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Speaker 1: You're listening to you an airwave media podcast. Hi everybody,

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Speaker 1: and welcome to Hooded. What now the history podcast? It's

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Speaker 1: not your history class with me? Your host Kertie Charlewood,

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Speaker 1: history harlan and reader of books. Yes, my voice is

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Speaker 1: dodgy again. We're just going to power through it. It's fine,

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Speaker 1: we'll get over it together. As long as it's not

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Speaker 1: too distracting for you. I'm fairly certain I'll survive. So

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Speaker 1: I don't know what I'm doing wrong with the new

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Speaker 1: system that I'm uploading my podcast to, but I keep

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Speaker 1: scheduling it for like certain dates, and then it's not

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Speaker 1: publishing on those certain dates. And I, being the absolute

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Speaker 1: sausage that I am, didn't go check, like what is

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Speaker 1: that about?

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Speaker 2: Mate?

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Speaker 1: I didn't think to look at whether it had come

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Speaker 1: up or not. No, I just assumed that I had

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Speaker 1: scheduled it correctly. Clearly I have not. So I have

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Speaker 1: scheduled this episode, but then I will check. So if

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Speaker 1: this isn't our first thing on Tuesday, then I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: have to manually set all the episodes. It's fine, I'll

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Speaker 1: make it work because it's who I am, very confident

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Speaker 1: in myself. Aren't I absolutely one. I have had such

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Speaker 1: a lazy Sunday, Like I spent yesterday going up and

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Speaker 1: down the loft or the addict depending on your region,

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Speaker 1: getting clothes sordid and putting stuff away. So mainly my

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Speaker 1: mom's and my kids stuff. Like I haven't even touched

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Speaker 1: mine this year, so all my stuff is split into,

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Speaker 1: as some of you know, autumn, winter and spring summer.

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Speaker 1: So I do that with the kids too, So anything

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Speaker 1: or anything that I've bought in advanced four springtime is

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Speaker 1: getting put up. Their winter stuff that all came down,

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Speaker 1: stuff that I, you know, purchased last year that turned

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Speaker 1: out to be a bit too big, things like that,

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Speaker 1: and they're all down and it's all getting ready. I

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Speaker 1: because I got them big, so they've got those to wear,

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Speaker 1: especially as we're probably not gonna be able to heat

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Speaker 1: the house the same way this year. I think fluffy

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Speaker 1: pajamas for everybody is just I think how we're gonna

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Speaker 1: have to do it, really, So we're getting stuff sorted,

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Speaker 1: and I did that and then today I was like, hmm,

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Speaker 1: I'm not feeling great, so I ended up chilling out

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Speaker 1: with my mom all day and we watched several hours

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Speaker 1: of Agatha Christie. There was like a murder mystery like

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Speaker 1: day happening on one of the channels, and it was like, yes,

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Speaker 1: we're watching black and white, Margaret Rutherford and murder. She said,

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Speaker 1: we had Glenn clothes and crooked house, and then of

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Speaker 1: course some classic Quaro. Can't turn down some classic Quaro.

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Speaker 1: No Tommy and Tuppins. I'm afraid what I do miss though,

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Speaker 1: is there used to be this show. I used to

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Speaker 1: be able to watch it, but I literally haven't seen

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Speaker 1: it in for Yonks, it was a French version, I believe,

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Speaker 1: of Partners in Crime. I think it was like the

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Speaker 1: Pitty Milt or something like that. It was a detective

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Speaker 1: although I think there might be a Portuguese version of it. Now.

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Speaker 1: I love that. I love that retro vintage sort of

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Speaker 1: murdering mystery Agatha Christie sort of vibe like that is

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Speaker 1: very much a flavor. I enjoy, bloody love of we

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Speaker 1: who done it. Absolutely. I actually want to rebuild my

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Speaker 1: Agatha Christie collection book collection that is. I used to

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Speaker 1: have a decent reselection of the books and they got

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Speaker 1: damaged in storage, which is just unfortunate, but sometimes these

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Speaker 1: things happen, so I'm just hoping to slowly just rebuild it,

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Speaker 1: especially when you have these fantastic artists creating these gorgeous covers,

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Speaker 1: the Art Deco style that people are recreating, and you've

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Speaker 1: just got these really gorgeous, gorgeous covers and it's cover.

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Speaker 1: No motherfucker people get paid good money for you to

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Speaker 1: judge that book by its cover.

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Speaker 2: So yes, I'd love to do that.

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Speaker 1: Oh and before I go any further, I should mention

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Speaker 1: that at Bartie told me that over in Canada, someone

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Speaker 1: handed in a school history report with me listed as

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Speaker 1: the source. So if this was you, if you are

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Speaker 1: that person, Hi, you're awesome. You're currently my favorite Canadian.

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Speaker 2: And keep up the good work. You're brilliant. All right,

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Speaker 2: you are.

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Speaker 1: Now I know what all of you are thinking.

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Speaker 2: You're thinking what your jibber jabber.

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Speaker 1: In fact me, in fact you I will the first.

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Speaker 1: We've got to get our source on. Our sources are

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Speaker 1: America's Queen, The Life of Jacqueline Kennedy and Nasis by

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Speaker 1: Sayah Bradford.

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Speaker 2: What Jackie taught Us?

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Speaker 1: Lessons from the Remarkable Life of Jacqueline by Tina Flaherty.

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Speaker 1: One Nation under Sex. How the private lives of Presidents,

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Speaker 1: first Ladies and their lovers changed the course of American

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Speaker 1: History by Isabek David and Larry Flint. Jacqueline Bouvier Kennedy

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Speaker 1: Onassis by Barbara Leeming, The Time of Their Lives by

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Speaker 1: Al Silverman, Jacqueline boo Vie Kennedy Onasus a Life by

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Speaker 1: Donald Spotto, Grace and Power by Sally Biddell Smith, and

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Speaker 1: of course articles from History dot Com, Biography dot Com,

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Speaker 1: and Vanity Fair. Are you sitting comfortably good?

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Speaker 2: Then let's begin.

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Speaker 1: Jacqueline Lee Bouvier was born on the twenty eighth of

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Speaker 1: July nineteen twenty nine, in Southampton, New York, to Wall

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Speaker 1: Street stockbroker John Vernu Bouvier the third, also known as

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Speaker 1: black Jack, and socialite Janet Norton Lee. Now you'd be

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Speaker 1: forgiven for thinking she was very French, of French descent,

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Speaker 1: instilled in both of her daughters was to marry well

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Speaker 1: these girls. So yeah, Jackie is born in nineteen twenty nine.

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Speaker 1: her sister Caroline is born. The petite Bouviers would spend

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Speaker 2: And he favors her over Caroline. He does.

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Speaker 1: He loves both his girls, but he prefers Jackie. He

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Speaker 2: That is a dig move.

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Speaker 1: But Jackie is also really close to like her father's

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Speaker 1: Equestrian writing, sporty stuff, and she's winning medals and trophies.

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Speaker 1: She's got taken ballet lessons, and she is learning languages.

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Speaker 1: She's got languages coming up the wazoo. She's learning like Italian, Spanish,

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Speaker 1: And this is going to be surprising for some of you,

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Speaker 1: whole shabbang, you know, And the headteacher's like, she's got

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Speaker 1: all these great qualities and she's got all this good stuff,

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Speaker 1: and cream. Their parents' marriage and relationship was strained, to

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Speaker 1: Blackjack black Jack booviy.

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Speaker 1: Resemblance to Clark Gable, one of the heart throwed movie

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Speaker 1: exactly coming up Millhouse for black Jack because he had

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Speaker 1: I don't think the marriage would have been as straightened. See,

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Speaker 1: black Jack Bouvier.

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Speaker 2: Was a whore.

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Speaker 1: We could call him a womanizer, we could put some

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Speaker 1: So he was tickling his Todger up and down Manhattan,

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Speaker 1: Good thing that it has changed and is not you know,

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Speaker 1: we're not stuck in a horrific patriarchal hellscape where actions, thoughts,

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Speaker 1: and ways of being are being policed by men. AnyWho

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Speaker 1: sleeping around, droning his sorrows and having no money, there

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Speaker 1: was a line, and for Janet jack Bouvier had crossed it,

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Speaker 1: and probably more than once. So they split when Jackie

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Speaker 1: another four years. It probably just took that long to

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Speaker 1: think this is one of the reasons why Jackie was

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Speaker 1: the separation and then the divorce, that's really hard on her.

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Speaker 1: So they had split in nineteen thirty six, and then

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Speaker 1: they had tried to reconcile in nineteen thirty seven but

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Speaker 1: nineteen forty. The very next year, the US joins World

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Speaker 1: War Two. White jobviously is not a super fun time

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Speaker 1: for anybody, though was somehow through all of this. In

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Speaker 1: the early forties, Jackie's mom marriages to meet Hue d Ouchincloss,

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Speaker 1: an American millionaire and heir to like Stafford Oil. I

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Speaker 1: think He's also got like investments and a bunch of

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Speaker 1: other stuff.

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Speaker 2: He is well rich by.

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Speaker 1: The way, Janet dead as Janet does, which is marry

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Speaker 1: smartly at least this time. So although like her previous

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Speaker 1: she comes back from the UK and their engagement is

431
00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:40,840
Speaker 1: announced on the twenty fifth of June, nineteen fifty three,

432
00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:44,000
Speaker 1: because that's I mean, I think some people in like

433
00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:47,440
Speaker 1: society still do that now. They do like an engagement announcement,

434
00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:50,880
Speaker 1: but yeah, that was very much what they did back then.

435
00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:53,600
Speaker 1: And something that may have spurred on her choice to

436
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:57,000
Speaker 1: accept the proposal was the fact that her sister, her

437
00:27:57,080 --> 00:28:01,280
Speaker 1: younger sister, got married in April of that year. And

438
00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:06,359
Speaker 1: it's kind of weird because younger sisters, especially at that time,

439
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:10,119
Speaker 1: were definitely not supposed to get married before their older

440
00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:14,280
Speaker 1: sisters because it's kind of seemed like an insult.

441
00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:14,800
Speaker 2: Like a slap in the face.

442
00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:21,119
Speaker 1: So it really sort of pushed Jacket into being the

443
00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:23,080
Speaker 1: sort of like the spinster of the Old maid a

444
00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:25,960
Speaker 1: wee bit, you know. So they get married on the

445
00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:28,920
Speaker 1: twelfth of September nineteen fifty three, which is like three

446
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:31,919
Speaker 1: months after their engagement announcement, and they actually have a

447
00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:35,200
Speaker 1: bitysode or an episode about the wedding. I don't know

448
00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:38,400
Speaker 1: if it's here or if it's on the Patreon, but

449
00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:41,400
Speaker 1: it goes on the details about like the wedding and

450
00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:45,920
Speaker 1: the scratches on his face and her fucking dress because

451
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:50,200
Speaker 1: it is absolutely fucking madness, right, So her dress is

452
00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:55,560
Speaker 1: designed by Anlo who is a black coutilier, and because

453
00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:58,880
Speaker 1: of her skin color, like so many people wrote her

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00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:02,720
Speaker 1: out of like the story of the wedding, like only

455
00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:04,640
Speaker 1: one person, I don't know if it was Vanity Fair

456
00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:09,479
Speaker 1: of Vogue, but only one article published her name. And

457
00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:13,680
Speaker 1: and though she was consistently making gowns for the elite,

458
00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:17,280
Speaker 1: so she was making clothes for like the rocker Fellers

459
00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:22,240
Speaker 1: and the Roosevelts and the DuPont and she was always

460
00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:25,800
Speaker 1: like the big name, or not the big name, but

461
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:29,960
Speaker 1: the big person who would make these itrams because she

462
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:34,240
Speaker 1: would make international like debutante gowns and everything. She was

463
00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:37,959
Speaker 1: the cream of the fucking crop. But again, because she

464
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:43,080
Speaker 1: was African American, people thought they could treat her in

465
00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:47,080
Speaker 1: a less than respectful manner. So like her and Jackie

466
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:52,920
Speaker 1: Kennedy didn't actually get on initially because well, Jackie wanted

467
00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:57,040
Speaker 1: a style that was more simple, sleek and French. And

468
00:29:57,320 --> 00:30:01,920
Speaker 1: for the Kennedys, because it is JFK's dad that really

469
00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:05,120
Speaker 1: took the rains on the whole wedding thing was that

470
00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:08,280
Speaker 1: he wanted this very like detailed, this very kind of

471
00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:12,400
Speaker 1: for what Jackie felt was ostentatious, this very big gown

472
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:15,680
Speaker 1: because he had invited like press and everybody. It was

473
00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:20,280
Speaker 1: like the event of the season. It was like the

474
00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:23,400
Speaker 1: big society wedding because they were you know, they were

475
00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:25,640
Speaker 1: you know, big families, lots of money.

476
00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:28,480
Speaker 2: It was of good stock, good stroke.

477
00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:33,680
Speaker 1: So and of course the head Kennedy wants here in

478
00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:39,240
Speaker 1: this fucking gown. So ten days before the wedding, disaster strikes.

479
00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:44,200
Speaker 1: This pipe bursts in a low studio and it destroys.

480
00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:49,960
Speaker 1: It just fucking just ruins the original wedding dress, along

481
00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:55,200
Speaker 1: with nine out of the fifteen bridesmaids dresses. So a

482
00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:59,600
Speaker 1: fuck toner shit is just ruined. So the wedding dress

483
00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:03,560
Speaker 1: alone had taken two months to make and it had

484
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:08,360
Speaker 1: like fifty yards of tafata silk tafata. So like Low

485
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:13,000
Speaker 1: and her team then had to make remake this really

486
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:18,000
Speaker 1: intricate gown in ten days, along with all the bridesmaid's

487
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:20,520
Speaker 1: gowns too, like they had to remake everything.

488
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:23,360
Speaker 2: They did it. They absolutely did.

489
00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:26,960
Speaker 1: It, and the crisis was averted. But like the best

490
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:29,640
Speaker 1: part of the story for me is that she showed

491
00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:32,200
Speaker 1: up with the gowns and they were like going the

492
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:35,480
Speaker 1: back entrance, and Low tells them if she is not

493
00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:38,880
Speaker 1: walking through that front door, then neither are her dresses,

494
00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:42,440
Speaker 1: which is just a power move of ug and Liver.

495
00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:46,320
Speaker 1: So Jackie does wear the iconic, the now iconic and

496
00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:51,240
Speaker 1: low gown for her wedding, and due to her father's

497
00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:54,040
Speaker 1: you know, love of the bottle, it ends up being

498
00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:57,960
Speaker 1: her stepfather, uncle Hughdy, who gives her away at the wedding.

499
00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:02,080
Speaker 1: So her and John they get married at the Saint

500
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:05,600
Speaker 1: Mary's Church in Newport and Rhode Island, and there's like

501
00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:07,960
Speaker 1: twelve hundred people there.

502
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:09,480
Speaker 2: It's fucking massive.

503
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:12,880
Speaker 1: So they end up having the ceremony there, and then

504
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:16,080
Speaker 1: they go back to Hammersmith Farm, owned by Uncle Jury,

505
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:20,200
Speaker 1: and they have the reception there. And the very next

506
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:23,239
Speaker 1: day the Kennedys leave for their honeymoon and they go

507
00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:27,280
Speaker 1: to Vak and Acapulco, Go and look go down in

508
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:32,360
Speaker 1: Acapulco in Mexico. That was not the melody of that song.

509
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:35,600
Speaker 1: I could not remember it. But we're just gonna move on.

510
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:39,840
Speaker 1: So when they return from their honeymoon, they move on

511
00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:42,200
Speaker 1: to a house in heckry Hell in Virginia, which is

512
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:43,760
Speaker 1: just in like the suburbs.

513
00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:45,680
Speaker 2: Of DC, so they're there.

514
00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:48,080
Speaker 1: So the first couple of years of their marriage are

515
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:52,760
Speaker 1: pretty tough because JFK he has Addison's disease and this

516
00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:57,120
Speaker 1: really just exacerbates this backendry he has. So he ends

517
00:32:57,200 --> 00:33:01,440
Speaker 1: up going for the surgery, the spino surgery, which almost

518
00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:07,480
Speaker 1: kills him, like it is fucking atrocious, and it's basically

519
00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:11,520
Speaker 1: there to make his back pain not as bad. And

520
00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:15,680
Speaker 1: that was in nineteen fifty four. The following year, Jackie

521
00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:19,680
Speaker 1: suffers a miscarriage, and in nineteen fifty six their daughter

522
00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:23,440
Speaker 1: Arabella is stillborn. They end up selling the Hickory Holl

523
00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:26,880
Speaker 1: House to Robert Kennedy and his wife Ethel because they

524
00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:28,760
Speaker 1: want a family to have the home.

525
00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:30,800
Speaker 2: So they end up getting.

526
00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:35,000
Speaker 1: A house in Georgetown, and then another one in Boston

527
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:39,440
Speaker 1: an apartment in Boston sorry, and then in nineteen fifty

528
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:43,800
Speaker 1: seven their rainbow baby, Caroline Kennedy is born. And when

529
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:48,040
Speaker 1: Caroline is born, JFK is actually campaigning. He's trying to

530
00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:51,480
Speaker 1: get reelected for the Senate, so Jackie is actually with him.

531
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:55,239
Speaker 1: Because they had been separated here and there throughout the

532
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:58,400
Speaker 1: first five years of their marriage, they want to try

533
00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:02,880
Speaker 1: and stay close together, especially considering that you know she

534
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:07,400
Speaker 1: was in the family. Wait, Jackie just being there becomes

535
00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:10,880
Speaker 1: this sort of symbol, and it did not go unnoticed

536
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:16,160
Speaker 1: that whenever Jackie was with JFK, the crowds were always bigger,

537
00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:19,759
Speaker 1: sometimes even double the amount than usual. So her in

538
00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:22,160
Speaker 1: law has actually said that she was not a natural

539
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:26,799
Speaker 1: born campaigner because she was shy. And I don't think

540
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:31,200
Speaker 1: she was shy as such, is that she was keen eyed.

541
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:34,200
Speaker 1: I think she was very observant and she was just

542
00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:38,240
Speaker 1: taking in the situation. And I think her voice didn't

543
00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:41,279
Speaker 1: help her because it gave that perception of just sort

544
00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:46,560
Speaker 1: of more shyness really, because she had a pretty wispy voice,

545
00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:50,640
Speaker 1: very similar to like Marlon Monroe, but probably a little

546
00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:54,240
Speaker 1: bit more articulate because of just how she was raised,

547
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:56,600
Speaker 1: like probably had elocution lessons and shit.

548
00:34:57,239 --> 00:34:59,040
Speaker 2: So it's kind of like that.

549
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:05,239
Speaker 1: But she was very, very astute. So in nineteen fifty nine,

550
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:08,480
Speaker 1: when he is like visiting like how many states, like

551
00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:13,000
Speaker 1: fourteen states, Jackie is on the campaign trail with them,

552
00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:15,839
Speaker 1: and like she leaves every now and again to like

553
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:18,640
Speaker 1: go spend time with their daughter and then joins him

554
00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:21,120
Speaker 1: again on the campaign trail. And because she knew he

555
00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:23,959
Speaker 1: was going to start a presidential campaign the following year,

556
00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:27,960
Speaker 1: she was already like fine tuning his wardrobe. She was

557
00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:34,080
Speaker 1: just working it and making everything just so. In January

558
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:38,560
Speaker 1: nineteen sixty, JFK announces that he's running for president, and

559
00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:42,680
Speaker 1: then it turns out Jackie's pregnant. So for a load

560
00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:46,239
Speaker 1: of the campaign trail, she doesn't go with him, like

561
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:49,919
Speaker 1: it's just not happening, because she's already had like one

562
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:53,360
Speaker 1: still birth and one miscarriage. She doesn't want to risk it.

563
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:57,680
Speaker 1: But what she does do is write this column called

564
00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:02,680
Speaker 1: campaign Wife. She's going interviews, she's answering questions, she's doing

565
00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:06,800
Speaker 1: all this stuff like she's promoting him from the home turf.

566
00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:11,600
Speaker 1: And even though she's not really involved physically in the

567
00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:15,840
Speaker 1: campaign as much as she would like to, because she

568
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:18,400
Speaker 1: was there like in the very early stages of the pregnancy,

569
00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:21,080
Speaker 1: but then as it progressed, it was very clear that

570
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:24,440
Speaker 1: it was high risk, so she used her talents elsewhere.

571
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:27,279
Speaker 1: But yet, even though she's not physically all with him,

572
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:30,360
Speaker 1: for like the majority of this campaign, she is constantly

573
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:34,480
Speaker 1: in magazine. She's constantly named as like best Dressed. But

574
00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:38,760
Speaker 1: on the other side of it, she's being attacked because

575
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:44,320
Speaker 1: of she prefers like European designers, especially French, so because

576
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:49,640
Speaker 1: she's not wearing American fashions by American designers. Along with

577
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:52,480
Speaker 1: the fact that how much she spends on her wardrobe

578
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:55,960
Speaker 1: gets brought up quite a lot. She just ends up

579
00:36:56,080 --> 00:37:00,560
Speaker 1: avoiding it all together, like she doesn't discuss like her

580
00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:03,359
Speaker 1: clothes or where she gets them or how much they cost,

581
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:06,319
Speaker 1: but she'll talk about her husband's campaign and all the

582
00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:10,359
Speaker 1: good work he's doing, so on and so forth. In September,

583
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:14,480
Speaker 1: there's the first televised presidential debate and Jackie is watching

584
00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:17,360
Speaker 1: it at home because she's pregnant, she ain't going anywhere.

585
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:20,080
Speaker 1: And as she's watching it, she decides that he needs

586
00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:22,799
Speaker 1: new speech writers, he needs new aids, like he needs

587
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:25,480
Speaker 1: to up his game for the October.

588
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:27,480
Speaker 2: Debates and will it worked.

589
00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:31,319
Speaker 1: Because on the eighth of November nineteen sixty John F.

590
00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:34,759
Speaker 1: Kennedy gets elected to the White House. He is now

591
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:40,280
Speaker 1: the President of the United States, making Jacqueline Bouvier Kennedy

592
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:45,360
Speaker 1: the first lady Termly she really didn't like because she

593
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:47,959
Speaker 1: said it was like a horse name. It's what you'd

594
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:50,560
Speaker 1: name a horse. And there she gives her sleddy giving

595
00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:54,719
Speaker 1: over the pouset. You know what, she's not wrong, I

596
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:58,800
Speaker 1: can hear it. So JFK is elected and later that month,

597
00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:04,000
Speaker 1: Jackie Ken gives birth to the couple's first son, John F.

598
00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:08,920
Speaker 1: Kennedy Junior, and in January nineteen sixty one, JFK is

599
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:12,680
Speaker 1: officially sworn in as the President of the United States.

600
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:16,319
Speaker 1: And now Jackie has definitely thrown into like the superstardom

601
00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:20,520
Speaker 1: of stylet con and she is just constantly being watched

602
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:22,760
Speaker 1: with what she's going to wear. She becomes a big

603
00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:27,920
Speaker 1: influence on fashion and style, but she's actually not the

604
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:32,719
Speaker 1: most fashionable person in her family, her sister Lee. She

605
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:35,480
Speaker 1: ends up sneaking gowns into the White House for her

606
00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:39,240
Speaker 1: sister because she's bringing stuff from like Italy and France

607
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:43,719
Speaker 1: and Germany, and the White House just isn't really keen

608
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 1: on this. They want her to be like American dressed,

609
00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:49,960
Speaker 1: but she's like sneaking the shit into her and Jackie,

610
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:52,920
Speaker 1: apart from you know, dressing, fabulously has to find something

611
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:55,400
Speaker 1: to do when she's in the White House, but like

612
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:58,920
Speaker 1: a lot of it isn't exactly livable, so she ends

613
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:01,960
Speaker 1: up reworking it to be more of a living space.

614
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:05,120
Speaker 1: Like she even puts a school in I think on

615
00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:07,880
Speaker 1: is it the third floor or something. She creates a

616
00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:10,959
Speaker 1: school for her kids, and like it was ten kids

617
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:14,680
Speaker 1: in total, so I'm assuming children of people who work

618
00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:17,560
Speaker 1: in the White House probably, so the kids get at

619
00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:22,359
Speaker 1: least some social interaction. But like, she starts this restoration

620
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:27,120
Speaker 1: of the White House, so she's finding historical pieces that

621
00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:31,239
Speaker 1: had been removed and she's like restoring other areas and

622
00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:36,799
Speaker 1: then CBS they do this, they do this documentary. And

623
00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:40,319
Speaker 1: because of this documentary about her renovating and bringing back

624
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:44,360
Speaker 1: the White House to its former glory, because she said

625
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:48,600
Speaker 1: anything that was there historically had a purpose, so she

626
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:52,160
Speaker 1: was planning on bringing it back. So she wins an

627
00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:56,080
Speaker 1: honorary Emmy or she's given an honorary Emmy for this

628
00:39:56,200 --> 00:40:04,879
Speaker 1: documentary nineteen sixty two. It comes out actually, but she's

629
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:08,319
Speaker 1: redoing this whole space and she's trying to make it

630
00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:11,680
Speaker 1: like a calming environment because she wants to be more

631
00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:15,680
Speaker 1: like a home, you know, because the stress being president

632
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:18,400
Speaker 1: ain't fun and she wanted him to have like a

633
00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:23,000
Speaker 1: nice home life. And what she found very difficult was

634
00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:25,640
Speaker 1: the fact that because she wasn't up to her elbows

635
00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:30,040
Speaker 1: and flower and she wasn't she wasn't a housewife that

636
00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:33,560
Speaker 1: she was perceived in like a negative.

637
00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:34,160
Speaker 2: Way for quite a bit.

638
00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:39,600
Speaker 1: So when she's getting things ready for JFK, like she

639
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:42,600
Speaker 1: used to read like the CIA reports and stuff that

640
00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:46,399
Speaker 1: was coming in, but then it got to the point

641
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:51,480
Speaker 1: where she had to stop because she was terrified. She

642
00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:55,160
Speaker 1: was like, if she had to read any more, like

643
00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:57,920
Speaker 1: she wouldn't sleep because of all the threats and the

644
00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:01,520
Speaker 1: possibility of threats and everything dodgy that could be happening.

645
00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:05,440
Speaker 1: So she just ended up not reading those memos anymore,

646
00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:09,719
Speaker 1: you know. So in nineteen sixty two, Jackie goes on

647
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:12,759
Speaker 1: this good will tour of India and Pakistan, the first

648
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:15,560
Speaker 1: Lady's good Will to of India and Pakistan, and she

649
00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:19,160
Speaker 1: brings her sister Lee, who incidentally had at this point

650
00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:23,720
Speaker 1: married a Polish prince and was now Princess Lee, which

651
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:27,399
Speaker 1: you know, good for her, good for her. The following year,

652
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:31,040
Speaker 1: Jackie's pregnant again. When Jackie was going on European tours

653
00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:34,880
Speaker 1: and whatnot with her husband, she was woming dignitaries because

654
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:37,799
Speaker 1: you know, she was fluent in many languages. She was

655
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:42,560
Speaker 1: unassuming but also you know, witty and intelligent. And when

656
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:45,239
Speaker 1: she's doing official tours on her own like this one,

657
00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:50,240
Speaker 1: the crowds are massive, Like you'd think they were waiting

658
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:53,640
Speaker 1: for like the Queen or the President himself, but they're

659
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:54,440
Speaker 1: there for her.

660
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:58,120
Speaker 2: Like she is such a massive, massive draw.

661
00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:01,240
Speaker 1: But yeah, back on home turf, back in the States,

662
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:04,840
Speaker 1: back in the White House, the first Lady, Jacqueline Kennedy,

663
00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:12,800
Speaker 1: she basically initiates initiates this bill because what was happening

664
00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:15,120
Speaker 1: is like former presidents who were in the White House

665
00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:17,040
Speaker 1: when they left, they would just take something they liked

666
00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:21,560
Speaker 1: with them, And she was like, that's not cool. Everything

667
00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:23,960
Speaker 1: that's supposed to be in the White House should be

668
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:28,080
Speaker 1: in the white House. So she wants to like have

669
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:32,080
Speaker 1: everything in the White House become property of the Smithsonian

670
00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:36,160
Speaker 1: Institution and not like you can't just take it when you.

671
00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:36,960
Speaker 2: Go, mate, you know.

672
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:43,200
Speaker 1: So she founds the White House Historical Association, the Committee

673
00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:46,879
Speaker 1: for the Preservation of the White House. She also makes

674
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:51,239
Speaker 1: the position of the Curator of the White House, the

675
00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:55,120
Speaker 1: White House Endowment Trust, and the White House Acquisition Trust,

676
00:42:56,480 --> 00:43:00,160
Speaker 1: and she ends up like sourcing and finding donors for

677
00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:04,200
Speaker 1: like all of these historical artifacts for them to be

678
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:10,560
Speaker 1: brought back to the White House, you know. And it's

679
00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:13,080
Speaker 1: not just the White House itself that she really takes

680
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:20,120
Speaker 1: hold of, in control of. She becomes very in control

681
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:25,719
Speaker 1: of how she and her family are presented. So she

682
00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:29,600
Speaker 1: was very very particular about when and where her children

683
00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:34,240
Speaker 1: were going to be like photographed, and she rarely made

684
00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:39,040
Speaker 1: any sort of public statements that she was very much reserved.

685
00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:43,880
Speaker 1: In nineteen sixty three, Jackie announces she's pregnant again. So

686
00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:47,920
Speaker 1: after the birth of John F. Kennedy Junior, she had

687
00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:50,799
Speaker 1: to recuperate I think for like two months. It was

688
00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:53,640
Speaker 1: a great deal of time for her to get to

689
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:58,160
Speaker 1: get back in sort of decent health. So she's very

690
00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:01,759
Speaker 1: much being careful this time out, and she goes kok

691
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:05,160
Speaker 1: anny on most of her you know, first Lady Jerry's

692
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:08,080
Speaker 1: meaning she's going to stay home and rest and not

693
00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:11,319
Speaker 1: join her husband on his European tour again. In a

694
00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:15,279
Speaker 1: crazy random happenstance, her sister Lee is having a very

695
00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:23,080
Speaker 1: open affair with Aristotle Onassis, whom the Kennedys fucking despise,

696
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:27,439
Speaker 1: Like Bobby Kennedy hates him, JFK hates him and they're

697
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:30,160
Speaker 1: convinced he's only seeing Lee because he wants to weasele

698
00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:33,960
Speaker 1: his way into the White House. So when JFK has

699
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:38,680
Speaker 1: to go to Europe, it is suggested that Lee accompanies him.

700
00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:43,200
Speaker 1: His sister in law accompanies him on this tour to

701
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:48,040
Speaker 1: accompany him to the UK, Italy, Germany and Ireland because

702
00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:50,360
Speaker 1: like Jackie, she's like seven months pregnant at this point,

703
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:53,959
Speaker 1: and also they want to get Lei the fuck away

704
00:44:53,960 --> 00:45:00,960
Speaker 1: from on Asses and so Lee very dutifully joins joins

705
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:03,719
Speaker 1: her brother in law. Unfortunately for them, their little plan

706
00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:07,200
Speaker 1: didn't work because the moment that tour was over, Lee

707
00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:10,800
Speaker 1: fucked off back to on Nassis and things are about

708
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:13,759
Speaker 1: to get bad to worse for the Kennedy family. On

709
00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:18,320
Speaker 1: the seventh of August nineteen sixty three, Patrick Bouvie Kennedy

710
00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:23,120
Speaker 1: is born five weeks early and his lungs are underdeveloped,

711
00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:26,200
Speaker 1: and so he has rushed to the Boston Children's Hospital.

712
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:30,640
Speaker 1: Jackie is being kept at an air base because she's

713
00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:34,719
Speaker 1: had to have a c section, and JFK goes to

714
00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:41,440
Speaker 1: the hospital with the baby. Unfortunately, two days later, baby

715
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:47,239
Speaker 1: Patrick dies. Unsurprisingly, Jackie is grieving and upset, and there

716
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:50,880
Speaker 1: are no words to convey the pain that she's feeling,

717
00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:53,960
Speaker 1: and she does not want to have to go back

718
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:56,799
Speaker 1: to Washington. She can't face it. She just doesn't want

719
00:45:56,840 --> 00:45:59,600
Speaker 1: to have to go through that. And so her sister

720
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:05,520
Speaker 1: asks Onnasas to invite Jackie onto his fucking million dollar yacht,

721
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:10,000
Speaker 1: and JFK literally gets down on one knee and begs

722
00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:13,480
Speaker 1: Jackie not to go because he's really concerned about how

723
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:17,400
Speaker 1: this is gonna look, you know, But Jackie needs.

724
00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:18,440
Speaker 2: To get out of there. She has to go.

725
00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:22,279
Speaker 1: So she goes to the yacht, and for the most part,

726
00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:27,160
Speaker 1: she's spending time with her sister. Like Onasis is generally

727
00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:31,680
Speaker 1: on his in as we study in his business nook,

728
00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:36,720
Speaker 1: doing work or whatever very rich people do, and Jackie

729
00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:40,760
Speaker 1: is spending just a lot of time with her sister recuperating.

730
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:43,760
Speaker 1: And after a month away spending time with her sister

731
00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:47,960
Speaker 1: in Europe, she returns back to the States. In November

732
00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:51,160
Speaker 1: nineteen sixty three, the Kennedys are doing a tour of

733
00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:55,880
Speaker 1: Texas and on the twenty second of November nineteen sixty three,

734
00:46:56,560 --> 00:47:00,960
Speaker 1: Jackie and her husband are in an open top limo

735
00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:04,600
Speaker 1: traveling through Elm Street in.

736
00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:05,520
Speaker 2: Dallas, Texas.

737
00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:10,560
Speaker 1: They're smiling, waving. She's in her pink suit and pillbox hat,

738
00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:15,440
Speaker 1: and everything just seems to be going like every other campaign,

739
00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:20,440
Speaker 1: every other tour. JFK and the governor are shot and

740
00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:25,719
Speaker 1: Jackie's beautiful pink suit was now splattered with her husband's brains.

741
00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:29,600
Speaker 1: So JFK is shot at twelve thirty and at one

742
00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:35,080
Speaker 1: pm he is announcetead. So at twenty to three that day,

743
00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:38,800
Speaker 1: Jackie is a board Air Force one when Lyndon Johnson

744
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:41,920
Speaker 1: is sworn in as president, and she's still in the

745
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:47,960
Speaker 1: fucking suit. Instead of removing the bloodstained, brain splattered pink suit,

746
00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:50,960
Speaker 1: she thought, fuck this for a game of soldiers. I

747
00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:54,719
Speaker 1: want them to see what they did, which is what

748
00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:58,920
Speaker 1: she called JFK. And she actually regretted washing the blood

749
00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:03,239
Speaker 1: from her face because she really wanted everyone to see

750
00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:07,680
Speaker 1: the impact of their actions. So three days later, Jfka's

751
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:10,640
Speaker 1: laid to rest and Bobby wants there to be an

752
00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:15,160
Speaker 1: open casket, but Jackie demands a closed one because you know,

753
00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:20,200
Speaker 1: his head was blown like there's just bits of skull missing,

754
00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:24,919
Speaker 1: so she wanted it closed, and she got her way

755
00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:28,440
Speaker 1: so Jackie and the kids they get two weeks grace

756
00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:30,480
Speaker 1: of living in the White House. They get two extra

757
00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:33,200
Speaker 1: weeks and then they're supposed to find somewhere else to

758
00:48:33,239 --> 00:48:37,680
Speaker 1: live because London B. Johnson and Ladybird they have to

759
00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:42,000
Speaker 1: move in because he's the new president. Remember, Jackie is

760
00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:46,879
Speaker 1: nothing if not astute. So one week after her husband's assassination,

761
00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:51,320
Speaker 1: she's meeting with a biographer from like Vanity Fair magazine

762
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:56,120
Speaker 1: and she cements the idea of the Kennedy Day administration

763
00:48:56,360 --> 00:49:00,759
Speaker 1: as camelot. She's like, they'll never be an their camelot,

764
00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:05,560
Speaker 1: and she creates this sort of or initiates at least

765
00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:10,239
Speaker 1: the myth, because again she's not just a hat rack.

766
00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:13,520
Speaker 1: So on the sixth of December, Jackie and the kids

767
00:49:13,600 --> 00:49:18,200
Speaker 1: they move into a house in Georgetown after declining an

768
00:49:18,239 --> 00:49:21,319
Speaker 1: offer by President Johnson to be the French ambassador for

769
00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:23,759
Speaker 1: the White House. And of course she just wants to

770
00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:26,240
Speaker 1: get the ball rolling again, so she's getting dumb stuff

771
00:49:26,360 --> 00:49:32,200
Speaker 1: organized to build a library in honor of JFK. And

772
00:49:32,280 --> 00:49:35,520
Speaker 1: in January she does this televised appearance to basically thank

773
00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:38,520
Speaker 1: the public for, you know, all of their support and

774
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:42,000
Speaker 1: all of their will wishes everything like that. So Jackie

775
00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:44,360
Speaker 1: ends up buying a house in Georgetown for her and

776
00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:47,160
Speaker 1: the kids to live in, but it gets so much

777
00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:50,440
Speaker 1: media attention that she ends up just moving back to

778
00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:55,120
Speaker 1: New York. So Jackie at this point has undiagnosed PTSD

779
00:49:55,800 --> 00:49:58,440
Speaker 1: and she's dealing with a lot of stuff, and she

780
00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:02,360
Speaker 1: becomes incredibly reliant on and her brother in law Robert Kennedy,

781
00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:05,160
Speaker 1: and Bobby is there for her and his niece and

782
00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:08,320
Speaker 1: nephew until his own family and you know, being the

783
00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:10,959
Speaker 1: Attorney General like really take its toll and he has

784
00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:15,320
Speaker 1: to just focus his energy back there. So when Bobby

785
00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:19,839
Speaker 1: decides to run for president himself, Jackie fully supported him,

786
00:50:19,840 --> 00:50:21,560
Speaker 1: like she was worried something was going to happen to

787
00:50:21,640 --> 00:50:23,480
Speaker 1: him because she felt there was like so much hatred

788
00:50:23,520 --> 00:50:26,160
Speaker 1: in the world, and he was like, well maybe, but

789
00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:28,719
Speaker 1: maybe I can do something good about it. So she's

790
00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:32,600
Speaker 1: very happy for him, but she's worried, and then her

791
00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:36,359
Speaker 1: worst fears are realized when he is assassinated at his

792
00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:37,280
Speaker 1: own party.

793
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:40,640
Speaker 2: But after Bobby's death, like she sleeps back.

794
00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:45,360
Speaker 1: Into a depression again, and she is getting paranoid because

795
00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:48,200
Speaker 1: she's worried. If you know, they're killing Kennedy's then her

796
00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:52,359
Speaker 1: children are next, and that's what she's worried about. So

797
00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:56,239
Speaker 1: being the widow of a president, she has certain allowances,

798
00:50:56,280 --> 00:51:00,680
Speaker 1: like she has Secret Service as her security, and she

799
00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:04,719
Speaker 1: is very much seen as you know, JFK's widow, and

800
00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:08,920
Speaker 1: she is expected by the public to stay JFK's widow.

801
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:12,840
Speaker 1: She decides she doesn't want to do that. She feels

802
00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:14,400
Speaker 1: like she has to get out of the country, and

803
00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:17,879
Speaker 1: so she goes to Europe. But before she buggers off

804
00:51:17,880 --> 00:51:23,239
Speaker 1: to Europe, she's been dating this architect and things are

805
00:51:23,239 --> 00:51:27,840
Speaker 1: going well, except at one point he realizes he cannot

806
00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:30,520
Speaker 1: keep up with her lifestyle, and so he comes clean

807
00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:33,960
Speaker 1: and he's like, Jackie, I'm six hundred and fifty thousand

808
00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:38,000
Speaker 1: dollars in debt, and she's like, don't worry, we'll work

809
00:51:38,040 --> 00:51:43,320
Speaker 1: it out, she says with a completely unemotional face. And

810
00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:46,000
Speaker 1: at that point she comes to the realization that this

811
00:51:46,120 --> 00:51:48,520
Speaker 1: isn't going to work with him because he cannot support her,

812
00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:53,120
Speaker 1: and so she calls it off and buggers off to Europe.

813
00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:59,040
Speaker 1: Now what happens is her sister Lee doesn't hear from her,

814
00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:04,279
Speaker 1: you know how, also doesn't hear from her boyfriend, Aristotle Onassis,

815
00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:08,799
Speaker 1: so she gets radio silence from these two people. So

816
00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:14,799
Speaker 1: Jackie and Aristotle on Nassis they get engaged secretly, and

817
00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:20,359
Speaker 1: Jackie has absolutely zero intention of telling her sister. Who

818
00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:25,160
Speaker 1: does tell her though, is Onassis, Like he contacts her

819
00:52:25,560 --> 00:52:29,640
Speaker 1: and he begs her to come to the wedding, you know,

820
00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:34,440
Speaker 1: for her support, and you know what, Leah actually shows up.

821
00:52:35,080 --> 00:52:38,919
Speaker 1: She comes to the wedding that is dysfunctional as fuck.

822
00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:42,439
Speaker 1: And on the twentieth of October in nineteen sixty eight,

823
00:52:43,239 --> 00:52:50,520
Speaker 1: Jackie married Aristotle Onasis on his private Greek island Scorpios.

824
00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:54,880
Speaker 1: And after she gets married, she takes the name Jacqueline Onassis,

825
00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:58,080
Speaker 1: which really upset a lot of people. They were mad

826
00:52:58,120 --> 00:53:00,640
Speaker 1: she didn't keep just like the Jacqueline care Edy name,

827
00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:05,439
Speaker 1: and instead of being called Jacqueline Nassis for the most part,

828
00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:08,600
Speaker 1: she was just called Jackie. Oh. In fairness, they were

829
00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:12,280
Speaker 1: just really really mad that she was no longer America's widow,

830
00:53:12,520 --> 00:53:15,920
Speaker 1: right and because she'd moved on, they wanted her to

831
00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:18,600
Speaker 1: stay in like this perpetual state of grief, you know,

832
00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:23,839
Speaker 1: So she you know, she trades her legacy effectively as

833
00:53:24,040 --> 00:53:26,719
Speaker 1: the American widow so she loses the protection from the

834
00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:29,759
Speaker 1: US Secret Service, and she also loses her income from

835
00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:34,279
Speaker 1: the Kennedy Trust, so she ends up with like and

836
00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:39,000
Speaker 1: she basically organizes a dowry for herself. So she negotiates

837
00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:43,080
Speaker 1: it so that she gets three million dollars plus a

838
00:53:43,160 --> 00:53:46,600
Speaker 1: million for each of her children. On top of that,

839
00:53:47,120 --> 00:53:51,360
Speaker 1: she gets two hundred and thousand dollars per year for

840
00:53:51,520 --> 00:53:56,879
Speaker 1: her in the event of divorce or his death, so

841
00:53:57,280 --> 00:54:00,000
Speaker 1: no matter what happened, she was going to be secure.

842
00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:04,239
Speaker 1: So quite early on in their marriage, things are not

843
00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:09,960
Speaker 1: going great because he very much wanted to display, you know,

844
00:54:10,080 --> 00:54:13,279
Speaker 1: his wonderful wife, his trophy wife, towrs what you wanted

845
00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:16,600
Speaker 1: to do, and she would not be displayed like she

846
00:54:16,719 --> 00:54:18,600
Speaker 1: was there to be safe and to be you know,

847
00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:22,439
Speaker 1: looked after. Because he's not happy with things the way

848
00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:25,560
Speaker 1: things are going, he ends up visiting his former paramore,

849
00:54:26,320 --> 00:54:30,720
Speaker 1: this opera singer, the very one who he had actually

850
00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:35,680
Speaker 1: left to start dating Lee, Jacqueline's sister, and he arrives

851
00:54:35,719 --> 00:54:39,520
Speaker 1: at her flat and he strips naked after dinner, refuses

852
00:54:39,560 --> 00:54:42,960
Speaker 1: to leave, and she basically throws him out the apartment

853
00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:47,000
Speaker 1: and she starts shouting at him shame on you on

854
00:54:47,080 --> 00:54:50,880
Speaker 1: the anniversary of the death of your second wife's first husband,

855
00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:58,320
Speaker 1: like it's the second anniversary of JFK's assassination. Of all times,

856
00:54:58,360 --> 00:55:01,839
Speaker 1: to abandon your wife, that does seem like a bad one,

857
00:55:02,040 --> 00:55:04,520
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But it's not all bad,

858
00:55:04,600 --> 00:55:07,279
Speaker 1: because they have some good stuff going on. They have

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Speaker 1: like six different residencies, so they're in Manhattan, in New Jersey,

860
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Speaker 1: and Scorpios and Athens and of course like the yacht

861
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Speaker 1: oh in an apartment in Paris. And with all this

862
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Speaker 1: newfound wealth, this extra money, she really gets to set

863
00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:33,239
Speaker 1: up and champion, you know, restoration foundations. So throughout her

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00:55:33,280 --> 00:55:37,240
Speaker 1: marriage to Aristotle Nassis, she wants to ensure her children

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Speaker 1: still have a connection to the Kennedys.

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Speaker 2: So they're still visit.

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Speaker 1: In Ted and Ted's was in them, and they're still

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Speaker 1: connected through the uncle Ted. And she also very much

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Speaker 1: used Ted for her public appearances to still connect her

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Speaker 1: with the Kennedys. In nineteen seventy three, Aristotle's son dies

871
00:55:56,280 --> 00:56:00,920
Speaker 1: tragically in a plane crash which absolutely wrecked his father.

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Speaker 1: Aristotle Has health started to decline severely after the death

873
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Speaker 1: of his son, and in nineteen seventy five, he passes

874
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Speaker 1: away from respiratory failure, like at the age of sixty

875
00:56:15,200 --> 00:56:19,920
Speaker 1: nine in Paris, he's gone. And when he passes away, like,

876
00:56:20,239 --> 00:56:24,839
Speaker 1: Greece has some really strict rules regarding like finances and

877
00:56:24,840 --> 00:56:28,640
Speaker 1: inheritance from Greeks to non Greeks, so it was a

878
00:56:28,760 --> 00:56:34,359
Speaker 1: very limited amount that Jacqueline could could have inherited. And

879
00:56:34,680 --> 00:56:37,640
Speaker 1: for like two years, there's like legal wrangling going back

880
00:56:37,680 --> 00:56:44,040
Speaker 1: and forth, and she eventually after an agreement with Aristotle's daughter,

881
00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:50,359
Speaker 1: she receives twenty six million dollars on the agreement that

882
00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:53,080
Speaker 1: she waives all rights to like every other part of

883
00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:56,120
Speaker 1: like the Onassis estate, and she's like, yeah, let's fine,

884
00:56:56,200 --> 00:56:58,279
Speaker 1: I'll take my twenty six million and go thanks by.

885
00:56:59,120 --> 00:57:02,520
Speaker 1: But after her second husband's death in seventy five, she

886
00:57:02,680 --> 00:57:05,640
Speaker 1: heads back to the States. So she's sort of floating

887
00:57:05,680 --> 00:57:11,439
Speaker 1: between like Manhattan, Martha's Vineyard, the Kennedy Compound, and she's

888
00:57:11,480 --> 00:57:14,040
Speaker 1: just kind of going between these and she ends up

889
00:57:14,520 --> 00:57:20,120
Speaker 1: getting a job as an editor at Viking Press, and

890
00:57:20,200 --> 00:57:23,200
Speaker 1: she's there for about two years. The reason that she

891
00:57:23,280 --> 00:57:27,040
Speaker 1: resigns from Viking Press is because it's assumed that she's

892
00:57:27,080 --> 00:57:31,800
Speaker 1: involved with approving Jeffrey Archer's book Shall We Tell the President,

893
00:57:32,640 --> 00:57:35,240
Speaker 1: which involves like a fictional future with a Kennedy president

894
00:57:35,280 --> 00:57:40,840
Speaker 1: who's talking about his own attempted assassination. And she wasn't

895
00:57:40,840 --> 00:57:43,400
Speaker 1: about that, so she just resigned and she ends up

896
00:57:43,440 --> 00:57:47,600
Speaker 1: getting a gig with Double Day as an associate editor.

897
00:57:48,200 --> 00:57:52,040
Speaker 1: So in nineteen seventy nine, Edward Kennedy known as Ted,

898
00:57:52,680 --> 00:57:56,280
Speaker 1: he announces he's running for president and Jackie is supporting

899
00:57:56,360 --> 00:57:59,200
Speaker 1: him and she's involved in the campaign and everything, but

900
00:57:59,320 --> 00:58:03,800
Speaker 1: it is unsuccessful. Then on the twentieth of October nineteen

901
00:58:03,840 --> 00:58:07,640
Speaker 1: seventy nine, the John F. Kennedy Library and Museum is

902
00:58:07,680 --> 00:58:11,280
Speaker 1: officially opened. So she had started working on the plant,

903
00:58:11,320 --> 00:58:14,240
Speaker 1: so that what in nineteen sixty three, and it's nineteen

904
00:58:14,280 --> 00:58:18,080
Speaker 1: seventy nine, so it took what was it, sixteen years

905
00:58:18,080 --> 00:58:20,720
Speaker 1: to make this happen. And while she's in New York,

906
00:58:21,040 --> 00:58:25,680
Speaker 1: she is heavily involved in like restoration and preservation. So

907
00:58:25,800 --> 00:58:29,600
Speaker 1: she leads this historic preservation campaign to basically save the

908
00:58:29,800 --> 00:58:34,360
Speaker 1: Grand Central Terminal from being demolished, and it's all about

909
00:58:34,400 --> 00:58:39,480
Speaker 1: renovating the structure. She also is involved in these massive

910
00:58:39,920 --> 00:58:45,720
Speaker 1: protests against skyscrapers at Columbus Circle, which would basically overshadow

911
00:58:45,880 --> 00:58:50,040
Speaker 1: Central Park, so that gets canceled. And all the while

912
00:58:50,080 --> 00:58:52,480
Speaker 1: that she's doing all of her good days and fixing

913
00:58:52,560 --> 00:58:56,200
Speaker 1: things and whatnot and stopping Chit being built, she is

914
00:58:56,240 --> 00:59:00,680
Speaker 1: being harassed by this fucking paparatzi. She has to get

915
00:59:00,680 --> 00:59:04,680
Speaker 1: a restraining order against him. So this really starts highlighting

916
00:59:05,440 --> 00:59:09,600
Speaker 1: what paparazzi are and what they're doing, and she kind

917
00:59:09,600 --> 00:59:12,680
Speaker 1: of like focuses a lens on that. But it's not

918
00:59:12,720 --> 00:59:15,280
Speaker 1: all doom and gloom for Jackie. And eighty two she

919
00:59:15,360 --> 00:59:20,040
Speaker 1: gets a promotion to the senior editor with Doubleday Publishing,

920
00:59:20,600 --> 00:59:25,600
Speaker 1: and she's there for twelve years, and during this time,

921
00:59:26,120 --> 00:59:29,120
Speaker 1: her daughter Caroline becomes the president of the John F.

922
00:59:29,240 --> 00:59:36,520
Speaker 1: Kennedy Library Foundation. Her mom dies from complications from Alzheimer's,

923
00:59:37,080 --> 00:59:41,160
Speaker 1: so Caroline becomes the president of the foundation in eighty seven.

924
00:59:42,040 --> 00:59:47,680
Speaker 1: Jackie's mom dies in eighty nine, and when the nineteen

925
00:59:47,760 --> 00:59:52,160
Speaker 1: nineties roll around, Jackie actually reaches out to the Clintons

926
00:59:52,760 --> 00:59:55,720
Speaker 1: in a way that she hadn't actually reached out to

927
00:59:55,720 --> 01:00:00,280
Speaker 1: any sort of Democratic candidates. And then a good unk

928
01:00:00,280 --> 01:00:04,080
Speaker 1: of time because Hillary is asking her advice on how

929
01:00:04,120 --> 01:00:07,520
Speaker 1: to raise a child in the White House, and Jackie's

930
01:00:07,600 --> 01:00:11,280
Speaker 1: just constantly giving her like tips and information and support,

931
01:00:12,360 --> 01:00:16,240
Speaker 1: and she's there and she's supporting Bill Clinton when he

932
01:00:17,080 --> 01:00:22,000
Speaker 1: you know, he's campaigning to become president. Then in nineteen

933
01:00:22,120 --> 01:00:25,520
Speaker 1: ninety three, but things start going downhill for Jackie in

934
01:00:25,640 --> 01:00:28,680
Speaker 1: ninety three when she's on a fox hunt.

935
01:00:29,480 --> 01:00:32,360
Speaker 2: That's right, a fox hunt in the nineties.

936
01:00:33,720 --> 01:00:37,960
Speaker 1: She's on a horse and she gets thrown from a horse. Naturally,

937
01:00:38,000 --> 01:00:40,440
Speaker 1: doctors want to look over check her, make sure everything's

938
01:00:40,480 --> 01:00:43,680
Speaker 1: like fine, she's not broken. But as they're examining her,

939
01:00:44,120 --> 01:00:47,680
Speaker 1: they find like a swollen lymph node. So yeah, they

940
01:00:47,680 --> 01:00:51,000
Speaker 1: discover the swollen lymph node in her groin and they

941
01:00:51,040 --> 01:00:54,400
Speaker 1: think it's just part of some infection. But then after

942
01:00:54,440 --> 01:00:59,800
Speaker 1: this like accident, like things start deteriorating, like six months

943
01:00:59,800 --> 01:01:03,440
Speaker 1: to the line, things are dodgy as fuck. They're finding

944
01:01:03,480 --> 01:01:07,200
Speaker 1: more lymph nodes, they're finding like she's got all these

945
01:01:07,200 --> 01:01:12,280
Speaker 1: other symptoms from like stomach aches and pains and all

946
01:01:12,320 --> 01:01:15,960
Speaker 1: this shit. And they do more tests and they discover

947
01:01:16,080 --> 01:01:18,880
Speaker 1: she has non Hodgkin lymphoma, which is.

948
01:01:19,520 --> 01:01:22,320
Speaker 2: Blood cancer for those who I don't know.

949
01:01:23,080 --> 01:01:29,200
Speaker 1: And she ends up having chemotherapy and she publicly announces

950
01:01:29,200 --> 01:01:33,200
Speaker 1: that she has cancer and like, and she's being like

951
01:01:33,280 --> 01:01:34,480
Speaker 1: very optimistic about it.

952
01:01:34,600 --> 01:01:37,000
Speaker 2: Like the initial prognosis is good.

953
01:01:37,120 --> 01:01:40,320
Speaker 1: Things are going all right because she's still working at

954
01:01:40,320 --> 01:01:44,600
Speaker 1: Double Day and everything. But then it becomes very clear

955
01:01:44,640 --> 01:01:47,920
Speaker 1: that the cancer has spread. It's in her spine and

956
01:01:47,960 --> 01:01:53,880
Speaker 1: it's in her brain, so it gets into her like liver,

957
01:01:54,200 --> 01:01:57,280
Speaker 1: and at that point they're just like it's terminal, Like

958
01:01:57,360 --> 01:02:03,720
Speaker 1: at this point, it's palliative care. So by May of

959
01:02:03,840 --> 01:02:08,520
Speaker 1: nineteen ninety four, like everything has to be put in place,

960
01:02:08,640 --> 01:02:10,720
Speaker 1: like she knows that she's going to be goings in

961
01:02:11,240 --> 01:02:14,520
Speaker 1: and of course she wants to be home. So on

962
01:02:14,600 --> 01:02:18,520
Speaker 1: the eighteenth of May nineteen ninety four, she is taken

963
01:02:18,600 --> 01:02:22,400
Speaker 1: home from the Cornell Medical Center at New York Hospital,

964
01:02:24,000 --> 01:02:30,280
Speaker 1: and on the nineteenth at ten fifteen pm, Jacqueline Lee

965
01:02:30,720 --> 01:02:38,120
Speaker 1: Bouvier Kenneday or Nassis passes away surrounded by friends and

966
01:02:38,240 --> 01:02:41,800
Speaker 1: her children, and her funeral takes place at the same

967
01:02:41,920 --> 01:02:46,000
Speaker 1: church that she was baptized and confirmed in, and then

968
01:02:46,200 --> 01:02:48,840
Speaker 1: her body is taken to Arlington Cemetery where she is

969
01:02:48,880 --> 01:02:53,480
Speaker 1: buried beside her husband and her deceased children. And that

970
01:02:54,120 --> 01:02:58,880
Speaker 1: is the story of Jackie Kennedy or the story of

971
01:02:58,960 --> 01:02:59,400
Speaker 1: Jackie O.

972
01:02:59,680 --> 01:03:00,920
Speaker 2: However you want to take it.

973
01:03:01,760 --> 01:03:05,760
Speaker 1: And wow, I have been recording for several hours. This

974
01:03:05,800 --> 01:03:07,919
Speaker 1: is gonna be a fun edit. It's fine, It's gonna

975
01:03:07,920 --> 01:03:11,640
Speaker 1: be fun. So if you liked my retailing of this story,

976
01:03:12,080 --> 01:03:15,360
Speaker 1: apologies for the voice, unless, of course, you actually like

977
01:03:15,480 --> 01:03:17,840
Speaker 1: my voice like this, you might prefer it. Room's to say.

978
01:03:18,680 --> 01:03:21,320
Speaker 1: If you liked it, please rate and review five stars.

979
01:03:21,880 --> 01:03:23,680
Speaker 1: Just give it the five stars and then you can

980
01:03:23,760 --> 01:03:26,240
Speaker 1: say whatever you want. You can insult me, you can

981
01:03:26,280 --> 01:03:29,040
Speaker 1: tell me your favorite type of pajamas. You can mention

982
01:03:29,120 --> 01:03:32,560
Speaker 1: bananas in a weird and not good way, or you know,

983
01:03:32,960 --> 01:03:35,000
Speaker 1: you can tell me who'd done it.

984
01:03:35,400 --> 01:03:37,360
Speaker 2: You can recommend me one that I should watch.

985
01:03:39,360 --> 01:03:43,200
Speaker 1: Well, I almost forgot. What did we learned today? Well,

986
01:03:43,240 --> 01:03:46,800
Speaker 1: we learned that some families are more dysfunctional than others,

987
01:03:47,600 --> 01:03:50,320
Speaker 1: that it used to be surprisingly easy to next stuff

988
01:03:50,320 --> 01:03:54,400
Speaker 1: from the White House, and that marrying up doesn't always

989
01:03:54,480 --> 01:03:55,720
Speaker 1: make you happy.

990
01:03:56,080 --> 01:03:56,960
Speaker 2: So don't forget.

991
01:03:56,960 --> 01:04:00,440
Speaker 1: You can follow me on TikTok, Twitter and stick. All

992
01:04:00,480 --> 01:04:03,520
Speaker 1: the links are down below. Now, before I go, because

993
01:04:03,560 --> 01:04:07,000
Speaker 1: my head feels like it's full of cotton wool, I'm

994
01:04:07,000 --> 01:04:13,280
Speaker 1: gonna do some recommendations. I I am gonna recommend actually

995
01:04:14,360 --> 01:04:19,960
Speaker 1: Headless by Shipwrecked Comedy on YouTube. It is it is

996
01:04:20,000 --> 01:04:24,160
Speaker 1: a reverend, it is literary re re based. It is

997
01:04:24,280 --> 01:04:25,960
Speaker 1: I've got my words are getting sucked up there?

998
01:04:26,480 --> 01:04:27,200
Speaker 2: What can I say?

999
01:04:27,240 --> 01:04:31,000
Speaker 1: I like in versions of classic literature in Chipwreck Comedy.

1000
01:04:31,160 --> 01:04:33,560
Speaker 1: They have made one of my favorite shows ever, which

1001
01:04:33,640 --> 01:04:37,640
Speaker 1: is Edgar Allen Poe's Murder Mystery Dinner Party Slash Gal

1002
01:04:37,680 --> 01:04:38,840
Speaker 1: of her Friends Pop Luck.

1003
01:04:39,240 --> 01:04:42,200
Speaker 2: It is a chef's kiss. I love it so much.

1004
01:04:43,160 --> 01:04:46,880
Speaker 1: For listening, I am absolutely one hundred going to recommend

1005
01:04:47,000 --> 01:04:54,440
Speaker 1: redacted History. It is eye opening if you don't already know,

1006
01:04:55,000 --> 01:04:57,440
Speaker 1: Like I knew some of the stuff that he was

1007
01:04:57,480 --> 01:05:01,960
Speaker 1: talking about, but a good chunk of it actually I

1008
01:05:02,000 --> 01:05:04,959
Speaker 1: hadn't heard of, which is awesome because I love having

1009
01:05:05,000 --> 01:05:09,920
Speaker 1: my knowledge gaps filled. And for reading, I am going

1010
01:05:09,960 --> 01:05:15,560
Speaker 1: to suggest the Tuesday Club Murders, because what's life without

1011
01:05:15,560 --> 01:05:18,680
Speaker 1: a little who done it? And with that I shall

1012
01:05:18,720 --> 01:05:23,000
Speaker 1: bid you farewell because I'm so fucking tired. I've been

1013
01:05:23,000 --> 01:05:24,920
Speaker 1: doing this for hours and I'm now in quite a

1014
01:05:24,960 --> 01:05:30,320
Speaker 1: lot of pain, and so adios au revoir of what

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Speaker 1: is there?

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Speaker 2: My friends, Bubby