1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,960 Speaker 1: Welcome on, everybody to a Wednesday edition, a Draft Night, 2 00:00:04,280 --> 00:00:09,680 Speaker 1: Wednesday edition of Texas All Access right here on our 3 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:11,920 Speaker 1: Flightship Sports Radio six ten. Glad to be with you 4 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:15,160 Speaker 1: from the Honday Texans Radio Studio. I'm your host, John Harris, 5 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:18,400 Speaker 1: and I'm joined by my host, my pal, my boss, 6 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:21,720 Speaker 1: my friend, the voice of the Texans, Mark Vandimir Mark. 7 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:25,480 Speaker 1: Good to evening, my friend. How are you, sir, Good evening, Johnny. 8 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:27,680 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm looking forward to this show because this 9 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:30,680 Speaker 1: has been fun, just talking NFL football, talking what's going 10 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:33,879 Speaker 1: on with the Texans. And look, I know there are 11 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:40,040 Speaker 1: some big topics, big topics out there involving this football team. 12 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:41,960 Speaker 1: But I like diving into the weeds a little bit. 13 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:44,720 Speaker 1: I like the Deep album cuts. Okay, you're gonna have 14 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:47,600 Speaker 1: to play Lady Gaga and Katie Perry on this show. 15 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:50,479 Speaker 1: I want to play some Joni Mitchell. I want to 16 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:54,000 Speaker 1: get into some vintage Carol King. Let's do it. Yeah, 17 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:56,800 Speaker 1: no doubt we are going to have. Since it's a 18 00:00:56,800 --> 00:01:01,200 Speaker 1: Wednesday night, it's our Draft night. Drew Dorty and I 19 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:05,240 Speaker 1: are in the lab. Series moves on into episode three 20 00:01:05,480 --> 00:01:10,840 Speaker 1: of four parts. These are picks seventeen through twenty four, 21 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:16,560 Speaker 1: thirty two NFL teams, one pick for each team, and 22 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:22,800 Speaker 1: Mark tonight, I pick my quarterback and it will cut 23 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:27,119 Speaker 1: you to the core. Oh no, oh, no, no, that 24 00:01:27,160 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 1: means one of two people, really, Okay, Peyton Manning or 25 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 1: Tom Brady. Oh, it's one of them. It's one of them. 26 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:39,400 Speaker 1: And if you've been paying attention, you know which one 27 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:42,080 Speaker 1: it is, because I've already picked my patriot. Oh, I 28 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 1: just gave it away. That's a bad tease. Yeah, it's 29 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 1: it's Peyton Manning. I'm giving it away. But I had 30 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 1: I had a strategy. I'll ask you right off the bat, 31 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:53,320 Speaker 1: because we are gonna talk about safeties tonight. That's our 32 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 1: position group for tonight, and we're all I've also got 33 00:01:56,320 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 1: some gut reaction, some thoughts I want to I want 34 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:03,520 Speaker 1: to get you earth thoughts on because there's something's happening 35 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 1: not only in the NFL world, but just around the world. 36 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 1: And when it's happening in the state of Kentucky, that 37 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 1: sort of blew me away, and I was like, oh 38 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 1: my gosh, So I had to get your thoughts on that. 39 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:16,680 Speaker 1: But I was coming in a day three of our 40 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:21,680 Speaker 1: draft and I had not picked a Bronco and I 41 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:26,680 Speaker 1: had not picked a cult, and I'm going, oh, man, 42 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 1: I've got an opportunity at John Elway or Peyton Manning. 43 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 1: But if I picked John Elway, then I'm going to 44 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 1: end up being stuck with a Colt. Maybe I don't know, 45 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:39,280 Speaker 1: you know, one of the old time Colts, which is fine, 46 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:42,840 Speaker 1: or I could had John United said. I was like, 47 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:44,960 Speaker 1: you know, okay, but I think I'd rather have Peyton 48 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:48,400 Speaker 1: Manning more relatable for most of our listeners to at 49 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:50,840 Speaker 1: least have seen Peyton Manning. So that's kind of the 50 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 1: way I was thinking. So instead of going John Elway 51 00:02:55,880 --> 00:03:00,280 Speaker 1: Geno Marchetti for the Colts, I ended up going Von Oller, 52 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:05,280 Speaker 1: Peyton Manning, and back to back picks. Your thoughts. Look, 53 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:09,520 Speaker 1: if Von Miller's your Bronco, you're doing well, right. There 54 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:12,240 Speaker 1: are a lot of Bronchos you could pick, Yeah, but 55 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:15,679 Speaker 1: I think always, without a doubt the best one ever. 56 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:18,360 Speaker 1: You could have also picked Peyton Manning as your Bronco. 57 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 1: How about that? Could you that qualifier in your draft? 58 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:27,359 Speaker 1: It could have. And as far as cults go, I mean, look, 59 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:28,919 Speaker 1: if you didn't have a running back, you could pick 60 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 1: Eric Dickerson as your cult. You could take Dwight Freeney 61 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 1: as a pass rusher, you know, you could do something 62 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 1: like that. But I think, look, I think you played 63 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 1: it right. Peyton Manning is one of the greatest quarterbacks 64 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 1: to ever play. I know, he got out of the 65 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:47,080 Speaker 1: league with only two Super Bowls and what three Super 66 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 1: four super Bowl appearances, So that's not too bad, Johnny, No, 67 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:53,120 Speaker 1: it's not back going to four Super Bowls. You know, 68 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 1: the world gets skewed with Brady and you start to 69 00:03:56,760 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 1: compare everybody to him, and everybody pales in comparison. But 70 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 1: when you look at Manning, what he's put up there, 71 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 1: that's outstanding, and he coaches the team as well, and 72 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 1: he's one of those guys and I'll stand by this, 73 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 1: he elevates the team even when he's not playing well. 74 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:13,960 Speaker 1: Look at the super Bowl he won in OH six. 75 00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:17,640 Speaker 1: Wasn't a great the greatest super Bowl performance we've ever seen, right, 76 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 1: but he won the Super Bowl. And then look at 77 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 1: what happened in his last one with the Denver Broncos 78 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:26,160 Speaker 1: where he took over for Oswylder when Oswalder wasn't cutting it. 79 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 1: He didn't play that well. He played okay, but there 80 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 1: was just this sense of we gotta get this done. 81 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:37,120 Speaker 1: Everybody kind of played better around Manning. Everybody's stuck together 82 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 1: and played as a team. And you know, that's what 83 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 1: Brady did for the Bucks this year. Although he played 84 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 1: better in his recent Super Bowl than Manning did in 85 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:47,040 Speaker 1: his last one, we all agree on that. But there's 86 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:49,360 Speaker 1: something about those guys that when they take the field, 87 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:53,400 Speaker 1: everybody puts their best foot forward. It's really hard. I 88 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:55,400 Speaker 1: guess it's not hard to define it. It is what 89 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:57,360 Speaker 1: it is. And we've all played sports at every level 90 00:04:57,360 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 1: where you're playing with somebody where there's a pickup game 91 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:01,680 Speaker 1: or on a team at high school or whatever, with 92 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:04,920 Speaker 1: that guy or those guys have that effect on people. Well, 93 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 1: they have the ultimate effect. Those two quarterbacks. I had 94 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:12,000 Speaker 1: a couple of cults running backs that I was thinking about. 95 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:16,920 Speaker 1: Lenny Moore, long time running backs, slash wide receiver, kind 96 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:19,280 Speaker 1: of weapon AX type. But I'd already taken from the 97 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 1: Packers Paul Horning, so I felt like that would be redundant. 98 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 1: I did thinking about Edgar and James. That was another one. 99 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:29,440 Speaker 1: But then I realized, oh wait a second, I've got 100 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:31,240 Speaker 1: two of the running backs that I can grab and 101 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 1: it'll blow everybody away. Considering what I was able to 102 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:39,479 Speaker 1: get on day three, Drew's already taken his two running backs. 103 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:44,040 Speaker 1: He took Jim Brown and Walter Payton from the Browns 104 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:48,920 Speaker 1: and the Bears. I take I take my two running 105 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:52,039 Speaker 1: backs tonight, and when you hear it, you're like, wait 106 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 1: a second, your two might be better than his two. 107 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 1: But I'll let people decide on that. Yes, yes, think 108 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:02,720 Speaker 1: about hold on, think about the city you live in, 109 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:06,040 Speaker 1: in the state you live in currently, and there will 110 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:08,440 Speaker 1: be a lot of people that are like, damn right, John, 111 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 1: you made the right pick. That's all. That's all say. 112 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:15,560 Speaker 1: It's all say. You'll you'll hear later on in you'll 113 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:18,599 Speaker 1: hear later on the show. But I feel like my 114 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 1: two are better than his two. You'll hear those picks 115 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:25,800 Speaker 1: later on. Now. I made one of my picks at safety. 116 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:28,720 Speaker 1: I got a few more. Actually, I've made two. My 117 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 1: two picks, I've got Ed Reid and Larry Wilson. Those 118 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 1: are my two safeties, which leads me to the discussion 119 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 1: of our safeties mark heading into twenty twenty one, this 120 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 1: depth chart at safety of all the positions on this 121 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:50,039 Speaker 1: team I look at this one and think this is 122 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 1: the one with the least amount of change to me 123 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:57,920 Speaker 1: heading into twenty twenty one. Really, you think I'm right 124 00:06:57,960 --> 00:07:01,360 Speaker 1: on that? No, I don't think you're right. I think 125 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 1: they're gonna get somebody. I think somebody's gonna play next 126 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:10,640 Speaker 1: to Justin Reid a bunch. Now. It could be Eric Murray, 127 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 1: it could be Lonnie Yeah, you know, it could be 128 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:16,600 Speaker 1: Jonathan Owens, but I doubt it. And I'm not saying 129 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:18,760 Speaker 1: those guys won't play, and I think they figure into 130 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:20,560 Speaker 1: the mix. And I think injuries and you know how 131 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 1: I define these things, But I believe there will be 132 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 1: another candidate to take a huge chunk of playing time 133 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:32,000 Speaker 1: at safety before it's all said and done this offseason. 134 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:35,280 Speaker 1: And I'm not talking about a Marquee buster necessarily, like 135 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:37,920 Speaker 1: when you sign him, Oh my gosh. Look, those things 136 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:41,080 Speaker 1: don't always work out Ed Reid, those things don't always 137 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 1: work out right. But I think you'll get somebody here, 138 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 1: Quinton damn, somebody, not him specifically, but somebody liked that 139 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 1: where gee, I wasn't even thinking of that, and then 140 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 1: he comes in and all of a sudden, he has 141 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 1: seven picks. Look that'd be great. But somebody who were 142 00:07:55,760 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 1: not thinking about right now, but the name's gonna pop 143 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 1: up eventually. They're gonna play and they're gonna make plays. 144 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 1: And that's what I'm hoping anyway, or I'm hoping one 145 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 1: of these guys takes that role, because I think Johnny 146 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 1: and you address this. Everybody's got to take a step 147 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 1: forward here. Justin Reid had some moments last year. He 148 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:15,679 Speaker 1: wanted a better year. But I feel good about Justin 149 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 1: Reid twenty four years old. Come on, it tapped the 150 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:21,040 Speaker 1: brakes on. Oh. I don't know if Justin Reid is 151 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:23,200 Speaker 1: so good. I hear that from some people. Let's just 152 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:26,040 Speaker 1: relax a little bit. I think he's gonna be just fine. Yeah, 153 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:30,200 Speaker 1: next to him, is it Murray? Is it Lonnie? Those 154 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:32,600 Speaker 1: guys all need to take a step forward if they're 155 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:35,760 Speaker 1: gonna be the guy. And that's why I think that 156 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:39,080 Speaker 1: Nick Kassio is thinking we need some more candidates here. 157 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:42,120 Speaker 1: Let's see what we can drum up in either free agency, 158 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:44,720 Speaker 1: the draft or whatever. I think the one thing you 159 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:47,200 Speaker 1: really don't have a lot of back there. I mean, 160 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:48,880 Speaker 1: Eric Murray's been in the league for a little bit, 161 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:51,439 Speaker 1: but you don't have a ton of veteran influence. I 162 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:55,400 Speaker 1: may know Justin's going into his fourth season now, Man, 163 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 1: that's weird to think. One, yeah, this is fourth season. Now, 164 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:03,199 Speaker 1: Lonnie's third season. I wouldn't be surprised or I wouldn't 165 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:05,959 Speaker 1: be disappointed if there was, you know, kind of a 166 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 1: grizzled veteran kind of put in there. I think to 167 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 1: your point about Quentin Depps, then Quentin is the perfect 168 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 1: kind of candidate. And for people that are going, well, 169 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:15,600 Speaker 1: what about Quentin Depps, Well, Quintin was with the Texas 170 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:18,520 Speaker 1: in twenty twelve, did some good things, kind of moved around, 171 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:23,160 Speaker 1: came back to the Texans week three of the preseason 172 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:26,840 Speaker 1: in twenty fifteen and ended up being a guy next 173 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 1: to Andre Howe on the back end. And those two 174 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:32,480 Speaker 1: safeties ended up being really good ball hawks. And to 175 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 1: the point mark about whoever steps in back there. Look, 176 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:41,839 Speaker 1: Lonnie's played corner, Eric Murray's played nickel and corner. Those 177 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:45,240 Speaker 1: guys need to be ballhawks going forward. The safeties did 178 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:50,880 Speaker 1: not have one interception in twenty twenty, not one. Vernon 179 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:54,840 Speaker 1: had one, Broby had one, JJ had one. Three interceptions 180 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:58,079 Speaker 1: all year long. The safeties did not have an interception. 181 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:01,439 Speaker 1: Now what they did have some sacks and some TFLs 182 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:04,079 Speaker 1: and some pressures because Anthony Weaver kind of unleashed them 183 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:07,280 Speaker 1: in that way, but they did not go find the football. 184 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:10,600 Speaker 1: That's got to change in twenty twenty one. If anything 185 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:13,600 Speaker 1: else at the safety position has got to change, it's 186 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:17,760 Speaker 1: the fact that those guys back there must hunt the football. 187 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:22,080 Speaker 1: And if there is as we've talked about, Lovely Smiths 188 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 1: defense a little bit more covered two Tampa two, those 189 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:28,200 Speaker 1: kind of things zone coverage sometimes you're a little bit 190 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:32,240 Speaker 1: more prone in zooe coverage. Three quarterbacks eyes, see receiver 191 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 1: routes and go find the football. Maybe that's maybe that's 192 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:36,280 Speaker 1: what they do a little bit more of that would 193 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 1: be nice. But to your point, whichever safety they bring in, 194 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:43,719 Speaker 1: because I'm with you, I do think that there will 195 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:46,559 Speaker 1: be somebody added. I don't know if there'll be anybody eliminated. 196 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:48,880 Speaker 1: I think you're gonna have those guys we mentioned in 197 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:52,280 Speaker 1: addition to a Jonathan Owens as a starting point. I 198 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:56,120 Speaker 1: do think there will be somebody added, be it don't 199 00:10:56,520 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 1: maybe in the draft, but I think there are other 200 00:10:58,360 --> 00:10:59,960 Speaker 1: areas to address in the draft. But I do think 201 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:02,760 Speaker 1: maybe a kind of a grizzled vet, you know, kind 202 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:05,320 Speaker 1: of a Devin mccordy type guy's been around, you know, 203 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:08,360 Speaker 1: the league for a while that you know, Nick Conserion is, 204 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:10,320 Speaker 1: you know, very familiar with. It's not gonna be Devin mccordy, 205 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:12,640 Speaker 1: but somebody of that ILK, right, you come in and 206 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:15,560 Speaker 1: kind of help that whole group come together, I think 207 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:20,320 Speaker 1: would be absolutely perfect. Now, my two running back picks 208 00:11:20,320 --> 00:11:25,200 Speaker 1: are coming up in our ultimate draft. Who are they? Well, 209 00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:28,520 Speaker 1: you have to listen. That's next right here on Texans 210 00:11:28,559 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 1: All Access. Welcome to Texans All Access. 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Now 220 00:12:10,320 --> 00:12:17,200 Speaker 1: here's the show. All right, it's come time for the 221 00:12:17,400 --> 00:12:20,240 Speaker 1: Ultimate Draft. Thirty two teams, one pick for each team, 222 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:24,920 Speaker 1: for Drew Doherty and myself. I'll let Drew set it 223 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:28,680 Speaker 1: all up from here. Who is your seventeenth pick for 224 00:12:28,760 --> 00:12:33,680 Speaker 1: the Harris All Stars? Okay? After last week, I went 225 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:35,720 Speaker 1: back and I was like, Okay, I figured out I 226 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:39,920 Speaker 1: got sixteen picks left, eleven picks. I know exactly what 227 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:41,880 Speaker 1: I'm doing, and I knew I had a top pick, 228 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:44,080 Speaker 1: and so I battled back and forth. You mentioned it. 229 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:47,520 Speaker 1: We don't have quarterbacks, and there are a couple of 230 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:52,120 Speaker 1: teams we have not taken players from correct. So I figured, 231 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:54,400 Speaker 1: all right, I know the guys that I want, I'll 232 00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 1: save them. I know the guys I need to get right, 233 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:01,280 Speaker 1: and one of them is from a team I don't 234 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:03,200 Speaker 1: think either one of us have drafted. But I'm not 235 00:13:03,240 --> 00:13:07,840 Speaker 1: going to quarterback. Okay, I'm going outside linebacker still in 236 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:11,480 Speaker 1: the league. Was in the two thousand eleven draft with J. J. Watt. 237 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:17,559 Speaker 1: I am bringing Von Miller back home the Denver Broncos. 238 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:22,560 Speaker 1: He is my first pick, and that leads for you. 239 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 1: John Elway on the board if you would like him. 240 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:31,160 Speaker 1: John Elway is there. If you decide you want him, 241 00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:34,960 Speaker 1: But von Miller is my pick Outstanding MVP of Super 242 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:38,040 Speaker 1: Bowl fifty. Von Miller is my pick. He's one of 243 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:41,000 Speaker 1: Elway that is a good picker. Right, Elway is one 244 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:44,680 Speaker 1: of my final four that I'm I'm wrestling with. You 245 00:13:44,720 --> 00:13:46,599 Speaker 1: made it easier though by taking von Miller, because that 246 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:48,920 Speaker 1: would have been the other choice as a Bronco. Yeah, 247 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:50,760 Speaker 1: you know, I suppose I can go with Carl Mecklenburg, 248 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:54,160 Speaker 1: but I'm not gonna. There's lots of others you can 249 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:57,240 Speaker 1: go with. But see that water, see that? Why could? 250 00:13:57,400 --> 00:14:00,559 Speaker 1: But I'm not gonna. Now I can wait. But neither 251 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 1: of us has also chosen a San Diego Charger. Let's 252 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:08,600 Speaker 1: they got a rich history. You can go at tight end. 253 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:12,200 Speaker 1: You go Kellen Winslow, excellent. You can go with one 254 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:16,439 Speaker 1: of the greatest receivers ever, Lance Allworth. Got some good quarterbacks. 255 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:19,400 Speaker 1: I don't think they're you know, top five quarterbacks. But 256 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:21,360 Speaker 1: you can do Dan Founce, you can do Philip Rivers 257 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:26,680 Speaker 1: and nobody would deride you, I don't think. But the 258 00:14:26,760 --> 00:14:29,880 Speaker 1: linebacker spot for me, I've got ray Lewis right there, 259 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:33,960 Speaker 1: and he's a good one. And when I think mister Charger, 260 00:14:34,640 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 1: I'm thinking as my phone goes off, it's my wife. 261 00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:40,520 Speaker 1: Actually hold on, let me let me get this because 262 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:43,040 Speaker 1: my wife. For those of you watching and listening, my 263 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:44,920 Speaker 1: wife is about eight and a half months pregnant. So 264 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:48,760 Speaker 1: I need to make sure that we're not We're gonna 265 00:14:48,760 --> 00:14:50,960 Speaker 1: pause just for a moment. You might have a new 266 00:14:51,040 --> 00:14:53,960 Speaker 1: draft pick. Bro, Yes, all right, we're back. No baby, 267 00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:57,240 Speaker 1: but I'm going with Junior say Ol. Mister Charger. In 268 00:14:57,320 --> 00:15:00,800 Speaker 1: my mind, this guy was amazing at the line backer spot. 269 00:15:01,240 --> 00:15:04,480 Speaker 1: He's probably you know, when I put this defense on 270 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:06,840 Speaker 1: the field, I think on what I'm gonna do is 271 00:15:06,880 --> 00:15:10,160 Speaker 1: go with five dbs and go with five kind of 272 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:14,080 Speaker 1: rush for defensive lineman, an outside linebacker, and I'll have 273 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 1: Ray Lewis in there. But if I want to switch 274 00:15:16,120 --> 00:15:18,160 Speaker 1: Ray out, or if I want to go with two linebackers, 275 00:15:18,640 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 1: I want Junior say Out in there. So I'm picking 276 00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:25,560 Speaker 1: Junior say Out. He is my first pick of the day, 277 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:28,120 Speaker 1: and I'm really happy plugging him in there next to 278 00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:34,160 Speaker 1: next to ray Lewis, because hey, he played twenty years 279 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:36,560 Speaker 1: in the league. Can you believe that thirteen years as 280 00:15:36,560 --> 00:15:41,600 Speaker 1: a Charger four with New England? I mean eighteen interceptions, recovered, 281 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:45,800 Speaker 1: eighteen fumbles, forced another eleven at fifty six and a 282 00:15:45,800 --> 00:15:47,480 Speaker 1: half sacks not that's not really what he was there for. 283 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:50,240 Speaker 1: But he just cranked out tackles and was a really 284 00:15:50,280 --> 00:15:53,120 Speaker 1: productive player. I've set there at the linebacker spot in 285 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:55,640 Speaker 1: my eyes. So Junior, sayou off the board now that 286 00:15:55,800 --> 00:15:58,160 Speaker 1: that was a good pick. There's one final team if 287 00:15:58,200 --> 00:16:01,160 Speaker 1: my math is correct, that either of us have taken 288 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:05,160 Speaker 1: a player from. Is that correct? You've got me here, 289 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:10,280 Speaker 1: who tell me the Baltimore slash Indianapolis Colts. Yes, that's right. 290 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 1: That's a tough one. It is, really, it was very easy. 291 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:19,440 Speaker 1: I when I sat down on my game plan for 292 00:16:19,560 --> 00:16:24,640 Speaker 1: what I was gonna do, I was just hoping that 293 00:16:24,760 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 1: you would not do this because I passed on John 294 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:31,160 Speaker 1: Elway because I wanted Von Miller. So my decision became, 295 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:36,680 Speaker 1: do I want John Elway and a cult or do 296 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:40,640 Speaker 1: I want Von Miller and Peyton Manning. And I'm not 297 00:16:40,680 --> 00:16:44,720 Speaker 1: the biggest Peyton Manning fan you're in the world. You're 298 00:16:44,720 --> 00:16:46,320 Speaker 1: going that that's not even the best quarterback in the 299 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:50,280 Speaker 1: franchise's history. I much rather have Peyton Manny than John. Unite, 300 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:53,960 Speaker 1: what I could also go Burt Jones if I wanted 301 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:56,160 Speaker 1: to go quarterbacks. So you're going to Peyton Manning, Huh, 302 00:16:56,200 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 1: I'm going Peyton Manning, all right, all right, I'm going 303 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:02,600 Speaker 1: to pay Manning. Look he was He's a slam dun 304 00:17:02,680 --> 00:17:04,720 Speaker 1: Call of Famer. I mean it took ten seconds for 305 00:17:05,080 --> 00:17:10,360 Speaker 1: Mike Chap I think to announce him this past Hall 306 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:15,320 Speaker 1: of Fame selection. It was easy, and you could do 307 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:17,160 Speaker 1: a whole heck of a lot worse than a guy 308 00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:21,480 Speaker 1: that did what he did in the NFL two championships 309 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:24,639 Speaker 1: with two different teams, although I know the Broncos, but 310 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:27,680 Speaker 1: he said records with the Broncos after the next surgery. 311 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:31,640 Speaker 1: I always had an issue with Peyton, and that dated 312 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:33,439 Speaker 1: back to days at Tennessee because it was like always 313 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:35,800 Speaker 1: so great. Yeah, you never beat Florida and he looked 314 00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:38,959 Speaker 1: lousy in those games. But when it comes out to it, 315 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:43,440 Speaker 1: what I want Peyton Manning as the leader of this franchise. Yes, 316 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:47,399 Speaker 1: so I'm taking Peyton Manning. I went Von Miller Peyton Manning. 317 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:50,440 Speaker 1: I feel pretty good about that. Well, when the add 318 00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 1: our two teams to the NFL this season and they 319 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:55,600 Speaker 1: put my team in the AFC South and your team 320 00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:58,160 Speaker 1: in the NFC East. We're gonna run rough shot over 321 00:17:58,160 --> 00:18:00,960 Speaker 1: the competition, and we're gonna meet in the super Bowl. 322 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:05,919 Speaker 1: And this is gonna be tough because they might have 323 00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:08,600 Speaker 1: to halt the game because this guy that I'm adding 324 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:12,199 Speaker 1: to my defensive front, he's gonna get pair up with 325 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:13,880 Speaker 1: a bunch of these other guys and we might murder 326 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:16,080 Speaker 1: Peyton Manning by accident. It's gonna be might be would 327 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:20,320 Speaker 1: be manslaughter because I'm adding. Since already have the Minister 328 00:18:20,440 --> 00:18:23,320 Speaker 1: of defense in Reggie White, a minister's got to have 329 00:18:23,320 --> 00:18:26,960 Speaker 1: a deacon. So I'm going with Deacon Jones Legend of 330 00:18:27,040 --> 00:18:30,840 Speaker 1: the game, and I don't know a whole lot about him, 331 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:35,359 Speaker 1: but I went and looked him up and back. Before 332 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:37,719 Speaker 1: they counted stats, they didn't really sacks. They didn't really 333 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:40,960 Speaker 1: count sacks until like eighty two or so. But they 334 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:43,920 Speaker 1: went back and looked at the film and they said, 335 00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:47,800 Speaker 1: if if the stuff he'd done had counted, he'd had 336 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:50,760 Speaker 1: at least three seasons of twenty one sacks or more. 337 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:53,720 Speaker 1: I mean, he was just he was a freak of nature. 338 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:57,160 Speaker 1: He's a defensive end. He's one defensive end. I've got 339 00:18:57,160 --> 00:19:00,679 Speaker 1: Reggie White as another defensive end. And I also have 340 00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:03,480 Speaker 1: Lawrence Taylor screaming off the edge and mean Joe and 341 00:19:03,760 --> 00:19:06,400 Speaker 1: Me and Joe Green. So I'm taking from the Rams, 342 00:19:07,040 --> 00:19:10,040 Speaker 1: Deacon Jones. Okay, I feel like I got the better 343 00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:12,800 Speaker 1: Rams defensive linem with Aaron Donald. But okay, I mean 344 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:15,119 Speaker 1: I do have Aaron Donald, JJ Watt, Bruce Smith, and 345 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:17,840 Speaker 1: Von Miller, So I'm not throwing shade on your defense. 346 00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:21,040 Speaker 1: I'm not. I know, I know you gotta Deacon in 347 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:25,600 Speaker 1: a minister. I like it. I like it. Okay, I 348 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:28,800 Speaker 1: think we've gotten to the point for me where I 349 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:31,080 Speaker 1: can I don't want to stemp going in order here, 350 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:34,199 Speaker 1: but I can sort of follow the rest of my 351 00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:38,000 Speaker 1: plan and then make a make a final decision on 352 00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:39,879 Speaker 1: the last two picks. I'll save those for the end. 353 00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:45,719 Speaker 1: I did go back and forth about what I was 354 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:48,920 Speaker 1: going to do at the running back position, and then 355 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:53,639 Speaker 1: I remembered, oh, yeah, that's right. Your Lions pick was Megatron. 356 00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:58,640 Speaker 1: That made my running back because pick very easily, very 357 00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:05,000 Speaker 1: easy from the Lions, I will take running back Barry Sanders. 358 00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:08,280 Speaker 1: Oh not Joke Bell, Okay, okay, no joke Bell. No, uh, 359 00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:15,480 Speaker 1: he's second on the list. Maybe third. No, he's second, 360 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:19,680 Speaker 1: joke belts second, but Barry Sanders is first. Oh yeah, 361 00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:23,280 Speaker 1: Jack Bell would be third behind Billy Simms. Yeah, I'm joking. 362 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:25,680 Speaker 1: I could just take the number twenty, but I'm taking 363 00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:27,840 Speaker 1: Barry Sanders as my running back and I'm not done 364 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:30,960 Speaker 1: at the running back position, which I will do next. Oh, 365 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:34,840 Speaker 1: I can't wait to hear this. But Barry Sanders thousand 366 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:37,800 Speaker 1: yards plus every single season he played. I think he 367 00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:41,560 Speaker 1: was it. Twelve hundred was his minimal. I don't know, 368 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:44,000 Speaker 1: but we just watched a video. Me and my five 369 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:47,680 Speaker 1: year old, my seven year old sons. Amazing, just amazing. 370 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:50,119 Speaker 1: That was incredible. His best runs were runs where he 371 00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:52,280 Speaker 1: didn't even get into the yardage. Oh yeah, he got 372 00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:54,639 Speaker 1: back to the line of scrimmage after dodging fourteen. He 373 00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:57,840 Speaker 1: was incredible. All right, I'm gonna I'm gonna keep deep 374 00:20:58,160 --> 00:21:00,840 Speaker 1: bulstring in my defense and I got a legend of 375 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:03,800 Speaker 1: the game on my last pick up front Deacon Jones, 376 00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:06,800 Speaker 1: I'm gonna get another one one of the great nicknames 377 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:09,239 Speaker 1: of all time from the Cardinals. He spent a lot 378 00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:13,119 Speaker 1: of time with the Chicago Cardinals. And you're like, what, 379 00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:16,440 Speaker 1: I now know where you're going with this. Yeah, he's 380 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:19,680 Speaker 1: also spent time with the Detroit Lions. Yes, yeah, I was. 381 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:22,080 Speaker 1: We're gonna snag him up, but I'm gonna go with 382 00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:25,680 Speaker 1: the night train night train lane. He was a Hall 383 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:27,480 Speaker 1: of Famer, or he is a Hall of Famer who's 384 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:34,240 Speaker 1: seven time Pro bowler. He had sixty eight interceptions, He's eight. 385 00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:38,560 Speaker 1: I mean, just ridiculous. Yes, yeah, so any physical he 386 00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:44,800 Speaker 1: knocked dudes out. I mean he was he was everything. Yeah, 387 00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:47,720 Speaker 1: he was a monster. So he's listed as a left 388 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:49,840 Speaker 1: cornerback at the end of his career, but at the 389 00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:52,560 Speaker 1: start of his career RDH Is that just a right 390 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:55,520 Speaker 1: defensive half back basically, like yeah, yeah, that's exactly how 391 00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:57,399 Speaker 1: it was. They used to call him halfbacks when I 392 00:21:57,480 --> 00:22:01,480 Speaker 1: was in college. We actually are two corner positions. One 393 00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:05,040 Speaker 1: was called halfback, one was called corner, and the halfback 394 00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:07,280 Speaker 1: actually played in the boundary and the corner played to 395 00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:11,879 Speaker 1: the field. So that's how that's how we differentiated it. Okay, 396 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:14,440 Speaker 1: so we're under our fourth pick of the third round. 397 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:17,680 Speaker 1: That was that was That was a good one. And 398 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:20,560 Speaker 1: once once I made my pick when we were talking 399 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:22,920 Speaker 1: to Lions, when you said Chicago Cardinals knew exactly it was. 400 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:25,359 Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, that makes sense. We actually got 401 00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:28,159 Speaker 1: two great defensive back to the Cardinals. I'm sticking with 402 00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:31,080 Speaker 1: running back, and I'm sticking with a guy that actually 403 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:34,440 Speaker 1: played the majority of his career in the state of Texas. 404 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:38,320 Speaker 1: I need to get a Titan, but I don't really 405 00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:40,840 Speaker 1: want to tighten no. So I went and I got 406 00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:43,919 Speaker 1: an oiler easy. I could play him at fullback with 407 00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:48,040 Speaker 1: Barry Sanders. Barry Sanders never really had a fullback. I 408 00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:50,320 Speaker 1: can play him at tailback if I need to. I 409 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:52,720 Speaker 1: could play him next to Paul Horning. I'm taking the 410 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:57,159 Speaker 1: Tyler Rose, Earl Campbell. My backfield is Barry Sanders or 411 00:22:57,160 --> 00:22:59,920 Speaker 1: Campbell and the versat of Paul Horning from the Green 412 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:02,399 Speaker 1: Packers MVP back to the six. You've got thunder and Lightning. 413 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:05,080 Speaker 1: You got you got an impressive backfield, man, those two 414 00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:08,639 Speaker 1: Earl and Sanders. That's that's gonna be really, that's just 415 00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:11,000 Speaker 1: gonna cause havoc for for defenses. It's gonna be tough. 416 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:13,520 Speaker 1: You got Jim Brown and Walter Payton Broke. I like, 417 00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:16,600 Speaker 1: I like mine too. I really I think between the 418 00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:19,200 Speaker 1: two of us, we've taken the four best running backs 419 00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:22,399 Speaker 1: of all time. I think you're correct, absolutely. I know 420 00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:26,240 Speaker 1: there are other fans are like Smith. No, No, there's 421 00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:28,159 Speaker 1: other guys who have more yards. I'll granted that, but 422 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:30,879 Speaker 1: I think those are the four best. Um. I love it. 423 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:33,960 Speaker 1: Great pick, dude. Um, I'm gonna stay with the other Dallas, 424 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:36,520 Speaker 1: the other Texas team. I'm gonna go with the Cowboys. 425 00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:39,240 Speaker 1: You took Larry Allen really early in this as the 426 00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:43,000 Speaker 1: offensive lineman, one of the best to ever do it, immovable. 427 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:47,520 Speaker 1: I'm gonna take an original cowboy. Mister Cowboy they called him, 428 00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:51,359 Speaker 1: played his college ball at TCU. Luckily for me, back 429 00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:53,960 Speaker 1: when I was working in Dallas at a TV station, 430 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:56,879 Speaker 1: we had a show called Cadillac Legends and Sports, Texas 431 00:23:56,960 --> 00:23:59,040 Speaker 1: Legends and Sports, and we go and we did. We 432 00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:01,439 Speaker 1: go to this this legends home and we'd interview him 433 00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:04,359 Speaker 1: or her for a couple of hours and we just 434 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:06,200 Speaker 1: kind of hear about their career in their life. Did 435 00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:10,480 Speaker 1: Mary lou Retton, did Nolan Ryan, Rudy, Tomjanovic, Johnny Rutherford 436 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:12,399 Speaker 1: who won three in the Indianpolis five hundreds? And we 437 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:14,960 Speaker 1: got to get into this guy's house outside of Austin, 438 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:19,200 Speaker 1: Bob Lily, So, how about this. For an offensive or 439 00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:22,680 Speaker 1: defensive line. You got Bob Lily and me and Joe 440 00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:25,240 Speaker 1: Green on the inside, and then you got Deacon Jones 441 00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:28,640 Speaker 1: and Reggie White on the outside, with Lawrence Taylor coming 442 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:31,479 Speaker 1: at you off the edge as well. And what did 443 00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:36,719 Speaker 1: Bob Lily do well? Friends? He went to eleven Pro Bowls, 444 00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:39,400 Speaker 1: He was an All Pro seven times. He was an 445 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:43,080 Speaker 1: All seventies defensive player and an All sixties defensive player. 446 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:46,760 Speaker 1: He played from sixty one to seventy four. He was amazing, 447 00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:49,680 Speaker 1: never missed a game, one hundred and ninety six games 448 00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:53,600 Speaker 1: in those those those from sixty one to seventy four. 449 00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:56,280 Speaker 1: I got Bob Lily. I like what I got going 450 00:24:56,320 --> 00:25:01,359 Speaker 1: on up front. You have done some ridiculous US stuff. 451 00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:06,840 Speaker 1: That's that's pretty good. I struggled with what I was 452 00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:09,479 Speaker 1: gonna do with the Cleveland Browns. It's hard because I 453 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:12,600 Speaker 1: took Jim Brown. You took Jim Brown. Now the Browns 454 00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:16,760 Speaker 1: have had a rich history. Otto Graham, I didn't really 455 00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:20,760 Speaker 1: want automatic Otto at quarterback Paul Warfield, Like man, there 456 00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:23,520 Speaker 1: are other receivers that have been more productive. Even though 457 00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:27,919 Speaker 1: I loved Paul Warfield, just the angelic way ran routes 458 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:31,280 Speaker 1: and move. I mean, it's just so smooth. And I 459 00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:33,480 Speaker 1: looked at their Hall of Fame listing and I'm like, man, 460 00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:36,600 Speaker 1: I don't know where I'm gonna go. And literally as 461 00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:39,520 Speaker 1: I closed that page and went, wait a second, I'm 462 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:42,680 Speaker 1: gonna draft a guy that's not a Hall of Famer yet, 463 00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:45,919 Speaker 1: and it hit me, Oh my god, he's one of 464 00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:48,800 Speaker 1: the best offensive lineman I've ever seen. And he played 465 00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:52,600 Speaker 1: left tackle and never missed a snap. Yes, I have 466 00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:55,560 Speaker 1: my offensive line. You gotta eat, but you've always got 467 00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:59,560 Speaker 1: to have depth. Yeah, And so I am taking the 468 00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:06,800 Speaker 1: vote Cypherus wonderful left tackle Joe Thomas to play left tackle, 469 00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:09,200 Speaker 1: be a swing tackle. And knew a lot of stuff 470 00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:11,880 Speaker 1: for me, But when I thought about Brown, that was man. 471 00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:14,720 Speaker 1: It never really dawned on me until it just it 472 00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:17,119 Speaker 1: hit me once I got off the Hall of Fameless, like, 473 00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:20,520 Speaker 1: wait a second, Joe Thomas bingo. And that's why I 474 00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:22,160 Speaker 1: just knew how to have him. He'll be my sixth 475 00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:25,480 Speaker 1: lineman at worst. I had Joe Thomas to my mix. 476 00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:28,800 Speaker 1: That's a good one. That's a good one. All right. 477 00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:31,359 Speaker 1: I'm gonna just get it out of the way just 478 00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:36,840 Speaker 1: because you took Tony Biselli from the Jaguars. I'm gonna 479 00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:40,000 Speaker 1: go up with my Jaguars pick yeah, and I'm gonna 480 00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:44,600 Speaker 1: round out my secondary here. So I've got Dion Sanders, 481 00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:47,000 Speaker 1: I've got Darell Reeves, also have the night Train lane, 482 00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:52,119 Speaker 1: and I've got Ronnie Lott. I'm gonna add a guy 483 00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:54,840 Speaker 1: who really didn't play safety in the NFL. Hasn't played 484 00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:56,439 Speaker 1: safety in the NFL, but he did a little bit 485 00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:58,520 Speaker 1: in college, and if he needed to, he could play 486 00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:01,800 Speaker 1: it here. But he can also lock you down as 487 00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:05,320 Speaker 1: a quarterback, and he's gonna lock down whatever you throw 488 00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:09,640 Speaker 1: out there at receiver. I'm gonna go with Jalen Ramsey. Okay, 489 00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:12,520 Speaker 1: I'm doing it even though he's a ram right now. 490 00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:19,159 Speaker 1: He started his career as a Jaguar. I've got Jalen Okay, 491 00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:20,760 Speaker 1: what do you think about that? As a defensive back? 492 00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:23,439 Speaker 1: Yourself used to play safety when you I mean I was. 493 00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:27,399 Speaker 1: I've always been a big fan of Jaalen always. I 494 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:29,720 Speaker 1: think from a skill standpoint, I don't know that anybody 495 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:33,280 Speaker 1: matches him skill wise. His battles with DeAndre Hopkins were 496 00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:36,720 Speaker 1: must see television. I mean, he's a phenomenal player. I 497 00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:38,879 Speaker 1: think he'll continue to get better. I think if we 498 00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:41,040 Speaker 1: do this exercise in ten years, we'll probably draft him 499 00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:45,199 Speaker 1: for the Rams potentially. Yeah. Yeah, But I think it's 500 00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:49,760 Speaker 1: I think it's excellent. Now, the question is could he 501 00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:53,120 Speaker 1: cover Randy Moss, can he cover Jerry Rice? Or could 502 00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:55,800 Speaker 1: he cover the guy I'm about to pick. But he 503 00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:57,440 Speaker 1: might be playing safety, so he might be just kind 504 00:27:57,440 --> 00:27:59,520 Speaker 1: of be helping out maybe. But I'm at these three 505 00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:01,800 Speaker 1: receivers the field and it's gonna be very, very difficult 506 00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:05,960 Speaker 1: because when it comes to physical stature, there's Calvin Johnson, 507 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:09,920 Speaker 1: there's Randy Moss, Jerry Rice, kind of freakish type players. 508 00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:16,480 Speaker 1: But then there's one other and he's playing currently. And 509 00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:20,000 Speaker 1: when I was trying to figure out the Falcons, the 510 00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:21,800 Speaker 1: same kind of thing that hit me as the Browns, Like, 511 00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:25,560 Speaker 1: dang it, I just don't see much. You took Deon Sanders, 512 00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:28,960 Speaker 1: still younger franchise. I wasn't quite ready to take Michael 513 00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:33,480 Speaker 1: Vick just yet. And I thought, dang, Julio Jones. If 514 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:36,920 Speaker 1: I add him to Randy Moss and Jerry Rice, I'm 515 00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:40,800 Speaker 1: all about it. And since you took Deon Sanders, I'm 516 00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:43,640 Speaker 1: a pick of Falcons. It didn't leave a ton, but 517 00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:46,520 Speaker 1: it left enough for me to take Julio Jones to 518 00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:48,760 Speaker 1: add Randy Moss, Jerry Rice. So I let my receiver 519 00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:55,000 Speaker 1: corps extremely athletic, throw it to anybody got consistency, I've 520 00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:58,200 Speaker 1: got freakish nature Randy Moss, and then I got the 521 00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:00,800 Speaker 1: all around ability and speed of Julio Jones. I'll take 522 00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:04,520 Speaker 1: those three. I feel pretty good. Like I did with 523 00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:08,680 Speaker 1: the last pick. I'm gonna go back to another expansion franchise. 524 00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:11,880 Speaker 1: You took Luke Keekley. Who Who's the guy I would 525 00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:15,000 Speaker 1: have taken from the Panthers. So I mean this is 526 00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:17,120 Speaker 1: it makes it easy. I think for my next pick, 527 00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:20,320 Speaker 1: let's just keep getting after the quarterback. Let's go with 528 00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:24,040 Speaker 1: Julius Peppers. What are they all time? When we look 529 00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:26,360 Speaker 1: it up here on Pro Football Reference all time? I 530 00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:31,000 Speaker 1: think he is third, maybe fourth, on the all time 531 00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:34,360 Speaker 1: sacks list. I could be wrong, And that surprised me 532 00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:36,000 Speaker 1: when I saw it because I was looking him up. 533 00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:40,320 Speaker 1: But then it didn't surprise me, but Julius Peppers, and 534 00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:42,240 Speaker 1: you got to remember, you know some of these guys 535 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:44,000 Speaker 1: like Deacon Jones would be higher up on the list, 536 00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:46,120 Speaker 1: or would be the list had the account of the stet. 537 00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:48,280 Speaker 1: But yeah, Julius Peppers had one hundred and fifty nine 538 00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:51,080 Speaker 1: and a half sacks. You know, in retrospect, you probably 539 00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:53,560 Speaker 1: should have taken him first overall in two thousand and 540 00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:56,240 Speaker 1: two if you were the Texans, but you didn't. Different story, 541 00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:59,520 Speaker 1: different podcast. I'm going with Peppers and his one hundred 542 00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:02,000 Speaker 1: fifty nine and a half sacks. He's probably gonna be 543 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:04,440 Speaker 1: coming off the bench to help out. That's how stacked 544 00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:06,920 Speaker 1: I think my line is. You know, I'm gonna stick 545 00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:09,280 Speaker 1: with the defensive line from my pick Drew. And if 546 00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:11,760 Speaker 1: my math is correct, we have three three left correct 547 00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:14,760 Speaker 1: for today? Two left. We've we've taken you've taken six, 548 00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:20,320 Speaker 1: and I've taken six. Okay, you've taken Miller, Manning, Sanders, Campbell, 549 00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:23,840 Speaker 1: Thomas and Jones he got oh okay, well yeah, yeah, yeah, 550 00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:26,800 Speaker 1: I I have somebody counted on my list twice. Okay, 551 00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:29,280 Speaker 1: so we have two left now. When I look at 552 00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:35,000 Speaker 1: my defensive line, I got Bruce Smith plays on the edge. J. J. 553 00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:37,720 Speaker 1: Watt can play out on the edge. Von Miller definitely 554 00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:40,960 Speaker 1: plays on the edge. Aaron Donald plays so wide on 555 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:42,920 Speaker 1: the inside it's almost like he's playing on the edge. 556 00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:46,520 Speaker 1: I need somebody on the inside. I need somebody that 557 00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:49,000 Speaker 1: anchors down on the inside. And I think a guy 558 00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:52,880 Speaker 1: that anchors down on the inside and anchored down on 559 00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:56,640 Speaker 1: the inside and was as good as anybody had been, 560 00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:59,240 Speaker 1: even though he probably didn't get all the acclaim because 561 00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:02,560 Speaker 1: he played for this out of Seahawks. He was a 562 00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:06,680 Speaker 1: monster in college and then was even that and then 563 00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:11,480 Speaker 1: some from the Seahawks numbers might take Hall of Famer 564 00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:15,760 Speaker 1: Cortez Kennedy, the late Cortez Kennedy, and man, what a 565 00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:18,920 Speaker 1: ball player he was, but just a bright light in 566 00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:22,320 Speaker 1: the Seattle community when he went out there. Such a 567 00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:25,360 Speaker 1: sad passing. But Cortez Kennedy on the inside just gives 568 00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:30,480 Speaker 1: me size and an interior player, because I look at it. 569 00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:32,440 Speaker 1: I got a bunch of edge guys to go along 570 00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:35,760 Speaker 1: with Aaron Donald. So I don't know how well we 571 00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:37,960 Speaker 1: hold up against the run, but I know Cortes Kennedy 572 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:39,560 Speaker 1: is gonna make it a little bit easier, that's for sure. 573 00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:43,160 Speaker 1: For sure. Yeah, that's a good choice. I'm gonna stay 574 00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:47,200 Speaker 1: on the inside too. You took from the Buccaneers, you 575 00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:49,920 Speaker 1: took I think the best buccaneer ever. Derek Brooks. Yes, 576 00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:53,000 Speaker 1: I think I'm gonna take the second bus best buccaneer ever. 577 00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:56,320 Speaker 1: I'm gonna stay on the inside because you got to 578 00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:59,160 Speaker 1: have some death like you're talking about. I'm gonna go 579 00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:03,760 Speaker 1: with another the Hurricane gold wren Sap All right, that 580 00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:07,560 Speaker 1: was fun, as it always is. We've got Round four 581 00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:12,280 Speaker 1: next week. You want to hear every second of every 582 00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:14,800 Speaker 1: draft that we have done. Go check out our podcast 583 00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:17,360 Speaker 1: page in the lab us the Texas dot Com. Go 584 00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:19,400 Speaker 1: check it out, subscribe to it, give us a thumbs 585 00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:21,640 Speaker 1: up or whatever rating you want to give it. 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Our draft is 602 00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:37,560 Speaker 1: nearly in the books. Mark my running backs. As you 603 00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:42,800 Speaker 1: heard Barry Sanders and Earl Campbell. Now you see why 604 00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:45,640 Speaker 1: I'm confident my running backs might be better than Jim 605 00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:48,680 Speaker 1: Brown and Walter Payton. Look are you so this is 606 00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:52,560 Speaker 1: a draft for one season or multiple seasons? Look, I 607 00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:56,160 Speaker 1: can't Earl is fantastic. Barry Sanders, I mean, is he 608 00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:59,440 Speaker 1: the best ever? He's in the conversation. I think Walter 609 00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:02,760 Speaker 1: Payton is the best back ever. But then the Jim 610 00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:04,680 Speaker 1: Brown people tell me, no, you don't know what you're 611 00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:07,720 Speaker 1: talking about. All I see with Jim Brown, though, are 612 00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:11,000 Speaker 1: like black and white highlights and everything. Or I watched 613 00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:13,840 Speaker 1: The Dirty Dozen and or the movie with him and 614 00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:16,880 Speaker 1: Rachel Welsh. Look, I don't know. I love Jim Brown. 615 00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:21,200 Speaker 1: They're all great, They're all these arguments, these debates. Whatever 616 00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:23,120 Speaker 1: you say somebody's great. It's not like you're saying the 617 00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:25,839 Speaker 1: other guy's terrible. You know, they're all fantastic. So it's 618 00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:28,840 Speaker 1: kind of subjective at some point. Right, It's sort of 619 00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:32,560 Speaker 1: like Chris Simms saying that his number quarterback is Zach Wilson. 620 00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:35,000 Speaker 1: Number two is Trevor Lawrence. Number four is Kellen mont 621 00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:37,760 Speaker 1: It's just a different way of looking at it. Yeah, totally, 622 00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:40,840 Speaker 1: all right, Mark, it's gut reaction. We'll go around the 623 00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:44,000 Speaker 1: league and around the world for a couple of things 624 00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:47,520 Speaker 1: here domestically, not really around the world, but domestically. And 625 00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:50,160 Speaker 1: I'm gonna ask you this one right out of the shoot. 626 00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:56,520 Speaker 1: Due to issues with COVID, the state of Kentucky is 627 00:34:56,560 --> 00:35:02,320 Speaker 1: allowing high school seniors to repeat their senior year in sports. 628 00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:07,680 Speaker 1: Your gut reaction. I don't like it. I mean, I 629 00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:11,759 Speaker 1: feel horrible for them, But what about the juniors that 630 00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:14,120 Speaker 1: are going to be seniors. Now you have seniors in 631 00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:16,839 Speaker 1: the way, and those juniors don't get to repeat. I've 632 00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:19,240 Speaker 1: waited my whole high school life to be a senior, 633 00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:22,200 Speaker 1: and now I don't get that opportunity to compete as 634 00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:25,520 Speaker 1: a senior because I got this would be college age 635 00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:28,160 Speaker 1: guy in the way, and he might be even more mature. 636 00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:31,479 Speaker 1: And this is really rough on me, So I don't 637 00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:35,040 Speaker 1: like that. Maybe they need to form another level of team. Look, 638 00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:36,879 Speaker 1: I'm going through this now with my kid in high 639 00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:40,160 Speaker 1: school sports and everything. I sometimes feel like, you know, 640 00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:42,520 Speaker 1: there aren't enough jvs. You know. I know it's like 641 00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:45,160 Speaker 1: not everybody gets a participation trophy. But Johnny, to me, 642 00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:49,120 Speaker 1: it is about participation. It's about having enough levels for 643 00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:51,880 Speaker 1: everybody to play. I'm not saying everybody wins. I'm not 644 00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:54,919 Speaker 1: saying everything should be equal that way, but I love 645 00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:57,960 Speaker 1: the idea of everybody being able to participate. Even in college, 646 00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:02,399 Speaker 1: you have intramurals to play sports, right, and maybe that's 647 00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:05,200 Speaker 1: where these seniors look. Not everybody goes to college, but 648 00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:07,359 Speaker 1: maybe that's what we need to set our eyes on. 649 00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:09,560 Speaker 1: Or maybe there should be some sort of other league 650 00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:12,600 Speaker 1: or level. I know it's expensive, easier said than done, 651 00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:15,200 Speaker 1: but I don't like it. That's my gut reaction. Okay, 652 00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:20,880 Speaker 1: gut reaction on this one. I'll just read this from 653 00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:22,719 Speaker 1: guy named Matthew Fairburn. I think he works for the 654 00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:26,640 Speaker 1: Athletic Yeah, he's a Buffalo Bills beat writer for the athletic. Okay, 655 00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:31,840 Speaker 1: he says, and I quote source confirmed Albert Breer's report 656 00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:37,560 Speaker 1: that the Bills proposed a rule change pushing back the 657 00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:41,600 Speaker 1: timeline on front office and coaching interviews to be on 658 00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:46,040 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. Your gut reaction, not gonna work, not 659 00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:49,360 Speaker 1: gonna happen. Let's say I'm a hot candidate. You know, 660 00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:51,840 Speaker 1: I'm Eric b enemy and my team happens to lose 661 00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:53,880 Speaker 1: on wildcard weekend, or I don't make the playoffs at all, 662 00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:55,920 Speaker 1: but I'm still a hot candidate, so I'm not supposed 663 00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:59,080 Speaker 1: to interview till after the Super Bowl is over. I'm free, 664 00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:02,480 Speaker 1: they're free. Why can't we interview? I know it's stinks. 665 00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:06,680 Speaker 1: It's terrible the weeks go on the candidates aren't available 666 00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:08,680 Speaker 1: to interview. But I thought we kind of took care 667 00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:10,760 Speaker 1: of that to an extent this year with the Zoom 668 00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:14,440 Speaker 1: interviews and if you had to buy, you could interview, 669 00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:17,520 Speaker 1: and they opened the door to that. So I think 670 00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:20,600 Speaker 1: you keep that door open and the problem gets solved. Look, 671 00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:23,040 Speaker 1: if everyone's looking at the enemy as a reason why 672 00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:26,840 Speaker 1: these things aren't happening, be enemy interviewed, right, The enemy 673 00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:30,800 Speaker 1: interviewed a lot, and didn't he interview for all seven openings, 674 00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:32,880 Speaker 1: and he didn't get any of them. And I'm not 675 00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:35,839 Speaker 1: saying it's all his fault and he's not worthy. I'm 676 00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:38,000 Speaker 1: not saying that. I'm just saying that he got a 677 00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:41,839 Speaker 1: look at the very least, and I don't think that's 678 00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:44,320 Speaker 1: why he did not get the job. Maybe you should 679 00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:47,520 Speaker 1: make it so the people interview and can fly into 680 00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:49,520 Speaker 1: the city where the assistant coaches and they can meet 681 00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:51,759 Speaker 1: up in a hotel conference room or something like that. 682 00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:54,360 Speaker 1: In a non COVID world, I would go for something 683 00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:57,120 Speaker 1: like that, Johnny, I don't like this rule proposal. Even 684 00:37:57,239 --> 00:37:59,799 Speaker 1: McDermott was saying, I can see both sides of this. Yeah, 685 00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:02,040 Speaker 1: no kidding, you could see both sides of it, because 686 00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:04,040 Speaker 1: it's not gonna work for people who are available in 687 00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:06,200 Speaker 1: the teams who are looking for the opening to be filled. 688 00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:10,400 Speaker 1: I would imagine the bills, and it's interesting because I 689 00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:14,719 Speaker 1: think the bills were impacted potentially. Leslie Fraser did interview here, 690 00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:17,200 Speaker 1: thought to be one of the final two final three 691 00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:20,480 Speaker 1: for the opportunity. Here in Houston, you had Brian Dabel, 692 00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:23,920 Speaker 1: who pulled himself out basically after he didn't get the 693 00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:26,759 Speaker 1: charter's job. That went to Brandon Staley, but that I did. 694 00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:30,600 Speaker 1: Brandon Staley got that job after the Rams lost and 695 00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:35,000 Speaker 1: the Bills won. So as the Bills continued on, the 696 00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:38,000 Speaker 1: Chargers jumped in and said, even though Telesco and Dabel 697 00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:41,120 Speaker 1: went to high school together, complicated but kind of interesting. 698 00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:43,200 Speaker 1: The Bills were the ones that put that one out there, 699 00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:45,759 Speaker 1: not the Chiefs, but the Bills put that one out there. 700 00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:50,879 Speaker 1: GM Mike Mayock of the Dang It find me. Las 701 00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:56,240 Speaker 1: Vegas Raiders and John Gruden asked today about Russell Wilson said, oh, 702 00:38:56,280 --> 00:39:00,480 Speaker 1: that's tampering. Then they were asked about Derek Carr, and 703 00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:05,919 Speaker 1: they said they've been fairly happy with Derek Carr. Even 704 00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:08,600 Speaker 1: though there's all these swirling rumors and things out there, 705 00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:11,200 Speaker 1: they feel pretty confident Derek Carr will be the quarterback 706 00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:13,920 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty one in Las Vegas. Your gut reaction, 707 00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:17,480 Speaker 1: I think you can win with Derek Carr, and I 708 00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:21,600 Speaker 1: think that the Raiders have issues other than Derek Carr. Right. 709 00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:24,239 Speaker 1: I'm not saying Derek Carr is the best quarterback in 710 00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:26,520 Speaker 1: the league. He might not even be top eight or 711 00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:29,160 Speaker 1: top ten, but I still think you can win with 712 00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:33,799 Speaker 1: Derek Carr. Now, is Russell Wilson better? Absolutely better, no 713 00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:37,200 Speaker 1: question about that. But Russell Wilson to be had is 714 00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:39,920 Speaker 1: gonna cost you a lot. It's gonna be a team gutter. 715 00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:43,759 Speaker 1: You know these big quarterback trade proposals, and you know 716 00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:47,520 Speaker 1: what we're talking about. For the team acquiring the quarterback, 717 00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:52,520 Speaker 1: they have to give up a lot draft picks, current players, 718 00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:56,279 Speaker 1: whatever suits, I don't know, but whatever they need to 719 00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:59,080 Speaker 1: and plus they gotta pay the guy, right, So that 720 00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:03,919 Speaker 1: is not easy. I just think that, Yeah, it's hard 721 00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:06,520 Speaker 1: for me because I do like Derek as a person. 722 00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:09,080 Speaker 1: I think you can win with Derek. You and I 723 00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:12,400 Speaker 1: saw it in person in Mexico City played the Raiders. 724 00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:16,080 Speaker 1: I thought Derek Carr was a real up and coming superstar. 725 00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:20,640 Speaker 1: Perhaps not definitely, but perhaps had the potential. That night, 726 00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:24,040 Speaker 1: he was electric man. He was just chucking it, willing 727 00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:26,719 Speaker 1: his team to win, making big plays in the fourth 728 00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:29,880 Speaker 1: quarter to put the Raiders over the top. Nobody was 729 00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:32,800 Speaker 1: flashing the laser beam in his eyes, which helped obviously 730 00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:36,360 Speaker 1: that particular evening. But I like Derek. Again, I'm not 731 00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:38,440 Speaker 1: saying he's elite, but I think you can win with him. 732 00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:40,800 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what, that was one of the crazier 733 00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:44,560 Speaker 1: nights of broadcasting, just on a number of different levels. 734 00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:48,719 Speaker 1: But I would absolutely, without a doubt go back to 735 00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:51,360 Speaker 1: Mexico City for a game. Now, I would go to 736 00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:54,240 Speaker 1: London first. I would want to go to London first, 737 00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:57,000 Speaker 1: but I would absolutely. You started talking about that game, 738 00:40:57,040 --> 00:41:00,239 Speaker 1: the whole thing started flashing my mind. I was like, man, 739 00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:03,279 Speaker 1: that was a really fun night until the end, and 740 00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:04,760 Speaker 1: then we had to wait like an hour and fifteen 741 00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:06,880 Speaker 1: minutes to leave because they had to let the Raiders 742 00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:09,399 Speaker 1: go out ahead of us because the Raiders won. Which 743 00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:12,680 Speaker 1: whatever was was our wireless equipment working okay? Or were 744 00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:14,840 Speaker 1: you in another position? Then? Oh? I was fine. I 745 00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:18,200 Speaker 1: was actually fine. It worked that night. But what happened 746 00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:22,000 Speaker 1: in the late second quarter is my battery went out, 747 00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:25,160 Speaker 1: and because Josie had put a new battery in there, 748 00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:28,160 Speaker 1: I didn't take one with me, and Ken had to 749 00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:30,600 Speaker 1: run all the way down the ram up the steps 750 00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:33,200 Speaker 1: and got me one about two minutes before the half ended, 751 00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:35,520 Speaker 1: so I could talk to O'Brien. But yeah, the equipment 752 00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:38,040 Speaker 1: worked pretty well that night, which was I think probably 753 00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:40,440 Speaker 1: one of the bigger upsets of the entire night. All right, 754 00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:44,760 Speaker 1: and we lost. So let's move on the virtual combine. 755 00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:47,719 Speaker 1: The NFL Virtual Combine. We talked about this a little bit. 756 00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:54,080 Speaker 1: Three hundred and twenty three potential NFL players were invited 757 00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:58,360 Speaker 1: to the virtual Combine. I don't even know if it 758 00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:00,680 Speaker 1: worked or not, but this is just really kind of 759 00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:04,000 Speaker 1: my guilty pleasure way of saying, your gut reaction to 760 00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:08,680 Speaker 1: the one thing you'll miss the most in Indianapolis other 761 00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:15,880 Speaker 1: than dinner. Dinner is always good man, you just answered it. 762 00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:18,960 Speaker 1: I think that's it. It's connected with people. You know, 763 00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:22,239 Speaker 1: it's what we all miss about COVID life, you know, 764 00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:25,719 Speaker 1: connecting with people. And in Indie, it's connecting with all 765 00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:30,399 Speaker 1: the people within all layers of NFL organizations. And look, 766 00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:33,719 Speaker 1: we've been there even while pr is having a convention 767 00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:37,840 Speaker 1: in marketing and different departments that you wouldn't think of 768 00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:41,279 Speaker 1: are there. I think it's super cool and I can't 769 00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:43,359 Speaker 1: wait to get back to it next year. Maybe it'll 770 00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:45,319 Speaker 1: be in LA. Who knows how they set it all up. 771 00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:46,880 Speaker 1: I think I don't think it'll be as good. I 772 00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:50,200 Speaker 1: think Indie, you gotta leave it there. And I know 773 00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:51,799 Speaker 1: we talk about it a lot of our listeners like 774 00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:54,360 Speaker 1: stop talking about the Combine. We're not there with you, 775 00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:56,360 Speaker 1: but we try to take you there, right, We do 776 00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:58,160 Speaker 1: our best to take you there, as we do our 777 00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:01,080 Speaker 1: shows from there and all the video stuff. So I'll 778 00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:03,319 Speaker 1: miss it. I miss it. And you know, the next 779 00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:06,360 Speaker 1: thing on the calendar here is this month owners meetings 780 00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:08,520 Speaker 1: that are not going to happen the way they normally do. 781 00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:10,839 Speaker 1: I'm sure they'll do it virtually. I haven't even checked 782 00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:13,399 Speaker 1: this yet, Johnny, but there's no way they're gonna get 783 00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:16,680 Speaker 1: together at the Biltmore in Phoenix this year, no shot. Yeah, 784 00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:18,520 Speaker 1: I wouldn't think so. I think one of the things, 785 00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:21,719 Speaker 1: probably the one thing that is to me. I had 786 00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:24,480 Speaker 1: always watched the Combine from far and finally got a 787 00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:28,920 Speaker 1: chance to go with you in twenty fifteen, and every 788 00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:32,280 Speaker 1: site that I follow, every Twitter account I look at, 789 00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:36,200 Speaker 1: would quote something from the Combine and I'm like, yeah, 790 00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:38,799 Speaker 1: I saw that happen. Yeah, I saw that interview. I 791 00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:41,160 Speaker 1: was standing right next to John Gruden in line at 792 00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:45,040 Speaker 1: Panera or wherever. I mean, it's like you're right in 793 00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:49,040 Speaker 1: the middle of the biggest going on in the NFL 794 00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:52,360 Speaker 1: at that point, and that's pretty cool. What's really cool 795 00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:54,520 Speaker 1: was Mark you joining me tonight thank you for your time, 796 00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:57,240 Speaker 1: my friend. Thank you Johnny. There's a show in the books, 797 00:43:57,600 --> 00:43:59,680 Speaker 1: Mark and I'll be back tomorrow night. The General will 798 00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:03,720 Speaker 1: be with us. Appreciate you guys. Listen as always, Go Texas.