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Speaker 1: Wilber Voss making news tonight revoking Hong Kong special status.

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Speaker 1: And you never want to be on defense when you're

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Speaker 1: running a presidential campaign, especially Trump, who is UM's kind

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Speaker 1: what would you advise the campaign to do? You know

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Speaker 1: because I think they have a principle that doesn't like

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Speaker 1: to stay on message, but they really need to boil

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Speaker 1: really need to hone in on, you know, a national

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Speaker 1: at this point. Lauren Clappy breaking it all down for

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Speaker 1: You know, it's uh, it's all relative, folks, because we

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Speaker 1: all work from home and navigated. Laara, thanks so much

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Speaker 1: That's Lauren Clappy of Hamilton's Place strategies. He has worked

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Speaker 1: the Department of Homeland Security as well. Very appreciative for more. Next,

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Speaker 1: I'm Kevin's really on Bloomberg. This is Bloomberg's Sound On

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Speaker 1: and recovering all things Hong Kong Tonite as well as

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Speaker 1: to do that with our next guest. I believe it's

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Speaker 1: And her name is Laura Think. She is a democratic

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Speaker 1: strategist and founder and CEO of Red Rebel Communications in

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Speaker 1: San Diego. Are you in San Diego? I, sir Am Kevin.

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Speaker 1: I'm very jealous. You know, my a c busted, so

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Speaker 1: it as beautiful as I'm imagining it? Laura? Our calling

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Speaker 1: rob it in. What's going on with Okay? So, I

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Speaker 1: was talking about this with Jonathan Farrell on Bloomberg Television

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Speaker 1: earlier today on Bloomberg Surveillance, and we have been reporting

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Speaker 1: on this dynamic of how President Trump wants to make

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Speaker 1: this a choice election and the Biden campaign wants to

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Speaker 1: make this a referendum election. And that's why we're not

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Speaker 1: the former vice president when you have conversations with your

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Speaker 1: Democratic friends and sources, is that what you're gathering as well.

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Speaker 1: I think that's right, and I think part of it is,

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Speaker 1: in the past. But but incumbents are always faced a

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Speaker 1: to be a choice election because it might level the

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Speaker 1: So that's what I want to get at though, because

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Speaker 1: he's well known to the American people. He he were

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Speaker 1: not talking about a new candidate that they would be

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Speaker 1: So essentially their campaign strategy is, you know, let Trump

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Speaker 1: You know a lot of critics would say, well, Biden

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Speaker 1: I mean, right now, he knows that his disapproval numbers

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Speaker 1: So that's the that's that's where the winds are blowing

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Speaker 1: right now. So let me ask you about your Senator

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Speaker 1: Kamala Harris. Is she gonna be the VEEP? Is she

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Speaker 1: So Darling, you know, I hear you, but I gotta

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Speaker 1: I gotta ask it because you're you're you know, you're

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Speaker 1: word around town in your circles about Kamala Harris is

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Speaker 1: how's she gonna How's she gonna take the criminal justice

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Speaker 1: the veepstakes. Well, I truly think that she was well

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Speaker 1: positioned prior to uh George Floyd protests hitting our streets

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Speaker 1: So I think, uh, I know, but I think she

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Speaker 1: She also had a very sort of accessible approach. You know,

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Speaker 1: would be a phenomenal president. I think though, the the

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Speaker 1: we need someone who has a track record and who

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Speaker 1: actually looks like America. I think representation matters, and I

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Speaker 1: certainly is incredibly important right now. Lara Fank, Democratic strategist

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Speaker 1: out in San Diego. Lara, that was fun. Thanks for

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Speaker 1: coming on, Come back anytime, all right, I loved it.

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Speaker 1: Thank you. And tomorrow we're gonna have continuing coverage of

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Speaker 1: the economy and Hong Kong. That's it for Monday, all

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Speaker 1: the short work week. Fourth July weekend. What are you

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Speaker 1: doing to get back, what are you doing to serve,

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Speaker 1: to honor our entree? Let me know I'm Kevin's Really

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