WEBVTT - Making Marriage Work with Jacqie Rivera and Mike Campos

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<v Speaker 1>Through marriage. Now that in your second marriage, your new marriage,

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<v Speaker 1>what are the like, the best advice that you can

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<v Speaker 1>give us that are trying to make things work.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's definitely communication, but more communication when you

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<v Speaker 2>don't feel like it.

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<v Speaker 3>I used to be the one that would criticize the

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<v Speaker 3>stay at whole month. I'll be honest, and I've been

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<v Speaker 3>doing it for about a year and I'm just like, no, honestly,

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<v Speaker 3>my respects. You start at six am and you don't

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<v Speaker 3>stop till eight nine o'clock at night, and you don't

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<v Speaker 3>get paid for this, dude.

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<v Speaker 1>Hello you guys, and welcome to season three of Cheeky's

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<v Speaker 1>and Chill in our brand new set. You guys right up,

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<v Speaker 1>applause for that. I'm so excited. This is our very

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<v Speaker 1>first episode and I am grateful when I have like

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<v Speaker 1>little cards of that we are elevating this so to

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<v Speaker 1>start this very first episode the third season, thanks to

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<v Speaker 1>you guys, To all the listeners, thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 1>I have a very special actually two very special guests.

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<v Speaker 1>One of them have been on the pod before. She

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<v Speaker 1>is a entrepreneur, she is a singer, she is a

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<v Speaker 1>CEO a very important company. She's a mommy, she's a wife,

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<v Speaker 1>and she's my sister, Jacqueline, Jacqueline rivera compos and her husband,

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<v Speaker 1>Mike compos You guys, a round of applause for them.

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<v Speaker 1>Everyone at home clap too. And I'm just kidding. Just

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<v Speaker 1>be careful. But anyways, you guys, thank you so much

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<v Speaker 1>for coming, Thank you for staying here.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, the colors are warm, right, very cute. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>exactly because you guys actually we're talking about this and

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<v Speaker 1>and thank you because I wanted it to be very

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<v Speaker 1>warm and homey and for it to give you like

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<v Speaker 1>a nice little just warm hub. Yes, and talking about that,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a few things that I'm going to talk to

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<v Speaker 1>my sister, sure and Mike about. I call Mike my

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<v Speaker 1>bro or you know, that's my homie. But I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to talk too much about a certain subject about

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<v Speaker 1>their relationship because, as many of you may know, or

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<v Speaker 1>maybe you don't know, Jackie and Mike, you guys have

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<v Speaker 1>been married for how long, eleven years in total, eleven

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<v Speaker 1>years in total. They just got remarried. They just renewed

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<v Speaker 1>their vowels and that was beautiful. I have to I

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<v Speaker 1>have to say, you guys have had a blast ethnic wedding.

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<v Speaker 4>Sister, your speech was amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>Really, I don't remember. I was. I was a little buzzed,

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<v Speaker 1>but it was so funny because let me, can I

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<v Speaker 1>be honest, the first wedding it was. I was like, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>let me tell you, guys. The first wedding there was

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<v Speaker 1>no alcohol. No, there was only Christian.

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<v Speaker 4>We got married on Wednesday.

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<v Speaker 1>They got married on a Wednesday. My mom and I.

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<v Speaker 1>I think stuff was getting a little weird between my

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<v Speaker 1>mom and I then, so it was the tension was weird. Anyways, Fine,

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<v Speaker 1>it was, it was great, but this one was so

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<v Speaker 1>much better.

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<v Speaker 4>And I mean it was. It's very completely different.

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<v Speaker 1>I did.

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<v Speaker 4>Like an alto.

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<v Speaker 1>So is it safe to say that you guys were

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<v Speaker 1>more religious back then? Yes? And the mindset by the rules,

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<v Speaker 1>living by the rules, which is there's a difference between

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<v Speaker 1>like religion and being a person of faith. Yes, right,

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<v Speaker 1>relations explained that real quick. I don't know who wants

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<v Speaker 1>to go first, but you guys.

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<v Speaker 3>Well very you know. I'll let Jackie explain it more

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<v Speaker 3>in details. But back then it was more taught if

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<v Speaker 3>you act a certain way out like if I look

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<v Speaker 3>better outside outwardly, then then that makes you a good Christian.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's why our first wedding you can kind of

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<v Speaker 3>see there was a lot of like, let's make sure

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<v Speaker 3>it looks good. But then at that time I didn't

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<v Speaker 3>know what was more important was the inside.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, the relationship exactly, which I see a huge

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<v Speaker 1>difference in you, Mike in so many different ways, you guys,

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<v Speaker 1>because we're going to talk a little bit. And again,

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<v Speaker 1>the whole point that I was saying was we can't

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<v Speaker 1>talk too much. We don't want to talk too much

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<v Speaker 1>about the depth of the relationship because they've gone through

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<v Speaker 1>a lot and they got remarried and they're just two

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<v Speaker 1>completely different people. Their relationship is completely different. Because Mike,

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<v Speaker 1>my brother in law here, is going to come out

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<v Speaker 1>with his own actually already came out with his own podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>His podcast is called what is it called? I want

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<v Speaker 1>him to introduce it.

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<v Speaker 3>It's embarrassing to be proud. Well, in the process, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>working in my own self confidence and stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 3>But it's actually going to be called the Mac effect.

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<v Speaker 1>So the Mac effect, you guys. So I think I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's awesome, but it's also because those are your initials.

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<v Speaker 3>Those are my initials.

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<v Speaker 4>Because he's a mac.

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<v Speaker 1>Daddy, but he ain't no mac daddy, Okay, And then

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<v Speaker 1>what are you going to talk about on that podcast?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, the purpose for it at first, because I already

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<v Speaker 3>have I actually sat down with my wife and I

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<v Speaker 3>asked for her help as far as you know, helped

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<v Speaker 3>me how to schedule the first season. So I already

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<v Speaker 3>have the first ten episodes as far as what we're

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<v Speaker 3>going to discuss. But the purpose of it is to

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<v Speaker 3>help other men. I really want to help men because

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like we don't get that help. Like it's

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<v Speaker 3>not easy for a man to say, hey, you know what,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm struggling in my marriage or I'm struggling.

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<v Speaker 1>As a man, especially as latinos han. Yeah, I'm a cheesemoll.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a little bit of yeah pride.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh and I'm still going through it now. So that's

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<v Speaker 3>kind of the purpose. And then if it branches off

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<v Speaker 3>to other stuff, you know, for marriages and things like that,

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<v Speaker 3>then let's go for it, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>And yeah, you guys are going to talk about all

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<v Speaker 1>the because there were so many things that were said

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<v Speaker 1>and not even said but made up too about your guys'

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<v Speaker 1>relationship and just a lot of stuff. I'm shure, you

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<v Speaker 1>guys are going to talk about that, which I think

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<v Speaker 1>is super cool because you it should come out of

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<v Speaker 1>you guys, and this is your relationship and you guys

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<v Speaker 1>should do it together, which I think is awesome. So

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<v Speaker 1>congratulations on that, bro. I think that's awesome. I think

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<v Speaker 1>that that's what I do here on the podcast. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>very honest and about everything, and that's the only way

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<v Speaker 1>is to change lives is if we're honest and well

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<v Speaker 1>exactly being vulnerable. There's so much power and being vulnerable.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think that that's great, especially being a voice

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<v Speaker 1>for Latino men in general. I mean there, I think

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<v Speaker 1>we there's so many taboos, you know, and all this stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>So so I think that's great. I wish you the

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<v Speaker 1>very best, and maybe one day I can go on

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<v Speaker 1>your podcast.

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<v Speaker 3>Dude, Yeah for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, well, all right, we're gonna go to mac Daddy's.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, not mac Daddy's, the Mac Effect. Okay. So

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even know. I didn't really have too much

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<v Speaker 1>planned as to what we wanted to talk about, because

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<v Speaker 1>there's so much to talk about. I do want to

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<v Speaker 1>kind of and I'm glad that that Mike is here

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<v Speaker 1>because we've had, we've been on the on the podcast,

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<v Speaker 1>and we've talked about different things, even on Janica's podcast

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<v Speaker 1>over Comfort You guys check those episodes out as well,

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<v Speaker 1>because we had very deep conversations on there as well.

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<v Speaker 1>I know. Anyways, we're such cribaby and media always says,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I was like, you and Jackie are like

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<v Speaker 1>like so much alike. It's crazy. We're like goofy and

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<v Speaker 1>silly and like.

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<v Speaker 4>The voice everything everything is true.

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<v Speaker 1>So this is you, guys. Raised Yeah, So okay, So

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to talk to you about first of all,

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<v Speaker 1>the mom makeover okay, which I was there. Yes, I

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<v Speaker 1>helped out, but I have to tell you guys, and

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<v Speaker 1>I said this on Thanksgiving again, I was drinking the case.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't remember too, but it was awesome because I've

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<v Speaker 1>seen the change in your guys' relationship and in both

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<v Speaker 1>of you, but I got to experience it firsthand being

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<v Speaker 1>there helping take care of you. Yeah, and I love

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<v Speaker 1>that he was like this is my wife. Like he

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<v Speaker 1>was like on it, you know what I mean, And

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<v Speaker 1>like even the first day you're like, I respected like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>do you need me there? The very first day you're

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<v Speaker 1>like okay, no, like I think it's it was beautiful.

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<v Speaker 1>But anyways, I got there helping her out. But dude,

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<v Speaker 1>let me tell you, guys, the patience of this man

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<v Speaker 1>that I was, like, whoa asked that melanim It gives

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<v Speaker 1>me emotional because it gets me emotional because he was

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<v Speaker 1>very different. And he'll tell you guys about this on

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<v Speaker 1>his podcast. He's going to be like, but he was

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<v Speaker 1>very different. I mean even you sister were very pa

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<v Speaker 1>You're very different. Now it's I see it. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>very strong relationship. But the fact that he was taking

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<v Speaker 1>care of my sister and was wiping her booty and everything,

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<v Speaker 1>like was patient to I don't know how this guy

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<v Speaker 1>did it. I don't know how he did it because

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<v Speaker 1>he would wake up and take the kids to school

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<v Speaker 1>and and he would make them their their pack, their

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<v Speaker 1>lunch and the breakfast and take some and then come

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<v Speaker 1>back and pick up the other one and then take

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<v Speaker 1>care of my sister. And it was just I'm glad

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<v Speaker 1>of that Janica and I because it wasn't just me.

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<v Speaker 1>Janica also helped out that you freaking were there, dude,

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<v Speaker 1>and the way that you're loving my sister, like I

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<v Speaker 1>can tell you that I'm so grateful that you guys

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<v Speaker 1>have stayed together and have four beautiful children, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm very proud of you guys. I have to

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<v Speaker 1>say it. And what I said on Thanksgiving, and I

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<v Speaker 1>don't really remember what it was, but I know it

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<v Speaker 1>was about your relationship. But like this guy and I

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<v Speaker 1>was crying.

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<v Speaker 4>I think, I think you're really grateful for him.

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<v Speaker 1>People. I'm grateful for you to. I'm grateful for you,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm proud of where you guys have come and

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<v Speaker 1>how long you guys and how hard you guys have

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<v Speaker 1>both worked for this relationship and you guys, you guys

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<v Speaker 1>have Can I say who your therapists are? Your counselors? Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>because Tanya, who's also been on the podcast, you guys.

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<v Speaker 1>I met Tanya because of my sister and Tanya, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think I kind of touched on it a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>So my sister gave me five sessions to Tanya for

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<v Speaker 1>Christmas and was it a Christmas for my birthday? Was

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<v Speaker 1>my birthday? One of the best gifts ever, you guys,

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<v Speaker 1>And from there developed we had like a like I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>she's helped me out so much with so many things,

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<v Speaker 1>and now she is also and Rudy is now Tanya's

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<v Speaker 1>husband is also now a medial s life coach, so

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<v Speaker 1>it's going to be. They did a whole two hour

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<v Speaker 1>session the other day. He came to dude, I'm blown away.

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<v Speaker 3>I am mentor.

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<v Speaker 1>He's your mentor. Yeah, so that's who helped you, guys

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<v Speaker 1>your relationship. Right.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, first, Tanya was his therapist before I started going.

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<v Speaker 3>I started going. We were separated because I you, I

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<v Speaker 3>needed the help, so I started going to Tanya before

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<v Speaker 3>and then uh, and it was just crazy, like Tanya

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<v Speaker 3>really blessed me because her testimony is insane. And then uh,

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<v Speaker 3>and then I don't know, out of the boose, I

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<v Speaker 3>convinced her again to give you another shot. And while

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<v Speaker 3>we were talking, I said, well, I told her like, hey,

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<v Speaker 3>if we're going to try this again, like we're going

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<v Speaker 3>to do things differently, which is we're definitely getting counseling,

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<v Speaker 3>like we're not doing this alone. And those were some sessions.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, dude, so it came from you. I didn't know this.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>See you guys, Okay, see like there's I'm a I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a huge advocate for for for therapy. You guys, I

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<v Speaker 1>always say so thanks to Mike, he's the one that

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<v Speaker 1>introduced us to Tany. They're amazing breath of a breath

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<v Speaker 1>of breath of breath of life. You guys, so if

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<v Speaker 1>you want to check them out, But okay, so that's

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<v Speaker 1>awesome and you guys still go with them. Yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's I think it's do you think like it's in

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<v Speaker 1>life thing that that well we're gonna need.

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<v Speaker 2>I think definitely, just because we have different seasons in

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<v Speaker 2>our life. I mean there's different curve balls that life

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<v Speaker 2>throws at us, and you you just need that sounding

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<v Speaker 2>board to get it all off.

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<v Speaker 4>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>Sometimes you're gonna feel really amazing. Sometimes you're just gonna

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<v Speaker 2>be like, no, I need to go back, And there's

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<v Speaker 2>nothing wrong with that. Yeah, It's not like you get

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<v Speaker 2>better and then that's it.

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<v Speaker 4>You're good for life.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I feel it's kind of like a like a

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<v Speaker 1>like a car. We need a sign change, we need

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<v Speaker 1>to fine tuning exactly because I think for sure it's

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<v Speaker 1>something that I want to do for the rest of

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<v Speaker 1>my life. And now you know it's premarital counseling that

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<v Speaker 1>I there are things that you know, I'm realizing and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not perfect right. You know, I thought I was okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So it's like, okay, Emilio's so patient. He's just so different.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you should have them on your podcast too,

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<v Speaker 1>that would be awesome, so you guys would talk about

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<v Speaker 1>that would be cool. How is the relationship now that

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<v Speaker 1>you're CEO, Like, has it been Has it been tough? Honestly?

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<v Speaker 2>I think, I mean, I think there's moments that make

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<v Speaker 2>it tough.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm CEO of January Enterprises by the way, just

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<v Speaker 1>in case anyone doesn't know that's our mom anyways.

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<v Speaker 2>I think there's moments that are tough just because I'm

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<v Speaker 2>I'm totally like not Mike is taking care of the home,

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<v Speaker 2>so there's growth that he.

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<v Speaker 4>Had to learn, and then there I had to let

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<v Speaker 4>go in order for me to take care of Jerry.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's a lot of checking in and when we

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<v Speaker 2>got to talk, and sometimes being intentional about having those

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<v Speaker 2>meetings is the tough part. Like it takes a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of intentionality because we can get a disconnect and you

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<v Speaker 2>don't want that. I don't want to get into a

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<v Speaker 2>routine and then check out of my home because I'm

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<v Speaker 2>trying to take care of this.

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<v Speaker 1>So you're being smart.

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<v Speaker 4>There's a lot of intentionality that's needed.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So when you say take care of the home, like,

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<v Speaker 1>what do you mean? Like he I saw it, So

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<v Speaker 1>I mean he you take.

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<v Speaker 4>Care of everything he does. He's significed a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And that's what I wanted to ask you, because again,

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<v Speaker 1>being a Latino man, how is that?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, there's and I'll go more into depth, you know

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<v Speaker 3>some other time, either here mine or it doesn't matter.

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<v Speaker 3>But what's crazy is just that you know, there's there's

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<v Speaker 3>past trauma that we're still living through or we were

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<v Speaker 3>living through. So just to kind of give a little

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<v Speaker 3>bit of an example in our I always say in

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<v Speaker 3>our first marriage because we're in our second one, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>but in our first marriage, we kind of tried the

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<v Speaker 3>I quit my job and I was trying to pursue

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<v Speaker 3>real estate at that time. And at that time, real

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<v Speaker 3>estate is just like it's infested with agents, Like everyone

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<v Speaker 3>has a THEO or a THEA or someone that's in

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<v Speaker 3>real estate. So it's just it's hard. And then it

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<v Speaker 3>wasn't working for us, and that's when we kind of

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<v Speaker 3>started having our hardship, and that's when we broke up.

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<v Speaker 3>When we separated, So then coming back together. I was working,

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<v Speaker 3>She's working, and then we get hit with the hey,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, Jerry's coming. I'm gonna start working for my mom.

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<v Speaker 3>It's gonna become serious. What do we do? And we

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<v Speaker 3>start noticing the kids are just everywhere because I was

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<v Speaker 3>so busy at work, she was busy at work, and

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<v Speaker 3>we had a nanny or a babysitter, but like JJ

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<v Speaker 3>when he would go to the babysitter, he would just

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<v Speaker 3>start crying like he didn't like it.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, which made that for six months.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, first, so it was it was quite some time.

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<v Speaker 3>And then eventually I just told her, I said, hey, look,

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<v Speaker 3>I'll be honest, like at my job too, I'm unhappy

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<v Speaker 3>because it's it's always I was a recruiter, and it's

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<v Speaker 3>always it's always like get more people, get more people

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<v Speaker 3>like nunka. It's never enough, so there's always demand, demand, demand.

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<v Speaker 3>So then I'm like, I'm not happy with that, like

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<v Speaker 3>I you know, I'm not, and we just kind of

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<v Speaker 3>both felt like should you stay home? And then I

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<v Speaker 3>dedicate myself into this full time, which.

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<v Speaker 4>For for us it's it was hard.

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<v Speaker 2>It seemed like it was going to be the best

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<v Speaker 2>thing for our family, but it was also carried trauma

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<v Speaker 2>from from what happened the first time. So it's like

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<v Speaker 2>we had to intentionally heal those things that way we

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<v Speaker 2>can do this because it felt like we both had

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<v Speaker 2>an understanding that this is what needs to happen.

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<v Speaker 4>But it's scary.

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<v Speaker 1>It's scary. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>And then and then the machismo part too, is like,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, you don't want people saying that you know,

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<v Speaker 3>it's not Montaniano and all this stuff. So I had

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<v Speaker 3>my sessions with Rudy and I'm like, what do you think?

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<v Speaker 3>And Rudy's like, Bro, if God puts you in a place,

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<v Speaker 3>what does it matter what people say, That's the place

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<v Speaker 3>God puts you in. And I still battle with it

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<v Speaker 3>till today. Like till today, I'm like, man, like I

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<v Speaker 3>feel like I need to be doing something, but you

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<v Speaker 3>see the fruits in the house.

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<v Speaker 1>Like you are doing something like Jackie Saw.

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<v Speaker 3>I tell Jackie all the time. You know, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 3>be honest. I used to be the one that would

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<v Speaker 3>criticize the stay at home moms. I'll be honest. I

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<v Speaker 3>would say, you know, how hard is.

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<v Speaker 1>It to stay home to cook and to clean?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Like I'm like you're cooking, you're cleaning, you're picking

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<v Speaker 3>up the kids, you're dropping off, Like, how hard can

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<v Speaker 3>this be? It is, And I've been doing it for

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<v Speaker 3>about a year and I'm just like, no, honestly, my

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<v Speaker 3>respects because where you start at six am and you

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<v Speaker 3>don't stop till eight nine o'clock at night, I know.

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<v Speaker 3>And you don't get paid for this, dude, so it's

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<v Speaker 3>like it's work.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. No, And I saw it, and I commend you

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<v Speaker 1>because it's a question I've been wanting to ask you

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<v Speaker 1>because we've never we have never talked about it, and

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<v Speaker 1>my sister was just like, and it just says, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it works. I respect it works for you, guys. I

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<v Speaker 1>see why, and I think you raising your children is

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<v Speaker 1>way better than someone else. Especially if JJ was crying.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a reason why he was crying, so he prefers

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<v Speaker 1>his dad. While you're doing what you got to do,

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<v Speaker 1>and you figure that out in your organizing everything, then

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<v Speaker 1>you guys can figure out what you do next year

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<v Speaker 1>the following. But I think it's definitely an amazing thing

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<v Speaker 1>that you're doing because I saw you wake up super early.

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<v Speaker 1>My sister couldn't even talk to the kid she was

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<v Speaker 1>in so much she just felt not so nauseous. You guys,

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<v Speaker 1>that's the whole other thing we can talk about another time,

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<v Speaker 1>but her experience. But it is a lot of work.

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<v Speaker 1>It is a lot of work. In a way. It's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like, oh, just go and wake up and

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<v Speaker 1>go to work and come back and but staying home

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<v Speaker 1>because a dish a boom. That's why I was like

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<v Speaker 1>when I was like, I'm gonna help them watch the dish,

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<v Speaker 1>it like I'm gonna like, I don't want him to

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<v Speaker 1>worry because he was caring for my sister and then

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<v Speaker 1>the kids, and it's a lot. So I think I

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<v Speaker 1>personally feel that that's that's dope that you that you

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<v Speaker 1>could say, I'm gonna put my pride to the side,

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<v Speaker 1>and I f what everyone else says middle fingers up

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<v Speaker 1>and boom because it doesn't matter. Rudy's absolutely right. It's

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<v Speaker 1>what works for you, guys. And I think it's awesome

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<v Speaker 1>that you can go and you do what you're doing

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<v Speaker 1>for mom, which I know that's hard in itself. Sister.

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<v Speaker 4>I get home super tired.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes it's a lot, it's mentally emotionally, especially with everything

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<v Speaker 1>that we've been through. The past year with the family,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm sure you hear it, because I'm sure she

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<v Speaker 1>cries at night and tells you. And it's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of stress. And that's another thing, Like I say it

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<v Speaker 1>all the time, I'm so proud of my sister, and

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<v Speaker 1>like it's I was there and what it is to

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<v Speaker 1>my mom was here physically, like, but when I was

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<v Speaker 1>helping my mom build her her her empire, that was hard.

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<v Speaker 1>But even now not having her and you want to

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<v Speaker 1>ask her, like, Mom, what do you want? It's just

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<v Speaker 1>the right decision.

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<v Speaker 4>That's I'm like, damn, I don't even know what she

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<v Speaker 4>would want.

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<v Speaker 1>And how like you have your business, you guys have

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<v Speaker 1>the Colores, you have your household, you have it's so.

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<v Speaker 2>Much, it is, it's a lot. I think, like I

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<v Speaker 2>said last time, it just takes a lot of intentionality.

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<v Speaker 2>I think with mom in the business, there's been a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of science, which I'm so grateful because I get peace.

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<v Speaker 4>But then you know, there's a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>Of drama as well, and I have I think this

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<v Speaker 2>year has been not bringing that stuff home, yeah, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>and not checking out at home because I'm so tired

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<v Speaker 2>from the day and so emotionally drained or mentally drained.

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<v Speaker 2>And Tanya told me the other day, like, you, I

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<v Speaker 2>think you've checked out a little bit.

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<v Speaker 4>You've got to be intentional.

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<v Speaker 2>At home, yeah, and keep us like this together. So

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<v Speaker 2>it's like, all right, pulling energy from I don't know where,

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<v Speaker 2>to ask the kids how they were, and help with

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<v Speaker 2>this and just different things. But I really I've been

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<v Speaker 2>trying not to bring the emotional stress home, yeah, because

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I mean, Tanya told me once that the

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<v Speaker 2>mom is like the brings changes the energy at home.

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<v Speaker 2>So thermostat, Yes, it's the thermostat of the home, and

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<v Speaker 2>if I'm not okay, then everyone else is going to

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<v Speaker 2>feel it.

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<v Speaker 1>Damn. Yeah, and that's a lot of pressure. Maybe huh,

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit.

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<v Speaker 3>But I do want to say, you know, publicly as well,

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<v Speaker 3>and I've said it to her privately, that she's doing

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<v Speaker 3>a great job, that I'm proud of her as her husband,

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<v Speaker 3>Like I see the cleanup that she did with the company, dude,

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<v Speaker 3>like like it's almost like she threw almost everything out

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<v Speaker 3>and it's like we need to rebuild from ground up.

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<v Speaker 3>And I see that and I've helped her with some

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<v Speaker 3>of that too. Like we're at the office trying to

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<v Speaker 3>organize files correctly and things that you you can just

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<v Speaker 3>tell from Casello. I don't know, Masasi. And like eight o'clock,

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<v Speaker 3>nine o'clock at night, kids there they're eating in the

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<v Speaker 3>in the breakroom or in the in the conference room

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<v Speaker 3>while we're doing putting the files away or whatever. And

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<v Speaker 3>it's like, man, and then I'm just I'm proud of

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<v Speaker 3>her because I even see like it's silly, but even

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<v Speaker 3>in like the quality of the shirts, I'm just like,

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<v Speaker 3>this is way better.

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<v Speaker 1>Everything's better. It's good. Okay. So I I just my

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<v Speaker 1>my little sister. Guys grew up. That's really that's all

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<v Speaker 1>I can say. Like I grew a pair. It's just

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<v Speaker 1>like I'm like I even said it. I think the

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<v Speaker 1>other day I was like this, she's now the big sister.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's how I feel. It's like sometimes I'm like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>this is my sister's position. I respect her. I respect it,

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<v Speaker 1>like and I want to say thank you to you too, honestly, Mike,

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<v Speaker 1>for for allowing her, because this is a huge thank

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<v Speaker 1>you for letting her take on this responsibility for all

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<v Speaker 1>of us, you know, for my for all of us

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<v Speaker 1>from my mother because it is it is. It was

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<v Speaker 1>a mess, and it's still kind of. We have a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of work. There's a lot of stuff, you guys,

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<v Speaker 1>stuff that we've never talked about that I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if we ever will talk about publicly, but only if

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<v Speaker 1>it's necessary, only if it's necessary.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not going to speak details. But even Jackie saw,

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<v Speaker 3>like I saw certain files where I saw and I

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<v Speaker 3>saw how generous my mother in law was, and I

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<v Speaker 3>even just started crying because I'm like, that's a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, yeah, an.

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<v Speaker 2>I I do want to say I'm grateful for Mike

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<v Speaker 2>because I felt when coming in it's yeah, yess, I

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<v Speaker 2>felt unsure of myself and my abilities. But then also

0:21:44.520 --> 0:21:46.760
<v Speaker 2>as a mom, it's like I'm.

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<v Speaker 4>Only used to being home with my kids.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean I worked from home and the coloratas and

0:21:50.080 --> 0:21:53.600
<v Speaker 2>stuff like that, and he's definitely just having that peace

0:21:53.640 --> 0:21:56.880
<v Speaker 2>of mind really allows me to keep myself focused at

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<v Speaker 2>work into and the decisions that need to be made,

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<v Speaker 2>whether it's JRF for Jerry.

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<v Speaker 4>But you know, I'm.

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<v Speaker 2>Grateful because he's he's even definitely he's grown, like he's

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<v Speaker 2>learned to cook, you know, not all the big.

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<v Speaker 4>Things, but you know he can make some mac and cheese.

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<v Speaker 1>He makes a killer, a killer uh, strilled cheese. Things good.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so he's that. You know, I'm just proud And

0:22:19.640 --> 0:22:22.040
<v Speaker 4>it might not look normal.

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<v Speaker 2>What people say, but it's really what's best for us

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<v Speaker 2>and and that's all that matters.

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<v Speaker 1>That's all that matters. And the kids are happier, and.

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<v Speaker 4>They really are.

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<v Speaker 2>They're doing better in school, Like it just kind of

0:22:32.920 --> 0:22:36.640
<v Speaker 2>goes to show the need of a father in the home. Yes,

0:22:36.800 --> 0:22:39.600
<v Speaker 2>you know, like they're doing so good in school, they

0:22:39.640 --> 0:22:42.600
<v Speaker 2>know how to express themselves better, Like they're so trustworthy.

0:22:42.640 --> 0:22:44.840
<v Speaker 2>We have Jayla is a teenager now, and you would

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<v Speaker 2>think this is the time where it's gonna get really

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<v Speaker 2>hard because boys and just whatever and drugs and all

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<v Speaker 2>that stuff.

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<v Speaker 4>But she's extremely open. And I've even come to see

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<v Speaker 4>like she's more open with him that I was.

0:22:56.800 --> 0:22:58.960
<v Speaker 1>That they tell him everything. Yes, oh in this guy,

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<v Speaker 1>and he did that and he has a whole conversation.

0:23:00.720 --> 0:23:03.320
<v Speaker 1>I'm listening and I'm like, damn, the kids really like

0:23:03.320 --> 0:23:05.840
<v Speaker 1>there of him. Yeah. Does it make you feel any

0:23:05.880 --> 0:23:08.159
<v Speaker 1>type of way, like a little I don't know, jealousy or.

0:23:08.160 --> 0:23:12.000
<v Speaker 4>Like, no, honestly, it does. Sometimes I've had moments where I've.

0:23:11.880 --> 0:23:15.639
<v Speaker 2>Felt very like outside, like I get home and I

0:23:15.680 --> 0:23:17.400
<v Speaker 2>feel like I don't belong.

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<v Speaker 4>And I've thought about like Mom, like if she's had

0:23:20.640 --> 0:23:23.040
<v Speaker 4>ever felt that way, but that's with me. Yeah, Like

0:23:23.400 --> 0:23:23.679
<v Speaker 4>it's like.

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<v Speaker 2>Sometimes and then obviously with my my sessions with Tanya,

0:23:29.240 --> 0:23:31.000
<v Speaker 2>she's just she's like no, like you just got to

0:23:31.000 --> 0:23:33.480
<v Speaker 2>fight that and ask them and then they're they're dying

0:23:33.520 --> 0:23:36.280
<v Speaker 2>to talk about it. So it's like a little battle

0:23:36.320 --> 0:23:38.840
<v Speaker 2>that I've had to learn as a full time working mom.

0:23:38.920 --> 0:23:41.480
<v Speaker 2>It's like, Okay, how do I how do I get

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<v Speaker 2>myself back into the family mode. So yeah, but there's

0:23:45.760 --> 0:23:48.320
<v Speaker 2>moments it's it's hard, and I've thought of Mom. I'm like, man,

0:23:48.359 --> 0:23:49.840
<v Speaker 2>I can't I kind of get what she might have

0:23:49.920 --> 0:23:53.000
<v Speaker 2>been feeling, especially if she left for the weekends and

0:23:53.720 --> 0:23:54.000
<v Speaker 2>you know.

0:23:54.000 --> 0:23:56.520
<v Speaker 1>And she did and I didn't understand that then. And

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<v Speaker 1>I when she asked me to move out, and she's like,

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<v Speaker 1>I just want my home to feel like my home.

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<v Speaker 1>I want my kids to feel like my kids. Because

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<v Speaker 1>it was obviously this is a marriage very different, but

0:24:05.480 --> 0:24:07.119
<v Speaker 1>like I felt like in a way that was like

0:24:07.160 --> 0:24:09.240
<v Speaker 1>a marriage. She was the husband, yeah, and I was

0:24:09.240 --> 0:24:11.080
<v Speaker 1>the wife and I stayed home and the kids, and

0:24:11.119 --> 0:24:12.479
<v Speaker 1>it's like I would lay down the rules and then

0:24:12.480 --> 0:24:14.240
<v Speaker 1>she would come and it's like, what do you mean,

0:24:14.280 --> 0:24:15.919
<v Speaker 1>Like I took away his iPad because he's been a

0:24:15.920 --> 0:24:18.000
<v Speaker 1>bad boy, but but I haven't seen him. Yeah, so

0:24:18.040 --> 0:24:20.040
<v Speaker 1>it's just like I get that, you know what I mean.

0:24:20.080 --> 0:24:22.080
<v Speaker 1>So I was wondering. I was like, it's very different,

0:24:22.080 --> 0:24:24.399
<v Speaker 1>but no, mom felt that way where I was like,

0:24:24.520 --> 0:24:26.800
<v Speaker 1>now I get it. Now, I'm like, damn, I get it.

0:24:26.800 --> 0:24:30.000
<v Speaker 1>It was but it was more of like.

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<v Speaker 3>She felt left out.

0:24:32.000 --> 0:24:33.800
<v Speaker 1>She felt left out, you know. But that's why I'm

0:24:33.800 --> 0:24:42.119
<v Speaker 1>glad that you guys are communication. Communication. That's what I

0:24:42.119 --> 0:24:43.879
<v Speaker 1>was gonna ask you for a marriage now that in

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<v Speaker 1>your second marriage, your new marriage. What are the like,

0:24:46.520 --> 0:24:48.720
<v Speaker 1>the best advice that you can give us that are

0:24:48.720 --> 0:24:53.159
<v Speaker 1>trying to make things work. You just said communication. That's huge.

0:24:53.280 --> 0:24:54.320
<v Speaker 4>I think that's personage.

0:24:54.400 --> 0:24:56.120
<v Speaker 1>What's another one's always right?

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<v Speaker 2>No, yes, but no, I think it's definitely communication.

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<v Speaker 4>But more communication when you don't feel like.

0:25:04.200 --> 0:25:08.600
<v Speaker 2>It, there's gonna be there's like there's sometimes there's moments

0:25:08.640 --> 0:25:11.199
<v Speaker 2>where you're like I don't even but that those are

0:25:11.240 --> 0:25:13.640
<v Speaker 2>the moments you should push through the most I feel

0:25:13.640 --> 0:25:15.679
<v Speaker 2>a lot of forgiveness because you have to remember, like

0:25:17.119 --> 0:25:18.840
<v Speaker 2>I thought, just because I had met him at church,

0:25:18.880 --> 0:25:21.280
<v Speaker 2>he was gonna be like the perfect guy and he

0:25:21.359 --> 0:25:22.359
<v Speaker 2>was gonna have it all together.

0:25:22.440 --> 0:25:23.840
<v Speaker 4>But he comes with baggage.

0:25:23.920 --> 0:25:25.680
<v Speaker 2>I come with baggage, and you have to be ready

0:25:25.720 --> 0:25:28.120
<v Speaker 2>to like be ready to forgive because they're not gonna

0:25:28.119 --> 0:25:31.120
<v Speaker 2>be perfect. They're gonna make mistakes. I'm gonna make mistakes,

0:25:31.480 --> 0:25:34.840
<v Speaker 2>so definitely, I think. And then intentionality, especially now, like

0:25:35.400 --> 0:25:37.200
<v Speaker 2>because he's tired for me with the kids all day,

0:25:37.240 --> 0:25:39.800
<v Speaker 2>I'm tired for being at work. But it's like intentionality

0:25:39.840 --> 0:25:42.240
<v Speaker 2>and our personal relationship. Just because we're taking care of

0:25:42.320 --> 0:25:45.879
<v Speaker 2>kids together doesn't mean we're building our marriage.

0:25:45.720 --> 0:25:48.200
<v Speaker 1>Right, So you guys still have to find that time for.

0:25:48.160 --> 0:25:52.320
<v Speaker 2>You Yeah, which is a little hard sometimes, you know,

0:25:52.359 --> 0:25:54.560
<v Speaker 2>because I decided to move all the way far far away,

0:25:55.000 --> 0:25:56.520
<v Speaker 2>so I don't how my siblings to help take.

0:25:56.359 --> 0:25:57.120
<v Speaker 4>Care of the kids.

0:25:57.720 --> 0:26:00.000
<v Speaker 2>But I mean, we gotta figure that out, Tanya and Rue,

0:26:00.080 --> 0:26:02.080
<v Speaker 2>he really taught us that date nights don't mean date

0:26:02.160 --> 0:26:03.639
<v Speaker 2>nights to get out of your house. That means like

0:26:03.800 --> 0:26:05.480
<v Speaker 2>just turn off the TV and talk to each other,

0:26:05.760 --> 0:26:06.359
<v Speaker 2>play a game.

0:26:07.280 --> 0:26:12.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Okay, Yeah, yeah night, is that go out again? Okay? Cool?

0:26:12.160 --> 0:26:13.040
<v Speaker 1>Just just be together?

0:26:13.600 --> 0:26:15.840
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, without our phones, That's that's a big thing.

0:26:16.600 --> 0:26:20.560
<v Speaker 1>And have you, sister, ever thought of in this whole

0:26:20.600 --> 0:26:23.000
<v Speaker 1>almost two years of being the CEO, have you thought

0:26:23.400 --> 0:26:25.560
<v Speaker 1>I've never asked you this, but have you read that

0:26:25.640 --> 0:26:27.840
<v Speaker 1>I I don't want to do this. I want to quit?

0:26:29.720 --> 0:26:31.000
<v Speaker 4>Probably a handful of times.

0:26:31.000 --> 0:26:32.240
<v Speaker 1>Okay, I think.

0:26:32.080 --> 0:26:36.159
<v Speaker 2>I think it's then it's mostly emotional. Okay, that's mostly

0:26:36.200 --> 0:26:40.480
<v Speaker 2>like I just can't deal with the emotional stress. The

0:26:40.480 --> 0:26:42.240
<v Speaker 2>there's really hard decisions that need to be made, and

0:26:42.280 --> 0:26:43.800
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, I wish someone else could make these. I

0:26:43.800 --> 0:26:47.640
<v Speaker 2>wish it wasn't me. So I have thought and I've prayed.

0:26:47.680 --> 0:26:49.359
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, Okay, when how long am I going to

0:26:49.400 --> 0:26:49.879
<v Speaker 2>be doing this for?

0:26:50.040 --> 0:26:52.800
<v Speaker 4>Is this forever? Is this just an assignment for this moment?

0:26:53.119 --> 0:26:56.239
<v Speaker 1>Okay? Because I don't want you to like give up

0:26:56.240 --> 0:26:59.000
<v Speaker 1>on your vit. Yeah, so I've I really need you

0:26:59.040 --> 0:27:00.720
<v Speaker 1>to like that to decide a bit, but just a

0:27:00.800 --> 0:27:03.040
<v Speaker 1>little bit. But I'm still working on Like I've recorded

0:27:03.040 --> 0:27:06.520
<v Speaker 1>a few things when I have time could And this

0:27:06.600 --> 0:27:09.840
<v Speaker 1>year is definitely the year, you know, my album's coming out.

0:27:09.960 --> 0:27:11.680
<v Speaker 1>Thank God. I can't wait for you guys to listen

0:27:11.760 --> 0:27:11.959
<v Speaker 1>to it.

0:27:12.160 --> 0:27:14.280
<v Speaker 2>So I'm also going to have to get used to

0:27:14.320 --> 0:27:17.159
<v Speaker 2>like whatever change comes to readjust again.

0:27:18.040 --> 0:27:21.000
<v Speaker 1>And also to say, Okay, you're organizing, and it took

0:27:21.000 --> 0:27:23.800
<v Speaker 1>a long time to organize and put everything the right

0:27:23.840 --> 0:27:26.320
<v Speaker 1>way and situate it. But once you have those people,

0:27:26.359 --> 0:27:29.080
<v Speaker 1>I've told you it's okay, then you delegate and you're

0:27:29.119 --> 0:27:31.760
<v Speaker 1>supervising and you could still do you and do your family.

0:27:32.119 --> 0:27:35.840
<v Speaker 1>Because I think you don't want to live with Oh,

0:27:36.160 --> 0:27:37.679
<v Speaker 1>Mom doesn't want that for you. I can tell you

0:27:37.800 --> 0:27:40.240
<v Speaker 1>right now. I know Mom, Okay, we all know, but

0:27:40.280 --> 0:27:42.960
<v Speaker 1>I feel like Mom would say I need you. She

0:27:43.080 --> 0:27:44.600
<v Speaker 1>wanted you to be on that stay. She wanted you

0:27:44.640 --> 0:27:46.399
<v Speaker 1>to sing, she wanted you to She wants all of

0:27:46.520 --> 0:27:48.720
<v Speaker 1>us to do what we want to do, you know. So,

0:27:49.240 --> 0:27:51.679
<v Speaker 1>and I know you never have to worry about all

0:27:51.760 --> 0:27:53.640
<v Speaker 1>of us or we all of us, and I can

0:27:53.680 --> 0:27:55.399
<v Speaker 1>probably speak for all of your siblings as well, like

0:27:55.680 --> 0:27:57.679
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna be fine with it. We want you to

0:27:57.760 --> 0:28:00.000
<v Speaker 1>be happy, you know what I mean, Like your family

0:28:00.080 --> 0:28:02.800
<v Speaker 1>is important. So I wanted to say that. And the

0:28:02.960 --> 0:28:05.800
<v Speaker 1>sister if there's anything a piece of advice as far

0:28:05.880 --> 0:28:09.560
<v Speaker 1>as like what not to do in a relationship, like

0:28:10.200 --> 0:28:15.320
<v Speaker 1>something that is like don't do this or anything like.

0:28:15.359 --> 0:28:20.440
<v Speaker 1>For instance, for me, I have a problem with when

0:28:20.440 --> 0:28:23.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm upset, I bring up stuff that happened in the

0:28:23.640 --> 0:28:26.479
<v Speaker 1>past that you hurt my feelings about you have it

0:28:26.600 --> 0:28:31.800
<v Speaker 1>and that's not good. Tanya's like, huh uh, yeah, she

0:28:32.440 --> 0:28:34.679
<v Speaker 1>gotta faget. Yeah, She's like, you need to stop doing that.

0:28:34.720 --> 0:28:36.920
<v Speaker 1>And I said, okay, So that's like my little card.

0:28:36.920 --> 0:28:37.960
<v Speaker 1>I was like, well, you did this, and this is

0:28:37.960 --> 0:28:39.400
<v Speaker 1>why I'm like this, and I'm like mad and I'm

0:28:39.440 --> 0:28:41.920
<v Speaker 1>sad and you know, but for me, that's that is

0:28:41.960 --> 0:28:42.959
<v Speaker 1>there one that you guys have.

0:28:44.000 --> 0:28:47.000
<v Speaker 3>I mean I used to be like that. To be

0:28:47.040 --> 0:28:50.760
<v Speaker 3>honest with you, I could definitely hold a grudge for

0:28:50.840 --> 0:28:55.480
<v Speaker 3>quite some time. Still do, but through counseling and mentorship,

0:28:55.920 --> 0:28:57.840
<v Speaker 3>you know, they kind of open your eyes to realize,

0:28:57.840 --> 0:29:00.320
<v Speaker 3>like why you're doing that, And when you realize you're

0:29:00.320 --> 0:29:02.480
<v Speaker 3>doing that, you're like, oh man, that's kind of childish

0:29:02.480 --> 0:29:05.360
<v Speaker 3>and petty of me. So then it forces you to change.

0:29:05.400 --> 0:29:08.560
<v Speaker 3>But you know, we all have we all go through

0:29:08.560 --> 0:29:11.200
<v Speaker 3>our process and we all go through our growth at

0:29:11.200 --> 0:29:14.440
<v Speaker 3>our own time. So it's almost like I'm not judging

0:29:14.480 --> 0:29:16.720
<v Speaker 3>anyone else for doing it, you know. For me, it's

0:29:16.800 --> 0:29:20.920
<v Speaker 3>just almost like like it's crazy, like if I don't know,

0:29:21.000 --> 0:29:25.920
<v Speaker 3>Like like the other day, Jayla was like, man, that

0:29:26.040 --> 0:29:28.800
<v Speaker 3>everyone knows the password to your phone, and I said

0:29:28.880 --> 0:29:31.960
<v Speaker 3>everyone in this household. I said, everyone in this household.

0:29:32.040 --> 0:29:36.120
<v Speaker 3>And why because I'm not hiding anything, so you guys

0:29:36.120 --> 0:29:38.560
<v Speaker 3>can go through my phone at any time when you

0:29:38.640 --> 0:29:42.040
<v Speaker 3>want and go for it, you know. And she just

0:29:42.160 --> 0:29:44.800
<v Speaker 3>kind of looks at it, looks at me, and she's like, Okay,

0:29:44.800 --> 0:29:47.040
<v Speaker 3>whatever da And for her it's like whatever.

0:29:48.640 --> 0:29:48.800
<v Speaker 1>Not.

0:29:48.960 --> 0:29:51.200
<v Speaker 3>But but I know in the future one day she's

0:29:51.240 --> 0:29:53.000
<v Speaker 3>going to look back at that and be like, Wow,

0:29:53.280 --> 0:29:56.240
<v Speaker 3>there's there's transparency there exactly. That's awesome.

0:29:56.280 --> 0:29:57.840
<v Speaker 1>And that's what I see in you too, Mike, Like

0:29:57.880 --> 0:30:00.240
<v Speaker 1>where you for you even saying like, you know what,

0:30:00.240 --> 0:30:02.240
<v Speaker 1>I'm still working on this, I was this way that

0:30:02.320 --> 0:30:03.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't. We had a conversation a few months ago

0:30:04.000 --> 0:30:05.520
<v Speaker 1>and we talked about it, and I was like, Dude,

0:30:05.680 --> 0:30:08.000
<v Speaker 1>that shows growth when we can say, hey, I'm not perfect,

0:30:08.040 --> 0:30:10.160
<v Speaker 1>I've messed up. I have to up here like that.

0:30:10.160 --> 0:30:10.719
<v Speaker 1>That's awesome.

0:30:10.920 --> 0:30:12.880
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. No, And I even noticed it, like when you

0:30:12.920 --> 0:30:18.600
<v Speaker 3>were opening the show or the episodever, like, well, I

0:30:18.640 --> 0:30:21.600
<v Speaker 3>even tell Jackie it recently in a conversation that we

0:30:21.600 --> 0:30:24.920
<v Speaker 3>were having, I said, with me, talk to me straightforward,

0:30:24.960 --> 0:30:27.680
<v Speaker 3>like tell me like, hey, you did this wrong, or

0:30:27.800 --> 0:30:32.600
<v Speaker 3>I don't trust because of this. Tell me, because you know,

0:30:32.800 --> 0:30:35.520
<v Speaker 3>I'm not afraid to see or to hear that and

0:30:35.600 --> 0:30:38.400
<v Speaker 3>see if maybe I am wrong or maybe I can

0:30:38.440 --> 0:30:42.120
<v Speaker 3>help heal you for you thinking what you're thinking, you know,

0:30:42.960 --> 0:30:45.720
<v Speaker 3>because we're afraid to say, like for example, you know,

0:30:45.800 --> 0:30:48.600
<v Speaker 3>if she she's afraid that I'm being in faithful, she

0:30:48.720 --> 0:30:50.800
<v Speaker 3>might be afraid to ask the question. Well, I don't

0:30:50.800 --> 0:30:52.280
<v Speaker 3>want to ask him if he because he's just going

0:30:52.360 --> 0:30:54.440
<v Speaker 3>to straight up li to me and to me, I'm like,

0:30:54.680 --> 0:30:57.400
<v Speaker 3>be honest, like, if that's the fear you have, ask

0:30:57.520 --> 0:31:01.120
<v Speaker 3>me and then we and then like you'll be able

0:31:01.120 --> 0:31:03.440
<v Speaker 3>to see it either in his in the reflection and

0:31:03.480 --> 0:31:06.120
<v Speaker 3>how he responds like you know, and go for it,

0:31:06.160 --> 0:31:13.200
<v Speaker 3>like you know, my mom used to say, so I'm like, okay, yeah.

0:31:13.040 --> 0:31:15.560
<v Speaker 1>And my mom always used to say, ask asking you

0:31:15.560 --> 0:31:18.040
<v Speaker 1>will learn. Don't be that little girl that's scared to

0:31:18.200 --> 0:31:20.560
<v Speaker 1>lift your hand. Always ask questions, you know. So it's

0:31:20.560 --> 0:31:22.360
<v Speaker 1>like it's true you gotta ask in order to know.

0:31:22.560 --> 0:31:26.640
<v Speaker 1>So okay, sister, so you could be doing anything and everything. Okay,

0:31:26.640 --> 0:31:28.960
<v Speaker 1>you could have said no, I don't want to do this,

0:31:29.200 --> 0:31:34.920
<v Speaker 1>CEO Jr. E. Because whatever reasons, why did you say yes?

0:31:37.200 --> 0:31:37.480
<v Speaker 3>Well?

0:31:38.560 --> 0:31:40.680
<v Speaker 2>I prayed a lot about it because it was going

0:31:40.760 --> 0:31:46.160
<v Speaker 2>to be a sacrifice on many different levels. And I

0:31:46.280 --> 0:31:50.560
<v Speaker 2>felt God say it was actually an analogy of like

0:31:51.160 --> 0:31:54.800
<v Speaker 2>a basketball in our hands is nothing, but in the

0:31:54.800 --> 0:31:57.280
<v Speaker 2>hands of Lebron James, it's millions and millions of dollars.

0:31:57.320 --> 0:32:00.000
<v Speaker 2>And I felt God say, this company, in the right

0:32:00.120 --> 0:32:04.760
<v Speaker 2>hands will be blessed abundantly. And I really felt like, Okay,

0:32:04.840 --> 0:32:07.760
<v Speaker 2>it's gonna be hard, and it's gonna help me grow,

0:32:08.240 --> 0:32:10.040
<v Speaker 2>and it has helped me grow. I felt Mom so

0:32:10.160 --> 0:32:12.920
<v Speaker 2>close like teaching me really to grow.

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<v Speaker 4>But it's I feel like.

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<v Speaker 2>It's gonna be blessed because it's going to be in

0:32:16.600 --> 0:32:18.120
<v Speaker 2>there finally in the right hands.

0:32:18.280 --> 0:32:20.480
<v Speaker 4>And that's not just me the right hands.

0:32:20.240 --> 0:32:23.680
<v Speaker 1>But us. Yeah, and you've been really good with involving

0:32:23.760 --> 0:32:26.320
<v Speaker 1>us and everything. I think you've been so great with that.

0:32:26.960 --> 0:32:29.400
<v Speaker 1>You think you're doing a great job, sister, And I'm

0:32:29.440 --> 0:32:33.560
<v Speaker 1>sorry for everything that has happened and publicly and so

0:32:33.680 --> 0:32:35.920
<v Speaker 1>much crap that has been said. And you know, just

0:32:35.960 --> 0:32:38.920
<v Speaker 1>for the record, did anyone force you to do this job?

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<v Speaker 2>No one forced me to do this job, and no

0:32:41.560 --> 0:32:43.520
<v Speaker 2>one forced me to sue anyone.

0:32:43.760 --> 0:32:45.880
<v Speaker 4>It was the right decision that needed to be made.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, sister, Okay, great, because for some reason everyone thinks

0:32:49.760 --> 0:32:51.600
<v Speaker 1>I forced you and that I'm the big bad witch

0:32:52.160 --> 0:32:54.719
<v Speaker 1>that is like, do this, Jackie, and do this. Johnny

0:32:54.760 --> 0:32:56.840
<v Speaker 1>and Jenica you say this, and Mikey you be a penis,

0:32:56.920 --> 0:33:00.680
<v Speaker 1>And no, it was not me. You guys kids, and

0:33:00.720 --> 0:33:03.280
<v Speaker 1>they're not kids. They're grown as hell. Johnny's twenty three.

0:33:04.600 --> 0:33:07.280
<v Speaker 1>They're grown. They have You guys have always had a

0:33:07.320 --> 0:33:09.240
<v Speaker 1>mind of your own. And I'm just I'm here and

0:33:09.280 --> 0:33:11.840
<v Speaker 1>I respect them, and if I'm like, hey, this seems

0:33:11.840 --> 0:33:14.040
<v Speaker 1>a little weird, at the end of the day, you

0:33:14.120 --> 0:33:15.800
<v Speaker 1>have a mind of your own, and you have grown

0:33:16.320 --> 0:33:19.760
<v Speaker 1>so much in so many different ways. You're so different

0:33:20.800 --> 0:33:22.880
<v Speaker 1>for the better. You've grown in every way, and I

0:33:22.960 --> 0:33:24.680
<v Speaker 1>just I wanted to kind of say that because I'm

0:33:24.720 --> 0:33:26.800
<v Speaker 1>just like sometimes I'm like, oh, I wanted to out

0:33:27.200 --> 0:33:30.360
<v Speaker 1>and safe, get on alive and just go to people's houses,

0:33:30.400 --> 0:33:33.200
<v Speaker 1>and I'm like ah, because but I'm like, okay, I'm

0:33:33.200 --> 0:33:34.600
<v Speaker 1>gonna compose. You gotta trust God.

0:33:34.720 --> 0:33:37.160
<v Speaker 4>Trust God, and he knows everything.

0:33:37.160 --> 0:33:40.760
<v Speaker 2>And just for the record, when I was thinking about this,

0:33:40.800 --> 0:33:44.520
<v Speaker 2>because just the decision to do the lawsuit was not easy,

0:33:44.600 --> 0:33:45.600
<v Speaker 2>I think for any of us.

0:33:45.720 --> 0:33:46.720
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it was very hard.

0:33:46.880 --> 0:33:48.400
<v Speaker 2>There was days where it's like, let's do this, and

0:33:48.440 --> 0:33:50.360
<v Speaker 2>there was days like I can't. This is crazy. But

0:33:50.400 --> 0:33:51.240
<v Speaker 2>you're the one that told me.

0:33:51.280 --> 0:33:53.400
<v Speaker 4>Let's just pray about it. Let's pray a little bit,

0:33:53.520 --> 0:33:55.440
<v Speaker 4>and we did. We gave it a whole year.

0:33:55.920 --> 0:33:59.280
<v Speaker 1>So a whole year, you guys, And so I just

0:33:59.360 --> 0:34:01.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, you can't talk about the details, obviously, because

0:34:01.560 --> 0:34:03.320
<v Speaker 1>we're going to leave that in the hands of the

0:34:03.400 --> 0:34:05.680
<v Speaker 1>law and we're just trying to do things as right

0:34:05.720 --> 0:34:07.720
<v Speaker 1>as possible. I know some people might think, oh my god,

0:34:07.760 --> 0:34:11.960
<v Speaker 1>they're stealing their grandpa. It's so much. It's beyond that.

0:34:12.040 --> 0:34:14.239
<v Speaker 1>And unfortunately, a lot of our family has been a

0:34:14.239 --> 0:34:18.239
<v Speaker 1>lot very business and fortunately or unfortunately, what's right is right,

0:34:18.280 --> 0:34:21.600
<v Speaker 1>and Mom worked very hard for myself and my siblings,

0:34:21.600 --> 0:34:23.680
<v Speaker 1>and it is what it is. People want to understand

0:34:23.680 --> 0:34:24.160
<v Speaker 1>it until.

0:34:23.960 --> 0:34:25.800
<v Speaker 3>They know the detail, and it comes down to whether

0:34:25.880 --> 0:34:28.760
<v Speaker 3>you're healthy or not. And I think when you're not healthy,

0:34:28.840 --> 0:34:32.000
<v Speaker 3>it's when you make it personal like it's family. But

0:34:32.080 --> 0:34:34.560
<v Speaker 3>if you take the titles away, if you take away grandpa,

0:34:34.680 --> 0:34:39.000
<v Speaker 3>and if you take away granddaughter, and you really find

0:34:39.000 --> 0:34:42.160
<v Speaker 3>out what's going on. Wait, this deal didn't pay this deal?

0:34:42.320 --> 0:34:47.160
<v Speaker 3>Well that's wrong. It's that simple. But because of years

0:34:47.280 --> 0:34:50.080
<v Speaker 3>and we're healing from us, right like from us, and

0:34:50.120 --> 0:34:52.399
<v Speaker 3>I could only imagine they have to go through their

0:34:52.440 --> 0:34:55.680
<v Speaker 3>healing because so many things happen and they thought that

0:34:55.800 --> 0:34:58.360
<v Speaker 3>was the right way to do business back then. But

0:34:58.440 --> 0:35:02.040
<v Speaker 3>it's like no, so but then it's like take away

0:35:02.080 --> 0:35:04.480
<v Speaker 3>that from someone that was used to that and it

0:35:05.040 --> 0:35:09.279
<v Speaker 3>you know, like it's just it's gonna happen because they.

0:35:09.160 --> 0:35:11.080
<v Speaker 1>Had so much in their hands and so much power

0:35:11.120 --> 0:35:13.880
<v Speaker 1>that didn't take it from them, and it's like listen,

0:35:14.360 --> 0:35:16.040
<v Speaker 1>the monster comes out, you know what I mean. And

0:35:16.040 --> 0:35:17.600
<v Speaker 1>it's like we go back to what we've talked about

0:35:17.640 --> 0:35:19.719
<v Speaker 1>toxic loyalty, which you know, we can't get into it

0:35:19.719 --> 0:35:21.920
<v Speaker 1>too much right now, but that's it's like we can't

0:35:22.120 --> 0:35:24.200
<v Speaker 1>be have toxic loyalty, like we got to do what

0:35:24.320 --> 0:35:27.080
<v Speaker 1>is right and they have to do what is right,

0:35:27.320 --> 0:35:30.439
<v Speaker 1>you know. So anyways, that's the whole other episode. You guys.

0:35:30.440 --> 0:35:32.640
<v Speaker 1>But I think you're up. Your podcast is great.

0:35:33.080 --> 0:35:33.279
<v Speaker 3>Good.

0:35:33.400 --> 0:35:36.480
<v Speaker 1>Yes, Okay, So Mike, I have a question for you. Now,

0:35:37.800 --> 0:35:42.480
<v Speaker 1>what because I'm assuming that in your household, like therapy

0:35:42.600 --> 0:35:45.000
<v Speaker 1>wasn't a thing or was it like counseling? No, okay,

0:35:45.680 --> 0:35:48.239
<v Speaker 1>what was it that made you like reach out to

0:35:48.360 --> 0:35:50.520
<v Speaker 1>like Tanya? I mean, because thank God you found her

0:35:50.640 --> 0:35:53.719
<v Speaker 1>now we all benefit, But like, what do you feel like,

0:35:54.800 --> 0:35:58.520
<v Speaker 1>especially because again being a man, being a Latino man,

0:35:58.640 --> 0:36:01.040
<v Speaker 1>and men can be in arist or feel like no,

0:36:01.080 --> 0:36:02.840
<v Speaker 1>I don't need help, I'm no I got this or

0:36:03.600 --> 0:36:06.000
<v Speaker 1>what in you or what was it or what was

0:36:06.640 --> 0:36:09.319
<v Speaker 1>the moment the straw that broke the Cavil's back that

0:36:09.400 --> 0:36:10.319
<v Speaker 1>was like I gotta do this.

0:36:10.680 --> 0:36:15.959
<v Speaker 3>Oh well, I was devastated for sure, being separated from

0:36:15.960 --> 0:36:19.840
<v Speaker 3>my wife from the kids. And there was like many

0:36:19.960 --> 0:36:23.719
<v Speaker 3>nights where, you know, being honest, I would go to

0:36:23.760 --> 0:36:26.759
<v Speaker 3>sleep crying, like I'm crying for and I've told Jackie this,

0:36:27.480 --> 0:36:29.440
<v Speaker 3>Like there was days where I'm literally crying in my

0:36:29.480 --> 0:36:31.880
<v Speaker 3>bed and I'm praying to God and I'm telling God,

0:36:32.040 --> 0:36:34.200
<v Speaker 3>one day I'm going to have my wife back in

0:36:34.200 --> 0:36:39.319
<v Speaker 3>this bed with me. And it was tough moments. But

0:36:40.640 --> 0:36:43.399
<v Speaker 3>my sister was the one that actually told me. She's

0:36:43.440 --> 0:36:46.400
<v Speaker 3>like call this lady, like just find like because she

0:36:46.600 --> 0:36:49.680
<v Speaker 3>also heard her testimony. So then I called her and

0:36:49.680 --> 0:36:52.800
<v Speaker 3>I started having sessions and I started going through starting

0:36:52.840 --> 0:36:56.319
<v Speaker 3>feelings with her. And it's hard because you're fighting what

0:36:56.360 --> 0:36:59.840
<v Speaker 3>you were taught as a Latino man, like you know

0:37:00.120 --> 0:37:04.359
<v Speaker 3>losmeres no yoran or don't feel or this, and then

0:37:04.400 --> 0:37:07.120
<v Speaker 3>you have to I started coming to a realization like wait,

0:37:07.719 --> 0:37:10.200
<v Speaker 3>I'm a different type of guy than other guys, Like

0:37:10.320 --> 0:37:13.920
<v Speaker 3>I do allow myself to think and feel and sometimes

0:37:13.920 --> 0:37:15.680
<v Speaker 3>I even tell myself like, man, you're a little bit

0:37:15.719 --> 0:37:18.120
<v Speaker 3>too much. But I'm like that's the gift God has

0:37:18.160 --> 0:37:20.680
<v Speaker 3>given me, Like that's who I am, and I have

0:37:20.760 --> 0:37:25.120
<v Speaker 3>to embrace that. So through one of my sessions with Tanya,

0:37:25.840 --> 0:37:28.799
<v Speaker 3>she told me to write a letter to Jackie. So

0:37:28.880 --> 0:37:31.280
<v Speaker 3>I started writing a letter to Jackie and she said,

0:37:31.400 --> 0:37:34.640
<v Speaker 3>you know, write the things that you're sorry for or

0:37:34.719 --> 0:37:37.280
<v Speaker 3>things that or how you treated her. So I started

0:37:37.320 --> 0:37:40.440
<v Speaker 3>writing this letter and then I finished it, and then

0:37:40.680 --> 0:37:42.640
<v Speaker 3>the next session, Tanya said, all right, read it to me.

0:37:42.760 --> 0:37:44.759
<v Speaker 3>And then when I started reading it, that's what really

0:37:44.840 --> 0:37:48.360
<v Speaker 3>impacted me. To like it clicks something in me to

0:37:48.480 --> 0:37:51.000
<v Speaker 3>say I need to start changing because in my letter,

0:37:51.719 --> 0:37:57.200
<v Speaker 3>I was apologizing to my wife and I'm not crying

0:37:57.239 --> 0:38:00.000
<v Speaker 3>because I haven't healed from it. I'm crying just because

0:38:00.080 --> 0:38:02.359
<v Speaker 3>as like I remember that, and I'm like, man, I was,

0:38:02.400 --> 0:38:08.640
<v Speaker 3>I was a jerk for suppressing her, for telling her

0:38:08.680 --> 0:38:12.479
<v Speaker 3>that people only wanted to hear her because she's Jennie

0:38:12.520 --> 0:38:21.279
<v Speaker 3>Rivera's daughter, for telling her she's a bad mom. And

0:38:21.400 --> 0:38:24.800
<v Speaker 3>then Tanya said, would you want your daughters to marry

0:38:24.800 --> 0:38:28.640
<v Speaker 3>a man like that? And that's when I'm like, no,

0:38:28.840 --> 0:38:32.200
<v Speaker 3>like I would not. So then that kind of hit

0:38:32.239 --> 0:38:36.040
<v Speaker 3>me to be like, well, she's someone's daughter. And that's

0:38:36.040 --> 0:38:37.800
<v Speaker 3>when I said, Okay, now I gotta change this. I

0:38:37.800 --> 0:38:40.560
<v Speaker 3>gotta start treating and and it just honestly, that was

0:38:40.600 --> 0:38:43.600
<v Speaker 3>a transformation that God really did in me. And he said, hey, Mike,

0:38:44.040 --> 0:38:47.360
<v Speaker 3>instead of speaking these words of death to your family,

0:38:47.920 --> 0:38:52.080
<v Speaker 3>start speaking words of life. And it was hard because

0:38:52.160 --> 0:38:55.319
<v Speaker 3>I never grew up hearing that from my dad to

0:38:55.400 --> 0:39:00.920
<v Speaker 3>anyone or or aunts and uncles, nothing, so and as

0:39:00.960 --> 0:39:03.160
<v Speaker 3>I started doing it, it started becoming a little bit

0:39:03.160 --> 0:39:06.359
<v Speaker 3>more normal. And now like I'm just so grateful with God,

0:39:06.400 --> 0:39:09.719
<v Speaker 3>because I'm like, wow, like I can, I can tell her.

0:39:09.960 --> 0:39:14.720
<v Speaker 3>I'm proud of her, and I couldn't before. It's weird,

0:39:14.760 --> 0:39:17.800
<v Speaker 3>but it's just like that was a transformation that really helped,

0:39:18.400 --> 0:39:20.720
<v Speaker 3>you know, And that's why counseling it's very important.

0:39:20.800 --> 0:39:23.279
<v Speaker 1>It's very important. You guys, therapy, We're huge, and that

0:39:23.360 --> 0:39:29.200
<v Speaker 1>this is this is the fruit of seeking counseling and therapy.

0:39:29.239 --> 0:39:31.160
<v Speaker 1>And I'm just I can't even say it enough. I'm

0:39:31.200 --> 0:39:33.920
<v Speaker 1>so proud you guys, Like this is thank you, This

0:39:34.000 --> 0:39:36.120
<v Speaker 1>is awesome, and I am so grateful that you guys

0:39:36.120 --> 0:39:37.960
<v Speaker 1>took the time to come because I know you guys

0:39:38.000 --> 0:39:39.799
<v Speaker 1>have the kids and it's kind of far, but I'm

0:39:39.840 --> 0:39:43.160
<v Speaker 1>so grateful. So you guys before you leave. Okay, so

0:39:43.320 --> 0:39:47.800
<v Speaker 1>the Mac Effect, Yeah is the podcast you guys' Instagram?

0:39:47.840 --> 0:39:48.960
<v Speaker 1>Do you guys want to share it so people can

0:39:49.000 --> 0:39:50.760
<v Speaker 1>follow you guys and follow your journey and stuff.

0:39:50.800 --> 0:39:54.920
<v Speaker 2>Okay, I'm Jackie Rivera only because that's my artist's name,

0:39:54.960 --> 0:39:57.000
<v Speaker 2>not because I'm not proud of the campus.

0:39:58.360 --> 0:39:59.799
<v Speaker 4>On Instagram and everything else.

0:40:00.640 --> 0:40:02.479
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but Jackie with a cue.

0:40:02.520 --> 0:40:05.480
<v Speaker 3>Sorry, Yeah, I've never told people, Yeah, follow me on Instagram,

0:40:05.560 --> 0:40:07.239
<v Speaker 3>So just say if you find me you find me

0:40:07.280 --> 0:40:08.120
<v Speaker 3>in That's great.

0:40:09.160 --> 0:40:11.960
<v Speaker 1>I like that, so I am proud. I love you guys,

0:40:11.960 --> 0:40:14.760
<v Speaker 1>and thank you for giving me beautiful, wonderful nieces and nephews.

0:40:14.760 --> 0:40:18.560
<v Speaker 1>I love them so much. There have great kids, all right,

0:40:18.600 --> 0:40:21.640
<v Speaker 1>cool and Jennia will help me. Not just gonna sho Jens. Anyways,

0:40:21.640 --> 0:40:23.440
<v Speaker 1>you guys, thank you so much and I will catch

0:40:23.480 --> 0:40:30.040
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