WEBVTT - Salty Dogs Podcast with Anthony Nelson 0:00:00.840 --> 0:00:03.040 What do you call two guys that were there when 0:00:03.120 --> 0:00:06.040 this happened? Back to return at Spurlock, Michael Spurlock at 0:00:06.080 --> 0:00:08.239 the chin, he's still the twenty, he's the twenty five 0:00:08.680 --> 0:00:12.639 thirty to the party yardline history, fifty forty to the 0:00:12.720 --> 0:00:16.840 thirty yards Michael Rock, Michael Rock, Michael Run touched out, tafo, 0:00:17.560 --> 0:00:20.880 there you go, and then sixty two yard for your 0:00:20.920 --> 0:00:30.360 goal attempts. It is God, God, God, God box the Eagles, 0:00:30.440 --> 0:00:35.479 who can forget again? I'm looking again already Derek Brocks 0:00:35.479 --> 0:00:39.360 already touchdown tam a day, Derek Brooks, the lost Pariot 0:00:39.360 --> 0:00:42.800 player here the national football like there it is, then 0:00:42.880 --> 0:00:45.680 Daggers in where you're gonna win the Super Bowl. We 0:00:45.760 --> 0:00:49.360 call them the Salty Dogs. Hello again out there, all 0:00:49.440 --> 0:00:52.839 you podcast friends, Welcome again to another edition of the 0:00:52.920 --> 0:00:56.360 Salty Dogs. We're glad you joined us. Yes, yeah, I'm 0:00:56.600 --> 0:00:58.600 very happy that you joined us. By we, I mean 0:00:59.200 --> 0:01:02.920 me Scott's and me Jeff Ryan, we are your salty Dogs. 0:01:02.920 --> 0:01:05.600 And we were just saying, uh, this one could get 0:01:05.600 --> 0:01:08.240 a little salty. Yes, but before we pretzel, Yes, but 0:01:08.400 --> 0:01:12.400 before we get started, what's your favorite shape of pretzel? 0:01:12.840 --> 0:01:15.479 Because they had pretzel rods in that press box. Yes, 0:01:15.560 --> 0:01:18.320 they were very tasty. Yeah they're they're they're classic role 0:01:18.360 --> 0:01:20.240 gold pretzel rods. It's the best way to eat a pretzel, 0:01:20.280 --> 0:01:21.840 but never put him in your pocket, And then said 0:01:23.959 --> 0:01:26.920 little helpful And what were you about to say before 0:01:27.319 --> 0:01:30.640 before we get going on this on this edition? Um, 0:01:30.840 --> 0:01:33.520 I have I have proven that I did not say 0:01:33.600 --> 0:01:38.640 you could not use coins you. I addressed it because 0:01:38.920 --> 0:01:42.160 after we did the podcast last week, I went upstairs 0:01:42.160 --> 0:01:44.920 and I started thinking about it, and I tracked it down, 0:01:44.959 --> 0:01:47.120 and I isolated the audio and sent it to you 0:01:47.200 --> 0:01:49.680 and said, there you go. You were You were a 0:01:50.040 --> 0:01:52.080 percent right the for anybody who doesn't know what he's 0:01:52.080 --> 0:01:56.600 talking about on a podcast a few weeks ago, I 0:01:56.640 --> 0:01:59.520 said that, So I said, and that somebody had told 0:01:59.520 --> 0:02:03.240 me when you got pound coins back in London they 0:02:03.240 --> 0:02:06.320 were almost useless because you like businesses wouldn't take them 0:02:06.360 --> 0:02:08.359 back in payment. And I don't remember, and I don't 0:02:08.360 --> 0:02:10.440 remember who told me that. But when we talked about 0:02:10.440 --> 0:02:13.680 it again because we got a question about it, I 0:02:13.760 --> 0:02:17.119 misremembered that it was you. Well, so I blamed you, 0:02:17.760 --> 0:02:19.680 and our questioner actually did not blame you. When I 0:02:19.720 --> 0:02:21.080 went back and read it. No, but if you go 0:02:21.120 --> 0:02:22.799 back and listen to the audio, you said, there's two 0:02:22.880 --> 0:02:24.600 of us that said you did it. I know I was. 0:02:24.720 --> 0:02:26.600 I was wrong in that regard as well, and I said, 0:02:26.639 --> 0:02:29.359 I'm proving both of you wrong. But if you had 0:02:29.360 --> 0:02:31.240 not found that audio, then we would have just gone 0:02:31.240 --> 0:02:34.399 on believing that you said that. Yeah. But what's interesting 0:02:34.560 --> 0:02:38.840 is um Um Jill, who's our social media person. Um, 0:02:39.040 --> 0:02:42.480 she came into my office and the next day she 0:02:42.560 --> 0:02:44.880 gave me to my office and said, you did not 0:02:45.120 --> 0:02:47.040 say And I go, what? And she goes on the 0:02:47.080 --> 0:02:49.040 coins you didn't say it. She goes, I was listening 0:02:49.040 --> 0:02:52.240 to the podcast coming into work today and immediately I said, 0:02:52.240 --> 0:02:54.160 he did not say that. It wasn't you. It was 0:02:54.200 --> 0:02:56.520 somebody else and I can't remember. And that stinks because 0:02:56.520 --> 0:02:59.080 I then stupidly shared that with several people, and UM 0:02:59.240 --> 0:03:01.000 looked dumb in the SS. It's not that I like 0:03:01.080 --> 0:03:02.720 to be right, but I do. You do very much 0:03:02.800 --> 0:03:04.160 like to be right. And you know, whenever you get 0:03:04.160 --> 0:03:06.720 that rare opportunity you're taking, you grab it. Yes, you 0:03:06.800 --> 0:03:09.640 in particular, I mean, um, Yeah, And the the question 0:03:09.680 --> 0:03:12.640 who wasn't named Claria? If I remember correct correctly from 0:03:12.680 --> 0:03:15.480 London was saying, yes, you can pay it that way, 0:03:15.520 --> 0:03:17.000 you just it could take a while account it out. 0:03:17.000 --> 0:03:19.640 So she was corrected. She was too, you just misinterpreted. 0:03:19.680 --> 0:03:22.920 I passed along bogus information and that wasn't that probably 0:03:22.919 --> 0:03:26.120 was probably double check. It was probably the language barrier. 0:03:28.360 --> 0:03:33.040 So anyway onto Salty Dog. Uh, well, she was of 0:03:33.160 --> 0:03:37.240 import Yeah. Uh, it's not a good week because the 0:03:37.280 --> 0:03:39.400 Bucks are two and five and and uh it's hard 0:03:39.480 --> 0:03:41.400 to see the playoffs from two and five. You know, 0:03:41.440 --> 0:03:43.360 you're looking over a mountain and you can't really see 0:03:43.400 --> 0:03:47.320 on the other side. It's not impossible. But we said, 0:03:47.400 --> 0:03:50.520 and the coaches said even before we went to Tennessee 0:03:50.520 --> 0:03:52.200 that that game was very big. And then the difference 0:03:52.240 --> 0:03:54.760 between two and five and three and four is big. Yeah, 0:03:54.800 --> 0:03:57.480 it's considering what everybody else is doing. You have San 0:03:57.520 --> 0:04:01.760 Francisco seven and oh, you have New Orleans would six 0:04:01.800 --> 0:04:05.080 and one. It's a very top heavy and bottom heavy league, 0:04:05.280 --> 0:04:06.960 which doesn't bode well for the teams at the bottom, 0:04:07.440 --> 0:04:10.880 and and it makes it even more difficult trying to 0:04:10.920 --> 0:04:13.440 grab a wild card spot. Yeah, that's what I mean, 0:04:13.600 --> 0:04:16.760 because you're gonna go ten wins may not come to Seattle. 0:04:16.839 --> 0:04:19.400 What are they five and two? Maybe we might. Yeah, 0:04:19.400 --> 0:04:21.160 they've they've lost twice and they were both at home, 0:04:21.240 --> 0:04:24.320 believe it or not. That's where we're going next. Yes, 0:04:24.440 --> 0:04:27.240 you know, Bruce arians has a good track record and 0:04:27.279 --> 0:04:30.040 four and one, so hey, we got that going for us. 0:04:30.120 --> 0:04:32.920 As he says, it's his house. Yes, I was just 0:04:32.920 --> 0:04:34.760 reminded of that by a guy who actually works for 0:04:34.800 --> 0:04:37.840 the Seahawks. I was not aware it was four and one. 0:04:38.160 --> 0:04:40.160 That's really great. That's pretty scread. He had said our 0:04:40.160 --> 0:04:42.480 house when he was with the Cardinals. I mean, can 0:04:42.520 --> 0:04:44.359 you do whatever it takes? That That brings me to 0:04:44.400 --> 0:04:47.360 a point um that I think you and I were 0:04:47.360 --> 0:04:51.280 in a conversation with somebody yesterday and I said something 0:04:51.320 --> 0:04:53.159 and you nodded your head because you felt the same way. 0:04:54.240 --> 0:04:56.400 And believe me, take this for what you will out there, 0:04:56.760 --> 0:04:59.720 there's a kind of a weird undercurrent in this building, 0:04:59.839 --> 0:05:04.320 a confidence. Uh. And the players were very emotional in 0:05:04.360 --> 0:05:06.960 the locker room after the lost Tennessee because, like the 0:05:07.000 --> 0:05:09.000 Giants game in particular, they felt like they should have 0:05:09.040 --> 0:05:13.800 won it right and that they can't stand these games 0:05:13.800 --> 0:05:16.640 anymore where they feel like they were the better team, 0:05:16.680 --> 0:05:19.080 and they didn't win, and and they they're clearly tired 0:05:19.120 --> 0:05:21.360 of it, and they were emotional, and they were very, 0:05:21.680 --> 0:05:25.119 very adamant about what needs to happen in the next 0:05:25.680 --> 0:05:29.599 nine games, nine games starting with Seattle. I'm not in 0:05:29.600 --> 0:05:31.600 any way saying anybody's well, I haven't heard, and I 0:05:31.640 --> 0:05:33.839 wouldn't want to hear anybody walking around saying they you know, 0:05:33.920 --> 0:05:35.960 they know we're gonna win a guarantee. I'm not getting 0:05:35.960 --> 0:05:37.920 a balton board material. I'm just saying, and I'm sure 0:05:37.920 --> 0:05:40.320 the Seas are confident as well. I'm just saying, you 0:05:40.400 --> 0:05:42.040 might think of two and five team that lost three 0:05:42.080 --> 0:05:43.320 in a row and has to go to what is 0:05:43.400 --> 0:05:45.520 traditionally one of the toughest venues in the lead of 0:05:45.560 --> 0:05:49.200 playing might be, you know, a little bit concerned. But 0:05:49.400 --> 0:05:53.599 there's I'm saying, it's kind of a weird feeling here, 0:05:53.839 --> 0:05:55.880 and weird good. I mean, you wanted to be confident, 0:05:56.839 --> 0:05:58.719 they feel good. I think I think a lot of 0:05:58.760 --> 0:06:02.640 it is, you know, don't miscontrued. It's not finger pointing. 0:06:02.960 --> 0:06:07.479 It's well, they're pointing out themselves at themselves, saying we're 0:06:07.560 --> 0:06:10.080 hurting ourselves. If each each person is supposed to do 0:06:10.120 --> 0:06:12.039 what they're supposed and the guys are tired of it. 0:06:12.120 --> 0:06:14.560 Man Mike Evans, the way the words he was saying 0:06:14.800 --> 0:06:18.359 to the David, they're tired of it. Um, Bruce Arians 0:06:18.400 --> 0:06:21.640 talked about after the game, we got Bruce on the 0:06:21.640 --> 0:06:23.760 air and we asked him, you know what he of course, 0:06:23.800 --> 0:06:25.239 you want to know what he said to the team, 0:06:25.240 --> 0:06:28.800 and he responded immediately, I didn't say a word. I 0:06:28.800 --> 0:06:33.360 didn't have to Levante David and just owned it. And 0:06:34.000 --> 0:06:36.160 a couple of players spoke up, but mostly Lavante. And 0:06:36.200 --> 0:06:38.160 then afterwards Bruce said that that's all it needs to 0:06:38.200 --> 0:06:39.760 be said. And they broke it. They broke the huddle, 0:06:40.520 --> 0:06:43.039 and that's called leadership. Yeah, well that's what you need. 0:06:43.320 --> 0:06:45.360 You know. Bruce's Bruce Arian's teams have never lost three 0:06:45.360 --> 0:06:48.159 in a row before. Uh. And that's so he's an 0:06:48.200 --> 0:06:51.920 unchartered waters so to speak. But um, yeah, I think 0:06:51.960 --> 0:06:53.920 they know a lot of people say unchartered waters when 0:06:53.920 --> 0:06:56.880 they say that you said it, right, Well, people say 0:06:56.960 --> 0:07:01.040 unchartered waters unchartered like they harder ship has ever done. 0:07:01.080 --> 0:07:04.120 Next because I'm a fisherman, Well, we are the salty dogs, yes, 0:07:04.320 --> 0:07:06.279 and you are actually a fisherman. I am, I know, 0:07:06.360 --> 0:07:08.080 not not a really great one, but I know people 0:07:08.080 --> 0:07:10.000 who can fish, and so I've learned you've been on 0:07:10.040 --> 0:07:13.000 the right boats all people. I have learned quite a bit. 0:07:13.080 --> 0:07:17.000 I am not. I am less than zero as a fisherman. 0:07:17.160 --> 0:07:19.040 And I don't think I would enjoy it being on 0:07:19.080 --> 0:07:21.560 a boat. Yeah, having a few bruised, yeah, I could 0:07:21.560 --> 0:07:23.560 do that part. Well, I get c sick. So this 0:07:23.640 --> 0:07:26.480 is a whole new channel. Yeah, but you still like fishing. 0:07:26.560 --> 0:07:29.120 It's it's unbelievable there it's a Russian hands. Are we 0:07:29.160 --> 0:07:31.560 talking like out in the ocean fishing? Well, you know, 0:07:31.600 --> 0:07:34.520 I spent four days out in the Dry Tortugas, which 0:07:34.560 --> 0:07:38.679 is about ninety miles outside of Miami, about ninety miles 0:07:38.800 --> 0:07:41.640 Key West, a dry tortio they're called the Dry Tortugas 0:07:41.680 --> 0:07:44.680 is a territorial section of water. And then there's a 0:07:44.720 --> 0:07:47.640 Fort Fort Jefferson that's there. It's a national park that 0:07:47.760 --> 0:07:50.360 we actually went to. Yeah, it's very very cool. Sounds 0:07:50.360 --> 0:07:55.360 great and yst Key West off a Key West. I 0:07:55.360 --> 0:07:56.760 think I saw that I was in Key West last 0:07:57.040 --> 0:07:59.200 but earlier. Yeah. No, it's one of those things that 0:08:00.160 --> 0:08:02.240 it's a it's a rush when things go right. But 0:08:02.320 --> 0:08:04.160 you know, kind of like kind of like football, you 0:08:04.240 --> 0:08:06.400 know when it's going right. And I thought at the 0:08:06.480 --> 0:08:11.160 end of the half in game against Tennessee, I was 0:08:11.280 --> 0:08:14.200 very impressed with with what was coming together. Come back, 0:08:14.680 --> 0:08:16.280 come back. You know. The funny thing about that was 0:08:16.320 --> 0:08:19.000 you always talk about how you know, you lose, you 0:08:19.080 --> 0:08:20.800 defer or you lose the coin flip or whatever, and 0:08:20.800 --> 0:08:22.880 you get the ball first in the second half, and 0:08:23.360 --> 0:08:25.160 you like to be that team that has the ball 0:08:25.200 --> 0:08:26.880 at the end of the half, scores, comes out and 0:08:26.920 --> 0:08:29.960 scores again. That double dip thing that you know everybody 0:08:29.960 --> 0:08:32.400 credits Build all Check with inventing, but everybody wants to 0:08:32.400 --> 0:08:34.920 do it. The Bucks kind of did that even though 0:08:34.920 --> 0:08:38.000 they didn't have that situation because the Titans scored a 0:08:38.040 --> 0:08:41.280 field goal with just like a minute left, and so 0:08:41.320 --> 0:08:43.560 you're like, oh, and they get the ball first, you think, okay, 0:08:43.559 --> 0:08:45.040 they're gonna do it to us, But instead we did 0:08:45.080 --> 0:08:46.760 it to them because we used that minute to drive 0:08:46.800 --> 0:08:49.719 down great plays by Mike Evans touchdown and then a 0:08:49.800 --> 0:08:52.520 quick stop to start the second half and another touchdown 0:08:52.520 --> 0:08:54.480 to Mike Evans. So even though we didn't have the setup, 0:08:54.520 --> 0:08:56.600 we actually ended up doing that and that was the 0:08:56.640 --> 0:08:59.280 best part of the game. Before and after wasn't as good. 0:08:59.720 --> 0:09:02.040 But you Um, an alert just popped up on my 0:09:02.080 --> 0:09:05.640 phone and it said, uh, the Bengals are benching Andy Dalton, 0:09:06.080 --> 0:09:08.560 which got me thinking about one of the things we 0:09:08.559 --> 0:09:10.800 were I had written down here and we had we 0:09:10.800 --> 0:09:12.720 were just talking before this about how there's the feeling 0:09:12.760 --> 0:09:16.600 in this building. Um, but there's for me what what 0:09:16.600 --> 0:09:19.800 what is bothersome is it feels like the Bucks in 0:09:19.800 --> 0:09:22.240 two thousand and nineteen are missing out on an opportunity 0:09:22.280 --> 0:09:25.400 because this this league is very stratified right here. It's 0:09:25.600 --> 0:09:27.120 a lot of really good teams and a lot of 0:09:27.120 --> 0:09:29.720 teams that are very bad. And I don't think the 0:09:29.760 --> 0:09:32.959 Bucks are one of those very bad teams, but our 0:09:32.960 --> 0:09:35.240 records down there with them. This would be this would 0:09:35.240 --> 0:09:36.840 have been a great season for us to be that 0:09:36.920 --> 0:09:40.160 team that rises up from where we were while these 0:09:40.160 --> 0:09:42.400 other teams fall. I mean, just think about where these 0:09:42.440 --> 0:09:47.000 teams are. Think about Miami, the Jets, Denver, Bengals. Now 0:09:47.040 --> 0:09:49.040 they bench Dalton, they haven't won a game, Atlanta has 0:09:49.040 --> 0:09:50.680 fallen apart. They're probably gonna have to go through a 0:09:50.679 --> 0:09:54.120 big rebuild. Washington is it's all a big blank show 0:09:54.160 --> 0:09:56.720 and a lot of well, Chicago still got a shot, 0:09:56.760 --> 0:09:59.760 they've got problems, but it's I don't want to say 0:09:59.760 --> 0:10:02.280 the word, but these places, it's a big blank show 0:10:02.320 --> 0:10:05.319 and that's not what it is here. But missed opportunities 0:10:05.320 --> 0:10:08.120 have made this season essentially as as bad. I mean, 0:10:08.120 --> 0:10:10.719 those teams don't have quarterbacks. And you can say what 0:10:10.800 --> 0:10:13.840 you want to say about James Winston, but uh, if 0:10:13.880 --> 0:10:16.160 you especially if you if you agree with Bruce and 0:10:16.200 --> 0:10:18.000 say that neither of those interceptions were his fault and 0:10:18.000 --> 0:10:20.360 Bruce would know better. Nine. He was very adamant about it. 0:10:20.840 --> 0:10:22.720 I certainly it certainly felt like the last one that 0:10:22.760 --> 0:10:27.720 our receiver wasn't there during the During the broadcast, even 0:10:27.760 --> 0:10:31.040 before all that was brought up, Dave Moore did mention that, okay, so, 0:10:31.760 --> 0:10:34.640 which is interesting because like he said, you know, they're 0:10:34.640 --> 0:10:36.120 in a cover two. When they're in the cover two, 0:10:36.160 --> 0:10:38.800 you gotta go in. Yeah, he goes, that's just that's 0:10:38.840 --> 0:10:42.040 that's just the play. Yes, So Miami, you know, obviously 0:10:42.080 --> 0:10:44.280 Fitzpatrick is in a long term so and Rosen probably 0:10:44.320 --> 0:10:46.960 isn't it either. They don't jets. They have Donald but 0:10:47.280 --> 0:10:51.760 you know he's been up and down. Uh, Denver Flacco's hurt. 0:10:52.000 --> 0:10:54.600 They got a bunch of young guys. Cincinnati's Benching, Dalton, 0:10:54.600 --> 0:10:58.560 Atlanta Matt Ryan's hurt, Watchington quarterback situation. Most of these 0:10:58.920 --> 0:11:01.360 so many teams have a add quarterback situation. And I 0:11:01.400 --> 0:11:04.360 know that there are mixed feelings about Jameis Winston there, 0:11:04.640 --> 0:11:06.000 but you do have a guy that you can win 0:11:06.080 --> 0:11:08.800 games with. I mean, we should have won that game, 0:11:08.880 --> 0:11:10.440 We should have won the Giants game. We have we 0:11:10.480 --> 0:11:11.800 have a guy that can put up big numbers and 0:11:11.800 --> 0:11:13.560 if he can have the game like the four games 0:11:13.800 --> 0:11:18.120 stretched between weeks two and five when he was throwing 0:11:18.120 --> 0:11:20.400 touchdowns and that interceptions, you can win with that. We 0:11:20.520 --> 0:11:22.440 have that. I I don't know what the future holds 0:11:22.480 --> 0:11:24.679 long term for Jamis and the Buccaneers, but we have 0:11:24.720 --> 0:11:28.760 a quarterback, whereas most of these teams have nothing. You 0:11:28.760 --> 0:11:30.400 know what I'm saying. You know they've got a hurt guy, 0:11:30.760 --> 0:11:33.160 and I say we there's we should be out of 0:11:33.160 --> 0:11:35.800 this group, is my point. We're missing an opportunity here. 0:11:35.840 --> 0:11:37.720 But you're not. You're not and I guess you are 0:11:37.760 --> 0:11:39.719 what your record says, right, the old John Gruden thing. 0:11:40.360 --> 0:11:43.760 But it's just frustrating. Yeah, and I it not only 0:11:43.840 --> 0:11:46.880 is it frustrating for the fans, it's it's just frustrating. Period. 0:11:47.320 --> 0:11:50.720 We did touch base on the players on their frustration, 0:11:51.040 --> 0:11:54.480 and honestly, the only ones that can change it are them, 0:11:54.559 --> 0:11:56.880 And so we'll have to wait and see. I suppose 0:11:58.120 --> 0:12:01.360 if you want to walk a little tie rope here 0:12:01.520 --> 0:12:03.959 and stick our toe in the water, it should be 0:12:04.000 --> 0:12:07.040 a little careful. Should we talk about the inadvertent whistle? 0:12:08.280 --> 0:12:12.720 We gotta be a little careful here, right, I'm gonna defer. 0:12:14.520 --> 0:12:16.640 You'll let me go across? Well? Are you will you 0:12:16.640 --> 0:12:19.640 hold the rope study for me? Would you let me 0:12:19.679 --> 0:12:22.880 that bouncing bar there? Well, I think I think, what 0:12:22.880 --> 0:12:27.800 what um? If I'm gonna do it? Are you differing 0:12:27.800 --> 0:12:29.679 in that sense? If I go first? And then? No? No, 0:12:30.080 --> 0:12:31.760 this is how you do it. All you have to 0:12:31.840 --> 0:12:37.559 do is watch Bruce arians Monday press conference, just the beginning, 0:12:38.360 --> 0:12:40.400 and you pretty much you'll know how he feels. Yeah, 0:12:40.400 --> 0:12:42.480 it pretty much sums it up. It is frustrating. It 0:12:42.520 --> 0:12:44.360 was the first thing he said in both his postgame 0:12:44.360 --> 0:12:46.680 press conference and his money press press commerce, so obviously 0:12:46.679 --> 0:12:49.160 it was of great importance. To him, I'm gonna give 0:12:49.200 --> 0:12:50.640 it a little bit of a whirl here because I 0:12:50.679 --> 0:12:53.000 think this can be done. And you know, obviously what 0:12:53.040 --> 0:12:55.920 we're worried about here is putting yourself in position to 0:12:55.920 --> 0:12:57.800 get a fine as an NFL employe. Yeah, normally I 0:12:57.800 --> 0:13:00.079 wouldn't be so worried about it, but since there is 0:13:00.160 --> 0:13:03.200 so much conversation about it out of the building, and 0:13:03.320 --> 0:13:08.560 since everybody on all national platforms have been talking about it, 0:13:08.640 --> 0:13:11.600 arguing whether Bruce was right to say that or whether 0:13:12.080 --> 0:13:15.960 you know he's he's way off base, that it was 0:13:16.040 --> 0:13:19.520 one play. You can't blame them for your loss, that 0:13:19.640 --> 0:13:23.240 type of thing. I think there's elements of truth to that. Um. 0:13:23.280 --> 0:13:26.079 I think you can discuss the play though, because I 0:13:26.120 --> 0:13:29.200 can do that because the referee told the pool reporter 0:13:29.320 --> 0:13:33.040 that it was their whistle blewe because it was ruled 0:13:33.040 --> 0:13:35.440 that he was down before he lost the ball. Uh, 0:13:35.480 --> 0:13:38.360 and then upon reviewing it they realized that yes, he 0:13:38.480 --> 0:13:41.400 did fumble the ball. So we know they've admitted or 0:13:41.440 --> 0:13:44.240 not admitted, but acknowledged because you can see it right on. 0:13:44.320 --> 0:13:46.040 It's not a question that you can see it if 0:13:46.040 --> 0:13:50.600 you watch the replay. Clearly fumbled. So they that's a 0:13:50.640 --> 0:13:54.480 fact that he fumbled and there's a clear recovery and 0:13:54.880 --> 0:13:57.360 a return which would have been a touch on all that. 0:13:57.360 --> 0:14:01.719 That's not criticism, that's just a fact. So um, it's 0:14:01.760 --> 0:14:04.520 understandable why a coach would be frustrated if you if 0:14:04.520 --> 0:14:07.080 that whistle doesn't blow and one of the one of 0:14:07.080 --> 0:14:09.240 the officials did, none the others did. And there's a 0:14:09.280 --> 0:14:11.959 lot of discussion about uh in this league, and it's 0:14:11.960 --> 0:14:15.839 frustrating for everybody who watches this because you've heard that 0:14:15.880 --> 0:14:19.240 there's an emphasis on in places such as that on 0:14:19.480 --> 0:14:22.280 not blowing the whistle because if you let it play 0:14:22.320 --> 0:14:24.760 out and it turns out he didn't fumble, that's an 0:14:24.760 --> 0:14:28.480 easy fix, right If you blow the whistle and you 0:14:28.680 --> 0:14:30.640 realize he did fumble and it would have been touched on, 0:14:30.720 --> 0:14:33.240 you can't fix it. As the rules are, you can't 0:14:33.240 --> 0:14:35.280 fix it once the whistle is blown. The presumption as 0:14:35.280 --> 0:14:37.360 players here whistle, they know they don't have to play anymore, 0:14:37.600 --> 0:14:41.240 even if they're running anyway, which was interesting as they 0:14:41.320 --> 0:14:43.840 kept playing. Our guys did at least and a few 0:14:43.880 --> 0:14:47.200 of theirs. I'm sure it's probably hard for every player 0:14:47.240 --> 0:14:50.320 to hear the whistle. I we and what's very because 0:14:50.480 --> 0:14:53.960 what's what's very difficult about that particular play. And I 0:14:54.040 --> 0:14:56.160 understand why they blow a whistle, but usually when a 0:14:56.200 --> 0:14:58.720 whistle gets blown, it's because a guy is trying to 0:14:59.640 --> 0:15:02.200 uh and advanced the ball and he's being held up 0:15:02.280 --> 0:15:06.120 and press forward progress. Yes, and in this particular case, 0:15:06.280 --> 0:15:08.720 he was too yards short of the first down. Well 0:15:08.720 --> 0:15:11.520 he got just wallop and just he was It was 0:15:11.560 --> 0:15:13.400 a bang bang play. It wasn't he was held up. 0:15:13.440 --> 0:15:15.920 He blew up. It was right in front of us. 0:15:16.120 --> 0:15:19.440 And I mean it wasn't even a thought process whether 0:15:19.960 --> 0:15:22.200 whether he was just still trying to make forward progress 0:15:22.240 --> 0:15:25.160 he was, he got he was going back with then 0:15:25.200 --> 0:15:26.640 that they didn't even say that. They just thought he 0:15:26.640 --> 0:15:28.360 was down. And that's why. But that's why I don't 0:15:28.440 --> 0:15:30.680 understand why why you would blow so quickly. Well, I'll 0:15:30.720 --> 0:15:32.560 be honest, from up in the press box and probably 0:15:32.600 --> 0:15:35.240 on TV watching it live, you I didn't. I couldn't 0:15:35.240 --> 0:15:37.560 tell immediately that it was definitely a fumble. I mean, 0:15:37.760 --> 0:15:39.680 it's a great tech. You're like, who did he make it? 0:15:39.680 --> 0:15:41.160 He didn't make it? You're that's the first thing you're 0:15:41.200 --> 0:15:43.000 excited about. And then you see one of the ball 0:15:43.080 --> 0:15:44.880 the ground and our guys scoop it up, and then 0:15:44.920 --> 0:15:46.800 you started hoping it's a fumble. I couldn't tell, but 0:15:46.840 --> 0:15:49.920 I'm not down there on the field and the players 0:15:49.960 --> 0:15:52.400 are and they could see was a fumble, and obviously 0:15:52.440 --> 0:15:54.400 some of the rest, most of the rest felt at 0:15:54.440 --> 0:15:56.000 least that there was a question, so they didn't blow 0:15:56.040 --> 0:15:59.760 their whistle. So it'll be interesting to see what comes 0:15:59.760 --> 0:16:01.880 of the US, because it doesn't seem like this ever 0:16:02.000 --> 0:16:04.320 changes that, even when they say we're gonna emphasize not 0:16:04.320 --> 0:16:06.080 blowing the whistle, and maybe that's just what it is. 0:16:06.160 --> 0:16:09.960 It's hard for how many rests are there nine officials, 0:16:10.040 --> 0:16:13.360 nine on the field. Maybe it's hard for all nine 0:16:13.360 --> 0:16:16.640 of them to remember because you see as a ref, 0:16:16.680 --> 0:16:20.120 I assume you see an official, you see what you 0:16:20.160 --> 0:16:22.360 think you saw, And if what you think you saw 0:16:22.520 --> 0:16:25.280 was him hitting the ground and then the ball popping out, 0:16:25.600 --> 0:16:29.240 which wouldn't be a fumble, then you could blow. You 0:16:29.280 --> 0:16:31.520 could justify blowing the whistle because the play is over 0:16:31.520 --> 0:16:33.120 and you want to save everybody from running around. I 0:16:33.960 --> 0:16:35.840 think so maybe it's hard not to do that is 0:16:35.880 --> 0:16:38.480 what I'm saying. I think the reason why this is 0:16:38.520 --> 0:16:41.520 my opinion on why this has become a big issue 0:16:42.400 --> 0:16:47.400 is the league has said we are instructing our officials 0:16:47.440 --> 0:16:50.400 not to blow the whistle. But this is the third 0:16:50.600 --> 0:16:55.760 game this year that a whistle was blown the play dead, 0:16:56.040 --> 0:17:00.880 which would have resulted in yeah, there was to happen. Well, 0:17:00.920 --> 0:17:05.240 it happened to New Orleans, it happened to it happened 0:17:05.280 --> 0:17:08.240 to the Texans last week, and then it and it 0:17:08.280 --> 0:17:12.080 happened to the Buccaneers. So after the Saints one, it 0:17:12.160 --> 0:17:16.440 became this major discussion that no whistles are going to 0:17:16.520 --> 0:17:19.200 be That was the first big one. It was against 0:17:19.200 --> 0:17:21.359 the Rams, right because it was kind of funny that 0:17:21.440 --> 0:17:26.040 it and so that was that was so you here, 0:17:26.040 --> 0:17:28.080 they're going to emphasize blow and that was early in 0:17:28.119 --> 0:17:30.920 the year, and so we're not going to blow the whistle. 0:17:31.160 --> 0:17:34.880 And that's why I think this has become a bigger issue. 0:17:34.920 --> 0:17:37.320 If it was like one time this year, you say, okay, 0:17:37.440 --> 0:17:42.919 you know we're gonna revisit us. Well, but I understand 0:17:43.440 --> 0:17:47.240 I've I felt at that time that the Buccaneers would 0:17:47.240 --> 0:17:49.359 have won that game if that would have happened. And 0:17:49.400 --> 0:17:52.680 the reason why I say that is because you could 0:17:52.680 --> 0:17:57.679 just feel the momentum, it sucked out until they realize, Okay, no, 0:17:57.840 --> 0:18:00.200 it's not a touchdown. It's only gonna be here. Because 0:18:00.240 --> 0:18:02.080 you gotta remember that Titans were trying to do a 0:18:02.080 --> 0:18:05.480 trick play and the trick play didn't work. So their 0:18:05.520 --> 0:18:08.439 coach would have been highly questioned because you kick a 0:18:08.440 --> 0:18:10.439 field goal you're up by seven. I think what he 0:18:10.480 --> 0:18:12.560 was trying to do was win the game because they 0:18:12.600 --> 0:18:14.600 get the first down there, they can run down a 0:18:14.600 --> 0:18:16.919 lot more time and still kick a field goal potentially, 0:18:17.040 --> 0:18:20.080 but if they scored touchdown, it's over essentially. I also 0:18:20.240 --> 0:18:23.560 felt like we would have probably one had that touchdown 0:18:23.920 --> 0:18:28.359 by Andrew Adams counted. But let us let us acknowledge 0:18:28.480 --> 0:18:31.439 a couple of things. There were three and three minutes 0:18:31.440 --> 0:18:34.640 of forty one seconds left, which is plenty of time. Uh, 0:18:34.680 --> 0:18:36.679 And I know I felt good about what our defense 0:18:36.720 --> 0:18:38.520 did for most of that game. You know, their first 0:18:38.520 --> 0:18:42.520 two touchdowns were drives of like four and five yards. 0:18:42.720 --> 0:18:44.000 One of them was ten, but we gave him the 0:18:44.000 --> 0:18:45.959 first five on But you gotta remember, though, that they 0:18:46.000 --> 0:18:51.800 did drive nine. Until then, we had given up virtually 0:18:51.800 --> 0:18:54.720 no extended drives in the game. But after we got 0:18:54.800 --> 0:18:59.120 up twenty three to seventeen. They did have two extended 0:18:59.200 --> 0:19:04.520 drives once well, I think the yeah, I'm going off, 0:19:04.600 --> 0:19:07.080 you know, just I can't remember if the one that 0:19:07.160 --> 0:19:08.760 started at the tin was the one that ended in 0:19:08.800 --> 0:19:10.280 a field goal, which make it like a sixty eight 0:19:10.359 --> 0:19:12.439 yard right, But in any case, they were two extended drives. 0:19:12.480 --> 0:19:14.520 They did. They did get that, and they were converting 0:19:15.080 --> 0:19:18.399 third downs, which was the frustrat But it also changes 0:19:18.440 --> 0:19:21.920 how you play, It changes everything changes that. But that's 0:19:21.960 --> 0:19:24.600 an argument to bolster the side that says, you can't 0:19:24.640 --> 0:19:27.679