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Speaker 1: within the confines of Cowboys Headquarters at the Star in Frisco,

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Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys and now your host, Kyle Yeomans. Today is Wednesday,

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Speaker 1: March twenty second, and we are officially thirty six days

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Speaker 1: away from the NFL Draft, just over a month away.

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Speaker 1: As we welcome you into the Draft Show presented by

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Speaker 1: Miller Lite. Here from the Star in Frisco in the

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Speaker 1: s WBC studios, it's Miller time and it's also draft time.

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Speaker 1: We've got the entire crew back in the building. We've

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Speaker 1: got Bobby phil We've got Brian Broadness, Zach Walchuk, Aisha Morrison,

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Speaker 1: I'm Kyle Yeoman's everybody, how are we doing? You said

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Speaker 1: thirty six days? Thirty six days? Y'all got to stop

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Speaker 1: saying the number. I'm excited to stop saying it out now.

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Speaker 1: You know what's cool is you're starting to see these

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Speaker 1: pro days. They're starting to kind of wind down and

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Speaker 1: then the top one. So what got Ohio State rolling today?

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Speaker 1: And you got a man. I've seen a lot of

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Speaker 1: a lot of tweets of coaches doing these workouts, Cowboy

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Speaker 1: coaches doing these workouts. So out at USC Ohio State,

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Speaker 1: I mean dan Quinn making the Tripsowa, Iowa. He went, yeah,

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Speaker 1: he did that Midwest tour for you and got him

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Speaker 1: rolling along. So yeah, No, it's it's uh, before long,

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Speaker 1: this free agency thing is gonna be over. And it's

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Speaker 1: these guys and gals are gonna push into these rooms

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Speaker 1: and they're gonna start putting boards together. And that's cool,

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Speaker 1: when isn't it. Well, it's gonna it's gonna But for

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Speaker 1: the teams. For the teams, they're gonna stop, they're gonna

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Speaker 1: stop looking at guys. They're gonna start looking at college guys.

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Speaker 1: That's what they're gonna do. And filling the whole is

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Speaker 1: where that's I mean. Right now, you're trying to build

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Speaker 1: your roster and then the draft you can fill the

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Speaker 1: holes and you can build that young nucleus. I think

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys. I was talking to a buddy of mine

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Speaker 1: set themselves up great to do what they're really good at,

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Speaker 1: and that's draft. That's draft yet players. And so to me,

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Speaker 1: if you're a Cowboy fan, you got to be excited

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Speaker 1: about what your team did because they they're using the

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Speaker 1: compensed Tory picks to trade to grab some guys. Talk

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Speaker 1: to my scout buddies around the league. They got guys

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Speaker 1: that can actually play. Heck yeah, Cooks and Gilmore. So

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Speaker 1: it kind of keeps them really open. It makes it

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Speaker 1: fun for us there in the draft show because it

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Speaker 1: is so open. Really at twenty six, you know you're

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Speaker 1: gonna get into like you can. We'll be on that

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Speaker 1: first night and those names will start coming off that

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Speaker 1: I'll take that guy. I'll take that guy. Yeah. We

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Speaker 1: can sit back and really just enjoy falling to twenty six. Absolutely,

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Speaker 1: let's talk about some of the moves that they have

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Speaker 1: at twenty six at this point because of some of

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Speaker 1: these moves. Since the last time we were on the air,

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Speaker 1: Cowboys traded a fifth round draft pick, the compensatory pick,

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Speaker 1: as Brian mentioned, to Indianapolis for a corner Stefan Gilmore

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Speaker 1: excuse me, released Ezekiel Elliott. They agreed the terms on

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Speaker 1: and then they resigned c J. Goodwin did so with

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Speaker 1: and then a sixth round pick next year. So you've

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Speaker 1: But Bobby, now you look at it and you don't

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Speaker 1: They use this month to knock out their needs and

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Speaker 1: have contingencies in place so that if it doesn't fall

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Speaker 1: I think that's what Will really is interested in doing.

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Speaker 1: He's trying to make sure that, like he doesn't, like

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Speaker 1: feels different than it has to me in past years

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Speaker 1: with the caliber of gentlemen that they're bringing in here

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Speaker 1: to replace those guys before the draft. Yeah, I mean

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Speaker 1: who are they traded for? It? Probably somebody I've never

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Speaker 1: Cooks deal. That was something they were trying to get done.

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Speaker 1: Cooks also adds the speed element which you've been lacking.

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Speaker 1: low compics, I think it's fantastic team building by the Cowboys.

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Speaker 1: It's not even just the insurance policy anymore, at least

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Speaker 1: Four names with C. J. Strout Ohio State, Bryce Young Alabama,

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Speaker 1: Those are my four names. Stroud, Young, Levis, Richardson would

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Speaker 1: honestly believe you would take them. A guy lost his

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Speaker 1: Sure your board, your your your board is not true

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Speaker 1: to who you are. It'd be fascinating if one slid.

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Speaker 1: We kind to saw that a couple of years ago

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Speaker 1: He's might have to just I'm just wire? Why not?

427
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Speaker 1: Why no? It doesn't have to be at twenty six wire?

428
00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:31,720
Speaker 1: Why yeah, i'd wire? Why not? Would you take the

429
00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:33,680
Speaker 1: guy that makes me feel better? Yeah? No, I'm not

430
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Speaker 1: taking him in the first round, But but I think

431
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Speaker 1: I'd have that conversation at fifty eight a lot like

432
00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:40,440
Speaker 1: the Cowboys did with Tolbert last year. I think people

433
00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:43,119
Speaker 1: are worried about Marvin Mims because of the size. You know,

434
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Speaker 1: if he plays outside, see guy that's going to be

435
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Speaker 1: able to get off press coverage. I think he's so

436
00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:50,639
Speaker 1: crafty and he's so quick with his technique and his

437
00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:54,720
Speaker 1: speed and quickness that he's gonna be fine. You know.

438
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Speaker 1: I think he's a guy you can move around all

439
00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:59,520
Speaker 1: over the formation. He's a big play guy for being

440
00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:03,080
Speaker 1: may maybe a five eleven smaller receiver. He plays big.

441
00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:05,280
Speaker 1: He'll high point the football, he'll go up and get

442
00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:07,359
Speaker 1: it the body, the way he's able to contort his

443
00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:10,000
Speaker 1: body in the air track the football. He's also a

444
00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:11,640
Speaker 1: guy that I think is gonna fit really well within

445
00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:14,680
Speaker 1: the Cowboys offense. Think about the West Coast scheme. Get

446
00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:16,840
Speaker 1: him the ball and move in space on the run,

447
00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:19,920
Speaker 1: let him go make plays. I think Marvin Mims to me,

448
00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:22,760
Speaker 1: has the chance to be one of the best receivers

449
00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:25,520
Speaker 1: in this draft class outside of the size, which I

450
00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:27,760
Speaker 1: agree with you completely because I mean, you and I

451
00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:31,000
Speaker 1: have watched Marvin for for years now. But with his size,

452
00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:34,240
Speaker 1: he plays bigger. What's another knock to his game. I

453
00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:36,920
Speaker 1: think she's got it. Huh No, I was just I

454
00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:41,720
Speaker 1: was what Asha laying on us see the twinkle in

455
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Speaker 1: the eye. No, I mean because you brought up tober

456
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Speaker 1: and I So my question to you guys about Marvin

457
00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:50,960
Speaker 1: Mims is, are you worried about are you worried about

458
00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:53,440
Speaker 1: his his route tree, him knowing the whole that was

459
00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:57,480
Speaker 1: my knock took. He needs a little bit more added

460
00:21:57,520 --> 00:22:00,080
Speaker 1: onto there because he's only done. I mean, he's his

461
00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:03,320
Speaker 1: vertical game and then underneath that's about it does question though,

462
00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:07,760
Speaker 1: right a knock like I'm just right, I'm saying it's

463
00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:10,240
Speaker 1: more an unknown I don't know that it's a legitimate Kno,

464
00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:12,200
Speaker 1: it's a coachable thing, right right, well, and it's just

465
00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:14,400
Speaker 1: something we don't know, yeh. Like you know, there's been

466
00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:16,879
Speaker 1: questions before about like when Josh Allen got to the NFL.

467
00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:19,560
Speaker 1: They didn't know about Josh Allen's whiteboard work, they didn't

468
00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:21,159
Speaker 1: know about Mahomes. Mahomes was another one. There were a

469
00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:23,560
Speaker 1: lot of teams that felt like, Okay, we don't necessarily

470
00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:26,320
Speaker 1: know what he's like because of the system that he ran,

471
00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:28,800
Speaker 1: So it's not necessarily it's just more of a question,

472
00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:30,800
Speaker 1: I guess, no doubt feel like that it's we don't

473
00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:33,399
Speaker 1: know the answer as opposed to this is something we've

474
00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:35,200
Speaker 1: seen on tape and it's a negative and it doesn't

475
00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:37,000
Speaker 1: look good. Well yeah, and then also too, I mean

476
00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:40,600
Speaker 1: he has the return ability. Sure brings that immediately, and

477
00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:43,320
Speaker 1: I think that's something that teams are definitely looking at.

478
00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:45,800
Speaker 1: That's an important part of things. I love his acceleration,

479
00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:47,800
Speaker 1: I like his quick release. Right, It's a lot I

480
00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:49,840
Speaker 1: like about him. And then if you talk about you

481
00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:51,800
Speaker 1: know what you're supposed to, what you're possibly doing in

482
00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:54,360
Speaker 1: this offense, he definitely is a guy you can set

483
00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:56,719
Speaker 1: him up. You can set him up to have success

484
00:22:56,800 --> 00:22:58,480
Speaker 1: in this in this offense if it is going to

485
00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:01,840
Speaker 1: go the way you're supposed to go. So, yeah, what

486
00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:04,399
Speaker 1: do you guys think about him? I mean the biggest

487
00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:08,160
Speaker 1: question for him would probably be I think they feel

488
00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:10,560
Speaker 1: comfortable with it. The original question I would have been

489
00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:12,680
Speaker 1: curious about with them would have been if they thought

490
00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:15,040
Speaker 1: he could play outside. Now that there was some of

491
00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:17,480
Speaker 1: it at Oklahoma, but there wasn't you know, there is

492
00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:19,879
Speaker 1: a question about whether that's where he could succeed at

493
00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:22,600
Speaker 1: the next level. I think as they're going through their values,

494
00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:26,240
Speaker 1: I think Dallas is potentially becoming more comfortable with the

495
00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:28,320
Speaker 1: idea that he could play around, and they just acquired

496
00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:30,080
Speaker 1: a guy who's a similar size. Brandon Cooks is five

497
00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:35,520
Speaker 1: weighs one hundred and eighty five pounds. If you want

498
00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:38,400
Speaker 1: to talk about knocks on mims, I don't know how

499
00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:42,960
Speaker 1: tight the route running always is um and I think

500
00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:49,360
Speaker 1: that if it's contested at all, it's tipping the defense's way.

501
00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:52,600
Speaker 1: There's not a lot of contested finishes. He's got his

502
00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:55,200
Speaker 1: his off the line of scrimmagees, releases are good. He's quick,

503
00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:57,160
Speaker 1: he's fast, he can get separation, do it all those things.

504
00:23:57,359 --> 00:23:59,880
Speaker 1: If a corner is on him, if a corner reads

505
00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:02,720
Speaker 1: him and stays on the route with him, that that's

506
00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:04,879
Speaker 1: pretty much game over for his round. How many corners

507
00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:07,119
Speaker 1: did he play in the Big twelve that were able

508
00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:09,960
Speaker 1: to do that? How many defensive players are in the

509
00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:13,120
Speaker 1: Big twelve period? That's what I kind of It's funny.

510
00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:15,280
Speaker 1: I was talking to somebody the other day and they

511
00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:17,080
Speaker 1: made reference that I had to look. I think it's

512
00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:20,240
Speaker 1: been we are the last five all pro teams haven't

513
00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:23,159
Speaker 1: had a single Big twelve player on defense. Wow. So

514
00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:25,400
Speaker 1: I mean that's a conference that's been hurting for defensive

515
00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:26,800
Speaker 1: players for a while about to get one picked in

516
00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:30,600
Speaker 1: the top ten this year, though, Kyrie Wilster Wilson cat

517
00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:32,159
Speaker 1: throw one more name out real quick. I know you

518
00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:34,720
Speaker 1: got Twitter on the twenty cabin up here, Twitter on

519
00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:38,600
Speaker 1: the thirty. Yeah, it's very flexible, fungible, as you'd like

520
00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:41,480
Speaker 1: to say in the radio world, Ty Jay spears the

521
00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:44,040
Speaker 1: running back from Tulane. What are you doing over? I

522
00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:46,119
Speaker 1: mean he's picking all my favorite guys. I'm in and

523
00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:48,560
Speaker 1: I'm just asking. Yeah, I'm I'm one hundred percent in

524
00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:51,359
Speaker 1: the third round. Man, I think that that can be

525
00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:53,960
Speaker 1: your future starter and you don't have to worry about it. Yep.

526
00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:57,000
Speaker 1: I think he can do everything for you. He's so electric.

527
00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:00,760
Speaker 1: I have I have an early fourth round grade on him.

528
00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:02,960
Speaker 1: But if he's there in the third, at late third,

529
00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:05,959
Speaker 1: I'm I'm taking him. Yeah. If if that's what they

530
00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:08,000
Speaker 1: feel comfortable with, if they go with it there, I'm

531
00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:09,720
Speaker 1: in because I think he's a playmaker. I think he

532
00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:11,720
Speaker 1: could be better than what I even had him grated

533
00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:15,080
Speaker 1: at on the fence. Win third round, third round, third round,

534
00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:18,399
Speaker 1: I'm in. Yeah, any earlier, anybody earlier than now. No, No,

535
00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:22,040
Speaker 1: we're not go Earl go for it. I consider it

536
00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:25,199
Speaker 1: in round two. I would at fifty eight. Yeah, well,

537
00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:27,800
Speaker 1: because he's the best player on the field. Every time

538
00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:30,360
Speaker 1: I watch you, you are getting a playmaker, like yeah,

539
00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:31,920
Speaker 1: and in a sense of like the way that you

540
00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:34,879
Speaker 1: talk about Tony Pollitter is like, yeah, just getting a

541
00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:38,120
Speaker 1: runner back, you getting a playmaker. And I think Taija

542
00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:41,200
Speaker 1: is a lineba a linebacker's worst night. Oh yes. And

543
00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:43,800
Speaker 1: so if you if you, if you can get favorable

544
00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:47,240
Speaker 1: matchups there, I think he could be. I don't know, Okay,

545
00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:49,640
Speaker 1: I prefer him. I prefer him in round three. Heck,

546
00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:51,200
Speaker 1: if you can get him in four, I would have

547
00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:52,879
Speaker 1: a party. You might have to go around early on

548
00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:55,080
Speaker 1: some of these cats. But but that's exactly what I'm thinking, Like,

549
00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:56,560
Speaker 1: if you got a guy that you really want, like

550
00:25:56,680 --> 00:26:02,200
Speaker 1: I would take Spears over Eh. Personally, I'm not there. Yeah,

551
00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:04,879
Speaker 1: I'm not there on that need to He didn't know

552
00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:08,320
Speaker 1: how that knee looks to spears? Yes, a cl Yes,

553
00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:12,760
Speaker 1: he's he's got some knee questions. Is that recent? That's

554
00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:15,240
Speaker 1: he's got some knee questions. People were wondering about it

555
00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:16,760
Speaker 1: not I don't know how it came out of any

556
00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:18,679
Speaker 1: but I know people were heading into Andy. Just Hey,

557
00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:20,880
Speaker 1: we'd like to look at the name. Interesting. I think

558
00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:24,320
Speaker 1: he's all right, are just fine in his last college

559
00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:28,879
Speaker 1: game plus against USC, So yeah, that's an interesting all right.

560
00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:30,800
Speaker 1: I've got a couple other names, but I'll we're gonna

561
00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:32,480
Speaker 1: save him for the third segment because I want to

562
00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:33,720
Speaker 1: go back to it. We're gonna get back through. I

563
00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:36,159
Speaker 1: want to hit Mossy Smith there too, because there were

564
00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:38,360
Speaker 1: a ton of Twitter on the twenty questions about him. Okay,

565
00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:39,879
Speaker 1: but I wanted to push it to the third segments.

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Speaker 1: I asked you a question about a particular player or

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613
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Speaker 1: an edge rusher. Yeah, but I'm watching I was watching

614
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Speaker 1: It's time for some Oh it was real quiet, but

621
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Speaker 1: it was there, It was there, It was really quiet.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's go with Mario. Yeah, let's go with Mario.

623
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Speaker 1: He says, are there any other spots on the roster

624
00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:49,000
Speaker 1: you'd like to see a dress before declaring this draft

625
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Speaker 1: a true and unbiased BPA draft. I think I think

626
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Speaker 1: they're there, though, is it already there? I think that's

627
00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:57,560
Speaker 1: that's part of the answer. Go get me a linebacker.

628
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Speaker 1: I need another line Okay, linebacker was the first thing

629
00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:03,320
Speaker 1: I thought of. And uh, I mean, I don't know

630
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Speaker 1: why we were sleeping on kickers, man, I mean, I mean, look,

631
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Speaker 1: not start, what are they gonna do a kicker? They're

632
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Speaker 1: gonna draft my guy, Jake Moody from Michigan in the

633
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Speaker 1: third round instead of Taje Spears for Zach Well, what

634
00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:16,640
Speaker 1: the heck? No? If it if it hadn't been our

635
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Speaker 1: guy from prosper last year. Then go to the Brown

636
00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:23,160
Speaker 1: feel like, yeah, wait, you say linebacker, right, you got

637
00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:26,760
Speaker 1: one in mine? Uh no, just I mean go find another.

638
00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:29,320
Speaker 1: It's I mean it honestly doesn't. That does me no

639
00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:31,400
Speaker 1: good right now. But I mean, if we're talking about

640
00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:34,680
Speaker 1: just we're talking about their contingencies should really go into

641
00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:36,360
Speaker 1: the draft. So if you're talking about laugh, no, just

642
00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:38,360
Speaker 1: go get me another veteran, bout it. You've lost Luke Gifford,

643
00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:40,640
Speaker 1: nobody's replaced him yet, and that was somebody who got

644
00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:42,040
Speaker 1: snaps for you in the second half. You still have

645
00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:44,920
Speaker 1: questions about Jabrille Cox demon Clark will see how he

646
00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:49,760
Speaker 1: you know, continues not wrong. There's always questions about vander

647
00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:53,200
Speaker 1: Esh's durability and Michael Parsons rushes a lot. So yeah,

648
00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:55,200
Speaker 1: you probably need to stick at least one more veteran

649
00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:57,920
Speaker 1: in here to really feel like you're covered heading into there,

650
00:30:58,040 --> 00:30:59,960
Speaker 1: I would have no chance you're getting They're not gonna

651
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:02,200
Speaker 1: They're not going to get Bobby Well. No, no, that's

652
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:04,080
Speaker 1: what you're thinking. I'm not saying wager. I'm talking about

653
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:06,320
Speaker 1: I mean goodness, Like when they signed Jasper Brinkley for

654
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:09,000
Speaker 1: Minnesota years going. That costs us a million five. But

655
00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:11,840
Speaker 1: I'm saying that in place, that's the kind of guy

656
00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:15,400
Speaker 1: you probably good or I think you guys mentioned on

657
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:21,160
Speaker 1: a radio the other day are signed are gone? Yeah

658
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:23,280
Speaker 1: he would have been. He would have been a great signing.

659
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:26,240
Speaker 1: Ceraly think they're completely out on Wagner. I really don't

660
00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:29,960
Speaker 1: think they're trust you think it's out, Yeah, I think.

661
00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:32,080
Speaker 1: I think in the next two weeks not I know

662
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:33,959
Speaker 1: you live in this I know you live in this building,

663
00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:36,840
Speaker 1: but I thinks can be fluid, things can change. Maybe

664
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:39,760
Speaker 1: maybe you got your ice, you know, depressions down. I

665
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:42,160
Speaker 1: do think a defensive tackle is the other one, and

666
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:45,200
Speaker 1: I'm really hopeful they bring back Hankins. He's dragging his

667
00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:49,600
Speaker 1: feet on your man, but hey, that's that's an areas

668
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:52,280
Speaker 1: they need to address de tackle. He made such a

669
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:56,080
Speaker 1: positive impact for them when they brought him in, you know,

670
00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:59,040
Speaker 1: keeping Layton vander Esch clean, keeping your line, but also

671
00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:00,360
Speaker 1: in the run game is while I think they do

672
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:02,680
Speaker 1: need to still address a big boy defensive tap. People

673
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:06,160
Speaker 1: ask me about a Shawan Robinson and I can't. I'm

674
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:07,960
Speaker 1: sorry I couldn't tell you and do it. Okay, I can't.

675
00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:09,760
Speaker 1: I mean no, no, no, I I got him up. Yes,

676
00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:11,880
Speaker 1: I mean to watch it. I need to watch him,

677
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:13,720
Speaker 1: is what I'm saying. I haven't seen him play in

678
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:16,640
Speaker 1: a while, I think, unless my son play was in Detroit. Yeah,

679
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:18,960
Speaker 1: so I'm you know, I'm I don't know about that.

680
00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:21,640
Speaker 1: Anybody gotta says, Bobby brought it up before we go

681
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:25,400
Speaker 1: to anybody got a linebacker in the first round? No, No,

682
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:28,720
Speaker 1: probably not, probably like that I would grade in the

683
00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:31,880
Speaker 1: first round. Yeah, yeah, Sanders You've got Sanders is a

684
00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:34,040
Speaker 1: first round Yeah, I think And I like the abletic

685
00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:37,600
Speaker 1: Sanders is really good local too. Kid. And I'm just

686
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:39,000
Speaker 1: throwing a name out here. You want to talk about

687
00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:42,840
Speaker 1: special teams, has defensive snaps. Personnel department knows him. Damian

688
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:46,080
Speaker 1: Wilson's a free agent. Okay, I'm saying that that kind

689
00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:48,600
Speaker 1: of a name, But like when you're talking about that's

690
00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:51,400
Speaker 1: the type of name I'm talking about adding, just like

691
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:53,400
Speaker 1: the way they signed Hi Dooga. It's the same. It's

692
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:55,040
Speaker 1: gonna the same kind of confident. Got you at it?

693
00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:58,640
Speaker 1: Just somebody in here at linebacker? All right? Will Stone asked,

694
00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:01,440
Speaker 1: y'all have done a great job down the top corners

695
00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:04,000
Speaker 1: in the draft, But could you break down some of

696
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:07,000
Speaker 1: the Day two guys, because of course cowboys going out

697
00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:09,840
Speaker 1: and getting stuff on Gilmore Corner at twenty six isn't

698
00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:13,680
Speaker 1: off the table completely, but it's less of a likable scenario.

699
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:17,960
Speaker 1: So where could some of these Day two guys be ranked?

700
00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:20,800
Speaker 1: Anybody have names that they like Day two corners, but

701
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:25,360
Speaker 1: Clark Phillips from Utah Okay, Yes, yeah, yeah, I consider

702
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:27,720
Speaker 1: Clark Phillips in the second round. He's a little bit smaller,

703
00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:30,520
Speaker 1: but super quick feet. That's what I worry about, Like

704
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:32,760
Speaker 1: the size is that going to be an issue because

705
00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:34,680
Speaker 1: he's one of the few that's not doesn't have the

706
00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:38,120
Speaker 1: length and is like a six foot two massive guy.

707
00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:40,280
Speaker 1: He's more of a compact build with good speedby you

708
00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:43,280
Speaker 1: watch it against Jordan Addison, that was some fun tape

709
00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:46,320
Speaker 1: to watch those two going back and forth, runs really well.

710
00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:48,800
Speaker 1: Can get lost in traffic a little bit. He got

711
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:50,680
Speaker 1: caught a few times when he was in man coverage

712
00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:52,880
Speaker 1: and he's got to run through the trash there. But

713
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:55,720
Speaker 1: he's a fun guy and he plays. He plays with

714
00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:58,760
Speaker 1: some chippiness, which I'm always looking forward with corners. DJ

715
00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:01,680
Speaker 1: Turner from Michigan. For me, is a guy that I

716
00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:04,600
Speaker 1: would really like to see and uh, I mean to me,

717
00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:07,000
Speaker 1: he's really I think he's a really could be a

718
00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:10,000
Speaker 1: really good nickel to start out with. He's a smaller guy.

719
00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:12,440
Speaker 1: Though he's five eleven, he's one hundred and seventy eight pounds.

720
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:15,080
Speaker 1: He did get a little bullied in the Michigan State

721
00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:17,960
Speaker 1: game where they're pushing off him. But other than that, man,

722
00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:20,759
Speaker 1: this guy is a hard guy to run away from.

723
00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:23,360
Speaker 1: I think he could play on either side of the field.

724
00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:26,279
Speaker 1: And you know, like I say that slot stuff. With

725
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:29,719
Speaker 1: his size, his movement, I mean, I think that he's

726
00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:32,120
Speaker 1: he's got a real shot to be a big time

727
00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:34,200
Speaker 1: player in this league. Did you tell me more about

728
00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:40,120
Speaker 1: Trevias Hodge Tomlinson. I have not seen him, I haven't.

729
00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:43,040
Speaker 1: I mean I watched him play in college, but I haven't.

730
00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:45,120
Speaker 1: I haven't done the deep dive when it comes to

731
00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:48,200
Speaker 1: the tape. Also maybe a size question there, But he's

732
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:52,319
Speaker 1: another guy that plays. I mean, he's aggressive. I think

733
00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:56,160
Speaker 1: he runs really well. Personally, he's intriguing. To me, his height,

734
00:34:56,640 --> 00:35:00,400
Speaker 1: arm and weight is all smaller than I anything. Will

735
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:02,480
Speaker 1: McClay has ever drafted. Yeah, it's probably why none of

736
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:04,120
Speaker 1: us have taken a look at him here. Oh yeah,

737
00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:06,919
Speaker 1: he'll he'll be here next Friday. If oh that's true.

738
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:09,799
Speaker 1: He's Dallas guys. There we go very nice. That's nice. Yeah,

739
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:12,880
Speaker 1: I mean they bring in the qualifiers, they bring in

740
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:15,120
Speaker 1: all their qualified like, I mean, that doesn't that doesn't

741
00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:18,160
Speaker 1: always indicate like super strong interest. It's to get a

742
00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:20,320
Speaker 1: closer look. I like Jalen Jones at Texas A and

743
00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:23,000
Speaker 1: m Okay, yeah, I think I think you're onto side.

744
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:25,440
Speaker 1: I think Jones when you talk now, the long speed's

745
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:28,279
Speaker 1: not there. Um, But I mean I feel like a

746
00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:32,480
Speaker 1: lot of his issues are just in need of coaching,

747
00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:36,400
Speaker 1: like technique issues and and things like that. But I

748
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:39,680
Speaker 1: think we talk about like the physicality, the natural instincts

749
00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:43,279
Speaker 1: I think are really good. The size is right up

750
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:48,480
Speaker 1: the dan Quinn two arms are a little short. But

751
00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:51,480
Speaker 1: the thing about him, I think this guy might be

752
00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:53,400
Speaker 1: I thought he might be a little bit of a

753
00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:56,880
Speaker 1: more better safety project because of his physical style. This

754
00:35:57,040 --> 00:35:59,840
Speaker 1: guy loves to hit. I mean, he loves to tackle.

755
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:03,680
Speaker 1: He's got I felt like the length that corner gives

756
00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:06,160
Speaker 1: him a little bit of some problems. You're right about that,

757
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:09,880
Speaker 1: but also said like with him is the ball skills.

758
00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:11,480
Speaker 1: When he gets his hands on the ball, I could

759
00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:14,520
Speaker 1: finish They'll line him up on both sides the field,

760
00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:17,840
Speaker 1: the toughness to size, I'll be My last line was

761
00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:20,160
Speaker 1: I'll be interested to see where NFL team's view in

762
00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:24,280
Speaker 1: this position. Wise, I think he is a perfect matchup

763
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:27,200
Speaker 1: for tight ends. Like if you're in a division where

764
00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:30,480
Speaker 1: you're playing against the Travis Kelcey's twice a year, I

765
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:32,480
Speaker 1: would take this guy and I'm gonna put him on

766
00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:34,160
Speaker 1: tight ends and I think he's going to cause them

767
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:37,120
Speaker 1: real problem. Because I'm with you. His body types interesting.

768
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:39,719
Speaker 1: He's kind of got like a linebacker build in his

769
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:41,640
Speaker 1: upper body and then it goes back to corner in

770
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:45,520
Speaker 1: the lower body. So I can see the safety traits there.

771
00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:48,120
Speaker 1: But it's just to me watch him. I was like, man,

772
00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:50,640
Speaker 1: I think he can match up well like we saw

773
00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:53,160
Speaker 1: with Byron Jones being able to cover tight ends. I

774
00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:54,800
Speaker 1: think he's really he can be a good player against

775
00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:57,919
Speaker 1: tight ends in the next level. What you got any names?

776
00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:01,879
Speaker 1: I mean, Okay, so I'm still fresh to him because

777
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:05,000
Speaker 1: I just started looking at him. But Eli Rix, I'm

778
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:06,759
Speaker 1: glad you brought that up. Is a guy that I

779
00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:09,399
Speaker 1: just started school. I don't really know a whole much

780
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:11,960
Speaker 1: about him yet I'm asking you guys like, well, good, no,

781
00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:14,560
Speaker 1: it's a really good name. And it's funny when when

782
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:16,480
Speaker 1: you guys start talking about the A and M kid,

783
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:19,200
Speaker 1: I add my Eli Ricks notes up out of Alabama

784
00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:22,359
Speaker 1: at Alabama. This guy's six two one eight is where. Yeah,

785
00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:24,200
Speaker 1: he went to school at LSU. Was a transfer from

786
00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:28,879
Speaker 1: LSU to to Alabama. And you know he I'll tell

787
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:31,080
Speaker 1: you what, man, he is one of those guys that

788
00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:33,399
Speaker 1: you got to try and figure him out because there's

789
00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:36,240
Speaker 1: some really there's some for his size, there's some quickness

790
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:38,960
Speaker 1: to his game, the way he reacts. He is an

791
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:41,880
Speaker 1: outstanding job and not allowing the receiver inside on him

792
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:44,719
Speaker 1: on the slant. And I always and Biemer's doing us

793
00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:46,799
Speaker 1: a favor here with some highlights up. If you're watching

794
00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:51,880
Speaker 1: this on your devices and stuff, Eli Ricks. One of

795
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:54,640
Speaker 1: the things if you are a corner and I see

796
00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:57,040
Speaker 1: you covering guys on the slant and knocking the ball

797
00:37:57,080 --> 00:37:59,920
Speaker 1: down just like we just saw right there, you're my guy,

798
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:02,719
Speaker 1: because that's the hardest thing to defend when you get

799
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:05,880
Speaker 1: receivers on those inbreaking cuts and you could play the

800
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:08,680
Speaker 1: ball well like that. This game you're watching right there,

801
00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:10,120
Speaker 1: if you want to start a game with him. The

802
00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:12,640
Speaker 1: Mississippi State game was one of his best games that

803
00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:16,280
Speaker 1: he had on tape. Sidney Brown is climbing. I've mentioned

804
00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:19,760
Speaker 1: him before. I think his nickel ability really is gonna

805
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:21,960
Speaker 1: have some people looking at him in the second or

806
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:24,600
Speaker 1: a third because that's I mean, that's kind of what

807
00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:26,279
Speaker 1: a lot of people are going too now. And he

808
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:28,720
Speaker 1: has flexibility to play on the outside of the inside.

809
00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:32,800
Speaker 1: He's sneaky. He's sneaky getting behind just sneak. I just

810
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:34,759
Speaker 1: think he's sneaky period. You don't see him a lot

811
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:37,040
Speaker 1: of the time, and coverage, maybe you do decide to

812
00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:38,719
Speaker 1: move into free save years on them that I don't

813
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:40,879
Speaker 1: know one other one other name that I just want

814
00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:45,200
Speaker 1: to throw out there, Darius Rush, Yeah, so let's go.

815
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:48,040
Speaker 1: Dame Brugler brought him up at the combine when he

816
00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:50,359
Speaker 1: was on our show and we were talking about him.

817
00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:53,000
Speaker 1: He was impressive at the combine four three six forty

818
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:55,359
Speaker 1: came right out out after it. He's not great over

819
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:57,319
Speaker 1: the top, but his speed makes me think he can

820
00:38:57,440 --> 00:38:59,759
Speaker 1: get there. There is a couple times on tape where

821
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:02,439
Speaker 1: he gets up some space, especially on the vertical routes.

822
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:04,759
Speaker 1: He's going down the sideline, he plays the outside corner spot,

823
00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:07,520
Speaker 1: he travels, he plays both sides of the field. I

824
00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:11,359
Speaker 1: think he's really he's a project. So day two perfect, Yeah,

825
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:14,560
Speaker 1: because he's got hurted receiver and exactly he was converted

826
00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:16,960
Speaker 1: from receiver after two years and they play two years

827
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:19,920
Speaker 1: of corner. Think of anybody across the building that did

828
00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:22,200
Speaker 1: that right feed in his play and when you talk

829
00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:24,440
Speaker 1: about guys breaking on balls and stuff like that, he

830
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:29,960
Speaker 1: has that same he has. Yeah, we're talking Darius one. Yeah.

831
00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:31,440
Speaker 1: I was thinking, Man, if you could get him pick

832
00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:34,879
Speaker 1: ninety in the third round, I'd be in heaven there

833
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:37,920
Speaker 1: because he runs the routes better than the receiver does.

834
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:41,360
Speaker 1: He can tell what's coming. And I think the the

835
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:44,640
Speaker 1: the ceiling, you look at the upside for this guy, Brian,

836
00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:46,680
Speaker 1: I know, sometimes we gotta we gotta go ahead and describe.

837
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:50,239
Speaker 1: But so the ceiling is, you know, how good can

838
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:52,520
Speaker 1: this guy potentially become? The floor is He's a safe

839
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:55,480
Speaker 1: pick basically, But I think Darius Rush his best football's

840
00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:59,200
Speaker 1: ahead of him. Rush is a guy who you watched Rush.

841
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:01,960
Speaker 1: I have you have not watched Rush? Okay? I think

842
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:05,000
Speaker 1: he gets beat off the line of scrimmage way too often. Okay,

843
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:07,799
Speaker 1: Like I mean, anybody who throws an exotic release at him,

844
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:11,320
Speaker 1: he gets beat. And I think double moves give him problems.

845
00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:14,440
Speaker 1: If we're talking about comparisons, you're sure, yeah, because he's

846
00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:16,080
Speaker 1: a little raw. I mean, if you're not wrong, I

847
00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:18,360
Speaker 1: mean there's there's definitely some things he needs to work on.

848
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Speaker 1: And uh, let's go about the evaluation of the players

849
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:25,120
Speaker 1: back to Rix. Uh, A lot of teams doing homework

850
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:30,719
Speaker 1: on him off the field. Yeah, the field, I knowed it,

851
00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:33,040
Speaker 1: Like when I started have you have you guys ever

852
00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:35,760
Speaker 1: started watching a player and then I don't know, Sometimes

853
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:38,839
Speaker 1: your intuition tells you like every time I started wanting

854
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:43,920
Speaker 1: to watch, what is that not true? There's still our

855
00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:47,080
Speaker 1: guy here? So you had this spider sense about some

856
00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:52,520
Speaker 1: with ricks, well, I mean somebody I've been told by

857
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Speaker 1: people that was not I didn't have any intuition I have,

858
00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:57,920
Speaker 1: but that was I'll give you something. I'll give you

859
00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:02,239
Speaker 1: something about the kid. His mom super involved to that point.

860
00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:06,600
Speaker 1: That's that's working out really well for NFL players. Yeah, Mom,

861
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:10,880
Speaker 1: is mom is super super involved and might be thinking

862
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:13,000
Speaker 1: that he should be a first overall pick. How about that?

863
00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:17,319
Speaker 1: Does that that help you? Number one? That's yeah, that's

864
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:20,920
Speaker 1: his family. I mean, it's a it's a very demanding

865
00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:26,440
Speaker 1: family on anywhere he goes. So he's following in the

866
00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:37,000
Speaker 1: other elis the Ravens out for taking Eli Ricks? Then yeah,

867
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:40,600
Speaker 1: I think that one's out too, all right, Tim? Tim

868
00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:43,480
Speaker 1: asked on Twitter. He said McCarthy said he wants to

869
00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:45,719
Speaker 1: run the football. I think that's false. What if the

870
00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:51,360
Speaker 1: following players wrong? What of the what of the following

871
00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:54,359
Speaker 1: players do you think would help the Cowboys run game

872
00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:57,960
Speaker 1: most at twenty six? So they're gonna say Bijan's off

873
00:41:58,040 --> 00:42:01,120
Speaker 1: the board? Would it be Gibbs out of Alabama? Darnell

874
00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:03,719
Speaker 1: Washington from Georgia. That's a good, that's a good that's

875
00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:06,919
Speaker 1: a good thought right there. Or the offensive guards either

876
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:10,640
Speaker 1: Osiris Torrance from Florida or Steve a Vila from TCU.

877
00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:13,680
Speaker 1: Which one of those four would help you run the

878
00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:19,160
Speaker 1: ball better at twenty six? Take a tackle? Yes, Darnel Washington,

879
00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:22,600
Speaker 1: I'm asking, I'm asking you're taking an extra tackle? No,

880
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:25,600
Speaker 1: I mean, but in the state of what like looking

881
00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:28,160
Speaker 1: at we've all starts to look at these guards? Yeah,

882
00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:31,640
Speaker 1: are you pushing it? If you get I mean, besides

883
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:35,160
Speaker 1: Osirius like Villa, is you consider him a first rounder?

884
00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:39,839
Speaker 1: I've got he's on the customer. I think. I don't

885
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:42,439
Speaker 1: think at twenty six. I don't think that's a terrible

886
00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:46,160
Speaker 1: would be terrible? Okay, that's fine, But are the tackles better? Wait?

887
00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:48,279
Speaker 1: Are you are you? Are you stumping for Washington right now?

888
00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:52,560
Speaker 1: Who's playing tackle? But like who who? Who? Would where

889
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:54,080
Speaker 1: would they step in at? If you get a tackle,

890
00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:56,680
Speaker 1: if you get a tackle, you're that rookie's playing tackle

891
00:42:56,719 --> 00:43:00,000
Speaker 1: and Tyler's playing guard. I'm out on Tyler Smith moving inside.

892
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:02,960
Speaker 1: That's that Tyler Smith is the traits. They are so

893
00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:05,440
Speaker 1: rare and were looked so much better at tackle as

894
00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:08,960
Speaker 1: opposed to guard last year. Yeah, to that question, I

895
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:11,480
Speaker 1: wouldn't want to move. I would if we're talking about

896
00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:13,759
Speaker 1: taking a tackle and it's at the expense of moving

897
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:15,840
Speaker 1: Tyler Smith inside, I don't want to do it. But

898
00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:18,800
Speaker 1: these guards, But you think that you think Osiris and

899
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:21,359
Speaker 1: a Villa are good enough to plug in a guard

900
00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:23,640
Speaker 1: day one? Yeah, I think they could. They could serve

901
00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:25,680
Speaker 1: for you, I think, I think, yeah, I think they

902
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:29,040
Speaker 1: both could. I would actually I might prefer a Velo

903
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:32,480
Speaker 1: over Torrance. Boom boom. I don't think you're alone. I

904
00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:34,480
Speaker 1: don't think you're alone, not alone. I don't think I'm

905
00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:38,400
Speaker 1: alone under this roof. I agree. No, I mean, what

906
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:42,359
Speaker 1: are you trying to say? Are you going to get

907
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:45,239
Speaker 1: a text message? Here? No? No, no, no, here's here? Like, uh,

908
00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:49,160
Speaker 1: you want to comp on a vila? Not super but

909
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:54,400
Speaker 1: more athletic ron Leary oh tatize role speaking highly. I

910
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:56,239
Speaker 1: think both of them have a little Leary in their games.

911
00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:59,440
Speaker 1: But I'm with you, I mean, you're not at all.

912
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:03,680
Speaker 1: I would take either of those guys at twenty six,

913
00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:05,359
Speaker 1: and I think that's plug and play. You can start

914
00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:07,600
Speaker 1: them both at left guard, and let's let's let anybody

915
00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:10,359
Speaker 1: go to work. Anybody, anybody insers in that massive tight

916
00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:12,880
Speaker 1: end at Georgia when you first said, who's the guy

917
00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:14,680
Speaker 1: that will impact you the most, they're at twenty six.

918
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:19,000
Speaker 1: Gibs is good. Gibbs is good at Alabama. Yeah, gives,

919
00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:21,319
Speaker 1: he is. Gives. He's damn good at Albam. He's gonna

920
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:22,680
Speaker 1: be an all pro. He's gonna end up in a

921
00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:24,520
Speaker 1: really good system because he is gonna be drafted late

922
00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:26,920
Speaker 1: in the first round that he'll be an all pro sometime.

923
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Speaker 1: I personally, i'd rather take John Michael Schmidtz than either

924
00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:32,520
Speaker 1: of those guys, But you I don't know. I don't

925
00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:34,960
Speaker 1: know that the Cowboys will do that. But I think

926
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:39,319
Speaker 1: John Michael Schmitts is better than Torrance and that's fair.

927
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:42,279
Speaker 1: So if it's give me John Michael Schmittz any day

928
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:44,680
Speaker 1: of the week, he's gonna kill it. If it's a boy,

929
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:46,640
Speaker 1: he might kill it. I like him. He's a good player.

930
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Speaker 1: To the specific question of which one of these helps

931
00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:53,920
Speaker 1: the running game most, now you're good. Probably the guard, Yeah,

932
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:57,080
Speaker 1: the guard. The guard more than Washington, more than Gibbs.

933
00:44:57,120 --> 00:44:58,640
Speaker 1: That's why I was getting it, because if you're telling

934
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Speaker 1: me like a running back at the first round that

935
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:03,839
Speaker 1: I'm assuming we're talking maybe like third round for a guard,

936
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Speaker 1: or you're talking about pick a guard in the first

937
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:08,120
Speaker 1: round or something like that, and then you're picking a

938
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Speaker 1: running back in the third. I think the drop off

939
00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:12,560
Speaker 1: to guard in the third as opposed to drop off

940
00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:16,239
Speaker 1: to running back and completely agree much steeper. We just

941
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942
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Speaker 1: I mean we were all we were jumping up and

943
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Speaker 1: down like we were cheerleaders. Yeah, I'll say, you kid

944
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Speaker 1: in a candy store over here. All right, let's take

945
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Speaker 1: our second break. When we come back, we're gonna talk

946
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Speaker 1: about Mazzy Smith in or out at twenty six and

947
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948
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Speaker 1: had a question about Mazzy Smith. Why or why not?

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Speaker 1: At twenty six? I had I counted twelve twitter on

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Speaker 1: I don't know if they would do that, but I'm

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Speaker 1: trying to figure out would Mazzy Smith be the guy

1017
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1018
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1019
00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:32,279
Speaker 1: probably wouldn't. Why is that because I got other guys

1020
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Speaker 1: I think that are better myself. And I feel like,

1021
00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:36,719
Speaker 1: though when I looked at my board and stuff with

1022
00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:40,120
Speaker 1: with Mozzi Smith, though I like the kid from I

1023
00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:42,840
Speaker 1: like the kid from Wisconsin better. Oh, I mean I

1024
00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:46,800
Speaker 1: like Benton better. I just do. And you know, and

1025
00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:50,560
Speaker 1: I could be way wrong about that. It's nothing against

1026
00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:54,319
Speaker 1: Mazzy Smith because for a big guy, he moves pretty well.

1027
00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:58,000
Speaker 1: There's nothing flashy about him at all. But you know

1028
00:49:58,160 --> 00:50:01,759
Speaker 1: that he's a dirty work a guy. And you know,

1029
00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:04,360
Speaker 1: I think when you look at his athletic ability for

1030
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Speaker 1: a man's size, it is rare. But he comes off

1031
00:50:07,120 --> 00:50:08,759
Speaker 1: the ball, he's gonna be a load to handle when

1032
00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:11,040
Speaker 1: he's working one on one. And but there's I mean,

1033
00:50:11,160 --> 00:50:14,000
Speaker 1: all the stuff you're gonna get pass rush wise is

1034
00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:16,440
Speaker 1: just push with power and stuff like that. He can

1035
00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:19,560
Speaker 1: be a little bit disruptive. But I just feel like

1036
00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:24,759
Speaker 1: though to me that Benton would be a little bit

1037
00:50:24,920 --> 00:50:27,800
Speaker 1: better choice because I think you could do more with

1038
00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:31,120
Speaker 1: him than you can with Massy Smith. But Mossie Smith

1039
00:50:31,160 --> 00:50:33,080
Speaker 1: is a good player, just not very flashy. It depends

1040
00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:35,359
Speaker 1: on what you want well as far as Mossy goes.

1041
00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:37,600
Speaker 1: To me, it just depends on what the team is

1042
00:50:37,640 --> 00:50:40,040
Speaker 1: looking for. If you not can he. I know people

1043
00:50:40,080 --> 00:50:41,800
Speaker 1: have talked about like, is he going to develop some

1044
00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:44,719
Speaker 1: pass rushability? Is as something you see in his game? Sure,

1045
00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:46,560
Speaker 1: I guess you can say that if you really look

1046
00:50:46,600 --> 00:50:49,719
Speaker 1: at him. But what he does well, which I think

1047
00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:51,360
Speaker 1: that you should bring him in to do well, is

1048
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Speaker 1: to just stop the run. I mean, he's at the

1049
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Speaker 1: bottom of every pile. He's just that dude, right. So

1050
00:50:55,719 --> 00:50:58,080
Speaker 1: to me, it just depends on what your team want.

1051
00:50:58,200 --> 00:51:00,200
Speaker 1: Do you want some pass rushability from the middle the

1052
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1053
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1054
00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:07,680
Speaker 1: So I don't think that he would be somebody that

1055
00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:09,480
Speaker 1: they would pick. You can give you a little wiggle

1056
00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:12,640
Speaker 1: in the middle. I think you can too. But what

1057
00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:15,200
Speaker 1: I'm going to ask is is right back along your

1058
00:51:15,239 --> 00:51:17,839
Speaker 1: line of thinking, because it goes back to scheme versus

1059
00:51:17,960 --> 00:51:19,879
Speaker 1: a player. Are you picking the guy to fit into

1060
00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:22,680
Speaker 1: your scheme and fit into your current system, or are

1061
00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:25,279
Speaker 1: you picking the best player available. If you're picking miss

1062
00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:28,239
Speaker 1: Smith at twenty six, it's very likely you're picking a

1063
00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:30,680
Speaker 1: guy for your scheme because he would fit here in

1064
00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:33,520
Speaker 1: a heartbeat. They need a big stopper in the middle.

1065
00:51:33,560 --> 00:51:35,560
Speaker 1: They need a run stuff or they need somebody who's

1066
00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:38,080
Speaker 1: going to take up multiple gaps and allow those edge

1067
00:51:38,120 --> 00:51:41,600
Speaker 1: rushers to get free, allow those three techniques like Osakizhua

1068
00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:44,640
Speaker 1: to get free. Would you do that at twenty six

1069
00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:46,560
Speaker 1: or do you think they would do that at twenty

1070
00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:49,279
Speaker 1: six because they haven't done that in a while. Go

1071
00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:51,920
Speaker 1: back to well, you have to go back to Kelvin Pritchard,

1072
00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:55,239
Speaker 1: I think at nineteen I mean him and yeah, the

1073
00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:58,640
Speaker 1: defensive tack they can and it real quick. And I'll

1074
00:51:58,640 --> 00:52:00,719
Speaker 1: get to your part of it in your notes. When

1075
00:52:00,719 --> 00:52:03,640
Speaker 1: you guys went back and watch this player, how did

1076
00:52:03,719 --> 00:52:06,239
Speaker 1: you think this guy finished? Okay, see I put I

1077
00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:08,560
Speaker 1: have that in my notes. Doesn't always finish plays when

1078
00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:11,560
Speaker 1: he's in position to break down and make a stop. See.

1079
00:52:11,680 --> 00:52:13,600
Speaker 1: That's the thing about it is if I'm gonna have

1080
00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:17,000
Speaker 1: a guy that's doing dirty work just holding up blocks,

1081
00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:21,120
Speaker 1: I'm cool. But you know we did see it with Hankins.

1082
00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:23,680
Speaker 1: You do see finish, you know, you do see if

1083
00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:26,440
Speaker 1: you're gonna hold up Like when the Hankins made a

1084
00:52:26,560 --> 00:52:28,520
Speaker 1: saving play in a game a fourth and one and

1085
00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:30,920
Speaker 1: he trips, I mean, he's it's when he ripped his

1086
00:52:31,160 --> 00:52:33,680
Speaker 1: you know, when he got hurt, when he hurt his peck.

1087
00:52:34,080 --> 00:52:36,400
Speaker 1: He's making a play where he's fighting off a block

1088
00:52:36,520 --> 00:52:39,160
Speaker 1: and then tripping a guy in fourth and one with

1089
00:52:39,440 --> 00:52:43,200
Speaker 1: Manzi Smith. You do see him make plays, but then

1090
00:52:43,239 --> 00:52:46,839
Speaker 1: there's other times where it's not. It's not and you're

1091
00:52:46,880 --> 00:52:49,200
Speaker 1: like thinking, he's there, he should make He's there again,

1092
00:52:49,320 --> 00:52:51,680
Speaker 1: he should make that play. He's there again. You know.

1093
00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:54,000
Speaker 1: That's the thing that I kind of was. I think

1094
00:52:54,040 --> 00:52:56,920
Speaker 1: he's a really really good player. I do. I just

1095
00:52:57,160 --> 00:53:00,880
Speaker 1: wish did he finished better when got when gets opportunities.

1096
00:53:00,920 --> 00:53:04,000
Speaker 1: He's got really impressive size. He's a like, I mean,

1097
00:53:04,280 --> 00:53:06,680
Speaker 1: he's a freak athlete for how big he is. And

1098
00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:09,960
Speaker 1: that's why it's so discouraging to me how frequently he

1099
00:53:10,040 --> 00:53:12,560
Speaker 1: seems to lose the gap, which it's not like all

1100
00:53:12,600 --> 00:53:14,640
Speaker 1: the time, but it happens way more than it should

1101
00:53:14,680 --> 00:53:17,000
Speaker 1: with his size, and so that's a big thing. And

1102
00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:18,759
Speaker 1: the other thing just in as a rule, I don't

1103
00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:20,719
Speaker 1: want to take two down players in the first round,

1104
00:53:21,080 --> 00:53:23,719
Speaker 1: and I think he's a two down player. Why I

1105
00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:25,880
Speaker 1: don't care how good Jordan Davis was, I wouldn't I

1106
00:53:25,880 --> 00:53:29,080
Speaker 1: didn't want Jordan Davis last year. I don't know if

1107
00:53:29,080 --> 00:53:31,359
Speaker 1: I agree on Jordan Davis, but I see what your

1108
00:53:31,360 --> 00:53:33,680
Speaker 1: thought process is. Jordan Davis, by the way, thirteen games

1109
00:53:33,719 --> 00:53:36,319
Speaker 1: last year, finished the season with zero quarterback hits. That's

1110
00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:37,799
Speaker 1: the player you get. And I don't want to take

1111
00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:39,360
Speaker 1: that at twenty six, just like I don't want to

1112
00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:42,359
Speaker 1: take the strength power is the focus on the edge

1113
00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:43,840
Speaker 1: like that kind of player. I want somebody who's going

1114
00:53:43,880 --> 00:53:46,520
Speaker 1: to impact the passing game with the pressures and the

1115
00:53:46,640 --> 00:53:49,440
Speaker 1: sacks and stuff like. That's well, and he brought up

1116
00:53:49,520 --> 00:53:51,480
Speaker 1: with a Cowboys draft. Then will you look at Dan

1117
00:53:51,560 --> 00:53:54,920
Speaker 1: Quinn and what he's done um drafting or his imprint

1118
00:53:55,160 --> 00:53:56,759
Speaker 1: you can sell he's had on the draft this last

1119
00:53:56,800 --> 00:53:58,759
Speaker 1: couple of years. You look at a Neville Gallimore, that

1120
00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:02,520
Speaker 1: guy wei has some pass rushability. You look at Olso

1121
00:54:02,680 --> 00:54:05,200
Speaker 1: Diggi Zua, he has some pass rushability. You look at

1122
00:54:05,400 --> 00:54:11,359
Speaker 1: Um quiet As Cup Chauncey Ghoston he has somehow created Yeah,

1123
00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:14,560
Speaker 1: and to what is relevant to this draft right now,

1124
00:54:14,920 --> 00:54:17,440
Speaker 1: which is nuts to me because I totally forgot that

1125
00:54:17,520 --> 00:54:21,400
Speaker 1: they did draft Chauncey ghost as a as a edge

1126
00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:24,640
Speaker 1: and he was the power I'll stop the run guy yeah,

1127
00:54:24,680 --> 00:54:27,520
Speaker 1: exactly put size on him. Yeah, last year where he

1128
00:54:27,719 --> 00:54:30,440
Speaker 1: literally fits the mold of what a lot of the

1129
00:54:30,640 --> 00:54:35,080
Speaker 1: good dts or pass rushing dts in this lage point.

1130
00:54:35,120 --> 00:54:37,880
Speaker 1: So I wonder if that changes whether you decide because

1131
00:54:37,920 --> 00:54:39,759
Speaker 1: he's on the uptick. It looked like, so I want

1132
00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:41,120
Speaker 1: to have to change. Do you decide if you want

1133
00:54:41,120 --> 00:54:42,759
Speaker 1: to go down now? Because you already got like, you

1134
00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:45,200
Speaker 1: know what. It's funny because and I know Bohanna was

1135
00:54:45,239 --> 00:54:48,600
Speaker 1: a sixth round pick, Yeah, but he's done nothing for you. Really,

1136
00:54:49,000 --> 00:54:50,480
Speaker 1: I mean if you and you're talking about it, and

1137
00:54:50,520 --> 00:54:53,200
Speaker 1: I'm not saying Mozzi Smith is, but you mean, I

1138
00:54:53,280 --> 00:54:56,040
Speaker 1: think when you watch Bohannah play at Kentucky, because I

1139
00:54:56,120 --> 00:54:59,240
Speaker 1: remember watching jam And Davis the linebacker, yeah, and feeling

1140
00:54:59,320 --> 00:55:03,279
Speaker 1: like every play that Davis made was because Bohannah was

1141
00:55:03,400 --> 00:55:05,960
Speaker 1: like kind of you know, ninety five was not getting

1142
00:55:06,040 --> 00:55:08,800
Speaker 1: turned and all that stuff like that. I felt like

1143
00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:11,480
Speaker 1: that Bohanna has played better at Kentucky than he has

1144
00:55:11,520 --> 00:55:13,440
Speaker 1: for the Dallas Cowboy. Yeah. I would agree with that.

1145
00:55:13,719 --> 00:55:15,520
Speaker 1: But the thing about Monzi Smith that's a little bit

1146
00:55:15,560 --> 00:55:18,640
Speaker 1: different is that his athleticism is higher than Bohanna. Briannah

1147
00:55:18,680 --> 00:55:20,239
Speaker 1: was a trash game full of dirty. He's a big

1148
00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:22,719
Speaker 1: guy that's going to take up space. Smith can at

1149
00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:25,040
Speaker 1: least have a little bit of athleticism to him. The

1150
00:55:25,160 --> 00:55:27,560
Speaker 1: one thing I didn't like, and this goes to Bobby's point,

1151
00:55:28,160 --> 00:55:30,400
Speaker 1: the one knock I had was motor. He does not

1152
00:55:30,520 --> 00:55:32,279
Speaker 1: have that high motor and I think that goes to

1153
00:55:32,360 --> 00:55:36,040
Speaker 1: the finish ability. I don't think he can really finish through.

1154
00:55:36,719 --> 00:55:38,839
Speaker 1: Is that something that can change? Though? Can you change

1155
00:55:38,880 --> 00:55:40,919
Speaker 1: that with the right coaching staff, with a dan Quinn

1156
00:55:41,040 --> 00:55:46,440
Speaker 1: led staff to where he's that you've been on aiden dirty?

1157
00:55:46,840 --> 00:55:50,040
Speaker 1: I think dirty? Yeah, dirty, I think and dirty. I

1158
00:55:50,120 --> 00:55:52,560
Speaker 1: think that you uh, I think you have to bet

1159
00:55:52,680 --> 00:55:55,160
Speaker 1: on that with what they're able to do with these linemen,

1160
00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:57,960
Speaker 1: I do. That's why when they go and work out

1161
00:55:58,000 --> 00:56:00,680
Speaker 1: of van Ness or somebody like that, and I'm sitting

1162
00:56:00,680 --> 00:56:02,320
Speaker 1: there like, man, I don't see it. I don't see it,

1163
00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:04,000
Speaker 1: and you're starting to think, wait a minute, if he

1164
00:56:04,080 --> 00:56:06,120
Speaker 1: comes here, these are the guys that are gonna help.

1165
00:56:06,160 --> 00:56:09,040
Speaker 1: These are the guys that, yeah, that part of it

1166
00:56:09,280 --> 00:56:12,879
Speaker 1: does help me mentally, you know. With when you start

1167
00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:15,560
Speaker 1: talking about these players, Bobby, do you have a why

1168
00:56:15,680 --> 00:56:18,480
Speaker 1: or why not name available? Do you have anybody that's

1169
00:56:18,560 --> 00:56:20,000
Speaker 1: that you're on the fence about that you want to

1170
00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:22,720
Speaker 1: throw out there before we get going. I like the player,

1171
00:56:23,040 --> 00:56:25,760
Speaker 1: but I struggle with how he fits in the modern NFL.

1172
00:56:25,800 --> 00:56:27,560
Speaker 1: And we've talked about himself and how he fits at

1173
00:56:27,600 --> 00:56:31,279
Speaker 1: the evolution the position, and that's Michael Mayer from Notre Dame. Okay,

1174
00:56:31,360 --> 00:56:34,680
Speaker 1: let's talk about him. It's like, I really think he's

1175
00:56:34,920 --> 00:56:37,160
Speaker 1: a good player. I think he does everything well, but

1176
00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:39,600
Speaker 1: it's one of those things where it's like, Okay, this

1177
00:56:39,680 --> 00:56:42,880
Speaker 1: is great, You're you're solid across the board, But to me,

1178
00:56:43,000 --> 00:56:45,480
Speaker 1: it's like, does that fit in the modern view of

1179
00:56:45,640 --> 00:56:47,879
Speaker 1: what you're supposed to do? It tight end these days,

1180
00:56:47,920 --> 00:56:49,319
Speaker 1: Like it feels like a lot of the reasons why

1181
00:56:49,719 --> 00:56:52,600
Speaker 1: Dalton Schultz probably isn't here anymore is because he couldn't

1182
00:56:52,640 --> 00:56:55,000
Speaker 1: do certain things that I feel like Michael Mayer can't

1183
00:56:55,000 --> 00:56:58,239
Speaker 1: do either, And so I have issues with him because

1184
00:56:58,280 --> 00:57:00,319
Speaker 1: I know he's a good player. I don't have any

1185
00:57:00,360 --> 00:57:02,000
Speaker 1: doubt that he'll be a good player at the next level.

1186
00:57:02,160 --> 00:57:03,880
Speaker 1: I just don't know that he's the right player for

1187
00:57:03,960 --> 00:57:06,560
Speaker 1: this era at the position. Yeah, I think that I

1188
00:57:06,680 --> 00:57:12,239
Speaker 1: wrote down respectfully. I think that I wrote down, can

1189
00:57:12,320 --> 00:57:16,960
Speaker 1: do it all, but don't wow wow me with nothing

1190
00:57:17,320 --> 00:57:20,760
Speaker 1: could start? Yeah, could starts, jack of all trades, master

1191
00:57:20,840 --> 00:57:24,160
Speaker 1: of none. He's powerful, he can start. Yeah. Is he

1192
00:57:24,520 --> 00:57:26,920
Speaker 1: is very much so? That's a that's a good Compactually

1193
00:57:27,160 --> 00:57:30,360
Speaker 1: he very much so. Is the like the standard tight

1194
00:57:30,640 --> 00:57:33,280
Speaker 1: end that like, yeah, he can do everything or whatever.

1195
00:57:33,400 --> 00:57:35,360
Speaker 1: But even when you see him test and stuff like,

1196
00:57:35,920 --> 00:57:38,600
Speaker 1: there's not that explosiveness. Even when he catches the ball.

1197
00:57:39,000 --> 00:57:41,200
Speaker 1: You see him catch the ball, and he's catching the ball,

1198
00:57:41,360 --> 00:57:43,760
Speaker 1: then he's going It's not like one fluid movement. And

1199
00:57:43,840 --> 00:57:46,120
Speaker 1: I just think the tight end position, like you're saying Bobby,

1200
00:57:46,560 --> 00:57:48,800
Speaker 1: is evolving in a way that I'm not sure. I

1201
00:57:48,880 --> 00:57:51,479
Speaker 1: think it matters when it's not. Yeah, it's not quite

1202
00:57:51,480 --> 00:57:54,720
Speaker 1: as clean and smooth as a kincaide or a must rave.

1203
00:57:55,000 --> 00:57:59,360
Speaker 1: But man, I do like Michael Mayer one, you can

1204
00:57:59,440 --> 00:58:01,800
Speaker 1: plug a man. He's gonna be productive. But is he

1205
00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:04,320
Speaker 1: going to You're gonna look across the pond and see

1206
00:58:04,320 --> 00:58:07,920
Speaker 1: another tiny getting busy catching one hand and balls and

1207
00:58:08,120 --> 00:58:11,480
Speaker 1: have a yak ability and whatever. Y Well, that was

1208
00:58:11,520 --> 00:58:14,480
Speaker 1: the downfall. That was the downfall of slow that guy

1209
00:58:14,560 --> 00:58:16,360
Speaker 1: down in the open field. Man, I mean hard to

1210
00:58:16,480 --> 00:58:19,440
Speaker 1: tackling yack is two different ice. For he's yeah, he's

1211
00:58:19,480 --> 00:58:22,040
Speaker 1: got yak more so than a Dalton Schultz does. I

1212
00:58:22,080 --> 00:58:23,920
Speaker 1: would agree with that, but that's not hard to do it. Man.

1213
00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:26,800
Speaker 1: You guys got me super nervous about this guy. You

1214
00:58:26,880 --> 00:58:29,240
Speaker 1: think he's no no no I I because to me,

1215
00:58:29,520 --> 00:58:31,720
Speaker 1: I have him is tied end one. And the way

1216
00:58:31,760 --> 00:58:33,920
Speaker 1: you describe it, and looking at my notes and stuff

1217
00:58:34,000 --> 00:58:36,640
Speaker 1: like that, you know, there's things about him that makes

1218
00:58:36,680 --> 00:58:39,280
Speaker 1: him just pretty ordinary. Is a tight end? Yeah, you know.

1219
00:58:39,400 --> 00:58:41,320
Speaker 1: And then if you read the other notes when you're

1220
00:58:41,400 --> 00:58:44,920
Speaker 1: talking about Musgrave and others that we you know, that

1221
00:58:45,040 --> 00:58:49,200
Speaker 1: we've that we've you know, visited on, it doesn't sound

1222
00:58:49,480 --> 00:58:53,520
Speaker 1: is nice. And like what we're playing modern football with

1223
00:58:54,280 --> 00:58:57,400
Speaker 1: the krusty scout here, guys like, oh man, this guy's steady,

1224
00:58:57,920 --> 00:59:01,320
Speaker 1: soft hands, drags underneath, catches, the ball gets up the

1225
00:59:01,400 --> 00:59:04,280
Speaker 1: field looks pretty good in the red zone. But you're right,

1226
00:59:04,760 --> 00:59:08,000
Speaker 1: the modern tight end is the one that is causing

1227
00:59:08,240 --> 00:59:12,120
Speaker 1: defensive coordinators nightmares exactly. And I and Michael Mayer for

1228
00:59:12,280 --> 00:59:15,920
Speaker 1: being tight in one. For me, that's the question I

1229
00:59:16,040 --> 00:59:19,880
Speaker 1: have is that is he that nightmare guy? I graded

1230
00:59:19,920 --> 00:59:23,600
Speaker 1: a pretty steady, reliable player, but maybe in this day

1231
00:59:23,640 --> 00:59:26,440
Speaker 1: and age, you need to play with a lot more

1232
00:59:26,560 --> 00:59:29,920
Speaker 1: than that. He's really good, he's but I mean it's like, uh,

1233
00:59:30,720 --> 00:59:32,680
Speaker 1: it's like comparing and these are obviously Hall of famers

1234
00:59:32,720 --> 00:59:34,480
Speaker 1: on a different sport, but it's like comparing like a

1235
00:59:34,800 --> 00:59:37,720
Speaker 1: Tim Duncan power forward versus like a dirt power forward,

1236
00:59:37,760 --> 00:59:39,640
Speaker 1: and what they can do and the matchup problems they

1237
00:59:39,680 --> 00:59:43,680
Speaker 1: present where fundamentally sound across the board. He's strong, but

1238
00:59:43,760 --> 00:59:45,560
Speaker 1: it's like, is that the way you win today? Which

1239
00:59:45,640 --> 00:59:47,960
Speaker 1: is why I got Kincaid is the number one tight

1240
00:59:48,040 --> 00:59:50,280
Speaker 1: end over him? I have Kincaid number one, may or

1241
00:59:50,360 --> 00:59:52,200
Speaker 1: number two, must Grave number three. That's where I have.

1242
00:59:52,440 --> 00:59:58,360
Speaker 1: If you got a young quarterback, Yeah, you guys, you guys,

1243
00:59:58,440 --> 01:00:00,560
Speaker 1: you guys are right about them. It's the downfall of

1244
01:00:00,640 --> 01:00:02,880
Speaker 1: Dalton Sholds. Dalton Scholtz is a good tight end, but

1245
01:00:03,000 --> 01:00:05,280
Speaker 1: he was a replaceable tight end. That's why you didn't

1246
01:00:05,320 --> 01:00:08,040
Speaker 1: pay him that money. He's replaceable. But you went and

1247
01:00:08,120 --> 01:00:10,040
Speaker 1: got two guys last year, one of the fourth round.

1248
01:00:10,080 --> 01:00:12,800
Speaker 1: One is an undrafted free agent that are able to

1249
01:00:12,920 --> 01:00:16,680
Speaker 1: fill his production, or so they think. In this this system,

1250
01:00:17,080 --> 01:00:18,360
Speaker 1: is there a tight end at the top of the

1251
01:00:18,440 --> 01:00:20,960
Speaker 1: draft that is not so replaceable, that can come in

1252
01:00:21,040 --> 01:00:23,320
Speaker 1: and be special. That's that might be where you have

1253
01:00:23,480 --> 01:00:26,560
Speaker 1: the conversation of these three tight ends that are at

1254
01:00:26,600 --> 01:00:29,400
Speaker 1: least draftable. My hope is such Mayor goes off the

1255
01:00:29,440 --> 01:00:32,400
Speaker 1: board before the Cowboys pick. I have him right now, Brian,

1256
01:00:32,560 --> 01:00:34,400
Speaker 1: and no, no kidding, you can see it right here.

1257
01:00:34,480 --> 01:00:38,479
Speaker 1: I have him at number twenty six board. So he's

1258
01:00:38,560 --> 01:00:40,920
Speaker 1: at twenty six right now. If you let go, if

1259
01:00:40,960 --> 01:00:45,600
Speaker 1: you let go of Dalton shows he don't make sense. Yeah, respectfully, no,

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Speaker 1: I completely agree. Yea, all right tomorrow, Brian, you could

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Speaker 1: take him off the board before the Cowboys get to

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Speaker 1: draft tomorrow, full first round one through thirty two. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna do a full first round mock draft tomorrow. So

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be a whole lot of fun. Get your

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Speaker 1: team needs ready, we'll get you at ten am tomorrow

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Speaker 1: Central time is when we're gonna go trade, Beamer. Do

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Speaker 1: you want to do trade now? That's that's okay, we

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Speaker 1: can talk. It's gonna open, do it later. We'll do

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Speaker 1: it later. Why did you say ten o'clock? Am that

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Speaker 1: to me? Yeah? News to me too. But I'm going

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Speaker 1: to relay what Bamer says. So they got it here,

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Speaker 1: all right, let's do it. We'll be back tomorrow with

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Speaker 1: more of the Draft Show for Bobby Belt. Brian brought us,

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Speaker 1: Zach Walchuck, Aisha Morrison, and Chris Beam. I'm Kyle Yelmans.

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