1 00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:14,280 Speaker 1: Good morning, peep Sen. Welcome to OGE Up Daily with 2 00:00:14,440 --> 00:00:18,200 Speaker 1: Meet your Girl Danielle Moody, recording from the Home Bunker. Folks, 3 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:23,880 Speaker 1: you know, I gotta tell you something. It is wild 4 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:34,120 Speaker 1: to wake up to news of Solomon Pennia, the former 5 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:37,360 Speaker 1: GOP candidate in New Mexico who is running for a 6 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:43,280 Speaker 1: House district seat there, who is now the culprit, according 7 00:00:43,320 --> 00:00:48,680 Speaker 1: to New Mexico police, the mastermind behind politically motivated shootings 8 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:51,839 Speaker 1: that were taking place at the offices and homes of 9 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 1: New Mexico Democrats. Why do I say that it is 10 00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:59,080 Speaker 1: wild because just a couple of months before that it 11 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 1: was former Speaker Nancy Pelosi's home and her husband's skull 12 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:08,680 Speaker 1: being bashed in by a hammer. These incidents are becoming 13 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:15,560 Speaker 1: way to fucking common. These incidents are a pattern of 14 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:20,119 Speaker 1: behavior that is being stoked and celebrated on the right, 15 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:26,200 Speaker 1: and the irresponsible nature of the fucking mainstream media not 16 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:29,920 Speaker 1: to connect the dots for the American public, is going 17 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 1: to ensure that these acts of violence are now just 18 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:38,880 Speaker 1: the norm in our political discourse. That to become a 19 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:42,319 Speaker 1: candidate for office not only as a woman and as 20 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:45,120 Speaker 1: a personal color or somebody who lives at the intersection 21 00:01:45,160 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 1: of multiple identities. Not only are you going to have 22 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 1: to just swallow online social media egregious attacks about rape 23 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 1: and murder and all of these things, but now what 24 00:01:57,560 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 1: you're going to need to build in private security into 25 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 1: your fucking campaigns because we're creating a climate of chaos 26 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 1: where nut jobs are not called out for the shit 27 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:12,640 Speaker 1: that they do who are elected and the things that 28 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:16,079 Speaker 1: they say, and they're posing with ar fifteens or cooking 29 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 1: bacon with their fucking guns, or lining their children up 30 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 1: as Lauren Bobert did in front of a fucking Christmas 31 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 1: tree with all of their guns and thinking that this 32 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:27,400 Speaker 1: is the American way. And then you have people who 33 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 1: then take this too right the next fucking level, and 34 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 1: the mainstream media just goes ahead and ignores it. Oh well, 35 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:37,960 Speaker 1: we don't really know what's in people's hearts, are in 36 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:41,839 Speaker 1: their minds, Yes, you fucking do. Are you dumb? Right? 37 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:46,839 Speaker 1: Are we dumb to believe that the escalating rhetoric that 38 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:50,680 Speaker 1: we have seen from the Matt Gates's and the Paul 39 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 1: Gostars and the Marjorie Taylor Greens and the Donald Trump's 40 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:56,519 Speaker 1: who said I could shoot somebody in the middle of 41 00:02:56,600 --> 00:02:59,240 Speaker 1: Fifth Avenue and watch my poll numbers go up. That 42 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:02,359 Speaker 1: has said at rallies, Oh, go ahead and rough them 43 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:05,360 Speaker 1: up a little bit. I'll pay for your legal fees, 44 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 1: or said that in front of the Suffolk County Police 45 00:03:08,320 --> 00:03:10,960 Speaker 1: Department when he was President of the United States, go 46 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 1: ahead and rough him up to raucous laughter from police 47 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:19,079 Speaker 1: who are paid by your motherfucking tax dollars. So you 48 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:25,840 Speaker 1: have these elected officials with bull horns stoking political violence 49 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:30,799 Speaker 1: at their enemies, referring to their political opponents as their enemies, 50 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 1: and saying that people in the press are the enemy 51 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 1: of the state. Do we remember when all of the 52 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 1: bomb threats were coming in to CNN. Do we remember 53 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 1: when members of Congress, particularly Democrats, were receiving white substance 54 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 1: in the mail. This is not a game, but to 55 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 1: them it is, and it is irresponsible, irresponsible of the 56 00:03:57,120 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 1: mainstream media not to be connecting the fucking dots and 57 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 1: calling these people out. Why aren't Republican officials put on 58 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:10,080 Speaker 1: their fucking heels about the Solomon Pennias of the world. 59 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:13,960 Speaker 1: Why aren't they asked, why do you continue to lift 60 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:19,640 Speaker 1: up and turn Kyle Rittenhouse a fucking murderer into one 61 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 1: of your celebrities. Why aren't these questions asked by reporters, Oh, 62 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:28,360 Speaker 1: because they're too chicken shit, because their networks believe, who 63 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:32,480 Speaker 1: are run by right wing billionaires, that if they were 64 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 1: to pose those questions and they would seem biased. Do 65 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:38,720 Speaker 1: you know what's fucking biased? Not a learning the public 66 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:41,479 Speaker 1: to violence that you know is on the fucking horizon. 67 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:43,640 Speaker 1: And as a matter of fact, folks, it's not on 68 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:50,239 Speaker 1: the horizon, it's here. These things, these incidents are going 69 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:53,599 Speaker 1: to go from being every few of they went to 70 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:59,039 Speaker 1: never happening to once in a blue moon. Right, you 71 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:02,600 Speaker 1: had Gabby Giffer and the shooting that happened that cost 72 00:05:02,640 --> 00:05:06,240 Speaker 1: her her political future. Right, you had the shooting that 73 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:12,159 Speaker 1: happened with Nunez on the field in Washington, DC. Years later. Now, 74 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:15,560 Speaker 1: these things that were once in a blue moon horrific 75 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:19,560 Speaker 1: incidents that both sides would come out and condemn. You 76 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:24,599 Speaker 1: have being celebrated and elevated on behalf of the Republican Party, 77 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:29,160 Speaker 1: and yet not a person in mainstream media coming out 78 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 1: and saying, why aren't you condemning violence? These people took 79 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:37,920 Speaker 1: pictures at the stop the Steel rally Solomon Pennia was 80 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:41,720 Speaker 1: at the Stop the Steel rally on January sixth. He 81 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 1: took pictures and posted them on social media. He didn't 82 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:49,840 Speaker 1: concede his fucking loss, which was a lot because Donald 83 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 1: Trump didn't concede his loss. These are all fucking copycats 84 00:05:55,080 --> 00:06:01,800 Speaker 1: and they're getting their direction from one place. Elected Republican 85 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 1: officials who are taking their cues from Donald Trump. Now, 86 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:10,279 Speaker 1: let me tell you who could have made this all 87 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:13,840 Speaker 1: fucking go away. Is Merrick Goddamn we don't know where 88 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 1: the fuck you are Garland, Right If Merrick Garland, I 89 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:21,599 Speaker 1: don't know was awake at the wheel and decided that 90 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 1: he was actually going to indict Donald Trump for his 91 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:29,599 Speaker 1: whole host, whole host of motherfucking crimes. Going back to 92 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:34,160 Speaker 1: can you do me a favor? Though, to Zelinski, had 93 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:37,440 Speaker 1: he decided to drop charges on Donald Trump the minute 94 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:40,839 Speaker 1: that he got on Air Force one and took off 95 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:45,839 Speaker 1: after his failed to first term in office, we wouldn't 96 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:48,839 Speaker 1: be here because, you see, you would make an example 97 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:52,880 Speaker 1: of what is unacceptable of the office of the presidency, 98 00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 1: of what is unacceptable for an elected official. But because 99 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 1: there are no handcuffs on Donald Trump, there are no indictments, 100 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 1: there's no nothing. Then all everybody is doing is taken 101 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:07,480 Speaker 1: a page from that book and saying I can do 102 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 1: it better. So I don't just blame the people who 103 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 1: Solomon Pennia hired. I don't just blame Solomon Penia. I 104 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:23,400 Speaker 1: don't just blame the Republican Party. I don't just blame 105 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 1: Donald Trump. But I blame those who are now in 106 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 1: power that refuse to hold them accountable and are just 107 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 1: setting us up this giant fucking tinderbox. And their inaction 108 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:38,120 Speaker 1: is just allowing the gasoline to continue to leak and 109 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:42,320 Speaker 1: Republicans to continue to spark the fires that then they're 110 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 1: going to say after the fact, well it's hot over there, 111 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:52,560 Speaker 1: so maybe stay away, folks. We are not headed anywhere 112 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:58,160 Speaker 1: that is good and anywhere that is safe. And you know, 113 00:07:58,280 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 1: I will also go for and mentioned to Jonathan that 114 00:08:03,880 --> 00:08:07,120 Speaker 1: I believe that the far right really does just want 115 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:10,400 Speaker 1: to kill their constituents. The question that I have is 116 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:14,960 Speaker 1: why right? And so I get into this and so 117 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:18,640 Speaker 1: much more with our good good friend, our in house doctor, 118 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 1: doctor Jonathan Metzol. Folks, you know that whenever we have 119 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 1: the opportunity to speak with our friend the good doctor, 120 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:31,880 Speaker 1: doctor Jonathan Metsol. We are always thrilled, and unfortunately every 121 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 1: time that we talk to him, something bad has happened. 122 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:38,520 Speaker 1: As it pertains to guns, as it pertains to the 123 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:43,079 Speaker 1: rise and escalation in a political violence, and both Jonathan 124 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 1: have come to the forefront. So, folks, you may not 125 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:51,440 Speaker 1: know this, but a couple of I want to say, 126 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:55,080 Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago, there were shootings that took 127 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:59,600 Speaker 1: place in New Mexico directed at Democrats that we're holding 128 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:04,160 Speaker 1: elect office. There were shootings at their office buildings and 129 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:07,760 Speaker 1: their homes, and New Mexico police were on the search 130 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:10,600 Speaker 1: for that person. Cable news in a large way was 131 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:16,680 Speaker 1: ignoring this until this week when Solomon Pennya, who was 132 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:22,160 Speaker 1: a former Republican candidate for the House District House District fourteen, 133 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:26,920 Speaker 1: if I am correct, was arrested and he was arrested 134 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 1: for being the quote mastermind according to New Mexico police, 135 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:35,320 Speaker 1: behind these political attacks, and they were indeed political attacks 136 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 1: because he lost his election by more than thirty five 137 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:43,079 Speaker 1: hundred votes. And guess what he refused to concede. Who 138 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:46,360 Speaker 1: does that sound like? He has pictures posted up with 139 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:51,560 Speaker 1: at the insurrection on January sixth talking about he will 140 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:55,960 Speaker 1: not concede, just like his president did not concede Donald Trump, 141 00:09:56,320 --> 00:10:00,640 Speaker 1: so on and so forth. And on top of executing um, 142 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:05,800 Speaker 1: I guess, finding for people to commit these crimes, he 143 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:08,240 Speaker 1: also is said to have shot up one of the 144 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:14,960 Speaker 1: offices himself. So, Jonathan, UM, I mean, let me just 145 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 1: get your reactions from solid from this case and what 146 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:24,560 Speaker 1: we how it started, and what we now know about 147 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:30,679 Speaker 1: the quote unquote mastermind behind these attacks. Well, this is 148 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:34,240 Speaker 1: hey everybody. First of all, nice to see you again. 149 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:38,360 Speaker 1: We're talking about some crazy shite here. Fifteen years ago, 150 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:42,120 Speaker 1: ten years ago. Certainly when I was growing up, this 151 00:10:42,160 --> 00:10:44,679 Speaker 1: would be the kind of thing you would hear about 152 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 1: in some like tin pot dictatorship or something like that, Like, 153 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:52,160 Speaker 1: you know, this is the kind of thing that was like, Man, 154 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:55,079 Speaker 1: thank god I live in America, because you know, even 155 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:57,200 Speaker 1: though we have people who might do something like that, 156 00:10:57,200 --> 00:10:59,360 Speaker 1: that's not where we have. We have a viable political 157 00:10:59,400 --> 00:11:01,880 Speaker 1: system in the United States, which we still do in 158 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:04,720 Speaker 1: some ways. But really this is America right now. We 159 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:07,920 Speaker 1: are that tinpot dictatorship right now. It feels like we're 160 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:10,920 Speaker 1: heading that way in certain kind of ways, because these 161 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 1: are the kind of stories again that you would hear 162 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:16,440 Speaker 1: from somebody who had a lot of silver foil wrapped 163 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:19,719 Speaker 1: around a cone on their head, or somebody who was 164 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:23,280 Speaker 1: up in the mountains, you know, in a Sasquatch movie 165 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:26,040 Speaker 1: or something. And now this is somebody who's a candidate 166 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:29,560 Speaker 1: in a mainstream political party doing this kind of stuff. 167 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 1: And so Number one is just how much the America 168 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:35,559 Speaker 1: that we live in right now, in so many ways, 169 00:11:35,640 --> 00:11:39,880 Speaker 1: the extreme has become the mainstream. Right. We've always had 170 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:43,360 Speaker 1: an extreme, but the fact that these extreme people acts, 171 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:47,800 Speaker 1: there's just kind of carte blanche to do crazy stuff, 172 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:50,040 Speaker 1: and we're seeing crazy stuff. And I personally find this 173 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 1: story terrifying. I really find it terrifying because think about 174 00:11:56,720 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 1: all the I just put it into the bucket of like, 175 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:02,960 Speaker 1: think of all the people who are running for office 176 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:06,319 Speaker 1: right now who are like either heart meet away from 177 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:08,920 Speaker 1: power or in the case of George Santos, in power. 178 00:12:10,520 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 1: Our entire political system first of all, is attracting horrible people, 179 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:17,880 Speaker 1: and second of all, really extreme or manipulated views are 180 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 1: either in power or too close to power. And that 181 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:24,319 Speaker 1: makes for a very unstable political system, which is what 182 00:12:24,520 --> 00:12:27,200 Speaker 1: we have right now. And I feel like with all 183 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:28,959 Speaker 1: this debt ceiling stuff and all that just going to 184 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:32,559 Speaker 1: get a little bit worse, you know, Jonathan, I want 185 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 1: to pick up on something that you said, because there 186 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:43,439 Speaker 1: seems to be some type of crackpot pathology that has 187 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:49,320 Speaker 1: consumed the Republican Party in a way where right, like 188 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:53,840 Speaker 1: this story would have seemed crazy fifteen years ago, Right, 189 00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:58,240 Speaker 1: George Santos as a character now and emblematic of the 190 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:03,040 Speaker 1: Republican Party would have seemed nuts. Right and traditional quote 191 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:06,320 Speaker 1: unquote Republicans who are now have now long since died 192 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:09,160 Speaker 1: off would have denounced this person because they wouldn't have 193 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:12,920 Speaker 1: wanted to be associated with them. What has happened? What 194 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:18,200 Speaker 1: is the psychology and the pathology that has overtaken I 195 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:20,400 Speaker 1: don't want to say overtaken because that makes it seem 196 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:25,080 Speaker 1: like they are victims, but that has consumed the Republican Party, 197 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:30,120 Speaker 1: that more and more of these extremist figures have found 198 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:34,880 Speaker 1: their way to the center stage. Certainly, there is an 199 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:39,040 Speaker 1: issue with the vetting process, with the recruitment process, but 200 00:13:39,080 --> 00:13:41,240 Speaker 1: I would also say, what are we looking for in 201 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:45,640 Speaker 1: a politician right now? I grew up in Kansasy, Missouri, 202 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:48,080 Speaker 1: which is now the rednists of the red areas. But 203 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:51,920 Speaker 1: when I grew up, we had politicians who were certainly 204 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:54,360 Speaker 1: we didn't agree with them, you know, people like Bob 205 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:57,480 Speaker 1: Dole from Kansas or some people from Missouri. But the 206 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:02,800 Speaker 1: reason they were in power they had an ideology, a 207 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:06,600 Speaker 1: system of governance, a way of getting things done for 208 00:14:06,640 --> 00:14:10,640 Speaker 1: their constituents, a way of bringing home the bacon or 209 00:14:10,679 --> 00:14:15,240 Speaker 1: the tofurky or whatever for their people. And now that's 210 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 1: not the system we're in. The system is a zero 211 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:20,760 Speaker 1: sum who's going to own the Libs, who's going to 212 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:24,320 Speaker 1: be good in social media? The governance having an ideology, 213 00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:29,080 Speaker 1: having a perspective is totally second secondary. In fact, people 214 00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:31,640 Speaker 1: are elected to not get things done right now, to 215 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:35,560 Speaker 1: overturn if the government is If the government is the 216 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:38,920 Speaker 1: bad guy, then people are elected to go in and 217 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:40,520 Speaker 1: destroy the government, which is what we're seeing in the 218 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:44,400 Speaker 1: House of Representatives right now. And so it's just a 219 00:14:44,440 --> 00:14:46,800 Speaker 1: scary time because the people who are in these positions 220 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:51,000 Speaker 1: are representing very extreme positions, but they also are in 221 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:55,320 Speaker 1: there to not get things done. And I also think, 222 00:14:55,360 --> 00:14:58,240 Speaker 1: honestly it was Santos, since you brought it up, there's 223 00:14:58,560 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 1: there's some other story here like no, no, I know 224 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:05,880 Speaker 1: there are a lot of fake stories, but I mean 225 00:15:07,040 --> 00:15:10,000 Speaker 1: the Russians have to be behind this or Saudis somebody's 226 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:13,440 Speaker 1: behind this, Like somebody basically bought a vote. Um, that's 227 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:16,200 Speaker 1: kind of the Santa story. And so again there's something 228 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:20,320 Speaker 1: about the vetting. There's something about the process. And if 229 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:22,320 Speaker 1: you add that in to the stuff I'm setting now, 230 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:24,600 Speaker 1: which is a lot of guns, right, this is also 231 00:15:24,680 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 1: the story in New Mexico is also a story about guns. 232 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 1: It's a it's a volatile moment. And again I worry 233 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:34,840 Speaker 1: as as governance potentially starts to crack, and again we're 234 00:15:34,880 --> 00:15:38,960 Speaker 1: going to see it with this debate about the debt ceiling. Um. 235 00:15:39,040 --> 00:15:41,080 Speaker 1: But if the government starts to kind of fall apart 236 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:44,520 Speaker 1: in terms of not just crazy people in elections, in offices, 237 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 1: but about the basic services it provides to people, which 238 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:50,480 Speaker 1: is what would be the implications if we default on 239 00:15:50,680 --> 00:15:53,400 Speaker 1: loans as a country, then you're really going to see 240 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:57,240 Speaker 1: even I think, much more uncertainty, much more instability, and 241 00:15:57,240 --> 00:15:59,520 Speaker 1: and the things we're seeing now as news stories are 242 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:01,960 Speaker 1: going to start to feel up more personal. You know 243 00:16:02,320 --> 00:16:05,560 Speaker 1: something that you said to I want to lift up 244 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:09,280 Speaker 1: because I did an interview earlier today with the Young 245 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:13,640 Speaker 1: Turks and the damage Report, and you know, in the commentary, 246 00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:16,120 Speaker 1: one of the stories that we were talking about is 247 00:16:16,280 --> 00:16:20,120 Speaker 1: a recent segment that Tucker Carlson did. Tucker Carlson, you know, 248 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:23,040 Speaker 1: one of the very important things that Kevin McCarthy has 249 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:26,560 Speaker 1: decided to do as the puppet of the House and 250 00:16:26,600 --> 00:16:31,880 Speaker 1: the Fisher Price speaker is rolled back a regular a 251 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:38,200 Speaker 1: policy that disallowed smoking in the US Capitol building. Right, So, 252 00:16:38,240 --> 00:16:42,000 Speaker 1: now that the Republicans are back in control, smoking can happen. 253 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:46,000 Speaker 1: And this is the only place in the entirety of Washington, 254 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:51,480 Speaker 1: DC where you can now smoke indoors. Right. Tucker Carlson 255 00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:54,880 Speaker 1: does a segment Jonathan where he's like, what's so wrong 256 00:16:54,960 --> 00:17:00,040 Speaker 1: with tobacco? Right? Who said tobacco causes any problems? This 257 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:02,240 Speaker 1: is the same man that has spent the last three 258 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 1: years telling his entire audience not to get vaccinated and 259 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:09,960 Speaker 1: not to believe in a global health pandemic and to 260 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:12,919 Speaker 1: you know, not to believe that over a million Americans 261 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 1: have died and continue to die from COVID nineteen. Now 262 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 1: he's telling his audience that he brought on some crack 263 00:17:19,840 --> 00:17:23,520 Speaker 1: politician who had a pocket fill of cigars to say 264 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:26,560 Speaker 1: there's nothing wrong with smoking, and that's the American way, 265 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:28,960 Speaker 1: and tobacco is what America was built on. It was 266 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:31,040 Speaker 1: built on slavery because the only way to get the 267 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:35,080 Speaker 1: tobacco was to have enslave people picking it. But I digress. 268 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:40,639 Speaker 1: What the hell is happening here? Like as Tucker Carlson 269 00:17:40,760 --> 00:17:44,680 Speaker 1: and the far right just held bent on killing their constituents, 270 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:48,479 Speaker 1: and how does that look as a long term winning 271 00:17:48,560 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 1: strategy when your constituents start dropping dead of either COVID 272 00:17:54,080 --> 00:17:57,960 Speaker 1: because of because they refused to get vaccine vaccinated, or cancer. 273 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 1: I'm not surprised by this at all, to be honest, 274 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:05,160 Speaker 1: for two reasons. First, I live in Nashville, and you've 275 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:08,120 Speaker 1: been able to smoke in restaurants and bars up until 276 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:09,840 Speaker 1: I think last year and view before. But it was 277 00:18:10,040 --> 00:18:11,720 Speaker 1: this thing about the government's not going to tell me 278 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:14,680 Speaker 1: what to do. And the second part link to that 279 00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:19,800 Speaker 1: is public health is seen as the enemy because it's 280 00:18:19,960 --> 00:18:23,840 Speaker 1: government funded research, saucy kind of stuff telling people what 281 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:27,160 Speaker 1: to do, telling people they can't just ride in their 282 00:18:27,160 --> 00:18:31,359 Speaker 1: car without having a seatbelt on, or enjoy their freedom 283 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:34,359 Speaker 1: to smoke of course, the arguments are not great for 284 00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:36,840 Speaker 1: the other people who are driving down the road with 285 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:41,520 Speaker 1: you or are in this restaurant inhaling your second hand smoke. 286 00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:44,439 Speaker 1: But the idea that any there's any fringement on my liberty, 287 00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:46,760 Speaker 1: which is kind of the whole idea of public health, 288 00:18:46,840 --> 00:18:48,439 Speaker 1: is like, we're going to make a decision as a 289 00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:53,280 Speaker 1: community to do practices that may or may not work 290 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:57,960 Speaker 1: in an individual level, but an aggregate level, they are 291 00:18:57,720 --> 00:19:01,840 Speaker 1: there for the betterment of human human health. And so 292 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:04,960 Speaker 1: I'm not surprised that any public health dictim any public 293 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:09,840 Speaker 1: health injunction is up for debate. I think I told you. 294 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:15,000 Speaker 1: I just think like smoking, of all things, Jonathan, we've 295 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:22,639 Speaker 1: known for decades that smoking leads to emphysema, cancer, heart attacks, 296 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 1: heart disease, all of the I mean, we've had the 297 00:19:25,359 --> 00:19:29,280 Speaker 1: Surgeon General's warning and people have raised the cost of 298 00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:34,640 Speaker 1: cigarettes to prevent death that we know happened. So I'm 299 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:39,199 Speaker 1: just like, do they is owning the Libs to the 300 00:19:39,320 --> 00:19:43,720 Speaker 1: extent that literally they're willing to die of whiteness and stupidity. Well, 301 00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:46,040 Speaker 1: I mean, the other thing about tobacco, of course, is 302 00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:47,840 Speaker 1: we know is that there's a lot of corporate money 303 00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:50,040 Speaker 1: behind it. So I don't think. I don't think anybody 304 00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:52,399 Speaker 1: who's coming out and seeing those statements right now is 305 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:55,119 Speaker 1: just doing it because they they're going home to smoke 306 00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:58,000 Speaker 1: a pack of Marlboroughs and they want to freedom. I mean, 307 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:00,880 Speaker 1: I'm sure that this is not an accident. Right. So 308 00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:04,120 Speaker 1: the things we see people rejecting public health about are 309 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:08,440 Speaker 1: things that have very strong corporate backing, like guns. You know, 310 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:12,960 Speaker 1: guns are not great for people's health, but there's a 311 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:14,960 Speaker 1: lot of money in standing up for gun rights. And 312 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:18,959 Speaker 1: certainly historically we know from cigarettes that even the doctors 313 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:22,520 Speaker 1: who were supporting smoking rights were being funded by tobacco. 314 00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:24,800 Speaker 1: I have no idea of Tucker Carlson is, but nothing 315 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:28,040 Speaker 1: would surprise me at this point. There are constraints now 316 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:31,960 Speaker 1: on advertising hard alcohol, for example, but that's another example 317 00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:36,440 Speaker 1: where there's a corporate there's a corporate interest behind overturning 318 00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:38,600 Speaker 1: public health. It's not just an ideology. But then when 319 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:41,560 Speaker 1: it filters down just telling people, oh, this is the 320 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:45,520 Speaker 1: American way and liberty infringement and you have your rights 321 00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:48,879 Speaker 1: as an uninfringed person. So in a way, the trick 322 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:51,439 Speaker 1: of all this is getting individual people to do the 323 00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:54,720 Speaker 1: bidding of these corporate interests in a way that shortens 324 00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:57,440 Speaker 1: the individual lifespans but is good for the bottom line 325 00:20:57,440 --> 00:21:03,320 Speaker 1: of corporations. And and and I think, you know, we're 326 00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:06,800 Speaker 1: stuck on the liberal side again with the moral argument, like, 327 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:09,800 Speaker 1: look how many live seatbelts have saved. You know, car 328 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:13,040 Speaker 1: companies didn't want to have anti lock breaks. People didn't 329 00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:16,240 Speaker 1: believe there was such thing as secondhand smoke twenty five 330 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:19,320 Speaker 1: years ago. And so look at all the lives that 331 00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:23,480 Speaker 1: have been saved by this kind of corporate accountability. But 332 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:25,359 Speaker 1: if you have a you have, if you have a party, 333 00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:29,280 Speaker 1: who is it's the opposite of corporate accuntability corporate accountability. 334 00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:31,000 Speaker 1: You're just going to see a lot more things like 335 00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:34,359 Speaker 1: this where communal decisions that have been very hard fought 336 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:41,359 Speaker 1: are going to be at risk. The reality to me 337 00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:44,199 Speaker 1: is like I'm like, go ahead and smoke, Go ahead, 338 00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:47,720 Speaker 1: Tucker Carlson and your entire audiences. I actually don't give 339 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:50,479 Speaker 1: a damn because I'm cynical and I really I'm not 340 00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:53,359 Speaker 1: looking to make the argument as to why you should 341 00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:55,120 Speaker 1: care about your own health and the health of those 342 00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:57,199 Speaker 1: around you. This is just going to be to me, 343 00:21:57,320 --> 00:21:58,960 Speaker 1: why you need to make sure that the people that 344 00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:02,520 Speaker 1: you were electing governors and your local officials that have 345 00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:06,320 Speaker 1: this say so over restaurants and the say so over 346 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:11,199 Speaker 1: communal and public accommodations are people with sense, right, that 347 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:15,520 Speaker 1: actually believe in real science and not crackpop bullshit that 348 00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:18,800 Speaker 1: they I mean, because to me, I'm like, they want 349 00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:21,840 Speaker 1: to kill their constituents as a way to own the 350 00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:25,640 Speaker 1: lips I see. Other than the corporate backing that they 351 00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:29,040 Speaker 1: are getting, I just don't see this as a long term, 352 00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:34,119 Speaker 1: sustainable winning thing for Republicans. Let's bring back all of 353 00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:37,320 Speaker 1: the things that cause disease and illness. Yeah, but I mean, 354 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:40,280 Speaker 1: as I was saying before, likes it's tied to power, 355 00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:43,920 Speaker 1: and it's worked across the South again, you really could. 356 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:49,280 Speaker 1: There's a hamburger and vegetarian hamburger restaurant on my street 357 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:52,960 Speaker 1: that I never go to because they allow smoking in 358 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:57,399 Speaker 1: the restaurant, and and I just think, like, man, sometimes 359 00:22:57,400 --> 00:22:59,719 Speaker 1: they get home late, I'm starving, but I'm not going 360 00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:01,520 Speaker 1: in there because I don't want to eat a hamburger 361 00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:07,720 Speaker 1: inhale a bunch of secondhand smoke. And and so in 362 00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:10,440 Speaker 1: a way, the things you're saying have already been in place, 363 00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:12,640 Speaker 1: a lot of them across the South for the most part. 364 00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:16,800 Speaker 1: And it's not like the South. I mean, people don't 365 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:18,680 Speaker 1: like it in the South. But because this is such 366 00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:22,320 Speaker 1: a way of consolidating power, I just don't think we 367 00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:24,320 Speaker 1: can bury our heads in the sand anymore. I'm not 368 00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:26,439 Speaker 1: saying you're doing that or I'm doing that, but I 369 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:28,720 Speaker 1: would say, like guns is a perfect example here where 370 00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:30,560 Speaker 1: everybody was like, well, we're fine if they want to 371 00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:33,600 Speaker 1: do all those guns and those red states, because we 372 00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:38,520 Speaker 1: have strong laws in New York or Boston or Connecticut 373 00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:41,400 Speaker 1: or LA. But it turned out that what people were 374 00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:45,840 Speaker 1: doing was consolidating power in the South, creating a reliable, 375 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:50,600 Speaker 1: foolproof voting block that then they took power in the South, 376 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:52,200 Speaker 1: and then they took over the Supreme Court, and now 377 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:55,119 Speaker 1: the shitty gun laws from the South are going to 378 00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:57,439 Speaker 1: be imposed across the entire country thanks to controlling the 379 00:23:57,440 --> 00:24:00,879 Speaker 1: Supreme Court. So I think it makes it emotional sense 380 00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:03,560 Speaker 1: to say this stuff's happening down there. But this is 381 00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:07,280 Speaker 1: a powerplay using the judiciary like everything else is. And 382 00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:10,080 Speaker 1: so I think people really should pay attention because it's 383 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:13,280 Speaker 1: coming to you. And next that's the lesson of guns. 384 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:16,240 Speaker 1: If you don't have a strategy for recognizing what's happening, 385 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:19,960 Speaker 1: it's coming to you. Last question for you, Jonathan, and 386 00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:22,840 Speaker 1: I want to go back to the political violence. You know, 387 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:27,159 Speaker 1: a couple of months prior to Solomon Pennia was the 388 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:34,200 Speaker 1: attack on Nancy Pelosi and Paul Pelosi. Prior to that, 389 00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:40,639 Speaker 1: it was the insurrection, and I'm certain different political things 390 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:43,360 Speaker 1: that did not make major news that happened in between. 391 00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:49,440 Speaker 1: This is becoming a pattern right where we are becoming 392 00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:53,560 Speaker 1: a place that is unsafe. We're now running for public office, 393 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:59,239 Speaker 1: having a public voice is becoming increasingly dangerous. Do you 394 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:05,600 Speaker 1: see a way of this stopping before someone gets killed? 395 00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:09,480 Speaker 1: Look what happened to Paul. Look at the response to 396 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:12,919 Speaker 1: the Paul policy attack. Do you I mean what you 397 00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:15,480 Speaker 1: need now is people coming together in the middle and 398 00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:19,200 Speaker 1: saying this is unacceptable. That's that's where this stops. When 399 00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:22,680 Speaker 1: people don't think about party, they say this is this 400 00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:24,560 Speaker 1: is not who we are as a country. A democracy 401 00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:28,120 Speaker 1: is where we solve our problems and decide on key 402 00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:32,040 Speaker 1: issues by peaceful means. But it can't just be one 403 00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:34,480 Speaker 1: side that that's saying that. And I would hope that 404 00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:39,080 Speaker 1: if it was a Democrat shooting. I don't know NERF 405 00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:42,960 Speaker 1: Darts or of GOP, I don't know whatever, but I 406 00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:47,639 Speaker 1: would hope that the people who I support politically would 407 00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:50,240 Speaker 1: stand up and say, I don't care or what party 408 00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:52,480 Speaker 1: we're in, this is not where we are. So until 409 00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:55,440 Speaker 1: people start coming together, which requires two parties to start 410 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:59,040 Speaker 1: condemning this kind of stuff, it's just as it's a 411 00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:02,720 Speaker 1: permissive attitude, permissive atmosphere for this kind of thing, and 412 00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:06,080 Speaker 1: so it makes it super super scary. I just say, 413 00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:09,960 Speaker 1: you know it is there is only one side to 414 00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:13,080 Speaker 1: this issue. It is only one size that is aggravating 415 00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:17,200 Speaker 1: the violence, that is stoking the violence, that is celebrating 416 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:20,960 Speaker 1: the violence. But you're right until and so I guess 417 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:23,200 Speaker 1: that the answer is that things are just going to 418 00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:27,240 Speaker 1: get more and more violent before they get better. Because 419 00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:32,040 Speaker 1: I don't see Republicans coming out and saying this is 420 00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:35,200 Speaker 1: not who we are. They just don't say anything, or 421 00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:38,040 Speaker 1: they cheer that person on and they become a celebrity 422 00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:41,120 Speaker 1: in the way that Kyle Rittenhouse has. Yeah, I mean 423 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:44,520 Speaker 1: the message should be we're a country of rules. We're 424 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:48,280 Speaker 1: governed by rules. That's what makes our country great. That 425 00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:51,080 Speaker 1: should be the message every time, and people who stand 426 00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:53,760 Speaker 1: outside of that are not part of our establishment. Now, 427 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:56,359 Speaker 1: I haven't seen any response to pen Yeah, I'm sure. 428 00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:59,040 Speaker 1: I'm sure he doesn't have a ton of supporters right now. 429 00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:01,720 Speaker 1: But I was just say in general, the idea of 430 00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:07,200 Speaker 1: supporting outcomes you don't like by violent means is something 431 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:10,560 Speaker 1: that is much more, much more pervasive and believes is 432 00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:16,320 Speaker 1: very concerning. Yeah, we're we're in a very concerning dangerous place, 433 00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:18,520 Speaker 1: and so I will tell people to continue to be 434 00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:22,960 Speaker 1: vigilant and to stay safe. Jonathan, as always, thank you 435 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:25,240 Speaker 1: so much for making the time for woke a f 436 00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:28,840 Speaker 1: We appreciate you. Stay safe everybody, and don't start smoothing 437 00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:37,919 Speaker 1: take care of so please. That is it for me today, 438 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:41,919 Speaker 1: dear friends on woke f as always, power to the 439 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:45,639 Speaker 1: people and to all the people. Power, get woke and 440 00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:51,520 Speaker 1: stay woke as fun and also, friends, I am becoming 441 00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:55,919 Speaker 1: increasingly scared and worried, so please continue to keep yourselves 442 00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:59,000 Speaker 1: as safe as you can possibly be and as same 443 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:00,600 Speaker 1: as you can possibly be.