to do with him joining the team. He's

724
00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:05,600
Speaker 3: not in the front office. He has nothing to do

725
00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:07,240
Speaker 3: with it him. Mike Pumer responded to a good member

726
00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:10,920
Speaker 3: of the mess community, Jazz Ronald Jizzya Jashism, the only

727
00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:14,879
Speaker 3: persson had worse week than the message. Dump On Puma

728
00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:17,720
Speaker 3: replied to this fan, these press conferences are for me,

729
00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:23,040
Speaker 3: not for you, so tone deaf, Can you have some

730
00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:25,159
Speaker 3: some humility, Like you do a great service, You've been

731
00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:27,119
Speaker 3: doing it for a long time, and you're good at

732
00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:30,400
Speaker 3: what you do, was good at what he does, has moment. Yeah,

733
00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:33,919
Speaker 3: again objectively, but that's a crazy thing to say. You're

734
00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:38,119
Speaker 3: really putting a big dividing line between yourself and the

735
00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:40,080
Speaker 3: fans that you do serve in a way like we

736
00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:42,000
Speaker 3: rely on we relying the beat rise, we rely on

737
00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:43,639
Speaker 3: the journalists, We rely on the report that people in

738
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Speaker 3: the room, people get to ask questions face to face.

739
00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:48,359
Speaker 3: Hopefully that can we can get opportunity to do that

740
00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:50,199
Speaker 3: at some point in your future, crossing our fingers. But

741
00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:54,040
Speaker 3: it's just got we rely on you to do that.

742
00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:56,080
Speaker 3: So if you're not asking questions, but like the goodness

743
00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:58,520
Speaker 3: of everything involved, it's like we're not getting anything out

744
00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:00,720
Speaker 3: of it. But again that's not with your post wants

745
00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:01,679
Speaker 3: that we know, and.

746
00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:04,919
Speaker 2: Especially if it's not for us, then who are you

747
00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:07,679
Speaker 2: writing it for? Because the people reading and clicking your

748
00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:10,959
Speaker 2: articles is what keeps you employed. So if you're not

749
00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:13,520
Speaker 2: writing for the people to watch and see your stuff

750
00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:16,520
Speaker 2: and read it, you're just you're doing a bad job

751
00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:17,120
Speaker 2: on purpose.

752
00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:18,320
Speaker 1: If I was, if I was the head of the

753
00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:19,560
Speaker 1: New York Post, I'd be like, what do you mean?

754
00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:20,880
Speaker 1: This isn't for them? This is for them.

755
00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:23,639
Speaker 2: That's why you're asking these questions. Literally, that's exactly what

756
00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:23,919
Speaker 2: you're doing.

757
00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:26,320
Speaker 3: You're trying to You're trying to be an intermediary between

758
00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:28,080
Speaker 3: baseball players and baseball fans.

759
00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:30,120
Speaker 2: Because this is something that the average person will never

760
00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:30,880
Speaker 2: get in their life.

761
00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:32,000
Speaker 1: They have no access.

762
00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:34,400
Speaker 3: And he's like, this is the Mets have so many

763
00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:36,520
Speaker 3: of them, many more than most teams, triple probably with

764
00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:38,400
Speaker 3: other teams have, especially once that travel There are some

765
00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:41,400
Speaker 3: baseball teams now they'll barely even have traveling press anymore.

766
00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:43,720
Speaker 3: And we're blessed as Mets fans to have this much

767
00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:46,680
Speaker 3: insight into our players, our management or front office is amazing.

768
00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:48,760
Speaker 3: But it does seem like something has happened the last

769
00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:51,360
Speaker 3: two years, clearly with the way first to Steve Cohen

770
00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:54,240
Speaker 3: regime began, and now with David Stern's entering being tight,

771
00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:56,920
Speaker 3: not being leaky leaky fauces like they used to be,

772
00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:58,840
Speaker 3: where they've lost a good bit of access, where now

773
00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:02,680
Speaker 3: you have to resort to tabloid style tactics and you're not.

774
00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:06,960
Speaker 1: Doing journalism anymore. What you're doing is TMZ bullshit. It's

775
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:07,760
Speaker 1: a good term for it.

776
00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:11,480
Speaker 3: And then you start to get what's come in the

777
00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:14,680
Speaker 3: last few days where we've literally become like an embarrassing

778
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:18,520
Speaker 3: tabloid and you're doing this intentionally to incite negative emotions

779
00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:20,960
Speaker 3: from Mets fans because negative emotions are already in the pot.

780
00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:23,440
Speaker 3: And now it's not a tinfoil cap thing. But you know,

781
00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:25,680
Speaker 3: the post is expanding, right, No, I did not know

782
00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:26,800
Speaker 3: doing an LA post.

783
00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:27,000
Speaker 1: Now.

784
00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:30,000
Speaker 3: I do think they're trying to get some shit in

785
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:31,760
Speaker 3: the pod and they're trying to test some theories out.

786
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:34,400
Speaker 3: I think they're trying to go into these areas where

787
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:37,160
Speaker 3: politics are generally a certain way and then try to

788
00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:43,720
Speaker 3: infuse different, intentional, insightful viewpoints into them because they know

789
00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:46,479
Speaker 3: that's what clicks. People want you to be outraged, and

790
00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:48,160
Speaker 3: that's the goal of these places. So if you do what,

791
00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:50,240
Speaker 3: you play into their hands, and it's people are playing

792
00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:51,040
Speaker 3: into their hands.

793
00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:53,920
Speaker 2: So it's just it's so bad what's been going on.

794
00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:58,600
Speaker 2: And the fact that like somehow the Mets roster has

795
00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:03,640
Speaker 2: become a political statement apparently is insane. Again, no matter

796
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:06,680
Speaker 2: what side you land on, shouldn't matter what these players

797
00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:07,280
Speaker 2: think politically.

798
00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:09,280
Speaker 1: It should be not important.

799
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:12,440
Speaker 2: And if you think it's important, that's your own personal

800
00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:15,000
Speaker 2: choice too. But it's where it's gotten to of like

801
00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:18,960
Speaker 2: this like insane negativity and toxicity, and like you said,

802
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:22,040
Speaker 2: it's like it's it's embarrassing, it's so weird.

803
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:24,160
Speaker 3: It's a little bit frightening, like some of the things

804
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:26,200
Speaker 3: we're seeing on the internet liketurbing. It's the kind of

805
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:28,720
Speaker 3: thing where like I'm I'm like a little bit worried

806
00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:31,040
Speaker 3: for some people's like standings, their mental health, the people

807
00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:32,560
Speaker 3: that are close to them on a daily basis. And

808
00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:35,160
Speaker 3: something you just said doesn't matter what the players on

809
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:37,480
Speaker 3: the team think politically, it's nothing to do with us, right, No, No,

810
00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:38,560
Speaker 3: it matters a lot less.

811
00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:41,240
Speaker 2: What's that what the player's wife on the team could think?

812
00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:42,800
Speaker 2: Pay less.

813
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:45,239
Speaker 3: I can't think of something that has less of an

814
00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:47,800
Speaker 3: impact on my life than any of my favorite athletes

815
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:50,000
Speaker 3: spouses are doing with their free time.

816
00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:52,080
Speaker 1: It does not matter.

817
00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:55,200
Speaker 3: And anyone who thinks there's this grand plan involved, that's

818
00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:56,160
Speaker 3: like really sinister.

819
00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:58,400
Speaker 2: Just look in the mirror and have a conversation with

820
00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:00,520
Speaker 2: yourself about it because you have to talk to somebody.

821
00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:04,600
Speaker 2: Please get outside, come back to reality. Think think about baseball.

822
00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:06,800
Speaker 3: Think about think about the crisp grass, think about the

823
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:08,800
Speaker 3: smell of hot dogs and penas, think about think about

824
00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:09,800
Speaker 3: a ball shooting up the alley.

825
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:10,520
Speaker 1: That's what we're here for.

826
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:13,120
Speaker 3: If something that's happening out of the baseball field is

827
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:15,520
Speaker 3: impacting the way you love this sport, one, you probably

828
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:16,240
Speaker 3: love to begin with.

829
00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:18,440
Speaker 1: Two. Figure it out.

830
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:20,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you don't think that Francisco Lindoor became

831
00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:23,239
Speaker 2: a New York met back in twenties, back in the

832
00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:26,160
Speaker 2: early twenty twenties so that this grand plan could fall

833
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:26,600
Speaker 2: into place.

834
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:28,240
Speaker 1: I mean, what are you a sheep?

835
00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:30,240
Speaker 3: So if you thought guys that were teammates for years

836
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:31,800
Speaker 3: and years and years that all of a sudden, like

837
00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:35,320
Speaker 3: they had to go because of possibly some political affiliations

838
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:36,600
Speaker 3: like it's that you.

839
00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:39,400
Speaker 2: Would have known by the way the entire time. It's

840
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:42,520
Speaker 2: not like twenty twenty five was news about who these

841
00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:44,560
Speaker 2: guys would have supported politically.

842
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:47,040
Speaker 1: Pee Alonso is is a lib like he is a

843
00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:47,520
Speaker 1: big liberal.

844
00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:50,640
Speaker 3: Pe Lonzo spoke out glovingly about the Black Lives Matter

845
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:52,440
Speaker 3: movement and people in that it's like it's people just

846
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:54,760
Speaker 3: easily forget. And then also the part of this is

847
00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:57,200
Speaker 3: pissed me off. The most people talk about that Francisco

848
00:31:57,280 --> 00:31:58,600
Speaker 3: Door is not as good as baseball as we've seen

849
00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:00,120
Speaker 3: him being. This is one of the best players, the

850
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:01,720
Speaker 3: best players in baseball. He's one of the best players

851
00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:04,480
Speaker 3: ever won in mes Jersey. He's likely going into Cooperstown

852
00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:05,480
Speaker 3: as a New York med.

853
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:07,520
Speaker 1: So I either get on or get off, because it's like,

854
00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:08,360
Speaker 1: this is ridiculous.

855
00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:12,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, the fact that we're having the conversations somehow.

856
00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:16,960
Speaker 1: After three elite seasons, we're four four. You're right, four

857
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:17,600
Speaker 1: elite seasons.

858
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:20,800
Speaker 2: Forgot about twenty twenty five where Francisco Lindor has been

859
00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:23,160
Speaker 2: one of the two best shortstops on the planet and

860
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:24,880
Speaker 2: the one guy that's ahead of him is twenty three

861
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:28,160
Speaker 2: named Bobby Wood Junior, who's a physical specimen Frissicoll.

862
00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:30,240
Speaker 1: Lindor never had the raw abilities that Bobby Wood.

863
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:31,840
Speaker 2: Junior had and he's keeping pace with him and his

864
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:35,480
Speaker 2: physical prime is unbelievable. And then you bring up like

865
00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:38,240
Speaker 2: the clubhouse tensions and the Soto stuff and Lindor and

866
00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:41,440
Speaker 2: all the bullshit, and I go, So, the two guys

867
00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:44,000
Speaker 2: that are supposedly not friendly with each other having all

868
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:47,040
Speaker 2: these clubhouse problems, Lindor and Soto, Right, how did they

869
00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:48,000
Speaker 2: perform last year game?

870
00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:49,480
Speaker 1: Just real quick? For the people, I'd love to know

871
00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:52,680
Speaker 1: how it affected their game? Really well? Yeah, really so amazing.

872
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:55,480
Speaker 2: Well if it bothered other people in the clubhouse and

873
00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:58,040
Speaker 2: caused them to not play well, to be honest.

874
00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:00,719
Speaker 1: But bye, over get over it.

875
00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:04,040
Speaker 2: If these guys not being friends affects you as a

876
00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:07,240
Speaker 2: player to not play as well, you've you've got a

877
00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:08,040
Speaker 2: mental illness too.

878
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:09,080
Speaker 1: I don't know what's going on.

879
00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:12,239
Speaker 3: Imagine the upside they become good friends, I know, right

880
00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:14,520
Speaker 3: for ninety home runs.

881
00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:16,080
Speaker 1: This's gonna be the first one hundred and sixty too, Oh,

882
00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:17,400
Speaker 1: team apparently.

883
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:19,440
Speaker 2: Again, It's just it's it's gone so far to the point,

884
00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:21,800
Speaker 2: and then sometimes and you get again because this becomes

885
00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:24,040
Speaker 2: a side versus side thing and something else. I don't

886
00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:26,200
Speaker 2: really like is an over conversation where now people start

887
00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:28,560
Speaker 2: to vilify the other guys that were here that they're gone,

888
00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:30,920
Speaker 2: where it's like I still like Pilanzo a lot, I

889
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:33,240
Speaker 2: still like brand Nemo, still like Jeff McNeil, Like it's

890
00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:34,360
Speaker 2: still like Edwin Diaz.

891
00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:36,920
Speaker 3: And again, like it's it's not it's just it's action

892
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:39,120
Speaker 3: and reaction. It's just it's it's weird. It's that it's

893
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:40,960
Speaker 3: happening right now. I think it's just because this week

894
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:42,960
Speaker 3: nothing's going on. I think that the fact that Mets

895
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:45,160
Speaker 3: fans are on edge because there's no news, there's just

896
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:46,800
Speaker 3: nothing to this is like the week that gets lost

897
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:48,800
Speaker 3: in the space time continuum every year. I remember last

898
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:50,720
Speaker 3: year this week, I went on Twitter and said that

899
00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:52,480
Speaker 3: Chase that we shouldn't be a Hall of Famer, and

900
00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:55,720
Speaker 3: I got I got the massacred for days. Yeah, literally,

901
00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:57,800
Speaker 3: Phillies fans were mentioned. They still have not mentioned saying

902
00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:00,360
Speaker 3: horrible things about me my family. But it's just like

903
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:03,000
Speaker 3: this is people just really want to get mad in

904
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:05,360
Speaker 3: this j and Ags generation. It's just it's and the

905
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:07,200
Speaker 3: people want you to do that because then you click

906
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:08,680
Speaker 3: on their stuff more often. It's a click, it's a

907
00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:11,719
Speaker 3: clickbased environment. That's just that's what it is. It's really

908
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:12,440
Speaker 3: fucking stupid.

909
00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:14,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, I wish every didn't have to speak about it,

910
00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:17,080
Speaker 2: but it is the biggest pieces of news in the

911
00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:18,000
Speaker 2: Mets world right now?

912
00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:21,279
Speaker 1: Is this the biggest by far? Absolute fucking nonsense going on?

913
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:23,880
Speaker 1: And I do all you people listen to Mets up.

914
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:25,879
Speaker 2: I know ninety nine point nine percent of you are

915
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:28,279
Speaker 2: not a part of this and don't care and are

916
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:30,200
Speaker 2: on the right side of where we should all be,

917
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:31,880
Speaker 2: which is, how are the Met's gonna be on the

918
00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:33,799
Speaker 2: field next year? I want to see this team win

919
00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:35,640
Speaker 2: ninety games, make a run in the playoffs.

920
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:40,400
Speaker 3: Kyle Tucker, frambervote Tatsui am I what are the chances

921
00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:41,720
Speaker 3: one of them's a met?

922
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:42,640
Speaker 1: Uh?

923
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:46,000
Speaker 2: Thirty three percent, thirty three percent, one of them thirty

924
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:47,160
Speaker 2: three percent, one of them is met?

925
00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:49,920
Speaker 1: With the chances two of them's a met ten percent?

926
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:53,720
Speaker 1: Who's the most likely to be a Met? Framber?

927
00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:56,920
Speaker 3: Okay, I think I think he might still Really, I

928
00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 3: did my YouTube challenge to the video this weekend about

929
00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:01,840
Speaker 3: the best it's for the remaining free agents, and I

930
00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:04,160
Speaker 3: fitty my just because I can't get over the fact

931
00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:06,880
Speaker 3: that since Steve combalt. The Met's the only player we

932
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:08,560
Speaker 3: signed with the qualifying offer attach to them as one.

933
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:09,120
Speaker 4: So I can't.

934
00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:11,520
Speaker 3: I just I simply can't get past that. And I

935
00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:12,560
Speaker 3: think that that's.

936
00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:14,880
Speaker 1: Shocking that Billy Upper signed nobody to qualifying off right.

937
00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:16,480
Speaker 1: That must have been like a m's been a hard

938
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:17,439
Speaker 1: rule that was set for him.

939
00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:19,759
Speaker 2: Almost feels like it because that seems like something that

940
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:22,279
Speaker 2: Billy Eppler would like, just knowing how his brain worked,

941
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:24,239
Speaker 2: been like qualifying off Who cares, it's a pick he's

942
00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:25,320
Speaker 2: gonna play in six years.

943
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:27,520
Speaker 3: Billy Upler did do good work to set up the

944
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:29,160
Speaker 3: foundation of prospects that we have now.

945
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:30,400
Speaker 1: I will I solute Billy for that.

946
00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:31,480
Speaker 3: When there were a lot of things that happened in

947
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:33,040
Speaker 3: the middle, I didn't love that Billy Eupler did, but

948
00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:35,200
Speaker 3: there's that he definitely helped us do. So I think

949
00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:37,400
Speaker 3: I really think we're gonna try and swoop Onny May.

950
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:38,759
Speaker 3: And I think, especially if you can get him at

951
00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:40,600
Speaker 3: this point for like six four hundred and thirty, I

952
00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:41,919
Speaker 3: think that's suddenly an awesome deal.

953
00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:43,640
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess, I guess we'll see. So what's

954
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:44,919
Speaker 1: your confidence that on one guy?

955
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:47,839
Speaker 3: I think I'm like almost fifty percent on one guy, wow,

956
00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:49,839
Speaker 3: and then on two guys. On two guys, I think

957
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:52,080
Speaker 3: I'm on like on five percent.

958
00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:54,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't see that being likely, but all right,

959
00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:56,360
Speaker 2: I like that you're a little more positive than me

960
00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:56,719
Speaker 2: with that.

961
00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:57,920
Speaker 1: That's good. It's good change.

962
00:35:58,040 --> 00:35:59,759
Speaker 3: I think I think we're going to get something and

963
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:01,759
Speaker 3: every thing because even we missing all this, the fact

964
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:03,680
Speaker 3: that says you've call and went out and he maybe

965
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:05,600
Speaker 3: this also went to Steve Goone called New York Post

966
00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:07,280
Speaker 3: I think stupid. I think he was called the idiots.

967
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:08,600
Speaker 3: I think he called the people that weren't there.

968
00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:09,200
Speaker 1: Possibly.

969
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, So I think that might piss people off in

970
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:12,520
Speaker 3: that room as well, and that's why they're like, you

971
00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:13,719
Speaker 3: know what, we're gonna make your life for us.

972
00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:13,879
Speaker 4: Now.

973
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:16,440
Speaker 1: Guy David Surtas needs to break his silence. James, he

974
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:18,759
Speaker 1: owes to the Grinch. You know, he owes it to

975
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:20,120
Speaker 1: Mike Puma. Actually, my bad.

976
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:22,040
Speaker 3: I mean, Mike Woo doesn't owe it to us to

977
00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:23,240
Speaker 3: report what he's actually saying.

978
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:25,959
Speaker 2: It's not for us, James, for him. Don't don't forget that, guys.

979
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:28,400
Speaker 2: Anytime Mike Pum puts out an article, remember he doesn't

980
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:30,040
Speaker 2: want you to read it. It's just for him to

981
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:32,479
Speaker 2: write go into the Internet void. That's how we should

982
00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:33,799
Speaker 2: treat everything he does from now on.

983
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:35,879
Speaker 3: I checked for Frankie Pepper's just in case I feel

984
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:36,600
Speaker 3: like I need him right now.

985
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:38,200
Speaker 2: I know it'd be nice to get a little Frankie

986
00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:41,440
Speaker 2: Pepper's positivity in there, but alas we have none. That's

987
00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:44,520
Speaker 2: about forty minutes of the Mets. Somehow, some way, there

988
00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:46,399
Speaker 2: hasn't been anything that's gone on, and me and James

989
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:49,200
Speaker 2: ramble for forty fucking minutes because that's how we do it.

990
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:51,560
Speaker 2: Thank you guys for watching listening. Make sure you are

991
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:54,680
Speaker 2: subscribed to Mets Up. If you're listening to us Apple Podcasts, Spotify,

992
00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:57,480
Speaker 2: Google drops the rate and drops a review, Download and subscribe.

993
00:36:57,560 --> 00:36:58,880
Speaker 1: I want to give a shout out to the members too.

994
00:36:58,880 --> 00:36:59,160
Speaker 1: I'm gona.

995
00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:00,919
Speaker 2: I'm gonna look these up quick and just just read

996
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:02,919
Speaker 2: out the members' names. It's been a while since we've

997
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:05,080
Speaker 2: done it. James, tell people where they can find you

998
00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:05,520
Speaker 2: as well.

999
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:08,120
Speaker 1: Find me social media, Twitter, YouTube.

1000
00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:10,200
Speaker 3: James Ciano also want shout out my guy Jerry met

1001
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:11,680
Speaker 3: him on the L train Saturday night.

1002
00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:12,319
Speaker 4: We were ride.

1003
00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:14,600
Speaker 3: We rode like basically from Union Square all the way

1004
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:15,640
Speaker 3: to Brooklyn together.

1005
00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:16,360
Speaker 1: And the people.

1006
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:19,279
Speaker 3: James Ciano had good, good, like twenty minutes a dense

1007
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:19,759
Speaker 3: Mets talk.

1008
00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:20,360
Speaker 1: It was awesome.

1009
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:21,120
Speaker 4: Let me see, I.

1010
00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:23,120
Speaker 2: Can find all these members names. We actually, we've got

1011
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:25,360
Speaker 2: quite a bit. We're up to fifty nine total members.

1012
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:27,120
Speaker 2: I appreciate you guys. I'm just gonna read them out

1013
00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:28,960
Speaker 2: real quickly at the end here, because you guys deserve it.

1014
00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:30,000
Speaker 1: Shout out Old.

1015
00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:33,439
Speaker 2: Spicy sixty nine thirty one, Tucson twenty three, twenty four,

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Speaker 2: j M two seven one sixty five, Dylan eighty twenty,

1017
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Speaker 2: ed Flood five twenty Jamie Gongora forty five sixty nine

1018
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Speaker 2: Edward Flood x seven L. I think he might have

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Speaker 2: two accounts A legend CTB Video Productions, Dave Kaplowitz ten twenty,

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Speaker 2: Phil Mmano eight two nine eight two zero nine VFM VFM,

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Speaker 2: Johnny Quinn eight eight seven Jersey Mets fan, Luke Miller

1022
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Speaker 2: twenty nine, James Alba eight eight to two, Sky Cherney

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Speaker 2: seven six three eight j T. M Fever JT mcpheever,

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Speaker 2: I think that might be your name. Really cold take

1025
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Speaker 2: Alex Stein seventy five nine to one all the other

1026
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Speaker 2: Alex signs were taken. H Eli weind wind Helm three

1027
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Speaker 2: four four one, The Blind Beard fifty two zero six.

1028
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:24,520
Speaker 2: I'm gonna keep going James sam Grindberg eighteen ninety eight.

1029
00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:27,000
Speaker 1: Chris Scopo, Oh I know, Chris twenty one fifty five,

1030
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:27,880
Speaker 1: Who's good? Comedian?

1031
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:32,480
Speaker 2: Muted Growl RM thirty six thirty Andrew Claudio shadow to

1032
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Speaker 2: Andrew as well.

1033
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Speaker 1: Check out just Metts. If you guys haven't.

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Speaker 2: Bellario school at nixt Film School, Lucas MG Underscore seventeen

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Speaker 2: Cod Harvey Scholes, Robert kelowna legend. Guys knows more about

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Speaker 2: me than I know. Professor Yoshima Death Star, Chris Miguelgomes.

1039
00:38:57,320 --> 00:39:01,120
Speaker 2: We're getting there, The Mac Dodd, Max Ouer Back, Richard Way,

1040
00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:06,160
Speaker 2: Mister fifty seven, Turbo, Bobby Blair, Sir Lawrence T Steph Walker,

1041
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Speaker 2: Landon Tuckers, Xavier Gonzales, Hmmm, I beat Annie Bot Okay,

1042
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:15,239
Speaker 2: all right, cool Teddy though Gotto, I had to make

1043
00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:16,359
Speaker 2: sure that one was a bad hunter.

1044
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:17,719
Speaker 1: M Frankie Peppers.

1045
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:23,839
Speaker 2: Hey, shout out Graham Hixon, Ali Hockey, Zappi and Tom Kozlowski,

1046
00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:25,239
Speaker 2: the legend bartender and.

1047
00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:27,080
Speaker 1: Caesars Palace gave me free drinks when I was there.

1048
00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:31,520
Speaker 2: Shout out everybody. We appreciate all the members and I

1049
00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:32,520
Speaker 2: think that's it, right, James.

1050
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:34,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, thank you guys so much for everything.

1051
00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:34,439
Speaker 1: Again.

1052
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:37,600
Speaker 3: We're probably gonna do prospects later this week and if

1053
00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:39,040
Speaker 3: we don't talk to you till then, everyone, have a

1054
00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:39,759
Speaker 3: really happy new year.

1055
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:42,120
Speaker 4: Everyone. Make sure if you do have your lentils, good

1056
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:43,080
Speaker 4: for good luck in the new year.

1057
00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:45,239
Speaker 1: If you're looking for love, a great but under the table.

1058
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:46,920
Speaker 4: Great under the table, two big things to get in

1059
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:47,520
Speaker 4: this new year.

1060
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:49,799
Speaker 3: We want to love, we want luck, So shout you guys,

1061
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:51,520
Speaker 3: Thank you so much, See you next time.