Speaker 1: You're listening to in the Vets Office with doctor Josie Horschak.
Speaker 2: All right, welcome to in the Vets Office. I am
Speaker 2: your host, Doctor Josie, and I am so excited about
Speaker 2: this week's episode. We have the infamous og social media sensation,
Speaker 2: Doug the Pug coming on. He I'm pretty sure is
Speaker 2: the most followed dog in the world, and we have
Speaker 2: produced a Morgan here today.
Speaker 3: Hello. Not nearest important as Doug the Pug.
Speaker 2: Doug the Pug takes the cake, but you're a pretty
Speaker 2: close second.
Speaker 3: Glad to be here.
Speaker 2: So before we jump into our interview with Doug, we
Speaker 2: are going to do our case of the week. So
Speaker 2: this case happened back when I was living in downtown Chicago.
Speaker 2: I was a fairly young veterinarian. It was just another
Speaker 2: boring day in the office when all of a sudden,
Speaker 2: this young man comes in very shaken up, in shambles.
Speaker 2: He had been out on his patio drinking his morning coffee,
Speaker 2: reading his newspaper, and all of a sudden a cat
Speaker 2: came falling out of the sky, Oh my god, and
Speaker 2: onto the table of his patio. This cat lived twelve
Speaker 2: stories above him, and his owner had often let him
Speaker 2: out onto the balcony. He would just kind of sunbathe
Speaker 2: and hang. But on this day a bird flew by
Speaker 2: and he got a wild hair and decided he was
Speaker 2: going to go catch that bird. So he jumped up
Speaker 2: onto the railing, made the leap of faith, and gravity
Speaker 2: took over and he went down twelve stories to this
Speaker 2: man's patio.
Speaker 1: Did this cat live?
Speaker 2: This cat lived, So when they say cats have nine lives,
Speaker 2: they truly mean it. The things that cats indoor and
Speaker 2: then come out on the other side is amazing. This
Speaker 2: is just one of the examples. The cat came in.
Speaker 2: It was in shock. It had a broken jaw, a
Speaker 2: broken leg.
Speaker 3: Very when you say it's in shock, what is an
Speaker 3: animal in shock?
Speaker 2: Look like being in shock is a medical term meeting
Speaker 2: like your blood pressure is affected, your heart rates affected,
Speaker 2: you're dehydrated. So usually they have like really pale gums,
Speaker 2: their heart rate can be through the roof, their blood
Speaker 2: pressure is low. So he kind of checked all those boxes.
Speaker 3: Do you immediately look at this cat and go hmmm,
Speaker 3: oh it's aron great, or he's got a fighting chance.
Speaker 2: This is uh yeah. I was like, this is probably
Speaker 2: not going to end up well. But you never know
Speaker 2: it's a cat. I'm telling you, they are survivors. Survivors.
Speaker 2: So the owner wasn't there. So the guy you know,
Speaker 2: brings the cat, comes running to the clinic. He was
Speaker 2: only just a couple high rises away.
Speaker 3: Good on him for bringing the cat that wasn't his
Speaker 3: into the office.
Speaker 2: Yes, he puts that bill And funny enough, the cat
Speaker 2: was one of our patients. So he just happened to
Speaker 2: bring it to the right clinic odds. And we immediately
Speaker 2: start stabilizing it and taking X rays and doing all
Speaker 2: the things, giving it oxygen and fluids and doing life
Speaker 2: saving procedures on it. And and somehow the owner, I
Speaker 2: can't remember if he got a hold of the owner,
Speaker 2: but the owner finds out, she comes in and we
Speaker 2: were able to you know, he had to have surgery
Speaker 2: on his broken bones, but we were able to save
Speaker 2: his life.
Speaker 3: First off, claps for doctor Josie and I don't want
Speaker 3: to pet parents. Shame. But the owner wasn't home and
Speaker 3: they let their cat on the balcony.
Speaker 2: The owner was home, but it's like you leave your
Speaker 2: little sliding door open. A lot a lot of owners
Speaker 2: do this in the city. We saw this all the time.
Speaker 2: In Chicago, where you leave the balcony open, pets come
Speaker 2: in and out. Even here in Nashville, I see it
Speaker 2: and they kind of come and go at their leisure,
Speaker 2: usually while the parents home, And ninety nine percent of
Speaker 2: the time they're fine.
Speaker 1: But that one percent do you.
Speaker 3: Go home that day and just feel like you really
Speaker 3: rock that shit?
Speaker 2: I go home that day and I'm like, oh my gosh,
Speaker 2: that was I don't know. I don't think I rocked
Speaker 2: that shit. I think about the owner. I'm like, gosh,
Speaker 2: they must feel so guilty. You think about the man
Speaker 2: drinking his coffee now as PTSD of cats falling out
Speaker 2: of this. Sometimes I'll pat myself on the back every
Speaker 2: once in a while, but for the most part, I'm
Speaker 2: like reeling from how emotional everyone else must feel.
Speaker 3: I bet it took that man a few weeks to
Speaker 3: be able to go back on his patio after that.
Speaker 3: Talk about the PTSD.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, you're getting the therapists after this. So now I was, Yeah,
Speaker 2: I was a reminder for me, if you're sending your
Speaker 2: pets out onto the balcony, please keep a very very
Speaker 2: very very close eye on them. And uh, I guess
Speaker 2: if you're sitting on the tenth floor. Maybe we're a helmet.
Speaker 1: Be careful.
Speaker 3: Oh man, that's a really great pace of the week.
Speaker 2: It was, And now we'll just dive right into our
Speaker 2: our interview. So, as I said, we have Doug the
Speaker 2: Pug coming on and his sister Dory. She's a new
Speaker 2: addition to the family, and of course his mom, Leslie,
Speaker 2: who will be answering the questions for him. Doug is,
Speaker 2: as you know, the og social media pet sensation.
Speaker 1: He has paved the way for.
Speaker 2: The likes of like Mispeaches and all of these you
Speaker 2: know pets that we've come to know and love on
Speaker 2: Instagram and TikTok. He has over eighteen million followers across
Speaker 2: his social media platforms and he is probably the most
Speaker 2: famous dog in the world.
Speaker 3: So it's more successful than we'll probably ever be.
Speaker 1: Oh he is more. We will never come a tenth
Speaker 1: of us clothes. That's the successful bug walked.
Speaker 2: So Alex Earl could run exactly exactly, and that's the
Speaker 2: perfect segue. We're gonna take a quick break and when
Speaker 2: we get back, we'll have Doug here.
Speaker 3: Awesome all right.
Speaker 2: In the Vets office, we have Doug the Pug, who's
Speaker 2: here today with his mom, Leslie, and his baby sister Dorry.
Speaker 2: I'm so excited to have you guys.
Speaker 1: Story's podcast debut. Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2: I mean, Doug is a he is a veteran in this,
Speaker 2: He's like, I'm over it. But Dory's here. She is
Speaker 2: ready to go, so I'm excited. It's her first podcast.
Speaker 1: She's so we're probably gonna hear a lot of snores today.
Speaker 1: Doug is like in total chill mode next to me,
Speaker 1: and Dorry is all about this.
Speaker 2: She's at attention, She's ready to go. Well, welcome. I'm
Speaker 2: so excited to have you here. I have been following
Speaker 2: Doug for many years, and I knew that he was
Speaker 2: probably like one of the most famous dogs in the world.
Speaker 2: But when I was researching today's interview, I didn't realize
Speaker 2: just how impressive his resume is. So I'm going to
Speaker 2: read a snippet of this for the listeners out there
Speaker 2: who probably also follow him, but just like didn't realize
Speaker 2: how big of a deal he is. So Doug has
Speaker 2: won two People's Choice Awards. He starred in a Super
Speaker 2: Bowl commercial. He has a New York Times best selling book,
Speaker 2: a top selling calendar. He has his own merchandise and
Speaker 2: holistic pet care line. He has starred in music videos
Speaker 2: for Katie Perry, Dncee, and Fallout Boy. He has been
Speaker 2: kissed by the one and only Justin Bieber, and the
Speaker 2: mayor of Nashville has declared his birthday, which is May twentieth,
Speaker 2: as the Doug the Pug Day in the city.
Speaker 1: That's wild. It's wild, I mean that is crazy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: It's been a very fun and insane ride that never
Speaker 1: ceases to blow our mind. Sometimes I wake up in
Speaker 1: the morning and I'm like, what happened?
Speaker 2: Like, Yeah, can you just to kind of like rewind
Speaker 2: all the way back to the beginning?
Speaker 1: How did this all come to me? So? I used
Speaker 1: to actually work a few buildings over Okay, on music row.
Speaker 1: I went to Belmont and that's what moved me to Nashville.
Speaker 1: And I had dreams of working in the music industry
Speaker 1: and doing marketing and PR and like graphic design and
Speaker 1: branding and stuff for bands. And so I got a
Speaker 1: job doing that at a small record label artist management company.
Speaker 1: And I got Doug when I was a junior at Belmont,
Speaker 1: and so I was in college in college, and so
Speaker 1: I was going to work on music row and then
Speaker 1: I would come home and I had my dream pug
Speaker 1: who loved getting dressed up and loved doing activities with
Speaker 1: me around town. And it became this kind of true
Speaker 1: where I would get home from work and go out
Speaker 1: around Nashville and take pictures with him. This was in
Speaker 1: the very beginning of Instagram. I think this was twenty
Speaker 1: thirteen when I started posting him, and so I just
Speaker 1: did it for fun on my personal Instagram. I mean,
Speaker 1: no one even really had like my friends didn't even
Speaker 1: really have it. It was mostly Facebook at that time.
Speaker 1: And I would post him and say, Doug the pug
Speaker 1: doing that Doug and I blah blah blah, and people
Speaker 1: just wanted to see Doug. So if I posted anything
Speaker 1: on my personal Instagram that wasn't Doug, people were like,
Speaker 1: where's Doug, Like, we don't really care. They just wanted
Speaker 1: to see Doug. And so I started getting a little
Speaker 1: more creative and doing I started getting a little more
Speaker 1: creative and doing you know, things that were on trend,
Speaker 1: like holiday type things, or if a famous artist was
Speaker 1: coming into Nashville. I would like play off that and
Speaker 1: big Instagram pug accounts that had all these followers the
Speaker 1: time when they would take our photos and post them
Speaker 1: and tag us, they would get so many likes, and
Speaker 1: it was this rush of like, WHOA, that's so cool
Speaker 1: a photo that I took and a concept that I
Speaker 1: came up with, and the styling and everything, like people
Speaker 1: are resonating with this, they like it. And again this
Speaker 1: is very condensed. But I ended up switching my account
Speaker 1: from me to just dug and putting more effort and
Speaker 1: time into it. And he reached one hundred thousand followers
Speaker 1: on Instagram, which was insane and huge and amazing at
Speaker 1: the time, and we had a little party and I
Speaker 1: was just honestly a very fun hobby. It got me,
Speaker 1: brought me a lot of joy, and it brought other
Speaker 1: people joy. And I would be lying if I didn't
Speaker 1: say that. At that time, I saw it being something
Speaker 1: like what it is now. I had this gut feeling
Speaker 1: to pursue it, and so I actually when he hit
Speaker 1: one hundred thousand followers, I put in I noticed to
Speaker 1: quit my job. Wow, and people thought I was crazy.
Speaker 1: I kind of lied to most people and said I'm
Speaker 1: starting my own graphic design business because I didn't want
Speaker 1: to be like so I have this dog that has
Speaker 1: on Instagram, and I think he would make a really cute,
Speaker 1: stuffy animal. But it happened as soon as I put
Speaker 1: my notice in for that job. At that one hundred
Speaker 1: thousand party, we had a pug balloon left over, and
Speaker 1: Rob and I were just dating at the time, and
Speaker 1: he was on tour and so all by myself, I
Speaker 1: went to Dragon Park in Hillsborough Village, which was right
Speaker 1: by my old apartment, and I tied the pug balloon
Speaker 1: to Doug. And again, he doesn't care about anything, so
Speaker 1: he was all about it. He was running around the
Speaker 1: park with this pug balloon attached to him and I
Speaker 1: sent the footage to Rob and I said, can you
Speaker 1: put a cute song over this? Can you put like people?
Speaker 1: Let me tell you about my best friend, Like, let's
Speaker 1: make the pug balloon his best friend. And I posted
Speaker 1: it to Doug's Facebook, his Instagram, and then I made
Speaker 1: him a Twitter because I was like, what would a
Speaker 1: band need, Like if I were to help one of
Speaker 1: my artists at the label, what would they need? And
Speaker 1: so I put it on all these things and I
Speaker 1: had a logo for Doug and I took it very seriously.
Speaker 1: But that night I posted it, didn't think anything of it.
Speaker 1: I woke up and I looked on Facebook. He had
Speaker 1: three thousand likes at the time on Facebook, and the
Speaker 1: next day he had like fifteen thousand. I'm like, what happened?
Speaker 1: And I looked at the video and had twenty million views.
Speaker 2: Wow, and this is the one hundred k party where
Speaker 2: he's running around with a pug bull.
Speaker 1: Yes, Like right after that party, I took a little
Speaker 1: video with a leftover balloon and I was like, whoa.
Speaker 1: All of a sudden, it was real okay, you know,
Speaker 1: And by the end of that week he had a
Speaker 1: million likes followers on Facebook.
Speaker 2: Doug was like, my mom just quit her job. I
Speaker 2: got to go to one.
Speaker 1: He was like, let's go. And so it was this
Speaker 1: crazy feeling of like I felt very ready for it,
Speaker 1: because I had already kind of set it up for success,
Speaker 1: but for it to actually happened and for me to
Speaker 1: have the free time to do it. So Rob luckily
Speaker 1: got home from tour right around then, and we just
Speaker 1: started making videos. I mean every day we were coming
Speaker 1: up with like, let's dress dug up as Harry Potter
Speaker 1: and call him Harry Pugger. Or you know all these
Speaker 1: popular TV shows The Walking Dead. I dressed him as
Speaker 1: a zombie and we were crazy people running around Radnor
Speaker 1: Lake with our dog with a dressed as a zombie
Speaker 1: and like but we didn't care. It was just this
Speaker 1: very exhilarating time. And within a few months we had
Speaker 1: a book deal and later that year we were going
Speaker 1: on a book tour all over the world. We went
Speaker 1: to London.
Speaker 2: Did he hit his first million followers that year?
Speaker 1: Oh? Yeah, so he on Facebook went from three thousand
Speaker 1: to a million within like a few weeks. Okay, on Instagram.
Speaker 1: Instagram's a harder platform to grow, so I think it
Speaker 1: took a little longer. But honestly, Justin Bieber posting. He
Speaker 1: posted two pictures of Doug. His label actually hit us
Speaker 1: up and was like, hey, remember the Justin Bieber era
Speaker 1: of like sorry and what do you mean?
Speaker 2: It was like the best era, take me back?
Speaker 1: And he was like on the Calvin Klein ads, they
Speaker 1: asked Doug to be a part of a countdown for
Speaker 1: how many days until? What do you mean? Okay? And
Speaker 1: so I took pictures of Doug wearing Calvin kleins and
Speaker 1: that little sign that said eight days what do you mean?
Speaker 1: And Justin posted two of those photos and tagged Doug.
Speaker 1: We went up like one hundred thousand followers in a day,
Speaker 1: I bet, and it was. It's just still so crazy
Speaker 1: to even look back on that and to see what
Speaker 1: it is now, and just it's been the most amazing
Speaker 1: fun ride and Doug loves every second of it.
Speaker 2: One thing that you said that I just feel like
Speaker 2: sitting here and talking with you is I feel like
Speaker 2: there's Instagram influencers and TikTokers where you're like, Okay, this
Speaker 2: is like their job and you can kind of tell
Speaker 2: like it just seems so organic and you just enjoy
Speaker 2: I mean, obviously he's like your child, so you enjoy
Speaker 2: doing it. He loves to do it, and like that
Speaker 2: just really translates. I thank you on his page is
Speaker 2: why he's so successful.
Speaker 1: I really appreciate that. I feel like, obviously social media
Speaker 1: has changed exponentially. We've been doing it full time for
Speaker 1: almost ten years and it's changed so much. And I
Speaker 1: think every day I have to make the conscious choice
Speaker 1: and Rob as well to do it because we love it, right,
Speaker 1: Because we would have a completely different approach to social
Speaker 1: media with Doug if we were doing it just for
Speaker 1: the followers and the clout at this point. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: so it's honestly become so much more laid back, and
Speaker 1: we're a lot happier because of it because we're just
Speaker 1: sharing like literally what we want to share doing anyway there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we feel like we have nothing else to prove at
Speaker 1: this point, right, and it's it's just like truly for
Speaker 1: fun and to like we still have so many big
Speaker 1: dreams obviously, but his happiness and our happiness is like
Speaker 1: most important.
Speaker 2: Of course, does he have an agent or do you
Speaker 2: guys do everything?
Speaker 1: He does have an agent And that's a funny story too.
Speaker 1: So again, when this video went viral, it was March
Speaker 1: of twenty fifteen, and there were no the term influencer
Speaker 1: wasn't even a thing. Content creator wasn't even a thing.
Speaker 1: He's really the og. He's the og dog, celebrity dog.
Speaker 1: But we didn't know what to do because it was like, Okay,
Speaker 1: we're having these brands that want to collaborate with us,
Speaker 1: but like we I guess we need to set up
Speaker 1: a business like for our dog, Like okay, I think
Speaker 1: we can do this. Like again, people thought we were
Speaker 1: crazy and we met our agent at a wedding and
Speaker 1: she was working in the music industry but came from
Speaker 1: the agency world, and she was like, I think I
Speaker 1: think we could do this, guys, Like what if we
Speaker 1: just did a six month trial contract. I'll pitch you
Speaker 1: to the brands, I'll negotiate for you, Like, let's just
Speaker 1: see what happens. And her name's Toy. She has been
Speaker 1: with us for almost ten years now and she's now
Speaker 1: the president of Talent at Whaler Agency, which is like
Speaker 1: the biggest creator agency, And she was just invited to
Speaker 1: the White House to speak in front of the President
Speaker 1: about content creators and like raising like rights for content
Speaker 1: creators and helping with like things like insurance, like treating
Speaker 1: us as real business owners. Yeah, and so even she's
Speaker 1: evolved so much. So. Yeah, we have a small but
Speaker 1: mighty team and ninety percent of those people have been
Speaker 1: with us since the beginning, before it was even a thing.
Speaker 1: That's amazing.
Speaker 2: Well, that speaks a lot to probably working with you guys,
Speaker 2: and thank you of course Doug too. Has there been
Speaker 2: I mean, from all the concerts and red carpets and
Speaker 2: sporting events, has there ever been a moment where you're like,
Speaker 2: I cannot believe that. I'm sure it happens all the time,
Speaker 2: but like, what is the moment where you're like, I
Speaker 2: can't believe this is happening.
Speaker 1: So this is my go to answer. I have a
Speaker 1: lot of moments where I'm just like, it feels very
Speaker 1: out of body. I've had to learn that before we
Speaker 1: walk into something where we're like, Okay, this is crazy,
Speaker 1: I have to like be as present as possible because afterwards,
Speaker 1: when it becomes just a memory, it's it's just so weird,
Speaker 1: like did I just black out? So Shakira flew us
Speaker 1: to Barcelona, Sony Latin, her label hit us up and
Speaker 1: they were like, we want Doug to promote her song
Speaker 1: El perro Fiel. And it was like a natural thing
Speaker 1: and they're like can you come to bar Salona next week?
Speaker 1: And we're like okay, and they're like, oh yeah, and
Speaker 1: you're gonna shoot with Shakira and this time, this place is.
Speaker 1: It ended up being at her house, wow, And it
Speaker 1: was so low key and laid back that we actually
Speaker 1: like got to spend the day with her amazing, and
Speaker 1: she was so lovely and so beautiful and kind and
Speaker 1: loved Doug, and Doug was playing with her kids. And
Speaker 1: that's probably the most pinch me moment is I have goosebump. Yeah,
Speaker 1: being in Shakira's mansion looking over Barcelona and it being
Speaker 1: like a genuine moment. I think that's the cool thing
Speaker 1: about Doug is when we do meet these people that,
Speaker 1: like a lot of them are my heroes. Like, you know,
Speaker 1: I grew up as a musician, my husband too, So
Speaker 1: like when we get to meet people from the past
Speaker 1: that we listened to, it's really cool because when they
Speaker 1: meet Doug, it to them is like a breath of
Speaker 1: fresh air to meet a dog, you know, like they're
Speaker 1: not on right, they are just solely excited to meet
Speaker 1: a dog, right, And so we get to kind of
Speaker 1: see people for who they are. Oh high doors do.
Speaker 2: Has jumped off of my chair and now she's like,
Speaker 2: I want to see another you can hang some of baby.
Speaker 1: Oh there we go. There we go, two pugs in
Speaker 1: that chair. Good shot.
Speaker 2: Okay, it's funny you say that because I've said that
Speaker 2: on this podcast. When I interview celebrities or musicians, they're
Speaker 2: always talking about their jobs and their career and they're this,
Speaker 2: but when you talk about their pets, Oh, they immediately softened,
Speaker 2: and it's just like a different side of them. I
Speaker 2: think it's like such a special side that most people
Speaker 2: don't get to see.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's the best of us. It totally takes off
Speaker 1: that veil. And that's like been one of the coolest
Speaker 1: parts is again meeting people that we grew up listening
Speaker 1: to and realizing that they're just humans. They're just like us,
Speaker 1: just like us, and they love it. If they don't
Speaker 1: love animals, that's the red flag.
Speaker 2: We have nothing in common, Like I can't really, it
Speaker 2: is the ultimate red flag.
Speaker 1: I agree.
Speaker 2: Obviously, he's a very chill guy. I mean he's like
Speaker 2: half asleep on the chair as we speak right now.
Speaker 2: Story's laying on top of this is what we call
Speaker 2: pug piling. I love it, and they are the masters
Speaker 2: of it. And Doug just doesn't mind. And he's just like,
Speaker 2: come on top, He's here for it. Has there ever
Speaker 2: been I mean, clearly he enjoys the attention. He's very
Speaker 2: laid back. Has there ever been an experience or a
Speaker 2: circumstance We're like, hmm, I don't know if he's really
Speaker 2: liking this, Like I kind of feel like I need
Speaker 2: to step in there.
Speaker 1: Have been parts of like meet and greets when it
Speaker 1: just gets to be too much and I pull him away. Obviously,
Speaker 1: his safety and happiness is number one. And the nice
Speaker 1: thing is that we've figured it out over the years,
Speaker 1: like what is appropriate and what's not, because you know,
Speaker 1: I feel like Doug and I are so cosmically intertwined,
Speaker 1: to say the least, where we both pick up on
Speaker 1: each other's energy to a fault, where like, if I'm
Speaker 1: really stressed, Doug is not going to be feeling all
Speaker 1: that day, and so I have to be very cognizant
Speaker 1: and in that same breath, I can pick up on
Speaker 1: if something is wrong and you know, it doesn't ever
Speaker 1: really happened, but like, you know, if there is a
Speaker 1: situation where I'm like, Doug doesn't like this, or you know,
Speaker 1: if there's another animal on set or something that like
Speaker 1: is not making him feel good or bad, then I
Speaker 1: pull him away. And we've learned to like have those
Speaker 1: boundaries for him and advocate for him like that.
Speaker 2: Sin They're so cute, They're amazing. We're getting this on video. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I think that. You know, it's so interesting when owners
Speaker 2: come into me and they're telling me how their dog
Speaker 2: is sick and they'll be like no, like I know
Speaker 2: they're not doing it right now, but I promise you
Speaker 2: they're sick. And I look at them and I say,
Speaker 2: you know your dog better than anybody, like I trust you,
Speaker 2: And so I think there's such a It's I know
Speaker 2: we didn't birth them, but it sure feels like we
Speaker 2: birthed them. I joke that I've birthed my dogs, and
Speaker 2: I get one hundred percent what you're saying, like how
Speaker 2: you feel like you are like soul twins and you
Speaker 2: understand like when each other's off. So he's lucky that
Speaker 2: he has a mom that advocates for him in that sense.
Speaker 2: He probably would not have, you know, had the long
Speaker 2: of a successful career if you didn't Thank you.
Speaker 1: So that's good.
Speaker 2: Any crazy dms that he's gotten on Instagram, are they
Speaker 2: all pretty tame?
Speaker 1: We've had some interesting people for sure, Like people have
Speaker 1: offered to purchase him, to purchase him, yes, feel like
Speaker 1: there's not a price chat and it's it's kind of
Speaker 1: insane to see.
Speaker 2: That's really crazy to me. It's very are they going
Speaker 2: out numbers.
Speaker 1: It's very strange or like there's a lot of people
Speaker 1: that think that. It's like almost like they live in
Speaker 1: our house. It's like they know all these things. I'm like,
Speaker 1: how do you know that? Like I've never even posted that.
Speaker 1: It's mostly like people just loving them and being sweet.
Speaker 1: I think again, the crazy part is like when someone
Speaker 1: shows up in our dms that's like from our past,
Speaker 1: like when I was young, you know, Backstreet Boys, biggest deal.
Speaker 1: Like still, I'll listen to it and it brings me
Speaker 1: right back. And then Nick Carter's just like, hey, can
Speaker 1: Doug come? I want to hang out with him before
Speaker 1: the show? Can we make a video? And it's it's
Speaker 1: just very wild to get a message like that, and
Speaker 1: then you realize that it really was him. It wasn't
Speaker 1: like his agent or manager or something. Right. Oh, Dory's
Speaker 1: arm is literally around Doug.
Speaker 2: This is a perfect segue because I was gonna ask.
Speaker 2: I know, Dory is a new addition to the family. She,
Speaker 2: from what I have seen, was rescued. I'm really interested
Speaker 2: in how she came into your family. How is Doug
Speaker 2: feeling about having a sister.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so we had talked about getting Doug a sibling
Speaker 1: for quite some time, and we didn't know what it
Speaker 1: would look like. I knew that I wanted to rescue,
Speaker 1: and I followed a ton of Hug rescues and was
Speaker 1: just like, Okay, I'm going to leave it up to
Speaker 1: the powers that be and if I see a dog
Speaker 1: that I know, when I the moment I see the photo,
Speaker 1: I know that's our dog. We'll pursue it, we'll figure
Speaker 1: it out. I've just got to let it go and
Speaker 1: see what happens. And it was a crazy kind of
Speaker 1: six seven, eight months of waiting. So not to get
Speaker 1: too heavy on here, but Rob, Doug's dad, my husband,
Speaker 1: was diagnosed with MS almost a year ago, and so
Speaker 1: our decision to add another dog into the family was
Speaker 1: partly as a therapy dog for him, you know, Doug
Speaker 1: and I obviously Doug is obsessed with Rob, but he
Speaker 1: is like very attached to me. Like if I'm sitting,
Speaker 1: he's next to me. If I'm laying, he's laying next
Speaker 1: to me. And we were like Rob needs like his
Speaker 1: you know, his soul dog. And he was actually in
Speaker 1: his one year MRI or no six month MRI something.
Speaker 1: It was a very important scan and so I'm like
Speaker 1: in the back room at Vanderbilt Hospital, he's in there.
Speaker 1: I'm like doom scrolling, you know, like the dog Doug
Speaker 1: was not with me. I'm just kind of all alone.
Speaker 1: And then I see one of those rescues that I followed,
Speaker 1: like posted a graphic and there were three pugs on it.
Speaker 1: Very small picture, but one of them caught my eye
Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh my gosh, she looks like Doug.
Speaker 1: Like that's crazy, because Doug, you know how it is
Speaker 1: with your dogs. It's rare to see another dog that
Speaker 1: like really looks like your dog. But when you do,
Speaker 1: it's like whoa. And that happened, and so like I
Speaker 1: start messaging the rescue, and before I knew it, Rob
Speaker 1: woke up. It was a you know, tough tough night
Speaker 1: for him. He had to take some medication to calm
Speaker 1: down in the MRI, so he was conked out when
Speaker 1: we got home and fell asleep at nine pm. But
Speaker 1: here I am messaging the foster the rescue all night
Speaker 1: I could, and I did not sleep one minute because
Speaker 1: I was like, I just think I found our dog.
Speaker 1: And so Rob woke up and I'm like, Hi, like,
Speaker 1: hope you feel good, but what do you think?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: And he was like, let's do it. Ending Within a
Speaker 1: few days, she the rescue was amazing enough to fly
Speaker 1: her to Nashville from California. We got her from Tiny
Speaker 1: Paws Plug Rescue. They're an amazing organization. And she was
Speaker 1: actually found abandoned in a field, because who would ever
Speaker 1: do that to any animal? But she was found and
Speaker 1: she stayed with an amazing foster for about a month.
Speaker 1: And now she is the second love of our life,
Speaker 1: actually the fourth love of our life because we have
Speaker 1: two cats.
Speaker 3: That we love.
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, how I mean it seems like they
Speaker 2: get along great. Was Doug at first like, whoaa, I'm
Speaker 2: an only child, our only dog?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean there's there's always an adjustment period, you know,
Speaker 1: but he he like totally accepts her and they do
Speaker 1: really cute things together. And do they clean each other? No,
Speaker 1: oh sometimes Doug has done that before. We got it
Speaker 1: on video, so he did it once and I was like,
Speaker 1: maybe this will be a thing. Yeah, hasn't been anything,
Speaker 1: but yeah, they he's he's been doing so great. We're
Speaker 1: really really proud of him. And she just adores him, like,
Speaker 1: oh she obviously she can't get enough of him.
Speaker 2: And do you feel like it's worked out? Because I
Speaker 2: have found that in our little family at home that
Speaker 2: our girl dog loves my husband. Of course she loves me,
Speaker 2: but she really loves my husband and the boy dogs
Speaker 2: really love me.
Speaker 1: It's exactly that, I mean crazy. That's why it's so
Speaker 1: amazing that it worked out this way, because we knew
Speaker 1: Rob needed his own dog. I mean, obviously dor is
Speaker 1: mine too, but of course she is like daddy's girl,
Speaker 1: like so cleany. She always has to be with Daddy.
Speaker 2: It's so cute. It's so special. It's nice because we
Speaker 2: had similar where it was like, Okay, the dogs all
Speaker 2: love their mom and my husband's like I love them
Speaker 2: so much, but like they really love you, and so
Speaker 2: it's nice when they have their own sort of like
Speaker 2: you said, their own dog. Yeah, it's so special story.
Speaker 2: You're so cute. He might be the start of the show.
Speaker 1: Tory Doug is like, I'm going to use any opportunity
Speaker 1: to that, but I like, I'm going to sleep. Uh.
Speaker 2: One thing, this is sort of switching topics, but one
Speaker 2: of the things that you had talked about on your
Speaker 2: Instagram that I had never heard anybody verbalized. I guess
Speaker 2: I subconsciously have thought about it, but I thought it
Speaker 2: was really interesting that you brought up was and I
Speaker 2: don't know exactly how it way. I'm kind of paraphrasing here,
Speaker 2: but you had gone to the park or you were
Speaker 2: out and about and someone had saw a Doug and
Speaker 2: they were like, oh wow, it's not like he's looking wow,
Speaker 2: he's looking old or something along those lines, and you
Speaker 2: were like, hey, like that doesn't make me feel great,
Speaker 2: which is completely understandable. I think that's really interesting. Is
Speaker 2: that something that you hear often?
Speaker 1: Yeah? So I find that, you know, it is a
Speaker 1: very common question to people are curious how old is
Speaker 1: your dog? You know, it's one thing with Doug, but
Speaker 1: I think anyone that has an aging dog is going
Speaker 1: to get these questions. And the issue isn't asking the question.
Speaker 1: The issue is when the person or I in this case,
Speaker 1: says how old he is, they make a visible reaction
Speaker 1: that has no purpose other than to make you feel
Speaker 1: bad and think of the worst. And so, you know,
Speaker 1: that post was kind of just to like shed some
Speaker 1: light on maybe, I don't know, changing the stigma around
Speaker 1: how to react when someone asks or is told how
Speaker 1: old their dog is. I mean, we don't need to
Speaker 1: be reminded of that inevitable future. Ever, obviously it's a thing,
Speaker 1: but like, I'm here to enjoy every single day, and
Speaker 1: why don't we turn that into like, wow, he looks
Speaker 1: so great or like good for you, like you must
Speaker 1: be taking such great care of him, right, and instead
Speaker 1: of oh gosh, like well mine blah blah blah, like nine,
Speaker 1: like great, thanks, yeah, and it does happen. I mean, we,
Speaker 1: you know, bring him out and about a lot, and
Speaker 1: most people and his followers and fans, they don't care
Speaker 1: about it at all. But it's usually people that are
Speaker 1: like either skeptical of what we do or just kind
Speaker 1: of want to make you feel bad. They're like they
Speaker 1: they say that, and it never feels good. I kind
Speaker 1: of made the reference earlier that, you know, when we
Speaker 1: have an elderly human in our life, like a grandparent
Speaker 1: or someone, and we ask how old they are and
Speaker 1: you know, oh they're ninety five, we don't go oh no,
Speaker 1: we go wow, that's amazing, what a long, beautiful life.
Speaker 1: Like I hope they keep going, like keep going grandma
Speaker 1: like hell yeah yeah, instead of like oh, like god,
Speaker 1: my grandma died. Yeah, it's it's it doesn't it's not necessary.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think that's such a good point. It's something that
Speaker 2: I hadn't really thought about, but I think it's so important,
Speaker 2: like having we talk about this on the podcast Anticipatory Grief,
Speaker 2: and a lot of my listeners really like felt that
Speaker 2: they feel this a lot at home, and it's preparing
Speaker 2: for your dogs passing, which of course you want to
Speaker 2: live in the moment, but it's something that as a
Speaker 2: dog owner you know your time is finite. It's something
Speaker 2: that you think about and the last thing we need
Speaker 2: is other people and outsiders like bringing it to our attention,
Speaker 2: like let us just enjoy each day with them, right,
Speaker 2: So I think that's a good like for us to
Speaker 2: all be aware of when talking to other dog owners,
Speaker 2: especially as senior pets.
Speaker 1: I think, you know, chances are when you meet someone
Speaker 1: who has their dog with them, they're obsessed with their dog,
Speaker 1: like that's that's that's a family member, right, and only
Speaker 1: positive things should be shared about a family member. You know,
Speaker 1: if it were a child, they wouldn't be saying things
Speaker 1: like that. And obviously dogs are not children, but to me,
Speaker 1: my dogs are my children, so it does hurt and
Speaker 1: it is taken personally. Yeah, but yeah, I just I
Speaker 1: think everything should be positive and good vibes. Obviously that's
Speaker 1: not the way work the world works. But when I
Speaker 1: meet someone's dog, I always say good things.
Speaker 2: Always on that note, dog looks amazing for his age,
Speaker 2: thank you. The first thing I noticed as event I'm like, wow,
Speaker 2: his weight is perfect. Yes, he looks amazing. Is there
Speaker 2: anything you would attribute to how great he looks for twelve? Yeah,
Speaker 2: So starting at a young age.
Speaker 1: He actually had a very severe health scare when he
Speaker 1: was younger. We gave him it was prescribed of pill
Speaker 1: for his allergies, and he ended up having like a
Speaker 1: very rare reaction to it, and his blood platelet levels
Speaker 1: went life threateningly low. And at the time, oh my
Speaker 1: gosh story. At the time, I had no idea about nutrition,
Speaker 1: about you know, the products in my home. We hadn't
Speaker 1: dealt with any health issues ourselves, and so that really
Speaker 1: kind of woke us up to like, what what are
Speaker 1: we doing that we could do better or more naturally
Speaker 1: for Doug. And so we started using you know, more
Speaker 1: natural ingredients and products, and honestly, him not being kibble
Speaker 1: fed for us personally, has made the biggest change.
Speaker 2: He looks amazing, Thank you, And I think there is
Speaker 2: such a fine balance of you know, of course being
Speaker 2: a veterinarian, we do practice Western medicine, but also like
Speaker 2: incorporating Eastern and holistic.
Speaker 1: It's not one. It's not all or nothing for either side.
Speaker 1: It's just just balance. Yes, So we give Doug. We
Speaker 1: give Doug as much balance as possible.
Speaker 2: Yes, and sometimes less is more and going more holistic
Speaker 2: route is you know, it can be really important. And
Speaker 2: whatever you guys are doing, he looks amazing.
Speaker 1: Thank you. Tory is such a hymn.
Speaker 2: She's sleeping on her little noggins on you. So typically
Speaker 2: on this podcast, we'll start with I'll have uh listeners
Speaker 2: call in and ask questions and then I answer them. Today,
Speaker 2: I figured we would do something a little different, and
Speaker 2: I asked our listeners if they had any questions about Doug.
Speaker 1: Perfect.
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna ask you some questions that people are
Speaker 2: dying to know.
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm ready.
Speaker 2: Does Doug have a morning or bedtime routine?
Speaker 1: Morning routine is absolutely sleeping until I make him get
Speaker 1: out of bed. And nighttime routine is going out with
Speaker 1: me to put the chickens away. We have fourteen chickens. Oh, okay,
Speaker 1: that is a newer thing. We've had them for a
Speaker 1: little over a year and it's so fun. You guys
Speaker 1: have a little zoo. I love it. I can keep going.
Speaker 1: But Rob is like, nope, you're fourteen chickens is enough.
Speaker 1: We all'll need to check the balance. He'll come out
Speaker 1: with me and Dori will too, and well we'll get
Speaker 1: the chickens out and then we'll like just get super
Speaker 1: cozy and we're all about coziness them.
Speaker 2: Do they sleep in bed with you guys?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, I figured as mussed.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what is his favorite activity? Sounds like it might
Speaker 2: be sleeping eating? Eating, eating, It's that's like the best.
Speaker 1: Time of day for Doug's his favorite snack to eat?
Speaker 1: Oh so he loves blueberries? Oh, he loves loves blueberries.
Speaker 1: I give him these freeze dried minnows okay, and it's
Speaker 1: just like good protein and he just he can chomp
Speaker 1: them all up. What else?
Speaker 2: Watermelon? Oh isn't it cute to watch them eat watermelon?
Speaker 2: And he how many teeth does he have left?
Speaker 1: Like? Is he he has a lot? On the top? Okay,
Speaker 1: Robs holding up five? He is more than five the
Speaker 1: bottom I means, you know, pugged. Oh yeah, more than it.
Speaker 2: I definitely know it is a constant struggle. It is
Speaker 2: so but enough that he can still chomp on his minnows.
Speaker 2: That's all we need. And any birthday traditions that you
Speaker 2: do with Doug.
Speaker 1: We take birthdays very seriously with the dogs. Whoa, well,
Speaker 1: we don't know Dory's birthday, Well we'll celebrate her gotcha day.
Speaker 1: But Doug, we just like take him all over town
Speaker 1: and give him a good day and he gets a
Speaker 1: little cake and we're just like, you know, sing to him,
Speaker 1: and yeah, he's very spoiled.
Speaker 2: I had a pet psychic on previously and she had
Speaker 2: mentioned that birthdays, that of all the pets that she
Speaker 2: talks to, that they am getting their birthday celebrated as
Speaker 2: one of their favorite things and that even though we
Speaker 2: may feel like, oh my gosh, are we over the top,
Speaker 2: do they really even know? Like they definitely know, and
Speaker 2: they love it.
Speaker 1: Doug.
Speaker 2: He loves it, And I really I think they love him.
Speaker 2: But I'm like, maybe I'm a crazy dog mom. But
Speaker 2: that made me feel better to hear that she said that,
Speaker 2: Oh I love that. Do you have a nickname that
Speaker 2: you call him at home? I always think it's funny
Speaker 2: how you'll see like how things can spiral a little
Speaker 2: out of control.
Speaker 1: I am yeah, it's pretty out of control. He's Yuga
Speaker 1: bubbus bubs Coco no no Coco, no no, what am
Speaker 1: I missing? Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 2: The great bubb Zo, the great Busino.
Speaker 1: Dorry is Dory NONI. Yeah, that's a good segue. So
Speaker 1: my mom is Spanish and it's like a term of
Speaker 1: endearment to say Nony. It's like oh, like no, no,
Speaker 1: no ne. It's just like a sweet thing. And that's
Speaker 1: why our holistic dog product company is called Nony Pup.
Speaker 1: I love that. It's just it was just like I
Speaker 1: would say no kamir noni and yeah that's stup.
Speaker 2: I love that. It's a great name. All right, let's
Speaker 2: see any with you being an artist, I guess both
Speaker 2: of you artists. Any songs that you sing to them
Speaker 2: at home?
Speaker 1: Yes, actually, so a thing for me over the past
Speaker 1: few years, which I never expected. I've been able to
Speaker 1: blend like my music world and Doug and I wrote
Speaker 1: him a song called Song for My Dog and it's
Speaker 1: just a ukulele kind of a cappella ukulele song. And
Speaker 1: it's cool because a lot of dog owners have really
Speaker 1: resonated with it, and it's been used like six hundred
Speaker 1: thousand times on TikTok or something gosh, and so like,
Speaker 1: that's kind of the classic song because it just came
Speaker 1: so easily. But I sing a lot to them. I
Speaker 1: sing a lot to them.
Speaker 2: That's so nice. You got to blend your two passions together.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's really fun. I love that.
Speaker 2: Okay, one last thing before you guys go, we I
Speaker 2: am on TikTok. And there's this new viral trend going
Speaker 2: on of who's more likely to most people are playing
Speaker 2: it with couples or friends. What I figure to be
Speaker 2: fun to do with Doug and Dorry. I'm in okay,
Speaker 2: So who is more likely to finish their food first?
Speaker 1: Dory? Dory?
Speaker 2: But she does to eat oh yeah, but he like
Speaker 2: savors it a.
Speaker 1: Little more than her. She's like, you're done, and yeah,
Speaker 1: like should probably get her a slow fear. Did you
Speaker 1: even enjoy that?
Speaker 2: Who is more likely to wake you up from storing
Speaker 2: so loud?
Speaker 1: Dory? Okay?
Speaker 2: Who's more likely to poop in the house?
Speaker 3: Dorry.
Speaker 1: We're working on that, to be fair. Doug. It's had
Speaker 1: more time with the potty training. She's like I'm a risk.
Speaker 2: Yes, who's more likely to hog the bed? Doug where
Speaker 2: does he sleep in the bed?
Speaker 1: So it's very cozy, Like as soon as I lay down,
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, I say, assumed a position, and he
Speaker 1: comes and he like spin probably laughing through bark. He
Speaker 1: like spins around and then he plops right in between
Speaker 1: my legs and everyone knows that has a pug, Like
Speaker 1: that's the thing, okay, But throughout the night he does
Speaker 1: not move and it gets hot. Yeah, and so like
Speaker 1: if I want to flip on my side, I have
Speaker 1: to do this whole maneuver to not disturb him. Of course,
Speaker 1: so he's the bedthog for sure.
Speaker 2: It is funny like in the middle of the night,
Speaker 2: I'll change positions and I'm like, I will not disturb
Speaker 2: my dog. It can't happen like ORMI I saw hole
Speaker 2: and they are hot although they're small, they're little space heaters.
Speaker 1: Yeah. We have a whole like talk about bedtime routine.
Speaker 1: It's like Dory starts the night with rob and dugs
Speaker 1: in between my legs and then Fiona, our cat, the
Speaker 1: white kiddie, she starts off sleeping on the corner of
Speaker 1: the bed. But when I go to the bathroom in
Speaker 1: the middle of the night. I have to flip on
Speaker 1: my side and open my left arm to have a
Speaker 1: little circle, and then Fiona will walk up to me
Speaker 1: and lay in my arms a second only after I
Speaker 1: go to the bathroom. It's just but it's like heaven,
Speaker 1: you know, I wouldn't have it any other way, all right.
Speaker 2: Who's more likely to ignore you when you say no?
Speaker 1: Oh? Doug? He's very stubborn. Oh really, Yeah. When he's on,
Speaker 1: he's on, like when he's like doing a commercial or
Speaker 1: you know, we're doing a video shoot, he's like freaking amazing.
Speaker 1: But you want him to heal on a walk? Good luck?
Speaker 1: He's like, mom, do you know who I am? He
Speaker 1: literally just wants to smell and pee? Okay.
Speaker 2: Who's more likely to play fetch?
Speaker 1: Dory? Just a fetcher.
Speaker 2: Who's more likely to console you when you're sad?
Speaker 1: Douggie and Dory. They're both kind of equal in that regard.
Speaker 1: They do it in their own ways. Last, but not least.
Speaker 2: Who's more likely to sneak a tree off the table
Speaker 2: when you're not looking?
Speaker 1: Doug? Yeah, he's I mean, he's like the food food monster.
Speaker 2: He loves snacks, I have my little dog at home.
Speaker 2: I like tell people that if I left him with
Speaker 2: an endless a pie of food, he would eat himself, oh,
Speaker 2: until he exploded.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think so. It's like doggy muck bangs, like
Speaker 1: they trust they would. They would just eat until they can't.
Speaker 2: I can't eat anymore. Oh, I hope we got that
Speaker 2: Dory snoring so loud. She's like, I'll show them amazing. Well,
Speaker 2: thank you guys so much for coming on. It was
Speaker 2: so nice to finally meet you guys in person. You're
Speaker 2: so welcome. I love Doug so much. And if you
Speaker 2: guys aren't following Doug already, you're crazy and you must.
Speaker 2: His handle is it's jug the Pug.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much.
Speaker 2: You're welcome. That was such a great interview. I loved
Speaker 2: having Doug and his sister Dory here.
Speaker 3: They were so cute.
Speaker 2: They were so cute, and all of you listeners out there,
Speaker 2: if you were hearing snorts and snores and farts and
Speaker 2: all the things, that was them really enjoying it.
Speaker 3: We definitely picked up a lot of their their sounds,
Speaker 3: but they were adorable.
Speaker 1: That's just pug life.
Speaker 2: Yes, you get the sounds and they're so cute, and
Speaker 2: Doug was sleeping most of the time. I think this
Speaker 2: studio has the effect of like putting dogs to sleep.
Speaker 3: You know what, I've noticed, ever since you had that
Speaker 3: pet psychic on, all the animals are so chill when
Speaker 3: they're in this space. I don't know what she did, and.
Speaker 2: She said she did some reiki on Saya, so maybe
Speaker 2: she like left her.
Speaker 1: I think call me energy.
Speaker 3: Because Doug was so active before he got up here.
Speaker 3: In the second he sat down.
Speaker 1: He was like night night, good night, good night. I
Speaker 1: loved him.
Speaker 2: God, he was able to take a little snooze.
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2: All right, Well we'll jump right into our paw and order,
Speaker 2: all right, in honor of Doug the Pug, I made
Speaker 2: this paw and order addition for breaky cephalic breeds. Those
Speaker 2: are gonna be our smushed face breeds, like our Frenchies,
Speaker 2: Pugs of course, English bulldogs, Boston Terriers, Boxers, shitsus which
Speaker 2: Morgan has one.
Speaker 3: Up of sure do, and she snores a lot.
Speaker 2: They are little snores and they are so stinking cute.
Speaker 2: And I know I've talked about this one hundred times,
Speaker 2: but they just cannot breathe as well as dogs with
Speaker 2: long snouts can so any dog can overheat, but rereaky
Speaker 2: cephalic dogs are way more likely to overheat. So on
Speaker 2: days where it's over eighty degrees, if it's super humid outside,
Speaker 2: I highly recommend not going outside for long, long periods
Speaker 2: of time. If you have to go outside, like let's
Speaker 2: say you're on a patio or you're hanging out, make
Speaker 2: sure they have access to shade and plenty of water.
Speaker 2: I would avoid long walks. Don't play fetch. It can
Speaker 2: go from like a really fun afternoon where everything seems
Speaker 2: hunky dory, and then to all of a sudden, they're
Speaker 2: not able to regulate their body temperature. They're overheating, and
Speaker 2: it's a life threatening emergency.
Speaker 3: I've been able to tell this recently with my shit too.
Speaker 3: Andy will go on walks around my apartment and we
Speaker 3: make it maybe halfway around my apartment building, just my building, right,
Speaker 3: and I'm like, okay, I'm picking you up and we're
Speaker 3: going back now, and.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get you a stroller.
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's crazy. I mean, and they won't. I mean,
Speaker 2: they'll be usually the young ones too. They're tails wagging,
Speaker 2: they're bouncing around. Oh I'm super happy, and then all
Speaker 2: of a sudden they become too hot. They can't sweat
Speaker 2: like we can.
Speaker 3: Andy immediately comes in the house and she just lays
Speaker 3: flat out Superman pretty much and just has the cool
Speaker 3: floor on her stomach and then seems to get it
Speaker 3: back together. But yeah, it's worrisome.
Speaker 2: It is worrisome, and it's better to just be preventative
Speaker 2: and keep a really close eye on it and just
Speaker 2: know if it's hot out, if you're laying your hand
Speaker 2: on the concrete or cement and you know it feels
Speaker 2: very warm to you, that's what their paws are touching,
Speaker 2: that's what their bellies touching when they're laying down, and
Speaker 2: that's a recipe for them to overheat pretty quickly.
Speaker 3: Is there a sign when it's like, okay, they're not
Speaker 3: cooling themselves down, maybe I should take them into the vet.
Speaker 2: If they're a respiratory rate like let's say you were
Speaker 2: outside and now you're back inside and you've been inside
Speaker 2: for a couple of minutes and their respiratory rate is
Speaker 2: still really high. They're panting, they're you know, drooling from
Speaker 2: the mouth a lot of times. Their gum color or
Speaker 2: their tongue color will change. So if you see any
Speaker 2: like purplish color, if it's not that like bright healthy pink,
Speaker 2: that's like no boin, no sos, emergency, go to the
Speaker 2: hospital right away.
Speaker 3: Got it is that button still right over there, the
Speaker 3: one on the board. Yeah, okay, just checking.
Speaker 2: Producing and producer, Morgan.
Speaker 3: You just want to make sure you're glad to hear
Speaker 3: capturing this, you.
Speaker 1: Know, Yeah, this is very important information, all right.
Speaker 2: Number two, if you are planning to own a break
Speaker 2: ecephalic breed, then be prepared to wipe. My friends, there's
Speaker 2: a lot of wiping involved.
Speaker 1: Wipe.
Speaker 2: You have to wipe those nasal folds, those cute little
Speaker 2: wrinkles and folds all around their nose and their eyes
Speaker 2: are adorable, but they fill up with gunk. They get infected,
Speaker 2: and you want to start wiping from day one. You
Speaker 2: want to get them used to it as a puppy.
Speaker 2: And Morgan's like, I have never done this in my life.
Speaker 3: Once in my life have I wiped.
Speaker 2: I will say shitzuos, although they're breakie saphalac, they tend
Speaker 2: to have less folds than like a frenchie or a pug.
Speaker 2: Like they really I mean as you saw with Doug
Speaker 2: and Dory, like they have some pretty thick nasal folds.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think Andy's a little better off.
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe some less folds. So you're not don worry.
Speaker 2: We're not owner shaming you, I feel it.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 2: Uh so yeah, be prepared to wipe. You got to
Speaker 2: like open those folds up, get in there with your wipes,
Speaker 2: and really really clean them out. Unscented baby wipes are best,
Speaker 2: but if they are getting infected, if they're red, if
Speaker 2: they're stinky, you probably want to talk to your vet
Speaker 2: and get some medicated wipes.
Speaker 3: Imagine someone just tunes in the podcast like right here
Speaker 3: at this moment, and you're like, open those folds, get
Speaker 3: in there, white, get on, and then in there. Okay.
Speaker 2: And on that note, a lot of them have quirkscrew tails,
Speaker 2: like our bulldogs are Bostons, and those have a lot
Speaker 2: of folds around them too, So you want to clean
Speaker 2: out those little butt folds around their tails too.
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, such high maintenance.
Speaker 2: It is not a glamorous job, but someone's got to
Speaker 2: do it and it's important. So just start your wipe
Speaker 2: fund right now. If you're going to own a break
Speaker 2: eecephalic breed.
Speaker 3: And get in those folds, y'all.
Speaker 2: Get in those folds all right, last, but not least
Speaker 2: if they are coughing or sneezing excessively. Obviously a sneeze
Speaker 2: here and there is not the end of the world.
Speaker 2: But if you're like, hey, my dog's sneezing a lot,
Speaker 2: there's not coming out of its nose, take it to
Speaker 2: the vet right away. Any sign of a respiratory infection,
Speaker 2: and these pets that already can't really oxygenate that well
Speaker 2: should be taken really seriously. Sometimes our dogs that have
Speaker 2: a mile cough, we can give them a day or
Speaker 2: so see if they can clear it on their own,
Speaker 2: just like when you and I get a cold. But
Speaker 2: with a break acephalic, it's like nope, red flag, straight
Speaker 2: to the vet.
Speaker 3: I've been lucky there too. Andy hasn't done a lot
Speaker 3: of that. She had a little reverse sneezing spell for
Speaker 3: a few weeks and then that went away.
Speaker 1: M hm.
Speaker 3: And we've been smooth sailing since.
Speaker 2: We're going to do a whole thing on reverse sneezing
Speaker 2: for our listeners out there. I've had so many people
Speaker 2: ask me about this, so we will get to that,
Speaker 2: but yes, you are very lucky and that you haven't
Speaker 2: had that issue. Yeah, coughing is Coughing is no bueno,
Speaker 2: especially in our breaky syphlex So that's it. That's our
Speaker 2: last poll in order of the day. It was such
Speaker 2: a great episode. Loved having Doug here, Love having Morgan,
Speaker 2: producer Morgan President Morgan here. Oh my gosh, the president
Speaker 2: of the Nashville Podcast Network.
Speaker 3: Join more often. This has been a lot of fun
Speaker 3: and I feel like I can just use you to
Speaker 3: ask all my questions.
Speaker 2: I think. So this is your first appearance, but it
Speaker 2: won't be your last day.
Speaker 3: Awesome.
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