WEBVTT - Doug The Pug: The OG Dog Celebrity

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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to in the Vets Office with doctor Josie Horschak.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, welcome to in the Vets Office. I am

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<v Speaker 2>your host, Doctor Josie, and I am so excited about

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<v Speaker 2>this week's episode. We have the infamous og social media sensation,

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<v Speaker 2>Doug the Pug coming on. He I'm pretty sure is

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<v Speaker 2>the most followed dog in the world, and we have

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<v Speaker 2>produced a Morgan here today.

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<v Speaker 3>Hello. Not nearest important as Doug the Pug.

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<v Speaker 2>Doug the Pug takes the cake, but you're a pretty

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<v Speaker 2>close second.

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<v Speaker 3>Glad to be here.

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<v Speaker 2>So before we jump into our interview with Doug, we

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<v Speaker 2>are going to do our case of the week. So

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<v Speaker 2>this case happened back when I was living in downtown Chicago.

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<v Speaker 2>I was a fairly young veterinarian. It was just another

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<v Speaker 2>boring day in the office when all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 2>this young man comes in very shaken up, in shambles.

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<v Speaker 2>He had been out on his patio drinking his morning coffee,

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<v Speaker 2>reading his newspaper, and all of a sudden a cat

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<v Speaker 2>came falling out of the sky, Oh my god, and

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<v Speaker 2>onto the table of his patio. This cat lived twelve

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<v Speaker 2>stories above him, and his owner had often let him

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<v Speaker 2>out onto the balcony. He would just kind of sunbathe

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<v Speaker 2>and hang. But on this day a bird flew by

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<v Speaker 2>and he got a wild hair and decided he was

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<v Speaker 2>going to go catch that bird. So he jumped up

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<v Speaker 2>onto the railing, made the leap of faith, and gravity

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<v Speaker 2>took over and he went down twelve stories to this

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<v Speaker 2>man's patio.

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<v Speaker 1>Did this cat live?

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<v Speaker 2>This cat lived, So when they say cats have nine lives,

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<v Speaker 2>they truly mean it. The things that cats indoor and

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<v Speaker 2>then come out on the other side is amazing. This

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<v Speaker 2>is just one of the examples. The cat came in.

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<v Speaker 2>It was in shock. It had a broken jaw, a

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<v Speaker 2>broken leg.

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<v Speaker 3>Very when you say it's in shock, what is an

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<v Speaker 3>animal in shock?

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<v Speaker 2>Look like being in shock is a medical term meeting

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<v Speaker 2>like your blood pressure is affected, your heart rates affected,

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<v Speaker 2>you're dehydrated. So usually they have like really pale gums,

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<v Speaker 2>their heart rate can be through the roof, their blood

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<v Speaker 2>pressure is low. So he kind of checked all those boxes.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you immediately look at this cat and go hmmm,

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<v Speaker 3>oh it's aron great, or he's got a fighting chance.

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<v Speaker 2>This is uh yeah. I was like, this is probably

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<v Speaker 2>not going to end up well. But you never know

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<v Speaker 2>it's a cat. I'm telling you, they are survivors. Survivors.

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<v Speaker 2>So the owner wasn't there. So the guy you know,

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<v Speaker 2>brings the cat, comes running to the clinic. He was

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<v Speaker 2>only just a couple high rises away.

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<v Speaker 3>Good on him for bringing the cat that wasn't his

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<v Speaker 3>into the office.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, he puts that bill And funny enough, the cat

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<v Speaker 2>was one of our patients. So he just happened to

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<v Speaker 2>bring it to the right clinic odds. And we immediately

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<v Speaker 2>start stabilizing it and taking X rays and doing all

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<v Speaker 2>the things, giving it oxygen and fluids and doing life

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<v Speaker 2>saving procedures on it. And and somehow the owner, I

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<v Speaker 2>can't remember if he got a hold of the owner,

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<v Speaker 2>but the owner finds out, she comes in and we

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<v Speaker 2>were able to you know, he had to have surgery

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<v Speaker 2>on his broken bones, but we were able to save

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<v Speaker 2>his life.

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<v Speaker 3>First off, claps for doctor Josie and I don't want

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<v Speaker 3>to pet parents. Shame. But the owner wasn't home and

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<v Speaker 3>they let their cat on the balcony.

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<v Speaker 2>The owner was home, but it's like you leave your

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<v Speaker 2>little sliding door open. A lot a lot of owners

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<v Speaker 2>do this in the city. We saw this all the time.

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<v Speaker 2>In Chicago, where you leave the balcony open, pets come

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<v Speaker 2>in and out. Even here in Nashville, I see it

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<v Speaker 2>and they kind of come and go at their leisure,

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<v Speaker 2>usually while the parents home, And ninety nine percent of

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<v Speaker 2>the time they're fine.

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<v Speaker 1>But that one percent do you.

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<v Speaker 3>Go home that day and just feel like you really

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<v Speaker 3>rock that shit?

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<v Speaker 2>I go home that day and I'm like, oh my gosh,

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<v Speaker 2>that was I don't know. I don't think I rocked

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<v Speaker 2>that shit. I think about the owner. I'm like, gosh,

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<v Speaker 2>they must feel so guilty. You think about the man

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<v Speaker 2>drinking his coffee now as PTSD of cats falling out

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<v Speaker 2>of this. Sometimes I'll pat myself on the back every

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<v Speaker 2>once in a while, but for the most part, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>like reeling from how emotional everyone else must feel.

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<v Speaker 3>I bet it took that man a few weeks to

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<v Speaker 3>be able to go back on his patio after that.

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<v Speaker 3>Talk about the PTSD.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, you're getting the therapists after this. So now I was, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I was a reminder for me, if you're sending your

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<v Speaker 2>pets out onto the balcony, please keep a very very

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<v Speaker 2>very very close eye on them. And uh, I guess

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<v Speaker 2>if you're sitting on the tenth floor. Maybe we're a helmet.

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<v Speaker 1>Be careful.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh man, that's a really great pace of the week.

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<v Speaker 2>It was, And now we'll just dive right into our

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<v Speaker 2>our interview. So, as I said, we have Doug the

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<v Speaker 2>Pug coming on and his sister Dory. She's a new

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<v Speaker 2>addition to the family, and of course his mom, Leslie,

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<v Speaker 2>who will be answering the questions for him. Doug is,

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<v Speaker 2>as you know, the og social media pet sensation.

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<v Speaker 1>He has paved the way for.

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<v Speaker 2>The likes of like Mispeaches and all of these you

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<v Speaker 2>know pets that we've come to know and love on

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<v Speaker 2>Instagram and TikTok. He has over eighteen million followers across

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<v Speaker 2>his social media platforms and he is probably the most

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<v Speaker 2>famous dog in the world.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's more successful than we'll probably ever be.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh he is more. We will never come a tenth

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<v Speaker 1>of us clothes. That's the successful bug walked.

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<v Speaker 2>So Alex Earl could run exactly exactly, and that's the

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<v Speaker 2>perfect segue. We're gonna take a quick break and when

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<v Speaker 2>we get back, we'll have Doug here.

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<v Speaker 3>Awesome all right.

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<v Speaker 2>In the Vets office, we have Doug the Pug, who's

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<v Speaker 2>here today with his mom, Leslie, and his baby sister Dorry.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm so excited to have you guys.

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<v Speaker 1>Story's podcast debut. Oh my gosh.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, Doug is a he is a veteran in this,

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<v Speaker 2>He's like, I'm over it. But Dory's here. She is

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<v Speaker 2>ready to go, so I'm excited. It's her first podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>She's so we're probably gonna hear a lot of snores today.

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<v Speaker 1>Doug is like in total chill mode next to me,

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<v Speaker 1>and Dorry is all about this.

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<v Speaker 2>She's at attention, She's ready to go. Well, welcome. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>so excited to have you here. I have been following

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<v Speaker 2>Doug for many years, and I knew that he was

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<v Speaker 2>probably like one of the most famous dogs in the world.

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<v Speaker 2>But when I was researching today's interview, I didn't realize

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<v Speaker 2>just how impressive his resume is. So I'm going to

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<v Speaker 2>read a snippet of this for the listeners out there

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<v Speaker 2>who probably also follow him, but just like didn't realize

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<v Speaker 2>how big of a deal he is. So Doug has

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<v Speaker 2>won two People's Choice Awards. He starred in a Super

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<v Speaker 2>Bowl commercial. He has a New York Times best selling book,

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<v Speaker 2>a top selling calendar. He has his own merchandise and

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<v Speaker 2>holistic pet care line. He has starred in music videos

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<v Speaker 2>for Katie Perry, Dncee, and Fallout Boy. He has been

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<v Speaker 2>kissed by the one and only Justin Bieber, and the

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<v Speaker 2>mayor of Nashville has declared his birthday, which is May twentieth,

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<v Speaker 2>as the Doug the Pug Day in the city.

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<v Speaker 1>That's wild. It's wild, I mean that is crazy. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>It's been a very fun and insane ride that never

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<v Speaker 1>ceases to blow our mind. Sometimes I wake up in

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<v Speaker 1>the morning and I'm like, what happened?

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<v Speaker 2>Like, Yeah, can you just to kind of like rewind

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<v Speaker 2>all the way back to the beginning?

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<v Speaker 1>How did this all come to me? So? I used

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<v Speaker 1>to actually work a few buildings over Okay, on music row.

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<v Speaker 1>I went to Belmont and that's what moved me to Nashville.

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<v Speaker 1>And I had dreams of working in the music industry

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<v Speaker 1>and doing marketing and PR and like graphic design and

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<v Speaker 1>branding and stuff for bands. And so I got a

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<v Speaker 1>job doing that at a small record label artist management company.

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<v Speaker 1>And I got Doug when I was a junior at Belmont,

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<v Speaker 1>and so I was in college in college, and so

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<v Speaker 1>I was going to work on music row and then

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<v Speaker 1>I would come home and I had my dream pug

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<v Speaker 1>who loved getting dressed up and loved doing activities with

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<v Speaker 1>me around town. And it became this kind of true

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<v Speaker 1>where I would get home from work and go out

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<v Speaker 1>around Nashville and take pictures with him. This was in

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<v Speaker 1>the very beginning of Instagram. I think this was twenty

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<v Speaker 1>thirteen when I started posting him, and so I just

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<v Speaker 1>did it for fun on my personal Instagram. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>no one even really had like my friends didn't even

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<v Speaker 1>really have it. It was mostly Facebook at that time.

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<v Speaker 1>And I would post him and say, Doug the pug

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<v Speaker 1>doing that Doug and I blah blah blah, and people

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<v Speaker 1>just wanted to see Doug. So if I posted anything

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<v Speaker 1>on my personal Instagram that wasn't Doug, people were like,

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<v Speaker 1>where's Doug, Like, we don't really care. They just wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to see Doug. And so I started getting a little

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<v Speaker 1>more creative and doing I started getting a little more

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<v Speaker 1>creative and doing you know, things that were on trend,

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<v Speaker 1>like holiday type things, or if a famous artist was

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<v Speaker 1>coming into Nashville. I would like play off that and

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<v Speaker 1>big Instagram pug accounts that had all these followers the

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<v Speaker 1>time when they would take our photos and post them

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<v Speaker 1>and tag us, they would get so many likes, and

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<v Speaker 1>it was this rush of like, WHOA, that's so cool

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<v Speaker 1>a photo that I took and a concept that I

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<v Speaker 1>came up with, and the styling and everything, like people

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<v Speaker 1>are resonating with this, they like it. And again this

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<v Speaker 1>is very condensed. But I ended up switching my account

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<v Speaker 1>from me to just dug and putting more effort and

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<v Speaker 1>time into it. And he reached one hundred thousand followers

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<v Speaker 1>on Instagram, which was insane and huge and amazing at

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<v Speaker 1>the time, and we had a little party and I

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<v Speaker 1>was just honestly a very fun hobby. It got me,

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<v Speaker 1>brought me a lot of joy, and it brought other

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<v Speaker 1>people joy. And I would be lying if I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>say that. At that time, I saw it being something

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<v Speaker 1>like what it is now. I had this gut feeling

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<v Speaker 1>to pursue it, and so I actually when he hit

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred thousand followers, I put in I noticed to

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<v Speaker 1>quit my job. Wow, and people thought I was crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>I kind of lied to most people and said I'm

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<v Speaker 1>starting my own graphic design business because I didn't want

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<v Speaker 1>to be like so I have this dog that has

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<v Speaker 1>on Instagram, and I think he would make a really cute,

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<v Speaker 1>stuffy animal. But it happened as soon as I put

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<v Speaker 1>my notice in for that job. At that one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>thousand party, we had a pug balloon left over, and

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<v Speaker 1>Rob and I were just dating at the time, and

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<v Speaker 1>he was on tour and so all by myself, I

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<v Speaker 1>went to Dragon Park in Hillsborough Village, which was right

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<v Speaker 1>by my old apartment, and I tied the pug balloon

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<v Speaker 1>to Doug. And again, he doesn't care about anything, so

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<v Speaker 1>he was all about it. He was running around the

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<v Speaker 1>park with this pug balloon attached to him and I

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<v Speaker 1>sent the footage to Rob and I said, can you

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<v Speaker 1>put a cute song over this? Can you put like people?

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<v Speaker 1>Let me tell you about my best friend, Like, let's

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<v Speaker 1>make the pug balloon his best friend. And I posted

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<v Speaker 1>it to Doug's Facebook, his Instagram, and then I made

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<v Speaker 1>him a Twitter because I was like, what would a

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<v Speaker 1>band need, Like if I were to help one of

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<v Speaker 1>my artists at the label, what would they need? And

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<v Speaker 1>so I put it on all these things and I

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<v Speaker 1>had a logo for Doug and I took it very seriously.

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<v Speaker 1>But that night I posted it, didn't think anything of it.

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<v Speaker 1>I woke up and I looked on Facebook. He had

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<v Speaker 1>three thousand likes at the time on Facebook, and the

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<v Speaker 1>next day he had like fifteen thousand. I'm like, what happened?

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<v Speaker 1>And I looked at the video and had twenty million views.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, and this is the one hundred k party where

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<v Speaker 2>he's running around with a pug bull.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, Like right after that party, I took a little

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<v Speaker 1>video with a leftover balloon and I was like, whoa.

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<v Speaker 1>All of a sudden, it was real okay, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>And by the end of that week he had a

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<v Speaker 1>million likes followers on Facebook.

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<v Speaker 2>Doug was like, my mom just quit her job. I

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<v Speaker 2>got to go to one.

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<v Speaker 1>He was like, let's go. And so it was this

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<v Speaker 1>crazy feeling of like I felt very ready for it,

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<v Speaker 1>because I had already kind of set it up for success,

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<v Speaker 1>but for it to actually happened and for me to

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<v Speaker 1>have the free time to do it. So Rob luckily

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<v Speaker 1>got home from tour right around then, and we just

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<v Speaker 1>started making videos. I mean every day we were coming

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<v Speaker 1>up with like, let's dress dug up as Harry Potter

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<v Speaker 1>and call him Harry Pugger. Or you know all these

0:12:21.679 --> 0:12:24.840
<v Speaker 1>popular TV shows The Walking Dead. I dressed him as

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<v Speaker 1>a zombie and we were crazy people running around Radnor

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<v Speaker 1>Lake with our dog with a dressed as a zombie

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<v Speaker 1>and like but we didn't care. It was just this

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<v Speaker 1>very exhilarating time. And within a few months we had

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<v Speaker 1>a book deal and later that year we were going

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<v Speaker 1>on a book tour all over the world. We went

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<v Speaker 1>to London.

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<v Speaker 2>Did he hit his first million followers that year?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh? Yeah, so he on Facebook went from three thousand

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<v Speaker 1>to a million within like a few weeks. Okay, on Instagram.

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<v Speaker 1>Instagram's a harder platform to grow, so I think it

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<v Speaker 1>took a little longer. But honestly, Justin Bieber posting. He

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<v Speaker 1>posted two pictures of Doug. His label actually hit us

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<v Speaker 1>up and was like, hey, remember the Justin Bieber era

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<v Speaker 1>of like sorry and what do you mean?

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<v Speaker 2>It was like the best era, take me back?

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<v Speaker 1>And he was like on the Calvin Klein ads, they

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<v Speaker 1>asked Doug to be a part of a countdown for

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<v Speaker 1>how many days until? What do you mean? Okay? And

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<v Speaker 1>so I took pictures of Doug wearing Calvin kleins and

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<v Speaker 1>that little sign that said eight days what do you mean?

0:13:36.800 --> 0:13:40.679
<v Speaker 1>And Justin posted two of those photos and tagged Doug.

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<v Speaker 1>We went up like one hundred thousand followers in a day,

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<v Speaker 1>I bet, and it was. It's just still so crazy

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<v Speaker 1>to even look back on that and to see what

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<v Speaker 1>it is now, and just it's been the most amazing

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<v Speaker 1>fun ride and Doug loves every second of it.

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<v Speaker 2>One thing that you said that I just feel like

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<v Speaker 2>sitting here and talking with you is I feel like

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<v Speaker 2>there's Instagram influencers and TikTokers where you're like, Okay, this

0:14:05.640 --> 0:14:08.040
<v Speaker 2>is like their job and you can kind of tell

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<v Speaker 2>like it just seems so organic and you just enjoy

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, obviously he's like your child, so you enjoy

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<v Speaker 2>doing it. He loves to do it, and like that

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<v Speaker 2>just really translates. I thank you on his page is

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<v Speaker 2>why he's so successful.

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<v Speaker 1>I really appreciate that. I feel like, obviously social media

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<v Speaker 1>has changed exponentially. We've been doing it full time for

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<v Speaker 1>almost ten years and it's changed so much. And I

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<v Speaker 1>think every day I have to make the conscious choice

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<v Speaker 1>and Rob as well to do it because we love it, right,

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<v Speaker 1>Because we would have a completely different approach to social

0:14:45.560 --> 0:14:48.600
<v Speaker 1>media with Doug if we were doing it just for

0:14:48.680 --> 0:14:52.520
<v Speaker 1>the followers and the clout at this point. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>so it's honestly become so much more laid back, and

0:14:56.160 --> 0:14:58.320
<v Speaker 1>we're a lot happier because of it because we're just

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<v Speaker 1>sharing like literally what we want to share doing anyway there. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we feel like we have nothing else to prove at

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<v Speaker 1>this point, right, and it's it's just like truly for

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<v Speaker 1>fun and to like we still have so many big

0:15:13.960 --> 0:15:18.840
<v Speaker 1>dreams obviously, but his happiness and our happiness is like

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<v Speaker 1>most important.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course, does he have an agent or do you

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<v Speaker 2>guys do everything?

0:15:32.760 --> 0:15:35.880
<v Speaker 1>He does have an agent And that's a funny story too.

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<v Speaker 1>So again, when this video went viral, it was March

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<v Speaker 1>of twenty fifteen, and there were no the term influencer

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't even a thing. Content creator wasn't even a thing.

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<v Speaker 1>He's really the og. He's the og dog, celebrity dog.

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<v Speaker 1>But we didn't know what to do because it was like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>we're having these brands that want to collaborate with us,

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<v Speaker 1>but like we I guess we need to set up

0:16:03.720 --> 0:16:06.560
<v Speaker 1>a business like for our dog, Like okay, I think

0:16:06.560 --> 0:16:09.200
<v Speaker 1>we can do this. Like again, people thought we were

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<v Speaker 1>crazy and we met our agent at a wedding and

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<v Speaker 1>she was working in the music industry but came from

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<v Speaker 1>the agency world, and she was like, I think I

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<v Speaker 1>think we could do this, guys, Like what if we

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<v Speaker 1>just did a six month trial contract. I'll pitch you

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<v Speaker 1>to the brands, I'll negotiate for you, Like, let's just

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<v Speaker 1>see what happens. And her name's Toy. She has been

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<v Speaker 1>with us for almost ten years now and she's now

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<v Speaker 1>the president of Talent at Whaler Agency, which is like

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<v Speaker 1>the biggest creator agency, And she was just invited to

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<v Speaker 1>the White House to speak in front of the President

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<v Speaker 1>about content creators and like raising like rights for content

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<v Speaker 1>creators and helping with like things like insurance, like treating

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<v Speaker 1>us as real business owners. Yeah, and so even she's

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<v Speaker 1>evolved so much. So. Yeah, we have a small but

0:17:00.120 --> 0:17:03.320
<v Speaker 1>mighty team and ninety percent of those people have been

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<v Speaker 1>with us since the beginning, before it was even a thing.

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<v Speaker 1>That's amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that speaks a lot to probably working with you guys,

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<v Speaker 2>and thank you of course Doug too. Has there been

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, from all the concerts and red carpets and

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<v Speaker 2>sporting events, has there ever been a moment where you're like,

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<v Speaker 2>I cannot believe that. I'm sure it happens all the time,

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<v Speaker 2>but like, what is the moment where you're like, I

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<v Speaker 2>can't believe this is happening.

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<v Speaker 1>So this is my go to answer. I have a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of moments where I'm just like, it feels very

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<v Speaker 1>out of body. I've had to learn that before we

0:17:32.040 --> 0:17:34.440
<v Speaker 1>walk into something where we're like, Okay, this is crazy,

0:17:34.800 --> 0:17:38.440
<v Speaker 1>I have to like be as present as possible because afterwards,

0:17:39.160 --> 0:17:42.000
<v Speaker 1>when it becomes just a memory, it's it's just so weird,

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<v Speaker 1>like did I just black out? So Shakira flew us

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<v Speaker 1>to Barcelona, Sony Latin, her label hit us up and

0:17:52.400 --> 0:17:54.440
<v Speaker 1>they were like, we want Doug to promote her song

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<v Speaker 1>El perro Fiel. And it was like a natural thing

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<v Speaker 1>and they're like can you come to bar Salona next week?

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<v Speaker 1>And we're like okay, and they're like, oh yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna shoot with Shakira and this time, this place is.

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<v Speaker 1>It ended up being at her house, wow, And it

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<v Speaker 1>was so low key and laid back that we actually

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<v Speaker 1>like got to spend the day with her amazing, and

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<v Speaker 1>she was so lovely and so beautiful and kind and

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<v Speaker 1>loved Doug, and Doug was playing with her kids. And

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<v Speaker 1>that's probably the most pinch me moment is I have goosebump. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>being in Shakira's mansion looking over Barcelona and it being

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<v Speaker 1>like a genuine moment. I think that's the cool thing

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<v Speaker 1>about Doug is when we do meet these people that,

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<v Speaker 1>like a lot of them are my heroes. Like, you know,

0:18:49.359 --> 0:18:52.600
<v Speaker 1>I grew up as a musician, my husband too, So

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<v Speaker 1>like when we get to meet people from the past

0:18:56.200 --> 0:18:59.320
<v Speaker 1>that we listened to, it's really cool because when they

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<v Speaker 1>meet Doug, it to them is like a breath of

0:19:03.280 --> 0:19:06.080
<v Speaker 1>fresh air to meet a dog, you know, like they're

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<v Speaker 1>not on right, they are just solely excited to meet

0:19:11.240 --> 0:19:13.480
<v Speaker 1>a dog, right, And so we get to kind of

0:19:13.520 --> 0:19:17.919
<v Speaker 1>see people for who they are. Oh high doors do.

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<v Speaker 2>Has jumped off of my chair and now she's like,

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<v Speaker 2>I want to see another you can hang some of baby.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh there we go. There we go, two pugs in

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<v Speaker 1>that chair. Good shot.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, it's funny you say that because I've said that

0:19:28.440 --> 0:19:33.560
<v Speaker 2>on this podcast. When I interview celebrities or musicians, they're

0:19:33.560 --> 0:19:36.040
<v Speaker 2>always talking about their jobs and their career and they're this,

0:19:36.160 --> 0:19:39.960
<v Speaker 2>but when you talk about their pets, Oh, they immediately softened,

0:19:40.000 --> 0:19:42.560
<v Speaker 2>and it's just like a different side of them. I

0:19:42.560 --> 0:19:44.400
<v Speaker 2>think it's like such a special side that most people

0:19:44.400 --> 0:19:45.119
<v Speaker 2>don't get to see.

0:19:45.200 --> 0:19:47.720
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's the best of us. It totally takes off

0:19:47.760 --> 0:19:51.720
<v Speaker 1>that veil. And that's like been one of the coolest

0:19:52.440 --> 0:19:55.520
<v Speaker 1>parts is again meeting people that we grew up listening

0:19:55.520 --> 0:19:58.120
<v Speaker 1>to and realizing that they're just humans. They're just like us,

0:19:58.400 --> 0:20:00.600
<v Speaker 1>just like us, and they love it. If they don't

0:20:00.600 --> 0:20:03.000
<v Speaker 1>love animals, that's the red flag.

0:20:03.040 --> 0:20:06.520
<v Speaker 2>We have nothing in common, Like I can't really, it

0:20:06.600 --> 0:20:07.639
<v Speaker 2>is the ultimate red flag.

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<v Speaker 1>I agree.

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<v Speaker 2>Obviously, he's a very chill guy. I mean he's like

0:20:11.040 --> 0:20:13.040
<v Speaker 2>half asleep on the chair as we speak right now.

0:20:13.320 --> 0:20:15.800
<v Speaker 2>Story's laying on top of this is what we call

0:20:15.880 --> 0:20:18.800
<v Speaker 2>pug piling. I love it, and they are the masters

0:20:18.840 --> 0:20:21.280
<v Speaker 2>of it. And Doug just doesn't mind. And he's just like,

0:20:21.320 --> 0:20:24.480
<v Speaker 2>come on top, He's here for it. Has there ever

0:20:24.520 --> 0:20:27.240
<v Speaker 2>been I mean, clearly he enjoys the attention. He's very

0:20:27.320 --> 0:20:29.480
<v Speaker 2>laid back. Has there ever been an experience or a

0:20:29.480 --> 0:20:31.520
<v Speaker 2>circumstance We're like, hmm, I don't know if he's really

0:20:31.600 --> 0:20:32.959
<v Speaker 2>liking this, Like I kind of feel like I need

0:20:33.000 --> 0:20:34.480
<v Speaker 2>to step in there.

0:20:34.320 --> 0:20:38.480
<v Speaker 1>Have been parts of like meet and greets when it

0:20:38.640 --> 0:20:42.520
<v Speaker 1>just gets to be too much and I pull him away. Obviously,

0:20:43.200 --> 0:20:47.080
<v Speaker 1>his safety and happiness is number one. And the nice

0:20:47.119 --> 0:20:49.440
<v Speaker 1>thing is that we've figured it out over the years,

0:20:49.480 --> 0:20:53.399
<v Speaker 1>like what is appropriate and what's not, because you know,

0:20:53.560 --> 0:20:58.760
<v Speaker 1>I feel like Doug and I are so cosmically intertwined,

0:20:58.920 --> 0:21:01.439
<v Speaker 1>to say the least, where we both pick up on

0:21:01.720 --> 0:21:05.080
<v Speaker 1>each other's energy to a fault, where like, if I'm

0:21:05.119 --> 0:21:07.399
<v Speaker 1>really stressed, Doug is not going to be feeling all

0:21:07.440 --> 0:21:10.320
<v Speaker 1>that day, and so I have to be very cognizant

0:21:11.040 --> 0:21:13.960
<v Speaker 1>and in that same breath, I can pick up on

0:21:14.200 --> 0:21:17.400
<v Speaker 1>if something is wrong and you know, it doesn't ever

0:21:17.480 --> 0:21:20.600
<v Speaker 1>really happened, but like, you know, if there is a

0:21:20.640 --> 0:21:24.000
<v Speaker 1>situation where I'm like, Doug doesn't like this, or you know,

0:21:24.080 --> 0:21:27.520
<v Speaker 1>if there's another animal on set or something that like

0:21:27.880 --> 0:21:31.280
<v Speaker 1>is not making him feel good or bad, then I

0:21:31.320 --> 0:21:34.160
<v Speaker 1>pull him away. And we've learned to like have those

0:21:34.200 --> 0:21:37.399
<v Speaker 1>boundaries for him and advocate for him like that.

0:21:37.520 --> 0:21:42.200
<v Speaker 2>Sin They're so cute, They're amazing. We're getting this on video. Yeah,

0:21:42.240 --> 0:21:44.840
<v Speaker 2>I think that. You know, it's so interesting when owners

0:21:44.880 --> 0:21:46.480
<v Speaker 2>come into me and they're telling me how their dog

0:21:46.560 --> 0:21:48.480
<v Speaker 2>is sick and they'll be like no, like I know

0:21:48.640 --> 0:21:50.440
<v Speaker 2>they're not doing it right now, but I promise you

0:21:50.520 --> 0:21:51.800
<v Speaker 2>they're sick. And I look at them and I say,

0:21:51.840 --> 0:21:54.280
<v Speaker 2>you know your dog better than anybody, like I trust you,

0:21:55.000 --> 0:21:57.439
<v Speaker 2>And so I think there's such a It's I know

0:21:57.480 --> 0:21:59.159
<v Speaker 2>we didn't birth them, but it sure feels like we

0:21:59.280 --> 0:22:02.400
<v Speaker 2>birthed them. I joke that I've birthed my dogs, and

0:22:03.640 --> 0:22:05.680
<v Speaker 2>I get one hundred percent what you're saying, like how

0:22:05.760 --> 0:22:08.439
<v Speaker 2>you feel like you are like soul twins and you

0:22:08.560 --> 0:22:11.520
<v Speaker 2>understand like when each other's off. So he's lucky that

0:22:11.560 --> 0:22:13.639
<v Speaker 2>he has a mom that advocates for him in that sense.

0:22:13.960 --> 0:22:16.160
<v Speaker 2>He probably would not have, you know, had the long

0:22:16.200 --> 0:22:18.159
<v Speaker 2>of a successful career if you didn't Thank you.

0:22:18.400 --> 0:22:18.960
<v Speaker 1>So that's good.

0:22:20.480 --> 0:22:23.959
<v Speaker 2>Any crazy dms that he's gotten on Instagram, are they

0:22:24.000 --> 0:22:24.760
<v Speaker 2>all pretty tame?

0:22:25.800 --> 0:22:29.440
<v Speaker 1>We've had some interesting people for sure, Like people have

0:22:29.520 --> 0:22:33.159
<v Speaker 1>offered to purchase him, to purchase him, yes, feel like

0:22:33.160 --> 0:22:35.919
<v Speaker 1>there's not a price chat and it's it's kind of

0:22:35.960 --> 0:22:38.440
<v Speaker 1>insane to see.

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<v Speaker 2>That's really crazy to me. It's very are they going

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<v Speaker 2>out numbers.

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<v Speaker 1>It's very strange or like there's a lot of people

0:22:44.640 --> 0:22:47.639
<v Speaker 1>that think that. It's like almost like they live in

0:22:47.680 --> 0:22:50.840
<v Speaker 1>our house. It's like they know all these things. I'm like,

0:22:50.880 --> 0:22:53.320
<v Speaker 1>how do you know that? Like I've never even posted that.

0:22:53.600 --> 0:22:57.159
<v Speaker 1>It's mostly like people just loving them and being sweet.

0:22:57.200 --> 0:23:01.439
<v Speaker 1>I think again, the crazy part is like when someone

0:23:01.480 --> 0:23:03.760
<v Speaker 1>shows up in our dms that's like from our past,

0:23:03.840 --> 0:23:08.000
<v Speaker 1>like when I was young, you know, Backstreet Boys, biggest deal.

0:23:08.600 --> 0:23:11.159
<v Speaker 1>Like still, I'll listen to it and it brings me

0:23:11.280 --> 0:23:14.080
<v Speaker 1>right back. And then Nick Carter's just like, hey, can

0:23:14.160 --> 0:23:16.359
<v Speaker 1>Doug come? I want to hang out with him before

0:23:16.359 --> 0:23:18.520
<v Speaker 1>the show? Can we make a video? And it's it's

0:23:18.640 --> 0:23:22.479
<v Speaker 1>just very wild to get a message like that, and

0:23:22.480 --> 0:23:25.200
<v Speaker 1>then you realize that it really was him. It wasn't

0:23:25.200 --> 0:23:30.040
<v Speaker 1>like his agent or manager or something. Right. Oh, Dory's

0:23:30.119 --> 0:23:31.480
<v Speaker 1>arm is literally around Doug.

0:23:32.960 --> 0:23:34.800
<v Speaker 2>This is a perfect segue because I was gonna ask.

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<v Speaker 2>I know, Dory is a new addition to the family. She,

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<v Speaker 2>from what I have seen, was rescued. I'm really interested

0:23:41.320 --> 0:23:43.880
<v Speaker 2>in how she came into your family. How is Doug

0:23:43.920 --> 0:23:45.080
<v Speaker 2>feeling about having a sister.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so we had talked about getting Doug a sibling

0:23:50.560 --> 0:23:53.119
<v Speaker 1>for quite some time, and we didn't know what it

0:23:53.160 --> 0:23:57.080
<v Speaker 1>would look like. I knew that I wanted to rescue,

0:23:57.160 --> 0:24:01.879
<v Speaker 1>and I followed a ton of Hug rescues and was

0:24:01.960 --> 0:24:04.520
<v Speaker 1>just like, Okay, I'm going to leave it up to

0:24:04.560 --> 0:24:07.240
<v Speaker 1>the powers that be and if I see a dog

0:24:07.760 --> 0:24:10.919
<v Speaker 1>that I know, when I the moment I see the photo,

0:24:11.040 --> 0:24:13.760
<v Speaker 1>I know that's our dog. We'll pursue it, we'll figure

0:24:13.760 --> 0:24:16.000
<v Speaker 1>it out. I've just got to let it go and

0:24:16.080 --> 0:24:20.399
<v Speaker 1>see what happens. And it was a crazy kind of

0:24:20.480 --> 0:24:24.920
<v Speaker 1>six seven, eight months of waiting. So not to get

0:24:24.960 --> 0:24:28.360
<v Speaker 1>too heavy on here, but Rob, Doug's dad, my husband,

0:24:28.440 --> 0:24:32.800
<v Speaker 1>was diagnosed with MS almost a year ago, and so

0:24:33.560 --> 0:24:36.399
<v Speaker 1>our decision to add another dog into the family was

0:24:36.480 --> 0:24:39.840
<v Speaker 1>partly as a therapy dog for him, you know, Doug

0:24:39.880 --> 0:24:42.639
<v Speaker 1>and I obviously Doug is obsessed with Rob, but he

0:24:42.760 --> 0:24:45.879
<v Speaker 1>is like very attached to me. Like if I'm sitting,

0:24:45.920 --> 0:24:48.560
<v Speaker 1>he's next to me. If I'm laying, he's laying next

0:24:48.600 --> 0:24:50.680
<v Speaker 1>to me. And we were like Rob needs like his

0:24:51.080 --> 0:24:55.680
<v Speaker 1>you know, his soul dog. And he was actually in

0:24:55.840 --> 0:25:00.479
<v Speaker 1>his one year MRI or no six month MRI something.

0:25:00.760 --> 0:25:03.520
<v Speaker 1>It was a very important scan and so I'm like

0:25:04.240 --> 0:25:06.960
<v Speaker 1>in the back room at Vanderbilt Hospital, he's in there.

0:25:07.359 --> 0:25:10.240
<v Speaker 1>I'm like doom scrolling, you know, like the dog Doug

0:25:10.359 --> 0:25:12.400
<v Speaker 1>was not with me. I'm just kind of all alone.

0:25:12.880 --> 0:25:15.480
<v Speaker 1>And then I see one of those rescues that I followed,

0:25:15.520 --> 0:25:18.159
<v Speaker 1>like posted a graphic and there were three pugs on it.

0:25:18.680 --> 0:25:22.200
<v Speaker 1>Very small picture, but one of them caught my eye

0:25:22.600 --> 0:25:24.920
<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, oh my gosh, she looks like Doug.

0:25:25.200 --> 0:25:28.159
<v Speaker 1>Like that's crazy, because Doug, you know how it is

0:25:28.160 --> 0:25:30.679
<v Speaker 1>with your dogs. It's rare to see another dog that

0:25:30.760 --> 0:25:32.760
<v Speaker 1>like really looks like your dog. But when you do,

0:25:32.800 --> 0:25:38.320
<v Speaker 1>it's like whoa. And that happened, and so like I

0:25:38.480 --> 0:25:44.400
<v Speaker 1>start messaging the rescue, and before I knew it, Rob

0:25:44.440 --> 0:25:46.679
<v Speaker 1>woke up. It was a you know, tough tough night

0:25:46.760 --> 0:25:49.679
<v Speaker 1>for him. He had to take some medication to calm

0:25:49.720 --> 0:25:52.080
<v Speaker 1>down in the MRI, so he was conked out when

0:25:52.080 --> 0:25:54.840
<v Speaker 1>we got home and fell asleep at nine pm. But

0:25:54.960 --> 0:25:59.680
<v Speaker 1>here I am messaging the foster the rescue all night

0:25:59.720 --> 0:26:01.960
<v Speaker 1>I could, and I did not sleep one minute because

0:26:01.960 --> 0:26:03.800
<v Speaker 1>I was like, I just think I found our dog.

0:26:04.240 --> 0:26:06.840
<v Speaker 1>And so Rob woke up and I'm like, Hi, like,

0:26:06.960 --> 0:26:10.439
<v Speaker 1>hope you feel good, but what do you think?

0:26:10.720 --> 0:26:11.120
<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

0:26:11.160 --> 0:26:15.399
<v Speaker 1>And he was like, let's do it. Ending Within a

0:26:15.440 --> 0:26:19.520
<v Speaker 1>few days, she the rescue was amazing enough to fly

0:26:19.640 --> 0:26:22.520
<v Speaker 1>her to Nashville from California. We got her from Tiny

0:26:22.560 --> 0:26:26.960
<v Speaker 1>Paws Plug Rescue. They're an amazing organization. And she was

0:26:27.000 --> 0:26:31.280
<v Speaker 1>actually found abandoned in a field, because who would ever

0:26:31.359 --> 0:26:35.520
<v Speaker 1>do that to any animal? But she was found and

0:26:35.560 --> 0:26:38.320
<v Speaker 1>she stayed with an amazing foster for about a month.

0:26:39.080 --> 0:26:43.359
<v Speaker 1>And now she is the second love of our life,

0:26:43.400 --> 0:26:45.399
<v Speaker 1>actually the fourth love of our life because we have

0:26:45.440 --> 0:26:46.240
<v Speaker 1>two cats.

0:26:46.000 --> 0:26:46.480
<v Speaker 3>That we love.

0:26:46.680 --> 0:26:49.439
<v Speaker 2>Oh my goodness, how I mean it seems like they

0:26:49.440 --> 0:26:51.600
<v Speaker 2>get along great. Was Doug at first like, whoaa, I'm

0:26:51.600 --> 0:26:52.960
<v Speaker 2>an only child, our only dog?

0:26:53.359 --> 0:26:56.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean there's there's always an adjustment period, you know,

0:26:57.160 --> 0:27:02.000
<v Speaker 1>but he he like totally accepts her and they do

0:27:02.080 --> 0:27:06.640
<v Speaker 1>really cute things together. And do they clean each other? No,

0:27:06.880 --> 0:27:09.240
<v Speaker 1>oh sometimes Doug has done that before. We got it

0:27:09.280 --> 0:27:11.280
<v Speaker 1>on video, so he did it once and I was like,

0:27:11.320 --> 0:27:13.280
<v Speaker 1>maybe this will be a thing. Yeah, hasn't been anything,

0:27:14.800 --> 0:27:17.600
<v Speaker 1>but yeah, they he's he's been doing so great. We're

0:27:17.640 --> 0:27:20.919
<v Speaker 1>really really proud of him. And she just adores him, like,

0:27:22.000 --> 0:27:25.480
<v Speaker 1>oh she obviously she can't get enough of him.

0:27:27.240 --> 0:27:29.560
<v Speaker 2>And do you feel like it's worked out? Because I

0:27:29.640 --> 0:27:32.240
<v Speaker 2>have found that in our little family at home that

0:27:32.640 --> 0:27:35.240
<v Speaker 2>our girl dog loves my husband. Of course she loves me,

0:27:35.280 --> 0:27:37.040
<v Speaker 2>but she really loves my husband and the boy dogs

0:27:37.080 --> 0:27:37.600
<v Speaker 2>really love me.

0:27:37.760 --> 0:27:41.240
<v Speaker 1>It's exactly that, I mean crazy. That's why it's so

0:27:42.040 --> 0:27:44.480
<v Speaker 1>amazing that it worked out this way, because we knew

0:27:44.560 --> 0:27:47.680
<v Speaker 1>Rob needed his own dog. I mean, obviously dor is

0:27:47.720 --> 0:27:51.280
<v Speaker 1>mine too, but of course she is like daddy's girl,

0:27:51.560 --> 0:27:56.040
<v Speaker 1>like so cleany. She always has to be with Daddy.

0:27:56.600 --> 0:27:59.680
<v Speaker 2>It's so cute. It's so special. It's nice because we

0:27:59.800 --> 0:28:01.840
<v Speaker 2>had similar where it was like, Okay, the dogs all

0:28:01.840 --> 0:28:03.880
<v Speaker 2>love their mom and my husband's like I love them

0:28:03.920 --> 0:28:06.000
<v Speaker 2>so much, but like they really love you, and so

0:28:06.040 --> 0:28:07.879
<v Speaker 2>it's nice when they have their own sort of like

0:28:07.920 --> 0:28:11.240
<v Speaker 2>you said, their own dog. Yeah, it's so special story.

0:28:11.320 --> 0:28:13.800
<v Speaker 2>You're so cute. He might be the start of the show.

0:28:13.960 --> 0:28:17.400
<v Speaker 1>Tory Doug is like, I'm going to use any opportunity

0:28:17.440 --> 0:28:19.800
<v Speaker 1>to that, but I like, I'm going to sleep. Uh.

0:28:19.960 --> 0:28:22.840
<v Speaker 2>One thing, this is sort of switching topics, but one

0:28:22.880 --> 0:28:25.520
<v Speaker 2>of the things that you had talked about on your

0:28:25.560 --> 0:28:28.920
<v Speaker 2>Instagram that I had never heard anybody verbalized. I guess

0:28:28.960 --> 0:28:31.199
<v Speaker 2>I subconsciously have thought about it, but I thought it

0:28:31.240 --> 0:28:34.720
<v Speaker 2>was really interesting that you brought up was and I

0:28:34.760 --> 0:28:36.800
<v Speaker 2>don't know exactly how it way. I'm kind of paraphrasing here,

0:28:36.840 --> 0:28:38.320
<v Speaker 2>but you had gone to the park or you were

0:28:38.320 --> 0:28:40.320
<v Speaker 2>out and about and someone had saw a Doug and

0:28:40.320 --> 0:28:42.360
<v Speaker 2>they were like, oh wow, it's not like he's looking wow,

0:28:42.400 --> 0:28:46.160
<v Speaker 2>he's looking old or something along those lines, and you

0:28:46.240 --> 0:28:49.120
<v Speaker 2>were like, hey, like that doesn't make me feel great,

0:28:49.160 --> 0:28:52.200
<v Speaker 2>which is completely understandable. I think that's really interesting. Is

0:28:52.240 --> 0:28:54.720
<v Speaker 2>that something that you hear often?

0:28:55.520 --> 0:28:59.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? So I find that, you know, it is a

0:28:59.680 --> 0:29:03.920
<v Speaker 1>very common question to people are curious how old is

0:29:03.960 --> 0:29:06.080
<v Speaker 1>your dog? You know, it's one thing with Doug, but

0:29:06.120 --> 0:29:10.280
<v Speaker 1>I think anyone that has an aging dog is going

0:29:10.320 --> 0:29:14.320
<v Speaker 1>to get these questions. And the issue isn't asking the question.

0:29:14.720 --> 0:29:19.160
<v Speaker 1>The issue is when the person or I in this case,

0:29:19.200 --> 0:29:24.120
<v Speaker 1>says how old he is, they make a visible reaction

0:29:24.840 --> 0:29:27.520
<v Speaker 1>that has no purpose other than to make you feel

0:29:27.600 --> 0:29:31.160
<v Speaker 1>bad and think of the worst. And so, you know,

0:29:31.200 --> 0:29:33.600
<v Speaker 1>that post was kind of just to like shed some

0:29:33.760 --> 0:29:37.120
<v Speaker 1>light on maybe, I don't know, changing the stigma around

0:29:38.320 --> 0:29:42.280
<v Speaker 1>how to react when someone asks or is told how

0:29:42.320 --> 0:29:45.040
<v Speaker 1>old their dog is. I mean, we don't need to

0:29:45.080 --> 0:29:51.760
<v Speaker 1>be reminded of that inevitable future. Ever, obviously it's a thing,

0:29:51.840 --> 0:29:54.560
<v Speaker 1>but like, I'm here to enjoy every single day, and

0:29:55.480 --> 0:29:58.280
<v Speaker 1>why don't we turn that into like, wow, he looks

0:29:58.320 --> 0:30:00.920
<v Speaker 1>so great or like good for you, like you must

0:30:00.920 --> 0:30:04.240
<v Speaker 1>be taking such great care of him, right, and instead

0:30:04.240 --> 0:30:08.400
<v Speaker 1>of oh gosh, like well mine blah blah blah, like nine,

0:30:08.560 --> 0:30:12.520
<v Speaker 1>like great, thanks, yeah, and it does happen. I mean, we,

0:30:12.800 --> 0:30:15.280
<v Speaker 1>you know, bring him out and about a lot, and

0:30:16.000 --> 0:30:19.480
<v Speaker 1>most people and his followers and fans, they don't care

0:30:19.760 --> 0:30:22.600
<v Speaker 1>about it at all. But it's usually people that are

0:30:22.640 --> 0:30:25.520
<v Speaker 1>like either skeptical of what we do or just kind

0:30:25.520 --> 0:30:27.239
<v Speaker 1>of want to make you feel bad. They're like they

0:30:27.800 --> 0:30:31.880
<v Speaker 1>they say that, and it never feels good. I kind

0:30:31.880 --> 0:30:35.320
<v Speaker 1>of made the reference earlier that, you know, when we

0:30:35.440 --> 0:30:39.840
<v Speaker 1>have an elderly human in our life, like a grandparent

0:30:40.120 --> 0:30:43.480
<v Speaker 1>or someone, and we ask how old they are and

0:30:43.640 --> 0:30:48.120
<v Speaker 1>you know, oh they're ninety five, we don't go oh no,

0:30:48.640 --> 0:30:52.560
<v Speaker 1>we go wow, that's amazing, what a long, beautiful life.

0:30:52.640 --> 0:30:55.760
<v Speaker 1>Like I hope they keep going, like keep going grandma

0:30:55.880 --> 0:30:59.200
<v Speaker 1>like hell yeah yeah, instead of like oh, like god,

0:30:59.240 --> 0:31:03.680
<v Speaker 1>my grandma died. Yeah, it's it's it doesn't it's not necessary.

0:31:03.880 --> 0:31:04.080
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:31:04.080 --> 0:31:05.360
<v Speaker 2>I think that's such a good point. It's something that

0:31:05.360 --> 0:31:07.800
<v Speaker 2>I hadn't really thought about, but I think it's so important,

0:31:07.800 --> 0:31:11.800
<v Speaker 2>like having we talk about this on the podcast Anticipatory Grief,

0:31:12.200 --> 0:31:16.200
<v Speaker 2>and a lot of my listeners really like felt that

0:31:16.240 --> 0:31:18.640
<v Speaker 2>they feel this a lot at home, and it's preparing

0:31:18.680 --> 0:31:21.200
<v Speaker 2>for your dogs passing, which of course you want to

0:31:21.200 --> 0:31:22.560
<v Speaker 2>live in the moment, but it's something that as a

0:31:22.600 --> 0:31:25.480
<v Speaker 2>dog owner you know your time is finite. It's something

0:31:25.480 --> 0:31:27.080
<v Speaker 2>that you think about and the last thing we need

0:31:27.160 --> 0:31:29.479
<v Speaker 2>is other people and outsiders like bringing it to our attention,

0:31:29.640 --> 0:31:32.400
<v Speaker 2>like let us just enjoy each day with them, right,

0:31:33.480 --> 0:31:35.120
<v Speaker 2>So I think that's a good like for us to

0:31:35.120 --> 0:31:38.160
<v Speaker 2>all be aware of when talking to other dog owners,

0:31:38.240 --> 0:31:39.479
<v Speaker 2>especially as senior pets.

0:31:39.520 --> 0:31:43.640
<v Speaker 1>I think, you know, chances are when you meet someone

0:31:43.920 --> 0:31:47.720
<v Speaker 1>who has their dog with them, they're obsessed with their dog,

0:31:47.840 --> 0:31:52.080
<v Speaker 1>like that's that's that's a family member, right, and only

0:31:52.200 --> 0:31:55.560
<v Speaker 1>positive things should be shared about a family member. You know,

0:31:55.760 --> 0:31:59.160
<v Speaker 1>if it were a child, they wouldn't be saying things

0:31:59.200 --> 0:32:03.080
<v Speaker 1>like that. And obviously dogs are not children, but to me,

0:32:03.240 --> 0:32:07.239
<v Speaker 1>my dogs are my children, so it does hurt and

0:32:07.280 --> 0:32:12.400
<v Speaker 1>it is taken personally. Yeah, but yeah, I just I

0:32:12.440 --> 0:32:16.080
<v Speaker 1>think everything should be positive and good vibes. Obviously that's

0:32:16.120 --> 0:32:19.120
<v Speaker 1>not the way work the world works. But when I

0:32:19.200 --> 0:32:22.000
<v Speaker 1>meet someone's dog, I always say good things.

0:32:22.040 --> 0:32:27.040
<v Speaker 2>Always on that note, dog looks amazing for his age,

0:32:27.120 --> 0:32:29.840
<v Speaker 2>thank you. The first thing I noticed as event I'm like, wow,

0:32:29.880 --> 0:32:32.440
<v Speaker 2>his weight is perfect. Yes, he looks amazing. Is there

0:32:32.480 --> 0:32:36.760
<v Speaker 2>anything you would attribute to how great he looks for twelve? Yeah,

0:32:36.920 --> 0:32:38.960
<v Speaker 2>So starting at a young age.

0:32:39.000 --> 0:32:41.959
<v Speaker 1>He actually had a very severe health scare when he

0:32:42.000 --> 0:32:47.120
<v Speaker 1>was younger. We gave him it was prescribed of pill

0:32:47.160 --> 0:32:49.840
<v Speaker 1>for his allergies, and he ended up having like a

0:32:49.960 --> 0:32:52.920
<v Speaker 1>very rare reaction to it, and his blood platelet levels

0:32:52.960 --> 0:32:57.200
<v Speaker 1>went life threateningly low. And at the time, oh my

0:32:57.200 --> 0:33:01.920
<v Speaker 1>gosh story. At the time, I had no idea about nutrition,

0:33:02.440 --> 0:33:05.479
<v Speaker 1>about you know, the products in my home. We hadn't

0:33:05.800 --> 0:33:09.360
<v Speaker 1>dealt with any health issues ourselves, and so that really

0:33:09.480 --> 0:33:12.160
<v Speaker 1>kind of woke us up to like, what what are

0:33:12.160 --> 0:33:15.240
<v Speaker 1>we doing that we could do better or more naturally

0:33:15.320 --> 0:33:18.600
<v Speaker 1>for Doug. And so we started using you know, more

0:33:18.680 --> 0:33:23.640
<v Speaker 1>natural ingredients and products, and honestly, him not being kibble

0:33:23.720 --> 0:33:26.680
<v Speaker 1>fed for us personally, has made the biggest change.

0:33:27.320 --> 0:33:30.040
<v Speaker 2>He looks amazing, Thank you, And I think there is

0:33:30.080 --> 0:33:31.720
<v Speaker 2>such a fine balance of you know, of course being

0:33:31.720 --> 0:33:35.200
<v Speaker 2>a veterinarian, we do practice Western medicine, but also like

0:33:35.240 --> 0:33:36.800
<v Speaker 2>incorporating Eastern and holistic.

0:33:37.920 --> 0:33:41.160
<v Speaker 1>It's not one. It's not all or nothing for either side.

0:33:41.160 --> 0:33:44.680
<v Speaker 1>It's just just balance. Yes, So we give Doug. We

0:33:44.760 --> 0:33:47.040
<v Speaker 1>give Doug as much balance as possible.

0:33:47.320 --> 0:33:50.360
<v Speaker 2>Yes, and sometimes less is more and going more holistic

0:33:50.440 --> 0:33:53.160
<v Speaker 2>route is you know, it can be really important. And

0:33:53.760 --> 0:33:55.400
<v Speaker 2>whatever you guys are doing, he looks amazing.

0:33:55.440 --> 0:33:57.160
<v Speaker 1>Thank you. Tory is such a hymn.

0:33:57.320 --> 0:34:01.440
<v Speaker 2>She's sleeping on her little noggins on you. So typically

0:34:01.480 --> 0:34:04.480
<v Speaker 2>on this podcast, we'll start with I'll have uh listeners

0:34:04.640 --> 0:34:07.240
<v Speaker 2>call in and ask questions and then I answer them. Today,

0:34:07.280 --> 0:34:08.960
<v Speaker 2>I figured we would do something a little different, and

0:34:09.040 --> 0:34:11.959
<v Speaker 2>I asked our listeners if they had any questions about Doug.

0:34:12.680 --> 0:34:13.000
<v Speaker 1>Perfect.

0:34:13.040 --> 0:34:15.319
<v Speaker 2>So I'm gonna ask you some questions that people are

0:34:15.400 --> 0:34:15.799
<v Speaker 2>dying to know.

0:34:15.920 --> 0:34:16.840
<v Speaker 1>Okay, I'm ready.

0:34:17.200 --> 0:34:19.880
<v Speaker 2>Does Doug have a morning or bedtime routine?

0:34:21.200 --> 0:34:26.600
<v Speaker 1>Morning routine is absolutely sleeping until I make him get

0:34:26.600 --> 0:34:31.960
<v Speaker 1>out of bed. And nighttime routine is going out with

0:34:32.000 --> 0:34:36.120
<v Speaker 1>me to put the chickens away. We have fourteen chickens. Oh, okay,

0:34:37.080 --> 0:34:39.000
<v Speaker 1>that is a newer thing. We've had them for a

0:34:39.000 --> 0:34:40.879
<v Speaker 1>little over a year and it's so fun. You guys

0:34:40.880 --> 0:34:43.959
<v Speaker 1>have a little zoo. I love it. I can keep going.

0:34:44.040 --> 0:34:48.480
<v Speaker 1>But Rob is like, nope, you're fourteen chickens is enough.

0:34:48.560 --> 0:34:52.080
<v Speaker 1>We all'll need to check the balance. He'll come out

0:34:52.120 --> 0:34:54.440
<v Speaker 1>with me and Dori will too, and well we'll get

0:34:54.440 --> 0:34:57.200
<v Speaker 1>the chickens out and then we'll like just get super

0:34:57.200 --> 0:35:00.200
<v Speaker 1>cozy and we're all about coziness them.

0:35:00.600 --> 0:35:01.840
<v Speaker 2>Do they sleep in bed with you guys?

0:35:01.880 --> 0:35:02.080
<v Speaker 3>Oh?

0:35:02.200 --> 0:35:03.839
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, okay, I figured as mussed.

0:35:03.960 --> 0:35:08.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, what is his favorite activity? Sounds like it might

0:35:08.239 --> 0:35:12.640
<v Speaker 2>be sleeping eating? Eating, eating, It's that's like the best.

0:35:12.360 --> 0:35:15.640
<v Speaker 1>Time of day for Doug's his favorite snack to eat?

0:35:16.160 --> 0:35:22.799
<v Speaker 1>Oh so he loves blueberries? Oh, he loves loves blueberries.

0:35:23.480 --> 0:35:27.520
<v Speaker 1>I give him these freeze dried minnows okay, and it's

0:35:27.600 --> 0:35:31.480
<v Speaker 1>just like good protein and he just he can chomp

0:35:31.520 --> 0:35:33.880
<v Speaker 1>them all up. What else?

0:35:34.719 --> 0:35:37.520
<v Speaker 2>Watermelon? Oh isn't it cute to watch them eat watermelon?

0:35:39.880 --> 0:35:41.760
<v Speaker 2>And he how many teeth does he have left?

0:35:41.840 --> 0:35:44.760
<v Speaker 1>Like? Is he he has a lot? On the top? Okay,

0:35:45.760 --> 0:35:49.480
<v Speaker 1>Robs holding up five? He is more than five the

0:35:49.520 --> 0:35:52.640
<v Speaker 1>bottom I means, you know, pugged. Oh yeah, more than it.

0:35:52.680 --> 0:35:55.640
<v Speaker 2>I definitely know it is a constant struggle. It is

0:35:55.920 --> 0:35:58.680
<v Speaker 2>so but enough that he can still chomp on his minnows.

0:35:59.120 --> 0:36:03.239
<v Speaker 2>That's all we need. And any birthday traditions that you

0:36:03.320 --> 0:36:03.839
<v Speaker 2>do with Doug.

0:36:05.280 --> 0:36:10.040
<v Speaker 1>We take birthdays very seriously with the dogs. Whoa, well,

0:36:10.040 --> 0:36:13.200
<v Speaker 1>we don't know Dory's birthday, Well we'll celebrate her gotcha day.

0:36:14.080 --> 0:36:16.400
<v Speaker 1>But Doug, we just like take him all over town

0:36:16.600 --> 0:36:19.040
<v Speaker 1>and give him a good day and he gets a

0:36:19.040 --> 0:36:23.200
<v Speaker 1>little cake and we're just like, you know, sing to him,

0:36:23.239 --> 0:36:25.320
<v Speaker 1>and yeah, he's very spoiled.

0:36:25.440 --> 0:36:29.120
<v Speaker 2>I had a pet psychic on previously and she had

0:36:29.160 --> 0:36:33.239
<v Speaker 2>mentioned that birthdays, that of all the pets that she

0:36:33.320 --> 0:36:36.040
<v Speaker 2>talks to, that they am getting their birthday celebrated as

0:36:36.080 --> 0:36:38.160
<v Speaker 2>one of their favorite things and that even though we

0:36:38.200 --> 0:36:39.959
<v Speaker 2>may feel like, oh my gosh, are we over the top,

0:36:40.520 --> 0:36:42.759
<v Speaker 2>do they really even know? Like they definitely know, and

0:36:42.800 --> 0:36:43.239
<v Speaker 2>they love it.

0:36:43.560 --> 0:36:43.840
<v Speaker 1>Doug.

0:36:43.920 --> 0:36:46.560
<v Speaker 2>He loves it, And I really I think they love him.

0:36:46.560 --> 0:36:48.440
<v Speaker 2>But I'm like, maybe I'm a crazy dog mom. But

0:36:48.480 --> 0:36:50.080
<v Speaker 2>that made me feel better to hear that she said that,

0:36:50.160 --> 0:36:53.880
<v Speaker 2>Oh I love that. Do you have a nickname that

0:36:53.920 --> 0:36:55.600
<v Speaker 2>you call him at home? I always think it's funny

0:36:55.600 --> 0:36:58.680
<v Speaker 2>how you'll see like how things can spiral a little

0:36:58.719 --> 0:36:59.600
<v Speaker 2>out of control.

0:37:00.440 --> 0:37:04.920
<v Speaker 1>I am yeah, it's pretty out of control. He's Yuga

0:37:05.000 --> 0:37:10.239
<v Speaker 1>bubbus bubs Coco no no Coco, no no, what am

0:37:10.239 --> 0:37:14.080
<v Speaker 1>I missing? Yeah, I mean.

0:37:16.239 --> 0:37:19.000
<v Speaker 2>The great bubb Zo, the great Busino.

0:37:19.840 --> 0:37:23.640
<v Speaker 1>Dorry is Dory NONI. Yeah, that's a good segue. So

0:37:25.040 --> 0:37:28.680
<v Speaker 1>my mom is Spanish and it's like a term of

0:37:28.800 --> 0:37:32.800
<v Speaker 1>endearment to say Nony. It's like oh, like no, no,

0:37:32.960 --> 0:37:36.160
<v Speaker 1>no ne. It's just like a sweet thing. And that's

0:37:36.200 --> 0:37:39.600
<v Speaker 1>why our holistic dog product company is called Nony Pup.

0:37:39.800 --> 0:37:41.640
<v Speaker 1>I love that. It's just it was just like I

0:37:41.680 --> 0:37:46.280
<v Speaker 1>would say no kamir noni and yeah that's stup.

0:37:46.400 --> 0:37:57.719
<v Speaker 2>I love that. It's a great name. All right, let's

0:37:57.719 --> 0:38:00.239
<v Speaker 2>see any with you being an artist, I guess both

0:38:00.239 --> 0:38:02.560
<v Speaker 2>of you artists. Any songs that you sing to them

0:38:02.600 --> 0:38:03.000
<v Speaker 2>at home?

0:38:03.719 --> 0:38:08.440
<v Speaker 1>Yes, actually, so a thing for me over the past

0:38:08.440 --> 0:38:11.520
<v Speaker 1>few years, which I never expected. I've been able to

0:38:11.560 --> 0:38:15.879
<v Speaker 1>blend like my music world and Doug and I wrote

0:38:15.920 --> 0:38:19.960
<v Speaker 1>him a song called Song for My Dog and it's

0:38:20.120 --> 0:38:24.600
<v Speaker 1>just a ukulele kind of a cappella ukulele song. And

0:38:24.960 --> 0:38:27.279
<v Speaker 1>it's cool because a lot of dog owners have really

0:38:27.320 --> 0:38:30.680
<v Speaker 1>resonated with it, and it's been used like six hundred

0:38:30.760 --> 0:38:34.880
<v Speaker 1>thousand times on TikTok or something gosh, and so like,

0:38:34.920 --> 0:38:37.560
<v Speaker 1>that's kind of the classic song because it just came

0:38:38.040 --> 0:38:41.360
<v Speaker 1>so easily. But I sing a lot to them. I

0:38:41.440 --> 0:38:42.799
<v Speaker 1>sing a lot to them.

0:38:43.200 --> 0:38:46.320
<v Speaker 2>That's so nice. You got to blend your two passions together.

0:38:46.480 --> 0:38:48.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's really fun. I love that.

0:38:49.400 --> 0:38:53.719
<v Speaker 2>Okay, one last thing before you guys go, we I

0:38:54.560 --> 0:38:56.919
<v Speaker 2>am on TikTok. And there's this new viral trend going

0:38:56.960 --> 0:39:00.840
<v Speaker 2>on of who's more likely to most people are playing

0:39:00.880 --> 0:39:03.560
<v Speaker 2>it with couples or friends. What I figure to be

0:39:03.600 --> 0:39:06.600
<v Speaker 2>fun to do with Doug and Dorry. I'm in okay,

0:39:06.680 --> 0:39:09.480
<v Speaker 2>So who is more likely to finish their food first?

0:39:09.800 --> 0:39:10.960
<v Speaker 1>Dory? Dory?

0:39:11.120 --> 0:39:14.120
<v Speaker 2>But she does to eat oh yeah, but he like

0:39:14.640 --> 0:39:15.279
<v Speaker 2>savors it a.

0:39:15.280 --> 0:39:19.239
<v Speaker 1>Little more than her. She's like, you're done, and yeah,

0:39:19.680 --> 0:39:22.600
<v Speaker 1>like should probably get her a slow fear. Did you

0:39:22.640 --> 0:39:23.279
<v Speaker 1>even enjoy that?

0:39:24.360 --> 0:39:26.880
<v Speaker 2>Who is more likely to wake you up from storing

0:39:26.960 --> 0:39:27.400
<v Speaker 2>so loud?

0:39:27.520 --> 0:39:28.760
<v Speaker 1>Dory? Okay?

0:39:29.920 --> 0:39:31.720
<v Speaker 2>Who's more likely to poop in the house?

0:39:32.040 --> 0:39:32.320
<v Speaker 3>Dorry.

0:39:33.120 --> 0:39:36.359
<v Speaker 1>We're working on that, to be fair. Doug. It's had

0:39:36.360 --> 0:39:38.960
<v Speaker 1>more time with the potty training. She's like I'm a risk.

0:39:39.400 --> 0:39:44.279
<v Speaker 2>Yes, who's more likely to hog the bed? Doug where

0:39:44.320 --> 0:39:45.279
<v Speaker 2>does he sleep in the bed?

0:39:46.320 --> 0:39:49.520
<v Speaker 1>So it's very cozy, Like as soon as I lay down,

0:39:49.600 --> 0:39:52.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, oh, I say, assumed a position, and he

0:39:52.800 --> 0:39:57.600
<v Speaker 1>comes and he like spin probably laughing through bark. He

0:39:57.760 --> 0:40:00.600
<v Speaker 1>like spins around and then he plops right in between

0:40:00.640 --> 0:40:03.120
<v Speaker 1>my legs and everyone knows that has a pug, Like

0:40:03.239 --> 0:40:06.239
<v Speaker 1>that's the thing, okay, But throughout the night he does

0:40:06.360 --> 0:40:09.040
<v Speaker 1>not move and it gets hot. Yeah, and so like

0:40:09.120 --> 0:40:11.040
<v Speaker 1>if I want to flip on my side, I have

0:40:11.120 --> 0:40:14.880
<v Speaker 1>to do this whole maneuver to not disturb him. Of course,

0:40:15.280 --> 0:40:17.200
<v Speaker 1>so he's the bedthog for sure.

0:40:17.360 --> 0:40:18.759
<v Speaker 2>It is funny like in the middle of the night,

0:40:18.760 --> 0:40:21.560
<v Speaker 2>I'll change positions and I'm like, I will not disturb

0:40:21.640 --> 0:40:24.680
<v Speaker 2>my dog. It can't happen like ORMI I saw hole

0:40:26.040 --> 0:40:29.000
<v Speaker 2>and they are hot although they're small, they're little space heaters.

0:40:29.480 --> 0:40:32.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. We have a whole like talk about bedtime routine.

0:40:32.560 --> 0:40:35.720
<v Speaker 1>It's like Dory starts the night with rob and dugs

0:40:35.760 --> 0:40:38.840
<v Speaker 1>in between my legs and then Fiona, our cat, the

0:40:38.880 --> 0:40:43.160
<v Speaker 1>white kiddie, she starts off sleeping on the corner of

0:40:43.200 --> 0:40:46.080
<v Speaker 1>the bed. But when I go to the bathroom in

0:40:46.120 --> 0:40:48.440
<v Speaker 1>the middle of the night. I have to flip on

0:40:48.480 --> 0:40:51.800
<v Speaker 1>my side and open my left arm to have a

0:40:51.840 --> 0:40:54.320
<v Speaker 1>little circle, and then Fiona will walk up to me

0:40:54.640 --> 0:40:57.680
<v Speaker 1>and lay in my arms a second only after I

0:40:57.719 --> 0:41:00.720
<v Speaker 1>go to the bathroom. It's just but it's like heaven,

0:41:00.840 --> 0:41:03.839
<v Speaker 1>you know, I wouldn't have it any other way, all right.

0:41:03.920 --> 0:41:06.600
<v Speaker 2>Who's more likely to ignore you when you say no?

0:41:07.440 --> 0:41:10.880
<v Speaker 1>Oh? Doug? He's very stubborn. Oh really, Yeah. When he's on,

0:41:11.120 --> 0:41:14.040
<v Speaker 1>he's on, like when he's like doing a commercial or

0:41:14.080 --> 0:41:17.320
<v Speaker 1>you know, we're doing a video shoot, he's like freaking amazing.

0:41:17.400 --> 0:41:20.960
<v Speaker 1>But you want him to heal on a walk? Good luck?

0:41:21.200 --> 0:41:22.520
<v Speaker 1>He's like, mom, do you know who I am? He

0:41:23.160 --> 0:41:26.800
<v Speaker 1>literally just wants to smell and pee? Okay.

0:41:28.239 --> 0:41:29.760
<v Speaker 2>Who's more likely to play fetch?

0:41:30.600 --> 0:41:32.160
<v Speaker 1>Dory? Just a fetcher.

0:41:32.640 --> 0:41:34.760
<v Speaker 2>Who's more likely to console you when you're sad?

0:41:36.040 --> 0:41:40.280
<v Speaker 1>Douggie and Dory. They're both kind of equal in that regard.

0:41:40.320 --> 0:41:43.560
<v Speaker 1>They do it in their own ways. Last, but not least.

0:41:43.560 --> 0:41:45.400
<v Speaker 2>Who's more likely to sneak a tree off the table

0:41:45.400 --> 0:41:46.200
<v Speaker 2>when you're not looking?

0:41:47.239 --> 0:41:52.320
<v Speaker 1>Doug? Yeah, he's I mean, he's like the food food monster.

0:41:53.200 --> 0:41:55.000
<v Speaker 2>He loves snacks, I have my little dog at home.

0:41:55.040 --> 0:41:58.040
<v Speaker 2>I like tell people that if I left him with

0:41:58.080 --> 0:42:00.360
<v Speaker 2>an endless a pie of food, he would eat himself, oh,

0:42:00.400 --> 0:42:01.200
<v Speaker 2>until he exploded.

0:42:01.280 --> 0:42:04.759
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think so. It's like doggy muck bangs, like

0:42:04.840 --> 0:42:07.760
<v Speaker 1>they trust they would. They would just eat until they can't.

0:42:08.480 --> 0:42:12.200
<v Speaker 2>I can't eat anymore. Oh, I hope we got that

0:42:13.440 --> 0:42:18.520
<v Speaker 2>Dory snoring so loud. She's like, I'll show them amazing. Well,

0:42:18.680 --> 0:42:20.680
<v Speaker 2>thank you guys so much for coming on. It was

0:42:20.719 --> 0:42:23.759
<v Speaker 2>so nice to finally meet you guys in person. You're

0:42:23.840 --> 0:42:26.719
<v Speaker 2>so welcome. I love Doug so much. And if you

0:42:26.719 --> 0:42:29.760
<v Speaker 2>guys aren't following Doug already, you're crazy and you must.

0:42:30.480 --> 0:42:32.400
<v Speaker 2>His handle is it's jug the Pug.

0:42:33.040 --> 0:42:33.919
<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much.

0:42:33.960 --> 0:42:41.200
<v Speaker 2>You're welcome. That was such a great interview. I loved

0:42:41.200 --> 0:42:43.120
<v Speaker 2>having Doug and his sister Dory here.

0:42:43.480 --> 0:42:44.520
<v Speaker 3>They were so cute.

0:42:44.719 --> 0:42:46.879
<v Speaker 2>They were so cute, and all of you listeners out there,

0:42:46.880 --> 0:42:50.319
<v Speaker 2>if you were hearing snorts and snores and farts and

0:42:50.360 --> 0:42:53.200
<v Speaker 2>all the things, that was them really enjoying it.

0:42:53.280 --> 0:42:55.880
<v Speaker 3>We definitely picked up a lot of their their sounds,

0:42:55.880 --> 0:42:56.920
<v Speaker 3>but they were adorable.

0:42:57.080 --> 0:42:58.080
<v Speaker 1>That's just pug life.

0:42:58.440 --> 0:43:01.160
<v Speaker 2>Yes, you get the sounds and they're so cute, and

0:43:01.280 --> 0:43:04.520
<v Speaker 2>Doug was sleeping most of the time. I think this

0:43:04.840 --> 0:43:07.600
<v Speaker 2>studio has the effect of like putting dogs to sleep.

0:43:07.840 --> 0:43:09.880
<v Speaker 3>You know what, I've noticed, ever since you had that

0:43:09.960 --> 0:43:13.960
<v Speaker 3>pet psychic on, all the animals are so chill when

0:43:13.960 --> 0:43:16.080
<v Speaker 3>they're in this space. I don't know what she did, and.

0:43:16.400 --> 0:43:18.880
<v Speaker 2>She said she did some reiki on Saya, so maybe

0:43:18.920 --> 0:43:19.719
<v Speaker 2>she like left her.

0:43:19.880 --> 0:43:21.480
<v Speaker 1>I think call me energy.

0:43:21.200 --> 0:43:24.160
<v Speaker 3>Because Doug was so active before he got up here.

0:43:24.239 --> 0:43:26.239
<v Speaker 3>In the second he sat down.

0:43:26.200 --> 0:43:29.319
<v Speaker 1>He was like night night, good night, good night. I

0:43:29.320 --> 0:43:29.799
<v Speaker 1>loved him.

0:43:29.800 --> 0:43:31.440
<v Speaker 2>God, he was able to take a little snooze.

0:43:31.600 --> 0:43:33.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, exactly.

0:43:35.280 --> 0:43:39.520
<v Speaker 2>All right, Well we'll jump right into our paw and order,

0:43:44.239 --> 0:43:46.279
<v Speaker 2>all right, in honor of Doug the Pug, I made

0:43:46.280 --> 0:43:50.880
<v Speaker 2>this paw and order addition for breaky cephalic breeds. Those

0:43:50.920 --> 0:43:53.759
<v Speaker 2>are gonna be our smushed face breeds, like our Frenchies,

0:43:54.520 --> 0:43:59.080
<v Speaker 2>Pugs of course, English bulldogs, Boston Terriers, Boxers, shitsus which

0:43:59.120 --> 0:43:59.919
<v Speaker 2>Morgan has one.

0:43:59.880 --> 0:44:02.439
<v Speaker 3>Up of sure do, and she snores a lot.

0:44:02.600 --> 0:44:05.200
<v Speaker 2>They are little snores and they are so stinking cute.

0:44:05.200 --> 0:44:06.920
<v Speaker 2>And I know I've talked about this one hundred times,

0:44:06.920 --> 0:44:10.279
<v Speaker 2>but they just cannot breathe as well as dogs with

0:44:10.320 --> 0:44:15.480
<v Speaker 2>long snouts can so any dog can overheat, but rereaky

0:44:15.520 --> 0:44:18.880
<v Speaker 2>cephalic dogs are way more likely to overheat. So on

0:44:19.040 --> 0:44:22.400
<v Speaker 2>days where it's over eighty degrees, if it's super humid outside,

0:44:22.480 --> 0:44:25.680
<v Speaker 2>I highly recommend not going outside for long, long periods

0:44:25.680 --> 0:44:28.319
<v Speaker 2>of time. If you have to go outside, like let's

0:44:28.320 --> 0:44:30.319
<v Speaker 2>say you're on a patio or you're hanging out, make

0:44:30.360 --> 0:44:32.760
<v Speaker 2>sure they have access to shade and plenty of water.

0:44:33.320 --> 0:44:35.920
<v Speaker 2>I would avoid long walks. Don't play fetch. It can

0:44:35.920 --> 0:44:40.000
<v Speaker 2>go from like a really fun afternoon where everything seems

0:44:40.080 --> 0:44:43.040
<v Speaker 2>hunky dory, and then to all of a sudden, they're

0:44:43.080 --> 0:44:45.880
<v Speaker 2>not able to regulate their body temperature. They're overheating, and

0:44:45.960 --> 0:44:47.799
<v Speaker 2>it's a life threatening emergency.

0:44:48.080 --> 0:44:51.200
<v Speaker 3>I've been able to tell this recently with my shit too.

0:44:51.320 --> 0:44:54.480
<v Speaker 3>Andy will go on walks around my apartment and we

0:44:54.560 --> 0:44:58.319
<v Speaker 3>make it maybe halfway around my apartment building, just my building, right,

0:44:58.560 --> 0:45:00.479
<v Speaker 3>and I'm like, okay, I'm picking you up and we're

0:45:00.600 --> 0:45:02.080
<v Speaker 3>going back now, and.

0:45:02.080 --> 0:45:03.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna get you a stroller.

0:45:03.200 --> 0:45:03.399
<v Speaker 3>Yep.

0:45:03.960 --> 0:45:06.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's crazy. I mean, and they won't. I mean,

0:45:06.200 --> 0:45:08.680
<v Speaker 2>they'll be usually the young ones too. They're tails wagging,

0:45:08.680 --> 0:45:10.600
<v Speaker 2>they're bouncing around. Oh I'm super happy, and then all

0:45:10.640 --> 0:45:13.160
<v Speaker 2>of a sudden they become too hot. They can't sweat

0:45:13.160 --> 0:45:13.719
<v Speaker 2>like we can.

0:45:14.640 --> 0:45:17.400
<v Speaker 3>Andy immediately comes in the house and she just lays

0:45:17.640 --> 0:45:21.360
<v Speaker 3>flat out Superman pretty much and just has the cool

0:45:22.000 --> 0:45:24.040
<v Speaker 3>floor on her stomach and then seems to get it

0:45:24.080 --> 0:45:26.200
<v Speaker 3>back together. But yeah, it's worrisome.

0:45:26.480 --> 0:45:29.360
<v Speaker 2>It is worrisome, and it's better to just be preventative

0:45:29.480 --> 0:45:31.759
<v Speaker 2>and keep a really close eye on it and just

0:45:31.840 --> 0:45:33.680
<v Speaker 2>know if it's hot out, if you're laying your hand

0:45:33.760 --> 0:45:36.920
<v Speaker 2>on the concrete or cement and you know it feels

0:45:37.000 --> 0:45:39.200
<v Speaker 2>very warm to you, that's what their paws are touching,

0:45:39.239 --> 0:45:41.359
<v Speaker 2>that's what their bellies touching when they're laying down, and

0:45:41.480 --> 0:45:43.480
<v Speaker 2>that's a recipe for them to overheat pretty quickly.

0:45:43.640 --> 0:45:46.000
<v Speaker 3>Is there a sign when it's like, okay, they're not

0:45:46.080 --> 0:45:48.560
<v Speaker 3>cooling themselves down, maybe I should take them into the vet.

0:45:49.200 --> 0:45:51.160
<v Speaker 2>If they're a respiratory rate like let's say you were

0:45:51.160 --> 0:45:53.760
<v Speaker 2>outside and now you're back inside and you've been inside

0:45:53.760 --> 0:45:55.440
<v Speaker 2>for a couple of minutes and their respiratory rate is

0:45:55.480 --> 0:46:00.239
<v Speaker 2>still really high. They're panting, they're you know, drooling from

0:46:00.280 --> 0:46:02.320
<v Speaker 2>the mouth a lot of times. Their gum color or

0:46:02.360 --> 0:46:04.960
<v Speaker 2>their tongue color will change. So if you see any

0:46:05.040 --> 0:46:09.080
<v Speaker 2>like purplish color, if it's not that like bright healthy pink,

0:46:09.440 --> 0:46:12.920
<v Speaker 2>that's like no boin, no sos, emergency, go to the

0:46:12.920 --> 0:46:13.759
<v Speaker 2>hospital right away.

0:46:13.920 --> 0:46:16.319
<v Speaker 3>Got it is that button still right over there, the

0:46:16.360 --> 0:46:20.279
<v Speaker 3>one on the board. Yeah, okay, just checking.

0:46:20.040 --> 0:46:22.600
<v Speaker 2>Producing and producer, Morgan.

0:46:22.920 --> 0:46:24.239
<v Speaker 3>You just want to make sure you're glad to hear

0:46:24.400 --> 0:46:25.239
<v Speaker 3>capturing this, you.

0:46:25.280 --> 0:46:28.600
<v Speaker 1>Know, Yeah, this is very important information, all right.

0:46:28.719 --> 0:46:31.160
<v Speaker 2>Number two, if you are planning to own a break

0:46:31.200 --> 0:46:36.000
<v Speaker 2>ecephalic breed, then be prepared to wipe. My friends, there's

0:46:36.000 --> 0:46:37.240
<v Speaker 2>a lot of wiping involved.

0:46:37.520 --> 0:46:37.759
<v Speaker 1>Wipe.

0:46:38.880 --> 0:46:43.000
<v Speaker 2>You have to wipe those nasal folds, those cute little

0:46:43.160 --> 0:46:46.200
<v Speaker 2>wrinkles and folds all around their nose and their eyes

0:46:46.520 --> 0:46:50.480
<v Speaker 2>are adorable, but they fill up with gunk. They get infected,

0:46:51.200 --> 0:46:53.320
<v Speaker 2>and you want to start wiping from day one. You

0:46:53.360 --> 0:46:54.800
<v Speaker 2>want to get them used to it as a puppy.

0:46:55.719 --> 0:46:58.000
<v Speaker 2>And Morgan's like, I have never done this in my life.

0:46:58.280 --> 0:46:59.720
<v Speaker 3>Once in my life have I wiped.

0:47:01.000 --> 0:47:03.399
<v Speaker 2>I will say shitzuos, although they're breakie saphalac, they tend

0:47:03.440 --> 0:47:05.919
<v Speaker 2>to have less folds than like a frenchie or a pug.

0:47:06.040 --> 0:47:08.120
<v Speaker 2>Like they really I mean as you saw with Doug

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<v Speaker 2>and Dory, like they have some pretty thick nasal folds.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think Andy's a little better off.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, maybe some less folds. So you're not don worry.

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<v Speaker 2>We're not owner shaming you, I feel it.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh so yeah, be prepared to wipe. You got to

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<v Speaker 2>like open those folds up, get in there with your wipes,

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<v Speaker 2>and really really clean them out. Unscented baby wipes are best,

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<v Speaker 2>but if they are getting infected, if they're red, if

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<v Speaker 2>they're stinky, you probably want to talk to your vet

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<v Speaker 2>and get some medicated wipes.

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<v Speaker 3>Imagine someone just tunes in the podcast like right here

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<v Speaker 3>at this moment, and you're like, open those folds, get

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<v Speaker 3>in there, white, get on, and then in there. Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>And on that note, a lot of them have quirkscrew tails,

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<v Speaker 2>like our bulldogs are Bostons, and those have a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of folds around them too, So you want to clean

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<v Speaker 2>out those little butt folds around their tails too.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my gosh, such high maintenance.

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<v Speaker 2>It is not a glamorous job, but someone's got to

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<v Speaker 2>do it and it's important. So just start your wipe

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<v Speaker 2>fund right now. If you're going to own a break

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<v Speaker 2>eecephalic breed.

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<v Speaker 3>And get in those folds, y'all.

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<v Speaker 2>Get in those folds all right, last, but not least

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<v Speaker 2>if they are coughing or sneezing excessively. Obviously a sneeze

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<v Speaker 2>here and there is not the end of the world.

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<v Speaker 2>But if you're like, hey, my dog's sneezing a lot,

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<v Speaker 2>there's not coming out of its nose, take it to

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<v Speaker 2>the vet right away. Any sign of a respiratory infection,

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<v Speaker 2>and these pets that already can't really oxygenate that well

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<v Speaker 2>should be taken really seriously. Sometimes our dogs that have

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<v Speaker 2>a mile cough, we can give them a day or

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<v Speaker 2>so see if they can clear it on their own,

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<v Speaker 2>just like when you and I get a cold. But

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<v Speaker 2>with a break acephalic, it's like nope, red flag, straight

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<v Speaker 2>to the vet.

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<v Speaker 3>I've been lucky there too. Andy hasn't done a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of that. She had a little reverse sneezing spell for

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<v Speaker 3>a few weeks and then that went away.

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<v Speaker 1>M hm.

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<v Speaker 3>And we've been smooth sailing since.

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to do a whole thing on reverse sneezing

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<v Speaker 2>for our listeners out there. I've had so many people

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<v Speaker 2>ask me about this, so we will get to that,

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<v Speaker 2>but yes, you are very lucky and that you haven't

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<v Speaker 2>had that issue. Yeah, coughing is Coughing is no bueno,

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<v Speaker 2>especially in our breaky syphlex So that's it. That's our

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<v Speaker 2>last poll in order of the day. It was such

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<v Speaker 2>a great episode. Loved having Doug here, Love having Morgan,

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<v Speaker 2>producer Morgan President Morgan here. Oh my gosh, the president

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<v Speaker 2>of the Nashville Podcast Network.

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<v Speaker 3>Join more often. This has been a lot of fun

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<v Speaker 3>and I feel like I can just use you to

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<v Speaker 3>ask all my questions.

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<v Speaker 2>I think. So this is your first appearance, but it

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<v Speaker 2>won't be your last day.

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<v Speaker 3>Awesome.

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<v Speaker 2>And for all the listeners out there, if you have

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<v Speaker 2>any questions, you can always DM me on Instagram at

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