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Speaker 1: Still the Place with Laura Layton, Courtney Thorn Smith.

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Speaker 2: And Daphne's Aniga an iHeartRadio podcast. Hello everyone, are you guys?

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Speaker 3: So good to see you, Always good to see you.

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Speaker 3: The recap today another recap, So wild.

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Speaker 2: How this show is not what I in my mind

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Speaker 2: thirty whatever years later. The show is so much more

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Speaker 2: than I thought it was.

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Speaker 1: It's this episode especially, is very different from what we've

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Speaker 1: gotten used to in our Melrose world.

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Speaker 4: Well, yeah, and like the last one too, Like we've

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Speaker 4: had now had two and row that are kind of

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Speaker 4: like a little darker, little heavier.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's such an interesting change of pace.

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Speaker 4: Our expectations are they've gotten going in one direction and.

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Speaker 2: It we're like I think, because we're still from like

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Speaker 2: Melrose whatever it was one point zero, we're getting into

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Speaker 2: the Melrose You know, we're still in season one and

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Speaker 2: the show really hit I think in season two and three, right,

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Speaker 2: so we're not quite to all the like craziness.

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Speaker 1: But I don't know if I've mentioned the ratings were

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Speaker 1: very bad in the beginning. I mentioned that before, you know.

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Speaker 3: You've mentioned it once or twice.

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Speaker 2: The miracle we're still on that air.

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Speaker 3: Something about this I think it was from you.

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Speaker 2: Court It's good great, Courtney was in the studio head

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Speaker 2: you that much we would gone would have been so over.

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Speaker 2: As you mentioned, this is a serious one. This is

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Speaker 2: episode twenty seven. It's called the Test.

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Speaker 4: And we're not talking about college admission testing. No, we

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Speaker 4: are not, or like this is an athletic prowess test.

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Speaker 2: Not yeah, No. This aired in nineteen ninety three, March

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Speaker 2: thirty first, and the test we're talking about is an

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Speaker 2: AIDS test. And this is sort of the height of

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Speaker 2: a lot of AIDS awareness going on in our media

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Speaker 2: and on our show, thanks to Aaron and Darren and

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Speaker 2: the writers, in the world and in the whole world

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Speaker 2: old after a decade of not enough attention. Okay, so

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Speaker 2: this episode, episode twenty seven, the test refers to our

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Speaker 2: a storyline which opens the show with Joe and Jake fill.

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Speaker 4: In the blank in ind bed but his time not

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Speaker 4: in the not in the pink satin sheets, no.

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Speaker 2: But sort of move sheets manly plaid manly move and

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Speaker 2: the plaid it.

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Speaker 3: There was maybe move.

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Speaker 4: He has a sensitive side, Jake, so I supposed I

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Speaker 4: think his actual pillowcases were plaid.

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Speaker 3: So it's like sort of a preppy.

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Speaker 2: At any rate. Joe has to. I had to utter

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Speaker 2: the cheesiest line ever. Yes, you did. What is it?

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Speaker 2: Cringe alert?

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Speaker 3: It was a sex pun.

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Speaker 2: It was a sex pun. We were as if we

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Speaker 2: had just done it. And then Joe says, I like

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Speaker 2: it better in the morning, and he says, yeah, why

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Speaker 2: use it gets my day out? Started with such a bang,

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Speaker 2: such a guy line.

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Speaker 1: I admitted, jaff you committed.

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Speaker 2: I was so impressed with read it. I had this

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Speaker 2: sort of like this memory stored in my cells, going,

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Speaker 2: oh my god, I remember that moment, and I'm sure

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Speaker 2: when I did it, I was like, who the hell

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Speaker 2: wrote this? Like I would never have said that.

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Speaker 4: But but you guys, the characters laughed at all and

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Speaker 4: made it fun and funny, like Joe knew she was

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Speaker 4: of telling it. Like you played it in such a

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Speaker 4: way that it was fine and we.

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Speaker 3: Did all laugh.

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Speaker 2: Oh well, thank you, Laura, and thank god.

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Speaker 1: Jake.

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Speaker 2: I'll say grant aka Jake, We're so was so loving

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Speaker 2: and it didn't turn him off. He just rolled over

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Speaker 2: me said, you're crazy girl. You get me going again.

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Speaker 3: I love dad jokes.

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Speaker 2: It was so sweet. Anyway, all right. So we're in

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Speaker 2: the middle of seeing what happens next with the two

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Speaker 2: the voice machine his ex girlfriend Perry's voice, which was

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Speaker 2: on the show several seasons, several episodes back, and she

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Speaker 2: just says, Jake, I need you to call me right away.

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Speaker 2: And we do know that we're going to find out

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Speaker 2: later that she was a drug user, but she got

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Speaker 2: And that's when the doctor says, you have AIDS. So

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Speaker 2: He's pissed. Yeah. He has a very aggressive reaction to her, like,

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Speaker 2: then he's says he's as I said, he's terrified, and

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Speaker 2: and she knows that Perry is called, so she's kind

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Speaker 2: of misunderstanding what went on with them on that phone call.

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Speaker 2: And then Jake actually talks to Matt about it and

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Speaker 2: asks advice, and Matt, you know, says that he lost

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Speaker 2: he breaks the news to her. And I remember shooting

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Speaker 2: a real issue in the zeitgeist in the world. Right then.

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Speaker 2: It wasn't just melrose Place drama. I definitely remember that anyway.

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Speaker 2: So he says, do you remember that time when we

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Speaker 3: Were at the rest sex capades, the sex.

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Speaker 2: Capaid and before the food comes, are like, we got

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Speaker 2: to get out of here, and they run home. And

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Speaker 2: neither of them wanted to break the mood with pulling

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Speaker 2: didn't want to break the mood, you know. So people

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Speaker 2: But it was a really sweet scene, I thought. By

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Speaker 2: what this test is going to tell them. They either

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Speaker 2: have a potentially deadly disease or not. And he says

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Speaker 2: for the first time. He says he loves her. She

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Speaker 2: then the light, you know, the camera pulls out and

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Speaker 2: that he's tested positive. Of course, we'd use that recently

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Speaker 2: He wakes up in the morning in the desert in

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Speaker 2: They do both test negative. They each go to their

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Speaker 2: where each of them ask very pointed questions about it

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Speaker 2: so that our audience can get the answers, just as

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Speaker 2: our characters Joe and Jake will get answers. Doesn't mean

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Speaker 2: the virus. So that's another chance to tell our audience about,

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Speaker 2: I thought she Michelle Johnson was it, Yes, Yeah, that

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Speaker 2: he says, look, we've never given being friends to try.

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Speaker 2: because she's made Amanda in charge of hiring. So we're like, great,

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Speaker 3: She makes Amanda take her credit for it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he makes her decide to take her back, and

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Speaker 2: so she does. I mean, I really noticed the shoulder

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Speaker 2: real life, how you would order them from home Shopping

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Speaker 2: they still had Patrick Lippert Awards after this for years,

436
00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:16,040
Speaker 2: but he had Aids. This aired in March July. I

437
00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:21,640
Speaker 2: went to his memorial and in fact, me of ninety three,

438
00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:25,320
Speaker 2: they gave chip let me leave, said I was working

439
00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:27,080
Speaker 2: that day to go to that, and they shifted the

440
00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:30,960
Speaker 2: schedule and I so, I just I think that's why,

441
00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:34,480
Speaker 2: you know, it just feels heavy because it was heavy,

442
00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:39,720
Speaker 2: and these were very dedicated people, are writers and creators,

443
00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:43,120
Speaker 2: and they had to make every scene and I feel

444
00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:45,200
Speaker 2: like they did balance it with the light.

445
00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:50,679
Speaker 5: I mean to have Billy lying on his resume and

446
00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:54,240
Speaker 5: getting obviously busted at this new magazine and then having

447
00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:57,520
Speaker 5: that sexy boss hit on him and being weird.

448
00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:02,320
Speaker 2: I thought that was thought that was, you know, a

449
00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:05,640
Speaker 2: funny balance to balance it out a bit, the whole thing.

450
00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:08,280
Speaker 1: It was a little bit lighter. But it wasn't. It

451
00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:12,639
Speaker 1: wasn't sexy, right, It was this. I assume it's going

452
00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:14,959
Speaker 1: to go somewhere. I assume that the boss is going

453
00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:17,880
Speaker 1: to raise the heat on the sexual harassment, but right now,

454
00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:20,920
Speaker 1: it's just him trying to make it as a writer,

455
00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:25,160
Speaker 1: right and working his way into this business. So it wasn't.

456
00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:29,159
Speaker 1: It didn't have that jaunt silly, right, because he's going

457
00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:33,040
Speaker 1: to be sexual harassed. We assume, yeah, she's talking about

458
00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:34,280
Speaker 1: I'm sweaty.

459
00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:35,920
Speaker 3: Caught in his lies too.

460
00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:39,199
Speaker 4: We start to see that his resume lies may come

461
00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:42,000
Speaker 4: back to haunt him, although it's not clear if she

462
00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:46,199
Speaker 4: is aware that he's lying. But the partner that he's

463
00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:49,520
Speaker 4: at the desk with, yeah, one who sort of calls

464
00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:49,919
Speaker 4: him out like.

465
00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:52,359
Speaker 3: Hey, you went to Columbia, so did I and all

466
00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:55,480
Speaker 3: of a sudden, let's year yeah different.

467
00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:58,399
Speaker 1: Do you think he knows? Do you think the guy knows?

468
00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:01,960
Speaker 4: I mean, I certainly that because he calls him out

469
00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:04,080
Speaker 4: because you know, Billy tries to blow it off and

470
00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:06,560
Speaker 4: say it was a big school Well no, it's not,

471
00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:11,560
Speaker 4: you know, total, especially like within the journalism department. You know,

472
00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:13,480
Speaker 4: like you might know somebody that was only two years

473
00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:19,280
Speaker 4: apart in the same department. That is sort of funny,

474
00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:23,360
Speaker 4: But it did not seem clear to me whether the

475
00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:27,320
Speaker 4: female boss herself was aware that he lied all that

476
00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:31,359
Speaker 4: on his resume. She seems mostly just interested in him

477
00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:33,840
Speaker 4: because he's good looking and he's a good enough writer

478
00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:35,600
Speaker 4: that she wanted to give him the chance of the job.

479
00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:38,160
Speaker 2: And I think she was impressed with how he got in.

480
00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:41,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, she's gumption for doing what he did to get

481
00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:46,680
Speaker 4: in and lying about his Yeah, or was it always

482
00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:47,280
Speaker 4: just that.

483
00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:48,840
Speaker 2: He was cute?

484
00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:51,560
Speaker 1: It just ends on very strong, very fast. There's not

485
00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:54,120
Speaker 1: like there's not like a professional right.

486
00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:57,560
Speaker 4: And he was like good enough. Because what she was

487
00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:01,080
Speaker 4: really interested is that while he's cute, because we that

488
00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:05,040
Speaker 4: whole scene where she's asking him about if you were

489
00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:07,840
Speaker 4: next to me at the gym and it was me

490
00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:10,439
Speaker 4: and I was sweaty, would you be attracted to me?

491
00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:13,119
Speaker 3: Like totally it was so weird.

492
00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:16,040
Speaker 1: She goes, I go to the gym at five nights

493
00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:18,320
Speaker 1: a week. And there's this guy who looked just like you.

494
00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:21,560
Speaker 1: So we're really making it clearly like I looked.

495
00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:21,680
Speaker 3: Just like you.

496
00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:24,000
Speaker 1: I thought he had the hots for me. It's like, wow,

497
00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:25,360
Speaker 1: this is so on the.

498
00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:29,800
Speaker 4: Nose, super not subtle. Yeah, and he's so uncomfortable.

499
00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:35,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, this heels going.

500
00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:40,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, I find that attracted. Well. You know what's funny

501
00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:43,400
Speaker 1: too about this episode, like we I like the episode's

502
00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:46,400
Speaker 1: best where we're all we're all working with each other.

503
00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:49,320
Speaker 1: There's a lot of overlap. Like the last episode with

504
00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:52,760
Speaker 1: Billy's father dying, there's a we're all in scenes. It's

505
00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:56,640
Speaker 1: really interwoven. This was three completely separate storylines. I think

506
00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:59,119
Speaker 1: Billy and I had one scene together, a couple of

507
00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:00,960
Speaker 1: scenes together in the apartment and about him lying and

508
00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:04,639
Speaker 1: putting on his resume, and but that was it. Then

509
00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:07,360
Speaker 1: we're in these completely separate worlds.

510
00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:09,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, you guy.

511
00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:11,000
Speaker 1: They send you guys all the way to the desert,

512
00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:14,359
Speaker 1: like we're you're not in your apartment anymore. Yeah.

513
00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:14,680
Speaker 5: Yeah.

514
00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:18,159
Speaker 4: And Alison's busy trying to get her job back, and

515
00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:21,520
Speaker 4: and can we please can we just talk for twenty

516
00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:25,080
Speaker 4: minutes about how bad my hair and close.

517
00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:27,400
Speaker 2: Her hair clothes. I know I felt for you.

518
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:30,159
Speaker 1: It deserves a lot of time I must have. Like,

519
00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:32,920
Speaker 1: I'm like, was I growing my bangs up? I had

520
00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:34,959
Speaker 1: it back in a French braid that I clearly did

521
00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:39,560
Speaker 1: myself and just sprayed off my face like I was

522
00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:41,240
Speaker 1: gonna do gymnastics somewhere.

523
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:43,159
Speaker 2: What was I do? See?

524
00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:46,639
Speaker 4: I'm not assuming that you did it yourself because the

525
00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:49,639
Speaker 4: weird thing about that back French braid it was tied

526
00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:51,520
Speaker 4: with a giant scrunchy at the.

527
00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:55,400
Speaker 1: End, which I promised you I did myself, I promise you.

528
00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:59,800
Speaker 4: Then did you also do Billy's Bosses hair? Because she

529
00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:02,840
Speaker 4: had the same exact hairdoo in the same episode.

530
00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:05,480
Speaker 3: She had brandshack with the same scrinch that.

531
00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:07,160
Speaker 1: Was very in fashion.

532
00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:09,080
Speaker 3: Laura, I don't think you did.

533
00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:11,680
Speaker 1: Yes, it was it was, don't you remember, like that

534
00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:14,280
Speaker 1: little low pony with the big scrunchy. I remember it

535
00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:15,119
Speaker 1: was very cool. I got a life.

536
00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:17,080
Speaker 2: I mean, every time I saw that or your other

537
00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:21,400
Speaker 2: hairdoos against in a scene with Amanda, I'm just like, well,

538
00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:23,760
Speaker 2: she please just get a clue and do some nice

539
00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:27,000
Speaker 2: highlights and do what Amanda does. Because Heather always looks

540
00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:29,560
Speaker 2: amazing and she does nothing but have this hairtail on

541
00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:32,280
Speaker 2: your side, and I'm like, why is Alison going all

542
00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:34,440
Speaker 2: over and doing all these circus tricks with her hair?

543
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:38,680
Speaker 1: And then remember the outfit when I'm at the desk

544
00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:43,440
Speaker 1: and I've got huge voluminous linen pants, a weird mock

545
00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:50,200
Speaker 1: turtle turkur thing, and then a huge tapestry, Like, what

546
00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:53,000
Speaker 1: what happened? Did they not have my size and anything?

547
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:54,280
Speaker 1: Everything was huge?

548
00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:56,200
Speaker 2: Was Denise on vacation.

549
00:28:57,200 --> 00:28:59,840
Speaker 1: From mad at Me? You were friends with her? Did

550
00:28:59,880 --> 00:29:00,520
Speaker 1: I fend her?

551
00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:03,240
Speaker 2: Well?

552
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:07,600
Speaker 4: I think we see flashes of really really bad nineties nineties?

553
00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:11,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, not all of it is make a note?

554
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:12,719
Speaker 2: What were you thinking?

555
00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:17,360
Speaker 1: It wasn't fashion though? It was like but there was

556
00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:20,720
Speaker 1: no fitted thing. It was three huge layers, and next

557
00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:24,680
Speaker 1: to Amanda in her fitted top and tiny skirt.

558
00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:26,520
Speaker 2: It could have been from above. I wonder if Courtney

559
00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:29,400
Speaker 2: they said, look, we need to make they've decided that

560
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:32,520
Speaker 2: Amanda's a sexy one, because a lot of things are

561
00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:34,720
Speaker 2: they put to you with this baggy stuff because you're

562
00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:38,080
Speaker 2: you are sexy and you had this body and I'm

563
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:40,320
Speaker 2: wondering if it came from on top, you know how

564
00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:42,320
Speaker 2: they said, shorten the skirts. Well maybe they're like put

565
00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:43,920
Speaker 2: her in volume.

566
00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:46,360
Speaker 1: Against This is when they got the note this is

567
00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:50,680
Speaker 1: probably remember right after this bright tighter and Allison this

568
00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:54,760
Speaker 1: more tobably the episode, they were like, what is happening there?

569
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:57,080
Speaker 3: That has no more bricade?

570
00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:01,600
Speaker 1: Three layers of atpoestry like they just said, it was

571
00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:02,960
Speaker 1: like gone with the wind. They're like, you know what,

572
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:05,760
Speaker 1: nobody's using these curtains. Let's make these into a jacket

573
00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:06,320
Speaker 1: for Allison.

574
00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:07,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, totally.

575
00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:10,960
Speaker 4: Well I don't really want to see the giant braid

576
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:13,640
Speaker 4: down the back with a big scrunchy anymore, and a

577
00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:16,840
Speaker 4: business suit, even if that business suit is this pale

578
00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:20,480
Speaker 4: lime green with corset laces in the back, also bizarre,

579
00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:21,360
Speaker 4: like the whole.

580
00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:25,000
Speaker 1: Thing in the breasted dress with the person I think you.

581
00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:27,960
Speaker 2: Guys wore a lot of those, though, Court. I remember

582
00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:31,880
Speaker 2: Alison D and D had a lot of these suit skirts,

583
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:36,760
Speaker 2: suit jackets that were like with the shoulder blades, double breasted,

584
00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:41,040
Speaker 2: some big buttons, but older pads like this and then

585
00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:43,400
Speaker 2: a little skirt under. That's what I remember a lot

586
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:44,320
Speaker 2: of Well I do know.

587
00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:46,960
Speaker 1: Look I've said this before, but I had huge breasts

588
00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:48,520
Speaker 1: and I was so self consciously.

589
00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:50,480
Speaker 2: You know, you do keep saying that is there reason?

590
00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:54,040
Speaker 1: I know because because I'm watching it going holy smoked.

591
00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:55,600
Speaker 1: I mean I was so self conscious. So that was

592
00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:57,680
Speaker 1: kind of Denise was kind of stuck because I wanted

593
00:30:57,720 --> 00:30:59,880
Speaker 1: to hide. I didn't know that I should have been

594
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:01,800
Speaker 1: fitted right, It would have been better doing fitted, but

595
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:03,680
Speaker 1: I was trying to hide them, which means you end

596
00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:06,200
Speaker 1: up bringing these voluminous things with huge arms. Like I

597
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:08,600
Speaker 1: was looking at the way the arms were fitted and

598
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:10,760
Speaker 1: I was like, there are arms like huge.

599
00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:12,760
Speaker 2: Sweaters were like that too.

600
00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:15,720
Speaker 1: Nothing fitted. Everything was so huge. And then in this one,

601
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:18,280
Speaker 1: I had this like weird bra that had seen in

602
00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:20,960
Speaker 1: the front that looked like those fifties bras that were

603
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:26,560
Speaker 1: made of iron. I have a seam in my woice.

604
00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:32,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, not everybody has this like memorializing of

605
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:35,760
Speaker 4: their early twenties or their youth on film, and we

606
00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:38,080
Speaker 4: have this weird thing that we're we get to go

607
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:40,760
Speaker 4: back and see it for better or for worse, and

608
00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:43,320
Speaker 4: then just went to see the earlier version of ourselves.

609
00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:46,360
Speaker 4: Not everybody gets to have that, and everybody has to

610
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:47,480
Speaker 4: have it, and I don't.

611
00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:48,840
Speaker 2: Think a lot of it's flattering.

612
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:51,440
Speaker 4: Now, yeah, it's not always easy to see that, and

613
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:54,320
Speaker 4: it brings up those feelings like gosh, I remember feeling

614
00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:56,640
Speaker 4: insecure about this or that, and now I have to

615
00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:59,080
Speaker 4: watch it all over again, and I know.

616
00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:01,000
Speaker 3: That it's not it's not always easy.

617
00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:04,800
Speaker 1: Well, in the defense of all the hair and makeup people,

618
00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:07,040
Speaker 1: I had a rule that I would only give them

619
00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:10,280
Speaker 1: an hour to get ready. So so I do hair, makeup,

620
00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:12,000
Speaker 1: and wardrobe in an hour and I wouldn't give them

621
00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:14,200
Speaker 1: any more time. So some of that is my fault

622
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:15,840
Speaker 1: because you're like, well, we got to do the best

623
00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:16,560
Speaker 1: we can do it and.

624
00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:19,480
Speaker 2: Out so they were halfway through and then you just

625
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:21,680
Speaker 2: went back to your trailer to like do a quick

626
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:23,480
Speaker 2: friend's braid and grab a scrunchy.

627
00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:25,640
Speaker 3: I do my own braid.

628
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:29,240
Speaker 1: The I wasn't processing it. I never did anything. It

629
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:30,240
Speaker 1: would be there forever.

630
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:32,320
Speaker 2: Do you remember the guys would just breeze in and

631
00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:33,120
Speaker 2: breeze out like that.

632
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:35,760
Speaker 1: I wanted to be like the guys, and I was.

633
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:36,920
Speaker 3: I was the opposite.

634
00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:37,400
Speaker 1: For me.

635
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:41,000
Speaker 4: I was like, however long it takes, whatever, you know,

636
00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:43,480
Speaker 4: if I need actually worked so great, give me some

637
00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:44,040
Speaker 4: extra time.

638
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:46,800
Speaker 2: I remember being in the makeup trailer and I was like, Okay,

639
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:50,160
Speaker 2: I'm ready. I'm ready, and then Heather will be next

640
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:52,560
Speaker 2: to me, still getting like teased and this, and then

641
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:54,800
Speaker 2: I'm like, hey, can you I'm not quite ready yet.

642
00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:59,440
Speaker 2: Can see what she's doing. I'll be ready in a minute.

643
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:01,360
Speaker 2: So what a what are you using on the lip

644
00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:01,640
Speaker 2: over there?

645
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:05,400
Speaker 1: Lona didn't know and you remember that time too, like

646
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:07,480
Speaker 1: I'm looking, I'm clearly trying a new hairstar where I'm

647
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:10,440
Speaker 1: pulling it back. I didn't know, like now I've settled

648
00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:12,160
Speaker 1: on this hairdo that I will have for the rest

649
00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:14,440
Speaker 1: of my life. That it was just like I just

650
00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:16,760
Speaker 1: now I know. I'm like, this is what works. I'm

651
00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:19,400
Speaker 1: not going to try I'm not doing anything different anymore.

652
00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:20,000
Speaker 2: This is it.

653
00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:23,640
Speaker 1: So just lock it in because I feel like I

654
00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:28,160
Speaker 1: was trying something new and I was trying it on TV,

655
00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:30,960
Speaker 1: like that's where you want to try the huge amounts

656
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:33,000
Speaker 1: of hairspray and the homemade French braik.

657
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:35,720
Speaker 4: You know, on the topic of trying new hair on

658
00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:40,600
Speaker 4: television yet but totally, I kind of had a lot

659
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:43,560
Speaker 4: of experience in trying new things and just like going

660
00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:47,560
Speaker 4: out and pin with that, you know, in the under

661
00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:50,120
Speaker 4: the umbrella of like it was a character, but still

662
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:53,080
Speaker 4: you know it was like, Laura, don't your hair was

663
00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:54,600
Speaker 4: cut short, let's flip it out, you know.

664
00:33:55,040 --> 00:34:01,160
Speaker 2: Don't you remember them having instinct and initiating hair. I mean, yeah,

665
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:04,000
Speaker 2: I know went in with my They would kind of

666
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:05,960
Speaker 2: come up with their idea and I would either agree

667
00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:06,680
Speaker 2: or not agree.

668
00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:10,520
Speaker 4: Well my I mean, I mean my character and the

669
00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:13,120
Speaker 4: hair and stuff that was very I was specific and

670
00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:16,600
Speaker 4: I think unique on the show because I was definitely

671
00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:18,640
Speaker 4: sitting in the hairchair and we're going, what do we

672
00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:22,080
Speaker 4: want to do today? And we collectively would come up

673
00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:25,160
Speaker 4: with something that was, oh, this is funny for Sydney,

674
00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:27,440
Speaker 4: you know. So it wasn't necessarily a reflection of my

675
00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:31,239
Speaker 4: personal taste, but it was like, what do we think

676
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:33,600
Speaker 4: is really fun and funny for this character because we

677
00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:36,799
Speaker 4: seemed to be given the permission to do so, and

678
00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:41,920
Speaker 4: I thought that was a really fun element. Not fun Yeah,

679
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:43,920
Speaker 4: so I did. But other you know, other than that,

680
00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:47,279
Speaker 4: Like I I will say, in the nineties and in

681
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:50,200
Speaker 4: the eighties, I had some super bad hair. Like you're

682
00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:52,319
Speaker 4: saying Courtney, like you've settled on a haircut that like

683
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:55,160
Speaker 4: this works for me, This is this is what works.

684
00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:58,600
Speaker 4: I went through plenty of I tried everything, and I

685
00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:02,760
Speaker 4: have real bad I should try to find some really

686
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:05,160
Speaker 4: horrible that I cannot blame on a character.

687
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:08,160
Speaker 3: That was something I did all by myself, myself.

688
00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:09,760
Speaker 1: I picked it out of all the Yes.

689
00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:12,840
Speaker 2: I remember doing a movie in eighty six or seven

690
00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:15,040
Speaker 2: and they wanted me to get a perm.

691
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:16,399
Speaker 3: Oh, I got plenty of those.

692
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:19,959
Speaker 2: I got the perm. We frizzed it out, curled it out,

693
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:23,400
Speaker 2: they died a black and I just had this cool

694
00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:28,480
Speaker 2: like thing, Yeah, perm thing, Kartney, did you ever get it?

695
00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:32,319
Speaker 2: And shoulder blades? Honestly, I mean shoulder pads. Yeah.

696
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:33,920
Speaker 1: My sister gave me a home perm.

697
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:34,480
Speaker 3: I can show you.

698
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:36,120
Speaker 1: I have a picture of it right here. I carry

699
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:36,440
Speaker 1: it with me.

700
00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 4: I think we should we should all find a perm

701
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:40,560
Speaker 4: photo and share.

702
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:42,080
Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely, yeah.

703
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:45,200
Speaker 2: I think that perm that I got lasted two movies

704
00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:48,680
Speaker 2: because I remember another one right after. Well, we're just

705
00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:50,480
Speaker 2: gonna work with it. My mom.

706
00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:53,520
Speaker 4: There was one photo I remember from the seventies that

707
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:55,600
Speaker 4: my sister and I still just thin because the funniest

708
00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:59,080
Speaker 4: thing my mom had just given herself a PERM and

709
00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:01,880
Speaker 4: she was standing in the hallway of our house and

710
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:04,360
Speaker 4: her hair filled up almost the whole hallway.

711
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:10,680
Speaker 2: It's basically curling it and frying it with chemicals.

712
00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:13,000
Speaker 3: But it was there was a there was a bigger

713
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:15,319
Speaker 3: is better stage.

714
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:18,040
Speaker 1: My sister go to firm once at the beauty salon

715
00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:20,560
Speaker 1: and she was riding our bike back and do it

716
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:22,879
Speaker 1: using a hair pic on the way. By the time

717
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:25,240
Speaker 1: it was just like huge.

718
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:26,680
Speaker 2: She was horrified.

719
00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:28,799
Speaker 3: Yeah no, but we thought it looked good. That was

720
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:30,399
Speaker 3: what we were going for. Bigger the better.

721
00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:30,600
Speaker 4: No.

722
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:33,279
Speaker 1: I wanted that eight is enough the sister and eight

723
00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:35,440
Speaker 1: is enough the curly hair and straight bangs.

724
00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:37,000
Speaker 2: That's what I was going for.

725
00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:38,160
Speaker 1: I never achieved it.

726
00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:40,680
Speaker 3: Hmm. I don't think I ever tried that one.

727
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:42,560
Speaker 1: I think I just cry it now.

728
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:45,920
Speaker 4: It's never I should definitely try it. To try it now,

729
00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:49,000
Speaker 4: you're like Laura's that just sucker. She'll probably try it

730
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:50,160
Speaker 4: now if I tell her to on you.

731
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:51,960
Speaker 1: But you try to go You remember, you try to

732
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:54,360
Speaker 1: go in and say I want big loose and you

733
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:56,560
Speaker 1: can't do loose waves with the perm They say you can't,

734
00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:59,160
Speaker 1: but you can, and they put on those little tiny

735
00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:00,600
Speaker 1: things and the go it'll loosen up.

736
00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:01,759
Speaker 3: It doesn't loosen up.

737
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:03,440
Speaker 1: It doesn't loosen up ever.

738
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:09,520
Speaker 4: They're the tiniest little plastic rollers. The kink corkscrew like curls.

739
00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:12,799
Speaker 4: And then and it smells like a hard boiled egg.

740
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:13,479
Speaker 3: It's so bad.

741
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:19,879
Speaker 1: But so let's talk more about this girl line because

742
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:22,040
Speaker 1: Amanda has this great line that I wrote down. It

743
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:25,440
Speaker 1: made me laugh so hard. She says, so, so she's

744
00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:28,480
Speaker 1: Allison is forced on her to work with her again,

745
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:30,279
Speaker 1: and she's making her do all the drudge work, and

746
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:32,600
Speaker 1: she's she's rejecting all of her reports.

747
00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:33,120
Speaker 2: Yeah.

748
00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:36,560
Speaker 1: And then Allison in this very I loved my tone.

749
00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:39,279
Speaker 1: I was like, we were friends member.

750
00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:43,200
Speaker 2: Sucking up, sucking up. Yeah, remember.

751
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:45,799
Speaker 1: And then she says, let's get one thing clear. In

752
00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:47,480
Speaker 1: the past, we let friendship get in the way of

753
00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:50,960
Speaker 1: our professional relationship. Let's not make that mistake again.

754
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:52,200
Speaker 2: Yeah.

755
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:54,040
Speaker 1: Oh, and then I have to make this point. This

756
00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:58,440
Speaker 1: is on another storyline, but back when I have to

757
00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 1: go back to Joe and Jake because I forgot it

758
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:03,240
Speaker 1: about this. So Joe and Jake are in the desert

759
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:05,600
Speaker 1: and they're talking about life and our short life is

760
00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:09,080
Speaker 1: and Joe says, out of nowhere, I never thought I'd

761
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:11,200
Speaker 1: lived past thirty. That's how old my mother was when

762
00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:14,880
Speaker 1: she committed suicide. Yeah, and she just sort of dropped

763
00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:18,799
Speaker 1: it there. Jake doesn't say tell me more than he goes,

764
00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:23,520
Speaker 1: I love you, And then that was like, yeah.

765
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:24,120
Speaker 5: She.

766
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:26,440
Speaker 1: Red flag.

767
00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:28,640
Speaker 2: No, no, no, she has mentioned it before.

768
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:33,600
Speaker 4: Remind me when that was, because I don't remember it

769
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:38,840
Speaker 4: as as like making it makes sense. I felt like

770
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:41,440
Speaker 4: in that scene, like you're saying, Corney, that she really

771
00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:43,120
Speaker 4: just dropped it there, and I kind of went, yes,

772
00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:46,120
Speaker 4: well that was big, and it wasn't addressed enough because

773
00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:48,040
Speaker 4: then I started going, wait, did we already know this?

774
00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:48,319
Speaker 3: Did we?

775
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:51,840
Speaker 4: And I wasn't clear enough that we already knew this information.

776
00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:54,440
Speaker 4: I thought that was such huge information to just leave

777
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:55,040
Speaker 4: there right there.

778
00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:58,520
Speaker 2: And I remember her saying something when she first comes

779
00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:00,880
Speaker 2: in the show, and when she first I don't remember

780
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:02,080
Speaker 2: who she's talking to, but.

781
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:04,520
Speaker 1: That your mother died, not that she committed sue.

782
00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:06,839
Speaker 2: She committed suicide. But it wasn't a lot. It's not

783
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:11,120
Speaker 2: like a memorable part of Joe's history. But I do

784
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:16,560
Speaker 2: remember that, but it's still I think the whole thing is,

785
00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:19,360
Speaker 2: don't forget this is that limbo of they've taken the

786
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:22,680
Speaker 2: test and they don't know the result, and they're both

787
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:26,160
Speaker 2: talking about how, you know, really deep kind of like

788
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:30,440
Speaker 2: life changing perspective on life things. And so I think

789
00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:37,080
Speaker 2: she's sharing with him, you know, because they're really going deep.

790
00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:39,799
Speaker 2: They're both going deep, and so I just feel and

791
00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:42,200
Speaker 2: in the desert and all the parameters fall away, and

792
00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:44,880
Speaker 2: your roles that you usually are with each other fall away,

793
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:47,560
Speaker 2: and you know, you usually just jump in the sack

794
00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:51,600
Speaker 2: and get you know, tipsy or whatever or vice versa.

795
00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:55,920
Speaker 2: But you know, I don't. They don't have that. And

796
00:39:55,960 --> 00:40:00,759
Speaker 2: I think that I you know, because I think she's

797
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:03,839
Speaker 2: about thirty, right, so she's saying like I thought i'd

798
00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:07,359
Speaker 2: be dead soretly, and she could be. You know, they

799
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:10,560
Speaker 2: could be. They don't know. And yeah, scary because Perry

800
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:14,040
Speaker 2: just said we had unprotected sex not that long ago.

801
00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:18,640
Speaker 2: You've had it with your girlfriend, I have aids, go

802
00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:21,640
Speaker 2: get tested. And so this is a twenty four hours

803
00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:25,279
Speaker 2: or whatever where they're, oh my god, what if? And

804
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:27,560
Speaker 2: so you're imagining your life over And that's what I think.

805
00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:30,719
Speaker 3: Like that was, yeah, added to the It really.

806
00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:32,359
Speaker 2: Was added to their relationship too.

807
00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:34,759
Speaker 1: I think it deserved to follow the question. Let's just

808
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:37,080
Speaker 1: say that I think, yeah.

809
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:40,200
Speaker 4: You're a little curiosity something it felt like a lot to.

810
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:42,600
Speaker 2: Just buy or buy Jake saying well, what do you

811
00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:44,279
Speaker 2: mean by that? How did she do it? Or not?

812
00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:48,360
Speaker 4: Not that kind of follow up question, just more like

813
00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:54,279
Speaker 4: acknowledging that that must have been you know, while that's

814
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:55,160
Speaker 4: huge in your life.

815
00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:57,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you want to talk about it or something.

816
00:40:57,640 --> 00:40:58,120
Speaker 3: Who knows.

817
00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:00,240
Speaker 4: But it did feel like just sort of plopped there

818
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:01,719
Speaker 4: and that he didn't follow up.

819
00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:04,400
Speaker 2: Well, I guess for me a lot because I feel

820
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:07,759
Speaker 2: like all of their scenes were I mean up up

821
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:12,440
Speaker 2: in the the the muhall overlook at night that was

822
00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:16,120
Speaker 2: a big deal. That's where he says I may have

823
00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:18,200
Speaker 2: aids and you may have aids. You know, we got

824
00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:21,240
Speaker 2: to get tested. So I just feel like everyone, every

825
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:23,719
Speaker 2: scene that they went through was an invitation and a

826
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:27,879
Speaker 2: safety to go even deeper. That's what I felt, Yeah,

827
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:30,640
Speaker 2: remembering these scenes like, wow, we're going so by the

828
00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:32,719
Speaker 2: time I got there, it didn't seem like just to

829
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:34,520
Speaker 2: jump out to me. But that's because I was in

830
00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:35,200
Speaker 2: the storyline.

831
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:38,680
Speaker 4: I think, Well, I think in this episode two, we

832
00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:45,040
Speaker 4: see that we're firmly we've turned the corner for Amanda

833
00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:49,600
Speaker 4: to be bitchy like her character is going to be bitchy,

834
00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:53,400
Speaker 4: where as if it started, you know, with maybe not

835
00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:55,920
Speaker 4: having her. I think now we're clear that's going to

836
00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:59,640
Speaker 4: be okay for her character. And I also think we

837
00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:02,600
Speaker 4: leave a established firmly that, like Matt is the go

838
00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:05,760
Speaker 4: to guy if you need advice or just a shoulder

839
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:07,000
Speaker 4: or just somebody to listen.

840
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:10,239
Speaker 3: There's going to be a reason for Matt to be

841
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:10,680
Speaker 3: that guy.

842
00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:14,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it really sort of moved off Billy Allison,

843
00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:17,640
Speaker 1: like they just seem like total roommates again. So they

844
00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:20,839
Speaker 1: got really really close and now they seem like roommates again.

845
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:23,080
Speaker 1: So it'll be interesting to see in the next episode.

846
00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:25,360
Speaker 1: I did look ahead because I was like, what is next?

847
00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:27,959
Speaker 1: Is like this poor friend, this it'll be great fun.

848
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:32,640
Speaker 1: But next is you know, Kimberly and mikeel heating up.

849
00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:34,279
Speaker 1: So we kind of get back to the Melrose that

850
00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:36,880
Speaker 1: we were expecting coming up in the next episode.

851
00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:39,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, so we got these we got these heavy things out.

852
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:41,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, well done, well done, Melrose.

853
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:44,960
Speaker 4: We can expect some of the typical Melrose probably to

854
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:45,640
Speaker 4: circle backs.

855
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:47,839
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, but it was really great, really good work

856
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:50,040
Speaker 1: in this episode. To Daphne, it really was important, you

857
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:51,160
Speaker 1: guys did a great job.

858
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:55,840
Speaker 2: And we'll never forget Denise Wingate for your outfits in

859
00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:59,320
Speaker 2: this episode. I must say I felt like she was gone.

860
00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:02,080
Speaker 1: I would bring a picture and say, what were you?

861
00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:02,920
Speaker 1: What happened?

862
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:03,520
Speaker 2: Guys?

863
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:05,400
Speaker 1: I hurt you in some way.

864
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:07,960
Speaker 2: But I swear to God, you guys, don't you think

865
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:10,279
Speaker 2: if we weren't thirty something years on, if we were

866
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:12,520
Speaker 2: back then, that it wasn't that out there?

867
00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:16,839
Speaker 1: It was. I'm very bad costume. It was a very

868
00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:19,560
Speaker 1: bad costume episode for me. But maybe I was supposed

869
00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:22,680
Speaker 1: to look like so much the underdog next to Amanda

870
00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:26,440
Speaker 1: who looks gorgeous in every single scene. Maybe if so

871
00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:29,919
Speaker 1: well done, because that wasn't the goal.

872
00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:33,480
Speaker 2: And to your point, Courtney, about you, about Alison and Billy.

873
00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:36,640
Speaker 2: So the last episode you said I'm gonna stay, he

874
00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:38,960
Speaker 2: talked to you into staying so you don't go back

875
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:42,759
Speaker 2: to Keith in Seattle. So now you're here, how long

876
00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:45,160
Speaker 2: is it do you remember until you guys actually start

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Speaker 2: to become a couple, Like, how are we gonna work

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Speaker 2: for that?

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Speaker 3: We're gonna have to find out.

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Speaker 4: And I just want to reassure you that, like by

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Speaker 4: the time Sydney.

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Speaker 3: Comes on the show, like, you're gonna feel so much

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Speaker 3: better about your life.

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Speaker 4: You're going to see all the hair dos and the

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Speaker 4: outfits that I was just like, Okay, we're gonna do

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00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:08,480
Speaker 4: like and there's no sense in being like, you.

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Speaker 3: Know, I want this to be a little bit more

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Speaker 3: flattering or whatever, like Nope, it's just going to be

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Speaker 3: a very like yep.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just trying to for all of us, like

891
00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:19,680
Speaker 2: trying this and trying that, and then you just look

892
00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:21,920
Speaker 2: at a man and go, Jesus, she just wears the

893
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:23,600
Speaker 2: same old thing as he looks back.

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Speaker 1: She always looks amazing. Yeah, she wins.

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Speaker 2: I know.

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Speaker 1: Oh, ladies, so much fun, all right. I think we

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Speaker 1: have a couple of guests before the week up, and

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Speaker 1: it's very exciting. Now we have people coming on.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, then we can.

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Speaker 4: Do and we're getting close to it at the end

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Speaker 4: of our season, so I'm sure every storyline is gonna

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Speaker 4: be heating up.

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Speaker 3: But always fun to see Ladies steally great.

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Speaker 4: Don't forget for our listeners to subscribe and download

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Speaker 3: And thanks for listening to still look so bye bye