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Speaker 4: So all right, now that you've had an opportunity to
Speaker 4: digest it, I'll start with you, Anthony door scept your thoughts.
Speaker 3: On Quinn Williams being here with the Cowboys.
Speaker 4: A difference making football player definitely a need in this building.
Speaker 2: And it couldn't It didn't have to just be Quinn Williams.
Speaker 2: It just needed to be a difference maker on defense.
Speaker 2: But my whole thing is now with this is like
Speaker 2: what actually is going to be salvaged with the rest
Speaker 2: of the season. Now, it's a good thing that he's
Speaker 2: still in the contract with He has like three years
Speaker 2: left on his deal, so it's not a temporary thing here.
Speaker 2: He's actually going to be here. But looking at it,
Speaker 2: I'm just looking at the structure of it, where what
Speaker 2: are they three five and one at this point. Sure,
Speaker 2: you know, so I don't know mathematically, you know, and
Speaker 2: and still being second in the division, fortunately for them
Speaker 2: with this division being so weak, but mathematically, I don't
Speaker 2: know what that's actually going to be able to do
Speaker 2: as far as like getting through the playoffs and getting
Speaker 2: into the playoffs and everything else like that. Hopefully he
Speaker 2: comes in it has that impact that you talk about,
Speaker 2: but you know, it was definitely in need here, but
Speaker 2: it just seems like it's too late. You give up
Speaker 2: a first round pick and the second round pick, you
Speaker 2: still don't have a pass rush when you have Michaeh
Speaker 2: Parsons in here. I think you still might have had
Speaker 2: a first round pick. You probably could have kept Micah
Speaker 2: here and still gone out and get Quinning. You might
Speaker 2: not have been able to pay both of them, but
Speaker 2: there was a possibility for something like that to happen.
Speaker 2: And once again we're still talking about no pass rush.
Speaker 2: We got a great run stopper, but I read coming
Speaker 2: in here outside in the hallway that he's like the
Speaker 2: ranked the last d tackle when it comes to pass rush,
Speaker 2: where he's number one when it comes to run.
Speaker 3: Un stuff, run stuff, tied at fourteen.
Speaker 4: All right, So picking up just on what you said there,
Speaker 4: and here's a challenge for where the Cowboys are just
Speaker 4: looking in terms of losses, because a lot of the
Speaker 4: losses have.
Speaker 3: Been right here in the NFC.
Speaker 4: So you lost to the Eagles, NFC, You lost to
Speaker 4: the Bears NFC. You lost of the Packers NFCI. I'm sorry, yeah,
Speaker 4: you're tied, tied, Todd, you tied the Packers, thank you.
Speaker 4: You lost to the Commander, I mean the Carolina Panthers.
Speaker 4: Carolina Panthers. You beat the Commanders, and then you lost
Speaker 4: to Arizona. So some teams that could be right there
Speaker 4: when you're talking in terms of those playoff matches, you've
Speaker 4: lost to them and they really don't have much, you know,
Speaker 4: leeway along the way with the rest of the.
Speaker 3: Schedule, which is after the bye week.
Speaker 4: Raiders, Eagles, Chiefs, Lions, Vikings, Chargers, Commanders, Giants. All right, Jesse,
Speaker 4: you give me your thoughts on Quinn Williams. That's the
Speaker 4: big trade, the big the big Cahounan.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 5: The trade itself was a phenomenal trade. I think this
Speaker 5: is one of the guys that we've been chasing since
Speaker 5: Jay Ratliffe in my opinion, you haven't had a physical
Speaker 5: guy in the middle of this defense, uh since Jay Ratliff,
Speaker 5: And some will say, look, you know, Leroy Glover, you
Speaker 5: they're going, you know, back to that. This was we
Speaker 5: had to get now for tomorrow. I don't think this
Speaker 5: season is salvagable, right, but you go when you get
Speaker 5: a player that, now you can see him in this
Speaker 5: unit for the second half of the season, and.
Speaker 3: What a good.
Speaker 5: GM would do and say, Okay, we have him, Let's
Speaker 5: see how he looks with these guys, and now how
Speaker 5: do we build around it?
Speaker 2: Gotcha?
Speaker 5: How do we start building it around it? Because look
Speaker 5: across the league at the good defenses in this league,
Speaker 5: you need to have A players, not eight, but eight
Speaker 5: A plus players, and then you surround them with a
Speaker 5: couple of bees over here, a couple of seeds over here,
Speaker 5: you know what I mean. Maybe high the f if
Speaker 5: he's over there somewhere. But but the better part of
Speaker 5: it is I have layers of different level players and
Speaker 5: then when I put them together, the a's make the
Speaker 5: bes go higher, the bees make the seeds go higher.
Speaker 5: And now we're flirting around it being top fourteen thirteen
Speaker 5: to twelve defense.
Speaker 4: And I know what my offense is going to be.
Speaker 4: So let me ask this question to both. Y'll start
Speaker 4: with you, Jesse is Quinn Williams now the best player
Speaker 4: on this defense, hands down, not even close with our question,
Speaker 4: not even close.
Speaker 2: Yea, it's not even argument. I think that Cloud only
Speaker 2: played his best game that he's played last week. If
Speaker 2: you watched the if you watched the video Clowney showed up,
Speaker 2: you said the ads, you made some good plays and
Speaker 2: everything else like that on defense. But when it comes
Speaker 2: to that difference maker that you talked about, this this
Speaker 2: is definitely the difference maker. He's number one on if.
Speaker 5: You're looking at elite players, like if the level is elite,
Speaker 5: he's the closest thing to the elite ceiling. And I
Speaker 5: don't think there's a lot of other jokers who are
Speaker 5: even on the same floor. So he's the closest. When
Speaker 5: you talk about position wise, I mean he's top five
Speaker 5: at that position. You look at, it's Quinnen, It's it's
Speaker 5: Sexy Dexy, it's Jones, Kansas City, Jeffrey Simmons.
Speaker 3: And it's one more that I'm missing.
Speaker 5: I can't uh an interior dude, but he's in that conversation.
Speaker 4: Right right when you when you when you when you bump,
Speaker 4: Phillips used to say, if his name make the head
Speaker 4: of the class, didn't go take long to call the
Speaker 4: role the cover right right right, He's there, Okay, he's
Speaker 4: he's on the metal state.
Speaker 3: He's right there. Okay.
Speaker 4: So if Quinn Williams is your best player, who is
Speaker 4: your second best player on defense.
Speaker 2: Right now, You're gonna have to go. Probably it's gonna
Speaker 2: be up front. It's gonna be Kenny Clark. And if
Speaker 2: it's not Kenny, if it's not going to be him,
Speaker 2: it's going to be the line the linebacker today bringing
Speaker 2: in because like right now, what we've seen on the
Speaker 2: defense side of the ball, like everybody is struggling at
Speaker 2: every position right now, you know, So.
Speaker 5: To me, right now, it's not even as a Rocco,
Speaker 5: here's a second blessed defensive player.
Speaker 4: So just all right, if you take as a Roku
Speaker 4: and you take Kenny Clark, at least you can say,
Speaker 4: if you're mad ebraflues, now I have the formations of
Speaker 4: what it could possibly be a defensive line as you
Speaker 4: go the rest of the way. That could help because
Speaker 4: because so much we saying, how can you help as
Speaker 4: a ROCU getting better as you know, a rookie. You
Speaker 4: guys know in this league, man, the toughest year you
Speaker 4: have is that first one because you don't know what
Speaker 4: you're getting into.
Speaker 2: He's I mean, like watching him on a video, he's
Speaker 2: still he's still learning. He's highly athletic, first of all,
Speaker 2: you can recognize that. And he's strong, you know, at
Speaker 2: the point of attack. But I don't think that so
Speaker 2: far that his play has equal the numbers have equal
Speaker 2: the amount of play, if what I'm saying. So like,
Speaker 2: he's made plays, but he hasn't made that many big
Speaker 2: impact plays yet.
Speaker 3: All right, So so you got that, and that's just
Speaker 3: moving forward.
Speaker 4: As I'm trying, I'm trying to be a positive in
Speaker 4: a really you look at the schedule a non positive
Speaker 4: situation here. I think this year is lost. But as
Speaker 4: you're going forward, you've got what is the plan? How
Speaker 4: do you start to use these guys? Figure it out
Speaker 4: right now, figure out the rest of the half of
Speaker 4: the year what you have so you know, going into
Speaker 4: free agency and what's left in the draft where you
Speaker 4: plug these holes to try to get yourself better next year.
Speaker 4: And it sounds as though Matt eber Flus will be
Speaker 4: back because Jerry did his radio show yesterday said he
Speaker 4: made a mistake and having three defensive coordinators over there
Speaker 4: straight years.
Speaker 5: Which by the way, wasn't totally Jerry's fault, right because
Speaker 5: and then here's why, here's why, here's why. And trust me,
Speaker 5: I'm not the one that's gonna that's gonna put the
Speaker 5: cape on for Jerry. You were losing down dan Quinn
Speaker 5: unless you made him your head coach.
Speaker 3: That was happening.
Speaker 5: He went and got a head coaching job. He didn't
Speaker 5: leave on another DC job. He went to become a
Speaker 5: head coach. So unless you were planning on flying Mike
Speaker 5: at that time, Mike Michael from Pittsburgh, dan quit was
Speaker 5: going right then when you had Zim, Zim made it
Speaker 5: very clear, I want to be a head coach. I'm
Speaker 5: not working for this kid. What do you have to do.
Speaker 5: So it wasn't as if the DC's had a choice.
Speaker 5: They had a choice, but it wasn't like Jerry. His
Speaker 5: choice was make them the head coach or lose them. Okay,
Speaker 5: so let me so that that's two of them, right, Like,
Speaker 5: So now, Matty Ebra Flew's different story.
Speaker 3: Here's where I'll counting.
Speaker 4: Okay, so Dan Quinn left, Joet Junior told me he
Speaker 4: wanted the job. He was already in the building. Yeah,
Speaker 4: he's here. He was with Q when they put in
Speaker 4: the pieces. He knew what to do, but they didn't
Speaker 4: want to give him a job.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 4: Another guy who was here in the building eight and
Speaker 4: dirty right now, he's the defensive coordinator of Seattle.
Speaker 3: I damn good team. I've got too.
Speaker 4: I think everybody's sitting there saying hmmm wow. So you
Speaker 4: had two guys with institutional knowledge of the organization and
Speaker 4: you said no. I heard some people say, well, you know,
Speaker 4: Jerry doesn't like first time coordinators.
Speaker 3: Really, I'm sorry. What was Kellen Moore? What was Jason Garrett?
Speaker 3: What was Brian Stewart? We've seen this happen before. You
Speaker 3: brought in Mike Zimmer. My issue with Adi've heard me
Speaker 3: say it on the Players hundred four.
Speaker 4: You brought in a dude who wins with big people
Speaker 4: up front, You got little people. You got a guy
Speaker 4: that you know and you like, but you're not giving
Speaker 4: him the pieces that he needs. Meanwhile, you passed on
Speaker 4: two guys who knew and understood the pieces.
Speaker 3: So Mike Country to you was just Jerry. He could
Speaker 3: have stayed in house.
Speaker 4: You look at San Francisco, Demiko Rance takes over coordinator,
Speaker 4: then he goes to become a head coach. I mean
Speaker 4: you have Salah, the Sala left, the Demico took over.
Speaker 4: I mean they just kept on fuling people who knew what.
Speaker 5: And that's how most organizations do it.
Speaker 3: Ding ding ding.
Speaker 5: Well, they said, Belichick kept bringing you played with Beltry.
Speaker 5: I mean, look look at Detroit. Try's like, we ain't
Speaker 5: gonna go to the building the next game. You up
Speaker 5: your turn. Next guy up. That's how you build a tree, right,
Speaker 5: That's how you begin to build your trees. Right, all right,
Speaker 5: next guy up?
Speaker 4: You played at Carolina. You know what it is we're
Speaker 4: teaching you. Absolutely, you played in it, You've been around it. Hey,
Speaker 4: you coach, you coaching it?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 5: So yeah, absolutely, I'm just saying for those guys, it
Speaker 5: wasn't like he pushed those the head guys like the
Speaker 5: DC's out. Now to your point, yes, he won one
Speaker 5: hundred percent. Could have went inside. Now, there may be
Speaker 5: some other things that's deeply rooted in that don't know, right,
Speaker 5: don't know. The one thing that I've kind of noticed
Speaker 5: there's been a little bit of a trend with Jerry
Speaker 5: and hired at least on the defensive side.
Speaker 3: Maybe a lot of times if he.
Speaker 5: Ain't your friend or he ain't really familiar with you,
Speaker 5: I don't think he really want to take that shot.
Speaker 5: That's that's been where and wrong or right. That's just
Speaker 5: feels like the trend that he works with. If I'm
Speaker 5: going to hire a coordinator or you know, if this
Speaker 5: head coach doesn't come in and have is the coordinator
Speaker 5: of that particular side. You know, with Wade, he was
Speaker 5: a defensive coordinator, right, so like Jason, he became an officer.
Speaker 5: If you're not like this with the Jones family or
Speaker 5: Jerry Jones in some of those instances, you get overlooked.
Speaker 3: But they didn't know Dan Quinno.
Speaker 2: It's it's hard to say, like what it is because
Speaker 2: of ads, Like you've been in the building, You've been
Speaker 2: in the building for a long time. Me watching from
Speaker 2: the outside all the time, I'm like, is the point
Speaker 2: of emphasis not on the defense at all? You know? Yeah, no,
Speaker 2: And it's clear and it has been clear for a
Speaker 2: number of years.
Speaker 5: Defense don't sell tickets.
Speaker 2: Hey, but defense wins championships.
Speaker 5: Defense don't sell teach and I understand.
Speaker 2: So, like the game has definitely changed to a high
Speaker 2: high scoring point and game and everything else like that,
Speaker 2: but you still had to have somebody out there. If
Speaker 2: you go on blow for blow, I guess you could
Speaker 2: say who gets the ball last? Whoever getting the ball last?
Speaker 2: On offense, that defense is going to have to know
Speaker 2: how to stop somebody, you know. And at this point,
Speaker 2: you know, it goes back to what I said weeks ago.
Speaker 2: I've never seen a big name linebacker in here. I've
Speaker 2: never seen the face of the defense be like some
Speaker 2: dude who is like like a London Fletcher, like like
Speaker 2: Bobby Wagner. You don't. You don't see those type of
Speaker 2: guys in the middle of this defense here.
Speaker 3: That goes back to Jimmy Johnson's philosophy.
Speaker 4: Jimmy has basically, I'm putting my putting, my picks and
Speaker 4: my money up from the front end.
Speaker 3: In the back end.
Speaker 4: That was how Jimmy did. I'll fill in the middle
Speaker 4: with guys. I mean, I think when Jimmy was here,
Speaker 4: they use a first rounder on Robert Jones out of
Speaker 4: East Carolina, but after that they really didn't. And even
Speaker 4: when they brought in Kenny Norton, they let him go.
Speaker 4: They drafted Kenny and maybe second, second or third round,
Speaker 4: but then you know, when it's trying to pay him,
Speaker 4: they let him go and he went to San Francisco
Speaker 4: and won that Super Bowl twenty nine with the forty
Speaker 4: nine ers. But but that's never been their deal in
Speaker 4: terms of paying a guy. Now, they did draft Lake
Speaker 4: Van de sh so they used on him. He's a
Speaker 4: second rounder on Sean Lee, but and unfortunately they paid Sean.
Speaker 4: Sean just stayed hurt.
Speaker 2: Both of these dudes out the league because of injuries.
Speaker 2: You know, they never they never materialized to be drafted.
Speaker 4: Bruce Carter Cruse Carter from Carolina was second, another guy
Speaker 4: who had injury. So uh with Jams Smith, David Smith,
Speaker 4: you know, another guy with injury. So so they used
Speaker 4: they've used high picks on him, not really first a
Speaker 4: lot of the times there were just some issues.
Speaker 3: But no, there's never been a hey.
Speaker 4: Man, we about to go draft junior, sayout man to
Speaker 4: come in here be a lot, but that's not that's
Speaker 4: not that.
Speaker 2: And so there's no and so like we said, this
Speaker 2: week's ago. There's no identity to this defense, and that
Speaker 2: there has not been one in years.
Speaker 3: But if you change coordinators every year, how can you
Speaker 3: get in that?
Speaker 2: Do you know what it's about the guys that are
Speaker 2: in the locker room. It goes back to that, like
Speaker 2: you could change coordinators. And I understand, like if we're
Speaker 2: building a three to four and we got to have
Speaker 2: these type of dudes and we're building structurally like big,
Speaker 2: big guys, But at the same time you're going out
Speaker 2: there and you're finding big guys that play football, you're
Speaker 2: not finding big system guys. You know, That's not what
Speaker 2: I'm looking for as as a I'm looking for somebody
Speaker 2: that if anything happens, this dude can get to the ball,
Speaker 2: he can play football, and it doesn't matter what scheme
Speaker 2: he's in.
Speaker 3: We're gonna take a break.
Speaker 4: I want to go back to what you're saying right here,
Speaker 4: Anthony Door said, because there was once a philosophy going
Speaker 4: along with what you're talking about, but they went away
Speaker 4: from it. I'll remind everybody who brought the philosophy and
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Speaker 3: Jesse Holly, have you been out there yet?
Speaker 2: Man?
Speaker 3: I have done? Okay, I'm tell you right now. Man,
Speaker 3: it's good show. Man's free. I know it fits the Holly.
Speaker 5: Jesse Holly, Yeah, yeah, you're talking about it. Talk about
Speaker 5: a philosophy. I can tell you philosophy. If it's free,
Speaker 5: it's for me exactly, all right, I fit the Jesse
Speaker 5: Holly philosophy.
Speaker 4: Former Cowboy Jesse Holly, here, I'm new. We strutch by
Speaker 4: the way, we skip before we get back to the
Speaker 4: football Carolina basketball. He was right about homeboy from Europe.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're right.
Speaker 5: Come on now, I think I think you forgot something
Speaker 5: going down there.
Speaker 3: I need it.
Speaker 5: Danguary third would be they'll be here Danuary third.
Speaker 2: Really that's North Carolina a sec right, yes, yes.
Speaker 3: What time? It's a night game? Flying back in.
Speaker 5: All right, Pete, I'll beat That's what I go get
Speaker 5: get the credictionals going past right right right right right. Yea,
Speaker 5: we setting up a nice little dinner now because you
Speaker 5: got a bunch of guys.
Speaker 3: You got Mac Tar's here by loved me back to mac.
Speaker 5: In Jiji.
Speaker 3: Well you talk about that.
Speaker 4: You ever see that that that skit that Eddie Murphy
Speaker 4: did on on Chappelle's Show, and it was it was
Speaker 4: a real life story with Eddie Murphy's truth. I mean,
Speaker 4: Charlie Murphy. I'm sorry, Charlie Mury, Charlie Murphy's real story.
Speaker 4: Let me get Rick James mac Tar should have one
Speaker 4: man where Mac Tar just sit around here and tell
Speaker 4: you stuff he's seen in the league and stuff. Well,
Speaker 4: I tell mac Tar got stories he does he does
Speaker 4: story man. Yeah, it's not the Happy Birthday to Jerry
Speaker 4: Stockhouse too, Today's birthday Stack. Okay, yeah, we got we
Speaker 4: got a nice little I'm Prittley's.
Speaker 3: In North Carolina.
Speaker 5: Man, People like joke around and they talk about like
Speaker 5: when you hear the stories of like Stack, like Stack
Speaker 5: ain't want to be he ain't wanted to be trifle with,
Speaker 5: like Stack ain't want to be trifle with, like like.
Speaker 2: Sta.
Speaker 4: I hate for Jerry that I was there covering the
Speaker 4: maps when they went to the finals and No. Six
Speaker 4: and Jerry was on that team and they were up two,
Speaker 4: they were up two oh on Miami had beat Miami
Speaker 4: two oh that season and in Game three they're up
Speaker 4: thirteen with six minutes to go and end up blowing
Speaker 4: that game and then lost four straight. I hate the
Speaker 4: stack never got a ring with the tar Heels or
Speaker 4: in the NBA, because he was definitely a player worthy
Speaker 4: of it.
Speaker 3: If Jerry Stackhouse made FeelA look good.
Speaker 2: Hey, Jerry, he was one of He was one of
Speaker 2: my He was one of my favorite players at one
Speaker 2: point in time. He was a baller, you know. And
Speaker 2: North Carolina just got I mean, y'all, y'all got hoop history.
Speaker 2: I mean, everybody's gonna think about Jordan, but I mean
Speaker 2: it's it's it's it's names to go way beyond Jordan.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. And if you're a true
Speaker 2: basketball fan, so shout out to you bro that that right,
Speaker 2: there is some history and it's a great.
Speaker 5: Dron Blank gave me flashbacks on Saturday though, Phil Real,
Speaker 5: Ralph Jerry, Phil Real just forget it against.
Speaker 4: Not five stop stop Lee five and Loan Charlotte stone
Speaker 4: Man West Charlotte's home man Jeff mcinnon. But going back
Speaker 4: Lenny Rosebluth Man back back there in the fifty seventeen
Speaker 4: to beat Wilf Chamberlain double overtime win Na's championship man.
Speaker 3: A lot of history, history, A lot of history, man,
Speaker 3: a lot of history. I love me se Carolina basketball.
Speaker 4: So all right, by the way, Jesse Holly played there
Speaker 4: playing the national championship team won all two thousand and five.
Speaker 4: Be the very very good Illinois team led by Darren Williams.
Speaker 3: That come a good team.
Speaker 4: So Anthony Dorris said, we're talking about the Cowboys, and
Speaker 4: you were talking about, you know, the kind of players
Speaker 4: and so.
Speaker 3: You know, a philosophy.
Speaker 4: When Bill Parcells got here as head coach man, he
Speaker 4: went to them and he talked about first thing he wanted.
Speaker 4: He wanted guys who were captains, guys who loved football.
Speaker 3: They didn't want troublemakers. He had guys at a team
Speaker 3: no time for that.
Speaker 9: Man.
Speaker 3: He wanted guys who was serious.
Speaker 4: And so that's where they started drafting people like Swago
Speaker 4: Marcus Spears, national champion in LSU who played for played
Speaker 4: for Nick Savan They went out there and drafted to
Speaker 4: Kevin Burnett, who was a captain at the University of Tennis.
Speaker 4: He drafted adjacent Whitt and they started drafting these kind
Speaker 4: of dudes.
Speaker 3: That fit what Bill wanted.
Speaker 4: Their football players are about that life and they were
Speaker 4: already leaders where they were at, Dudes that he ain't
Speaker 4: had to sit around here worry about. They won a
Speaker 4: bunch of knuckleheads out there, and those guys were good.
Speaker 4: He had substance, not flashed and sizzle. He wasn't drafting
Speaker 4: to Randy Gregory. Okay, Randy Gregory would have come around.
Speaker 3: Bill Parcells was here. That's what he was looking for.
Speaker 4: DeMarcus Ware, you know, Terrence Newman, who he didn't want
Speaker 4: but he ended up.
Speaker 3: You know, that was his kind of guy.
Speaker 4: Dad Wyn who was already hed he want that win,
Speaker 4: but he said, okay, this he caught that a football
Speaker 4: playing guy. They played the kind of football that he won.
Speaker 4: Parcels left. They got away from it. You don't see
Speaker 4: those kinds. You see the Randy Gregory's of the world.
Speaker 4: You see the Mazzie Smiths of the world.
Speaker 3: You know, a guy like.
Speaker 4: Mazzie Smith who was traded to New York. You have
Speaker 4: to identify that. You have to identify, dude, do you
Speaker 4: like this or not?
Speaker 3: I love it.
Speaker 5: There's one critique that I have about Jerry Jones, and
Speaker 5: sometimes when it comes to the evaluation of certain things
Speaker 5: is I get the process of group think. I understand that,
Speaker 5: but I also under like I don't need everybody's opinion.
Speaker 3: I don't Rod Marinelli, I don't prime example, Rod Marynell
Speaker 3: coaching like correct like Tristan Hill. He's like, I want
Speaker 3: Tristan Hill.
Speaker 4: So Tristan Hill was a Group five guy UCF, and
Speaker 4: his last year there they basically the coaching staff was
Speaker 4: tired of him, so he wasn't starting. It was up
Speaker 4: and down, and the coaching staff was led by Josh
Speaker 4: Heipel who's now at Tennessee.
Speaker 3: Well, if a dude is at UCF.
Speaker 4: And it's spotty and he's not playing, you're not using
Speaker 4: the second round pick on it. But what they did
Speaker 4: they decided to go ahead and go to Scott talk
Speaker 4: to Scott Frost who left the Nebraska Scott Frout. But
Speaker 4: I liked the guy man, that was all good. So
Speaker 4: you did that then Mary Nelly, Hey, I like Taco Charleton.
Speaker 4: Can he fit the scheme over TJ.
Speaker 2: Watt.
Speaker 4: And if you go out to what Parcels was doing.
Speaker 4: Parcels look at a guy like TJ. Watt and said, well,
Speaker 4: that was the Big Ten defensive player of the year.
Speaker 4: Guy been balling every year, He's been got pedigree. He
Speaker 4: come from them, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: And I think that that's the part where it's like,
Speaker 5: let your scouts do what they do best, right Like,
Speaker 5: you know, hey, coach, what type of player are you
Speaker 5: looking for? Right now? Coach? Okay, you know I write
Speaker 5: this down. Okay, he wants this guy, this guy, this guy,
Speaker 5: this guy cool.
Speaker 3: I got you.
Speaker 5: Then let Will and his staff deploy them out to
Speaker 5: go and find a guy. But when you when you
Speaker 5: start allowing everybody to have a voice in this situation,
Speaker 5: you get Taco Chalcon, you get uh, you get players
Speaker 5: that you can't, you get a Masi Smith, you get
Speaker 5: these type of collaborations. Yeah, And that's like that's the
Speaker 5: one thing at times, like as much as Jerry has
Speaker 5: this alpha mentality about certain things, and you know, I'm
Speaker 5: the GM and I'm gonna make the I don't you
Speaker 5: need a group collaboration on certain things when you play
Speaker 5: for the Raiders is mister Davis a collaborator.
Speaker 2: Ad was gonna make that call, and he didn't care
Speaker 2: who had what to say about it and who didn't
Speaker 2: like it, or if they did like it. It was
Speaker 2: gonna be he was gonna make that final call regardless.
Speaker 2: And you know, like you talk about the evaluation process here,
Speaker 2: one of the things that I've always noticed and I've
Speaker 2: always thought is like, and I've said this before, everybody's
Speaker 2: viewing through the same binoculars regardless if you're getting if
Speaker 2: you're not taking the advice from over here or taking
Speaker 2: it from over there. Like at the end of the day,
Speaker 2: it's nobody honestly saying like, I ain't seeing what you're seeing. See,
Speaker 2: And that's what needs to be said. It's been too
Speaker 2: much tiptoeing around this building and instead of beating around
Speaker 2: the bush, sometimes you gotta go straight through it. And
Speaker 2: that's one of the things that has not been done here,
Speaker 2: at least on the defensive side of the ball anyway.
Speaker 2: You know, the accountability that when it comes to like
Speaker 2: when I hear these dudes talk about you know, I
Speaker 2: was here with this coach, and I was here with
Speaker 2: that coach and this was going on and that was
Speaker 2: going well. Damn. Like when you recognize that and you
Speaker 2: part of it, you got to be part of the change.
Speaker 5: But that's the thing is that you're bringing people in
Speaker 5: here or that doesn't that don't come from a pedigree,
Speaker 5: that don't come in here, Like you're not you're not
Speaker 5: bringing Ray Lewis in here, who has spent twelve years
Speaker 5: in the Baltimore Ravens organization. I remember a couple of
Speaker 5: years ago, this might have been maybe five six years ago,
Speaker 5: tell Us Benett brother Michael Bennett. Yes, Michael Bennett came
Speaker 5: in here, and Michael Bennett was here for thirteen seconds,
Speaker 5: two seconds and was the leader because he came and
Speaker 5: it was like wait, this dude just got here, and
Speaker 5: he's like, man, what the what are y'all doing? Yeah,
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying. That was somebody who came
Speaker 5: from something and knew what it took to win it all.
Speaker 5: And when he got here, the dudes who were supposed
Speaker 5: to be your leaders here, they tucked that tail and
Speaker 5: he was telling them like man and that. But what
Speaker 5: ended up happening was.
Speaker 4: He got he was the outcast because the large majority
Speaker 4: of the group looked at.
Speaker 3: Him, like what you're doing all right?
Speaker 5: And so so that's the type of mentality that you
Speaker 5: have to get in here. And you don't have enough
Speaker 5: of those guys in here. You don't have enough of
Speaker 5: I love football dudes in here. You have enough. You
Speaker 5: have a lot of dudes in here who like football,
Speaker 5: who like what football brings. You don't have enough lovers
Speaker 5: of the game like And that's a that's a that's
Speaker 5: a very distinct difference. And I know people say, well
Speaker 5: that Prences's that's a great leader. That's not going to
Speaker 5: the other side of the defense. He worried about his
Speaker 5: side of the ball, right, Like he might say some
Speaker 5: things here and there, But there's not enough of those
Speaker 5: guys in this organization. When you're talking about the guys
Speaker 5: of those nineties teams, right that tells me. Nate tells
Speaker 5: me all the time. Like Nate was like when Charles
Speaker 5: Haley came over, he was like the say Tod Nate said, Man,
Speaker 5: I think you're a really good player, he said, but
Speaker 5: I watched you the first on field, first six game
Speaker 5: in the season, you were good. The last seven games
Speaker 5: of the season, you were trash. You know why, you fat?
Speaker 5: Slowing out of shape. He was like, we ain't gonna
Speaker 5: win if you if you are starting whatever, and you
Speaker 5: that way, we ain't gonna never win. And you and
Speaker 5: you and you and you and you and you.
Speaker 3: And now everybody started getting in the line. Right now.
Speaker 3: You had a bunch of people.
Speaker 5: Jimmy brought a bunch of people in here that loved
Speaker 5: the game of football. There's a lot of people in
Speaker 5: this world. There's not enough people on this football team,
Speaker 5: from player number one to play number fifty three.
Speaker 4: There was also fear loss when Jimmy was here. Yes,
Speaker 4: guys knew that you could get cut. Jimmy would tell you,
Speaker 4: I'm drafting your replacement. So so guys knew.
Speaker 2: What was up.
Speaker 3: In the Garrett Ears.
Speaker 4: There wasn't that people had jobs, come to camp, had
Speaker 4: a job. I remember what year, man, it was like
Speaker 4: day two they gave Romo day off, day two.
Speaker 3: What do we do? It's day two or three? Said
Speaker 3: what are we doing?
Speaker 4: And and so you just saw there was no there
Speaker 4: was no fight for jobs. It's just you know, it was.
Speaker 3: It was.
Speaker 2: It was. But it's the same culture here, and it's
Speaker 2: just different faces and different names. It's the same culture.
Speaker 4: And yeah, so guys know where they can doing end
Speaker 4: around on certain certain areas and get what they want done.
Speaker 4: But and I go back to the thing of what
Speaker 4: we're talking about. Man, there's there's a lot of style.
Speaker 3: But substance. It's a challenge.
Speaker 4: It's a challenge when we're talking about what is the
Speaker 4: substance of things and where they go what they need
Speaker 4: to do around here. But they at least have got
Speaker 4: an elite player now on defensive.
Speaker 5: And here's the thing about quinn though, right like he
Speaker 5: comes he brings elite talent. I don't know if Quinnin
Speaker 5: brings elite leadership.
Speaker 3: I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't.
Speaker 5: I don't want to question his leadership. But he's coming
Speaker 5: from the Jets organization. He's coming from a very dysfunctional organization. Right,
Speaker 5: So what you what you hope is is that he
Speaker 5: brings a level of work ethic word right like, that
Speaker 5: he brings a level of work ethic that's contagious and
Speaker 5: that he can say, hey, listen, I was considered one
Speaker 5: of the best or a part of one of the
Speaker 5: best defenses in the league because of X, Y and Z.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: But again, it becomes difficult when it's just one guy,
Speaker 5: and I got thirteen, fourteen, twenty other guys who do
Speaker 5: it the opposite way.
Speaker 2: Can cannot bring up an example of something real quick.
Speaker 4: What I want to do. Let to hold under that
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Speaker 4: these gentlemen play the National football I just saw some
Speaker 4: breaking news here Kyler Murray placed on I R with
Speaker 4: a foot injury.
Speaker 3: H hmm, that's crazy.
Speaker 5: So you can play the Cowboys. All of a sudden,
Speaker 5: they're like, you know what, you can sit out for
Speaker 5: a little bit got.
Speaker 4: It deal yea, but he get healed up, buddy, right,
Speaker 4: which which you know what, But I'm hearing a lot
Speaker 4: of talk out of some people in Arizona, stay about
Speaker 4: Tay about tider Colin. This this was I was gonna say,
Speaker 4: right there, this is the smartest thing. Okay, we talking
Speaker 4: about Hey man, we get job backed.
Speaker 3: The kid just balked.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the cowboys helped him out. But how what's the
Speaker 4: best way to not bench Kyler Murray and calls any.
Speaker 3: It Maybe you need to get healed. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 3: trying to rush you. Man, you got this contract, long career, and.
Speaker 5: Collin sits like color is he is emotionally fragile, Like
Speaker 5: he's a fragile dude, Like mentally you start to you know,
Speaker 5: he's like, don't yell.
Speaker 9: Let me.
Speaker 5: I can't take you yell. And I can't take being
Speaker 5: you know, I always lie when they had the gaming
Speaker 5: clause in his contract and then no we didn't have
Speaker 5: Yes you did, yes, you did that.
Speaker 3: That didn't just you didn't.
Speaker 2: Oops.
Speaker 3: That ain't the oops.
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, no, you're right, you're right, right, But but
Speaker 4: so so it's this very interesting guy after you know,
Speaker 4: Bressett looked like, you know, black Tom Brady here at
Speaker 4: ATC standing say, man, you and if the head coach
Speaker 4: you out again, you're you're you're you're against it.
Speaker 3: No, no, no, you lost four straight, you lost the
Speaker 3: home to Tennessee.
Speaker 4: You look bad in and find you one hundred grand,
Speaker 4: you up against you trying to win and rally your troops.
Speaker 4: And so I wouldn't be going to Kyler Murray found him.
Speaker 4: I trust Jacoby Brissett. My tidend looks like he's lethal
Speaker 4: that because Brisett's finding the ball now, Marvin Harrison's out
Speaker 4: here balling.
Speaker 3: I know it's the Cowboys. They make it my career.
Speaker 3: David Hey see if he can do it again.
Speaker 4: But yeah, putting Kyler, that's no coincidence. Ain't no coincidence
Speaker 4: right there, because you guys both played in the league.
Speaker 3: If you hurt and ain't need you, you're good. You're good.
Speaker 2: Tell clear clearly.
Speaker 5: The drugs they got good drugs and drugs in them
Speaker 5: training rules.
Speaker 3: They want you out there, Yeah, they want you out there.
Speaker 3: They put you out there.
Speaker 4: So okay, Anthony Dorse said you had a had you're
Speaker 4: ready to lay it on us here right before with break.
Speaker 3: So I want to make sure you had time to
Speaker 3: breathe and get it out there.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, so before we went to break it was
Speaker 2: the whole thing about building teams and having guys to say,
Speaker 2: come from some type of winning program and being able
Speaker 2: to I guess you could say kickstart your program too
Speaker 2: as well if they coming to the Cowboys from a
Speaker 2: super Bowl team. And you always see at the end
Speaker 2: of the year with whoever goes to Super Bowl, whether
Speaker 2: win or lose, those teams get dismantled because everybody wants
Speaker 2: a little piece of whatever that that that that culture
Speaker 2: was that they had to win and get to the
Speaker 2: get to the super Bowl. Now being a part of
Speaker 2: being in Tennessee, all right, and I could I could
Speaker 2: truly tell you that that like my first three years there,
Speaker 2: we were basically an average team. Okay, we went a
Speaker 2: and eight if we did, you know, maybe nine, but
Speaker 2: we never got passed, never got to the playoffs, and
Speaker 2: there was never anything going on like that. All right,
Speaker 2: So we build this team and of course we got
Speaker 2: a bunch of dudes on the team that Jesse talks
Speaker 2: about that love to play football, all right, But at
Speaker 2: the same time we were a highly competitive team that
Speaker 2: was when the teams that like, I don't know if
Speaker 2: it probably never went on here, but dudes were getting
Speaker 2: in fights in individual meeting rooms. All right, Yeah, that's
Speaker 2: how competitive it was. Okay. But it was one of
Speaker 2: those things where you had so many vets on the
Speaker 2: team that they wasn't afraid to call nobody out like
Speaker 2: Charles Haley, you know, and let you know like, hey,
Speaker 2: this is I ain't asking this from you because I
Speaker 2: want this from you. This is what we need from
Speaker 2: you for us to be able to be successful and win. Okay,
Speaker 2: So going to the Raiders, right, Raiders hadn't been to
Speaker 2: the Super Bowl playoffs and now don't know how many
Speaker 2: years before I got there, But I'm coming off the
Speaker 2: Super Bowl and that's all I know, and that's all
Speaker 2: I'm thinking about, right, So get out there many camps
Speaker 2: and everything else like that, and I start preaching it.
Speaker 2: Then hey, look, let's start getting this in our heads
Speaker 2: right now about trying to get to the postseason and
Speaker 2: da da da da. And in the beginning, it was
Speaker 2: dudes out there sucking at like they didn't want to hear, right, right,
Speaker 2: and so like, but every day I stayed with it. Okay,
Speaker 2: and so finally one day somebody did something and I
Speaker 2: was like, look, man, whoever doing that? Just stay out
Speaker 2: here with me after practice. Reagan upshaw name that y'all
Speaker 2: might remember, might not remember, d Lineman. Reagan stands up
Speaker 2: and was like, yeah, anybody got a problem with this
Speaker 2: right here we're trying to build. Stay out here and
Speaker 2: let's talk about it. And then from there it start
Speaker 2: to filter through guys, all right. And it just didn't
Speaker 2: go from like me to this guy. It went through groups, okay,
Speaker 2: and then the accountability amongst ourselves became to like, hey, look,
Speaker 2: I'm not trying to go home in January first, all right,
Speaker 2: I don't want to see that. So what do we
Speaker 2: have to do amongst ourselves to change this culture? Whether
Speaker 2: it be just keep talking about it or put the
Speaker 2: work in to do it. And we eventually were able
Speaker 2: to do both. And so I say that to say,
Speaker 2: you know, like granted, I had come from just fresh
Speaker 2: out the Super Bowl, but at the same time, like
Speaker 2: I wasn't part of no big program, We hadn't had
Speaker 2: all these years of winning or anything else like that.
Speaker 2: It was just the spirit that I had about me
Speaker 2: as that pit. We went six and five every year?
Speaker 2: Did I want to go six and five every year?
Speaker 9: Now?
Speaker 2: But it's what happened. But was was I not in
Speaker 2: a champion mindset? Had I not been raised by a
Speaker 2: dude who has played at the highest level and seeing
Speaker 2: certain things, you know what I'm saying. So like it
Speaker 2: was it's just a part of you as a player.
Speaker 2: And you know, like I know, when you're out here
Speaker 2: coming from where we came from, Lake Brown Drive pick
Speaker 2: not getting drafted at all, Everything that you do is
Speaker 2: a fight daily to get better. Everything you got something
Speaker 2: to prove every time you walk in the building. Come on, man,
Speaker 2: and so like, even in this building, I don't care
Speaker 2: how many stars out here wouldn't been through here. These
Speaker 2: men got an obligation to get better every time they
Speaker 2: step foot in this building. Yeah, And.
Speaker 5: You're absolutely right. And you come from and are cut
Speaker 5: from an entirely different cloth than what the modern players
Speaker 5: cut from. You have some that are cut from that cloth,
Speaker 5: but overall, and I'll leave his name out of this,
Speaker 5: But when the Cowboys came back from training camp and
Speaker 5: they had their training camp practices here, Okay, I'm down
Speaker 5: on the sideline and I'm watching practices. This particular player
Speaker 5: is not a star, not even close to being a star,
Speaker 5: not even close. And he's out and he's hurt. And
Speaker 5: as practice is literally going on, not not stretching, not
Speaker 5: you know, just a little stuff before practice is literally
Speaker 5: in the full swing of things, he's holding up the camera.
Speaker 5: He grabs a camera from another one of the videographers,
Speaker 5: and while practice is going on, he's doing that, and
Speaker 5: there was nobody. There was nobody that was like, hey, bro,
Speaker 5: what are you doing. There wasn't a coach, there wasn't
Speaker 5: a veteran player. And now this particular play, he's not
Speaker 5: a star, he's a rotational piece, special teamer at best,
Speaker 5: and he's hurt. And instead of him being in his
Speaker 5: coach's side pocket learning to what's going on so that
Speaker 5: he's ready to go when it's time to.
Speaker 3: Go, he thought that was OK.
Speaker 5: And guess what, a very high official in the Cowboys
Speaker 5: organization was standing right there on the sideline and he
Speaker 5: never said a word. And so this is what you're
Speaker 5: asking for, is that you're asking for a level of
Speaker 5: mentality that has not been developed here because the guy
Speaker 5: who is a special teamer and a backup to the
Speaker 5: backup at best, thinks that it's okay to do certain
Speaker 5: things and know one is here to check them.
Speaker 3: I remember this.
Speaker 9: This, this.
Speaker 4: That mentality leads me to a time when the only
Speaker 4: time the Cowboys got pulled off Sunday night football game
Speaker 4: got flexed and and then they went to play at
Speaker 4: one o'clock. New in here but you know it's one
Speaker 4: o'clock came and they asked Jalen Smith, you know your
Speaker 4: thoughts about you know, concern embarrassing? He said, hey, man,
Speaker 4: owner ain't tripping, We ain't tripping, got it?
Speaker 3: Okay? You cool playing at one o'clock with everybody everybody
Speaker 3: else and right there, hey, he just told you Jerry cool,
Speaker 3: we cool. No, no Sunday night game. Get home. I
Speaker 3: get home to night and go can't get it. It's
Speaker 3: something like okay, okay.
Speaker 4: By the way, you guys, thoughts about Draymond Green called
Speaker 4: dak Press got a bone.
Speaker 3: I'm not wasting that, you know?
Speaker 9: For me?
Speaker 2: When when when I when I saw it, and and
Speaker 2: and then the first thing that popped into my head
Speaker 2: was his Michigan State highlights of him trying to play football.
Speaker 2: All right? That was that was the first thing that
Speaker 2: popped into my head. But then the second thing that
Speaker 2: popped into my head is that Draymond Green actually plays
Speaker 2: basketball just like the average football player. Does. You know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, as far as like Jesse got true
Speaker 2: basketball skills, but most of us gonna get out there
Speaker 2: and play like Draymond dude, like kicking people, flailing all
Speaker 2: over the place.
Speaker 3: Horn school.
Speaker 5: But but you know, it just goes I should think
Speaker 5: his lucky stars every single whatever god he believes.
Speaker 2: Because role players are not You can't you really can't
Speaker 2: be a role player in the NFL.
Speaker 4: Marcus Spears said this, it's a bit rich coming from
Speaker 4: Draymond Green, who's played with arguably a top five the
Speaker 4: top five player to ever play in the NBA.
Speaker 3: Come out and say that like he's been the catalysts.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't even yeah, because come on, like Dremond,
Speaker 5: you got a chance to play next to the arguably
Speaker 5: the greatest shooter to ever pick up a basketball. You
Speaker 5: played with Kevin Durant, you play with Clay when he
Speaker 5: was in his prime. Dog, you just you got to
Speaker 5: pass the ball, Relax. So I mean, there's certain things
Speaker 5: you shouldn't even really.
Speaker 2: I think it's a gang of gang of football players
Speaker 2: right now. They could go shut him down on the
Speaker 2: basketball court at any time if they wanted to. I
Speaker 2: don't think that he's as skilled like that to honestly
Speaker 2: be like, you know, to be running his mouth like that.
Speaker 9: All right.
Speaker 4: See, you guys are professional former professional players in the
Speaker 4: media now. So so let me ask you this, when
Speaker 4: did it get to the point in time where athletes
Speaker 4: who played feel the need to just insult to another
Speaker 4: level of other professional athletes in different sports?
Speaker 2: They got safe out here for several years social media.
Speaker 2: It then used to be this safe. You used to
Speaker 2: can just run your mouth with no consequences, But now
Speaker 2: it's it's it's pretty safe out here for a lot
Speaker 2: of dudes, you know what I'm saying. And so that
Speaker 2: being said, you know, like I don't know how many
Speaker 2: times Draymon and and that gonna be in the same place.
Speaker 2: But I don't know if Dak is that guy to
Speaker 2: actually do that anyway, But I played with some dudes
Speaker 2: that that wouldn't have to say nothing here.
Speaker 5: The thing about Draymond knows who and what he knows
Speaker 5: who to do that to. He know who to say
Speaker 5: that to. Draymond wouldn't have said that in Charles Oakley Prime.
Speaker 5: You see what I'm saying. Draymond wouldn't have said that
Speaker 5: in Dale Davis's time.
Speaker 2: He ain't gonna say that about oh now.
Speaker 5: Like like you you watched the mentality of who and
Speaker 5: even when Draymond is wolfing in the court like the
Speaker 5: guy he socked it correct, like you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 5: like you know who to do like that is the
Speaker 5: definition of a bully. Like that is the legitimate definition
Speaker 5: of a buddy bully. He knows exactly who to pick
Speaker 5: fights with and to mess with European dudes on the court.
Speaker 3: Yeah, got it.
Speaker 2: And once again, I'm gonna go back to his football highlights.
Speaker 2: That's out there for everybody to see. All right, we
Speaker 2: saw it. You know what it is too.
Speaker 5: I ain't see Dreamond saying he won't do that to
Speaker 5: you dollars hastling. He wouldn't do He would have did
Speaker 5: that to z Bo.
Speaker 2: Hey, what's what's my man's name in the NBA? That
Speaker 2: is the UFC fighter and everything else like that.
Speaker 5: He's a he's a backup on the Indiana pace.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he don't do that to him.
Speaker 2: Ain't nobody talking. He won't do that.
Speaker 3: No, no, he know, young brothers coming out the stands.
Speaker 5: Yokis might not do nothing but them brothers for show
Speaker 5: coming out of the student and me the min the
Speaker 5: alley way.
Speaker 4: All right, fun show, fun show, our final show of
Speaker 4: the week and next week come off. So Jesse, you're
Speaker 4: you'll be sitting in the captain here here you go,
Speaker 4: have fun fun. No, these guys are great man.
Speaker 3: Think about your vegas man, have a good time.
Speaker 2: Yo for me.
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Put twenty on the yo. We can't on the yo.
Speaker 3: You can put twenty on the yo.
Speaker 2: You know you can.
Speaker 3: You know it's crap. Now you can go to the
Speaker 3: craft table.
Speaker 4: Now I know that for a fact. You can put
Speaker 4: twenty on the yo for your boy. All Right, I
Speaker 4: guess can't go to sports book, but you could throw
Speaker 4: twenty on the yo for your boy. I'm just avoid everything,
Speaker 4: got Jesse. Holly Anthony Door said for Chrispy and Josh,
Speaker 4: everbody's part of the new Scruggs, we'll talk to you.
Speaker 3: Well, they'll talk to you next week.
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