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Speaker 1: You're listening to in the Vets Office with doctor Josie Horschak.

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Speaker 2: All right, welcome to in the Vets Office. I am

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Speaker 2: your host, Doctor Josie, and I am so excited about

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Speaker 2: this week's episode. We have the infamous og social media sensation,

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Speaker 2: Doug the Pug coming on. He I'm pretty sure is

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Speaker 2: the most followed dog in the world, and we have

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Speaker 2: produced a Morgan here today.

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Speaker 3: Hello. Not nearest important as Doug the Pug.

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Speaker 2: Doug the Pug takes the cake, but you're a pretty

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Speaker 2: close second.

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Speaker 3: Glad to be here.

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Speaker 2: So before we jump into our interview with Doug, we

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Speaker 2: are going to do our case of the week. So

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Speaker 2: this case happened back when I was living in downtown Chicago.

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Speaker 2: I was a fairly young veterinarian. It was just another

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Speaker 2: boring day in the office when all of a sudden,

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Speaker 2: this young man comes in very shaken up, in shambles.

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Speaker 2: He had been out on his patio drinking his morning coffee,

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Speaker 2: reading his newspaper, and all of a sudden a cat

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Speaker 2: came falling out of the sky, Oh my god, and

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Speaker 2: onto the table of his patio. This cat lived twelve

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Speaker 2: stories above him, and his owner had often let him

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Speaker 2: out onto the balcony. He would just kind of sunbathe

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Speaker 2: and hang. But on this day a bird flew by

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Speaker 2: going to go catch that bird. So he jumped up

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Speaker 2: onto the railing, made the leap of faith, and gravity

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Speaker 2: man's patio.

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Speaker 1: Did this cat live?

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Speaker 2: This cat lived, So when they say cats have nine lives,

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Speaker 2: they truly mean it. The things that cats indoor and

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Speaker 2: then come out on the other side is amazing. This

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Speaker 2: is just one of the examples. The cat came in.

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Speaker 2: It was in shock. It had a broken jaw, a

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Speaker 2: broken leg.

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Speaker 3: Very when you say it's in shock, what is an

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Speaker 3: animal in shock?

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Speaker 2: Look like being in shock is a medical term meeting

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Speaker 2: like your blood pressure is affected, your heart rates affected,

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Speaker 2: you're dehydrated. So usually they have like really pale gums,

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Speaker 2: their heart rate can be through the roof, their blood

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Speaker 2: pressure is low. So he kind of checked all those boxes.

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Speaker 3: Do you immediately look at this cat and go hmmm,

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Speaker 3: oh it's aron great, or he's got a fighting chance.

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Speaker 2: This is uh yeah. I was like, this is probably

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Speaker 2: not going to end up well. But you never know

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Speaker 2: it's a cat. I'm telling you, they are survivors. Survivors.

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Speaker 2: So the owner wasn't there. So the guy you know,

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Speaker 2: brings the cat, comes running to the clinic. He was

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Speaker 2: only just a couple high rises away.

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Speaker 3: Good on him for bringing the cat that wasn't his

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Speaker 3: into the office.

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Speaker 2: Yes, he puts that bill And funny enough, the cat

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Speaker 2: was one of our patients. So he just happened to

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Speaker 2: bring it to the right clinic odds. And we immediately

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Speaker 2: start stabilizing it and taking X rays and doing all

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Speaker 2: the things, giving it oxygen and fluids and doing life

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Speaker 2: saving procedures on it. And and somehow the owner, I

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Speaker 2: can't remember if he got a hold of the owner,

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Speaker 2: but the owner finds out, she comes in and we

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Speaker 2: were able to you know, he had to have surgery

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Speaker 2: his life.

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Speaker 3: First off, claps for doctor Josie and I don't want

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Speaker 3: to pet parents. Shame. But the owner wasn't home and

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Speaker 3: they let their cat on the balcony.

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Speaker 2: The owner was home, but it's like you leave your

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Speaker 2: do this in the city. We saw this all the time.

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Speaker 2: In Chicago, where you leave the balcony open, pets come

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Speaker 1: But that one percent do you.

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Speaker 3: Go home that day and just feel like you really

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Speaker 3: rock that shit?

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Speaker 2: I go home that day and I'm like, oh my gosh,

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Speaker 3: I bet it took that man a few weeks to

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Speaker 3: Talk about the PTSD.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, you're getting the therapists after this. So now I was, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I was a reminder for me, if you're sending your

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Speaker 2: very very close eye on them. And uh, I guess

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Speaker 2: if you're sitting on the tenth floor. Maybe we're a helmet.

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Speaker 1: Be careful.

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Speaker 3: Oh man, that's a really great pace of the week.

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Speaker 2: It was, And now we'll just dive right into our

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Speaker 2: our interview. So, as I said, we have Doug the

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Speaker 2: Pug coming on and his sister Dory. She's a new

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Speaker 2: who will be answering the questions for him. Doug is,

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Speaker 2: as you know, the og social media pet sensation.

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Speaker 1: He has paved the way for.

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Speaker 2: The likes of like Mispeaches and all of these you

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Speaker 2: know pets that we've come to know and love on

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Speaker 2: his social media platforms and he is probably the most

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Speaker 3: So it's more successful than we'll probably ever be.

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Speaker 1: Oh he is more. We will never come a tenth

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Speaker 1: of us clothes. That's the successful bug walked.

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Speaker 2: So Alex Earl could run exactly exactly, and that's the

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Speaker 2: perfect segue. We're gonna take a quick break and when

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Speaker 2: we get back, we'll have Doug here.

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Speaker 3: Awesome all right.

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Speaker 2: In the Vets office, we have Doug the Pug, who's

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Speaker 2: here today with his mom, Leslie, and his baby sister Dorry.

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Speaker 2: I'm so excited to have you guys.

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Speaker 1: Story's podcast debut. Oh my gosh.

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Speaker 2: I mean, Doug is a he is a veteran in this,

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Speaker 2: He's like, I'm over it. But Dory's here. She is

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Speaker 1: She's so we're probably gonna hear a lot of snores today.

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Speaker 1: Doug is like in total chill mode next to me,

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Speaker 1: and Dorry is all about this.

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Speaker 2: She's at attention, She's ready to go. Well, welcome. I'm

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Speaker 2: so excited to have you here. I have been following

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Speaker 2: probably like one of the most famous dogs in the world.

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Speaker 2: But when I was researching today's interview, I didn't realize

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Speaker 2: won two People's Choice Awards. He starred in a Super

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Speaker 2: for Katie Perry, Dncee, and Fallout Boy. He has been

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Speaker 2: kissed by the one and only Justin Bieber, and the

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Speaker 2: as the Doug the Pug Day in the city.

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Speaker 1: That's wild. It's wild, I mean that is crazy. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: It's been a very fun and insane ride that never

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Speaker 1: ceases to blow our mind. Sometimes I wake up in

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Speaker 2: Like, Yeah, can you just to kind of like rewind

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Speaker 2: all the way back to the beginning?

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Speaker 1: How did this all come to me? So? I used

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Speaker 1: I went to Belmont and that's what moved me to Nashville.

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Speaker 1: And I had dreams of working in the music industry

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Speaker 1: And I got Doug when I was a junior at Belmont,

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Speaker 1: And I would post him and say, Doug the pug

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Speaker 1: say that. At that time, I saw it being something

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Speaker 1: quit my job. Wow, and people thought I was crazy.

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Speaker 1: on Instagram, and I think he would make a really cute,

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Speaker 1: stuffy animal. But it happened as soon as I put

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Speaker 1: my notice in for that job. At that one hundred

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Speaker 1: thousand party, we had a pug balloon left over, and

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Speaker 1: Rob and I were just dating at the time, and

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Speaker 1: he was on tour and so all by myself, I

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Speaker 1: went to Dragon Park in Hillsborough Village, which was right

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Speaker 1: by my old apartment, and I tied the pug balloon

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Speaker 1: he was all about it. He was running around the

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Speaker 1: sent the footage to Rob and I said, can you

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Speaker 1: put a cute song over this? Can you put like people?

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Speaker 1: Let me tell you about my best friend, Like, let's

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Speaker 1: make the pug balloon his best friend. And I posted

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Speaker 1: it to Doug's Facebook, his Instagram, and then I made

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Speaker 2: Has jumped off of my chair and now she's like,

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Speaker 2: I think that. You know, it's so interesting when owners

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Speaker 2: And so I think there's such a It's I know

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Speaker 2: birthed them. I joke that I've birthed my dogs, and

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Speaker 2: I get one hundred percent what you're saying, like how

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Speaker 2: He probably would not have, you know, had the long

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Speaker 1: So that's good.

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Speaker 2: Any crazy dms that he's gotten on Instagram, are they

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Speaker 1: offered to purchase him, to purchase him, yes, feel like

437
00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:35,919
Speaker 1: there's not a price chat and it's it's kind of

438
00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:38,440
Speaker 1: insane to see.

439
00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:41,600
Speaker 2: That's really crazy to me. It's very are they going

440
00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:42,720
Speaker 2: out numbers.

441
00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:44,600
Speaker 1: It's very strange or like there's a lot of people

442
00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:47,639
Speaker 1: that think that. It's like almost like they live in

443
00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:50,840
Speaker 1: our house. It's like they know all these things. I'm like,

444
00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:53,320
Speaker 1: how do you know that? Like I've never even posted that.

445
00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:57,159
Speaker 1: It's mostly like people just loving them and being sweet.

446
00:22:57,200 --> 00:23:01,439
Speaker 1: I think again, the crazy part is like when someone

447
00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:03,760
Speaker 1: shows up in our dms that's like from our past,

448
00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:08,000
Speaker 1: like when I was young, you know, Backstreet Boys, biggest deal.

449
00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:11,159
Speaker 1: Like still, I'll listen to it and it brings me

450
00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:14,080
Speaker 1: right back. And then Nick Carter's just like, hey, can

451
00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:16,359
Speaker 1: Doug come? I want to hang out with him before

452
00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:18,520
Speaker 1: the show? Can we make a video? And it's it's

453
00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:22,479
Speaker 1: just very wild to get a message like that, and

454
00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:25,200
Speaker 1: then you realize that it really was him. It wasn't

455
00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:30,040
Speaker 1: like his agent or manager or something. Right. Oh, Dory's

456
00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:31,480
Speaker 1: arm is literally around Doug.

457
00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:34,800
Speaker 2: This is a perfect segue because I was gonna ask.

458
00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:38,080
Speaker 2: I know, Dory is a new addition to the family. She,

459
00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:41,320
Speaker 2: from what I have seen, was rescued. I'm really interested

460
00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:43,880
Speaker 2: in how she came into your family. How is Doug

461
00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:45,080
Speaker 2: feeling about having a sister.

462
00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:50,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, so we had talked about getting Doug a sibling

463
00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:53,119
Speaker 1: for quite some time, and we didn't know what it

464
00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:57,080
Speaker 1: would look like. I knew that I wanted to rescue,

465
00:23:57,160 --> 00:24:01,879
Speaker 1: and I followed a ton of Hug rescues and was

466
00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:04,520
Speaker 1: just like, Okay, I'm going to leave it up to

467
00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:07,240
Speaker 1: the powers that be and if I see a dog

468
00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:10,919
Speaker 1: that I know, when I the moment I see the photo,

469
00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:13,760
Speaker 1: I know that's our dog. We'll pursue it, we'll figure

470
00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:16,000
Speaker 1: it out. I've just got to let it go and

471
00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:20,399
Speaker 1: see what happens. And it was a crazy kind of

472
00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:24,920
Speaker 1: six seven, eight months of waiting. So not to get

473
00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:28,360
Speaker 1: too heavy on here, but Rob, Doug's dad, my husband,

474
00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:32,800
Speaker 1: was diagnosed with MS almost a year ago, and so

475
00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:36,399
Speaker 1: our decision to add another dog into the family was

476
00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:39,840
Speaker 1: partly as a therapy dog for him, you know, Doug

477
00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:42,639
Speaker 1: and I obviously Doug is obsessed with Rob, but he

478
00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:45,879
Speaker 1: is like very attached to me. Like if I'm sitting,

479
00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:48,560
Speaker 1: he's next to me. If I'm laying, he's laying next

480
00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:50,680
Speaker 1: to me. And we were like Rob needs like his

481
00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:55,680
Speaker 1: you know, his soul dog. And he was actually in

482
00:24:55,840 --> 00:25:00,479
Speaker 1: his one year MRI or no six month MRI something.

483
00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:03,520
Speaker 1: It was a very important scan and so I'm like

484
00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:06,960
Speaker 1: in the back room at Vanderbilt Hospital, he's in there.

485
00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:10,240
Speaker 1: I'm like doom scrolling, you know, like the dog Doug

486
00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:12,400
Speaker 1: was not with me. I'm just kind of all alone.

487
00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:15,480
Speaker 1: And then I see one of those rescues that I followed,

488
00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:18,159
Speaker 1: like posted a graphic and there were three pugs on it.

489
00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:22,200
Speaker 1: Very small picture, but one of them caught my eye

490
00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:24,920
Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh my gosh, she looks like Doug.

491
00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:28,159
Speaker 1: Like that's crazy, because Doug, you know how it is

492
00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:30,679
Speaker 1: with your dogs. It's rare to see another dog that

493
00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:32,760
Speaker 1: like really looks like your dog. But when you do,

494
00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:38,320
Speaker 1: it's like whoa. And that happened, and so like I

495
00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:44,400
Speaker 1: start messaging the rescue, and before I knew it, Rob

496
00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:46,679
Speaker 1: woke up. It was a you know, tough tough night

497
00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:49,679
Speaker 1: for him. He had to take some medication to calm

498
00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:52,080
Speaker 1: down in the MRI, so he was conked out when

499
00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:54,840
Speaker 1: we got home and fell asleep at nine pm. But

500
00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:59,680
Speaker 1: here I am messaging the foster the rescue all night

501
00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:01,960
Speaker 1: I could, and I did not sleep one minute because

502
00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:03,800
Speaker 1: I was like, I just think I found our dog.

503
00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:06,840
Speaker 1: And so Rob woke up and I'm like, Hi, like,

504
00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:10,439
Speaker 1: hope you feel good, but what do you think?

505
00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:11,120
Speaker 3: Yeah?

506
00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:15,399
Speaker 1: And he was like, let's do it. Ending Within a

507
00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:19,520
Speaker 1: few days, she the rescue was amazing enough to fly

508
00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:22,520
Speaker 1: her to Nashville from California. We got her from Tiny

509
00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:26,960
Speaker 1: Paws Plug Rescue. They're an amazing organization. And she was

510
00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:31,280
Speaker 1: actually found abandoned in a field, because who would ever

511
00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:35,520
Speaker 1: do that to any animal? But she was found and

512
00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:38,320
Speaker 1: she stayed with an amazing foster for about a month.

513
00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:43,359
Speaker 1: And now she is the second love of our life,

514
00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:45,399
Speaker 1: actually the fourth love of our life because we have

515
00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:46,240
Speaker 1: two cats.

516
00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:46,480
Speaker 3: That we love.

517
00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:49,439
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, how I mean it seems like they

518
00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:51,600
Speaker 2: get along great. Was Doug at first like, whoaa, I'm

519
00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:52,960
Speaker 2: an only child, our only dog?

520
00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:56,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean there's there's always an adjustment period, you know,

521
00:26:57,160 --> 00:27:02,000
Speaker 1: but he he like totally accepts her and they do

522
00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:06,640
Speaker 1: really cute things together. And do they clean each other? No,

523
00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:09,240
Speaker 1: oh sometimes Doug has done that before. We got it

524
00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:11,280
Speaker 1: on video, so he did it once and I was like,

525
00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:13,280
Speaker 1: maybe this will be a thing. Yeah, hasn't been anything,

526
00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:17,600
Speaker 1: but yeah, they he's he's been doing so great. We're

527
00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:20,919
Speaker 1: really really proud of him. And she just adores him, like,

528
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:25,480
Speaker 1: oh she obviously she can't get enough of him.

529
00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:29,560
Speaker 2: And do you feel like it's worked out? Because I

530
00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:32,240
Speaker 2: have found that in our little family at home that

531
00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:35,240
Speaker 2: our girl dog loves my husband. Of course she loves me,

532
00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:37,040
Speaker 2: but she really loves my husband and the boy dogs

533
00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:37,600
Speaker 2: really love me.

534
00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:41,240
Speaker 1: It's exactly that, I mean crazy. That's why it's so

535
00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:44,480
Speaker 1: amazing that it worked out this way, because we knew

536
00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:47,680
Speaker 1: Rob needed his own dog. I mean, obviously dor is

537
00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:51,280
Speaker 1: mine too, but of course she is like daddy's girl,

538
00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:56,040
Speaker 1: like so cleany. She always has to be with Daddy.

539
00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:59,680
Speaker 2: It's so cute. It's so special. It's nice because we

540
00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:01,840
Speaker 2: had similar where it was like, Okay, the dogs all

541
00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:03,880
Speaker 2: love their mom and my husband's like I love them

542
00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:06,000
Speaker 2: so much, but like they really love you, and so

543
00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:07,879
Speaker 2: it's nice when they have their own sort of like

544
00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:11,240
Speaker 2: you said, their own dog. Yeah, it's so special story.

545
00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:13,800
Speaker 2: You're so cute. He might be the start of the show.

546
00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:17,400
Speaker 1: Tory Doug is like, I'm going to use any opportunity

547
00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:19,800
Speaker 1: to that, but I like, I'm going to sleep. Uh.

548
00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:22,840
Speaker 2: One thing, this is sort of switching topics, but one

549
00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:25,520
Speaker 2: of the things that you had talked about on your

550
00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:28,920
Speaker 2: Instagram that I had never heard anybody verbalized. I guess

551
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:31,199
Speaker 2: I subconsciously have thought about it, but I thought it

552
00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:34,720
Speaker 2: was really interesting that you brought up was and I

553
00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:36,800
Speaker 2: don't know exactly how it way. I'm kind of paraphrasing here,

554
00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:38,320
Speaker 2: but you had gone to the park or you were

555
00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:40,320
Speaker 2: out and about and someone had saw a Doug and

556
00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:42,360
Speaker 2: they were like, oh wow, it's not like he's looking wow,

557
00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:46,160
Speaker 2: he's looking old or something along those lines, and you

558
00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:49,120
Speaker 2: were like, hey, like that doesn't make me feel great,

559
00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:52,200
Speaker 2: which is completely understandable. I think that's really interesting. Is

560
00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:54,720
Speaker 2: that something that you hear often?

561
00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:59,560
Speaker 1: Yeah? So I find that, you know, it is a

562
00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:03,920
Speaker 1: very common question to people are curious how old is

563
00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:06,080
Speaker 1: your dog? You know, it's one thing with Doug, but

564
00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:10,280
Speaker 1: I think anyone that has an aging dog is going

565
00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:14,320
Speaker 1: to get these questions. And the issue isn't asking the question.

566
00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:19,160
Speaker 1: The issue is when the person or I in this case,

567
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:24,120
Speaker 1: says how old he is, they make a visible reaction

568
00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:27,520
Speaker 1: that has no purpose other than to make you feel

569
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:31,160
Speaker 1: bad and think of the worst. And so, you know,

570
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:33,600
Speaker 1: that post was kind of just to like shed some

571
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:37,120
Speaker 1: light on maybe, I don't know, changing the stigma around

572
00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:42,280
Speaker 1: how to react when someone asks or is told how

573
00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:45,040
Speaker 1: old their dog is. I mean, we don't need to

574
00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:51,760
Speaker 1: be reminded of that inevitable future. Ever, obviously it's a thing,

575
00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:54,560
Speaker 1: but like, I'm here to enjoy every single day, and

576
00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:58,280
Speaker 1: why don't we turn that into like, wow, he looks

577
00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:00,920
Speaker 1: so great or like good for you, like you must

578
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:04,240
Speaker 1: be taking such great care of him, right, and instead

579
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:08,400
Speaker 1: of oh gosh, like well mine blah blah blah, like nine,

580
00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:12,520
Speaker 1: like great, thanks, yeah, and it does happen. I mean, we,

581
00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:15,280
Speaker 1: you know, bring him out and about a lot, and

582
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:19,480
Speaker 1: most people and his followers and fans, they don't care

583
00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:22,600
Speaker 1: about it at all. But it's usually people that are

584
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:25,520
Speaker 1: like either skeptical of what we do or just kind

585
00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:27,239
Speaker 1: of want to make you feel bad. They're like they

586
00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:31,880
Speaker 1: they say that, and it never feels good. I kind

587
00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:35,320
Speaker 1: of made the reference earlier that, you know, when we

588
00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:39,840
Speaker 1: have an elderly human in our life, like a grandparent

589
00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:43,480
Speaker 1: or someone, and we ask how old they are and

590
00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:48,120
Speaker 1: you know, oh they're ninety five, we don't go oh no,

591
00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:52,560
Speaker 1: we go wow, that's amazing, what a long, beautiful life.

592
00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:55,760
Speaker 1: Like I hope they keep going, like keep going grandma

593
00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:59,200
Speaker 1: like hell yeah yeah, instead of like oh, like god,

594
00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:03,680
Speaker 1: my grandma died. Yeah, it's it's it doesn't it's not necessary.

595
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:04,080
Speaker 3: Yeah.

596
00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:05,360
Speaker 2: I think that's such a good point. It's something that

597
00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:07,800
Speaker 2: I hadn't really thought about, but I think it's so important,

598
00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:11,800
Speaker 2: like having we talk about this on the podcast Anticipatory Grief,

599
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:16,200
Speaker 2: and a lot of my listeners really like felt that

600
00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:18,640
Speaker 2: they feel this a lot at home, and it's preparing

601
00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:21,200
Speaker 2: for your dogs passing, which of course you want to

602
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:22,560
Speaker 2: live in the moment, but it's something that as a

603
00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:25,480
Speaker 2: dog owner you know your time is finite. It's something

604
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:27,080
Speaker 2: that you think about and the last thing we need

605
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:29,479
Speaker 2: is other people and outsiders like bringing it to our attention,

606
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:32,400
Speaker 2: like let us just enjoy each day with them, right,

607
00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:35,120
Speaker 2: So I think that's a good like for us to

608
00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:38,160
Speaker 2: all be aware of when talking to other dog owners,

609
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:39,479
Speaker 2: especially as senior pets.

610
00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:43,640
Speaker 1: I think, you know, chances are when you meet someone

611
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:47,720
Speaker 1: who has their dog with them, they're obsessed with their dog,

612
00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:52,080
Speaker 1: like that's that's that's a family member, right, and only

613
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:55,560
Speaker 1: positive things should be shared about a family member. You know,

614
00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:59,160
Speaker 1: if it were a child, they wouldn't be saying things

615
00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:03,080
Speaker 1: like that. And obviously dogs are not children, but to me,

616
00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:07,239
Speaker 1: my dogs are my children, so it does hurt and

617
00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:12,400
Speaker 1: it is taken personally. Yeah, but yeah, I just I

618
00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:16,080
Speaker 1: think everything should be positive and good vibes. Obviously that's

619
00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:19,120
Speaker 1: not the way work the world works. But when I

620
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:22,000
Speaker 1: meet someone's dog, I always say good things.

621
00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:27,040
Speaker 2: Always on that note, dog looks amazing for his age,

622
00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:29,840
Speaker 2: thank you. The first thing I noticed as event I'm like, wow,

623
00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:32,440
Speaker 2: his weight is perfect. Yes, he looks amazing. Is there

624
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:36,760
Speaker 2: anything you would attribute to how great he looks for twelve? Yeah,

625
00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:38,960
Speaker 2: So starting at a young age.

626
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:41,959
Speaker 1: He actually had a very severe health scare when he

627
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:47,120
Speaker 1: was younger. We gave him it was prescribed of pill

628
00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:49,840
Speaker 1: for his allergies, and he ended up having like a

629
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:52,920
Speaker 1: very rare reaction to it, and his blood platelet levels

630
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:57,200
Speaker 1: went life threateningly low. And at the time, oh my

631
00:32:57,200 --> 00:33:01,920
Speaker 1: gosh story. At the time, I had no idea about nutrition,

632
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:05,479
Speaker 1: about you know, the products in my home. We hadn't

633
00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:09,360
Speaker 1: dealt with any health issues ourselves, and so that really

634
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:12,160
Speaker 1: kind of woke us up to like, what what are

635
00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:15,240
Speaker 1: we doing that we could do better or more naturally

636
00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:18,600
Speaker 1: for Doug. And so we started using you know, more

637
00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:23,640
Speaker 1: natural ingredients and products, and honestly, him not being kibble

638
00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:26,680
Speaker 1: fed for us personally, has made the biggest change.

639
00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:30,040
Speaker 2: He looks amazing, Thank you, And I think there is

640
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:31,720
Speaker 2: such a fine balance of you know, of course being

641
00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:35,200
Speaker 2: a veterinarian, we do practice Western medicine, but also like

642
00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:36,800
Speaker 2: incorporating Eastern and holistic.

643
00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:41,160
Speaker 1: It's not one. It's not all or nothing for either side.

644
00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:44,680
Speaker 1: It's just just balance. Yes, So we give Doug. We

645
00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:47,040
Speaker 1: give Doug as much balance as possible.

646
00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:50,360
Speaker 2: Yes, and sometimes less is more and going more holistic

647
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:53,160
Speaker 2: route is you know, it can be really important. And

648
00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:55,400
Speaker 2: whatever you guys are doing, he looks amazing.

649
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:57,160
Speaker 1: Thank you. Tory is such a hymn.

650
00:33:57,320 --> 00:34:01,440
Speaker 2: She's sleeping on her little noggins on you. So typically

651
00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:04,480
Speaker 2: on this podcast, we'll start with I'll have uh listeners

652
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:07,240
Speaker 2: call in and ask questions and then I answer them. Today,

653
00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:08,960
Speaker 2: I figured we would do something a little different, and

654
00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:11,959
Speaker 2: I asked our listeners if they had any questions about Doug.

655
00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:13,000
Speaker 1: Perfect.

656
00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:15,319
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna ask you some questions that people are

657
00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:15,799
Speaker 2: dying to know.

658
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:16,840
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm ready.

659
00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:19,880
Speaker 2: Does Doug have a morning or bedtime routine?

660
00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:26,600
Speaker 1: Morning routine is absolutely sleeping until I make him get

661
00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:31,960
Speaker 1: out of bed. And nighttime routine is going out with

662
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:36,120
Speaker 1: me to put the chickens away. We have fourteen chickens. Oh, okay,

663
00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:39,000
Speaker 1: that is a newer thing. We've had them for a

664
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:40,879
Speaker 1: little over a year and it's so fun. You guys

665
00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:43,959
Speaker 1: have a little zoo. I love it. I can keep going.

666
00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:48,480
Speaker 1: But Rob is like, nope, you're fourteen chickens is enough.

667
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:52,080
Speaker 1: We all'll need to check the balance. He'll come out

668
00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:54,440
Speaker 1: with me and Dori will too, and well we'll get

669
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:57,200
Speaker 1: the chickens out and then we'll like just get super

670
00:34:57,200 --> 00:35:00,200
Speaker 1: cozy and we're all about coziness them.

671
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:01,840
Speaker 2: Do they sleep in bed with you guys?

672
00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:02,080
Speaker 3: Oh?

673
00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:03,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, I figured as mussed.

674
00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:08,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, what is his favorite activity? Sounds like it might

675
00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:12,640
Speaker 2: be sleeping eating? Eating, eating, It's that's like the best.

676
00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:15,640
Speaker 1: Time of day for Doug's his favorite snack to eat?

677
00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:22,799
Speaker 1: Oh so he loves blueberries? Oh, he loves loves blueberries.

678
00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:27,520
Speaker 1: I give him these freeze dried minnows okay, and it's

679
00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:31,480
Speaker 1: just like good protein and he just he can chomp

680
00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:33,880
Speaker 1: them all up. What else?

681
00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:37,520
Speaker 2: Watermelon? Oh isn't it cute to watch them eat watermelon?

682
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:41,760
Speaker 2: And he how many teeth does he have left?

683
00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:44,760
Speaker 1: Like? Is he he has a lot? On the top? Okay,

684
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:49,480
Speaker 1: Robs holding up five? He is more than five the

685
00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:52,640
Speaker 1: bottom I means, you know, pugged. Oh yeah, more than it.

686
00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:55,640
Speaker 2: I definitely know it is a constant struggle. It is

687
00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:58,680
Speaker 2: so but enough that he can still chomp on his minnows.

688
00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:03,239
Speaker 2: That's all we need. And any birthday traditions that you

689
00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:03,839
Speaker 2: do with Doug.

690
00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:10,040
Speaker 1: We take birthdays very seriously with the dogs. Whoa, well,

691
00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:13,200
Speaker 1: we don't know Dory's birthday, Well we'll celebrate her gotcha day.

692
00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:16,400
Speaker 1: But Doug, we just like take him all over town

693
00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:19,040
Speaker 1: and give him a good day and he gets a

694
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:23,200
Speaker 1: little cake and we're just like, you know, sing to him,

695
00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:25,320
Speaker 1: and yeah, he's very spoiled.

696
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:29,120
Speaker 2: I had a pet psychic on previously and she had

697
00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:33,239
Speaker 2: mentioned that birthdays, that of all the pets that she

698
00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:36,040
Speaker 2: talks to, that they am getting their birthday celebrated as

699
00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:38,160
Speaker 2: one of their favorite things and that even though we

700
00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:39,959
Speaker 2: may feel like, oh my gosh, are we over the top,

701
00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:42,759
Speaker 2: do they really even know? Like they definitely know, and

702
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:43,239
Speaker 2: they love it.

703
00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:43,840
Speaker 1: Doug.

704
00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:46,560
Speaker 2: He loves it, And I really I think they love him.

705
00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:48,440
Speaker 2: But I'm like, maybe I'm a crazy dog mom. But

706
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:50,080
Speaker 2: that made me feel better to hear that she said that,

707
00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:53,880
Speaker 2: Oh I love that. Do you have a nickname that

708
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:55,600
Speaker 2: you call him at home? I always think it's funny

709
00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:58,680
Speaker 2: how you'll see like how things can spiral a little

710
00:36:58,719 --> 00:36:59,600
Speaker 2: out of control.

711
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:04,920
Speaker 1: I am yeah, it's pretty out of control. He's Yuga

712
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:10,239
Speaker 1: bubbus bubs Coco no no Coco, no no, what am

713
00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:14,080
Speaker 1: I missing? Yeah, I mean.

714
00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 2: The great bubb Zo, the great Busino.

715
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:23,640
Speaker 1: Dorry is Dory NONI. Yeah, that's a good segue. So

716
00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:28,680
Speaker 1: my mom is Spanish and it's like a term of

717
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:32,800
Speaker 1: endearment to say Nony. It's like oh, like no, no,

718
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:36,160
Speaker 1: no ne. It's just like a sweet thing. And that's

719
00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:39,600
Speaker 1: why our holistic dog product company is called Nony Pup.

720
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:41,640
Speaker 1: I love that. It's just it was just like I

721
00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:46,280
Speaker 1: would say no kamir noni and yeah that's stup.

722
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:57,719
Speaker 2: I love that. It's a great name. All right, let's

723
00:37:57,719 --> 00:38:00,239
Speaker 2: see any with you being an artist, I guess both

724
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:02,560
Speaker 2: of you artists. Any songs that you sing to them

725
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 2: at home?

726
00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:08,440
Speaker 1: Yes, actually, so a thing for me over the past

727
00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:11,520
Speaker 1: few years, which I never expected. I've been able to

728
00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:15,879
Speaker 1: blend like my music world and Doug and I wrote

729
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:19,960
Speaker 1: him a song called Song for My Dog and it's

730
00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:24,600
Speaker 1: just a ukulele kind of a cappella ukulele song. And

731
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:27,279
Speaker 1: it's cool because a lot of dog owners have really

732
00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:30,680
Speaker 1: resonated with it, and it's been used like six hundred

733
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:34,880
Speaker 1: thousand times on TikTok or something gosh, and so like,

734
00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:37,560
Speaker 1: that's kind of the classic song because it just came

735
00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:41,360
Speaker 1: so easily. But I sing a lot to them. I

736
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:42,799
Speaker 1: sing a lot to them.

737
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:46,320
Speaker 2: That's so nice. You got to blend your two passions together.

738
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:48,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's really fun. I love that.

739
00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:53,719
Speaker 2: Okay, one last thing before you guys go, we I

740
00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:56,919
Speaker 2: am on TikTok. And there's this new viral trend going

741
00:38:56,960 --> 00:39:00,840
Speaker 2: on of who's more likely to most people are playing

742
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:03,560
Speaker 2: it with couples or friends. What I figure to be

743
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:06,600
Speaker 2: fun to do with Doug and Dorry. I'm in okay,

744
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:09,480
Speaker 2: So who is more likely to finish their food first?

745
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:10,960
Speaker 1: Dory? Dory?

746
00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:14,120
Speaker 2: But she does to eat oh yeah, but he like

747
00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:15,279
Speaker 2: savors it a.

748
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:19,239
Speaker 1: Little more than her. She's like, you're done, and yeah,

749
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:22,600
Speaker 1: like should probably get her a slow fear. Did you

750
00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:23,279
Speaker 1: even enjoy that?

751
00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:26,880
Speaker 2: Who is more likely to wake you up from storing

752
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:27,400
Speaker 2: so loud?

753
00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:28,760
Speaker 1: Dory? Okay?

754
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:31,720
Speaker 2: Who's more likely to poop in the house?

755
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:32,320
Speaker 3: Dorry.

756
00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:36,359
Speaker 1: We're working on that, to be fair. Doug. It's had

757
00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:38,960
Speaker 1: more time with the potty training. She's like I'm a risk.

758
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:44,279
Speaker 2: Yes, who's more likely to hog the bed? Doug where

759
00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:45,279
Speaker 2: does he sleep in the bed?

760
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:49,520
Speaker 1: So it's very cozy, Like as soon as I lay down,

761
00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:52,680
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, I say, assumed a position, and he

762
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:57,600
Speaker 1: comes and he like spin probably laughing through bark. He

763
00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:00,600
Speaker 1: like spins around and then he plops right in between

764
00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:03,120
Speaker 1: my legs and everyone knows that has a pug, Like

765
00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:06,239
Speaker 1: that's the thing, okay, But throughout the night he does

766
00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:09,040
Speaker 1: not move and it gets hot. Yeah, and so like

767
00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:11,040
Speaker 1: if I want to flip on my side, I have

768
00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:14,880
Speaker 1: to do this whole maneuver to not disturb him. Of course,

769
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:17,200
Speaker 1: so he's the bedthog for sure.

770
00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:18,759
Speaker 2: It is funny like in the middle of the night,

771
00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:21,560
Speaker 2: I'll change positions and I'm like, I will not disturb

772
00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:24,680
Speaker 2: my dog. It can't happen like ORMI I saw hole

773
00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:29,000
Speaker 2: and they are hot although they're small, they're little space heaters.

774
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:32,480
Speaker 1: Yeah. We have a whole like talk about bedtime routine.

775
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:35,720
Speaker 1: It's like Dory starts the night with rob and dugs

776
00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:38,840
Speaker 1: in between my legs and then Fiona, our cat, the

777
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:43,160
Speaker 1: white kiddie, she starts off sleeping on the corner of

778
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:46,080
Speaker 1: the bed. But when I go to the bathroom in

779
00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:48,440
Speaker 1: the middle of the night. I have to flip on

780
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:51,800
Speaker 1: my side and open my left arm to have a

781
00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:54,320
Speaker 1: little circle, and then Fiona will walk up to me

782
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:57,680
Speaker 1: and lay in my arms a second only after I

783
00:40:57,719 --> 00:41:00,720
Speaker 1: go to the bathroom. It's just but it's like heaven,

784
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:03,839
Speaker 1: you know, I wouldn't have it any other way, all right.

785
00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:06,600
Speaker 2: Who's more likely to ignore you when you say no?

786
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:10,880
Speaker 1: Oh? Doug? He's very stubborn. Oh really, Yeah. When he's on,

787
00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:14,040
Speaker 1: he's on, like when he's like doing a commercial or

788
00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:17,320
Speaker 1: you know, we're doing a video shoot, he's like freaking amazing.

789
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:20,960
Speaker 1: But you want him to heal on a walk? Good luck?

790
00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:22,520
Speaker 1: He's like, mom, do you know who I am? He

791
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:26,800
Speaker 1: literally just wants to smell and pee? Okay.

792
00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:29,760
Speaker 2: Who's more likely to play fetch?

793
00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:32,160
Speaker 1: Dory? Just a fetcher.

794
00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:34,760
Speaker 2: Who's more likely to console you when you're sad?

795
00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:40,280
Speaker 1: Douggie and Dory. They're both kind of equal in that regard.

796
00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:43,560
Speaker 1: They do it in their own ways. Last, but not least.

797
00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:45,400
Speaker 2: Who's more likely to sneak a tree off the table

798
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:46,200
Speaker 2: when you're not looking?

799
00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:52,320
Speaker 1: Doug? Yeah, he's I mean, he's like the food food monster.

800
00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:55,000
Speaker 2: He loves snacks, I have my little dog at home.

801
00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:58,040
Speaker 2: I like tell people that if I left him with

802
00:41:58,080 --> 00:42:00,360
Speaker 2: an endless a pie of food, he would eat himself, oh,

803
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:01,200
Speaker 2: until he exploded.

804
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:04,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think so. It's like doggy muck bangs, like

805
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:07,760
Speaker 1: they trust they would. They would just eat until they can't.

806
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:12,200
Speaker 2: I can't eat anymore. Oh, I hope we got that

807
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:18,520
Speaker 2: Dory snoring so loud. She's like, I'll show them amazing. Well,

808
00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:20,680
Speaker 2: thank you guys so much for coming on. It was

809
00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:23,759
Speaker 2: so nice to finally meet you guys in person. You're

810
00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:26,719
Speaker 2: so welcome. I love Doug so much. And if you

811
00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:29,760
Speaker 2: guys aren't following Doug already, you're crazy and you must.

812
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:32,400
Speaker 2: His handle is it's jug the Pug.

813
00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:33,919
Speaker 1: Thank you so much.

814
00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:41,200
Speaker 2: You're welcome. That was such a great interview. I loved

815
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:43,120
Speaker 2: having Doug and his sister Dory here.

816
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:44,520
Speaker 3: They were so cute.

817
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:46,879
Speaker 2: They were so cute, and all of you listeners out there,

818
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:50,319
Speaker 2: if you were hearing snorts and snores and farts and

819
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:53,200
Speaker 2: all the things, that was them really enjoying it.

820
00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:55,880
Speaker 3: We definitely picked up a lot of their their sounds,

821
00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:56,920
Speaker 3: but they were adorable.

822
00:42:57,080 --> 00:42:58,080
Speaker 1: That's just pug life.

823
00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:01,160
Speaker 2: Yes, you get the sounds and they're so cute, and

824
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:04,520
Speaker 2: Doug was sleeping most of the time. I think this

825
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:07,600
Speaker 2: studio has the effect of like putting dogs to sleep.

826
00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:09,880
Speaker 3: You know what, I've noticed, ever since you had that

827
00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:13,960
Speaker 3: pet psychic on, all the animals are so chill when

828
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:16,080
Speaker 3: they're in this space. I don't know what she did, and.

829
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:18,880
Speaker 2: She said she did some reiki on Saya, so maybe

830
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:19,719
Speaker 2: she like left her.

831
00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:21,480
Speaker 1: I think call me energy.

832
00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:24,160
Speaker 3: Because Doug was so active before he got up here.

833
00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:26,239
Speaker 3: In the second he sat down.

834
00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:29,319
Speaker 1: He was like night night, good night, good night. I

835
00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:29,799
Speaker 1: loved him.

836
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:31,440
Speaker 2: God, he was able to take a little snooze.

837
00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:33,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly.

838
00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:39,520
Speaker 2: All right, Well we'll jump right into our paw and order,

839
00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:46,279
Speaker 2: all right, in honor of Doug the Pug, I made

840
00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:50,880
Speaker 2: this paw and order addition for breaky cephalic breeds. Those

841
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:53,759
Speaker 2: are gonna be our smushed face breeds, like our Frenchies,

842
00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:59,080
Speaker 2: Pugs of course, English bulldogs, Boston Terriers, Boxers, shitsus which

843
00:43:59,120 --> 00:43:59,919
Speaker 2: Morgan has one.

844
00:43:59,880 --> 00:44:02,439
Speaker 3: Up of sure do, and she snores a lot.

845
00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:05,200
Speaker 2: They are little snores and they are so stinking cute.

846
00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:06,920
Speaker 2: And I know I've talked about this one hundred times,

847
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:10,279
Speaker 2: but they just cannot breathe as well as dogs with

848
00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:15,480
Speaker 2: long snouts can so any dog can overheat, but rereaky

849
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:18,880
Speaker 2: cephalic dogs are way more likely to overheat. So on

850
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:22,400
Speaker 2: days where it's over eighty degrees, if it's super humid outside,

851
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:25,680
Speaker 2: I highly recommend not going outside for long, long periods

852
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:28,319
Speaker 2: of time. If you have to go outside, like let's

853
00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:30,319
Speaker 2: say you're on a patio or you're hanging out, make

854
00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:32,760
Speaker 2: sure they have access to shade and plenty of water.

855
00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:35,920
Speaker 2: I would avoid long walks. Don't play fetch. It can

856
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:40,000
Speaker 2: go from like a really fun afternoon where everything seems

857
00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:43,040
Speaker 2: hunky dory, and then to all of a sudden, they're

858
00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:45,880
Speaker 2: not able to regulate their body temperature. They're overheating, and

859
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:47,799
Speaker 2: it's a life threatening emergency.

860
00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:51,200
Speaker 3: I've been able to tell this recently with my shit too.

861
00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:54,480
Speaker 3: Andy will go on walks around my apartment and we

862
00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:58,319
Speaker 3: make it maybe halfway around my apartment building, just my building, right,

863
00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:00,479
Speaker 3: and I'm like, okay, I'm picking you up and we're

864
00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:02,080
Speaker 3: going back now, and.

865
00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:03,120
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get you a stroller.

866
00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:03,399
Speaker 3: Yep.

867
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:06,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's crazy. I mean, and they won't. I mean,

868
00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:08,680
Speaker 2: they'll be usually the young ones too. They're tails wagging,

869
00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:10,600
Speaker 2: they're bouncing around. Oh I'm super happy, and then all

870
00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:13,160
Speaker 2: of a sudden they become too hot. They can't sweat

871
00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:13,719
Speaker 2: like we can.

872
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:17,400
Speaker 3: Andy immediately comes in the house and she just lays

873
00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:21,360
Speaker 3: flat out Superman pretty much and just has the cool

874
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:24,040
Speaker 3: floor on her stomach and then seems to get it

875
00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:26,200
Speaker 3: back together. But yeah, it's worrisome.

876
00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:29,360
Speaker 2: It is worrisome, and it's better to just be preventative

877
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:31,759
Speaker 2: and keep a really close eye on it and just

878
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:33,680
Speaker 2: know if it's hot out, if you're laying your hand

879
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:36,920
Speaker 2: on the concrete or cement and you know it feels

880
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:39,200
Speaker 2: very warm to you, that's what their paws are touching,

881
00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:41,359
Speaker 2: that's what their bellies touching when they're laying down, and

882
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:43,480
Speaker 2: that's a recipe for them to overheat pretty quickly.

883
00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:46,000
Speaker 3: Is there a sign when it's like, okay, they're not

884
00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:48,560
Speaker 3: cooling themselves down, maybe I should take them into the vet.

885
00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:51,160
Speaker 2: If they're a respiratory rate like let's say you were

886
00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:53,760
Speaker 2: outside and now you're back inside and you've been inside

887
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:55,440
Speaker 2: for a couple of minutes and their respiratory rate is

888
00:45:55,480 --> 00:46:00,239
Speaker 2: still really high. They're panting, they're you know, drooling from

889
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:02,320
Speaker 2: the mouth a lot of times. Their gum color or

890
00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:04,960
Speaker 2: their tongue color will change. So if you see any

891
00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:09,080
Speaker 2: like purplish color, if it's not that like bright healthy pink,

892
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:12,920
Speaker 2: that's like no boin, no sos, emergency, go to the

893
00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:13,759
Speaker 2: hospital right away.

894
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:16,319
Speaker 3: Got it is that button still right over there, the

895
00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:20,279
Speaker 3: one on the board. Yeah, okay, just checking.

896
00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:22,600
Speaker 2: Producing and producer, Morgan.

897
00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:24,239
Speaker 3: You just want to make sure you're glad to hear

898
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:25,239
Speaker 3: capturing this, you.

899
00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:28,600
Speaker 1: Know, Yeah, this is very important information, all right.

900
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:31,160
Speaker 2: Number two, if you are planning to own a break

901
00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:36,000
Speaker 2: ecephalic breed, then be prepared to wipe. My friends, there's

902
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:37,240
Speaker 2: a lot of wiping involved.

903
00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:37,759
Speaker 1: Wipe.

904
00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:43,000
Speaker 2: You have to wipe those nasal folds, those cute little

905
00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:46,200
Speaker 2: wrinkles and folds all around their nose and their eyes

906
00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:50,480
Speaker 2: are adorable, but they fill up with gunk. They get infected,

907
00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:53,320
Speaker 2: and you want to start wiping from day one. You

908
00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:54,800
Speaker 2: want to get them used to it as a puppy.

909
00:46:55,719 --> 00:46:58,000
Speaker 2: And Morgan's like, I have never done this in my life.

910
00:46:58,280 --> 00:46:59,720
Speaker 3: Once in my life have I wiped.

911
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:03,399
Speaker 2: I will say shitzuos, although they're breakie saphalac, they tend

912
00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:05,919
Speaker 2: to have less folds than like a frenchie or a pug.

913
00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:08,120
Speaker 2: Like they really I mean as you saw with Doug

914
00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:11,280
Speaker 2: and Dory, like they have some pretty thick nasal folds.

915
00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:13,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think Andy's a little better off.

916
00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:15,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe some less folds. So you're not don worry.

917
00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:17,920
Speaker 2: We're not owner shaming you, I feel it.

918
00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:19,000
Speaker 3: Okay.

919
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:22,560
Speaker 2: Uh so yeah, be prepared to wipe. You got to

920
00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:24,920
Speaker 2: like open those folds up, get in there with your wipes,

921
00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:29,120
Speaker 2: and really really clean them out. Unscented baby wipes are best,

922
00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:31,839
Speaker 2: but if they are getting infected, if they're red, if

923
00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:33,960
Speaker 2: they're stinky, you probably want to talk to your vet

924
00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:35,160
Speaker 2: and get some medicated wipes.

925
00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:38,960
Speaker 3: Imagine someone just tunes in the podcast like right here

926
00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:41,839
Speaker 3: at this moment, and you're like, open those folds, get

927
00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:45,920
Speaker 3: in there, white, get on, and then in there. Okay.

928
00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:51,000
Speaker 2: And on that note, a lot of them have quirkscrew tails,

929
00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:53,719
Speaker 2: like our bulldogs are Bostons, and those have a lot

930
00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:55,799
Speaker 2: of folds around them too, So you want to clean

931
00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:57,680
Speaker 2: out those little butt folds around their tails too.

932
00:47:57,960 --> 00:47:59,880
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, such high maintenance.

933
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:02,920
Speaker 2: It is not a glamorous job, but someone's got to

934
00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:06,800
Speaker 2: do it and it's important. So just start your wipe

935
00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:08,920
Speaker 2: fund right now. If you're going to own a break

936
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:09,920
Speaker 2: eecephalic breed.

937
00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:11,080
Speaker 3: And get in those folds, y'all.

938
00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:14,319
Speaker 2: Get in those folds all right, last, but not least

939
00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:19,200
Speaker 2: if they are coughing or sneezing excessively. Obviously a sneeze

940
00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:20,439
Speaker 2: here and there is not the end of the world.

941
00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:22,040
Speaker 2: But if you're like, hey, my dog's sneezing a lot,

942
00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:24,279
Speaker 2: there's not coming out of its nose, take it to

943
00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:26,800
Speaker 2: the vet right away. Any sign of a respiratory infection,

944
00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:29,960
Speaker 2: and these pets that already can't really oxygenate that well

945
00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:33,320
Speaker 2: should be taken really seriously. Sometimes our dogs that have

946
00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:35,920
Speaker 2: a mile cough, we can give them a day or

947
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:37,600
Speaker 2: so see if they can clear it on their own,

948
00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:39,680
Speaker 2: just like when you and I get a cold. But

949
00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:42,560
Speaker 2: with a break acephalic, it's like nope, red flag, straight

950
00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:42,960
Speaker 2: to the vet.

951
00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:45,520
Speaker 3: I've been lucky there too. Andy hasn't done a lot

952
00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:47,840
Speaker 3: of that. She had a little reverse sneezing spell for

953
00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:49,319
Speaker 3: a few weeks and then that went away.

954
00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:49,799
Speaker 1: M hm.

955
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:51,839
Speaker 3: And we've been smooth sailing since.

956
00:48:52,080 --> 00:48:54,280
Speaker 2: We're going to do a whole thing on reverse sneezing

957
00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:56,200
Speaker 2: for our listeners out there. I've had so many people

958
00:48:56,200 --> 00:48:57,800
Speaker 2: ask me about this, so we will get to that,

959
00:48:58,000 --> 00:49:00,879
Speaker 2: but yes, you are very lucky and that you haven't

960
00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:05,560
Speaker 2: had that issue. Yeah, coughing is Coughing is no bueno,

961
00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:09,799
Speaker 2: especially in our breaky syphlex So that's it. That's our

962
00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:11,399
Speaker 2: last poll in order of the day. It was such

963
00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:14,680
Speaker 2: a great episode. Loved having Doug here, Love having Morgan,

964
00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:18,120
Speaker 2: producer Morgan President Morgan here. Oh my gosh, the president

965
00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:19,839
Speaker 2: of the Nashville Podcast Network.

966
00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:21,719
Speaker 3: Join more often. This has been a lot of fun

967
00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:23,239
Speaker 3: and I feel like I can just use you to

968
00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:24,640
Speaker 3: ask all my questions.

969
00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:26,840
Speaker 2: I think. So this is your first appearance, but it

970
00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:27,960
Speaker 2: won't be your last day.

971
00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:28,760
Speaker 3: Awesome.

972
00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:31,360
Speaker 2: And for all the listeners out there, if you have

973
00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:35,120
Speaker 2: any questions, you can always DM me on Instagram at

974
00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:37,239
Speaker 2: doctor Josie Vett. You can click the link in my

975
00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:40,160
Speaker 2: bio to record any questions you have for the podcast,

976
00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:43,440
Speaker 2: and as always, please rate, review, and subscribe.

977
00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:47,320
Speaker 3: Five stars really help a new podcast. So if you

978
00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:50,760
Speaker 3: could spare ten seconds just to hit I have stars

979
00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:54,320
Speaker 3: on all the platforms you listen, that would be awesome.

980
00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:57,719
Speaker 2: You'll take all the help we can get and we'll

981
00:49:57,760 --> 00:49:58,520
Speaker 2: see you next week.

982
00:49:58,719 --> 00:49:59,440
Speaker 1: Thanks for tuning in.