Speaker 1: This is the Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft Show, your
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Speaker 1: within the confines of Cowboys Headquarters at the Star in Frisco,
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys and now your host, Kyle Yeomans. Today is Wednesday,
Speaker 1: March twenty second, and we are officially thirty six days
Speaker 1: away from the NFL Draft, just over a month away.
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Speaker 1: We've got the entire crew back in the building. We've
Speaker 1: got Bobby phil We've got Brian Broadness, Zach Walchuk, Aisha Morrison,
Speaker 1: I'm Kyle Yeoman's everybody, how are we doing? You said
Speaker 1: thirty six days? Thirty six days? Y'all got to stop
Speaker 1: saying the number. I'm excited to stop saying it out now.
Speaker 1: You know what's cool is you're starting to see these
Speaker 1: pro days. They're starting to kind of wind down and
Speaker 1: then the top one. So what got Ohio State rolling today?
Speaker 1: And you got a man. I've seen a lot of
Speaker 1: a lot of tweets of coaches doing these workouts, Cowboy
Speaker 1: coaches doing these workouts. So out at USC Ohio State,
Speaker 1: I mean dan Quinn making the Tripsowa, Iowa. He went, yeah,
Speaker 1: he did that Midwest tour for you and got him
Speaker 1: a little sweet corn on the way as he was
Speaker 1: rolling along. So yeah, No, it's it's uh, before long,
Speaker 1: this free agency thing is gonna be over. And it's
Speaker 1: these guys and gals are gonna push into these rooms
Speaker 1: and they're gonna start putting boards together. And that's cool,
Speaker 1: when isn't it. Well, it's gonna it's gonna But for
Speaker 1: the teams. For the teams, they're gonna stop, they're gonna
Speaker 1: stop looking at guys. They're gonna start looking at college guys.
Speaker 1: That's what they're gonna do. And filling the whole is
Speaker 1: where that's I mean. Right now, you're trying to build
Speaker 1: your roster and then the draft you can fill the
Speaker 1: holes and you can build that young nucleus. I think
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. I was talking to a buddy of mine
Speaker 1: and I was telling him, I think the Cowboys have
Speaker 1: set themselves up great to do what they're really good at,
Speaker 1: and that's draft. That's draft yet players. And so to me,
Speaker 1: if you're a Cowboy fan, you got to be excited
Speaker 1: about what your team did because they they're using the
Speaker 1: compensed Tory picks to trade to grab some guys. Talk
Speaker 1: to my scout buddies around the league. They got guys
Speaker 1: that can actually play. Heck yeah, Cooks and Gilmore. So
Speaker 1: it kind of keeps them really open. It makes it
Speaker 1: fun for us there in the draft show because it
Speaker 1: is so open. Really at twenty six, you know you're
Speaker 1: gonna get into like you can. We'll be on that
Speaker 1: first night and those names will start coming off that
Speaker 1: board and you're like, you're going, Okay, I'll take that guy.
Speaker 1: I'll take that guy. I'll take that guy. Yeah. We
Speaker 1: can sit back and really just enjoy falling to twenty six. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: let's talk about some of the moves that they have
Speaker 1: made and how that could affect it, because I agree
Speaker 1: with you completely. I think nothing is off the table
Speaker 1: at twenty six at this point because of some of
Speaker 1: these moves. Since the last time we were on the air,
Speaker 1: Cowboys traded a fifth round draft pick, the compensatory pick,
Speaker 1: as Brian mentioned, to Indianapolis for a corner Stefan Gilmore
Speaker 1: excuse me, released Ezekiel Elliott. They agreed the terms on
Speaker 1: a restructure with Tyrn Smith to build some more cap room,
Speaker 1: and then they resigned c J. Goodwin did so with
Speaker 1: Cooper Rush, and then they traded Brandon Cooks in exchange
Speaker 1: for a fifth round pick as well in twenty twenty three,
Speaker 1: and then a sixth round pick next year. So you've
Speaker 1: got a starting caliber corner and Stefan Gilmore. You have
Speaker 1: a starting caliber wide receiver. Probably your wide receiver too,
Speaker 1: depending on what happens in the draft with Brandon Cooks.
Speaker 1: But Bobby, now you look at it and you don't
Speaker 1: have to go with either one of those positions at
Speaker 1: twenty six anymore. Yeah, And that's kind of their their
Speaker 1: approach every offseason. I feel like where it's something where
Speaker 1: they enter the offices and go, Okay, what do we
Speaker 1: absolutely need? Okay, let's go find veterans that fill everything
Speaker 1: that we absolutely need, and then we're freed up when
Speaker 1: we get into the draft of we can just follow
Speaker 1: our board. We can get whoever want. We don't feel
Speaker 1: like we have to go get a guard right now
Speaker 1: because he dog is here. We don't have to go
Speaker 1: get a running back. We got Ronald Jones. You know,
Speaker 1: we don't have to go get a corner because we
Speaker 1: got stuff on Golmore. But if they want to get
Speaker 1: a corner, if corners the top player there, they can
Speaker 1: just get it. If the top player there's a running back,
Speaker 1: they can get the running back. And that's kind of
Speaker 1: been their m for the last I don't know, probably
Speaker 1: decade under Will McClay really running the draft, is they not?
Speaker 1: They use this month to knock out their needs and
Speaker 1: have contingencies in place so that if it doesn't fall
Speaker 1: the way they want, they don't feel like they left
Speaker 1: the draft with, you know, their hands empty. I feel
Speaker 1: like it's always always call it protecting yourself policies. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think that's what Will really is interested in doing.
Speaker 1: He's trying to make sure that, like he doesn't, like
Speaker 1: you said, Bobby, that he doesn't have to go get somebody.
Speaker 1: He can say, Okay, if this thing falls to me,
Speaker 1: and if they're very open about taking and we've seen
Speaker 1: the last couple of drafts, they're very open to taking
Speaker 1: the best player on their board, regardless of the position
Speaker 1: you go. Now, I was gonna say though, like even
Speaker 1: with that though, like because Boby was saying that's been
Speaker 1: their mo for a while. Yeah, we've seen it be
Speaker 1: their m But the gentleman that they brought in here,
Speaker 1: did they move the needle? Were they guys that we
Speaker 1: felt like now? Granted, I feel like they have been
Speaker 1: more aggressive on the defensive side of the ball and
Speaker 1: free agency since Dan Quinn has gotten here because he
Speaker 1: has a specific type of gentleman. He's trying to build
Speaker 1: something on that side of the ball, but he on
Speaker 1: the offensive side of the ball. To Brandon Cooks, thing
Speaker 1: is something that it was in the works, but just
Speaker 1: to bring a guy in here that you know should
Speaker 1: be able to take that new number two spot, it
Speaker 1: feels different than it has to me in past years
Speaker 1: with the caliber of gentlemen that they're bringing in here
Speaker 1: to replace those guys before the draft. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: they wouldn't got Randall Cobb one year and that was
Speaker 1: a significant one. But in the past generally, I think
Speaker 1: it's just the value was there for them to make
Speaker 1: the deal that I think they've spent similar capital before. Like,
Speaker 1: it wouldn't be unusual if you if we had headed
Speaker 1: into this offseason said the Cowboys are going to make
Speaker 1: a trade using a fifth and a sixth rounder for
Speaker 1: a receiver. I think most people would hear that and go, Okay, well,
Speaker 1: who are they traded for? It? Probably somebody I've never
Speaker 1: heard of, Like they wouldn't expect Cooks to get back.
Speaker 1: So I think the Cowboys approach is similar in acquiring
Speaker 1: players tout it's always been on offense or defense. I
Speaker 1: think what it is is the opportunity was given to
Speaker 1: them to get really quality players for what they normally
Speaker 1: spend in terms of with Gilmore and Cooks being more
Speaker 1: valuable than what they typically get. They stayed after the
Speaker 1: Cooks deal. That was something they were trying to get done.
Speaker 1: They weren't the longest and they got it at their price. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, big, big win for them. But yeah, you're right.
Speaker 1: I mean you looked at what were their biggest needs
Speaker 1: at the end of last year. I mean they were
Speaker 1: desperate for a number two corner. You saw that after
Speaker 1: the injuries. They filled that void with Gilmore and then
Speaker 1: who was your other playmaker outside of cd Lam Offensively,
Speaker 1: I mean, we're hopeful that Michael Gallup gets back to
Speaker 1: where we want him to be and where he's been
Speaker 1: in his career. But you make the move for Brandon
Speaker 1: Cooks also adds the speed element which you've been lacking.
Speaker 1: You get two home run starters. In my opinion for
Speaker 1: low compics, I think it's fantastic team building by the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: It's not even just the insurance policy anymore, at least
Speaker 1: this time around. It's not. This is an aggressive push
Speaker 1: to build a roster, to build a competitor. And with
Speaker 1: that being said, now it opens things up. It opens
Speaker 1: up the possibilities that if a Bijan Robinson out of
Speaker 1: Texas falls to you, and I know that's that's the
Speaker 1: popular name, there's a big if around that because it's
Speaker 1: safe to say he's not even close to being guaranteed
Speaker 1: being there at twenty six. But let's say Jamir Gibbs
Speaker 1: is there out of Alabama. Maybe you can make me
Speaker 1: make that pick. Tight endwise, we've talked about these tight
Speaker 1: ends a number of times. Is there a position though,
Speaker 1: that is off the table now now that these moves
Speaker 1: have been made. Is there a single position that you
Speaker 1: would say, let's not think about that in the first round,
Speaker 1: let's move on. I don't know if they would think
Speaker 1: about a quarterback at twenty six. No quarterback, I don't
Speaker 1: think now does that change with this move? Though probably not.
Speaker 1: The was see that, But that's what I'm saying, the
Speaker 1: thing about, you know, we're I know, I'm talking about
Speaker 1: it being wide open and stuff like that. I don't
Speaker 1: see one of those top quarterbacks fall into twenty six,
Speaker 1: but it would be interesting if one did, just to see,
Speaker 1: you know how, what they really really feel about their
Speaker 1: quarterback situation going forward. Are you at four names? There?
Speaker 1: Four names with C. J. Strout Ohio State, Bryce Young Alabama,
Speaker 1: Will Levis Kentucky, Anthony Richardson Florida. Those are the four.
Speaker 1: Those are my four names. Stroud, Young, Levis, Richardson would
Speaker 1: be my four. And the thing about it is and
Speaker 1: but I literally like Kendon Hooker and I mentioned him
Speaker 1: quite a bit. But I would be interested to see
Speaker 1: because I remember in previous drafts that the green Bay Packers,
Speaker 1: Ted Thompson, the general manager in green Bay, was not
Speaker 1: going to draft Aaron Rodgers. He didn't think Aaron Rodgers,
Speaker 1: any quarterback was going to get to him, you know.
Speaker 1: And so all of a sudden, you know, they're sitting
Speaker 1: there at twenty four and they've got Brett Farve on
Speaker 1: their roster, you know, and I know Brett Farve was
Speaker 1: towards the end of his career, but Ted Thompson had
Speaker 1: no intention to draft in a quarterback in that first round.
Speaker 1: And he goes he told the guys in the room,
Speaker 1: he says, boys, we can't pass this guy, can we?
Speaker 1: And they didn't, you know, and that's sometimes sometimes you
Speaker 1: get to a point where if you have a player
Speaker 1: that's high enough on your board and he slides to you,
Speaker 1: you can't pass that player. Consider you know, you don't
Speaker 1: want to ever. You always hear me say this, don't
Speaker 1: window dress your board. Sure put these players where you
Speaker 1: honestly believe you would take them. A guy lost his
Speaker 1: job here, Tom Suskowski lost his job here because of
Speaker 1: they had a defensive tackle from Florida Floyd in the
Speaker 1: first round and at the top five pick, and when
Speaker 1: it came time to pick him, they didn't pick him,
Speaker 1: you know. And now all of a sudden there was
Speaker 1: a big argument like, well, why are you And that's
Speaker 1: when Will McClay took over the draft. But that's that's
Speaker 1: where that's where you you you know, you got to
Speaker 1: be careful because if you're putting players on that board
Speaker 1: and you're not willing to take him. When it's you
Speaker 1: you get the opportunity, then you're not doing yourself any favors.
Speaker 1: Sure your board, your your your board is not true
Speaker 1: to who you are. It'd be fascinating if one slid.
Speaker 1: We kind to saw that a couple of years ago
Speaker 1: at Justin Fields. They had the opportunity with Fields falling
Speaker 1: into ten, they moved back. That's where I like the
Speaker 1: idea of a quarterback sliding. And I also want I
Speaker 1: wonder because of the fifth year option, if a team decides, hey,
Speaker 1: we really like Hendon Hooker and the medicals checked out
Speaker 1: where he's going to be ready to go? Is that
Speaker 1: a guy that maybe a team would move up to
Speaker 1: get just to get that fifth year option at the
Speaker 1: bottom of the first round, and you could benefit off
Speaker 1: of that by maybe stockpiling some more picks, maybe a
Speaker 1: future one for next year, depending on how far a
Speaker 1: team has to move up. I think all of those
Speaker 1: are really intriguing, intriguing ideas. We've had that conversation a
Speaker 1: couple of times that at twenty six, do you feel
Speaker 1: like the board would dry up enough to where they
Speaker 1: would entertain that option? Now, the level of the compensation
Speaker 1: would certainly change sure the narrative there, because if some
Speaker 1: team comes in and they've just got a ton of compensation,
Speaker 1: you're gonna take it. But if there's a position group
Speaker 1: that's not available there for the Cowboys at twenty six
Speaker 1: would be the Cowboys. Teams know that they know that
Speaker 1: that's a target to where they can come up and
Speaker 1: maybe try and acquire that twenty six. I think you
Speaker 1: to me, there's as I study this thing, and I
Speaker 1: don't want to speak for you guys, as I study
Speaker 1: this there's going to be a player that they really
Speaker 1: like at twenty six. I just think it's it's so
Speaker 1: deep in certain positions, and they've left themselves open to
Speaker 1: being able to take whichever one they want. If they
Speaker 1: want to take if they want to take a tight end,
Speaker 1: if they want to take one of these defensive tackles,
Speaker 1: if they want to take a corner, if they want
Speaker 1: to take a wide receiver. I think I think there's
Speaker 1: plenty of I think there's plenty of options for them
Speaker 1: to do. I just feel like the quarterback one is
Speaker 1: always an interesting discussion when you really don't feel like
Speaker 1: you need one, But in this day and age, as
Speaker 1: you continue to pay these quarterbacks forty five to soon
Speaker 1: be fifty million dollars. You know, this is an organization
Speaker 1: that can move on from a quarterback and not be
Speaker 1: worried about it. And I say that because the owner
Speaker 1: is the general manager. If you're sitting there some of
Speaker 1: these other places. My buddy Jason Lte in Tampa, he
Speaker 1: was going to get fired until Tom Brady came along.
Speaker 1: Less Snead was going to get fired, you know, until
Speaker 1: some of the moves happened out there with the Rams.
Speaker 1: If you don't have a quarterback, you will sell your soul.
Speaker 1: I live this with the Cowboys nearly two thousands. I
Speaker 1: would have given anything to be through what the way
Speaker 1: people are moving quarterbacks in this day and age, like
Speaker 1: willingness to part with you know, Derek Carrs and Matt
Speaker 1: Staffords and people like that. We were playing with baseball
Speaker 1: players because nobody give up their quarterback. Nobody give up
Speaker 1: their quarterback. So now, I mean, I think the Cowboys
Speaker 1: are a situation where you know, if your job depends
Speaker 1: on it, you will sell your soul for a quarterback.
Speaker 1: But here they don't have to. And this is the
Speaker 1: first organization I thought that wouldn't pay a quarterback forty
Speaker 1: million dollars and they didn't, and they did, they did,
Speaker 1: And now there are a lot of Cowboys fans that
Speaker 1: are on the fence about Dak Prescott and the season
Speaker 1: that he had. That doesn't matter. It's he's your quarterback,
Speaker 1: he's your franchise guy. I will say that's a transition though,
Speaker 1: because we were talking in our group message about what
Speaker 1: we wanted to hit today, why or why not guys
Speaker 1: that you're on the fence about draftwise, we were able
Speaker 1: to put together a list of guys that you aren't
Speaker 1: necessarily out on, but aren't necessarily in on that any
Speaker 1: of these on the fence guys that you could see.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna start with Zach Waldshut. Oh great, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: see what waldschut. Can I go first? I'll go first.
Speaker 1: Go let me go first. Okay, are you are you
Speaker 1: guys in and out on Lucas fan Ness from Iowa? Okay,
Speaker 1: this is a good one. Are you in and out?
Speaker 1: If Lucas fan Ness defensive end from Iowa gets to you,
Speaker 1: are you in or out on him? We're talking about
Speaker 1: at twenty six at twenty six? Oh come out? Why
Speaker 1: is that? Go for it? Why I'm out. I think
Speaker 1: I'll talked to Brian about this the other day like
Speaker 1: this and this is no knock to to the program,
Speaker 1: but we talk about Iowa guys and what they bring
Speaker 1: and how fundamentally sound they are and stuff, and there's
Speaker 1: just a viciousness that I look for in d N's
Speaker 1: and um, I just don't know how much he likes
Speaker 1: getting hit in the mouth, like and I just don't
Speaker 1: that means something to me, Like that means something to
Speaker 1: me in pursuiting the stuff and watching him is like
Speaker 1: if he gets hit in the mouth a couple of times,
Speaker 1: he doesn't respond that well, similar to to me, similar
Speaker 1: to how you see some of the Bosta brother for
Speaker 1: the Niners. If you run at him, if you go
Speaker 1: at him, he gets exhausted, whatever the case may be.
Speaker 1: But I just I don't I don't see if I
Speaker 1: don't see a first round I don't see a first
Speaker 1: round player there, jes see you always coming. Why are
Speaker 1: you gonna say it like that? I don't think. I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't think you're wrong. I don't think that. It's
Speaker 1: not that I don't think he's tough tough enough. I
Speaker 1: just don't know if he's battle tested enough for me
Speaker 1: to be like, yeah, that ye fairness, and that's just
Speaker 1: just my personal that's I think that's fair. At twenty six,
Speaker 1: i'd be I think I'm out on him too, And
Speaker 1: I just I didn't love the guy that I watched
Speaker 1: and I saw Paris Johnson from Ohio State. I got
Speaker 1: to see that game in person and I went back
Speaker 1: and studied it. I thought he handled him pretty well.
Speaker 1: He's not a guy that I think has an amazing
Speaker 1: pass rush ability right that you tap into. He's a
Speaker 1: good all around player, plays the run solid. I think
Speaker 1: he can kick inside, play some defensive tackle. And it's
Speaker 1: interesting because you had dan Quinn working him out. Maybe
Speaker 1: Dick you really likes him, and look, if deck you
Speaker 1: likes a guy, fine, you know, if you stand on
Speaker 1: the table for him, I'm gonna trust in dan Quinn.
Speaker 1: But when I watched him, I'm with y Aisha. I
Speaker 1: was like, I don't see the top ten, top twenty
Speaker 1: type of hype. Now. If he falls to twenty six, maybe,
Speaker 1: but I think I'm out more than I'm in on him,
Speaker 1: and he might be one of the guys that I'm
Speaker 1: most wrong about him this entire club. I think he
Speaker 1: is the same way. I think that both Ayisha and
Speaker 1: Zach have seen him the right way. I have more
Speaker 1: questions about him than I have good positive answers. He
Speaker 1: played in a rotating system there at Iowa. I just
Speaker 1: when it came down to like, okay, gotta have a play,
Speaker 1: gotta have a play, I just didn't see it with
Speaker 1: a guy that you know, some of these other defensive ends.
Speaker 1: I see these guys make plays a lot, and I
Speaker 1: questioned about him a little bit. Bobby, I always get
Speaker 1: a little when we talk about biases. I guess I
Speaker 1: always get a little hesitant when we're talking about a
Speaker 1: first round edge rusher who the first thing that you
Speaker 1: point to when you talk about their skill set a
Speaker 1: lot of times is power. Like when it's power is
Speaker 1: the top thing at the edge, it's like, all right, well,
Speaker 1: but power is not like the top trade I'm necessarily
Speaker 1: looking for on the edge. Now, it's important you want
Speaker 1: to play with it. You don't want to be a
Speaker 1: guy with no play strength or who gets bullied or
Speaker 1: whatever else. But when that's the lead, that's what you're
Speaker 1: leading with is man. The power that this guy plays
Speaker 1: with and the toughness and the physicality everything. That's like,
Speaker 1: that's not what I'm looking for off the edge I
Speaker 1: want to see. And I know he tested fairly well,
Speaker 1: yeah across what I didn't see. The athleticisms showed up.
Speaker 1: But to be fair, the last time I saw a
Speaker 1: guy who it's like, man, he plays with a lot
Speaker 1: of power, plays some push poll technique, doesn't quite look
Speaker 1: like the athlete on tape that he tested. Like the
Speaker 1: last guy we described like that was T. J. Watt,
Speaker 1: where Watt tested way above what he looked like physically
Speaker 1: on tape and what was a push poll guy and
Speaker 1: didn't show a lot of the stuff that he's now
Speaker 1: using at the next level. So I'll always defer. If
Speaker 1: they look at it and they say, nope, these traits
Speaker 1: are here, it's like, well, I trust the scouting staff.
Speaker 1: They've been right about guys that we've had questions about before.
Speaker 1: But that's a hesitancy for me. Is when I was here,
Speaker 1: like is if power is the lead on an edge rusher,
Speaker 1: I'm like, Okay, well, let me pull back a little bit.
Speaker 1: I don't know that that's what I want to spend
Speaker 1: first round capital on compared to the rest of the
Speaker 1: edge rush class. You have Will Anderson at the top
Speaker 1: out of Alabama, Tyree Wilson's up there to Texas Tech.
Speaker 1: Nolan Smith from Georgia. Is he the second start of
Speaker 1: the second tier or is he kind of mixed in
Speaker 1: a little bit lower than that for you Nolan Smith,
Speaker 1: Ojularie McDonald from Iowa State and Van Ness. Because in
Speaker 1: that order, that order that's one through four, that's no,
Speaker 1: that's second round Wilson, Anderson, Murphy and then now second
Speaker 1: Nolan Smith, Ojilari Lsu McDonald Iowa State, van Ness from Iowa.
Speaker 1: It would be that in that group. Well, I was
Speaker 1: gonna say too. We talked about Dan Quinn and he
Speaker 1: was up in Iowa doing his you know, making his rounds.
Speaker 1: Like if you if he worked out VanNess and then
Speaker 1: when worked out Will McDonald, Yeah, it's not gonna look
Speaker 1: the same. They're not gonna look like the same. And
Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying, Like I at this point with
Speaker 1: d N respectfully, I want an athlete. I want the pursuit.
Speaker 1: I want to speed because at this juncture, I just
Speaker 1: feel like those guys can they can change the game.
Speaker 1: We're starting to see it and I'm looking at more
Speaker 1: of how much of an athlete is this guy, how
Speaker 1: how how's this pursuit, how's this speed or whatever. I
Speaker 1: do understand that edge is something like they got to
Speaker 1: defend the run and everything. But at this point, like
Speaker 1: when you brought up the point about power, Bobby, like
Speaker 1: that's fine, Like, yeah, I want the power to play
Speaker 1: the run, but at the same time, I want somebody
Speaker 1: that's gonna changed the game. Also on that side though,
Speaker 1: when they if they were to go and I think
Speaker 1: they would like McDonald dan Vaness. I think I'm sure
Speaker 1: they have positive feelings about both of them. If you
Speaker 1: do want to look at what has dan Quinn typically
Speaker 1: had on the edge, van Ness is more the physical
Speaker 1: attributes that he's looked for. He has looked for more stout,
Speaker 1: I mean just running off of obviously he's out of
Speaker 1: Vic Beasley before, but like think of those Seattle defensive
Speaker 1: ends when he was there. Think about guys that he's
Speaker 1: played with in Atlanta. Adrian Clayborne was a guy that
Speaker 1: played with him over there, and Clayborne was more of
Speaker 1: that strong, powerful So I think there is I wouldn't
Speaker 1: be surprised if he would not have a problem with
Speaker 1: van Nett like if you compare the two physical profiles,
Speaker 1: if he looked and said, well, van Ness fits more
Speaker 1: of what I've typically liked to have there, Not that
Speaker 1: it would rule out Will McDonald or anything else, but
Speaker 1: I think physical profile, there's there's probably an arguments we
Speaker 1: made that van Ness fits more of like that mold
Speaker 1: shots that he's had before. Yeah, got another guy, man,
Speaker 1: how about cut? Throw another guy? I love doing this game.
Speaker 1: This is one of my favorite games. Mazzi Smith from
Speaker 1: Michigan defensive tackle. I was hoping to save him for
Speaker 1: the last second of Let's last. I'll throw you another name?
Speaker 1: How about this one? How about how about Marvin Mims?
Speaker 1: Oh at time? Give me Marvin Mims all day? Baby? Yeah,
Speaker 1: Marvin Mims is being slept on big time in this draft.
Speaker 1: He's might have to just I'm just wire? Why not?
Speaker 1: Why no? It doesn't have to be at twenty six wire?
Speaker 1: Why yeah, i'd wire? Why not? Would you take the
Speaker 1: guy that makes me feel better? Yeah? No, I'm not
Speaker 1: taking him in the first round, But but I think
Speaker 1: I'd have that conversation at fifty eight a lot like
Speaker 1: the Cowboys did with Tolbert last year. I think people
Speaker 1: are worried about Marvin Mims because of the size. You know,
Speaker 1: if he plays outside, see guy that's going to be
Speaker 1: able to get off press coverage. I think he's so
Speaker 1: crafty and he's so quick with his technique and his
Speaker 1: speed and quickness that he's gonna be fine. You know.
Speaker 1: I think he's a guy you can move around all
Speaker 1: over the formation. He's a big play guy for being
Speaker 1: may maybe a five eleven smaller receiver. He plays big.
Speaker 1: He'll high point the football, he'll go up and get
Speaker 1: it the body, the way he's able to contort his
Speaker 1: body in the air track the football. He's also a
Speaker 1: guy that I think is gonna fit really well within
Speaker 1: the Cowboys offense. Think about the West Coast scheme. Get
Speaker 1: him the ball and move in space on the run,
Speaker 1: let him go make plays. I think Marvin Mims to me,
Speaker 1: has the chance to be one of the best receivers
Speaker 1: in this draft class outside of the size, which I
Speaker 1: agree with you completely because I mean, you and I
Speaker 1: have watched Marvin for for years now. But with his size,
Speaker 1: he plays bigger. What's another knock to his game. I
Speaker 1: think she's got it. Huh No, I was just I
Speaker 1: was what Asha laying on us see the twinkle in
Speaker 1: the eye. No, I mean because you brought up tober
Speaker 1: and I So my question to you guys about Marvin
Speaker 1: Mims is, are you worried about are you worried about
Speaker 1: his his route tree, him knowing the whole that was
Speaker 1: my knock took. He needs a little bit more added
Speaker 1: onto there because he's only done. I mean, he's his
Speaker 1: vertical game and then underneath that's about it does question though,
Speaker 1: right a knock like I'm just right, I'm saying it's
Speaker 1: more an unknown I don't know that it's a legitimate Kno,
Speaker 1: it's a coachable thing, right right, well, and it's just
Speaker 1: something we don't know, yeh. Like you know, there's been
Speaker 1: questions before about like when Josh Allen got to the NFL.
Speaker 1: They didn't know about Josh Allen's whiteboard work, they didn't
Speaker 1: know about Mahomes. Mahomes was another one. There were a
Speaker 1: lot of teams that felt like, Okay, we don't necessarily
Speaker 1: know what he's like because of the system that he ran,
Speaker 1: So it's not necessarily it's just more of a question,
Speaker 1: I guess, no doubt feel like that it's we don't
Speaker 1: know the answer as opposed to this is something we've
Speaker 1: seen on tape and it's a negative and it doesn't
Speaker 1: look good. Well yeah, and then also too, I mean
Speaker 1: he has the return ability. Sure brings that immediately, and
Speaker 1: I think that's something that teams are definitely looking at.
Speaker 1: That's an important part of things. I love his acceleration,
Speaker 1: I like his quick release. Right, It's a lot I
Speaker 1: like about him. And then if you talk about you
Speaker 1: know what you're supposed to, what you're possibly doing in
Speaker 1: this offense, he definitely is a guy you can set
Speaker 1: him up. You can set him up to have success
Speaker 1: in this in this offense if it is going to
Speaker 1: go the way you're supposed to go. So, yeah, what
Speaker 1: do you guys think about him? I mean the biggest
Speaker 1: question for him would probably be I think they feel
Speaker 1: comfortable with it. The original question I would have been
Speaker 1: curious about with them would have been if they thought
Speaker 1: he could play outside. Now that there was some of
Speaker 1: it at Oklahoma, but there wasn't you know, there is
Speaker 1: a question about whether that's where he could succeed at
Speaker 1: the next level. I think as they're going through their values,
Speaker 1: I think Dallas is potentially becoming more comfortable with the
Speaker 1: idea that he could play around, and they just acquired
Speaker 1: a guy who's a similar size. Brandon Cooks is five
Speaker 1: weighs one hundred and eighty five pounds. If you want
Speaker 1: to talk about knocks on mims, I don't know how
Speaker 1: tight the route running always is um and I think
Speaker 1: that if it's contested at all, it's tipping the defense's way.
Speaker 1: There's not a lot of contested finishes. He's got his
Speaker 1: his off the line of scrimmagees, releases are good. He's quick,
Speaker 1: he's fast, he can get separation, do it all those things.
Speaker 1: If a corner is on him, if a corner reads
Speaker 1: him and stays on the route with him, that that's
Speaker 1: pretty much game over for his round. How many corners
Speaker 1: did he play in the Big twelve that were able
Speaker 1: to do that? How many defensive players are in the
Speaker 1: Big twelve period? That's what I kind of It's funny.
Speaker 1: I was talking to somebody the other day and they
Speaker 1: made reference that I had to look. I think it's
Speaker 1: been we are the last five all pro teams haven't
Speaker 1: had a single Big twelve player on defense. Wow. So
Speaker 1: I mean that's a conference that's been hurting for defensive
Speaker 1: players for a while about to get one picked in
Speaker 1: the top ten this year, though, Kyrie Wilster Wilson cat
Speaker 1: throw one more name out real quick. I know you
Speaker 1: got Twitter on the twenty cabin up here, Twitter on
Speaker 1: the thirty. Yeah, it's very flexible, fungible, as you'd like
Speaker 1: to say in the radio world, Ty Jay spears the
Speaker 1: running back from Tulane. What are you doing over? I
Speaker 1: mean he's picking all my favorite guys. I'm in and
Speaker 1: I'm just asking. Yeah, I'm I'm one hundred percent in
Speaker 1: the third round. Man, I think that that can be
Speaker 1: your future starter and you don't have to worry about it. Yep.
Speaker 1: I think he can do everything for you. He's so electric.
Speaker 1: I have I have an early fourth round grade on him.
Speaker 1: But if he's there in the third, at late third,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm taking him. Yeah. If if that's what they
Speaker 1: feel comfortable with, if they go with it there, I'm
Speaker 1: in because I think he's a playmaker. I think he
Speaker 1: could be better than what I even had him grated
Speaker 1: at on the fence. Win third round, third round, third round,
Speaker 1: I'm in. Yeah, any earlier, anybody earlier than now. No, No,
Speaker 1: we're not go Earl go for it. I consider it
Speaker 1: in round two. I would at fifty eight. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: because he's the best player on the field. Every time
Speaker 1: I watch you, you are getting a playmaker, like yeah,
Speaker 1: and in a sense of like the way that you
Speaker 1: talk about Tony Pollitter is like, yeah, just getting a
Speaker 1: runner back, you getting a playmaker. And I think Taija
Speaker 1: is a lineba a linebacker's worst night. Oh yes. And
Speaker 1: so if you if you, if you can get favorable
Speaker 1: matchups there, I think he could be. I don't know, Okay,
Speaker 1: I prefer him. I prefer him in round three. Heck,
Speaker 1: if you can get him in four, I would have
Speaker 1: a party. You might have to go around early on
Speaker 1: some of these cats. But but that's exactly what I'm thinking, Like,
Speaker 1: if you got a guy that you really want, like
Speaker 1: I would take Spears over Eh. Personally, I'm not there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm not there on that need to He didn't know
Speaker 1: how that knee looks to spears? Yes, a cl Yes,
Speaker 1: he's he's got some knee questions. Is that recent? That's
Speaker 1: he's got some knee questions. People were wondering about it
Speaker 1: not I don't know how it came out of any
Speaker 1: but I know people were heading into Andy. Just Hey,
Speaker 1: we'd like to look at the name. Interesting. I think
Speaker 1: he's all right, are just fine in his last college
Speaker 1: game plus against USC, So yeah, that's an interesting all right.
Speaker 1: I've got a couple other names, but I'll we're gonna
Speaker 1: save him for the third segment because I want to
Speaker 1: go back to it. We're gonna get back through. I
Speaker 1: want to hit Mossy Smith there too, because there were
Speaker 1: a ton of Twitter on the twenty questions about him. Okay,
Speaker 1: but I wanted to push it to the third segments.
Speaker 1: We get it all in there, all right when we
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Speaker 1: down the days to the NFL Draft. What's going on?
Speaker 1: I asked you a question about a particular player or
Speaker 1: a guy from Northwestern at a bar, A right, yeah,
Speaker 1: And and I said, anybody see him as a tackle?
Speaker 1: And I usually looked at me like, why would you
Speaker 1: look at him at end? Right? No, he's listened as
Speaker 1: an edge rusher. Yeah, but I'm watching I was watching
Speaker 1: him before our show yesterday and like all of his
Speaker 1: impact plays inside, fast and athletic and twitchy. Does not
Speaker 1: mean you got to put him on the edge. Almost
Speaker 1: said it almost cussed. Don't mean you got to put
Speaker 1: somebody on the edge, man, goadjam all right, it's time
Speaker 1: now for your favorite segment, your favorite segment of the show.
Speaker 1: It's time for some Oh it was real quiet, but
Speaker 1: it was there, It was there, It was really quiet.
Speaker 1: All right, let's go with Mario. Yeah, let's go with Mario.
Speaker 1: He says, are there any other spots on the roster
Speaker 1: you'd like to see a dress before declaring this draft
Speaker 1: a true and unbiased BPA draft. I think I think
Speaker 1: they're there, though, is it already there? I think that's
Speaker 1: that's part of the answer. Go get me a linebacker.
Speaker 1: I need another line Okay, linebacker was the first thing
Speaker 1: I thought of. And uh, I mean, I don't know
Speaker 1: why we were sleeping on kickers, man, I mean, I mean, look,
Speaker 1: not start, what are they gonna do a kicker? They're
Speaker 1: gonna draft my guy, Jake Moody from Michigan in the
Speaker 1: third round instead of Taje Spears for Zach Well, what
Speaker 1: the heck? No? If it if it hadn't been our
Speaker 1: guy from prosper last year. Then go to the Brown
Speaker 1: feel like, yeah, wait, you say linebacker, right, you got
Speaker 1: one in mine? Uh no, just I mean go find another.
Speaker 1: It's I mean it honestly doesn't. That does me no
Speaker 1: good right now. But I mean, if we're talking about
Speaker 1: just we're talking about their contingencies should really go into
Speaker 1: the draft. So if you're talking about laugh, no, just
Speaker 1: go get me another veteran, bout it. You've lost Luke Gifford,
Speaker 1: nobody's replaced him yet, and that was somebody who got
Speaker 1: snaps for you in the second half. You still have
Speaker 1: questions about Jabrille Cox demon Clark will see how he
Speaker 1: you know, continues not wrong. There's always questions about vander
Speaker 1: Esh's durability and Michael Parsons rushes a lot. So yeah,
Speaker 1: you probably need to stick at least one more veteran
Speaker 1: in here to really feel like you're covered heading into there,
Speaker 1: I would have no chance you're getting They're not gonna
Speaker 1: They're not going to get Bobby Well. No, no, that's
Speaker 1: what you're thinking. I'm not saying wager. I'm talking about
Speaker 1: I mean goodness, Like when they signed Jasper Brinkley for
Speaker 1: Minnesota years going. That costs us a million five. But
Speaker 1: I'm saying that in place, that's the kind of guy
Speaker 1: you probably good or I think you guys mentioned on
Speaker 1: a radio the other day are signed are gone? Yeah
Speaker 1: he would have been. He would have been a great signing.
Speaker 1: Ceraly think they're completely out on Wagner. I really don't
Speaker 1: think they're trust you think it's out, Yeah, I think.
Speaker 1: I think in the next two weeks not I know
Speaker 1: you live in this I know you live in this building,
Speaker 1: but I thinks can be fluid, things can change. Maybe
Speaker 1: maybe you got your ice, you know, depressions down. I
Speaker 1: do think a defensive tackle is the other one, and
Speaker 1: I'm really hopeful they bring back Hankins. He's dragging his
Speaker 1: feet on your man, but hey, that's that's an areas
Speaker 1: they need to address de tackle. He made such a
Speaker 1: positive impact for them when they brought him in, you know,
Speaker 1: keeping Layton vander Esch clean, keeping your line, but also
Speaker 1: in the run game is while I think they do
Speaker 1: need to still address a big boy defensive tap. People
Speaker 1: ask me about a Shawan Robinson and I can't. I'm
Speaker 1: sorry I couldn't tell you and do it. Okay, I can't.
Speaker 1: I mean no, no, no, I I got him up. Yes,
Speaker 1: I mean to watch it. I need to watch him,
Speaker 1: is what I'm saying. I haven't seen him play in
Speaker 1: a while, I think, unless my son play was in Detroit. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so I'm you know, I'm I don't know about that.
Speaker 1: Anybody gotta says, Bobby brought it up before we go
Speaker 1: to anybody got a linebacker in the first round? No, No,
Speaker 1: probably not, probably like that I would grade in the
Speaker 1: first round. Yeah, yeah, Sanders You've got Sanders is a
Speaker 1: first round Yeah, I think And I like the abletic
Speaker 1: Sanders is really good local too. Kid. And I'm just
Speaker 1: throwing a name out here. You want to talk about
Speaker 1: special teams, has defensive snaps. Personnel department knows him. Damian
Speaker 1: Wilson's a free agent. Okay, I'm saying that that kind
Speaker 1: of a name, But like when you're talking about that's
Speaker 1: the type of name I'm talking about adding, just like
Speaker 1: the way they signed Hi Dooga. It's the same. It's
Speaker 1: gonna the same kind of confident. Got you at it?
Speaker 1: Just somebody in here at linebacker? All right? Will Stone asked,
Speaker 1: y'all have done a great job down the top corners
Speaker 1: in the draft, But could you break down some of
Speaker 1: the Day two guys, because of course cowboys going out
Speaker 1: and getting stuff on Gilmore Corner at twenty six isn't
Speaker 1: off the table completely, but it's less of a likable scenario.
Speaker 1: So where could some of these Day two guys be ranked?
Speaker 1: Anybody have names that they like Day two corners, but
Speaker 1: Clark Phillips from Utah Okay, Yes, yeah, yeah, I consider
Speaker 1: Clark Phillips in the second round. He's a little bit smaller,
Speaker 1: but super quick feet. That's what I worry about, Like
Speaker 1: the size is that going to be an issue because
Speaker 1: he's one of the few that's not doesn't have the
Speaker 1: length and is like a six foot two massive guy.
Speaker 1: He's more of a compact build with good speedby you
Speaker 1: watch it against Jordan Addison, that was some fun tape
Speaker 1: to watch those two going back and forth, runs really well.
Speaker 1: Can get lost in traffic a little bit. He got
Speaker 1: caught a few times when he was in man coverage
Speaker 1: and he's got to run through the trash there. But
Speaker 1: he's a fun guy and he plays. He plays with
Speaker 1: some chippiness, which I'm always looking forward with corners. DJ
Speaker 1: Turner from Michigan. For me, is a guy that I
Speaker 1: would really like to see and uh, I mean to me,
Speaker 1: he's really I think he's a really could be a
Speaker 1: really good nickel to start out with. He's a smaller guy.
Speaker 1: Though he's five eleven, he's one hundred and seventy eight pounds.
Speaker 1: He did get a little bullied in the Michigan State
Speaker 1: game where they're pushing off him. But other than that, man,
Speaker 1: this guy is a hard guy to run away from.
Speaker 1: I think he could play on either side of the field.
Speaker 1: And you know, like I say that slot stuff. With
Speaker 1: his size, his movement, I mean, I think that he's
Speaker 1: he's got a real shot to be a big time
Speaker 1: player in this league. Did you tell me more about
Speaker 1: Trevias Hodge Tomlinson. I have not seen him, I haven't.
Speaker 1: I mean I watched him play in college, but I haven't.
Speaker 1: I haven't done the deep dive when it comes to
Speaker 1: the tape. Also maybe a size question there, But he's
Speaker 1: another guy that plays. I mean, he's aggressive. I think
Speaker 1: he runs really well. Personally, he's intriguing. To me, his height,
Speaker 1: arm and weight is all smaller than I anything. Will
Speaker 1: McClay has ever drafted. Yeah, it's probably why none of
Speaker 1: us have taken a look at him here. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: he'll he'll be here next Friday. If oh that's true.
Speaker 1: He's Dallas guys. There we go very nice. That's nice. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean they bring in the qualifiers, they bring in
Speaker 1: all their qualified like, I mean, that doesn't that doesn't
Speaker 1: always indicate like super strong interest. It's to get a
Speaker 1: closer look. I like Jalen Jones at Texas A and
Speaker 1: m Okay, yeah, I think I think you're onto side.
Speaker 1: I think Jones when you talk now, the long speed's
Speaker 1: not there. Um, But I mean I feel like a
Speaker 1: lot of his issues are just in need of coaching,
Speaker 1: like technique issues and and things like that. But I
Speaker 1: think we talk about like the physicality, the natural instincts
Speaker 1: I think are really good. The size is right up
Speaker 1: the dan Quinn two arms are a little short. But
Speaker 1: the thing about him, I think this guy might be
Speaker 1: I thought he might be a little bit of a
Speaker 1: more better safety project because of his physical style. This
Speaker 1: guy loves to hit. I mean, he loves to tackle.
Speaker 1: He's got I felt like the length that corner gives
Speaker 1: him a little bit of some problems. You're right about that,
Speaker 1: but also said like with him is the ball skills.
Speaker 1: When he gets his hands on the ball, I could
Speaker 1: finish They'll line him up on both sides the field,
Speaker 1: the toughness to size, I'll be My last line was
Speaker 1: I'll be interested to see where NFL team's view in
Speaker 1: this position. Wise, I think he is a perfect matchup
Speaker 1: for tight ends. Like if you're in a division where
Speaker 1: you're playing against the Travis Kelcey's twice a year, I
Speaker 1: would take this guy and I'm gonna put him on
Speaker 1: tight ends and I think he's going to cause them
Speaker 1: real problem. Because I'm with you. His body types interesting.
Speaker 1: He's kind of got like a linebacker build in his
Speaker 1: upper body and then it goes back to corner in
Speaker 1: the lower body. So I can see the safety traits there.
Speaker 1: But it's just to me watch him. I was like, man,
Speaker 1: I think he can match up well like we saw
Speaker 1: with Byron Jones being able to cover tight ends. I
Speaker 1: think he's really he can be a good player against
Speaker 1: tight ends in the next level. What you got any names?
Speaker 1: I mean, Okay, so I'm still fresh to him because
Speaker 1: I just started looking at him. But Eli Rix, I'm
Speaker 1: glad you brought that up. Is a guy that I
Speaker 1: just started school. I don't really know a whole much
Speaker 1: about him yet I'm asking you guys like, well, good, no,
Speaker 1: it's a really good name. And it's funny when when
Speaker 1: you guys start talking about the A and M kid,
Speaker 1: I add my Eli Ricks notes up out of Alabama
Speaker 1: at Alabama. This guy's six two one eight is where. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he went to school at LSU. Was a transfer from
Speaker 1: LSU to to Alabama. And you know he I'll tell
Speaker 1: you what, man, he is one of those guys that
Speaker 1: you got to try and figure him out because there's
Speaker 1: some really there's some for his size, there's some quickness
Speaker 1: to his game, the way he reacts. He is an
Speaker 1: outstanding job and not allowing the receiver inside on him
Speaker 1: on the slant. And I always and Biemer's doing us
Speaker 1: a favor here with some highlights up. If you're watching
Speaker 1: this on your devices and stuff, Eli Ricks. One of
Speaker 1: the things if you are a corner and I see
Speaker 1: you covering guys on the slant and knocking the ball
Speaker 1: down just like we just saw right there, you're my guy,
Speaker 1: because that's the hardest thing to defend when you get
Speaker 1: receivers on those inbreaking cuts and you could play the
Speaker 1: ball well like that. This game you're watching right there,
Speaker 1: if you want to start a game with him. The
Speaker 1: Mississippi State game was one of his best games that
Speaker 1: he had on tape. Sidney Brown is climbing. I've mentioned
Speaker 1: him before. I think his nickel ability really is gonna
Speaker 1: have some people looking at him in the second or
Speaker 1: a third because that's I mean, that's kind of what
Speaker 1: a lot of people are going too now. And he
Speaker 1: has flexibility to play on the outside of the inside.
Speaker 1: He's sneaky. He's sneaky getting behind just sneak. I just
Speaker 1: think he's sneaky period. You don't see him a lot
Speaker 1: of the time, and coverage, maybe you do decide to
Speaker 1: move into free save years on them that I don't
Speaker 1: know one other one other name that I just want
Speaker 1: to throw out there, Darius Rush, Yeah, so let's go.
Speaker 1: Dame Brugler brought him up at the combine when he
Speaker 1: was on our show and we were talking about him.
Speaker 1: He was impressive at the combine four three six forty
Speaker 1: came right out out after it. He's not great over
Speaker 1: the top, but his speed makes me think he can
Speaker 1: get there. There is a couple times on tape where
Speaker 1: he gets up some space, especially on the vertical routes.
Speaker 1: He's going down the sideline, he plays the outside corner spot,
Speaker 1: he travels, he plays both sides of the field. I
Speaker 1: think he's really he's a project. So day two perfect, Yeah,
Speaker 1: because he's got hurted receiver and exactly he was converted
Speaker 1: from receiver after two years and they play two years
Speaker 1: of corner. Think of anybody across the building that did
Speaker 1: that right feed in his play and when you talk
Speaker 1: about guys breaking on balls and stuff like that, he
Speaker 1: has that same he has. Yeah, we're talking Darius one. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I was thinking, Man, if you could get him pick
Speaker 1: ninety in the third round, I'd be in heaven there
Speaker 1: because he runs the routes better than the receiver does.
Speaker 1: He can tell what's coming. And I think the the
Speaker 1: the ceiling, you look at the upside for this guy, Brian,
Speaker 1: I know, sometimes we gotta we gotta go ahead and describe.
Speaker 1: But so the ceiling is, you know, how good can
Speaker 1: this guy potentially become? The floor is He's a safe
Speaker 1: pick basically, But I think Darius Rush his best football's
Speaker 1: ahead of him. Rush is a guy who you watched Rush.
Speaker 1: I have you have not watched Rush? Okay? I think
Speaker 1: he gets beat off the line of scrimmage way too often. Okay,
Speaker 1: Like I mean, anybody who throws an exotic release at him,
Speaker 1: he gets beat. And I think double moves give him problems.
Speaker 1: If we're talking about comparisons, you're sure, yeah, because he's
Speaker 1: a little raw. I mean, if you're not wrong, I
Speaker 1: mean there's there's definitely some things he needs to work on.
Speaker 1: And uh, let's go about the evaluation of the players
Speaker 1: back to Rix. Uh, A lot of teams doing homework
Speaker 1: on him off the field. Yeah, the field, I knowed it,
Speaker 1: Like when I started have you have you guys ever
Speaker 1: started watching a player and then I don't know, Sometimes
Speaker 1: your intuition tells you like every time I started wanting
Speaker 1: to watch, what is that not true? There's still our
Speaker 1: guy here? So you had this spider sense about some
Speaker 1: with ricks, well, I mean somebody I've been told by
Speaker 1: people that was not I didn't have any intuition I have,
Speaker 1: but that was I'll give you something. I'll give you
Speaker 1: something about the kid. His mom super involved to that point.
Speaker 1: That's that's working out really well for NFL players. Yeah, Mom,
Speaker 1: is mom is super super involved and might be thinking
Speaker 1: that he should be a first overall pick. How about that?
Speaker 1: Does that that help you? Number one? That's yeah, that's
Speaker 1: his family. I mean, it's a it's a very demanding
Speaker 1: family on anywhere he goes. So he's following in the
Speaker 1: other elis the Ravens out for taking Eli Ricks? Then yeah,
Speaker 1: I think that one's out too, all right, Tim? Tim
Speaker 1: asked on Twitter. He said McCarthy said he wants to
Speaker 1: run the football. I think that's false. What if the
Speaker 1: following players wrong? What of the what of the following
Speaker 1: players do you think would help the Cowboys run game
Speaker 1: most at twenty six? So they're gonna say Bijan's off
Speaker 1: the board? Would it be Gibbs out of Alabama? Darnell
Speaker 1: Washington from Georgia. That's a good, that's a good that's
Speaker 1: a good thought right there. Or the offensive guards either
Speaker 1: Osiris Torrance from Florida or Steve a Vila from TCU.
Speaker 1: Which one of those four would help you run the
Speaker 1: ball better at twenty six? Take a tackle? Yes, Darnel Washington,
Speaker 1: I'm asking, I'm asking you're taking an extra tackle? No,
Speaker 1: I mean, but in the state of what like looking
Speaker 1: at we've all starts to look at these guards? Yeah,
Speaker 1: are you pushing it? If you get I mean, besides
Speaker 1: Osirius like Villa, is you consider him a first rounder?
Speaker 1: I've got he's on the customer. I think. I don't
Speaker 1: think at twenty six. I don't think that's a terrible
Speaker 1: would be terrible? Okay, that's fine, But are the tackles better? Wait?
Speaker 1: Are you are you? Are you stumping for Washington right now?
Speaker 1: Who's playing tackle? But like who who? Who? Would where
Speaker 1: would they step in at? If you get a tackle,
Speaker 1: if you get a tackle, you're that rookie's playing tackle
Speaker 1: and Tyler's playing guard. I'm out on Tyler Smith moving inside.
Speaker 1: That's that Tyler Smith is the traits. They are so
Speaker 1: rare and were looked so much better at tackle as
Speaker 1: opposed to guard last year. Yeah, to that question, I
Speaker 1: wouldn't want to move. I would if we're talking about
Speaker 1: taking a tackle and it's at the expense of moving
Speaker 1: Tyler Smith inside, I don't want to do it. But
Speaker 1: these guards, But you think that you think Osiris and
Speaker 1: a Villa are good enough to plug in a guard
Speaker 1: day one? Yeah, I think they could. They could serve
Speaker 1: for you, I think, I think, yeah, I think they
Speaker 1: both could. I would actually I might prefer a Velo
Speaker 1: over Torrance. Boom boom. I don't think you're alone. I
Speaker 1: don't think you're alone, not alone. I don't think I'm
Speaker 1: alone under this roof. I agree. No, I mean, what
Speaker 1: are you trying to say? Are you going to get
Speaker 1: a text message? Here? No? No, no, no, here's here? Like, uh,
Speaker 1: you want to comp on a vila? Not super but
Speaker 1: more athletic ron Leary oh tatize role speaking highly. I
Speaker 1: think both of them have a little Leary in their games.
Speaker 1: But I'm with you, I mean, you're not at all.
Speaker 1: I would take either of those guys at twenty six,
Speaker 1: and I think that's plug and play. You can start
Speaker 1: them both at left guard, and let's let's let anybody
Speaker 1: go to work. Anybody, anybody insers in that massive tight
Speaker 1: end at Georgia when you first said, who's the guy
Speaker 1: that will impact you the most, they're at twenty six.
Speaker 1: Gibs is good. Gibbs is good at Alabama. Yeah, gives,
Speaker 1: he is. Gives. He's damn good at Albam. He's gonna
Speaker 1: be an all pro. He's gonna end up in a
Speaker 1: really good system because he is gonna be drafted late
Speaker 1: in the first round that he'll be an all pro sometime.
Speaker 1: I personally, i'd rather take John Michael Schmidtz than either
Speaker 1: of those guys, But you I don't know. I don't
Speaker 1: know that the Cowboys will do that. But I think
Speaker 1: John Michael Schmitts is better than Torrance and that's fair.
Speaker 1: So if it's give me John Michael Schmittz any day
Speaker 1: of the week, he's gonna kill it. If it's a boy,
Speaker 1: he might kill it. I like him. He's a good player.
Speaker 1: To the specific question of which one of these helps
Speaker 1: the running game most, now you're good. Probably the guard, Yeah,
Speaker 1: the guard. The guard more than Washington, more than Gibbs.
Speaker 1: That's why I was getting it, because if you're telling
Speaker 1: me like a running back at the first round that
Speaker 1: I'm assuming we're talking maybe like third round for a guard,
Speaker 1: or you're talking about pick a guard in the first
Speaker 1: round or something like that, and then you're picking a
Speaker 1: running back in the third. I think the drop off
Speaker 1: to guard in the third as opposed to drop off
Speaker 1: to running back and completely agree much steeper. We just
Speaker 1: talked about spirit, We just talked about spears, from two lane.
Speaker 1: I mean we were all we were jumping up and
Speaker 1: down like we were cheerleaders. Yeah, I'll say, you kid
Speaker 1: in a candy store over here. All right, let's take
Speaker 1: our second break. When we come back, we're gonna talk
Speaker 1: about Mazzy Smith in or out at twenty six and
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Speaker 1: brought us Sack Walchuck Ayesha Morrison up Kyle moments. You
Speaker 1: had a question about Mazzy Smith. Why or why not?
Speaker 1: At twenty six? I had I counted twelve twitter on
Speaker 1: the twenty questions about our guy. Well, that's what's coming
Speaker 1: down to. People are trying to figure out which one
Speaker 1: of these one techniques could be the guy that they take.
Speaker 1: I don't know if they would do that, but I'm
Speaker 1: trying to figure out would Mazzy Smith be the guy
Speaker 1: that they bucked the trend on there? So would you
Speaker 1: do it at twenty six? I probably wouldn't. Okay, I
Speaker 1: probably wouldn't. Why is that because I got other guys
Speaker 1: I think that are better myself. And I feel like,
Speaker 1: though when I looked at my board and stuff with
Speaker 1: with Mozzi Smith, though I like the kid from I
Speaker 1: like the kid from Wisconsin better. Oh, I mean I
Speaker 1: like Benton better. I just do. And you know, and
Speaker 1: I could be way wrong about that. It's nothing against
Speaker 1: Mazzy Smith because for a big guy, he moves pretty well.
Speaker 1: There's nothing flashy about him at all. But you know
Speaker 1: that he's a dirty work a guy. And you know,
Speaker 1: I think when you look at his athletic ability for
Speaker 1: a man's size, it is rare. But he comes off
Speaker 1: the ball, he's gonna be a load to handle when
Speaker 1: he's working one on one. And but there's I mean,
Speaker 1: all the stuff you're gonna get pass rush wise is
Speaker 1: just push with power and stuff like that. He can
Speaker 1: be a little bit disruptive. But I just feel like
Speaker 1: though to me that Benton would be a little bit
Speaker 1: better choice because I think you could do more with
Speaker 1: him than you can with Massy Smith. But Mossie Smith
Speaker 1: is a good player, just not very flashy. It depends
Speaker 1: on what you want well as far as Mossy goes.
Speaker 1: To me, it just depends on what the team is
Speaker 1: looking for. If you not can he. I know people
Speaker 1: have talked about like, is he going to develop some
Speaker 1: pass rushability? Is as something you see in his game? Sure,
Speaker 1: I guess you can say that if you really look
Speaker 1: at him. But what he does well, which I think
Speaker 1: that you should bring him in to do well, is
Speaker 1: to just stop the run. I mean, he's at the
Speaker 1: bottom of every pile. He's just that dude, right. So
Speaker 1: to me, it just depends on what your team want.
Speaker 1: Do you want some pass rushability from the middle the
Speaker 1: defense or you don't care about that. You are your
Speaker 1: edge rushers dominant enough to where you're not looking for that.
Speaker 1: So I don't think that he would be somebody that
Speaker 1: they would pick. You can give you a little wiggle
Speaker 1: in the middle. I think you can too. But what
Speaker 1: I'm going to ask is is right back along your
Speaker 1: line of thinking, because it goes back to scheme versus
Speaker 1: a player. Are you picking the guy to fit into
Speaker 1: your scheme and fit into your current system, or are
Speaker 1: you picking the best player available. If you're picking miss
Speaker 1: Smith at twenty six, it's very likely you're picking a
Speaker 1: guy for your scheme because he would fit here in
Speaker 1: a heartbeat. They need a big stopper in the middle.
Speaker 1: They need a run stuff or they need somebody who's
Speaker 1: going to take up multiple gaps and allow those edge
Speaker 1: rushers to get free, allow those three techniques like Osakizhua
Speaker 1: to get free. Would you do that at twenty six
Speaker 1: or do you think they would do that at twenty
Speaker 1: six because they haven't done that in a while. Go
Speaker 1: back to well, you have to go back to Kelvin Pritchard,
Speaker 1: I think at nineteen I mean him and yeah, the
Speaker 1: defensive tack they can and it real quick. And I'll
Speaker 1: get to your part of it in your notes. When
Speaker 1: you guys went back and watch this player, how did
Speaker 1: you think this guy finished? Okay, see I put I
Speaker 1: have that in my notes. Doesn't always finish plays when
Speaker 1: he's in position to break down and make a stop. See.
Speaker 1: That's the thing about it is if I'm gonna have
Speaker 1: a guy that's doing dirty work just holding up blocks,
Speaker 1: I'm cool. But you know we did see it with Hankins.
Speaker 1: You do see finish, you know, you do see if
Speaker 1: you're gonna hold up Like when the Hankins made a
Speaker 1: saving play in a game a fourth and one and
Speaker 1: he trips, I mean, he's it's when he ripped his
Speaker 1: you know, when he got hurt, when he hurt his peck.
Speaker 1: He's making a play where he's fighting off a block
Speaker 1: and then tripping a guy in fourth and one with
Speaker 1: Manzi Smith. You do see him make plays, but then
Speaker 1: there's other times where it's not. It's not and you're
Speaker 1: like thinking, he's there, he should make He's there again,
Speaker 1: he should make that play. He's there again. You know.
Speaker 1: That's the thing that I kind of was. I think
Speaker 1: he's a really really good player. I do. I just
Speaker 1: wish did he finished better when got when gets opportunities.
Speaker 1: He's got really impressive size. He's a like, I mean,
Speaker 1: he's a freak athlete for how big he is. And
Speaker 1: that's why it's so discouraging to me how frequently he
Speaker 1: seems to lose the gap, which it's not like all
Speaker 1: the time, but it happens way more than it should
Speaker 1: with his size, and so that's a big thing. And
Speaker 1: the other thing just in as a rule, I don't
Speaker 1: want to take two down players in the first round,
Speaker 1: and I think he's a two down player. Why I
Speaker 1: don't care how good Jordan Davis was, I wouldn't I
Speaker 1: didn't want Jordan Davis last year. I don't know if
Speaker 1: I agree on Jordan Davis, but I see what your
Speaker 1: thought process is. Jordan Davis, by the way, thirteen games
Speaker 1: last year, finished the season with zero quarterback hits. That's
Speaker 1: the player you get. And I don't want to take
Speaker 1: that at twenty six, just like I don't want to
Speaker 1: take the strength power is the focus on the edge
Speaker 1: like that kind of player. I want somebody who's going
Speaker 1: to impact the passing game with the pressures and the
Speaker 1: sacks and stuff like. That's well, and he brought up
Speaker 1: with a Cowboys draft. Then will you look at Dan
Speaker 1: Quinn and what he's done um drafting or his imprint
Speaker 1: you can sell he's had on the draft this last
Speaker 1: couple of years. You look at a Neville Gallimore, that
Speaker 1: guy wei has some pass rushability. You look at Olso
Speaker 1: Diggi Zua, he has some pass rushability. You look at
Speaker 1: Um quiet As Cup Chauncey Ghoston he has somehow created Yeah,
Speaker 1: and to what is relevant to this draft right now,
Speaker 1: which is nuts to me because I totally forgot that
Speaker 1: they did draft Chauncey ghost as a as a edge
Speaker 1: and he was the power I'll stop the run guy yeah,
Speaker 1: exactly put size on him. Yeah, last year where he
Speaker 1: literally fits the mold of what a lot of the
Speaker 1: good dts or pass rushing dts in this lage point.
Speaker 1: So I wonder if that changes whether you decide because
Speaker 1: he's on the uptick. It looked like, so I want
Speaker 1: to have to change. Do you decide if you want
Speaker 1: to go down now? Because you already got like, you
Speaker 1: know what. It's funny because and I know Bohanna was
Speaker 1: a sixth round pick, Yeah, but he's done nothing for you. Really,
Speaker 1: I mean if you and you're talking about it, and
Speaker 1: I'm not saying Mozzi Smith is, but you mean, I
Speaker 1: think when you watch Bohannah play at Kentucky, because I
Speaker 1: remember watching jam And Davis the linebacker, yeah, and feeling
Speaker 1: like every play that Davis made was because Bohannah was
Speaker 1: like kind of you know, ninety five was not getting
Speaker 1: turned and all that stuff like that. I felt like
Speaker 1: that Bohanna has played better at Kentucky than he has
Speaker 1: for the Dallas Cowboy. Yeah. I would agree with that.
Speaker 1: But the thing about Monzi Smith that's a little bit
Speaker 1: different is that his athleticism is higher than Bohanna. Briannah
Speaker 1: was a trash game full of dirty. He's a big
Speaker 1: guy that's going to take up space. Smith can at
Speaker 1: least have a little bit of athleticism to him. The
Speaker 1: one thing I didn't like, and this goes to Bobby's point,
Speaker 1: the one knock I had was motor. He does not
Speaker 1: have that high motor and I think that goes to
Speaker 1: the finish ability. I don't think he can really finish through.
Speaker 1: Is that something that can change? Though? Can you change
Speaker 1: that with the right coaching staff, with a dan Quinn
Speaker 1: led staff to where he's that you've been on aiden dirty?
Speaker 1: I think dirty? Yeah, dirty, I think and dirty. I
Speaker 1: think that you uh, I think you have to bet
Speaker 1: on that with what they're able to do with these linemen,
Speaker 1: I do. That's why when they go and work out
Speaker 1: of van Ness or somebody like that, and I'm sitting
Speaker 1: there like, man, I don't see it. I don't see it,
Speaker 1: and you're starting to think, wait a minute, if he
Speaker 1: comes here, these are the guys that are gonna help.
Speaker 1: These are the guys that, yeah, that part of it
Speaker 1: does help me mentally, you know. With when you start
Speaker 1: talking about these players, Bobby, do you have a why
Speaker 1: or why not name available? Do you have anybody that's
Speaker 1: that you're on the fence about that you want to
Speaker 1: throw out there before we get going. I like the player,
Speaker 1: but I struggle with how he fits in the modern NFL.
Speaker 1: And we've talked about himself and how he fits at
Speaker 1: the evolution the position, and that's Michael Mayer from Notre Dame. Okay,
Speaker 1: let's talk about him. It's like, I really think he's
Speaker 1: a good player. I think he does everything well, but
Speaker 1: it's one of those things where it's like, Okay, this
Speaker 1: is great, You're you're solid across the board, But to me,
Speaker 1: it's like, does that fit in the modern view of
Speaker 1: what you're supposed to do? It tight end these days,
Speaker 1: Like it feels like a lot of the reasons why
Speaker 1: Dalton Schultz probably isn't here anymore is because he couldn't
Speaker 1: do certain things that I feel like Michael Mayer can't
Speaker 1: do either, And so I have issues with him because
Speaker 1: I know he's a good player. I don't have any
Speaker 1: doubt that he'll be a good player at the next level.
Speaker 1: I just don't know that he's the right player for
Speaker 1: this era at the position. Yeah, I think that I
Speaker 1: wrote down respectfully. I think that I wrote down, can
Speaker 1: do it all, but don't wow wow me with nothing
Speaker 1: could start? Yeah, could starts, jack of all trades, master
Speaker 1: of none. He's powerful, he can start. Yeah. Is he
Speaker 1: is very much so? That's a that's a good Compactually
Speaker 1: he very much so. Is the like the standard tight
Speaker 1: end that like, yeah, he can do everything or whatever.
Speaker 1: But even when you see him test and stuff like,
Speaker 1: there's not that explosiveness. Even when he catches the ball.
Speaker 1: You see him catch the ball, and he's catching the ball,
Speaker 1: then he's going It's not like one fluid movement. And
Speaker 1: I just think the tight end position, like you're saying Bobby,
Speaker 1: is evolving in a way that I'm not sure. I
Speaker 1: think it matters when it's not. Yeah, it's not quite
Speaker 1: as clean and smooth as a kincaide or a must rave.
Speaker 1: But man, I do like Michael Mayer one, you can
Speaker 1: plug a man. He's gonna be productive. But is he
Speaker 1: going to You're gonna look across the pond and see
Speaker 1: another tiny getting busy catching one hand and balls and
Speaker 1: have a yak ability and whatever. Y Well, that was
Speaker 1: the downfall. That was the downfall of slow that guy
Speaker 1: down in the open field. Man, I mean hard to
Speaker 1: tackling yack is two different ice. For he's yeah, he's
Speaker 1: got yak more so than a Dalton Schultz does. I
Speaker 1: would agree with that, but that's not hard to do it. Man.
Speaker 1: You guys got me super nervous about this guy. You
Speaker 1: think he's no no no I I because to me,
Speaker 1: I have him is tied end one. And the way
Speaker 1: you describe it, and looking at my notes and stuff
Speaker 1: like that, you know, there's things about him that makes
Speaker 1: him just pretty ordinary. Is a tight end? Yeah, you know.
Speaker 1: And then if you read the other notes when you're
Speaker 1: talking about Musgrave and others that we you know, that
Speaker 1: we've that we've you know, visited on, it doesn't sound
Speaker 1: is nice. And like what we're playing modern football with
Speaker 1: the krusty scout here, guys like, oh man, this guy's steady,
Speaker 1: soft hands, drags underneath, catches, the ball gets up the
Speaker 1: field looks pretty good in the red zone. But you're right,
Speaker 1: the modern tight end is the one that is causing
Speaker 1: defensive coordinators nightmares exactly. And I and Michael Mayer for
Speaker 1: being tight in one. For me, that's the question I
Speaker 1: have is that is he that nightmare guy? I graded
Speaker 1: a pretty steady, reliable player, but maybe in this day
Speaker 1: and age, you need to play with a lot more
Speaker 1: than that. He's really good, he's but I mean it's like, uh,
Speaker 1: it's like comparing and these are obviously Hall of famers
Speaker 1: on a different sport, but it's like comparing like a
Speaker 1: Tim Duncan power forward versus like a dirt power forward,
Speaker 1: and what they can do and the matchup problems they
Speaker 1: present where fundamentally sound across the board. He's strong, but
Speaker 1: it's like, is that the way you win today? Which
Speaker 1: is why I got Kincaid is the number one tight
Speaker 1: end over him? I have Kincaid number one, may or
Speaker 1: number two, must Grave number three. That's where I have.
Speaker 1: If you got a young quarterback, Yeah, you guys, you guys,
Speaker 1: you guys are right about them. It's the downfall of
Speaker 1: Dalton Sholds. Dalton Scholtz is a good tight end, but
Speaker 1: he was a replaceable tight end. That's why you didn't
Speaker 1: pay him that money. He's replaceable. But you went and
Speaker 1: got two guys last year, one of the fourth round.
Speaker 1: One is an undrafted free agent that are able to
Speaker 1: fill his production, or so they think. In this this system,
Speaker 1: is there a tight end at the top of the
Speaker 1: draft that is not so replaceable, that can come in
Speaker 1: and be special. That's that might be where you have
Speaker 1: the conversation of these three tight ends that are at
Speaker 1: least draftable. My hope is such Mayor goes off the
Speaker 1: board before the Cowboys pick. I have him right now, Brian,
Speaker 1: and no, no kidding, you can see it right here.
Speaker 1: I have him at number twenty six board. So he's
Speaker 1: at twenty six right now. If you let go, if
Speaker 1: you let go of Dalton shows he don't make sense. Yeah, respectfully, no,
Speaker 1: I completely agree. Yea, all right tomorrow, Brian, you could
Speaker 1: take him off the board before the Cowboys get to
Speaker 1: draft tomorrow, full first round one through thirty two. We're
Speaker 1: gonna do a full first round mock draft tomorrow. So
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a whole lot of fun. Get your
Speaker 1: team needs ready, we'll get you at ten am tomorrow
Speaker 1: Central time is when we're gonna go trade, Beamer. Do
Speaker 1: you want to do trade now? That's that's okay, we
Speaker 1: can talk. It's gonna open, do it later. We'll do
Speaker 1: it later. Why did you say ten o'clock? Am that
Speaker 1: to me? Yeah? News to me too. But I'm going
Speaker 1: to relay what Bamer says. So they got it here,
Speaker 1: all right, let's do it. We'll be back tomorrow with
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