WEBVTT - Daddy for Mayor

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<v Speaker 1>I got. Hello, Welcome to We Knows Parenting. I'm bet

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<v Speaker 1>Newell and with me is my little husband Rick Nney.

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<v Speaker 1>That was not cute. I'm Peter McNerney. God forbid you'd

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<v Speaker 1>be cute. I'm never cute. I'm a man spectacled voice.

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<v Speaker 1>Back on. We are your host to talk about kids

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<v Speaker 1>and a pretty busy week here, I'd say, so number

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<v Speaker 1>one numerous. You know Halloween. Oh, you think that's the

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<v Speaker 1>biggest thing that happened this week. I don't know. There's

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<v Speaker 1>so much. Um, I think of thing that's bigger than Halloween. What. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>we have a new nephewinginging guests of the pod, my

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<v Speaker 1>little brother Sam sister from Law Race to the Life

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<v Speaker 1>Creator herself burned a baby early, beautiful boy. Let's not

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<v Speaker 1>give all of his details. Social Security a way. I

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<v Speaker 1>know you are so tempted to Social Security may or

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<v Speaker 1>may not be number number number. I know you are

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<v Speaker 1>on your way to listening his full name and street address,

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<v Speaker 1>and um, we face time with him tonight. You did

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<v Speaker 1>are you jealous? What did he say? He said? He said,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a baby that was born early and I'm so

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<v Speaker 1>tiny and I'm swimming in my one You know, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>in my car seat and I'm dead asleep, but I

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<v Speaker 1>still look exactly like your little brother, Sam. Man. That

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<v Speaker 1>baby has no idea how hard I'm going to sniff

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<v Speaker 1>his head. God, they're so tiny. It's such a little baby.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god. Um, I don't yeah, I can't even

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<v Speaker 1>process that right now. The baby is home. Everyone's healthy,

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<v Speaker 1>racist family, a lot of family. Her mom's got in

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<v Speaker 1>town from Bosnia. Um, we're staying away because there's a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people around the recovery. We're not We're not

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<v Speaker 1>into girl to the recovery. We would definitely just be

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<v Speaker 1>a distraction from taking care of the baby. There's plenty.

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<v Speaker 1>But boy, I want to go. I know I want

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<v Speaker 1>to see the baby, but I also just want I

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<v Speaker 1>want race to sleep, to sleep, a real sleep, the

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<v Speaker 1>sleep of human beings where multiple hours passed um like

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<v Speaker 1>I just accidentally did before this recording. I fell asleep,

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<v Speaker 1>you did, and you woke up like it was as

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<v Speaker 1>you had a real moment, like a spiritual experience when

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<v Speaker 1>you fell asleep in the bed, and then I left

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<v Speaker 1>you to relax for a second, and then I walked

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<v Speaker 1>back in and you you woke up like a toddler

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<v Speaker 1>wakes up from a nap. You were like, you were

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<v Speaker 1>like arching your bag and like getting into You're like

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<v Speaker 1>standing on your feet practically. You're like, what is sleep? Like?

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<v Speaker 1>You're so you're drooling. I was drooling a lot. You

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<v Speaker 1>had a really abrupt I was panic because I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>plan to fall asleep. Yeah, it was scary. You never

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<v Speaker 1>ceased to milk one of those moments for its full

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<v Speaker 1>dramatic potential. See, you've always accused me of being overly dramatic.

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<v Speaker 1>And when I like, but You're like, it's just you've

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<v Speaker 1>you've been around Brent our kids, right, Yeah, who learned

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<v Speaker 1>it from you? That's just how his face works, how

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<v Speaker 1>what he thinks and fields. Just he's mimicking his examples,

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<v Speaker 1>which includes on a genetic level, he is. This is

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<v Speaker 1>how we are, baby. We're expressive. It's nurture. Baby. Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>this expressiveness is pays pays our bills. We we I'm

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<v Speaker 1>making faces. Can you see it? They go showing up

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<v Speaker 1>money making sounds like this mug um. But in the

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<v Speaker 1>the spirit of mimicry, Our kids have rewatched the Charlie

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<v Speaker 1>Brown Halloween movie called Something About the Great Pumpkin, Great

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<v Speaker 1>Pumpkin Charlie Brown. Yeah, they've rewatched it a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>times now, and they've picked up some bizarre slang from

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<v Speaker 1>the nineteen fifties or sixties, and so last night there's

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<v Speaker 1>there's been a lot of like fighting and bickering between

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<v Speaker 1>them lately for any and all reasons. Yeah, And so

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<v Speaker 1>they kept I would overhear them talking and they'd be like,

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<v Speaker 1>if you don't do this, I'm going to pound you.

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<v Speaker 1>And they kept they kept threatening to pound each other,

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<v Speaker 1>like maybe they both do it seriously, and Brenn will

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<v Speaker 1>be like, well, if you do that, I'm gonna pound you.

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<v Speaker 1>And then and they clearly don't know what pound me.

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<v Speaker 1>They were like sucking it out and they were like

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<v Speaker 1>they clearly are, like they know it's like a threat.

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<v Speaker 1>But then and you were like, it's hashtag idiots. They like,

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<v Speaker 1>they really a lot of the slang from this movie

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<v Speaker 1>has resonated with them. They've been saying rats a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>They're like rats and then encourage rats. Yeah, rats is fine.

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<v Speaker 1>And then they're saying, um, sorry, I'm just leaking at

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<v Speaker 1>my notes which are not opening there. Okay, they're saying, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>so Brin was Keet saying he's like, you've got to

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<v Speaker 1>stop that, you blockhead, and like every sentence he said

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<v Speaker 1>would be punctuated by blockhead. But he clearly thought it

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<v Speaker 1>was like a funny thing to say, so you kind

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<v Speaker 1>of laugh, and honestly, it would kind of lighten the

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<v Speaker 1>mood of all of his confrontations, because he's been very

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<v Speaker 1>dramatically confrontational lately. And he'll be like, you're a bad mommy.

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<v Speaker 1>If you don't do this, you're not going to be

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<v Speaker 1>watched TV this weekend. And he's like he's turning, he's

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<v Speaker 1>using our language on us. Um, I can't tell you

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<v Speaker 1>the argument that we had in the car today. He

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<v Speaker 1>was something about butts and farts. He's like, daddy teachers.

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<v Speaker 1>Some of the teachers said, I thought it was really

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<v Speaker 1>funny my thought about farts, and I wasn't fully listening,

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<v Speaker 1>and then I tuned in and I was like, wait,

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<v Speaker 1>you're dear. So you think your your teachers like it

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<v Speaker 1>when you talk about butts and farts And he's like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>most of them. I'm like, I find that hard to believe.

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<v Speaker 1>He's probably right, and then he and then he goes, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>my teacher said to not ask her about it. I go, well,

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<v Speaker 1>you know a parent teacher conferences are coming up. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna ask her about it. And he goes, no, they

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<v Speaker 1>said the rules are you're not allowed to ask. If

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<v Speaker 1>you ask, the police will come get you and put

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<v Speaker 1>you in jail. And so then I just was go

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<v Speaker 1>to him on and I was like, it's not against

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<v Speaker 1>the law, it's against the rules. There's a difference because

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<v Speaker 1>he goes school has laws. Daddy's school has laws. You

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<v Speaker 1>can't ask. I'm like, well, I'm gonna ask. You go

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<v Speaker 1>to jail. Like, well, then I'll go to jail, but

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna ask. He started getting so upset, and then

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<v Speaker 1>finally he goes, um, I don't ask. Um, Okay, they

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<v Speaker 1>don't like farts and butts. I lied, I said, I know,

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<v Speaker 1>they don't like tell the truth. He goes, okay, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a whole there's another shure. It's going to tell you,

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<v Speaker 1>but first I'll tell you that he threatened to call

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<v Speaker 1>the police on me this weekend. And I said, well,

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<v Speaker 1>what if I call the police on you? And he

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<v Speaker 1>said kids can't go to jail. And I did tell

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<v Speaker 1>him that, and then he repeated this outside because our

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<v Speaker 1>neighbor who is almost exactly Brind's age, was walking up

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<v Speaker 1>the stairs with him coming in from outside, and he

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<v Speaker 1>was like, they were like just talking about some fantasy,

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<v Speaker 1>nonsense five year old stuff and they're like, and then

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<v Speaker 1>he'll go to jail and die. And then and they're

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<v Speaker 1>like just like trying to say like the craziest things

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<v Speaker 1>they can think of, and then they'll put his butt

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<v Speaker 1>in jail. And brand was like, kids can't go to jail.

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<v Speaker 1>Like this is this his new this is his theme song.

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<v Speaker 1>Kids can't go to down, Kids can't go to jail.

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<v Speaker 1>I tried it hard, but they wouldn't let me in.

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<v Speaker 1>Now kids can't go to jail. According according to his

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<v Speaker 1>version of events, he has tried. He pulled the fire

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<v Speaker 1>alarm and they threatened to put him in jail at school.

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<v Speaker 1>That is when I told him because he said that

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<v Speaker 1>he lied to the police. I don't even know if

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<v Speaker 1>he talked to the police, but I told him he

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<v Speaker 1>should not lie to the police, and that he goes

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<v Speaker 1>that anyone of the jail and I said, they won't

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<v Speaker 1>put you in jail. They're not going to put the

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<v Speaker 1>little kid in jail. So now he's bragging about how

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<v Speaker 1>kids going to jail. Here's one of the major stories

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<v Speaker 1>over weekend, which I haven't told you, is that they

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<v Speaker 1>I got home so Sunday morning, I realized that Brenna

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<v Speaker 1>didn't have skating, and I had a very scant couple

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<v Speaker 1>of hours to escape and try to do the mountains

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<v Speaker 1>of work I have to do. And I came home

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<v Speaker 1>a little frazzled, and my children were very stir crazy

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<v Speaker 1>from being inside all day, and the house was a disaster,

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<v Speaker 1>and they both were too edgy to get dressed in

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<v Speaker 1>any sort of logical, rational way. They were both the

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<v Speaker 1>most difficult people ever um and when I would step

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<v Speaker 1>away from them a second to like clear my head

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<v Speaker 1>and like put things away, they would like come immediately

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<v Speaker 1>trying to undo what I'm doing, or start fights with

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<v Speaker 1>each other, or just like be horrible. So I kept

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<v Speaker 1>having to pull them apart and like try to calm

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<v Speaker 1>one down while the other one was like creating pure chaos.

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<v Speaker 1>And then I was with Maven and Brinda was in

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<v Speaker 1>the kitchen and I was trying to get her dressed,

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<v Speaker 1>and she was like continually naked, but like putting on

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<v Speaker 1>mittens because I was trying to put the mittens away,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like just like annoying and she so then

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<v Speaker 1>I calm her down. I get her to like finally

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<v Speaker 1>start picking out real clothes, like I have to get

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<v Speaker 1>you guys out of this apartment or you're gonna murder

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<v Speaker 1>me in my sleep. And then Brent, I go walk

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<v Speaker 1>into the kitchen. Brent's standing on the counter trying to

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<v Speaker 1>do something he's not supposed to do, and he spots

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<v Speaker 1>me startles and not fully standing on the counter, falls

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<v Speaker 1>off the counter onto the ground, rolls on his side,

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<v Speaker 1>slams his head into the ground, has like a big bruise,

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<v Speaker 1>and then he starts pulling a you, which is like

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<v Speaker 1>wandering around the apartment crying to himself, like recovering, and

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<v Speaker 1>then just like doing gentle sobs like circles around there. Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, sometimes people will actually feel what they feel

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<v Speaker 1>and their faces showing what they actually feel. I did

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<v Speaker 1>think that's what he felt, but he was like I

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<v Speaker 1>would I would be comforting him, and then he'd wander

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<v Speaker 1>away and then he would just like there. It was

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<v Speaker 1>just he told me this story lightly he and he

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<v Speaker 1>told me this bump, it's not better tonight, he goes,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not better it won't be better for fifty days.

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<v Speaker 1>That's how long the of this bump takes to get better. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>it just it happened on the tail of just like

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<v Speaker 1>so many many examples of me telling them to not

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<v Speaker 1>do things that we're gonna hurt them or bother them,

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<v Speaker 1>and just them both ignoring me. And so I was

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<v Speaker 1>at that point and as a parent where you're kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like, you see, go bump your head, idiot, but

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<v Speaker 1>like I was kind of like I don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>like rub it in while he's crying. But there's points

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<v Speaker 1>where he was recovered as like do you understand why

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<v Speaker 1>you should listen to me when I am telling you

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<v Speaker 1>not to do dangerous things? And like it's just really

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<v Speaker 1>you trying to find those moments because you you, you

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<v Speaker 1>it's not good to do that, like when he's still

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<v Speaker 1>emotional in Europe set and it's the like you see,

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<v Speaker 1>he's not gonna absorb anything too, but to calm him

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<v Speaker 1>down and be on his side and then find those

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<v Speaker 1>little moments to go, do you see where this started

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<v Speaker 1>so you can recognize it next time, so he can

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<v Speaker 1>brag about it to Daddy later, brag about what bumping

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<v Speaker 1>his head he's real proud. It was really such a

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<v Speaker 1>dramatic fall. We didn't even talk about Halloween. I was

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<v Speaker 1>working that night. Was the first Halloween I ever missed.

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<v Speaker 1>I took the kids around the co op buildings. It

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<v Speaker 1>was good because we were not especially now that brand

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<v Speaker 1>is in kindergarten. He has like three friends who live

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<v Speaker 1>in our co op building community. So you're actually now

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<v Speaker 1>friends for the first time for real. Yeah, they're like

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<v Speaker 1>really just being kids. That are they've seen before. I

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<v Speaker 1>was actually when I was walking in yesterday and we

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<v Speaker 1>happened to run into our neighbor across the hall. Her

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<v Speaker 1>son that I was just talking about the Brin was like, hey, um,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm really excited to go back to school tomorrow, like

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<v Speaker 1>he was. He's just talking about like Monday at school

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<v Speaker 1>when he was like, it's gonna be so cool. We're

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<v Speaker 1>going to get to see each other. And this other

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<v Speaker 1>mom was like, I'm so glad that they like school.

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<v Speaker 1>They do like school except every day when I picked

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<v Speaker 1>them up again, they're so tired and then they just

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<v Speaker 1>lie to your face and everything was bad today. I

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<v Speaker 1>hate everyone. I'm never doing anything ever again. Did brind

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<v Speaker 1>go to nature class this week? Because he supposed I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't ask him about it, but theoretic he did not

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<v Speaker 1>go to cooking glass um. But he was very weirdly,

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<v Speaker 1>so daylight savings has happened, as you may recall, and

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<v Speaker 1>the means uh, in the morning, when I take them

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<v Speaker 1>super early to the car, the sun was up, whereas

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<v Speaker 1>it was not up the week before. Brendan may Haven noticed,

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<v Speaker 1>that's interesting. When I picked him up it was dark

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<v Speaker 1>where it was not last week. And Brenn thought that

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<v Speaker 1>was incredible. It's dark and it was super dark when

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<v Speaker 1>you pick him up at five. And he said, goes, Daddy,

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<v Speaker 1>do me a favor and tell Maven when we go

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<v Speaker 1>pick her up that you love picking me up when

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<v Speaker 1>the sun is down. And I go, okay, sounds great.

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<v Speaker 1>Then we picked up Maven, and of course I forgot

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<v Speaker 1>about it because it was a very weird request request.

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<v Speaker 1>And then then really got upset because you didn't tell her.

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<v Speaker 1>I go, what you didn't tell her about the secret?

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<v Speaker 1>I had no idea what he's talking about. And then

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<v Speaker 1>finally he had to like whisper to me. He goes,

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<v Speaker 1>do you love picking me up in the dark? And

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<v Speaker 1>he was like on the verge of tears and then

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<v Speaker 1>I told you, hey, Maven, you know I love picking

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<v Speaker 1>up breaking bread in the dark, and the Brin just

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<v Speaker 1>started laughing hysterically. Mission accomplished. They both keep getting caught

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<v Speaker 1>up in some incredibly dumb logic where they'll start arguing

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<v Speaker 1>with each other and then they both lost the thread

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<v Speaker 1>that but they just keep responding to each other and

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<v Speaker 1>they're like trying to win. They're like, no, octopuses don't

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<v Speaker 1>do that, and like maybe it's like in tears and

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<v Speaker 1>then they're just like, I don't dream of octopus. I don't. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just it's fun. It's fun, fun arguments we're having.

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<v Speaker 1>I've I'm learning the to just not engage. Britton goes,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna make up new rules. Okay, whoever, I eni

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<v Speaker 1>MENI mini mo, they're gonna be the winner. Well, brand

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<v Speaker 1>is classic you. He's like, oh, yeah, we can do

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<v Speaker 1>this as long as I'm in charge. And I tell

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<v Speaker 1>you that I get to have all the best stuff. Yep. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>Last thing. I'll talk about it tomorrow. Slash Today, when

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<v Speaker 1>this episode comes out, is election day. And I explained

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<v Speaker 1>to Bryan what an election is and he understood it.

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<v Speaker 1>I used to for example, our town because I found

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<v Speaker 1>there was a flyer for UM candidate running for mayor.

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<v Speaker 1>So I kept talking about, you know, as an example,

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<v Speaker 1>running for mayor, and he goes, are people going to

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<v Speaker 1>vote for you? Daddy? I'm like, Wow, probably not. He's like,

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<v Speaker 1>why you should be? I want you to be mayor.

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<v Speaker 1>I will vote for you. And I explain I was like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>brand if I if I am the mayor, I can't

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<v Speaker 1>be a story part anymore, so I'd have to quit

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<v Speaker 1>that job and I have to run the town. And

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<v Speaker 1>he goes, Daddy, I still want you to be mayor,

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<v Speaker 1>so please, if you please vote for Peter tomorrow right,

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<v Speaker 1>and Peter McNerney in whatever local election. Yeah, he'll take

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<v Speaker 1>any city or town. Yeah, I'll run it if I'm

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<v Speaker 1>eligible and I have the majority of the votes. Another

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<v Speaker 1>weird thing our kids have gleaned from this Charlie Brown

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<v Speaker 1>movie is that they go off in corners and they're

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<v Speaker 1>talking to themselves sometimes in and maybe it'll be like

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<v Speaker 1>you sign the contract, and then they'll they'll just parrot

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<v Speaker 1>things that they've heard on TV, where you're like, you

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<v Speaker 1>don't know what that means? What do you? Yeah? It

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<v Speaker 1>just makes me realize how many things you know but

0:19:09.400 --> 0:19:14.080
<v Speaker 1>you you you don't know when you actually actually understood

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<v Speaker 1>what it was, but you've known it, you know, when

0:19:17.040 --> 0:19:24.400
<v Speaker 1>you oh something one of those things where you've never

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<v Speaker 1>stopped and actually thought about what the words themselves mean

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<v Speaker 1>because it's just a phrase or something you've known your

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<v Speaker 1>whole life. Are you going somewhere with no end of segment?

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<v Speaker 1>And now it's time for my headphone cable to get tangled.

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<v Speaker 1>And now it's time for a segment called did you notice?

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<v Speaker 1>This is where we share something we learned that's parenting related. Beth,

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<v Speaker 1>my love? What do you got? Thank you? My love? Um? Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So I just wanted to share this blog post that

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<v Speaker 1>um some moms I know we're sharing around this week.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'll be honest, I did not research the heavily,

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<v Speaker 1>so I don't have a lot of context thing of it.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's from a website called Graham Seabrook dot com

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<v Speaker 1>and it's a blog post from this woman who is

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<v Speaker 1>a mom coach, and it says an open letter to

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<v Speaker 1>straight married dad's from a mom coach. And she started

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<v Speaker 1>it by asking why are you here? Are you here

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<v Speaker 1>to raise your family? And partnership with someone you love.

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<v Speaker 1>And then she goes on and sort of asks these

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<v Speaker 1>dads a series of questions like who is your child's pediatrician, dentist, optometrists,

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<v Speaker 1>what are the names of your kids two best friends?

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<v Speaker 1>And sort of like how many times a week does

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<v Speaker 1>laundry need to be done in your house? Etcetera, and

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<v Speaker 1>just sort of she sort of questions the usefulness of

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<v Speaker 1>heterosexual male partners in a way that, um, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>necessarily think applies to you, but I think very relevant.

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<v Speaker 1>I think was resonating very hard with women in different

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<v Speaker 1>mom groups. I'm in um um. But let me get

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<v Speaker 1>to the end here. She says, Uh, parenting is not

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<v Speaker 1>a spectator sport, and far too many of the mothers

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<v Speaker 1>that coach tell me how much easier it is when

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<v Speaker 1>their partners aren't home, because at least then there's no

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<v Speaker 1>expectation that this time he'll do something to lift the load.

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<v Speaker 1>If what you bring to your household is a paycheck,

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<v Speaker 1>then why are you there. You don't have to live

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<v Speaker 1>there to support them financially. Are you coming home dumping

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<v Speaker 1>your feelings about your day on your partner, sitting down

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<v Speaker 1>to a table to eat and then moving on with

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<v Speaker 1>your night. You just missed about a million steps, my dude,

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<v Speaker 1>and honestly, I'm done. I'm over it, and I've had

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<v Speaker 1>it up to hear with meeting brilliant, caring, thoughtful mothers

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<v Speaker 1>who are working to heal their traumas to give their

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<v Speaker 1>children happy and healthy childhoods, and who keep running into

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<v Speaker 1>a brick wall of husbands or partners who think that's

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<v Speaker 1>simply because they're doing more than their dads did, their

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<v Speaker 1>heroes more than five percent is only. Parenting is complicated, exhausting, labor, intensive, logical, emotional,

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<v Speaker 1>mental work. Holding onto your personhood as a mother in

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<v Speaker 1>today's world is all of that and more so. Dad's

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<v Speaker 1>my question is why are you here? And she goes

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<v Speaker 1>on anyway, Um, I just started reading this article as

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<v Speaker 1>you were sharing it, and you should. Obviously everyone's situation

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<v Speaker 1>is different, but just starting to read these questions, uh um,

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<v Speaker 1>really makes its point quite clearly. Can I read some

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<v Speaker 1>of these questions? Go for it? Um? Okay, So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>this is a good thing to ask yourself. What are

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<v Speaker 1>the names of the people who care for and or

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<v Speaker 1>teach your children? What are their school policies? How long

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<v Speaker 1>does your kid need to be fever free before they

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<v Speaker 1>can go back to school. Who is your child's pediatrician?

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<v Speaker 1>Where they located? What is there, what are their hours?

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<v Speaker 1>What is their phone number? Does your child like them? Dentist? Optometrist?

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<v Speaker 1>What are the names of your two kids two best friends?

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<v Speaker 1>What are their parents names? What size of clothes and

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<v Speaker 1>shoes to your kids wear? Where where do you usually

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<v Speaker 1>buy them? Where are your kids were? What are your

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<v Speaker 1>kids worried about right now? What are they excited about,

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<v Speaker 1>what are they scared of? What do they want most?

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<v Speaker 1>Who do they love? Um? How many times a week

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<v Speaker 1>does laundry need to be done? It's you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>child care is not always uh shared equally amongst parents,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's part of the deal that different couples make

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<v Speaker 1>in terms of who's working and who's not. But by

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<v Speaker 1>reading this list of questions, I thought was a really

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<v Speaker 1>uh simple, brilliant way of painting a picture of what

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<v Speaker 1>um a person is doing all day to take care

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<v Speaker 1>of children, you know what I mean? And also I

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to take that quiz because I could answer every

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<v Speaker 1>single one of those questions, every single one of them. Well,

0:24:20.400 --> 0:24:25.840
<v Speaker 1>they don't have optometrists, but every single one I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if you like, I don't know if you would

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<v Speaker 1>get on this quiz, ask me, I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>you get a percent on this quiz. That's true, but

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<v Speaker 1>I like you. Okay, how many loads of laundry need

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<v Speaker 1>to be done per week? Need to? I mean, if

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<v Speaker 1>we're doing it right, we do. This is the thing

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<v Speaker 1>whenever like a mental load thing comes up that you're

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<v Speaker 1>unaware of, you like hetero specual men trying to paint

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<v Speaker 1>a picture of women as being like obsessive about it

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<v Speaker 1>for knowing what needs to get that like if you're

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<v Speaker 1>accumulating a certain amount of laundry pool needs to get

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<v Speaker 1>done at some point, Like sure, sure, but I mean

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<v Speaker 1>if if if we're doing it as much as like

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<v Speaker 1>a part of a nice red of the routine, it's

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<v Speaker 1>like four times a week, but you could wait a

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<v Speaker 1>little longer and do two overly big loads. Okay, But

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<v Speaker 1>like this is how you are with like baths and

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of things where it's like fine, I'll let

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<v Speaker 1>it slide because you're more on top of other day

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<v Speaker 1>to day things. But like the thing is, it's like

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<v Speaker 1>the weeks where I'm not on top of it. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like I go to me and our kid at his

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<v Speaker 1>school on Halloween, and he's in a costume getting sweaty,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, this kid smells. This is a stinky kid.

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<v Speaker 1>Because you know, I'm the only parent who is paying

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<v Speaker 1>attention to how much this kid smells. I'm paying attention.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't. I hate I hate baths and I hate laundry.

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<v Speaker 1>I hate I hate that time. I don't know why

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<v Speaker 1>I gave them a bath tonight, because boy, they were stinky.

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<v Speaker 1>I did it, but you're right I do. But also,

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<v Speaker 1>like you know, I think we we have we have

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<v Speaker 1>those things. For you, it's trash and dishes. I do

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<v Speaker 1>more of those, and your's is laundry and baths, and

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<v Speaker 1>we both make an effort on the opposite ones that

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<v Speaker 1>we don't do as much. But you put dishes in

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<v Speaker 1>the dishwasher. I heard them into the kitchen from your desk,

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<v Speaker 1>and like living room, in the bedroom and the table.

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<v Speaker 1>I think we're definitely, we're definitely equal. But you have

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<v Speaker 1>pointed out the things that I'm weak as that. But

0:26:42.320 --> 0:26:44.840
<v Speaker 1>I don't take out the trash. That's one thing I

0:26:44.880 --> 0:26:49.840
<v Speaker 1>don't do. You literally never do. But that's fine. I

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<v Speaker 1>know that, and I take pride. I'm I'm the trash guy.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm really good at it. I'm great. It's separating recycling. Wow, congratulations,

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<v Speaker 1>Um yeah um, but yeah. I think the difference is

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<v Speaker 1>when as a woman, I think I'm much more likely

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<v Speaker 1>to know the areas where I'm weaker in, whereas I

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<v Speaker 1>think you, yes, I believe that the areas that you're

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<v Speaker 1>not doing are either not important or not happening. It's

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<v Speaker 1>you're just completely like associated from Because I have learned

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<v Speaker 1>so many things, I've become aware of so many things

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<v Speaker 1>that I was blind to before. I one, I'm like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I see so much more than I ever did before.

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<v Speaker 1>So I accept the idea that there will always be

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<v Speaker 1>something else that I just can't see right now. That's

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<v Speaker 1>why everyone should always if you feel like you're doing

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<v Speaker 1>seven percent, you're hope you're maybe doing fifty. Um. I

0:27:57.240 --> 0:28:00.960
<v Speaker 1>subscribe to that more than I ever have before. But

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<v Speaker 1>I think the thing that's great about this blog post

0:28:05.840 --> 0:28:09.560
<v Speaker 1>is exactly that is, you read all those questions and

0:28:09.640 --> 0:28:13.920
<v Speaker 1>you're suddenly shedding light on things that you just might

0:28:14.119 --> 0:28:16.920
<v Speaker 1>not be thinking about. You look at all the work

0:28:17.040 --> 0:28:20.639
<v Speaker 1>that's going on. That's that's you're aware of. And you go, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm crushing it. I'm doing all this stuff, but read

0:28:24.080 --> 0:28:27.320
<v Speaker 1>this super long list of all these little details, and

0:28:27.320 --> 0:28:31.480
<v Speaker 1>then it's it's like it just shines lights in these

0:28:31.520 --> 0:28:34.960
<v Speaker 1>areas you didn't even know where there. Maybe, And even

0:28:35.000 --> 0:28:41.560
<v Speaker 1>if your duties within a couple are distributed differently and

0:28:41.600 --> 0:28:45.280
<v Speaker 1>it's not doing the exact same things, being aware of

0:28:45.320 --> 0:28:51.800
<v Speaker 1>what your partner is doing is the is incredibly healthy.

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<v Speaker 1>Incredibly healthy. Um yeah, I just think I know that

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<v Speaker 1>you're doing a lot of day to day stuff. I

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<v Speaker 1>just still think there's like big picture stuff that I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like I feel obligated to be tuned into that

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think you always are. And I'm not saying

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<v Speaker 1>I'm shouldering all of that, but like, like, for example,

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<v Speaker 1>this weekend, like when I left the kids with you

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<v Speaker 1>to do work and stuff, I feel like you were

0:29:30.200 --> 0:29:32.680
<v Speaker 1>at your computer most of the time while they were

0:29:33.040 --> 0:29:35.920
<v Speaker 1>just getting more and more stir crazy. And then when

0:29:35.920 --> 0:29:38.200
<v Speaker 1>I get home, I have to like clean and deal

0:29:38.240 --> 0:29:42.800
<v Speaker 1>with them and make sure they get outside and make

0:29:42.800 --> 0:29:45.600
<v Speaker 1>sure laundry is done for the weekend, and then like

0:29:46.040 --> 0:29:48.840
<v Speaker 1>realize that Brian's shoes are falling apart and he needs

0:29:48.840 --> 0:29:52.360
<v Speaker 1>new sneakers, and like there's just like all those little

0:29:52.360 --> 0:29:54.960
<v Speaker 1>things that you're like, Okay, it's a weeknda have to

0:29:54.960 --> 0:29:56.640
<v Speaker 1>make the most of it and like make sure these

0:29:56.720 --> 0:30:01.800
<v Speaker 1>things are running smoothly going into the week. Like I don't.

0:30:03.280 --> 0:30:05.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm not like, you do do a lot of stuff.

0:30:05.240 --> 0:30:08.400
<v Speaker 1>So I'm not saying you do nothing, obviously, but there

0:30:08.440 --> 0:30:11.719
<v Speaker 1>as is stuff like that where I'm just like, I

0:30:11.760 --> 0:30:15.160
<v Speaker 1>don't always know how bad these things would get without

0:30:15.200 --> 0:30:23.360
<v Speaker 1>you realizing. Well, those are great examples of where you know,

0:30:23.440 --> 0:30:25.880
<v Speaker 1>the shoe falls apart, and then I'm like, well, time

0:30:25.920 --> 0:30:29.080
<v Speaker 1>to get new shoes, and you're looking ahead on those

0:30:29.080 --> 0:30:34.280
<v Speaker 1>things I know that I am better at. But there's

0:30:34.320 --> 0:30:36.640
<v Speaker 1>also a little like quality of light things where I'm like,

0:30:36.840 --> 0:30:40.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying I'm a hero, but like every day

0:30:40.480 --> 0:30:44.560
<v Speaker 1>I make sure that like the blinds and like curtains

0:30:44.560 --> 0:30:46.880
<v Speaker 1>are opened in our homes so we get natural light

0:30:46.920 --> 0:30:49.800
<v Speaker 1>coming in the way human beings are meant to live.

0:30:49.960 --> 0:30:52.800
<v Speaker 1>And I you know, the only the only reason I

0:30:52.840 --> 0:30:56.320
<v Speaker 1>opened the curtains is because I'm like, oh, Beth will

0:30:56.360 --> 0:31:00.520
<v Speaker 1>come in here and not want to see this. I

0:31:00.600 --> 0:31:02.440
<v Speaker 1>do it for you if I do it at all.

0:31:03.400 --> 0:31:05.600
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, but where I am stronger where I am better?

0:31:06.000 --> 0:31:08.120
<v Speaker 1>Is that like I'm going to pay all of our bills,

0:31:08.200 --> 0:31:09.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to take the car, and I'm going to

0:31:10.000 --> 0:31:14.760
<v Speaker 1>make sure the doctor appointments made. Your way of interacting

0:31:14.800 --> 0:31:18.040
<v Speaker 1>with it is so funny to me because like you

0:31:18.400 --> 0:31:21.400
<v Speaker 1>like you know the doctor's name, you know where he is,

0:31:21.600 --> 0:31:24.200
<v Speaker 1>you know when the doctor year, the appointment needs to happen.

0:31:24.840 --> 0:31:27.760
<v Speaker 1>If our kids were getting sick, I don't know that

0:31:27.800 --> 0:31:31.360
<v Speaker 1>you would be like, oh, maybe they should stay home,

0:31:31.440 --> 0:31:33.680
<v Speaker 1>or maybe I should call the doctor and ask about this,

0:31:33.920 --> 0:31:36.440
<v Speaker 1>or you like, what are you talking about? That's what

0:31:36.560 --> 0:31:40.920
<v Speaker 1>I do. That's my job when they're sick. Yeah, who

0:31:40.960 --> 0:31:43.480
<v Speaker 1>takes into urgent care every time? It takes the daughter

0:31:43.520 --> 0:31:46.120
<v Speaker 1>I've got. I'm the one who saved an old doctor's

0:31:46.120 --> 0:31:48.920
<v Speaker 1>note on my computer. Is like I'm not talking about

0:31:48.920 --> 0:31:50.840
<v Speaker 1>when you try to drop them off a daycare and

0:31:50.880 --> 0:31:53.560
<v Speaker 1>then daycare rejects them and says, these kids are too sick.

0:31:53.600 --> 0:31:56.480
<v Speaker 1>You need to go get it. I know this is

0:31:56.560 --> 0:32:01.120
<v Speaker 1>you're talking about me. That doesn't exist anymore because you

0:32:01.560 --> 0:32:06.720
<v Speaker 1>under the school sick policies, Beth, what are the schools sick? Yes?

0:32:06.920 --> 0:32:09.520
<v Speaker 1>When can you take your kids back to school. I

0:32:09.600 --> 0:32:11.720
<v Speaker 1>know how it is for daycare. It's usually twenty four

0:32:11.760 --> 0:32:15.600
<v Speaker 1>hours without a fever. That's not what it is at daycare. Okay,

0:32:15.640 --> 0:32:18.280
<v Speaker 1>what is it. It's much stricter than that. That is

0:32:18.320 --> 0:32:20.200
<v Speaker 1>what it is for school. You can't take them back

0:32:20.240 --> 0:32:22.680
<v Speaker 1>and if it's been twenty since they've thrown up or

0:32:22.680 --> 0:32:25.280
<v Speaker 1>had a fever, and in daycare it's you could never

0:32:25.360 --> 0:32:28.600
<v Speaker 1>take them back ever until they've had twelve doctors appointments,

0:32:28.720 --> 0:32:33.080
<v Speaker 1>and twelve doctors until they had a second opinion. And okay,

0:32:33.120 --> 0:32:35.880
<v Speaker 1>so you are reinforcing. My appointment is that you know

0:32:36.160 --> 0:32:38.640
<v Speaker 1>when people are forcing you to take your kids to

0:32:38.640 --> 0:32:42.360
<v Speaker 1>the doctor. I know what the policy I'm talking about.

0:32:42.440 --> 0:32:45.160
<v Speaker 1>You know the policy, you know the names I'm talking about.

0:32:45.280 --> 0:32:48.360
<v Speaker 1>I agree, And I am the one who will wake

0:32:48.440 --> 0:32:50.200
<v Speaker 1>up in the morning, look at my kids and say,

0:32:50.880 --> 0:32:52.760
<v Speaker 1>this is a kid who cannot go to school today.

0:32:53.000 --> 0:33:01.640
<v Speaker 1>You are right, you know what I I will find.

0:33:01.680 --> 0:33:03.320
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, how do I just how do you just

0:33:03.360 --> 0:33:08.320
<v Speaker 1>get through this moment? It's fine, it's fine to a fault,

0:33:09.080 --> 0:33:11.160
<v Speaker 1>but boy, I know all the details. I know all

0:33:11.200 --> 0:33:13.360
<v Speaker 1>the factors, I know all the rules, I know where

0:33:13.360 --> 0:33:19.200
<v Speaker 1>we're going. I just I'm not not so worried. I'm

0:33:19.200 --> 0:33:24.960
<v Speaker 1>not as worried as maybe I should be. Okay, well, um,

0:33:25.000 --> 0:33:28.640
<v Speaker 1>I think we complement each other. Well, yeah, I'm not

0:33:28.680 --> 0:33:31.560
<v Speaker 1>saying those things are not valuable. I'm just saying I

0:33:31.680 --> 0:33:35.760
<v Speaker 1>just it's not the whole picture of what needs to

0:33:35.800 --> 0:33:39.720
<v Speaker 1>get done. Someone needs to sniff the air and be like,

0:33:40.040 --> 0:33:44.000
<v Speaker 1>this apartment is rancid, These children are rancid. Someone needs

0:33:44.040 --> 0:33:48.200
<v Speaker 1>to sniff a butt and realize that button needs a tub.

0:33:49.920 --> 0:33:53.520
<v Speaker 1>You know what you were at a very smart idea,

0:33:53.680 --> 0:33:56.760
<v Speaker 1>and this illustrates your point. I think, Well, is that

0:33:56.800 --> 0:34:00.640
<v Speaker 1>you texted me or something about them needing to take

0:34:00.640 --> 0:34:03.240
<v Speaker 1>a bath, and you said, we also need to clean

0:34:03.280 --> 0:34:05.200
<v Speaker 1>out those cupboards. So when do you take one of

0:34:05.240 --> 0:34:08.520
<v Speaker 1>those bath bombs to get them to get into the tub.

0:34:08.920 --> 0:34:11.120
<v Speaker 1>You know what, Brenda wouldn't get in the tub, and

0:34:11.160 --> 0:34:13.200
<v Speaker 1>I threw a bath bomb in there and he then

0:34:13.200 --> 0:34:16.360
<v Speaker 1>he wanted to get in the tub. Yeah, that's because

0:34:16.440 --> 0:34:19.520
<v Speaker 1>big picture. I'm like, Okay, dear Lord, I have to

0:34:19.560 --> 0:34:22.360
<v Speaker 1>renovate this bathroom. I'm gonna have to take that cabinet

0:34:22.480 --> 0:34:24.319
<v Speaker 1>of the bathroom. I had to do X, Y Z

0:34:24.640 --> 0:34:27.680
<v Speaker 1>ten million other things. That cabinet needs to be cleaned out.

0:34:28.320 --> 0:34:30.800
<v Speaker 1>There's a bunch of bath bombs in there for some reason.

0:34:31.200 --> 0:34:35.000
<v Speaker 1>I all, my kid needs to bathe. My my brain

0:34:35.480 --> 0:34:43.360
<v Speaker 1>is like a serial killer's wall map of like trying

0:34:43.360 --> 0:34:49.720
<v Speaker 1>to keep my children alive, and my brain is I'm

0:34:49.760 --> 0:34:52.879
<v Speaker 1>I'm just looking at the current pin on the wall map,

0:34:53.400 --> 0:34:55.920
<v Speaker 1>and then I go, oh, there's a red string, and

0:34:55.960 --> 0:34:58.160
<v Speaker 1>I just started following the red string. I go, there's

0:34:58.160 --> 0:35:01.839
<v Speaker 1>another pushpin. I'm gonna follow this red string. You're You're

0:35:01.880 --> 0:35:04.160
<v Speaker 1>like a boomer who just figured out how to drop

0:35:04.200 --> 0:35:12.640
<v Speaker 1>a pan on Google map. Oh take that, boomers. Uh yeah,

0:35:12.680 --> 0:35:16.440
<v Speaker 1>I need I do. I definitely need to step back

0:35:16.880 --> 0:35:20.320
<v Speaker 1>um away from my corkboard in my dimly lit garage

0:35:20.560 --> 0:35:23.200
<v Speaker 1>to take a look at the big map and not

0:35:23.320 --> 0:35:29.640
<v Speaker 1>just look at the pushpins. It's a shockingly good metaphor.

0:35:34.000 --> 0:35:48.719
<v Speaker 1>Oh boy, this has been Did you notice now it's

0:35:48.760 --> 0:35:52.880
<v Speaker 1>time for listeners want to knows? So last week um,

0:35:52.920 --> 0:35:57.440
<v Speaker 1>a listener wrote in asking for recommendations of books where

0:35:57.480 --> 0:36:04.120
<v Speaker 1>sort of gender roles were reversed. Specifically, she mentioned wanting

0:36:04.920 --> 0:36:12.040
<v Speaker 1>stories about basically girls who misbehave um and boys who

0:36:12.760 --> 0:36:18.160
<v Speaker 1>carry the emotional labor, and we were unrecommended, not very

0:36:18.160 --> 0:36:20.719
<v Speaker 1>good recommendations. But luckily you guys wrote in with some

0:36:20.800 --> 0:36:26.040
<v Speaker 1>more delivered. Um. So one message I got from an

0:36:26.600 --> 0:36:33.799
<v Speaker 1>Instagram message says, um, they recommended the book called Marlene Marline,

0:36:33.960 --> 0:36:36.640
<v Speaker 1>the Queen of Mean. She says, it's a library book

0:36:36.680 --> 0:36:39.320
<v Speaker 1>my daughter brought home about a girl who is the bully.

0:36:40.040 --> 0:36:42.120
<v Speaker 1>If a female instead of a male bully doesn't break

0:36:42.160 --> 0:36:46.640
<v Speaker 1>gender stereotype, maybe I don't understand the concept. That's what

0:36:49.320 --> 0:36:51.280
<v Speaker 1>I think she understood the conpt. I think she understood

0:36:51.280 --> 0:36:57.399
<v Speaker 1>the concept. That's great, I got. I got a bunch

0:36:57.520 --> 0:37:01.440
<v Speaker 1>right here. Um. Someone wrote in. This is from Della.

0:37:02.440 --> 0:37:04.919
<v Speaker 1>She said, listen to your podcasts where a listener asked

0:37:04.920 --> 0:37:09.000
<v Speaker 1>about some good books for challenging traditional gender roles, and

0:37:09.440 --> 0:37:11.480
<v Speaker 1>she cited a list that she found from the New

0:37:11.560 --> 0:37:14.239
<v Speaker 1>York Times. My kiddos only only twenty months old, so

0:37:14.280 --> 0:37:15.800
<v Speaker 1>I can't speak for everything on the list, but I

0:37:15.880 --> 0:37:19.799
<v Speaker 1>checked out a bunch and my little one, uh and

0:37:19.880 --> 0:37:23.600
<v Speaker 1>myself really enjoyed them. My faiths were Frannie's father is

0:37:23.640 --> 0:37:26.200
<v Speaker 1>a feminist. Shows a little girl who likes to be

0:37:26.239 --> 0:37:28.640
<v Speaker 1>a messy and dirty sometimes and her dad who takes

0:37:28.719 --> 0:37:32.240
<v Speaker 1>on some of the traditional women's roles and Teddy's favorite

0:37:32.320 --> 0:37:35.359
<v Speaker 1>toy about a little boy who loves a doll and

0:37:35.440 --> 0:37:41.160
<v Speaker 1>is pretty superhero esque. Mom My kiddo's faiths were Shark Lady.

0:37:41.360 --> 0:37:45.359
<v Speaker 1>Maybe he just liked the sharks. And Julian is a Mermaid. Oh,

0:37:45.480 --> 0:37:47.600
<v Speaker 1>we just got Julian Is a Mermaid, which I read

0:37:47.600 --> 0:37:50.560
<v Speaker 1>this last night. I have to say, the illustrations in

0:37:50.600 --> 0:37:53.520
<v Speaker 1>this book, as someone who is an illustration major who

0:37:53.560 --> 0:37:58.800
<v Speaker 1>for two semesters took children's book illustration classes, the illustrations

0:37:58.840 --> 0:38:03.279
<v Speaker 1>in Julian Is ammer made are incredible. Um. And they

0:38:03.320 --> 0:38:07.880
<v Speaker 1>also sort of they reference like the Brooklyn Mermaid Parade,

0:38:08.120 --> 0:38:11.400
<v Speaker 1>So it felt I don't know, it feels very reminiscent

0:38:11.400 --> 0:38:14.600
<v Speaker 1>of my college experience in a way that warmed my heart. Um.

0:38:14.640 --> 0:38:17.200
<v Speaker 1>But it's it's really beautiful, I will say. In terms

0:38:17.200 --> 0:38:20.960
<v Speaker 1>of reading it, there's pages without words, so you do

0:38:21.080 --> 0:38:25.239
<v Speaker 1>have to kind of like explain what's happening on the page. Well,

0:38:25.280 --> 0:38:29.680
<v Speaker 1>you know what I did, is um Normally I do that.

0:38:29.719 --> 0:38:32.960
<v Speaker 1>I explain everything. I over explain. Yeah, you love to

0:38:33.040 --> 0:38:38.439
<v Speaker 1>never stop talking. I love to explain, but I didn't.

0:38:38.480 --> 0:38:41.800
<v Speaker 1>I just turn the page and I sat there quietly

0:38:41.880 --> 0:38:45.000
<v Speaker 1>and I let them absorb each page, and I saw

0:38:45.080 --> 0:38:49.080
<v Speaker 1>them really looking and listening and thinking until they started

0:38:49.160 --> 0:38:52.000
<v Speaker 1>chiming up about things. Well, I will say, what's cool

0:38:52.160 --> 0:38:54.280
<v Speaker 1>about this book is, like we've talked in the podcast

0:38:54.320 --> 0:38:57.080
<v Speaker 1>sort of about like books that deal with sex and

0:38:57.160 --> 0:39:02.840
<v Speaker 1>gender and different issues. And one of my peppies about

0:39:02.840 --> 0:39:05.399
<v Speaker 1>this type of progressive books is sometimes you get ones

0:39:05.440 --> 0:39:10.240
<v Speaker 1>that are too didactic or like like trying to force

0:39:10.640 --> 0:39:15.000
<v Speaker 1>lessons down your throat too literally, and that the beautiful

0:39:15.040 --> 0:39:17.640
<v Speaker 1>thing about Jillian is a mermaid, which has no words

0:39:17.640 --> 0:39:21.760
<v Speaker 1>on some pages, as like you're watching this young boy

0:39:22.280 --> 0:39:25.360
<v Speaker 1>sort of like fall in love with these mermaids and

0:39:25.400 --> 0:39:28.080
<v Speaker 1>then sort of put on this costume. And it's very

0:39:28.160 --> 0:39:34.520
<v Speaker 1>ambiguous as to this kid's gender representation or sexuality or whatever,

0:39:34.600 --> 0:39:37.719
<v Speaker 1>but it's just this kid. It's this kid's joy for

0:39:38.120 --> 0:39:42.920
<v Speaker 1>those mermaids. Like it's great in his dreaming of himself.

0:39:43.280 --> 0:39:46.520
<v Speaker 1>There's those pages where he's on the train or whatever

0:39:46.800 --> 0:39:49.560
<v Speaker 1>and he sees these women dresses mermaids. Then you see

0:39:49.640 --> 0:39:53.200
<v Speaker 1>him thinking, and then there's illustration of him step by

0:39:53.239 --> 0:39:57.800
<v Speaker 1>step morphing into a mermaid, and then they see and

0:39:58.080 --> 0:40:03.720
<v Speaker 1>he's underwater as this beautiful mermaid with long hair and

0:40:03.719 --> 0:40:05.880
<v Speaker 1>and they don't spell it out like, oh, this is

0:40:05.920 --> 0:40:08.520
<v Speaker 1>a boy who wants to be a girl. No, it's

0:40:08.560 --> 0:40:14.799
<v Speaker 1>not that specific. Uh, it's exactly that. It's just this

0:40:14.880 --> 0:40:19.319
<v Speaker 1>kid exploring his love of being. There's no there's no

0:40:19.480 --> 0:40:23.600
<v Speaker 1>lecture to the book. It's beautiful and you know what's cool,

0:40:23.640 --> 0:40:27.120
<v Speaker 1>It's like, um, Britain has been asked mentioned for a

0:40:27.160 --> 0:40:28.960
<v Speaker 1>couple of months now the idea that he for some

0:40:29.000 --> 0:40:33.240
<v Speaker 1>reason he wants purple sneakers, and only in the context

0:40:33.239 --> 0:40:35.760
<v Speaker 1>of the sneaker discussion does he claim that his favorite

0:40:35.760 --> 0:40:39.759
<v Speaker 1>color is purple in my experienced before. No, but so

0:40:39.840 --> 0:40:41.640
<v Speaker 1>it's like, I don't really know if that's true or

0:40:41.640 --> 0:40:43.880
<v Speaker 1>he's just saying that. But then I talked about getting

0:40:43.920 --> 0:40:46.040
<v Speaker 1>him any per sneakers because his they're falling apart. And

0:40:46.080 --> 0:40:48.799
<v Speaker 1>then he said again, then he wanted purple sneakers. So

0:40:48.920 --> 0:40:52.440
<v Speaker 1>we went to the toyster in town that sells sneakers,

0:40:52.480 --> 0:40:54.240
<v Speaker 1>which was closed, and then we went across the street

0:40:54.280 --> 0:40:56.759
<v Speaker 1>to this other store and they measured his feet, which

0:40:56.760 --> 0:40:58.120
<v Speaker 1>is cool. And then we looked at the sneakers on

0:40:58.160 --> 0:41:01.359
<v Speaker 1>the wall and there was some bully sneakers, but they

0:41:01.400 --> 0:41:05.080
<v Speaker 1>were clearly girls. Where they were like pinky purple whatever,

0:41:05.800 --> 0:41:08.080
<v Speaker 1>and I was like, it was one of those weird

0:41:08.120 --> 0:41:09.799
<v Speaker 1>things where you're like, well, I want to get him

0:41:09.840 --> 0:41:11.239
<v Speaker 1>what he wants, but I want to make sure he

0:41:11.320 --> 0:41:13.920
<v Speaker 1>really wants it and he's going to be comfortable wearing it.

0:41:14.480 --> 0:41:17.840
<v Speaker 1>And so he pointed at one that was like it

0:41:17.960 --> 0:41:20.080
<v Speaker 1>was just a really pale purple, whereas like, I don't

0:41:20.200 --> 0:41:21.520
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if this is really what you want.

0:41:21.520 --> 0:41:23.040
<v Speaker 1>But I was like, I'm going to support this. So

0:41:23.040 --> 0:41:25.440
<v Speaker 1>I asked them to look for the size, and then

0:41:25.480 --> 0:41:27.799
<v Speaker 1>I took I took him down. I was like, I

0:41:27.840 --> 0:41:29.520
<v Speaker 1>just wanted to be real because I don't want to

0:41:29.520 --> 0:41:31.200
<v Speaker 1>pay for a pair of sneakers he's not gonna wear.

0:41:31.600 --> 0:41:34.880
<v Speaker 1>I was like, okay, Bryn, if you like these sneakers,

0:41:35.360 --> 0:41:38.239
<v Speaker 1>I will get them for you, but I just want

0:41:38.280 --> 0:41:40.680
<v Speaker 1>you to know if you could wear these schools, some

0:41:40.760 --> 0:41:42.680
<v Speaker 1>kids might call them girly, and I just want to

0:41:42.680 --> 0:41:44.279
<v Speaker 1>make sure you're still gonna want to wear them even

0:41:44.320 --> 0:41:48.000
<v Speaker 1>if people say that. And he said yeah, and then

0:41:48.040 --> 0:41:50.000
<v Speaker 1>they went to gether sneakers, and then they didn't have

0:41:50.160 --> 0:41:51.799
<v Speaker 1>his size and that pair of sneakers, and then he

0:41:51.840 --> 0:41:54.360
<v Speaker 1>got really bored of being in the sneaker store and

0:41:54.400 --> 0:41:55.759
<v Speaker 1>we left and I was like, well, now I know

0:41:55.800 --> 0:41:59.120
<v Speaker 1>his sneakers, isn't gonna order him other purple sneakers, So

0:41:59.160 --> 0:42:03.160
<v Speaker 1>I got him some purple high tops that feel fairly

0:42:03.560 --> 0:42:07.319
<v Speaker 1>gender ambiguous to me. But I was like, not that

0:42:07.360 --> 0:42:09.600
<v Speaker 1>it really matters what he wanted. But I don't actually

0:42:09.640 --> 0:42:12.760
<v Speaker 1>don't think from past experience that he's like super comfortable

0:42:12.760 --> 0:42:19.600
<v Speaker 1>with other kids commenting on his appearance. What are yeah?

0:42:19.800 --> 0:42:23.120
<v Speaker 1>And well, it's just I don't know. It's more I

0:42:23.160 --> 0:42:26.520
<v Speaker 1>think what I am sensitive to for some weird reason

0:42:26.640 --> 0:42:30.640
<v Speaker 1>is like I it's it's like an aesthetic thing. And

0:42:30.680 --> 0:42:33.799
<v Speaker 1>again I went to art school. I love all the colors.

0:42:34.080 --> 0:42:37.000
<v Speaker 1>There's something about when things get like glitter e and

0:42:37.080 --> 0:42:42.040
<v Speaker 1>girly where I it doesn't appeal to me personally. And

0:42:42.080 --> 0:42:49.040
<v Speaker 1>then if I don't know, I just my own hang up. Um,

0:42:49.920 --> 0:42:52.680
<v Speaker 1>I have that too, But I figured it was it

0:42:52.840 --> 0:42:56.040
<v Speaker 1>was some sort of gendered thing in my brain. But

0:42:56.480 --> 0:43:02.000
<v Speaker 1>until Maven, who's like, I love glittery pink. I love

0:43:02.120 --> 0:43:05.760
<v Speaker 1>her love of it because it is so deep and true,

0:43:05.960 --> 0:43:08.239
<v Speaker 1>whereas brand one day saying I love purple, I'm like,

0:43:08.440 --> 0:43:12.080
<v Speaker 1>since when I like her love of it? But I

0:43:12.160 --> 0:43:14.799
<v Speaker 1>just think there's something in my brain that loves like

0:43:15.760 --> 0:43:20.000
<v Speaker 1>saturated colors, which is kind of like not I don't

0:43:20.040 --> 0:43:25.360
<v Speaker 1>like like pale pastel, like I want like a bold

0:43:25.520 --> 0:43:29.640
<v Speaker 1>version of the color. Every apartment we've lived in, the

0:43:29.760 --> 0:43:34.320
<v Speaker 1>colors on the walls have gotten more pastel because we've

0:43:34.360 --> 0:43:37.920
<v Speaker 1>you've we've started bold, and they've just come down a bit.

0:43:37.960 --> 0:43:40.719
<v Speaker 1>But we still have bold colors. And I love it

0:43:40.960 --> 0:43:45.600
<v Speaker 1>and I love you. This email goes on. You guys

0:43:45.920 --> 0:43:49.560
<v Speaker 1>discussed gender a lot, which I really appreciate. The book

0:43:49.560 --> 0:43:52.360
<v Speaker 1>I read a while back was quite interesting parenting beyond

0:43:52.520 --> 0:43:55.680
<v Speaker 1>pink and blue. Wow, just like what we're talking about.

0:43:56.080 --> 0:43:59.440
<v Speaker 1>Have you read it? Nope? I thought it was fascinating.

0:43:59.520 --> 0:44:02.520
<v Speaker 1>Some take ways for me were one, how often we

0:44:02.600 --> 0:44:06.440
<v Speaker 1>say things that subconsciously enforced gender grouping. The book quotes

0:44:06.480 --> 0:44:09.880
<v Speaker 1>studies that talk about how kids will strongly identify with

0:44:10.000 --> 0:44:12.800
<v Speaker 1>any group they are put in, and we as adults

0:44:12.880 --> 0:44:16.560
<v Speaker 1>constantly categorized boys and girls in our language. I'm a teacher,

0:44:16.600 --> 0:44:19.600
<v Speaker 1>so this was very applicable to me. Things like girls

0:44:19.680 --> 0:44:23.319
<v Speaker 1>came here, etcetera. Also language like wow, you're getting to

0:44:23.360 --> 0:44:26.640
<v Speaker 1>be such a big boy. Why not insert kid instead?

0:44:27.200 --> 0:44:32.800
<v Speaker 1>To the automatic default to he when describing unknown gendered animals.

0:44:33.440 --> 0:44:35.279
<v Speaker 1>I think about this stuff a lot and have done

0:44:35.320 --> 0:44:38.120
<v Speaker 1>a lot of things to avoid gender stereotypes from my kiddos.

0:44:38.520 --> 0:44:42.479
<v Speaker 1>For example, um era as i e. We found out

0:44:42.800 --> 0:44:45.440
<v Speaker 1>the gender before birth, but didn't tell anyone so that

0:44:45.520 --> 0:44:48.840
<v Speaker 1>any gift we received wouldn't be gendered. Try that everyone

0:44:48.920 --> 0:44:52.000
<v Speaker 1>hates you for it. I was shocked when I realized

0:44:52.040 --> 0:44:57.080
<v Speaker 1>how often I defaulted to the pronoun he when describing things.

0:44:57.560 --> 0:45:00.600
<v Speaker 1>Oh look at that bear? What color is he? What's

0:45:00.600 --> 0:45:04.080
<v Speaker 1>your stuff? What's your stuffed horse? Can you bring him here?

0:45:04.719 --> 0:45:07.640
<v Speaker 1>I've tried to be better, but it has been hard. Anyway,

0:45:07.640 --> 0:45:11.040
<v Speaker 1>the book explains a lot more eloquently than I just did,

0:45:11.200 --> 0:45:15.720
<v Speaker 1>and back stuff up with research. One last question, quite aware.

0:45:16.040 --> 0:45:18.880
<v Speaker 1>Quite a while back you had a list on the

0:45:18.920 --> 0:45:22.239
<v Speaker 1>podcasts of books for young kids that deal with sexuality

0:45:22.320 --> 0:45:25.239
<v Speaker 1>changing bodies. I can't remember which it was. Do you

0:45:25.280 --> 0:45:28.320
<v Speaker 1>have a written list somewhere or maybe you can remember

0:45:28.320 --> 0:45:32.920
<v Speaker 1>which podcast was? Thanks? I flipp and love your podcast, Adela.

0:45:34.920 --> 0:45:38.400
<v Speaker 1>I've been thinking about all of those things, Della. In

0:45:38.480 --> 0:45:43.799
<v Speaker 1>terms of the default pronoun of he, specifically for animals,

0:45:43.960 --> 0:45:46.759
<v Speaker 1>I've noticed hard to break out of that. We're all

0:45:46.800 --> 0:45:49.759
<v Speaker 1>programmed to do it. I mean, we're all programmed to

0:45:49.800 --> 0:45:51.239
<v Speaker 1>do a lot of things. One thing I think me

0:45:51.440 --> 0:45:52.960
<v Speaker 1>and a lot of people I know lately have been

0:45:53.000 --> 0:45:57.759
<v Speaker 1>trying to do stop calling things crazy or insane. Like

0:45:58.600 --> 0:46:01.320
<v Speaker 1>it's just really hard to get work. Like you stop

0:46:01.440 --> 0:46:06.640
<v Speaker 1>using certain words in your vocabulary that you're used to using.

0:46:06.760 --> 0:46:13.040
<v Speaker 1>You know, um, it's working in story part says um.

0:46:13.160 --> 0:46:17.080
<v Speaker 1>But has forced me to word like that crazy and insane.

0:46:17.480 --> 0:46:20.200
<v Speaker 1>I've noticed when I'm telling them bedtime stories at night,

0:46:20.239 --> 0:46:22.640
<v Speaker 1>because we always kind of come up with an animal

0:46:22.719 --> 0:46:25.560
<v Speaker 1>or creature or something and then we'll say, you know,

0:46:25.680 --> 0:46:28.680
<v Speaker 1>we'll start telling a story with that, and like, my

0:46:28.760 --> 0:46:33.680
<v Speaker 1>impulse to label it as a male is really strong. Yes,

0:46:34.080 --> 0:46:38.239
<v Speaker 1>I've I've first story times, we make up stories. I've

0:46:38.280 --> 0:46:42.960
<v Speaker 1>been trying to default to she. Of course it doesn't

0:46:43.040 --> 0:46:45.960
<v Speaker 1>have that much so at best time, I'm going fifty

0:46:47.840 --> 0:46:53.040
<v Speaker 1>um at best at best but yeah, but we're going

0:46:53.120 --> 0:46:56.319
<v Speaker 1>to get our numbers up though. It's so hard not

0:46:56.400 --> 0:47:00.480
<v Speaker 1>to be like those here's my big girl, who is

0:47:00.520 --> 0:47:04.000
<v Speaker 1>my little girl? My girl? Why can't you say a girl?

0:47:04.600 --> 0:47:06.920
<v Speaker 1>I mean, just the these weird there are I do

0:47:07.000 --> 0:47:08.680
<v Speaker 1>have the thought I think it's fine to be like,

0:47:08.680 --> 0:47:12.040
<v Speaker 1>you're such a big boy, but there is something you

0:47:12.080 --> 0:47:15.400
<v Speaker 1>are separating our I feel like i'm word, I'm separating

0:47:15.440 --> 0:47:19.760
<v Speaker 1>our two kids by continuing to define them by their gender.

0:47:20.000 --> 0:47:22.400
<v Speaker 1>I definitely worry about that, and I do think it

0:47:22.480 --> 0:47:26.120
<v Speaker 1>is like it's worth watching out for, like where that

0:47:26.160 --> 0:47:29.240
<v Speaker 1>creeps into our expectation of their behavior. But I also

0:47:29.320 --> 0:47:34.680
<v Speaker 1>think there's a lot of moments lately where like, especially

0:47:34.719 --> 0:47:39.480
<v Speaker 1>with Mayven, she she's really loving being a girl right now,

0:47:39.680 --> 0:47:42.160
<v Speaker 1>and I don't want to take that away from her.

0:47:42.800 --> 0:47:47.719
<v Speaker 1>I want her to if like if that's if she

0:47:47.840 --> 0:47:50.760
<v Speaker 1>continues to identify as a girl, like she should love

0:47:51.080 --> 0:47:57.440
<v Speaker 1>being a girl, Like why you know what I mean, Like, um, yeah, yeah,

0:47:57.520 --> 0:48:02.560
<v Speaker 1>there's it's really easy to fall into these the sort

0:48:02.560 --> 0:48:06.360
<v Speaker 1>of absolute isms, Um, when you're trying to do the

0:48:06.440 --> 0:48:11.080
<v Speaker 1>right thing. Um well, I think also, here's the thing.

0:48:11.200 --> 0:48:15.919
<v Speaker 1>It's like, you know, there's nature and nurture, and you're

0:48:15.960 --> 0:48:21.799
<v Speaker 1>never going to create the best conditions for anything, and

0:48:21.880 --> 0:48:23.960
<v Speaker 1>it doesn't really matter at the end of the day,

0:48:23.960 --> 0:48:28.120
<v Speaker 1>because we're all unique individuals who are made up of

0:48:28.760 --> 0:48:31.400
<v Speaker 1>a combination of nature and nurture. And what's sort of

0:48:31.440 --> 0:48:37.319
<v Speaker 1>beautiful about it is, you know, these varying environments we've

0:48:37.360 --> 0:48:42.680
<v Speaker 1>all lived in our own weird crock pot of identities.

0:48:42.800 --> 0:48:47.280
<v Speaker 1>So like when Mayven goes to daycare and she's around

0:48:47.400 --> 0:48:51.520
<v Speaker 1>a lot of little girls, and the women who are

0:48:51.560 --> 0:48:56.279
<v Speaker 1>in the daycare are Spanish speaking women who mostly don't

0:48:56.320 --> 0:49:00.400
<v Speaker 1>speak much English. I do think there is a tendency

0:49:00.600 --> 0:49:03.920
<v Speaker 1>of them in general to like glorify kind of like

0:49:04.000 --> 0:49:07.080
<v Speaker 1>girly things, and I wouldn't be surprised if that's rubbed

0:49:07.120 --> 0:49:09.680
<v Speaker 1>off on Maven a little bit. But I also think

0:49:09.760 --> 0:49:12.799
<v Speaker 1>Maven just has a tendency to like those things. So

0:49:12.840 --> 0:49:16.440
<v Speaker 1>I think she's just you know, yes, it's reinforcing it

0:49:16.480 --> 0:49:21.279
<v Speaker 1>a little bit more than maybe necessary, but like it's

0:49:22.440 --> 0:49:27.000
<v Speaker 1>I think she's enjoying it. She's feeling like she's loving herself,

0:49:27.040 --> 0:49:30.359
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean. Like it's not well, there's

0:49:30.400 --> 0:49:33.840
<v Speaker 1>this thing. This actually is applicable to a text exchange

0:49:33.840 --> 0:49:37.239
<v Speaker 1>ahead with my little brother today where I don't know

0:49:37.280 --> 0:49:39.840
<v Speaker 1>why I was thinking of this, but he he's the

0:49:39.960 --> 0:49:47.399
<v Speaker 1>behavioral science science writer and neuroscience and and so knows

0:49:47.440 --> 0:49:49.839
<v Speaker 1>a lot about this stuff. I texted him, I said,

0:49:49.960 --> 0:49:53.320
<v Speaker 1>is there a word for when people react? To learning

0:49:53.360 --> 0:49:56.120
<v Speaker 1>that something they thought was a hard and fast rule

0:49:56.880 --> 0:50:01.200
<v Speaker 1>isn't entirely true. For example, some facts have unintended side

0:50:01.200 --> 0:50:06.240
<v Speaker 1>effects by completely turning on the entire concept, for example,

0:50:06.280 --> 0:50:09.960
<v Speaker 1>anti vaxers, and then I said, also, how's your baby?

0:50:10.400 --> 0:50:13.480
<v Speaker 1>He said, good. Question sounds like the version of the

0:50:13.520 --> 0:50:18.280
<v Speaker 1>base rate fallacy. So the fallacy is that people ignore

0:50:18.320 --> 0:50:21.319
<v Speaker 1>the fact that the vast majorities of vaccines do not

0:50:21.400 --> 0:50:25.000
<v Speaker 1>have unintended side effects, that's the base rate, and instead

0:50:25.040 --> 0:50:28.800
<v Speaker 1>focused on a specific piece of information. My point being

0:50:29.120 --> 0:50:33.000
<v Speaker 1>a lot of times when people realize, you know, things

0:50:33.040 --> 0:50:37.320
<v Speaker 1>like oh, gender norms are create to this negative side effect,

0:50:37.640 --> 0:50:41.200
<v Speaker 1>and you realize that, oh, there's there's these negative things

0:50:41.400 --> 0:50:48.840
<v Speaker 1>to go let's reject all of it a thousand percent um.

0:50:48.280 --> 0:50:51.279
<v Speaker 1>I've I've realized that a lot of those things I've

0:50:51.320 --> 0:50:54.960
<v Speaker 1>gone too far in some respects where I realized, like, oh, there,

0:50:55.520 --> 0:51:01.200
<v Speaker 1>for some kids like Maven, this is naturally what they

0:51:01.200 --> 0:51:04.200
<v Speaker 1>are drawn to, and there's there is a truth, and

0:51:04.239 --> 0:51:08.239
<v Speaker 1>there is a nuance two gender norms that they're attached

0:51:08.280 --> 0:51:12.000
<v Speaker 1>to some real things many times, and it's it's it's

0:51:12.040 --> 0:51:15.560
<v Speaker 1>of course always far more complicated nuance than these sort

0:51:15.560 --> 0:51:18.960
<v Speaker 1>of like absolute stances. Well, I think this kind of

0:51:19.000 --> 0:51:25.560
<v Speaker 1>creeps into like our discussions of privilege sometimes, where like you,

0:51:25.560 --> 0:51:28.239
<v Speaker 1>you know, we'll have different people who are privileged for

0:51:28.360 --> 0:51:35.120
<v Speaker 1>various reasons race, gender, economics, and like you sometimes sometimes

0:51:35.160 --> 0:51:38.359
<v Speaker 1>like people just to get a really funny example, so like,

0:51:38.520 --> 0:51:42.439
<v Speaker 1>sometimes people have a privilege that we all deserve to have,

0:51:43.200 --> 0:51:45.239
<v Speaker 1>but we don't feel like we deserve to have it

0:51:45.239 --> 0:51:48.239
<v Speaker 1>because we're so used to not having it. And sometimes

0:51:48.360 --> 0:51:51.680
<v Speaker 1>people have a privilege that no one should have, but

0:51:51.840 --> 0:51:54.359
<v Speaker 1>because we're so caught up in this rat race of

0:51:54.400 --> 0:51:58.520
<v Speaker 1>trying to have what other people are having, we instead

0:51:58.520 --> 0:52:00.440
<v Speaker 1>of realizing that no one should be able allowed to

0:52:00.480 --> 0:52:04.680
<v Speaker 1>do that, we are mad that we don't have that.

0:52:05.640 --> 0:52:08.680
<v Speaker 1>So like I was, like, these are kind of weird

0:52:08.920 --> 0:52:11.560
<v Speaker 1>just conversations I have with like cab drivers and lift

0:52:11.640 --> 0:52:14.360
<v Speaker 1>drivers where I'll feel like we're on the same page

0:52:14.400 --> 0:52:17.479
<v Speaker 1>of like wanting things to be better for the world

0:52:17.560 --> 0:52:20.759
<v Speaker 1>at large. And like I had a lift driver the

0:52:20.760 --> 0:52:24.319
<v Speaker 1>other day who like this, this car drove by us,

0:52:24.400 --> 0:52:27.520
<v Speaker 1>like really erratically and fast on the west side Highway

0:52:27.560 --> 0:52:30.879
<v Speaker 1>and cut us off and whatever, and we both were

0:52:30.920 --> 0:52:34.200
<v Speaker 1>just like, oh my god, like that's crazy, and I

0:52:34.280 --> 0:52:37.360
<v Speaker 1>assumed we're both mad because this car could hurt someone

0:52:37.640 --> 0:52:41.359
<v Speaker 1>and you know, kill someone. And my lift driver was like,

0:52:42.400 --> 0:52:44.919
<v Speaker 1>if I drive like that, I would get pulled over.

0:52:45.520 --> 0:52:47.400
<v Speaker 1>Like like he was like, I can't get away with

0:52:47.480 --> 0:52:50.680
<v Speaker 1>driving like that, Like he was mad that he can't

0:52:50.680 --> 0:52:54.880
<v Speaker 1>do that. And this is like I think, where sometimes

0:52:55.040 --> 0:52:57.920
<v Speaker 1>we make the conversation much cloudier than it needs to

0:52:57.960 --> 0:53:01.920
<v Speaker 1>be because when you when we lose our focus on

0:53:01.960 --> 0:53:04.360
<v Speaker 1>what's important, which is like in my mind, like you know,

0:53:04.440 --> 0:53:08.359
<v Speaker 1>basic things like everyone should have housing, healthcare, um, a

0:53:08.400 --> 0:53:12.600
<v Speaker 1>living wage, Like you know, we get we get thrown

0:53:12.600 --> 0:53:15.520
<v Speaker 1>off because we're we get caught up in these like

0:53:15.640 --> 0:53:21.000
<v Speaker 1>side discussions of like well, who's allowed to sleep with

0:53:21.040 --> 0:53:24.399
<v Speaker 1>their staff? And like you know, like it's just like,

0:53:25.160 --> 0:53:27.600
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, it just gets off track, That's what

0:53:27.640 --> 0:53:32.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying. I see what you're saying. I was like

0:53:33.360 --> 0:53:35.799
<v Speaker 1>during that, I was like, oh, oh are we going

0:53:35.880 --> 0:53:39.440
<v Speaker 1>this way with it? Like oh, okay, all right, I

0:53:39.440 --> 0:53:45.799
<v Speaker 1>got it, But I like, I don't know. I think

0:53:45.800 --> 0:53:49.840
<v Speaker 1>we make we we find this like one fault in

0:53:49.880 --> 0:53:52.920
<v Speaker 1>the system, and then we try to we try to

0:53:52.960 --> 0:53:57.919
<v Speaker 1>make it broad sweeping statements about it that should not apply. Yeah,

0:53:57.960 --> 0:54:03.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm just very attracted these days to nuance, you know,

0:54:03.760 --> 0:54:06.480
<v Speaker 1>not the Internet and the way it's set up a

0:54:06.480 --> 0:54:09.120
<v Speaker 1>lot of the time where you know, especially if you're

0:54:09.160 --> 0:54:12.120
<v Speaker 1>in your your Twitter bubble or whatever in Facebook and

0:54:12.160 --> 0:54:15.000
<v Speaker 1>you're like, look at this thing, this thing is false.

0:54:15.440 --> 0:54:19.040
<v Speaker 1>Let's reject the entire system instead of going, oh, that

0:54:19.200 --> 0:54:23.440
<v Speaker 1>is an interesting example, Let's get into the bigger picture,

0:54:23.480 --> 0:54:27.840
<v Speaker 1>you know, get out of your bubble, read some dry research,

0:54:28.080 --> 0:54:31.440
<v Speaker 1>learn about it, and go to the boring stuff, because

0:54:31.480 --> 0:54:37.640
<v Speaker 1>that's where things, the practical world stuff read the read

0:54:37.719 --> 0:54:41.160
<v Speaker 1>the raw transcript. Well, there was a really good quote

0:54:41.560 --> 0:54:44.279
<v Speaker 1>um from Barack Obama this week where he was sort

0:54:44.320 --> 0:54:48.520
<v Speaker 1>of talking about like this sort of like woke culture,

0:54:48.520 --> 0:54:50.680
<v Speaker 1>which I don't even really think he's not really talking

0:54:50.680 --> 0:54:53.600
<v Speaker 1>about being woke so much as like people who are

0:54:53.680 --> 0:54:56.759
<v Speaker 1>really reactionary about it. But like he's talking about how

0:54:56.800 --> 0:55:00.439
<v Speaker 1>like everyone's like looking to call each other out these days,

0:55:00.520 --> 0:55:02.920
<v Speaker 1>you're slipping up or whatever, and he's sort of like,

0:55:03.320 --> 0:55:06.799
<v Speaker 1>if all you're doing out there is casting stones, then

0:55:06.840 --> 0:55:09.919
<v Speaker 1>you're not helping, Like you're not. There's so many other

0:55:10.000 --> 0:55:13.840
<v Speaker 1>things you could do to actually right these wrongs or

0:55:13.920 --> 0:55:17.239
<v Speaker 1>like try to fight inequality or what other rather like

0:55:17.280 --> 0:55:20.640
<v Speaker 1>And I don't think he is saying like you can

0:55:20.680 --> 0:55:24.719
<v Speaker 1>never comment on things blah, you know, Like but if

0:55:24.719 --> 0:55:28.359
<v Speaker 1>that's your only focus, like is to try to make

0:55:28.400 --> 0:55:31.080
<v Speaker 1>yourself feel important by trying to call other people out,

0:55:31.080 --> 0:55:34.560
<v Speaker 1>then like that's probably not really helping. It's like having

0:55:34.600 --> 0:55:37.520
<v Speaker 1>a again. It's like having a fight on Twitter. We're like, hey,

0:55:37.640 --> 0:55:41.200
<v Speaker 1>here's a here's a real thought, and someone like, you know,

0:55:41.520 --> 0:55:46.319
<v Speaker 1>in a hundred characters, fuck this, Oh great? Are we

0:55:46.360 --> 0:55:51.000
<v Speaker 1>having a conversation just absolutely bad or absolutely yeah? And

0:55:51.040 --> 0:55:54.319
<v Speaker 1>it's kind of like when there's important stuff happening, like

0:55:54.480 --> 0:55:56.759
<v Speaker 1>you know, the presidential election and stuff, which I think

0:55:57.800 --> 0:56:02.080
<v Speaker 1>in we should know more than ever is like kind

0:56:02.080 --> 0:56:06.640
<v Speaker 1>of an important thing um that affects people's lives. If

0:56:06.719 --> 0:56:10.839
<v Speaker 1>people are going into that discussion and their only perspective

0:56:10.960 --> 0:56:13.960
<v Speaker 1>is to try to like criticize candidates and never put

0:56:14.000 --> 0:56:17.480
<v Speaker 1>themselves out there and support anyone or any idea or anything,

0:56:18.600 --> 0:56:27.359
<v Speaker 1>then you're not helping anyone, you know. Do you do you? All? Right?

0:56:27.920 --> 0:56:29.239
<v Speaker 1>What are you going to say? Do you want to

0:56:29.320 --> 0:56:33.320
<v Speaker 1>endorse the candidate? Say do your homework, getting into the

0:56:33.360 --> 0:56:38.240
<v Speaker 1>boring stuff, reading the boring articles, alright, we're past timing.

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<v Speaker 1>We have so many more recommendations. We're gonna have to

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<v Speaker 1>do it next week. We're going to make a list

0:56:43.440 --> 0:56:45.520
<v Speaker 1>of all the recommendations for books that you send in

0:56:46.960 --> 0:56:49.399
<v Speaker 1>to prepare the next time. If you've got more, send

0:56:49.440 --> 0:56:52.239
<v Speaker 1>him in. You guys are great. This has been another

0:56:52.280 --> 0:56:54.440
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