WEBVTT - Player's Lounge: Not Even Arguable 0:00:13.520 --> 0:00:15.960 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:16.000 --> 0:00:17.800 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 0:00:19.920 --> 0:00:22.400 Cowboys. 0:00:22.440 --> 0:00:27.680 This is the Players Lounge, broadcasting live from Dallas Cowboys 0:00:27.760 --> 0:00:33.080 World headquarters at the Star. Now your hosts Barry Church, 0:00:33.520 --> 0:00:37.400 Anthony dor set De, Montrey More and New. 0:00:37.479 --> 0:00:38.280 He scrugs. 0:00:44.600 --> 0:00:46.879 It is time for the Players Lounge Here as we 0:00:47.040 --> 0:00:48.760 ended getting ready to enter the bi week for the 0:00:48.800 --> 0:00:49.879 Dallas Cowboys. 0:00:49.920 --> 0:00:51.240 Anthony Dorsett is here. 0:00:51.280 --> 0:00:54.560 We've got mister forth and Long in the house, Jesse 0:00:54.720 --> 0:00:56.080 Holly in the house. 0:00:56.120 --> 0:00:57.240 He's here. I merely knew. 0:00:57.280 --> 0:00:59.680 He scrugs and carry on the conversation. This show has 0:00:59.720 --> 0:01:02.560 brought to you buy Aristocrat Gaming. So Players launds a 0:01:02.560 --> 0:01:05.520 little bit different today. Church is out doing church things. 0:01:05.920 --> 0:01:06.480 It's the only he. 0:01:06.480 --> 0:01:10.160 Can do rich people stuff. When you when you're gifted 0:01:10.200 --> 0:01:12.800 the bag from shod Con, you should do that. Yes, 0:01:13.000 --> 0:01:13.440 So that. 0:01:13.720 --> 0:01:17.800 Shot Con and Jerry Jones Mary picked up two bags. 0:01:19.360 --> 0:01:23.000 In Church, Church's mind, it is all shod Con. 0:01:23.680 --> 0:01:25.080 That's how That's how he explained. 0:01:25.400 --> 0:01:27.440 Hey, look man, shot Con and the owner of the 0:01:27.520 --> 0:01:30.720 jaguarshers blessed many a person, blessed many a person. They've 0:01:30.760 --> 0:01:33.240 been so bad that he just you get you get 0:01:33.280 --> 0:01:36.080 it mad. You're right right, Oprah, we we oprah. We 0:01:36.240 --> 0:01:38.520 know we have to pay you extra to come down here. 0:01:39.200 --> 0:01:43.160 So and so you know I'm not mad at church. Baby, 0:01:43.200 --> 0:01:45.120 go ahead do that thing. So shot, con I just 0:01:45.120 --> 0:01:47.320 admabe you should say that, man, Holiday call it every year. 0:01:47.440 --> 0:01:48.640 Hey, I just want you, but thank you. 0:01:49.520 --> 0:01:52.559 I hope you do it well for sure, sames my life. Yes, 0:01:52.760 --> 0:01:54.120 generationally yes. 0:01:54.720 --> 0:01:58.560 So all right, now that you've had an opportunity to 0:01:58.600 --> 0:02:02.520 digest it, I'll start with you, Anthony door scept your thoughts. 0:02:02.320 --> 0:02:04.680 On Quinn Williams being here with the Cowboys. 0:02:04.720 --> 0:02:09.520 A difference making football player definitely a need in this building. 0:02:09.960 --> 0:02:12.120 And it couldn't It didn't have to just be Quinn Williams. 0:02:12.160 --> 0:02:14.359 It just needed to be a difference maker on defense. 0:02:14.919 --> 0:02:17.360 But my whole thing is now with this is like 0:02:18.480 --> 0:02:20.760 what actually is going to be salvaged with the rest 0:02:20.760 --> 0:02:22.880 of the season. Now, it's a good thing that he's 0:02:22.919 --> 0:02:24.680 still in the contract with He has like three years 0:02:24.760 --> 0:02:28.000 left on his deal, so it's not a temporary thing here. 0:02:28.040 --> 0:02:31.040 He's actually going to be here. But looking at it, 0:02:32.080 --> 0:02:33.920 I'm just looking at the structure of it, where what 0:02:34.000 --> 0:02:36.560 are they three five and one at this point. Sure, 0:02:36.800 --> 0:02:40.359 you know, so I don't know mathematically, you know, and 0:02:40.520 --> 0:02:43.240 and still being second in the division, fortunately for them 0:02:43.240 --> 0:02:45.959 with this division being so weak, but mathematically, I don't 0:02:45.960 --> 0:02:47.400 know what that's actually going to be able to do 0:02:47.720 --> 0:02:50.480 as far as like getting through the playoffs and getting 0:02:50.520 --> 0:02:53.280 into the playoffs and everything else like that. Hopefully he 0:02:53.360 --> 0:02:55.400 comes in it has that impact that you talk about, 0:02:56.040 --> 0:02:58.920 but you know, it was definitely in need here, but 0:02:58.960 --> 0:03:01.680 it just seems like it's too late. You give up 0:03:01.680 --> 0:03:04.440 a first round pick and the second round pick, you 0:03:04.480 --> 0:03:06.320 still don't have a pass rush when you have Michaeh 0:03:06.360 --> 0:03:09.079 Parsons in here. I think you still might have had 0:03:09.080 --> 0:03:11.000 a first round pick. You probably could have kept Micah 0:03:11.040 --> 0:03:12.960 here and still gone out and get Quinning. You might 0:03:13.000 --> 0:03:15.080 not have been able to pay both of them, but 0:03:15.919 --> 0:03:18.239 there was a possibility for something like that to happen. 0:03:18.720 --> 0:03:21.640 And once again we're still talking about no pass rush. 0:03:21.680 --> 0:03:24.640 We got a great run stopper, but I read coming 0:03:24.639 --> 0:03:27.399 in here outside in the hallway that he's like the 0:03:27.480 --> 0:03:30.440 ranked the last d tackle when it comes to pass rush, 0:03:30.639 --> 0:03:32.200 where he's number one when it comes to run. 0:03:32.240 --> 0:03:34.520 Un stuff, run stuff, tied at fourteen. 0:03:34.600 --> 0:03:37.200 All right, So picking up just on what you said there, 0:03:37.400 --> 0:03:40.040 and here's a challenge for where the Cowboys are just 0:03:40.120 --> 0:03:43.320 looking in terms of losses, because a lot of the 0:03:43.360 --> 0:03:43.840 losses have. 0:03:43.920 --> 0:03:45.200 Been right here in the NFC. 0:03:45.280 --> 0:03:48.240 So you lost to the Eagles, NFC, You lost to 0:03:48.280 --> 0:03:53.119 the Bears NFC. You lost of the Packers NFCI. I'm sorry, yeah, 0:03:53.160 --> 0:03:57.240 you're tied, tied, Todd, you tied the Packers, thank you. 0:03:57.240 --> 0:03:59.880 You lost to the Commander, I mean the Carolina Panthers. 0:04:00.080 --> 0:04:02.520 Carolina Panthers. You beat the Commanders, and then you lost 0:04:02.520 --> 0:04:04.680 to Arizona. So some teams that could be right there 0:04:04.680 --> 0:04:08.240 when you're talking in terms of those playoff matches, you've 0:04:08.280 --> 0:04:11.080 lost to them and they really don't have much, you know, 0:04:11.160 --> 0:04:13.680 leeway along the way with the rest of the. 0:04:13.680 --> 0:04:16.120 Schedule, which is after the bye week. 0:04:16.360 --> 0:04:20.600 Raiders, Eagles, Chiefs, Lions, Vikings, Chargers, Commanders, Giants. All right, Jesse, 0:04:20.600 --> 0:04:22.680 you give me your thoughts on Quinn Williams. That's the 0:04:22.680 --> 0:04:24.320 big trade, the big the big Cahounan. 0:04:24.440 --> 0:04:24.600 Right. 0:04:24.800 --> 0:04:28.200 The trade itself was a phenomenal trade. I think this 0:04:28.240 --> 0:04:30.880 is one of the guys that we've been chasing since 0:04:31.040 --> 0:04:33.800 Jay Ratliffe in my opinion, you haven't had a physical 0:04:33.839 --> 0:04:37.440 guy in the middle of this defense, uh since Jay Ratliff, 0:04:37.440 --> 0:04:39.800 And some will say, look, you know, Leroy Glover, you 0:04:39.839 --> 0:04:44.760 they're going, you know, back to that. This was we 0:04:44.920 --> 0:04:49.640 had to get now for tomorrow. I don't think this 0:04:49.760 --> 0:04:53.360 season is salvagable, right, but you go when you get 0:04:53.400 --> 0:04:56.080 a player that, now you can see him in this 0:04:56.360 --> 0:04:59.800 unit for the second half of the season, and. 0:04:59.680 --> 0:05:01.680 What a good. 0:05:01.560 --> 0:05:04.520 GM would do and say, Okay, we have him, Let's 0:05:04.520 --> 0:05:07.400 see how he looks with these guys, and now how 0:05:07.400 --> 0:05:08.280 do we build around it? 0:05:08.480 --> 0:05:08.840 Gotcha? 0:05:09.440 --> 0:05:12.159 How do we start building it around it? Because look 0:05:12.200 --> 0:05:17.520 across the league at the good defenses in this league, 0:05:17.720 --> 0:05:21.599 you need to have A players, not eight, but eight 0:05:21.680 --> 0:05:24.839 A plus players, and then you surround them with a 0:05:24.880 --> 0:05:27.400 couple of bees over here, a couple of seeds over here, 0:05:27.680 --> 0:05:29.680 you know what I mean. Maybe high the f if 0:05:29.680 --> 0:05:33.400 he's over there somewhere. But but the better part of 0:05:33.440 --> 0:05:36.680 it is I have layers of different level players and 0:05:36.720 --> 0:05:38.919 then when I put them together, the a's make the 0:05:38.960 --> 0:05:41.320 bes go higher, the bees make the seeds go higher. 0:05:41.720 --> 0:05:45.279 And now we're flirting around it being top fourteen thirteen 0:05:45.320 --> 0:05:46.680 to twelve defense. 0:05:46.480 --> 0:05:47.920 And I know what my offense is going to be. 0:05:48.080 --> 0:05:49.839 So let me ask this question to both. Y'll start 0:05:49.839 --> 0:05:52.960 with you, Jesse is Quinn Williams now the best player 0:05:53.000 --> 0:05:56.360 on this defense, hands down, not even close with our question, 0:05:57.000 --> 0:05:57.640 not even close. 0:05:57.720 --> 0:06:00.240 Yea, it's not even argument. I think that Cloud only 0:06:00.279 --> 0:06:02.800 played his best game that he's played last week. If 0:06:02.800 --> 0:06:05.520 you watched the if you watched the video Clowney showed up, 0:06:05.560 --> 0:06:07.320 you said the ads, you made some good plays and 0:06:07.360 --> 0:06:09.599 everything else like that on defense. But when it comes 0:06:09.640 --> 0:06:13.840 to that difference maker that you talked about, this this 0:06:13.920 --> 0:06:15.960 is definitely the difference maker. He's number one on if. 0:06:15.920 --> 0:06:19.160 You're looking at elite players, like if the level is elite, 0:06:19.440 --> 0:06:22.760 he's the closest thing to the elite ceiling. And I 0:06:22.760 --> 0:06:24.719 don't think there's a lot of other jokers who are 0:06:24.760 --> 0:06:27.520 even on the same floor. So he's the closest. When 0:06:27.520 --> 0:06:31.719 you talk about position wise, I mean he's top five 0:06:32.120 --> 0:06:35.760 at that position. You look at, it's Quinnen, It's it's 0:06:36.000 --> 0:06:42.880 Sexy Dexy, it's Jones, Kansas City, Jeffrey Simmons. 0:06:42.640 --> 0:06:43.799 And it's one more that I'm missing. 0:06:43.880 --> 0:06:49.240 I can't uh an interior dude, but he's in that conversation. 0:06:48.880 --> 0:06:51.400 Right right when you when you when you when you bump, 0:06:51.400 --> 0:06:53.720 Phillips used to say, if his name make the head 0:06:53.720 --> 0:06:55.120 of the class, didn't go take long to call the 0:06:55.200 --> 0:06:59.200 role the cover right right right, He's there, Okay, he's 0:06:59.240 --> 0:07:00.000 he's on the metal state. 0:07:00.600 --> 0:07:01.640 He's right there. Okay. 0:07:01.720 --> 0:07:04.520 So if Quinn Williams is your best player, who is 0:07:04.560 --> 0:07:06.360 your second best player on defense. 0:07:08.279 --> 0:07:12.800 Right now, You're gonna have to go. Probably it's gonna 0:07:12.840 --> 0:07:15.200 be up front. It's gonna be Kenny Clark. And if 0:07:15.200 --> 0:07:17.360 it's not Kenny, if it's not going to be him, 0:07:17.600 --> 0:07:20.640 it's going to be the line the linebacker today bringing 0:07:20.720 --> 0:07:23.720 in because like right now, what we've seen on the 0:07:23.760 --> 0:07:26.280 defense side of the ball, like everybody is struggling at 0:07:26.280 --> 0:07:28.600 every position right now, you know, So. 0:07:28.640 --> 0:07:32.800 To me, right now, it's not even as a Rocco, 0:07:33.680 --> 0:07:35.119 here's a second blessed defensive player. 0:07:35.480 --> 0:07:38.000 So just all right, if you take as a Roku 0:07:38.080 --> 0:07:40.040 and you take Kenny Clark, at least you can say, 0:07:40.160 --> 0:07:43.360 if you're mad ebraflues, now I have the formations of 0:07:43.360 --> 0:07:45.440 what it could possibly be a defensive line as you 0:07:45.480 --> 0:07:48.120 go the rest of the way. That could help because 0:07:48.160 --> 0:07:50.240 because so much we saying, how can you help as 0:07:50.240 --> 0:07:53.200 a ROCU getting better as you know, a rookie. You 0:07:53.200 --> 0:07:55.800 guys know in this league, man, the toughest year you 0:07:55.840 --> 0:07:57.720 have is that first one because you don't know what 0:07:57.760 --> 0:07:58.480 you're getting into. 0:07:59.240 --> 0:08:01.920 He's I mean, like watching him on a video, he's 0:08:01.920 --> 0:08:05.640 still he's still learning. He's highly athletic, first of all, 0:08:05.680 --> 0:08:08.440 you can recognize that. And he's strong, you know, at 0:08:08.480 --> 0:08:11.280 the point of attack. But I don't think that so 0:08:11.480 --> 0:08:15.280 far that his play has equal the numbers have equal 0:08:15.520 --> 0:08:17.840 the amount of play, if what I'm saying. So like, 0:08:17.880 --> 0:08:20.160 he's made plays, but he hasn't made that many big 0:08:20.240 --> 0:08:21.200 impact plays yet. 0:08:21.280 --> 0:08:24.160 All right, So so you got that, and that's just 0:08:24.280 --> 0:08:25.040 moving forward. 0:08:25.120 --> 0:08:28.640 As I'm trying, I'm trying to be a positive in 0:08:28.720 --> 0:08:31.040 a really you look at the schedule a non positive 0:08:31.080 --> 0:08:35.320 situation here. I think this year is lost. But as 0:08:35.320 --> 0:08:38.000 you're going forward, you've got what is the plan? How 0:08:38.000 --> 0:08:40.040 do you start to use these guys? Figure it out 0:08:40.120 --> 0:08:42.040 right now, figure out the rest of the half of 0:08:42.040 --> 0:08:44.160 the year what you have so you know, going into 0:08:44.200 --> 0:08:47.400 free agency and what's left in the draft where you 0:08:47.400 --> 0:08:50.800 plug these holes to try to get yourself better next year. 0:08:51.080 --> 0:08:53.880 And it sounds as though Matt eber Flus will be 0:08:53.920 --> 0:08:56.160 back because Jerry did his radio show yesterday said he 0:08:56.200 --> 0:08:59.920 made a mistake and having three defensive coordinators over there 0:09:00.160 --> 0:09:01.120 straight years. 0:09:00.960 --> 0:09:04.760 Which by the way, wasn't totally Jerry's fault, right because 0:09:05.280 --> 0:09:08.600 and then here's why, here's why, here's why. And trust me, 0:09:08.640 --> 0:09:10.200 I'm not the one that's gonna that's gonna put the 0:09:10.240 --> 0:09:13.720 cape on for Jerry. You were losing down dan Quinn 0:09:13.880 --> 0:09:15.160 unless you made him your head coach. 0:09:15.400 --> 0:09:16.120 That was happening. 0:09:16.160 --> 0:09:17.720 He went and got a head coaching job. He didn't 0:09:17.760 --> 0:09:20.120 leave on another DC job. He went to become a 0:09:20.160 --> 0:09:22.920 head coach. So unless you were planning on flying Mike 0:09:23.320 --> 0:09:26.920 at that time, Mike Michael from Pittsburgh, dan quit was 0:09:26.920 --> 0:09:32.560 going right then when you had Zim, Zim made it 0:09:32.679 --> 0:09:34.920 very clear, I want to be a head coach. I'm 0:09:34.960 --> 0:09:38.160 not working for this kid. What do you have to do. 0:09:38.840 --> 0:09:42.280 So it wasn't as if the DC's had a choice. 0:09:42.320 --> 0:09:45.480 They had a choice, but it wasn't like Jerry. His 0:09:45.559 --> 0:09:48.760 choice was make them the head coach or lose them. Okay, 0:09:48.840 --> 0:09:51.840 so let me so that that's two of them, right, Like, 0:09:51.920 --> 0:09:54.080 So now, Matty Ebra Flew's different story. 0:09:54.200 --> 0:09:55.080 Here's where I'll counting. 0:09:55.200 --> 0:09:59.040 Okay, so Dan Quinn left, Joet Junior told me he 0:09:59.080 --> 0:10:01.560 wanted the job. He was already in the building. Yeah, 0:10:01.559 --> 0:10:04.680 he's here. He was with Q when they put in 0:10:04.720 --> 0:10:07.800 the pieces. He knew what to do, but they didn't 0:10:07.800 --> 0:10:08.720 want to give him a job. 0:10:09.120 --> 0:10:09.440 Okay. 0:10:09.520 --> 0:10:11.560 Another guy who was here in the building eight and 0:10:11.559 --> 0:10:14.319 dirty right now, he's the defensive coordinator of Seattle. 0:10:14.320 --> 0:10:15.520 I damn good team. I've got too. 0:10:16.600 --> 0:10:20.000 I think everybody's sitting there saying hmmm wow. So you 0:10:20.160 --> 0:10:24.439 had two guys with institutional knowledge of the organization and 0:10:24.920 --> 0:10:27.160 you said no. I heard some people say, well, you know, 0:10:27.240 --> 0:10:29.000 Jerry doesn't like first time coordinators. 0:10:29.200 --> 0:10:33.240 Really, I'm sorry. What was Kellen Moore? What was Jason Garrett? 0:10:34.559 --> 0:10:37.679 What was Brian Stewart? We've seen this happen before. You 0:10:37.720 --> 0:10:39.920 brought in Mike Zimmer. My issue with Adi've heard me 0:10:39.960 --> 0:10:41.439 say it on the Players hundred four. 0:10:42.000 --> 0:10:44.480 You brought in a dude who wins with big people 0:10:44.640 --> 0:10:48.400 up front, You got little people. You got a guy 0:10:48.440 --> 0:10:50.800 that you know and you like, but you're not giving 0:10:50.920 --> 0:10:53.600 him the pieces that he needs. Meanwhile, you passed on 0:10:53.640 --> 0:10:56.719 two guys who knew and understood the pieces. 0:10:57.400 --> 0:11:00.640 So Mike Country to you was just Jerry. He could 0:11:00.679 --> 0:11:01.840 have stayed in house. 0:11:02.240 --> 0:11:06.080 You look at San Francisco, Demiko Rance takes over coordinator, 0:11:06.120 --> 0:11:07.760 then he goes to become a head coach. I mean 0:11:07.800 --> 0:11:10.240 you have Salah, the Sala left, the Demico took over. 0:11:10.280 --> 0:11:12.920 I mean they just kept on fuling people who knew what. 0:11:13.040 --> 0:11:14.800 And that's how most organizations do it. 0:11:14.880 --> 0:11:15.720 Ding ding ding. 0:11:15.960 --> 0:11:18.640 Well, they said, Belichick kept bringing you played with Beltry. 0:11:19.240 --> 0:11:21.000 I mean, look look at Detroit. Try's like, we ain't 0:11:21.000 --> 0:11:22.720 gonna go to the building the next game. You up 0:11:23.000 --> 0:11:26.640 your turn. Next guy up. That's how you build a tree, right, 0:11:26.640 --> 0:11:28.640 That's how you begin to build your trees. Right, all right, 0:11:28.640 --> 0:11:29.160 next guy up? 0:11:29.200 --> 0:11:30.960 You played at Carolina. You know what it is we're 0:11:31.000 --> 0:11:34.480 teaching you. Absolutely, you played in it, You've been around it. Hey, 0:11:34.559 --> 0:11:35.679 you coach, you coaching it? 0:11:35.800 --> 0:11:36.040 Right? 0:11:36.080 --> 0:11:39.200 So yeah, absolutely, I'm just saying for those guys, it 0:11:39.280 --> 0:11:41.920 wasn't like he pushed those the head guys like the 0:11:42.200 --> 0:11:44.680 DC's out. Now to your point, yes, he won one 0:11:44.720 --> 0:11:47.520 hundred percent. Could have went inside. Now, there may be 0:11:47.559 --> 0:11:51.000 some other things that's deeply rooted in that don't know, right, 0:11:51.320 --> 0:11:54.560 don't know. The one thing that I've kind of noticed 0:11:54.679 --> 0:11:56.720 there's been a little bit of a trend with Jerry 0:11:56.720 --> 0:11:58.240 and hired at least on the defensive side. 0:11:58.240 --> 0:12:00.439 Maybe a lot of times if he. 0:12:00.400 --> 0:12:03.040 Ain't your friend or he ain't really familiar with you, 0:12:04.120 --> 0:12:06.400 I don't think he really want to take that shot. 0:12:06.559 --> 0:12:10.280 That's that's been where and wrong or right. That's just 0:12:10.400 --> 0:12:13.040 feels like the trend that he works with. If I'm 0:12:13.040 --> 0:12:16.360 going to hire a coordinator or you know, if this 0:12:16.400 --> 0:12:18.959 head coach doesn't come in and have is the coordinator 0:12:19.320 --> 0:12:21.800 of that particular side. You know, with Wade, he was 0:12:21.800 --> 0:12:24.600 a defensive coordinator, right, so like Jason, he became an officer. 0:12:25.280 --> 0:12:27.600 If you're not like this with the Jones family or 0:12:27.640 --> 0:12:32.920 Jerry Jones in some of those instances, you get overlooked. 0:12:32.440 --> 0:12:33.720 But they didn't know Dan Quinno. 0:12:34.200 --> 0:12:36.439 It's it's hard to say, like what it is because 0:12:36.440 --> 0:12:38.400 of ads, Like you've been in the building, You've been 0:12:38.440 --> 0:12:40.600 in the building for a long time. Me watching from 0:12:40.640 --> 0:12:42.800 the outside all the time, I'm like, is the point 0:12:42.800 --> 0:12:46.520 of emphasis not on the defense at all? You know? Yeah, no, 0:12:46.880 --> 0:12:49.880 And it's clear and it has been clear for a 0:12:49.960 --> 0:12:50.640 number of years. 0:12:50.640 --> 0:12:51.800 Defense don't sell tickets. 0:12:51.840 --> 0:12:53.640 Hey, but defense wins championships. 0:12:53.760 --> 0:12:55.360 Defense don't sell teach and I understand. 0:12:55.400 --> 0:12:57.240 So, like the game has definitely changed to a high 0:12:57.520 --> 0:12:59.440 high scoring point and game and everything else like that, 0:12:59.480 --> 0:13:01.520 but you still had to have somebody out there. If 0:13:01.559 --> 0:13:04.840 you go on blow for blow, I guess you could 0:13:04.840 --> 0:13:07.960 say who gets the ball last? Whoever getting the ball last? 0:13:08.000 --> 0:13:09.600 On offense, that defense is going to have to know 0:13:09.600 --> 0:13:12.080 how to stop somebody, you know. And at this point, 0:13:12.240 --> 0:13:14.720 you know, it goes back to what I said weeks ago. 0:13:14.880 --> 0:13:18.480 I've never seen a big name linebacker in here. I've 0:13:18.520 --> 0:13:20.800 never seen the face of the defense be like some 0:13:20.920 --> 0:13:24.319 dude who is like like a London Fletcher, like like 0:13:24.960 --> 0:13:27.800 Bobby Wagner. You don't. You don't see those type of 0:13:27.800 --> 0:13:29.760 guys in the middle of this defense here. 0:13:29.840 --> 0:13:32.000 That goes back to Jimmy Johnson's philosophy. 0:13:32.120 --> 0:13:36.160 Jimmy has basically, I'm putting my putting, my picks and 0:13:36.160 --> 0:13:37.880 my money up from the front end. 0:13:37.760 --> 0:13:38.360 In the back end. 0:13:38.480 --> 0:13:40.280 That was how Jimmy did. I'll fill in the middle 0:13:40.440 --> 0:13:42.800 with guys. I mean, I think when Jimmy was here, 0:13:43.480 --> 0:13:45.800 they use a first rounder on Robert Jones out of 0:13:45.800 --> 0:13:48.360 East Carolina, but after that they really didn't. And even 0:13:48.480 --> 0:13:50.040 when they brought in Kenny Norton, they let him go. 0:13:50.400 --> 0:13:53.000 They drafted Kenny and maybe second, second or third round, 0:13:53.000 --> 0:13:54.319 but then you know, when it's trying to pay him, 0:13:54.920 --> 0:13:56.560 they let him go and he went to San Francisco 0:13:56.600 --> 0:13:59.440 and won that Super Bowl twenty nine with the forty 0:13:59.520 --> 0:14:01.960 nine ers. But but that's never been their deal in 0:14:02.080 --> 0:14:04.559 terms of paying a guy. Now, they did draft Lake 0:14:04.679 --> 0:14:07.319 Van de sh so they used on him. He's a 0:14:07.360 --> 0:14:12.079 second rounder on Sean Lee, but and unfortunately they paid Sean. 0:14:12.120 --> 0:14:13.080 Sean just stayed hurt. 0:14:13.200 --> 0:14:16.080 Both of these dudes out the league because of injuries. 0:14:16.440 --> 0:14:19.360 You know, they never they never materialized to be drafted. 0:14:20.600 --> 0:14:23.600 Bruce Carter Cruse Carter from Carolina was second, another guy 0:14:23.600 --> 0:14:27.880 who had injury. So uh with Jams Smith, David Smith, 0:14:27.920 --> 0:14:30.320 you know, another guy with injury. So so they used 0:14:30.360 --> 0:14:33.240 they've used high picks on him, not really first a 0:14:33.280 --> 0:14:34.960 lot of the times there were just some issues. 0:14:35.520 --> 0:14:37.000 But no, there's never been a hey. 0:14:36.800 --> 0:14:38.960 Man, we about to go draft junior, sayout man to 0:14:39.080 --> 0:14:40.760 come in here be a lot, but that's not that's 0:14:40.800 --> 0:14:41.040 not that. 0:14:41.200 --> 0:14:43.880 And so there's no and so like we said, this 0:14:44.000 --> 0:14:46.680 week's ago. There's no identity to this defense, and that 0:14:46.840 --> 0:14:49.280 there has not been one in years. 0:14:49.560 --> 0:14:52.280 But if you change coordinators every year, how can you 0:14:52.280 --> 0:14:52.600 get in that? 0:14:52.680 --> 0:14:54.600 Do you know what it's about the guys that are 0:14:54.640 --> 0:14:57.080 in the locker room. It goes back to that, like 0:14:57.120 --> 0:14:59.920 you could change coordinators. And I understand, like if we're 0:15:00.080 --> 0:15:01.520 building a three to four and we got to have 0:15:01.560 --> 0:15:04.320 these type of dudes and we're building structurally like big, 0:15:04.360 --> 0:15:06.400 big guys, But at the same time you're going out 0:15:06.400 --> 0:15:09.080 there and you're finding big guys that play football, you're 0:15:09.120 --> 0:15:11.920 not finding big system guys. You know, That's not what 0:15:11.960 --> 0:15:14.280 I'm looking for as as a I'm looking for somebody 0:15:14.280 --> 0:15:16.840 that if anything happens, this dude can get to the ball, 0:15:16.880 --> 0:15:19.240 he can play football, and it doesn't matter what scheme 0:15:19.320 --> 0:15:19.640 he's in. 0:15:19.760 --> 0:15:20.520 We're gonna take a break. 0:15:20.600 --> 0:15:23.000 I want to go back to what you're saying right here, 0:15:23.040 --> 0:15:27.880 Anthony Door said, because there was once a philosophy going 0:15:27.880 --> 0:15:30.360 along with what you're talking about, but they went away 0:15:30.400 --> 0:15:33.600 from it. 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Anthony Dorsett has been there 0:18:06.840 --> 0:18:08.680 taking his son out there to catch at show. 0:18:08.760 --> 0:18:10.360 Jesse Holly, have you been out there yet? 0:18:10.359 --> 0:18:10.479 Man? 0:18:10.560 --> 0:18:12.439 I have done? Okay, I'm tell you right now. Man, 0:18:12.440 --> 0:18:15.520 it's good show. Man's free. I know it fits the Holly. 0:18:15.840 --> 0:18:18.320 Jesse Holly, Yeah, yeah, you're talking about it. Talk about 0:18:18.320 --> 0:18:21.280 a philosophy. I can tell you philosophy. If it's free, 0:18:21.800 --> 0:18:24.840 it's for me exactly, all right, I fit the Jesse 0:18:24.920 --> 0:18:25.640 Holly philosophy. 0:18:25.720 --> 0:18:28.280 Former Cowboy Jesse Holly, here, I'm new. We strutch by 0:18:28.320 --> 0:18:30.239 the way, we skip before we get back to the 0:18:30.280 --> 0:18:35.080 football Carolina basketball. He was right about homeboy from Europe. 0:18:35.520 --> 0:18:36.480 Yeah, you're right. 0:18:37.119 --> 0:18:39.560 Come on now, I think I think you forgot something 0:18:39.560 --> 0:18:40.160 going down there. 0:18:40.400 --> 0:18:40.840 I need it. 0:18:40.920 --> 0:18:43.000 Danguary third would be they'll be here Danuary third. 0:18:43.680 --> 0:18:46.760 Really that's North Carolina a sec right, yes, yes. 0:18:46.680 --> 0:18:49.520 What time? It's a night game? Flying back in. 0:18:51.760 --> 0:18:55.320 All right, Pete, I'll beat That's what I go get 0:18:56.160 --> 0:18:58.560 get the credictionals going past right right right right right. Yea, 0:18:59.480 --> 0:19:01.520 we setting up a nice little dinner now because you 0:19:01.600 --> 0:19:02.320 got a bunch of guys. 0:19:02.400 --> 0:19:06.439 You got Mac Tar's here by loved me back to mac. 0:19:08.720 --> 0:19:10.120 In Jiji. 0:19:10.520 --> 0:19:11.720 Well you talk about that. 0:19:13.119 --> 0:19:15.679 You ever see that that that skit that Eddie Murphy 0:19:15.720 --> 0:19:18.439 did on on Chappelle's Show, and it was it was 0:19:18.520 --> 0:19:21.119 a real life story with Eddie Murphy's truth. I mean, 0:19:21.480 --> 0:19:23.880 Charlie Murphy. I'm sorry, Charlie Mury, Charlie Murphy's real story. 0:19:23.920 --> 0:19:26.880 Let me get Rick James mac Tar should have one 0:19:26.920 --> 0:19:28.680 man where Mac Tar just sit around here and tell 0:19:28.720 --> 0:19:31.120 you stuff he's seen in the league and stuff. Well, 0:19:31.160 --> 0:19:33.880 I tell mac Tar got stories he does he does 0:19:34.080 --> 0:19:36.760 story man. Yeah, it's not the Happy Birthday to Jerry 0:19:36.760 --> 0:19:41.159 Stockhouse too, Today's birthday Stack. Okay, yeah, we got we 0:19:41.240 --> 0:19:44.840 got a nice little I'm Prittley's. 0:19:43.840 --> 0:19:44.640 In North Carolina. 0:19:44.680 --> 0:19:47.280 Man, People like joke around and they talk about like 0:19:47.280 --> 0:19:49.800 when you hear the stories of like Stack, like Stack 0:19:49.840 --> 0:19:51.800 ain't want to be he ain't wanted to be trifle with, 0:19:52.920 --> 0:19:55.400 like Stack ain't want to be trifle with, like like. 0:19:56.960 --> 0:19:57.120 Sta. 0:20:00.280 --> 0:20:04.320 I hate for Jerry that I was there covering the 0:20:04.359 --> 0:20:06.200 maps when they went to the finals and No. Six 0:20:06.280 --> 0:20:08.480 and Jerry was on that team and they were up two, 0:20:08.800 --> 0:20:11.160 they were up two oh on Miami had beat Miami 0:20:11.240 --> 0:20:14.160 two oh that season and in Game three they're up 0:20:14.200 --> 0:20:16.200 thirteen with six minutes to go and end up blowing 0:20:16.200 --> 0:20:18.320 that game and then lost four straight. I hate the 0:20:18.359 --> 0:20:21.080 stack never got a ring with the tar Heels or 0:20:21.119 --> 0:20:23.639 in the NBA, because he was definitely a player worthy 0:20:23.640 --> 0:20:23.800 of it. 0:20:23.800 --> 0:20:26.040 If Jerry Stackhouse made FeelA look good. 0:20:25.880 --> 0:20:27.600 Hey, Jerry, he was one of He was one of 0:20:27.600 --> 0:20:29.640 my He was one of my favorite players at one 0:20:29.640 --> 0:20:32.200 point in time. He was a baller, you know. And 0:20:32.280 --> 0:20:36.159 North Carolina just got I mean, y'all, y'all got hoop history. 0:20:36.280 --> 0:20:38.880 I mean, everybody's gonna think about Jordan, but I mean 0:20:38.920 --> 0:20:42.320 it's it's it's it's names to go way beyond Jordan. 0:20:42.400 --> 0:20:43.800 You know what I'm saying. And if you're a true 0:20:43.880 --> 0:20:48.160 basketball fan, so shout out to you bro that that right, 0:20:48.200 --> 0:20:50.760 there is some history and it's a great. 0:20:50.880 --> 0:20:54.320 Dron Blank gave me flashbacks on Saturday though, Phil Real, 0:20:54.400 --> 0:20:57.960 Ralph Jerry, Phil Real just forget it against. 0:20:58.280 --> 0:21:02.840 Not five stop stop Lee five and Loan Charlotte stone 0:21:02.920 --> 0:21:05.760 Man West Charlotte's home man Jeff mcinnon. But going back 0:21:05.840 --> 0:21:08.040 Lenny Rosebluth Man back back there in the fifty seventeen 0:21:08.080 --> 0:21:11.160 to beat Wilf Chamberlain double overtime win Na's championship man. 0:21:11.560 --> 0:21:13.960 A lot of history, history, A lot of history, man, 0:21:14.000 --> 0:21:16.280 a lot of history. I love me se Carolina basketball. 0:21:16.320 --> 0:21:18.280 So all right, by the way, Jesse Holly played there 0:21:18.280 --> 0:21:20.399 playing the national championship team won all two thousand and five. 0:21:20.440 --> 0:21:23.600 Be the very very good Illinois team led by Darren Williams. 0:21:24.720 --> 0:21:25.440 That come a good team. 0:21:26.240 --> 0:21:28.520 So Anthony Dorris said, we're talking about the Cowboys, and 0:21:28.560 --> 0:21:30.480 you were talking about, you know, the kind of players 0:21:30.520 --> 0:21:30.840 and so. 0:21:31.600 --> 0:21:32.600 You know, a philosophy. 0:21:32.920 --> 0:21:35.240 When Bill Parcells got here as head coach man, he 0:21:35.320 --> 0:21:38.159 went to them and he talked about first thing he wanted. 0:21:38.440 --> 0:21:42.880 He wanted guys who were captains, guys who loved football. 0:21:43.040 --> 0:21:45.480 They didn't want troublemakers. He had guys at a team 0:21:45.640 --> 0:21:46.280 no time for that. 0:21:46.320 --> 0:21:46.399 Man. 0:21:46.440 --> 0:21:47.800 He wanted guys who was serious. 0:21:47.840 --> 0:21:51.240 And so that's where they started drafting people like Swago 0:21:51.400 --> 0:21:55.119 Marcus Spears, national champion in LSU who played for played 0:21:55.160 --> 0:21:57.119 for Nick Savan They went out there and drafted to 0:21:57.200 --> 0:22:00.000 Kevin Burnett, who was a captain at the University of Tennis. 0:22:00.040 --> 0:22:03.040 He drafted adjacent Whitt and they started drafting these kind 0:22:03.080 --> 0:22:03.920 of dudes. 0:22:03.560 --> 0:22:04.920 That fit what Bill wanted. 0:22:05.160 --> 0:22:08.199 Their football players are about that life and they were 0:22:08.240 --> 0:22:10.359 already leaders where they were at, Dudes that he ain't 0:22:10.359 --> 0:22:12.040 had to sit around here worry about. They won a 0:22:12.040 --> 0:22:16.800 bunch of knuckleheads out there, and those guys were good. 0:22:17.600 --> 0:22:22.159 He had substance, not flashed and sizzle. He wasn't drafting 0:22:22.160 --> 0:22:24.640 to Randy Gregory. Okay, Randy Gregory would have come around. 0:22:24.680 --> 0:22:28.440 Bill Parcells was here. That's what he was looking for. 0:22:28.640 --> 0:22:31.640 DeMarcus Ware, you know, Terrence Newman, who he didn't want 0:22:32.200 --> 0:22:33.119 but he ended up. 0:22:33.160 --> 0:22:34.840 You know, that was his kind of guy. 0:22:34.920 --> 0:22:36.879 Dad Wyn who was already hed he want that win, 0:22:36.960 --> 0:22:38.800 but he said, okay, this he caught that a football 0:22:38.800 --> 0:22:41.359 playing guy. They played the kind of football that he won. 0:22:43.080 --> 0:22:46.800 Parcels left. They got away from it. You don't see 0:22:46.800 --> 0:22:49.560 those kinds. You see the Randy Gregory's of the world. 0:22:49.640 --> 0:22:51.800 You see the Mazzie Smiths of the world. 0:22:51.920 --> 0:22:52.880 You know, a guy like. 0:22:52.800 --> 0:22:56.119 Mazzie Smith who was traded to New York. You have 0:22:56.160 --> 0:22:58.800 to identify that. You have to identify, dude, do you 0:22:58.920 --> 0:22:59.560 like this or not? 0:23:00.800 --> 0:23:01.280 I love it. 0:23:01.320 --> 0:23:04.680 There's one critique that I have about Jerry Jones, and 0:23:04.920 --> 0:23:07.959 sometimes when it comes to the evaluation of certain things 0:23:08.560 --> 0:23:13.760 is I get the process of group think. I understand that, 0:23:14.840 --> 0:23:18.800 but I also under like I don't need everybody's opinion. 0:23:19.880 --> 0:23:23.399 I don't Rod Marinelli, I don't prime example, Rod Marynell 0:23:23.480 --> 0:23:26.520 coaching like correct like Tristan Hill. He's like, I want 0:23:26.560 --> 0:23:27.200 Tristan Hill. 0:23:27.520 --> 0:23:30.640 So Tristan Hill was a Group five guy UCF, and 0:23:30.800 --> 0:23:35.000 his last year there they basically the coaching staff was 0:23:35.040 --> 0:23:38.280 tired of him, so he wasn't starting. It was up 0:23:38.280 --> 0:23:40.840 and down, and the coaching staff was led by Josh 0:23:40.840 --> 0:23:42.160 Heipel who's now at Tennessee. 0:23:42.920 --> 0:23:46.000 Well, if a dude is at UCF. 0:23:45.560 --> 0:23:47.880 And it's spotty and he's not playing, you're not using 0:23:47.920 --> 0:23:50.280 the second round pick on it. But what they did 0:23:50.640 --> 0:23:53.919 they decided to go ahead and go to Scott talk 0:23:54.000 --> 0:23:56.680 to Scott Frost who left the Nebraska Scott Frout. But 0:23:56.720 --> 0:23:58.840 I liked the guy man, that was all good. So 0:23:58.920 --> 0:24:02.320 you did that then Mary Nelly, Hey, I like Taco Charleton. 0:24:02.320 --> 0:24:04.080 Can he fit the scheme over TJ. 0:24:04.160 --> 0:24:04.440 Watt. 0:24:04.520 --> 0:24:06.200 And if you go out to what Parcels was doing. 0:24:06.240 --> 0:24:08.560 Parcels look at a guy like TJ. Watt and said, well, 0:24:08.600 --> 0:24:10.920 that was the Big Ten defensive player of the year. 0:24:11.280 --> 0:24:14.080 Guy been balling every year, He's been got pedigree. He 0:24:14.200 --> 0:24:15.560 come from them, you know what I'm saying. 0:24:15.680 --> 0:24:17.639 And I think that that's the part where it's like, 0:24:19.760 --> 0:24:22.560 let your scouts do what they do best, right Like, 0:24:22.920 --> 0:24:25.480 you know, hey, coach, what type of player are you 0:24:25.520 --> 0:24:28.560 looking for? Right now? Coach? Okay, you know I write 0:24:28.560 --> 0:24:30.400 this down. Okay, he wants this guy, this guy, this guy, 0:24:30.440 --> 0:24:31.280 this guy cool. 0:24:31.760 --> 0:24:32.159 I got you. 0:24:32.880 --> 0:24:35.480 Then let Will and his staff deploy them out to 0:24:35.520 --> 0:24:36.960 go and find a guy. But when you when you 0:24:37.000 --> 0:24:40.360 start allowing everybody to have a voice in this situation, 0:24:40.520 --> 0:24:44.959 you get Taco Chalcon, you get uh, you get players 0:24:45.000 --> 0:24:47.160 that you can't, you get a Masi Smith, you get 0:24:47.160 --> 0:24:51.720 these type of collaborations. Yeah, And that's like that's the 0:24:51.800 --> 0:24:54.840 one thing at times, like as much as Jerry has 0:24:54.880 --> 0:24:58.000 this alpha mentality about certain things, and you know, I'm 0:24:58.000 --> 0:25:00.040 the GM and I'm gonna make the I don't you 0:25:00.119 --> 0:25:02.800 need a group collaboration on certain things when you play 0:25:02.840 --> 0:25:04.760 for the Raiders is mister Davis a collaborator. 0:25:07.320 --> 0:25:09.720 Ad was gonna make that call, and he didn't care 0:25:09.800 --> 0:25:12.480 who had what to say about it and who didn't 0:25:12.560 --> 0:25:14.040 like it, or if they did like it. It was 0:25:14.080 --> 0:25:16.800 gonna be he was gonna make that final call regardless. 0:25:16.960 --> 0:25:20.120 And you know, like you talk about the evaluation process here, 0:25:20.320 --> 0:25:22.199 one of the things that I've always noticed and I've 0:25:22.240 --> 0:25:24.560 always thought is like, and I've said this before, everybody's 0:25:24.640 --> 0:25:27.359 viewing through the same binoculars regardless if you're getting if 0:25:27.400 --> 0:25:29.280 you're not taking the advice from over here or taking 0:25:29.280 --> 0:25:31.040 it from over there. Like at the end of the day, 0:25:31.080 --> 0:25:36.280 it's nobody honestly saying like, I ain't seeing what you're seeing. See, 0:25:36.640 --> 0:25:38.840 And that's what needs to be said. It's been too 0:25:38.920 --> 0:25:41.680 much tiptoeing around this building and instead of beating around 0:25:41.680 --> 0:25:43.800 the bush, sometimes you gotta go straight through it. And 0:25:43.800 --> 0:25:45.880 that's one of the things that has not been done here, 0:25:46.359 --> 0:25:48.560 at least on the defensive side of the ball anyway. 0:25:48.760 --> 0:25:51.080 You know, the accountability that when it comes to like 0:25:51.080 --> 0:25:53.080 when I hear these dudes talk about you know, I 0:25:53.160 --> 0:25:54.600 was here with this coach, and I was here with 0:25:54.680 --> 0:25:56.639 that coach and this was going on and that was 0:25:56.680 --> 0:25:59.080 going well. Damn. Like when you recognize that and you 0:25:59.200 --> 0:26:00.960 part of it, you got to be part of the change. 0:26:01.000 --> 0:26:03.800 But that's the thing is that you're bringing people in 0:26:03.840 --> 0:26:06.920 here or that doesn't that don't come from a pedigree, 0:26:07.240 --> 0:26:11.320 that don't come in here, Like you're not you're not 0:26:11.359 --> 0:26:13.800 bringing Ray Lewis in here, who has spent twelve years 0:26:13.800 --> 0:26:16.639 in the Baltimore Ravens organization. I remember a couple of 0:26:16.680 --> 0:26:22.200 years ago, this might have been maybe five six years ago, 0:26:22.320 --> 0:26:25.879 tell Us Benett brother Michael Bennett. Yes, Michael Bennett came 0:26:25.920 --> 0:26:28.680 in here, and Michael Bennett was here for thirteen seconds, 0:26:28.720 --> 0:26:32.560 two seconds and was the leader because he came and 0:26:32.600 --> 0:26:34.600 it was like wait, this dude just got here, and 0:26:34.600 --> 0:26:36.720 he's like, man, what the what are y'all doing? Yeah, 0:26:36.800 --> 0:26:39.720 you know what I'm saying. That was somebody who came 0:26:39.880 --> 0:26:43.639 from something and knew what it took to win it all. 0:26:43.840 --> 0:26:46.440 And when he got here, the dudes who were supposed 0:26:46.480 --> 0:26:48.720 to be your leaders here, they tucked that tail and 0:26:48.720 --> 0:26:51.760 he was telling them like man and that. But what 0:26:51.880 --> 0:26:53.040 ended up happening was. 0:26:54.640 --> 0:26:59.200 He got he was the outcast because the large majority 0:26:59.280 --> 0:27:00.040 of the group looked at. 0:27:00.160 --> 0:27:03.200 Him, like what you're doing all right? 0:27:03.240 --> 0:27:05.000 And so so that's the type of mentality that you 0:27:05.080 --> 0:27:09.600 have to get in here. And you don't have enough 0:27:09.640 --> 0:27:11.480 of those guys in here. You don't have enough of 0:27:11.640 --> 0:27:14.320 I love football dudes in here. You have enough. You 0:27:14.359 --> 0:27:16.360 have a lot of dudes in here who like football, 0:27:16.720 --> 0:27:19.920 who like what football brings. You don't have enough lovers 0:27:19.960 --> 0:27:22.600 of the game like And that's a that's a that's 0:27:22.640 --> 0:27:25.160 a very distinct difference. And I know people say, well 0:27:25.320 --> 0:27:27.639 that Prences's that's a great leader. That's not going to 0:27:27.680 --> 0:27:30.359 the other side of the defense. He worried about his 0:27:30.400 --> 0:27:32.560 side of the ball, right, Like he might say some 0:27:32.600 --> 0:27:35.320 things here and there, But there's not enough of those 0:27:35.440 --> 0:27:40.159 guys in this organization. When you're talking about the guys 0:27:40.160 --> 0:27:44.040 of those nineties teams, right that tells me. Nate tells 0:27:44.040 --> 0:27:46.560 me all the time. Like Nate was like when Charles 0:27:46.600 --> 0:27:50.639 Haley came over, he was like the say Tod Nate said, Man, 0:27:50.680 --> 0:27:52.720 I think you're a really good player, he said, but 0:27:52.760 --> 0:27:54.560 I watched you the first on field, first six game 0:27:54.600 --> 0:27:58.000 in the season, you were good. The last seven games 0:27:58.000 --> 0:28:00.440 of the season, you were trash. You know why, you fat? 0:28:00.480 --> 0:28:02.960 Slowing out of shape. He was like, we ain't gonna 0:28:02.960 --> 0:28:05.159 win if you if you are starting whatever, and you 0:28:05.280 --> 0:28:07.359 that way, we ain't gonna never win. And you and 0:28:07.400 --> 0:28:09.200 you and you and you and you and you. 0:28:09.320 --> 0:28:11.119 And now everybody started getting in the line. Right now. 0:28:11.160 --> 0:28:12.000 You had a bunch of people. 0:28:12.040 --> 0:28:14.399 Jimmy brought a bunch of people in here that loved 0:28:14.440 --> 0:28:16.439 the game of football. There's a lot of people in 0:28:16.440 --> 0:28:18.639 this world. There's not enough people on this football team, 0:28:19.840 --> 0:28:24.719 from player number one to play number fifty three. 0:28:24.800 --> 0:28:27.080 There was also fear loss when Jimmy was here. Yes, 0:28:27.560 --> 0:28:29.680 guys knew that you could get cut. Jimmy would tell you, 0:28:29.680 --> 0:28:32.680 I'm drafting your replacement. So so guys knew. 0:28:32.480 --> 0:28:33.119 What was up. 0:28:34.520 --> 0:28:35.560 In the Garrett Ears. 0:28:35.640 --> 0:28:38.400 There wasn't that people had jobs, come to camp, had 0:28:38.400 --> 0:28:40.320 a job. I remember what year, man, it was like 0:28:40.880 --> 0:28:45.560 day two they gave Romo day off, day two. 0:28:45.840 --> 0:28:47.400 What do we do? It's day two or three? Said 0:28:47.400 --> 0:28:47.960 what are we doing? 0:28:48.480 --> 0:28:50.480 And and so you just saw there was no there 0:28:50.520 --> 0:28:52.520 was no fight for jobs. It's just you know, it was. 0:28:52.560 --> 0:28:52.800 It was. 0:28:52.840 --> 0:28:55.000 It was. But it's the same culture here, and it's 0:28:55.040 --> 0:28:57.520 just different faces and different names. It's the same culture. 0:28:57.720 --> 0:29:01.080 And yeah, so guys know where they can doing end 0:29:01.080 --> 0:29:04.080 around on certain certain areas and get what they want done. 0:29:04.120 --> 0:29:06.200 But and I go back to the thing of what 0:29:06.240 --> 0:29:09.480 we're talking about. Man, there's there's a lot of style. 0:29:09.400 --> 0:29:11.840 But substance. It's a challenge. 0:29:12.040 --> 0:29:13.720 It's a challenge when we're talking about what is the 0:29:13.760 --> 0:29:16.440 substance of things and where they go what they need 0:29:16.480 --> 0:29:19.920 to do around here. But they at least have got 0:29:20.040 --> 0:29:21.800 an elite player now on defensive. 0:29:22.360 --> 0:29:24.320 And here's the thing about quinn though, right like he 0:29:24.520 --> 0:29:28.440 comes he brings elite talent. I don't know if Quinnin 0:29:28.560 --> 0:29:31.160 brings elite leadership. 0:29:31.880 --> 0:29:32.160 I don't. 0:29:32.160 --> 0:29:32.440 I don't. 0:29:32.440 --> 0:29:34.720 I don't want to question his leadership. But he's coming 0:29:34.720 --> 0:29:39.160 from the Jets organization. He's coming from a very dysfunctional organization. Right, 0:29:39.400 --> 0:29:41.440 So what you what you hope is is that he 0:29:41.520 --> 0:29:44.520 brings a level of work ethic word right like, that 0:29:44.600 --> 0:29:47.160 he brings a level of work ethic that's contagious and 0:29:47.160 --> 0:29:49.400 that he can say, hey, listen, I was considered one 0:29:49.440 --> 0:29:51.560 of the best or a part of one of the 0:29:51.560 --> 0:29:54.800 best defenses in the league because of X, Y and Z. 0:29:55.360 --> 0:29:56.040 You know what I'm saying. 0:29:56.320 --> 0:29:59.320 But again, it becomes difficult when it's just one guy, 0:30:00.040 --> 0:30:03.240 and I got thirteen, fourteen, twenty other guys who do 0:30:03.280 --> 0:30:04.200 it the opposite way. 0:30:04.400 --> 0:30:07.600 Can cannot bring up an example of something real quick. 0:30:07.840 --> 0:30:09.720 What I want to do. Let to hold under that 0:30:09.760 --> 0:30:11.720 all right? What was on Professional teas right there, So 0:30:11.760 --> 0:30:14.000 we're gonna go deeper with it. He d's about to 0:30:14.000 --> 0:30:17.000 give us some of that player insight. That's what we 0:30:17.040 --> 0:30:19.080 do here on the Players now, it's Jesse Howley. Anthony 0:30:19.080 --> 0:30:20.880 Door said on new e Scrace. 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Both 0:32:58.640 --> 0:33:00.960 these gentlemen play the National football I just saw some 0:33:01.040 --> 0:33:03.680 breaking news here Kyler Murray placed on I R with 0:33:03.840 --> 0:33:04.520 a foot injury. 0:33:05.080 --> 0:33:07.520 H hmm, that's crazy. 0:33:07.560 --> 0:33:09.000 So you can play the Cowboys. All of a sudden, 0:33:09.000 --> 0:33:11.080 they're like, you know what, you can sit out for 0:33:11.080 --> 0:33:12.440 a little bit got. 0:33:12.360 --> 0:33:15.239 It deal yea, but he get healed up, buddy, right, 0:33:15.520 --> 0:33:17.520 which which you know what, But I'm hearing a lot 0:33:17.560 --> 0:33:20.560 of talk out of some people in Arizona, stay about 0:33:20.600 --> 0:33:23.360 Tay about tider Colin. This this was I was gonna say, 0:33:23.440 --> 0:33:25.280 right there, this is the smartest thing. Okay, we talking 0:33:25.280 --> 0:33:26.520 about Hey man, we get job backed. 0:33:26.520 --> 0:33:27.960 The kid just balked. 0:33:28.040 --> 0:33:30.280 Yeah, the cowboys helped him out. But how what's the 0:33:30.360 --> 0:33:33.360 best way to not bench Kyler Murray and calls any. 0:33:33.280 --> 0:33:36.120 It Maybe you need to get healed. Yeah, you know, 0:33:36.280 --> 0:33:39.320 trying to rush you. Man, you got this contract, long career, and. 0:33:39.400 --> 0:33:42.880 Collin sits like color is he is emotionally fragile, Like 0:33:42.960 --> 0:33:47.040 he's a fragile dude, Like mentally you start to you know, 0:33:47.120 --> 0:33:47.840 he's like, don't yell. 0:33:47.920 --> 0:33:48.120 Let me. 0:33:48.520 --> 0:33:50.320 I can't take you yell. And I can't take being 0:33:50.600 --> 0:33:53.640 you know, I always lie when they had the gaming 0:33:53.720 --> 0:33:55.440 clause in his contract and then no we didn't have 0:33:55.560 --> 0:33:57.400 Yes you did, yes, you did that. 0:33:57.480 --> 0:33:59.400 That didn't just you didn't. 0:33:59.400 --> 0:33:59.760 Oops. 0:34:00.160 --> 0:34:00.920 That ain't the oops. 0:34:01.480 --> 0:34:03.200 Yeah, no, no, you're right, you're right, right, But but 0:34:03.360 --> 0:34:05.880 so so it's this very interesting guy after you know, 0:34:05.920 --> 0:34:08.279 Bressett looked like, you know, black Tom Brady here at 0:34:08.320 --> 0:34:12.359 ATC standing say, man, you and if the head coach 0:34:12.440 --> 0:34:14.160 you out again, you're you're you're you're against it. 0:34:14.440 --> 0:34:16.320 No, no, no, you lost four straight, you lost the 0:34:16.400 --> 0:34:17.040 home to Tennessee. 0:34:17.120 --> 0:34:18.759 You look bad in and find you one hundred grand, 0:34:18.800 --> 0:34:21.240 you up against you trying to win and rally your troops. 0:34:21.280 --> 0:34:23.520 And so I wouldn't be going to Kyler Murray found him. 0:34:24.000 --> 0:34:27.200 I trust Jacoby Brissett. My tidend looks like he's lethal 0:34:27.280 --> 0:34:29.759 that because Brisett's finding the ball now, Marvin Harrison's out 0:34:29.800 --> 0:34:30.240 here balling. 0:34:30.400 --> 0:34:32.080 I know it's the Cowboys. They make it my career. 0:34:32.160 --> 0:34:34.560 David Hey see if he can do it again. 0:34:34.680 --> 0:34:39.040 But yeah, putting Kyler, that's no coincidence. Ain't no coincidence 0:34:39.120 --> 0:34:41.160 right there, because you guys both played in the league. 0:34:41.520 --> 0:34:44.120 If you hurt and ain't need you, you're good. You're good. 0:34:44.680 --> 0:34:45.760 Tell clear clearly. 0:34:46.360 --> 0:34:48.799 The drugs they got good drugs and drugs in them 0:34:48.800 --> 0:34:49.359 training rules. 0:34:49.400 --> 0:34:51.799 They want you out there, Yeah, they want you out there. 0:34:51.960 --> 0:34:52.960 They put you out there. 0:34:53.080 --> 0:34:56.799 So okay, Anthony Dorse said you had a had you're 0:34:56.880 --> 0:34:59.160 ready to lay it on us here right before with break. 0:34:59.160 --> 0:35:00.160 So I want to make sure you had time to 0:35:00.200 --> 0:35:01.040 breathe and get it out there. 0:35:01.080 --> 0:35:03.640 Oh yeah, so before we went to break it was 0:35:03.719 --> 0:35:07.759 the whole thing about building teams and having guys to say, 0:35:08.120 --> 0:35:11.439 come from some type of winning program and being able 0:35:11.520 --> 0:35:14.880 to I guess you could say kickstart your program too 0:35:14.920 --> 0:35:16.520 as well if they coming to the Cowboys from a 0:35:16.560 --> 0:35:18.520 super Bowl team. And you always see at the end 0:35:18.520 --> 0:35:20.520 of the year with whoever goes to Super Bowl, whether 0:35:20.719 --> 0:35:24.200 win or lose, those teams get dismantled because everybody wants 0:35:24.239 --> 0:35:26.800 a little piece of whatever that that that that culture 0:35:27.000 --> 0:35:28.560 was that they had to win and get to the 0:35:28.680 --> 0:35:31.200 get to the super Bowl. Now being a part of 0:35:32.080 --> 0:35:35.239 being in Tennessee, all right, and I could I could 0:35:35.320 --> 0:35:39.359 truly tell you that that like my first three years there, 0:35:39.440 --> 0:35:41.880 we were basically an average team. Okay, we went a 0:35:42.000 --> 0:35:45.440 and eight if we did, you know, maybe nine, but 0:35:45.800 --> 0:35:48.120 we never got passed, never got to the playoffs, and 0:35:48.200 --> 0:35:50.560 there was never anything going on like that. All right, 0:35:50.680 --> 0:35:52.920 So we build this team and of course we got 0:35:52.920 --> 0:35:54.680 a bunch of dudes on the team that Jesse talks 0:35:54.680 --> 0:35:57.080 about that love to play football, all right, But at 0:35:57.120 --> 0:35:59.520 the same time we were a highly competitive team that 0:35:59.680 --> 0:36:01.719 was when the teams that like, I don't know if 0:36:01.760 --> 0:36:04.320 it probably never went on here, but dudes were getting 0:36:04.320 --> 0:36:07.960 in fights in individual meeting rooms. All right, Yeah, that's 0:36:07.960 --> 0:36:11.160 how competitive it was. Okay. But it was one of 0:36:11.200 --> 0:36:13.000 those things where you had so many vets on the 0:36:13.040 --> 0:36:15.480 team that they wasn't afraid to call nobody out like 0:36:15.600 --> 0:36:17.719 Charles Haley, you know, and let you know like, hey, 0:36:18.080 --> 0:36:20.320 this is I ain't asking this from you because I 0:36:20.440 --> 0:36:22.319 want this from you. This is what we need from 0:36:22.360 --> 0:36:24.840 you for us to be able to be successful and win. Okay, 0:36:24.960 --> 0:36:27.640 So going to the Raiders, right, Raiders hadn't been to 0:36:27.719 --> 0:36:29.480 the Super Bowl playoffs and now don't know how many 0:36:29.560 --> 0:36:31.520 years before I got there, But I'm coming off the 0:36:31.560 --> 0:36:33.719 Super Bowl and that's all I know, and that's all 0:36:33.800 --> 0:36:37.760 I'm thinking about, right, So get out there many camps 0:36:37.800 --> 0:36:39.520 and everything else like that, and I start preaching it. 0:36:39.600 --> 0:36:42.359 Then hey, look, let's start getting this in our heads 0:36:42.440 --> 0:36:44.840 right now about trying to get to the postseason and 0:36:44.920 --> 0:36:46.640 da da da da. And in the beginning, it was 0:36:46.719 --> 0:36:51.279 dudes out there sucking at like they didn't want to hear, right, right, 0:36:51.360 --> 0:36:53.840 and so like, but every day I stayed with it. Okay, 0:36:54.160 --> 0:36:56.680 and so finally one day somebody did something and I 0:36:56.800 --> 0:36:58.600 was like, look, man, whoever doing that? Just stay out 0:36:58.640 --> 0:37:01.719 here with me after practice. Reagan upshaw name that y'all 0:37:01.800 --> 0:37:04.840 might remember, might not remember, d Lineman. Reagan stands up 0:37:04.880 --> 0:37:07.520 and was like, yeah, anybody got a problem with this 0:37:07.719 --> 0:37:09.960 right here we're trying to build. Stay out here and 0:37:10.040 --> 0:37:12.279 let's talk about it. And then from there it start 0:37:12.360 --> 0:37:15.359 to filter through guys, all right. And it just didn't 0:37:15.400 --> 0:37:19.000 go from like me to this guy. It went through groups, okay, 0:37:19.320 --> 0:37:22.799 and then the accountability amongst ourselves became to like, hey, look, 0:37:23.320 --> 0:37:26.440 I'm not trying to go home in January first, all right, 0:37:26.960 --> 0:37:28.880 I don't want to see that. So what do we 0:37:29.040 --> 0:37:32.200 have to do amongst ourselves to change this culture? Whether 0:37:32.239 --> 0:37:34.920 it be just keep talking about it or put the 0:37:35.000 --> 0:37:37.200 work in to do it. And we eventually were able 0:37:37.239 --> 0:37:39.520 to do both. And so I say that to say, 0:37:39.920 --> 0:37:43.160 you know, like granted, I had come from just fresh 0:37:43.239 --> 0:37:45.600 out the Super Bowl, but at the same time, like 0:37:46.040 --> 0:37:49.000 I wasn't part of no big program, We hadn't had 0:37:49.040 --> 0:37:50.920 all these years of winning or anything else like that. 0:37:51.280 --> 0:37:54.520 It was just the spirit that I had about me 0:37:54.880 --> 0:37:56.480 as that pit. We went six and five every year? 0:37:56.520 --> 0:37:57.920 Did I want to go six and five every year? 0:37:58.000 --> 0:37:58.080 Now? 0:37:58.160 --> 0:38:00.920 But it's what happened. But was was I not in 0:38:01.040 --> 0:38:04.719 a champion mindset? Had I not been raised by a 0:38:04.840 --> 0:38:07.560 dude who has played at the highest level and seeing 0:38:07.920 --> 0:38:10.560 certain things, you know what I'm saying. So like it 0:38:10.760 --> 0:38:14.080 was it's just a part of you as a player. 0:38:14.120 --> 0:38:16.080 And you know, like I know, when you're out here 0:38:16.360 --> 0:38:19.080 coming from where we came from, Lake Brown Drive pick 0:38:19.239 --> 0:38:21.800 not getting drafted at all, Everything that you do is 0:38:21.840 --> 0:38:25.520 a fight daily to get better. Everything you got something 0:38:25.560 --> 0:38:29.000 to prove every time you walk in the building. Come on, man, 0:38:29.600 --> 0:38:31.839 and so like, even in this building, I don't care 0:38:31.880 --> 0:38:34.680 how many stars out here wouldn't been through here. These 0:38:34.840 --> 0:38:37.319 men got an obligation to get better every time they 0:38:37.360 --> 0:38:39.640 step foot in this building. Yeah, And. 0:38:41.120 --> 0:38:46.040 You're absolutely right. And you come from and are cut 0:38:46.120 --> 0:38:52.240 from an entirely different cloth than what the modern players 0:38:52.280 --> 0:38:56.840 cut from. You have some that are cut from that cloth, 0:38:58.080 --> 0:39:03.000 but overall, and I'll leave his name out of this, 0:39:05.080 --> 0:39:07.759 But when the Cowboys came back from training camp and 0:39:07.800 --> 0:39:12.799 they had their training camp practices here, Okay, I'm down 0:39:12.840 --> 0:39:16.600 on the sideline and I'm watching practices. This particular player 0:39:17.120 --> 0:39:20.879 is not a star, not even close to being a star, 0:39:22.520 --> 0:39:28.719 not even close. And he's out and he's hurt. And 0:39:28.800 --> 0:39:34.080 as practice is literally going on, not not stretching, not 0:39:35.280 --> 0:39:39.760 you know, just a little stuff before practice is literally 0:39:39.840 --> 0:39:45.080 in the full swing of things, he's holding up the camera. 0:39:45.840 --> 0:39:49.640 He grabs a camera from another one of the videographers, 0:39:50.480 --> 0:39:54.840 and while practice is going on, he's doing that, and 0:39:54.920 --> 0:40:00.400 there was nobody. There was nobody that was like, hey, bro, 0:40:01.400 --> 0:40:04.480 what are you doing. There wasn't a coach, there wasn't 0:40:04.480 --> 0:40:07.719 a veteran player. And now this particular play, he's not 0:40:07.840 --> 0:40:14.040 a star, he's a rotational piece, special teamer at best, 0:40:14.920 --> 0:40:17.920 and he's hurt. And instead of him being in his 0:40:18.160 --> 0:40:22.440 coach's side pocket learning to what's going on so that 0:40:22.560 --> 0:40:24.480 he's ready to go when it's time to. 0:40:24.520 --> 0:40:28.040 Go, he thought that was OK. 0:40:28.480 --> 0:40:33.200 And guess what, a very high official in the Cowboys 0:40:33.320 --> 0:40:37.600 organization was standing right there on the sideline and he 0:40:38.400 --> 0:40:42.200 never said a word. And so this is what you're 0:40:42.360 --> 0:40:45.200 asking for, is that you're asking for a level of 0:40:45.360 --> 0:40:50.200 mentality that has not been developed here because the guy 0:40:50.920 --> 0:40:54.480 who is a special teamer and a backup to the 0:40:54.640 --> 0:40:59.160 backup at best, thinks that it's okay to do certain 0:40:59.239 --> 0:41:00.960 things and know one is here to check them. 0:41:01.560 --> 0:41:02.320 I remember this. 0:41:02.560 --> 0:41:02.840 This, this. 0:41:03.160 --> 0:41:06.759 That mentality leads me to a time when the only 0:41:06.880 --> 0:41:10.319 time the Cowboys got pulled off Sunday night football game 0:41:10.360 --> 0:41:13.440 got flexed and and then they went to play at 0:41:13.520 --> 0:41:16.160 one o'clock. New in here but you know it's one 0:41:16.200 --> 0:41:19.600 o'clock came and they asked Jalen Smith, you know your 0:41:19.680 --> 0:41:22.879 thoughts about you know, concern embarrassing? He said, hey, man, 0:41:24.560 --> 0:41:29.520 owner ain't tripping, We ain't tripping, got it? 0:41:30.080 --> 0:41:34.600 Okay? You cool playing at one o'clock with everybody everybody 0:41:34.640 --> 0:41:41.879 else and right there, hey, he just told you Jerry cool, 0:41:42.280 --> 0:41:47.320 we cool. No, no Sunday night game. Get home. I 0:41:47.400 --> 0:41:49.680 get home to night and go can't get it. It's 0:41:49.680 --> 0:41:51.120 something like okay, okay. 0:41:51.640 --> 0:41:54.879 By the way, you guys, thoughts about Draymond Green called 0:41:54.920 --> 0:41:55.759 dak Press got a bone. 0:42:01.800 --> 0:42:03.279 I'm not wasting that, you know? 0:42:03.920 --> 0:42:04.400 For me? 0:42:05.160 --> 0:42:07.520 When when when I when I saw it, and and 0:42:07.800 --> 0:42:09.680 and then the first thing that popped into my head 0:42:09.840 --> 0:42:12.920 was his Michigan State highlights of him trying to play football. 0:42:13.480 --> 0:42:15.360 All right? That was that was the first thing that 0:42:15.440 --> 0:42:17.640 popped into my head. But then the second thing that 0:42:17.680 --> 0:42:20.040 popped into my head is that Draymond Green actually plays 0:42:20.080 --> 0:42:23.120 basketball just like the average football player. Does. You know 0:42:23.160 --> 0:42:25.520 what I'm saying, as far as like Jesse got true 0:42:25.560 --> 0:42:27.839 basketball skills, but most of us gonna get out there 0:42:28.120 --> 0:42:31.839 and play like Draymond dude, like kicking people, flailing all 0:42:31.920 --> 0:42:32.520 over the place. 0:42:35.400 --> 0:42:36.000 Horn school. 0:42:36.200 --> 0:42:39.359 But but you know, it just goes I should think 0:42:39.400 --> 0:42:42.680 his lucky stars every single whatever god he believes. 0:42:42.760 --> 0:42:45.680 Because role players are not You can't you really can't 0:42:45.719 --> 0:42:47.080 be a role player in the NFL. 0:42:47.760 --> 0:42:50.719 Marcus Spears said this, it's a bit rich coming from 0:42:50.800 --> 0:42:53.640 Draymond Green, who's played with arguably a top five the 0:42:54.120 --> 0:42:55.839 top five player to ever play in the NBA. 0:42:55.960 --> 0:42:58.480 Come out and say that like he's been the catalysts. 0:42:58.560 --> 0:43:03.120 Yeah, I don't even yeah, because come on, like Dremond, 0:43:03.120 --> 0:43:04.800 you got a chance to play next to the arguably 0:43:04.840 --> 0:43:07.800 the greatest shooter to ever pick up a basketball. You 0:43:07.880 --> 0:43:11.759 played with Kevin Durant, you play with Clay when he 0:43:11.880 --> 0:43:14.200 was in his prime. Dog, you just you got to 0:43:14.280 --> 0:43:17.680 pass the ball, Relax. So I mean, there's certain things 0:43:17.719 --> 0:43:18.800 you shouldn't even really. 0:43:18.960 --> 0:43:21.560 I think it's a gang of gang of football players 0:43:21.680 --> 0:43:23.320 right now. They could go shut him down on the 0:43:23.360 --> 0:43:26.840 basketball court at any time if they wanted to. I 0:43:26.880 --> 0:43:29.920 don't think that he's as skilled like that to honestly 0:43:30.080 --> 0:43:33.160 be like, you know, to be running his mouth like that. 0:43:33.800 --> 0:43:34.080 All right. 0:43:34.080 --> 0:43:36.600 See, you guys are professional former professional players in the 0:43:36.680 --> 0:43:40.440 media now. So so let me ask you this, when 0:43:40.520 --> 0:43:45.440 did it get to the point in time where athletes 0:43:45.520 --> 0:43:50.160 who played feel the need to just insult to another 0:43:50.400 --> 0:43:53.400 level of other professional athletes in different sports? 0:43:53.800 --> 0:43:56.680 They got safe out here for several years social media. 0:43:56.840 --> 0:43:59.279 It then used to be this safe. You used to 0:43:59.320 --> 0:44:02.839 can just run your mouth with no consequences, But now 0:44:02.920 --> 0:44:04.920 it's it's it's pretty safe out here for a lot 0:44:04.960 --> 0:44:07.520 of dudes, you know what I'm saying. And so that 0:44:07.719 --> 0:44:09.359 being said, you know, like I don't know how many 0:44:09.400 --> 0:44:12.160 times Draymon and and that gonna be in the same place. 0:44:12.200 --> 0:44:13.960 But I don't know if Dak is that guy to 0:44:14.040 --> 0:44:16.439 actually do that anyway, But I played with some dudes 0:44:16.480 --> 0:44:18.960 that that wouldn't have to say nothing here. 0:44:19.080 --> 0:44:24.560 The thing about Draymond knows who and what he knows 0:44:24.560 --> 0:44:26.799 who to do that to. He know who to say 0:44:26.840 --> 0:44:32.120 that to. Draymond wouldn't have said that in Charles Oakley Prime. 0:44:32.640 --> 0:44:34.800 You see what I'm saying. Draymond wouldn't have said that 0:44:34.960 --> 0:44:36.160 in Dale Davis's time. 0:44:36.239 --> 0:44:37.840 He ain't gonna say that about oh now. 0:44:37.960 --> 0:44:41.560 Like like you you watched the mentality of who and 0:44:41.760 --> 0:44:44.440 even when Draymond is wolfing in the court like the 0:44:44.480 --> 0:44:49.040 guy he socked it correct, like you know what I'm saying, 0:44:49.200 --> 0:44:52.120 like you know who to do like that is the 0:44:52.239 --> 0:44:55.680 definition of a bully. Like that is the legitimate definition 0:44:55.800 --> 0:44:59.040 of a buddy bully. He knows exactly who to pick 0:44:59.160 --> 0:45:01.919 fights with and to mess with European dudes on the court. 0:45:02.080 --> 0:45:03.239 Yeah, got it. 0:45:03.560 --> 0:45:07.320 And once again, I'm gonna go back to his football highlights. 0:45:07.560 --> 0:45:10.320 That's out there for everybody to see. All right, we 0:45:10.520 --> 0:45:12.520 saw it. You know what it is too. 0:45:12.719 --> 0:45:14.719 I ain't see Dreamond saying he won't do that to 0:45:14.719 --> 0:45:17.360 you dollars hastling. He wouldn't do He would have did 0:45:17.400 --> 0:45:18.000 that to z Bo. 0:45:18.960 --> 0:45:20.960 Hey, what's what's my man's name in the NBA? That 0:45:21.080 --> 0:45:23.520 is the UFC fighter and everything else like that. 0:45:24.400 --> 0:45:26.319 He's a he's a backup on the Indiana pace. 0:45:26.440 --> 0:45:27.359 Yeah, he don't do that to him. 0:45:27.360 --> 0:45:28.560 Ain't nobody talking. He won't do that. 0:45:29.800 --> 0:45:32.040 No, no, he know, young brothers coming out the stands. 0:45:32.360 --> 0:45:34.960 Yokis might not do nothing but them brothers for show 0:45:35.120 --> 0:45:37.920 coming out of the student and me the min the 0:45:38.000 --> 0:45:38.440 alley way. 0:45:38.680 --> 0:45:41.320 All right, fun show, fun show, our final show of 0:45:41.480 --> 0:45:45.919 the week and next week come off. So Jesse, you're 0:45:46.000 --> 0:45:47.360 you'll be sitting in the captain here here you go, 0:45:48.000 --> 0:45:49.920 have fun fun. No, these guys are great man. 0:45:50.160 --> 0:45:52.640 Think about your vegas man, have a good time. 0:45:53.160 --> 0:45:53.520 Yo for me. 0:45:53.600 --> 0:45:54.120 You know what I'm saying. 0:45:54.160 --> 0:45:57.239 Put twenty on the yo. We can't on the yo. 0:45:57.360 --> 0:45:58.359 You can put twenty on the yo. 0:45:58.440 --> 0:45:59.000 You know you can. 0:45:59.200 --> 0:46:01.279 You know it's crap. Now you can go to the 0:46:01.320 --> 0:46:01.839 craft table. 0:46:01.880 --> 0:46:03.719 Now I know that for a fact. You can put 0:46:03.719 --> 0:46:05.759 twenty on the yo for your boy. All Right, I 0:46:05.800 --> 0:46:09.719 guess can't go to sports book, but you could throw 0:46:09.760 --> 0:46:13.280 twenty on the yo for your boy. I'm just avoid everything, 0:46:14.600 --> 0:46:17.120 got Jesse. Holly Anthony Door said for Chrispy and Josh, 0:46:17.160 --> 0:46:18.920 everbody's part of the new Scruggs, we'll talk to you. 0:46:19.520 --> 0:46:20.799 Well, they'll talk to you next week. 0:46:22.120 --> 0:46:25.080 This has been a production of Dallascowboys dot Com and 0:46:25.280 --> 0:46:27.080 the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.