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Speaker 1: Welcome back to another episode of a Bachelor Happy Hour,

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Speaker 1: and of course we bring you a new week, new drama,

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Speaker 1: and a lot went down, and while of course we

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Speaker 1: love to recap Rachel, we have somebody very special joining

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Speaker 1: us on the podcast today, which is the most eligible

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Speaker 1: Bachelor himself. Of course, we had to get Matt James

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Speaker 1: on here, and if you can hear Minnow in the background,

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Speaker 1: she is She's got the squeaker toy rity. She's ready

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Speaker 1: to awesome Matt. We all do it. Yeah, but before

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Speaker 1: we do, because I know all of you have just

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Speaker 1: been anticipating us finally sitting down and chatting with him.

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Speaker 1: And thankfully to anyone who submitted questions, we so appreciate that.

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Speaker 1: I just wanted to take two seconds to acknowledge that, yes,

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Speaker 1: it is Tuesday, We've already seen two episodes of The

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Speaker 1: Bachelor air. But I don't want to undermine the fact

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Speaker 1: that a lot has happened in our country in the

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Speaker 1: past week, and so we want to acknowledge it here

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Speaker 1: and to give our thoughts and prayers to everyone affected

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Speaker 1: with the protests and the riots and the terrorist acts

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Speaker 1: that happened at the capitol last week. Rachel I know,

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Speaker 1: I'm sure you'll go into depth on some of your

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Speaker 1: other podcasts about it, but we don't want to, you know,

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Speaker 1: breeze over the fact that there's a lot of heaviness

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Speaker 1: happening in our country and it's so important to now

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Speaker 1: more than ever, band together and really remember what our

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Speaker 1: country stands for, which is something that we haven't necessarily

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Speaker 1: seen a lot of in this past especially past year.

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Speaker 1: So you know, our thoughts and prayers again are to

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Speaker 1: the families and people affected within that. But hopefully this

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Speaker 1: can be a nice outlet for everybody and we'll just

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Speaker 1: get into the show and have a lighthearted, fun conversation

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Speaker 1: with each other. And with bringing Matt on, absolutely I

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Speaker 1: very well setback. The only thing I would add is,

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Speaker 1: you guys, what we've seen transpire in twenty twenty one up,

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Speaker 1: which we were quickly reminded, is just another date on

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Speaker 1: the calend. Everything didn't get left in twenty twenty. You know,

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Speaker 1: ask yourself, is this the America that we want? What

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Speaker 1: does America mean to you? It truly cannot mean what

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Speaker 1: we saw transpire in a historic way last week at

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Speaker 1: our nation's capital. So it's crazy because last week we said,

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Speaker 1: you know, what let's all just be better. Well, that

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Speaker 1: message carries into this podcast. Let's let's just be better, guys,

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Speaker 1: let's just do better. Let's hold people accountable, and let's

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Speaker 1: bring this nation back to what it once was. The

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Speaker 1: phrase United we Stand doesn't seem right right now, so

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Speaker 1: let's let's find our way back to it. Let's let's

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Speaker 1: get back there. Yes, and speaking of getting back, let's

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Speaker 1: get back to the Bachelor talk. Because we originally were like,

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Speaker 1: you know what, we're gonna do a whole recap, We're

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Speaker 1: gonna break down this episode. But why break down the

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Speaker 1: episode when you have the man of the hour, So

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Speaker 1: let's just get right to it. You guys have heard

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Speaker 1: from matches, probably on someone's in someone's magazine or someone's

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Speaker 1: media outlet. But let me remind you those are five

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Speaker 1: to ten minute interviews, not even ten. I know I

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Speaker 1: have Matt for an hour plus, which means we get

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Speaker 1: to delve into all those questions that you may have,

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Speaker 1: and Matt has the opportunity to ask answer those questions.

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Speaker 1: I need to see down right now, minnow, is everybody

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Speaker 1: right now? Minto's bastination mento I get it. I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: get right to it. That's mental telling me we gotta

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Speaker 1: Mento is the VI. We've got the man himself. We've

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Speaker 1: got him at great length where he can talk to

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Speaker 1: us and, as I said, delve into everything we want

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Speaker 1: how he got here, and kind of what to expect

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Speaker 1: this season. So this is the moment you've been waiting for.

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Speaker 1: We have our current first Black Bachelor matchings. Well, Matt,

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Speaker 1: we finally have you on probably one of the most

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Speaker 1: anticipated interviews we've had everyone sliding into our DMS four.

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Speaker 1: So welcome to Happy We're so happy to have you here. Yeah, Hey, Rachel,

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Speaker 1: Hey Becca, thank you for having me. It's good to

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Speaker 1: be here, of course. Yeah. So, um, I feel like

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Speaker 1: it's been odd with you, right because you were announced

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Speaker 1: had to watch two other seasons. I mean, we didn't

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Speaker 1: it's your seasons finally airing, we're meeting the women that

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Speaker 1: it feel so real? It's weird hearing myself on TV,

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Speaker 1: know because, like Rachel said, usually when anyone has announced

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Speaker 1: you taking it all in and like soaking it all in? No,

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Speaker 1: I thank goodness, I was. I was in Florida with

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Speaker 1: Tyler quarantining, so like, and he someone who who's already

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Speaker 1: So it was nice being with him, and we just

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Speaker 1: kept our schedule. You know, we wake up, we're go

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Speaker 1: I didn't let it. Like again, we were just trying

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Speaker 1: So it was it was empowering, Rachel, and it's it's

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Speaker 1: that's what a black relationship looks like, or like why

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Speaker 1: and I think I did that, And that conversation comes

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Speaker 1: my goal is to get married, and marriage comes kids,

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Speaker 1: and our kids are gonna have some sort of pigmentation.

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Speaker 1: come up with this like crazy thought out of left field,

429
00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:03,200
Speaker 1: Like I'm just going to tell you how I feel

430
00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:06,240
Speaker 1: at the moment, and like that's who I am. You

431
00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:12,399
Speaker 1: will kill yourself trying to be please everyone. It's just impossible, yeah, right,

432
00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:14,639
Speaker 1: And I and I will say this is something that

433
00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:16,879
Speaker 1: I mentioned to Rachel on last week's podcast when we

434
00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:20,720
Speaker 1: were covering the premiere is we both mentioned how endearing

435
00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:23,600
Speaker 1: it was that you had never gone through this before,

436
00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:27,080
Speaker 1: because you you know, sometimes when you know what to expect,

437
00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:29,960
Speaker 1: you go into it, you know, knowing the right things

438
00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:32,800
Speaker 1: to say and how to act, and if something happens, okay,

439
00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:34,359
Speaker 1: you know the producers are going to be there to

440
00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:37,000
Speaker 1: help you and you know, build you up and make

441
00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:40,760
Speaker 1: you look good. And it was it was fun as

442
00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:43,480
Speaker 1: a viewer who truly like, this is the first season

443
00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:46,240
Speaker 1: where I really have no idea what's going on or

444
00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:49,920
Speaker 1: like you know, any spoilers whatsoever. And so it's been

445
00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:54,360
Speaker 1: endearing and fun to watch you navigated really in your

446
00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:57,360
Speaker 1: own way and make it so unique to you. And

447
00:23:57,440 --> 00:23:59,199
Speaker 1: so I just want to say that, you know, at

448
00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:00,600
Speaker 1: the top of this time, and I know we've been

449
00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:02,200
Speaker 1: talking for a little bit, but to let you know

450
00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:04,800
Speaker 1: that I'm sure it was nerve wracking and you did

451
00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:07,760
Speaker 1: feel that pressure, but I think for a lot of people,

452
00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:10,520
Speaker 1: they actually really enjoy the fact that that this is

453
00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:12,639
Speaker 1: your first time, this is your first go at this.

454
00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:17,480
Speaker 1: Thank you. Yeah. No, I I legitimately didn't know what

455
00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:20,399
Speaker 1: to expect, like that first Rose ceremony, like I literally

456
00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:23,080
Speaker 1: couldn't speak, Like I couldn't get words out because I

457
00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:26,880
Speaker 1: was so nervous and I felt horrible sending great women

458
00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:28,320
Speaker 1: home that I didn't have a chance to speak to,

459
00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:30,359
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It's like like I felt

460
00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:34,440
Speaker 1: so bad and that was real, and everything I felt

461
00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:37,440
Speaker 1: throughout that whole process was real because like I didn't know,

462
00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:41,920
Speaker 1: like I didn't know how the dynamics of a group

463
00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:44,760
Speaker 1: they were, or how after a party or a cocktail

464
00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:47,760
Speaker 1: hour work, like like things were happening in real time

465
00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:49,640
Speaker 1: and I'm just dealing with them like some random dude

466
00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:51,240
Speaker 1: off the street, Like yo, go in there and do this,

467
00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:53,080
Speaker 1: and like that's how I was like kind of handling

468
00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:56,080
Speaker 1: every situation. So I felt like I could relate to

469
00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:58,679
Speaker 1: the women from a standpoint of like, look, we're going

470
00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:01,440
Speaker 1: through this together, Like I I don't know what to expect,

471
00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:05,000
Speaker 1: like I'm but what I can do is be my

472
00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:09,280
Speaker 1: authentic self and be vulnerable with you, so that that

473
00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:11,199
Speaker 1: opens up and sets the stage in the floor for

474
00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:13,320
Speaker 1: you to be open and vulnerable, because if we're here,

475
00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:14,560
Speaker 1: we might as well go for it, you know what

476
00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:16,400
Speaker 1: I mean. Like I'm not gonna waste your time. I'm

477
00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:18,600
Speaker 1: gonna meet you where you're at. And that's what I

478
00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:23,760
Speaker 1: tried to do. I appreciate that, you know, be unapologetically

479
00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:26,880
Speaker 1: yourself like Becca and I said, And Becca just told

480
00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:30,400
Speaker 1: you it was endearing that you were nervous. You could tell,

481
00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:32,960
Speaker 1: but it was like, oh, he's not out here trying

482
00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:36,520
Speaker 1: to be the next a batchelor. He saw before, you know.

483
00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:39,880
Speaker 1: And so I want to talk about your first night.

484
00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:42,960
Speaker 1: I want to step into that and once this is

485
00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:45,520
Speaker 1: what I mean about. You can't please everybody. Ooh, people,

486
00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:51,600
Speaker 1: you do something we've never seen before, which personally I

487
00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:56,280
Speaker 1: loved you open up in prayer and you didn't just

488
00:25:56,359 --> 00:26:01,480
Speaker 1: start praying. You didn't order people to clasp their hands

489
00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:04,359
Speaker 1: together and close their eyes and bow their heads. You

490
00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:08,080
Speaker 1: explain what you do. I'm nervous, and this is what

491
00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:10,879
Speaker 1: I do, and I lean on because guess what, I'm

492
00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:14,440
Speaker 1: the bachelor. Y'all almost said I'm the MS bachelor. I

493
00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:19,680
Speaker 1: have cleaned it up. I'm the bachelor. I am looking

494
00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:21,800
Speaker 1: for a wife. It is important that we're on the

495
00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:24,359
Speaker 1: same page. We don't need to wait till the last

496
00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:26,639
Speaker 1: minute to find out things about each other. My faith

497
00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:29,160
Speaker 1: is important to me. This is what I do. So

498
00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:31,159
Speaker 1: I am going to open up in prayer. You know,

499
00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:34,120
Speaker 1: it's like participate if you if you want to. Are

500
00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:38,760
Speaker 1: you shocked that people were offended by the fact that

501
00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:42,280
Speaker 1: you opened up your opening speech was a prayer, No,

502
00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:47,760
Speaker 1: I'm not. You know every people are are are sensitive

503
00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:53,600
Speaker 1: and and I'll say this like that, that's the least

504
00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:56,480
Speaker 1: of a gesture I could do for someone who sacrificed

505
00:26:56,520 --> 00:27:01,680
Speaker 1: their life for me. So like if if praying for

506
00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:05,760
Speaker 1: and for a group of women is ever a bad thing,

507
00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:07,480
Speaker 1: that I don't want to be a part of of

508
00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:12,119
Speaker 1: what's good because that's that's that's where my piece comes from.

509
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:16,240
Speaker 1: That's where my values and what I believe in comes from.

510
00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:19,359
Speaker 1: And I'll never that being said, I'll never force it

511
00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:22,240
Speaker 1: on anybody because guess what, My brother's an atheist and

512
00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:25,119
Speaker 1: I would die for him, and you'll see that throughout

513
00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:26,720
Speaker 1: the season like I would never I'm not gonna push

514
00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:29,600
Speaker 1: religion on anybody because guess what, you can't You can't

515
00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:32,400
Speaker 1: push anything on anybody. He's gonna do what they want

516
00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:34,000
Speaker 1: to do. At the end of the day. All I

517
00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:36,320
Speaker 1: can do is show them where I get my strength from.

518
00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:38,720
Speaker 1: And show them that where I go to and my

519
00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:42,360
Speaker 1: tnue of like darrests and sorrow, so that you understand

520
00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:44,280
Speaker 1: where I'm coming from and you see where my decision

521
00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:46,720
Speaker 1: making comes from. Because if you see me doing something,

522
00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:48,960
Speaker 1: I don't want you to ever be a question where

523
00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:50,639
Speaker 1: it's coming from, because it's going to align with my

524
00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:54,280
Speaker 1: views and beliefs. And like that being said, if that's

525
00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:57,080
Speaker 1: not something you're comfortable with, then like then we're just

526
00:27:57,119 --> 00:27:58,679
Speaker 1: not meant to be with each other. But like I

527
00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:02,040
Speaker 1: would never ostracize and for not being and sharing my faith.

528
00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:04,040
Speaker 1: But I hope that through the way I lived my

529
00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:06,080
Speaker 1: life and caring myself, they'd be curious as to why

530
00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:08,919
Speaker 1: I am that way, you know what I mean? Come on, Matthew,

531
00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:11,920
Speaker 1: as I love to point out Rebecca Rachel and Matthew,

532
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:17,520
Speaker 1: did you? I want to know this too, because I

533
00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:20,280
Speaker 1: feel like it could be in that setting very telling

534
00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:25,399
Speaker 1: of who is into that and who is recurprocating, you know,

535
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:27,960
Speaker 1: on the level of faith. So did you? I mean,

536
00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:31,520
Speaker 1: obviously there's probably a ton of emotions going through your body,

537
00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:34,000
Speaker 1: and if it was me, I probably would have blacked

538
00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:35,760
Speaker 1: out the second I entered the room when there was

539
00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:37,399
Speaker 1: like thirty plus men in front of me. I was like,

540
00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:39,000
Speaker 1: oh my god, I don't know what I'm saying. I

541
00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:41,440
Speaker 1: don't know where am I what is my name? But

542
00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:43,440
Speaker 1: did you was it a way for you to kind

543
00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:46,040
Speaker 1: of pick up on who appreciated that, who was like

544
00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:49,160
Speaker 1: giving you like the compassion and the faith and the

545
00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:51,760
Speaker 1: love back To be honest, I do not eat it.

546
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:54,440
Speaker 1: I wasn't even about that like I was. I was, literally,

547
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:57,440
Speaker 1: like you said, Becca, when I walked in there, I

548
00:28:57,560 --> 00:28:59,400
Speaker 1: had I had six months to think about what I

549
00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:00,800
Speaker 1: was gonna say to these women. So I'm like, yeah,

550
00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:02,640
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go in there. I'm gonna kill it. I'm

551
00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:05,800
Speaker 1: like barely making it in there, like I'm shaking, like

552
00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:07,920
Speaker 1: and then I see all the women in there. I

553
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:11,120
Speaker 1: had nothing, There was nothing in my head. There was

554
00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:14,880
Speaker 1: nothing to say. My man, I don't know what to say.

555
00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:17,000
Speaker 1: Let me pray real quick. And then that just like

556
00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:20,440
Speaker 1: center me, got me back on track. And and and

557
00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:22,840
Speaker 1: that's something that like it should be like when someone

558
00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:24,560
Speaker 1: says they're gonna pray for you, like that's an honor,

559
00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:26,600
Speaker 1: Like why should it only be someone's gonna pray for you?

560
00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:28,560
Speaker 1: It's like, Yo, I heard your dad's in the hospital,

561
00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:29,840
Speaker 1: Like I'm gonna pray for you, you know, I heard

562
00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:32,360
Speaker 1: like praying for someone's Like that's a blessing to have

563
00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:34,280
Speaker 1: someone praying for you. That means they're thinking about you,

564
00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:36,680
Speaker 1: that care about you. Like I care about all the

565
00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:39,360
Speaker 1: women that were there, and I want them to have

566
00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:42,000
Speaker 1: I want them to be at peace, because if you're

567
00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:44,800
Speaker 1: not comfortable in that setting, then I'm not We're not

568
00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:46,560
Speaker 1: gonna get to know each other. Like if you're nervous,

569
00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:51,480
Speaker 1: if you're like thinking that I'm some like person that's unobtainable,

570
00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:54,080
Speaker 1: or that I'm like this figurehead, Like I want you

571
00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:56,080
Speaker 1: to see me as like one of y'all, and like

572
00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:58,720
Speaker 1: I'll just like try to humanize myself as much as

573
00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:00,720
Speaker 1: I could, whether it was off I'm rest saying some

574
00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:02,880
Speaker 1: gooviy shit to him, or whether it was like just

575
00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:06,400
Speaker 1: being like my authentic self, Like I wanted them to

576
00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:09,920
Speaker 1: see me as Matt, not the Bachelor, so that we

577
00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:12,360
Speaker 1: could get past all the bull and get into the

578
00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:14,760
Speaker 1: real stuff of like are we compatible? Like like what

579
00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:16,400
Speaker 1: are you? What are you looking for? Like can that?

580
00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:18,440
Speaker 1: Can I be that person? Because like as much as

581
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:21,720
Speaker 1: as much as like they're on the bachelor, like I'm

582
00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:25,680
Speaker 1: convincing them that, like I'm the I could be the man. Yeah,

583
00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:28,920
Speaker 1: so you probably, out of anyone other than I would

584
00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:32,120
Speaker 1: say maybe Claire as the lead, had the most time

585
00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:36,160
Speaker 1: to prepare for this role. And I want to know

586
00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:40,440
Speaker 1: to this is two our question. First, what did you

587
00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:44,360
Speaker 1: do mentally, mentally, physically, emotionally to help you prepare? And

588
00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:47,520
Speaker 1: then what was it like once you were at the

589
00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:49,760
Speaker 1: bouche or in front of all these women when they

590
00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:55,440
Speaker 1: literally look at you like this god, where you know

591
00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:57,400
Speaker 1: you can do no wrong and you're handsome and you're

592
00:30:57,480 --> 00:31:00,840
Speaker 1: charming and your the world's or the country's most eligible bachelor.

593
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:04,360
Speaker 1: What was like that? What was that like for you personally?

594
00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:06,959
Speaker 1: Because for me, I felt very uncomfortable by it. So

595
00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:09,120
Speaker 1: I want to know kind of if you felt similar

596
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:10,760
Speaker 1: a little bit different, if you soaked it in, if

597
00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:15,280
Speaker 1: you loved it. Um. But first, how did you prepare? Um?

598
00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:19,160
Speaker 1: That's a funny question because, uh, Mike Johnson had actually

599
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:22,160
Speaker 1: come up to stay with Tyler and I in New

600
00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:26,400
Speaker 1: York and this wasn't like January before I knew I

601
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:28,480
Speaker 1: was going to be on the Bachelorette, But there was

602
00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:31,360
Speaker 1: the opportunity and um, he saw me getting out of

603
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:34,000
Speaker 1: shower and I had to I just had I just

604
00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:36,360
Speaker 1: had a robe on. I just had a towel on.

605
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:41,680
Speaker 1: And he's like, uh, He's like, you gotta put some

606
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:45,040
Speaker 1: weight on, homey. He's like, your neck is so skinny

607
00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:47,240
Speaker 1: and you gotta He was just like he was basically

608
00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:51,200
Speaker 1: saying that he was just giving me the hardest times,

609
00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:52,720
Speaker 1: like you need to hit the gym, you need to

610
00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:54,360
Speaker 1: do this and that, and I was like looking at

611
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:56,920
Speaker 1: myself up like damn, and that week, so like I

612
00:31:56,960 --> 00:32:01,080
Speaker 1: just started working out a little bit more and um, honestly,

613
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:03,280
Speaker 1: like not to be repentant, but like I was just

614
00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:05,200
Speaker 1: in the words, like I was like reading my Bible

615
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:07,880
Speaker 1: and preparing myself for like to be around those women,

616
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:10,920
Speaker 1: because I wanted to have a strong mind and I

617
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:15,800
Speaker 1: wanted to make sure that like I was spiously and

618
00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:19,760
Speaker 1: physically mentally ready for just like asking someone like how

619
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:22,280
Speaker 1: do you prepare to fly a rocket ship? It's like,

620
00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:24,840
Speaker 1: I don't know anyone that's flowing a rocket ship, And

621
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:27,000
Speaker 1: when I get there, I'm gonna figure it out. So

622
00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:30,640
Speaker 1: as I got there, I'm like starting to understand. Because

623
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:33,040
Speaker 1: I came to Rachel, I came to you. I came

624
00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:35,880
Speaker 1: to Sean Lowe asking questions about what to expect, and

625
00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:38,600
Speaker 1: it's all good advice, but like nothing can prepare you

626
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:41,760
Speaker 1: for me. Nothing in there and you see all those women,

627
00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:45,400
Speaker 1: or when you're having an extremely difficult conversation with somebody

628
00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:47,040
Speaker 1: that you know is going to go home and it's

629
00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:52,480
Speaker 1: like it's hard, like aren't you shocked? Weren't you shocked

630
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:54,560
Speaker 1: that because you kind of waltz in and you're like, oh,

631
00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:56,360
Speaker 1: if I'm not really feeling them, must in them home

632
00:32:56,400 --> 00:33:00,160
Speaker 1: and it's okay, but then like it breaks you. How

633
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:03,720
Speaker 1: to Sydney Cevil home? Are you surprised? And speak? I

634
00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:08,040
Speaker 1: couldn't get it? But I couldn't. I couldn't do it.

635
00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:11,120
Speaker 1: Like it's a testament to the women that were there,

636
00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:13,560
Speaker 1: like they're just there were great women, Like I didn't

637
00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:16,640
Speaker 1: think women like that were single, And as I'm getting

638
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:19,160
Speaker 1: to know them their story when they overcome while they're there,

639
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:21,600
Speaker 1: I'm just like, how am I going to come out

640
00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:24,360
Speaker 1: of this with with one woman? Like this is going

641
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:28,240
Speaker 1: to be so difficult? Um so, and and to your point,

642
00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:31,240
Speaker 1: bec like I tried to just like continue to humanize myself,

643
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:33,960
Speaker 1: like I just like tell them funny stories or just

644
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:37,080
Speaker 1: like just like joke with them, like off camera, just

645
00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:39,480
Speaker 1: so they didn't look at me as like it's like

646
00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:42,160
Speaker 1: important person. I'm just normal. I just happen to have

647
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:46,120
Speaker 1: a tuto, you know what I mean. Like, so let's

648
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:50,160
Speaker 1: get into the women. So we've met the women. Now,

649
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:55,280
Speaker 1: we've seen two episodes. You've experienced the whole season, but

650
00:33:55,960 --> 00:34:05,600
Speaker 1: off the off the job. Who was your favorite Limo entrance? Um,

651
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:09,879
Speaker 1: that's a good question. Um, To be honest with you,

652
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:14,640
Speaker 1: I was low key disappointed with MJ's entrance only because

653
00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:17,440
Speaker 1: I thought there was gonna be pizza in that box,

654
00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:21,319
Speaker 1: and the box is empty. There was no pizza in there.

655
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:23,320
Speaker 1: I was hungry too, because it's like one of the

656
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:26,400
Speaker 1: morning Yeah, but you got a mute ball from somebody.

657
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:31,360
Speaker 1: I got a meat ball. I was nasty. That was

658
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:34,040
Speaker 1: the biggest meat ball I've ever seen in my life.

659
00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:39,879
Speaker 1: That it was funny though, because like I enjoyed everybody's

660
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:41,920
Speaker 1: because it showed me a little bit about themselves, you

661
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:44,440
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like if you came and you

662
00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:47,080
Speaker 1: had some goat feet on, like you're bold, Like if

663
00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:50,000
Speaker 1: you came, she's my favorite. She was, And then you

664
00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:53,960
Speaker 1: sent her home, Matt Hey, it's like, it's like, you want,

665
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:57,359
Speaker 1: how do you It's it's splitting hair. Tell the truth.

666
00:34:57,440 --> 00:34:59,759
Speaker 1: Her feet were the most interesting thing about her that night,

667
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:03,759
Speaker 1: and that's why you had to send her. She took

668
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:05,799
Speaker 1: those shoes off, put on hills and he was like, oh,

669
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:11,920
Speaker 1: you gotta go. There was there anyone who because we

670
00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:14,600
Speaker 1: all have done this, especially when you have so many

671
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:17,160
Speaker 1: people that you're meeting and kind of throwing themselves at

672
00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:19,719
Speaker 1: you in such a short amount of time, it's this.

673
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:21,359
Speaker 1: I don't want this to sound bad, but it's kind

674
00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:23,160
Speaker 1: of easy to write some of them off. So was

675
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:26,000
Speaker 1: there anyone that at first year maybe not my type

676
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:28,000
Speaker 1: or not into it, but then they pleasantly surprised you

677
00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:34,719
Speaker 1: later on? Yes, can we get names? Of course, I'll

678
00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:36,680
Speaker 1: give your name, Bob, I give you. I'm gonna practice

679
00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:41,480
Speaker 1: it with only because that said person was so shy

680
00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:44,560
Speaker 1: that when I actually sat down and had a conversation

681
00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:50,360
Speaker 1: with her, I was blown away. But Matt, you dodged

682
00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:57,480
Speaker 1: the question who was your favorite Limo interests kid? Keep

683
00:35:57,480 --> 00:36:01,480
Speaker 1: in touch? Just short sweeten to the Paul because because

684
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:05,719
Speaker 1: she pulled up in a Bentley, she pulled up in

685
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 1: a bailey and her dress was beautiful. She was so

686
00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:11,359
Speaker 1: confident when she walked up and walked up to me,

687
00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:14,040
Speaker 1: like game, you like look like she could have like

688
00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:17,839
Speaker 1: she like kind of like dismissed our entrance. She's just like, like,

689
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:19,479
Speaker 1: my name is Kid, like Keith in touch, I didn't

690
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:20,880
Speaker 1: even get the same thing. She was like up the

691
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:23,160
Speaker 1: stairs like, I'm like, oh you like the word to

692
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:26,319
Speaker 1: get Kids said I live here? Oh would you like

693
00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:30,480
Speaker 1: the kid I live here? They were playing The Glamorous

694
00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:33,399
Speaker 1: Life in the background. When she rolled up. She said, oh, oh,

695
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:35,040
Speaker 1: thank you. You know, nice to meet you. But let

696
00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:39,759
Speaker 1: me go ahead and side. I got bed advibes from Kid.

697
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:41,800
Speaker 1: We all know how I love benness, so I love this.

698
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:43,759
Speaker 1: I already loved Kid. I already said she was one

699
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:46,640
Speaker 1: of my favorites. Love Kid. She is incredible. Like she

700
00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:49,520
Speaker 1: she's so she had so much depth to her and

701
00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:51,520
Speaker 1: the fact that she's one of the youngest people there

702
00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:56,480
Speaker 1: is says a lot. There's a good track record with

703
00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:59,440
Speaker 1: the baby Becca was what she was called, but she's

704
00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:02,200
Speaker 1: there's nothing baby about her. Beca Martinez was one of

705
00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:05,280
Speaker 1: my favorites on my season of the Bachelor. It was Krine,

706
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:09,520
Speaker 1: who was a fan favorite. And every season we've tried,

707
00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:15,600
Speaker 1: we've seen women try to be her Victoria and fell miserably,

708
00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:20,200
Speaker 1: fell miserably. If you're gonna be a villain, you gotta

709
00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:24,600
Speaker 1: be funny. Do you know what I'm saying? Like, we

710
00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:28,279
Speaker 1: haven't seen it yet. Oh gosh, we haven't seen it.

711
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:30,960
Speaker 1: She is one of the wittiest people I've ever met.

712
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:34,400
Speaker 1: Man that we haven't seen it. That's that's that's what

713
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:37,960
Speaker 1: I thought. Katie the Vibrator was pretty witty. She's funny.

714
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:44,800
Speaker 1: Katie is funny too. But Victoria, like she is unapologetically herself,

715
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:48,320
Speaker 1: Like she like I believe that. Like she's the quickest,

716
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:50,520
Speaker 1: Like you'll say something and she's got some and then

717
00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:54,760
Speaker 1: she's out. I'm like, what, Like what do you say? Okay, Matt,

718
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:57,200
Speaker 1: I want to go. I want to ask another two

719
00:37:57,200 --> 00:38:01,239
Speaker 1: part question. So for Night one, obviously we saw you

720
00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:04,120
Speaker 1: give Abigail the first impressure rose and you had the

721
00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:07,600
Speaker 1: sweet moment where you kissed her. How many girls night?

722
00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:11,839
Speaker 1: When did you kiss oh Um too? And you saw

723
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:17,080
Speaker 1: all them, You saw Alna with the spaghetti, there was

724
00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:19,759
Speaker 1: Hella cold and then yeah, I want to talk to

725
00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:24,200
Speaker 1: you about that. And then um Abigail. So another thing

726
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:27,880
Speaker 1: black folks were talking about is that you ate the spaghetti.

727
00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:31,920
Speaker 1: And you know, we don't eat other people's food unless

728
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:39,040
Speaker 1: we know what that kitchen looks like people on every day.

729
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:40,920
Speaker 1: That was going through my head when I hate it,

730
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:43,840
Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, I just ate this. I want to

731
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:48,480
Speaker 1: do it too. You had you had anything all the time,

732
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:55,479
Speaker 1: I couldn't be ruing, But man, you would hand bag.

733
00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:59,400
Speaker 1: He has to. You're playing the game. Joy. I couldn't

734
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:05,040
Speaker 1: deny the bell. That's so funny, Like we would die.

735
00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:06,719
Speaker 1: I was like, you know, if we we gotta see

736
00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:08,080
Speaker 1: where we got to know what your kids. It looks

737
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:12,600
Speaker 1: like we can't eat your food from anywhere. You know.

738
00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:19,000
Speaker 1: She did not make those noodles herself. They didn't look

739
00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:22,600
Speaker 1: like it. They didn't They didn't have butter olive oil. Nothing.

740
00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:27,799
Speaker 1: You couldn't tell. Oh, I was gonna say something about

741
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:31,640
Speaker 1: the first night at the first date. I know, I'm

742
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:34,640
Speaker 1: gonna just go dive into episode two. I have this

743
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:40,520
Speaker 1: question now, be honest, all right, That orchid is part

744
00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:47,320
Speaker 1: of the art set, That orchid is part of the

745
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:51,840
Speaker 1: design of the room. Question. It was in my notes.

746
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:57,560
Speaker 1: It was not that that flower was very hard to

747
00:39:57,600 --> 00:40:01,160
Speaker 1: come across. It was Maryland's favorite hour, and I had

748
00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:03,920
Speaker 1: to go to great length to obtain that it was

749
00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:06,880
Speaker 1: over the river and through the woods. I had to

750
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:13,200
Speaker 1: go said, look at this shit. Matt went and got

751
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:16,000
Speaker 1: a prop from the art department. I was. I was.

752
00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:18,319
Speaker 1: It was the funniest moment of the whole episode to me.

753
00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:20,520
Speaker 1: He said, look what I've got you, I said, Matt,

754
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:27,800
Speaker 1: I was dying, laughing, laughing, Okay, it was. It was sweet.

755
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:29,719
Speaker 1: I feel I feel bad for her. I did have

756
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:32,920
Speaker 1: one question for your first one on one date. You

757
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:36,480
Speaker 1: go a TV, but then you have to chop your

758
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:39,880
Speaker 1: own wood for this hot tub. Why was the ax

759
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:44,520
Speaker 1: Either you're really big or that axe was so damn small.

760
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:47,560
Speaker 1: It looks like a like a miniature little axe in

761
00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:52,040
Speaker 1: this like a giant's hands. All right, Well, first of all, disclaimer,

762
00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:55,200
Speaker 1: Before I took my shirt off on this chopping wood,

763
00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:57,359
Speaker 1: I hit like one hundred and fifty push ups because

764
00:40:57,360 --> 00:41:00,439
Speaker 1: I knew that I was gonna be cholding woods. I felt, well, okay, yeah,

765
00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:02,799
Speaker 1: so I was feeling a little bigger than I was,

766
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:06,000
Speaker 1: and they give you us baby axe. That axe also

767
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:09,800
Speaker 1: was about as big as my hand was so small,

768
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:15,520
Speaker 1: a little hatchet, but so funny and low key. That

769
00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:18,080
Speaker 1: took me about six hits to get into that wood.

770
00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:23,279
Speaker 1: It's not easy. I that was not the first thing.

771
00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:28,120
Speaker 1: That took about six drows now that I figured, I

772
00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:31,440
Speaker 1: was more disappointed that you took off your shirt and

773
00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:34,760
Speaker 1: you're like ripped and you know, old Johnny apple Seed,

774
00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:38,240
Speaker 1: you know, about to cut the wood, and poor Bree

775
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:40,960
Speaker 1: was just standing there money. I said, can we get

776
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:44,080
Speaker 1: her a towel? Can we wipe her? Dash? The beautiful girl?

777
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:47,799
Speaker 1: And we're gonna give math this glorifiding moment. And and

778
00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:49,839
Speaker 1: then they go, they show it to break and it's

779
00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:53,080
Speaker 1: just sitting there, but they couldn't. She looks pretty in

780
00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:56,800
Speaker 1: the mound. I meant, is beautiful, and if that interview

781
00:41:56,800 --> 00:41:58,600
Speaker 1: would have been done after the hot tip that she

782
00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:04,799
Speaker 1: would have been very clean. But at long shirt on. So, Matt,

783
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:10,600
Speaker 1: you had some like your cast is studying. Yeah, they're

784
00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:13,640
Speaker 1: beautiful studying. That's what I was telling you earlier. I

785
00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:16,279
Speaker 1: felt like the women who were there aren't typically the

786
00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:18,759
Speaker 1: ones who were single like I was. I felt unworthy

787
00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:20,520
Speaker 1: every time I went on a one on one, every

788
00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:23,000
Speaker 1: time I had a conversation because they're just talking about

789
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:25,480
Speaker 1: oh yeah, I'm I'm a lawyer, and I oh yeah

790
00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:31,880
Speaker 1: I do. I'm like, yeah, did you know did you

791
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:34,080
Speaker 1: ever get a vibe? Because I definitely got this vibe

792
00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:35,880
Speaker 1: from some guys on my season where I was like,

793
00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:38,360
Speaker 1: they are not here for me, They're not into me,

794
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:42,040
Speaker 1: They are only here to build their following and their fame.

795
00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:45,640
Speaker 1: Did you get that vibe about some of these women? Um?

796
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:48,520
Speaker 1: I try to get verybody to benefits and doubt because

797
00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:51,279
Speaker 1: like at this point, I still don't know like who

798
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:53,239
Speaker 1: you are, Like I'm trying to get to know you,

799
00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:58,600
Speaker 1: and like I crossed night one off because it's like

800
00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:02,480
Speaker 1: like everyone's got those jitters. I'm assuming that that's like

801
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:04,400
Speaker 1: like I'm like, okay, now everyone settled in like and

802
00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:06,279
Speaker 1: even into the house, Like I'm going to really get

803
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:08,279
Speaker 1: to see like what these women are about. So like

804
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:11,480
Speaker 1: I still don't even know that, but like if they are,

805
00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:18,280
Speaker 1: then I mean I all I can be is myself.

806
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:22,480
Speaker 1: I can't hold that against anybody, like, and that that

807
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:26,120
Speaker 1: will work itself out, like it's not it's not a secret,

808
00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:29,560
Speaker 1: you know, Yeah, And that comes out with the conversation

809
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:32,279
Speaker 1: like if we're not talking about anything. Then it's just like,

810
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:35,399
Speaker 1: all right, you know a main theme that we saw, well,

811
00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:38,640
Speaker 1: I'm assuming it might last throughout the season, but we

812
00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:40,440
Speaker 1: obviously saw you talk about it. And I want with

813
00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:43,720
Speaker 1: Chris is the fact that you have never been in love.

814
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:48,160
Speaker 1: So I want because you know, I'm i feel like

815
00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:50,680
Speaker 1: I'm a first time viewer watching you, and I'm sure

816
00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:53,480
Speaker 1: everyone here is probably feeling the same way. Can you

817
00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:57,440
Speaker 1: give us a little bit of your dating background and like,

818
00:43:57,560 --> 00:44:01,239
Speaker 1: did you ever have any really long lasting, standing story

819
00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:03,480
Speaker 1: relationships where you thought you could get there or like

820
00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:08,760
Speaker 1: give us the background of that. So my dating history

821
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:12,440
Speaker 1: in New York is slim to none because I was broken,

822
00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:13,960
Speaker 1: Like I didn't have any money, so I couldn't take

823
00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:16,160
Speaker 1: anybody out on a date like New York's expensive, so

824
00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:18,920
Speaker 1: like just by default, I wasn't doing a lot of dating,

825
00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:20,839
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I was focused on the

826
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:24,919
Speaker 1: charitable work I was doing around at work or I'm trying.

827
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:27,120
Speaker 1: I'm trying to hustle, like I'm moved to New York grime,

828
00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:32,040
Speaker 1: and I knew that the relationship part would come, but

829
00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:33,600
Speaker 1: it had been a while since I've been in a

830
00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:36,879
Speaker 1: serious relationship and when I said that I had never

831
00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:40,400
Speaker 1: been in love, I felt like it wasn't until that

832
00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:45,279
Speaker 1: moment that I could say that, because I knew what

833
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:48,759
Speaker 1: love meant to me in that moment, and that was

834
00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:51,759
Speaker 1: the respect that you had for your partner, the sacrifice

835
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:53,680
Speaker 1: that you would be willing to make for them, the

836
00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:56,759
Speaker 1: admiration you'd had, like everything that goes into loving somebody.

837
00:44:57,320 --> 00:44:59,600
Speaker 1: I had said that in the past, but I wasn't

838
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:01,680
Speaker 1: willing to make those sacrifices and do the things that

839
00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:04,160
Speaker 1: I was wanting to do now. So like whereas I

840
00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:05,600
Speaker 1: would have I said it in the past when I

841
00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:07,880
Speaker 1: was like a jit telling the people that I love them,

842
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:11,759
Speaker 1: like now as an adult having that conversation, like, I

843
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:13,520
Speaker 1: can't say that I've been in love because I would

844
00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:17,400
Speaker 1: have gone about pourting that person and treating our relationship

845
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:20,279
Speaker 1: differently than I had. So that's why I'm like, so yeah,

846
00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:23,600
Speaker 1: along with answer is like I love for me change

847
00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:30,319
Speaker 1: and I hadn't been in love yet, Um did you have?

848
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:35,000
Speaker 1: And this is as a general question any regrets from

849
00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:38,359
Speaker 1: this season? Was there somebody you sent home? And you're like,

850
00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:41,400
Speaker 1: you know what, I probably shouldn't have done that, or

851
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:43,359
Speaker 1: maybe I should have given them a little bit more time.

852
00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:49,680
Speaker 1: Um No, no, no, I don't have any regrets because

853
00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:55,160
Speaker 1: of the way that I what about that process. Like

854
00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:59,840
Speaker 1: I was a thousand percent on as I was open

855
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:02,520
Speaker 1: and I was myself, I was real. I didn't hold

856
00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:05,920
Speaker 1: anything back, like for better, for worse than everything about me.

857
00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:10,919
Speaker 1: The ones that that made it to like hometown whatever,

858
00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:13,399
Speaker 1: Like they knew everything about me, who I was, what

859
00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:15,319
Speaker 1: my moles were. Were I still but I wanted to

860
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:19,080
Speaker 1: do And if it didn't work out, then it's because

861
00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:22,080
Speaker 1: that person didn't see that with me, And I can't

862
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:25,040
Speaker 1: hope I can't force that on somebody, you know, like

863
00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:28,280
Speaker 1: if they not that person for them that I'm happy

864
00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:30,640
Speaker 1: that they were able to figure that out with me

865
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:33,040
Speaker 1: and that they've gone forward, they'll be able to figure

866
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:36,319
Speaker 1: that out with that person. But um no, I don't.

867
00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:40,000
Speaker 1: I don't have any regrets. When it came to hometowns,

868
00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:43,440
Speaker 1: was there any apprehension on your part or were you

869
00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:46,439
Speaker 1: nervous as a black man knowing that because I'm sure

870
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:50,080
Speaker 1: you have a diverse final four? Um, was there any

871
00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:55,000
Speaker 1: were you nervous about meeting these parents, especially if one

872
00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:57,080
Speaker 1: of those women had never dated a black man before.

873
00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:06,440
Speaker 1: Having dated women whose parents were accepting of me being black,

874
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:10,400
Speaker 1: I wasn't as much. I wasn't really nervous Rachel. And

875
00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:15,799
Speaker 1: here's why they knew what they were getting into. Like

876
00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:18,839
Speaker 1: it wasn't a surprise when they got here that I

877
00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:21,880
Speaker 1: was the Bachelor. It wasn't It shouldn't be a surprise

878
00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:24,000
Speaker 1: to them if they looked at my Instagram, but they

879
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:26,000
Speaker 1: looked at my Twitter, and they looked at anything. But

880
00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:29,240
Speaker 1: for the family, they didn't know that their daughter would

881
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:31,839
Speaker 1: make it that far. I never thought about it like that.

882
00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:34,960
Speaker 1: I just assumed that's good. Then that's your answer, that's great. No,

883
00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:37,839
Speaker 1: I just assumed that everyone was cool with it, because, like,

884
00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:41,319
Speaker 1: it's not like a surprise dad, like Matt Tire, like

885
00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:43,440
Speaker 1: they knew that their daughter was going on the Bachelor,

886
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:46,040
Speaker 1: and then I was the Bachelor. So like, I would

887
00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:48,399
Speaker 1: be shocked if someone's parents weren't cool with it, because

888
00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:52,120
Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, well and this is maybe this is

889
00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:54,880
Speaker 1: what comes with you have never doing the show before.

890
00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:59,239
Speaker 1: You've never done it. Most parents do not think they

891
00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:01,400
Speaker 1: think this is a silly show. They can't believe that

892
00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:03,760
Speaker 1: you're going on it. They don't think that it works,

893
00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:06,640
Speaker 1: and so when you make it to the final four

894
00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:08,400
Speaker 1: where they're like, oh my god, now I have to

895
00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:10,400
Speaker 1: become a part of this. They don't get it. They

896
00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:14,399
Speaker 1: don't understand it. It's very surreal to them. Um, they

897
00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:16,960
Speaker 1: ask a lot of questions like like even though they're

898
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:18,839
Speaker 1: like is this real? And so I guess my my

899
00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:20,839
Speaker 1: thing is is yes, they knew that they were coming

900
00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:24,839
Speaker 1: on your season, but nobody believes that their daughter one

901
00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:27,600
Speaker 1: is going to make it that far in two when

902
00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:31,120
Speaker 1: their daughter is like no, I love him or I'm

903
00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:34,799
Speaker 1: falling for him, and then it's like wait, okay, wait, wait,

904
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:38,480
Speaker 1: we have different talk. So that's why I'm asking you,

905
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:42,640
Speaker 1: is that when you like there's a completely different answer.

906
00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:45,920
Speaker 1: So from a race standpoint, like thank god I didn't

907
00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:49,360
Speaker 1: have any awkward or I didn't have their good But

908
00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:52,480
Speaker 1: from the standpoint of like people's parentsing and this was

909
00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:55,640
Speaker 1: silly and like they're being some sort of like coded

910
00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:59,600
Speaker 1: language like when we're all together, there was there was

911
00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:02,400
Speaker 1: that and that threw me off because like again it

912
00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:05,960
Speaker 1: maybe my not like me being naive to the process,

913
00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:11,279
Speaker 1: but like like I in that moment, I'm so confused

914
00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:15,799
Speaker 1: as to like like like like when you it's like

915
00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:18,520
Speaker 1: going into a water park in your shock that you

916
00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:21,200
Speaker 1: get wet. It's like you knew coming on here that

917
00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:23,640
Speaker 1: like I would hope that you had enough trust in

918
00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:26,560
Speaker 1: the redeeming qualities and your daughter that she would make

919
00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:28,480
Speaker 1: it to this point. And now that we're here, like

920
00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:31,879
Speaker 1: you're confused that, like she's here, it's like a it's

921
00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:35,920
Speaker 1: an oxy moment. It's like it's like, uh, I was

922
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:41,360
Speaker 1: so confused because it was like they it was news

923
00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:43,439
Speaker 1: to them that we're here. It was the first Yeah,

924
00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:48,319
Speaker 1: it's so foreign. Yeah, it's so foreign to people, you know,

925
00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:52,440
Speaker 1: Like it was to the point where like I almost

926
00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:55,560
Speaker 1: didn't have words for some of the conversation because I'm like,

927
00:49:56,400 --> 00:50:00,319
Speaker 1: is that is that a trick question? Like like what

928
00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:05,360
Speaker 1: do you mean? What do you mean? I'm confused? So

929
00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:08,800
Speaker 1: Hometowns is going to be popping. It's gonna be great, hopefully.

930
00:50:11,239 --> 00:50:15,200
Speaker 1: So it's no secret that obviously your friends with Tyler,

931
00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:18,840
Speaker 1: you're friends with Hannah. You did talk to Rachel myself

932
00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:22,239
Speaker 1: some of the past leads who gave you well, I

933
00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:24,120
Speaker 1: guess I shouldn't say who, but what was some of

934
00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:26,160
Speaker 1: the best and some of the worst advice that you

935
00:50:26,239 --> 00:50:29,239
Speaker 1: got from anyone? That was already affiliated with the show

936
00:50:29,320 --> 00:50:33,040
Speaker 1: some way, somehow that you got before coming on UM.

937
00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:36,759
Speaker 1: To be honest with you, I personally don't think I

938
00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:39,600
Speaker 1: got any bad advice because everything that someone told me

939
00:50:39,680 --> 00:50:44,279
Speaker 1: happened at some point. And one of the conversations that

940
00:50:44,320 --> 00:50:47,160
Speaker 1: I had Rachel literally the last day before my home

941
00:50:47,239 --> 00:50:52,880
Speaker 1: was taken was just be yourself, don't have any regret,

942
00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:55,920
Speaker 1: don't try to please everybody because you can't. That's it up,

943
00:50:56,400 --> 00:50:59,840
Speaker 1: I didn't say. Me and Rachel had a great conversation,

944
00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:04,839
Speaker 1: and when I was in those moments that just like

945
00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:08,719
Speaker 1: what am I doing or like super frustrated, I would

946
00:51:08,760 --> 00:51:12,680
Speaker 1: fall back on those and be like, Okay, I remember

947
00:51:12,760 --> 00:51:15,080
Speaker 1: having this conversation, and I'm not the only one who

948
00:51:15,120 --> 00:51:19,600
Speaker 1: want to do this, So m man, I have to say,

949
00:51:19,640 --> 00:51:23,680
Speaker 1: because I FaceTime with you for what maybe thirty forty

950
00:51:23,719 --> 00:51:28,399
Speaker 1: five minutes before you left, and you seem I don't

951
00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:30,000
Speaker 1: know if it's because you were a little nervous and

952
00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:32,640
Speaker 1: you knew what you were getting yourself into very soon,

953
00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:35,239
Speaker 1: and there was a lot of just that pressure that

954
00:51:35,239 --> 00:51:38,080
Speaker 1: we talked about and stress, but you are so enjoyable

955
00:51:38,120 --> 00:51:45,360
Speaker 1: to have on right now. Thank you? Yeah again, No,

956
00:51:45,560 --> 00:51:47,520
Speaker 1: I didn't know how to take that. I appreciate it. Yeah, No,

957
00:51:47,600 --> 00:51:51,440
Speaker 1: I just like like it was I just try to

958
00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:55,080
Speaker 1: be like I don't want to give like a fake

959
00:51:55,120 --> 00:51:57,920
Speaker 1: account of like who I am in my experience, Like

960
00:51:57,960 --> 00:52:01,160
Speaker 1: I just there's no there's nothing I get out of

961
00:52:01,280 --> 00:52:04,520
Speaker 1: not being authentic, and like that's it was something that

962
00:52:05,320 --> 00:52:07,160
Speaker 1: that the show helped me with to be honest with you.

963
00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:08,480
Speaker 1: I felt like I was on two months of their

964
00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:13,080
Speaker 1: like I'm just yes, having to talk about my feelings

965
00:52:13,120 --> 00:52:17,600
Speaker 1: things that I'm not doing, so like you just it's

966
00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:20,640
Speaker 1: it's draining to not to dodge that and it's not

967
00:52:20,680 --> 00:52:24,120
Speaker 1: comfortable to not talk about it. So like the more

968
00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:26,520
Speaker 1: comfortable I was sharing things that I wasn't comfortable and

969
00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:30,200
Speaker 1: talking about my interfection, like, well, I just being real

970
00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:34,960
Speaker 1: and like not really caring how I came off as

971
00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:37,439
Speaker 1: long as I'm not offending somebody. But like I'm not

972
00:52:38,120 --> 00:52:42,240
Speaker 1: a Harvard educated physicists, you know what I mean myself,

973
00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:45,080
Speaker 1: and like I hold myself to a high standard. But

974
00:52:45,120 --> 00:52:46,640
Speaker 1: like at the end of the day, like I'm doing

975
00:52:46,880 --> 00:52:50,279
Speaker 1: so I want to ask this too, because that's such

976
00:52:50,280 --> 00:52:53,160
Speaker 1: a good segue. So I feel like for so many

977
00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:56,719
Speaker 1: of well, I would say both leads and contestants. Coming

978
00:52:56,760 --> 00:52:59,799
Speaker 1: out of the show, you find your voice a little

979
00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:03,200
Speaker 1: bit more, and you find what makes you you and

980
00:53:03,239 --> 00:53:06,839
Speaker 1: what you know really fuels you. And so, at least

981
00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:08,360
Speaker 1: for me personally, when I got off the show, I

982
00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:11,120
Speaker 1: felt like I finally, you know, had my voice, and

983
00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:15,879
Speaker 1: I felt empowered and strong and just so much more

984
00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:19,680
Speaker 1: meat in this very weird, chaotic way. Did you feel that,

985
00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:23,120
Speaker 1: and like, was there like now that you've gone through

986
00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:25,840
Speaker 1: filming and the fact that it's airing, like, how do

987
00:53:25,880 --> 00:53:27,640
Speaker 1: you feel and what is like one of the biggest

988
00:53:27,640 --> 00:53:31,839
Speaker 1: takeaways that you've learned while you did the show? Well,

989
00:53:31,920 --> 00:53:35,440
Speaker 1: two things. One I had to stop myself from like

990
00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:41,040
Speaker 1: like being uh like like, for instance, when I got bad,

991
00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:43,040
Speaker 1: I like saw my best friends are, I'm like, how

992
00:53:43,080 --> 00:53:45,879
Speaker 1: a y'all doing? Like we're doing good? I mean I know, really,

993
00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:48,319
Speaker 1: how are you doing? Like like you said good? Like

994
00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:50,600
Speaker 1: why are you good? Like I'm like, I'm like still

995
00:53:50,600 --> 00:53:52,279
Speaker 1: in the show mode, Like I'm like trying to have

996
00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:57,360
Speaker 1: these conversations because so like my biggest takeaway was just

997
00:53:57,400 --> 00:54:01,880
Speaker 1: like being comfortable having a comfortable conversations and being comfortable

998
00:54:01,920 --> 00:54:06,719
Speaker 1: having like like coming into my voice and just like that.

999
00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:10,560
Speaker 1: That was really the biggest stage way for me for

1000
00:54:10,600 --> 00:54:13,239
Speaker 1: the answers of why people feel the way that they

1001
00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:16,239
Speaker 1: do other than just very surface level. And that's more

1002
00:54:16,280 --> 00:54:19,440
Speaker 1: so from me, like because like good, Like how are

1003
00:54:19,440 --> 00:54:21,840
Speaker 1: you doing? I'm straight, Like that's not an answer, like

1004
00:54:21,840 --> 00:54:23,880
Speaker 1: what a strait mean? Like when someone asked me how

1005
00:54:23,920 --> 00:54:26,399
Speaker 1: I'm doing, I'm like, yo, I'm upset because I had

1006
00:54:27,239 --> 00:54:29,000
Speaker 1: this lady cut me off at work today and it

1007
00:54:29,040 --> 00:54:30,680
Speaker 1: made me upset, you know what I mean. It's like

1008
00:54:31,200 --> 00:54:34,440
Speaker 1: putting context to like my feelings so that people understand

1009
00:54:34,520 --> 00:54:38,439
Speaker 1: where I'm coming from. Opposes just being like okay, because

1010
00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:41,359
Speaker 1: that doesn't help anything. And I'm trying to be a

1011
00:54:41,360 --> 00:54:44,600
Speaker 1: better communicator because it's something I struggled and past, you

1012
00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:47,239
Speaker 1: know what I mean. So we need all men to

1013
00:54:47,320 --> 00:54:50,400
Speaker 1: be that way. Right. Well, this is how I know

1014
00:54:50,600 --> 00:54:53,480
Speaker 1: that you grew from the show because before you left,

1015
00:54:53,480 --> 00:54:54,880
Speaker 1: when I talked to you, I said like, what are

1016
00:54:54,920 --> 00:54:57,480
Speaker 1: you looking for? And your response at that point was

1017
00:54:57,960 --> 00:54:59,759
Speaker 1: somebody I can kick it with? And I was like,

1018
00:55:01,080 --> 00:55:05,480
Speaker 1: we're gonna need more. Can you just tell America somebody

1019
00:55:05,520 --> 00:55:07,440
Speaker 1: I can kick in with? And they're now look at you,

1020
00:55:07,600 --> 00:55:13,640
Speaker 1: mad that's I'm a refined man, and being able to

1021
00:55:13,719 --> 00:55:18,239
Speaker 1: kick with somebody still important. But if you want to

1022
00:55:18,320 --> 00:55:21,440
Speaker 1: learn more that all that lets us know that you're

1023
00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:24,880
Speaker 1: a refined man is one you had some good fantasy

1024
00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:31,000
Speaker 1: suits and two you found somebody. You found somebody because

1025
00:55:31,080 --> 00:55:33,560
Speaker 1: because can nothing refine you in the proper way like

1026
00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:37,800
Speaker 1: a good woman can't. So so thank you for letting

1027
00:55:37,840 --> 00:55:40,400
Speaker 1: us in a very indirect way that you are happy

1028
00:55:40,560 --> 00:55:42,560
Speaker 1: and you have found someone. We don't know in what

1029
00:55:42,640 --> 00:55:46,080
Speaker 1: capacity that was. We will take that and we will

1030
00:55:46,080 --> 00:55:48,520
Speaker 1: wait and see who it is that you chose. But

1031
00:55:48,560 --> 00:55:50,759
Speaker 1: how were the fantasy suite? How many you have? One? Two, three,

1032
00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:56,400
Speaker 1: handagoff four. I'm still upset about that. Oh you know

1033
00:55:56,440 --> 00:56:02,799
Speaker 1: what fantasy suite? That's like two months. So two months

1034
00:56:02,840 --> 00:56:05,279
Speaker 1: we're going to dive into that. You said you talked

1035
00:56:05,280 --> 00:56:07,640
Speaker 1: to Sean Low before. Did you pull a Sean Low

1036
00:56:07,719 --> 00:56:11,120
Speaker 1: because he didn't have any That's what I'm told. That's

1037
00:56:11,120 --> 00:56:14,120
Speaker 1: a great question. You can at least tell us was

1038
00:56:14,160 --> 00:56:17,799
Speaker 1: there a fantasy suite week? Well, it is part of

1039
00:56:17,800 --> 00:56:21,160
Speaker 1: the process, right. If you had to have a theme

1040
00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:23,840
Speaker 1: song for each week, what would it have been for

1041
00:56:23,960 --> 00:56:26,680
Speaker 1: Week nine, which is typically the Fantasy Sweet Week. That's

1042
00:56:26,680 --> 00:56:30,919
Speaker 1: what I was gonna say. That's easy, always and forever

1043
00:56:30,960 --> 00:56:34,799
Speaker 1: about Bryson Tiller. Okay, for those of you who don't know,

1044
00:56:34,920 --> 00:56:39,040
Speaker 1: Bryson Tiller is an R and B us. It's bedroom

1045
00:56:39,120 --> 00:56:43,160
Speaker 1: music basically. So there we go, there we are, there

1046
00:56:43,160 --> 00:56:44,840
Speaker 1: we go. Thank you, Thank you for that. I feel

1047
00:56:44,920 --> 00:56:48,399
Speaker 1: like Week nine, Fantasy Suite Week at Hometown Week when

1048
00:56:48,560 --> 00:56:54,279
Speaker 1: you're really spoken us in here, Matt, listen to Anniversary

1049
00:56:54,360 --> 00:56:57,640
Speaker 1: Bryson Teller. Then that'll set the tone for that week.

1050
00:56:57,920 --> 00:57:00,359
Speaker 1: All right, Matt, we have we If you've listening to

1051
00:57:00,360 --> 00:57:02,279
Speaker 1: this podcast, you know that we ask every guest we

1052
00:57:02,400 --> 00:57:05,400
Speaker 1: have on what the rose and the thorn of the

1053
00:57:05,480 --> 00:57:08,160
Speaker 1: season was. But obviously, since we've only now seen two

1054
00:57:08,160 --> 00:57:11,360
Speaker 1: episodes up to this point, what was your rose and

1055
00:57:11,440 --> 00:57:15,000
Speaker 1: what was your thorn? The rose is easy. The rose

1056
00:57:15,239 --> 00:57:18,600
Speaker 1: was meeting all those women nine one, just because it

1057
00:57:18,680 --> 00:57:22,320
Speaker 1: exceeded any of my expectations. You know, I'm like, I

1058
00:57:22,360 --> 00:57:24,880
Speaker 1: was just pinching myself that I was fortunate enough to

1059
00:57:24,880 --> 00:57:28,320
Speaker 1: have this group of women there, and like just the

1060
00:57:28,440 --> 00:57:32,840
Speaker 1: responsibility that comes with making sure that they feel comfortable

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00:57:33,040 --> 00:57:35,120
Speaker 1: they're getting the most out of this so that they

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00:57:35,120 --> 00:57:37,880
Speaker 1: can get the most out of me. And the thorn

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00:57:38,760 --> 00:57:44,320
Speaker 1: is when a special guest comes to Niver call it

1064
00:57:45,680 --> 00:57:48,320
Speaker 1: better not be Heather. You better not be talking about Heather.

1065
00:57:48,960 --> 00:57:51,240
Speaker 1: We are pleased that we were able to have you

1066
00:57:51,440 --> 00:57:54,400
Speaker 1: on the podcast. It's been so much fun. We back then,

1067
00:57:54,480 --> 00:57:57,040
Speaker 1: I have been looking forward to having you on the podcast,

1068
00:57:57,120 --> 00:57:59,520
Speaker 1: to be able to talk with you, not just about

1069
00:57:59,560 --> 00:58:02,040
Speaker 1: like your season and the women who are going to

1070
00:58:02,120 --> 00:58:04,320
Speaker 1: be on it, but about you, to get to know

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00:58:04,360 --> 00:58:07,160
Speaker 1: who you are and why you were chosen and what

1072
00:58:07,200 --> 00:58:09,160
Speaker 1: it feels to be to be the first and to

1073
00:58:09,240 --> 00:58:12,480
Speaker 1: be chosen, and how you're going to make your mark

1074
00:58:12,520 --> 00:58:15,720
Speaker 1: with all of this, and let everybody know who Matthew.

1075
00:58:15,800 --> 00:58:20,320
Speaker 1: What's your middle name? Christian? Of course it is Matthew

1076
00:58:20,800 --> 00:58:27,920
Speaker 1: Christian James Is. I'd like to close out in a prayer.

1077
00:58:28,760 --> 00:58:30,160
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm just gonna I'm not even gonna make

1078
00:58:30,200 --> 00:58:32,040
Speaker 1: a mockery that because I'm a Christian. I'm a Christian too,

1079
00:58:32,120 --> 00:58:34,640
Speaker 1: I'm not making I'm not making a mockery of that.

1080
00:58:34,680 --> 00:58:39,920
Speaker 1: I'm a Christian too. Man. Just seemed fitting, It just

1081
00:58:39,960 --> 00:58:43,720
Speaker 1: seemed quite natural. You are hilarious, Okay, matt One thing

1082
00:58:43,840 --> 00:58:46,640
Speaker 1: Becca and I do before every season is that we

1083
00:58:46,800 --> 00:58:49,600
Speaker 1: go through the cast biles. It's one of our most

1084
00:58:49,600 --> 00:58:51,600
Speaker 1: fun things to do because we don't know anything about

1085
00:58:51,640 --> 00:58:55,480
Speaker 1: these women and or men, depending on the season. So

1086
00:58:55,560 --> 00:58:58,200
Speaker 1: we went through all of your women. We know they're

1087
00:58:58,200 --> 00:59:00,080
Speaker 1: more to come, so I feel like we're at a

1088
00:59:00,280 --> 00:59:04,960
Speaker 1: very unfair advantage. But from the thirty plus women that

1089
00:59:05,040 --> 00:59:08,040
Speaker 1: we went through, we came up with our top four. Now,

1090
00:59:09,560 --> 00:59:11,959
Speaker 1: in true Rachel and Becca fashion, we did not write

1091
00:59:11,960 --> 00:59:14,720
Speaker 1: them down. So we're going to go off. We're going

1092
00:59:14,840 --> 00:59:17,720
Speaker 1: to go off pure memory, and our Happy Hour listeners

1093
00:59:17,840 --> 00:59:21,800
Speaker 1: will hold us accountable. So I'll start with mine. I'm

1094
00:59:21,800 --> 00:59:28,440
Speaker 1: pretty sure I picked Kristen or I picked one of

1095
00:59:28,480 --> 00:59:30,720
Speaker 1: the one of the black female attorneys. I just so

1096
00:59:30,880 --> 00:59:33,680
Speaker 1: it could have been Christina Lauren. I think I picked

1097
00:59:33,760 --> 00:59:37,240
Speaker 1: Chelsea because I find her background intriguing and I met

1098
00:59:37,280 --> 00:59:40,880
Speaker 1: her before did not recognize her because she had hair

1099
00:59:41,120 --> 00:59:44,000
Speaker 1: long hair when I met her, so I didn't I

1100
00:59:44,000 --> 00:59:47,680
Speaker 1: didn't recognize her, but I picked Chelsea. I think I

1101
00:59:47,720 --> 00:59:54,800
Speaker 1: think I picked Maggie and I picked Rachel obviously, even

1102
00:59:54,880 --> 00:59:56,960
Speaker 1: though we all know I have an issue with how

1103
00:59:57,040 --> 01:00:03,280
Speaker 1: she spells her name. It's not biblic and if I'm

1104
01:00:03,320 --> 01:00:06,919
Speaker 1: being totally honest, I don't remember anyone who I said

1105
01:00:06,960 --> 01:00:09,960
Speaker 1: besides Maggie. That's the only one that sucked up to me.

1106
01:00:10,800 --> 01:00:13,000
Speaker 1: There was a girl I have said Sarah. I feel

1107
01:00:13,040 --> 01:00:14,560
Speaker 1: like we were big on Sarah, but that could be

1108
01:00:14,600 --> 01:00:16,880
Speaker 1: maybe I said Sarah. There was one girl and her name.

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01:00:16,960 --> 01:00:18,800
Speaker 1: All I remember is her name started with an A,

1110
01:00:19,520 --> 01:00:22,320
Speaker 1: and I said she was going far because she liked

1111
01:00:22,440 --> 01:00:26,120
Speaker 1: champagne and I think chicken wings or something, And that's

1112
01:00:26,160 --> 01:00:29,240
Speaker 1: my picture. That's like, we didn't even get there. I

1113
01:00:29,360 --> 01:00:32,840
Speaker 1: said her home. Yeah, it was probably somebody. When I

1114
01:00:32,840 --> 01:00:35,360
Speaker 1: say I'm always wrong, it was definitely probably somebody. You

1115
01:00:35,400 --> 01:00:37,920
Speaker 1: said home night one. Can you tell us if we're closed?

1116
01:00:37,960 --> 01:00:40,920
Speaker 1: Did I mean did we? Did we? Oh? You were big?

1117
01:00:41,200 --> 01:00:44,080
Speaker 1: I think too. I think you said are Yeah, you're

1118
01:00:44,120 --> 01:00:46,360
Speaker 1: big on Bree. I might have said Bree. We don't remember.

1119
01:00:46,560 --> 01:00:50,600
Speaker 1: All be close. I've never done this more, but I'm

1120
01:00:50,600 --> 01:00:52,720
Speaker 1: gonna give y'all again. I'm probably gonna get in trouble

1121
01:00:52,720 --> 01:00:58,280
Speaker 1: with it, but it's worth it. Are you ready? M

1122
01:00:58,720 --> 01:01:09,120
Speaker 1: We are edge of our seats. The the woman that

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01:01:09,200 --> 01:01:15,280
Speaker 1: I picked ends up with the rose at the end sheets.

1124
01:01:16,280 --> 01:01:22,280
Speaker 1: I literally almost used the bathroom on my stuff. I thought,

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01:01:23,280 --> 01:01:24,880
Speaker 1: I at least thought you tell us one of the

1126
01:01:24,920 --> 01:01:29,360
Speaker 1: women we were we were we named about six was

1127
01:01:29,400 --> 01:01:32,320
Speaker 1: Minna walked out just to hear this. Right, it's like

1128
01:01:33,040 --> 01:01:36,360
Speaker 1: like naming names and she's like, I think, and then

1129
01:01:36,360 --> 01:01:38,360
Speaker 1: she's like looking to see how I reacting. She's like

1130
01:01:38,880 --> 01:01:42,840
Speaker 1: going through names. Wait, okay, let's go Abigail, Elena, Alice,

1131
01:01:42,880 --> 01:01:45,880
Speaker 1: shops Amber. Let me tell you how. Let me tell

1132
01:01:45,920 --> 01:01:49,280
Speaker 1: you reading between the lines. Reading between the lines, this

1133
01:01:49,360 --> 01:01:52,040
Speaker 1: is all I heard. Okay, so she gets a rose

1134
01:01:52,160 --> 01:01:55,120
Speaker 1: and not a ring. Bet, thanks for the hint. Take

1135
01:01:55,200 --> 01:01:59,240
Speaker 1: that and with that, we'll let you go. I want

1136
01:01:59,240 --> 01:02:04,000
Speaker 1: to get coming. I heard that. Wait, Matt, before you

1137
01:02:04,120 --> 01:02:06,520
Speaker 1: head off and take your nice little bubble bath, here

1138
01:02:08,160 --> 01:02:10,880
Speaker 1: in one sentence, give us a teaser of what's to

1139
01:02:10,880 --> 01:02:16,520
Speaker 1: come this season. What people can expect to your tune

1140
01:02:16,560 --> 01:02:20,920
Speaker 1: and in is authenticity and the level of realness that

1141
01:02:20,960 --> 01:02:24,200
Speaker 1: they hadn't seen before. All right, who do you end

1142
01:02:24,240 --> 01:02:30,920
Speaker 1: up with? You guys? Apiate? All right, man, you've been fantastic.

1143
01:02:30,960 --> 01:02:35,640
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for doing this. Oh my gosh, Becca,

1144
01:02:35,920 --> 01:02:38,400
Speaker 1: we've both talked to Matt outside of all of this,

1145
01:02:38,680 --> 01:02:40,920
Speaker 1: but it's so much fun to talk to him on

1146
01:02:40,960 --> 01:02:44,720
Speaker 1: the other side of his journey and to see, as

1147
01:02:44,800 --> 01:02:47,320
Speaker 1: you said, well, he said, we're fined. You've already been

1148
01:02:47,360 --> 01:02:50,400
Speaker 1: able to point out the differences in the conversation you

1149
01:02:50,520 --> 01:02:55,400
Speaker 1: had with him before versus after. I'm so excited for

1150
01:02:55,480 --> 01:02:57,440
Speaker 1: his season. I mean I already was, just because of

1151
01:02:57,560 --> 01:02:59,600
Speaker 1: the historic nature of it, but then in talking to

1152
01:02:59,680 --> 01:03:02,120
Speaker 1: him and the fact that he will not give us

1153
01:03:02,240 --> 01:03:06,560
Speaker 1: the tea that we want. No, I am really pumped

1154
01:03:06,600 --> 01:03:10,400
Speaker 1: for his season. I am too. He gave us just

1155
01:03:10,680 --> 01:03:13,680
Speaker 1: enough to leave us wanting more. And now obviously, like,

1156
01:03:13,720 --> 01:03:15,480
Speaker 1: of course we're going to watch the entire season for

1157
01:03:15,600 --> 01:03:19,640
Speaker 1: these recaps and to talk to the contestants. But it's

1158
01:03:19,760 --> 01:03:23,800
Speaker 1: so enjoyable being able to get to know somebody outside

1159
01:03:23,800 --> 01:03:25,760
Speaker 1: of the show. And you know, when we talked to

1160
01:03:25,840 --> 01:03:28,280
Speaker 1: him months ago, before he even started, I think he

1161
01:03:28,400 --> 01:03:31,600
Speaker 1: felt the pressure. He was nervous, he didn't have any

1162
01:03:31,840 --> 01:03:34,320
Speaker 1: idea of what to expect, and so I think at

1163
01:03:34,320 --> 01:03:36,080
Speaker 1: that point when we first talked to him, he was

1164
01:03:36,120 --> 01:03:37,960
Speaker 1: a little bit more buttoned up. And the fact that

1165
01:03:38,000 --> 01:03:41,680
Speaker 1: he can kind of just you know, feel more free

1166
01:03:41,680 --> 01:03:44,080
Speaker 1: and feel more of himself and like he found his

1167
01:03:44,200 --> 01:03:46,640
Speaker 1: voice and like what you know, drives him. I think

1168
01:03:46,760 --> 01:03:50,720
Speaker 1: is so special. Yeah. I cannot wait though, to see

1169
01:03:50,760 --> 01:03:53,200
Speaker 1: what goes down the rest of the season, because obviously

1170
01:03:53,240 --> 01:03:56,280
Speaker 1: we've seen teasers, we've now talked to him, We've had

1171
01:03:56,440 --> 01:03:58,440
Speaker 1: only Abigail on, So I can't wait to have more

1172
01:03:58,440 --> 01:04:01,320
Speaker 1: of the girls on and to continue this, this this

1173
01:04:01,400 --> 01:04:04,480
Speaker 1: crazy journey with him. Absolutely, I want to say this

1174
01:04:04,560 --> 01:04:06,640
Speaker 1: before we close out, too, is you know, a lot

1175
01:04:06,680 --> 01:04:10,280
Speaker 1: of people send messages and you know, have their critiques

1176
01:04:10,360 --> 01:04:13,160
Speaker 1: about Matt, but I really hope that you guys got

1177
01:04:13,200 --> 01:04:15,960
Speaker 1: a lot of insight into the pressure that he feels,

1178
01:04:16,680 --> 01:04:19,040
Speaker 1: what he went through before going through the season. It

1179
01:04:19,120 --> 01:04:21,880
Speaker 1: was very unprecedented in the way that they announced him,

1180
01:04:22,440 --> 01:04:24,320
Speaker 1: kind of what they put on him in such a

1181
01:04:24,360 --> 01:04:27,640
Speaker 1: quick way, and then for him to navigate this this

1182
01:04:27,680 --> 01:04:30,640
Speaker 1: whole world, this new world as the first black Bachelor.

1183
01:04:30,720 --> 01:04:33,640
Speaker 1: So I hope that you give him, um, you know,

1184
01:04:33,760 --> 01:04:35,960
Speaker 1: a little bit. How about you're a little bit more

1185
01:04:36,000 --> 01:04:38,840
Speaker 1: empathetic to him and you understand him better after listening

1186
01:04:38,840 --> 01:04:41,919
Speaker 1: to this podcast us stop asking us to call him out.

1187
01:04:43,360 --> 01:04:44,920
Speaker 1: I'm I'm telling you right now we're not going to

1188
01:04:45,000 --> 01:04:47,280
Speaker 1: do that. Well, let me watch the rest of the season,

1189
01:04:47,560 --> 01:04:53,480
Speaker 1: but this is hard it's a very hard process and

1190
01:04:53,520 --> 01:04:57,480
Speaker 1: he's navigating, you know, like a new territory. These are

1191
01:04:57,560 --> 01:05:00,320
Speaker 1: new waters that he's stepping into and it's not easy.

1192
01:05:00,400 --> 01:05:03,840
Speaker 1: So I hope that you guys enjoyed the podcast. Yeah, yeah,

1193
01:05:03,920 --> 01:05:07,240
Speaker 1: And as always, like everyone in life, is just trying

1194
01:05:07,280 --> 01:05:09,960
Speaker 1: to find what fills their heart, what fills their soul,

1195
01:05:10,000 --> 01:05:12,200
Speaker 1: and he's just trying to find, you know, maybe this

1196
01:05:12,320 --> 01:05:15,200
Speaker 1: missing piece of the puzzle to his life. And so

1197
01:05:15,320 --> 01:05:17,720
Speaker 1: just as we continue to watch week by week, have

1198
01:05:17,880 --> 01:05:20,680
Speaker 1: grace for not only Matt, before all the contestants as well.

1199
01:05:20,720 --> 01:05:23,200
Speaker 1: I know it's easy to get so wrapped up in

1200
01:05:23,240 --> 01:05:26,360
Speaker 1: the drama and she said, she said, and to have

1201
01:05:26,400 --> 01:05:28,320
Speaker 1: the favorites and the villains, but at the end of

1202
01:05:28,360 --> 01:05:30,840
Speaker 1: the day, everyone on the show is still a human.

1203
01:05:30,840 --> 01:05:34,840
Speaker 1: They still have feelians, they still have thoughts, opinions, hearts, emotions,

1204
01:05:34,920 --> 01:05:38,080
Speaker 1: and so just give everyone some grace. And with that,

1205
01:05:38,320 --> 01:05:40,760
Speaker 1: we are so happy that you guys joined us again today,

1206
01:05:40,800 --> 01:05:43,120
Speaker 1: So thank you for hanging out. And we're also so

1207
01:05:43,160 --> 01:05:45,400
Speaker 1: happy that we finally were able to talk to Matt.

1208
01:05:45,480 --> 01:05:47,320
Speaker 1: So we can't wait to watch the rest of his season.

1209
01:05:47,320 --> 01:05:49,919
Speaker 1: And as always, will be the first to sit down

1210
01:05:49,920 --> 01:05:52,240
Speaker 1: and talk to his girls. So if you have any questions,

1211
01:05:52,240 --> 01:05:55,320
Speaker 1: don't forget to dm us. You know where to find us.

1212
01:05:55,360 --> 01:05:58,280
Speaker 1: If not, it's at Bachelor Happy Hour on Instagram and

1213
01:05:58,480 --> 01:06:02,120
Speaker 1: at Batch Happy Hour on Facebook and Twitter. I love

1214
01:06:02,160 --> 01:06:05,520
Speaker 1: that Minnow is getting it popping in the background. Minnows

1215
01:06:05,720 --> 01:06:08,600
Speaker 1: excited you guys. I enjoyed the podcast, but I'm ready

1216
01:06:08,640 --> 01:06:11,720
Speaker 1: to go outside, So listen, guys, ye change our attention

1217
01:06:11,760 --> 01:06:16,200
Speaker 1: time now, exactly before before we wrap this up. Listen

1218
01:06:16,280 --> 01:06:18,640
Speaker 1: last with a last don't forget to subscribe to our

1219
01:06:18,680 --> 01:06:22,040
Speaker 1: podcast on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, the Wondering App, or wherever

1220
01:06:22,120 --> 01:06:24,760
Speaker 1: you're listening to this right now. Trust us, you don't

1221
01:06:24,800 --> 01:06:27,000
Speaker 1: want to miss an episode. This is definitely going to

1222
01:06:27,080 --> 01:06:29,920
Speaker 1: be an epic season. Take care, hi, guys,