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Speaker 1: It is Thursday, March sixth This is Jaguars Happy Hour.

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Speaker 2: Shackrick and welcome in. It is Jaguars Happy Hour. JP Shadrick,

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Speaker 2: Jeff Logoman, Busy hour ahead, and here's what's coming up

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Speaker 2: on the show today. The Jaguars planning to release Christian Kirk.

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Speaker 2: We'll get to that. Mitch Morse has announced his retirement.

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Speaker 2: That was earlier today. We'll discuss what that means for

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Speaker 2: the Jaguars moving ahead, a free agency preview, and the

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Speaker 2: aftermath of the NFL Scouting Combine. All that on dech today.

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Speaker 2: lock have been joining us.

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Speaker 3: Now, Hello, are you doing fantastic? How about you?

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Speaker 2: Good? Doing really well?

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Speaker 3: How did you uh? How did you do it? The

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Speaker 3: forty yard dash of the combine?

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Speaker 2: If you put a ham sandwich out there, I will

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Speaker 2: run really fast.

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Speaker 3: Have you ever thought about doing that? You know, kind

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Speaker 3: of like a rich eyesend thing, or you do the forty.

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Speaker 2: I'd have to really, you know, scratch.

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Speaker 3: We should ran after we should we should have a

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Speaker 3: contest me and you maybe to see who.

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Speaker 2: I mean you you think you could beat me?

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Speaker 3: I know, Oh, we we gotta have a little we

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Speaker 3: gotta have a little wager on.

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Speaker 2: I mean, your daughter was just in here talking about

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Speaker 2: how old you are. I know.

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Speaker 3: So, so are we gonna do this or are we

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Speaker 3: gonna have a little I'm down for it. I mean

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Speaker 3: I'm not exactly the cheetah, neither are you speak for yourself.

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Speaker 3: And people are gonna want to pay faster than I

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Speaker 3: look see to see me and you race right, But

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Speaker 3: it would be interesting. I would have to do this

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Speaker 3: in a very controlled fashion, very controlled.

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Speaker 2: This reminds me. This hearkens back to the early days,

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Speaker 2: and we kind of first got started on the digital

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Speaker 2: side here on Jaguars dot com. I challenged Baselli to

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Speaker 2: the five k through the stadium.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, how'd that go?

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Speaker 2: It didn't go well? Yeah? I stayed with him. This

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Speaker 2: is before his bad hip again.

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Speaker 3: But it was a bad hip, but it was it

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Speaker 3: had gotten really bad.

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Speaker 2: It hadn't like broken in half. Yeah at that point.

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Speaker 2: I stayed with him for like a half mile, and

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Speaker 2: then I couldn't keep out. He just kept going, that's

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Speaker 2: not very that's not very good.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, whoa, Okay, so you're so what you're saying

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Speaker 3: is is that you're meant for shorter distance.

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Speaker 2: I'm a sprinter, That's what I'm saying. Come on, man, I.

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Speaker 3: Look like I remember the combine. Gosh, it was a

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Speaker 3: long time ago, obviously, in nineteen eighty nine, but and

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Speaker 3: it's obviously it's changed tremendously to where it's become a

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Speaker 3: media event, and it wasn't so much of one back then.

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Speaker 3: But the uh, the amount of fanfare that it gets

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Speaker 3: is really amazing considering that all it really is is

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Speaker 3: a medical check for the most part. But the media

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Speaker 3: side of it has made it an attraction, which is

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Speaker 3: good for the NFL. It's good for the game. But

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Speaker 3: I don't know if I don't get glued to it,

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Speaker 3: you know, but some people think it's great.

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Speaker 2: We went to the combine and I could have cared

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Speaker 2: less about the workouts on the field. We left before

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Speaker 2: most of the position Grews even got on the field.

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Speaker 2: We were out of town, so that's changed a lot.

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Speaker 3: I would love to know, honestly, what percentage of general

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Speaker 3: managers in the National Football League actually watch it, you know,

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Speaker 3: whether they're they're in person, or they're in their office

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Speaker 3: watching the stream on the NFL network or whatever.

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Speaker 2: But I mean, I would.

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Speaker 3: Think that it would be an incredible waste of time

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Speaker 3: for a GM to watch the combine. Well, give me

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Speaker 3: me spend my time watching film. If general managers are

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Speaker 2: That team's got a problem. The medical part. Yes. The interviews, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: that's the important part of the beast too.

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Speaker 3: Right, I'm not a big I don't know if I'm

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Speaker 3: a big proponent of that even Well, and the reason

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Speaker 3: why is it Look, I mean, look, and I've watched

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Speaker 3: a lot of the interviews that have happened. It's just Look,

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Speaker 3: you can prepare yourself. You can prepare a client, if

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Speaker 3: you're an agent, you can prepare anybody to sound good

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Speaker 3: for ten to fifteen minutes.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 3: The proper way is you want to interview people and

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Speaker 3: But I like the idea of when they come into

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Speaker 3: times up, because I think anybody can put on an

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Speaker 3: is not so much of the interview. To me, it's

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Speaker 3: about vetting the player. It's talking to people that have

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Speaker 3: at right now, people that aren't going to just give

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Speaker 3: you political mumbo jumbo to impress upon you that the

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Speaker 3: players a great guy. I want to find out for real,

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Speaker 3: how did he react in certain situations going back to

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Speaker 3: high school to college and you know, what kind of

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Speaker 3: looking that kind of the thing. And I think that's

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Speaker 3: the proper vetting. And I don't know if we actually

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Speaker 3: In our history. We've drafted some players that have had

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Speaker 3: some questionable backgrounds, and I think if you properly vetted

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Speaker 3: the other part of that I think is, Look, you're

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Speaker 3: getting ready to invest millions million dollars, if you're getting

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Speaker 3: ready to get in a relationship with somebody from a

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Speaker 3: business standpoint, you're committing five, ten, twenty million dollars to

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Speaker 3: somebody in a business relationship. Why would you not want

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Speaker 3: to have all the facts and information that you possibly

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Speaker 2: You know?

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Speaker 3: I mean to me, you got you got to spend.

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Speaker 3: You got to have the resources in house or to

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Speaker 3: do the vetting to make sure that you're making good decisions, because,

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Speaker 3: as the new general manager said, intangibly rich players are

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Speaker 3: the kind you want, and you don't find out about

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Speaker 3: those intangibles unless you're properly vetting the player.

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Speaker 2: How that works. We'll get back to the combine here

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Speaker 2: It is Jaguars Happy Hour. Those dudes kind of popped

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Speaker 2: yesterday on social media that the Jaguars were expected to

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Speaker 2: part ways with Christian Kirk. That has not officially happened yet.

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Speaker 2: Who reported that, By the way, everybody and the whole

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Speaker 2: was there an initial sorce or say sources say the

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Speaker 2: Jags are gonna get rid of Kirk? Yeah, I would

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Speaker 2: say about ten million dollars on the salary cap next year.

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Speaker 2: A guy who missed a lot of football eleven hundred

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Speaker 2: the last two seasons combined, which.

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Speaker 3: Is obviously one of the main reasons why his numbers

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Speaker 3: weren't what they were going back to twenty twenty two.

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Speaker 3: Christian Kirk's still a good football player, a very good

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Speaker 3: football player. Now, look, I I would hope that the

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Speaker 3: But when you have a good football player where maybe

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Speaker 3: I think there's a there's a point where maybe you

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Speaker 3: Maybe there's a possibility of him coming back on maybe

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Speaker 3: a better number. I know that Liam con had said,

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Speaker 3: about how you'd like to have Trevor Lawrence kind of

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Speaker 3: So you know, until something actually happened, let's kind of

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Speaker 2: It's a lot of money on the sideline though if

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Speaker 2: he's not playing. He hasn't finished the last two seasons,

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Speaker 2: no doubt, no doubt.

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Speaker 3: I mean, and that's look, availability always supersedes ability, and

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Speaker 3: there's a way to keep him. I think he's a

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Speaker 2: It's Parker Washington ready to step in.

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Speaker 3: I think Parker Washington is super ready for the next step.

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Speaker 3: lean towards Parker just because he's younger. But he's but

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Speaker 3: he's different, you know, see Parker. A lot of people

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Speaker 3: And I don't think really anything would be farther from

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Speaker 3: Christian Kirk is more of a true slot guy. Parker,

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Speaker 3: But he's also incredibly strong. I think the yards after

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Speaker 3: but both good football players and Parker being younger, sometimes

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Speaker 2: Sometimes That's what I mean. Christian is not designed to

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Speaker 3: I think the biggest concern right now when it comes

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Speaker 3: Davis's number. The production last year did not match where

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Speaker 3: Guess somebody said something to it. I went and looked

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Speaker 3: that's the whole purpose of doing that, is that you

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Speaker 3: can upgrade your team by trading that player. Maybe not

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Speaker 3: upgrade that position, but maybe the Jaguars now feel like, hey, look,

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Speaker 3: with that cap savings, we can now allocate those dollars

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Speaker 3: to get better in some other position, and maybe we

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Speaker 3: feel really good about the young guys that we have

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Speaker 3: with Parker Washington and Brian Thomas Junior and some of

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Speaker 3: the other guys, and also the possibility as a future

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Speaker 3: draft pick, and maybe we need to allocate those dollars

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Speaker 3: of paying offensive lineman, I mean wherever that may be.

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Speaker 3: As long as you can improve your team by trading

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Speaker 3: that player, I don't care where that player goes.

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Speaker 2: Let's come back in a moment plenty more ahead on

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Speaker 2: a busy day as we lead into the NFL league year.

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Speaker 2: Next week, this twenty twenty five season will officially begin,

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Speaker 2: free agency will get underway. We'll discuss some pending free

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Speaker 2: agents for the Jaguars. Coming up again. Christian Kirk just

451
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Speaker 2: moments ago traded to the Houston Texans. Mitch Morris announced

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Speaker 2: his retirement today and this is Jaguars happy hour.

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Speaker 5: Most people know that he cut his teeth a bit

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Speaker 5: with the Rams. He actually was a Kentucky the year

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Speaker 5: that Will Levis had a terrific season in Kentucky. But

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Speaker 5: what struck me about the Bucks run game last year

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Speaker 5: was how multiple it was. Because you know, everybody assumes, hey,

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Speaker 5: he was with the Rams, so it's the zone run game.

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Speaker 5: You know, the McVeigh run game. But I thought they

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Speaker 5: did a really really good job with the multiplicity of

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Speaker 5: the run game and the way they got to base run.

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Speaker 5: See the main thing in the run game, there's not

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Speaker 5: a thousand run concepts, so it's really how you get

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Speaker 5: to them. It's funny. I had this conversation with a

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Speaker 5: coach this morning because and I even asked him. I said,

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Speaker 5: you know, you hear people say so, and so it's

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Speaker 5: a really good run game. Coach like, what does that mean?

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Speaker 5: You know you're a defensive guy, what does that mean?

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Speaker 5: And you know, he talked about how teams get to runs,

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Speaker 5: formation motions, you know, misdirection looks, you know, but the

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Speaker 5: then when the run happens, like I said, there's not

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Speaker 5: a thousand of them.

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Speaker 2: That is Greg Coach. Cell of the NFL Films and

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Speaker 2: NFL Matchup, Welcome Back, It's Jaguars Happy Hour, JP Shadwick,

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Speaker 2: Jeff Lagam, Great Cosel, the nephew of the great, late

476
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Speaker 2: great Howard Cosell. Does a great job with the NFL

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Speaker 2: films and all the matchup on ESPN. Yeah, yeah, it

478
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Speaker 2: does a good job really breaking down film and doing

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Speaker 2: the whole thing. On social media, and nice to visit

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Speaker 2: with him at the combine again. All the interviews at

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Speaker 2: Jaguars do common together on one video on Jaguars YouTube.

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Speaker 2: And it's a busy time of year at Daily's place logs,

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Speaker 2: very busy Zach Top last night out of nowhere? And

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Speaker 2: how old is he?

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Speaker 6: Like?

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Speaker 3: Young twenties, young twenty six?

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you were telling me the story that he was

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Speaker 3: going to be playing a local place and then it

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Speaker 3: literally sold out, and then he moved it to Daily's

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Speaker 3: Place a couple of days before and then sold out,

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Speaker 3: sold out last night.

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Speaker 2: Zach Top, unbelieved z a c right, Yes, Zach Top,

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Speaker 2: he was fantastic. Got to add him to my Spotify.

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Speaker 2: He was great, all right, So great crowd last night.

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Speaker 2: Coming up March firfteenth to Coraif for band, that's Jimmy

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Speaker 2: Buffet's backing band, Tricking Concert. Teddy Swims made tenth tea

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Speaker 2: paid added May thirty. First sticks This is up your

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Speaker 2: Alley Sticks with Kevin Cronin and Don Felder June second

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Speaker 2: log like the real original Sticks. I don't know how

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Speaker 2: many are left, but I'm sure there are probably some

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Speaker 2: members of Stix that will be there. Yeah, that's one

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Speaker 2: of the seventies bands. I was okay with them. Okay, yeah,

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Speaker 2: okay with them. Cool tickets at Dailiesplace dot com and

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Speaker 2: more show information as well. Busy summer ahead there at

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Speaker 2: the Dailies again. The breaking news just moments ago, Christian

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Speaker 2: Kirk traded to the Houston Texans for a seventh round

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Speaker 2: draft pick in twenty twenty six. Earlier today, Mitch Morris

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Speaker 2: announcing his retirement from the National Football League. And we're

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Speaker 2: less than a week away from NFL free agency beginning

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Speaker 2: in the start of the league year. So a lot

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Speaker 2: of pending free agents for the Jaguars. Do you bring

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Speaker 2: some back? Do you not? How many? You know? All

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Speaker 2: that's in play right now too. So there's a lot

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Speaker 2: of business being dealt here in Jacksonville.

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Speaker 3: Well, and it's getting ready to get pretty ight the

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Speaker 3: next week, right, I mean, doesn't the legal periods time?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the legal tampering period, if you will, the Monday

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Speaker 2: and Tuesday and then Tuesday, and that's.

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Speaker 3: What it's I mean, look, it's already started. Let's let's

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Speaker 3: not kid ourselves, okay.

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Speaker 2: Here though everywhere else in the league. Yeah, look, I'm

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Speaker 2: with you.

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Speaker 5: I hear you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the the conversations are happening, however they need to happen.

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Speaker 3: But I mean the reality is that by creating a

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Speaker 3: tampering period, a known tampering period, essentially the league is

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Speaker 3: acknowledging that we cannot stop it. So we're just gonna

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Speaker 3: call it a legal tampering period because we know it's

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Speaker 3: going to happen even before the legal tampering period. Once

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Speaker 3: we put that name on it, it is what it is,

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Speaker 3: you know. And look, uh, looking at the free agent list,

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Speaker 3: I think it's a little bit slim pickens this year.

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Speaker 3: You're going to be able to, I think, fill some

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Speaker 3: holes on your roster, which I think is always the

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Speaker 3: main object of free agency. But I mean you're not

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Speaker 3: gonna get any stars. I don't think you're gonna get

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Speaker 3: guys that all have some kind of chinks in the armor,

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Speaker 3: so to speak. I think the interesting one is is

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Speaker 3: Joey Bosa. Now, who is guys out there now after

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Speaker 3: getting released by the Charger And what will that do

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Speaker 3: to the market of events. I mean, Sweats kind of

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Speaker 3: was that top guy on the market. Now you put

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Speaker 3: a boas out there and just the name itself attracts

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Speaker 3: a lot of attention.

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Speaker 2: And then Bengals are letting Trey Hendrickson look for a

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Speaker 2: trade deal. Yeah, I mean that's I mean, gosh, that's

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Speaker 2: gonna be I.

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Speaker 3: Mean, while it's a lot of money, and then it's

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Speaker 3: also it's gonna you're it's gonna the price is gonna

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Speaker 3: be high. You're talking in an elite pass rusher. Arguably

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Speaker 3: the best pass rusher in the last two years in

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Speaker 3: the league, right, I mean from a number standpoint, he.

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Speaker 2: Beat everybody by like three sacks last year.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean the last two years he's been right there.

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Speaker 3: I mean, he's his numbers have I think, beat Miles

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Speaker 3: Garrett by a couple of sacks each year.

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Speaker 2: That's another guy that could look for it. Which which

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Speaker 2: is they? He doesn't he wants out. Oh yeah. Look.

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Speaker 3: And and and the Browns where he's at. They just

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Speaker 3: kicked the can down the road even further with the

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Speaker 3: Shaun Watson deal. I mean, the worst signing in NFL history,

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Speaker 3: and the Cleveland Browns continue to just kick the can

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Speaker 3: down the road. At some point you got to pay

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Speaker 3: the piper. You're just gonna have to grin and Barrett

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Speaker 3: and do it. At one point, at what point can

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Speaker 3: they just release the guy and say, you know what,

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Speaker 3: we'll just spread the cap it over X number of years.

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Speaker 2: Could probably do that. I don't know. Maybe they feel

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Speaker 2: they should still.

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Speaker 3: Get some of it, but I mean, that's that's like

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Speaker 3: such a bad situation, and I mean, that's one of

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Speaker 3: the reasons why Miles Garrett wants out. It was the

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Speaker 3: worst contract in NFL history there was you had a

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Speaker 3: reason to have to to essentially proceed with caution with

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Speaker 3: Deshaun Watson. It wasn't like the allegations weren't out there

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Speaker 3: when they signed them, you know, and it wasn't like

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Speaker 3: they popped up suddenly after they gave him a guaranteed contract.

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Speaker 3: I mean, just terrible decision by the Browns, and ownership

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Speaker 3: of the Browns supposedly were at the forefront of that.

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Speaker 3: And that's one of the reasons why Miles Garrett wants out.

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Speaker 3: I mean, can you compete when you have that lingering

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Speaker 3: over your franchise?

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Speaker 2: It's tough to No, you can't. It's tough. Not a

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Speaker 2: good situation. Plays well, okay, different he hadn't played well

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Speaker 2: and he's been hurt, So not a good deal. Haven't

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Speaker 2: got anything out, not a good by the way, Wednesday

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Speaker 2: the twelfth is the start of the league year at

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Speaker 2: four o'clock crest. So Monday, two, Tuesday, Tampa away all

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Speaker 2: day Wednesday.

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Speaker 3: Negotiate your contracts on Monday and Tuesday, and then announce

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Speaker 3: I'm on Wednesday, which you're not supposed to do, right,

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Speaker 3: You know you're supposed to.

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Speaker 2: Actually you're supposed to. You're supposed to.

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Speaker 3: Wait for the negotiations until free agency starts, which is

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Speaker 3: a bunch of bs. It's happening even probably right now.

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Speaker 3: That's reality.

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Speaker 2: That's how it works. Yeah, it's free agency, man, I'm

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Speaker 2: all for it. What do you guys make money? Jags

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Speaker 2: have some holes now, so how many can you plug

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Speaker 2: in free agency? There are some some dollars coming back

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Speaker 2: after this curtain deal.

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Speaker 3: In a in a perfect world that you would you

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Speaker 3: would plug all the holes in free agency. When I

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Speaker 3: say plug all the holes, I'm not talking about top

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Speaker 3: end guys. I'm just saying, get somebody in there that's

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Speaker 3: capable and if they got to roll out as a

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Speaker 3: starter for twenty twenty five, okay, you can break the huddle. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: we're you know, we're not we're not scared. You know,

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Speaker 3: we'll be okay. But you try to fill all in

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Speaker 3: my opinion, you fill all the holes with guys that

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Speaker 3: are okay, and then then you go draft players that

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Speaker 3: you want to replace them with. I mean, in the

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Speaker 3: real in reality, you'd love to keep you know, you'd

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Speaker 3: love to have you know, a third or fourth or

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Speaker 3: a fifth round pick from two years ago or three

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Speaker 3: years ago stepping in to the job right now, and

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Speaker 3: then you sign a guy to compete. But I mean,

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Speaker 3: the backlog of draft picks are not suddenly roaring to

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Speaker 3: the front to take control of some of these positions

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Speaker 3: that you need help at. And that's one of the

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Speaker 3: reasons why the teams where it is because you know,

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Speaker 3: there's not a lot of those draft picks that are

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Speaker 3: ready to jump right in, you know. And that's why

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Speaker 3: when you have an injury like Cooper Hodge as you

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Speaker 3: got dog on it, you know, he's a guy that

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Speaker 3: you felt really good about, you know, and you go

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Speaker 3: back in Jaguars history, Tavian Banks was a guy that

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Speaker 3: you know, a lot of Jaguar fans are maybe too

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Speaker 3: young enough to even remember him. He was a guy

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Speaker 3: that was and I thought gonna be a great third

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Speaker 3: down back for this organization, and had had a bad

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Speaker 3: knee injury, horrific knee injury and and really never made

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Speaker 3: it back. But and Michael Cheever another one who had

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Speaker 3: an injury. It was, you know, drafted to be a

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Speaker 3: center out of Georgia Tech, good guy and was a

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Speaker 3: good football player and then had a back injury and

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Speaker 3: then career was cut short.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 3: I mean, so even though I mean, first of all,

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Speaker 3: you got to try to get a good player, and

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Speaker 3: then you have to have a little bit of luck

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Speaker 3: to have that player end up getting to the point

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Speaker 3: where he's been a productive player for you, you know,

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Speaker 3: staying healthy, et cetera. So, but this franchise needs to

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Speaker 3: get to the point just like the Rams have been

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Speaker 3: doing over the last couple of years, which James Gladstone

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Speaker 3: was a part of, to where you're drafting and developing,

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Speaker 3: drafting and playing gating players that can come in and

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Speaker 3: play football. Everybody thought the Rams after the Super Bowl

652
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Speaker 3: because of their cap situation, we're going to be junk

653
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Speaker 3: after that, they never got to the point of being jumped.

654
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:06,040
Speaker 3: They went out and they drafted good football players without

655
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Speaker 3: having a high amount of picks and then we're a

656
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Speaker 3: good football team they needed. This football team needs to

657
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Speaker 3: get there.

658
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Speaker 2: Gladstone was behind the scenes of most of that, as

659
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Speaker 2: the scouting.

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Speaker 3: Well a big part of it. Do you see Sean

661
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Speaker 3: mcvay's comments on Gladstone recently. It's something about how Gladstone

662
00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:28,040
Speaker 3: is an absolute stud and he's excited about seeing what

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Speaker 3: he does in Jacksonville. I want to say it was

664
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Speaker 3: on Pat McAfee or something that mcvaye was on and

665
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Speaker 3: just I mean singing the praises of James Gladstone. And

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Speaker 3: you know when you see that, mcvaye's not going to

667
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Speaker 3: blow smoke. There's no reason to blow smoke at this point.

668
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Speaker 3: Gladstone's got the job. So when McVeigh comes out and

669
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Speaker 3: says that as strongly as he does, then to me,

670
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Speaker 3: I think that's just fantastic for Jaguar, the Jaguar fan

671
00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:57,239
Speaker 3: base because if he's saying.

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Speaker 2: That, he means it. I mean, think about the amount

673
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Speaker 2: of talent that has come out of the LA Rams

674
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Speaker 2: and the McVeigh less sneed situation. Right, what three other

675
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Speaker 2: head coaches now in the league have come out working

676
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Speaker 2: for McVeigh. Yeah, that's pretty remarkable. A little coaching trees

677
00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:14,440
Speaker 2: got going on. And he's still under forty, isn't he

678
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Speaker 2: And oh he's you know, he's still still incredibly young

679
00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:20,960
Speaker 2: and got a young family and less Need you know,

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Speaker 2: Less Sneed was part of the first year of the Jaguars.

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Speaker 3: I mean, he was a part of Tom Coughlin's staff.

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Speaker 3: You know, him and Matt mccoola were kind of the

683
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Speaker 3: two of the guys that were hustling, uh free agents

684
00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:40,280
Speaker 3: and things of that nature. When I say hustling free agents,

685
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:44,840
Speaker 3: doing dealing with a lot of the the mechanics of

686
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:47,839
Speaker 3: free agents on their visit because I remember Matt and

687
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Speaker 3: obviously Less being involved in that heavily. Two good guys,

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Speaker 3: and less Less he's doing a great job. He's doing

689
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Speaker 3: a great job. And I don't know if you happen

690
00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:58,799
Speaker 3: to see some of his comments about bringing back their

691
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:02,240
Speaker 3: quarterback Matthew staff effort and how they kind of renewed

692
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Speaker 3: their vows. But and he talked about the future about

693
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Speaker 3: trying to find, you know, an heir apparent, and he's

694
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Speaker 3: just he's.

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Speaker 2: A very.

696
00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:16,760
Speaker 3: Very well spoken got great opinions on what it takes

697
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:19,160
Speaker 3: and how the system works and what the NFL is like,

698
00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:20,440
Speaker 3: he's a smart guy.

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Speaker 2: Let's need is a smart guy. I'll give you a

700
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Speaker 2: dollar if you can name his hometown less. I have

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Speaker 2: no idea. It's an Alabama Is it Birmingham, Tuscaloose chance,

702
00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:34,960
Speaker 2: you're not gonna get it.

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Speaker 3: It's a small town. It's very Selma. Uh no, no,

704
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Speaker 3: I give up.

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Speaker 2: The town called you Falla and Georgia on Georgia line. Yeah,

706
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Speaker 2: it's where he's from. Yep, yep. Drove through there quite

707
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Speaker 2: a few times. Goes right through there. I think, yeah,

708
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Speaker 2: I think it does. And what's the.

709
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Speaker 3: Name of the Georgia town on the other side, Columbus, Columbus.

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Speaker 2: So you know that's you're talking about Phoenix City that's

711
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Speaker 2: up the road. This is further south follows.

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Speaker 3: I'm trying to think think of the name of the

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Speaker 3: Georgia town that's close to the border.

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Speaker 2: It starts with the sea. Though we're back in anyway,

715
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:14,520
Speaker 2: we're talking geography. Now we've gone off the way, way

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Speaker 2: way off. Back. In a moment, we'll wrap it up

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Speaker 2: for the day. A busy day around the Miller Electric

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Speaker 2: Center from the Hyundai studios. This is Jaguars happy hour.

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Speaker 6: I think that the system that he will be able

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Speaker 6: to bring into place, will be one that is at

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Speaker 6: least a way to surface where things are not right

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Speaker 6: quickly so you can address them. And it will help

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Speaker 6: provide things, you know, in a in a way that

724
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Speaker 6: makes sense and keeps making sense. So I think a

725
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Speaker 6: system helps form an identity, and identity is really hard

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Speaker 6: to keep over time, especially you know when you've had

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Speaker 6: different people rotating through for a while, then it's hard

728
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Speaker 6: to have an identity. So right, but we've that focus

729
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Speaker 6: in that system, and that structure creates a nice foundation

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Speaker 6: to work from. That's that's where I think you will

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Speaker 6: know what is JAG right, Like how what are the

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Speaker 6: traits that we what is our emission statement?

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Speaker 2: Cynthia Friedland, NFL media analytics expert, joining us at the

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Speaker 2: combine last week. The full interview and all of them

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Speaker 2: available at Jaguars dot Com and Jaguars YouTube and Welcome

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Speaker 2: dot Com, Jaguars YouTube, JP, Shadwick, Jeff Logman, Our Entire

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Speaker 2: Crew Free Agency March twelfth off season program April seventh,

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Speaker 2: business being attended to today, Mitch Morris retiring from the NFL

741
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Speaker 2: the JAG Center, and then Christian Kirk just a few

742
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:52,560
Speaker 2: moments ago traded to the Houston Texans for a twenty

743
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Speaker 2: twenty six seventh round pick. The word was he was

744
00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:58,160
Speaker 2: gonna get cut anyway, so get a draft pick out

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Speaker 2: of it.

746
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Speaker 3: Well, and then part of the reason why I think

747
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Speaker 3: a lot of times that information gets put out about

748
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Speaker 3: how he's going to get cut is to put everybody

749
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Speaker 3: on notice that Hey, look, you know, if you want them,

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Speaker 3: give us a call.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So that's the big news of the day.

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Speaker 1: You know.

753
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Speaker 2: We're at the Combine last week and we're sitting there

754
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Speaker 2: and I'm kind of scrolling around on the internet and boom,

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Speaker 2: here comes the NFLPA twenty twenty five report card that

756
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Speaker 2: the player's Association puts out every year. Just happened to

757
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Speaker 2: pop up during the combine week. And this has been

758
00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:35,160
Speaker 2: one of the greatest tools that the NFLPA has had

759
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Speaker 2: available at their discretion since they came up with the

760
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Speaker 2: idea of doing it. How long have they done this?

761
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Speaker 3: Not that long? I mean, I mean it didn't exist

762
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Speaker 3: when I was playing.

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Speaker 2: I wish it did.

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Speaker 3: I think because the actual report card on teams have

765
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Speaker 3: actually spurred change with a lot of teams that have

766
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Speaker 3: had poor grades in certain categories and the wars overall

767
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Speaker 3: ranked in the teams. I don't think it was eighteenth

768
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Speaker 3: overall in the National Football League.

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Speaker 2: Well, they were fifth the year before overall fifth. Yes,

770
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Speaker 2: so fell from fifth to eighteen.

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Speaker 3: And some of the comments were quite striking if you

772
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Speaker 3: read the overview. When asked what their top improvement area

773
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Speaker 3: would be, each of the top three answers reflect low

774
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Speaker 3: ratings of former head coach Doug Peterson. Players cite poor

775
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Speaker 3: time efficiency, a lack of willingness to listen, and a

776
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Speaker 3: weak team culture, all issues they hope head coached Liam

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Speaker 3: Cohne will address going forward. The positive note on the

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Speaker 3: summary says the team's recently upgraded physical facilities continue to

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Speaker 3: receive strong grades, as does ownershot Con and.

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Speaker 2: All right, I have a quick comment slash question. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's always coaching in the NFL. We know this, right,

782
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Speaker 2: I mean, it's not the blown coverages in the back end,

783
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Speaker 2: the one score losses where you might have thrown a pick.

784
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Speaker 3: It's a little bit everything.

785
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Speaker 2: But they get the you know, players get the opportunity

786
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Speaker 2: to go vote and after the fact, hey, this is

787
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Speaker 2: what happened. I don't know. Well, I will say that

788
00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:17,480
Speaker 2: everybody is at fault.

789
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Speaker 3: If you ran the analytics on the report card, which

790
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Speaker 3: I don't know how you would do that, you would

791
00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:30,160
Speaker 3: probably most likely find that winning and losing is the

792
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Speaker 3: greatest influence on where the grades are at. So teams

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Speaker 3: that win will have higher grades. Is it because they're

794
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:41,759
Speaker 3: doing it the right way? Or is it because the

795
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:44,480
Speaker 3: team is winning and it makes everything, makes the food

796
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:48,640
Speaker 3: taste better, makes the relationships better, locker room is spacious

797
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:51,160
Speaker 3: all the same year exactly, and so I think a

798
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Speaker 3: lot of that has to do with it. And it

799
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Speaker 3: was a tough year and I think which obviously reflected

800
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Speaker 3: in some of the grades. But I think it's good

801
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Speaker 3: that the NFLPA does this, and I don't think it's

802
00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:02,879
Speaker 3: the end all be all, but I think it's an

803
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Speaker 3: indicator and it can be used to help spur change

804
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:10,920
Speaker 3: in situations where change is needed. And some of the

805
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:16,360
Speaker 3: categories that are that are kind of low. Treatment of

806
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Speaker 3: the families is right there at the bottom. I mean,

807
00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:21,040
Speaker 3: they got an F in that, So you know, I

808
00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:24,480
Speaker 3: don't know exactly what the good teams do differently, but

809
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:26,720
Speaker 3: I think as an organization you would like to find

810
00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:30,720
Speaker 3: that out to maybe have that be a better grade

811
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Speaker 3: going forward. Head coach was the second worst grade in

812
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Speaker 3: the National Football League thirty first because Doug got a C.

813
00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:41,719
Speaker 3: The other see the food dining area, which is kind

814
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Speaker 3: of surprising to me because here at the mech the

815
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:49,480
Speaker 3: brand new cafeteria. So is that that you're not winning

816
00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:52,200
Speaker 3: the food doesn't taste good? Or is that that the

817
00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:53,399
Speaker 3: food needs to be better here?

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Speaker 2: I don't know, man silly, but to give you an idea,

819
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Speaker 2: you're talking about winning can change thing.

820
00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:01,560
Speaker 3: Sure, sure can.

821
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Speaker 2: But why are the Chiefs ranked twenty sixth out of

822
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Speaker 2: thirty two teams? Then? And what in overall twenty six

823
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:11,520
Speaker 2: great question? Chiefs, it's a great question. Their ownership gets

824
00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:13,640
Speaker 2: a C minus. Great question.

825
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:17,120
Speaker 3: And what is Andy Reid's like the best coach and

826
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Speaker 3: one of the best coaches on the list?

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Speaker 2: Right he gets an A plus he's fourth, But like

828
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:25,520
Speaker 2: facilities are a big demerit there for.

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Speaker 3: And and here's the here's the great thing that report

830
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:37,960
Speaker 3: card now can get red from ownership to team president

831
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:42,680
Speaker 3: to Andy Reid to the city of Kansas City, but

832
00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:46,680
Speaker 3: which remember now there's a stadium thing kind of going

833
00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:48,640
Speaker 3: on there that they'd like to have a better stadium

834
00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:52,920
Speaker 3: and better facilities out of all of that, right, So

835
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Speaker 3: you know, I think that this is another tool to

836
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Speaker 3: help kind of get some of that change.

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Speaker 2: It also, and I don't know the Kansas City. I've

838
00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:02,920
Speaker 2: never been to their actual football facility.

839
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Speaker 3: Wall you have well, I know you haven't been. You

840
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:05,840
Speaker 3: you've never been in the stadium.

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00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:07,279
Speaker 2: I've been to the stadium, but I don't know if

842
00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:08,120
Speaker 2: they practice there.

843
00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:10,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, facilities right there.

844
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:13,840
Speaker 2: It's right there. It goes to show you can win.

845
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Speaker 3: With I'm pretty sure the facility almost positive.

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Speaker 2: You don't have to have, like I mean, you can

847
00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:21,680
Speaker 2: go win if you have good football players.

848
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean looking Yeah, I mean, look, there's a

849
00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:29,480
Speaker 3: lot of ways to win. I don't think there's You

850
00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:33,920
Speaker 3: don't have to have the best facility, the best dietitian,

851
00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:37,960
Speaker 3: the best food, the best coach, the best weight room,

852
00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:40,520
Speaker 3: the best field. You don't have to have all the

853
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:44,360
Speaker 3: best of everything. You can help it doesn't hurt. The

854
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:47,680
Speaker 3: most important thing you need is the right culture and

855
00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:51,799
Speaker 3: the right players. That should be right there at top.

856
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Speaker 3: But they don't have a culture category. But somehow the

857
00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:55,520
Speaker 3: culture came up.

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Speaker 2: How do you rank cultures?

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Speaker 3: Everybody's got a different that's a great that's a great question.

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Speaker 2: I don't know that.

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00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:03,439
Speaker 3: But the culture came up when it was evaluating Doug

862
00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:09,000
Speaker 3: Peterson in the survey on their overviewe So, but there's

863
00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:11,960
Speaker 3: not a culture category that I found.

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00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:14,640
Speaker 2: At least culture is very strong in Philly these days,

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00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:15,640
Speaker 2: probably because.

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00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:20,760
Speaker 3: And he got a big fat extension. He certainly twenty

867
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Speaker 3: one million a year something like that.

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00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:23,600
Speaker 2: He's worth it.

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00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:27,080
Speaker 3: He's a great player, great player, and he signed a

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00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:29,680
Speaker 3: new deal when he got there. So this is is

871
00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:32,520
Speaker 3: this added on or did they renegotiate the Because I

872
00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:33,840
Speaker 3: was trying to figure this out.

873
00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:36,000
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know the answer to that one.

874
00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:38,160
Speaker 3: We'll find that out. We'll bring it up next week.

875
00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:39,880
Speaker 3: But I mean, he's the highest paid running back in

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00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:42,880
Speaker 3: the National Football League. He's the best running back in

877
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:44,879
Speaker 3: the National football He should be the highest paid running

878
00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:48,759
Speaker 3: back in the National Football League. I mean, what do

879
00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:52,439
Speaker 3: you think Jalen Hurts was worth? Like, ignore what he's

880
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:54,680
Speaker 3: making now. If you had to put a number on

881
00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:59,680
Speaker 3: Jalen Hurts in today's not last year's cap or this

882
00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:04,239
Speaker 3: year's captain. I don't think he is. I think he's

883
00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:06,120
Speaker 3: a really good football player. I don't think he's fifty

884
00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:07,799
Speaker 3: million dollars a year quarterback.

885
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:12,520
Speaker 2: For Barkley's a two year, forty one million dollar extension extension,

886
00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:15,360
Speaker 2: so he's tacked on. So he's making over twenty What

887
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:17,840
Speaker 2: did he get upfront out of that thirty six million

888
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:22,760
Speaker 2: full guarantee? Exciting? Making her an additional fifteen million through incentives.

889
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:28,239
Speaker 2: Good for him, But it works so well because Hurts is.

890
00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:31,640
Speaker 3: Such a weapon alls well, I mean, look those two guys,

891
00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:35,000
Speaker 3: those two guys compliment each other. Having Jalen Hurts a

892
00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:39,440
Speaker 3: running quarterback make Saquon Barkley a better back because the

893
00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:43,840
Speaker 3: thread of Jalen Hurts running helps him from a number standpoint,

894
00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:46,560
Speaker 3: So they help each other. Barkley helps take the pressure

895
00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:49,959
Speaker 3: off the passing game, helps Jalen Hurts have a better

896
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:52,400
Speaker 3: pocket because of the thread of Barkley is a runner.

897
00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:56,240
Speaker 3: It's it's it's complementary. So those two are really good,

898
00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:59,000
Speaker 3: really good for each other, really good for each other.

899
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:02,000
Speaker 3: But I mean Jalen Hurts, if I had to put

900
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:05,440
Speaker 3: a number on him, I mean super Bowl quarterback. I mean,

901
00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:08,000
Speaker 3: I'm giving him as props, but I mean I'm he's

902
00:47:08,040 --> 00:47:10,360
Speaker 3: not in the category of Mahomes, which Mahomes is a

903
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:11,880
Speaker 3: fifty million dollars a year quarterback.

904
00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:17,680
Speaker 2: Right, You're gonna let him walk? Jaialen hurts. I don't.

905
00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:19,759
Speaker 3: I don't want to let him walk. I mean, he

906
00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:22,800
Speaker 3: won a Super Bowl for him. He will pay him fifty.

907
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:25,160
Speaker 3: Do you think somebody would pay him fifty?

908
00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:27,080
Speaker 2: Keeps playing at a high level, they keep winning games, Oh.

909
00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:28,960
Speaker 3: Fift, they keep winning games. He's gonna be make fifty.

910
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:30,160
Speaker 3: But I mean, right now, I'd put him in a

911
00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:32,120
Speaker 3: forty forty category.

912
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:35,800
Speaker 2: I mean, he's a lot. He got the exception already.

913
00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:37,440
Speaker 2: He's already got it. And where is he at now?

914
00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:40,200
Speaker 2: He's fifty, He's fifty one a year. He's fifty one

915
00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:41,960
Speaker 2: a year. Yeah, he already got an extent. It's good

916
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:44,799
Speaker 2: for him. Yeah, are you sure he's fifty one? I'm

917
00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:47,239
Speaker 2: looking at it. He's at fifty one and Trevor's at

918
00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:49,680
Speaker 2: what fifty five? Because he was drafted in twenty three

919
00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:52,680
Speaker 2: and then, uh sid he's a good football player. I

920
00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:53,040
Speaker 2: know that.

921
00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:55,080
Speaker 3: I love how he just stays cool and calm. There's

922
00:47:55,120 --> 00:47:57,960
Speaker 3: a there's points so the and I'm kind of nitpicking here.

923
00:47:58,000 --> 00:47:59,719
Speaker 3: I mean, sometimes he doesn't see the field as a

924
00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:03,560
Speaker 3: pass I think leads to some fresh frustration from his

925
00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:07,080
Speaker 3: wide receivers, which has been noticeable over the last couple

926
00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:10,920
Speaker 3: of years at times. But the threat of him running

927
00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:15,040
Speaker 3: the way that he can essentially guarantee a third and one,

928
00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:18,320
Speaker 3: a second and one or a fourth and one because

929
00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:20,120
Speaker 3: of the push, and he's a big part of that.

930
00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:24,040
Speaker 3: He's a really good football player and Super Bowl champion,

931
00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:27,520
Speaker 3: So I guess he is worth fifty, right.

932
00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:28,759
Speaker 2: I mean it's getting.

933
00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:31,680
Speaker 3: Best, especially when the when the cap was is going

934
00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:32,520
Speaker 3: to go up by how.

935
00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:35,080
Speaker 2: Much this year? Another twenty five or.

936
00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:40,160
Speaker 3: So twenty five, the thirty million something like that. It's

937
00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:43,040
Speaker 3: like every year it's just taking an these huge jumps

938
00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:44,840
Speaker 3: and every That's why a lot of teams are pushing

939
00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:47,520
Speaker 3: that money out into the future because they just feel like, oh,

940
00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:49,520
Speaker 3: the cap, the cap will keep growing just because it

941
00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:52,000
Speaker 3: has been probably will be. It has been grown by.

942
00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:54,000
Speaker 2: A lot, especially when they redoing the money. All the

943
00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:56,520
Speaker 2: media contracts in a number of years, they're all due

944
00:48:56,520 --> 00:48:59,799
Speaker 2: about the same time. Yeah, and then, uh, I guess

945
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:02,520
Speaker 2: a lot of these streaming services are talking about getting

946
00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:05,239
Speaker 2: into the mix for the weekly broadcast stuff. I mean

947
00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:07,319
Speaker 2: not just little you know games here and there. I

948
00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:10,080
Speaker 2: don't know what Netflix played for the Christmas Games, but

949
00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:13,640
Speaker 2: it wasn't cheap to get two games. No, no, And

950
00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:16,719
Speaker 2: they're talking about maybe being a player for the like

951
00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:21,200
Speaker 2: with compete against a package with Fox or CBS to

952
00:49:21,239 --> 00:49:22,360
Speaker 2: get a regular rotation.

953
00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:26,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, I can imagine, definitely imagine. You know, a couple

954
00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:28,600
Speaker 3: of years ago, I couldn't imagine that. But I mean nowadays,

955
00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:30,839
Speaker 3: I mean, streaming services seem to be like the norm.

956
00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:33,320
Speaker 3: It's not like it's a it's a rarity anymore.

957
00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:38,680
Speaker 2: Hey, next week clocks four o'clock. Yeah, it's gonna be

958
00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:41,040
Speaker 2: the day after free agency. So we might have actual

959
00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:44,239
Speaker 2: free agent free agency around and sign that's great. You

960
00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:49,000
Speaker 2: never know. Yeah, I'm looking forward to that. Wednesday, Wednesday,

961
00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:51,480
Speaker 2: four o'clock. We're on the air Thursday, four o'clock. So

962
00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:54,560
Speaker 2: it starts Wednesday at four four o'clock. Okay, so they

963
00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:56,440
Speaker 2: could end up having somebody walk in the door right

964
00:49:56,520 --> 00:50:01,160
Speaker 2: in four o one. They could in theory fastest contract

965
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Speaker 2: negotiation effort. I'm believing I have a great week.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you two, and I'm looking forward to free agency

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Speaker 3: and looking forward to what's next. Host football team.

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Speaker 2: That's Jeff Logman, I'm JP Shatterck. And thanks to Joe Fortunato,

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Speaker 2: Brett Reeberd, David Choe and our entire crew. And thanks

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Speaker 2: to you for watching and listening to Jaguars Happy Hour