1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,720 Speaker 1: For anybody looking to have more discipline, I invite you 2 00:00:02,759 --> 00:00:05,520 Speaker 1: to constantly look at those promises that you are making 3 00:00:05,559 --> 00:00:08,399 Speaker 1: to yourself, Audit them. Do they still matter? Do they 4 00:00:08,440 --> 00:00:10,800 Speaker 1: matter today? Will they matter tomorrow? Will they matter in 5 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:14,000 Speaker 1: five years? For those things that are resounding yes, then 6 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:15,640 Speaker 1: those are going to be the things that you really 7 00:00:15,680 --> 00:00:18,600 Speaker 1: want to prioritize and look at and have those promises 8 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:20,239 Speaker 1: that you want to keep to yourself. And for those 9 00:00:20,280 --> 00:00:21,119 Speaker 1: things where it's. 10 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:33,960 Speaker 2: Like not so much, be flexible with it. 11 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:40,920 Speaker 3: Hey, everybody, Emily Abadi here coming to you live from 12 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:46,040 Speaker 3: the Age Studio. You are listening to another installment of 13 00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:48,240 Speaker 3: Hurdle Moment from Hurdle. 14 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:50,080 Speaker 4: A wellness focused podcast. 15 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:53,279 Speaker 3: Reconnect with everyone from your favorite athletes to top experts 16 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 3: and industry CEOs about their highest hies, toughest moments, and 17 00:00:57,040 --> 00:00:57,960 Speaker 3: everything in between. 18 00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:00,840 Speaker 4: We all go through hurdles and life, and my. 19 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:03,680 Speaker 3: Goal through these discussions is to empower you to better 20 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:06,920 Speaker 3: navigate yours and move with intention so that you can 21 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:10,959 Speaker 3: stride towards your own big potential and of course have 22 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:16,520 Speaker 3: some fun along the way. Today, I am so excited 23 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:20,200 Speaker 3: to be bringing you my conversation with Les Alfred. She 24 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:23,320 Speaker 3: is the host of the Balanced Black Girl podcast. She's 25 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 3: also a certified yoga teacher, and honestly, her voice is 26 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:29,679 Speaker 3: perhaps the most calming thing that I have listened to 27 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:36,039 Speaker 3: in months, next to my three minute headspace meditations. For 28 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:39,200 Speaker 3: today's Chad, we are talking all about the power of discipline, 29 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:42,639 Speaker 3: how to have it, want to let go, and tools 30 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 3: to harness when it feels like your discipline is waning. 31 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 3: We also talk about where we can both be more 32 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 3: disciplined in our own lives and where discipline has been 33 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 3: a total game changer for me personally that is one 34 00:01:56,520 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 3: hundred percent within my morning routine. 35 00:01:58,320 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 4: I'll link to the. 36 00:01:58,880 --> 00:02:02,160 Speaker 3: Episode that I did on how to be a Morning 37 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 3: Person in the show notes. 38 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 4: Some quick housekeeping to do here. I do want to. 39 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 3: Say a belated Happy International Women's Day to everybody listening 40 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:14,320 Speaker 3: to this. I know my audience is mostly women, and 41 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:17,520 Speaker 3: for that I am so grateful and so thankful for 42 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:20,959 Speaker 3: you and love the opportunity to lift you all up 43 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 3: each and every day, just like you do for me. 44 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 4: One week till the DC event. 45 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:29,680 Speaker 3: More tickets for that are available via the link in 46 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 3: the show notes, and if you are not yet following 47 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 3: along with the Hurdle Instagram. You're gonna want to go 48 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:38,080 Speaker 3: over to at Hurdle podcast because I am hosting a 49 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:41,520 Speaker 3: huge giveaway with my friends at Priority Bicycles, offering a 50 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 3: six hundred dollars gift card to one lucky hurdler. All 51 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:47,440 Speaker 3: you have to do is tell me one hurdle that 52 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:51,720 Speaker 3: you've conquered recently that made you really really proud. 53 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 4: Make sure you're following along with me. 54 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:58,239 Speaker 3: Also over at Emily A Body And with that, let's 55 00:02:58,280 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 3: get to hurdling. Today, I am sitting down with Les Alfred. 56 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 3: She is the host of the Balanced Black Girl podcast. 57 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:23,079 Speaker 1: How you doing today, Less, I'm good, I'm good. How 58 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:23,920 Speaker 1: are you doing today? 59 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:27,840 Speaker 4: I'm good. I have been following you on Instagram. 60 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:31,720 Speaker 3: We connected after that Today Show segment and it's just 61 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:33,639 Speaker 3: been like a crazy couple of weeks. 62 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 4: So for us to finally make this time, I'm really, really, 63 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 4: really really grateful for it. 64 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 1: Definitely, well thanks for having me. I mean, I think 65 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 1: your content's amazing, hurdles amazing, So I'm happy to be here. 66 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 4: Oh, you're so kind. 67 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 3: Tell us a little bit about you, about Balanced Black 68 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 3: Girl and how you started the show. 69 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 1: Yes, I have been a self proclaimed wellness junkie my 70 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:01,880 Speaker 1: entire adult life. Actually got interested in wellness when I 71 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 1: was in college and my first real internship job and 72 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 1: was honestly falling asleep at my desk every day and 73 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:14,120 Speaker 1: thought that that job was going to be my career. 74 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 1: And I was like, Okay, if I'm going to do 75 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:18,160 Speaker 1: this for another like forty years, I need to figure 76 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 1: out a way to get some energy. And so I 77 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:26,680 Speaker 1: started exercising, like actually drinking water, actually eating maybe a vegetable, 78 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:28,919 Speaker 1: which at that time, when I was twenty like, I 79 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:32,279 Speaker 1: was not doing any of those things, and started noticing 80 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:34,240 Speaker 1: a lot of positive changes and how I felt, and 81 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:38,960 Speaker 1: then feeling a lot more clarity and confidence and energy 82 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 1: that I was looking for. And the habits just started 83 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:45,279 Speaker 1: snowballing from there, which ended up leading to a career 84 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 1: in fitness, which led to blogging, which eventually led to podcasting. 85 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:53,400 Speaker 4: All of that very symbiotic together. 86 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:56,919 Speaker 3: While still we cannot not highlight this, you are still 87 00:04:57,040 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 3: also on top of all the things that you're doing 88 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 3: with Bounce black Girl, working a conventional nine to five. 89 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 4: I do I have a job? 90 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:07,280 Speaker 3: You said you work in tech? Correct, Yes, I work 91 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:10,240 Speaker 3: in tech. And then like podcasting you know, is its 92 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 3: own job. And then also like the influencer side of things, 93 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 3: it's its own job. So what we are gathering here 94 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 3: is that you know a thing or two about today's topic, 95 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 3: which is talking about discipline, how to have more of it. 96 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:30,600 Speaker 3: As someone who basically has at least one point five 97 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 3: to two full time jobs, you need to know about discipline. 98 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 1: Yes, I would say it's it's pretty necessary for my 99 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 1: day to day at this point, tell us. 100 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:47,280 Speaker 3: A little bit about why it is that this topic 101 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:49,280 Speaker 3: does resonate with you so deeply. 102 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I think discipline is something that I 103 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:57,360 Speaker 1: have been able to have with myself from a young age. 104 00:05:57,400 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 1: I've never been someone who needs a lot of extra 105 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 1: accountability or external motivation. If you're familiar with the four 106 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 1: tendencies by Gretchen Rubin, I'm like a textbook upholder, Like 107 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:11,320 Speaker 1: if I tell myself I'm going to do something, then 108 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:13,320 Speaker 1: I do it. And I've done that from a young age. 109 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 1: But as I've gotten older, I've had to learn how 110 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:21,279 Speaker 1: to balance for not to no pun intended that upholder 111 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:25,120 Speaker 1: tendency with learning how to be kind to myself, because 112 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:28,280 Speaker 1: oftentimes those two things don't necessarily go together. And I 113 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:32,279 Speaker 1: found that when you are someone who is pretty good 114 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:36,039 Speaker 1: at holding yourself accountable for things, you tend to have 115 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:38,840 Speaker 1: a lot of behaviors praised that are maybe not the 116 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 1: healthiest because to other people and to kind of the 117 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:46,400 Speaker 1: systems that be it seems like a really good thing. Meanwhile, 118 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 1: you're like not being very kind to yourself. And so, 119 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:52,719 Speaker 1: especially over the past few years, I've had to really learn, Okay, 120 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 1: how do I still maintain these commitments that I've made 121 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 1: to myself without like dragging myself through the mud. And 122 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:02,560 Speaker 1: it's a daily process. But I'm still learning. 123 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, I cannot even imagine having another Like I'm still 124 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:12,560 Speaker 3: I'm so impressed by you and the amount of work 125 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:16,960 Speaker 3: that you're able to just get through during your regular 126 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 3: day to day. So talk to me a little bit 127 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 3: about where we start when it comes to having discipline 128 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 3: with ourselves. 129 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 1: I think a lot of it starts with prioritization, so 130 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 1: it can feel like everything is important all the time, 131 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:36,080 Speaker 1: whether that is work, whether that is social obligations, whether 132 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:39,200 Speaker 1: that is family obligations, especially for those who are parents 133 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:44,560 Speaker 1: or caregivers, that's like a whole different ballgame. What I've 134 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 1: found is being really helpful? Is like, Okay, what is essential? 135 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:50,720 Speaker 1: What is it that needs to get done? Like if 136 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:53,240 Speaker 1: I do not do XYZ, are the wheels going to 137 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 1: fall off the bus? And making those things top priority 138 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:02,240 Speaker 1: for everything else? E is a nice to have? Or 139 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:08,120 Speaker 1: is maybe a restriction or a deadline or some sort 140 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 1: of pressure that I put on myself. That's where I 141 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:13,400 Speaker 1: like to go back and reevaluate. Okay, is this necessary 142 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 1: in this way? Is this a promise that I need 143 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:18,120 Speaker 1: to keep to myself in this moment or would it 144 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:20,920 Speaker 1: be more kind to myself to give myself spaciousness here 145 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:26,040 Speaker 1: so after those really top priorities have been accounted for. 146 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 1: From there, allowing yourself a little bit of spaciousness to 147 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:31,320 Speaker 1: pour into yourself a little bit so that you have 148 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:32,840 Speaker 1: the energy to keep going. 149 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 3: What would you say to people who have difficulty in 150 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 3: creating that spaciousness and having that grace with themselves. 151 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:44,080 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I so get it. I literally just 152 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:47,680 Speaker 1: went through it this morning. I woke up before my 153 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:51,640 Speaker 1: alarm because I was feeling super anxious because production for 154 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:54,000 Speaker 1: some of the upcoming episodes of my podcasts are just 155 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:56,880 Speaker 1: not going how I wanted them to, and the production 156 00:08:57,000 --> 00:09:00,320 Speaker 1: schedule that I wanted to have is just not it's 157 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:01,920 Speaker 1: just not working, Like I'm not going to be able 158 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:05,840 Speaker 1: to publish the episodes that I want when I wanted. 159 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:08,440 Speaker 1: And it literally like woke me up out of my sleep, 160 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:13,040 Speaker 1: not going to fail you, and I had to be like, Okay, listen, 161 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:16,120 Speaker 1: I'm in control of this, Like these deadlines that I've 162 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:19,640 Speaker 1: created are not real. And if I publish this certain 163 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 1: episode a week later to allow myself a little bit 164 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:26,439 Speaker 1: more space for it to come together without creating all 165 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 1: of the stress for myself, that's okay. And I think 166 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 1: sometimes we do have a lot of flexibility even when 167 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:34,880 Speaker 1: it feels like we don't to either ask for support, 168 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:38,000 Speaker 1: to ask for an extension, to find ways to bring 169 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:40,480 Speaker 1: on help, or to push something back for later to 170 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:45,200 Speaker 1: give ourselves a little bit more time. And sometimes admitting 171 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 1: that it can feel like failure. It can feel like, ugh, 172 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:50,560 Speaker 1: I'm not able to keep this promise to myself in 173 00:09:50,559 --> 00:09:52,680 Speaker 1: this way, or I'm not able to follow through in 174 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:54,959 Speaker 1: the way that I wanted. But I actually think that 175 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:57,280 Speaker 1: when you're able to give yourself spaciousness, you're able to 176 00:09:57,320 --> 00:10:00,360 Speaker 1: follow through even better because you're able to to do 177 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:02,880 Speaker 1: it with kindness. And realizing that a lot of the 178 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:05,600 Speaker 1: restrictions that we put on ourselves and even the restrictions 179 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:08,760 Speaker 1: that other people put on us, are not real. It's not. 180 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:11,280 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, and that's really true, right, because if 181 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:15,080 Speaker 3: you are willing to open yourself up and get a 182 00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:18,120 Speaker 3: little vulnerable and be like, hey, I could use a 183 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:20,640 Speaker 3: little bit of help, I mean, that is something that 184 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 3: I've really been leaning into lately. Obviously, you and I 185 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:28,440 Speaker 3: share this same self motivated vibe, and it can be 186 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:33,160 Speaker 3: really difficult to look at someone and say I'm struggling here. 187 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:36,440 Speaker 3: But when you do get to this place where you 188 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:38,960 Speaker 3: learn how to be okay with that, it can be 189 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:44,000 Speaker 3: really special and really like comforting. And we can find 190 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:47,720 Speaker 3: so much support in the fact that our communities, our friends, 191 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:51,400 Speaker 3: our family members, even our colleagues, they want to show 192 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 3: up for you, they want to show up for us 193 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 3: if we choose to let them do that. 194 00:10:57,280 --> 00:10:59,400 Speaker 1: One hundred percent, and then that's when we can really 195 00:10:59,400 --> 00:11:03,400 Speaker 1: show up for the things that truly matter, right right. 196 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:03,920 Speaker 4: Right, Okay. 197 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:08,160 Speaker 3: So the first step to having some discipline with yourself 198 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:11,920 Speaker 3: is also it seems to be having some grace with yourself. 199 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 3: Knowing that you could put the most perfect systems in play, 200 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:18,560 Speaker 3: but there are always going to be some things that 201 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:21,040 Speaker 3: fall out of your control. Now, when it comes to 202 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:24,079 Speaker 3: actually executing on this discipline, maybe if we start by 203 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:28,320 Speaker 3: giving a concrete example, say someone wants to start incorporating 204 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:31,319 Speaker 3: I know that you spoke about this in your episode 205 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:35,559 Speaker 3: on discipline meditation into their regular routine. What advice would 206 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:38,040 Speaker 3: you lend to this person if they were interested in 207 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:41,440 Speaker 3: being disciplined about that choice? 208 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 1: Absolutely? Oh, I love this question. So I think that 209 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:47,640 Speaker 1: when we're trying to become disciplined about new habits, it's 210 00:11:47,679 --> 00:11:50,640 Speaker 1: really all about meeting ourselves where we're at, and I 211 00:11:50,640 --> 00:11:53,320 Speaker 1: think where a lot of us, and myself included, I've 212 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:55,440 Speaker 1: done this too, a lot of us. We tend to 213 00:11:55,480 --> 00:12:00,040 Speaker 1: go wrong creating new habits, trying to create habits for 214 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:03,240 Speaker 1: somebody that is not us, maybe trying to create habits 215 00:12:03,280 --> 00:12:06,320 Speaker 1: for a future version of ourselves. And once that habit 216 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 1: is implemented, yes, we can be that future version of ourselves. 217 00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:12,200 Speaker 1: But who we are today has to be the person 218 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:15,720 Speaker 1: to actually do that thing. So if you've never meditated 219 00:12:15,800 --> 00:12:18,160 Speaker 1: a day in your life, thinking that you're going to 220 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:21,080 Speaker 1: do like a thirty minute silent meditation every day is 221 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:24,760 Speaker 1: probably not the best place to start. But if you 222 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:30,200 Speaker 1: can literally spend five minutes in the morning meditating before 223 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 1: reaching for your phone, or maybe during your daily walk, 224 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:36,559 Speaker 1: not bringing your phone or your headphones with you and 225 00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:40,680 Speaker 1: walking in silence and seeing that time as meditation to 226 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:43,480 Speaker 1: make it that much easier to meet yourself where you're at, 227 00:12:43,720 --> 00:12:46,520 Speaker 1: then you can continue building upon that, and that's when 228 00:12:46,520 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 1: that consistency is likely to lead to better discipline with 229 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:50,200 Speaker 1: that habit. 230 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:53,640 Speaker 3: Such a good recommendation, I mean, what we're talking about 231 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:57,000 Speaker 3: here is setting goals that are relevant to what's going 232 00:12:57,040 --> 00:13:01,000 Speaker 3: on in this person's situation, in this person's life. 233 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:02,520 Speaker 4: Another example that. 234 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:05,720 Speaker 3: I love to give is if you feel as though 235 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:08,640 Speaker 3: you are someone that is quote unquote not good at 236 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:13,320 Speaker 3: drinking water, then you're not going to tomorrow start drinking 237 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:16,720 Speaker 3: eight glasses of water a day. Instead, if you can 238 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:20,440 Speaker 3: set a specific goal that is measurable and relevant to 239 00:13:20,760 --> 00:13:24,400 Speaker 3: who you are, maybe I'm going to drink two glasses 240 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 3: of water today, then celebrate that small win if that's 241 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:30,800 Speaker 3: something that you can do regularly, because the endgame here 242 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:34,000 Speaker 3: is doing something that's good for your health, not just 243 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:38,760 Speaker 3: health in general, but for you specifically and your body. 244 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:42,360 Speaker 1: Oh one hundred percent. And it's like if you're someone 245 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:45,200 Speaker 1: who wants to drink more water and you love you 246 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:47,240 Speaker 1: some diet coke, Like, I'm not going to tell you 247 00:13:47,280 --> 00:13:49,199 Speaker 1: to not drink diet coke, but I'm going to say, 248 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:52,480 Speaker 1: maybe have a glass of water before your diet coke 249 00:13:52,559 --> 00:13:55,840 Speaker 1: each day, because you are a diet coke drinker. That's 250 00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:57,880 Speaker 1: who you are. And then you're not compromising who you 251 00:13:57,920 --> 00:13:59,600 Speaker 1: are and you're helping to reach your goal. 252 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:03,880 Speaker 4: I love it. You heard it here first Less says 253 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:07,200 Speaker 4: pre DC. You've got to have some h duo. 254 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:12,640 Speaker 1: That's the trick. Just it's like putting behaviors in place 255 00:14:12,679 --> 00:14:15,320 Speaker 1: for who you already are instead of trying to force 256 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:18,000 Speaker 1: yourself to be something else, because that's just it doesn't work. 257 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:19,440 Speaker 4: It doesn't work. 258 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:22,240 Speaker 3: But the cool thing is is that when you start 259 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:25,720 Speaker 3: to adopt these healthier habits, if that is you know 260 00:14:25,760 --> 00:14:29,160 Speaker 3: what we're talking about with regard to discipline, then over 261 00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:34,119 Speaker 3: time you bay slowly become a upgraded version of yourself 262 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:37,840 Speaker 3: and then you can adjust or modify your goals or 263 00:14:37,880 --> 00:14:39,800 Speaker 3: your wants and desires as needed. 264 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:42,200 Speaker 1: Exactly, That's exactly it. 265 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:46,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, So okay, So this person, now they're meeting themselves 266 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 3: where they're at, they're having some grace with themselves, But 267 00:14:49,920 --> 00:14:52,360 Speaker 3: what do you say to the person who wants to 268 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:55,560 Speaker 3: be disciplined in every single area all at once? 269 00:14:56,040 --> 00:15:00,240 Speaker 1: So talking to my twenty two year old self, is 270 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:02,760 Speaker 1: that what we're is that what we're doing here? 271 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:05,240 Speaker 4: I think part of it. 272 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:09,080 Speaker 1: Is also defining what discipline looks like for you, because 273 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:11,000 Speaker 1: I also know that there were times in my life 274 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:13,680 Speaker 1: where I was trying to be disciplined in every area 275 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:16,040 Speaker 1: of my life. Maybe I wanted to perform a certain 276 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:17,840 Speaker 1: way at work, and then I wanted to perform a 277 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:19,760 Speaker 1: certain way at the gym, and then as I was 278 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:21,880 Speaker 1: starting to get into content creation, I wanted to be 279 00:15:21,880 --> 00:15:25,960 Speaker 1: disciplined with that. I was using other people's measures of 280 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:28,280 Speaker 1: success for those things, and I think that can be 281 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 1: especially tempting. When we're trying something new, or when we're 282 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:33,240 Speaker 1: adopting a new habit. It's like we want to do 283 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:36,120 Speaker 1: it exactly how we see someone else do it, and 284 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:38,640 Speaker 1: if we're not doing it that way, then it's failure. 285 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:43,560 Speaker 1: And I think learning how to figure out what discipline 286 00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:47,240 Speaker 1: looks like in those various areas for yourself is really 287 00:15:47,280 --> 00:15:50,080 Speaker 1: really valuable because that way you can gauge like does 288 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:52,920 Speaker 1: this feel good? Am I even aligned to this goal? 289 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:55,200 Speaker 1: Like why do I want to be disciplined in these 290 00:15:55,240 --> 00:15:57,480 Speaker 1: other areas? What does that even look like for me? 291 00:15:58,240 --> 00:16:01,040 Speaker 1: Do I need to be? 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Again that's 339 00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:58,600 Speaker 3: Athleticgreens dot com slash hurdle, No code necessary, super helpful. 340 00:18:58,680 --> 00:19:01,840 Speaker 3: And if you are trying to be disciplined to acting 341 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:05,240 Speaker 3: on something that you see on social media or basing 342 00:19:05,359 --> 00:19:09,520 Speaker 3: your own experiences off of somebody else's goals, then there 343 00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:13,120 Speaker 3: is an inevitable letdown just lingering in your future. 344 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:15,200 Speaker 4: And that is what we want to avoid. 345 00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:18,879 Speaker 3: So getting really honest about the things that you really 346 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:21,439 Speaker 3: care about, the things that are again we use this 347 00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:27,120 Speaker 3: buzzword priorities for you is step like you know, negative 348 00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:31,520 Speaker 3: one when it comes to executing on your personal discipline 349 00:19:31,680 --> 00:19:35,720 Speaker 3: one percent. This person then starting to see some small 350 00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:39,560 Speaker 3: wins in the regular routine, feeling as though they're starting 351 00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:42,720 Speaker 3: to get things under control, but then they have a 352 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:43,280 Speaker 3: slip up. 353 00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:44,920 Speaker 4: It happens to all of us. 354 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:47,800 Speaker 3: Yes, when you have these slip ups, what is your 355 00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:50,280 Speaker 3: advice to the people that are listening. 356 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:56,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, Oh, slip ups quickly turn into snowballs. And so 357 00:19:56,840 --> 00:20:01,200 Speaker 1: I think if you can acknowledge it before it's snowballs, 358 00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:03,399 Speaker 1: that can be super helpful. And if you acknowledge it 359 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:06,200 Speaker 1: after it's snowballs, that's okay to not throw in the towel. 360 00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:08,920 Speaker 1: But I think it's important to understand, like where does 361 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:10,040 Speaker 1: a slip up come from? 362 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:11,639 Speaker 4: What led to that? 363 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:18,359 Speaker 1: What were you either trying to soothe or accommodate for 364 00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:22,840 Speaker 1: or like For me, that's usually my thing is my 365 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:26,159 Speaker 1: biggest slip up is usually like screen time on my 366 00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:30,400 Speaker 1: phone goes through the roof. That's usually like my biggest 367 00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:32,359 Speaker 1: slip up is how much time did I spend on 368 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:34,960 Speaker 1: TikTok today? How much time did I spend on Instagram 369 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:38,840 Speaker 1: today far beyond my screen limit goals or nothing that 370 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:40,959 Speaker 1: would be considered work by any means. And so when 371 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:43,400 Speaker 1: I'm like, Okay, why was I doing that? Like, let 372 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:45,879 Speaker 1: me question that behavior, I usually find it's because I 373 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:49,199 Speaker 1: was procrastinating on some other tasks, or why was I 374 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:52,520 Speaker 1: procrastinating on some other task because it's really uncomfortable and 375 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:54,160 Speaker 1: I didn't know how to do it, and I think 376 00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:56,200 Speaker 1: I need help, but I honestly don't even know where 377 00:20:56,200 --> 00:20:58,040 Speaker 1: to turn to for help, so I just zoned out 378 00:20:58,080 --> 00:21:00,959 Speaker 1: on TikTok instead. And it's like, Okay, now that I 379 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:04,960 Speaker 1: know why I was conducting this behavior and had this 380 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:08,479 Speaker 1: slip up, then I can actually solve the problem instead 381 00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:11,320 Speaker 1: of then just beating myself up about how I ruin 382 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:15,320 Speaker 1: my screen time metrics and was unproductive and then, you know, 383 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:18,720 Speaker 1: just go down this whole rabbit hole of continuing. 384 00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:20,919 Speaker 3: On that note, I feel like we go back to 385 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:24,400 Speaker 3: this idea of having grace with ourselves and also recognizing 386 00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:29,520 Speaker 3: that any single second is your opportunity to start over. Right, 387 00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:33,840 Speaker 3: So if this slip up happens, okay, we have a 388 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:37,359 Speaker 3: chance to learn from that, execute and understand via the 389 00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:41,439 Speaker 3: practices that you just explained, and then take that opportunity 390 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:45,840 Speaker 3: to then start fresh literally within seconds, within minutes, maybe 391 00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:47,800 Speaker 3: it's at the start of the new day, and. 392 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:50,680 Speaker 1: Then you can actually solve what the problem is. Because 393 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:53,400 Speaker 1: sometimes when we have these like quote unquote slip ups. 394 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:57,399 Speaker 1: We tend to reach for things that maybe make us 395 00:21:57,440 --> 00:22:01,360 Speaker 1: feel better in that moment, but then as soon as 396 00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:06,240 Speaker 1: that moment's over, you tend to feel worse. Whether it's 397 00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:09,520 Speaker 1: from like a sugar hangover or whether it's from a 398 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:13,359 Speaker 1: social media hangover. Those things don't actually solve the problem. 399 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:15,840 Speaker 1: And then what happens is what was initially bugging us 400 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:19,199 Speaker 1: is still bugging us. And then also whatever it is 401 00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:22,160 Speaker 1: that we were doing the self suit that didn't actually help, 402 00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:25,080 Speaker 1: also makes us not feel that great. So by solving 403 00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:27,680 Speaker 1: the initial problem or getting to that root of it, 404 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:29,680 Speaker 1: that's when we can actually find the relief. 405 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:31,920 Speaker 4: Definitely, definitely. 406 00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:35,879 Speaker 3: So when we think about discipline and like kind of 407 00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:38,359 Speaker 3: take a step back for a second in zoom out 408 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:44,320 Speaker 3: and we think about how tiring discipline can be at times, 409 00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:48,159 Speaker 3: I think this is probably the biggest quote unquote complaint 410 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:52,640 Speaker 3: that we see. Especially I mean, coming from a little 411 00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:55,320 Speaker 3: bit more of a sympathetic lens, a lot of us 412 00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:58,800 Speaker 3: feel extremely burnt out from the last couple of years 413 00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:02,879 Speaker 3: navigating gestures loosely how everything is going in the world. 414 00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:05,760 Speaker 3: So for those people that feel like they don't have 415 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:09,240 Speaker 3: the capacity for discipline, what do we say to. 416 00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:13,119 Speaker 1: Them, yeah, I say don't, but I say that like 417 00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:17,399 Speaker 1: don't don't, then don't do the thing, just don't. And 418 00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:19,359 Speaker 1: then if you're not going to do the thing own 419 00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:22,480 Speaker 1: not doing the thing, like don't sit and ruminate over 420 00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:25,760 Speaker 1: that thing that you're not doing. Let it go and 421 00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:28,919 Speaker 1: try again another time. But what happens is that we 422 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 1: tend to like decide we're not going to do the thing, 423 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:34,440 Speaker 1: like Okay, I'm tired, I'm exhausted, I'm not gonna go 424 00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:37,399 Speaker 1: for that run or clean the house or whatever the 425 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:40,200 Speaker 1: thing is. And then we sit and then we think 426 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:43,639 Speaker 1: about how much we should be doing the thing, and like, 427 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 1: if you're not going to do it, that's okay, don't 428 00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:49,040 Speaker 1: do it and let it go and maybe do it 429 00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:51,199 Speaker 1: next time. Maybe don't, but let it go. 430 00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:56,359 Speaker 3: It's hard, right, It feels easier said than done at times, 431 00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:59,400 Speaker 3: And I think sometimes when it comes to discipline, bringing 432 00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:01,680 Speaker 3: us kind of full circle here, you have to think 433 00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:04,760 Speaker 3: again about the things that bring you that enjoyment and 434 00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:09,560 Speaker 3: that thought that remember, like that moment in your head 435 00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:14,359 Speaker 3: is going to be the thing that motivates your discipline 436 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:17,280 Speaker 3: even on the days where you don't feel like it. 437 00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:19,840 Speaker 3: There's a difference between being like, I'm so burnt out. 438 00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:24,840 Speaker 3: This week has been hell. I just I literally cannot 439 00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:27,639 Speaker 3: right now, versus like being a little tired in your 440 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:30,440 Speaker 3: bed in the morning, knowing that your bed feels good, 441 00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:32,960 Speaker 3: but also knowing you're going to feel a lot better 442 00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:35,119 Speaker 3: if you get up and move your body for thirty minutes. 443 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:38,880 Speaker 1: Oh yeah. That being able to distinguish that is key, 444 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:40,359 Speaker 1: absolutely key. 445 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:42,879 Speaker 3: I also think something that can be really helpful that 446 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:45,119 Speaker 3: we haven't touched on yet when it comes to discipline 447 00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:49,800 Speaker 3: is roping other people into your experience, finding yourself some 448 00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:53,000 Speaker 3: sort of an accountability buddy for the things that you 449 00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:56,000 Speaker 3: might need a little extra love on when it comes 450 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:59,000 Speaker 3: to holding firm in that discipline. Have you ever done 451 00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:01,040 Speaker 3: anything like that? Have you ever reached out to accountability 452 00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:04,360 Speaker 3: buddies for that? I definitely have. I definitely have. It's 453 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:10,080 Speaker 3: something that I personally struggle with as someone who is 454 00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:13,440 Speaker 3: usually very hard on myself. It's like, all day long, 455 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:15,560 Speaker 3: I'm repeating to myself the things that I need to 456 00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:17,640 Speaker 3: be doing, and then as soon as someone else asks 457 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:18,560 Speaker 3: about it, I'm like. 458 00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:22,639 Speaker 1: It's on repeat in my head all day. But I 459 00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:24,679 Speaker 1: do think that for those people who are not like 460 00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:27,760 Speaker 1: the upholder who need a little bit more of that 461 00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:31,680 Speaker 1: external motivation, it can be so helpful. I think a 462 00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:34,639 Speaker 1: place where we really see this be particularly helpful is 463 00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:37,199 Speaker 1: in fitness. Like I spent ten years working as a 464 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:40,280 Speaker 1: personal trainer, So for clients who were seeking my support, 465 00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:42,879 Speaker 1: knowing that they paid me for a session, or that 466 00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:44,600 Speaker 1: I would be looking for them if they didn't show 467 00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:47,879 Speaker 1: up for the gym would be incredibly helpful. Those people 468 00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:51,359 Speaker 1: who love group fitness and like that is what keeps 469 00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:55,080 Speaker 1: them in it, it can be incredibly incredibly helpful. 470 00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:58,000 Speaker 3: What other tips do you have for us anything we 471 00:25:58,040 --> 00:25:59,320 Speaker 3: haven't touched on yet? 472 00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:03,359 Speaker 1: Goodness, that's a great question. You know. When I think 473 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:06,000 Speaker 1: about discipline and when I think about times where I 474 00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:09,520 Speaker 1: need to muster up a little bit more discipline than others, 475 00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:13,560 Speaker 1: it's usually when I'm thinking about keeping a promise to myself, 476 00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:17,119 Speaker 1: and I find that when I'm able to best follow 477 00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:19,199 Speaker 1: through with that, it's what I've made a promise to 478 00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:23,720 Speaker 1: myself that feels really meaningful versus the times that I don't. 479 00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:25,920 Speaker 1: It's like maybe I made a promise to myself that 480 00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:28,800 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, actually, I didn't care that much about that. 481 00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:32,919 Speaker 1: And so for anybody looking to have more discipline, I 482 00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:35,720 Speaker 1: invite you to constantly look at those promises that you 483 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:38,600 Speaker 1: are making to yourself, audit them. Do they still matter? 484 00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:41,119 Speaker 1: Do they matter today? Will they matter tomorrow? Will they 485 00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:44,120 Speaker 1: matter in five years? For those things that are resounding yes, 486 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:46,040 Speaker 1: then those are going to be the things that you 487 00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:48,840 Speaker 1: really want to prioritize and look at and have those 488 00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:50,679 Speaker 1: promises that you want to keep to yourself. And for 489 00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:53,879 Speaker 1: those things where it's like not so much, be flexible 490 00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:54,199 Speaker 1: with it. 491 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:55,680 Speaker 4: Be flexible with it. 492 00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:58,800 Speaker 3: What would you say right now you are focused on 493 00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:00,800 Speaker 3: in terms of discipline, and what are you trying to 494 00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:02,880 Speaker 3: be more disciplined with in your life? Yeah? 495 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:04,760 Speaker 1: I love this question, So I would say for me 496 00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:12,159 Speaker 1: definitely is my finances. I'm like literally so close to 497 00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:16,399 Speaker 1: paying off my student loans that I have had for 498 00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:19,080 Speaker 1: a really long time. And it's going to be the 499 00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:22,439 Speaker 1: first time in my adult life like not having debt 500 00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:26,440 Speaker 1: and not having that kind of burden over my head. 501 00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:29,280 Speaker 1: And I graduated with a lot of debt and it's 502 00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:31,520 Speaker 1: taken a long time to pay it off, and I've 503 00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:34,320 Speaker 1: had a lot of discipline with it for a long time, 504 00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:36,520 Speaker 1: which is why I'm so close to paying it off, 505 00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:39,679 Speaker 1: but really being in the home stretch, Like there's so 506 00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:42,639 Speaker 1: many times where it would be so tempting to like 507 00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:47,960 Speaker 1: go to Aritzia and get the TikTok that girl es 508 00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:52,080 Speaker 1: that I felt want to so bad, And then I 509 00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:55,840 Speaker 1: log into my statement and I'm like, man, you know, 510 00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:59,760 Speaker 1: those items would probably feel really good in the moment, 511 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:03,960 Speaker 1: and I'm buying it, but like putting that towards knocking 512 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:07,960 Speaker 1: down this debt for me would actually feel far better 513 00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:10,760 Speaker 1: for far longer, And so I keep making the choice 514 00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:14,760 Speaker 1: to do that over and over. So that's been pretty rewarding. 515 00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:18,400 Speaker 1: We love discipline and finances. 516 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:21,679 Speaker 3: I feel like lately money for me has been like 517 00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:25,760 Speaker 3: a hot button topic and thinking about investing and budgeting 518 00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:27,600 Speaker 3: and just being a little bit better with it. I 519 00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:29,840 Speaker 3: think it also goes hand in hand with tax season, 520 00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:35,040 Speaker 3: so I totally totally hear the creator tax season. I right, gosh, 521 00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:41,000 Speaker 3: it is every year it gets real real. What else 522 00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:43,640 Speaker 3: excites to you right now, Leash. 523 00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:46,600 Speaker 1: That's such a great question. You know, I'm excited about spring. 524 00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:48,760 Speaker 1: We were kind of talking about this earlier before we 525 00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:51,680 Speaker 1: started recording. I feel like I just come alive when 526 00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:54,120 Speaker 1: the days become longer, we can spend a little bit 527 00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:57,800 Speaker 1: more time outside being active. It's just that time of 528 00:28:57,880 --> 00:28:59,880 Speaker 1: year when so many of us kind of come alive, 529 00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:05,480 Speaker 1: and I'm really excited to move towards longer days. 530 00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:07,440 Speaker 4: You and me both. 531 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:11,400 Speaker 3: I am feeling excited about spring. I'm also feeling really 532 00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:15,560 Speaker 3: excited to be disciplined. After this conversation, talk to me 533 00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:18,120 Speaker 3: a little bit. Tell the hurdlers where they can find you, 534 00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:20,400 Speaker 3: where they can follow along with you, keep up with you, 535 00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:22,440 Speaker 3: give us all of your details. 536 00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:25,760 Speaker 1: Yes, so you can find my podcast Balanced Black Girl. 537 00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:28,960 Speaker 1: Wherever you're listening to this podcast, we're here too, coming 538 00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:33,240 Speaker 1: out with new episodes every Tuesday with myself, other women 539 00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:36,320 Speaker 1: of color wellness experts talking about all things wellness. We 540 00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:42,200 Speaker 1: talk about health, nutrition, hormones, spirituality, personal development, finances, like 541 00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:45,160 Speaker 1: anything related to well being. So you can find me there. 542 00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:49,520 Speaker 1: And then I'm on Instagram at balanced Less we love it. 543 00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:52,520 Speaker 3: I'm over at Emily a Body and at Hurdle Podcast 544 00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:54,480 Speaker 3: Another Hurdle Conquered. 545 00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:56,080 Speaker 4: Catch you guys next time.