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Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily, where we don't have any void years.

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Speaker 2: We don't even have any void days.

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Speaker 3: It's like Valentine's Day, middle of February pre combine, and

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Speaker 3: we're cranking out these off season previews. I'm Greg Rosenthal

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Speaker 3: here in the Chris Westleyan podcast studio for the first

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Speaker 3: time in weeks with my friend Patrick Claybon weeks.

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Speaker 2: Honestly, well two.

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Speaker 4: I feel like because you guys are traveling the cranking

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Speaker 4: out podcasts, confetti going down, shuffling through parking lots and

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Speaker 4: parking decks to provide the people with content. And so

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Speaker 4: I've just been waiting for a chance to get back

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Speaker 4: and we're here to celebrate not just you know, one

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Speaker 4: momentus occasion, but great it's the new glasses.

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Speaker 1: Oh yes, as well, this is a big day. I

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Speaker 1: decided to wear my glasses into the studio and yeah,

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Speaker 1: I like them. Although they make me look like my brother.

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Speaker 4: Well it's a bad thing. That's some news for you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, but it's just it's yeah, that's my

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Speaker 1: my wife's take on it.

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Speaker 2: But I like them.

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Speaker 1: So people can let it, let me know in the comments,

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Speaker 1: but only if they're nice. Only if they're nice comments.

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Speaker 1: Otherwise I don't want to hear about them. Although we

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Speaker 1: would love you to subscribe on on YouTube, please do so,

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Speaker 1: and like it's great. We're doing these off season previews

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Speaker 1: this week. We're doing the NFC South today. I mentioned

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Speaker 1: the void years, Patrick because there was some news about

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Speaker 1: Chris Godwin in his void year, and we're gonna get

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Speaker 1: to that. Actually in the middle of this show. Oh,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna start this. Yeah, we're gonna start with with

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Speaker 1: the off season previews. Unless you want to like give

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Speaker 1: the listeners an update. It really only has been two weeks.

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Speaker 1: By the way, we tape the Tuesday show during during

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl week since I've seen you, hasn't been that long.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 1: You've had a lot of dental work done in the meantime,

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Speaker 1: but otherwise you seem fresh and ready to go.

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Speaker 4: I mean more ahead, more ahead than behind me, as

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Speaker 4: is the case with don't work. There's actually dental people

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Speaker 4: out last is this free? She was like, well, I'm like, no,

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Speaker 4: you don't have to, don't have to keep talking. But

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Speaker 4: you know, just asides from all that, just to be

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Speaker 4: in a podcast video to celebrate Greg Rosethal's birthday. Oh wow,

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Speaker 4: which is something new that we are all ready to

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Speaker 4: do today?

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Speaker 1: This is this is Yeah, I'm sure everyone was prepared

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Speaker 2: We did not plan that at all.

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Speaker 1: And he mentioned the momentous occasion I heard through the

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Speaker 1: grapevine that in my fever birthday, so I had.

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Speaker 2: It ready to go.

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Speaker 1: Well, nothing I would rather do on my birthday than

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Speaker 1: break down the Tampa Bay Buccaneers salary cap situation.

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Speaker 2: I'm telling you, it's looking good. All right, let's do it.

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Speaker 1: We've been doing what ten minutes per team? Why not

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Speaker 1: that we wouldn't need all the ten minutes. Some of

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Speaker 1: these teams are pretty pretty straightforward, but we might and uh,

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Speaker 1: with the Buccaneers. Let's do it, and I'm gonna ask

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Speaker 1: a question. We'll each ask a questionquestion for two of

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Speaker 1: these teams. I'll kick us off. Are the Buccaneers sneakily

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Speaker 1: one of the best franchises in the NFL And does

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Speaker 1: my question, which is a very leading question.

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Speaker 4: I think a lot of people's feelings about the Buccaneers

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Speaker 4: But I think the answer is yes, Greg, I think

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Speaker 4: so it's hard to look past what you know, we'll

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Speaker 4: and to have this consistency with multiple quarterbacks, with multiple

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Speaker 1: And I know they lost the Commanders and they very

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Speaker 2: And here's my case for why they're good.

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Speaker 1: This exercise has been able to go through all the

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Speaker 1: and I realized, like the Bucks are in one of

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Speaker 1: they're not great in terms of cap space. They're only

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Speaker 2: But they do have all their picks.

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Speaker 1: And then I look at the players that are most

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Speaker 1: Levante David and Chris Godwin are both free agents who

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Speaker 1: I think are more likely to stay with the team

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Speaker 1: than go. They've got all their their rosters intacted to

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Speaker 1: They remind me a little bit of the Eagles, which

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Speaker 1: push a little bit this offseason.

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Speaker 2: To improve the team.

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Speaker 1: They usually don't get dramatic and they just don't have

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Speaker 1: a ton of huge issues. So when I look at

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Speaker 1: to me, they are the team that's in the best

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Speaker 4: Year after year in a different division with a different setup.

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Speaker 4: Where I looked at twenty twenty four, which was leading

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Speaker 4: There's just there's only so long you can do this.

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Speaker 4: And maybe we've been convinced by looking at this chief's corps.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, you just bring guys back. You played, you know,

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Speaker 1: I think if they have a great offseason, they got

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Speaker 1: a chance here. Certainly Baker Mayfield. You lose your offensive

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Speaker 1: he obviously did great with it.

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Speaker 2: Last year.

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Speaker 1: They promoted from within, they found another wide receiver in

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Speaker 1: the news. There was a report that they have extended

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Speaker 1: really sounds like there's mutual interest in making a deal happen.

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Speaker 1: And this organization has done such a good job with

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Speaker 1: Godwin is never even going to make it to the market.

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Speaker 1: He's in my top twelve free agents. He's coming off

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Speaker 1: a dislocated ankle, but he's still young enough that you

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Speaker 1: want to bet on that town. But they have Jalen McMillan,

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Speaker 1: and then I look at the rest of the roster.

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Speaker 1: The whole offense is coming back, except for left guard

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Speaker 1: it's all just you mentioned Shaq Beart.

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Speaker 2: A lot of their depth is our free agents.

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Speaker 1: Their backups are all free agents, so it's filling in depth.

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Speaker 1: You need some defensive linemen. You'll probably re sign some

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Speaker 1: they just keep cranking along while no one's looking, because

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Speaker 4: We've seen It's the conversation that we had about Howe

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Speaker 4: And that's something that the Bucks have been able to do.

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Speaker 4: I think a lot of the questions are going to

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Speaker 1: I don't love Baker still, like like he's not a

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Speaker 1: top He's wait, did he make quarterback Island in the end?

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Speaker 1: a great year. Losing Cohen is a little concerning, but

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Speaker 1: it's if you have a great offense, Like what they've

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Speaker 1: is they have Bucky Irving. They just keep hitting on

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Speaker 1: Like people don't think of Gett a Key and and

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Speaker 1: like plus starters. And Jason Light's really been good at

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Speaker 4: That that's that's the key part. It's like, well, how

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Speaker 4: can how can everybody duplicate that there's not a lot

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Speaker 4: of Tristan Worf's on the planet. But you know, you

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Speaker 4: if you can evaluate that players still something that they did, right,

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Speaker 4: you know, other teams had a chance at Tristan Wurf's.

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Speaker 4: I think it was you know, he was the first

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Speaker 1: So I know they don't have a ton of cap

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Speaker 1: So you do wonder, like, is this an off season

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Speaker 4: I thought it was a decent year for Yayadiabi all right,

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Speaker 1: Could I keep mentioning there's pretty good cornerback class. Sante

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Speaker 4: Tea coming into twenty twenty four. The question was, how

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Speaker 4: They solved that problem. Can the Carolina Panthers do for

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Speaker 1: Greg It's it's very difficult to improve a position group

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Speaker 1: But just you can just write defense like there is

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Speaker 4: And that's what I like about retaining and maintaining the

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you're actually paying those guys like a decent amount

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Speaker 1: Could be a cut potentially. Potentially not at least you

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Speaker 1: could do that with some restructures. Maybe a tailor mote

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Speaker 2: Like they're like, they're good players. Are are Derek Brown.

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Speaker 1: It was aby I'll be wrong and I'm wrong to

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Speaker 4: I mean, just watching a lot of Carolina Panthers chasing

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Speaker 4: And that's what you have to hope that the staff

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Speaker 2: That's all I mean.

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Speaker 4: With a guy and you get one guy that maybe

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Speaker 1: Now because that you see is you want to know

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Speaker 1: save five million against the cap by cutting mynd Sanders.

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Speaker 1: I would expect that to happen. They are all set

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Speaker 1: at running back, if if Jonathan Brooks can get healthy

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Speaker 1: as kind of the the one bee behind Chuba Hubard,

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Speaker 1: who's now really established himself. He got a nice contract

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Speaker 1: actually during last season. So those are the types of

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Speaker 1: moves I like, like, just take easy wins. You love

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Speaker 1: Chuba Herbert for a couple more years, Like, Okay, now

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Speaker 1: we don't have to worry about running back. It's not

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Speaker 1: gonna cost that much. They did that, and I've seen

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Speaker 1: it thrown out there is like, well, should they keep

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Speaker 1: Adam Thielen or not.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, are you kidding me?

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Speaker 1: Yes, Adam Wheelings, He's he's sneaky on one of the

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Speaker 1: best contracts in the year. I was like, he deserves

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Speaker 1: a raise. How is he only making four million dollars

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Speaker 1: next year? He's got like a one point five bonus.

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Speaker 1: Is cap numbers eight million, eight million dollars. He's actually underpaid.

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Speaker 1: Adam Thielen when he's been out there, has been freaking

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Speaker 1: awesome and it's very trustworthy. So I like this offense.

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Speaker 1: You add one more piece to it. But yeah, a

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Speaker 1: lot of work to do on defense. Think they'll be

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Speaker 1: aggressive there, all right, we will take a quick break.

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Speaker 1: I want to hear that break music. Uh, and we

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Speaker 1: are going to come back and we are gonna do

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Speaker 1: a little news before diving into the Falcons and the Saints,

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Speaker 1: who are a little messier.

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Speaker 2: I feel like it's a little messy.

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Speaker 4: They're in this together.

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Speaker 2: Now, you're just making me feel awkward.

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Speaker 4: Shout out to the artist who is what number is

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Speaker 4: this in the library?

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Speaker 1: Back on NFL Daily, your number one source for off

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Speaker 1: season Jaden Comarti, Chremitie, and Thomas Incuin news. Shout out

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Speaker 1: to them. Make it happen on the Carolina Panthers.

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Speaker 4: Thomas Incombe the season finale had a couple of tackles.

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Speaker 4: Nice job both of them, solo.

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Speaker 1: Nice job. Cormette's gonna make it happen. Been a nose tackle,

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Speaker 1: sixth round pick. We're gonna do a little bit of

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Speaker 1: news un till we get back to the NFC South

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Speaker 1: offseason previews. And yes we already mentioned Chris Godwin. I

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Speaker 1: really think that deal is going to happen. But the

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Speaker 1: NFL dropped some news this was actually Wednesday morning, that

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Speaker 1: the Chargers are going to be the team that kicks

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Speaker 1: off the season, at least in terms of the opening weekend.

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Speaker 1: You have the kickoff game, which will include the Eagles,

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Speaker 1: we don't know who they will be playing against. And

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Speaker 1: then Friday night we're making this an annual thing now,

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Speaker 1: the Brazil South Paolo Game. Last year it was Eagles Packers,

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Speaker 1: a game that was replayed in the playoffs, and the

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Speaker 1: Eagles started in Brazil ended with the Super Bowl. Can

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Speaker 1: the Los Angeles Chargers do the same thing, because the

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Speaker 1: Los Angeles Chargers are starting their season down in Brazil.

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Speaker 4: Yes, that's why we play the games, correct. Yeah, they

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Speaker 4: got an opportunity, they got a good quarterback. Hardball is

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Speaker 4: there in second year. You know, sometimes the second year

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Speaker 4: allows you to build on what was left and fully

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Speaker 4: realize what you've brought as well? Why not the Chargers

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Speaker 4: in the Super Bowl?

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Speaker 1: And I'm guessing based on how they did it last year,

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Speaker 1: they'll go big with this matchup. They'll give them a

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Speaker 1: good opponent. It's it's not gonna be the Titans. No

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Speaker 1: offense to the Titans, you know what I mean, Like

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Speaker 1: they're gonna they're gonna. They did it with the Packers Eagles.

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Speaker 1: They're putting the Chargers there. Chargers are giving up a

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Speaker 1: home game here to go down to South Polo, so

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Speaker 1: that I don't know if that's gonna be every single season.

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Speaker 1: The NFL hasn't committed, but now that we've done it

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Speaker 1: back to back season, the president, the precedence is there

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Speaker 1: that we might be going international on that Friday night,

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Speaker 1: and this news being announced kind of reminded me. We

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Speaker 1: hadn't hit really all these international announcements as they've been happening,

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Speaker 1: and I almost felt like my my friend Henry Hodson

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Speaker 1: just tapping my shoulder and asking me, you know, let's

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Speaker 1: give some pop. Having our first NFL game in Dublin

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Speaker 1: and you guys didn't even mention it. So that was announced.

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Speaker 1: That's happening. We don't know when, but we do know

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Speaker 1: it's the Steelers that are playing in Dublin. The Colts

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Speaker 1: are going back to Germany. I think they want to

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Speaker 1: make up for that Colts Patriots game that would that Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we're sorry, Yeah that was a little rough. And they're

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Speaker 1: going to Berlin this time. That's a first, which is

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Speaker 1: really cool. If Henry is listening, I mean, can I

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Speaker 1: can I get to one of these games?

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Speaker 2: Can I?

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Speaker 1: I mean, I would love I would love Berlin. You know,

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Speaker 1: my dad was My dad was born there. There's a

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Speaker 1: connection there. But I would take Dublin or South Paula.

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Speaker 1: Any of the above would be incredible, Hank.

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Speaker 4: What we're saying is today is Greg's birthday. Yeah, there

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Speaker 4: you go, send Greg to Berlin.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I'll all say that Dublin would be cool to Actually,

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Speaker 1: South Paolo would be cool. You go down there for

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Speaker 1: the Friday night game and then you then you fly

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Speaker 1: back on Saturday and you do you do week one.

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Speaker 2: I'm into it. I'm into all of it.

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Speaker 1: The Colts are in, the Dolphins are the first team

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Speaker 1: announced in the Madrid game. They're the home you know,

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Speaker 1: the quote unquote home team in the Madrid game. And

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Speaker 1: then our London teams this year are the Jets, the

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Speaker 1: Browns both playing at Tottenham Hotspurs Stadium, and the Jaguars

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Speaker 1: in Wembley. So I'm counting it up here. That is

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Speaker 1: seven international games. We are cranking this number up. And

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Speaker 1: it also has already been announced that the Rams are

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Speaker 1: going all the way to Australia in twenty twenty six,

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Speaker 1: so we hadn't hit like these assignments the Australia news.

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Speaker 1: The NFL is now allowed to go all the way

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Speaker 1: up to eight under the current rules, and I think

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Speaker 1: that number like that that's the minimum that it's going

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Speaker 1: to be at a certain point, and I wouldn't be

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Speaker 1: surprised if that, like we're doing seven, that's a record high.

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Speaker 1: Whether this becomes like a television package that maybe.

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Speaker 2: Is sold separately.

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Speaker 1: Now right now, NFL Network thankfully gets a lot of

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Speaker 1: these games. That Friday night game is Peacock, ESPN plus

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Speaker 1: there's different networks involved in the different games in NFL

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Speaker 1: Network has a lot of them. But you do wonder

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Speaker 1: at some point they might take all these games kind

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Speaker 1: of combine it together and make it like a separate package.

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Speaker 1: Maybe that could be Netflix, it could be anyone people

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Speaker 1: love the NFL.

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Speaker 2: Patrick.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, there's there's so many different ways that you can

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Speaker 4: slice it. As we get to seven, maybe eight, you

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Speaker 4: could have two sets of four. Maybe you know, you

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Speaker 4: could have one game on one particular platform, one half

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Speaker 4: of one game.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, don't take away our games, no, Yeah, we like

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Speaker 1: our games here.

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Speaker 4: I like waking up, rise, shining and watching with all

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Speaker 4: of you and then having you watched some highlights for

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Speaker 4: three and a half hours afterwards.

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Speaker 1: I do like that the Steelers are the Dublin team

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Speaker 1: they like claimed, yes, their territory, the Rooney's. He was

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Speaker 1: the ambassador for President Obama, mister Rooney back in the day.

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Speaker 1: And that'll be an amazing atmosphere. Man, that would be

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Speaker 1: a great one to be at. Which one if you

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Speaker 1: had to choose?

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Speaker 4: Oh, I would I would absolutely go to Ireland.

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Speaker 2: I mean that that would be your first pick, that.

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Speaker 4: That would be. That would be my number one pick

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Speaker 4: it in terms of like, fine, I guess Madrid.

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Speaker 1: I know, I think I think I'd have to go

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Speaker 1: South Polo or Madrid just because of the actual locales.

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Speaker 4: That would be quick. But yeah, if if I'm going

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Speaker 4: anywhere in Europe, it's it's going to be to to

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Speaker 4: see the folks in Ireland.

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Speaker 1: Okay, good choice. That That was our international news portion.

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Speaker 2: Of the program.

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Speaker 1: We've got offensive coordinator news and uh, they're kind of related.

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Speaker 1: We're going to get into the Saints in a second,

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Speaker 1: but we've learned that the Saints have decided on Doug

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Speaker 1: nuss Meyer as their offensive coordinator. I thought of him

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Speaker 1: as Kellen Moore's buddy essentially that has traveled with him

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Speaker 1: from Dallas to Los Angeles to Philadelphia. Wait, was he

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Speaker 1: in Dallas. He definitely was in Los Angeles, definitely in Philadelphia,

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Speaker 1: and now he is in New Orleans. But you know

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Speaker 1: him as the coach of the Crimpton Tide in Alabama.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, from twenty twelve to twenty thirteen he was the

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Speaker 4: offensive coordinator and quarterbacks coach and then before making his

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Speaker 4: way to the Cowboys, where there was that carryover with

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Speaker 4: Kellen Moore during his transition from like, you know, quarterback

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Speaker 4: who's probably coaching to just taking his health.

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Speaker 2: He broke his ankle that year.

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Speaker 1: He was supposed to be the backup to Tony Romo

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Speaker 1: and it ended up being Dak Prescott's Rookie of the

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Speaker 1: Year season.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so that solved those particular problems. But yeah, they

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Speaker 4: were able to have a little success. Ultimately came to

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Speaker 4: an and he went to Michigan after that, but Doug

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Speaker 4: nuss Meyer back in the back in the OC game.

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Speaker 4: Good to see.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this is Kellen Moore's offense. Ultimately, I think if

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Speaker 1: you're an Eagles fan, you're almost happy that he's taking

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Speaker 1: a guy that's kind of his guy and isn't necessarily

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Speaker 1: blowing up the rest of the staff. He had a

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Speaker 1: big role I think in in installing that offense and

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Speaker 1: the reporting from Philadelphia. I listened to you know, the

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Speaker 1: podcast all Phoy and they said it really was a melding. Clearly,

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Speaker 1: Nick Sirianni and Jalen Hurts and a lot of things

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Speaker 1: that they did before.

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Speaker 2: Were a big part of their office.

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Speaker 1: You could almost see it in the week that Kellen

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Speaker 1: Moore didn't have Jalen Hurts and maybe Nick Sirianni doing

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Speaker 1: so much, which was week eighteen, and then suddenly it

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Speaker 1: looked like a Kellen Moore offense. And so they go

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Speaker 1: to New Orleans and they are running that offense. We

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Speaker 1: still don't know who their DC is going to be,

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Speaker 1: but the rumors since the beginning have been Brandon Staley,

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Speaker 1: and he's back.

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Speaker 2: He still appears to be the favorite.

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Speaker 1: Jordan rod Rieg loves her some Christian Parker who is

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Speaker 1: a DB's coach with the Eagles, and he apparently is

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Speaker 1: a finalist for this the Saints JEP So they could

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Speaker 1: be hurting the Eagles staff if they decided to go

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Speaker 1: Christian Parker and not Brandon Staley. That would make me

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Speaker 1: feel more like new blood in terms of that type

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Speaker 1: of decision. Can you name the Eagle new offensive coordinator

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Speaker 1: and were you familiar with him before.

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Speaker 4: This week, before today, No, I was not.

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Speaker 1: Kevin Patulo is his name, and he's kind of Nick

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Speaker 1: Sirianni's guy. He is to Nick Sirianni what Doug nuss

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Speaker 1: Meyer is to Kellen Moore. He came with Nick to

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Speaker 1: UH from Indianapolis to Philadelphia, has always kind of been

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Speaker 1: his right hand man, the guy kind of helping to

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Speaker 1: implement what Nick wants to do. And probably if you're

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Speaker 1: in the building a guy that you kind of know

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Speaker 1: is Nick's guy for what?

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Speaker 2: For what that's worth?

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Speaker 1: Like if you're gonna be talking trash about the boss,

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Speaker 1: maybe they don't do it in front of Kevin, because

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Speaker 1: that's Nick's boy. Like that just wouldn't be smart to do.

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00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:50,760
Speaker 1: So maybe like that's a little bit of a take

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Speaker 1: away from me. It's an inexperienced play caller, guy who's

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Speaker 1: never really called plays. And it's a sign that, like,

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Speaker 1: you know, maybe Nick has a little more juice than

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Speaker 1: last offseason when he didn't get to pay his offensive coordinator.

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Speaker 4: And that's what winning a super Bowl does. He goes

654
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Speaker 4: from this perception of hey, what would you say you

655
00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:09,040
Speaker 4: do here? To is like the most. I guess like

656
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:12,240
Speaker 4: newtered coach in the entire NFL to now you know

657
00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:14,360
Speaker 4: we got his guy, paulin Plaze, he gets to be

658
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:20,720
Speaker 4: Jalen Hurts. Sixth offensive play call easy where I guess

659
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:25,400
Speaker 4: he has experience in the turnover there. I don't know

660
00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:28,680
Speaker 4: that it's it is something you feel positive about, but

661
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:31,840
Speaker 4: if any quarterback can do it, I guess it will

662
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:32,680
Speaker 4: be jail Well.

663
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Speaker 1: And it seems like Jalen Hurts has a big voice

664
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Speaker 1: in this offense because it always kind of looks the same.

665
00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:40,520
Speaker 1: That's okay, like you should be playing into the strength

666
00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:43,960
Speaker 1: of your quarterback. But like I said, Patula has been

667
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:46,120
Speaker 1: there so all the way since twenty twenty one. He's

668
00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:49,240
Speaker 1: not that young. I think he's in his young forties,

669
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Speaker 1: which for you know, today's coaches like like if they're

670
00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:56,440
Speaker 1: not like in their late twenties or thirties, they seem old.

671
00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:58,240
Speaker 1: So he has been around and I did think it

672
00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:02,800
Speaker 1: was interesting. Ian Rappaport says that Parks Fraser, who kind

673
00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:07,080
Speaker 1: of is a rising offensive assistant with the Dolphins and

674
00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:09,400
Speaker 1: is known pretty well, is actually going to replace Batulo

675
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:13,960
Speaker 1: as the pass game coordinator. There was some speculation that

676
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:17,000
Speaker 1: maybe frank Reich would come back in as like a

677
00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:21,760
Speaker 1: quarterbacks coach or past game coordinator. I suppose that's still possible,

678
00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:25,400
Speaker 1: but no, it's going to be this guy, Parks Fraser

679
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:28,840
Speaker 1: and so overall it's continuity, which is for the most part,

680
00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:31,240
Speaker 1: what you would want if you're an Eagles fan.

681
00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:34,960
Speaker 4: And I feel like maybe if things had gone wrong

682
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:37,560
Speaker 4: towards the end of the season, maybe that would be

683
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:41,680
Speaker 4: a frank Reich situation hmmm, and people would be you know,

684
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:44,440
Speaker 4: there would be all eyes on frank Reich if if

685
00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:47,160
Speaker 4: there's a two or two start again and Nick's having

686
00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:49,720
Speaker 4: fun with folks in the crowd. But but now you know,

687
00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:52,720
Speaker 4: you win Super Bowls and those those issues don't exist.

688
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:56,640
Speaker 1: And to be fair, like they made a great decision

689
00:33:56,680 --> 00:34:00,760
Speaker 1: to keep Nick Sirianni, Like they made a great decision

690
00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:04,080
Speaker 1: to hire Vic Fangio more than anything, I think something

691
00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:05,720
Speaker 1: they wanted to do for a couple of years. And

692
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:07,920
Speaker 1: I don't think that hadded anything to do really with Sirianni.

693
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:09,880
Speaker 1: But they made a great decision. So good luck to

694
00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:14,319
Speaker 1: Doug mus nuss Meyer. Kevin Patulo had some news that

695
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:18,720
Speaker 1: the projected salary cap is coming in at two hundred

696
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:21,439
Speaker 1: and seventy seven point five to two hundred and eighty

697
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:27,080
Speaker 1: one point five million dollars. For some context, that is

698
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:31,080
Speaker 1: more than was expected, like even higher than the high

699
00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:33,319
Speaker 1: end of what was expected. People thought it'd be two

700
00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:35,400
Speaker 1: sixty five to two seventy five, so it could be

701
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:38,920
Speaker 1: well over that. At a minimum, it is a twenty

702
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:44,720
Speaker 1: two million dollar increase from last year. That is a lot.

703
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:46,680
Speaker 1: It has really gone up the last couple of years.

704
00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:49,640
Speaker 1: For a few reasons, they were artificially kind of keeping

705
00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:52,760
Speaker 1: it down waiting for this this TV deal to happen.

706
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:57,360
Speaker 1: It's now happening, and it's now exponentially increasing, and it

707
00:34:57,480 --> 00:34:59,719
Speaker 1: just goes to the overall trend that I've been pointing out.

708
00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:01,440
Speaker 2: There's a lot of cap space.

709
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:05,479
Speaker 1: Like twenty twenty fifteen, teams have more than enough where

710
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:07,800
Speaker 1: cap space is sort of not an issue in a

711
00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:10,600
Speaker 1: way that is so different than the NBA, for instance.

712
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:13,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's one hundred million dollars more than it was

713
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:14,680
Speaker 4: in twenty eighteen.

714
00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:17,080
Speaker 2: That's crazy, Like that's good.

715
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:20,399
Speaker 4: Twenty eighteen not that long ago, I guess for those

716
00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:24,719
Speaker 4: of us who remember it vividly. But yeah, it's it's

717
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:27,920
Speaker 4: a lot of money shout out to collective bargaining.

718
00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:29,480
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, it has nothing to do with them being generous,

719
00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:31,960
Speaker 1: just going to as your workplace everybody. Yeah, it's just

720
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:36,879
Speaker 1: a percentage of the revenues that are coming in that

721
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:39,480
Speaker 1: has basically stayed the same. The players have gotten no

722
00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:42,600
Speaker 1: advantages there, but the revenues come in are just going

723
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:45,480
Speaker 1: way up and it's going to make it easier. These

724
00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:48,240
Speaker 1: teams that are spending all the way to the cap

725
00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:51,520
Speaker 1: but doing it kind of in a responsible, forward looking way.

726
00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:53,640
Speaker 1: I would put the Eagles in that category for instance,

727
00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:55,520
Speaker 1: like they're always spending to the cup. Those are the

728
00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:57,600
Speaker 1: teams that are doing better. Are these teams that are

729
00:35:57,640 --> 00:36:00,920
Speaker 1: carrying over too much money? Doesn't make sense? Like the

730
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:06,520
Speaker 1: Patriots have volleyed between being having terrible cap situations, so

731
00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:08,759
Speaker 1: now they have one hundred plus million, Like there's not

732
00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:11,600
Speaker 1: enough good players out there to spend them all that

733
00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:13,800
Speaker 1: and that that actually adds some context to a final

734
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:17,760
Speaker 1: news item. I just thought it was interesting Patrick Micah

735
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:24,359
Speaker 1: Parsons speaking about how he thinks he fits in the Cowboys'

736
00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:29,480
Speaker 1: new scheme and Matt Eberflus talking very confidently about how

737
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:33,120
Speaker 1: he wants to play to Michael Parsons's strength. I've been

738
00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:37,080
Speaker 1: banging this drama about maybe Micah Parsons gets traded. You know,

739
00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:40,120
Speaker 1: our insiders have said they've thought about it. The way

740
00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:43,400
Speaker 1: Parsons is talking, the way the Cowboys coaches are talking,

741
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:47,120
Speaker 1: maybe this is a little bit of a charade. It

742
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:49,600
Speaker 1: doesn't really make any sense for them to trade him.

743
00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:51,560
Speaker 1: And so I'm just kind of putting it out there

744
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:55,000
Speaker 1: that like they're they're not acting like that this is

745
00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:55,680
Speaker 1: something that's.

746
00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:57,240
Speaker 2: Going to be ending in the next couple of weeks.

747
00:36:57,280 --> 00:36:58,280
Speaker 2: Just throwing that out there.

748
00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:01,160
Speaker 4: Of all of the because we think about this pantheon

749
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:06,440
Speaker 4: of Dallas Cowboys players that have been within the Cowboys

750
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:10,120
Speaker 4: ecosystem and played at a very high level and deserve

751
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:13,360
Speaker 4: large contracts. I can't think of a more Jerry Jones

752
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:17,520
Speaker 4: player than Michael Parsons. True, I can't like a player

753
00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:21,480
Speaker 4: with his own podcast who is in the content creation

754
00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:25,080
Speaker 4: game as Jerry Jones is, who is more than a

755
00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:28,799
Speaker 4: depth at generating attention on and off the field. That

756
00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:30,960
Speaker 4: this is going to be a thing that happens for

757
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:33,879
Speaker 4: years to come. But as long as long as those

758
00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:36,520
Speaker 4: two are involved together, I think he's gonna be adellas.

759
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:38,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, he did say it will be challenging having a

760
00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:41,239
Speaker 1: new coordinator. But overall, if you if you read all

761
00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:45,759
Speaker 1: the comments that that Parsons said on his podcast, I

762
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:48,440
Speaker 1: really think this is a matter of time. Although Parsons

763
00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:51,279
Speaker 1: did not when the salary cap went up, you know,

764
00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:53,480
Speaker 1: I think he did like the eyes emoji, just like, oh,

765
00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:55,400
Speaker 1: this is good news. So I don't think we're going

766
00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:59,320
Speaker 1: to see Michael Parsons in a Cowboys uniform again until

767
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:02,000
Speaker 1: a contract to sign. That's not that's not much of

768
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:03,839
Speaker 1: a hot take. I don't think like he's not gonna

769
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:06,759
Speaker 1: be at OTA's or mini camp or training camp if

770
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:10,680
Speaker 1: the Cowboys waste you know, his time like they did

771
00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:11,719
Speaker 1: with us last year in CD.

772
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:15,520
Speaker 4: I mean, he may wear his jersey on the podcast, right,

773
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:18,200
Speaker 4: and during that whole during training camp, we're gonna have

774
00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:20,440
Speaker 4: clips on NFL Network of what Mike is saying on

775
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:22,680
Speaker 4: his podcast, and then we're going to go to Jerry

776
00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:26,960
Speaker 4: in the tower right in Oxnar and and it's ultimately

777
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:29,080
Speaker 4: going to come down to the very fat final moment

778
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:31,880
Speaker 4: until Michael Parsons is the highest played non quarterback.

779
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:34,880
Speaker 1: And okay, I agree, so I'm taking him off the

780
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:37,400
Speaker 1: trade block, right, now until I've prove another work. Shout

781
00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:42,040
Speaker 1: out to his brother Terrence, though in a series of tweets,

782
00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:44,560
Speaker 1: he noted that the two sides are very part far

783
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:50,200
Speaker 1: apart in their contract negotiations, but helpfully suggested some ways

784
00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:54,120
Speaker 1: that actually they could like free up some money like

785
00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:56,440
Speaker 1: restructuring DAK and CD and stuff like that.

786
00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:58,440
Speaker 2: Not that that's a big secret.

787
00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:00,839
Speaker 4: But they don't. But while they need to do that.

788
00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:03,480
Speaker 1: Well normally it would be what you would want to do,

789
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:05,600
Speaker 1: but they just signed those deals. It's tough to restructure,

790
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:08,239
Speaker 1: like right off the top, like well, no, no, they

791
00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:10,359
Speaker 1: would do it because you just in their mind, they're

792
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:12,720
Speaker 1: not They're not giving up any money when players restructure.

793
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:16,160
Speaker 1: When Joe Burrow is like, hey, I'll restructure, it's like, yeah, bro,

794
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:18,600
Speaker 1: you're just getting like a huge signing bonus instead of

795
00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:19,520
Speaker 1: it paid out slowly.

796
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:21,040
Speaker 2: You're not. You're not doing anyone any favor.

797
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:23,160
Speaker 4: But what I'm saying is, whatever the number is, whatever

798
00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:25,239
Speaker 4: the number of the Dallas Cowboys are willing to pay

799
00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:28,799
Speaker 4: Michael Parsons, like that's the discussion, Like this idea that like,

800
00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:31,080
Speaker 4: oh well we can't do that because you know we

801
00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:35,480
Speaker 4: got you know, the backloader overall behind the team unit.

802
00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:38,440
Speaker 4: It's like, no, the money is there, what's the number?

803
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:41,600
Speaker 4: Like that? That's what the far apart is like, just

804
00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:42,400
Speaker 4: find the number.

805
00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:46,160
Speaker 1: Right, they are the opposite of the next team we're

806
00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:49,400
Speaker 1: going to talk about. Let's put the New Orleans Saints

807
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:53,520
Speaker 1: on the cool boy because love him or hate them,

808
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:56,719
Speaker 1: the Saints do find a way to drop, you know,

809
00:39:56,840 --> 00:40:00,200
Speaker 1: ring every last drop out of that salary cap. And

810
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:05,280
Speaker 1: they are fifty four million dollars over the cap as

811
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:08,040
Speaker 1: we enter February, and we know they're going to figure

812
00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:10,920
Speaker 1: it all out. But Patrick, I'm wondering how that informs

813
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:14,160
Speaker 1: your big question about the New Orleans Saints.

814
00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:17,080
Speaker 4: My big question that I'm so glad that I can

815
00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:19,400
Speaker 4: ask it to Greg Rosenthal, who is a valued resource

816
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:23,200
Speaker 4: on today his birthday, because I have been I've had

817
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:25,279
Speaker 4: a lot of fun with the fact that Dennis Allen

818
00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:28,000
Speaker 4: was coaching this football team over the past few years. Yeah,

819
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:30,960
Speaker 4: he is no longer the head coached the New Orleans Saints.

820
00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:36,239
Speaker 4: Did the majority of the problems that the Saints had

821
00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:39,520
Speaker 4: in twenty twenty four were they solved by having Dennis

822
00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:44,840
Speaker 4: Allen no longer be a part of the football team. No, No,

823
00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:48,000
Speaker 4: I don't think so. Okay, and as much as I

824
00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:50,920
Speaker 4: got to check it back, as much as because it directly,

825
00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:54,160
Speaker 4: it directly influenced the construction of the roster. The Philadelphia

826
00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:57,800
Speaker 4: Eagles notably had two players celebrate with the Lombardi Trophy

827
00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:00,960
Speaker 4: who were New Orleans Saints, and we're no longer on

828
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:03,080
Speaker 4: the Saints strictly because.

829
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:05,879
Speaker 1: Okay, you make a good point, Zach Bond, they didn't

830
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:07,279
Speaker 1: even know how to use him, turn one to one

831
00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:10,040
Speaker 1: of the best players link and Chauncey Gardner Johnson just

832
00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:12,839
Speaker 1: couldn't manage him because you weren't a grown up enough

833
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:13,239
Speaker 1: to do so.

834
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:15,160
Speaker 4: And that was prime Okay, GJ.

835
00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:16,359
Speaker 2: That's fair. That's fair.

836
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:22,320
Speaker 4: And so there was there was a evacuation of talent.

837
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:24,919
Speaker 4: That's the hope. I guess that's the hope that's being there.

838
00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:27,400
Speaker 4: And so I would say, I would suggest, and this

839
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:29,799
Speaker 4: is my very biased opinion, despite what the number is,

840
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:32,840
Speaker 4: I understand negative fifty one million dollars looks looks like

841
00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:36,160
Speaker 4: a lot, right. The cap goes up, so that that

842
00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:39,839
Speaker 4: that changes, uh, that changes and helps a little bit.

843
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:44,200
Speaker 4: And also you can move things around. You don't have

844
00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:47,680
Speaker 4: to try to lose like the idea that you need

845
00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:49,719
Speaker 4: to go into things to say, oh, yeah, we gotta

846
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:53,280
Speaker 4: we gotta rebuild, we have to we can't pay anybody,

847
00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:56,760
Speaker 4: we can't do that. That that's not a necessary function.

848
00:41:57,120 --> 00:42:01,440
Speaker 4: And I know you're skeptical of Mickey pilot this process. Yes,

849
00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:05,120
Speaker 4: but there is a path to do it that makes sense,

850
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:07,920
Speaker 4: that still gives us something to watch. Because that's what

851
00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:08,439
Speaker 4: I care about.

852
00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:11,439
Speaker 1: I agree and they they certainly will agree with that.

853
00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:13,600
Speaker 1: My thing is just looking at this team. It's just

854
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:18,000
Speaker 1: what is this team? It just it doesn't I don't

855
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:20,279
Speaker 1: know what it is. They've changed their plan, like in

856
00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:22,400
Speaker 1: terms of what type of skill set they're looking for

857
00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:25,040
Speaker 1: in the offensive line. A bunch of times they have

858
00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:28,560
Speaker 1: a Lave in Shahed, two guys who could if you

859
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:31,600
Speaker 1: were a more forward thinking organization, and this is where

860
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:34,600
Speaker 1: they run into problems. They would be working out contract

861
00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:38,160
Speaker 1: extensions for a Lave or Shahed this offseason. Is that

862
00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:41,400
Speaker 1: going to be a priority for them? Hopefully it will be.

863
00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:43,759
Speaker 2: Maybe they'll maybe they'll turn a new leaf.

864
00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:46,840
Speaker 1: But it seems like they're always trying to figure out, Okay,

865
00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:49,680
Speaker 1: how many of these old guys still make sense. Let's

866
00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:53,879
Speaker 1: go through the list here's some players still on this roster.

867
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:58,960
Speaker 1: Cameron Jordan's big, big salary cap number, to Mario Davis,

868
00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:03,200
Speaker 1: pretty big salary cap number, Taysom Hill, pretty big salary

869
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:05,640
Speaker 1: cap number. Ryan Ramcheck is, by the way, still on

870
00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:07,359
Speaker 1: this roster, although he's going to retire or they've been

871
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:10,360
Speaker 1: keeping him. That is just a numbers thing. Tyron Matthew,

872
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:14,160
Speaker 1: does he make sense still on this roster? And then,

873
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:18,880
Speaker 1: most importantly Derek Carr, who if you cut him with

874
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:21,200
Speaker 1: a post June first cut, but then you don't get

875
00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:25,040
Speaker 1: the savings still after June, it's a thirty million dollars savings.

876
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:28,440
Speaker 1: If you find someone willing to trade for Derek Carr,

877
00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:33,520
Speaker 1: you save eleven million dollars. More importantly, you don't commit

878
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:38,120
Speaker 1: more guaranteed money to him in twenty twenty six, and

879
00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:41,520
Speaker 1: you don't pay him like forty million dollars this year,

880
00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:43,319
Speaker 1: which I just don't want. I don't want to pay

881
00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:46,400
Speaker 1: Derek Carr forty million dollars in any scenario. So unless

882
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:48,560
Speaker 1: Derek Carr is willing to take a big pay cut,

883
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:50,960
Speaker 1: I don't even want to start that negotiation.

884
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:52,200
Speaker 2: I'm just trying to get rid of him.

885
00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:55,840
Speaker 1: That's to me question number one, and all the reporting

886
00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:59,120
Speaker 1: and the whispers from our friends like Adam and Ryan

887
00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:02,360
Speaker 1: on the Saints Black Party pockets is that Mickey is

888
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:03,239
Speaker 1: a Derek Carr guy.

889
00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:05,760
Speaker 2: He is the Derek Carr guy. And Mickey being there

890
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:07,440
Speaker 2: maybe complicates.

891
00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:10,920
Speaker 4: This, but Mickey was also the he was also the

892
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:11,759
Speaker 4: Dennis Allen guy.

893
00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:14,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, and ownership came over the top on that. Well,

894
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:14,920
Speaker 1: they do it here.

895
00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:16,840
Speaker 2: I thought they would get rid of Mickey, but they didn't.

896
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:18,799
Speaker 4: He was vocal about it after the fact. And so

897
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:22,399
Speaker 4: if they can shift that change in that capacity, because

898
00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:26,799
Speaker 4: Derek Carr right now has eighteen point seventy of the

899
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:29,400
Speaker 4: of the cap right devoted to Derek Carr. And I

900
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:32,319
Speaker 4: know Cam Jordan and Taysom Hill are expensive, but that

901
00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:35,960
Speaker 4: part is claring. I don't think that you can have

902
00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:40,319
Speaker 4: Taysom Hill back right at that at that particular pay

903
00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:44,759
Speaker 4: rate and things become a little easier. Alva Kamara is

904
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:47,279
Speaker 4: not not an issue. I think Alvi Kamara is mistress now.

905
00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:50,120
Speaker 1: They just gave him a nice, big contra. They got

906
00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:52,040
Speaker 1: a bunch of bad publicity for a couple of weeks.

907
00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:53,359
Speaker 1: I don't know if you remember that. And then they

908
00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:55,120
Speaker 1: gave Alvin Kamara a ton of new money. So that

909
00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:57,799
Speaker 1: was actually a positive thing that Mickey Loomis did just

910
00:44:57,840 --> 00:44:59,200
Speaker 1: to get everyone off his back.

911
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:03,760
Speaker 4: Worked. Yeah, it worked. Do more positive things like getting perhaps,

912
00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:08,240
Speaker 4: you know, unpopular players in different spots in the league.

913
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:10,160
Speaker 1: It's not about like ripping the band aid off and

914
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:15,080
Speaker 1: looking to the future. It's just Kim Jordan is an

915
00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:19,120
Speaker 1: all time great player. The Mario Davis is too with

916
00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:22,680
Speaker 1: the Saints. Honey Badger has had a great, great career.

917
00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:25,839
Speaker 1: But they're just declining players and where are the young

918
00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:30,200
Speaker 1: good players on this team that you're building around. You

919
00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:33,640
Speaker 1: need to start finding more of those. And they have

920
00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:36,120
Speaker 1: the number nine overall pick. Highest have been nine.

921
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:38,319
Speaker 4: Excuse me, so there's ten before.

922
00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:42,800
Speaker 1: That was Yeah, Mickey limis not remembering what pick he

923
00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:45,040
Speaker 1: had back in the when he did his press conference.

924
00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:48,280
Speaker 1: They do have an extra third and fourth round pick

925
00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:51,600
Speaker 1: because of the Marshawn Lattimore trade, so that was a

926
00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:54,520
Speaker 1: nice move. Those are the types They remind me of

927
00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:56,240
Speaker 1: the Panthers in that way. It was like they need

928
00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:58,319
Speaker 1: more thirds, they need more force. They just need to

929
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:01,720
Speaker 1: like fill out this roster with some young guys because

930
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:04,200
Speaker 1: you can say, like they always figure it out. It's fine,

931
00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:07,920
Speaker 1: the cap isn't that real, But like they can't even

932
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:10,560
Speaker 1: cut most of these guys and get any savings because

933
00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:13,440
Speaker 1: they've already gone to the bank and restructured him so

934
00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:16,120
Speaker 1: many times that actually cutting them doesn't really save him

935
00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:18,960
Speaker 1: unless you do a post June first cut, and then

936
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:21,120
Speaker 1: it doesn't save it till June. And it's just like,

937
00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:23,319
Speaker 1: at some point, I do think you have to make

938
00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:25,280
Speaker 1: tough decisions with these guys that are declining.

939
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:26,600
Speaker 2: There's a few of them on the roster.

940
00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:32,040
Speaker 4: Obviously, a trade for car would be the valued option.

941
00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:34,200
Speaker 1: Right, could you get like a six to seventh swap.

942
00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:37,040
Speaker 1: He's not gonna get much for him, but yeah, I mean.

943
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:41,840
Speaker 4: There's somebody's gonna need a quarterback at this at this juncture,

944
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:44,200
Speaker 4: I think you've you can convince some of these teams,

945
00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:47,120
Speaker 4: perhaps the team, one of the teams in New York,

946
00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:48,160
Speaker 4: but roster.

947
00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:49,480
Speaker 2: Would anyone trade for him?

948
00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:49,680
Speaker 4: Though?

949
00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:52,960
Speaker 1: With that contract, I think he defines to me the

950
00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:54,440
Speaker 1: type of guy you're like, let's just wait till you

951
00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:56,560
Speaker 1: get cut, you know, like I'm not giving up, because

952
00:46:56,640 --> 00:46:58,759
Speaker 1: then you have to deal with that contract. Okay, then

953
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:01,520
Speaker 1: you have to negotiate him to take a pay cut.

954
00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:03,560
Speaker 1: It's just complicated. I don't think anyone wants to pay

955
00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:04,960
Speaker 1: Derek Carr thirty plus mine.

956
00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:06,680
Speaker 4: Okay, So if you're playing that game of chicken, do

957
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:08,200
Speaker 4: you just start Derek Carr as your.

958
00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:09,879
Speaker 2: Quarterback if you're the Saint.

959
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:14,080
Speaker 1: If you're the Saint, No, because I wouldn't because, like

960
00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:16,520
Speaker 1: I said, it guarantees money into next year, and you're

961
00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:19,399
Speaker 1: actually paying him that money this year, even if it's

962
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:22,160
Speaker 1: not a ton of cap cap savings. I just don't

963
00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:24,200
Speaker 1: want to be paying him thirty million dollars. Let's start

964
00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:26,360
Speaker 1: spending that money. Like, if you're going to be spending

965
00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:28,560
Speaker 1: that cash, spend it on the Kris Olavey or Rashid

966
00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:33,000
Speaker 1: Shaheed extensions. Do it on stuff like that. Let's move forward.

967
00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:37,440
Speaker 1: You want to know some top free agents from this team. Yeah,

968
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:42,839
Speaker 1: Paulson Adebo, who was potentially gonna get a big cut

969
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:45,239
Speaker 1: like it, could have gotten a big contract from the

970
00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:48,800
Speaker 1: Saints after his third season. Unfortunately, in his fourth season,

971
00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:52,719
Speaker 1: started out very slowly, was having a rough first month

972
00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:55,360
Speaker 1: of the season, and then he suffered a serious injury.

973
00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:57,640
Speaker 1: I still have him relatively high because he's a young

974
00:47:57,680 --> 00:48:01,120
Speaker 1: player who's shown a high level production. So I think

975
00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:03,279
Speaker 1: some team will take a shot. Maybe Dennis Allen in

976
00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:07,000
Speaker 1: Chicago wouldn't surprise me. And then Chase Young is a

977
00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:08,840
Speaker 1: free agent who came in and kind of did what

978
00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:11,600
Speaker 1: you expelled here. Yeah, it was solid. He's a top

979
00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:15,399
Speaker 1: fifty free agent. I think we're stopping waiting for Chase

980
00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:17,440
Speaker 1: Young to be any different than he is. But he

981
00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:22,680
Speaker 1: can he be like late career Genevian Clowney. Maybe not quite, but.

982
00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:26,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, that would be the absolute ceiling, right like twenty

983
00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:28,400
Speaker 4: twenty four Jadevian Clowney.

984
00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:33,479
Speaker 1: That's yeah, that's fine. He's gonna have a good career.

985
00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:35,080
Speaker 1: He was the number two overall pick, but he had

986
00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:37,960
Speaker 1: some serious injuries. What do you think this team's biggest

987
00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:41,560
Speaker 1: need is if you look up and down the roster,

988
00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:46,000
Speaker 1: what is something they just lack that screams depth?

989
00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:48,080
Speaker 4: Right? Because he talked to he talked about the age

990
00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:51,839
Speaker 4: of some of the guys that were on their way out,

991
00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:59,359
Speaker 4: Ramchick occupying the space even right in retirement with.

992
00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:02,280
Speaker 2: That Repetting revived Trevor Petting.

993
00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:07,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, supposedly, but that that's really what they just need talent.

994
00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:09,680
Speaker 4: I think back to that Trevor Penning draft where it's

995
00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:13,400
Speaker 4: it's very very difficult to draft the player that you

996
00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:16,680
Speaker 4: need at the position that you need, that is the

997
00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:18,960
Speaker 4: best player for you to take at that point, Like

998
00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:20,640
Speaker 4: to to kind.

999
00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:22,960
Speaker 1: Of thread that needle is very difficult and give up

1000
00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:24,480
Speaker 1: extra picks to do so.

1001
00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:28,720
Speaker 4: So so just stop drafting for need find unique talents

1002
00:49:28,719 --> 00:49:31,000
Speaker 4: that you can get on your team. But because you're

1003
00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:33,880
Speaker 4: able to find them, like Rashi Shaheed, everybody miss on

1004
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:36,399
Speaker 4: Mashie Shaheed and he found his way to New Orleans,

1005
00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:39,799
Speaker 4: and so you just try to locate that that unique talent.

1006
00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:40,840
Speaker 4: But the team fell apart.

1007
00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:43,000
Speaker 1: I just don't know. I don't know what this team is.

1008
00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:45,799
Speaker 1: I think they need everything except for running back. They're

1009
00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:48,960
Speaker 1: they're good at running back, linebacker. I guess they feel

1010
00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:52,400
Speaker 1: good enough about Pete Warner to Mario Davis left tackle.

1011
00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:55,160
Speaker 2: They found one, and then they definitely need some pass rushing.

1012
00:49:55,480 --> 00:49:57,600
Speaker 4: Juwan Johnson's gonna be a free agent.

1013
00:49:57,680 --> 00:49:58,680
Speaker 2: Good point forgot about.

1014
00:49:58,760 --> 00:50:02,200
Speaker 1: Joelesson's a tight end as well, top probably the top

1015
00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:06,320
Speaker 1: tight end available. It's either him or Gaseki or Tyler Conklin.

1016
00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:09,120
Speaker 1: Not a lot of good, yeah, a lot of good

1017
00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:12,240
Speaker 1: one yeah, not a lot of good Free agent tight ends.

1018
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:16,440
Speaker 1: It's Juwan Johnson, Tyler Conklin, and Gaseki are both between

1019
00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:19,560
Speaker 1: like sixty and one hundred on my top one on one.

1020
00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:23,279
Speaker 1: All right, we're gonna wrap up the NFC South with

1021
00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:31,799
Speaker 1: the Falcons here. And my question with the Falcons basically,

1022
00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:39,239
Speaker 1: can they fix this defense in one offseason? Because I

1023
00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:44,239
Speaker 1: just don't think they're gonna be patient. Rahie Morris is

1024
00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:47,640
Speaker 1: a defensive coach and the defense needs a lot of work.

1025
00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:51,080
Speaker 1: They're just not gonna, I think, have the resources. They

1026
00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:54,080
Speaker 1: don't have a lot of picks to change the offense

1027
00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:56,960
Speaker 1: month much. The offense looks pretty good on paper overall.

1028
00:50:57,680 --> 00:51:00,320
Speaker 1: But can they fix this defense in one off season?

1029
00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:03,759
Speaker 1: And it's going to have to mostly be through free

1030
00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:08,560
Speaker 1: agency in trades because they don't have a ton of

1031
00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:10,680
Speaker 1: draft capital. I mean, they would be through the draft

1032
00:51:10,680 --> 00:51:12,360
Speaker 1: tube less than other teams.

1033
00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:16,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's context dependent. They can they fix the defense?

1034
00:51:16,040 --> 00:51:19,880
Speaker 4: Can they compete with the defense as it's projected to

1035
00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:22,600
Speaker 4: be structured in twenty twenty five? Yes, I think they

1036
00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:24,480
Speaker 4: can be a competitive football team.

1037
00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:27,359
Speaker 1: I disagree they need to add a lot right now.

1038
00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:29,080
Speaker 1: So the extent that they were in twenty twenty four

1039
00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:32,920
Speaker 1: good well they're missing, then they're also losing a couple

1040
00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:35,439
Speaker 1: of players. Justin Simmons is a free agent.

1041
00:51:35,560 --> 00:51:37,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, they're brought in Simmons for a year.

1042
00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:39,120
Speaker 1: I think they're going to have to cut either On

1043
00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:43,839
Speaker 1: Yamada or Grady Jarrett just for cap reasons. That would

1044
00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:47,680
Speaker 1: be painful. Matthew Judon is a free agent. Mike Cues

1045
00:51:47,680 --> 00:51:49,000
Speaker 1: playing a lot for them. He's a free agent.

1046
00:51:49,040 --> 00:51:51,040
Speaker 2: So I don't know. It's just a rough looking defense

1047
00:51:51,080 --> 00:51:51,520
Speaker 2: on paper.

1048
00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:56,239
Speaker 4: Yes, it's it's rough, but I think projecting right this

1049
00:51:56,320 --> 00:51:59,440
Speaker 4: next year of Bijon with Michael PENNOCKX junior with an

1050
00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:03,799
Speaker 4: entire season going in as the starter, I think the

1051
00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:09,040
Speaker 4: offense is in a position where they don't necessarily need

1052
00:52:09,080 --> 00:52:13,560
Speaker 4: a top ten defense. It's be competitive. I think Raheem

1053
00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:16,719
Speaker 4: and his group can can get this defense in the

1054
00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:20,799
Speaker 4: seventeen eighteens nineteen okay, and that would be actional NFL TA.

1055
00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:23,960
Speaker 4: I don't think it's as bad like I don't think

1056
00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:27,200
Speaker 4: they're twenty twenty four Carolina Panthers bad, right.

1057
00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:33,680
Speaker 1: I think they're personally wise. They have Raheem Morris who's

1058
00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:38,880
Speaker 1: done a good job coaching up lesser talented teams but

1059
00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:41,640
Speaker 1: just talent wise, if you took the coaching out of it,

1060
00:52:42,080 --> 00:52:44,200
Speaker 1: they're pretty bottom of the barrel. And in the end,

1061
00:52:44,280 --> 00:52:48,160
Speaker 1: they finished twenty ninth in DVOA last year. You know, overall,

1062
00:52:48,280 --> 00:52:51,000
Speaker 1: they were a bad defense. Like if they if they

1063
00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:55,080
Speaker 1: had that seventeenth ranked defense that you were talking about, like,

1064
00:52:55,120 --> 00:52:57,200
Speaker 1: they would have probably won the NFC South.

1065
00:52:58,640 --> 00:52:58,920
Speaker 2: Something.

1066
00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:01,719
Speaker 1: I mean, they came close, right, they almost did it. Anyways,

1067
00:53:02,520 --> 00:53:04,320
Speaker 1: here's just a little big picture.

1068
00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:04,560
Speaker 4: Look.

1069
00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:08,600
Speaker 1: They are missing their third round pick because of what

1070
00:53:08,719 --> 00:53:12,000
Speaker 1: turned out to be a disastrous Matthew Juden trade.

1071
00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:12,800
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1072
00:53:12,840 --> 00:53:15,040
Speaker 1: If Judaan get gets a job this year, he might

1073
00:53:15,080 --> 00:53:18,160
Speaker 1: be he might be out of the league. They lost

1074
00:53:18,239 --> 00:53:22,360
Speaker 1: a fifth round pick for tampering with Kirk Cousins. That

1075
00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:26,400
Speaker 1: was pretty disastrous all the way around. They lost a

1076
00:53:26,440 --> 00:53:30,200
Speaker 1: sixth round pick for Van Jefferson, which you know whatever,

1077
00:53:30,719 --> 00:53:33,520
Speaker 1: and I mean, I'm not going to kill him for it,

1078
00:53:33,560 --> 00:53:35,200
Speaker 1: but it wasn't a good move overall.

1079
00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:36,480
Speaker 2: He hasn't helped him.

1080
00:53:36,640 --> 00:53:39,200
Speaker 1: And then they have eleven point nine million dollars in

1081
00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:44,080
Speaker 1: cap space right now, middle lower of the pack. They

1082
00:53:44,080 --> 00:53:47,360
Speaker 1: are spending one hundred and seventy plus million dollars on

1083
00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:51,040
Speaker 1: their offense and barely over one hundred on their defense,

1084
00:53:51,160 --> 00:53:53,640
Speaker 1: and that is largely because of Kirk Cousins. And to me,

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00:53:53,760 --> 00:53:57,720
Speaker 1: that's that's a that's a big decision or a big

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00:53:57,880 --> 00:53:59,719
Speaker 1: thing they got to make happen, because I think they've

1087
00:53:59,719 --> 00:54:03,320
Speaker 1: already made their decision. Can they get someone to trade

1088
00:54:03,320 --> 00:54:06,359
Speaker 1: for kirk Cousins and and how much will that save

1089
00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:09,600
Speaker 1: them against the cap? On paper, it would save seven

1090
00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:12,200
Speaker 1: million dollars against cap, so that's something. But they would

1091
00:54:12,200 --> 00:54:16,120
Speaker 1: still have thirty seven million dollars in dead cap money

1092
00:54:16,160 --> 00:54:20,000
Speaker 1: for kirk Cousins, just a couple years after they had

1093
00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:23,720
Speaker 1: about fifty plus for Matt Ryan. Having thirty seven plus

1094
00:54:23,760 --> 00:54:28,840
Speaker 1: for kirk Cousins is bad management. It's it's like making

1095
00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:32,240
Speaker 1: the same sort of mistake twice in a short period.

1096
00:54:32,360 --> 00:54:33,759
Speaker 2: It just it just didn't work out.

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00:54:34,560 --> 00:54:39,000
Speaker 4: Now you have to take those swings though, right the

1098
00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:42,120
Speaker 4: the the Achilles. The Achilles tair of course is going

1099
00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:44,920
Speaker 4: to be pre eminent in all of this, but the

1100
00:54:44,960 --> 00:54:49,520
Speaker 4: Falcons weren't the only team to make offerings to kirk Cousins.

1101
00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:52,680
Speaker 4: And you know, we gotta we gotta get rid of

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00:54:52,680 --> 00:54:54,600
Speaker 4: this whole tampering idea, the whole the whole thing is

1103
00:54:54,640 --> 00:54:57,200
Speaker 4: so nebulous. I can't believe, Like we've seen teams too

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00:54:57,280 --> 00:54:59,759
Speaker 4: far worse things. Yeah and not and not.

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00:54:59,800 --> 00:55:01,759
Speaker 1: Say the only problem was that he talked about it

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00:55:01,800 --> 00:55:05,440
Speaker 1: on the podium and then Florio wrote an article about it. Honestly,

1107
00:55:05,440 --> 00:55:07,320
Speaker 1: if like Florio didn't write an article about it, I

1108
00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:10,040
Speaker 1: don't know if they even get that pick take it away.

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00:55:10,040 --> 00:55:11,080
Speaker 4: Now I hate it even more.

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Speaker 2: Greg, I'm just guessing.

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00:55:12,840 --> 00:55:14,799
Speaker 1: I actually don't even know that that was how it

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00:55:14,840 --> 00:55:18,080
Speaker 1: all happened, but I'm I just feel like he talked

1113
00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:20,120
Speaker 1: about it on the podium and then Floria is like,

1114
00:55:20,160 --> 00:55:21,920
Speaker 1: isn't that tampering? And they're like, well, I guess we

1115
00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:23,960
Speaker 1: got to take away as we have.

1116
00:55:24,080 --> 00:55:26,080
Speaker 4: We have to have this rule in place to justify

1117
00:55:26,200 --> 00:55:28,799
Speaker 4: agents taking what they take, because they have to be

1118
00:55:28,800 --> 00:55:30,799
Speaker 4: the ones to have these conversations. And if players are

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00:55:30,800 --> 00:55:33,640
Speaker 4: trying to represent themselves, then they're in a fundamental disadvantage

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Speaker 4: because they can't have these things. Because so why else

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00:55:36,280 --> 00:55:38,960
Speaker 4: does the rule exist anywhere?

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00:55:40,280 --> 00:55:44,080
Speaker 1: Tampering is is a big problem in this society. Who's

1123
00:55:44,080 --> 00:55:47,479
Speaker 1: going to tamper with Drew Dollman. So let's look at

1124
00:55:47,640 --> 00:55:49,680
Speaker 1: some big questions for this team. The big free agents

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00:55:49,719 --> 00:55:52,520
Speaker 1: I mentioned, you know, not a ton on defense. Justin Simmons,

1126
00:55:52,640 --> 00:55:54,560
Speaker 1: Mike Hues, two guys who helped them out. You know,

1127
00:55:54,760 --> 00:55:56,759
Speaker 1: I would think you would want to bring back Justin

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00:55:56,800 --> 00:55:58,640
Speaker 1: Simmons at the right price.

1129
00:55:58,800 --> 00:56:01,040
Speaker 2: He was he was good for them overall.

1130
00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:04,560
Speaker 1: Drew Dahlman is a guy that not a lot of

1131
00:56:04,560 --> 00:56:06,719
Speaker 1: our listeners might be familiar with. He was a fourth

1132
00:56:06,840 --> 00:56:10,239
Speaker 1: round pick in twenty one. Since he took over the

1133
00:56:10,280 --> 00:56:15,719
Speaker 1: starting job in his second season, he's played almost every game.

1134
00:56:15,760 --> 00:56:17,960
Speaker 1: Missed some time in twenty twenty four, but he started

1135
00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:21,160
Speaker 1: every game that he was available. Is thought of as

1136
00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:24,840
Speaker 1: one of the better run blocking guards in the league.

1137
00:56:25,120 --> 00:56:30,480
Speaker 1: He's kind of the prototypical smaller move guy that you

1138
00:56:30,560 --> 00:56:33,279
Speaker 1: want in a zone scheme. Maybe not as good, you know,

1139
00:56:33,520 --> 00:56:37,480
Speaker 1: stopping pass rushers, which usually is the thing that you want,

1140
00:56:37,520 --> 00:56:40,040
Speaker 1: but if you're surrounded by a couple big guards, I

1141
00:56:40,080 --> 00:56:44,680
Speaker 1: could see that being a very attractive package that multiple

1142
00:56:44,680 --> 00:56:47,800
Speaker 1: teams could be looking for this offsene. Maybe the Packers,

1143
00:56:47,800 --> 00:56:51,680
Speaker 1: I'll throw out one. The Seahawks might be another. They

1144
00:56:51,680 --> 00:56:56,600
Speaker 1: have Clint Kubiak. It's a similar system. Drew Dolman talking

1145
00:56:56,640 --> 00:56:59,040
Speaker 1: to people around the league, like he is going to

1146
00:56:59,120 --> 00:57:03,040
Speaker 1: get like a starting offensive lineman type of what who

1147
00:57:03,120 --> 00:57:05,560
Speaker 1: got twenty million dollars a year? But Drew Dallman will

1148
00:57:05,560 --> 00:57:07,719
Speaker 1: be that guy. He is absolutely getting that. I don't

1149
00:57:07,719 --> 00:57:09,920
Speaker 1: think the Falcons are going to be able to afford

1150
00:57:10,000 --> 00:57:10,960
Speaker 1: to keep him.

1151
00:57:11,280 --> 00:57:15,680
Speaker 4: And that's and that's another problem with making the not

1152
00:57:15,719 --> 00:57:19,040
Speaker 4: necessarily bad investments. I mean, Kirk Cousins being one of

1153
00:57:19,120 --> 00:57:21,920
Speaker 4: the worst right that you can make. But I see

1154
00:57:21,960 --> 00:57:24,160
Speaker 4: a case right for being in positions that they are

1155
00:57:24,160 --> 00:57:29,400
Speaker 4: with Amnyamada and Grady Jared's contracts where things didn't necessarily

1156
00:57:29,440 --> 00:57:31,040
Speaker 4: go the way that you would have wanted them to

1157
00:57:31,080 --> 00:57:34,280
Speaker 4: go in twenty twenty four. But you have to give

1158
00:57:34,400 --> 00:57:39,720
Speaker 4: up on like guys in that range, like between twenty

1159
00:57:39,720 --> 00:57:42,920
Speaker 4: five and in twenty eight, who are playing good football

1160
00:57:43,000 --> 00:57:45,880
Speaker 4: that other teams would like to have. Are if things

1161
00:57:45,920 --> 00:57:49,240
Speaker 4: are operated on a good level money wise, you shouldn't

1162
00:57:49,280 --> 00:57:51,520
Speaker 4: have to see those players go be successful elsewhere.

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00:57:51,520 --> 00:57:54,160
Speaker 1: Well, that that's true, And I saw Grady Jared pop

1164
00:57:54,280 --> 00:57:56,600
Speaker 1: up on our NFL dot Com cut candidate's list, and

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00:57:56,640 --> 00:57:59,480
Speaker 1: I was really surprised because when you think Falcons, you

1166
00:57:59,480 --> 00:58:02,400
Speaker 1: think Grady Jarrett and considering he was coming back from

1167
00:58:02,400 --> 00:58:05,080
Speaker 1: a big time injury. I thought he made some plays

1168
00:58:05,080 --> 00:58:07,720
Speaker 1: and maybe wasn't the old Grady Jarrett. But they would

1169
00:58:07,760 --> 00:58:12,800
Speaker 1: save sixteen million dollars in cap savings pre June first

1170
00:58:12,880 --> 00:58:15,320
Speaker 1: by cutting him, and so that will be a consideration

1171
00:58:15,400 --> 00:58:20,280
Speaker 1: on Yamada. I thought he's he's been a classic one

1172
00:58:20,320 --> 00:58:24,120
Speaker 1: good year, one disastrous year type of career and they

1173
00:58:24,120 --> 00:58:26,320
Speaker 1: could save about eight million dollars for cutting him, so

1174
00:58:26,360 --> 00:58:29,200
Speaker 1: they might, I mean, don't cut Grady Jarrett. No, people

1175
00:58:29,240 --> 00:58:32,600
Speaker 1: have Grady Jarrett jerseys, probably a lot of them. Yeah,

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00:58:32,600 --> 00:58:35,680
Speaker 1: And that's why you know, the Cousins miss hurt so bad.

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Speaker 4: Where you've you got somebody who's like associated with the

1178
00:58:39,240 --> 00:58:41,360
Speaker 4: team for like an off season and then a few

1179
00:58:41,400 --> 00:58:43,680
Speaker 4: weeks of the season and then it's it's just over

1180
00:58:43,720 --> 00:58:46,760
Speaker 4: and you're having to say goodbye to like a franchise cornerstone.

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Speaker 1: And when I look at the needs around the team,

1182
00:58:48,600 --> 00:58:52,160
Speaker 1: we basically have pointed it out. There's not a position

1183
00:58:52,720 --> 00:58:55,440
Speaker 1: that they don't need on defense, maybe off ball, linebacker

1184
00:58:55,480 --> 00:58:57,600
Speaker 1: they're happy with. Katon Ellis was awesome, and then Troy

1185
00:58:57,640 --> 00:59:00,000
Speaker 1: Anderson was not awesome as their second guy.

1186
00:58:59,880 --> 00:59:02,120
Speaker 2: But he's a young player at least, But.

1187
00:59:02,120 --> 00:59:06,360
Speaker 1: Man for the million straight year ever since John Abraham

1188
00:59:06,440 --> 00:59:09,200
Speaker 1: was there. The Falcons need an edge player. So in

1189
00:59:09,240 --> 00:59:12,880
Speaker 1: this draft and in free agency, they need an edge player.

1190
00:59:12,920 --> 00:59:15,200
Speaker 1: And then I just looked at some contracts they could

1191
00:59:15,200 --> 00:59:18,240
Speaker 1: get done. Drake London, you know, is eligible for a

1192
00:59:18,240 --> 00:59:22,120
Speaker 1: contract extension. Get we've been talking about getting contracts done early.

1193
00:59:22,200 --> 00:59:24,160
Speaker 1: That needs to be a guy who's who's part of

1194
00:59:24,200 --> 00:59:27,360
Speaker 1: your future. And if Kyle Pitts is not part of

1195
00:59:27,440 --> 00:59:30,680
Speaker 1: your future, he's not a crazy guy to think about

1196
00:59:30,720 --> 00:59:32,800
Speaker 1: in terms of a trade. If you could get a

1197
00:59:32,840 --> 00:59:36,520
Speaker 1: decent pick, I don't think that's crazy. If you kind

1198
00:59:36,520 --> 00:59:38,640
Speaker 1: of are making the decision he's not for us in

1199
00:59:38,720 --> 00:59:42,040
Speaker 1: twenty twenty six, Could I get a defensive player for

1200
00:59:42,440 --> 00:59:47,400
Speaker 1: Kyle Pitts restart the clock or like a veteran defense player,

1201
00:59:47,440 --> 00:59:48,200
Speaker 1: I don't think that's crazy.

1202
00:59:48,400 --> 00:59:50,280
Speaker 4: Or you write a number down and slaughtered across the

1203
00:59:50,280 --> 00:59:54,600
Speaker 4: table and see if Kyle will sign it, right? Is

1204
00:59:54,680 --> 00:59:55,640
Speaker 4: that insane? No?

1205
00:59:55,720 --> 00:59:58,960
Speaker 1: At this point, no, it's got to be. It's not

1206
00:59:59,080 --> 01:00:01,560
Speaker 1: top five tight money though. I'm just not convinced in

1207
01:00:01,640 --> 01:00:05,680
Speaker 1: him as a player to up and down. And uh yeah,

1208
01:00:05,760 --> 01:00:07,840
Speaker 1: the Alfred's another guy who's been pretty good for them

1209
01:00:07,840 --> 01:00:09,920
Speaker 1: that they could probably get to sign long term. That

1210
01:00:10,960 --> 01:00:15,400
Speaker 1: is your Atlanta Falcons in New Orleans Saints messy recap

1211
01:00:15,440 --> 01:00:18,640
Speaker 1: these are they hate each other with Patrick and they're

1212
01:00:19,200 --> 01:00:23,000
Speaker 1: they're similarly messy. You thought I was kind of putting

1213
01:00:23,400 --> 01:00:27,320
Speaker 1: the NFC South in a spot that I shouldn't.

1214
01:00:27,400 --> 01:00:29,560
Speaker 4: No, Well, in hindsight and looking back at it, I

1215
01:00:29,880 --> 01:00:32,720
Speaker 4: know you love this division. I do know, and you

1216
01:00:32,760 --> 01:00:36,520
Speaker 4: want better, uh, specifically for the Falcons in the Saints

1217
01:00:37,640 --> 01:00:38,520
Speaker 4: something again.

1218
01:00:38,360 --> 01:00:42,840
Speaker 2: I do, but you know, as I don't remember if

1219
01:00:42,840 --> 01:00:44,360
Speaker 2: it was Big Boy who.

1220
01:00:44,160 --> 01:00:46,520
Speaker 1: Said it, the South got something to say like we

1221
01:00:46,520 --> 01:00:49,120
Speaker 1: we got we gotta get going this NFC South.

1222
01:00:49,160 --> 01:00:50,600
Speaker 2: But yes, I made a choice.

1223
01:00:50,920 --> 01:00:54,360
Speaker 1: It was strategic and and we're putting our NFC North

1224
01:00:55,040 --> 01:00:58,200
Speaker 1: let's go off season preview up on Friday.

1225
01:00:58,400 --> 01:01:00,360
Speaker 2: And you want to know why that is playing the

1226
01:01:00,440 --> 01:01:04,760
Speaker 2: music because the Friday one, it sits.

1227
01:01:04,560 --> 01:01:07,800
Speaker 1: There longer, you know, Saturday, Sunday sometimes with it Monday morning.

1228
01:01:07,880 --> 01:01:12,680
Speaker 1: This end, which has more like primetime players, good teams

1229
01:01:12,840 --> 01:01:13,600
Speaker 1: fighting for a season.

1230
01:01:13,600 --> 01:01:15,160
Speaker 2: I think it's the NFC, right, I think that's more

1231
01:01:15,160 --> 01:01:15,400
Speaker 2: of a.

1232
01:01:15,360 --> 01:01:19,880
Speaker 1: Friday Okay, hey, look when we're quoting big Boy here,

1233
01:01:21,120 --> 01:01:22,600
Speaker 1: it's regular season.

1234
01:01:27,200 --> 01:01:33,600
Speaker 4: We're all disgusting sickos football oohs and our poores. Old pizza.

1235
01:01:34,440 --> 01:01:37,800
Speaker 4: Just what can I eat? Just mowing on some ritz

1236
01:01:37,840 --> 01:01:40,040
Speaker 4: crackers with some cheese, just so we could have some

1237
01:01:40,080 --> 01:01:40,720
Speaker 4: more football