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Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, It's Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks from Move

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Speaker 1: the Sticks and this is Josh Rosen three sixty second

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Speaker 1: and goal Rosen to pass again u c L. What

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Speaker 1: an unbelievable thrown whoa rolling is Rosen? The backs out?

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Speaker 1: Text down Rose all right, buckets here the Josh Rosen

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Speaker 1: three sixty episode. I'm pumped for this one man. We've

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Speaker 1: talked to some great folks and we have got a

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Speaker 1: fantastic podcast right here. Yeah, because we get a chance

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Speaker 1: to break down his game, talk about his pro potential,

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Speaker 1: his team fits. But more importantly, we talked to the

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Speaker 1: people who know him will. We talked to US high

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Speaker 1: school coach Jason Nagro. We talked to Trent Dilford, who

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Speaker 1: to his college coach at u c l A Jim

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Speaker 1: More And more importantly, we talked to u c L.

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Speaker 1: A legend Maurice Jones. Drew m j D joined in

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Speaker 1: the show. So this is gonna be a fun episode.

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Speaker 1: Lots to get to here, This three sixty series of

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Speaker 1: the best thing that we do. If you've missed it,

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Speaker 1: go back and find him because we've got him on

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Speaker 1: all I think seven episodes when it's all said and

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Speaker 1: a lot of great feedback. I think you guys will

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Speaker 1: enjoy the other episodes as well as this one. Let's say,

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Speaker 1: let's go ahead and get our opinion out there of

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Speaker 1: what we see of Josh Rose and I'll give you

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Speaker 1: the floor first, because you have been very consistent, I

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Speaker 1: think probably over a year now, where you have said

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Speaker 1: Josh Rosen is the top quarterback in this draft. You

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Speaker 1: have not budged, you have not moved. No, I haven't.

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Speaker 1: I believe he's the best pure passer in this draft.

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Speaker 1: I've kind of anointed him the natural because when I

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Speaker 1: look at the tape, I believe he does everything that

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Speaker 1: we have seen high level NFL quarterbacks do for the

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Speaker 1: last twenty twenty five years. Throws with great touch, timing, anticipation.

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Speaker 1: He has tremendous arm talent. He has a great feel

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Speaker 1: I look Josh Rosen, it's easy for me to drop

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Speaker 1: him into any offense and envision him having success in

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Speaker 1: big thing for Josh will be making sure that he's

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Speaker 1: too much thing that you can win every play. But

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Speaker 1: if he plays within himself, I can see him having

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Speaker 1: an outstanding career with a bunch of Pro Bowls and

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Speaker 1: all kinds of honors going his way. I'm going back

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Speaker 1: through my notes here, and uh, this is the word

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Speaker 1: he throws a majestic ball. Okay, it is beautiful. The

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Speaker 1: way it comes out is textbook. You we everybody's using

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Speaker 1: this phrase to the best pure passer because it's accurate.

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Speaker 1: It is what he is. He's the best pure pastor. Mechanically.

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Speaker 1: You watch him in his drop. He throws from a

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Speaker 1: It's beautiful to watch him throw as bestially, when everything

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Speaker 1: is on time, on schedule, I think he's the best

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Speaker 1: You need to see the quarterback in there. For the quarterback.

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Speaker 1: For some guys, it's a six day of week job.

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Speaker 1: For the quarterback, it's a seven day of week job.

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Speaker 1: You don't get tuesdays off. You know you did first

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Speaker 1: back to the beginning in our conversation with Jason Negro,

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Speaker 1: the head coach at St. John Bosco who won a

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Speaker 1: You've coached a lot of great players and the pipeline

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Speaker 1: is not slowing down. You continue to pump out big

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Speaker 1: much has been made about his intelligence, his ability to

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Speaker 1: that he would ask, you know, an upper level question,

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Speaker 1: a question you might expect from a five year vet

433
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Speaker 1: in the NFL, that all of a sudden, this young

434
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Speaker 1: kid a young kid, but this young man was asking

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Speaker 1: you uh. There there were a lot of moments like that,

436
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Speaker 1: and then there was also moments when you saw that

437
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Speaker 1: you know, he was still a freshman, but what you

438
00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:22,639
Speaker 1: always saw was that he had the ability and the

439
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Speaker 1: intelligence to become a great player if he's so desired.

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Speaker 1: It's funny that you say that you saw that right away,

441
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Speaker 1: because after his freshman season, you went on Reckon and

442
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Speaker 1: say that if he was eligible to come out in

443
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Speaker 1: the twenties sixteen draft, that he would have been the

444
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Speaker 1: number one pick. What led you to say that about him?

445
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Speaker 1: His his football, i Q, his maturity and his skill set,

446
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Speaker 1: you know. And I know people looked at me kind

447
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Speaker 1: of crazy when I said that. Now they look at

448
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Speaker 1: me crazy when I said to say Sam Darnold over him.

449
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Speaker 1: So they probably want to know where I fit on that.

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Speaker 1: But I think you can have changing opinions. I I

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Speaker 1: just felt that after his freshman year, Uh, he had

452
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Speaker 1: demonstrated to me that he had what it took to

453
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Speaker 1: be a great NFL player. He still had work to do, obviously,

454
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Speaker 1: but you saw the potential and uh, I'd stand by that,

455
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Speaker 1: you know, and I think he's gonna be a great

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Speaker 1: player at the next level. I want to go back

457
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Speaker 1: to that opener against Texas A and M. That was,

458
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Speaker 1: if you're gonna say Josh Rosen's kind of hallmark game.

459
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Speaker 1: He had some some big games, no doubt over his career,

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Speaker 1: but I think that moment, probably for most of us,

461
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Speaker 1: was like, Okay, that that that's impressive. Right there? Is

462
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Speaker 1: there something that stands out to you maybe in the

463
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Speaker 1: in the preparation of that game on the sideline for

464
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Speaker 1: that game. Is it something you know, coming off of

465
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Speaker 1: a tough game at their place the year before and

466
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Speaker 1: to to just play a wild shootout and a comeback

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Speaker 1: when there is there anything you remember from that from

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Speaker 1: that game specifically about Josh, I just remember the toughness

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Speaker 1: he demonstrated. So for anybody that questions his toughness, or

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Speaker 1: if anyone were ever question his competitiveness, I would take

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Speaker 1: them to that game, to that second half, and really

472
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Speaker 1: that fourth quarter when we had to load the entire

473
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Speaker 1: team up on his back and he had to make plays,

474
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Speaker 1: and he had to make tough plays, and he was

475
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Speaker 1: beat up and he'd been hit, and he'd been running

476
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Speaker 1: around scrambling for his life, and yet he rose up

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Speaker 1: and uh and he, to me demonstrated just a lot

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Speaker 1: of grit and a lot of toughness and great competitiveness

479
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Speaker 1: and tremendous leadership. You know, our team said, that's our guy.

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Speaker 1: We're going where he goes. We love this guy. Coach

481
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Speaker 1: is funny. DJ and I have a belief that quarterbacks

482
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Speaker 1: come in two categories. They're either trucks where they carry

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Speaker 1: the team or their trailers where the team carries them.

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Speaker 1: Based on all accounts, it sounds like you're saying that

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Speaker 1: Josh Rosen is a truck. But I'm gonna have you

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Speaker 1: categorize him. Do you believe he's a truck or trailer

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Speaker 1: in those categories. I think he's a truck. I think

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Speaker 1: that he has the ability to be a truck. You know,

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Speaker 1: to project a guy in the NFL and say that

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Speaker 1: he's going to be, as you said, a truck, that's, uh,

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Speaker 1: that's risky because as you guys know, it takes a

492
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Speaker 1: tremendous amount of luck, of preparation, of commitment, uh, being

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Speaker 1: in the right spot at the right time to be

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Speaker 1: that truck. But I think he certainly has those characteristics,

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Speaker 1: and as he applies himself and as he gets older

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Speaker 1: and as he learns more and more and he's as

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Speaker 1: he around great players and studies them, that he'll definitely

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Speaker 1: be a semi don't that's a new category, the third category,

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Speaker 1: semi al. I like going through these specific behind the

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Speaker 1: scenes situations, coach, because that's something you know, we can

501
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Speaker 1: study the tape in form our opinions, but hearing what's

502
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Speaker 1: going on behind the scenes. So we talked about a

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Speaker 1: and m I want to go to Memphis, right. Josh

504
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Speaker 1: has a couple I id category categorize them, kind of

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Speaker 1: some hero type throws where the play is dead, he's

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Speaker 1: still trying to keep the play alive. I admire the

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Speaker 1: competitiveness there, but you have some turnovers that result out

508
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Speaker 1: of that style of place. So that game ends, and

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Speaker 1: maybe it's not there in the locker room, but at

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Speaker 1: some point in time during that next week. What's your

511
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Speaker 1: conversation like with him? And how does he handle that?

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Speaker 1: What was always easy with Josh because he's his own

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Speaker 1: toughest critic. You know, he would come to the sideline

514
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Speaker 1: and he would said, well, that was not a very

515
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Speaker 1: good decision. You know, he would own it immediately and

516
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Speaker 1: then he would move on. And I always appreciate that

517
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Speaker 1: about him. Is uh that he was ready to step

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Speaker 1: up and and you know, either own his mistakes or

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Speaker 1: pass the credit to others when you did. Oh. I

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Speaker 1: love the mindset of not conceding a play, and I

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Speaker 1: love that mindset. That mindset just has to be managed.

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Speaker 1: And I think as Josh has gone along, and as

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Speaker 1: he continues to go along, he'll get better and better

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Speaker 1: at understanding that. Okay, the play is over, Let's get

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Speaker 1: to the next down. You know, with possession of the football,

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Speaker 1: no one, what you know now about him through your

527
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Speaker 1: three years of being his head coach, what would be

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Speaker 1: the perfect scenario for Josh Rosen at the next level. Well,

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Speaker 1: I've said this a couple of times that I think

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Speaker 1: that he needs to be somewhere where he's going to

531
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Speaker 1: be challenged intellectually and he's going to be stimulated intellectually.

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Speaker 1: You know, this is a guy that wants to know why,

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Speaker 1: which I think is a great attribute for anyone to have,

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Speaker 1: but especially a quarterback, because he wants to dive in

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Speaker 1: deep and understand exactly what's expected of him, exactly what

536
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Speaker 1: we're trying to get accomplished with a play or a concept. Uh.

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Speaker 1: And he doesn't necessarily just take things at face value.

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Speaker 1: He said, good, tell me why, and it's a good thing.

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Speaker 1: It's a good why. I've never heard him be disrespectful

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Speaker 1: to any buddy at all. I've all I've always seen

541
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Speaker 1: him take tough coaching very very well. So a situation

542
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Speaker 1: for him is where, um, someone's gonna you know, I

543
00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:12,520
Speaker 1: think you've said it publicly. Given the keys to the car,

544
00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:16,320
Speaker 1: make tremendous demands of him, you know, make him learn

545
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Speaker 1: the whole playbook, immediately throw him in as the starter,

546
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Speaker 1: and I think when he's challenged that way, he'll rise

547
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Speaker 1: up and he really becomes something special. All Right, this

548
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Speaker 1: is a tough one for you because I'm gon asking now,

549
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Speaker 1: pretend that you're not that you went the head coach

550
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Speaker 1: for Josh Rose and I want you to put your

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Speaker 1: defensive coordinators had on what you've done your whole life.

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Speaker 1: If you're if you're devising a game plan against Josh Rosen,

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Speaker 1: what does it look like? What are you trying to

554
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Speaker 1: take it away from him? What are you trying to

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Speaker 1: force him into. Well, I'm gonna try to squeeze the

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Speaker 1: pocket and take away the throwing lanes because I think

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Speaker 1: he's really good in the pocket of moving his feet

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Speaker 1: and finding the throwing lanes. We're gonna put thoughts on

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Speaker 1: him and try to, you know, squeeze the pocket. Um,

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Speaker 1: you know, you play some tight man a man on him.

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Speaker 1: But he's gonna make those throws that you have to

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Speaker 1: make versus type man to man. It's gonna be tough

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Speaker 1: to will him with a scheme that works in disguise

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Speaker 1: because he just sees things so well. Uh, well, I

565
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Speaker 1: don't know. I mean, it's a challenge. It speaks to

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Speaker 1: his ability that it's a challenge accomplice and you know

567
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Speaker 1: what's gonna happen at the NFL level. He's gonna come

568
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Speaker 1: up against some really smart football players and some really

569
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Speaker 1: intelligent coordinators have put together great schemes and he will

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Speaker 1: see things that he hasn't seen at the college level.

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Speaker 1: But uh, I think that he'll decipher him fairly quickly.

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Speaker 1: You know, he's gonna make some mistakes like everybody does,

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Speaker 1: but he doesn't often make the same mistake more than once,

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Speaker 1: other than as you said, sometimes the hero throw. But

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Speaker 1: you can it's a good thing that can be coached through.

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Speaker 1: You know. I think it's funny that you said building

577
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Speaker 1: the game plan. One thing that I want to ask

578
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Speaker 1: you about. Quarterbacks are kind of evaluated how they play

579
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Speaker 1: in class situations. So if it's a two minute situation,

580
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Speaker 1: games on the line, you guys are down and Josh

581
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Speaker 1: has the ball with a time outlift, what does that

582
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Speaker 1: trust and confidence level in him that he can get

583
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Speaker 1: you to the end zone. Mine was high? Yeah, My, My,

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Speaker 1: My trust and confidence level in him was was very,

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Speaker 1: very high. And you know, we played Washington State his

586
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Speaker 1: sophomore year and he ran for a touchdown thirty five

587
00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:11,480
Speaker 1: yards now and then we had to go back on

588
00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:13,439
Speaker 1: the field and we lost on defense. But he essentially

589
00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:15,600
Speaker 1: had us in a position to win the game with

590
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Speaker 1: his legs, which people have never seen before. You know,

591
00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:20,560
Speaker 1: he just and it was again his competitiveness got him

592
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Speaker 1: into the end zone. Because he's not lightning fast, but

593
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Speaker 1: he when he was on that field, he was fast

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Speaker 1: enough to get to the end zone. Uh. We played

595
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Speaker 1: Stanford the same year and now we were down. It

596
00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:33,320
Speaker 1: wasn't really a two minute situation, but you know, we were.

597
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Speaker 1: We were out of the game. The game was since over.

598
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Speaker 1: And he made a throw versus Cover two down the middle,

599
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Speaker 1: right over the top of the linebacker between the safeties.

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Speaker 1: It was just spectacle. And I said, make that throw

601
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Speaker 1: every time. I said, what were you thinking, cause, I said,

602
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Speaker 1: because help with it. I just figured I'd just throw it,

603
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Speaker 1: you know, with look at the score and I said,

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Speaker 1: I love that. He said, I said, now make it

605
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Speaker 1: every time, because you can make that throw every time.

606
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Speaker 1: He's special. Last question for me on Josh, just all

607
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Speaker 1: your time in the NFL and maybe haven't coached somebody

608
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Speaker 1: like him, but just haven't gone up against some the

609
00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:02,720
Speaker 1: skill set wise that reminds you a little bit, maybe

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Speaker 1: from an armed talent standpoint, or just anything at all

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Speaker 1: that reminds you of Josh over the years. Well, he's

612
00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:10,440
Speaker 1: so smooth, you know, his rhythm is so smooth. So

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to think of a quarterback that. Uh. I mean,

614
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Speaker 1: he's been doing work with with Aaron Rodgers and Aaron

615
00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:17,439
Speaker 1: gets there's some comparisons you see there, just because everything

616
00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:19,480
Speaker 1: just smooth and easy and and that. And you know

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Speaker 1: what else I thought about this today when we were

618
00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:25,800
Speaker 1: watching their conversation. Is there there uh the way they

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Speaker 1: look on camera? Their face? Uh, Josh when you're throwing

620
00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:32,240
Speaker 1: the football, his face always looks relaxed and comfortable. Same

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Speaker 1: with Aaron. When you see Aaron in a game, he

622
00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:36,280
Speaker 1: never looks like he's stressed. You know. He always looked

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Speaker 1: like he's got great command. I think you'll see the

624
00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:41,000
Speaker 1: same thing out of Josh because he does have great command.

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Speaker 1: I think is he gets further along his career, he's

626
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Speaker 1: just gonna get better and better. Alright. Black with Jim

627
00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:48,359
Speaker 1: Moore definitely found himself in the news a bunch, you know,

628
00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:51,119
Speaker 1: talking about his takes with us on NFL Network and

629
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Speaker 1: other media outlets about about Josh Rose, and I thought

630
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Speaker 1: it was great a chance to to sit him here

631
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Speaker 1: in the studio and have a good chat in there

632
00:27:57,440 --> 00:27:59,320
Speaker 1: about Mr Rosen. Yeah, he pulled back down onion a

633
00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:02,720
Speaker 1: little back. He uh told everybody what we should think

634
00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:04,720
Speaker 1: about Josh Rosen in terms of how he goes about

635
00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:07,399
Speaker 1: his business, what he does to prepare, how he is

636
00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:09,399
Speaker 1: with his teammates, and more importantly, how it was to

637
00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:11,800
Speaker 1: coach a guy like Josh Rose. No question. Great insight

638
00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:15,000
Speaker 1: there from coach Moore. Our next guest also has great

639
00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:17,399
Speaker 1: insight on Josh Rose, and haven't been around him as

640
00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:19,920
Speaker 1: you were Buck during the high school days and experience.

641
00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:22,480
Speaker 1: It didn't go all that well at the Elite eleven.

642
00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:24,680
Speaker 1: But this is gonna chance to clear the air find

643
00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:27,080
Speaker 1: out what happened there. Here's our chat with Trent Dilfer

644
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Speaker 1: six overall pick the Night Draft, but really he's kind

645
00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:33,560
Speaker 1: of the caretaker of quarterbacks is the official title that

646
00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:36,920
Speaker 1: I'm giving him here. Trent, How you doing, man, I'm

647
00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:39,600
Speaker 1: doing great, guys. Fun to be with both of you. Well,

648
00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:41,680
Speaker 1: we we're looking forward to this conversation. I want to

649
00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:44,200
Speaker 1: first at the top here for those they're listening to

650
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:47,120
Speaker 1: this or watching this and aren't familiar Josh Rosen's elite

651
00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:50,320
Speaker 1: eleven experience. Of anybody, I think if you pulled every

652
00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:52,400
Speaker 1: single quarterbacks coming through a lead eleven, I think you

653
00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:56,960
Speaker 1: get overwhelmingly glaring just positive reviews. But Josh Rose and

654
00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:58,960
Speaker 1: that experience wasn't great for him or you. And that

655
00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:05,120
Speaker 1: is that accurate, very accurate. Um Rear's digest version. Josh

656
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:07,480
Speaker 1: was the number one prospect in the country. I saw

657
00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:10,400
Speaker 1: a uniqueness in him, and I made the mistake of

658
00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:14,200
Speaker 1: kind of going at him too hard. Um, he wasn't

659
00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:15,880
Speaker 1: and he would tell you this why if we were

660
00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:18,560
Speaker 1: doing a converse call together, he would agree with I

661
00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:21,760
Speaker 1: think everything about to say. He didn't really want to

662
00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:24,880
Speaker 1: get coached. He he was so successful at John Bosco.

663
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:27,880
Speaker 1: He had a great offensive coordinator there that had taught

664
00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:31,520
Speaker 1: him a lot of football to that point. Um, they

665
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:34,760
Speaker 1: did things a very specific way that was successful, and

666
00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:38,440
Speaker 1: I wanted to introduce him to kind of an NFL

667
00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:41,920
Speaker 1: curriculum and bypassed the college experience because I felt he

668
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:45,680
Speaker 1: was that kind of good. Um, that was a mistake

669
00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:49,480
Speaker 1: because I coached him too hard. I was too hard

670
00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:52,120
Speaker 1: on him, and then I made some public comments about

671
00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:56,800
Speaker 1: his unwillingness to be coached that I should never have made. Uh.

672
00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:58,760
Speaker 1: And we had a lot of friction between the two

673
00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:01,760
Speaker 1: of us. He did not have a very good experience

674
00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:04,680
Speaker 1: and a very good performance. Uh. It was probably my

675
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:06,840
Speaker 1: poorest job as a coach and all my years of

676
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:09,600
Speaker 1: the lad eleven. Uh So it was not good for

677
00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:11,760
Speaker 1: you to one of us. Now, what was amazing about

678
00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:15,880
Speaker 1: Josh And really where I changed my whole outlook on

679
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:20,080
Speaker 1: Josh was last summer without me asking him, Brian Stump,

680
00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:22,360
Speaker 1: the president of Student Sports, asked him to come be

681
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:25,680
Speaker 1: a counselor for us, and he was more than willing

682
00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:28,440
Speaker 1: to be a counselor. So me and him and I

683
00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:30,760
Speaker 1: have a good relationship. Yet he chose to come to

684
00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:34,840
Speaker 1: South southern California be a counselor, helped these kids out,

685
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:39,080
Speaker 1: And while he was there really engaged with me and

686
00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:41,560
Speaker 1: and asked me to kind of go back a couple

687
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:44,360
Speaker 1: of years and reintroduce him to that stuff I was

688
00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:47,400
Speaker 1: trying to coach him on when he was seventeen. That

689
00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:50,160
Speaker 1: showed a lot of growth, showed a lot of humility,

690
00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:54,840
Speaker 1: showed a lot of maturity on him on his end. Uh,

691
00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:58,080
Speaker 1: Josh and I have a great relationship now. Um. I

692
00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:00,880
Speaker 1: think we both have recognized that we didn't handle that

693
00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:03,760
Speaker 1: Elite eleven experience very well. And I really come to

694
00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:07,400
Speaker 1: admire Josh and I understand him better too and understand

695
00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:09,920
Speaker 1: what happened in U c l A. And understand some

696
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:12,400
Speaker 1: of these narratives they're going on around him and and

697
00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:15,600
Speaker 1: why they've stuck. Uh. And I feel like I can,

698
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:20,000
Speaker 1: um really give some insight to why he's perceived one way,

699
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:23,520
Speaker 1: but in reality is something very different. Trent. Is funny

700
00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:26,880
Speaker 1: that you bring that up about Elade eleven, because as

701
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:30,160
Speaker 1: hard as you were on him as the overall coach

702
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:34,000
Speaker 1: of the Elite eleven, he was my quarterback on my team,

703
00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:36,640
Speaker 1: and I came away with the same thing I thought

704
00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:40,160
Speaker 1: at the time at seventeen. He was uncoachable, He wasn't

705
00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:43,120
Speaker 1: willing to listen. He was the most talented guy there,

706
00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:45,840
Speaker 1: but he did the least with the talent because he

707
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:49,680
Speaker 1: just wouldn't humble himself enough to learn everything. But like

708
00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:52,600
Speaker 1: last summer, I had opportunity to be around him at

709
00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:55,760
Speaker 1: that elite eleven, and he was different. He was humble,

710
00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:58,680
Speaker 1: he was outgoing, He did things that he didn't show

711
00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:01,560
Speaker 1: at seventeen. And it really changed the narrative that I

712
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:04,440
Speaker 1: had on him because I wasn't a big fan. I

713
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:06,880
Speaker 1: wasn't a big fan of his mentality and how he

714
00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:09,920
Speaker 1: went about it. But after that had a better understanding.

715
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:13,160
Speaker 1: So now spending that forward, how does that play, How

716
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:16,600
Speaker 1: does that personality, how does that thirst for knowledge that

717
00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:20,720
Speaker 1: he has? How does that play at the next level? Well,

718
00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:23,880
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be really important for Josh. Um.

719
00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:26,800
Speaker 1: I think you're gonna have to have an offensive staff

720
00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:32,320
Speaker 1: that understands him as a person uh and be willing

721
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:37,479
Speaker 1: to give him a lot of responsibility, give him a

722
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:42,440
Speaker 1: lot of um stuff to learn, but yet behind the

723
00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:46,040
Speaker 1: scenes control how much is actually used. And I know

724
00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:48,360
Speaker 1: that sounded vague, but here's what Here's what I learned

725
00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:51,280
Speaker 1: about Josh. You can't bring any weak sauce any day.

726
00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:53,600
Speaker 1: You've got to bring your a game. He expects you

727
00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:55,920
Speaker 1: to bring your a game every single day when you're

728
00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:59,640
Speaker 1: coaching him, um, and he's gonna push back if he

729
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:03,760
Speaker 1: feels like you got lazy. So every day and those

730
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:08,600
Speaker 1: often you guys can do, you know, educate the listeners

731
00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:11,200
Speaker 1: more on what that looks like. But every Tuesday, every

732
00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:15,320
Speaker 1: Monday post game, you gotta give him reasons why things

733
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:18,200
Speaker 1: happen on Sunday and then Tuesdays you're introducing the game

734
00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:21,400
Speaker 1: plan to him. You gotta give him a hy behind everything.

735
00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:25,239
Speaker 1: You gotta systematically break down where why you got to

736
00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:28,480
Speaker 1: this point and why this is the plan you're using

737
00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:31,800
Speaker 1: to face the next opponent. And then Wednesday morning the

738
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:35,560
Speaker 1: installed meetings. There are better be real reasons why versus

739
00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:38,320
Speaker 1: single high man, we're working on one sign in single

740
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:40,800
Speaker 1: high zone, we're working another side, and why we're changing

741
00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:43,880
Speaker 1: the protection versus this front, and why we're you know,

742
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:46,560
Speaker 1: I DM, this guy is the MIC and these fronts

743
00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:50,560
Speaker 1: with the safety profiles, and he needs to know everything

744
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:54,520
Speaker 1: because that's the way his mind works. Um, that's a

745
00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:57,160
Speaker 1: good thing. By the way, I think Aaron Rodgers is

746
00:33:57,240 --> 00:33:59,920
Speaker 1: very similar to that. I think Tom Brady is very

747
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:03,680
Speaker 1: similar to that. That you have to give them everything

748
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:07,120
Speaker 1: that you have because they're giving everything that they have

749
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:10,480
Speaker 1: every single day. Also, so I think that's how it

750
00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:13,840
Speaker 1: plays off. Now if he goes somewhere where these coaches

751
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:15,759
Speaker 1: are bringing the week sauce and they're just saying, hey,

752
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:18,840
Speaker 1: do it because I told you to watch out, because

753
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 1: you might have seventeen year old Josh resurface because he

754
00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:26,200
Speaker 1: needs he needs more than that last question for me, Trent,

755
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:28,640
Speaker 1: I want to ask you to play uh a little

756
00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:31,640
Speaker 1: bit of the psychologist here. Josh is coming out of

757
00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:34,520
Speaker 1: high school, number one recruit. He he is absolutely the man.

758
00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:37,160
Speaker 1: The expectations are what they are. Do you think I've

759
00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:38,920
Speaker 1: talked with Bucky about this a little bit on and

760
00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:41,880
Speaker 1: off the year. I almost thank him coming in and

761
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:45,160
Speaker 1: maybe potentially being the fourth quarterback drafted, maybe of all

762
00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:48,120
Speaker 1: these quarterbacks. He slides down a little bit that that

763
00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:50,879
Speaker 1: could be the best thing that ever happened to Josh Roseen.

764
00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:53,239
Speaker 1: He gets for the first time in his life and

765
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:57,719
Speaker 1: in any facet, he gets to actually be the underdog. Yeah.

766
00:34:57,840 --> 00:34:59,440
Speaker 1: I think there's something too, and I want all these

767
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:01,319
Speaker 1: kids to go first and make as much money as

768
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:06,719
Speaker 1: if as we can. But I agree that Aaron Rodgers scenario. Um,

769
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:09,440
Speaker 1: I mean, Aaron still this day has a chip on

770
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:12,040
Speaker 1: his shoulder about sliding on that draft board. He felt

771
00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 1: he should have been the first pick of the draft

772
00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:17,120
Speaker 1: that year of the forty niners um, and I think

773
00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:20,680
Speaker 1: that has helped drive him and that chip that on

774
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:24,600
Speaker 1: Renus that's part of his game has what is part

775
00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:28,000
Speaker 1: of what's made him, you know, so great. I think

776
00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:32,279
Speaker 1: the same psychology could work to Josh's favor. That if

777
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:34,839
Speaker 1: he drops down the board, if he goes somewhere where

778
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:37,879
Speaker 1: he believes is lower than he should go, that, yeah,

779
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:40,360
Speaker 1: he's that type of personality that will use that for

780
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:43,919
Speaker 1: that fuel. Because again, and all this conversation, I hope

781
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:47,760
Speaker 1: you guys hit this all the time. It's a hard journey.

782
00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:51,000
Speaker 1: It is really really hard to play quarterback in the

783
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:53,440
Speaker 1: National Football League and then then to be really good.

784
00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:57,439
Speaker 1: And you need all the motivation, you need all the

785
00:35:57,480 --> 00:36:01,560
Speaker 1: tools you can possibly find to wake you up on

786
00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:05,560
Speaker 1: a Wednesday morning after a four interception game the week

787
00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:07,720
Speaker 1: before and the walk in that locker room with fifty

788
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:10,080
Speaker 1: two other eyeballs looking at you as you're the reason

789
00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:12,279
Speaker 1: we lost this game and how are you going to

790
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:15,520
Speaker 1: fix it? You need everything, And I think the more

791
00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:18,920
Speaker 1: little things you can pull out that help motivate you,

792
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:21,200
Speaker 1: help inspire you, the better. And I agree with you

793
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:24,440
Speaker 1: DJ that if he does drop that's something that Josh

794
00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:27,120
Speaker 1: Rosen would use. Hey, Trent, we know you're busy, man,

795
00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:29,359
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for taking some time. We could

796
00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:32,480
Speaker 1: do this for another hour and a half. Easy. Always

797
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:34,360
Speaker 1: fun to be at you guys, all right, Black, I

798
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:37,360
Speaker 1: could talk to Trent, you know, for hours on these quarterbacks.

799
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:40,680
Speaker 1: Great insight there on Josh Rosen now, tremendous insight and perspective.

800
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:43,680
Speaker 1: It shows how far Josh Rosen has come as a

801
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:46,680
Speaker 1: player and as a person. Uh, to make amends with

802
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:49,640
Speaker 1: Trent Dilfer after that rough experience at a LAD eleven.

803
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:51,640
Speaker 1: I think it speks volumes about who he is and

804
00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:53,239
Speaker 1: who he could become at the next level. And I

805
00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:54,839
Speaker 1: think you definitely look at the trend line a lot

806
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:56,640
Speaker 1: of times. To talk about the trend line with talent,

807
00:36:57,080 --> 00:36:59,600
Speaker 1: I almost look at the trend line with personality there

808
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:02,719
Speaker 1: which sht rows and trending up. Uh. Definitely. Uh. You've

809
00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:04,880
Speaker 1: seen some growth their maturity in Josh Rosen over the

810
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:06,600
Speaker 1: last couple of years. So that was great insight there

811
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:09,399
Speaker 1: from Trent Dilford. All right, let's let's get you steal

812
00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:12,560
Speaker 1: a super fan on here. Our colleague Maurice Jones drew

813
00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:15,960
Speaker 1: interesting perspective, there is one of the best players and

814
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:18,040
Speaker 1: you still a history. Let's get his thoughts on the

815
00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:22,040
Speaker 1: U c l A quarterback Josh Rosen. Josh Rosen, why

816
00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:23,319
Speaker 1: why do you think he's Why do you think he's

817
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:25,360
Speaker 1: the best quarterback in the draft? Now you can't just

818
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:26,840
Speaker 1: say because you went there. No, no, not, and not

819
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:28,520
Speaker 1: at all. It has nothing to do with that. I

820
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:30,640
Speaker 1: talked with Bucky about this all the time because we

821
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 1: do the high schooling all the seventh thing, and and

822
00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:35,520
Speaker 1: my high school football team has been one of the

823
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:38,360
Speaker 1: most dominant football teams in the country for for a

824
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:41,440
Speaker 1: long time. And a couple of days yesterday we had

825
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:44,000
Speaker 1: a guy here was it Armand's st Brown And when

826
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:46,000
Speaker 1: I checked his head, Almen Ross Brown. Yeah, I'm I say,

827
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:49,160
Speaker 1: you know what respect as you respected the head out

828
00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:50,760
Speaker 1: of my high school team, Like that's what we weren't

829
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:52,759
Speaker 1: wanna do that to other people. So, uh, it goes

830
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:54,440
Speaker 1: back to that with Josh Rosen. When they played in

831
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:56,160
Speaker 1: my high school and I think he put up like

832
00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:58,319
Speaker 1: sixty or seventy and it wasn't even close. I mean,

833
00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:00,920
Speaker 1: they blew him out and it wasn't as if it

834
00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:02,600
Speaker 1: was like he never took his foot off the gas

835
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:04,239
Speaker 1: and and so I was like, wow, like this kid

836
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:06,200
Speaker 1: is really good. Now so happened. He ends up going

837
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:07,880
Speaker 1: to my alma mater. I follow my love them. But

838
00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:10,720
Speaker 1: the story is behind some things he's done. Um. Always

839
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:12,200
Speaker 1: being in the limelight, I think is a big thing

840
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:15,239
Speaker 1: for quarterbacks, being able to handle the pressure. UM being

841
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:16,839
Speaker 1: in l A before there was an l A team

842
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:18,320
Speaker 1: and being the guy in l A before there was

843
00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:20,480
Speaker 1: an l A team, all that scrutiny that came with

844
00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:22,120
Speaker 1: any handled it will and I think that allot of

845
00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:24,759
Speaker 1: that plays part into football, where you're gonna be go

846
00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:27,879
Speaker 1: to a team if you're drafting the top five one,

847
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:30,880
Speaker 1: whatever it may be. If you can't handle the pressure

848
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:32,799
Speaker 1: of being a top five pick or a number one

849
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:34,920
Speaker 1: overall pick, you're not gonna make it. And we saw that.

850
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:38,160
Speaker 1: We've seen that with Ryan Leaf, I've seen that with

851
00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:41,440
Speaker 1: some quarterbacks like Marcus Russell to Marcus Russell. We've seen

852
00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:43,920
Speaker 1: it with the kid out of Washington that just retired

853
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:48,799
Speaker 1: on Tennessee. If you can't handle that pressure, you won't

854
00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:50,440
Speaker 1: you won't perform, you won't be able to perform. So

855
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:52,880
Speaker 1: I think this some of the things that people are

856
00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:57,279
Speaker 1: knocking for are actually positives, right, Uh, being a top

857
00:38:57,360 --> 00:38:59,160
Speaker 1: tennis player and his having that money to be able

858
00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:01,320
Speaker 1: to perform and front of millions of people, and some

859
00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:03,480
Speaker 1: of these things that he's done that's gonna help him

860
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:06,839
Speaker 1: for football. I think being smart it's gonna help him

861
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:09,239
Speaker 1: for football. I've never met a quarterback that wasn't smart.

862
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:11,719
Speaker 1: That's not a good quarterback. Right, And so I think

863
00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:13,800
Speaker 1: a lot of people, um, and these are all the

864
00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:15,319
Speaker 1: things that they're saying bad about it. I've never heard

865
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:17,640
Speaker 1: someone say he can't throw the ball. I never heard

866
00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:20,759
Speaker 1: anyone say he can't read defenses. I've never heard anyone say. Uh.

867
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:22,359
Speaker 1: People say he's not a good leader. When you talk

868
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:24,200
Speaker 1: to the kids in that locker room, he is a

869
00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:26,560
Speaker 1: good leader people. Some people say he's not a good person. Well,

870
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:28,960
Speaker 1: you know, granted I'm a little bit different, but when

871
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:30,600
Speaker 1: my boys came, I was a little nervous. When I

872
00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:32,440
Speaker 1: first met him with my kids, I was I was

873
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:34,480
Speaker 1: actually really nervous because I've heard I heard some of

874
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:36,279
Speaker 1: the rumors about him, and I was like, oh, man,

875
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:38,520
Speaker 1: I hope he doesn't say anything to my kids. You know,

876
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:40,200
Speaker 1: the old man is gonna have to come out and

877
00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:43,359
Speaker 1: he was more than excited to meet my kids. Gave

878
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:45,640
Speaker 1: him a football, took him in the locker room. I

879
00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:48,560
Speaker 1: mean at practice. He was cool with him, um, and

880
00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:50,440
Speaker 1: I've seen him do that with other people's children as

881
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:53,160
Speaker 1: well and other players. I think him speaking out on

882
00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:54,759
Speaker 1: the n C double A, it's a it's a good thing.

883
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:57,040
Speaker 1: It's not a bad thing. He has players in his

884
00:39:57,160 --> 00:39:59,160
Speaker 1: locker room that can't speak, they don't have a voice,

885
00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:02,640
Speaker 1: so he's telling people their story. I don't think that's wrong.

886
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:05,400
Speaker 1: I think that's positive. And so I know in this

887
00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:09,080
Speaker 1: process a lot of people say, you know, uh gets

888
00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:10,680
Speaker 1: towards the end, people started, like in the middle of

889
00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:13,120
Speaker 1: the people start trying to knock players down as much

890
00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:15,200
Speaker 1: as they can. The one thing I've never heard anyone

891
00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:18,000
Speaker 1: says he can't play football, And to me, that tells

892
00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:19,880
Speaker 1: me he's the best quarterback in the draft. That everyone

893
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:21,880
Speaker 1: else we've heard negative stuff about what they do on

894
00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:24,600
Speaker 1: the football field, if it's turnovers, if it's you know,

895
00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:27,239
Speaker 1: not making great decisions, if it's his arm strength of

896
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:31,320
Speaker 1: its accuracy, if it's understanding football, everyone but him that

897
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:32,839
Speaker 1: you don't hear that all you hear your stuff off

898
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:35,040
Speaker 1: the field. So to me, I think, you know, if

899
00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:37,080
Speaker 1: you take this young man, you understand what you're getting.

900
00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:38,719
Speaker 1: You have to be a confident coach. So I know

901
00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:40,799
Speaker 1: this is gonna be hard for you because loving eyes

902
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:45,279
Speaker 1: can never see on the field. What would be your

903
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:48,719
Speaker 1: biggest knock on? Josh Rosen and his game injuries gets

904
00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:51,120
Speaker 1: hurt all the time. That's what I mean. Availability, I

905
00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:53,239
Speaker 1: think is the biggest thing to me with him. UM.

906
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:56,399
Speaker 1: I do believe sometimes he tries to fit the ball

907
00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:59,279
Speaker 1: into certain places, but I think everyone does that. I

908
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:01,919
Speaker 1: mean the save as Tom Brady makes, those those those

909
00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:04,239
Speaker 1: problems as long as Ryan Tannehill. I mean, you just

910
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:07,279
Speaker 1: have to work with that becomes consistency. Uh. For me though,

911
00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:09,799
Speaker 1: it's you know, the concussions a couple of years ago,

912
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:13,200
Speaker 1: the shoulder injury or whatever it may be. Um, those

913
00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:15,760
Speaker 1: are concerning issues for me. But if I'm a GM

914
00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:17,160
Speaker 1: and I know I have a talent like that, it's

915
00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:19,800
Speaker 1: my job to protect him, put pieces around and protect

916
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:21,560
Speaker 1: him to make sure that he could play at a

917
00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:25,400
Speaker 1: high level. Um And I'm biased, I I'm biased. I

918
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:26,839
Speaker 1: told you guys that from the very beginning he went

919
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:29,279
Speaker 1: to U C. L. I I I feel like you said,

920
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:31,520
Speaker 1: I love him as a player more than others will.

921
00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:34,520
Speaker 1: I think when you hear Jim Morris speak, um, a

922
00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:36,040
Speaker 1: lot of people say that as negative. We have to

923
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:39,240
Speaker 1: remember he's Jim Moore's neighbor, so he knows more about

924
00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:42,560
Speaker 1: Josh Rosen than any other coach, any other person will

925
00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:45,040
Speaker 1: because they're in the same community. That's like me living

926
00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:47,400
Speaker 1: next to someone saying like, well, I wouldn't take that

927
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:49,000
Speaker 1: kid because he does this, this, and this at night

928
00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:51,239
Speaker 1: or he's up late doing like well, no, no one

929
00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:53,279
Speaker 1: really know that if you don't live next door to him,

930
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:56,040
Speaker 1: So you have a different and a more a different

931
00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:58,799
Speaker 1: view and h insight on what Josh Rosen is as

932
00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:01,440
Speaker 1: a person. So I I think, Um, you know, what

933
00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:04,000
Speaker 1: Jim has done is really open the doors for people

934
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:06,359
Speaker 1: to ask questions. I thought he's handled those questions really well.

935
00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:10,840
Speaker 1: How do you lose in Memphis? I mean there's a

936
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:12,640
Speaker 1: lot of things that why how you lose in Memphis?

937
00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:15,160
Speaker 1: First of all, you don't stop anybody on defense. That

938
00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:17,560
Speaker 1: that's that's the rule. Number one, bunch points give up.

939
00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:20,560
Speaker 1: But you can't score forty something points and lose all

940
00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:22,080
Speaker 1: the time, and that and that's similar what they do.

941
00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:23,840
Speaker 1: Can't turn the ball over either. You can't turn the

942
00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:25,359
Speaker 1: ball over. He turned what he threw two pick six

943
00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:27,160
Speaker 1: is I think in that game, trying to fit it

944
00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:28,680
Speaker 1: in at the end. I know he had the one

945
00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:30,319
Speaker 1: at the end. It's kind of like it's it's kind

946
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:31,600
Speaker 1: of like the you know, the player that they do

947
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:33,000
Speaker 1: at the end of every game. I'm part of Hi,

948
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:34,680
Speaker 1: I'm on the bloopers where you're just trying to toss

949
00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:36,399
Speaker 1: the ball to keep it going and then they pick

950
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:38,040
Speaker 1: it up and scoop and score. And that's the point.

951
00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:39,319
Speaker 1: I mean, I feel like that was the last one.

952
00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:40,520
Speaker 1: He's just trying to fit the ball in there and

953
00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:42,040
Speaker 1: make a play and the guy makes a great play

954
00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:45,040
Speaker 1: and picks it off. Um, but you lose to Memphis

955
00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:49,560
Speaker 1: one because the Arizona forty seven or thirty throw no touchdowns,

956
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:53,240
Speaker 1: three picks Arizona. I'll give you a great reason about Arizona.

957
00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:57,440
Speaker 1: Arizona's running quarterback was unreal and he jumped on him.

958
00:42:57,640 --> 00:43:00,799
Speaker 1: He jumped on them fast. It wasn't And so you're

959
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:02,560
Speaker 1: back slinging and trying to get back and guess he's

960
00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:04,640
Speaker 1: had bad games and I think, I mean, you're gonna look,

961
00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:06,480
Speaker 1: you're gonna put as a whole, You're gonna put it

962
00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:08,560
Speaker 1: back there. But look at the players around him as well.

963
00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:10,319
Speaker 1: I mean, they were trying to get players around him,

964
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:12,279
Speaker 1: but they never could and I think that's a big issue.

965
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:13,799
Speaker 1: And the guys that they did get around them at

966
00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:15,560
Speaker 1: that point and they may pan out this year with Chip,

967
00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:17,440
Speaker 1: I don't know. But then whatever systems they were in,

968
00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:20,440
Speaker 1: they weren't excelling at those and so those are issues.

969
00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:24,000
Speaker 1: And so you're obviously close. With one of his former

970
00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:27,120
Speaker 1: offensive coordinators, Kennedy pola Um, there was more of a

971
00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:29,359
Speaker 1: pro style offense. He had a unique challenge of going

972
00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:33,040
Speaker 1: to three different offensive systems that he played under. What

973
00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:34,520
Speaker 1: did you see from him when he had tod just

974
00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:38,160
Speaker 1: and change each and every year. I didn't see so.

975
00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:40,239
Speaker 1: First with Kennedy Polo, that was a texting and him

976
00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:42,240
Speaker 1: game where they were in texting him and they should

977
00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:45,120
Speaker 1: have beat him. Um, they had a couple of passes dropped,

978
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:47,400
Speaker 1: but you didn't see a slow start from him. That

979
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:50,520
Speaker 1: was the Miles Garrett game. It was against UH at

980
00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:53,960
Speaker 1: the time, they had left tackle McDermott and that was

981
00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:56,040
Speaker 1: supposed to be that That was that was like, all right,

982
00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:57,640
Speaker 1: this is the best ding. You' supposed to be one

983
00:43:57,640 --> 00:43:59,439
Speaker 1: of the top tackles. How do you perform? He didn't

984
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:01,440
Speaker 1: do well, did well from it, didn't in well. Um,

985
00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:03,560
Speaker 1: but Rosen has some bad throws there, but he led

986
00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:06,279
Speaker 1: him back and I and and each and everyone, Even

987
00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:09,919
Speaker 1: with jet Fish and even with uh NOA Mazzoni, he's

988
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:12,520
Speaker 1: always started fast. It's never been an issue of him

989
00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:15,920
Speaker 1: understanding what they're doing in three different systems. Um. When

990
00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:17,920
Speaker 1: I talked to Kenny Pole about it, the question why

991
00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:21,560
Speaker 1: comes up? Right. He always asks why? Why? Why? Why

992
00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:24,239
Speaker 1: are we doing this? Why? Why on stick which is

993
00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:25,680
Speaker 1: a two ounce and a go and the running backs

994
00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:27,239
Speaker 1: running to go, why can't I throw the running back

995
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:30,800
Speaker 1: the ball? And most coordinators is gonna say because I

996
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:32,600
Speaker 1: don't want you to. But the real reason is you

997
00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:34,120
Speaker 1: only throw it to him when there's a linebacker on

998
00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:35,960
Speaker 1: or someone you think he can beat. And then and

999
00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:38,759
Speaker 1: and if if it's a corner out there, that eliminates

1000
00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:40,400
Speaker 1: the rules. So you have to explain. You have to

1001
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:42,319
Speaker 1: become a teacher and coach polo. That's one of thing

1002
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:43,719
Speaker 1: we talked about. He's like, you have to teach more

1003
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:45,520
Speaker 1: with him and it's hard for a lot of people

1004
00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:47,439
Speaker 1: to do that, and especially when you're trying to teach,

1005
00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:49,440
Speaker 1: you know, you're trying to get everybody else in the

1006
00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:51,360
Speaker 1: same page. He's asking these questions that are kind of

1007
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:55,000
Speaker 1: over other kid's head. So um, like I said, I'm

1008
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:57,840
Speaker 1: a big fan of anyone that's been successful or somewhach

1009
00:44:57,880 --> 00:45:00,400
Speaker 1: he said, when three different systems, if it's the spread system,

1010
00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:02,080
Speaker 1: if his jet fish is Pro style that I played

1011
00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:04,800
Speaker 1: it in Jacksonville, or if it's Kendie Polo's system that

1012
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:07,759
Speaker 1: I played in Jacksonville as well. I mean, he did

1013
00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:10,279
Speaker 1: a really good job of being able to turn his

1014
00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:12,400
Speaker 1: back to the defense. We don't see kids do that anymore,

1015
00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:14,560
Speaker 1: turn his back to the defense and then be able

1016
00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:17,960
Speaker 1: to identify where the coverage is and where to go.

1017
00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:21,239
Speaker 1: So I'm a huge fan. Like, I just really feel

1018
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:24,479
Speaker 1: like some people, some players aren't gonna like him because

1019
00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:26,640
Speaker 1: he doesn't have the arms strength to throw through weather

1020
00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:29,920
Speaker 1: and I don't know what that means, Like if you

1021
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:33,520
Speaker 1: throw on time, you're finding me breaking news there. Buck

1022
00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:35,400
Speaker 1: Rice Jones Shrew is high on the U c L

1023
00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:38,000
Speaker 1: a quarterback. I mean, he loves himself. Some Bruins but look,

1024
00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:41,240
Speaker 1: I understand. Look, the guy is the best quarterback outside

1025
00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:44,240
Speaker 1: of true eigments to ever play there. And so Marice

1026
00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:46,960
Speaker 1: Jones Drew holds him in high regard, and I think

1027
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:49,440
Speaker 1: some of that is warranted. Um, I think he's a

1028
00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:51,279
Speaker 1: little over the top. But we'll see. Maybe I would

1029
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:53,680
Speaker 1: love a garget now. I don't remember you love it

1030
00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:56,320
Speaker 1: Mitchell Dubisky this much last year. No, it's a little different,

1031
00:45:56,600 --> 00:45:59,520
Speaker 1: different Liketch like Mitch, Mitch Mitchell. Do we know that yet?

1032
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:02,800
Speaker 1: That's still TBD. How about some teammates of Josh Rosen.

1033
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:04,600
Speaker 1: How about a chance to talk with them and see

1034
00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:06,600
Speaker 1: what they have to say about the brewing signal Calor

1035
00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:09,200
Speaker 1: let's start here our conversation with U c l a

1036
00:46:09,239 --> 00:46:13,120
Speaker 1: wide receiver. Jordan. Lastly, tell us a story. Now, the

1037
00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:16,359
Speaker 1: first time that you you caught a ball from Josh

1038
00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:18,440
Speaker 1: Rosen on the practice fielder whenever it was, and what

1039
00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:21,960
Speaker 1: your impression? Your first impression was him just as a passer. Yeah,

1040
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:24,400
Speaker 1: so my first impression of Josh actually came in uh

1041
00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:28,279
Speaker 1: in high school, before college. Um. Uh, first time I

1042
00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:30,560
Speaker 1: had eyes on jobs is probably he was in the

1043
00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:32,080
Speaker 1: nine grade. I was in a ten grade and I mean,

1044
00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:34,080
Speaker 1: you're older than he and we were playing on the

1045
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:36,279
Speaker 1: same seven on seven team and we were actually throwing

1046
00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:40,640
Speaker 1: at Dlamo Park in carson Um. So the first time

1047
00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:42,040
Speaker 1: I've ever seen him throw a ball or in a

1048
00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:45,120
Speaker 1: post route. Uh probably probably that same post right there.

1049
00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:47,000
Speaker 1: We ran on Pro Day, so we've been running that

1050
00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:49,840
Speaker 1: for a year. Uh. So he he, he threw the

1051
00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:52,959
Speaker 1: ball and I wasn't really running that fast because I thought,

1052
00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:54,480
Speaker 1: you know, I didn't think that he was going to

1053
00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:57,600
Speaker 1: get the ball that far, so I actually ran, you know,

1054
00:46:57,640 --> 00:47:00,839
Speaker 1: I was probably running about seventy speed. Josh ended up

1055
00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:02,440
Speaker 1: throwing the ball and I had to I had to

1056
00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:04,200
Speaker 1: start running for it. Once I've seen the balls in

1057
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:07,000
Speaker 1: the air, and we had started on maybe the fifty

1058
00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:08,839
Speaker 1: yard line and he put it right on, like right

1059
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:11,200
Speaker 1: inside the five for me to score a touchdown. So

1060
00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:13,600
Speaker 1: that's the first time I've seen Josh throw the ball

1061
00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:15,440
Speaker 1: and I've seen how much arm telling that he had.

1062
00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:17,600
Speaker 1: And he was only maybe fourteen or fifteen years old

1063
00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:20,239
Speaker 1: at the time, So my first impression was like, Wow,

1064
00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:23,520
Speaker 1: he's gonna be great. Uh, he's driven. He was really

1065
00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:26,880
Speaker 1: quiet at first. Surprisingly, um people thinking Josh is this

1066
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:29,480
Speaker 1: big talking to guy. Now he didn't. He never used

1067
00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:32,080
Speaker 1: to say anything. Um, that was the Josh. That was

1068
00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:33,800
Speaker 1: the Josh that was quiet, That was a Josh that

1069
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:36,520
Speaker 1: was that was a different Josh. I would say, Um,

1070
00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:40,239
Speaker 1: now he's now, he's everything. He's you know, he's put it,

1071
00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:42,160
Speaker 1: he's put it all together. He's been working so hard

1072
00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:44,000
Speaker 1: for all of these years. And you know he's been

1073
00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:45,840
Speaker 1: number one for a really long time. So it's no

1074
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:48,279
Speaker 1: surprise to me, you know, speaking of that, because he

1075
00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:50,800
Speaker 1: has always been the number one guy, the number one quarterback.

1076
00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:53,520
Speaker 1: He had to carry all of that hype and wait

1077
00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:55,480
Speaker 1: when he came to u c l A. What was

1078
00:47:55,560 --> 00:47:58,239
Speaker 1: he like as a leader when he got to u

1079
00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:02,400
Speaker 1: c l A. Josh as a leader, Josh is a

1080
00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:04,480
Speaker 1: born leader. I always say he came in as a

1081
00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:08,200
Speaker 1: true freshman. I think he threw for the freshman thirty

1082
00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:12,640
Speaker 1: five touchdowns and maybe like nine or ten interceptions, and um,

1083
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:15,640
Speaker 1: you know, obviously want packel of officsive thlirty year and

1084
00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:18,320
Speaker 1: stuff like that. But as a leader, Josh was you know,

1085
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:20,799
Speaker 1: he worked really hard. He wants he wants to be great,

1086
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:23,200
Speaker 1: he wants to be the best, and I'm proud of

1087
00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:25,320
Speaker 1: him for saying that Tom Brady quote. He wants to

1088
00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:28,160
Speaker 1: you know, if tom Brady gets seven, he'll probably get seven.

1089
00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:30,520
Speaker 1: Or if tom Brady gets six, he'll get you know,

1090
00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:33,320
Speaker 1: he'll get seven. That's that's that just speaks to the

1091
00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:35,799
Speaker 1: competitor he is. And um, he doesn't have to really

1092
00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:38,200
Speaker 1: say too much to show how much of a competitor

1093
00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:40,000
Speaker 1: he is, because me being a guy in the huddle

1094
00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:42,520
Speaker 1: with him, you know, it tells every It tells it

1095
00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:44,200
Speaker 1: all for me. Um, it tells me how much he

1096
00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:47,319
Speaker 1: wants to win. I've seen him get hit, get hit

1097
00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:49,600
Speaker 1: in the middle of the play and he gets up

1098
00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:51,640
Speaker 1: his nose is bleeding. Um. I think it was against

1099
00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:54,440
Speaker 1: Arizona stage his nose is bleeding. Uh. And you know

1100
00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:56,120
Speaker 1: he didn't want to come out of the game. Um.

1101
00:48:56,320 --> 00:48:58,000
Speaker 1: You know, obviously in college you're not supposed to have,

1102
00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:00,320
Speaker 1: you know, any blood showing on your jersey anything like that.

1103
00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:02,880
Speaker 1: Josh refused to come out of the game. And I

1104
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:04,960
Speaker 1: think the next maybe in the next two players, you

1105
00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:08,120
Speaker 1: threw another touchdown. So that that I mean, in that

1106
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:11,360
Speaker 1: in in that aspect and in that kind of environment,

1107
00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:13,960
Speaker 1: Josh just showed me how tough he is. His mindset

1108
00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:16,399
Speaker 1: and his will to win and his his leadership skills

1109
00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:19,520
Speaker 1: are infectious. Uh. He makes everybody else, you know, hold

1110
00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:22,920
Speaker 1: themselves accountable, especially me. Uh you know, you know, being

1111
00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:25,040
Speaker 1: his receiver in college, I felt like I was even

1112
00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:27,279
Speaker 1: more accountable than he was, just because you know, he

1113
00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:29,320
Speaker 1: wanted me to be there. He wanted me to be

1114
00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:33,560
Speaker 1: right there for him. So um josh. His presence, his presence,

1115
00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:35,359
Speaker 1: like just being in the locker room with him makes

1116
00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:37,120
Speaker 1: you want to be better because you know he's going

1117
00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:39,480
Speaker 1: to bring his absolute best every single day. All I

1118
00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:42,320
Speaker 1: want to go back to one specific play against Texas,

1119
00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:44,319
Speaker 1: say and them is an epic game there to start

1120
00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:46,719
Speaker 1: the season, and you know where I'm going with this. Uh,

1121
00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:49,600
Speaker 1: it's the game winning touchdown there late in the game,

1122
00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:52,279
Speaker 1: and it's actually old school fake spike. It's the old

1123
00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:55,200
Speaker 1: damn Marino fake spike and then you slip coverage and

1124
00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:57,040
Speaker 1: he hits you. I want to know, did you guys

1125
00:49:57,280 --> 00:49:59,800
Speaker 1: have you practiced that? And what was like what was

1126
00:49:59,880 --> 00:50:02,120
Speaker 1: the communication? Like the whole coaching staff's gone now, so

1127
00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:04,560
Speaker 1: you don't it's you're not sharing secrets, but what was it?

1128
00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:07,080
Speaker 1: What was the signal? What was the signal to make

1129
00:50:07,160 --> 00:50:09,080
Speaker 1: it happen, and just tell me about that communication that

1130
00:50:09,120 --> 00:50:12,959
Speaker 1: went on in that game winning play. Uh So that game,

1131
00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:16,120
Speaker 1: obviously we were down four or five touchdowns that you

1132
00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:18,120
Speaker 1: know a half time, so we knew coming out that

1133
00:50:18,200 --> 00:50:20,680
Speaker 1: we couldn't make any mistakes and we were gonna have

1134
00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:24,439
Speaker 1: to be flawless offensively and defensively just for off their

1135
00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:26,239
Speaker 1: offense to not score any more points and for us

1136
00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:29,080
Speaker 1: to keep scoring points. So um, that sequence, it was

1137
00:50:29,080 --> 00:50:32,560
Speaker 1: actually funny. Two plays before that, before that touchdown, I

1138
00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:34,719
Speaker 1: actually dropped a hitch on third and five or third

1139
00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:37,160
Speaker 1: and six, and we really needed it, um, so it

1140
00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:40,000
Speaker 1: went right through my hands. Uh so so to my bar,

1141
00:50:40,080 --> 00:50:42,120
Speaker 1: I started running back, ended up saving my blood on

1142
00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:44,200
Speaker 1: that and getting getting us the first down on fourth

1143
00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:47,640
Speaker 1: on fourth and five after my bone head dropped. And

1144
00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:51,120
Speaker 1: uh that that that that fake spike play was. You know,

1145
00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:52,840
Speaker 1: it was kind of like one of our players that

1146
00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:55,279
Speaker 1: that you know, we'll we'll call right after our first down,

1147
00:50:55,719 --> 00:50:58,640
Speaker 1: you know, right after the defense doesn't really expected that

1148
00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:00,480
Speaker 1: type of thing. So it was that to something that

1149
00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:03,719
Speaker 1: we practiced all through training camp. It was a part

1150
00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:06,359
Speaker 1: of our two minutes real um. Coach Moore and coach

1151
00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:09,440
Speaker 1: Jack Fish uh got us. You know, they were really

1152
00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:12,400
Speaker 1: good at getting us in a game game like situations,

1153
00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:15,439
Speaker 1: and um so we we had practiced, had plenty of times,

1154
00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:18,040
Speaker 1: plenty of times, plenty of times, and uh so it

1155
00:51:18,120 --> 00:51:19,759
Speaker 1: came up. It came to service in the game. And

1156
00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:21,400
Speaker 1: in practice we would always do it at the end

1157
00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:23,400
Speaker 1: of two minute, like the end of practice. Everybody was

1158
00:51:23,480 --> 00:51:26,759
Speaker 1: dog dead tired. And it actually paid dividends in the game.

1159
00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:29,320
Speaker 1: So we had just got the first down, you know,

1160
00:51:29,560 --> 00:51:32,000
Speaker 1: Josh looks at me and he goes like this, this

1161
00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:35,239
Speaker 1: is our our clock. So that that we called it.

1162
00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:36,759
Speaker 1: It was it was it was our it was our clock,

1163
00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:39,520
Speaker 1: our plot call. So Josh goes clock clock, clock, clock, clock,

1164
00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:42,240
Speaker 1: and it gives me that look like hey, like, dude,

1165
00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:44,759
Speaker 1: catch this one, you know, because I'm gonna put this

1166
00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:46,440
Speaker 1: one in the right spot, so you better catch it

1167
00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:48,560
Speaker 1: or you know that it's gonna be being you after

1168
00:51:48,760 --> 00:51:51,960
Speaker 1: after the camp. So I looked at him. I just

1169
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:54,000
Speaker 1: gave him that not like go ahead, you know, I'm

1170
00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:56,359
Speaker 1: ready when you are. And luckily, um we had ran

1171
00:51:56,440 --> 00:51:58,520
Speaker 1: the clock the clock play and I was the only

1172
00:51:58,600 --> 00:52:00,640
Speaker 1: one that actually ran the road. None of other receivers

1173
00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:03,040
Speaker 1: ended up running a rout. So that just tells you

1174
00:52:03,160 --> 00:52:05,560
Speaker 1: how you know that that that that quarterback and receiver

1175
00:52:05,719 --> 00:52:08,400
Speaker 1: trust is there at all times. And Josh, you know,

1176
00:52:08,520 --> 00:52:10,640
Speaker 1: Josh gave me a ball and uh, you know the

1177
00:52:10,719 --> 00:52:13,400
Speaker 1: dB you know, luckily for me that wasn't really expecting

1178
00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:15,839
Speaker 1: it as we expected as an offense, and Josh gave

1179
00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:17,279
Speaker 1: me a good ball to you know, make a play

1180
00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:20,120
Speaker 1: on it. You know, it's probably my probably my favorite catch,

1181
00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:23,400
Speaker 1: um of all of all the catches I've ever had

1182
00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:26,440
Speaker 1: in my life. In three years from now, your quarterback

1183
00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:30,000
Speaker 1: Josh Rosen is gonna be what Josh rows in he

1184
00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:32,799
Speaker 1: in three years, He's gonna be a guy man. He's

1185
00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:35,960
Speaker 1: probably gonna be already thrown from I'm guessing over ten

1186
00:52:36,040 --> 00:52:39,640
Speaker 1: thousand yards in his first three years. I'm gonna say

1187
00:52:39,680 --> 00:52:44,480
Speaker 1: he's gonna have at least at twenty uh touchdown touchdown

1188
00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:48,560
Speaker 1: number every year. I would say, Um, Josh Scholz is

1189
00:52:48,600 --> 00:52:50,480
Speaker 1: going to be a guy no matter what team he's on,

1190
00:52:50,920 --> 00:52:53,920
Speaker 1: He's gonna make everybody around him better. He's gonna he's

1191
00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:57,000
Speaker 1: gonna demand that you're that that you're gonna bring your

1192
00:52:57,040 --> 00:53:01,000
Speaker 1: best absolutely every single day. Especially with his receivers. Josh

1193
00:53:01,040 --> 00:53:03,560
Speaker 1: doesn't play around with his receivers. He's gonna bring a

1194
00:53:03,640 --> 00:53:06,480
Speaker 1: whole new attitude and a whole new I would say,

1195
00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:09,320
Speaker 1: aura to an offense, just just off his preparation and

1196
00:53:09,400 --> 00:53:12,480
Speaker 1: just off how much he wants to win. Um. Depending

1197
00:53:12,520 --> 00:53:14,799
Speaker 1: on who that team is, that Josh you know, gets

1198
00:53:14,840 --> 00:53:16,759
Speaker 1: picked to that that team can easily be in the

1199
00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:20,640
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. Um that that Josh is a guy. He's

1200
00:53:20,680 --> 00:53:23,240
Speaker 1: used to winning. UM. He's when he's in high school.

1201
00:53:23,239 --> 00:53:26,520
Speaker 1: He's a sixteen and old national champion, champion and uh

1202
00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:30,000
Speaker 1: at St. John Bosco out here in California. And I

1203
00:53:30,120 --> 00:53:31,960
Speaker 1: just think, I just think he's gonna bring a winning,

1204
00:53:32,040 --> 00:53:36,279
Speaker 1: an infectious attitude to the entire team. And he's such

1205
00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:38,680
Speaker 1: he like he's he's only twenty or twenty one years old,

1206
00:53:38,719 --> 00:53:40,839
Speaker 1: but he's he's he's a man among his years. If

1207
00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:42,400
Speaker 1: you sit up and talk to Josh, you see how

1208
00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:45,440
Speaker 1: mature he is, how much substance he has when he's

1209
00:53:45,520 --> 00:53:47,880
Speaker 1: when he speaks to people, and how much he actually

1210
00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:50,480
Speaker 1: cares about his teammates. He really loves this man, and

1211
00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:52,880
Speaker 1: any any of those any of those writers, or anybody

1212
00:53:52,920 --> 00:53:54,880
Speaker 1: who has anything to say about how much his teammates

1213
00:53:54,920 --> 00:53:58,080
Speaker 1: love him. We are totally and fully uh you know,

1214
00:53:58,200 --> 00:54:00,320
Speaker 1: behind Josh and we love him and we see the

1215
00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:02,839
Speaker 1: guy who he is off the field and on the field. Um,

1216
00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:05,239
Speaker 1: so that's that that that's what you'll get out of

1217
00:54:05,320 --> 00:54:07,560
Speaker 1: Josh wild in a three years. Hey, Jordan, thank you

1218
00:54:07,640 --> 00:54:10,279
Speaker 1: so much man, great answers. We've enjoyed our visit with

1219
00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:12,799
Speaker 1: you here. Wish you the best to luck in the draft.

1220
00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:14,680
Speaker 1: Can't wait to see where you land and follow in

1221
00:54:14,719 --> 00:54:17,920
Speaker 1: your future. Man, Thank you, I appreciate you guys, all right,

1222
00:54:17,960 --> 00:54:21,680
Speaker 1: take care man. Really interesting perspective there from Jordan lastly

1223
00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:24,440
Speaker 1: talking about his quarterback in Josh Rosen doesn't hide his love,

1224
00:54:24,560 --> 00:54:26,080
Speaker 1: that's for sure. No, it doesn't have his love. I

1225
00:54:26,120 --> 00:54:28,040
Speaker 1: think the thing that came out of that conversation he

1226
00:54:28,080 --> 00:54:31,600
Speaker 1: talked about the accountability, how Josh Rosen hill the teammates,

1227
00:54:31,680 --> 00:54:34,200
Speaker 1: particularly the wide receivers to a high standard, and how

1228
00:54:34,239 --> 00:54:36,480
Speaker 1: he would get on those guys and expected and demanded

1229
00:54:36,520 --> 00:54:38,840
Speaker 1: a lot from them. You know. We talked about his

1230
00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:40,800
Speaker 1: leadership and where he's a guy that can be a

1231
00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:42,960
Speaker 1: leader of men in a pro locker room. I think

1232
00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:46,440
Speaker 1: lastly kind of dispelled some of those notions. Definitely a

1233
00:54:46,520 --> 00:54:49,360
Speaker 1: big fan there of his quarterback lastly, one of the

1234
00:54:49,680 --> 00:54:52,000
Speaker 1: best deep threats in this year's draft. Will see when

1235
00:54:52,040 --> 00:54:55,160
Speaker 1: he gets drafted. Nobody knows a quarterback quite like the center.

1236
00:54:55,239 --> 00:54:57,880
Speaker 1: That's a relationship that's as close as there is in sports.

1237
00:54:58,120 --> 00:54:59,759
Speaker 1: And we got a chance to visit with U. C. L. A.

1238
00:54:59,840 --> 00:55:03,560
Speaker 1: S Inner Scott Quisenberry. What's something that maybe the people

1239
00:55:03,600 --> 00:55:05,360
Speaker 1: on the outside don't know about him that you know

1240
00:55:05,480 --> 00:55:07,400
Speaker 1: being around him, He's just a world class guy. Man.

1241
00:55:07,520 --> 00:55:09,120
Speaker 1: You know, you can spend all day with him and

1242
00:55:09,600 --> 00:55:11,239
Speaker 1: you know, just get along with him, and you know

1243
00:55:11,360 --> 00:55:14,040
Speaker 1: football might not ever come up. You know that he's

1244
00:55:14,120 --> 00:55:18,480
Speaker 1: so enamored by this the world itself, and you know,

1245
00:55:18,600 --> 00:55:21,160
Speaker 1: he has such an interesting perspective on everything, and it's

1246
00:55:21,239 --> 00:55:23,279
Speaker 1: just fun to just talk to him. He's just you know,

1247
00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:26,040
Speaker 1: he's a special guy and it's you can't really replace

1248
00:55:26,080 --> 00:55:28,640
Speaker 1: a guy like him, so it's you know, it's just

1249
00:55:28,680 --> 00:55:30,520
Speaker 1: fun to be around him. You know. It's funny because

1250
00:55:30,560 --> 00:55:33,080
Speaker 1: you talked about that, like when you lost him last year,

1251
00:55:33,120 --> 00:55:35,080
Speaker 1: how it was different for you guys when you're in

1252
00:55:35,120 --> 00:55:37,480
Speaker 1: the huddle and you have a Josh Rosen in the huddle,

1253
00:55:37,880 --> 00:55:40,920
Speaker 1: does his mere presence bring about a different level of

1254
00:55:41,040 --> 00:55:43,680
Speaker 1: confidence when it comes to we're going to win because

1255
00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:46,000
Speaker 1: our dude knows how to get us in without a doubt.

1256
00:55:46,040 --> 00:55:48,120
Speaker 1: You know, when he comes into the huddle, it's everyone

1257
00:55:48,200 --> 00:55:50,200
Speaker 1: shuts up and it we're locked in, we're ready to go.

1258
00:55:50,360 --> 00:55:53,520
Speaker 1: So he uh, he brings us just different tenacity and

1259
00:55:53,840 --> 00:55:56,719
Speaker 1: it's just even now like more southern last year. He's

1260
00:55:56,719 --> 00:55:59,359
Speaker 1: just grown grown up so much and grown into such

1261
00:55:59,360 --> 00:56:01,040
Speaker 1: a tremendous a ball player. I mean, he's been a

1262
00:56:01,080 --> 00:56:03,040
Speaker 1: great one since the freshman year, but you know, I

1263
00:56:03,120 --> 00:56:07,680
Speaker 1: think he's even better now than anything that anyone's ever seen.

1264
00:56:08,239 --> 00:56:10,400
Speaker 1: Buck always always interesting when you get a chance to

1265
00:56:10,440 --> 00:56:14,440
Speaker 1: talk to these teammates of of players and prospects. I

1266
00:56:14,480 --> 00:56:16,120
Speaker 1: feel like that's those the guys that know them better

1267
00:56:16,160 --> 00:56:18,719
Speaker 1: than anybody else. And we've got some good answers there. Yeah,

1268
00:56:18,760 --> 00:56:20,960
Speaker 1: we did get good answers. I think they do know him.

1269
00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:23,000
Speaker 1: They end the harder with them. They know exactly how

1270
00:56:23,080 --> 00:56:25,800
Speaker 1: I got acts, how he handles pressure, how he reacts

1271
00:56:26,120 --> 00:56:28,719
Speaker 1: to adverse situations. So it was good to get that

1272
00:56:28,840 --> 00:56:31,840
Speaker 1: insight from those guys on Josh Rosen and really figure

1273
00:56:31,840 --> 00:56:33,719
Speaker 1: out what kind of player he is for the team,

1274
00:56:33,880 --> 00:56:36,680
Speaker 1: No question all right. That's uh, that's about it for

1275
00:56:36,840 --> 00:56:38,279
Speaker 1: us here today. In terms of teams, I know we

1276
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Speaker 1: mentioned the Jets a little bit earlier. Any other any

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Speaker 1: other spots you think would be a great fit for

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Speaker 1: Josh Rose. I think you've said Denver. I've said Denver.

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Speaker 1: I think I think Denver would be a nice fit

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Speaker 1: because they have the weapons around him. Man, you're saying

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Speaker 1: news to Mary's Thomas. Uh, you have a couple of

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks in the building, and Gary Kubiak and John Elway,

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Speaker 1: so I think he could really glam a lot of

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Speaker 1: insight from those guys. I think they would be a

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Speaker 1: nice fit for him as well. Uh, in terms of

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Speaker 1: what you can expect year one when you put him

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Speaker 1: up with the other quarterbacks in this class, I mean,

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Speaker 1: obviously it's depending on where you go in what situation

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Speaker 1: you find yourself, but I think you make a strong

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Speaker 1: case that Josh is probably poised to have the most

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Speaker 1: immediate success of any quarterback in this class. You with

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Speaker 1: me on that, I think you could. I think in

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Speaker 1: the right situation, he's certainly could jump into an established

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Speaker 1: team and handle the keys of the car, had keys

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Speaker 1: to the car, and find a way to get it

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Speaker 1: to the winner circle. He is a polished quarterback, and

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Speaker 1: I think he is ready, more ready than any other

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Speaker 1: quarterback in this situation. Put a lot on and put

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Speaker 1: a lot on his plate. Give him some control with

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Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage. You know, we heard that word

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Speaker 1: you gotta stimulate him. Well, you give him, you give

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Speaker 1: him a lot of control NFL quarterback having controlled the

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Speaker 1: line of scrimmage, he that would be enough to keep

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Speaker 1: him busy. Absolutely, I think so he'll be just fine there.

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Speaker 1: All right, that's gonna do it for us here on

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Speaker 1: the Josh Rosen three sixty Outstanding Guests. Thank you David

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Speaker 1: Singer for for getting those all corralled for us. Uh buck,

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Speaker 1: I've enjoyed it, this whole series. To me, I feel

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Speaker 1: And we have these podcasts turning each and every week

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Speaker 1: as we marched towards NFL Draft. He's Bucky Brooks. I'm

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