1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:04,880 Speaker 1: Right, So I've got some good news and bad news 2 00:00:05,320 --> 00:00:09,639 Speaker 1: for you. The good news is we've got will Caine. 3 00:00:09,760 --> 00:00:12,680 Speaker 1: We had an awesome discussion about a bunch of different 4 00:00:12,720 --> 00:00:19,680 Speaker 1: things life COVID Joe Biden governor to Santis. Is brilliant 5 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:23,319 Speaker 1: move of sending the illegal immigrants to Martha's vineyard and 6 00:00:23,360 --> 00:00:27,160 Speaker 1: then watching these frauds show themselves to be the frauds 7 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:33,080 Speaker 1: that they are. So awesome discussion, funny, lively, just really amazing. 8 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:35,720 Speaker 1: I walked away being like, gosh, that was an awesome interview. 9 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:39,360 Speaker 1: Awesome interview with Wolcaneo Less. He's a great guys on 10 00:00:39,479 --> 00:00:41,720 Speaker 1: Fox News. You know him. He's a co host of 11 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:45,919 Speaker 1: Fox and Friends Weekend. Before that he was at ESPN. 12 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:49,360 Speaker 1: He had a radio show there as well, called The 13 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:52,839 Speaker 1: Wilcaine Show, which makes sense because his name is wilkane uh. 14 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:55,080 Speaker 1: And then before that he was also on stun In 15 00:00:55,400 --> 00:00:58,360 Speaker 1: for a little bit of time. God bless him for that, right, 16 00:00:58,400 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 1: But takes a lot of courage and also patience to 17 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:05,640 Speaker 1: be on a network like that. So he's an awesome guy. 18 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:09,039 Speaker 1: So it was an awesome conversation, amazing, really really like 19 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:12,720 Speaker 1: one of the best. And then guess what happened. This 20 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:16,039 Speaker 1: is what the bad news kick said. So somehow we 21 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 1: had a technical glitch the podcast system that we used 22 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:22,200 Speaker 1: to record everything. It recorded what he had to say, 23 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:25,840 Speaker 1: but not what I had to say. Now the good 24 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:27,720 Speaker 1: news is what he had to say. It was so 25 00:01:27,760 --> 00:01:29,520 Speaker 1: good that we're keeping the interview. I didn't want to 26 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:31,120 Speaker 1: scrap it. I didn't want to can it. But I 27 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:32,680 Speaker 1: also wanted to be honest with you, guys. I don't 28 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:34,560 Speaker 1: want to b su. It's a whole point of this 29 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:39,000 Speaker 1: freaking podcast is being honest with you and just saying 30 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:42,720 Speaker 1: it how it is. So that's what happened. So what 31 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:44,280 Speaker 1: we're gonna do is I mean to give you kind 32 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:47,920 Speaker 1: of a guided tour. You know, maybe like Disney will 33 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 1: approach me for some voiceover work after this or something, 34 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 1: but I'm just kidding. That's not gonna happen. Also, they're 35 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 1: a terrible company, so I don't really wonder from I mean, 36 00:01:57,520 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 1: not like it's gonna happen. But anyway, stay suff But 37 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 1: so point big is basically just going to try to 38 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:04,360 Speaker 1: walk you through this interview. It's still good, it's still 39 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:07,440 Speaker 1: worth listening to. Wilcaine makes amazing points. The guys awesome. 40 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:21,520 Speaker 1: So here's the interview with Wilcaine. So, Will Caine, I 41 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 1: appreciate I was on your podcast recently, so I feel 42 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:28,240 Speaker 1: like we're doing a tag team here. I love it. Yes, 43 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:31,359 Speaker 1: you were awesome on my podcast last week. I hope 44 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:33,520 Speaker 1: I can live up to the expectations in the example 45 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:35,919 Speaker 1: set this week. Oh you, well, we'll see. I was 46 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 1: telling you on your podcast. What I really appreciate. I 47 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:40,919 Speaker 1: feel like there's so much cowardice in the media these days, 48 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:43,680 Speaker 1: and you're not and you always say how you feel, 49 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 1: and you're always honest about things, and I feel like 50 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:49,400 Speaker 1: there's just so much self censorship that goes on and 51 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:52,680 Speaker 1: people are just afraid to say what is true. And 52 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 1: I think and part of that is because what we 53 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 1: see with big tech and all the censorship that goes 54 00:02:56,320 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 1: on there, which is obviously coming from the White House, 55 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 1: but we do it to ourself. There are a lot 56 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 1: of people in the media do it to themselves. I 57 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:06,239 Speaker 1: feel like, oh yeah, self censorship is the most insidious 58 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 1: form of censorship, you know. Um, I appreciate that compliment 59 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 1: that I somehow don't do so or I go forth bravely, 60 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 1: but I'll tell you I'll tell you maybe where that 61 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 1: comes from, but also ask you a question on the 62 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:22,240 Speaker 1: back end. You know, most of my career, Lisa, I 63 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 1: have been not with an organization like Fox I've been. 64 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 1: I was at CNN for several years, and then I 65 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:32,600 Speaker 1: spent five years at ESPN. So I was constantly surrounded 66 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 1: by people who disagreed with me, and I actually think 67 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:41,200 Speaker 1: on most of those occasions, my position was actually the 68 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 1: one that was more mainstream, that was more popular. It 69 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 1: was just quiet, and I saw so many people sensor 70 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 1: them spells, particularly at ESPN, because they were worried about 71 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:54,600 Speaker 1: the backlash on social media or this percepnce they wouldn't 72 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:57,040 Speaker 1: be liked. I just never worried about that. I'm like, 73 00:03:57,080 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 1: you know, I don't know, this is what I think. 74 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 1: Can I actually think a lot of people agree with me. 75 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 1: So I wanted to ask Will about the point I 76 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 1: made earlier about the fact that there's a lot of 77 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 1: cowardice and media. Why is there so much group think? 78 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 1: Why why are people so afraid to speak their mind today? 79 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:17,680 Speaker 1: Listen to what he had to say. Yeah, So what 80 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 1: we're looking at today is this convergence of like people 81 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:25,960 Speaker 1: are calling it whatever, mass formation psychosis, right, which is 82 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:31,200 Speaker 1: I think a fancy term for like overwhelming group think. 83 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:33,680 Speaker 1: And yeah, you're right. I mean we're looking at a 84 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:37,920 Speaker 1: massive amount of overwhelming group think, which is supported by 85 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:40,360 Speaker 1: you know, appeals to authority. Who are you to know? 86 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 1: How do you know? Are you a doctor? Do you 87 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 1: work for the CDC? Whatever? It may be, Right, it's 88 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 1: just all designed to shut down any torp sort of independence. 89 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:52,720 Speaker 1: But yeah, I don't know, it's not it's it's the 90 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 1: main thing is it's just asking you not to be 91 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:57,719 Speaker 1: a critical thinker, and that's not something I'm willing to do. 92 00:04:57,880 --> 00:04:59,919 Speaker 1: So Basically, when I do these, I'm always looking up 93 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 1: information about people, trying to figure out is there anything 94 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 1: interesting about their background that people might not know. So 95 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:09,760 Speaker 1: one thing that I discovered when looking up information about 96 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 1: well one, I didn't know he was an attorney before 97 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:16,719 Speaker 1: this interview. And then secondly, he actually worked on a 98 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:21,680 Speaker 1: ranch in Montana after law school. Listen, yeah, both of 99 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 1: those things are true. I might be more proud of 100 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:27,159 Speaker 1: one than the other. You know, the ranch experience on 101 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:30,720 Speaker 1: my resume is a better conversational topic at parties than 102 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 1: he's going to law school, because everybody goes to law school, right, 103 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 1: what is that? Um? You know, law schools like this 104 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:38,880 Speaker 1: default path in life for people who don't know what 105 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:41,240 Speaker 1: they want to do after college. But I actually, by 106 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 1: the way, I really loved law school. I loved it. 107 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 1: I feel like I learned more in three years at 108 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 1: law school than I learned in four years of college. 109 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:48,920 Speaker 1: And the main thing I learned how to do is 110 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 1: to organize my thoughts. And um, I don't know. And 111 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 1: I went to law school University of Texas, and I 112 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 1: lived in Austin, and it was a damn good time. 113 00:05:58,200 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 1: And it's perfectly my style. It's perfectly my style as well, 114 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:05,600 Speaker 1: at least at UT law, where it's like one test 115 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:09,240 Speaker 1: per class per semester. You're not gonna be bogged down 116 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:12,160 Speaker 1: with busy work. That's good for me, you know. So 117 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:14,839 Speaker 1: I could have a really good time on sixth Street 118 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 1: or four Street or wherever it was at that night 119 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 1: in Austin. But for a month at the end of 120 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:20,600 Speaker 1: the semester, I had to buckle down the library and 121 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:23,440 Speaker 1: figure out exactly what this whole thing was about. Um. 122 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:25,600 Speaker 1: But the ranch. Yeah, I lived in Montana. After law 123 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 1: schoo I moved to Montana. I worked on a ranch. 124 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 1: We were primarily a hunting outfitter. We had horses and mules, 125 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 1: and we book trips for hunters that came in, mostly 126 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:39,120 Speaker 1: from out of state, to go hunt elk or sheep, 127 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 1: rams um or moose or whatever it may be, mostly 128 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 1: elk and deer, and it was an awesome experience in 129 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:49,680 Speaker 1: my life. I mean, one of the you know whatever, 130 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:51,840 Speaker 1: when I'm when I'm done with this life, it will 131 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:53,560 Speaker 1: be something I look back on and think, what a 132 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:57,000 Speaker 1: what a year well spent. What's really sad is that 133 00:06:57,680 --> 00:07:01,600 Speaker 1: I was telling him this epics story about how when 134 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 1: I went to Jackson Hole with a couple of girlfriends, 135 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:07,840 Speaker 1: we hung out on a ranch U my a friend 136 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:09,960 Speaker 1: of a friend, knew some guys who owned the ranch. 137 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 1: We ate elk, we had a camp fire. And then 138 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:17,800 Speaker 1: also I was telling him about this epic game of 139 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 1: corn hole that I was playing where it was like hours, 140 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 1: you know, a couple of hours. I think it was 141 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:24,680 Speaker 1: like maybe three hours, or it was like this epic 142 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 1: game eventually would And then we got in this whole 143 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 1: conversation about if we're both competitive or which obviously I yeam. 144 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 1: I grew up with three brothers, but to listen to 145 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 1: what he had to say about that I am competitive, 146 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 1: but there's levels to this. I'll tell you, Like I am. 147 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 1: I've always thought of myself and I am I'm a 148 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 1: competitive person. And you know, um, I have two brothers, 149 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 1: I had a I have a best friend who's been 150 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:49,560 Speaker 1: my best friend since the age of one. And I 151 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 1: mean it's like we were always together and really what 152 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:55,480 Speaker 1: that was was always on the verge of a fight 153 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 1: because we were so competitive with one another. Um, so 154 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 1: you kind of wonder where that comes from. My son's 155 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 1: play soccer now, and like they're they're both competitive. My 156 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 1: younger one, I've always thought it was like super competitive, 157 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 1: but then the higher level he gets, I'm like, man, 158 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:13,480 Speaker 1: you know the difference between you and the other boys, 159 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 1: and like it's not skilled, it's not ability. It's like 160 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 1: they will not accept any outcome but a win. They 161 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:23,720 Speaker 1: will cheat. They will play through the game like it 162 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:25,680 Speaker 1: doesn't matter the coach has to say, Okay, game over. 163 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 1: They literally will not stop until they win. I'm like, 164 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:32,080 Speaker 1: you're gonna have to find that, buddy. So I think 165 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 1: of myself as competitive, but there are levels to this. 166 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 1: I wanted to get will take about the sixty minutes 167 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:44,200 Speaker 1: interview with Joe Biden. Obviously, it's painful to have to 168 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 1: sit through any interview listening to Joe Biden, because he's 169 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:51,680 Speaker 1: an idiot, and he's old and senile, and he's also evil. 170 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:54,000 Speaker 1: But so I wanted to ask him if he had 171 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:58,000 Speaker 1: watched that, and I teed up this clip for him, 172 00:08:58,120 --> 00:09:00,280 Speaker 1: and then I asked him if he had watched and 173 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 1: got his reaction on the club who today think about it? 174 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:07,679 Speaker 1: It's all personal attacks. It's about motive, it's not about 175 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:11,439 Speaker 1: I disagree on the on the subject matter. And secondly, 176 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:15,679 Speaker 1: I think that it's I think it's fair to say 177 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:19,920 Speaker 1: that we've not had a president like the last president 178 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:23,920 Speaker 1: who has made all but so personal. I've had six 179 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 1: Republican senators I promised I'd never say their names and 180 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:29,640 Speaker 1: I won't come up to me in the last two 181 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:31,719 Speaker 1: years and said, Joe, I agree with you, but if 182 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:34,800 Speaker 1: I if I vote this way, it's gonna they're gonna primary, 183 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 1: gonna lose an election. It didn't used to be that way, 184 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 1: but it's coming back a little bit. This was the 185 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:44,079 Speaker 1: vice presidential candidate that said they're gonna put you all 186 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:47,320 Speaker 1: back in chains. Remember that he I don't know if 187 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 1: this was when he was vice president of Canada under 188 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:55,079 Speaker 1: Barack Obama. Met Romney of all people, was running against him, 189 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 1: and he was speaking to I don't remember which black organization, 190 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 1: but he you know it on his his fake black accent, 191 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:04,160 Speaker 1: which is, how how do you get away with that? 192 00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 1: I don't understand how you get away with that? And 193 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:08,800 Speaker 1: then said they're gonna put you all back in chains. 194 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 1: Like every everything he has done, let me make three points. One. 195 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 1: Everything he has done has been to vilify his opponents. 196 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:18,280 Speaker 1: This is the pandemic of the unvaccinated. Our patients is 197 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:21,720 Speaker 1: running out with you. You are actually endangering the lives 198 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:24,600 Speaker 1: of your neighbors. Were now dealing with semi fascists. We're 199 00:10:24,640 --> 00:10:28,240 Speaker 1: dealing with threats to democracy. Every point he has made, 200 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:30,480 Speaker 1: every position he has stood firm on, has been to 201 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 1: vilify his opponent as a person, not an idea or 202 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:39,000 Speaker 1: a platform. Two. I hate this idea, Like Scott Pelley 203 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:40,679 Speaker 1: is sitting there talking to him about you know, the 204 00:10:40,679 --> 00:10:43,040 Speaker 1: way it used to be, and and there's this vein 205 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:47,760 Speaker 1: of acceptability right, And for some reason, democratic policies and 206 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:52,480 Speaker 1: democratic politicians get to commander what is popularly accepted to 207 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 1: be the middle. No matter what they do. They're kind 208 00:10:56,520 --> 00:10:58,480 Speaker 1: of in the middle, outside of the ao c s 209 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:00,040 Speaker 1: of the world right there in the middle. And in 210 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:03,400 Speaker 1: Republicans who oppose that middle, well, they're radical. It doesn't 211 00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:05,640 Speaker 1: matter what the sentiments of the country is, it doesn't 212 00:11:05,640 --> 00:11:08,200 Speaker 1: matter where you pulled people on an issue. He is 213 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:13,760 Speaker 1: he is the acceptable moderate middle of American politics. How 214 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 1: is that? Why? Why does he get to hold that space? 215 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 1: And in third, this is tied into that conversation we 216 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:26,080 Speaker 1: just had. That space is increasingly commondeered by you know, 217 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:30,479 Speaker 1: radical thought, like what became mass formation psychosis or acceptable 218 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:34,080 Speaker 1: group think became get your kid vaxed regardless of the 219 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:37,600 Speaker 1: risk reward ratio or analysis, don't ask questions and just 220 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:42,079 Speaker 1: accept authority and or now it's whatever, like don't question 221 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:44,439 Speaker 1: your kid's choice and use and pronouns, or even take 222 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:47,079 Speaker 1: him to the doctor and begin to start hormone blockers. 223 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:53,000 Speaker 1: That ground of acceptability is increasingly radical. So I don't 224 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:55,720 Speaker 1: even understand why we're sitting here today and Joe Biden 225 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 1: gets to comment on what moderation is another part for 226 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:03,040 Speaker 1: him Joe Biden's interview, as he said that the pandemic 227 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:08,360 Speaker 1: is over, which is probably news to the military heroes 228 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:10,760 Speaker 1: who were kicked out because they didn't want to get 229 00:12:10,760 --> 00:12:14,720 Speaker 1: the vaccine news to people who are still being punished 230 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:19,000 Speaker 1: and are still fighting for their jobs employees across America 231 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 1: for a vaccine that doesn't stop the spread for a virus, 232 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:25,920 Speaker 1: and a pandemic that is allegedly over according to Joe Biden. 233 00:12:26,040 --> 00:12:28,480 Speaker 1: So I wanted to ask, will, has any of this 234 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:34,520 Speaker 1: ever actually been about a pandemic in the first place? Well, 235 00:12:34,559 --> 00:12:37,240 Speaker 1: I mean yeah, I mean I think they've answered their 236 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 1: question with none. We're approaching a midterm election. It's more 237 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:43,439 Speaker 1: advantageous to declare victory to declare the pandemic, because over 238 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:47,800 Speaker 1: two weeks ago, Joe Biden, against all Science, was wearing 239 00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:52,400 Speaker 1: a mask outdoors two weeks ago while getting off his helicopter. 240 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 1: At the same time, as you point out, there are 241 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:58,160 Speaker 1: policies in place that people are losing their jobs. Military teachers, 242 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:01,040 Speaker 1: they're right now losing the jobs because their choice, and 243 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:03,200 Speaker 1: not what do we do. I don't even know what 244 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:05,000 Speaker 1: it means to be vaccinated. I don't I don't know 245 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:11,200 Speaker 1: what that means. So, I mean, literally, what does that mean? Um? 246 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:15,080 Speaker 1: So they they haven't gotten their updated booster, the latest 247 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:16,880 Speaker 1: issue of the booster. I don't know what. They're losing 248 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:20,040 Speaker 1: their jobs and he's declaring the pandemic is over. Um, 249 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:25,520 Speaker 1: that's man, what what a what a you know epidemic? 250 00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:29,160 Speaker 1: He you launched on people's lives of depression and unemployment 251 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:35,360 Speaker 1: and purposelessness in order to achieve political ends. And I 252 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:40,640 Speaker 1: pointed out that it's infuriating that no one's being punished, 253 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:44,880 Speaker 1: that there's no retribution, that the people who have suffered 254 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:48,000 Speaker 1: so greatly at the hands of people like Dr Fauci, 255 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:50,800 Speaker 1: When are they going to get what to do go 256 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:52,640 Speaker 1: to them? When when are they going to get answers? 257 00:13:53,400 --> 00:13:55,720 Speaker 1: And and what are the people who made them suffer 258 00:13:55,760 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 1: going to punish? To be punished? You know, the lockdown 259 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:04,000 Speaker 1: didn't work, The vaccines didn't work. None of the promises 260 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:07,599 Speaker 1: these people made came to fruition. They were wrong about everything. 261 00:14:08,480 --> 00:14:12,480 Speaker 1: Yet people's lives were destroyed, their businesses were destroyed, people 262 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:16,960 Speaker 1: killed themselves. We had suicides, overdoses, de layed care. We 263 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:19,760 Speaker 1: still don't know the full effect of all of these 264 00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:23,640 Speaker 1: policies on people's lives and still suffering right like inflation 265 00:14:23,680 --> 00:14:26,000 Speaker 1: is still out of control because in part because of 266 00:14:26,040 --> 00:14:29,120 Speaker 1: broken supply chains and then because of exorbitant government spending. 267 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:33,080 Speaker 1: So inflation is still ravaging people's pocket books. People are 268 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:36,600 Speaker 1: still losing their jobs. And over the long term, UM, 269 00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:40,600 Speaker 1: we will see what the cost was of forcing people 270 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:44,240 Speaker 1: who did not need to to get vaccinated. We don't 271 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:46,440 Speaker 1: know the long term effects. We'll find out. We're starting 272 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:49,800 Speaker 1: to get data, but um, they'll never be an accounting 273 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 1: to that. You know, if we ever seen it that 274 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:53,920 Speaker 1: you know, I think you and I talked about this 275 00:14:54,160 --> 00:14:56,280 Speaker 1: last week on the Will Came podcast. But you know, 276 00:14:56,640 --> 00:15:00,560 Speaker 1: Fauci in the nineteen was nine says, oh, you know, 277 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:02,960 Speaker 1: vaccine for AIDS. I don't know, because we don't know 278 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:05,280 Speaker 1: what the long term effects are over five years, over 279 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 1: ten years, over twenty years. He shows none of those 280 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:11,080 Speaker 1: same concerns over a COVID vaccine. So over five years 281 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:13,720 Speaker 1: and ten years and twenty years, we'll see that ongoing 282 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:16,240 Speaker 1: cost as well of these policies. So I love this 283 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:18,920 Speaker 1: response from Will. I wanted to get his take on 284 00:15:19,040 --> 00:15:22,680 Speaker 1: Governor to Santa's brilliant move by sending the fifty illegal 285 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:27,400 Speaker 1: immigrants to Martha's Vineyard, which really exploited these frauds for 286 00:15:27,480 --> 00:15:30,359 Speaker 1: the frauds that they are, and these so called sanctuary 287 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:36,000 Speaker 1: cities not wanting to provide sanctuary. Listen a lesson in compassion. 288 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:40,720 Speaker 1: My forty four hours with my Venezuelan loves Toyamo. I 289 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:42,800 Speaker 1: I can't get enough of this story. I mean, this 290 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:47,760 Speaker 1: story is everything to me. I'm bye bye saying payamo. 291 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:50,440 Speaker 1: I'm referencing this particular video and it's I love this 292 00:15:50,560 --> 00:15:52,680 Speaker 1: video so much, leads, I hope you've seen it. But 293 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:55,720 Speaker 1: it's these ladies. It's all in the video. I think 294 00:15:55,720 --> 00:15:59,520 Speaker 1: it's almost all ladies with these ladies. Um. I gathered 295 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:02,880 Speaker 1: around as the Venezuelan illegal immigrants load up on busses 296 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:06,720 Speaker 1: to be shipped off of Martha's vineyard, and these ladies 297 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:10,160 Speaker 1: are in their fashionable hats and their side ponytails and 298 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:13,920 Speaker 1: given double hand waves and and from the back, one 299 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:18,680 Speaker 1: of ladies yells tomoh, you know which is Spanish. I 300 00:16:18,760 --> 00:16:23,040 Speaker 1: love you, um, you know, as we invoke the National 301 00:16:23,080 --> 00:16:26,360 Speaker 1: Guard to ship you off of our island. We love you, 302 00:16:26,600 --> 00:16:29,239 Speaker 1: but you got to go. Let's take a quick commercial 303 00:16:29,280 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 1: break back with bocane on the other side. So, I 304 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:41,840 Speaker 1: don't know if you guys saw this headline from CNN 305 00:16:42,080 --> 00:16:46,480 Speaker 1: about this forty our visit that the illegal immigrants were 306 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:48,920 Speaker 1: allowed to have in Martha's vineyard. But this is the headline. 307 00:16:49,560 --> 00:16:54,120 Speaker 1: It says, they enriched US migrants forty four our visit 308 00:16:54,280 --> 00:17:00,960 Speaker 1: leaves indelible mark on Martha's vineyard. Obviously, it's an epic headline, hilarious. 309 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:02,800 Speaker 1: CNN is trying to make it seem like, you know, 310 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:10,200 Speaker 1: these people were nice, home made diskin So I don't 311 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:14,720 Speaker 1: know if you guys saw this CNN headline, but it 312 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:20,200 Speaker 1: says this they enriched US migrants forty four hour visit 313 00:17:20,359 --> 00:17:25,560 Speaker 1: leaves indelible mark on Martha's vineyard. It starts off saying, 314 00:17:25,640 --> 00:17:29,760 Speaker 1: after sharing hugs interior goodbyes with roughly fifty migrants who 315 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:33,320 Speaker 1: had arrived unexpectedly by playing on this affluent vacation island, 316 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:36,639 Speaker 1: the volunteers who sheltered them at an Episcopal church carried 317 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:39,960 Speaker 1: out tables and chairs, packed food onto trucks, and folded 318 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:42,800 Speaker 1: portable cots. So it continues to go in painting all 319 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:46,640 Speaker 1: the people in Martha's vineyard with a great light, despite 320 00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:50,400 Speaker 1: the fact that they literally said they're a sanctuary city 321 00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:53,320 Speaker 1: and then shipped these people right off to the military 322 00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:55,680 Speaker 1: base and got rid of them as fast as they could. 323 00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:59,280 Speaker 1: So I thought this headline was epic and hilarious, so 324 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:02,640 Speaker 1: obviously how to ask them about it? It's just so 325 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:05,720 Speaker 1: amazing they can teach us all a lesson in compassion? 326 00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:09,720 Speaker 1: Can the rich denizens of Martha's Vineyard? Hey, and this 327 00:18:09,720 --> 00:18:12,160 Speaker 1: this thing is so layered in deep and I think 328 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:14,280 Speaker 1: Tuckers did an amazing job last week laying this out. 329 00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:16,359 Speaker 1: But in the end, we want to mock them, and 330 00:18:16,400 --> 00:18:19,680 Speaker 1: we should mock them because they're shallow frauds, their virtues 331 00:18:19,800 --> 00:18:26,080 Speaker 1: signaling frauds. However, they're not wrong to ship the Venezuelan 332 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:29,600 Speaker 1: illegal immigrants off of Martha's Vineyard at the end of 333 00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:33,879 Speaker 1: their forty four hour stay. Um, they're not wrong to 334 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:37,879 Speaker 1: say this is our community and this is the vision 335 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:41,199 Speaker 1: of our community. The problem is, why do they not 336 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:45,800 Speaker 1: extend that same right and privilege to America. Why do 337 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:50,880 Speaker 1: they not extend that same right and privileged to Brownsville 338 00:18:50,960 --> 00:18:54,760 Speaker 1: and Del Rio and Del Passo. We don't have the services, 339 00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:58,280 Speaker 1: we don't have the infrastructure Martha's Vineyard. Yeah, well neither 340 00:18:58,400 --> 00:19:01,520 Speaker 1: does Del Rio. And just because Del Rio is more 341 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:04,719 Speaker 1: middle class or Del Rio is. Oh my gosh, are 342 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:09,160 Speaker 1: we revealing some racism here? Del Rio is n Latino itself. 343 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:13,320 Speaker 1: It's more acceptable for you to ship them back to Texas, 344 00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:16,480 Speaker 1: you know. I guess in in the days of Marie 345 00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:18,160 Speaker 1: and try And it was let them eat cake in 346 00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:21,120 Speaker 1: two in the days of Martha's Vineyards, just let them 347 00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:25,560 Speaker 1: live in El Passo, I don't. I just let America 348 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:28,960 Speaker 1: have the same rights that you do in Martha's vineyard. 349 00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:32,399 Speaker 1: Governor Rhonda Santas is obviously the best I have a 350 00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:35,800 Speaker 1: florid in, so I'm biased, but he is America's governor, 351 00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:38,440 Speaker 1: so I just asked him what he thought more broadly 352 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:43,399 Speaker 1: about this brilliant move from governor to Santas. Really well played. 353 00:19:43,720 --> 00:19:46,760 Speaker 1: He didn't just send them to a rich clave. He 354 00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:50,040 Speaker 1: sent them to a rich enclave that's literally surrounded by water, 355 00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:52,760 Speaker 1: so it has its own version of a border wall. 356 00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:57,840 Speaker 1: It has an off season where of the homes remain vacant, 357 00:19:57,960 --> 00:20:00,280 Speaker 1: so you don't really have a housing crisis east for 358 00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:04,880 Speaker 1: the winter. These Venezuelans could have wintered on Martha's vineyard. Um, 359 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:07,560 Speaker 1: but okay, genius, and I'm a big fan as well 360 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:10,920 Speaker 1: of Martha's fingered, I mean Rhonda santis Um and never 361 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:14,200 Speaker 1: been to Martha's feard um. But we have to solve 362 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:17,520 Speaker 1: this problem, okay, And so he's done a great job 363 00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:20,800 Speaker 1: of spotlighting the issue of exhibiting the hypocrisies. But we 364 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:23,600 Speaker 1: also have to ask our own Republican politicians to do 365 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:26,600 Speaker 1: everything in their own power to solve this problem. And 366 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:28,520 Speaker 1: that leads us to a conversation which just happened on 367 00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:31,119 Speaker 1: Fox and Friends this weekend. We had the Lieutenant Governor 368 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:34,720 Speaker 1: Texas Stan Patrick on. And you know, there's a school 369 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:36,920 Speaker 1: of thought out there that these states and these governors 370 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:41,520 Speaker 1: can declare under constitutional authority on invasion, and if that's 371 00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:44,560 Speaker 1: the case, they can remove illegal immigrants not across state 372 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:47,240 Speaker 1: lines to the likes of New York, Chicago, DC, or 373 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:49,520 Speaker 1: Martha's vineyard, but they can remove them back to their 374 00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:52,720 Speaker 1: place of origin, back to Mexico. Now, it would it 375 00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:56,120 Speaker 1: would domino a whole host of problems, Lisa, a constitutional crisis, 376 00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:59,520 Speaker 1: maybe even federal law enforcement and local law enforcement squaring 377 00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:03,960 Speaker 1: off against one another. But if we're serious about solving 378 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:07,440 Speaker 1: this issue, and we know that the Biden administration, Democrats 379 00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:10,919 Speaker 1: will not, they will not solve it. Thus, you know, handcuffing. 380 00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:12,960 Speaker 1: What we can do federally, we're gonna have to ask 381 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:16,919 Speaker 1: our state politicians to do everything under their power. So 382 00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:19,720 Speaker 1: we've got people coming in from around the world because 383 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:21,760 Speaker 1: we have an open border, So why wouldn't they We're 384 00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:24,800 Speaker 1: not even a sovereign nation anymore. We have no idea 385 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:27,119 Speaker 1: who we're letting in. We brought a bunch of Afghans 386 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:31,440 Speaker 1: into that we didn't thoroughly a vent. So how what 387 00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:36,200 Speaker 1: risks to a terror threat are we as a country? 388 00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:40,400 Speaker 1: And also if you saw the article and brape Art recently, 389 00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:46,560 Speaker 1: apparently Maduro and Venezuela is letting out prisoners and having 390 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:50,240 Speaker 1: them come to the United States. Well, we've already seen 391 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:53,000 Speaker 1: that for sure. We've already seen increased in criminal activity, 392 00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:55,320 Speaker 1: and that's terrifying. I saw that article as well, where 393 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:58,399 Speaker 1: Maduro's emptying the prisons and saying head north, um, and 394 00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:01,199 Speaker 1: we've seen Venezuelans can make their way into the country, 395 00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:04,520 Speaker 1: as can everybody, as could you know, terrorists from Iran. 396 00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:07,399 Speaker 1: You know, it's it's a wide open border. It's not 397 00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:10,560 Speaker 1: hard to cross, and then it's not hard to stay. 398 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:14,080 Speaker 1: I don't remember the latest numbers on how many known terrorists, 399 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:16,320 Speaker 1: people on the terror watch list have been encountered. I 400 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:19,040 Speaker 1: think it's fifty sixty somewhere in that range in the 401 00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:22,080 Speaker 1: last fiscal year. And so we know this is a 402 00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:26,520 Speaker 1: massive threat to our security um and clearly Madurou intends 403 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:30,200 Speaker 1: to make it a bigger threat. It's inevitable to your question, 404 00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:33,840 Speaker 1: it is inevitable at some point that we will have 405 00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:39,080 Speaker 1: a terrorist attack because of the the lack of enforcement 406 00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:41,399 Speaker 1: of our southern border. And now, of course there's criminal 407 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:44,639 Speaker 1: investigations that are being launched into what governor to Santists did. 408 00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:50,480 Speaker 1: You have some clown in Texas, some local sheriff there 409 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:55,800 Speaker 1: launching a chronal investigation into what governor to Santist did. 410 00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:58,800 Speaker 1: You've got people like Gavin news Some calling for the 411 00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:02,720 Speaker 1: FEDS to investigate. But I guess it wasn't human trafficking 412 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:07,680 Speaker 1: when it wasn't kidnapping when Joe Biden was loading these 413 00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:09,879 Speaker 1: people up on planes and dropping them off in the 414 00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:13,159 Speaker 1: middle of the night in Florida. I guess it wasn't 415 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:17,480 Speaker 1: kidnapping when Laurie Lightfoot put them on busses and sent 416 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:20,920 Speaker 1: them to the next neighborhood over. But it is when 417 00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:23,880 Speaker 1: Governor run de Santis does it well, I mean, you're 418 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:26,080 Speaker 1: exactly right. An if they go after de Santis, then 419 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:28,680 Speaker 1: you have to go over there after the Republican governor 420 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:31,720 Speaker 1: Massachusetts who used the National Guard right to ship them 421 00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:35,119 Speaker 1: from Martha's Vineyard to Cape cod wouldn't that be human 422 00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:38,440 Speaker 1: trafficking for kidnapping or as you pointed out Lori lightfoot 423 00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:41,359 Speaker 1: moving a llegal immigrants from one neighbor into another. Or 424 00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:44,000 Speaker 1: the Democratic mayor of El Passo who sent something like 425 00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:48,440 Speaker 1: fifty buses to to New York and d C in Chicago. 426 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:52,560 Speaker 1: This is what that reveals. Though it's also like they 427 00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:55,080 Speaker 1: don't even focus on Greg Abbott. Actually they're focused only 428 00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:57,840 Speaker 1: on Rhonda Santis, which just shows again it's all about 429 00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:00,320 Speaker 1: politics taking him down because he's clearly the outside of 430 00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:03,920 Speaker 1: Donald Trump, the front runner for the Republican nominee for president. 431 00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:06,760 Speaker 1: I mean, if if if that weren't the motivation, they 432 00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:09,560 Speaker 1: would focus more on Greg Abbott, but they're not because 433 00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:12,800 Speaker 1: it's about politics. You know, there's another thing, there's another 434 00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:15,679 Speaker 1: part of this that nobody really wants to talk about. 435 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:19,640 Speaker 1: Um talk about I guess bring brave to have a conversation. 436 00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:23,040 Speaker 1: No one's willing to talk about. But um, it's not 437 00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:25,960 Speaker 1: just a threat to our national security, it's a threat. 438 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:28,400 Speaker 1: It's an existential threat to the United States of America. 439 00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:33,399 Speaker 1: In this way, you have unfettered flow of people from 440 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:37,440 Speaker 1: across the world who we extend all empathy and understanding 441 00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:41,320 Speaker 1: to their personal plight, bring with them the culture of 442 00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:44,159 Speaker 1: where they come from where they come. And there's a 443 00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:46,480 Speaker 1: new book coming out. I just saw this about this. Um, 444 00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:49,000 Speaker 1: I forget it. I'm forgetting the name of the book 445 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:50,440 Speaker 1: off the top of my head. It comes out in November. 446 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:56,600 Speaker 1: But the premises that generations of of immigration reveal that 447 00:24:56,760 --> 00:25:01,720 Speaker 1: people retain their culture of origin as opposed to assimilation 448 00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:06,680 Speaker 1: and adoption of the culture of their new home. Okay, 449 00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:10,159 Speaker 1: so America's a melting pot or whatever. We are by design, 450 00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:11,720 Speaker 1: and the idea behind that is that we take the 451 00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:14,080 Speaker 1: best of all cultures from immigrants, and then we are 452 00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:16,919 Speaker 1: the sorting mechanism that makes the super strong culture by 453 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:20,280 Speaker 1: taking the best of everybody. But that is from the 454 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:25,000 Speaker 1: from its inception, that has been a calculation that we've 455 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:27,560 Speaker 1: had immigration quotas, we have a legal process all of 456 00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:30,879 Speaker 1: that because yes, we want to we have a limited 457 00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:33,560 Speaker 1: set of resources, and we can only accommodate so many 458 00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:37,000 Speaker 1: at one time. But also because and people, this is 459 00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:40,800 Speaker 1: what people don't want to accept. There is an American culture. 460 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:45,000 Speaker 1: We have a culture, a work ethic um, a Judeo 461 00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:49,480 Speaker 1: Christian culture. We have all kinds of cultural traits embedded 462 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:53,760 Speaker 1: into what it means to be an American risk tolerance, entrepreneurialism, 463 00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:57,240 Speaker 1: and that has led us to being the dominant culture 464 00:25:57,359 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 1: on the planet. It's the one that puts man on 465 00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:03,320 Speaker 1: the moon. And and that culture deserves to be not 466 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:07,159 Speaker 1: just respected, but to be retained. And when you have 467 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:11,840 Speaker 1: unfettered illegal immigration to megan encounters in this fiscal year, 468 00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:15,840 Speaker 1: and that's again known encounters, what you do is you 469 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:21,760 Speaker 1: fundamentally change the culture of America. And somehow that's that's 470 00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:25,360 Speaker 1: come off as that comes off as xenophobic or jingoistic 471 00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:30,000 Speaker 1: or forbid racist, you know, the ultimate cudgel to shut 472 00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:32,600 Speaker 1: down this conversation. But every culture is allowed to have 473 00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:35,320 Speaker 1: pride in its own, its own way of life. Everyone 474 00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:40,080 Speaker 1: is the French, you know, the Irish, um, the Jamaican culture. 475 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:43,520 Speaker 1: Everyone is allowed to have that conversation except for America, Like, 476 00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:46,400 Speaker 1: we don't have a culture. And if we do. It's 477 00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:50,879 Speaker 1: somehow supremacist or or wrong. We have a culture and 478 00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:52,879 Speaker 1: we have to retain it. It happens to be the 479 00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:55,720 Speaker 1: most successful culture on the planet. I wanted to play 480 00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:58,000 Speaker 1: this clip from the interview. I did that. Hopefully you 481 00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:03,240 Speaker 1: guys listened to with Maximo of theres about communism being 482 00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:06,000 Speaker 1: in America. So I asked, well, I played the clip 483 00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:07,639 Speaker 1: for will and then I wanted to hear what he 484 00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:11,400 Speaker 1: had to think of. You know, how do you how 485 00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:15,240 Speaker 1: do you see this? Shouldn't we listen to these people 486 00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:20,040 Speaker 1: like Maximo who escaped communist Cuba, when he's warning us 487 00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:24,520 Speaker 1: that communism is here and it has infiltrated all our institutions. 488 00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:28,560 Speaker 1: Shouldn't we listen? We have a dictatorship and it's right 489 00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:31,280 Speaker 1: now our eyes and people don't realize what is happening. 490 00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:34,600 Speaker 1: Wake up, America. I'm telling you this because I saw 491 00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:37,040 Speaker 1: it with my eyes. I saw how people are getting 492 00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:40,080 Speaker 1: murdered just simply because they didn't smile at the regime. 493 00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:43,320 Speaker 1: I saw how people get accused of being contract revolutionary. 494 00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:46,760 Speaker 1: It's just because they said something against the revolution is 495 00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:49,600 Speaker 1: happening here. These guys are telling you that we're the 496 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:53,320 Speaker 1: enemy because we are against freedom just because we don't 497 00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:58,679 Speaker 1: agree with their policies, their stupid policies. By the way, Yeah, 498 00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:02,160 Speaker 1: I think we should listen as well. You know, I've 499 00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:04,639 Speaker 1: always had this, I've had this debate internally, Lisa, and 500 00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:07,359 Speaker 1: I've had this conversation with friends, like how much of 501 00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:11,520 Speaker 1: what's happening in America is coordinated? So you say, I 502 00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:14,840 Speaker 1: think we're being overtaken with communism, And then I say, Okay, 503 00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:18,400 Speaker 1: how many of the people that are driving this cultural 504 00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:24,320 Speaker 1: and administrative and governmental shift in our country um overtly 505 00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:29,159 Speaker 1: by into Marxism have read the Communist Manifesto, are truly 506 00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:32,199 Speaker 1: adherents to communism? And I don't know the answer to 507 00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:35,440 Speaker 1: that question. I think that there's sort of an autopilot 508 00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:39,840 Speaker 1: of American culture and American governance. The in governance that 509 00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:43,280 Speaker 1: autopilot is the administrative state. I think it scares me 510 00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:46,800 Speaker 1: more than any particular politician, you know, it even scares 511 00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:49,680 Speaker 1: me more than any particular political party. It's what remains 512 00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:52,640 Speaker 1: when elections are won and lost. It's the FBI, the 513 00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:56,320 Speaker 1: d o J, It's that level of bureaucracy in every organization, 514 00:28:56,320 --> 00:29:01,040 Speaker 1: the CDC, the n i H. That really is the 515 00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:05,040 Speaker 1: culture of American governance. They they drive us in one direction, 516 00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:07,840 Speaker 1: and it's always in the direction of self empowerment, self justification, 517 00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:12,200 Speaker 1: self empowerment um. And then I think culturally, we have 518 00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:15,880 Speaker 1: found ourselves popular culture in a place where people are 519 00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:23,840 Speaker 1: more entitled, um, you know, more victimized, less responsible, and 520 00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:27,719 Speaker 1: that lends itself to sort of this cultural communism. If 521 00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:29,840 Speaker 1: you have one group of people that have self justification 522 00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:31,720 Speaker 1: for power, and you have another group of people who 523 00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:34,719 Speaker 1: want to aggregate their own responsibility, you have a perfect 524 00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:38,560 Speaker 1: cocktail for a society that resembles communism, whether or not 525 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:41,200 Speaker 1: it's there overtly or not. And so I think you 526 00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:43,640 Speaker 1: end up in the same place. To answer my internal 527 00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:46,520 Speaker 1: debate like is it a coordinated campaign? And by the way, 528 00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:48,600 Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's not a coordinated campaign, because when 529 00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:51,560 Speaker 1: I see government in big tech collude to censor, where 530 00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:53,360 Speaker 1: I see the role of the communist Chinese Party at 531 00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:56,360 Speaker 1: every levels of American society, I think there are definitely 532 00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:59,920 Speaker 1: elements of coordination, but I'm not sure there's one particular 533 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:03,360 Speaker 1: ideology or one particular man behind the curtain. I'm more 534 00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:07,960 Speaker 1: concerned that our entire machine is on autopilot in this 535 00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:12,280 Speaker 1: direction that resembles communism. Robert Colly with the Trafalgar Group 536 00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:15,120 Speaker 1: has been bringing attention to this new group of voters 537 00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:18,320 Speaker 1: called submerged voters, of people who aren't putting stickers in 538 00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:21,760 Speaker 1: their cars, signs of their yards, posting their opinions online, 539 00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:25,400 Speaker 1: or even answering polls, and that this election is going 540 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:27,600 Speaker 1: to be a hard one to capture because of all this. 541 00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:31,720 Speaker 1: So how does Will think the mid term elections are 542 00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:34,440 Speaker 1: going to go down? I think Republicans are still gonna win. 543 00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:37,880 Speaker 1: I think they're gonna win strongly in November, despite the 544 00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:41,920 Speaker 1: fact that polls show that the whole thing is tightening up. 545 00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:43,880 Speaker 1: And I guess most people attribute that tightening up to 546 00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:48,480 Speaker 1: the Dobbs decision and to the focus on Donald Trump 547 00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:52,920 Speaker 1: as opposed to inflation and rising crime and illegal immigration. 548 00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:55,680 Speaker 1: But I still think despite all that, Republicans are gonna 549 00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:59,920 Speaker 1: win and win big in November. Well, people tell the truth. 550 00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:04,400 Speaker 1: Are people afraid? Have they been Has has the conversation 551 00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:09,000 Speaker 1: been painted as you're either, you know, in this mainstream 552 00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:11,800 Speaker 1: school of thought with lends itself to democratic politics, or 553 00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:14,400 Speaker 1: you're a semi fascist and so have they accepted that's 554 00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:17,480 Speaker 1: the paradigm. They have to be quiet, um, so they're 555 00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:21,520 Speaker 1: not painted as a semi fascist. Maybe I think people 556 00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:25,120 Speaker 1: have I think people there's still a dominant that there's 557 00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:28,800 Speaker 1: still a dominant narrative that where we started this conversation. 558 00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:31,200 Speaker 1: It allows the Scott Pelly's of the world to pretend 559 00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:34,959 Speaker 1: that Joe Biden is in that dominant you know, channel 560 00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:40,040 Speaker 1: of the river. Um, what's Here's what I would ask you, 561 00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:45,040 Speaker 1: what's extreme about current Republicanism That what's extreme about Trump is? Um, 562 00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:47,200 Speaker 1: what's extreme about the new Right? I think that's an 563 00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:49,760 Speaker 1: interesting question because I can't think of a single thing, 564 00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:52,400 Speaker 1: you know, Joe Biden's gonna say they're semi fascist or 565 00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:55,320 Speaker 1: threats to democracy. I would like to know, because then 566 00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:57,560 Speaker 1: if I look at what the Republican Party has done 567 00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:00,840 Speaker 1: under the influence of Donald Trump, I think it's moderated, 568 00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:06,440 Speaker 1: like moderated greatly. It's positioned back towards the center on 569 00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:11,920 Speaker 1: free trade, less libertarian, you know, far far you know, 570 00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:16,040 Speaker 1: spectrum thought on unfettered free trade. Rising tide lifts all 571 00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:18,560 Speaker 1: boats now more, a greater concern for populism in the 572 00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:21,720 Speaker 1: middle class and the jobs of the middle class. Obviously, 573 00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:23,920 Speaker 1: when it comes to China, understanding that that's not a 574 00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:28,800 Speaker 1: free trade game. So moving moving. I think on gay marriage, 575 00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:30,880 Speaker 1: for example, I don't know where it stands today, but 576 00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:32,960 Speaker 1: over the last ten years certainly moderated. Donald Trump was 577 00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:37,320 Speaker 1: pretty moderate on that. So I just keep like, immigration, well, 578 00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:39,760 Speaker 1: I don't know, that wasn't an extreme position to say, 579 00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:42,320 Speaker 1: well we ought to have borders and enforce those borders. 580 00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:44,800 Speaker 1: That didn't used to be extreme. I'm just trying to 581 00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:49,480 Speaker 1: figure out what's actually extreme that's being described as extreme. 582 00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:52,440 Speaker 1: If you want to say election denial, if that's what 583 00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:56,360 Speaker 1: the answer ends up being, well, when you're fed, you know, 584 00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:59,840 Speaker 1: five years worth of fake stories, you get to the 585 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:01,560 Speaker 1: into the book and you're like, should I believe the 586 00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:04,520 Speaker 1: last chapter two? You know, I just don't know. I 587 00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:09,120 Speaker 1: don't know what is extreme. Um, it seems like it's 588 00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:12,320 Speaker 1: actually more independent, moderate than it's ever been before. Will 589 00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:15,040 Speaker 1: came to Fox and Friends. He worked at ESPN, and 590 00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:17,800 Speaker 1: he was probably, you know, one of the low conservative 591 00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:22,520 Speaker 1: voices at the network. What was that like? Well, I 592 00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:25,760 Speaker 1: loved it, actually, Um, I mean was it all great? 593 00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:29,520 Speaker 1: But I know, you know, so I remember when Fox 594 00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:31,320 Speaker 1: News was founded, there was this quote is by George 595 00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:33,840 Speaker 1: will who I don't think likes Fox News now. But 596 00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:37,640 Speaker 1: George will Um said Roger Ails found a wonderful niche 597 00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:41,280 Speaker 1: when he founded Fox News half of America, which is 598 00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:44,560 Speaker 1: a wonderful nite right. I was sitting there at ESPN, going, 599 00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:46,640 Speaker 1: so let me get this straight. You guys are all 600 00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:52,040 Speaker 1: adopting these radical positions and opinions and in saying them 601 00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:54,400 Speaker 1: as though the country agrees with you on this, and 602 00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:57,480 Speaker 1: you're just gonna let me have all the rest of it, 603 00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:00,600 Speaker 1: Like by myself, I get to say say things and 604 00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:03,720 Speaker 1: rational things and have this lane by myself. I was like, 605 00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:08,439 Speaker 1: this is amazing. Um. But I mean, look at least 606 00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:10,719 Speaker 1: I like debating people who disagree with me. I like 607 00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:14,160 Speaker 1: hearing their points of view. I like having a relationships 608 00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:17,560 Speaker 1: that are not strictly defined by politics. I don't. I don't. 609 00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:21,520 Speaker 1: I don't require that all of my personal relationships share 610 00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:25,280 Speaker 1: my political opinions. And sports was a great a great 611 00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:29,120 Speaker 1: vehicle from which people could come together and have a relationship. So, 612 00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:31,640 Speaker 1: in other words, you know, whoever it may be, you 613 00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:34,680 Speaker 1: know Marcus Spears he played for the Cowboys for a 614 00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:36,239 Speaker 1: while and he was a commentary to ESPN I mean, 615 00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:38,600 Speaker 1: it's very clear he disagrees with me on almost everything. 616 00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:40,520 Speaker 1: But at the time I was there, that didn't stop 617 00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:43,440 Speaker 1: us from then transitioning into like guy talk and sports 618 00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:45,799 Speaker 1: talk and have a great time and have a great relation. 619 00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:48,240 Speaker 1: I think life should be like that. I think politics 620 00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:51,359 Speaker 1: should only be part of who you are. UM and 621 00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:54,319 Speaker 1: I got to have those conversations on a consistent basis. Now, 622 00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:57,480 Speaker 1: I will tell you there are I'm sure you know this, 623 00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:01,680 Speaker 1: the left, the the people that have the opinions of 624 00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:04,440 Speaker 1: those on the left don't agree with what I just said. 625 00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:08,320 Speaker 1: They do not think that I can have my opinions 626 00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:11,200 Speaker 1: and remain a good person, right, And therefore you can't 627 00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:15,200 Speaker 1: socialize with Will. You can't be around Will. And there 628 00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:18,880 Speaker 1: was some of that at ESPN, like I would walk 629 00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:21,400 Speaker 1: the hallways and I and I don't want to be unfair. 630 00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:23,719 Speaker 1: I made some guesses at the time about who might 631 00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:27,520 Speaker 1: harbor those thoughts, but I certainly felt it to some degree, 632 00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:31,359 Speaker 1: like there was some sentiment there of like there's that guy, 633 00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:33,800 Speaker 1: you know. But for the people that I would confin, 634 00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:36,640 Speaker 1: you know, interact with face to face, I loved it. 635 00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:38,680 Speaker 1: I love the opportunity on first taken debate Stephen A. 636 00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:43,359 Speaker 1: Smith and whatever else. Um. Yeah, for the most part, 637 00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:52,719 Speaker 1: I loved it quick break back with Wilcane. So I've 638 00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:57,759 Speaker 1: been finding myself having a hard time with big around Democrats, 639 00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:02,680 Speaker 1: a big accepting of Democrats. I've never used to be 640 00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:06,160 Speaker 1: like this. This really only happened recently, in part because 641 00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:08,120 Speaker 1: I just don't know how anyone can listen to Joe 642 00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:13,279 Speaker 1: Biden label seventy million people patriotic Americans as enemies of 643 00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:15,480 Speaker 1: the state. I mean, if you're a Democrat and you 644 00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:19,200 Speaker 1: have family members or friends who are Trump supporters, how 645 00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:21,160 Speaker 1: how can you still support this guy? How can you 646 00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:24,680 Speaker 1: sit by and sit back and think that what's going 647 00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:27,920 Speaker 1: on in the country is okay. So I wanted to 648 00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:31,400 Speaker 1: get Will's take about you know, what do you what 649 00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:33,360 Speaker 1: do you think of that? Are you know, are you 650 00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:36,759 Speaker 1: having trouble with this or how do you reconcile it? 651 00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:38,399 Speaker 1: Or how do you you know, how do you kind 652 00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:40,279 Speaker 1: of take a break from all this? You know, I 653 00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:42,640 Speaker 1: lived in New York for fifteen years. I'm back in Texas, 654 00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:45,640 Speaker 1: where I was born and raised, and I love so 655 00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:48,160 Speaker 1: many of my New York friends. I think almost not 656 00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:50,880 Speaker 1: all of them, but the vast majority of them disagreed 657 00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:53,799 Speaker 1: with me. Um. One of the things that you have 658 00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:56,799 Speaker 1: to like it's it's tough because I do think there 659 00:36:56,880 --> 00:37:00,200 Speaker 1: is a sentiment within liberalism of personal judgment. And so 660 00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:03,440 Speaker 1: you sit there and you go, well, how you're always 661 00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:06,040 Speaker 1: assuming the worst of me? How can we be friends? 662 00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:08,000 Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Like I kind of feel like, 663 00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:11,640 Speaker 1: are you questioning whatever your current thing is? Phobic of something? 664 00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:17,080 Speaker 1: You know, racist, homophobic, transphobic or whatever. It's like there's 665 00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:20,560 Speaker 1: this undercurrent sometimes of like you know, you're not saying 666 00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:22,640 Speaker 1: it out loud, but I feel like you're privately judging. 667 00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:26,000 Speaker 1: And that's not that sucks, Like always be around to 668 00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:29,000 Speaker 1: feel like you know someone's not trusting who you are. 669 00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:31,000 Speaker 1: They just happen to disagree with you. I'm not saying 670 00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:33,080 Speaker 1: my friends all did that, but I do think that's 671 00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:35,800 Speaker 1: a common thing and in that type of even to 672 00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:38,520 Speaker 1: live in that type of place. And then you add 673 00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:41,160 Speaker 1: on top of it this whole thing about your own 674 00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:46,400 Speaker 1: personal health choices, right, and it becomes pretty untenable. But 675 00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:47,719 Speaker 1: I do want to try my best. I want to 676 00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:50,880 Speaker 1: always have friends. I just I don't want that to 677 00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:54,920 Speaker 1: be my primary sorting mechanism for my friendships. I just 678 00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:58,160 Speaker 1: I don't want that to be if if I don't know, 679 00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:01,279 Speaker 1: I don't want politics. It's very important to me, like 680 00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:07,040 Speaker 1: especially culturally, like who are we? Who are Americans? What's 681 00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:09,480 Speaker 1: it mean to be a man? I'm raising two sons. 682 00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:12,759 Speaker 1: All of these things very important to me. I don't 683 00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:16,520 Speaker 1: want that to become personally for me. Well you have 684 00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:18,840 Speaker 1: to vote this way or if you vote that way, 685 00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:21,799 Speaker 1: then I can't explore those other aspects of you in 686 00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:25,880 Speaker 1: what it means to be friends and share values. So 687 00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:28,960 Speaker 1: it's telling well this story about how when I was 688 00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:33,080 Speaker 1: in New York, I went to this restaurant outside and 689 00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:36,640 Speaker 1: I wasn't wearing a mask because I'm not a crazy 690 00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:39,839 Speaker 1: person and masks don't work, and they certainly don't work outside, 691 00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:44,440 Speaker 1: nor is COVID really spread outside. So I walked up 692 00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:47,200 Speaker 1: to this restaurant not wearing a mask. The hostess said 693 00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:50,000 Speaker 1: you have to wear your mask, and I was like, well, 694 00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:52,600 Speaker 1: these people eating outside aren't wearing masks. And she was like, 695 00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:56,640 Speaker 1: well there was either eating, to which I responded, you know, 696 00:38:56,719 --> 00:39:00,000 Speaker 1: just so we're clear, you know that COVID like doesn't 697 00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:03,640 Speaker 1: differentiate between oh you're eating you're a cool but you're 698 00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:07,719 Speaker 1: standing I'm gonna get you. And I finally like, war 699 00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:09,799 Speaker 1: I just because she was asking me, like please, it's 700 00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:11,399 Speaker 1: my job, so I didn't want to, you know, get 701 00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:13,000 Speaker 1: her in trouble or whatever. So I finally put off. 702 00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:15,719 Speaker 1: But I was like, but just so we're clear, we 703 00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:19,800 Speaker 1: know that this is all b s. And I was 704 00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:22,400 Speaker 1: also telling a story about another dude in my building 705 00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:25,640 Speaker 1: who always yells at everyone who doesn't wear a mask, 706 00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:27,400 Speaker 1: which is most people that live here because we live 707 00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:30,799 Speaker 1: in Florida, and again, we're not crazy, we're free. And 708 00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:32,880 Speaker 1: this guy is always yelling at everyone. So I just 709 00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:34,719 Speaker 1: turned him one day and I said, you know what, 710 00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:38,719 Speaker 1: do you believe in the efficacy of masks? And he goes, oh, 711 00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:41,480 Speaker 1: of course I do. That's why I wear one, to 712 00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:45,600 Speaker 1: which I responded, then you should be fine. Leave us alone, 713 00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:51,200 Speaker 1: little victory. Um. You know, I will say, we're see, 714 00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:53,480 Speaker 1: we're It'll be interesting now that Joe Biden said the 715 00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:56,600 Speaker 1: pandemic is over, but we're clearly like this is the 716 00:39:56,719 --> 00:39:58,960 Speaker 1: end of the zombie movie and there's not many zombies 717 00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:01,359 Speaker 1: left on the street, like they're people are waking up, 718 00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:03,080 Speaker 1: or at least they're going back to some extent to 719 00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:06,239 Speaker 1: their normal life. But because I travel so much at 720 00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:08,680 Speaker 1: the airports or on the airplane or on the streets 721 00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:11,480 Speaker 1: of New York, there are still people right walking around 722 00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:14,160 Speaker 1: outside with with masks on. And one, the one that 723 00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:16,279 Speaker 1: always blows my mind is with like cloth masks on. 724 00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:18,960 Speaker 1: I'm like, what happened to you? Like that? You didn't 725 00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:21,319 Speaker 1: like every step of the way, you didn't get the 726 00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:25,680 Speaker 1: memos right, so you're liking, You're like, in April, what 727 00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:28,600 Speaker 1: are you doing with that cloth mask on? But what 728 00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:31,920 Speaker 1: I'm really shocked by is sometimes it kind of feels 729 00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:36,080 Speaker 1: often they're young, they're healthy, Like I've seen some, for example, 730 00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:38,720 Speaker 1: some dudes that clearly work out and you're in good shape, 731 00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:41,080 Speaker 1: and you're in your thirties maybe early thirties, and I'm like, 732 00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:44,120 Speaker 1: why are you wearing that mask? Like what now? And 733 00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:46,560 Speaker 1: sometimes I think to myself, maybe to have a really 734 00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:50,960 Speaker 1: serious health condition I'm not aware of. But more likely 735 00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:54,600 Speaker 1: than not, where they are unhealthy at this point is 736 00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:57,799 Speaker 1: in their minds. And so you're looking at the back 737 00:40:57,800 --> 00:40:59,400 Speaker 1: to what we're some about earlier, like the cost of 738 00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:02,000 Speaker 1: all of this nonsense. You're look at a lot of 739 00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:05,319 Speaker 1: people who have really poisoned and lost their minds. So 740 00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:08,040 Speaker 1: my mom always tells me that you don't always have 741 00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:12,520 Speaker 1: to say everything you think, yet I still do it. 742 00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:17,520 Speaker 1: But I was telling Will about that, and then I 743 00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:21,120 Speaker 1: just also asked him, you know, he's a father, what's 744 00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:23,879 Speaker 1: your favorite thing about being a dad? Okay, I'm gonna 745 00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:27,440 Speaker 1: answer that question, but I think that uh So, I'm 746 00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:31,399 Speaker 1: a big believer that your greatest strength is your greatest weakness, right, 747 00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:33,280 Speaker 1: So you just said that for yourself and your career, 748 00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:35,360 Speaker 1: Like you you don't have to say every thought that 749 00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:38,600 Speaker 1: comes to your mind, right, So it's it's your strength, 750 00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:42,360 Speaker 1: it's also your weakness, right, So, like, I think every 751 00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:44,640 Speaker 1: part of our personalities can be explained that way. So 752 00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:47,920 Speaker 1: probably the same with fatherhood for me. I don't know. 753 00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:51,440 Speaker 1: I just I love the process of helping these two 754 00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:54,279 Speaker 1: young boys become men, Like I just love it, like 755 00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:58,320 Speaker 1: and that's a little selfish because it's like, well, you're 756 00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:00,600 Speaker 1: your favorite part of father That is like joy sticking 757 00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:03,440 Speaker 1: them by teaching them lessons, giving them sermons, which I 758 00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:06,200 Speaker 1: do way too much, Lisa, way too much, and I 759 00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:09,120 Speaker 1: focus way too much on sports, not because I think 760 00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:11,759 Speaker 1: they're gonna be professional athletes or Division one athletes or 761 00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:15,680 Speaker 1: collegiate athletes, but because it's the perfect metaphor and vehicle 762 00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:18,799 Speaker 1: to help them travel the path of what it is 763 00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:21,719 Speaker 1: to be a man. And I just love it. This 764 00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:25,080 Speaker 1: this one of my sons, and he had a great weekend. 765 00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:27,560 Speaker 1: You know, I think it's cool. I'm a little hesitant 766 00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:30,360 Speaker 1: to share family stuff. I don't know, I don't I 767 00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:31,799 Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know what the right amount is. 768 00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:34,280 Speaker 1: But one of my sons had had a great weekend. 769 00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:36,640 Speaker 1: He asked a girl to homecoming and he went to 770 00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:39,120 Speaker 1: her house. He went to her house and you know, 771 00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:40,799 Speaker 1: and he had to It's almost that now they do 772 00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:43,520 Speaker 1: at least like a marriage proposal. It's insane, at least 773 00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:46,880 Speaker 1: in Texas. You know, it's insane. Um. And he had 774 00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:48,680 Speaker 1: a great sports weekend where just kind of like he 775 00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:51,279 Speaker 1: woke up in so many ways and he saw the 776 00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:55,560 Speaker 1: field and he played amazing. And um, I don't care 777 00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:57,839 Speaker 1: if he's the best player on the field. I don't 778 00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:00,399 Speaker 1: care in the end if you start, so I don't 779 00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:03,920 Speaker 1: care what team he's on. But to see him like 780 00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:07,640 Speaker 1: become what I know he can become is just my 781 00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:10,480 Speaker 1: favorite part of fatherhood and I love being with them 782 00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:13,080 Speaker 1: on that process, like going to I'm gonna go to 783 00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:15,440 Speaker 1: practice tonight. That's what I'm gonna do. Because I'm in 784 00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:17,160 Speaker 1: New York every weekend. I don't get to see games, 785 00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:18,920 Speaker 1: but I'll go to practice and we'll talk about it 786 00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:21,359 Speaker 1: on the way home and then, you know, I don't know, 787 00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:23,839 Speaker 1: it's just it's my favorite thing. I don't know, it's 788 00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:26,440 Speaker 1: in and it's better than anything, to be honest, just 789 00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:28,640 Speaker 1: better than professional sports. Not just the best thing about 790 00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:31,759 Speaker 1: father for me, it's the best thing about life right now, 791 00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:34,440 Speaker 1: which you know, I should probably put some other priorities 792 00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:37,600 Speaker 1: above that. It's so fulfilling and it's just so important. 793 00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:40,000 Speaker 1: It's fulfilling on an individual level and so important on 794 00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:43,040 Speaker 1: a societal level. I don't know, I mean I need 795 00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:45,480 Speaker 1: to work on I mean, I'll be open with you. 796 00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:49,840 Speaker 1: You know, I could be more attemptive than and um devoted, 797 00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:53,799 Speaker 1: not devote, I'm devoted, but doting, um husband. I could 798 00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:56,600 Speaker 1: definitely be better at that. You know, I could definitely 799 00:43:56,600 --> 00:43:59,120 Speaker 1: work on my relationship with God, which is a path 800 00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:02,239 Speaker 1: that I mean, I've openly talked about this, like you know, 801 00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:05,520 Speaker 1: I would never pretend to be a person who has 802 00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:08,040 Speaker 1: the ability to sermonize to other people because I'm I'm 803 00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:11,480 Speaker 1: working on it myself, right, but there are things that 804 00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:14,439 Speaker 1: I should give more focus to. But the parenting thing, 805 00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:18,239 Speaker 1: like and not again, not that I'm doing it. I'm 806 00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:21,279 Speaker 1: not batting a thousand on this thing well below, but 807 00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:24,080 Speaker 1: I certainly love every opportunity at the at the plate 808 00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:27,120 Speaker 1: of parenting. And of course, to Will's point, you know, 809 00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:30,280 Speaker 1: we can all work on things that we could do better. 810 00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:33,120 Speaker 1: I was joking around with him that, you know, I 811 00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:36,600 Speaker 1: could do like an hour long confessional podcast about the 812 00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:39,080 Speaker 1: things I need to work on in my life and 813 00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:41,480 Speaker 1: how to be a better person and all of that. 814 00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:45,319 Speaker 1: But uh, and then we said goodbye, as one does 815 00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:59,920 Speaker 1: when they end of podcasts. Thank you, Lisa. That's that's 816 00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:02,279 Speaker 1: I'm so blumed that you guys didn't get it here. 817 00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:05,719 Speaker 1: The live discussion and the back and forth between us, 818 00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:07,879 Speaker 1: it was so much fun. He's such a great guy. 819 00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:12,160 Speaker 1: But you know, life happens, things happen, and technology it 820 00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:15,160 Speaker 1: can suck sometimes, so it is what it is. But 821 00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:17,000 Speaker 1: I want to thank you guys for listening, and we'll 822 00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:19,680 Speaker 1: have it back on in a couple of months from now, 823 00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:22,520 Speaker 1: and hopefully no technical glitches then, so you can kind 824 00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:26,880 Speaker 1: of get the full interview. 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