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Speaker 1: Hi everyone, It's Sophia. Welcome to work in progress. Hello friends,

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to work in progress. I cannot believe it

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Speaker 1: is the middle of January. Time doesn't exist, or I

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Speaker 1: guess perhaps does, but feels melty and crazy and weird.

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Speaker 1: It's been so nice to ease into the new year

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Speaker 1: with all of you. I'm still really reeling in a

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Speaker 1: good way from last week's incredible conversation with Ava Duvernet.

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Speaker 1: I have loved getting your feedback and hearing about how

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Speaker 1: you all felt so inspired by her. She really is

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Speaker 1: just one in a million, and I have to say

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Speaker 1: thank you. She said that the minute we shared about

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Speaker 1: the movie and talked about Seat sixteen, which, for those

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Speaker 1: of you who might have missed last week seeks Seat

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Speaker 1: sixteen dot com is where you can log on and

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Speaker 1: buy a ticket to Origin for a teenager, and it

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Speaker 1: also comes with a free year of masterclass. Ava Duvernet

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Speaker 1: is teaching a class on directing on Masterclass, and so

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Speaker 1: it's really such an amazing way to pay it forward

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Speaker 1: for a young person, especially because young people are the

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Speaker 1: ones most affected by these crazy book bands happening around

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Speaker 1: the country. And I really do believe, as she said,

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Speaker 1: that we can't triumph unless we learn the truth of

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Speaker 1: our history. And it's why Isabelle Wilkerson's book Cast is

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Speaker 1: so important. It's why the film that Ava made about

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Speaker 1: that book origin is so moving and special. And the

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Speaker 1: thank you comes in because she said that when we

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Speaker 1: shared about seat sixteen dot com on the podcast and

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Speaker 1: on Instagram, that the orders for tickets for teenagers across

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Speaker 1: than she had seen from so many other things. So

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Speaker 1: I just have to thank you all. I always say

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Speaker 1: that the folks who signed up to go on this

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Speaker 1: here on the podcast, y'all are like first responders to me.

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Speaker 1: You're the people who show up, who always speak up,

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Speaker 1: who are really encouraged to support one another in the

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Speaker 1: world around you. So I just really want to say thanks.

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Speaker 1: It's moving to me, it's moving to her, it's moving

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Speaker 1: to the folks involved in the movie, and I just

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Speaker 1: cannot wait to hear what y'all think. Since it's coming

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Speaker 1: out this Friday. I can't believe it. It's so exciting,

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Speaker 1: the nineteenth that's almost here, So please gather yourselves, gather

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Speaker 1: your friends, take five people to the movie theaters with you,

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Speaker 1: because what happens is movies like this that have limited

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Speaker 1: theatrical releases around the country. When they have big first weekends,

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Speaker 1: that's another week that these films stay in theaters. And

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Speaker 1: I know you guys have heard me say this on

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Speaker 1: So that's my gratitude, that's my PSA, that's my promos.

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Speaker 1: Let's all take up the fact that we can kind

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Speaker 1: of be the studio for this movie. We can. We

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Speaker 1: can groundswell it and take our loved ones and our

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Speaker 1: something really special for such a beautiful piece of art.

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Speaker 1: Now this week, you've probably noticed that it's just me

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Speaker 1: that's because the really cool overlap of having this podcast

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Speaker 1: and then doing Drama Queens with my One Tree Hill

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Speaker 1: as we are halfway through the first month of this

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Speaker 1: So with no further ado, let's jump into the questions

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Speaker 1: that y'all sent. The first one that comes in on

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Speaker 1: our list from c Rosenbauer, I actually think is perfect

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Speaker 1: when we reference twenty twenty four. The question is how

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Speaker 1: are you taking care of yourself during this election year

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Speaker 1: when anxiety runs high? Ugh, that's hard. I gotta be honest.

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Speaker 1: I find that I'm struggling to sleep well. I think

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Speaker 1: seeing what's happening out there in the world, you know,

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Speaker 1: But like Avias says, you really have to be honest

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Speaker 1: You know, I think strong men and I don't mean

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Speaker 1: reminded that we're a lot more similar than we are different,

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Speaker 1: And I know maybe that's not the shiny answer everybody wants,

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Speaker 1: out there in the world, the best way to interact

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Speaker 1: with someone who has a different view is just to

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Speaker 1: ask them about it, and if they've got a talking

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Speaker 1: point that you might know to be untrue, say well,

436
00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:14,200
Speaker 1: where'd you hear that? Or what made you think that?

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Speaker 1: You know, to really begin to interact with someone, to

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Speaker 1: have a conversation, but have it in a way that

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Speaker 1: feels human, I think is how you can build a

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Speaker 1: lot of bridges. And I think we also have to

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Speaker 1: be really clear on who we ask to do those things.

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Speaker 1: You know, we cannot put the most work in terms

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Speaker 1: of bridge building on the people who are the most

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Speaker 1: harmed or the most at risk in society. That's when

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Speaker 1: a lot of the rest of us need to figure

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Speaker 1: out how we can use our own privilege and our

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Speaker 1: own power to to kind of stand up for other

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Speaker 1: folks who maybe don't have as much. I think that's

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Speaker 1: really important. But I always come to tell me about

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Speaker 1: who you are, tell me about your family, tell me

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Speaker 1: what you care about, and I bet I'll be able

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Speaker 1: to point out that we actually believe a lot more

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Speaker 1: of the same things than you might think. And I

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Speaker 1: think that's a really good place to begin. And now

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Speaker 1: a word from our sponsors who make this show possible.

456
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Speaker 1: Ash asks what do you do when you feel stuck

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Speaker 1: or unmotivated? Don't we all? I think that goes back

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Speaker 1: to the question about rest. I've started to ask myself

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Speaker 1: not just what should you be doing right now, but

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Speaker 1: do you need to rest? Are you tired? Do you

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Speaker 1: need ten minutes to sit and stare at the wall?

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Speaker 1: Did you sleep well last night? You know, check in,

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Speaker 1: check in on how you're actually doing. And then I think,

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Speaker 1: you know, especially for someone like me who has a

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Speaker 1: little bit of task paralysis, you know, really common ADHD thing,

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Speaker 1: figuring out how to plug into my my more motivated side,

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Speaker 1: the part of me that when I get started on

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Speaker 1: something that I love, I could just do it all day.

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Speaker 1: I think is really about taking the pressure off a

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Speaker 1: little bit you know, rather than looking at a to

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Speaker 1: do list and going I just have so much to

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Speaker 1: do and I'm so exhausted, and I don't know how

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Speaker 1: I'm going to get all this done, and I just

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Speaker 1: don't even know where to start. Is saying well, what

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Speaker 1: are three things I could do today? What are three

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Speaker 1: things I could do in the next hour? Off this

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Speaker 1: whole list, and I think just taking a little bit

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Speaker 1: of the pressure off to get everything done while also

479
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Speaker 1: trying to just get moving. Just get one foot in

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Speaker 1: front of the other for a couple of steps, and suddenly,

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Speaker 1: before you know it, you've got momentum that I think

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Speaker 1: is a really good way to get unstuck. If there's

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Speaker 1: anybody at home listening who happens to be, you know,

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Speaker 1: on mental health worker or expert, and you have tips

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Speaker 1: on getting unstock rounmotivated, also drop those in a little

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Speaker 1: note to us. We would love to hear your studied

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Speaker 1: tips and tricks. Let the work in progress people know. Well,

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Speaker 1: this is a fun shift. Susan asks what is your

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Speaker 1: favorite dish that you cook when you're hosting? Oh my goodness,

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Speaker 1: I love to host. I love to have people over

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Speaker 1: and gather folks around a table to break bread and

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Speaker 1: talk and laugh. It's really one of my favorite things

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Speaker 1: to do. And a couple months ago I started making

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Speaker 1: this really bomb chicken and couscous dish that honestly is

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Speaker 1: so good. People request it now and it's become something

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Speaker 1: that I do probably every ten to fourteen days in

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Speaker 1: my house, and so that at current is my favorite

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Speaker 1: thing to serve, To cook and serve when I'm hosting.

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Speaker 1: I love all the food and drink questions. You guys,

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Speaker 1: you know me, You know that that is my love language.

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Speaker 1: Caitlin asks, what is your go to coffee order? I

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Speaker 1: either do an Americano just like you know, a classic

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Speaker 1: pulled black coffee, or I do an almond milk latte.

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Speaker 1: I just love. Yeah, I love a good latte. One

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Speaker 1: of my friends recently got me on oat milk flat whites.

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Speaker 1: But sometimes I just want like a bigger cup of coffee.

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Speaker 1: I'm one of those people A'll nurse a cup of

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Speaker 1: coffee for two hours. I just like to have it around,

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Speaker 1: So I tend to go for a slightly larger option.

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Speaker 1: And Cassie asks, what is your morning routine and what

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Speaker 1: do you do for self care? Ugh? I dream of

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Speaker 1: being a person with a morning routine. You guys, It's

513
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Speaker 1: truly one of those things that I think is so

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Speaker 1: grown up and so cool. I think because I went

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Speaker 1: from you know, I was in high school, I was

516
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Speaker 1: in college for three years, and then I went straight

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Speaker 1: onto the set of One Trio, where every day, the

518
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Speaker 1: hours are different every day, the call times are different

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Speaker 1: every day, the sets are different every day, the dialogue

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Speaker 1: you're doing is different. I've never been able to have

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Speaker 1: a morning routine because I spent you know, a decade

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Speaker 1: doing that for a show, and then jumped onto Partners

523
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Speaker 1: and jumped onto PD. Everything has been, you know, this

524
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Speaker 1: sort of whirlwind. I didn't get any slow down time

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Speaker 1: until the pandemic hit and then starting in the fall

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Speaker 1: of twenty twenty one, we were shooting up in Toronto.

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Speaker 1: So I'm really coming to terms with the fact that

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Speaker 1: because I'm so used to set hours and set timing

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Speaker 1: and getting my call sheet at night and then figuring

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Speaker 1: out what i have to do the next morning, I've

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Speaker 1: never created a morning routine. And I just think it

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Speaker 1: sounds so cool, like the idea that you could get

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Speaker 1: up at the same time every day and have these

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Speaker 1: things that you do for yourself. I realize the irony

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Speaker 1: of being an adult woman who you know, pays a

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Speaker 1: mortgage and like produces television, saying it sounds so grown

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Speaker 1: up to me when people have morning routines, but it

538
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Speaker 1: really does you guys. Maybe that's one of the things

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Speaker 1: I should work on as an intention for the new year.

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Speaker 1: This is sort of hitting me in this moment. Do

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Speaker 1: you all have morning routines? And if so, what are they?

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Speaker 1: Will you please DM them to us or put those Actually,

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Speaker 1: I'm realizing this in real time. We should do that

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Speaker 1: as a question box on our socials because I would

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Speaker 1: love to know how you guys build your morning routines

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Speaker 1: and also how do you stick to them, because let's

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Speaker 1: be realistic, like the days that I don't have to

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Speaker 1: get up, you know, and start on zooms at eight am,

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Speaker 1: or jump onto early podcasts or be on set at

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Speaker 1: four in the morning, like I'm snoozing. Someone just sent

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Speaker 1: me a Mel Robbin's clip about why you're not supposed

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Speaker 1: to snooze, and it blew my mind and I was like,

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Speaker 1: we're at row I'm going to have to change that

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Speaker 1: habit real quick. So I would actually love to know

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Speaker 1: I'm going to I'm going to turn this podcast on

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Speaker 1: all of you and tell you that I would really

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Speaker 1: love to know how you build your morning routines and

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Speaker 1: how do you actually stick to them. I think I'm

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Speaker 1: also one of those overly ambitious people who when I

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Speaker 1: say I'm going to do something like that, I make

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Speaker 1: a list of thirty things I have to do in

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Speaker 1: the morning, and that's just not realistic. So will y'all

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Speaker 1: tell me what your routines are and how you've actually

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Speaker 1: managed to make them doable. I would really love that. Oh, Jessica,

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Speaker 1: you're sweet. Jessica asked, how is your health? I've been

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Speaker 1: worried about you. Yeah, the end of the middle of

567
00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:19,760
Speaker 1: last year into this fall was really hard. You guys,

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Speaker 1: it's a wild thing when and it shouldn't seem so shocking, right.

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Speaker 1: You know, we're in a global pandemic. We've lost millions

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Speaker 1: of people, and we have millions more people who have been,

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Speaker 1: you know, dramatically affected, and some of whom are are

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Speaker 1: now disabled because of these illnesses. I'm incredibly lucky that

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Speaker 1: my experience with post viral syndrome resolved itself. I mean

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Speaker 1: I still check in regularly at the doctor, like I

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Speaker 1: get monitored and I will, you know, for a full

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Speaker 1: year just to be sure of that. But I truly,

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Speaker 1: when I tell you, thank my lucky stars that after

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Speaker 1: three really scary months, I kind of came out of

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Speaker 1: the valley that I was in that I worried might

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Speaker 1: be permanent. It's it's a really sobering experience. It's a

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Speaker 1: really humbling experience to get sick like that. And you know,

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Speaker 1: it was also overlapping with like a pretty gnarly time

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Speaker 1: in my life. None of it was easy, But I

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Speaker 1: will say, and maybe this is just because I have

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Speaker 1: to figure out what things mean in order to sort

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Speaker 1: of understand them. When I look back, I definitely think

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Speaker 1: there was I definitely think there was a big lesson

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Speaker 1: in all of that. And I think learning to slow

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Speaker 1: down and learning to really listen to myself and my

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Speaker 1: body my heart changed my life in a good way.

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Speaker 1: And I think I've I've known that stuff, right, Like

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Speaker 1: you can kind of point at your temple and be

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Speaker 1: like I know this up here, but like do I

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Speaker 1: know it in here? Do I know it in my chest?

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Speaker 1: Do I know it in my body? You know? Have

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Speaker 1: I carried what I intellectually know into my knowing into

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Speaker 1: my bones. And this was a really big season of

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Speaker 1: integrating knowledge into knowing for me, And so I really appreciate,

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Speaker 1: you know, that people were concerned that people check in.

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to figure out, you know how, and if

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Speaker 1: I want to talk about that more. It's a weird

602
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:44,560
Speaker 1: thing to be a public health advocate and then to

603
00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:47,439
Speaker 1: go through your own personal version of a public health

604
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:52,480
Speaker 1: crisis and be like, do I want to sort of like,

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Speaker 1: for lack of a better term, violate my own like

606
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:57,400
Speaker 1: hip hop protections. Do I want to really talk about

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00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:05,280
Speaker 1: everything I experienced being sick? Does that feel personal and sacred?

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00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:08,200
Speaker 1: I don't totally have the answer yet. I feel like

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Speaker 1: by now, you guys probably know that it takes me

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Speaker 1: a while to really process things. And once I've figured

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Speaker 1: them out and I feel like I understand them, almost

612
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Speaker 1: like once I've written the whole chapter, then I can

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00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:24,560
Speaker 1: let other people read it that kind of energy. I'm

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Speaker 1: still kind of writing it all down figuratively. But I

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00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:34,160
Speaker 1: do really appreciate that people were checking in, and I did.

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Speaker 1: I did feel really blessed that I was. I like,

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Speaker 1: we went from summer, we literally transitioned into the beginning

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Speaker 1: of fall. It was early September and I got cleared

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Speaker 1: to travel, and it was right before this family trip

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Speaker 1: to Italy that we'd been working on for years and

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Speaker 1: organizing this family reunion, and we had, you know, over

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Speaker 1: fifty people, five generations of our family in one place.

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Speaker 1: And the fact that I did not have to miss that, like,

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Speaker 1: let me tell you what, people use that phrase, like

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Speaker 1: you know, your angels were looking out for you, however

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Speaker 1: you want to say it. I really really felt lucky

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Speaker 1: that all of that kind of happened on the calendar

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Speaker 1: in that way, and that I got to be there

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Speaker 1: with my family and my parents. It was very special.

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Speaker 1: So thank you so much for checking in and for

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Speaker 1: your concern. And I'm okay, it sounds cheesy, but like

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Speaker 1: I really do think everything happens for a reason, and

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Speaker 1: so I will take it. I will take it. All

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Speaker 1: of the lessons and all of the learning. Let's see,

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Speaker 1: And this is actually kind of a great last question, Megan,

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Speaker 1: What a simple but profound thing. Megan asks, how are you?

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Speaker 1: I am? I am growing and grateful and learning a

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00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:16,920
Speaker 1: lot about patience, I think, and that's that's really good.

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Speaker 1: I'm happy and thank God healthy, and I do not

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Speaker 1: take any of that for granted, and I will say

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Speaker 1: I wish that for all of you, you know, happiness

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00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:33,439
Speaker 1: and health, and I hope that if you're going through

643
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:36,680
Speaker 1: growing seasons that you can see that they're going to

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Speaker 1: take you to even better places. I believe it, and

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00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:43,680
Speaker 1: I certainly think all of you who show up, you know,

646
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Speaker 1: for this show about curiosity tells me you're all special

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Speaker 1: and kind and curious humans, and those are my favorite

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Speaker 1: kind of people. So thank you for being here, thank

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Speaker 1: you for your great questions, and we will do more

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Speaker 1: and more of these. I really I love getting to

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Speaker 1: build this community in this podcast with all of you,

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Speaker 1: So thanks for letting us know you wanted us to

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Speaker 1: do this, and we'll keep it rolling. Have a great week,

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Speaker 1: you guys,