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Speaker 1: Let's get the podcast started. It is week seventeen. You

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Speaker 1: do not have to adjust your calendar. It feels like

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Speaker 1: training camp was like five minutes ago. Kid, But there

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Speaker 1: are two games left in the NFL regular season. We're

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Speaker 1: down to the wire, the nitty gritty, the playoffs are

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Speaker 1: on the line. What else can you say? Let's get

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Speaker 1: hyped up. Come on, this is the Thursday Official Colts Podcast.

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Speaker 1: That's Casey Valier, that's Bill Brooks. I'm a flabbergasted Matt Taylor,

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Speaker 1: thanks for joining us here on YouTube and the Cold

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Speaker 1: Audio Network, wherever you download your podcast. We got a

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Speaker 1: big one today. We're talking about Colts and Raiders week seventeen,

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Speaker 1: and I feel like do we need to, like, go

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Speaker 1: all Michael Scott out there. Do we need to explain

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Speaker 1: to the audience, like we're Michael Scott how the playoffs work?

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Speaker 1: Because I look at this, I look at the standings

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Speaker 1: all day, every day, and I barely understand. Yeah, So

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Speaker 1: do we need to go through that?

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Speaker 3: I don't think so, because it's it.

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Speaker 4: We'd be here all day too, that's prob.

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Speaker 5: It actually hurts my brain.

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Speaker 1: Long story short, I was I was mentally prepared to

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Speaker 1: do it. But okay, if you guys don't want, yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's fine. Long story short, just keep on winnings. You

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Speaker 1: But the Colts have a better AFC record than those teams.

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Speaker 4: So Endoy last week didn't kill you because it was

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Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, you cannot keep on that mantra. You got

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Speaker 1: first of all, I got to double back to you.

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Speaker 1: Merry Christmas to you. I know you had a fantastic

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Speaker 1: Here the scoring, all right? The offensive scoring last week

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Speaker 3: They got a victory.

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Speaker 1: Raiders defense is on fire right now, held fourteen points

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Speaker 1: sacks for the Colts. They ranked fifth in the NFL

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Speaker 6: You know, going into this game, I would say that

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Speaker 6: So I'm gonna go feast. And you know Kansas City

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Speaker 6: So I'm gonna go feast.

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Speaker 1: All right, He's going feast.

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Speaker 2: What do you think?

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Speaker 4: This is one of those games for me, And I'm

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Speaker 4: feel like this is a DeForest Buckner type of game.

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Speaker 4: Buckner had multiple guys on him every single time the

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Speaker 4: ninety nine this weekend really make his presence felt. And

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna definitely go with Bill. I think the Colts

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 1: There's that's it really is, it real, really is, especially

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Speaker 1: was running game and you win the game.

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Speaker 4: So I'm with Bill, I think I think this weekend,

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Speaker 4: I think it bodes well for the Colts pass rush.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of the running game, the Colts running game struggled,

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Speaker 1: You know, good stuff right there. On the Colts running game,

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Speaker 3: So I would definitely go with what Bill say in

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Speaker 1: He had a premonition. He had a premonition. He said, guys,

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Speaker 1: There no but to drive it home. I mean again,

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Speaker 3: They push your friends at the bar with that.

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Speaker 1: Hey, that's not going to pick you up any bonus

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Speaker 1: Colts Safety and your number two he is number twenty

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Speaker 1: mister Rodney Thomas. Rodney, thanks for the time, Happy holidays.

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Speaker 2: To you man. How are you doing?

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Speaker 1: You appreciate you having me absolutely now. You're having a

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Speaker 1: got four passes defense. I think you're having a pretty

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Speaker 1: good season. I always am curious when I talk to

436
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Speaker 1: you guys. You're your players, You guys are your your

437
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Speaker 1: harshest critics. How do you think your season is going

438
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Speaker 1: to this point?

439
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Speaker 8: I know, like like you said, I have the stats

440
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Speaker 8: or whatever, but I feel like I can always do more.

441
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Speaker 2: I feel like I got more.

442
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Speaker 8: He's always just trying to improve upon the last game,

443
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Speaker 8: the last play, last season.

444
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Speaker 2: Is just always trying to get better.

445
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Speaker 1: Yeah, no doubt about that. And obviously I know the

446
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Speaker 1: setting in which you're going into these final two games

447
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Speaker 1: is a little bit uneven. You know, personally, it's always

448
00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:12,280
Speaker 1: tough to see, you know, a teammate, a friend go

449
00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:15,280
Speaker 1: out and Julian Blackman done for the rest of the

450
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Speaker 1: regular season with that shoulder injury. How tough was that

451
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Speaker 1: to see, just on a personal level, considering all the

452
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Speaker 1: work and all the fight that he had, you know,

453
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Speaker 1: put in this season to stay healthy, having a great year,

454
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Speaker 1: and then to see it, you know, come come up

455
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Speaker 1: short in terms of his availability the last two games.

456
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Speaker 1: How tough was that to see?

457
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Speaker 2: On your part?

458
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Speaker 8: No, definitely, like like I hated that for him, Like

459
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Speaker 8: I don't like seeing like anybody like get hurt.

460
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Speaker 2: And then like JB, like when.

461
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Speaker 8: We came in just from like day one, when I

462
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Speaker 8: came in, like we.

463
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Speaker 2: Was always like real close.

464
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Speaker 8: So he was always helping me out from jump and

465
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Speaker 8: stuff like that. Just seeing how he goes about his day,

466
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Speaker 8: like day to day, his work, his preparation, different things

467
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Speaker 8: like that.

468
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Speaker 2: I just know.

469
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Speaker 8: It just it just sucks to see like something like that.

470
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Speaker 8: But I know he put usself like in a good spot.

471
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Speaker 8: Hopefully he comes back healthy, he gets gets his body right,

472
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Speaker 8: and it comes back to just doing what you knows

473
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Speaker 8: how to do around kind.

474
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Speaker 5: Of pick it.

475
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Speaker 6: Backing off from Matt's question, what is the thing that

476
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Speaker 6: that the defense is going to miss by not having

477
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Speaker 6: Julian back there, especially you guys in the back end.

478
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Speaker 8: There, Uh, definitely just uh, his presence is communication, his work,

479
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Speaker 8: his work on the his work on the field, like

480
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Speaker 8: everything that you see on the tape, like it all

481
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Speaker 8: speaks to itself and like his day.

482
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Speaker 2: To day work, ethic and different things like that.

483
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Speaker 8: It's gonna be Uh, it's definitely gonna be missed. But

484
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Speaker 8: like I said, we all like we all prepare the

485
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Speaker 8: same way, we all try to hold ourselves like the

486
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Speaker 8: same standards. So when the next thing that comes in, like,

487
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Speaker 8: there's no drop off.

488
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Speaker 6: Now when you talk about communication, what are some of

489
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Speaker 6: the things that you mean you said communication back there

490
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Speaker 6: in the back end, as far as him communicating with

491
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Speaker 6: everyone to make sure they're in the right spot or

492
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Speaker 6: whatever they have to.

493
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Speaker 8: Just like like alignment, like any checks within, like any

494
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Speaker 8: checks within the call. Uh, trying to like be a

495
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Speaker 8: couple of plays ahead, couple steps ahead of what the offense

496
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Speaker 8: might do, just like everything, like top down.

497
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Speaker 2: He's a great communicator, Ronnie.

498
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Speaker 1: I mean it feels like you've been here for five

499
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Speaker 1: I mean because you've started a boatload of games. Like

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Speaker 1: I said, you've started twenty five games, but you're only

501
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Speaker 1: in your second year. Where do you think you've grown

502
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Speaker 1: the most from the end of last year to now

503
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Speaker 1: With all that experience under your belt, where do you

504
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Speaker 1: think you are as a player?

505
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Speaker 8: Just understanding like how the game's played and what it

506
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Speaker 8: takes to be great, what it takes to be elite,

507
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Speaker 8: just like just like like I said earlier, just always

508
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Speaker 8: trying to like I never satisfied with anything, I know,

509
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Speaker 8: I never got it. Just always trying to improve, build

510
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Speaker 8: upon just anything across the board, just tackling bond Air,

511
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Speaker 8: take it out their communication, being a couple of plays ahead,

512
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Speaker 8: like just getting everybody set up but just not knowing

513
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Speaker 8: my position, knowing like multiple positions, just everything like across

514
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Speaker 8: the board.

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Speaker 1: Yea, and also too, I mean, kind of to paraphrase

516
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Speaker 1: off of what you just said, also understanding what it

517
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Speaker 1: means to be a pro to I mean, do you

518
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Speaker 1: think you've you've found that balance of great play on

519
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Speaker 1: the field but also understanding what it means to be

520
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Speaker 1: a pro off the field and all that, but that

521
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Speaker 1: it takes to be great on game days with your

522
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Speaker 1: preparation you know, Sunday or I should say Monday through

523
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Speaker 1: Saturday to lead you into game day.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, definitely, I've been I've been lucky to come in

525
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Speaker 8: with with a bunch of great leaders in front of

526
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Speaker 8: me who played a lot of football, who played a

527
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Speaker 8: lot of I just had a lot of experience at

528
00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:18,719
Speaker 8: this level from this team, like other teams, coming in

529
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Speaker 8: and just seeing like the things that they do and

530
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Speaker 8: just trying to just trying to work it into my

531
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Speaker 8: own game and just trying to make it my own

532
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Speaker 8: help myself out.

533
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Speaker 5: You talk about some other leaders that you you know,

534
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Speaker 5: have on this team.

535
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Speaker 6: Now, two guys that were a late round draft pick

536
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Speaker 6: or undrafted free agents have been on this team as

537
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Speaker 6: far as.

538
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Speaker 5: Saya Franklin and Kenny Moore.

539
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Speaker 6: Yeah, two guys that I said, one late round draft pick,

540
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Speaker 6: one undrafted free agent coming in this team. You're a

541
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Speaker 6: late round draft pick. What have you taken from their

542
00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:48,280
Speaker 6: careers that you can apply to your game or just

543
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Speaker 6: just look at yourself and say, Okay, this is the

544
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Speaker 6: type of person I want to be for my career.

545
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Speaker 8: Definitely, just just very simply, they just they take every

546
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Speaker 8: every snap, like every play every day as if it

547
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Speaker 8: could be their last. You never know, like when your

548
00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:02,320
Speaker 8: last play is gonna be, when your last NAP's going

549
00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:05,200
Speaker 8: to be. So they put their full attention, to detail,

550
00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:07,520
Speaker 8: their full effort into everything they do day to day,

551
00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:10,040
Speaker 8: and it has been just shown throughout like their play

552
00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:14,520
Speaker 8: throughout their career. They've had long, successful careers and many

553
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Speaker 8: more careers or many more successful like different things like

554
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Speaker 8: in front of them as well.

555
00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:22,040
Speaker 1: It's Rodney Thomas with US cold safety. So Julian Blackman

556
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Speaker 1: unfortunately out for the remainder of the rest of the

557
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Speaker 1: regular season. Like we talked about fickle league, next man up,

558
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Speaker 1: but the beat goes on. That next man up is

559
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Speaker 1: Nick Cross, a fellow second year player just like yourself.

560
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Speaker 1: What do you what have you seen from him that

561
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Speaker 1: tells you he's ready to go. He's ready for this

562
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Speaker 1: opportunity for him for more playing time.

563
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Speaker 8: No, definitely, Nick, nothing but nothing but growth, nothing but

564
00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:47,040
Speaker 8: just trending up and like everything that he's been doing,

565
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Speaker 8: like since he got here's communication is play, weight room,

566
00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:53,240
Speaker 8: just any like just football player and just being a

567
00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:55,679
Speaker 8: pro and general like it's been nothing but on the

568
00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:59,359
Speaker 8: up end since since he's came here and we knew

569
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Speaker 8: high drop picks, like his play like was never a question,

570
00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:04,600
Speaker 8: like we know he can play. So uh, I'm real

571
00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:05,879
Speaker 8: excited to see like how he does and now he

572
00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:06,880
Speaker 8: gets out there gonna.

573
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Speaker 1: Be How do you think you guys compliment one another

574
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Speaker 1: when we came we came in uh since like freshman

575
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Speaker 1: or I said freshman.

576
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Speaker 2: But like said rookie year. Uh.

577
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Speaker 8: Like we were always like rooming together and living together

578
00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:19,679
Speaker 8: different things like that, like through camp and then like

579
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Speaker 8: during like throughout the season, like we had like roommates

580
00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:24,040
Speaker 8: and stuff. Uh, and that he was my roommate. So

581
00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:26,520
Speaker 8: always just talking and communicatings like we're on the same page,

582
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Speaker 8: like we got like we get along like pretty good.

583
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Speaker 8: So like we know, like with the other ones, like

584
00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:32,119
Speaker 8: thinking different things like that. So it was good to

585
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Speaker 8: have someone like that on the back end. You can

586
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Speaker 8: communicate good.

587
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Speaker 1: With how's he is a roommate?

588
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Speaker 2: It was good? Yeah, good, yeah, pick up?

589
00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:40,280
Speaker 1: Is he maybe chip in for some snacks or something

590
00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:42,879
Speaker 1: where like like training camp or something like that.

591
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Speaker 8: Yeah, rookies we all had to buy take turns, like snacks,

592
00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:46,800
Speaker 8: different things like that.

593
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Speaker 2: So it was just rotating past.

594
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Speaker 3: No I know.

595
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Speaker 6: Now going to the last two weeks of regular season,

596
00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:56,880
Speaker 6: big games coming up, what's the mindset of the locker

597
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Speaker 6: room mindset if you guys going into this week game

598
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Speaker 6: and for the rest of the season.

599
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Speaker 8: Definitely just taking it one week at a time, just

600
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Speaker 8: trying to go one to know this week, just doing

601
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Speaker 8: what we gotta do body wise, preparation wise, and like

602
00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:11,080
Speaker 8: I said, just taking it one play at a time.

603
00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:12,680
Speaker 8: On's not at a time, one series at a time,

604
00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:14,399
Speaker 8: just just trying to get it done, go want to

605
00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:16,040
Speaker 8: know this week and then come back out of the

606
00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:17,240
Speaker 8: next week, repeat the process.

607
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Speaker 6: You talk about one to know this week and that's

608
00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:21,080
Speaker 6: against the Las Vegas Raiders. Yeah, what have you seen

609
00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:25,760
Speaker 6: from this off this radus offense that can cause some problems.

610
00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:26,320
Speaker 2: Definitely.

611
00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:29,080
Speaker 8: They got weapons all across the board. Good receiving cord

612
00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:32,359
Speaker 8: of you're running back, good quarterback, trust his receivers, puts

613
00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:35,000
Speaker 8: the ball out or trust his receivers trying to get

614
00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:37,000
Speaker 8: them the ball, different things like that, checkdowns, whatever it

615
00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:37,280
Speaker 8: may be.

616
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Speaker 2: Shots outside.

617
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Speaker 8: So it's gonna be a good, good, good offense to

618
00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:42,040
Speaker 8: go to and a good challenge for us.

619
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Speaker 2: And just excited to go out there and just try

620
00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:44,800
Speaker 2: to make some places and.

621
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Speaker 1: Going along with that. I mean, Bill, what a major

622
00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:51,240
Speaker 1: opportunity for this young secondary to make a statement and

623
00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:54,400
Speaker 1: to build off of one another and grow with each

624
00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:57,840
Speaker 1: other out there. You've got yourself, Nick Cross. You guys

625
00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:00,560
Speaker 1: are second year players and you have Juju, you Brents,

626
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:04,120
Speaker 1: Jalen Jones as starters. Those guys are rookies. I mean,

627
00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:07,120
Speaker 1: what's the what's the ceiling in the room for growth

628
00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:10,120
Speaker 1: with this young secondary as you guys have a chance

629
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Speaker 1: to really play a lot together and again build off

630
00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:13,640
Speaker 1: of one another, Like.

631
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Speaker 8: You said, like the ceilings like super high. We came

632
00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:19,560
Speaker 8: in and all of us have been fortunate to just

633
00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:21,520
Speaker 8: be in the mix and get some burn and like

634
00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:23,360
Speaker 8: get some playtime like on the field. So we really

635
00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:26,520
Speaker 8: getting like the experience early, like taking like those hits early,

636
00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:29,680
Speaker 8: and like seeing really like what it takes, like I said,

637
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:32,399
Speaker 8: at an early age, early on in our careers. So

638
00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:34,919
Speaker 8: it just helps us able to just come back like

639
00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:37,119
Speaker 8: even like the next play or like the next series,

640
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:38,720
Speaker 8: next game, and just be able to build upon that

641
00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:41,800
Speaker 8: and develop that further, whereas you may not have get

642
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:43,800
Speaker 8: that chance if you play like later down the line.

643
00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:46,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, and to wrap up, Bill, I don't think it's

644
00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:49,400
Speaker 1: a coincident. Instead of guy that's a seventh round draft

645
00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:52,800
Speaker 1: pick out of Yale comes in right away and basically

646
00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:55,119
Speaker 1: by what week three, week four last year of your

647
00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:58,480
Speaker 1: rookie season, you're the starter. And the reason is because

648
00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:00,800
Speaker 1: you've got to be a player, which you are, but

649
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:03,679
Speaker 1: you also have to be incredibly smart and intelligent, and

650
00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:06,159
Speaker 1: you have to have that level of trust from the

651
00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:09,119
Speaker 1: defensive coaches to put you out there. And that's no

652
00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:11,760
Speaker 1: surprise coming from the IVY League. You're talking to two

653
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:16,320
Speaker 1: dummies compared to your education there, mister Rodney Thomas, you

654
00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:20,480
Speaker 1: had six years of Yale education. Uh in college. I

655
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:22,560
Speaker 1: mean I don't I don't mean to make you feel uncomfortable,

656
00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:24,399
Speaker 1: but like how smart, are you?

657
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Speaker 8: I mean I only had it was it was it was.

658
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Speaker 8: It was a four and a half. Only four and

659
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Speaker 8: a half we had with the COVID years did to

660
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Speaker 8: take a semester off?

661
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Speaker 2: Yeah, basically like four and a half.

662
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Speaker 1: And what would you be doing if you weren't playing

663
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Speaker 1: in the NFL here, I don't have a clue.

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Speaker 8: We got uh we we have a major play with science.

665
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Speaker 8: We had a bunch of guys like take their route

666
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Speaker 8: and then branched off into like a bunch of like

667
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Speaker 8: different fields.

668
00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:48,600
Speaker 2: So yeah, I got I had options open. So I'll

669
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Speaker 2: just look and see what I like to do.

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Speaker 6: For office or anything like that. No, not right now,

671
00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:57,680
Speaker 6: not right now.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the mayor, you'd be fixed all the potholes around town.

673
00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:03,880
Speaker 1: You'd be getting something done. That'd be your platform. I'd

674
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Speaker 1: vote for you.

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Speaker 2: Right there.

676
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Speaker 1: That's Rodney Thomas. He was the first Yale player drafted

677
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Speaker 1: in the NFL in twenty twenty two. You were the

678
00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:14,200
Speaker 1: first Yale player drafted since twenty eighteen. And so you

679
00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:16,920
Speaker 1: are the mayor of that secondary and you're hawking down

680
00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:18,800
Speaker 1: some balls, trying to get some more picks. He already

681
00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:20,760
Speaker 1: has two of them on the year. Looking for some

682
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Speaker 1: more here in these final two games of the regular season.

683
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Speaker 1: Rodney Thomas again. Happy new year coming up, and let's

684
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Speaker 1: get some more wins here in the final two for

685
00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:33,360
Speaker 1: sure again Rodney Thomas, the pride of Yale in year

686
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Speaker 1: number two, a stud in, a mainstay in that secondary

687
00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:39,840
Speaker 1: here for the Colts, playing safety, and I really appreciate

688
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Speaker 1: his time. Earlier today on the Official Colts Podcast, were

689
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Speaker 1: brought to you by whin Las Vegas. Bill Brooks is

690
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:48,280
Speaker 1: back Casey Valier as well. I'm Matt Taylor. We're closing

691
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Speaker 1: it out. But before we get on or move on

692
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Speaker 1: to our last portion here, Bill, I do want to

693
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Speaker 1: spend some time just magnifying the loss of Julian Blackman.

694
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Speaker 1: I mean, you talk about a guy that only missed

695
00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:01,600
Speaker 1: two snaps to this point in the season before that

696
00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:04,960
Speaker 1: shoulder injury, led the team and picks with four, he

697
00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:07,040
Speaker 1: was third on the team in tackles and oh, by

698
00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:09,240
Speaker 1: the way, the unfortunate thing for him, he's heading into

699
00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:11,120
Speaker 1: a contract here, He's going to be a free agent

700
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:14,600
Speaker 1: this upcoming spring. So how big of a loss is

701
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:16,960
Speaker 1: this for the Colts. I know it's always next man up,

702
00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:19,760
Speaker 1: but Julian Blackman is just he's a special guy and

703
00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:20,960
Speaker 1: a special player for this team.

704
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Speaker 6: He is and someone that's been, like you said, been

705
00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:26,880
Speaker 6: very dependable the season, being out there playing making some

706
00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:27,560
Speaker 6: big plays.

707
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Speaker 5: And to me, it's not just also.

708
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Speaker 6: The stats that he has out there, it's being out

709
00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:35,760
Speaker 6: there communicating with everyone, helping get people in the right spots,

710
00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:39,800
Speaker 6: telling people what's going on, different formations, different motions, things

711
00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:42,480
Speaker 6: like that, taking control of what's going on back through

712
00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:44,720
Speaker 6: in the back, and that's a huge thing in the

713
00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:47,760
Speaker 6: secondary for those guys to communicate with one another, so

714
00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:50,280
Speaker 6: everyone's hopefully on the same page and in the right

715
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:52,160
Speaker 6: spot they need to be. So I think they're going

716
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Speaker 6: to miss in that aspect. Now Nick Crosskin there, I

717
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Speaker 6: believe he'll do a fine job, but missing Julian's communication,

718
00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:04,520
Speaker 6: his presence, his veteran leadership back there, Yeah, I think

719
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Speaker 6: that's gonna be something that they miss.

720
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Speaker 4: That's one of the things I think we talked about

721
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:10,200
Speaker 4: before the season when we looked at the youth in

722
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Speaker 4: the secondary with guys like Juju, Brent's, Jalen Jones, and

723
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Speaker 4: ultimately it was like, well, you've got some veterans in

724
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Speaker 4: that back in that secondary with Kenny Moore, Julian Blackman

725
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:23,120
Speaker 4: to really help steady that ship and get these guys

726
00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:23,720
Speaker 4: to kind of learn.

727
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Speaker 3: Now, I'm not saying it's a good time to have

728
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Speaker 3: an injury.

729
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Speaker 4: I am glad that they've got, you know, fifteen or

730
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Speaker 4: so weeks of Julian's guidance to get help push them through.

731
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Speaker 4: But it's definitely going to be a big loss. And

732
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Speaker 4: hearing guy like ZAYR. Franklin earlier this week talk about

733
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Speaker 4: the importance of a guy like that's where really, I mean,

734
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Speaker 4: you you understand it when a guy like Zaire is

735
00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:46,600
Speaker 4: praising Julian for being able to do anything and everything

736
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Speaker 4: on the field other than an I mean, that's where

737
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Speaker 4: you see the importance. And I agree with you, Bill,

738
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Speaker 4: from just that what he's offering from a communications standpoint, he's.

739
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Speaker 3: Going to be a definite big miss.

740
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Speaker 1: Yeah, next man up, Nick Cross getting his second start,

741
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:04,200
Speaker 1: his third start of his career and first since Week

742
00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:07,800
Speaker 1: two of last year in twenty twenty two, and he's

743
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:10,040
Speaker 1: still only twenty two years old. Were talking about a

744
00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:12,360
Speaker 1: guy that still can't rent a car yet. Yeah, all right,

745
00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:14,760
Speaker 1: I mean there's a lot on his shoulders that he's

746
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:16,920
Speaker 1: ready he's athletic. Is all good? I got a little

747
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:19,280
Speaker 1: I gotta chuckle there in the back from Sherry. She

748
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:22,360
Speaker 1: appreciated that one. Right, that's when you know, that's when

749
00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:25,040
Speaker 1: you know. Sherry's the barometer there. All right, let's close out.

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Speaker 1: This is a segment that I'm calling the impression that

751
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Speaker 1: I get. Remember that old nineties song. The impression that

752
00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:37,000
Speaker 1: I get from the Mighty Mighty Bostones. Oh yeah, just

753
00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:40,680
Speaker 1: a great song. It was a terrible song. That's what

754
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:42,440
Speaker 1: I It's what I came up with the impression.

755
00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:46,280
Speaker 4: If the Mighty Mighty Bostones are listening, I apologize, but

756
00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:47,000
Speaker 4: there's your song.

757
00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:48,920
Speaker 3: If I don't ever have to hear it again, i'd

758
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Speaker 3: be all right.

759
00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:51,320
Speaker 1: There's your first reference in the last decade.

760
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:51,920
Speaker 3: There you go.

761
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:54,080
Speaker 1: All right, So what are you most impressed by? All right,

762
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Speaker 1: so let's talk about these Raiders here again, their backs

763
00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:59,400
Speaker 1: were against the wall. They fired their head coach and

764
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:03,040
Speaker 1: Josh mcdi annuals. Here comes Antonio Pierce. But they've rebounded

765
00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:05,840
Speaker 1: their four and three under the interim coach Pierce, they

766
00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:08,320
Speaker 1: find themselves in the playoff hunt. They're seven and eight.

767
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Speaker 1: It's a long shot, but they have a chance to

768
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Speaker 1: not only make the playoffs, but if they went out

769
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:15,920
Speaker 1: and the Chiefs lose out, the Raiders win the division

770
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Speaker 1: the AFC West for the first time since two thousand

771
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Speaker 1: and two. And looking at the last two weeks, they've

772
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Speaker 1: scored eighty three points. They scored a franchise high sixty

773
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Speaker 1: three points against the Chargers, and they knocked off the

774
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Speaker 1: Chiefs on the road on Christmas Day. So looking at

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Speaker 1: the last two weeks, Bill, what are you most impressed

776
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Speaker 1: by the sixty three burger they put on la or

777
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Speaker 1: that huge win on the road against the Chiefs snapping

778
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Speaker 1: a six game losing skid to Kansas City.

779
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Speaker 6: That's sixty three three burgers Pretty impressive.

780
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Speaker 1: He's pretty good.

781
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Speaker 6: That's pretty impressive. But I'm actually going to go with

782
00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:51,560
Speaker 6: the win against the Kansaity Chiefs, all right. And the

783
00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:53,600
Speaker 6: reason I'm gonna say that is because they went on

784
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:56,720
Speaker 6: the road to a division opponent, a team that is

785
00:33:56,880 --> 00:34:01,080
Speaker 6: very tough to beat in Kansas City. Mistaken I think

786
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:05,320
Speaker 6: mahomes is has some incredible record After November.

787
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Speaker 4: The first, it's the first loss in the division for

788
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:11,480
Speaker 4: Patrick mahomes of his career in either November or December.

789
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Speaker 6: I guess a division division unbelievable. That's unbelievable, and going

790
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:16,160
Speaker 6: in there.

791
00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:18,719
Speaker 1: And I so badly want to see the Chiefs play

792
00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:20,080
Speaker 1: a road game in the playoff.

793
00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, not to cut you off, but the whole

794
00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:25,400
Speaker 6: and to hold them to fourteen points the Chiefs and

795
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:27,880
Speaker 6: going there and beat them, that impressed me more.

796
00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:29,640
Speaker 1: Than Taylor Swift in the building too.

797
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:35,440
Speaker 6: I mean, I'm notably that probably shut it down all that, yeah,

798
00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:38,240
Speaker 6: but uh yeah, I mean I think I'm very impressed

799
00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:40,400
Speaker 6: with that. Going on the road in the hostile environment,

800
00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:43,200
Speaker 6: winning a game division game, when your playoff lives are

801
00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:45,480
Speaker 6: on the line, they have to win. So to me,

802
00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:49,040
Speaker 6: for those guys to take the pressure going there and

803
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:51,680
Speaker 6: beat Kansas City in their own backyard, to me was

804
00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:52,320
Speaker 6: very impressive.

805
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:54,799
Speaker 4: I agree completely with Bill because you talk about their

806
00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:57,359
Speaker 4: playoff lives, but also Kansas City, I mean, Kansas City

807
00:34:57,440 --> 00:35:00,160
Speaker 4: is in you know, under the Mahomes era. This this

808
00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:03,719
Speaker 4: is kind of waters they're not familiar with because ultimately

809
00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:06,879
Speaker 4: they're fighting for that one seed year in and year out,

810
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 4: and with that loss last week, I think that almost

811
00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 4: eliminates them from being in that first overall seed the

812
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:16,239
Speaker 4: first round. By and home field throughout, So that was

813
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:19,600
Speaker 4: a huge game for them. And I just felt watching

814
00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:22,200
Speaker 4: the game, Kansas City was so out of sorts and

815
00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:24,960
Speaker 4: it's just unlike Kansas City to look that way.

816
00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:25,440
Speaker 2: Now.

817
00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:27,400
Speaker 4: I know, this Kansas City team isn't what we have

818
00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:30,440
Speaker 4: come to expect because they've had a lot of issues,

819
00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:32,920
Speaker 4: especially in the pass catching standpoint.

820
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:34,200
Speaker 3: So it is a different team.

821
00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:36,800
Speaker 4: But I agree with you that win for the Raiders,

822
00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:38,520
Speaker 4: and we talked about, you know, not being able to

823
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:40,720
Speaker 4: complete a pass after the first quarter and still defeating

824
00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:43,200
Speaker 4: a team like the Raiders or the Chiefs, all of

825
00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:44,400
Speaker 4: that is pretty impressive.

826
00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:47,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, Patrick Mahomes had won eleven of his last twelve

827
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:50,799
Speaker 1: games against the Raiders, and that was a I mean,

828
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:53,360
Speaker 1: if you just watched the game, and you know the

829
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:56,840
Speaker 1: struggles that every team in that division has had against

830
00:35:56,840 --> 00:36:00,399
Speaker 1: the Chiefs, but specifically the Raiders. The Raiders have been

831
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:03,200
Speaker 1: the butt of a lot of jokes the Chiefs. I

832
00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:05,719
Speaker 1: mean last year they played late in the season and

833
00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:08,480
Speaker 1: Andy Reid's calling that ring around the Rose he play.

834
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:10,680
Speaker 1: I mean, that's a big listen, honest, So that's a

835
00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:13,600
Speaker 1: big middle finger, it really is. It's like, you know,

836
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:16,960
Speaker 1: we can just f around. We can f around and

837
00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:18,960
Speaker 1: do a kid's game at the line of scrimmage and

838
00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:21,960
Speaker 1: still beat you. And I think the Raiders had that

839
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:24,279
Speaker 1: in the back of their mind. They certainly played with

840
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:27,480
Speaker 1: a chip on their shoulder under Antonio Pierce. And if

841
00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:29,720
Speaker 1: you just watch the game, at the end of the game,

842
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:34,080
Speaker 1: you visibly saw Antonio Pierce the weight of the world.

843
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:36,520
Speaker 1: He lifted off of his shoulders, he took a big

844
00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:41,040
Speaker 1: exhale and was just really emotional about that win. And

845
00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:44,080
Speaker 1: rightfully so. I don't know if it was the same

846
00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:47,320
Speaker 1: to the same degree the week before for the Colts

847
00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:51,680
Speaker 1: against the Steelers, but there's just something about that bill,

848
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:55,280
Speaker 1: the human element of a huge game and then coming

849
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:57,920
Speaker 1: back the next week and just not having the same edge.

850
00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:00,319
Speaker 1: That's what the cults are hoping for this week from

851
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:02,640
Speaker 1: the Raiders, because I just don't think they can play

852
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:05,759
Speaker 1: with that same high and that same intensity that they

853
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:08,359
Speaker 1: had to have to knock off the Chiefs on the road.

854
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:10,040
Speaker 6: And it's tough, you know. They like said they want

855
00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:11,839
Speaker 6: on the road play Kansas City. They have to come

856
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:15,360
Speaker 6: on the road now, fly across the country just about

857
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:19,560
Speaker 6: for them, yeah, to Indianapolis and play again. And they

858
00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:21,279
Speaker 6: have to have a big game. You know, it's a

859
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:22,920
Speaker 6: big games, a pressure game for them. You know, this

860
00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:24,920
Speaker 6: like as a pressure game for the cold. So they

861
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:26,920
Speaker 6: have to play. So it's we'll see what happens, you know,

862
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:29,520
Speaker 6: see if they can get up for the game and get.

863
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:31,400
Speaker 5: Up for the game for four quarters. All's going to

864
00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:32,000
Speaker 5: be a long game.

865
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:33,799
Speaker 1: Indeed, all right, the impression that I get what are

866
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:35,560
Speaker 1: you most impressed by? Here? We got one more that

867
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:37,680
Speaker 1: I want to get into after this one. The Raiders

868
00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:41,280
Speaker 1: started three and five, like we said, under Antonio Pierce,

869
00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:45,600
Speaker 1: though their defense has been lights out. Their defensive average

870
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:49,320
Speaker 1: since Antonio Pierce took over in Week nine, it's fifteen

871
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:52,759
Speaker 1: point three points per game. That ranks number one in

872
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:55,520
Speaker 1: the NFL in that span, and it makes sense right

873
00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:59,080
Speaker 1: as defensive guy, former linebacker in the NFL. And they're

874
00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:03,640
Speaker 1: also getting a under production from Malcolm Coots and also

875
00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:07,320
Speaker 1: obviously from Max Crosby. Crosby's got thirteen and a half sacks,

876
00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:10,200
Speaker 1: He's got twenty tackles for loss. So, Bill, what are

877
00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:13,359
Speaker 1: you most impressed by? Is it Crosby's continued havoc or

878
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:17,040
Speaker 1: the defensive turnaround by the Raiders overall that oh, by

879
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:21,040
Speaker 1: the way, includes four defensive touchdowns in the last two games.

880
00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:22,200
Speaker 1: What are you most impressed by?

881
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Speaker 6: You know, don't get me wrong, Max Crosby is a

882
00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:28,640
Speaker 6: game wrecker. He's playing well, but going into the season,

883
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:30,800
Speaker 6: I kind of expected Max Crosby to be Max Krosby,

884
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:33,600
Speaker 6: to do his thing and be a game wrecker. So

885
00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:35,839
Speaker 6: that doesn't impress me as much because I've expected him

886
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:39,400
Speaker 6: to do it. Turning around that defense, all the guys

887
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:44,200
Speaker 6: playing together, playing well, holding like I said earlier, can't

888
00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:47,800
Speaker 6: say to fourteen points and scoring four touchdowns in the

889
00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:49,000
Speaker 6: last two games.

890
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:50,240
Speaker 5: Just the things they have done.

891
00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:52,240
Speaker 6: And just how he has come in and changed things,

892
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:55,200
Speaker 6: not just so much as far as the scheme goes,

893
00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:59,200
Speaker 6: but their mentality and how they're playing, playing aggressive, playing physical,

894
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:03,000
Speaker 6: playing the old style Raiders football. That's what he wants

895
00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:05,359
Speaker 6: to do and that's what that's what they're doing. So

896
00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:08,360
Speaker 6: give them cress. I'm gonna go with the whole defense

897
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:12,160
Speaker 6: as a whole, making that change and being impressed with

898
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:14,480
Speaker 6: the things they're doing. Holding what team he'said the fifteen

899
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Speaker 6: point fifteen point yeah point three in that span, so

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Speaker 6: give them credit.

901
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:19,360
Speaker 5: I'm going with the whole defense.

902
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm right there with you, Bill, I mean, we

903
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:25,399
Speaker 4: talk at nauseam, especially here with the Colts team. When

904
00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:27,759
Speaker 4: they win the turnover battle, they win football games. And

905
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Speaker 4: if you look at what the Raiders did the first

906
00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:31,920
Speaker 4: eight weeks under Josh McDaniels, there were minus eight in

907
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Speaker 4: the turnover battle. They've completely flipped that under Antonio Pierce.

908
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Speaker 4: They're plus seven in the in the seven weeks that

909
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Speaker 4: he's been under helm which and they're they're offensively not

910
00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:45,080
Speaker 4: turning the football over at the same rate they were defensively.

911
00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:47,719
Speaker 4: We talk about the you know, the touchdowns they've had

912
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Speaker 4: from defensive but also just it's just a complete shift

913
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Speaker 4: in the mentality in that locker room. So and you

914
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Speaker 4: talk about Max Crosby. You look at him and yeah,

915
00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:01,920
Speaker 4: he's constantly in the backfield, but he does so many

916
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Speaker 4: other things too. He's great against the run. I mean,

917
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Speaker 4: he's third on the team in tackles. Like a lot

918
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Speaker 4: of times when you look at these these ed rushers,

919
00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:12,120
Speaker 4: you know they'll have you know, maybe eight tackles outside

920
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Speaker 4: of the twelve sacks that they rack up. And that's

921
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Speaker 4: just what you get. Not with Max Crosby. He is

922
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:18,719
Speaker 4: a guy who's gonna play. You know, he's gonna play

923
00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:20,520
Speaker 4: every down. He's gonna be all over the field, so

924
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:22,319
Speaker 4: you know what to expect out of him.

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Speaker 1: He is.

926
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Speaker 4: I mean, it's one of those things. I said this

927
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Speaker 4: before the Miles Garrett thing. I'm excited to see him

928
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:31,399
Speaker 4: in person because you watch him on TV and it's like, wow,

929
00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:33,400
Speaker 4: he's all over the place. So watching him in person,

930
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:36,239
Speaker 4: he's just a different type of player. You know, Rick

931
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:39,200
Speaker 4: for Venturrey's gonna call him an ambient player. He is

932
00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:41,279
Speaker 4: one of those guys. So he is definitely impressive. But

933
00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:43,520
Speaker 4: I would agree with you. It's it's that switch that

934
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Speaker 4: we've seen over the last handful of weeks.

935
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Speaker 1: Yeah. The Raiders now have five defensive touchdowns on the year,

936
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Speaker 1: including as we said, four in the last two games,

937
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Speaker 1: two in each of the last two games. It marked

938
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Speaker 1: the first time in Raiders history they scored multiple non

939
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Speaker 1: offensive touchdowns and consecutive games, and the Raiders are only

940
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Speaker 1: the second team in the NFL since at least two

941
00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:09,120
Speaker 1: thousand to record multiple defensive touchdowns and consecutive games. The

942
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Speaker 1: Bears in twenty twelve were the only other team to

943
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Speaker 1: do it. All right, one more quick, what are you

944
00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:17,280
Speaker 1: most impressed by the impression that I get here. Michael

945
00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:21,280
Speaker 1: Pittman Junior only one catch away from one hundred catches

946
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Speaker 1: on the season. Zaire Franklin is only six tackles away

947
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:29,360
Speaker 1: from breaking the record that he set last year for

948
00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:32,560
Speaker 1: the most tackles in a single season by a Colts player.

949
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:35,560
Speaker 1: He would have one hundred and sixty seven tackles on

950
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Speaker 1: the year if he can get at least six coming

951
00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:39,920
Speaker 1: up on Sunday, Casey, what are you most impressed by

952
00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:41,920
Speaker 1: Pittman season or Franklin season.

953
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:46,360
Speaker 4: I think it's Pittman season because you knew how heavily

954
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Speaker 4: he was.

955
00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:49,440
Speaker 3: Going to be relied on, and.

956
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:53,600
Speaker 4: I would say throughout the majority of the season, everybody

957
00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:57,680
Speaker 4: knew where the football was going, and he continues to

958
00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:01,040
Speaker 4: just produce. And if you put him in that category,

959
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Speaker 4: if he gets that catch and he's up over one

960
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:06,080
Speaker 4: hundred with one thousand receiving yards, he becomes just the

961
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Speaker 4: fourth Folts player to ever do it. Reggie Wayne's done it,

962
00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:11,200
Speaker 4: Marvin Harrison's done it. In Dallas, Clark has done it.

963
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Speaker 4: That's some elite company right there now, what Zaire is doing.

964
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Speaker 4: I'm not at all downplaying at all because Zaire has

965
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:20,439
Speaker 4: just become a force over the last couple of years.

966
00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:22,799
Speaker 4: He's a guy who you realize how important he is

967
00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:25,160
Speaker 4: to the defense. But what Michael Pittman has done this

968
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:28,480
Speaker 4: year has been very, very impressive. And you talked about

969
00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:31,000
Speaker 4: the loss of Julian Blackman in a contract year for

970
00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:33,040
Speaker 4: Pittman to contract.

971
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Speaker 3: Here, and you talk about he's put it out there.

972
00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:37,279
Speaker 4: He's doing just fine when it comes to that, when

973
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:39,040
Speaker 4: it when when free agency rolls around.

974
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Speaker 1: So, I know what I'll have to ask you already

975
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:42,520
Speaker 1: know where you're going wide receiver.

976
00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:43,799
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know I'm going.

977
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:46,480
Speaker 1: I'm going with a lot of ego over there.

978
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:49,239
Speaker 5: My big ego. You can't even fit in this room.

979
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:51,680
Speaker 3: Actually tell you, I'm glad you said it.

980
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:53,960
Speaker 1: You a wider lens to fit you in here.

981
00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:56,439
Speaker 6: No, I'm going with pitt And to me, it says

982
00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:59,439
Speaker 6: consistency what he's done coming in here.

983
00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:00,960
Speaker 5: And also so you think about.

984
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:04,319
Speaker 6: What pitt has done, he's done with a new offer

985
00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:07,479
Speaker 6: the quarter quarterback, because you know, different from last year,

986
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:09,440
Speaker 6: so a new quarterback.

987
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:11,520
Speaker 5: And how many quarterbacks has he had?

988
00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:13,640
Speaker 6: You know, you look at over his career what he's done,

989
00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:17,120
Speaker 6: and he's been consistent every year. So give the man

990
00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:19,200
Speaker 6: credit for what he's done. And I just like you know,

991
00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:21,279
Speaker 6: he has ninety nine catches. Last year just missed it.

992
00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:23,360
Speaker 6: Now he's ninety nine catches and right now, you know,

993
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:26,719
Speaker 6: hope he's healthy, Hope everything's wrong with him, come back,

994
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:28,719
Speaker 6: play and be productive out in the football field.

995
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:29,760
Speaker 5: Go over ninety nine.

996
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:32,440
Speaker 6: And as you mentioned, Casey, you know he's in some

997
00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:35,719
Speaker 6: great company. You're talking about Reggie, Marvin Dallas. So for

998
00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:38,960
Speaker 6: him to do those things, and to me, when the

999
00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:42,239
Speaker 6: coach needs a big play, a big passing play and

1000
00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:45,440
Speaker 6: the defense knows that, okay, more unlikely that going to Pittman, right,

1001
00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:48,879
Speaker 6: and he still makes a cat, a big catch, first down,

1002
00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:50,920
Speaker 6: whatever it may be. That says a lot about that

1003
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:51,359
Speaker 6: young man.

1004
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:52,600
Speaker 5: And he's he's done a good job.

1005
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:54,480
Speaker 6: He's done a very nice job for the team and

1006
00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:58,400
Speaker 6: been very dependent Bill unfortunately for the outside of the injury.

1007
00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:01,560
Speaker 6: Had last week, then play lie week. Hopefully things get better.

1008
00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:03,560
Speaker 6: But yeah, I should say I should say he's been

1009
00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:05,640
Speaker 6: more consistent when he's out there playing and done a

1010
00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:06,040
Speaker 6: great job.

1011
00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:08,440
Speaker 1: Well you just describe that's a dog, definition of a

1012
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:11,000
Speaker 1: dog right now, the go to player, all right, the

1013
00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:14,000
Speaker 1: likelihood of all of these things happening coming up on

1014
00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:17,040
Speaker 1: Sunday or this weekend. Let's scoreboard. Watch here. We got

1015
00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:20,160
Speaker 1: the Titans at the Texans. Colts need the Titans to

1016
00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:23,320
Speaker 1: win after following a couple weeks ago to Houston in overtime.

1017
00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:26,200
Speaker 1: We need the Panthers to beat the Jaguars. That game

1018
00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:29,839
Speaker 1: is in Jacksonville. Is Trevor Lawrence gonna play? We don't know.

1019
00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:31,600
Speaker 1: He's got like twelve injuries a human.

1020
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:34,239
Speaker 4: I mean, this guy's got he's like every week he's

1021
00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:35,080
Speaker 4: got a new injury.

1022
00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:35,399
Speaker 3: Man.

1023
00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:39,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, so we'll keep an eye on that game. Steelers

1024
00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:42,640
Speaker 1: at the Seahawks. Obviously, the Colts need Seattle to win

1025
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:45,320
Speaker 1: that football game. The Steelers one of those eight and

1026
00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:47,680
Speaker 1: seven teams kind of clipping at the heels of the Colts,

1027
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:51,279
Speaker 1: as are the Cincinnati Bengals. This is the really big one.

1028
00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:51,920
Speaker 3: Yes, If the.

1029
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:54,760
Speaker 1: Colts could pick and choose one team to lose this week,

1030
00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:57,560
Speaker 1: knowing they played the Texans next week right and can

1031
00:44:57,640 --> 00:45:00,560
Speaker 1: kind of control the outcome and can troll at least

1032
00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:03,719
Speaker 1: one more loss given to Houston, it would be this

1033
00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:07,080
Speaker 1: Bengals Chiefs game. The Colts need the Bengals to really

1034
00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:09,800
Speaker 1: lose root for Kansas City. We just talked about Patrick

1035
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:12,400
Speaker 1: Mahomes and and all their ups and downs that we

1036
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:13,520
Speaker 1: need them to figure it out.

1037
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:17,799
Speaker 4: This figure it out this week. Come on, Patrick, Travis Kelce,

1038
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:20,600
Speaker 4: don't break your helmets, you know, no more throwing tantrums

1039
00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:21,880
Speaker 4: like you know, come on, just go.

1040
00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:25,160
Speaker 1: Day off Instagram for like six days and we'll be fine.

1041
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:27,920
Speaker 1: That game is in Arrowhead, by the way, the Colts

1042
00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:31,080
Speaker 1: really need the Bengals to suffer n l coming up

1043
00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:35,839
Speaker 1: this weekend. All right, boys, you guys ready two games left. Man, Touchdowntown,

1044
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:38,719
Speaker 1: hype it up on the pregame show on Sunday, Touchdowntown.

1045
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:41,440
Speaker 1: We'll be outside there with Joe Wrights, yep.

1046
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:44,359
Speaker 6: JMV and Jeffrey Gorman. Be out there, everyone, come out

1047
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:46,759
Speaker 6: there and here's some music and listen to us talk

1048
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:49,160
Speaker 6: about the game coming up to the Las Vegas Rayers.

1049
00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:51,680
Speaker 6: So come on out there, have some fun and enjoy yourself.

1050
00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:53,600
Speaker 5: And it really is a great into Lucas.

1051
00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:57,279
Speaker 6: Oil Stadium and make some noise, be revved up and

1052
00:45:57,320 --> 00:45:58,000
Speaker 6: be ready to go.

1053
00:45:58,160 --> 00:46:00,399
Speaker 1: All right, Bill Brooks on the pregame show, like you said,

1054
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Speaker 1: that starts at ten am on the Colts pregame huddle

1055
00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:05,640
Speaker 1: ninety three to five one oh seven five of the

1056
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Speaker 1: fan and then Casey, you take over on the network

1057
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Speaker 1: beginning at dune on AKFM and also the fan as well.

1058
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Speaker 4: Yeah, and I mean, you know, Bill talked about it.

1059
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Speaker 4: It's gonna be hyped in touchdown Town. And this these

1060
00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:20,400
Speaker 4: fans have been wonning a playoff game for a long time.

1061
00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:22,000
Speaker 1: This is it.

1062
00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:25,120
Speaker 4: I mean, here's these next two weeks. This is playoff

1063
00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:28,000
Speaker 4: football right here. It may not be you know, labeled

1064
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:30,719
Speaker 4: in the play but this is this is as important

1065
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:33,040
Speaker 4: as it gets. So be loud and and you know,

1066
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Speaker 4: I want Lucas Oola to be rocking because these are

1067
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Speaker 4: some some really big games the next two weeks.

1068
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Speaker 3: I'm excited. I can't wait.

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Speaker 1: Indeed, you have the last two at home again. Case

1070
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Speaker 1: has got you covered on countdown to Kickoff beginning at

1071
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Speaker 1: nude and then myself, Rick Vent Terry lair Overton we

1072
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Speaker 1: take over with all the play by play beginning at

1073
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Speaker 1: one as the Colts look to take a big step

1074
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Speaker 1: forward heading into the playoffs, trying to get a win

1075
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Speaker 1: over the Raiders six straight year. By the way, the

1076
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Speaker 1: Colts and the Raiders have met in the regular season

1077
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Speaker 1: every year since twenty It's just worked out that way

1078
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Speaker 1: between the crossovers and all that stuff. We don't need

1079
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Speaker 1: to get into that, but Colt's trying to get a

1080
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Speaker 1: huge win at Lucas Oil Stadium. Happy New Year, everybody

1081
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Speaker 1: that's going to do it for us here on the

1082
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Speaker 1: official Colts Podcast for Bill Brooks, Casey Valier, Sherry behind

1083
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Speaker 1: the scenes. Appreciate you very much for all that you do.

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00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:23,799
Speaker 1: Audio Network wherever you download your podcast, and we'll break

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Speaker 1: Win Las Vegas. Have a great weekend everybody, and happy

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Speaker 1: New Year.