Speaker 1: Good morning, peep Sen. Welcome to OGE Up Daily with
Speaker 1: Meet your Girl Danielle Moody, recording from the Home Bunker. Folks,
Speaker 1: you know, I gotta tell you something. It is wild
Speaker 1: to wake up to news of Solomon Pennia, the former
Speaker 1: GOP candidate in New Mexico who is running for a
Speaker 1: House district seat there, who is now the culprit, according
Speaker 1: to New Mexico police, the mastermind behind politically motivated shootings
Speaker 1: that were taking place at the offices and homes of
Speaker 1: New Mexico Democrats. Why do I say that it is
Speaker 1: wild because just a couple of months before that it
Speaker 1: was former Speaker Nancy Pelosi's home and her husband's skull
Speaker 1: being bashed in by a hammer. These incidents are becoming
Speaker 1: way to fucking common. These incidents are a pattern of
Speaker 1: behavior that is being stoked and celebrated on the right,
Speaker 1: and the irresponsible nature of the fucking mainstream media not
Speaker 1: to connect the dots for the American public, is going
Speaker 1: to ensure that these acts of violence are now just
Speaker 1: the norm in our political discourse. That to become a
Speaker 1: candidate for office not only as a woman and as
Speaker 1: a personal color or somebody who lives at the intersection
Speaker 1: of multiple identities. Not only are you going to have
Speaker 1: to just swallow online social media egregious attacks about rape
Speaker 1: and murder and all of these things, but now what
Speaker 1: you're going to need to build in private security into
Speaker 1: your fucking campaigns because we're creating a climate of chaos
Speaker 1: where nut jobs are not called out for the shit
Speaker 1: that they do who are elected and the things that
Speaker 1: they say, and they're posing with ar fifteens or cooking
Speaker 1: bacon with their fucking guns, or lining their children up
Speaker 1: as Lauren Bobert did in front of a fucking Christmas
Speaker 1: tree with all of their guns and thinking that this
Speaker 1: is the American way. And then you have people who
Speaker 1: then take this too right the next fucking level, and
Speaker 1: the mainstream media just goes ahead and ignores it. Oh well,
Speaker 1: we don't really know what's in people's hearts, are in
Speaker 1: their minds, Yes, you fucking do. Are you dumb? Right?
Speaker 1: Are we dumb to believe that the escalating rhetoric that
Speaker 1: we have seen from the Matt Gates's and the Paul
Speaker 1: Gostars and the Marjorie Taylor Greens and the Donald Trump's
Speaker 1: who said I could shoot somebody in the middle of
Speaker 1: Fifth Avenue and watch my poll numbers go up. That
Speaker 1: has said at rallies, Oh, go ahead and rough them
Speaker 1: up a little bit. I'll pay for your legal fees,
Speaker 1: or said that in front of the Suffolk County Police
Speaker 1: Department when he was President of the United States, go
Speaker 1: ahead and rough him up to raucous laughter from police
Speaker 1: who are paid by your motherfucking tax dollars. So you
Speaker 1: have these elected officials with bull horns stoking political violence
Speaker 1: at their enemies, referring to their political opponents as their enemies,
Speaker 1: and saying that people in the press are the enemy
Speaker 1: of the state. Do we remember when all of the
Speaker 1: bomb threats were coming in to CNN. Do we remember
Speaker 1: when members of Congress, particularly Democrats, were receiving white substance
Speaker 1: in the mail. This is not a game, but to
Speaker 1: them it is, and it is irresponsible, irresponsible of the
Speaker 1: mainstream media not to be connecting the fucking dots and
Speaker 1: calling these people out. Why aren't Republican officials put on
Speaker 1: their fucking heels about the Solomon Pennias of the world.
Speaker 1: Why aren't they asked, why do you continue to lift
Speaker 1: up and turn Kyle Rittenhouse a fucking murderer into one
Speaker 1: of your celebrities. Why aren't these questions asked by reporters, Oh,
Speaker 1: because they're too chicken shit, because their networks believe, who
Speaker 1: are run by right wing billionaires, that if they were
Speaker 1: to pose those questions and they would seem biased. Do
Speaker 1: you know what's fucking biased? Not a learning the public
Speaker 1: to violence that you know is on the fucking horizon.
Speaker 1: And as a matter of fact, folks, it's not on
Speaker 1: the horizon, it's here. These things, these incidents are going
Speaker 1: to go from being every few of they went to
Speaker 1: never happening to once in a blue moon. Right, you
Speaker 1: had Gabby Giffer and the shooting that happened that cost
Speaker 1: her her political future. Right, you had the shooting that
Speaker 1: happened with Nunez on the field in Washington, DC. Years later. Now,
Speaker 1: these things that were once in a blue moon horrific
Speaker 1: incidents that both sides would come out and condemn. You
Speaker 1: have being celebrated and elevated on behalf of the Republican Party,
Speaker 1: and yet not a person in mainstream media coming out
Speaker 1: and saying, why aren't you condemning violence? These people took
Speaker 1: pictures at the stop the Steel rally Solomon Pennia was
Speaker 1: at the Stop the Steel rally on January sixth. He
Speaker 1: took pictures and posted them on social media. He didn't
Speaker 1: concede his fucking loss, which was a lot because Donald
Speaker 1: Trump didn't concede his loss. These are all fucking copycats
Speaker 1: and they're getting their direction from one place. Elected Republican
Speaker 1: officials who are taking their cues from Donald Trump. Now,
Speaker 1: let me tell you who could have made this all
Speaker 1: fucking go away. Is Merrick Goddamn we don't know where
Speaker 1: the fuck you are Garland, Right If Merrick Garland, I
Speaker 1: don't know was awake at the wheel and decided that
Speaker 1: he was actually going to indict Donald Trump for his
Speaker 1: whole host, whole host of motherfucking crimes. Going back to
Speaker 1: can you do me a favor? Though, to Zelinski, had
Speaker 1: he decided to drop charges on Donald Trump the minute
Speaker 1: that he got on Air Force one and took off
Speaker 1: after his failed to first term in office, we wouldn't
Speaker 1: be here because, you see, you would make an example
Speaker 1: of what is unacceptable of the office of the presidency,
Speaker 1: of what is unacceptable for an elected official. But because
Speaker 1: there are no handcuffs on Donald Trump, there are no indictments,
Speaker 1: there's no nothing. Then all everybody is doing is taken
Speaker 1: a page from that book and saying I can do
Speaker 1: it better. So I don't just blame the people who
Speaker 1: Solomon Pennia hired. I don't just blame Solomon Penia. I
Speaker 1: don't just blame the Republican Party. I don't just blame
Speaker 1: Donald Trump. But I blame those who are now in
Speaker 1: power that refuse to hold them accountable and are just
Speaker 1: setting us up this giant fucking tinderbox. And their inaction
Speaker 1: is just allowing the gasoline to continue to leak and
Speaker 1: Republicans to continue to spark the fires that then they're
Speaker 1: going to say after the fact, well it's hot over there,
Speaker 1: so maybe stay away, folks. We are not headed anywhere
Speaker 1: that is good and anywhere that is safe. And you know,
Speaker 1: I will also go for and mentioned to Jonathan that
Speaker 1: I believe that the far right really does just want
Speaker 1: to kill their constituents. The question that I have is
Speaker 1: why right? And so I get into this and so
Speaker 1: much more with our good good friend, our in house doctor,
Speaker 1: doctor Jonathan Metzol. Folks, you know that whenever we have
Speaker 1: the opportunity to speak with our friend the good doctor,
Speaker 1: doctor Jonathan Metsol. We are always thrilled, and unfortunately every
Speaker 1: time that we talk to him, something bad has happened.
Speaker 1: As it pertains to guns, as it pertains to the
Speaker 1: rise and escalation in a political violence, and both Jonathan
Speaker 1: have come to the forefront. So, folks, you may not
Speaker 1: know this, but a couple of I want to say,
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago, there were shootings that took
Speaker 1: place in New Mexico directed at Democrats that we're holding
Speaker 1: elect office. There were shootings at their office buildings and
Speaker 1: their homes, and New Mexico police were on the search
Speaker 1: for that person. Cable news in a large way was
Speaker 1: ignoring this until this week when Solomon Pennya, who was
Speaker 1: a former Republican candidate for the House District House District fourteen,
Speaker 1: if I am correct, was arrested and he was arrested
Speaker 1: for being the quote mastermind according to New Mexico police,
Speaker 1: behind these political attacks, and they were indeed political attacks
Speaker 1: because he lost his election by more than thirty five
Speaker 1: hundred votes. And guess what he refused to concede. Who
Speaker 1: does that sound like? He has pictures posted up with
Speaker 1: at the insurrection on January sixth talking about he will
Speaker 1: not concede, just like his president did not concede Donald Trump,
Speaker 1: so on and so forth. And on top of executing um,
Speaker 1: I guess, finding for people to commit these crimes, he
Speaker 1: also is said to have shot up one of the
Speaker 1: offices himself. So, Jonathan, UM, I mean, let me just
Speaker 1: get your reactions from solid from this case and what
Speaker 1: we how it started, and what we now know about
Speaker 1: the quote unquote mastermind behind these attacks. Well, this is
Speaker 1: hey everybody. First of all, nice to see you again.
Speaker 1: We're talking about some crazy shite here. Fifteen years ago,
Speaker 1: ten years ago. Certainly when I was growing up, this
Speaker 1: would be the kind of thing you would hear about
Speaker 1: in some like tin pot dictatorship or something like that, Like,
Speaker 1: you know, this is the kind of thing that was like, Man,
Speaker 1: thank god I live in America, because you know, even
Speaker 1: though we have people who might do something like that,
Speaker 1: that's not where we have. We have a viable political
Speaker 1: system in the United States, which we still do in
Speaker 1: some ways. But really this is America right now. We
Speaker 1: are that tinpot dictatorship right now. It feels like we're
Speaker 1: heading that way in certain kind of ways, because these
Speaker 1: are the kind of stories again that you would hear
Speaker 1: from somebody who had a lot of silver foil wrapped
Speaker 1: around a cone on their head, or somebody who was
Speaker 1: up in the mountains, you know, in a Sasquatch movie
Speaker 1: or something. And now this is somebody who's a candidate
Speaker 1: in a mainstream political party doing this kind of stuff.
Speaker 1: And so Number one is just how much the America
Speaker 1: that we live in right now, in so many ways,
Speaker 1: the extreme has become the mainstream. Right. We've always had
Speaker 1: an extreme, but the fact that these extreme people acts,
Speaker 1: there's just kind of carte blanche to do crazy stuff,
Speaker 1: and we're seeing crazy stuff. And I personally find this
Speaker 1: story terrifying. I really find it terrifying because think about
Speaker 1: all the I just put it into the bucket of like,
Speaker 1: think of all the people who are running for office
Speaker 1: right now who are like either heart meet away from
Speaker 1: power or in the case of George Santos, in power.
Speaker 1: Our entire political system first of all, is attracting horrible people,
Speaker 1: and second of all, really extreme or manipulated views are
Speaker 1: either in power or too close to power. And that
Speaker 1: makes for a very unstable political system, which is what
Speaker 1: we have right now. And I feel like with all
Speaker 1: this debt ceiling stuff and all that just going to
Speaker 1: get a little bit worse, you know, Jonathan, I want
Speaker 1: to pick up on something that you said, because there
Speaker 1: seems to be some type of crackpot pathology that has
Speaker 1: consumed the Republican Party in a way where right, like
Speaker 1: this story would have seemed crazy fifteen years ago, Right,
Speaker 1: George Santos as a character now and emblematic of the
Speaker 1: Republican Party would have seemed nuts. Right and traditional quote
Speaker 1: unquote Republicans who are now have now long since died
Speaker 1: off would have denounced this person because they wouldn't have
Speaker 1: wanted to be associated with them. What has happened? What
Speaker 1: is the psychology and the pathology that has overtaken I
Speaker 1: don't want to say overtaken because that makes it seem
Speaker 1: like they are victims, but that has consumed the Republican Party,
Speaker 1: that more and more of these extremist figures have found
Speaker 1: their way to the center stage. Certainly, there is an
Speaker 1: issue with the vetting process, with the recruitment process, but
Speaker 1: I would also say, what are we looking for in
Speaker 1: a politician right now? I grew up in Kansasy, Missouri,
Speaker 1: which is now the rednists of the red areas. But
Speaker 1: when I grew up, we had politicians who were certainly
Speaker 1: we didn't agree with them, you know, people like Bob
Speaker 1: Dole from Kansas or some people from Missouri. But the
Speaker 1: reason they were in power they had an ideology, a
Speaker 1: system of governance, a way of getting things done for
Speaker 1: their constituents, a way of bringing home the bacon or
Speaker 1: the tofurky or whatever for their people. And now that's
Speaker 1: not the system we're in. The system is a zero
Speaker 1: sum who's going to own the Libs, who's going to
Speaker 1: be good in social media? The governance having an ideology,
Speaker 1: having a perspective is totally second secondary. In fact, people
Speaker 1: are elected to not get things done right now, to
Speaker 1: overturn if the government is If the government is the
Speaker 1: bad guy, then people are elected to go in and
Speaker 1: destroy the government, which is what we're seeing in the
Speaker 1: House of Representatives right now. And so it's just a
Speaker 1: scary time because the people who are in these positions
Speaker 1: are representing very extreme positions, but they also are in
Speaker 1: there to not get things done. And I also think,
Speaker 1: honestly it was Santos, since you brought it up, there's
Speaker 1: there's some other story here like no, no, I know
Speaker 1: there are a lot of fake stories, but I mean
Speaker 1: the Russians have to be behind this or Saudis somebody's
Speaker 1: behind this, Like somebody basically bought a vote. Um, that's
Speaker 1: kind of the Santa story. And so again there's something
Speaker 1: about the vetting. There's something about the process. And if
Speaker 1: you add that in to the stuff I'm setting now,
Speaker 1: which is a lot of guns, right, this is also
Speaker 1: the story in New Mexico is also a story about guns.
Speaker 1: It's a it's a volatile moment. And again I worry
Speaker 1: as as governance potentially starts to crack, and again we're
Speaker 1: going to see it with this debate about the debt ceiling. Um.
Speaker 1: But if the government starts to kind of fall apart
Speaker 1: in terms of not just crazy people in elections, in offices,
Speaker 1: but about the basic services it provides to people, which
Speaker 1: is what would be the implications if we default on
Speaker 1: loans as a country, then you're really going to see
Speaker 1: even I think, much more uncertainty, much more instability, and
Speaker 1: and the things we're seeing now as news stories are
Speaker 1: going to start to feel up more personal. You know
Speaker 1: something that you said to I want to lift up
Speaker 1: because I did an interview earlier today with the Young
Speaker 1: Turks and the damage Report, and you know, in the commentary,
Speaker 1: one of the stories that we were talking about is
Speaker 1: a recent segment that Tucker Carlson did. Tucker Carlson, you know,
Speaker 1: one of the very important things that Kevin McCarthy has
Speaker 1: decided to do as the puppet of the House and
Speaker 1: the Fisher Price speaker is rolled back a regular a
Speaker 1: policy that disallowed smoking in the US Capitol building. Right, So,
Speaker 1: now that the Republicans are back in control, smoking can happen.
Speaker 1: And this is the only place in the entirety of Washington,
Speaker 1: DC where you can now smoke indoors. Right. Tucker Carlson
Speaker 1: does a segment Jonathan where he's like, what's so wrong
Speaker 1: with tobacco? Right? Who said tobacco causes any problems? This
Speaker 1: is the same man that has spent the last three
Speaker 1: years telling his entire audience not to get vaccinated and
Speaker 1: not to believe in a global health pandemic and to
Speaker 1: you know, not to believe that over a million Americans
Speaker 1: have died and continue to die from COVID nineteen. Now
Speaker 1: he's telling his audience that he brought on some crack
Speaker 1: politician who had a pocket fill of cigars to say
Speaker 1: there's nothing wrong with smoking, and that's the American way,
Speaker 1: and tobacco is what America was built on. It was
Speaker 1: built on slavery because the only way to get the
Speaker 1: tobacco was to have enslave people picking it. But I digress.
Speaker 1: What the hell is happening here? Like as Tucker Carlson
Speaker 1: and the far right just held bent on killing their constituents,
Speaker 1: and how does that look as a long term winning
Speaker 1: strategy when your constituents start dropping dead of either COVID
Speaker 1: because of because they refused to get vaccine vaccinated, or cancer.
Speaker 1: I'm not surprised by this at all, to be honest,
Speaker 1: for two reasons. First, I live in Nashville, and you've
Speaker 1: been able to smoke in restaurants and bars up until
Speaker 1: I think last year and view before. But it was
Speaker 1: this thing about the government's not going to tell me
Speaker 1: what to do. And the second part link to that
Speaker 1: is public health is seen as the enemy because it's
Speaker 1: government funded research, saucy kind of stuff telling people what
Speaker 1: to do, telling people they can't just ride in their
Speaker 1: car without having a seatbelt on, or enjoy their freedom
Speaker 1: to smoke of course, the arguments are not great for
Speaker 1: the other people who are driving down the road with
Speaker 1: you or are in this restaurant inhaling your second hand smoke.
Speaker 1: But the idea that any there's any fringement on my liberty,
Speaker 1: which is kind of the whole idea of public health,
Speaker 1: is like, we're going to make a decision as a
Speaker 1: community to do practices that may or may not work
Speaker 1: in an individual level, but an aggregate level, they are
Speaker 1: there for the betterment of human human health. And so
Speaker 1: I'm not surprised that any public health dictim any public
Speaker 1: health injunction is up for debate. I think I told you.
Speaker 1: I just think like smoking, of all things, Jonathan, we've
Speaker 1: known for decades that smoking leads to emphysema, cancer, heart attacks,
Speaker 1: heart disease, all of the I mean, we've had the
Speaker 1: Surgeon General's warning and people have raised the cost of
Speaker 1: cigarettes to prevent death that we know happened. So I'm
Speaker 1: just like, do they is owning the Libs to the
Speaker 1: extent that literally they're willing to die of whiteness and stupidity. Well,
Speaker 1: I mean, the other thing about tobacco, of course, is
Speaker 1: we know is that there's a lot of corporate money
Speaker 1: behind it. So I don't think. I don't think anybody
Speaker 1: who's coming out and seeing those statements right now is
Speaker 1: just doing it because they they're going home to smoke
Speaker 1: a pack of Marlboroughs and they want to freedom. I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm sure that this is not an accident. Right. So
Speaker 1: the things we see people rejecting public health about are
Speaker 1: things that have very strong corporate backing, like guns. You know,
Speaker 1: guns are not great for people's health, but there's a
Speaker 1: lot of money in standing up for gun rights. And
Speaker 1: certainly historically we know from cigarettes that even the doctors
Speaker 1: who were supporting smoking rights were being funded by tobacco.
Speaker 1: I have no idea of Tucker Carlson is, but nothing
Speaker 1: would surprise me at this point. There are constraints now
Speaker 1: on advertising hard alcohol, for example, but that's another example
Speaker 1: where there's a corporate there's a corporate interest behind overturning
Speaker 1: public health. It's not just an ideology. But then when
Speaker 1: it filters down just telling people, oh, this is the
Speaker 1: American way and liberty infringement and you have your rights
Speaker 1: as an uninfringed person. So in a way, the trick
Speaker 1: of all this is getting individual people to do the
Speaker 1: bidding of these corporate interests in a way that shortens
Speaker 1: the individual lifespans but is good for the bottom line
Speaker 1: of corporations. And and and I think, you know, we're
Speaker 1: stuck on the liberal side again with the moral argument, like,
Speaker 1: look how many live seatbelts have saved. You know, car
Speaker 1: companies didn't want to have anti lock breaks. People didn't
Speaker 1: believe there was such thing as secondhand smoke twenty five
Speaker 1: years ago. And so look at all the lives that
Speaker 1: have been saved by this kind of corporate accountability. But
Speaker 1: if you have a you have, if you have a party,
Speaker 1: who is it's the opposite of corporate accuntability corporate accountability.
Speaker 1: You're just going to see a lot more things like
Speaker 1: this where communal decisions that have been very hard fought
Speaker 1: are going to be at risk. The reality to me
Speaker 1: is like I'm like, go ahead and smoke, Go ahead,
Speaker 1: Tucker Carlson and your entire audiences. I actually don't give
Speaker 1: a damn because I'm cynical and I really I'm not
Speaker 1: looking to make the argument as to why you should
Speaker 1: care about your own health and the health of those
Speaker 1: around you. This is just going to be to me,
Speaker 1: why you need to make sure that the people that
Speaker 1: you were electing governors and your local officials that have
Speaker 1: this say so over restaurants and the say so over
Speaker 1: communal and public accommodations are people with sense, right, that
Speaker 1: actually believe in real science and not crackpop bullshit that
Speaker 1: they I mean, because to me, I'm like, they want
Speaker 1: to kill their constituents as a way to own the
Speaker 1: lips I see. Other than the corporate backing that they
Speaker 1: are getting, I just don't see this as a long term,
Speaker 1: sustainable winning thing for Republicans. Let's bring back all of
Speaker 1: the things that cause disease and illness. Yeah, but I mean,
Speaker 1: as I was saying before, likes it's tied to power,
Speaker 1: and it's worked across the South again, you really could.
Speaker 1: There's a hamburger and vegetarian hamburger restaurant on my street
Speaker 1: that I never go to because they allow smoking in
Speaker 1: the restaurant, and and I just think, like, man, sometimes
Speaker 1: they get home late, I'm starving, but I'm not going
Speaker 1: in there because I don't want to eat a hamburger
Speaker 1: inhale a bunch of secondhand smoke. And and so in
Speaker 1: a way, the things you're saying have already been in place,
Speaker 1: a lot of them across the South for the most part.
Speaker 1: And it's not like the South. I mean, people don't
Speaker 1: like it in the South. But because this is such
Speaker 1: a way of consolidating power, I just don't think we
Speaker 1: can bury our heads in the sand anymore. I'm not
Speaker 1: saying you're doing that or I'm doing that, but I
Speaker 1: would say, like guns is a perfect example here where
Speaker 1: everybody was like, well, we're fine if they want to
Speaker 1: do all those guns and those red states, because we
Speaker 1: have strong laws in New York or Boston or Connecticut
Speaker 1: or LA. But it turned out that what people were
Speaker 1: doing was consolidating power in the South, creating a reliable,
Speaker 1: foolproof voting block that then they took power in the South,
Speaker 1: and then they took over the Supreme Court, and now
Speaker 1: the shitty gun laws from the South are going to
Speaker 1: be imposed across the entire country thanks to controlling the
Speaker 1: Supreme Court. So I think it makes it emotional sense
Speaker 1: to say this stuff's happening down there. But this is
Speaker 1: a powerplay using the judiciary like everything else is. And
Speaker 1: so I think people really should pay attention because it's
Speaker 1: coming to you. And next that's the lesson of guns.
Speaker 1: If you don't have a strategy for recognizing what's happening,
Speaker 1: it's coming to you. Last question for you, Jonathan, and
Speaker 1: I want to go back to the political violence. You know,
Speaker 1: a couple of months prior to Solomon Pennia was the
Speaker 1: attack on Nancy Pelosi and Paul Pelosi. Prior to that,
Speaker 1: it was the insurrection, and I'm certain different political things
Speaker 1: that did not make major news that happened in between.
Speaker 1: This is becoming a pattern right where we are becoming
Speaker 1: a place that is unsafe. We're now running for public office,
Speaker 1: having a public voice is becoming increasingly dangerous. Do you
Speaker 1: see a way of this stopping before someone gets killed?
Speaker 1: Look what happened to Paul. Look at the response to
Speaker 1: the Paul policy attack. Do you I mean what you
Speaker 1: need now is people coming together in the middle and
Speaker 1: saying this is unacceptable. That's that's where this stops. When
Speaker 1: people don't think about party, they say this is this
Speaker 1: is not who we are as a country. A democracy
Speaker 1: is where we solve our problems and decide on key
Speaker 1: issues by peaceful means. But it can't just be one
Speaker 1: side that that's saying that. And I would hope that
Speaker 1: if it was a Democrat shooting. I don't know NERF
Speaker 1: Darts or of GOP, I don't know whatever, but I
Speaker 1: would hope that the people who I support politically would
Speaker 1: stand up and say, I don't care or what party
Speaker 1: we're in, this is not where we are. So until
Speaker 1: people start coming together, which requires two parties to start
Speaker 1: condemning this kind of stuff, it's just as it's a
Speaker 1: permissive attitude, permissive atmosphere for this kind of thing, and
Speaker 1: so it makes it super super scary. I just say,
Speaker 1: you know it is there is only one side to
Speaker 1: this issue. It is only one size that is aggravating
Speaker 1: the violence, that is stoking the violence, that is celebrating
Speaker 1: the violence. But you're right until and so I guess
Speaker 1: that the answer is that things are just going to
Speaker 1: get more and more violent before they get better. Because
Speaker 1: I don't see Republicans coming out and saying this is
Speaker 1: not who we are. They just don't say anything, or
Speaker 1: they cheer that person on and they become a celebrity
Speaker 1: in the way that Kyle Rittenhouse has. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: the message should be we're a country of rules. We're
Speaker 1: governed by rules. That's what makes our country great. That
Speaker 1: should be the message every time, and people who stand
Speaker 1: outside of that are not part of our establishment. Now,
Speaker 1: I haven't seen any response to pen Yeah, I'm sure.
Speaker 1: I'm sure he doesn't have a ton of supporters right now.
Speaker 1: But I was just say in general, the idea of
Speaker 1: supporting outcomes you don't like by violent means is something
Speaker 1: that is much more, much more pervasive and believes is
Speaker 1: very concerning. Yeah, we're we're in a very concerning dangerous place,
Speaker 1: and so I will tell people to continue to be
Speaker 1: vigilant and to stay safe. Jonathan, as always, thank you
Speaker 1: so much for making the time for woke a f
Speaker 1: We appreciate you. Stay safe everybody, and don't start smoothing
Speaker 1: take care of so please. That is it for me today,
Speaker 1: dear friends on woke f as always, power to the
Speaker 1: people and to all the people. Power, get woke and
Speaker 1: stay woke as fun and also, friends, I am becoming
Speaker 1: increasingly scared and worried, so please continue to keep yourselves
Speaker 1: as safe as you can possibly be and as same
Speaker 1: as you can possibly be.