WEBVTT - Episode 424 w/ Mad Skillz 0:00:11.840 --> 0:00:14.160 It is Drake Chans Mother Bucky podcast man. 0:00:15.000 --> 0:00:18.200 He's a legendary queens rapper. He's agreed as your boy 0:00:18.239 --> 0:00:20.799 in O r E. He's a Miami hip hop lion. 0:00:20.880 --> 0:00:22.680 There put up his dj e f N. 0:00:22.840 --> 0:00:25.720 Together they drink it up with some of the biggest players, 0:00:25.720 --> 0:00:26.439 you know what I mean, and. 0:00:26.520 --> 0:00:29.760 The most professional unprofessional. 0:00:29.000 --> 0:00:32.519 Podcast and your number one source for drunk Chans Mother 0:00:33.200 --> 0:00:35.960 every day is new. Ye see that it's time for 0:00:36.159 --> 0:00:38.600 drink champions. Drink up motherfuck Mother. 0:00:43.680 --> 0:00:45.559 Would a good be Hoby Swiss is your boy in 0:00:45.640 --> 0:00:46.120 O r E? 0:00:46.320 --> 0:00:47.680 What up his dj e f N? 0:00:47.800 --> 0:00:50.600 This mithle Tapa crazy world Yeppiyawa make some of that. 0:00:54.480 --> 0:00:54.960 Right now? 0:00:55.560 --> 0:00:57.920 You know what this brother was doing very early on 0:00:57.960 --> 0:01:01.560 the show, and our audience is banded it So if 0:01:01.600 --> 0:01:05.199 we hear us reiterate some questions from earlier, it's because 0:01:05.400 --> 0:01:06.520 our audience suspended. 0:01:06.560 --> 0:01:09.600 But let's just drunk who this brother is. 0:01:10.360 --> 0:01:14.840 When you when you say lyricists, when you say icon, 0:01:15.480 --> 0:01:18.480 when you say legend, when you say your favorite ghost 0:01:18.480 --> 0:01:24.759 writer's favorite ghost writer, he could dj We're gonna find 0:01:24.800 --> 0:01:29.040 out for real? Is he gonna really put that mic down? 0:01:29.400 --> 0:01:31.240 I made a segment just for him. Because I watched 0:01:31.319 --> 0:01:35.280 him at the Beans Awards. I kept saying, damn, he 0:01:35.400 --> 0:01:38.440 still got it. Every bar he kept saying and I 0:01:38.520 --> 0:01:41.600 kept saying he still got it. So I was like, Yo, 0:01:43.080 --> 0:01:45.280 I said, Yo, they said, skills is coming. I said, 0:01:45.280 --> 0:01:48.640 why don't we come up with a segment skill skill 0:01:48.760 --> 0:01:52.880 got it? In case you don't know what we're talking about, 0:01:53.160 --> 0:01:53.720 so mother. 0:01:53.640 --> 0:01:54.720 One only. 0:01:59.480 --> 0:02:02.120 It's still as skills a top. 0:02:02.400 --> 0:02:04.960 I want to ask this because this has been a very, 0:02:05.040 --> 0:02:07.200 very hot topic on drink Champs. 0:02:07.720 --> 0:02:09.960 It's a Virginia the side. Yo. 0:02:10.560 --> 0:02:15.840 We're talking about this because I mean people from Virginia 0:02:15.880 --> 0:02:18.120 that remind me of East Coast on the way. But 0:02:18.440 --> 0:02:21.040 this is people when I beat in Virginia that remind 0:02:21.040 --> 0:02:23.600 me of some real, real South Okay. 0:02:23.400 --> 0:02:26.840 I say, were right in the middle. Like like I'm 0:02:26.880 --> 0:02:28.880 gonna say the same thing I said before. We right 0:02:28.919 --> 0:02:31.960 in the middle. So it's like we get a little 0:02:32.040 --> 0:02:34.760 bit of the East Coast. I was heavily East Coast influence. 0:02:34.800 --> 0:02:36.480 You could you could tell you know what I'm saying, 0:02:36.919 --> 0:02:38.840 But we right right there in the middle. 0:02:38.880 --> 0:02:41.160 So and you got all of the HBCUs. 0:02:41.200 --> 0:02:43.600 So most of the people end up going to schools 0:02:43.840 --> 0:02:46.280 and you gotta you know, you have to listen to DJs. 0:02:46.320 --> 0:02:47.359 Had to play a South set. 0:02:47.360 --> 0:02:49.560 They got played in New York set, they got played 0:02:49.560 --> 0:02:51.720 an ATL set, you know what I mean. They got 0:02:51.760 --> 0:02:55.520 played the LA set. So you heard so much music. Historically, 0:02:55.840 --> 0:02:58.280 it was the capitol, Yeah, Confederate it was. 0:02:58.560 --> 0:03:00.800 It was the capital of the claim that ship. 0:03:03.280 --> 0:03:05.640 But it was it was the second biggest I want 0:03:05.639 --> 0:03:08.560 to say, second or third biggest, like where the slaves were, 0:03:08.600 --> 0:03:11.600 Like it was more slaves dead than anyway Turner where 0:03:11.680 --> 0:03:14.760 all that rebellion and all that happened right right down 0:03:14.760 --> 0:03:15.359 in Virginia. 0:03:16.200 --> 0:03:17.560 Now turn was in Virginia. 0:03:17.600 --> 0:03:20.839 Yeah, we killed all them white people. Yeah, I've seen 0:03:20.840 --> 0:03:23.320 the movie too. Yeah that was I passed it all 0:03:23.360 --> 0:03:27.320 the time. Yeah, it happened down there right. 0:03:27.800 --> 0:03:32.200 So you being, you know, a liri cool giant. 0:03:32.919 --> 0:03:39.720 We just I say, we witnessed one of the greatest battles. 0:03:41.640 --> 0:03:43.800 I could say up all time. Because let me just 0:03:43.840 --> 0:03:44.240 tell you why. 0:03:44.360 --> 0:03:46.720 Okay, I'm not I'm not talking about the disrespect. 0:03:47.240 --> 0:03:49.160 I'm not talking about the bars. 0:03:49.200 --> 0:03:53.880 I'm actually talking about the acknowledgement. Like I don't care 0:03:53.920 --> 0:03:56.320 where I was at, I could have. 0:03:56.320 --> 0:04:02.560 Been in an Indian stretch parlor rightwt yoga, doing sweat 0:04:02.640 --> 0:04:09.040 yoga and drinking drink like people have to drink speak English. 0:04:09.040 --> 0:04:11.160 So as far as to me, it's one of the 0:04:11.160 --> 0:04:13.920 greatest battles. And I know when you're thinking about and 0:04:13.960 --> 0:04:14.760 you're thinking about. 0:04:14.600 --> 0:04:16.600 We had a big part of it. What I mean 0:04:16.720 --> 0:04:17.080 is it. 0:04:17.080 --> 0:04:19.839 Was like the biggest what I mean like like you 0:04:19.839 --> 0:04:21.719 couldn't go nowhere without people speaking about it. 0:04:22.040 --> 0:04:25.200 Because of the end of this social media specifically. 0:04:24.600 --> 0:04:26.240 Okay, what do you think about that? 0:04:28.080 --> 0:04:28.760 I think. 0:04:30.400 --> 0:04:35.679 I think Kendrick out maneuvered Drake. I think he thought 0:04:35.720 --> 0:04:38.960 that it was going to be easy. But you gotta 0:04:39.080 --> 0:04:42.760 you gotta think like Drake. I'm gonna say is. I 0:04:42.760 --> 0:04:44.880 won't say was. I would say Drake is on like 0:04:44.920 --> 0:04:50.680 a fifteen fourteen year run. Oh Hove didn't even Hove 0:04:50.760 --> 0:04:52.680 didn't even have that type of run. And I don't 0:04:52.760 --> 0:04:56.359 mean hip hop star, I mean rap pop star, you 0:04:56.400 --> 0:04:58.640 know what I mean, Like he's over there, like he's 0:04:58.680 --> 0:05:01.480 still hip hop. But Drake could sell out O two, 0:05:01.720 --> 0:05:05.080 sell out with like whatever. So but Kendrick, I want 0:05:05.120 --> 0:05:08.119 to say, just out maneuvered him, you know what I'm saying, 0:05:08.279 --> 0:05:11.680 Like those records were very strategic. 0:05:11.440 --> 0:05:15.440 He kind of did to Drake what Drake and Mill 0:05:15.600 --> 0:05:19.680 went through. Like I believe that at one point Me 0:05:20.640 --> 0:05:23.640 underestimated him, and I believe that at one point Drake 0:05:23.720 --> 0:05:27.160 underestimated him because of the fact that Kendrick wasn't wasn't 0:05:27.279 --> 0:05:32.240 immediately going back in the studio. So so you do 0:05:32.320 --> 0:05:34.799 you think this is the biggest I has down sleeping? 0:05:34.839 --> 0:05:35.719 Okay, we was. 0:05:35.920 --> 0:05:37.599 We was around for jay z n. 0:05:39.960 --> 0:05:45.680 And and and and krs. But the Internet made this one, 0:05:46.360 --> 0:05:48.480 you know what I mean, Like, but we didn't. They 0:05:48.480 --> 0:05:50.719 didn't have a It didn't have to be a summer 0:05:50.800 --> 0:05:54.599 jam moment. You know, peace prize on the screen, Oh Shan, 0:05:54.800 --> 0:05:56.240 you know what I mean. It didn't have to be that. 0:05:56.400 --> 0:05:59.240 But he just outmaneuvered him man. 0:06:00.040 --> 0:06:03.800 Using social media he used as a tool like that 0:06:03.920 --> 0:06:06.560 concert was his summer jam moment, that constant way he 0:06:06.560 --> 0:06:09.360 brung Drake dre out and he was like, imagine he 0:06:09.440 --> 0:06:13.120 himself did his own summer jam moment, right because. 0:06:14.640 --> 0:06:16.880 He did his own summer jam moments. What I'm saying 0:06:17.040 --> 0:06:18.719 that I don't think that was equivalent. 0:06:18.800 --> 0:06:20.960 I think that because you had to go to a 0:06:21.040 --> 0:06:23.280 summer jam, he created it somebody. 0:06:27.279 --> 0:06:27.840 A different way. 0:06:28.160 --> 0:06:31.240 And even even thinking back, you got to think, So 0:06:31.440 --> 0:06:33.719 Kendrick had a concert where he put on like all 0:06:33.880 --> 0:06:35.560 l A artists, everybody in his hood. He had. 0:06:35.880 --> 0:06:36.920 That's the concert. 0:06:37.320 --> 0:06:40.920 Talking about the concert, Drake did that five years prior. 0:06:41.360 --> 0:06:43.279 You got a concert a battle. 0:06:43.360 --> 0:06:46.800 It was all Canadian artists, you know what I mean, 0:06:46.800 --> 0:06:48.839 Like if you wasn't from Canada, you wasn't getting on 0:06:48.880 --> 0:06:50.880 this bill from the whole school to the new School. 0:06:51.040 --> 0:06:53.200 So it's like he did what he had already done, 0:06:53.720 --> 0:06:57.479 but it just it was magnified. And Kendrick was just 0:06:57.680 --> 0:07:00.600 very smart, Like just the small thing is like like 0:07:01.040 --> 0:07:05.040 releasing the songs on YouTube, but taking the monetation off, 0:07:05.480 --> 0:07:08.080 taking the eat so people could p his joints and 0:07:08.120 --> 0:07:09.400 get money off of it. 0:07:09.560 --> 0:07:10.760 They can do the reaction. 0:07:10.560 --> 0:07:14.000 Videos, they could do whatever they want. Yeah, who's doing that? 0:07:15.040 --> 0:07:16.360 So what was he doing? He was? 0:07:16.400 --> 0:07:18.120 He was when he posted his videos. 0:07:18.160 --> 0:07:21.080 He took off the whatever it is to where people 0:07:21.120 --> 0:07:24.720 can't monetize. He let people monetize off of his his. 0:07:24.720 --> 0:07:27.920 Lady copyright free, yeah copyright. He took the copyright off. 0:07:28.160 --> 0:07:30.960 If I'm not mak your money, like go ahead, nigga. 0:07:31.000 --> 0:07:33.040 It was for the people, like he was like, go ahead, 0:07:33.080 --> 0:07:35.720 break your bread. If you get eighty million views on 0:07:35.760 --> 0:07:37.600 your ship. My nigga counted up. 0:07:37.560 --> 0:07:40.360 Like typically if someone does a reaction video, it won't monetize. 0:07:40.640 --> 0:07:42.480 They'll get the views, but it won't monetize for them. 0:07:42.480 --> 0:07:44.480 He's like, go ahead and make your money off of it. Yeah, 0:07:45.120 --> 0:07:48.720 which was strictly for the people. Smart man. He went 0:07:48.880 --> 0:07:51.120 got small part of the way. You're smart man. He 0:07:51.840 --> 0:07:52.760 out maneuvered them. 0:07:52.920 --> 0:07:55.640 I want to say, out bar them and then and 0:07:55.680 --> 0:07:57.880 then he made a bot at the end, like not 0:07:58.040 --> 0:08:00.920 like us. It was just a bot. Like it's about 0:08:01.200 --> 0:08:03.480 you can't be mad at it. It's about I think. 0:08:03.520 --> 0:08:06.880 I see the interview with you in two thoy eighteen 0:08:07.520 --> 0:08:11.760 and they asked you who is who is the new generation? 0:08:11.920 --> 0:08:14.960 And you named the Big Three. Back then you said 0:08:15.000 --> 0:08:15.520 you said. 0:08:15.320 --> 0:08:17.240 I saw it coming. I saw it coming. 0:08:17.320 --> 0:08:22.800 I remember when they was all running together, Wilet, Cuddy, Drake, Kendrake, 0:08:23.000 --> 0:08:25.960 you know what I'm saying. Nip was in there, but 0:08:26.200 --> 0:08:29.880 Kendrick Man, he just different man. I went to see 0:08:29.880 --> 0:08:34.640 his concert, his his big step is concert mister Morale, 0:08:34.720 --> 0:08:37.520 and it, like bro it was. It was one of 0:08:37.520 --> 0:08:39.720 the illest concerts I ever I put it top three, 0:08:39.760 --> 0:08:42.600 and I seen Mike and Prince Wow. I put it 0:08:42.679 --> 0:08:48.120 top three. Ken Kendrick showed his last tour. It was insane, 0:08:48.440 --> 0:08:51.920 bro it was and it was like black Art, like 0:08:52.120 --> 0:08:53.880 if you ever get a chance, I think it might 0:08:53.880 --> 0:08:56.520 be still up on one of them streaming networks or whatever. 0:08:56.559 --> 0:08:58.240 I'm gonna say the name, but look for it. But 0:08:59.040 --> 0:09:00.200 it's bro. 0:09:00.320 --> 0:09:01.880 I went. I went on a Tuesday. 0:09:02.559 --> 0:09:03.240 I was in v A. 0:09:03.400 --> 0:09:05.840 I went on a Tuesday in Charlotte because the tickets 0:09:05.880 --> 0:09:09.360 was just cheaper, right, So I go to Charlotte, stay 0:09:09.400 --> 0:09:11.880 to night, see the show. I'm blown away. I drive 0:09:12.080 --> 0:09:16.040 back the VA Wednesday and he's in DC Thursday. I 0:09:16.120 --> 0:09:20.400 woke up Wednesday like I might go see this ship again. 0:09:21.200 --> 0:09:24.920 It was that fire like it was. I just and 0:09:24.960 --> 0:09:26.760 I love how he pop out and then he just 0:09:26.760 --> 0:09:29.320 go back home. He just go back inside. You don't 0:09:29.320 --> 0:09:31.240 see him no more until it's time to see him. 0:09:31.679 --> 0:09:31.839 You know. 0:09:34.280 --> 0:09:36.400 So let me ask you, because this is something that 0:09:38.400 --> 0:09:41.960 I was conflicted with, right, And I seen Jada Kiss 0:09:41.960 --> 0:09:45.199 comment on this when j Cole came out right, they 0:09:45.240 --> 0:09:48.720 covede this this this, this is this record and then 0:09:48.760 --> 0:09:53.480 did a concert and almost like he apologized, not almost 0:09:53.520 --> 0:09:57.120 he apologized, and a lot of Battle Rappers was like why, 0:09:57.360 --> 0:10:00.760 like why, But then he said something that was conflicted 0:10:00.760 --> 0:10:04.559 with me because if I'm sorry, sometimes I just got 0:10:04.600 --> 0:10:05.600 to be sorry. 0:10:05.440 --> 0:10:06.920 Right like I don't care. 0:10:06.800 --> 0:10:09.960 What what what? What's what's the criteria of that being? 0:10:10.200 --> 0:10:11.640 And we was like that it ain't sit right with 0:10:11.720 --> 0:10:14.360 my soul. That ship touched me as a man that 0:10:14.480 --> 0:10:16.920 been through older I've been through. That touched me. But 0:10:17.000 --> 0:10:19.439 then the other half of me like, nig fuck, why 0:10:19.520 --> 0:10:22.600 you say sorry? Like so where did you? Where did 0:10:22.640 --> 0:10:23.120 you sit on that? 0:10:23.240 --> 0:10:25.520 When I looked at the video and it was like 0:10:25.640 --> 0:10:27.560 Ja Cole apologized as the Kendrick. 0:10:27.640 --> 0:10:29.800 I looked at the video. I didn't get apology. 0:10:30.160 --> 0:10:33.760 The headline that headline was why he did? 0:10:33.960 --> 0:10:36.040 He got up and he was. 0:10:36.080 --> 0:10:39.560 Like, yo, I did some ship. It wasn't really in 0:10:39.679 --> 0:10:41.920 my heart, you know what I mean? I knew it 0:10:41.960 --> 0:10:45.160 when I did it. I put it out there. I 0:10:45.320 --> 0:10:48.560 was I ain't even really go one hundred because that's 0:10:48.640 --> 0:10:51.240 my man, that's my friend. But I did something that 0:10:51.320 --> 0:10:53.880 was out of my character. And if and if he 0:10:54.000 --> 0:10:55.560 if he wanted to take it on the chain, cool, 0:10:55.559 --> 0:10:56.360 if you want to come. 0:10:56.240 --> 0:10:57.520 Back in and smart up. 0:10:57.559 --> 0:10:57.800 Cool. 0:10:57.880 --> 0:11:00.680 He got that, but I ain't standing on that because 0:11:00.679 --> 0:11:02.960 that ain't how I really feel. And what people got 0:11:02.960 --> 0:11:06.520 to understand is when you got friends in this game, 0:11:06.840 --> 0:11:10.680 it's a little different. Okay, we talked about that last time, like, 0:11:10.720 --> 0:11:15.320 if you're my friend, I'm not gonna do anything publicly 0:11:15.880 --> 0:11:17.199 just for a look to. 0:11:17.280 --> 0:11:17.960 Play you out. 0:11:18.840 --> 0:11:20.920 Like I went through that with one of the wrap ups, 0:11:20.960 --> 0:11:24.760 Like I remember when the Entanglement shit happened. Everybody was like, yo, 0:11:25.000 --> 0:11:26.679 I can't believe he put Will and Jade in the 0:11:26.679 --> 0:11:27.080 wrap up. 0:11:27.080 --> 0:11:28.160 I'm like, that's my friend. 0:11:29.240 --> 0:11:31.960 I'm not gonna waste a twenty year relationship for a 0:11:31.960 --> 0:11:35.600 punchline for y'all niggas for a song you don't even buy. 0:11:39.000 --> 0:11:41.000 Like, I'm not doing that. 0:11:41.000 --> 0:11:44.280 That's my that's my friend. So I'm going to see 0:11:44.280 --> 0:11:46.440 them at a barbecue. I'm going to see them at 0:11:46.559 --> 0:11:48.360 a birthday party. I'm supposed to put that in the 0:11:48.400 --> 0:11:50.760 wrap up for you. Now, I'm cool, And. 0:11:51.040 --> 0:11:52.720 It might have been like it might have been like. 0:11:52.760 --> 0:11:54.800 Only five people to ask, like, damn, I can't believe 0:11:54.840 --> 0:11:56.160 he put that in there. Everybody was like, yo, the 0:11:56.200 --> 0:11:56.839 Druman's crazy. 0:11:56.840 --> 0:11:57.320 It was dope. 0:11:57.400 --> 0:11:59.439 They ain't even they ain't even miss it. I'm like, 0:11:59.480 --> 0:12:01.880 I'm not risk in that relationship. And I think Kendrick 0:12:01.920 --> 0:12:03.240 and Cola friends. 0:12:04.200 --> 0:12:06.520 You know, I also said something on Twitter. They fried 0:12:06.559 --> 0:12:10.120 me for it. They fried me for it, and I 0:12:10.240 --> 0:12:13.839 enjoyed every moment. I was like, Yo, Kim, Drake and Drake. 0:12:14.200 --> 0:12:16.920 In a couple of years, we'll squash this and make 0:12:17.000 --> 0:12:19.360 one of the greatest records of hip hop history. 0:12:19.440 --> 0:12:24.160 And it ain't having You know what, I believe it 0:12:24.280 --> 0:12:25.200 or did I delete it? 0:12:26.800 --> 0:12:28.880 Did you believe it? Will you ever deleted it? You 0:12:28.920 --> 0:12:29.280 know why? 0:12:29.360 --> 0:12:31.320 Because you know why. I'm gonna be honest with you. 0:12:31.400 --> 0:12:34.400 I got to see Jay and I I's patching it up. 0:12:34.440 --> 0:12:37.360 I got to see Shan and ker rush One going 0:12:37.480 --> 0:12:38.400 toll and do that. 0:12:38.480 --> 0:12:40.240 I got to see that none of them got called 0:12:40.240 --> 0:12:40.880 the pedophile. 0:12:41.760 --> 0:12:45.400 Damn man, got it got pretty skating on this one. 0:12:45.840 --> 0:12:51.199 You gotta hold that. That's that's like and listen. 0:12:51.040 --> 0:12:51.839 I'm. 0:12:54.559 --> 0:12:57.440 Love fit audible. I come from battle rap. 0:12:57.559 --> 0:13:00.440 If I know that your sister got off the py shoe, 0:13:00.520 --> 0:13:00.880 you fuck. 0:13:00.960 --> 0:13:05.800 I'm say I'm puking at the ball. 0:13:06.240 --> 0:13:09.240 My rooms for the battle wrapping when we did it 0:13:09.280 --> 0:13:12.000 was if I'm in front of you and I'm blowing 0:13:12.080 --> 0:13:14.440 you up, and I see you ball your hands up. 0:13:14.559 --> 0:13:16.920 I won because now you want to fight me. 0:13:17.480 --> 0:13:19.880 If I can make you want to fight me with work. 0:13:20.360 --> 0:13:26.360 You already lost. So Jay and Nis, they were businessman. 0:13:26.520 --> 0:13:27.640 I get it. You know what I'm saying. 0:13:27.679 --> 0:13:31.240 They grew it was it was always tension between them, 0:13:31.360 --> 0:13:33.360 shan and and and Chris. 0:13:33.440 --> 0:13:34.160 I get it. 0:13:34.920 --> 0:13:39.240 Between them, and they squashed it. Squawks be bro, that's 0:13:39.240 --> 0:13:39.760 still beef. 0:13:41.040 --> 0:13:44.439 Last year I was with I was working with mass 0:13:44.480 --> 0:13:50.520 Appeal and Knobs on the fifty m. Anything they did, 0:13:52.080 --> 0:13:53.839 they had it in downtown and they took it to 0:13:54.000 --> 0:13:55.880 l A. I think it's moving around the world. Shout 0:13:55.880 --> 0:13:58.839 to shout to Peter in them. So I'm in there 0:13:58.880 --> 0:14:01.199 with Nas. Clark can't. 0:14:02.559 --> 0:14:07.480 Can you pronounce Peter the last name bitten bitten bender Peter. 0:14:11.960 --> 0:14:14.800 So it's me we in there, and and Nas comes 0:14:14.800 --> 0:14:17.120 in and and I I. 0:14:17.080 --> 0:14:19.680 Have seen I had seen Nas and years. 0:14:19.720 --> 0:14:22.480 So we're sitting there talking and Clark is trying to 0:14:22.520 --> 0:14:24.720 tell me how they want this thing done because they 0:14:24.720 --> 0:14:27.480 called me in because I put things together with whatever. 0:14:27.800 --> 0:14:29.960 So Nas is in there and Clark and Nastart talking 0:14:30.000 --> 0:14:31.400 I'm just a fly on the wall or whatever. 0:14:31.760 --> 0:14:33.400 So they talking. 0:14:33.600 --> 0:14:36.920 And and they start talking about the old days, and 0:14:37.440 --> 0:14:39.720 Clark said something like, yeah, you know, back in the day, 0:14:39.800 --> 0:14:41.680 like because you know, I used to DJ for day 0:14:41.720 --> 0:14:41.960 and day. 0:14:41.960 --> 0:14:43.160 And the Nas look at him. 0:14:42.960 --> 0:14:46.440 Like like like, Clauk, why you say that? Like I 0:14:46.440 --> 0:14:49.440 don't know, like I had to post on my walk about. 0:14:49.720 --> 0:14:52.200 So I started listening to Nas and I started realizing 0:14:52.280 --> 0:14:55.120 how big of a fin himp Hops is. 0:14:55.640 --> 0:14:55.840 Right. 0:14:56.000 --> 0:14:58.320 So I'm sitting there and I'm a fly on the wall, 0:14:58.400 --> 0:15:00.760 but I'm dead, but I just watched. I always wanted 0:15:00.760 --> 0:15:03.560 to ask him this question. So I'm looking at him 0:15:03.840 --> 0:15:05.920 and I said, I said, yo, Nah, I said, man, 0:15:06.080 --> 0:15:07.880 I just want to ask you this one question one time. 0:15:07.960 --> 0:15:10.720 He was like what I said, Yo, how was it 0:15:11.200 --> 0:15:15.440 when the bridges over dropped? Like how was it like 0:15:15.560 --> 0:15:19.280 when I tell you his whole and Ralph and Ralph? 0:15:19.360 --> 0:15:22.080 Him and Ralph looked at each other like two queens niggas. 0:15:22.080 --> 0:15:25.960 They looked at each other like So he goes, he 0:15:26.040 --> 0:15:28.320 looks at me with the most serious look in his face. 0:15:28.440 --> 0:15:31.360 NAS looks at me directing goes, he said, skills you 0:15:31.440 --> 0:15:35.960 ever seen a Heroshima bomb? Hit some projects and I 0:15:36.080 --> 0:15:38.400 was like, nah, I was like, it was like dang. 0:15:38.440 --> 0:15:40.120 He looked at Ralph, he was like, my son of 0:15:40.160 --> 0:15:43.400 my line. Rob was like, nah son, it was crazy. 0:15:44.360 --> 0:15:47.280 He was like he said when it dropped, everybody was like, yo, 0:15:47.400 --> 0:15:49.240 they heard about it, but they hadn't heard it. 0:15:49.600 --> 0:15:51.160 So yo, who got the tape? Yo? 0:15:51.240 --> 0:15:53.120 Boy, he got the tape? Hit the barber shop. 0:15:53.200 --> 0:15:56.200 That's worse. And they go to the barber shop and Yo, Bobby, 0:15:56.200 --> 0:15:56.880 what it take? Like? 0:15:56.960 --> 0:15:58.760 Yo, I gave it to l L got the tape. 0:15:58.800 --> 0:15:59.520 He up on the hill. 0:16:00.000 --> 0:16:02.280 So they running around trying to find a tape. 0:16:02.520 --> 0:16:03.480 You know what makes it bad? 0:16:03.600 --> 0:16:06.080 It wasn't just like because you know, it's supposed to 0:16:06.120 --> 0:16:13.160 be just between Krris one and and Shan, But for 0:16:13.200 --> 0:16:15.480 some reason, Karris wants to go on the whole birth Yes, 0:16:15.880 --> 0:16:17.720 and he said you didn't hear a peak from a 0:16:17.760 --> 0:16:18.560 place called Queen? 0:16:18.760 --> 0:16:18.960 Yes? 0:16:19.200 --> 0:16:22.000 And boy, when I tell you, that was not the 0:16:22.040 --> 0:16:26.040 best line, right. He created so many killers because we 0:16:26.120 --> 0:16:27.960 were like, oh, we're gonna make more than the peak. 0:16:28.040 --> 0:16:29.800 Motherfucker. You understand I'm saying. 0:16:29.800 --> 0:16:31.440 I told Harris one day he just put his head 0:16:31.480 --> 0:16:34.160 down and I said, damn, I didn't mean it. 0:16:34.280 --> 0:16:36.280 I didn't mean that, but I want you to face reality. 0:16:36.440 --> 0:16:37.040 You know what I mean. 0:16:37.120 --> 0:16:41.480 But it wasn't until el Madicus. That's funny, That's exactly 0:16:41.520 --> 0:16:46.400 what told. We didn't get back until me. He said, 0:16:46.400 --> 0:16:48.760 you gotta understand. We used to go to the city 0:16:49.280 --> 0:16:52.560 ninety one hundred deep and just wait for the motherfucker 0:16:52.600 --> 0:16:54.960 to play the bridge. If he played the bridges over that. 0:16:54.920 --> 0:16:59.720 Ship, the party's done and ocle raph when it sounded. 0:16:59.480 --> 0:17:01.360 Like word, I was dead, like I've seen it. 0:17:01.480 --> 0:17:09.320 He's like, yos soon as everything turned the yo, he said, Yo, 0:17:09.359 --> 0:17:11.760 we didn't He said, Yo, we didn't get back until me. 0:17:12.280 --> 0:17:16.120 He said, so you say something about queens you play 0:17:16.160 --> 0:17:18.719 that record? Nah, you got you got an answer for that? 0:17:18.880 --> 0:17:20.960 He said, Yo, we was running up on We running 0:17:21.000 --> 0:17:22.640 up on man line where your man is at. 0:17:29.440 --> 0:17:30.639 He said, Yo. He was crazy. 0:17:30.680 --> 0:17:35.280 He was crazy and it was like that he was 0:17:35.280 --> 0:17:37.320 like I said. I said, I said no, I said, 0:17:37.320 --> 0:17:40.560 what was the time? How much times mad? A little 0:17:40.560 --> 0:17:42.280 bit after that said I said. 0:17:42.119 --> 0:17:44.359 Not, he's right there. He was signed. The cameras know 0:17:44.440 --> 0:17:45.920 that this is way after that record. 0:17:46.400 --> 0:17:51.120 I said, how much time passed between uh South Bronx 0:17:51.320 --> 0:17:52.520 and and Britges over. 0:17:52.600 --> 0:17:54.720 He Uncle Robin was like, yo was like a month? 0:17:55.680 --> 0:17:58.400 He said, yos like a month, and it was how 0:17:58.440 --> 0:18:01.760 long did this thing last? He said, it lasted for years? 0:18:02.040 --> 0:18:06.760 And I know that I never record record And that's 0:18:06.760 --> 0:18:10.200 why I feel like when Queen's Cast came out, y'all 0:18:10.240 --> 0:18:12.880 came out with so much like we're not going back 0:18:12.880 --> 0:18:18.480 there like that, and you know what's crazy, That's what 0:18:18.760 --> 0:18:20.520 record was crazy. 0:18:20.680 --> 0:18:22.879 That's why that you know, the Nots and jay Z 0:18:23.040 --> 0:18:26.119 battle was so you know important, was because we couldn't 0:18:26.160 --> 0:18:29.400 lose that one, Like we couldn't lose that one. And 0:18:29.760 --> 0:18:32.680 you know, my brother like he's my brother. I love 0:18:32.800 --> 0:18:35.760 NOAs like I can hit him right now, will he'll correspond? 0:18:36.240 --> 0:18:39.280 But at first, you know, I know, I don't know 0:18:39.280 --> 0:18:41.640 if I e ever revealed this. He didn't think Jay 0:18:41.760 --> 0:18:43.560 was was going at him like people are coming up 0:18:43.600 --> 0:18:45.440 to him like you gotta love the cause little Jewel 0:18:45.440 --> 0:18:47.719 to reed, none of that food was getting fool with 0:18:47.760 --> 0:18:48.520 me and. 0:18:48.240 --> 0:18:51.240 I was like talking about about me and a lot. 0:18:51.160 --> 0:18:54.000 Of people was like, yo, man, it was so I 0:18:54.000 --> 0:18:56.560 think I think that the biggest battle between them was 0:18:56.600 --> 0:18:59.719 between them, like it really didn't have anybody gassing them. 0:18:59.760 --> 0:19:02.399 It's really just them too. But again, you know, I 0:19:02.440 --> 0:19:04.560 want to commend those brothers for going out there giving 0:19:04.600 --> 0:19:07.320 us a great battle and then you know, shaking hands 0:19:07.359 --> 0:19:09.080 on stage. I remember how proud I. 0:19:09.040 --> 0:19:10.840 Was seeing that. I know we're talking about the beasts 0:19:10.840 --> 0:19:11.280 and all that. 0:19:12.320 --> 0:19:15.120 How proud I was seeing Meek Milling and Drake squashed 0:19:15.160 --> 0:19:18.040 it like, letting them get over. But nas and Jay 0:19:18.240 --> 0:19:21.000 was the first stepping stone to that type of thing. 0:19:21.119 --> 0:19:24.479 Grow you Was it Jay Z's B side concerts concert? 0:19:24.600 --> 0:19:27.320 I believe it was, and he brung nads no no, no, 0:19:28.920 --> 0:19:31.640 General Barclays and he came out because I remember Jay 0:19:31.640 --> 0:19:32.520 had on the black. 0:19:32.440 --> 0:19:39.040 And on the green Army coad. Yeah, how much broke? Remember? 0:19:43.280 --> 0:19:44.480 So something else. 0:19:44.280 --> 0:19:48.520 That something else that I was looking at all your 0:19:48.520 --> 0:19:52.280 interviews and you said, people start asking you to subscribe Virginia, 0:19:52.760 --> 0:19:54.920 and you said something, this is your first line. And 0:19:54.960 --> 0:19:57.840 I don't know if you know this, but you said, yeah, 0:19:58.040 --> 0:20:02.800 there's something in the water, right And then before you 0:20:02.840 --> 0:20:05.680 know what I'm talking about, I said, damn, this motherfucking 0:20:05.720 --> 0:20:08.040 the name for reals, for real, Jack. 0:20:07.920 --> 0:20:09.239 You which one is it? 0:20:09.320 --> 0:20:09.560 Listen? 0:20:09.760 --> 0:20:11.960 We always we always said. 0:20:11.680 --> 0:20:13.399 That you know what I'm saying I'm just something in 0:20:13.400 --> 0:20:15.960 the water, but I might have been the first person 0:20:15.960 --> 0:20:16.520 to say it, and. 0:20:16.560 --> 0:20:18.919 Wrest I was the thing locally. I saw that. I 0:20:18.960 --> 0:20:20.440 saw that record you first. 0:20:20.280 --> 0:20:24.280 One fuckers, mother fuckers take my ideas like ship, you 0:20:24.280 --> 0:20:24.720 know what I mean. 0:20:24.720 --> 0:20:27.200 But when it's hometown, I don't you ghost writing ideas? 0:20:27.200 --> 0:20:37.320 Too said so, but how did you feel when you 0:20:37.600 --> 0:20:38.920 heard from announced that. 0:20:39.160 --> 0:20:41.280 I thought it was dope man, like I just I 0:20:41.400 --> 0:20:43.840 just spunded his his rap party for his movie. 0:20:44.560 --> 0:20:46.119 He shot the Lego movie. 0:20:46.240 --> 0:20:48.520 No not he got he got another movie clean out, 0:20:48.640 --> 0:20:51.480 like a real, for real like bio pic. It's called Lantis. 0:20:51.520 --> 0:20:53.040 I think it's called Lantis. I hope I didn't give 0:20:53.040 --> 0:20:56.760 it away. And I know I know he's debuting the 0:20:56.840 --> 0:20:59.680 Lego movie at Something in the Water this year. 0:21:00.160 --> 0:21:02.600 It's not so a minute, so I don't know what 0:21:02.680 --> 0:21:04.080 the funk I did you ain't it? 0:21:04.320 --> 0:21:08.960 Yeah, don't tell the story about doing the voiceover. 0:21:09.240 --> 0:21:10.320 Oh yeah, I mean this. 0:21:10.680 --> 0:21:12.520 If there's anybody in the world that can tell me 0:21:12.560 --> 0:21:18.760 to do something without giving me the full story, like 0:21:19.040 --> 0:21:21.000 he's just like yo, I'm doing the animated like I 0:21:21.000 --> 0:21:23.879 didn't put too and two together animated Lego like I 0:21:23.960 --> 0:21:25.880 was just like he was just like yo, so asked 0:21:25.920 --> 0:21:28.960 me questions. It was on the phone, we filmed it. 0:21:29.240 --> 0:21:31.080 We still send it to them. I believe he did 0:21:31.200 --> 0:21:35.760 or I'm not sure, but we and they never they 0:21:35.800 --> 0:21:38.480 never told me it was a Lego Lego movie. So 0:21:38.480 --> 0:21:41.160 so he drops the commercial and people were just. 0:21:41.080 --> 0:21:46.240 Like, yo, man, you tell. 0:21:47.000 --> 0:21:49.600 I don't want to surprised. I'm like I know. I'm 0:21:49.640 --> 0:21:50.240 like yeah, yeah. 0:21:50.359 --> 0:21:54.240 Sometimes you can't tell people to find a project just 0:21:54.640 --> 0:21:55.919 because they'll go out and blow it. 0:21:56.000 --> 0:21:57.640 Like it's don't telling Mary. 0:21:57.520 --> 0:22:01.200 Well you knew for all and Chad and high school. No, no, no, 0:22:01.280 --> 0:22:03.200 I met them. I met him at a trip called 0:22:03.280 --> 0:22:06.479 quest concert. Yes, yes, I met him at her at 0:22:06.480 --> 0:22:09.760 a trip called Courst Concert and Pharrell was trying to 0:22:09.840 --> 0:22:11.920 rap for Q Tip and I. 0:22:11.880 --> 0:22:13.800 Can see that. Yeah yeah, both tribe. 0:22:14.080 --> 0:22:17.879 Yeah, the biggest Tribe fan in VA. Like, he was 0:22:18.920 --> 0:22:21.560 crazy about trip called Courts and he wanted to rap 0:22:21.640 --> 0:22:23.480 for him. I was just on stage with him rapping 0:22:24.000 --> 0:22:28.760 and the bus was leaving and he was like, damn 0:22:28.880 --> 0:22:30.560 they that's them. And I was like yeah, the bus 0:22:30.560 --> 0:22:32.080 at the turn signal. I was like yeah, and he's 0:22:32.080 --> 0:22:34.520 like yo, I got wrapped for Tippy got hit my beast. 0:22:34.600 --> 0:22:37.000 I was like, Yo, that's the bus leaving bro like 0:22:37.040 --> 0:22:39.040 about to cry, like you know what I'm saying, Like 0:22:39.040 --> 0:22:41.880 he like he had missed his shot. And then later 0:22:41.920 --> 0:22:45.199 on he connected with him, and uh, the rest was history. 0:22:45.240 --> 0:22:45.840 You know what I'm saying. 0:22:45.880 --> 0:22:49.080 He's still one of the most influential people in the world, 0:22:49.280 --> 0:22:49.800 you know what I mean. 0:22:49.880 --> 0:22:51.680 Like I love he man, like. 0:22:52.080 --> 0:22:53.679 I just talked. I sent him. Oh, I sent him 0:22:53.720 --> 0:22:54.240 a picture. 0:22:54.040 --> 0:22:57.400 The other day of of Fife, Rest in Peace Fife 0:22:57.400 --> 0:22:59.960 and Rest in Peace Dave from Daylight at that show, 0:23:00.040 --> 0:23:05.160 oh wow, because because Fife had to know every time, 0:23:05.200 --> 0:23:06.720 you know, fight would go to a city, he would 0:23:06.720 --> 0:23:09.560 wear the jersey or whatever the team was. So he 0:23:09.600 --> 0:23:12.800 had on a Virginia jersey. He had on the Virginia 0:23:12.920 --> 0:23:13.960 sweatshirt at that show. 0:23:14.160 --> 0:23:17.680 All right, let me ask you a cliche question. You 0:23:17.760 --> 0:23:19.720 ever thought Virginia would be this popular? 0:23:19.920 --> 0:23:20.520 Absolutely? 0:23:20.640 --> 0:23:25.560 Not no, not not, you know, not not in hindsight, 0:23:25.600 --> 0:23:28.719 because like I said, when I first came out, it 0:23:28.840 --> 0:23:30.680 was it wasn't nobody, you know what I'm saying. It 0:23:30.720 --> 0:23:34.600 was just it wasn't even locally was locally, but wasn't 0:23:34.600 --> 0:23:37.440 nobody making no dents, and Teddy was. 0:23:37.400 --> 0:23:39.520 Out, but Teddy was Clanton Harlem a little bit Teddy 0:23:39.600 --> 0:23:40.119 Teddy was. 0:23:40.640 --> 0:23:42.520 It was rump shaking and then you know you had 0:23:42.520 --> 0:23:44.120 a killing then wrapping his little brother. 0:23:44.200 --> 0:23:45.520 They was hallm you know what I'm saying. 0:23:45.520 --> 0:23:48.160 So they were shoot they shot the video Virginia Beach, 0:23:48.240 --> 0:23:49.200 but we didn't. 0:23:49.280 --> 0:23:51.200 Yeah, we didn't know them, you know what I mean. 0:23:51.240 --> 0:23:53.480 So I tell people all the time, I was you know, 0:23:53.520 --> 0:23:56.959 I was the first one. So it's almost like I 0:23:57.000 --> 0:24:00.159 look at rappers now and cat's be like, oh, you know, 0:24:00.200 --> 0:24:02.199 I put my neighborhood on, I put my city on, 0:24:02.720 --> 0:24:05.080 and when I look back at it, I'm like, I 0:24:05.080 --> 0:24:08.040 put a whole state on because it really wasn't no 0:24:08.040 --> 0:24:10.440 nobody else from Virginia. Usually I was the first person 0:24:10.480 --> 0:24:12.760 you ever heard from of it, you know what I'm saying. 0:24:12.840 --> 0:24:16.720 Like Like, so for me, it's like, yeah, I'm gonna 0:24:16.720 --> 0:24:18.520 put a claim in there. I don't want motherfuckers to 0:24:18.520 --> 0:24:20.679 forget that it was me, you know what I'm saying. Like, 0:24:25.200 --> 0:24:28.600 And and once they came, I made it successful, you 0:24:28.640 --> 0:24:30.800 know what I'm saying. Shout out to Magool because I 0:24:31.440 --> 0:24:33.880 did my thing. And then they started doing they thing. 0:24:34.000 --> 0:24:36.080 I got dropped. You know what I'm saying. I wasn't. 0:24:36.280 --> 0:24:38.399 I was back on the local scene. Then Magoo pulled 0:24:38.440 --> 0:24:40.280 me back in. You know what I'm saying, Like he 0:24:40.359 --> 0:24:42.800 told Tim and Missy like, yo, we gotta get him. 0:24:43.200 --> 0:24:45.880 That nigga pen game is nasty. We gotta get him. 0:24:46.560 --> 0:24:48.000 And the rest was history. 0:24:48.640 --> 0:24:50.600 Now, now I heard you say that you didn't want 0:24:50.640 --> 0:24:53.000 to be a ghost writer, but you've seen Missy pull 0:24:53.080 --> 0:24:53.320 up in. 0:24:53.240 --> 0:24:57.560 The purple Ferrari Lambeau Lambo okay, with purple piping on 0:24:57.600 --> 0:25:01.639 the seats. Nigga still the hell in four Me and 0:25:01.720 --> 0:25:03.680 p Pablo seen that ship at the same time. You 0:25:03.920 --> 0:25:07.000 thought we saw that, you would thought we saw a 0:25:07.040 --> 0:25:09.399 ghost When that car pulled up, it was like niggas 0:25:09.440 --> 0:25:11.400 can have that, you know what I'm saying, Like that, 0:25:11.640 --> 0:25:14.840 She wasn't even it's not artist money, No, okay, she wasn't. 0:25:15.000 --> 0:25:17.840 Silvia was begging her to put the album and she's like, 0:25:17.880 --> 0:25:19.800 I put the album out if you give me a deal, 0:25:20.720 --> 0:25:21.719 like a like a label. 0:25:21.880 --> 0:25:23.680 Just before the group that she was in, No. 0:25:23.720 --> 0:25:24.720 This is after sister. 0:25:25.440 --> 0:25:27.520 But that was what Joe to see and Davante and 0:25:27.520 --> 0:25:29.320 then the swing mob that failed. 0:25:29.640 --> 0:25:32.840 So then they came from Virginia. 0:25:32.880 --> 0:25:36.160 They from They from Charlotte, North Carolina. 0:25:36.520 --> 0:25:37.120 You know what I'm saying. 0:25:37.119 --> 0:25:40.199 But they was raised. They had Tim, Tim was under them, 0:25:40.240 --> 0:25:43.240 junior wines like d m V. So yeah, all of 0:25:43.280 --> 0:25:44.040 them was around. 0:25:44.680 --> 0:25:46.080 She's the West proper cheese. 0:25:46.200 --> 0:25:46.440 Yeah. 0:25:46.480 --> 0:25:52.480 Man, God comes down and calls Nori. 0:25:58.880 --> 0:26:10.520 Happy birthday, Joe drink chest Man skills man, skills man, 0:26:10.760 --> 0:26:11.199 what up? 0:26:13.000 --> 0:26:18.360 I'm good you good man, while. 0:26:18.200 --> 0:26:22.560 Man, but always love you to bro. You already know always. 0:26:22.280 --> 0:26:25.520 Your happy birthday, brother. I love it you by. 0:26:29.480 --> 0:26:34.840 Recorded drink chest so as to say happy birthday. 0:26:34.119 --> 0:26:39.240 Love love. That's dope. Yeah, jose A good dude. 0:26:39.240 --> 0:26:41.400 He's actually getting the key to the city tomorrow. 0:26:41.760 --> 0:26:44.119 That's dope to New York City. Man, this makes a 0:26:44.160 --> 0:26:51.080 noise and it's his birthday. Damn. What the is I saying? 0:26:51.200 --> 0:26:54.359 He was talking about ghost and not wanting to be 0:26:54.400 --> 0:26:57.280 a Yeah yeah yeah. 0:26:57.440 --> 0:27:03.320 God came down from heaven said, mad, we need you 0:27:03.400 --> 0:27:08.760 to save humanity, whether you perform this song or just 0:27:08.920 --> 0:27:13.200 write this song. Would you prefer you perform a song 0:27:13.280 --> 0:27:13.800 or write the song? 0:27:13.840 --> 0:27:17.080 And I could I probably just write it. Okay. 0:27:17.560 --> 0:27:22.520 The God says a song you gonna write to save 0:27:22.600 --> 0:27:27.119 humanity doesn't matter what kind of criteria song. So what 0:27:27.320 --> 0:27:30.399 artists would you you want to say your words? And 0:27:30.400 --> 0:27:33.840 then what producer would you pick it to produce that record? 0:27:34.720 --> 0:27:40.680 Pharrell got to do the beat, God damn the beat. 0:27:42.160 --> 0:27:46.760 The artist, I'll probably say Kendrick right now, I'll probably 0:27:46.760 --> 0:27:50.119 think Kendrick, even though I doubt he need anybody write anything. 0:27:51.960 --> 0:27:54.120 It would be Kendrick with Pharrell and the beat. Last 0:27:54.119 --> 0:27:56.639 time that happened, that was all right. That was a 0:27:56.720 --> 0:28:01.640 anthem We're gonna be all right? Made that oly ship 0:28:01.760 --> 0:28:03.919 that's for around on the hook saying we gonna be 0:28:04.000 --> 0:28:04.600 all right? 0:28:05.160 --> 0:28:05.679 Do you hear me? 0:28:05.720 --> 0:28:06.359 Do you feel me? 0:28:06.880 --> 0:28:13.159 Yo? You wild? I didn't know that. 0:28:13.320 --> 0:28:16.280 I'm not even gonna act like I did, Like that's 0:28:16.359 --> 0:28:17.600 that's gonna be my mission today. 0:28:17.600 --> 0:28:19.440 I'm an educating on the line of ship. 0:28:19.800 --> 0:28:19.840 Know. 0:28:20.800 --> 0:28:21.720 I ain't gonna lie to you. 0:28:23.240 --> 0:28:25.440 Because it's something that I heard you say. 0:28:25.720 --> 0:28:26.000 You said. 0:28:26.000 --> 0:28:27.359 They don't give a funk right now. They don't even 0:28:27.400 --> 0:28:31.920 buy albums with credits, so nobody I don't know, Like 0:28:32.200 --> 0:28:36.160 I don't know sometimes when I look at a person's song, 0:28:36.440 --> 0:28:39.160 sometimes I don't even see people saying features. Right, Yeah, 0:28:39.200 --> 0:28:41.280 it's like it's like different, like you ever thought that, 0:28:41.520 --> 0:28:43.840 because you know, when we come from the era where 0:28:44.400 --> 0:28:47.000 when your album dropped, I wanted to know who produced it. 0:28:47.200 --> 0:28:48.800 I want to know who your A n R was. 0:28:48.960 --> 0:28:50.800 I wanted to know where the address was for your 0:28:50.800 --> 0:28:51.480 record label. 0:28:51.680 --> 0:28:54.000 I wanted to know who your management. Who are you thinking? 0:28:55.440 --> 0:28:57.200 Who was your thank you? Your thank you? 0:28:57.400 --> 0:28:59.800 Yet that's how I learned rappers. 0:28:59.800 --> 0:29:02.600 Really heard you say that, like you got the published 0:29:02.880 --> 0:29:06.400 name Clifford Smith Ship that's method, man, you know what 0:29:06.400 --> 0:29:09.120 I'm saying. Robert D Like, I know, we used to 0:29:09.160 --> 0:29:12.000 play that game. You just throw out name Clifford Harris Man. 0:29:12.000 --> 0:29:13.520 We're gonna still that game We're going to. 0:29:20.440 --> 0:29:23.440 But yeah, so and right now they say it's just 0:29:23.560 --> 0:29:27.720 it's disposable music, but it's actually disposable everything. 0:29:27.840 --> 0:29:32.400 Yeah, songs don't even songs be like two minutes long. Yeah, 0:29:32.840 --> 0:29:33.880 because people's attentions. 0:29:33.920 --> 0:29:34.080 Man. 0:29:34.120 --> 0:29:36.400 So it's like it's like a TikTok era. You know 0:29:36.440 --> 0:29:36.800 what I'm saying. 0:29:36.840 --> 0:29:38.560 These kids they just want to get it and go 0:29:38.640 --> 0:29:40.600 to the next one, you know what I mean. So 0:29:41.120 --> 0:29:43.480 the songs be so fast and sometimes they catch you. 0:29:43.520 --> 0:29:46.560 Sometimes they not and then sometimes these kids can't even 0:29:46.560 --> 0:29:50.600 perform these songs. Like you see him live and you're like, damn, 0:29:50.760 --> 0:29:54.320 damn that ship. Yeah, I should don't hit this. They 0:29:54.400 --> 0:29:56.000 damn near made it in a vacuum. I don't even 0:29:56.040 --> 0:29:59.320 remember what bro The song ain't even mixed. They just 0:29:59.400 --> 0:30:02.320 uploaded it and it went, it went crazy. You know 0:30:02.320 --> 0:30:04.800 what I'm saying. That's that's the problem. Like I tell, 0:30:04.920 --> 0:30:07.400 I tell these kids a lot, Like I'm like, yo, man, listen, 0:30:07.600 --> 0:30:09.440 I'm like, I know it's I know what you're thinking. 0:30:10.040 --> 0:30:13.360 You're thinking that you're hot because you got dismounting numbers 0:30:13.360 --> 0:30:15.400 on TikTok and you got a million views and da 0:30:15.520 --> 0:30:17.840 da da da. You can fake the views, you can 0:30:17.920 --> 0:30:20.760 fake the followers, you can fake the likes, but you 0:30:20.840 --> 0:30:26.120 can't fake making people care. You can't fake that. So 0:30:26.160 --> 0:30:28.479 if you can, you can have eighty million followers. You 0:30:28.480 --> 0:30:31.080 show up in VA and I and I heard that 0:30:31.120 --> 0:30:33.360 it was only forty people with the show last night. 0:30:33.400 --> 0:30:34.600 I already know what that is. 0:30:35.560 --> 0:30:39.240 Like y'all, y'all faking the funk like on some real shit, 0:30:39.960 --> 0:30:42.120 you know what I mean? Like, you can't fake making 0:30:42.160 --> 0:30:45.520 people care. Man, the records gotta connect if they don't connect, 0:30:45.640 --> 0:30:47.360 keep making records. 0:30:46.840 --> 0:30:52.000 Right, who's the upper couple of artists you listening to me? 0:30:52.640 --> 0:30:55.760 Oh man, it's a couple of cats from from VA 0:30:55.880 --> 0:30:56.840 that I'm checking now. 0:30:56.920 --> 0:30:57.640 It's a cat and they. 0:30:57.720 --> 0:31:01.160 Noah, oh, he do a lot of stuff in this Noah, 0:31:01.200 --> 0:31:04.520 like you know, hey, h dash oh look him up, 0:31:04.680 --> 0:31:12.200 don't don't a couple of cases can Michael Millions. He's 0:31:12.200 --> 0:31:15.320 a good engineer and he's a dope MC radio b 0:31:15.760 --> 0:31:18.640 It was a few casts from my city that have 0:31:18.640 --> 0:31:21.320 have have put their clan. They lyricists, you know what 0:31:21.320 --> 0:31:24.480 I'm saying. They care about bars and and this line connecting. 0:31:24.520 --> 0:31:28.240 It's not just oh I gotta catch you help, it's 0:31:28.360 --> 0:31:30.080 it's it's some people that are still trying to keep 0:31:30.080 --> 0:31:31.360 the lyricism thing alive. 0:31:31.400 --> 0:31:33.240 And I appreciate that as an MC. 0:31:33.720 --> 0:31:36.240 Now just wait, do we think that the Kendrick and 0:31:36.360 --> 0:31:41.200 Drake thing is enough to bring back that into the. 0:31:41.400 --> 0:31:45.640 Enough because we already back to the stupid records. But 0:31:45.640 --> 0:31:52.640 but but Kendrick rapped circles like he rapped it was 0:31:52.960 --> 0:31:54.920 and it was so it was so crazy listened to 0:31:54.960 --> 0:31:56.800 him because even when I listened to one record, he 0:31:56.800 --> 0:31:58.320 would change his voice full time. 0:31:58.480 --> 0:31:59.960 I felt like I was listening to four people. 0:32:00.400 --> 0:32:05.200 So I'm like, oh, that's four different money. I'm saying, like, so, 0:32:06.200 --> 0:32:08.400 I don't know if Kendrick and and and the Drakes 0:32:08.440 --> 0:32:09.960 and the j Coles are enough, because you. 0:32:09.960 --> 0:32:11.600 Know, back in the day, we had way more than 0:32:11.920 --> 0:32:13.040 three lyrics. Three. 0:32:13.480 --> 0:32:15.080 You couldn't get a zeal, if you didn't have a 0:32:15.080 --> 0:32:17.000 good bars deal, if you couldn't get a ball. 0:32:17.440 --> 0:32:18.880 They didn't sign this ship. 0:32:19.240 --> 0:32:21.440 But you know, it's a change of climate, man, And 0:32:21.480 --> 0:32:25.120 I'll never be I never discontinue with disrespect a young 0:32:25.160 --> 0:32:27.760 black man that's helping his family get out the hood, 0:32:28.160 --> 0:32:30.560 get his mom a crib, helping us to go to school. 0:32:30.560 --> 0:32:32.440 I don't know what kind of music he made, you 0:32:32.480 --> 0:32:34.320 know what I'm saying. If you did that for your family, 0:32:34.400 --> 0:32:36.760 off of that one little song you did, I got 0:32:36.840 --> 0:32:40.760 love for you, young man. I just hope, God, I 0:32:40.880 --> 0:32:43.560 hope you realize that as you make more music, it's 0:32:43.600 --> 0:32:44.800 more to you than just that. 0:32:45.280 --> 0:32:47.200 Well, it's not the sorry, it's not the creator. I 0:32:47.200 --> 0:32:49.840 don't I don't ever felt the creator or someone that's 0:32:49.880 --> 0:32:52.720 making the music that might do its thing. It's the 0:32:52.920 --> 0:32:56.120 audience that's changed what they like, the appetite of what 0:32:56.120 --> 0:32:57.680 they're into, you know, and it used to be where 0:32:57.880 --> 0:33:01.200 they were more cerebral and then went way far from that. 0:33:01.520 --> 0:33:04.120 I just did a project, maybe like two weeks ago. 0:33:04.160 --> 0:33:06.920 I put out a spoken word project, and it's more 0:33:07.000 --> 0:33:07.720 like poetry. 0:33:08.120 --> 0:33:09.120 Like it ain't even I'm. 0:33:09.040 --> 0:33:11.760 Not even rapping what spoken word is poetry? 0:33:12.520 --> 0:33:15.959 Yeah, but it's it's called the Seven Number Ones. But 0:33:16.000 --> 0:33:18.840 it's it's almost like some of the stuff was so personal. 0:33:18.960 --> 0:33:21.560 I just felt more compelled to just say it than 0:33:21.600 --> 0:33:22.480 to try to wrap it. 0:33:23.040 --> 0:33:23.760 You know what I'm saying. 0:33:24.040 --> 0:33:26.600 I just took another lane and I like to see 0:33:26.640 --> 0:33:29.479 all this grow and try new things, Like because you 0:33:29.520 --> 0:33:31.080 get stagged the man, you don't want to keep doing 0:33:31.120 --> 0:33:33.320 the same shit over and over again. That's why I 0:33:33.360 --> 0:33:35.120 quit the wrap up, you know what I'm saying. 0:33:35.760 --> 0:33:38.280 You know, if somebody told me sorry, bounced around real quick. 0:33:38.520 --> 0:33:42.360 You know who the real ultimate winner is of Drake 0:33:42.480 --> 0:33:46.640 and Kendrick. You know, they both on the same same label, 0:33:47.360 --> 0:33:49.800 ultimately Republic. 0:33:51.160 --> 0:33:52.320 Universe, the universe. 0:33:52.480 --> 0:33:54.680 Someone that was in the system so me that nothing 0:33:54.760 --> 0:33:58.120 was moving while they was battling, like they put everything 0:33:58.200 --> 0:34:00.960 into my home. I think that I think that with 0:34:01.160 --> 0:34:05.160 l L and Cannabis. I see death Jam go crazy. 0:34:06.080 --> 0:34:10.520 I see Death Jam go crazy. When John and dmxics 0:34:10.520 --> 0:34:13.479 beef and they're on the same label. You think record 0:34:13.560 --> 0:34:15.799 labels benefit, of course. 0:34:15.840 --> 0:34:17.720 But I'm gonna be honest with you. 0:34:17.840 --> 0:34:19.440 Let me give them a regular label, a little bit 0:34:19.480 --> 0:34:22.919 of credit, a little bit of credit. I don't think 0:34:22.920 --> 0:34:26.520 they start the beefs, but I think once the beefs start, 0:34:26.640 --> 0:34:28.520 they know how to like answer. 0:34:28.680 --> 0:34:30.000 I don't know. I think some of them have been 0:34:30.000 --> 0:34:31.520 instigated by labels. 0:34:31.320 --> 0:34:34.200 Maybe instigated, but I don't think full flex starts. 0:34:33.760 --> 0:34:38.600 A businessman as a businessman, if I start Coke and 0:34:38.680 --> 0:34:41.240 I see how well Coke does, I'm talking about Coca Cola. 0:34:41.520 --> 0:34:52.480 It's only Miami. I'm sorry. I'm a smart businessman. If 0:34:52.520 --> 0:34:55.680 I start Pepsi too, you know what I mean? Like 0:34:55.719 --> 0:34:58.520 the what's the old fat guy that died in prison 0:34:58.560 --> 0:35:03.719 that started the Backstreet Boy? He started the Backstreet Boys 0:35:03.760 --> 0:35:05.759 and he made that competition. 0:35:05.840 --> 0:35:07.560 They didn't even know they was on the same. 0:35:08.000 --> 0:35:11.920 They just said from Fore's on boy Nego. They just 0:35:11.920 --> 0:35:16.680 said that Negos got accused of putting out ice cream 0:35:16.800 --> 0:35:20.400 or bababe or whatever. And then he also controlled the 0:35:20.440 --> 0:35:23.880 bootleggers like he was making the bootleg Listen. 0:35:24.560 --> 0:35:25.080 It's hard. 0:35:25.760 --> 0:35:29.160 That's when you are moving in that type of space. 0:35:29.680 --> 0:35:32.600 It's only right that you think bigger. You know what 0:35:32.640 --> 0:35:36.160 I'm saying, Like think big man, like stop thinking small. 0:35:36.400 --> 0:35:39.040 Put put your own competition out there. It's crazy. We 0:35:39.400 --> 0:35:41.680 only have no no male groups. I said to my 0:35:41.760 --> 0:35:43.560 other we only had no male singers one when he 0:35:43.640 --> 0:35:47.200 got a group, ain't no new addition, no no, no 0:35:47.320 --> 0:35:50.439 type of boys. Man, we don't even have. We don't 0:35:50.480 --> 0:35:53.040 have none of that. And I feel like every eight 0:35:53.160 --> 0:35:55.520 or nine years, we should it should happen, you know 0:35:55.520 --> 0:35:57.160 what I'm saying, should be a boy group out right 0:35:57.200 --> 0:36:00.279 now killing it outside of one more shot to one more, 0:36:00.320 --> 0:36:02.759 which is one ye from boys the men. He got 0:36:02.760 --> 0:36:05.680 four sons and they killing it. But that's it. I mean, 0:36:05.719 --> 0:36:06.960 groups have gone away completely. 0:36:07.000 --> 0:36:10.720 Yeah, don't body want ship the money more? And that's crazy, 0:36:10.719 --> 0:36:14.840 that's crazy. You think about right now, probably Bro's brothers. 0:36:14.880 --> 0:36:17.240 There's probably three brothers right now that grew up together 0:36:17.360 --> 0:36:20.480 in Tallahassee and they probably can sing their ass off. 0:36:20.480 --> 0:36:22.239 They don't even want to split the money with their brother. 0:36:22.880 --> 0:36:25.480 It's like, will we ever have another wu Tang clan, like, right, 0:36:25.520 --> 0:36:25.959 that's true. 0:36:25.960 --> 0:36:29.080 It maybe what the young the only one? 0:36:29.320 --> 0:36:31.960 Now I think it was maybe what flat flat Bush zombies? 0:36:32.560 --> 0:36:37.280 Then before that our future who odd future? But migos, 0:36:37.320 --> 0:36:39.120 is it not only three? 0:36:39.160 --> 0:36:42.120 And then they ain't even maybe a littlan you just 0:36:42.120 --> 0:36:47.840 stay over there, spit three niggas, come on, man a 0:36:47.960 --> 0:36:50.000 vegan pizza, come on? 0:36:50.440 --> 0:36:51.960 Just who was different? 0:36:52.040 --> 0:36:54.279 But I think a lot of signs we get people 0:36:54.280 --> 0:36:56.040 they don't even want to be clicked up because they 0:36:56.160 --> 0:36:57.800 like I got split it with homie and Homie I 0:36:57.800 --> 0:37:00.359 don't want to do that. So now that's I think 0:37:00.360 --> 0:37:01.960 that's why we get so many songs. But it's just 0:37:02.000 --> 0:37:03.160 like a solo artist. 0:37:03.320 --> 0:37:05.359 You don't think labels also is just they don't want 0:37:05.360 --> 0:37:06.560 to deal with groups anymore either. 0:37:06.560 --> 0:37:08.520 I think, say, bro, if something come across fire and 0:37:08.520 --> 0:37:11.279 it's and it's already blowing up, it would make sense 0:37:11.320 --> 0:37:13.839 for them, like, let me find two singers that could 0:37:13.880 --> 0:37:17.560 just sing like we'll never have another shot today, you 0:37:17.640 --> 0:37:19.200 know what I mean, Like the day's over. 0:37:20.000 --> 0:37:22.040 It's crazy. Don't nobody want to share nothing? 0:37:23.120 --> 0:37:26.439 Do you feel like you got discovered by Q tip? Yes? 0:37:26.160 --> 0:37:30.560 Yes, hands down, he said, And yeah I wouldn't be 0:37:30.600 --> 0:37:32.960 here without them. Shout to tryal request getting it ducked 0:37:33.000 --> 0:37:41.319 into the rock and rolls. That's right, yeah, so and 0:37:41.360 --> 0:37:44.160 shout to you know, I leave jerobe. 0:37:46.719 --> 0:37:47.440 Yeatnam Man. 0:37:47.600 --> 0:37:50.080 I definitely I owe a lot to that man, you 0:37:50.120 --> 0:37:53.200 know what I'm saying. And I'm very grateful that he 0:37:53.320 --> 0:37:56.080 pulled me out of that tree and he said, spinc 0:37:56.120 --> 0:37:58.400 some balls, you know what I'm saying. I wouldn't have 0:37:58.440 --> 0:38:00.600 it wouldn't have been no Mad Skills without that moment. 0:38:00.719 --> 0:38:02.879 So I'm happy that it happened, you know what I'm saying. 0:38:02.920 --> 0:38:05.799 Shout the Q tip, the abstract poetic little sin. 0:38:06.480 --> 0:38:08.920 Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's impressions. Yo. 0:38:09.000 --> 0:38:11.479 Can we put up that clip? That's so the group chat, 0:38:11.719 --> 0:38:14.759 the second clip, not the first one from the show. 0:38:15.120 --> 0:38:17.480 Yeah. Then later on because. 0:38:17.360 --> 0:38:18.680 I remember I said I didn't know if I had 0:38:18.680 --> 0:38:19.120 his number. 0:38:19.320 --> 0:38:21.239 Yeah, I got check and you was like, YO, make 0:38:21.320 --> 0:38:23.160 that call now you got your number, and I was like, 0:38:23.160 --> 0:38:24.240 I don't think you're gonna answer. 0:38:24.480 --> 0:38:27.960 You made We thought you thought he had you blocked. 0:38:28.160 --> 0:38:32.080 Yeah, but it was not blocked, and he picked up 0:38:32.360 --> 0:38:34.520 y'all kicked it, y'all checked it, chopped it up. 0:38:35.000 --> 0:38:36.239 I believe you said one tear. 0:38:36.600 --> 0:38:37.320 Yeah, I believe it. 0:38:37.840 --> 0:38:39.799 I tell the dope moment, Now, that was dope. That 0:38:39.840 --> 0:38:40.399 was a dope moment. 0:38:40.960 --> 0:38:43.320 We hadn't talked in like almost ten years. 0:38:43.520 --> 0:38:44.719 That was a dope moment for us. 0:38:44.800 --> 0:38:47.240 But to be honest with you, that was a personal 0:38:47.239 --> 0:38:51.520 moment for you and him. So since the show, you know, 0:38:51.800 --> 0:38:55.680 we're trying to do our more. We check up ship. Yeah, yeah, 0:38:56.000 --> 0:38:58.960 what happened six years ago. I definitely have connected with him. 0:38:58.960 --> 0:39:00.399 We talked. We talked a lot. 0:39:01.080 --> 0:39:03.960 I went up to his crib and we spun like 0:39:03.960 --> 0:39:07.040 a DJ set together, like a you know, four turntables 0:39:07.040 --> 0:39:07.560 too two. 0:39:07.560 --> 0:39:08.719 He went back and forth. He do it. 0:39:08.719 --> 0:39:13.200 He does a stream on his on his platform. And 0:39:13.560 --> 0:39:14.880 I went up there and hung out with him. It 0:39:14.960 --> 0:39:16.680 was just good to see him, man. You know, it's 0:39:17.000 --> 0:39:17.640 that's the homie. 0:39:17.680 --> 0:39:18.560 Man. I love that dude. 0:39:19.040 --> 0:39:22.040 I told the world I filled up. I filled up 0:39:22.040 --> 0:39:24.839 to passpars. I seen the world messing with you as 0:39:24.840 --> 0:39:28.239 he Jeff Man. So it's super dope, super dope dude. Man, 0:39:28.320 --> 0:39:28.799 I love him. 0:39:28.880 --> 0:39:32.640 You know what I'm saying. My brother, let me tell 0:39:32.680 --> 0:39:33.120 you something. 0:39:34.000 --> 0:39:36.719 So I wrote on the jet with him. 0:39:37.760 --> 0:39:38.840 Yeah, yeah, I saw that picture. 0:39:38.880 --> 0:39:41.719 Yeah, and then so I believe it's a dead back 0:39:42.040 --> 0:39:43.640 the way back. It was just being him and I 0:39:44.280 --> 0:39:46.359 didn't want him to ask me about that movement because 0:39:46.360 --> 0:39:51.799 I didn't know if that But what's crazy that this is. 0:39:51.760 --> 0:39:54.240 How you know this man been all over the world. 0:39:55.120 --> 0:39:59.560 His wife opens up like a package or something. She 0:39:59.680 --> 0:40:01.840 had every charger. 0:40:02.400 --> 0:40:06.920 Ever made, all the adapters. That's that's the charger. You 0:40:07.000 --> 0:40:07.799 understood what I said. 0:40:08.000 --> 0:40:11.719 She had Germany, even though they probably the same, you 0:40:11.719 --> 0:40:12.640 know what I'm trying to say. 0:40:13.080 --> 0:40:15.399 A different I was like, yo, I was like, cause 0:40:15.400 --> 0:40:15.680 I was. 0:40:15.719 --> 0:40:18.200 I was like, I was getting up and I was like, 0:40:18.239 --> 0:40:20.840 I'm gonna go to my seat and get my charger. 0:40:21.000 --> 0:40:23.880 She was like, I got you. I looked at I 0:40:23.920 --> 0:40:26.360 was like, what the fun every day? That's how you 0:40:26.400 --> 0:40:29.120 know of a person just well traveled man. 0:40:29.760 --> 0:40:31.360 What's the favorite place you've been to? 0:40:32.680 --> 0:40:37.440 I'll probably say Australia. Australia was clean. It was the 0:40:37.520 --> 0:40:41.000 cleanest city I ever seen. Couldn't believe clean and clean. 0:40:40.800 --> 0:40:42.040 And diesel kangaroos. 0:40:42.280 --> 0:40:49.440 Yes. Sydney, Sydney, Australia. Thailand. We got beautiful beaches there. 0:40:49.760 --> 0:40:50.799 Place called food cut. 0:40:52.080 --> 0:40:54.480 These are places you performed at Yeah okay. 0:40:54.960 --> 0:40:56.839 And I Love La. 0:40:57.040 --> 0:40:58.920 I got a love a spy in La, so I 0:40:59.040 --> 0:41:02.600 go back and between her A v A. But yeah, man, 0:41:02.719 --> 0:41:05.080 Australia was probably one of the most pretty and kate 0:41:05.200 --> 0:41:13.239 town with with with the mountains and the cliffs. 0:41:14.360 --> 0:41:18.120 You did our show before we give your flowers, but 0:41:18.200 --> 0:41:20.960 we need to give your flowers physically face to face. 0:41:22.440 --> 0:41:25.839 Yes, what that you came before we started? Yes, yes, 0:41:26.320 --> 0:41:28.120 well bro, let me tell you something. Skills. 0:41:28.200 --> 0:41:30.799 When we made this show is to give people like you, 0:41:30.920 --> 0:41:32.759 people who staid. 0:41:32.440 --> 0:41:35.600 The test of time, who stood the test of time and. 0:41:35.600 --> 0:41:38.879 Motherfuckers stood on your motherfucking monkey foot and motherfucking did 0:41:38.880 --> 0:41:41.160 what you gotta do, and you dedicated your life to 0:41:41.239 --> 0:41:44.319 hip hop, and hip hop recognizes that we love you, 0:41:44.360 --> 0:41:45.400 we respect you. 0:41:45.440 --> 0:41:46.040 Want to keep. 0:41:51.320 --> 0:41:53.759 Yeah. Yeah, I saw y'all get somebody else this and 0:41:53.800 --> 0:41:56.680 I was like, damn, I ain't get that before we 0:41:56.760 --> 0:41:58.640 started the traditional Yeah. 0:41:59.040 --> 0:42:00.880 Now this is dope. Man. I'm just gonna go up 0:42:00.920 --> 0:42:02.800 in the studio. This is this is power. 0:42:03.120 --> 0:42:06.920 But let me ask you a quick question. Right, this 0:42:06.960 --> 0:42:10.239 is me going through your disciography. Right, you clearly can 0:42:10.320 --> 0:42:13.799 make any type of music right, whether it's even like 0:42:14.000 --> 0:42:18.080 club music, girl music, street music, you know, bar music, whatever. 0:42:18.080 --> 0:42:18.400 Whatever. 0:42:19.600 --> 0:42:22.680 Do you think that the fact that because some some 0:42:22.920 --> 0:42:27.359 like like some bars, even me knowing the record, I 0:42:27.400 --> 0:42:29.080 have to go back and be like, oh, ship. 0:42:28.880 --> 0:42:30.920 That's what the fuck he meant? Like And this is 0:42:31.080 --> 0:42:32.640 years later, like and I'm. 0:42:32.440 --> 0:42:36.600 An EMC right and sometimes you go over me right. 0:42:37.360 --> 0:42:39.360 Do you think that was Do you think that was 0:42:39.400 --> 0:42:42.279 a plus for your career or you think that might 0:42:42.320 --> 0:42:46.320 have been one of the parts because you might have 0:42:46.360 --> 0:42:47.560 been the smartest guy in the. 0:42:47.840 --> 0:42:51.200 Place and like the smart kid in the in the 0:42:51.239 --> 0:42:51.880 slow class. 0:42:52.280 --> 0:42:57.239 Yeah, you know what I mean. Resource room Right now, 0:42:57.520 --> 0:43:01.839 I really feel like I've realized once I made that transition, man, 0:43:01.880 --> 0:43:06.120 I realized that people like what I say, they just 0:43:06.160 --> 0:43:09.560 don't necessarily have to hear it coming from me, you 0:43:09.640 --> 0:43:10.240 know what I'm saying. 0:43:10.320 --> 0:43:11.480 So once I. 0:43:11.520 --> 0:43:15.880 Realized that and that light bulb went off, I realized 0:43:15.920 --> 0:43:19.040 that I could write anything and people call you know 0:43:19.080 --> 0:43:23.200 what I'm saying, and ask for things, and sometimes there's 0:43:23.200 --> 0:43:25.719 things that I can't even fathom that I get a 0:43:25.800 --> 0:43:31.680 chance to do. And as much as people like sticking 0:43:31.760 --> 0:43:34.600 to me for this, it was all for the wrap up, 0:43:34.800 --> 0:43:37.400 you know what, I'm saying like the wrap Up was 0:43:38.480 --> 0:43:39.600 a creation that. 0:43:40.040 --> 0:43:43.160 Came the wrap Up. 0:43:43.200 --> 0:43:46.040 Okay, it was something that you know, it started and 0:43:46.880 --> 0:43:49.600 people ran with it and did their own versions of it, 0:43:49.680 --> 0:43:51.680 and you know what I'm saying, but that that whole 0:43:51.719 --> 0:43:54.120 thing started on like stretching Bobido. I started did a 0:43:54.160 --> 0:43:57.319 stretch of Bobido freestyle like ninety three. It goes that 0:43:57.400 --> 0:44:00.799 far back, like from just some tying things together, got that, 0:44:00.880 --> 0:44:01.560 you know what I'm saying. 0:44:01.640 --> 0:44:03.600 So that started in ninety three. 0:44:03.719 --> 0:44:05.760 So now we in twenty twenty four, and I almost 0:44:05.800 --> 0:44:09.279 look at it like how many motherfuckers did something in 0:44:09.400 --> 0:44:12.000 ninety three and they could still do it in twenty 0:44:12.040 --> 0:44:15.520 twenty four. Jordan can't jump from the file line no more. 0:44:15.920 --> 0:44:18.840 That shit ain't happening. Shack can't post up in the 0:44:18.920 --> 0:44:21.399 paint like he used to. So for me, when those 0:44:21.480 --> 0:44:25.160 calls come, it's because I was able to do that. 0:44:25.239 --> 0:44:27.880 Like even when the whole Rock and Roll Hall of 0:44:27.880 --> 0:44:31.160 Fame shit came in, like I didn't. 0:44:30.840 --> 0:44:33.839 I was like, I don't know if I could do this, 0:44:34.560 --> 0:44:36.680 but it turned into something. 0:44:36.680 --> 0:44:40.000 And once I saw all of those people Iris El 0:44:40.040 --> 0:44:43.200 but Lisa Keys, Chris Rock, Kevin Hart, saying all them 0:44:43.320 --> 0:44:45.960 jay Z lines, and then I saw a blue ivy 0:44:46.000 --> 0:44:48.120 at the end and I was like, I did that. 0:44:48.640 --> 0:44:49.200 You know what I'm saying. 0:44:49.239 --> 0:44:51.960 I created that that call came because Yo, we know 0:44:52.040 --> 0:44:54.600 when it comes to this hip hop shit, you the 0:44:54.719 --> 0:44:57.239 dude that could connect them doves. That's how I ended 0:44:57.320 --> 0:45:00.080 up working with NAS and Massive Pill for the and 0:45:00.120 --> 0:45:02.680 the wrap up last year that the BT Awards, like, 0:45:03.080 --> 0:45:04.680 you don't get them calls if you're not. 0:45:04.719 --> 0:45:05.680 Good at what you do. 0:45:06.280 --> 0:45:10.440 And I'd imagine in answering to what you're asking that 0:45:10.520 --> 0:45:15.280 if you're a top tier lyricist, it's easier to come 0:45:15.320 --> 0:45:18.640 down from that creatively than to be to have no 0:45:18.760 --> 0:45:20.759 lyrical ability and try to scale up. 0:45:20.840 --> 0:45:23.200 Right, what I'm saying, like that jay Z shit. I 0:45:23.200 --> 0:45:24.799 did that jay Z rock and Roll Hall of Fame 0:45:24.840 --> 0:45:25.880 shit in nine days. 0:45:26.200 --> 0:45:26.600 Wow? 0:45:27.360 --> 0:45:32.719 Like that that that happened fast, like Questlove call curated. 0:45:32.840 --> 0:45:34.160 I wrote it? Okay wow? 0:45:35.000 --> 0:45:40.640 Right? So so Questlove called because jay Z's getting inducted 0:45:40.680 --> 0:45:42.719 into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and you 0:45:42.800 --> 0:45:44.960 can't put an artist up there and let them do 0:45:45.760 --> 0:45:48.880 allow me to reintroduce myself. That shit is corny, So 0:45:49.400 --> 0:45:52.359 they have to figure out a way to tribute jay Z, 0:45:52.680 --> 0:45:55.560 so jay Z will come because jay Z's like, I'm 0:45:55.560 --> 0:45:58.560 not gone, and they're like, yo, it's the rock and 0:45:58.640 --> 0:46:00.880 Roll Hall of Fame, like you you have to go, 0:46:01.040 --> 0:46:03.080 and you know, Hope He's like, I don't, I don't. 0:46:02.880 --> 0:46:06.919 Gotta do shit's with him and got inducted. No, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay. 0:46:07.040 --> 0:46:11.319 So that that video montage that played with all the celebrities. 0:46:10.760 --> 0:46:12.160 I wrote that word for word. 0:46:12.239 --> 0:46:15.200 Oh wow, so quest Love calls and it was weird 0:46:15.200 --> 0:46:17.080 because I was in a barber shop and he's like, yo, 0:46:17.560 --> 0:46:20.759 when when did you stop listening to jay Z? I 0:46:20.840 --> 0:46:24.560 was like what He's like, when did you stop listening 0:46:24.560 --> 0:46:28.720 to Hop? I was like, I said, what's the context 0:46:28.719 --> 0:46:31.239 of the question. He said, I remember you saying back 0:46:31.280 --> 0:46:33.399 in the day, like you used to you could hear 0:46:33.440 --> 0:46:35.800 a jay Z song one time and quote the balls. 0:46:36.480 --> 0:46:37.759 I was like, yeah, back he was. 0:46:37.880 --> 0:46:39.560 He was I used to love when Hope would get 0:46:39.680 --> 0:46:41.359 mad at niggas, like you know what I mean, Like 0:46:41.440 --> 0:46:43.400 when he was mad at Jimmy, was mad that he 0:46:43.440 --> 0:46:44.359 was a different guy. 0:46:44.640 --> 0:46:45.759 He really talked and ship. 0:46:46.080 --> 0:46:49.160 So I said, maybe, like I said, the last thing 0:46:49.239 --> 0:46:51.239 I really enjoyed was maybe four four four. 0:46:51.520 --> 0:46:52.720 It was super dope. 0:46:52.880 --> 0:46:54.799 He was like, Okay, cool, I need you to do 0:46:55.640 --> 0:46:58.560 your thing, your wrap up stretching my beetle things, but 0:46:58.560 --> 0:46:59.640 I need you to do it with all of the 0:46:59.719 --> 0:47:05.160 Quinn Central jay Z lines. And I'm like, I said, okay, 0:47:05.200 --> 0:47:06.719 that's that's gonna be fine. He said, IM about to 0:47:06.719 --> 0:47:08.840 pisch the Beyond. I'm about to piss the idea to Beyonce. 0:47:09.280 --> 0:47:11.080 So I'm like, okay, that'll be dope, he said, but 0:47:11.120 --> 0:47:14.239 I need it in nine days. And I'm like, y' 0:47:14.280 --> 0:47:15.880 I don't know if I could pull that off. So 0:47:15.920 --> 0:47:17.560 he's like, well, you might not have to. She might 0:47:17.600 --> 0:47:20.440 say no. So I'm I'm gonna hit you back, so 0:47:20.480 --> 0:47:23.000 he hits me back. He's like, Beyonce says she'll do it, 0:47:23.520 --> 0:47:25.560 but she don't want to do it byself. She wants 0:47:25.600 --> 0:47:29.000 other artists to save Jay's lines. And I was like, oh, 0:47:29.080 --> 0:47:29.919 that should be fire. 0:47:30.000 --> 0:47:30.600 He was like, yeah. 0:47:30.600 --> 0:47:35.239 So you're on the clock and I'm like, fun, so 0:47:35.360 --> 0:47:38.880 I'm listening to I'm listening to Dots affects, hole fucking 0:47:39.520 --> 0:47:41.920 can I get open? Stick your finger in the dyke 0:47:41.960 --> 0:47:44.160 and all like all of these I start there and 0:47:44.200 --> 0:47:46.480 I'm all the way up to four four four, so 0:47:46.560 --> 0:47:48.320 all of the quintessential lines. 0:47:48.760 --> 0:47:49.960 I will not lose. 0:47:50.560 --> 0:47:53.040 It's about to go down like all of those lines. 0:47:55.320 --> 0:47:59.480 So so he starts hitting me, and once I got 0:47:59.480 --> 0:48:02.959 the piece together, now it's the double entendre of. 0:48:02.920 --> 0:48:04.560 Who's gonna say the lines? 0:48:05.960 --> 0:48:09.919 So Beyonce is gonna say, what's better than one billionaire? 0:48:10.160 --> 0:48:11.719 Two? You know what I mean? 0:48:11.800 --> 0:48:16.160 Like Dave Chappelle was gonna say, they say words are weapons, 0:48:16.200 --> 0:48:18.160 so when you shoot meets you death in less than 0:48:18.200 --> 0:48:22.439 eight seconds. So then the impart was David let Himan 0:48:22.560 --> 0:48:26.520 says David. They tell David Letniman, you gonna say I 0:48:26.680 --> 0:48:31.480 keep one eye open like CBS. And he's like that 0:48:31.480 --> 0:48:34.040 that's y'all want me to say that. Why that's not 0:48:34.080 --> 0:48:36.279 even a cool line. And they're like, no, no, no, 0:48:36.360 --> 0:48:39.759 If you say I keep one eye open like CBS, 0:48:39.800 --> 0:48:42.080 it's gonna be the coolest line of the whole ship. 0:48:43.040 --> 0:48:46.400 So Jay Jay is at the Rock and Roll Hall 0:48:46.440 --> 0:48:47.040 of Fame thing. 0:48:47.040 --> 0:48:49.600 Let me ask you just j not this is going on? No, okay, 0:48:49.640 --> 0:48:50.680 so this is no clue. 0:48:51.160 --> 0:48:53.680 He has no clue. So Jay goes to the Rock 0:48:53.680 --> 0:48:54.479 and Roll Hall of Fame. 0:48:54.520 --> 0:48:58.040 They do the thing and he just he's sitting there 0:48:58.480 --> 0:49:01.400 with Jay brann all him and this montage just comes 0:49:01.480 --> 0:49:05.080 up and. 0:49:03.840 --> 0:49:05.040 It starts with Beyonce. 0:49:05.560 --> 0:49:07.600 So they got the camera hole and they got the 0:49:07.640 --> 0:49:09.200 camera and thing, this is in the this is where 0:49:09.200 --> 0:49:11.960 the Cavaliers players. Thirty thousand people in there. So you're 0:49:11.960 --> 0:49:13.360 watching it live Cleveland. 0:49:13.680 --> 0:49:14.360 So boom. 0:49:14.480 --> 0:49:16.920 So they running through the lines and he got this 0:49:17.040 --> 0:49:18.120 look on his face like. 0:49:19.719 --> 0:49:22.760 Wow, and it's you know what I mean, it's Samuel Jackson, 0:49:22.800 --> 0:49:23.840 it's Tyler Perry. 0:49:23.600 --> 0:49:25.200 It's every it's black Hollywood. 0:49:25.400 --> 0:49:28.480 And they all saying my words, my words inspired by 0:49:28.560 --> 0:49:30.280 Jay Z right. 0:49:30.320 --> 0:49:34.160 No, no, no, that one too, right. Yeah. 0:49:35.200 --> 0:49:38.200 So they get to they get to the end. 0:49:38.920 --> 0:49:41.400 They get to the end and Blue Ibby pops up 0:49:42.360 --> 0:49:46.880 and she says, congratts s Carter ghost writer for the 0:49:47.000 --> 0:49:50.480 right price, and you know, and it's like it's. 0:49:50.360 --> 0:49:51.200 A curse word in that. 0:49:51.480 --> 0:49:52.640 So Jay is looking like. 0:49:52.680 --> 0:49:57.920 Yours my child on the Jobo truck and then she 0:49:58.400 --> 0:50:00.480 says the line she says about we he made jo 0:50:00.560 --> 0:50:03.720 hits tighter yo. So he stops and he like looks 0:50:03.719 --> 0:50:07.640 like damn, they got me. So he does his speech 0:50:08.160 --> 0:50:10.040 and I'm in the crib I'm in VA. I'm at 0:50:10.040 --> 0:50:12.799 the crib. I don't see this happen live. I just 0:50:12.920 --> 0:50:15.279 it's in a little splits of beasts or whatever. So 0:50:15.320 --> 0:50:19.240 I wake up and it's like two in the morning 0:50:19.880 --> 0:50:21.680 and I got a text from quest Love. He was like, 0:50:21.880 --> 0:50:23.640 I said, how did it go? He said, Yo, he 0:50:23.760 --> 0:50:28.080 loved it. It was crazy. Jay tweets, he tweeted, and 0:50:28.160 --> 0:50:30.640 he don't really have a use tweeter like that. He tweeted, Yo, 0:50:30.640 --> 0:50:33.200 whoever made that video package? I'm a cry in the car. 0:50:33.280 --> 0:50:38.440 That was amazing. So I'm I'm like, damn, that's that's ill. 0:50:39.000 --> 0:50:40.759 So then I get a text from quest Love and 0:50:40.800 --> 0:50:44.799 he's like, yo, Jay about to hit you. So I'm like, yea, 0:50:44.800 --> 0:50:48.440 all right whatever, Like that's just right. So I go 0:50:48.560 --> 0:50:50.400 to sleep. It's two thirty in the morning. I go 0:50:50.520 --> 0:50:53.120 to sleep. I wake up in the morning. I got 0:50:53.120 --> 0:50:55.880 a text from Hole and I'm looking at it and 0:50:55.960 --> 0:50:56.560 I'm just like. 0:50:58.040 --> 0:50:59.320 Damn, what does it saying? 0:51:00.040 --> 0:51:04.080 I can't really tell you that. I mean like, like, yo, 0:51:04.120 --> 0:51:08.239 you did an amazing job. Like you did an amazing. 0:51:07.920 --> 0:51:12.520 It's like I can't tell you look at it. 0:51:09.360 --> 0:51:13.120 But I'm. 0:51:14.880 --> 0:51:17.719 You know what I'm saying y'all. But it's the top joint. 0:51:17.760 --> 0:51:21.359 But I'm waking up to text you hold and I'm like, yeah, 0:51:21.360 --> 0:51:24.799 that's how And I'm like, Yo, this is crazy, man 0:51:24.920 --> 0:51:28.440 like for Hole to say, Yo, what you did was brilliant, 0:51:28.440 --> 0:51:32.560 man Like amazing, you know what I'm saying, Like to. 0:51:33.840 --> 0:51:34.600 I'm fred. 0:51:37.960 --> 0:51:40.759 I can even hear the laugh, right, you know, you 0:51:40.760 --> 0:51:42.759 don't get from Hole every day. 0:51:43.280 --> 0:51:45.960 By the way he writes bars and texts. He's still 0:51:45.960 --> 0:51:49.840 writing bars. 0:51:48.280 --> 0:51:51.000 So man, so you know, for me to have that moment, 0:51:51.640 --> 0:51:54.400 and you know, rock and roll halls fame, that's forever. 0:51:54.960 --> 0:51:55.520 You know what I'm saying. 0:51:55.600 --> 0:51:58.560 Every year around his birthday they post that video, you 0:51:58.600 --> 0:51:59.960 know what I'm saying, and I just be sitting back 0:52:00.200 --> 0:52:02.799 like the proud father in the room, like yeah, I 0:52:02.840 --> 0:52:05.520 did that. And it says a lot that you got 0:52:05.560 --> 0:52:07.200 to call like a fucking superhero. 0:52:07.719 --> 0:52:10.200 We need this right, like quest loved the King of 0:52:10.360 --> 0:52:14.600 like ordination, because it's it's almost like, if you want 0:52:14.600 --> 0:52:16.120 to if you want hip hop, if you. 0:52:16.080 --> 0:52:19.120 Want to congratulate, to celebrate hip hop, and you wanted 0:52:19.200 --> 0:52:22.200 to be done right, it's only a few people you're 0:52:22.200 --> 0:52:23.200 gonna be able to call. 0:52:24.080 --> 0:52:27.200 I think it's a little less than for you, right, 0:52:27.640 --> 0:52:29.560 I mean, how did I think about it. 0:52:32.880 --> 0:52:37.480 Especially with proper historical context? Ouse, who else you expect 0:52:37.560 --> 0:52:39.560 enough that you think that could do this? 0:52:40.360 --> 0:52:44.879 Mm hmm, black thought could Okay, I thought. 0:52:45.320 --> 0:52:47.400 What I mean by that is like you're making it 0:52:47.440 --> 0:52:49.400 makes sense and didn't have the crowd participate. 0:52:49.480 --> 0:52:52.520 Like what you did at BT Awards was like. 0:52:52.680 --> 0:52:55.920 So fucking I know, I'm bouncing around, but it was 0:52:55.960 --> 0:52:59.120 so brilliant because you were showing love to the to 0:52:58.920 --> 0:53:01.239 the to the to the old school, but you was 0:53:01.400 --> 0:53:03.440 even showing the new school people that was dead that 0:53:03.520 --> 0:53:05.320 they actually subconstoantly knew this. 0:53:06.320 --> 0:53:09.960 Like I was watching this ship by the way there, Yeah, 0:53:10.000 --> 0:53:10.520 we were there. 0:53:10.600 --> 0:53:15.399 We were there, so so we were watching the old 0:53:15.400 --> 0:53:18.239 school people feel appreciated, but we were watching the new 0:53:18.239 --> 0:53:19.040 school people. 0:53:19.040 --> 0:53:20.279 Feel a part of it. 0:53:20.920 --> 0:53:25.480 I bridge the bridge in that gap like that, And 0:53:25.520 --> 0:53:28.520 I was like wow, and you you was I say 0:53:28.520 --> 0:53:30.080 this behind your backs, got to say it to your 0:53:30.120 --> 0:53:33.800 front face. You were so brilliant of using the lines 0:53:34.040 --> 0:53:37.399 that was like so so like like because you heard 0:53:37.400 --> 0:53:40.480 this in your mom's house university, they knew the hip 0:53:41.640 --> 0:53:43.399 even if they didn't know it, even if they never 0:53:43.440 --> 0:53:46.000 heard that record live or heard that record. If you 0:53:46.040 --> 0:53:47.960 say somebody that's grown up in hip hop, you have 0:53:48.080 --> 0:53:50.600 to Yeah. 0:53:50.960 --> 0:53:55.399 So that was that whole fifty fifty if year hip 0:53:55.400 --> 0:53:57.560 hop wrap up. I didn't even want to do that 0:53:57.600 --> 0:54:01.480 ship like when they called me. When when Jesse Collins 0:54:01.560 --> 0:54:02.040 called me. 0:54:02.719 --> 0:54:04.480 That's the guy that produces BT, he. 0:54:04.480 --> 0:54:07.719 Produces all of the awards shows. He called me and 0:54:07.760 --> 0:54:10.320 he was like yo. When he pitched it, He's like, 0:54:10.360 --> 0:54:11.799 I got an idea I want to pitch to you. 0:54:12.080 --> 0:54:12.799 I was like, what's up. 0:54:12.840 --> 0:54:15.440 He was like, I was thinking about a fifty year 0:54:15.520 --> 0:54:18.520 hip hop wrap up on the BET Awards and I 0:54:18.600 --> 0:54:20.759 was thinking maybe you could write it. And I was like, yeah, 0:54:20.880 --> 0:54:22.880 I could do that and he was like yeah, okay, cool. 0:54:23.239 --> 0:54:26.400 So let me know who your people is and I 0:54:26.400 --> 0:54:27.360 could make the connection. 0:54:27.440 --> 0:54:28.040 Da da da da. 0:54:28.080 --> 0:54:30.640 I was like, well, who who's in it? He was 0:54:30.680 --> 0:54:34.080 like it's for the BET Awards. I said yeah, but like, 0:54:34.200 --> 0:54:37.640 who's gonna who's in it? He was like, I was 0:54:37.680 --> 0:54:41.600 thinking you was in. I was like, I'll do it 0:54:41.640 --> 0:54:42.960 for you. I heard what you say. He was like yeah, 0:54:42.960 --> 0:54:44.760 he said, but it can't be no longer than two minutes. 0:54:44.880 --> 0:54:47.840 He said, I know. I know, asking for you to 0:54:47.920 --> 0:54:50.000 wrap up fifty years hip Hop in two minutes. I 0:54:50.000 --> 0:54:51.719 know you're gonna miss some shit. It's cool, but can 0:54:51.800 --> 0:54:53.640 you do it in two minutes? I was like yeah, 0:54:53.840 --> 0:54:57.680 I said, who, who's gonna say it? I'm still nice? 0:54:59.440 --> 0:55:00.319 I was right. 0:55:00.360 --> 0:55:00.640 Yeah. 0:55:00.760 --> 0:55:03.480 He was like, so you could knock it down, send 0:55:03.560 --> 0:55:04.280 me a draft. 0:55:04.520 --> 0:55:07.279 I'm gonna get you with Adam Blackstone and then we're 0:55:07.320 --> 0:55:09.759 gonna rehearse and then we're gonna shoot the awards on 0:55:09.800 --> 0:55:12.920 the twenty fifth. So I go, who's gonna say it? 0:55:13.680 --> 0:55:17.680 He was like you, I said, say what he said 0:55:17.680 --> 0:55:22.920 the rapper I said on BT. He was like yeah, 0:55:23.000 --> 0:55:27.279 I said live. He was like, yeah, we the was 0:55:27.360 --> 0:55:30.200 is live and you remember it this minute it was 0:55:30.440 --> 0:55:33.279 Remember it was a writer strike, so it wasn't no 0:55:33.400 --> 0:55:36.880 writer right, but they but if they if they didn't 0:55:36.920 --> 0:55:38.920 do the show, they would have missed the fiftieth year 0:55:39.040 --> 0:55:39.439 hip Hop. 0:55:40.160 --> 0:55:42.640 So he's like, I was thinking, you can do it. 0:55:42.680 --> 0:55:44.439 I was like, oh yeah, yeah. 0:55:44.480 --> 0:55:47.480 I said, well, yo, I had I had a gig 0:55:47.640 --> 0:55:51.200 with out of town, but let me call him and 0:55:51.239 --> 0:55:53.399 tell him I'm gonna have to cancel and I call 0:55:53.480 --> 0:55:55.600 you back. Let me just let me cancel this gig. 0:55:55.640 --> 0:55:57.520 He was like, all right, cool, hit me back this myself. 0:55:57.680 --> 0:55:59.440 I hang the phone up. I look at my man said, 0:55:59.440 --> 0:56:02.880 I'm not doing that shit. He was like, what do 0:56:02.920 --> 0:56:05.120 you mean? I said, Bro, I'm not getting on BT 0:56:05.280 --> 0:56:07.080 and doing no fifty year wrap up. 0:56:07.400 --> 0:56:09.359 He said, who else they gonna get to do it? 0:56:09.400 --> 0:56:11.600 Skill, I ain't gonna lot who's your man name? Let's 0:56:11.600 --> 0:56:17.120 pick him up money DJ Money exactly if I was 0:56:17.160 --> 0:56:18.640 in the car with you when you got that call, 0:56:18.719 --> 0:56:19.719 that's exactly how I. 0:56:19.760 --> 0:56:22.800 Show so much time the story goes. So he says, 0:56:23.560 --> 0:56:25.800 I said, bro, I can't do that. He was like why, 0:56:26.480 --> 0:56:29.839 I said, Bro, do you understand I've done the rap 0:56:29.920 --> 0:56:31.880 up for twenty years. Do you know what it's gonna 0:56:31.880 --> 0:56:34.120 look like if I get on TV and fuck up 0:56:34.160 --> 0:56:34.919 the wrap up? 0:56:36.040 --> 0:56:38.120 And he was like, you're not gonna fuck that shit up? 0:56:38.360 --> 0:56:39.920 I said, Bro, I don't know. 0:56:40.239 --> 0:56:41.600 I don't be boring like that. 0:56:41.719 --> 0:56:44.000 I just right. I ain't even I gotta do a 0:56:44.040 --> 0:56:47.080 red car. I'm not doing that shit. He's like, Nah, 0:56:47.080 --> 0:56:49.400 you gotta do it, Son, you gotta do it. So 0:56:49.440 --> 0:56:53.200 they talked me into it. I go to LA, I 0:56:53.239 --> 0:56:55.879 wrote it. I wrote a small piece and I did 0:56:55.920 --> 0:56:59.000 it over the instrumental for Maybag Music right, just as 0:56:59.000 --> 0:57:01.640 a skeleton, like this is what I wanted to sound like. 0:57:01.680 --> 0:57:04.600 I want the band to play some crazy strings. I 0:57:04.640 --> 0:57:07.719 wanted to sound ill that we're gonna I get there. 0:57:08.800 --> 0:57:10.680 They got the shoot on the on the Jumbo on 0:57:10.719 --> 0:57:13.440 the tail, the teleprompt. I ain't never fucking looked at 0:57:13.440 --> 0:57:17.640 a teleprompt. I'm rehearsing this ship. I'm reading the words 0:57:17.960 --> 0:57:20.480 the lady on the teleprompt that got the ship all back. 0:57:20.560 --> 0:57:24.160 But she got DJ cool flash after. 0:57:23.880 --> 0:57:24.800 The hand bottle. 0:57:25.240 --> 0:57:33.960 Like I'm spastic because I'm like, this ain't right, like so, 0:57:34.120 --> 0:57:36.200 but you know, oh, you get two minutes to rehearse, 0:57:36.240 --> 0:57:38.760 then we gotta go on to I'm like, y'all, bro, 0:57:38.800 --> 0:57:41.200 I'm not doing this ship. I'm telling about whole I 0:57:41.480 --> 0:57:43.120 got my whole squad, and I'm like, bro, I'm not 0:57:43.160 --> 0:57:45.120 doing this shit. I'm not going on TV and fucking 0:57:45.160 --> 0:57:47.480 up the round. I'm gonna be a mean bro. They 0:57:47.600 --> 0:57:49.840 gonna I'm gonna be playing for the rest of my life. 0:57:49.880 --> 0:57:51.800 They're like, nah, you got it, you got it. I 0:57:51.840 --> 0:57:53.760 go back to rehearsal the next day. She got the 0:57:53.840 --> 0:57:58.520 names right, but I still don't. I still don't like it. 0:57:58.560 --> 0:58:00.680 I'm like, yo, so, how's the big play like? Your 0:58:00.800 --> 0:58:04.479 skills ain't no band? I said, what you mean? Shout 0:58:04.520 --> 0:58:06.920 added black song? He said, Yo, it's just tracks. 0:58:07.480 --> 0:58:09.280 I said, well, Yo, what the fuck the nigga's over 0:58:09.320 --> 0:58:10.000 there with God. 0:58:09.920 --> 0:58:12.360 Last for He said, Oh, that's for Bust the tribute 0:58:12.400 --> 0:58:15.120 they doing, I said, I said, but it's not real. 0:58:15.800 --> 0:58:18.080 It's just the track. I said, Bro, you want me 0:58:18.160 --> 0:58:22.360 to do it over Mayback music? He was like, nigga, 0:58:22.600 --> 0:58:29.480 you got beef from Rick Rosses. I said, Bro, I 0:58:29.560 --> 0:58:31.760 fuck y'all was gonna play something live? He said, skills, 0:58:31.800 --> 0:58:34.080 It ain't no band, he said, trust me, just do 0:58:34.160 --> 0:58:36.520 it over the track. I'm like, if I do it 0:58:36.520 --> 0:58:39.000 over the track, then that means I gotta spit it. 0:58:39.000 --> 0:58:41.000 It's got to be on tempo. If I fuck up 0:58:41.040 --> 0:58:43.120 the beat, keep going with me. How far off from 0:58:43.120 --> 0:58:45.120 the show two days out? 0:58:46.840 --> 0:58:50.960 Bro, I'm walking around in my head. 0:58:50.880 --> 0:58:52.920 Just what I was saying, these balls over and over 0:58:52.920 --> 0:58:55.720 because I can't funk up on TV show day come. 0:58:56.720 --> 0:58:57.400 You know how they do. 0:58:57.480 --> 0:58:59.760 They keep They get you there at ten in the morning, 0:59:00.040 --> 0:59:03.360 they keep you there all fucking day. Then the show comes, 0:59:03.400 --> 0:59:05.360 they start whole skills, You're gonna take you to your 0:59:05.360 --> 0:59:07.360 see I ain't even a no award showing years. I 0:59:07.400 --> 0:59:10.040 see I see you on the red car. I'm like, yo, 0:59:10.600 --> 0:59:15.120 this is it's lit. I get there. I'm watching everybody 0:59:15.120 --> 0:59:17.920 else'll farm, d nice and see light. They're doing all 0:59:17.960 --> 0:59:20.720 the little tributes on the stage, kicking priest, everybody killing it. 0:59:20.760 --> 0:59:22.040 But they doing songs. 0:59:22.800 --> 0:59:26.560 I basically got two minutes acapella at the BT war. 0:59:28.600 --> 0:59:28.840 Right. 0:59:30.960 --> 0:59:33.760 I go back to the trailer. I got the track on. 0:59:33.920 --> 0:59:36.520 I'm walking around. I'm trying to remember the ship. Blah 0:59:36.520 --> 0:59:40.280 blahh holy this bitch on the teleprompter, don't fuck it up. 0:59:43.120 --> 0:59:46.240 Skills are ready for you, mad, skills are ready. I'm like, 0:59:46.440 --> 0:59:47.760 fuck all right. 0:59:47.800 --> 0:59:49.400 I throw my fitt on, my drippings on. 0:59:49.520 --> 0:59:50.320 I go out there. 0:59:50.720 --> 0:59:54.320 I walk over and Patty Lavelle standing next to me, 0:59:54.640 --> 0:59:57.040 which was last time I said she was shooting the 0:59:57.120 --> 1:00:04.040 day you got. I'm watching Patti LaBelle. Patty LeBell goes 1:00:04.080 --> 1:00:07.520 before me. I believe she did a Tina Turner tribute. 1:00:07.880 --> 1:00:11.160 Patti LaBelle goes on stage, starts singing Tina Turner and 1:00:11.200 --> 1:00:12.240 forgets the words. 1:00:14.120 --> 1:00:17.960 I look at Twitter they dragging Patty LaBelle. I'm like, 1:00:18.000 --> 1:00:19.160 but you think they're gonna. 1:00:22.760 --> 1:00:25.920 Because when we at home and we watch a tribute, 1:00:25.960 --> 1:00:27.800 the first thing you think is when somebody fuck up, 1:00:27.840 --> 1:00:30.120 they we'll be like this, this is a call so 1:00:30.160 --> 1:00:31.800 and so to do that, he would have nailed there, 1:00:32.440 --> 1:00:34.440 and like, Yo, how Patty up there sucking up the 1:00:34.440 --> 1:00:35.720 words to get Patty out of here? 1:00:35.720 --> 1:00:36.800 They should have called letisy. 1:00:36.840 --> 1:00:37.280 They should have. 1:00:37.560 --> 1:00:43.480 And I'm sitting there like, yo, skills, you up. They 1:00:43.520 --> 1:00:45.680 put me on the fucking joint. I'm sitting in the 1:00:45.680 --> 1:00:48.320 middle of the stage and you know how the awards are. 1:00:48.840 --> 1:00:51.760 We need everybody to their seats in one minute, motherfucker. Still, Yo, 1:00:51.880 --> 1:00:53.040 I'm gonna call you fan. 1:00:53.000 --> 1:00:58.439 Noise, don't around, don't don't hit my arm. 1:00:58.440 --> 1:01:02.120 Brother all this ship we're live in thirty minutes. I'm 1:01:02.160 --> 1:01:04.920 sitting there like saying the words back and forth, back 1:01:04.960 --> 1:01:08.960 and forth. All right, and we're on in China. They 1:01:09.000 --> 1:01:12.600 do the countdown. You hear MC light, go ladies and gentlemen, 1:01:12.720 --> 1:01:15.160 introducing mad Skills. 1:01:15.440 --> 1:01:16.200 I walk out. 1:01:17.120 --> 1:01:20.840 The fucking music starts playing and I look right in 1:01:20.840 --> 1:01:21.280 front of. 1:01:21.240 --> 1:01:25.440 Me and it's Buster Rhyme sitting right there with his family. 1:01:25.560 --> 1:01:28.360 And Bust they got the lifetime. 1:01:28.880 --> 1:01:31.840 So Buster is sitting there with his whole family. You 1:01:32.640 --> 1:01:41.600 can't the dudeon Dragon. I say the first line of 1:01:41.640 --> 1:01:44.280 the song a y'all was born in seventy three, not 1:01:44.400 --> 1:01:46.480 even she would realize what she would grow up to be. 1:01:46.840 --> 1:01:59.000 Buster goes facts, you know, and I just look at 1:01:59.040 --> 1:02:01.800 Buster and I just started saying the rest. It was 1:02:01.840 --> 1:02:04.920 almost like when we were in a cipher you spend 1:02:05.200 --> 1:02:08.320 with me, I said the whole shout out to Bust 1:02:08.320 --> 1:02:10.720 the rhymes. He probably don't even know how much he 1:02:10.840 --> 1:02:14.120 helped me that day because I. 1:02:14.680 --> 1:02:15.960 Ain't even looking at it. Tell Aprodum. 1:02:16.400 --> 1:02:19.160 I just I had somebody that was hip hop, h 1:02:19.280 --> 1:02:22.760 my lifeline, and I said it and I spitted the 1:02:22.800 --> 1:02:25.080 bus And when I got to the last line, you 1:02:25.120 --> 1:02:27.080 never thought that hip hop and bus was like take 1:02:27.120 --> 1:02:37.160 it this farm shot bus man. 1:02:37.240 --> 1:02:40.080 Because you know, I want to I'm gonna say skills 1:02:40.080 --> 1:02:43.720 you know, were a big of BT real quick because 1:02:43.720 --> 1:02:45.680 for the past couple of years, like them me even 1:02:45.720 --> 1:02:48.080 having you like to know that you you to curate 1:02:48.160 --> 1:02:52.000 that section and the Awards show, like their ward show, 1:02:52.000 --> 1:02:55.000 I've been going I'm not a war show guy, because 1:02:55.880 --> 1:02:57.240 I got a d D. You know what I mean, 1:02:57.280 --> 1:02:59.600 Like I move around too much, you know, from the 1:02:59.600 --> 1:03:02.840 resource room, special education, which up, y'all, you know what 1:03:02.880 --> 1:03:06.320 I mean. So you know I haven't I haven't been good, 1:03:06.360 --> 1:03:09.960 but I've been going these last years, and not only 1:03:10.480 --> 1:03:12.959 have they made me feel welcome, they got the getting 1:03:12.960 --> 1:03:18.640 it would say, I would say they ninety eight. Of 1:03:18.640 --> 1:03:20.640 course on the award show is always gonna be hiccups. 1:03:20.680 --> 1:03:23.560 It's it's gonna be an artist that wants yellow peanuts, 1:03:23.680 --> 1:03:24.520 you know what I'm saying, and. 1:03:26.840 --> 1:03:29.920 Purple grenades. You know what I'm saying, Little peanuts and 1:03:29.960 --> 1:03:32.040 purple grenades. Yeah, you know how that ship is. So 1:03:32.160 --> 1:03:32.680 you know what I mean. 1:03:32.720 --> 1:03:35.360 But they've been doing it and I wanted to big 1:03:35.440 --> 1:03:37.920 up you know, the whole bet staff man being professional 1:03:38.240 --> 1:03:42.200 and in that whole statu Yeah Jesse, Yeah, yeah, Jesse's doing. 1:03:42.000 --> 1:03:44.800 His thing and moving on. 1:03:44.880 --> 1:03:46.600 But you just picked him up. But I want a 1:03:46.600 --> 1:03:48.480 big mom because I spoke to him this morning. It's 1:03:48.520 --> 1:03:57.960 crazy because for years since recently, back then on Violator, 1:03:58.040 --> 1:04:00.520 we would both be late night guys like him, stay 1:04:00.520 --> 1:04:03.120 at the studio late, you know. Now I'm on early 1:04:03.200 --> 1:04:05.840 in the morning person like I'm up and me a 1:04:05.920 --> 1:04:09.560 bus I only speak the bus from five to seven 1:04:09.640 --> 1:04:13.920 in the morning, right and he's going in I'm waking up. 1:04:14.720 --> 1:04:16.680 So we've been missing each other. So the other day 1:04:16.720 --> 1:04:19.160 I just called them and I was just like, yo, man, 1:04:20.360 --> 1:04:21.960 and I was like, don't change the subject. 1:04:22.680 --> 1:04:23.960 And he was like, what do you mean. I was like, 1:04:23.960 --> 1:04:24.640 don't change this stuff. 1:04:24.800 --> 1:04:26.840 I know how you you reflect, you turn it back 1:04:26.840 --> 1:04:29.160 on me and I don't want the props right now. 1:04:29.360 --> 1:04:31.000 I want to just talk to you. And he was like, 1:04:31.040 --> 1:04:31.400 what's up. 1:04:31.440 --> 1:04:33.640 I was like, yo, I don't think there's no other 1:04:33.800 --> 1:04:36.160 artists doing it at the level that you're doing it 1:04:36.560 --> 1:04:41.080 for this long. He's selling our shows every fucking night. 1:04:41.160 --> 1:04:43.120 And I say, in your outfice looks like he's twenty 1:04:43.280 --> 1:04:48.120 fifty nine, Like he's not. He's in a few he passed, 1:04:48.560 --> 1:04:51.840 he passed me. He's on some different shit Like I'm 1:04:51.920 --> 1:04:54.240 I'm looking at it. I'm like, yo, I'm just proud 1:04:54.280 --> 1:04:55.720 of him and it's my friend. 1:04:55.840 --> 1:04:57.280 Yeah, no, you gotta love it. Man. 1:04:57.400 --> 1:04:58.760 To watch where he come from. 1:04:59.320 --> 1:05:02.000 In the trophy stipulations that bust and been through, he 1:05:02.040 --> 1:05:04.720 still got the same squad, still scratch it to a 1:05:04.800 --> 1:05:06.520 still split you know what I'm saying. 1:05:06.560 --> 1:05:10.480 They still mash it energy, not even more. 1:05:10.560 --> 1:05:14.080 One of the best performers and lyricists artists in this. 1:05:14.160 --> 1:05:16.840 Game, man like I love where he coming. 1:05:17.040 --> 1:05:21.120 It's it's it's inspirational to watch artists from from our 1:05:21.320 --> 1:05:24.480 from our era still flourishing. You know what I'm saying, 1:05:24.560 --> 1:05:27.040 Like I get, I get a lot of flak for 1:05:27.600 --> 1:05:31.440 for saying this, but I still believe it. 1:05:31.560 --> 1:05:33.400 You know what I'm saying Like I always said. 1:05:33.160 --> 1:05:36.080 It, and it's probably more relevant now today than it 1:05:36.160 --> 1:05:38.120 is when I was saying it. I've been saying this 1:05:38.200 --> 1:05:45.400 five ten years. There is no rapper bigger, more famous, 1:05:46.240 --> 1:05:49.480 got the best hip hop catalog, can wake up in 1:05:49.480 --> 1:05:52.720 the morning and do everything that he want to do, 1:05:53.360 --> 1:05:56.240 and go to bed at night and do everything he 1:05:56.280 --> 1:05:59.000 did that day and never changed who he was and is. 1:05:58.920 --> 1:06:02.160 As a person. And that's Snoop Doggie dog hands down. 1:06:02.240 --> 1:06:06.240 There is no rapper yo, bigger, more famous than got 1:06:06.240 --> 1:06:07.760 a better catabu than Snoop. 1:06:07.960 --> 1:06:09.880 Let me just say something, because I swear to God, 1:06:09.880 --> 1:06:21.040 I wanted to say this other than basketball volleyball. No, 1:06:21.080 --> 1:06:24.160 I don't think I've watched the handball, break dances, break 1:06:24.240 --> 1:06:24.800 fucked me up. 1:06:25.000 --> 1:06:27.520 No, no, no, don't just don't take the one chick for. 1:06:29.520 --> 1:06:35.360 Don't break dances, break break your legs back two of 1:06:35.400 --> 1:06:36.080 them from Florida. 1:06:36.120 --> 1:06:38.000 So let me just tell you something. 1:06:39.160 --> 1:06:41.479 I've never wanted to watch the Olympics in my life 1:06:41.600 --> 1:06:43.680 ever because of Sue Snoop. 1:06:44.440 --> 1:06:46.960 He was still being Snoop. He cripped walk with the 1:06:46.960 --> 1:06:49.720 motherfucker DRNK. That was hard. That was hard. 1:06:49.800 --> 1:06:52.520 I was like, I almost didn't I almost didn't want 1:06:52.600 --> 1:06:55.160 him to grip walk. But by the way, it was 1:06:55.160 --> 1:06:57.520 a white person crip walll yo. I don't know if 1:06:57.520 --> 1:06:59.919 you know what to say. He did it, but he 1:07:00.040 --> 1:07:05.960 represented hip hop so good, like he didn't have to burn, 1:07:06.480 --> 1:07:08.560 he didn't have to drink like you knew he was 1:07:08.640 --> 1:07:11.960 really his eyes were still on Snoop's eyes. 1:07:12.560 --> 1:07:13.880 But you know what I mean. 1:07:14.080 --> 1:07:20.000 He represented America, but in the circle of America that's us. 1:07:20.840 --> 1:07:24.560 He did such a great job, every incredible jocket. 1:07:26.000 --> 1:07:28.520 When he watched the hurdles and the people with hurdles 1:07:28.960 --> 1:07:30.960 and they just like like, I'm like, oh, I was 1:07:31.560 --> 1:07:31.840 yo o. 1:07:32.000 --> 1:07:36.800 Other rapper yes yea from five years old to eighty 1:07:36.880 --> 1:07:40.800 five years old. That person doosed everybody for that age 1:07:40.840 --> 1:07:43.440 and still in between knows exactly who he is. Yes, 1:07:43.760 --> 1:07:47.000 you don't see him and go yo, Man, dude, look 1:07:47.160 --> 1:07:49.960 like Snoop dog You see him and go yo, that's 1:07:50.040 --> 1:07:55.360 Snoop Dog Like from a from a murder Case to 1:07:55.520 --> 1:08:00.080 the Olympics to America's. 1:08:00.280 --> 1:08:02.640 Is that the name album? From a murder Case to 1:08:02.680 --> 1:08:06.040 the Olympics? Bro, that's all. I don't know of no 1:08:06.280 --> 1:08:09.840 rapper in the world that could do that. 1:08:10.520 --> 1:08:14.480 And in his catalog and people always say, oh skills, 1:08:14.560 --> 1:08:17.719 now you that that that that that no Limited album 1:08:17.840 --> 1:08:20.960 was trash skills. Snoop don't got the best catalog and 1:08:21.040 --> 1:08:24.240 hip hop. I'm like, bro, when I say catalog, I 1:08:24.400 --> 1:08:28.120 say songs that people know you for a song that 1:08:28.200 --> 1:08:30.960 you are on and you're performing in your show. 1:08:31.280 --> 1:08:32.880 That's a part of your catalog. 1:08:33.400 --> 1:08:37.920 Snoop got so many records that you forget that he's 1:08:38.000 --> 1:08:42.719 on that transcend him sid hip hop. I saw Snoop 1:08:42.760 --> 1:08:48.000 Dogg in Amsterdam. This might have been twenty ten, twenty eleven. 1:08:48.560 --> 1:08:50.880 He came out on stage. Willie Nelson had a show 1:08:50.960 --> 1:08:54.200 the next day. Snoop got a show this night. I 1:08:54.280 --> 1:08:57.639 come to watch Snoop Snoop come on stage at eleven o'clock. 1:08:58.200 --> 1:09:02.920 This motherfucker performed forty five minutes. The first forty five 1:09:02.960 --> 1:09:06.920 minutes was just guest appearances, and they was all hits. 1:09:07.800 --> 1:09:09.600 I'm talking P I M P. 1:09:10.800 --> 1:09:13.400 You forget he on that he was gonna fuck them 1:09:13.479 --> 1:09:15.120 up and niggas because he was doing that. 1:09:17.320 --> 1:09:18.120 By the time this. 1:09:18.040 --> 1:09:22.160 Mother wugan did forty five minutes of guest appearances. By 1:09:22.200 --> 1:09:26.240 the time Midnight hit the first Snoop Dogg song he did, 1:09:26.320 --> 1:09:28.680 he was like, dude, superfly, I said, matn Snooper, you 1:09:28.680 --> 1:09:29.639 ain't even did none of. 1:09:29.600 --> 1:09:33.400 Your shit, hummy, and all your years dud do juice. 1:09:33.439 --> 1:09:37.960 I was like, I didn't realize he had that many songs, 1:09:38.680 --> 1:09:43.280 like Snoop has so many And here's another clincher, all 1:09:43.320 --> 1:09:46.320 of the hits they all got his name in them. 1:09:46.880 --> 1:09:49.240 So you on stage, are you going You don't even 1:09:49.280 --> 1:09:58.679 realize that you're going Snoop or Snoop dom Snoop, Like, bro, 1:09:58.800 --> 1:10:02.000 he got so many records that you forget he owned Snoop. 1:10:02.080 --> 1:10:03.240 Let be like, oh, he'll. 1:10:03.040 --> 1:10:04.559 Had no hiss. He he had no recess. 1:10:04.560 --> 1:10:07.719 I'm like yo. His last hit was twenty eighteen. 1:10:07.800 --> 1:10:11.800 He was on fucking I'm living my best life. 1:10:11.960 --> 1:10:14.639 I ain't gonna how many records he own. 1:10:15.040 --> 1:10:15.760 I forgot that. 1:10:16.080 --> 1:10:21.439 Nobody got more nobody ll I love you whole second 1:10:21.600 --> 1:10:25.519 second close. But Snoop got the best hip hop kalog ever. 1:10:25.560 --> 1:10:28.519 Because you don't think that he's on these records. The 1:10:28.600 --> 1:10:31.040 last thing that you think about when you hit one, two, 1:10:31.320 --> 1:10:32.439 three into the folk. 1:10:32.360 --> 1:10:34.760 You don't even know, you don't even don't register you. 1:10:34.840 --> 1:10:36.000 That's not even his song. 1:10:36.360 --> 1:10:41.640 That's Doctor Dre's song. When Snoop come on saves and go, 1:10:43.200 --> 1:10:48.720 that's not even his song. He got so many, bro, 1:10:48.920 --> 1:10:51.400 he got too many records. Man, Like, that's the one 1:10:51.400 --> 1:10:53.160 person I ain't met yet that I want to meet 1:10:53.200 --> 1:10:57.520 because I'm like, never met Snoop in my life. 1:10:57.240 --> 1:11:00.360 Two times alumni and I take you Snoop, I tell 1:11:00.400 --> 1:11:02.479 I tell Fuzzy told me he hit me. 1:11:02.520 --> 1:11:03.360 I got the text to prove. 1:11:03.400 --> 1:11:04.519 He was like, Yo, I'm gonna come and see you 1:11:04.560 --> 1:11:06.200 at the Olympics. But I didn't know what the fuck 1:11:06.200 --> 1:11:07.400 he was talking about back then. 1:11:08.000 --> 1:11:08.559 We know now. 1:11:08.640 --> 1:11:10.720 I thought he was hot, and then I'm like, oh, 1:11:10.800 --> 1:11:13.040 this nigga is hosting the fucking Olympics. 1:11:13.080 --> 1:11:14.200 One of the. 1:11:13.840 --> 1:11:17.639 American listen and he never changes who he is. That's 1:11:17.680 --> 1:11:20.760 the best part. He doesn't compromise himself. Doesn't compromise. You 1:11:20.800 --> 1:11:23.679 know what you get when you book Snoop? Love that dude? 1:11:24.080 --> 1:11:29.880 Who's your favorite rapper? Rock him? I can see that. 1:11:30.280 --> 1:11:32.400 My whole DNA is rock Him and Kane. 1:11:32.840 --> 1:11:36.400 Your top five in no particular order, no particular order. 1:11:36.560 --> 1:11:37.600 Five is black. 1:11:37.360 --> 1:11:47.160 Thought, Okay, number ice Cube, you don't like Ice. Number 1:11:47.160 --> 1:11:50.120 three is whole, just not as much as you. Number 1:11:50.120 --> 1:11:54.320 two is Kane. Number one is rock Him. Because I'm 1:11:54.320 --> 1:11:56.280 the type of person I can't put people in front 1:11:56.280 --> 1:12:00.639 of the person that they influenced, hole in front of Cain. 1:12:01.240 --> 1:12:03.639 But you can't. But you didn't put Snoop in there. 1:12:04.080 --> 1:12:11.760 Nah, Snoop famous, I said famous in catalog, no disrespect. 1:12:11.800 --> 1:12:14.080 I've never I ain't heard Snoop say a line in 1:12:14.160 --> 1:12:15.639 a few years and I'll be like, oh. 1:12:15.479 --> 1:12:16.479 That's a hard ball. 1:12:17.160 --> 1:12:19.960 It's just it's just Snoopy doing what he do, you 1:12:20.000 --> 1:12:22.160 know what I mean? And when he when he stopped 1:12:22.160 --> 1:12:24.160 focusing on trying to be the best m C and 1:12:24.160 --> 1:12:27.960 started focusing on making songs that people remember and being memorable, 1:12:28.040 --> 1:12:30.920 Drake taught him that he went into a different space 1:12:31.000 --> 1:12:34.360 but rock Him and Kane are my whole d n A. 1:12:34.800 --> 1:12:37.320 You realize rock Him didn't curse, Yes. 1:12:37.760 --> 1:12:38.680 He did, he did one. 1:12:38.840 --> 1:12:44.360 Somebody said, Mahogan mahogany, right, yeah, someone said, y'all, y'all 1:12:44.439 --> 1:12:46.640 lie into the people is. 1:12:46.600 --> 1:12:48.400 Such a dope record. I don't remember that the r 1:12:48.680 --> 1:12:51.160 missed the show. That's the only time I ever heard. 1:12:51.120 --> 1:12:53.679 Him curse your manicure on point. 1:12:55.800 --> 1:13:01.800 That's never just shut like I feel like every it's 1:13:01.840 --> 1:13:02.439 like a haircut. 1:13:03.080 --> 1:13:05.120 He got two hands. I got to take my hands. 1:13:05.840 --> 1:13:10.479 Yeah, I mean he's been shot. QUI quick time? 1:13:11.840 --> 1:13:14.640 You got it? Well, listen, what's going on with these shots? 1:13:14.360 --> 1:13:15.160 Who's doing? 1:13:15.200 --> 1:13:16.400 What? Sonny? 1:13:16.439 --> 1:13:17.120 Gonna drink from me? 1:13:17.560 --> 1:13:19.640 You got a ring? All right, Sonny? Come in? You 1:13:19.640 --> 1:13:24.719 want to drive? You? Yeah? He driving? 1:13:24.920 --> 1:13:27.000 Okay, You're gonna have to take some shots. You can 1:13:27.040 --> 1:13:27.760 make a small shot. 1:13:28.080 --> 1:13:29.960 We can say water shot, not water shot. 1:13:30.040 --> 1:13:31.240 Say small shots. 1:13:32.479 --> 1:13:35.679 Unless you want Sonny to drink for you. Who's sunny 1:13:35.640 --> 1:13:36.040 can drink? 1:13:36.080 --> 1:13:37.800 Money means you right here drink? 1:13:37.840 --> 1:13:38.559 Come on, Sonny. 1:13:38.680 --> 1:13:41.280 I'm doing the first one of them too, But I 1:13:41.320 --> 1:13:43.240 have one shot with me at least. Of course I've 1:13:43.280 --> 1:13:45.519 been drinking. Of course, I don't know this was sober 1:13:45.560 --> 1:13:46.040 Champs today. 1:13:46.200 --> 1:13:46.639 Have a shot. 1:13:47.000 --> 1:13:54.160 But I guess you felt what you're looking to see 1:13:54.200 --> 1:13:56.760 what you missed? No, no, no, this quick time is live, 1:13:56.800 --> 1:14:00.200 this is this is all we played this last you 1:14:00.240 --> 1:14:00.839 know the rules. 1:14:01.320 --> 1:14:01.840 I don't think we. 1:14:03.360 --> 1:14:03.559 Didn't. 1:14:04.640 --> 1:14:07.160 I didn't get this and I didn't. 1:14:09.360 --> 1:14:11.920 So then you orders have some drinks here because you 1:14:12.000 --> 1:14:13.120 might not drink. It's up to you. 1:14:13.439 --> 1:14:15.559 Come on, Okay, So we're gonna give you two choices. 1:14:16.120 --> 1:14:19.240 If you pick one, you don't drink. Nobody drinks. If 1:14:19.280 --> 1:14:21.439 I pick one, nobody drinks. Nobody drinks. 1:14:22.120 --> 1:14:22.599 Okay. 1:14:22.920 --> 1:14:27.880 If you say both or neither the PC answer, we 1:14:27.920 --> 1:14:30.679 all drink. So if I say that, if I say 1:14:30.680 --> 1:14:32.320 the PC answer, we all got to drink. 1:14:32.439 --> 1:14:34.160 We all do that now we've. 1:14:33.920 --> 1:14:37.640 Been doing it, started this ship after I'll do like 1:14:37.840 --> 1:14:40.240 the flowers and this number when I was here and. 1:14:40.160 --> 1:14:43.000 I did give me, give me five rappers that have 1:14:43.080 --> 1:14:43.760 never been your. 1:14:43.680 --> 1:14:47.760 Top five, y'all niggas, they got me a quick time? 1:14:51.320 --> 1:14:53.439 You ready this one? Wait? 1:14:53.479 --> 1:14:53.800 One more? 1:14:53.800 --> 1:14:54.320 One more thing? 1:14:54.520 --> 1:14:57.400 Anybody that we mentioned this is all positive story, any 1:14:57.560 --> 1:14:58.880 story with them, just let's bring it up. 1:14:58.960 --> 1:15:01.840 Let's talk about it. I bet I see where y'all 1:15:01.880 --> 1:15:02.920 going with this. 1:15:03.240 --> 1:15:05.800 By the way, it's the Colombian and the Dominican over there. 1:15:06.560 --> 1:15:07.960 Let's give him some small I don't have to be 1:15:08.120 --> 1:15:09.400 crazy because it's a long game. 1:15:10.640 --> 1:15:12.439 Karras or m share. 1:15:16.080 --> 1:15:22.120 KRS any story with cars. I do remember a time 1:15:22.240 --> 1:15:27.120 when uh he had a song and everybody in my 1:15:27.160 --> 1:15:29.280 neighborhood I had, I think the non fact that was 1:15:29.439 --> 1:15:31.599 I was popping a little bit. Everybody was like, yo, 1:15:31.760 --> 1:15:34.400 KRS got a song. He this ship out and I 1:15:34.439 --> 1:15:35.760 was like, what are you talking about? They was like, 1:15:35.840 --> 1:15:39.040 no kr Res got song. It's crazy, And I'm like 1:15:39.120 --> 1:15:41.479 what what He's like, Nah, he dissed you. 1:15:41.479 --> 1:15:42.280 You gotta go at him. 1:15:42.280 --> 1:15:45.599 And I'm like, I'm not rapping against no krres one 1:15:45.640 --> 1:15:47.320 way I'm talking about So that I finally hear the 1:15:47.439 --> 1:15:50.640 song and I think it was MC's act like they 1:15:50.680 --> 1:15:54.599 don't know and he said he said, MCS can only 1:15:54.720 --> 1:15:56.719 better with punchline rhymes or something. 1:15:56.800 --> 1:15:58.320 He was like, that's the problem. 1:15:58.360 --> 1:16:02.120 You have no skills like and I was like, I 1:16:02.120 --> 1:16:06.280 don't see talking about me. And I remember, I remember 1:16:06.680 --> 1:16:08.880 there was this one thing that he said back in 1:16:08.880 --> 1:16:10.479 the day. He was like, Yo, if you're in the 1:16:10.479 --> 1:16:16.400 top ten or you I got already already got enough 1:16:16.439 --> 1:16:18.360 for you. So I was like, all right, I gotta 1:16:18.400 --> 1:16:21.160 write him around for Chris, and I wrote, I'm young, 1:16:21.200 --> 1:16:22.599 I'm like twenty two twenties. 1:16:22.640 --> 1:16:25.640 I wrote around and did Jersey. 1:16:26.000 --> 1:16:27.040 Do you remember this rhyn? 1:16:27.120 --> 1:16:27.879 No, I don't. 1:16:29.360 --> 1:16:31.280 In case I came, because you know, Chris don't give 1:16:31.320 --> 1:16:34.280 a fucks. Back in those days, I might have saw Chris. 1:16:34.320 --> 1:16:47.800 He'd been like I was absolutely talking about. But I 1:16:47.800 --> 1:16:50.720 would hope that Chris will will see me say that 1:16:50.800 --> 1:16:53.840 and say I taught him well because I had a ball. 1:16:54.000 --> 1:16:55.720 I had some balls to him too, like he had 1:16:55.840 --> 1:16:58.680 everybody else. We need to ask him if that bar 1:16:58.840 --> 1:16:59.639 was was about you? 1:17:00.080 --> 1:17:08.479 The okay? Big L or Big punt hm hmm rest Yeah. 1:17:09.000 --> 1:17:10.880 I used to get a lot of Big L comparisons 1:17:10.920 --> 1:17:13.240 when I first because. 1:17:13.000 --> 1:17:15.439 We both had that nasally. 1:17:16.720 --> 1:17:20.240 But but hearing Big L back in the stretching Barbido days, 1:17:21.479 --> 1:17:23.800 when I would hear Big L and I started, it 1:17:23.840 --> 1:17:24.160 was two. 1:17:24.400 --> 1:17:26.160 It was a couple of rappers. 1:17:25.800 --> 1:17:28.720 That I knew they we were similar and it was 1:17:28.800 --> 1:17:31.479 common and it was Big L. But Big L had 1:17:31.520 --> 1:17:33.400 a rhyme pattern that I was like, if I'm a 1:17:33.520 --> 1:17:36.280 round I can't do that. I can't do what he's 1:17:36.360 --> 1:17:39.200 doing because Big L would do y'all, I'm a wild 1:17:39.320 --> 1:17:41.760 child with the wild style. Your guns go boom boom, 1:17:41.840 --> 1:17:44.120 my guns go pile pole from haul them up to 1:17:44.280 --> 1:17:46.920 like he would always do double syllables and then and 1:17:46.960 --> 1:17:48.960 so I was like, I can't ever rap like that. 1:17:49.080 --> 1:17:53.920 I already got a voice that sounds like him. Boy. 1:17:54.000 --> 1:17:59.400 Yeah, the voice he was Common was heavier to the line. 1:18:00.160 --> 1:18:00.640 You know what I mean. 1:18:00.680 --> 1:18:03.680 So if something happened and you to put it in 1:18:03.720 --> 1:18:06.800 a ball, coming already got it in a record by 1:18:06.800 --> 1:18:08.640 the time you say it in the sight of like 1:18:08.680 --> 1:18:11.120 all you biting Common see, like damn this nigga. But 1:18:11.240 --> 1:18:14.160 he was on Relativity, so Common Records singles was coming 1:18:14.160 --> 1:18:15.840 out of Crazy. But they were saying this in his 1:18:15.880 --> 1:18:17.759 first album when he was doing that that that's certain 1:18:17.800 --> 1:18:20.280 that flow that he had changed afterwards. Yeah, yeah, And 1:18:20.720 --> 1:18:22.559 every time I heard Big L. He used to run 1:18:22.600 --> 1:18:25.760 that that that pattern back and forth. But pun was 1:18:25.920 --> 1:18:29.439 one of my favorites, the way he would put words together. 1:18:29.479 --> 1:18:35.240 So I would have to say big punt l l 1:18:35.479 --> 1:18:42.519 O cannabis h y'all for realigas questions? 1:18:42.640 --> 1:18:51.559 All right, I Love, I love L. I saw I 1:18:51.640 --> 1:18:55.519 saw L one time back in the day at this 1:18:55.600 --> 1:18:59.559 club in DC called Love Nightclub. Sounds like L belong 1:18:59.600 --> 1:19:02.439 there violated days, you know what I'm saying. L was 1:19:02.520 --> 1:19:06.160 killing him, you know, and he was. I saw him 1:19:06.160 --> 1:19:09.920 going up the steps and and you know, just after 1:19:09.960 --> 1:19:14.320 the this after the second run running. So I don't 1:19:14.320 --> 1:19:16.320 really want to run and I don't want to speak 1:19:16.360 --> 1:19:19.519 to none of my heroes because running all fucking dirty, 1:19:19.760 --> 1:19:22.000 which is a classic hip hop Oh I have I 1:19:22.000 --> 1:19:24.280 have an extension for that run that run story tell. 1:19:24.720 --> 1:19:27.639 So I see L coming up the steps and L says, 1:19:28.760 --> 1:19:29.640 I said, Yo, what's up? 1:19:29.640 --> 1:19:30.400 Man? My name Mask. 1:19:30.479 --> 1:19:34.599 He's like, I know you all beat? Yo, you dope, man, 1:19:34.640 --> 1:19:35.080 you dope. 1:19:35.280 --> 1:19:36.120 You still't put it up. 1:19:36.160 --> 1:19:37.360 You don't put it on enough records. 1:19:37.360 --> 1:19:40.880 Beat. And I was like, I'm all fucking rocks, Like 1:19:40.880 --> 1:19:42.720 what do you want me to do? Like you want 1:19:42.720 --> 1:19:45.519 me to make him put my shit? He was like, yo, yo, 1:19:45.560 --> 1:19:48.799 put some more records out. Beat. I was like, damn 1:19:49.600 --> 1:19:51.000 some records, you know what I mean. Like the fact 1:19:51.040 --> 1:19:52.040 that he knew it. 1:19:52.280 --> 1:19:54.920 Was like, so yeah, I'll have to say ll he 1:19:55.000 --> 1:19:56.480 did cannabis dirty. 1:19:56.520 --> 1:19:57.880 But one thing I want to. 1:19:57.840 --> 1:20:01.680 Say about Cannabis is that we can't we can't say that. Like, 1:20:02.160 --> 1:20:05.479 I think people forget how it was that moment that 1:20:05.520 --> 1:20:07.880 Cannabis had when he came out on the mixtapes, on 1:20:07.920 --> 1:20:12.439 the Clue mixtapes, Oh insane, like the bars that he had, 1:20:12.479 --> 1:20:14.840 Like everybody was going crazy over cannabis, and I think 1:20:15.280 --> 1:20:18.120 what happened between him and LL kind of people forgot 1:20:18.160 --> 1:20:18.519 about that. 1:20:18.560 --> 1:20:19.639 He just caught a bad one. 1:20:20.040 --> 1:20:21.360 Ll L. 1:20:21.800 --> 1:20:24.920 LL is probably and this is just from me viewing 1:20:25.000 --> 1:20:28.519 him from then till now. LL is probably the most 1:20:28.560 --> 1:20:34.240 competitive rapper in the fucking world. Like he he seems 1:20:34.280 --> 1:20:37.680 like one of those people. He likes to compete, you 1:20:37.680 --> 1:20:39.280 know what I mean. I'll never forget when I heard 1:20:39.360 --> 1:20:42.120 the who Shot Your Record? And I remember seeing the 1:20:42.240 --> 1:20:45.559 video and Keith Murray was in the beginning with it 1:20:45.600 --> 1:20:47.840 was all black and white, and then they had box 1:20:48.000 --> 1:20:51.120 in the video and then LL came out. LL was like, 1:20:51.200 --> 1:20:56.120 your female rappers can get it too. 1:20:55.120 --> 1:21:00.360 I was like, damn what Foxy dude, Like, Yo, that's just. 1:21:02.200 --> 1:21:03.400 Like damn LLL. 1:21:03.600 --> 1:21:06.600 He still seems very competitive, which I guess that's you know, 1:21:06.680 --> 1:21:09.040 that's that's what drives him, and that's dope, dope, he 1:21:09.120 --> 1:21:11.800 still has. Wish I could have had that career like 1:21:11.840 --> 1:21:14.320 that career is amazing. To do what he did and 1:21:14.360 --> 1:21:16.320 to see what he's still doing. Yeah, man, I saw 1:21:16.360 --> 1:21:19.120 the love of doing that ship with the roots and 1:21:19.439 --> 1:21:21.519 amazing show. And he was doing all this shit. He 1:21:21.600 --> 1:21:25.040 was doing our songs, all walking with a panther. Now 1:21:25.080 --> 1:21:28.880 he wearing bell bottoms. Let that man do what he 1:21:31.080 --> 1:21:35.400 let listen from Queens, y'all got y'all the best borrow 1:21:35.479 --> 1:21:36.160 for the rappers. 1:21:36.200 --> 1:21:38.920 Man, that's my hero, Okay. I mean we know that 1:21:39.120 --> 1:21:43.640 Kendrick or Drake Kendrick. We already did that. Cuba coming. 1:21:45.680 --> 1:21:47.280 Coming hm hmm. 1:21:47.800 --> 1:21:48.200 I can't. 1:21:48.240 --> 1:21:52.599 I can't tell him that story. Well, please tell us. 1:21:52.640 --> 1:21:55.120 It's just us, right, No, I'll tell you. I tell 1:21:55.120 --> 1:21:59.880 you because I never told this before. So I'm all raucous, right. 1:22:01.200 --> 1:22:03.200 And I did this record call so Far, So Good, 1:22:04.160 --> 1:22:10.320 and I'm in Philly. I'm in Philly and somebody called this. 1:22:10.320 --> 1:22:12.880 This is in two thousands. Somebody called a studio phone. 1:22:12.920 --> 1:22:16.639 They call it stupid phone studio. My manager goes, Yo, 1:22:18.280 --> 1:22:21.240 it's a dude on the phone, and they say they 1:22:21.240 --> 1:22:22.800 want to talk to you about clearing a song. 1:22:23.320 --> 1:22:25.559 I was like, who is it. He's a guy named 1:22:25.600 --> 1:22:27.960 Derek Dudley. He say, man, it's common I was like, 1:22:28.000 --> 1:22:32.320 common common sense. He's like yeah, like oh shit, I'll 1:22:32.320 --> 1:22:34.360 get on the phone. Comic gets me on the phone. 1:22:34.360 --> 1:22:36.680 I'm like, he's like, yo, what's up. I'm like, what's up? 1:22:36.720 --> 1:22:36.840 Man? 1:22:36.840 --> 1:22:38.880 He was like, Yo, so listen, I got this record man. 1:22:39.320 --> 1:22:41.080 And I think he was on Giffing or whatever he 1:22:41.160 --> 1:22:43.400 was on. He's like, and we shooting a video today. 1:22:43.640 --> 1:22:45.800 He was like, but if I don't get all these 1:22:45.800 --> 1:22:48.920 samples clear, they not They not going there's no budget, 1:22:48.920 --> 1:22:51.160 they're not going through with it. I was like, okay, 1:22:51.600 --> 1:22:54.599 why you need me. He's like, I Premo sampled your voice. 1:22:55.320 --> 1:22:56.880 And I was like, what record is that he likes. 1:22:56.880 --> 1:22:59.519 It's a record called the Game and I was like, 1:23:00.439 --> 1:23:02.360 huh he said the line to me. I was like, 1:23:02.360 --> 1:23:05.400 oh shit, that is me. He's like, yeah, Premot, scratch 1:23:05.479 --> 1:23:07.320 you into the hook, like, yo, where you at? 1:23:07.640 --> 1:23:08.879 You near a fax machine? 1:23:08.880 --> 1:23:08.960 Like? 1:23:09.000 --> 1:23:11.559 Can I get this clid like today? And I was 1:23:11.600 --> 1:23:13.559 like yeah. Like he was like, yo, if you ever 1:23:13.680 --> 1:23:14.840 need anything. 1:23:14.840 --> 1:23:15.320 Let me know. 1:23:15.720 --> 1:23:19.519 And I was like, actually, I'm all raucous. I'm you know, 1:23:19.600 --> 1:23:21.400 I'm still trying to get there, you know what I mean, 1:23:21.479 --> 1:23:23.559 Like I would love a verse And he was like 1:23:23.560 --> 1:23:25.439 all right, cool, yeah I got you. So I was like, 1:23:25.479 --> 1:23:27.720 all right, Bet said, we're gonna fact you over the paperwork. 1:23:28.120 --> 1:23:29.880 I said, all right, bet. My manager goes, who's my 1:23:29.920 --> 1:23:31.720 cousin at? He said, what do you say? I said, 1:23:31.720 --> 1:23:33.640 they want me to clear this record. My manager goes, 1:23:33.680 --> 1:23:37.559 WHOA get that ship in right, because I know how 1:23:37.600 --> 1:23:41.160 it is when it's your turn. Niggas disappeared. I was 1:23:41.200 --> 1:23:47.000 like what I said, maybe in the real billboard hip 1:23:47.040 --> 1:23:51.040 hop where it's raucous and common. Bro like we this 1:23:51.160 --> 1:23:55.479 ain't death Jam and Electra like your kids say right, 1:23:55.520 --> 1:23:56.479 we come from the same car. 1:23:56.520 --> 1:23:59.680 He like skills. Get that ship in. 1:23:59.680 --> 1:24:02.400 Right, said Bro. But he needs the video he needed 1:24:02.439 --> 1:24:06.920 clean today. He was like, I'm telling you, get to 1:24:07.000 --> 1:24:09.040 get the paperwork. I said, no, I'm not gonna. I 1:24:09.080 --> 1:24:11.599 called quest Love Yo is comic good? 1:24:11.760 --> 1:24:14.559 Is he good? Good? 1:24:15.439 --> 1:24:16.439 I called you know what I mean? 1:24:16.479 --> 1:24:18.840 I called black though. He's like, yeah, yeah, good Bro. 1:24:19.520 --> 1:24:21.639 I said, all right, man, they fashion over I signed 1:24:21.640 --> 1:24:27.960 and send it back my record time. I can't find 1:24:27.960 --> 1:24:33.720 this right and Rashid I love you. I never told 1:24:33.800 --> 1:24:38.519 him this. I can't find him. The labels like, yo, 1:24:38.600 --> 1:24:41.200 this is the first single, this is dope. I'm like, yo, 1:24:41.240 --> 1:24:43.160 I got a Common com and gonna do. 1:24:43.120 --> 1:24:46.200 A verse on his perfect They like, yeah, all right. 1:24:48.240 --> 1:24:51.800 I'm like, I remember I went to a lock show. 1:24:52.160 --> 1:24:55.320 Locks was NVA and I was telling styles and stop. 1:24:55.360 --> 1:24:59.800 I remember Style saying, yo, beloved, if sh it is 1:25:00.320 --> 1:25:03.320 up on you all the sun, the game is done. 1:25:05.120 --> 1:25:08.880 And I was like, I can't find this thing. And 1:25:08.960 --> 1:25:12.120 this Common was heavy on his acting ship right, So 1:25:12.479 --> 1:25:15.280 we get we get ready shoot, I hit Tyler Qui. 1:25:15.560 --> 1:25:18.320 I said, Yo, I need a verse. Tyl Lip does 1:25:18.320 --> 1:25:20.519 the verse. He on Rockers too. He's like, y'all got you, 1:25:21.160 --> 1:25:22.880 So we get me shoot the video. 1:25:23.320 --> 1:25:25.080 Common. Common kept going to. 1:25:25.120 --> 1:25:27.320 Different studios and they was trying to run you not 1:25:27.479 --> 1:25:29.800 used to run the budget up. So they're like, yeah, yeah, 1:25:29.800 --> 1:25:33.120 we need you know, we need chun king for eight hours. 1:25:33.160 --> 1:25:34.320 We need a full budget. 1:25:34.720 --> 1:25:37.639 Ain't no Rockers Like yeah, nah, we got twenty five 1:25:37.680 --> 1:25:40.840 hundred dollars. You got four hours in in Caught. 1:25:41.920 --> 1:25:42.800 It's not about to be. 1:25:43.720 --> 1:25:46.519 He finally cuts the verse and I'm like, damn, this 1:25:46.520 --> 1:25:49.639 ship is done. He killed DA six months later though, 1:25:49.800 --> 1:25:52.400 so my ship been delayed. I've been waiting on this verse. 1:25:53.160 --> 1:25:55.720 Chris Robinson's gonna shoot the video for me. Who's doing 1:25:55.800 --> 1:26:00.320 all his videos? But Chris Robinson's a little brother. Chris 1:26:00.400 --> 1:26:03.679 Robinson was like, skills, your video budget is so cheap. 1:26:03.800 --> 1:26:05.120 I can't put my name on. 1:26:06.680 --> 1:26:10.880 Rosin Rokys ain't spending no brand like that. I'm gonna 1:26:10.920 --> 1:26:12.920 do the video, but I'm gonna sign it off on 1:26:12.960 --> 1:26:13.599 my little my. 1:26:13.560 --> 1:26:14.960 Little robot Films. 1:26:15.040 --> 1:26:19.160 Yes, okay, right boom, Chris shoot, heren't shoot the video, 1:26:19.280 --> 1:26:22.519 probably send me the treatment. Crazy I hit. I'm trying 1:26:22.520 --> 1:26:24.680 to find coming. I just I just want you to 1:26:24.680 --> 1:26:29.240 be in a video. I can't find a nigga again. 1:26:30.720 --> 1:26:32.080 We we nine months late. 1:26:32.120 --> 1:26:33.559 But you never got to hold him, so it's not 1:26:33.600 --> 1:26:35.080 like you don't know if he's thisssing you. 1:26:35.400 --> 1:26:37.160 But then here it comes it. 1:26:37.240 --> 1:26:42.200 Ass, here's the ship I got over, But here's the ship. 1:26:43.280 --> 1:26:46.960 He's in Budapest or some shit, shooting a movie, right, 1:26:47.000 --> 1:26:48.800 I think it was that movie with Angelina Joe Lee 1:26:48.880 --> 1:26:50.800 or whatever where they were shoot. They used to remember 1:26:50.840 --> 1:26:52.639 him shooting. They was doing the guns and the bullet 1:26:53.960 --> 1:26:58.000 remember that. I get him on the phone. I said, yo, man, 1:26:58.120 --> 1:27:02.919 like this is my first and I'm really I'm really adamant. 1:27:03.000 --> 1:27:06.559 I'm like, bro, I watched your career. I watched how 1:27:06.600 --> 1:27:10.360 You Move like we come from the same cloth. Like 1:27:11.880 --> 1:27:16.679 it's my video. It's the first single, and and this 1:27:16.840 --> 1:27:22.320 nigga tells me. This nigga says, yeah, I'm not I'm 1:27:22.320 --> 1:27:26.800 not really trying to do no videos right now. I said, bro, 1:27:26.840 --> 1:27:29.920 But Chris Rabbinson is shooting it. He just shot nine of. 1:27:29.960 --> 1:27:32.439 Your Laste that's the remember the Text to five video. 1:27:32.439 --> 1:27:33.759 He shot all his videos. 1:27:33.800 --> 1:27:36.200 I'm like, yo, Chris Rapbinson is shooting and he just 1:27:36.280 --> 1:27:41.240 tells me no, like blatantly, like nah, I'm not trying 1:27:41.280 --> 1:27:45.640 to shoot no video with you, And I'm like, what 1:27:45.840 --> 1:27:50.240 the fuck is this? Months later, he do a movie 1:27:50.280 --> 1:27:53.760 in a movie come out with Queen La Teeth just right. 1:27:54.400 --> 1:27:55.879 Remember he was the leading man. 1:27:57.360 --> 1:27:59.000 See I Love You. But this is the story. I 1:27:59.040 --> 1:28:00.840 got this on dreams, not to keep it a bean, 1:28:03.040 --> 1:28:06.160 and they promoted the movie. But they doing it like 1:28:06.160 --> 1:28:10.439 like grassroots. They at theaters like yo, Queen Latifa is 1:28:10.479 --> 1:28:13.640 at low sixteen and communists. 1:28:13.640 --> 1:28:14.719 I was with Jazzy Jeff. 1:28:14.760 --> 1:28:18.080 We was at the Palms in Las Vegas and Rashi 1:28:18.280 --> 1:28:25.679 is downstairs Common. That's he's downstairs with the little table 1:28:25.760 --> 1:28:28.280 out front and people coming to see the movie. And 1:28:28.360 --> 1:28:31.000 Jeff like, Yo, let's go downstairs and check out Common 1:28:31.200 --> 1:28:32.040 and Latifa movie. 1:28:32.200 --> 1:28:33.560 I always see that ship. 1:28:35.920 --> 1:28:40.040 Jeff going on, don't know okay, petty game my full 1:28:41.200 --> 1:28:49.000 I go downstairs. Common is downstairs chilling, and I see 1:28:49.040 --> 1:28:54.120 him and I'm looking at him like you you low 1:28:54.200 --> 1:28:56.680 key kind of just jerked me, like you call me. 1:28:57.080 --> 1:28:59.800 You called me one day and you needed something right 1:28:59.840 --> 1:29:02.040 there and I got it off for you. And then 1:29:02.040 --> 1:29:02.800 when it's time for. 1:29:02.840 --> 1:29:03.920 Me, you ain't. 1:29:04.000 --> 1:29:06.599 You ain't return to favor like yo, you I never 1:29:06.640 --> 1:29:08.759 think you would be foul. Like That's how I'm thinking. 1:29:09.640 --> 1:29:13.639 I see him, Hey, peace, Peace, how's the brother man? 1:29:13.720 --> 1:29:14.040 Peace? 1:29:15.080 --> 1:29:15.679 Peace King? 1:29:17.640 --> 1:29:23.240 I'm like peace. I feel like Lawrence f Fast. I'm like, yo, 1:29:23.360 --> 1:29:27.760 piece is not gonna say this, ain't And I want 1:29:27.800 --> 1:29:29.160 to say it to him so bad. 1:29:29.160 --> 1:29:30.920 It's like, oh, how's the brother man? 1:29:31.200 --> 1:29:31.360 Ah? 1:29:31.479 --> 1:29:33.000 Love love, you know it's all that. 1:29:33.320 --> 1:29:37.679 And I'm sitting there going I'm really like I'm tight. 1:29:38.680 --> 1:29:39.240 I'm tight. 1:29:40.280 --> 1:29:43.519 The Jeff looking at me like, yo, what's up skills energy. Oh, 1:29:46.439 --> 1:29:49.240 we gonna watch the movie the whole I'm hating fuck 1:29:49.320 --> 1:29:49.840 this movie. 1:29:51.040 --> 1:29:52.040 We watched the movie. 1:29:52.640 --> 1:29:56.879 We watched the movie, We come back out, coming's still outside, Oh, Jesse. 1:29:56.800 --> 1:29:59.400 Jeff skills off piece piece, what y'all. 1:29:59.280 --> 1:30:02.240 Think of the movie? I'm like. 1:30:03.000 --> 1:30:05.360 Jeff was like, yo, it was dope. Man, told him, 1:30:05.400 --> 1:30:07.120 finally get to see you in the lead. Man, you 1:30:07.240 --> 1:30:09.280 don't He looked at me, and I don't. He probably 1:30:09.280 --> 1:30:11.120 don't even remember this. He was like, old skills man, 1:30:11.160 --> 1:30:12.840 what you think of a movie? I was like, yo, 1:30:12.920 --> 1:30:26.559 latif killed that ship. So I hold this grunge for years. 1:30:27.680 --> 1:30:28.600 He don't know this. 1:30:28.800 --> 1:30:31.160 He probably looking back like he probably gonna see this, 1:30:31.280 --> 1:30:34.800 like damn, I didn't do that video. And then like 1:30:34.920 --> 1:30:36.360 maybe like a couple of weeks ago, I was at 1:30:36.400 --> 1:30:38.519 the roof the Rooster did the Hollywood Ball and it 1:30:38.640 --> 1:30:39.400 was like the thing. 1:30:39.280 --> 1:30:41.679 They did in for the grads. It was Avery Jumble Brothers. 1:30:42.760 --> 1:30:46.200 And he came out and me and me and Rochie, 1:30:46.200 --> 1:30:48.120 me and com on stage doing E. P M. D 1:30:48.760 --> 1:30:51.120 versus going back and forth. So he probably don't you he't. 1:30:51.280 --> 1:30:53.280 I never told him this, but I was tight about 1:30:53.280 --> 1:30:54.120 that ship for years. 1:30:54.120 --> 1:30:56.519 But I had to let it go. But I was 1:30:56.680 --> 1:31:00.439 light go back to what what Style? So you again? 1:31:00.439 --> 1:31:03.160 Because I was just like I told Styles about the 1:31:03.160 --> 1:31:05.360 whole ship, you know, and it was, you know, it's 1:31:05.400 --> 1:31:06.519 the paperwork. 1:31:06.040 --> 1:31:06.519 You know what I'm saying. 1:31:06.560 --> 1:31:09.360 So Styles was like, yo, I'm not even smoking a 1:31:09.479 --> 1:31:12.800 blading like you're like, yo, skills and ship fucked up 1:31:12.800 --> 1:31:17.320 on y'all? You know this ship? 1:31:17.439 --> 1:31:24.080 What what do you mean by like the. 1:31:25.040 --> 1:31:26.559 Like, we don't be fucking with you? 1:31:28.000 --> 1:31:30.120 Hilarious like and. 1:31:30.240 --> 1:31:32.840 Every time I was seeing it was peace peace, How 1:31:32.960 --> 1:31:39.400 is the brother? And I'm like, I want to understand. 1:31:40.040 --> 1:31:41.640 Shut out the. 1:31:43.760 --> 1:31:45.320 You got a big holdo, holdo, holdo. 1:31:47.680 --> 1:31:50.840 So it was it was let me ask you this 1:31:50.840 --> 1:31:55.559 this before you keep going on. I can't believe is 1:31:55.600 --> 1:31:59.200 that word backpack, wrap up, derogatory? 1:32:00.400 --> 1:32:04.400 Hey man, I told you before. I think it's only 1:32:04.479 --> 1:32:06.320 two kinds of music. I think it's good music and 1:32:06.360 --> 1:32:09.120 bad music, you know what I'm saying. So they gonna 1:32:09.160 --> 1:32:14.880 categorize it regardless, and people gonna use things and they're gonna, 1:32:15.720 --> 1:32:18.720 you know, try to keep us in a box. But 1:32:19.520 --> 1:32:22.720 you know, right, I started, like bro, I started as 1:32:22.720 --> 1:32:23.200 a rapper. 1:32:23.320 --> 1:32:25.680 I've done. I'm a writer now I've done so. 1:32:25.720 --> 1:32:28.040 I did a movie since I've been going, like since 1:32:28.040 --> 1:32:30.760 I was here last like, and it was funny because 1:32:30.800 --> 1:32:35.840 y'all had rap Man on here right. I look at Supercell. 1:32:36.200 --> 1:32:39.439 I'm watching super Cell, just just watch it. Watched the 1:32:39.479 --> 1:32:41.639 first episode. I was like, damn, this shit is dope. 1:32:41.920 --> 1:32:44.680 I kept seeing created and written by rap Man. I 1:32:44.720 --> 1:32:46.400 was like, where the fuck do I know that name 1:32:46.640 --> 1:32:49.840 rap Man? So I know that name Rapman. Watched the 1:32:49.880 --> 1:32:52.519 whole series. I'm like, dag, I can't with season two. 1:32:52.560 --> 1:32:53.320 I come out tomorrow. 1:32:53.320 --> 1:32:55.960 This shit is crazy. Where the fuck do I know 1:32:56.040 --> 1:32:58.120 that name rap Man from? I went to his page. 1:32:58.160 --> 1:33:00.479 I looked at it. I was like, damn, whose son 1:33:00.600 --> 1:33:03.360 face sitting there? One day? 1:33:03.400 --> 1:33:04.360 I'm looking and. 1:33:04.320 --> 1:33:07.000 I'm like, oh shit, I remember him. He used to 1:33:07.080 --> 1:33:11.599 do wrap ups in the UK. He started in twenty 1:33:11.760 --> 1:33:14.479 twenty twelve. He did wrap ups uptil like twenty eighteen. 1:33:14.520 --> 1:33:17.920 I used to see him all the time. I DMM 1:33:17.920 --> 1:33:20.920 when I go yo. I watched the show. I loved it. 1:33:21.880 --> 1:33:23.800 I knew, I knew your face you used to do. 1:33:23.880 --> 1:33:25.479 Then you used to do wrap ups back and he 1:33:25.520 --> 1:33:31.400 was like skills, bro, oh my yo took your shit. 1:33:32.680 --> 1:33:34.600 I was like, I knew I knew you. 1:33:35.680 --> 1:33:37.559 And he was like, oh, bro, man, I took your 1:33:37.560 --> 1:33:37.960 whole shit. 1:33:38.880 --> 1:33:41.439 I used to do a rap bulls Day and I 1:33:41.520 --> 1:33:46.000 was like, yo, I'm so crazy. So then I told him, 1:33:46.040 --> 1:33:48.960 I said, bro, to go from writing wrap ups to 1:33:49.000 --> 1:33:51.479 writing movies. I look at people like you, I look 1:33:51.520 --> 1:33:53.679 at people like Cube, I look at Queen Latifa. 1:33:53.800 --> 1:33:55.759 Like you know what I'm saying. I've done a film 1:33:55.800 --> 1:33:56.160 since then. 1:33:56.200 --> 1:33:58.519 It's a documentary, but still I'm like, bro, to watch 1:33:58.600 --> 1:33:59.000 y'all do. 1:33:59.200 --> 1:34:01.240 That and and and. 1:34:01.000 --> 1:34:03.960 And rise up like that the skies, The sky's the 1:34:04.000 --> 1:34:06.000 limit for all of us. Man, you know what I'm saying, 1:34:06.040 --> 1:34:09.800 Like hip hop is global. Shout the rat man man. 1:34:09.800 --> 1:34:10.160 And if you. 1:34:12.200 --> 1:34:13.479 What the episode as. 1:34:13.360 --> 1:34:19.439 Well, Yeah, dmx X because you know I had I 1:34:19.479 --> 1:34:22.320 had to X story before we was here, when X passed, 1:34:22.800 --> 1:34:24.440 when me and X was at the KFC. 1:34:26.320 --> 1:34:30.479 Yeah, y'all remember when I. 1:34:30.479 --> 1:34:34.800 Was here last and uh we I went to the 1:34:34.840 --> 1:34:39.360 airport and DMX was at the airport and the flight 1:34:39.479 --> 1:34:42.920 to New York got delayed and my baby moms came 1:34:43.000 --> 1:34:46.320 back around and picked us both up and we went 1:34:46.360 --> 1:34:50.280 to get some chicken at KFC, and we walked into 1:34:50.320 --> 1:34:55.599 the KFC and the girls looking at us like, oh ship, 1:34:55.680 --> 1:34:58.120 I know these two niggas and she looking to X 1:34:58.280 --> 1:35:00.160 them say nothing. She's like, oh shit, I knew. And 1:35:00.160 --> 1:35:01.800 then DMX she's like, can I help y'all? 1:35:01.840 --> 1:35:02.240 Where you are? 1:35:02.360 --> 1:35:05.160 DMX is the information line. Let me get an a 1:35:05.320 --> 1:35:09.840 piece no skin. She's like, what, don't shit on my ship? 1:35:11.160 --> 1:35:13.559 And it's before boneless like any of that shit. 1:35:13.600 --> 1:35:14.439 This is ninety eight. 1:35:16.120 --> 1:35:21.400 So he I've never seen nobody ordered chicken with no skin. 1:35:21.520 --> 1:35:22.840 He got it, he ate it. 1:35:23.439 --> 1:35:26.840 We went back to the airport like five. We fly 1:35:27.000 --> 1:35:32.080 to JFK and it's it's a small plane, sixteen people 1:35:32.080 --> 1:35:34.479 in me and DMX in first class and he's telling 1:35:34.520 --> 1:35:37.960 me the whole premise of Belly because he about to 1:35:38.000 --> 1:35:38.680 go shoot it. 1:35:39.040 --> 1:35:40.400 And he's like, yeah, I got smoothie. 1:35:40.400 --> 1:35:42.240 What I'm saying he box for me and ship you know, 1:35:42.240 --> 1:35:44.920 I mean, nah, it's gonna be crazy. And I'm sitting 1:35:44.920 --> 1:35:48.400 there like, yo, this nigga is wilding like and it's 1:35:48.439 --> 1:35:52.320 me DMX and like twelve white business and everybody hears 1:35:52.320 --> 1:35:54.200 the story. It's a small store, you. 1:35:54.120 --> 1:35:57.320 Know what I mean? He come home. He go to Jamaica, shit, 1:35:57.439 --> 1:36:00.519 right did he come back? You know what I mean? 1:36:00.520 --> 1:36:03.439 But it's gonna be crazy like hype shot like a movie, 1:36:03.800 --> 1:36:06.320 and I'm saying, they're like, yo, can you bring it down? 1:36:07.439 --> 1:36:09.479 It feels a look you know you're not like yo, 1:36:09.680 --> 1:36:15.360 you gotta relax. But there was no telling X to relax. 1:36:16.040 --> 1:36:18.439 He was, he was how he was everywhere he went. 1:36:18.520 --> 1:36:21.320 Rest in peace to the dog Man. Messed that dude. 1:36:23.720 --> 1:36:24.080 As well. 1:36:24.160 --> 1:36:31.080 Yeah, used I used to drink wine and from not like. 1:36:33.280 --> 1:36:34.120 That sounds like. 1:36:36.160 --> 1:36:41.080 Trill quest of Brand Nubian. Mm hmm. 1:36:41.880 --> 1:36:44.479 Tribe, it's gonna have to be tribe, even though I 1:36:44.520 --> 1:36:47.839 love I love what Brand Nubia did in the beginning. 1:36:48.800 --> 1:36:52.439 Puba was one of my favorite rappers of all, but 1:36:52.600 --> 1:36:56.439 tribe tribe was it for me? Like when I saw 1:36:56.479 --> 1:36:59.320 trial called Quests, I saw myself. You know what I'm saying. 1:36:59.320 --> 1:37:02.280 They were the native tongues, that whole thing. They was 1:37:02.280 --> 1:37:06.360 the gateway too. You could still be yourself. I ain't 1:37:06.360 --> 1:37:08.200 got to be against the rapper. I ain't got to 1:37:08.200 --> 1:37:12.160 be from the hood, I ain't got to be try 1:37:12.200 --> 1:37:15.360 to be super sexy. I could just be that so 1:37:15.880 --> 1:37:17.280 trib man that first time. 1:37:17.520 --> 1:37:20.559 Oh you do what you fucked me up. I always 1:37:20.640 --> 1:37:23.840 kind of attributed that to my era, to phar real, 1:37:23.920 --> 1:37:25.280 but I'm forgetting for well. 1:37:25.360 --> 1:37:31.240 Got that from yeah, absolutely got it from Jungle Brothers. Yes, yeah, 1:37:31.240 --> 1:37:34.679 we gotta go further back. Yeah, try change my life. 1:37:34.880 --> 1:37:36.880 Like I literally, I literally have a T shirt that 1:37:36.920 --> 1:37:40.040 says that, and when I wear it, it's literally true. 1:37:40.120 --> 1:37:41.280 Like they really changed my life. 1:37:41.400 --> 1:37:43.960 I never told you like you know from Queen's I 1:37:44.000 --> 1:37:47.240 looked up to them so much and when I met wife, 1:37:48.200 --> 1:37:50.960 I tell the story because I took his line when 1:37:51.000 --> 1:37:52.960 me said, both know this and bo't know that? 1:37:53.280 --> 1:37:55.760 Do know Jack? And I was like, no, we know 1:37:55.840 --> 1:37:56.960 this and don't we know that? 1:37:57.240 --> 1:38:01.040 No? Gad wow, because no he buked that. Why you've 1:38:01.120 --> 1:38:03.280 seeing me like instead of me like like. 1:38:04.520 --> 1:38:05.760 He was like, I'm getting you back. 1:38:06.200 --> 1:38:10.680 I was like, what that sounds like he was? 1:38:10.960 --> 1:38:12.559 He was like, I don't know which line I'm gonna 1:38:12.600 --> 1:38:17.880 take on yourself. Just shoot you know he's something I'm 1:38:18.280 --> 1:38:20.439 gonna get you back. And I was like, hey, but. 1:38:20.560 --> 1:38:25.040 By the way, I'm like I'm trying to he was. 1:38:25.280 --> 1:38:28.519 He was competitive, like he said, he didn't care like 1:38:28.600 --> 1:38:30.320 he he looked at everything like a sport. 1:38:30.400 --> 1:38:31.639 He looked at everything like a game. 1:38:31.760 --> 1:38:34.679 Yeah, like like when I say a game, not playing around, 1:38:34.720 --> 1:38:36.720 I mean like like like like that. 1:38:36.920 --> 1:38:41.800 Okay, and I'm Nas or jay z mm hm, yeah, 1:38:41.840 --> 1:38:42.680 I can't pick one of that. 1:38:42.800 --> 1:38:44.600 So then he finally take a shot. I got a 1:38:44.640 --> 1:38:46.680 text from home in my phone. I did work with 1:38:46.840 --> 1:38:47.720 Nas last year. 1:38:47.800 --> 1:38:50.880 Yeah, and you gotta recod Nas on timbolin, right. He 1:38:50.960 --> 1:38:53.040 watched me, oh shot like. 1:38:53.000 --> 1:38:59.120 You got a drinking there. Yeah, it's not in here, Okay, Jamie, Okay, he. 1:38:59.040 --> 1:39:01.439 Says he'll take whatever whatever y'all he wants my mohuna 1:39:01.439 --> 1:39:04.360 here gilt small shall I'll tell I'll take it. 1:39:05.360 --> 1:39:05.559 Yeah. 1:39:05.640 --> 1:39:08.800 Nas watched me on that on that song, but I 1:39:09.240 --> 1:39:13.240 just damn he really put me in the fucking dirts. 1:39:13.320 --> 1:39:14.880 What really came this? 1:39:15.040 --> 1:39:16.240 I came back to the studio. 1:39:18.160 --> 1:39:20.760 Tim played that be and I'm thinking they gonna play 1:39:20.840 --> 1:39:23.880 my So imagine coming back into the studio and you 1:39:24.080 --> 1:39:27.559 think you don't even know nobody's been in the room. 1:39:28.360 --> 1:39:32.000 You just come record. I come back in the studio. 1:39:32.040 --> 1:39:35.160 I'm thinking Jimmy Douglas then mixed it this this the 1:39:35.240 --> 1:39:38.240 clean crystal clean version. B. 1:39:38.439 --> 1:39:40.960 Come on, I hear splashyt. 1:39:40.439 --> 1:39:42.920 Dudes of gas I use ice jingle off my chest 1:39:42.920 --> 1:39:46.160 because my cast improved. Nice knuckle game. Ship to way 1:39:46.200 --> 1:39:48.519 of bucking change. I want the doe, fuck the fame, 1:39:48.560 --> 1:39:51.280 already made history. Y'all can have that. That ain't ship 1:39:51.280 --> 1:39:55.519 to me. I was like, God Jesus, like it was 1:39:55.600 --> 1:39:59.599 the way Nas floated on that. I wanted to say, 1:39:59.640 --> 1:40:03.720 take me off, but I was like, I got a 1:40:03.720 --> 1:40:06.519 song with no only nigga from Virginia got a song. 1:40:06.360 --> 1:40:08.880 With naves at the time, so I had to take it. 1:40:08.920 --> 1:40:09.360 But let me. 1:40:09.960 --> 1:40:14.439 Yeah, now you take it again and we ain't see you. 1:40:14.720 --> 1:40:17.360 It didn't happen. Oh that's not that bad. I love 1:40:17.439 --> 1:40:18.840 this one. By the way. 1:40:18.840 --> 1:40:20.040 I just want you to know they make that in 1:40:20.120 --> 1:40:23.760 a tub and Kindle makes that with his feet. Just 1:40:23.760 --> 1:40:28.960 so you know I'm just playing. 1:40:32.320 --> 1:40:36.000 I just played as a joke. N W. A Republican man, 1:40:36.000 --> 1:40:37.439 I wanted that one. 1:40:38.200 --> 1:40:38.519 Hm hm. 1:40:40.640 --> 1:40:40.960 Damn. 1:40:41.800 --> 1:40:42.200 Chuck D. 1:40:44.680 --> 1:40:46.240 Remember I told your teaching to college. 1:40:47.040 --> 1:40:48.560 Chuck D was one of the people that wrote a 1:40:48.640 --> 1:40:53.160 letter to the dean tell them to hire me. I 1:40:53.200 --> 1:40:58.200 still got the letter framed. You asked him to do that, Yeah, 1:40:59.080 --> 1:41:02.559 and he did it, and crazy about the letter looked 1:41:02.560 --> 1:41:05.519 like graffiti hand wrote it. It looked like graffiti. It 1:41:05.600 --> 1:41:08.880 wasn't a type letter signed Chuck the public Enemy. He 1:41:08.920 --> 1:41:11.639 wrote it like graffiti to the crazy. 1:41:12.360 --> 1:41:15.120 But in w A. 1:41:16.080 --> 1:41:20.240 And I'm gonna say this, and I mean this because 1:41:20.920 --> 1:41:24.439 I don't think it's ever been a group that when 1:41:24.439 --> 1:41:30.160 they came in, they changed everything and the ship was 1:41:30.280 --> 1:41:34.760 never the same. Gangster rap came in and the ship 1:41:34.960 --> 1:41:38.960 never left since in w A. So I would have 1:41:39.040 --> 1:41:43.040 to say n w A is the most influential hip 1:41:43.040 --> 1:41:44.400 hop group of all time. 1:41:44.760 --> 1:41:48.439 So it's in w A. See me. I think they're 1:41:48.439 --> 1:41:50.520 both influential in the opposite. 1:41:50.120 --> 1:41:58.920 Ways of the coast. Like they're my two favorite groups forever. Yeah, 1:41:59.040 --> 1:42:01.719 I just know when when when niggas, When niggas realized 1:42:01.720 --> 1:42:03.479 that they could rap about their hood and talk some 1:42:03.560 --> 1:42:07.200 gangster shit, they never stopped, right, It never stopped. And 1:42:07.560 --> 1:42:11.280 the nw A hit the pond and that ripple and 1:42:11.280 --> 1:42:13.960 that motherfucker still going in twenty twenty five. And I 1:42:13.960 --> 1:42:18.240 think the next iteration of that change was Master p Yep. 1:42:18.880 --> 1:42:20.200 I think that changed a lot after you. 1:42:20.479 --> 1:42:24.320 It definitely did, definitely for good Okay, Cold Crush or 1:42:24.320 --> 1:42:25.080 the Fearest. 1:42:24.800 --> 1:42:30.400 Five I gotta go with. I gotta go with Cold 1:42:30.400 --> 1:42:35.960 Crush because Kaz was kaz was. Kas was a problem. 1:42:36.000 --> 1:42:36.200 Bro. 1:42:37.160 --> 1:42:39.160 Listen, I listened to them old tapes. Kas was a 1:42:39.200 --> 1:42:39.920 problem man. 1:42:40.360 --> 1:42:41.760 So it was mail shit. 1:42:42.160 --> 1:42:46.240 Yeah, listen, and you want to talk about you want 1:42:46.240 --> 1:42:47.920 to talk about changing the game. 1:42:49.479 --> 1:42:52.919 After the message the game changed? 1:42:53.080 --> 1:42:57.719 Yes, fat Nobody, nobody knew that they could rap about 1:42:57.840 --> 1:43:01.400 what was going on in the neighborhood for real until 1:43:01.439 --> 1:43:07.080 that happened. I sat down with Master G from the 1:43:07.120 --> 1:43:11.040 sugar Hill Get and I asked him, I say, Yo, 1:43:11.680 --> 1:43:17.639 when you rapped, everybody rapped the same way. They would say, 1:43:17.640 --> 1:43:20.880 a long ass sentence with a word that rhymed. 1:43:20.600 --> 1:43:21.080 At the end. 1:43:21.520 --> 1:43:24.160 I got some some some some someth to some some some 1:43:24.160 --> 1:43:26.320 something to talk. I had some some something and some 1:43:26.400 --> 1:43:30.240 some something watching it play basketball. That was how everybody rapped. 1:43:30.520 --> 1:43:32.920 And he was like, right, I said, who the fuck 1:43:33.160 --> 1:43:34.280 changed it? 1:43:34.360 --> 1:43:34.759 Because? 1:43:35.200 --> 1:43:38.400 Man, And he's but but here's the thing, because the 1:43:38.439 --> 1:43:40.479 first time I heard it was running them right. That's 1:43:40.479 --> 1:43:44.160 when I recognized. But melly mail came first. But I 1:43:44.160 --> 1:43:45.720 didn't realize, for. 1:43:45.800 --> 1:43:48.360 Lack of a better term, melly mail and was first 1:43:48.360 --> 1:43:50.960 because that I think it sounded like a pauset Mellie 1:43:51.000 --> 1:43:55.520 mil came first. 1:43:53.720 --> 1:43:59.520 Even though sugar Hill represent like Jack Kas, but everybody 1:43:59.680 --> 1:44:02.559 thought that they had to rap the exact same way. 1:44:02.680 --> 1:44:05.080 And then Mel and them came in and shortened it 1:44:05.720 --> 1:44:09.519 so that phrasing wasn't that long sentence with the word 1:44:09.600 --> 1:44:12.320 at the end no more a child is born, no 1:44:12.439 --> 1:44:15.080 state of mind lying to the waves of mankind. It 1:44:15.160 --> 1:44:19.200 was way more words rhyming in the change. Yeah, and 1:44:19.280 --> 1:44:22.280 once it changed, it never went the front back. 1:44:23.320 --> 1:44:25.080 W A did that? Nas? Did that? 1:44:25.240 --> 1:44:30.000 You had started changing that? Nobody rapped like that? Since 1:44:30.640 --> 1:44:32.439 you hear nigga rap like that, like, oh that's that 1:44:32.520 --> 1:44:35.400 old school floor. Then they got me eighty rapping like that. 1:44:35.560 --> 1:44:37.479 You know what I'm saying, Like it's not the same. 1:44:37.560 --> 1:44:41.760 But so I would have to say, Mel, you know 1:44:41.840 --> 1:44:43.559 what now furious for our co crest. 1:44:43.600 --> 1:44:47.720 I can't choose. Okay, I can't choose. I can't take 1:44:47.720 --> 1:44:50.320 you like to drink. So you got whatever? What? 1:44:51.360 --> 1:44:56.240 Okay, Biggie or tupac rest in pieces of both rest 1:44:56.240 --> 1:44:57.679 and piece both you better both? 1:44:57.760 --> 1:44:57.880 Right? 1:44:58.439 --> 1:45:01.120 I met Pocket and elevated Jack the Rapper. Did we 1:45:01.120 --> 1:45:03.639 talk about this last time? Oh? 1:45:03.680 --> 1:45:06.560 No, I met Big. 1:45:10.160 --> 1:45:12.679 Yeah. Stay with the elevator, because I've heard elevator stories 1:45:12.680 --> 1:45:14.840 with Tupac and they were always something crazy going on. 1:45:15.120 --> 1:45:17.320 He was in the elevator, jack the rap, he was 1:45:17.360 --> 1:45:19.599 coming downstairs. He had the call kann I vests on 1:45:19.680 --> 1:45:22.080 with the with the bandana. Was there a beef about 1:45:22.080 --> 1:45:24.280 the papa that was? That was the ship when Luke 1:45:24.320 --> 1:45:26.960 and them got the beefing with Death Row Pop going 1:45:27.000 --> 1:45:29.599 on Death Row Yet the Towers and Compton record. They 1:45:29.640 --> 1:45:33.640 threw that down in the in the in the in 1:45:33.680 --> 1:45:37.200 the Marriott, Mark Keith and I remember getting off the 1:45:37.200 --> 1:45:37.880 elevators crazy. 1:45:37.880 --> 1:45:38.960 I remember getting off the elevator and. 1:45:38.960 --> 1:45:47.240 I saw Russell Simmons and mc search right, and my 1:45:47.320 --> 1:45:49.320 man was like, damn, that was fucking that was Tupac. 1:45:50.160 --> 1:45:51.400 And I wasn't a Tupac fan. 1:45:51.439 --> 1:45:54.680 It's a digital underground. Yeah, so he's not involved in 1:45:54.720 --> 1:45:55.040 that beef. 1:45:55.560 --> 1:45:56.559 He wasn't involved in that. 1:45:57.800 --> 1:46:02.639 Biggie I was on the same label was Junior Mafia, Yeah, 1:46:02.680 --> 1:46:06.320 Big Beat, Atlantic Beat with Reef Shot my man Reef 1:46:07.040 --> 1:46:10.240 Daddy Reef, Yeah, me and Reefed in my whole first album. 1:46:10.479 --> 1:46:14.080 I remember going to I remember I stayed. I stayed 1:46:14.439 --> 1:46:18.280 two blocks up from Unique Studios, right, so you walk 1:46:18.320 --> 1:46:20.720 past Quad, you go down, Unique was dead. I was 1:46:20.760 --> 1:46:23.880 living there with Yeah, I was living there. I lived 1:46:23.880 --> 1:46:26.439 in a place in Big Beat moved me to New 1:46:26.520 --> 1:46:27.840 York so I could do the album because it won't 1:46:27.840 --> 1:46:31.360 those studios in Virginia like that, but because it was 1:46:31.400 --> 1:46:32.720 cheaper than for me to come to New York. 1:46:32.760 --> 1:46:33.320 I lived on. 1:46:34.680 --> 1:46:36.599 I lived somewhere in New York where you had no 1:46:36.640 --> 1:46:40.759 business living. I lived in like forty ninth six radio 1:46:40.840 --> 1:46:41.680 city apartments. 1:46:41.680 --> 1:46:42.320 I neet. 1:46:42.400 --> 1:46:44.200 I had a little maid that used to come marry 1:46:44.760 --> 1:46:46.280 every fucking every week. 1:46:46.680 --> 1:46:49.439 But I remember going into Quad. 1:46:49.680 --> 1:46:52.639 I wasn't what you said. 1:46:57.680 --> 1:46:58.880 Yeah, I was living New York. 1:46:58.920 --> 1:47:01.200 I used to get on the end of the you know, 1:47:01.240 --> 1:47:03.400 go down to rock and soul, get records or whatever. 1:47:03.680 --> 1:47:08.759 I remember going in the Quad when they gave Biggie 1:47:08.760 --> 1:47:12.320 the deal, Biggie and under Deal and me and the artifacts. 1:47:12.360 --> 1:47:15.479 It was like, yeah, it's about to be a rap 1:47:16.160 --> 1:47:20.880 yeah because yeah, yeah, don my soul. That was. That's 1:47:20.880 --> 1:47:23.080 the first record I was ever I love this remix 1:47:23.200 --> 1:47:25.800 is one of the to the studio big in there 1:47:27.120 --> 1:47:31.639 uh sees and I think it was Reef, I can't remember. 1:47:31.720 --> 1:47:36.240 Reef introduced me to him to him and un I 1:47:36.320 --> 1:47:41.320 can't remember. It was reef for somebody from the label Entertainment. Yeah, 1:47:41.439 --> 1:47:44.320 and I he said, yo, this this this mads kills 1:47:44.600 --> 1:47:47.080 and saying he knew on Big Beat. I said, what's 1:47:47.160 --> 1:47:49.080 up man? I was supposed to game pound and he 1:47:49.160 --> 1:47:52.080 was smart money. He said, damn dude. Them Tams is leaning, 1:47:53.400 --> 1:47:57.479 and he looked like I had on Tims but they 1:47:57.600 --> 1:47:58.200 wasn't fresh. 1:47:58.240 --> 1:48:08.599 Like but I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I don't 1:48:08.640 --> 1:48:09.160 even know. 1:48:09.200 --> 1:48:11.920 This, nigga, I can't do that with Tims. 1:48:12.360 --> 1:48:13.000 I don't know. 1:48:13.760 --> 1:48:15.639 No, no, no, you got what I'm saying. 1:48:15.680 --> 1:48:17.520 I really look like I work construction. 1:48:20.160 --> 1:48:23.920 I bring up like yeah, I mean. 1:48:24.360 --> 1:48:26.559 So he was like and he didn't even He looked 1:48:26.600 --> 1:48:29.800 once and he was like, damn dude, them Tims is 1:48:29.880 --> 1:48:38.760 lean and Seas falls out. I'm like, yo, and was like, oh, 1:48:38.840 --> 1:48:43.040 so so we do he gets he he has he 1:48:43.160 --> 1:48:46.040 has my beat. Clark can't plays in the beef for 1:48:46.160 --> 1:48:50.120 Move your Body and he wants to beat, but Clark 1:48:50.160 --> 1:48:54.599 has already told me who wants big Okay, So Clark 1:48:54.760 --> 1:48:57.400 is like, you can't have that. That's Mad skills be 1:48:58.000 --> 1:49:04.840 and he like, who he on your he's on Big Beat, 1:49:05.080 --> 1:49:08.800 he's Kim and the label. Man, he was like, and 1:49:08.880 --> 1:49:11.400 the other one that's that's for Jay. He's like, man, 1:49:11.439 --> 1:49:14.920 you get this nigga everything talking about Jay and then 1:49:15.000 --> 1:49:18.639 Jayson and Clark goes, well, Jay is my artist, your 1:49:18.760 --> 1:49:22.599 Puffy's artist. He was like, man, but this joint is Clark. 1:49:22.680 --> 1:49:26.439 Come on, man, this man, come on. He was like, nah, 1:49:26.640 --> 1:49:29.840 man A promised that the mask kills. So he like, 1:49:29.880 --> 1:49:34.320 all right, whatever, we do the song. And I just 1:49:34.960 --> 1:49:36.960 I'm like, remember, I don't know no hooks. I don't 1:49:36.960 --> 1:49:40.160 know who the hook is. So I just lay three verses. 1:49:40.560 --> 1:49:42.200 Clark like, yeah, we're gonna put a hook. 1:49:42.040 --> 1:49:47.479 In Heredy and I take everybody. 1:49:48.200 --> 1:49:52.880 I sampled Big and Havoc from an old Mob deep record, 1:49:54.800 --> 1:50:00.000 So Clark biggie, here's the record and has to clear 1:50:00.000 --> 1:50:03.000 period because it has moved it. 1:50:03.280 --> 1:50:06.160 Everybody move your body and. 1:50:06.000 --> 1:50:09.160 He like, yo, you owe me, Clock, you owe me? 1:50:09.200 --> 1:50:11.600 And Clock like yeah, I got you, I got you. 1:50:11.640 --> 1:50:13.519 And I think that was I think the next record 1:50:13.520 --> 1:50:15.879 he hooked him up on was Brooklyn's finest. 1:50:15.960 --> 1:50:20.040 But and I didn't find this out until twenty twenty. 1:50:20.640 --> 1:50:23.559 I'm just I'm talking to Clock on my podcast and 1:50:23.600 --> 1:50:25.479 he just goes, yeah, I can't tell you about that 1:50:25.520 --> 1:50:29.840 time big one and we I said, Yo, what. 1:50:30.200 --> 1:50:34.000 He could have had said, Yo, why you record? Yeah? 1:50:34.040 --> 1:50:36.360 He was like, yo, he said, because that was your record. 1:50:36.960 --> 1:50:39.920 I wasn't gonna give him your record. And I was like, 1:50:40.479 --> 1:50:42.840 but we didn't know what was gonna happen. And how Clock, 1:50:42.920 --> 1:50:44.719 I mean, how big was gonna turn to the greatest 1:50:44.720 --> 1:50:48.000 fire Clock was like, yo, you know me, I'm loyal 1:50:48.120 --> 1:50:50.760 like and I was just like that, that's dope, Clark, 1:50:51.439 --> 1:50:53.680 big up, that's my old g I gotta get it. 1:50:55.960 --> 1:50:57.240 Biggie almost had my ship. 1:50:58.120 --> 1:51:02.519 That's hilarious. All right. 1:51:05.040 --> 1:51:08.439 I'm gonna say they both are important to the culture. 1:51:09.280 --> 1:51:11.479 But anytime you say them two names, the first thing 1:51:11.520 --> 1:51:16.000 that popping into my head is the fucking battle. I 1:51:16.080 --> 1:51:19.519 never thought I would see today. And I love Killer, 1:51:20.280 --> 1:51:23.920 I love I love Jim, I love the lots. I 1:51:24.000 --> 1:51:28.440 never thought i'd see today with Jada without cam cam 1:51:28.720 --> 1:51:33.680 mm hmmm, because he was more entertaining, he was more funny, 1:51:33.960 --> 1:51:34.679 you know what I'm saying. 1:51:34.960 --> 1:51:35.479 And when I. 1:51:37.479 --> 1:51:38.880 So, when I looked at that. 1:51:38.880 --> 1:51:45.479 Battle, what I realized was that shot technician too, because 1:51:46.040 --> 1:51:49.920 that battle would not be the same. Yeah. Yeah, when 1:51:49.960 --> 1:51:54.360 I realized from that that the locks of brothers loyal, 1:51:54.640 --> 1:51:58.320 they friends, they brotherhood. They've done a million shows together, 1:51:58.880 --> 1:52:00.679 so for them to get together of her that night 1:52:01.360 --> 1:52:04.120 was light work because they've done that a million times. 1:52:04.800 --> 1:52:10.439 Dipset got together that night for that. They probably hadn't 1:52:10.439 --> 1:52:16.160 really spoke too tough before that, so I know, as 1:52:16.280 --> 1:52:20.200 outside of looking in, it was a it had to 1:52:20.240 --> 1:52:22.200 be a cold day and haul them the next day. 1:52:22.560 --> 1:52:25.040 You know, I'll tell you the truth. You know, I was, 1:52:25.200 --> 1:52:28.439 you know, they all my brothers. I love them both, 1:52:29.760 --> 1:52:33.479 but I was kind of kind of being nosy. And 1:52:33.520 --> 1:52:35.960 I remember the day before I just called them all 1:52:36.439 --> 1:52:39.400 and I remember, you know, Jim being one place, Cam 1:52:39.600 --> 1:52:42.759 being another place, and I don't think you els actually answered, 1:52:44.280 --> 1:52:47.639 but I remember me calling kiss and then hanging up 1:52:47.680 --> 1:52:49.519 and then calling Styles and they're like, yeah, you know 1:52:50.120 --> 1:52:54.560 right here, and I'm like, oh, like you know what 1:52:54.600 --> 1:52:56.400 I mean, Like they were together, like you know what 1:52:56.400 --> 1:52:56.840 I'm saying. 1:52:56.920 --> 1:52:59.639 So and they were. 1:52:59.680 --> 1:53:02.519 They were they were like planning, it was rehearsing. So 1:53:03.080 --> 1:53:04.360 I think that that was the difference. 1:53:04.360 --> 1:53:04.800 I don't think. 1:53:04.840 --> 1:53:07.439 I don't think. Let me let me go on the limit. 1:53:07.560 --> 1:53:10.160 Say, I don't think the Locks is overall better group 1:53:10.240 --> 1:53:11.120 than this said at all. 1:53:11.160 --> 1:53:12.559 I don't think. I don't think either all. 1:53:12.760 --> 1:53:14.840 I think that night it was about who who had 1:53:14.840 --> 1:53:16.919 the better performance, who had the better. 1:53:16.720 --> 1:53:21.080 Focus, and that was them. I loved it as a 1:53:21.120 --> 1:53:23.720 fan of hip hop. It was such a beautiful night. 1:53:23.960 --> 1:53:28.000 It was and you know, to see that, to see 1:53:28.000 --> 1:53:30.880 them popping ship and getting hippy with each other, you 1:53:30.880 --> 1:53:35.479 know what I'm saying, not violating, you know what I mean. Yeah, yeah, 1:53:35.479 --> 1:53:37.360 you can tell they had talked before they like just 1:53:37.360 --> 1:53:41.520 don't say nothing crazy about like you don't say this nigga. 1:53:41.680 --> 1:53:43.599 But I knew. 1:53:43.640 --> 1:53:47.320 I knew from the beginning when when when Cam came 1:53:47.360 --> 1:53:52.040 out and said, Yo, y'all niggas gotta go first, y'all 1:53:52.040 --> 1:53:56.040 not home. You're not home, nigga, we at home. Y'all 1:53:56.080 --> 1:53:59.639 not home, and like reminding niggas like, Yo, these niggas 1:53:59.640 --> 1:54:03.040 is from because bro, they're not from the city, like nigga, 1:54:03.120 --> 1:54:06.320 we at home. And then Jaden looked at that nigga 1:54:06.360 --> 1:54:08.840 and said, Yo, hey, Kim, you. 1:54:08.840 --> 1:54:19.080 Live in Miami. I knew then, but man, it was 1:54:19.160 --> 1:54:21.960 crazy in the show when he said that was a. 1:54:22.240 --> 1:54:26.120 Beautiful battle man and hip hop won that night, So 1:54:26.200 --> 1:54:28.000 I would have to say the locks. 1:54:28.080 --> 1:54:31.280 Okay, rough riders a Rockefeller mm. 1:54:31.160 --> 1:54:40.080 Hmm, damn Yo, I'm gonna say, hey day, I have 1:54:40.160 --> 1:54:43.600 to say Rockefeller because I was such a fan of 1:54:44.720 --> 1:54:47.720 them together, Dame Biggs and Jay and what they created. 1:54:47.720 --> 1:54:52.360 It let them showing us black millionaires and businessmen, even. 1:54:52.200 --> 1:54:54.280 Though it didn't end up the way. 1:54:54.520 --> 1:54:57.760 Every time I hear it's a record by Rel called 1:54:57.800 --> 1:55:02.440 Love Love for Free, And every time Jay come on 1:55:02.520 --> 1:55:04.760 that record and the chords come on, you hear jay 1:55:04.840 --> 1:55:08.600 Z go, this is Rockefeller for live, This is Rockefeller 1:55:08.640 --> 1:55:12.240 for live. I still think about, damn what what that 1:55:12.240 --> 1:55:13.520 could have been? 1:55:13.040 --> 1:55:16.280 It would have been for life. You know what I'm saying. 1:55:16.560 --> 1:55:22.200 I'm gonna leave that subject alone. I knew you was 1:55:22.200 --> 1:55:28.959 gonna stay away. Yeah, it's like whoa. 1:55:31.240 --> 1:55:34.000 Or stay away from that one. 1:55:34.480 --> 1:55:35.640 Clue or flex. 1:55:42.280 --> 1:55:48.240 Clue is a Flex is a. 1:55:46.960 --> 1:55:48.680 Better party d J? 1:55:48.880 --> 1:55:51.280 I would say, then clue for me, I've been to 1:55:51.280 --> 1:55:51.960 a clue party. 1:55:52.000 --> 1:55:52.480 It was cool. 1:55:52.480 --> 1:55:54.440 I've been in flex wite flex trying to mash it. 1:55:54.520 --> 1:55:57.760 Definitely different kinds of different kinds of DJ. As far 1:55:57.800 --> 1:56:03.240 as influential, they both Flex is super influential in New 1:56:03.320 --> 1:56:06.520 York City and across the world. Clue, the mixtapes that 1:56:06.520 --> 1:56:06.880 that was. 1:56:06.800 --> 1:56:10.280 Our lifeline for years, showed me the money part one 1:56:10.400 --> 1:56:13.520 and Columa not all that ship. They both controlled, one 1:56:13.560 --> 1:56:14.000 controlled this. 1:56:14.160 --> 1:56:17.320 Ye, yes, they both had different different they was getting 1:56:17.320 --> 1:56:19.560 money in different ways, but it was all under music 1:56:20.720 --> 1:56:24.000 and I it's still versions on Clue songs, Clue tapes 1:56:24.040 --> 1:56:28.800 that I still haven't heard to this day. I'm gonna 1:56:28.800 --> 1:56:30.880 say Clue. I'm gonna say Clue. 1:56:31.000 --> 1:56:34.080 I think Clue is the greatest mixtape DJ of all time. Yeah, 1:56:34.280 --> 1:56:37.600 and I think Funk Flex is the greatest radio D 1:56:37.960 --> 1:56:38.440 all time. 1:56:38.600 --> 1:56:40.200 Flex made me miss flights before. 1:56:40.480 --> 1:56:43.280 Yeah, Like when Flex they pull over, I pull over, 1:56:44.880 --> 1:56:46.120 you pull over New York. 1:56:45.960 --> 1:56:47.120 City, I'll be like word. 1:56:48.280 --> 1:56:50.480 Like, I don't even understand that this is an act 1:56:50.600 --> 1:56:51.640 or if it's an act or not. 1:56:51.720 --> 1:56:53.520 I just do you really want that? 1:56:54.840 --> 1:56:57.760 I only got I think I only got one Flex 1:56:57.800 --> 1:56:59.280 bomb in my life. 1:57:00.560 --> 1:57:04.560 And now I did, uh literally one no. No, he 1:57:04.680 --> 1:57:05.360 hit a couple. 1:57:06.960 --> 1:57:10.160 I read, I redid the slick Rick record, Lick the balls, 1:57:10.840 --> 1:57:14.560 licked the ball. He loved it and and and dropped 1:57:14.560 --> 1:57:16.720 it and put the bombs on it and I just 1:57:16.760 --> 1:57:20.160 remember having that feeling like damn, like we we we 1:57:20.280 --> 1:57:22.600 in the city and fucking fledged dropping bombs. 1:57:23.120 --> 1:57:24.600 I knew what it felt like, you know what I'm 1:57:24.600 --> 1:57:27.600 saying only once though. 1:57:27.920 --> 1:57:34.360 But yeah, Kanye or just Blaze obviously producer wise. 1:57:36.960 --> 1:57:38.120 Hm hmm, it could be anything. 1:57:38.160 --> 1:57:41.280 Remember I would say, I would say just Blaze because 1:57:41.320 --> 1:57:42.360 he's a nicer. 1:57:42.040 --> 1:57:44.120 Person that's. 1:57:45.640 --> 1:57:46.560 Got a story. 1:57:48.120 --> 1:57:49.000 Kanye's story. 1:57:49.920 --> 1:57:59.360 Yeah, yeah, this is pig polo Kanye. Yeah, okay, he 1:57:59.440 --> 1:58:01.920 lived a whole woke in New Jersey. 1:58:02.040 --> 1:58:02.839 I'm on Racers. 1:58:02.840 --> 1:58:05.640 There was a dude name Howie McDuffie, Okumber, how we 1:58:05.680 --> 1:58:09.120 make w fat Boy used to talk all slow, yo, kid, 1:58:09.440 --> 1:58:11.440 I could take you up the hind ninety seven yo. 1:58:12.440 --> 1:58:14.720 I'm like, You're like, I'm gonna take you over to 1:58:14.760 --> 1:58:17.440 this dude named Kanye you do beats for? He like 1:58:17.440 --> 1:58:19.320 he about to be the new high tech. I remember 1:58:19.400 --> 1:58:22.280 him saying that we go over to his crib and 1:58:22.320 --> 1:58:26.600 he got the the It was a rolling vs. Sixteen eighty, 1:58:26.600 --> 1:58:31.280 remember though. So he playing me these beats and I'm 1:58:31.320 --> 1:58:32.840 listening to the beast because I got a deal. My 1:58:32.880 --> 1:58:35.240 album's coming out on Racers. I got a budget, so 1:58:35.400 --> 1:58:37.640 Kanye trying to get on. He played me a few beats. 1:58:37.800 --> 1:58:41.640 He burned him to a CD. And I'm leaving and 1:58:41.640 --> 1:58:43.839 I'm about to get the train and go back to Virginia. 1:58:44.600 --> 1:58:49.320 And he writes down his number and his name or whatever, 1:58:50.320 --> 1:58:53.240 and he's handed me the CD for the beasts. I 1:58:53.240 --> 1:58:55.240 took him right in like twelve. So he's handing me 1:58:55.280 --> 1:58:57.160 to CD. I put my hand up and he did 1:58:57.280 --> 1:59:01.360 like this. He was like, hey, can I just explain 1:59:01.520 --> 1:59:05.240 one thing to you before you take these beats? I 1:59:05.280 --> 1:59:08.880 was like yeah. He was like, if you don't like 1:59:08.960 --> 1:59:13.720 the beats, you don't want to use them, don't put 1:59:13.760 --> 1:59:17.839 my ship on no mixtape, don't leave my beats. 1:59:18.080 --> 1:59:21.080 That's how e B. I was like this. 1:59:22.440 --> 1:59:25.120 He's like, yo, that's how you ain't the You ain't 1:59:25.160 --> 1:59:27.720 the only person that got these beats all over the place. 1:59:27.760 --> 1:59:29.280 So if you don't want to, if you don't want 1:59:29.280 --> 1:59:31.600 to use them, cool, Just I don't want to look 1:59:31.680 --> 1:59:34.480 up and you want a new WOOTI woo. And I 1:59:34.520 --> 1:59:36.440 was like all right, cool. I was like, all right, 1:59:36.480 --> 1:59:38.000 I got you, bro, Like no doubt, you know. I 1:59:38.360 --> 1:59:40.640 respect he was. So he hands me to see He's 1:59:40.680 --> 1:59:45.480 like no, but I'm serious. And I was like, all right, man, 1:59:46.480 --> 1:59:49.160 I heard you. I'm not young, I'm not a four 1:59:49.240 --> 1:59:52.040 year old. You don't got to explain something twice. So 1:59:52.960 --> 1:59:56.120 we at the door, backpacks on about the walk out, like. 1:59:59.600 --> 2:00:02.960 Utiful. It's the third time. 2:00:03.080 --> 2:00:05.600 The third time, so I'm like, all right, man, And 2:00:05.640 --> 2:00:08.320 it's in a little clear case or whatever. So he 2:00:08.440 --> 2:00:13.080 hands it back over and he was like, he said, yo, 2:00:13.280 --> 2:00:16.080 I'm for real man. He pulls it back again. Howie 2:00:16.160 --> 2:00:20.280 McDuffie goes this, he pulls it back. I said, yo, 2:00:20.320 --> 2:00:21.760 I heard you. But to the point I'm like, YOA, 2:00:21.800 --> 2:00:23.800 I really don't, don't. I don't want to shit, you 2:00:23.840 --> 2:00:28.320 know what I'm saying, Like the fuck like so between Yeah, 2:00:28.480 --> 2:00:31.440 he was that's my Kanye story. 2:00:31.480 --> 2:00:31.800 He was. 2:00:31.880 --> 2:00:34.800 He was crazy back then. He was a little weird 2:00:34.840 --> 2:00:37.360 though back then. So did you ever get to use 2:00:37.400 --> 2:00:37.960 the beat? No? 2:00:38.200 --> 2:00:38.800 No, I didn't. 2:00:38.880 --> 2:00:41.480 I was gonna take I had one and I did 2:00:41.680 --> 2:00:44.880 like one, and I remember me and Howie used to 2:00:44.880 --> 2:00:47.280 play it a lot, and I was gonna go to 2:00:47.800 --> 2:00:50.280 I was me doing this. 2:00:50.600 --> 2:00:51.440 He told me not to do. 2:00:51.520 --> 2:00:53.440 I was gonna said he was going to go to 2:00:53.480 --> 2:00:55.480 high ninety seven and I was gonna wrap over it 2:00:56.120 --> 2:00:59.840 on Case Slate Ship, but I wrapped over something else 2:01:00.960 --> 2:01:03.960 because Casey was probably rest in Peace. Case Slave Case 2:01:04.160 --> 2:01:08.000 was probably the first DJ in New York to just 2:01:08.120 --> 2:01:13.600 totally fucking disrespected me, like. 2:01:12.240 --> 2:01:15.360 Like shipped it on me. And I was just like, wow, 2:01:16.000 --> 2:01:17.000 what you mean? I was? 2:01:17.680 --> 2:01:20.960 I remember it was now. I ain't say this last 2:01:21.000 --> 2:01:22.160 time it was. 2:01:22.240 --> 2:01:25.520 It was a video shoot for Styles had a song 2:01:26.160 --> 2:01:27.880 on Rackers with Pharaohmont Yeah. 2:01:28.320 --> 2:01:29.360 Yeah, what was it? 2:01:29.400 --> 2:01:32.160 Called my Life? My Life? We was all in the 2:01:32.240 --> 2:01:36.560 video m O P Fox Rest in Peace five record. 2:01:36.560 --> 2:01:37.360 She was in the video. 2:01:37.840 --> 2:01:39.400 Were all at the video shoot. 2:01:39.960 --> 2:01:40.760 I go to the VIDEOSO. 2:01:40.760 --> 2:01:44.440 I go get a pizza, the uh taking steal in 2:01:44.480 --> 2:01:47.040 there everybody in the video. I go gets and piecea 2:01:47.040 --> 2:01:49.360 I'm walking back across the street and I want to 2:01:49.360 --> 2:01:50.120 say it's graph. 2:01:50.880 --> 2:01:52.320 I want to say Graph was out there. 2:01:52.320 --> 2:01:54.800 It might have been Papoos and it's Case Slay and 2:01:54.800 --> 2:01:57.600 this the drama was the hottest in the world. So 2:01:57.760 --> 2:02:00.400 I just me being me, I say, yo, man, like 2:02:00.440 --> 2:02:01.840 I can I said, yo slack? 2:02:02.000 --> 2:02:03.160 He like what up? 2:02:03.240 --> 2:02:03.680 I said, Yo? 2:02:03.680 --> 2:02:05.920 How can I get on the drama hour? And he 2:02:06.560 --> 2:02:08.720 ain't even look at me. This nigga said you gotta 2:02:08.760 --> 2:02:13.800 be nice, and he looked over there. I'm like, my man, 2:02:13.880 --> 2:02:17.000 my man, look at me like I'm from Vijay. We 2:02:17.160 --> 2:02:20.800 used to niggas disrespecting us, but you're not gonna do 2:02:20.840 --> 2:02:23.800 it for too long. So I'm like, I said, you're 2:02:23.800 --> 2:02:26.600 saying I ain't nice. He's like, now, I'm just saying, 2:02:26.640 --> 2:02:29.480 get on the drama, you gotta be nice. Still ain't 2:02:29.480 --> 2:02:32.760 looking at me. I go to Rucus the next day. 2:02:32.800 --> 2:02:35.280 I say, hey, nigga, I don't give a fuck. How 2:02:35.360 --> 2:02:37.680 y'all pull it off. I gotta get on the drama, 2:02:37.680 --> 2:02:41.280 our hot nice seven. I don't tell me when and when. 2:02:41.400 --> 2:02:43.440 I don't even funck how you do it? So how 2:02:43.440 --> 2:02:47.840 we McDuff he finest, finest slay Like Yo, I'm gonna 2:02:47.840 --> 2:02:49.720 come up there with the roucous all. I'm gonna bring 2:02:50.040 --> 2:02:52.920 fha roah, I'm gonna bring modest. I'ma bring quality. Had 2:02:52.920 --> 2:02:55.440 a new rapper the d Oe or whatever, and I'm 2:02:55.440 --> 2:02:57.760 gonna bring mass skills. They're all gonna freestyle on your 2:02:57.760 --> 2:03:00.360 shoulder slay like, all right, bring them up because it's 2:03:00.400 --> 2:03:03.000 just guest on the show. And I think this pharaoh, 2:03:03.200 --> 2:03:06.920 I think Parrol had a ba bather. Simon says, get 2:03:06.920 --> 2:03:10.480 the fuck right. I come up that bitch with a vengeance. 2:03:10.560 --> 2:03:13.520 I'm pissed. I don't even I think Most showed up 2:03:14.480 --> 2:03:18.560 Pharaoh didn't. They still let us come, So I go 2:03:18.640 --> 2:03:21.200 up there. This was this fifty cent had just dropped 2:03:21.200 --> 2:03:26.400 in the club. His going around. Most did his verse 2:03:26.480 --> 2:03:29.520 for Beef, the same he spit on the Sapel Show. 2:03:30.560 --> 2:03:31.040 Come to me. 2:03:32.240 --> 2:03:34.400 I said, Yo, throw the throw that throw that fifty 2:03:34.440 --> 2:03:37.720 shit on and they threw the fifty beat on and 2:03:37.760 --> 2:03:39.960 I blacked the funk out. 2:03:39.960 --> 2:03:43.200 Like spas and he goes. 2:03:43.760 --> 2:03:45.080 I get to the end of the I think I 2:03:45.120 --> 2:03:48.160 did sick like I was sick before Big Daddy Kane 2:03:48.240 --> 2:03:49.960 was doing this. I was sick when biz Mark he 2:03:50.120 --> 2:03:51.680 was a cute baby like I was doing all these 2:03:51.960 --> 2:03:55.680 I was sick when Bobby Brown was fucking dancing for shiit. 2:03:55.840 --> 2:03:57.640 I was doing all this shit. And he gets to 2:03:57.680 --> 2:03:59.360 the end of the free side and then he I 2:03:59.360 --> 2:04:01.440 guess the board op or whatever. I think his name 2:04:01.480 --> 2:04:04.600 was Malaki, and I heard he said a A A Malaka. 2:04:05.200 --> 2:04:07.240 He was like, yo, that that might be the hottest 2:04:07.240 --> 2:04:10.360 freestyle nigga ever. Split up here be like, yo, that 2:04:10.440 --> 2:04:12.680 shit was crazy, and I just looked at the nig 2:04:12.800 --> 2:04:18.960 and I was I just walked out, like I want 2:04:18.960 --> 2:04:21.720 to say. It's still on YouTube somewhere like look up 2:04:21.800 --> 2:04:27.000 Mad Skilled Skills, Case Slade Drama. I blacked out, like 2:04:27.040 --> 2:04:29.360 I lost it. But it was a good moment. But yeah, 2:04:29.400 --> 2:04:32.080 Case Slade lit a whole fire in me. So appreciate that. 2:04:32.200 --> 2:04:39.680 Rest and peace. 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You didn't get the diverse. 2:05:22.960 --> 2:05:26.480 I ain't get diverse in common either, but Primo sampled 2:05:26.480 --> 2:05:29.320 me a couple of times on the game and he 2:05:29.400 --> 2:05:32.240 sampled me on a j Rue song. So I'm gonna 2:05:32.240 --> 2:05:34.960 go with promo. I still want to wrap over promo 2:05:35.040 --> 2:05:37.840 be that's like my you haven't I have? I never 2:05:37.840 --> 2:05:39.120 wrapped over promo be what. 2:05:39.480 --> 2:05:43.240 You got one MI one one m C and one 2:05:43.600 --> 2:05:44.200 rock Damn? 2:05:44.240 --> 2:05:47.320 I got song with Pete Rock Damn and that com 2:05:47.400 --> 2:05:52.480 Pete Rock album is though inspired fire Let the album 2:05:53.600 --> 2:05:57.200 tim Berlander Pharrell, We're not doing that, Yeah we are. 2:05:59.600 --> 2:06:01.000 Come on, I'm not doing that. 2:06:01.080 --> 2:06:04.000 You know drinking that I don't. I don't know that 2:06:04.120 --> 2:06:09.680 you got I'm not doing drinking actually, like that damn 2:06:10.200 --> 2:06:11.160 ship for Rall. 2:06:11.120 --> 2:06:13.440 And Damn Timbo that's a hard one. 2:06:16.320 --> 2:06:17.760 Chris Brown is Trey songs. 2:06:19.040 --> 2:06:20.760 Now, we're not doing that. 2:06:21.160 --> 2:06:24.080 I guess you guys, by the way, that's just what 2:06:24.120 --> 2:06:25.600 are y'all doing? The mean man? 2:06:25.680 --> 2:06:29.520 Come on, come on man, yeah, how I'm on Pitt 2:06:29.640 --> 2:06:30.360 Virginia Artist. 2:06:31.440 --> 2:06:32.760 What happened? You did that? 2:06:32.760 --> 2:06:32.920 Bro? 2:06:33.320 --> 2:06:34.800 What then are you doing on my music? 2:06:34.840 --> 2:06:35.000 Bro? 2:06:35.840 --> 2:06:36.640 You drink and drunk? 2:06:36.720 --> 2:06:39.200 Come on first, Booge you almost broke my record and 2:06:39.920 --> 2:06:45.400 what they yeah. 2:06:45.640 --> 2:06:55.640 Stuff anxiety exact. I was like this boot you record 2:06:55.680 --> 2:06:56.360 for so long? 2:06:56.400 --> 2:06:59.560 So he's doing in the middle one like talking my 2:06:59.640 --> 2:07:01.280 stream in so bout you grabs this. 2:07:01.680 --> 2:07:03.560 Yeah, it was like this is not funny. And he's 2:07:03.640 --> 2:07:05.240 like this what is he said? 2:07:05.760 --> 2:07:09.760 Inctal property and he was taking the mind go to 2:07:09.840 --> 2:07:14.960 the cloud, cloud cloud, and then like you know. 2:07:15.240 --> 2:07:19.000 What, I'm like, he's saying that physical boy. 2:07:26.520 --> 2:07:31.720 Space because he's saying in the world's record. 2:07:32.080 --> 2:07:38.760 You know that's what I was gonna be, like health records, 2:07:38.840 --> 2:07:39.120 just like you. 2:07:41.280 --> 2:07:44.080 But that's right, that's my pay fast blessing. 2:07:48.080 --> 2:07:49.440 Okay, held on, where's the next one? 2:07:49.600 --> 2:07:50.840 And you trained Chris y'all? 2:07:51.240 --> 2:07:56.400 Yeah, yeah, that's the missy or Eve missy Okay, you 2:07:56.560 --> 2:08:03.200 mean it. He's let us on dog Pound. First of all, 2:08:03.200 --> 2:08:08.120 it's gonna be the clips. That's family. But I had 2:08:08.240 --> 2:08:10.839 do have not even a story, but I do remember 2:08:11.320 --> 2:08:14.400 you probably don't. Most people probably don't remember this when 2:08:14.400 --> 2:08:17.720 we but we were talking about when I thought Kris. 2:08:17.360 --> 2:08:18.560 One just this. 2:08:19.680 --> 2:08:23.240 So at the beginning of New York, New York, when 2:08:23.280 --> 2:08:25.920 the song comes on and you start hearing the fading, 2:08:25.960 --> 2:08:28.760 you start hearing we don't even and they start talking 2:08:28.840 --> 2:08:32.280 New York Yo, b yo, be your word of mother son, 2:08:33.120 --> 2:08:35.360 and then you hear niggas say, yo, I got mad 2:08:35.440 --> 2:08:41.480 skills son like right in the beginning, just talking about 2:08:42.520 --> 2:08:44.640 but I knew, I knew they was trying. They was. 2:08:44.800 --> 2:08:47.320 I knew it was they was this. There was there 2:08:47.360 --> 2:08:47.960 was no question. 2:08:48.280 --> 2:08:51.960 But I always remember that, like, damn, like that isn't 2:08:51.960 --> 2:08:54.840 corrupt say my name and the song. I should have said, 2:08:56.040 --> 2:08:58.360 it's so low though, but if you go back and listen, 2:08:58.400 --> 2:08:59.360 you can hear it and ship. 2:09:00.000 --> 2:09:03.440 I was so mad when Poked and mentioned us missed 2:09:04.080 --> 2:09:04.920 it was all record. 2:09:05.360 --> 2:09:08.040 I was like, damn, bro, I was like, I mean 2:09:08.160 --> 2:09:10.680 he didn't even say he mentioned us at Oh. Like 2:09:10.760 --> 2:09:12.760 I was like, did you gonna do a remix or something? 2:09:12.880 --> 2:09:14.440 I was like, I wanted to. 2:09:15.760 --> 2:09:19.520 What a crazy time man? Okay, here we at m 2:09:19.560 --> 2:09:20.560 O per mob deep. 2:09:21.400 --> 2:09:25.520 Yeah I wanted to ask that one. It took too long, 2:09:25.560 --> 2:09:30.800 but I got an m O P story. Please. 2:09:31.640 --> 2:09:33.760 They did a show in v A at this club 2:09:33.800 --> 2:09:36.560 called Flavors and it was them I want to say, 2:09:36.600 --> 2:09:40.920 original original gun Clappers o GC and it was Jay Rue. 2:09:41.920 --> 2:09:43.520 Motherfuckers wasn't feeling Jay Rope. 2:09:43.760 --> 2:09:46.120 They were scammaging. They was tossing it up on the 2:09:46.160 --> 2:09:50.760 stage or whatever, and it was it was like, yeah, 2:09:50.760 --> 2:09:51.720 we're not really hit that. 2:09:52.360 --> 2:09:54.320 Where is this against them? Sin Virginia. 2:09:54.400 --> 2:09:56.680 This is he had come clean? Yeah you want the 2:09:56.680 --> 2:10:01.280 front J's dope. Though it was back there, it was early. 2:10:01.320 --> 2:10:04.000 I don't even think the record had caught on before 2:10:04.040 --> 2:10:04.640 the record was in. 2:10:04.760 --> 2:10:09.360 Ce comes out, they do their thing, and the mop 2:10:09.520 --> 2:10:15.320 come on stage. I'll never forget it. Them niggas had 2:10:16.440 --> 2:10:20.880 a slew of people with and Fame got on the 2:10:20.960 --> 2:10:22.680 mic and was like, yeah, you know what I'm saying, 2:10:22.680 --> 2:10:24.960 We from New York. You know what I'm saying, Browns 2:10:25.120 --> 2:10:27.800 whatever he was saying, mash our posse. You know, we're 2:10:27.800 --> 2:10:30.080 about to do a couple of songs. We're gonna fucking rap. 2:10:30.240 --> 2:10:31.680 You know what I'm saying. We're gonna play some joints. 2:10:31.680 --> 2:10:33.400 We're gonna get it off here. You know what I'm saying. 2:10:33.440 --> 2:10:35.600 I'm gonna let yall niggas know now, any of y'all 2:10:35.640 --> 2:10:38.160 niggas throw some ship up here, I'm gonna punch y'all 2:10:38.200 --> 2:10:40.320 niggas in the face, and my man right here gonna 2:10:40.360 --> 2:10:43.040 jump off the stage. My man' here gonna jump off 2:10:43.040 --> 2:10:44.880 the stage and kick all your niggas in the face. 2:10:44.960 --> 2:10:46.400 Breach birth style word. 2:10:46.440 --> 2:10:49.640 The mother's son played my ship and the b came 2:10:49.720 --> 2:10:53.800 on and everybody just stood there, and I was like, Yo, 2:10:53.960 --> 2:11:00.640 these niggas like literally like they literally came on stage 2:11:00.720 --> 2:11:05.520 and scared the audience into not doing anything while they 2:11:05.680 --> 2:11:10.440 fucking rapped. And I mean they gonna bought some all 2:11:10.560 --> 2:11:19.120 call and niggas knew that song it and nobody's gonna. 2:11:17.560 --> 2:11:18.920 They were so scared the. 2:11:18.880 --> 2:11:24.440 Crowd wouldn't even say the hook. I watched it happen. 2:11:25.480 --> 2:11:29.480 I swing past the hotel because my DJ was dropping 2:11:29.480 --> 2:11:31.720 off his equipment or whatever. They all in front of 2:11:31.760 --> 2:11:34.280 this rinking because it's a college town. It ain't no 2:11:34.640 --> 2:11:37.960 five star hotels in this town. It's in Petersburg, So 2:11:38.040 --> 2:11:40.760 they stand in front of the hotel and I didn't 2:11:40.760 --> 2:11:42.000 even know they knew who I was. 2:11:42.080 --> 2:11:44.120 So I'm dropping my men off. I give him PAM 2:11:44.480 --> 2:11:44.840 and I. 2:11:44.880 --> 2:11:45.920 Just hear fame go. 2:11:46.520 --> 2:11:50.880 And your man scared. I'm like, shit, this nigga know 2:11:50.960 --> 2:11:55.480 my name. I'm like, what's up? You're with a wei 2:11:55.520 --> 2:11:58.720 that I was like, I was smoked. 2:12:00.120 --> 2:12:03.880 I'll find you something. I don't smoke, you know what 2:12:03.880 --> 2:12:04.280 I'm saying. 2:12:04.280 --> 2:12:06.280 But I was like I remember saying like yeah, man, 2:12:06.280 --> 2:12:08.880 I'll get your I send my man over here, so 2:12:09.120 --> 2:12:10.840 I sent my DJ to go talk to him. 2:12:10.840 --> 2:12:13.360 I think they hooked him up with the plug that night. 2:12:13.520 --> 2:12:14.040 But I just. 2:12:14.000 --> 2:12:16.440 Remember how scared they had everybody in that club. 2:12:16.800 --> 2:12:17.080 It was. 2:12:17.160 --> 2:12:20.880 But it's slipped all day in Virginia. Man, they came 2:12:20.960 --> 2:12:22.520 down there and scared the audience. 2:12:23.120 --> 2:12:30.280 Yeah, next one. 2:12:27.600 --> 2:12:30.360 Teddy Riley or Q tip Q tip come on man. 2:12:31.040 --> 2:12:33.000 But he said that quickly. Two money styles. 2:12:33.280 --> 2:12:35.560 But everything. 2:12:35.560 --> 2:12:37.920 It's funny because every time I when I see Teddy, right, 2:12:38.000 --> 2:12:40.160 he don't even call me mask. He's just called me Virginia. 2:12:40.560 --> 2:12:42.400 Every time I see he say what Virginia? He don't 2:12:42.400 --> 2:12:45.880 even say my name Virginia. We got to say we 2:12:45.920 --> 2:12:49.440 got the same lawyer. But yeah, it's q tip all day. 2:12:49.480 --> 2:12:56.000 And y'all already know why. Okay, loyalty or respect? How 2:12:56.000 --> 2:13:00.800 about trust? He threw a third one in there, because 2:13:00.840 --> 2:13:04.640 I feel like this. I feel like I feel like 2:13:04.640 --> 2:13:09.160 trust is I'd rather be trusted than love because I 2:13:09.160 --> 2:13:13.839 feel like if I trust you, I'll go through anything 2:13:13.880 --> 2:13:17.120 with you. If I trust you, the love gonna be 2:13:17.120 --> 2:13:22.120 there regardless if I trust you. So for me, outside 2:13:22.120 --> 2:13:24.080 of loyalty and respect, even though you didn't ask, I 2:13:24.080 --> 2:13:25.880 would say trust. But if I had to pick one, 2:13:26.720 --> 2:13:30.800 I would say the loyalty because if I got the loyalty, 2:13:30.800 --> 2:13:32.400 the respect will come. 2:13:34.400 --> 2:13:35.120 Yeah, you know what I mean. 2:13:35.160 --> 2:13:37.640 And so many they write they write in the same 2:13:37.720 --> 2:13:38.640 vein you. 2:13:38.560 --> 2:13:41.600 Know what I mean. So yeah, I would say loyalty. Okay. 2:13:42.120 --> 2:13:45.240 So now you said you had a we're gonna we're 2:13:45.240 --> 2:13:48.880 gonna recap the run DMC story. He has a follow 2:13:48.960 --> 2:13:49.240 up to it. 2:13:49.600 --> 2:13:50.000 Follow up. 2:13:50.040 --> 2:13:50.280 Okay. 2:13:50.280 --> 2:13:53.000 So so you remember the first time I was on 2:13:53.120 --> 2:13:55.640 hen and I said, here's the quick version. I said, 2:13:55.720 --> 2:13:58.440 run them run from run dem see played me three 2:13:58.520 --> 2:14:01.200 times in my life. Up my hand out, you'll give 2:14:01.240 --> 2:14:02.680 him a pair of niggas, pat me on the. 2:14:02.720 --> 2:14:03.840 Back, walked off. 2:14:05.560 --> 2:14:10.480 I told y'all this story how many years ago, and 2:14:10.520 --> 2:14:14.120 it goes viral. It's the biggest moment from my drink 2:14:14.160 --> 2:14:19.320 tam Mad Skills tried to beat up Red Run. Everybody 2:14:19.480 --> 2:14:22.560 seen it. It was an aggressive story in your past 2:14:22.600 --> 2:14:25.400 because y'all called me at the end of drink Champs and. 2:14:25.440 --> 2:14:26.520 Let me tell y'all what y'all did. 2:14:26.600 --> 2:14:28.080 Let me tell you. Let me explain something to you. 2:14:28.280 --> 2:14:30.200 This is what y'all did to me last time. Because 2:14:30.200 --> 2:14:33.600 I'm smarter now. I came here last time. The show's 2:14:33.640 --> 2:14:35.840 called Drink Champs. It is what it is. I get it. 2:14:36.000 --> 2:14:39.920 I'm a lightweight. I counted how many shots I took 2:14:39.960 --> 2:14:43.880 on drink. It was eleven fucking shots. 2:14:44.000 --> 2:14:44.840 Can I tell you something? 2:14:44.840 --> 2:14:47.240 You know, when we recounted you come in on drinks chants, 2:14:47.280 --> 2:14:48.680 We're like, we don't think he drank. 2:14:51.040 --> 2:14:51.960 And let me shot. 2:14:52.440 --> 2:14:59.800 Ask God, now, I don't think he drinks. Disrespectful ship. 2:15:00.240 --> 2:15:03.120 This is the most disrespectful thing and Noy ever did 2:15:03.160 --> 2:15:07.000 to me. I did all of those drinks. I say, 2:15:07.080 --> 2:15:09.920 I'm saving his story for the book. Noy says, no, no, 2:15:09.960 --> 2:15:14.480 you got I tell the story ruin your book. 2:15:16.400 --> 2:15:17.120 That's what we do. 2:15:17.760 --> 2:15:20.440 I tell the story. Story goes viral. 2:15:22.080 --> 2:15:25.600 The next week, I watched Drink Champs and Cam is 2:15:25.640 --> 2:15:30.480 on here. First time, Killer Cam I think was on here, 2:15:31.560 --> 2:15:32.440 and y'all said. 2:15:32.320 --> 2:15:34.960 Y'all make some noise, Killer Cam hale them all that. 2:15:34.960 --> 2:15:38.320 Shit, y'all off of caim a drink and that nigga says, yeah, 2:15:38.320 --> 2:15:47.440 I ain't drinking, and I go the fucking drinks always 2:15:47.880 --> 2:15:52.040 so boom. Anyway, I go off of the rails and 2:15:52.080 --> 2:15:54.680 tell the story about how I was gonna beat up 2:15:54.760 --> 2:15:59.680 Run from Run DMC. I actually find the video of 2:16:00.040 --> 2:16:04.600 and Run violated me at the concerts show show. 2:16:04.720 --> 2:16:05.960 It's on my gram. 2:16:06.000 --> 2:16:09.200 I dubbed the video up after when he said, Yo, 2:16:09.240 --> 2:16:11.560 and man, he ain't no photographer. He working that nigga 2:16:11.640 --> 2:16:15.440 like he he. I didn't see the video, okay, So 2:16:15.640 --> 2:16:17.960 the moment was viral from when I said I was 2:16:17.960 --> 2:16:21.440 gonna jump on then the video everybody I can't Skills 2:16:21.440 --> 2:16:28.000 got received. This really happened fast forward, the moment dies down. 2:16:28.120 --> 2:16:31.840 Whatever I'm in v A, it's my birthday. I'm out 2:16:31.880 --> 2:16:35.360 with my family getting something to eat. 2:16:36.720 --> 2:16:38.640 Chill now. It might have been like a Tuesday or so. 2:16:39.200 --> 2:16:43.240 Charlie matcoor Charlie mac calls care punt Charlie mack from 2:16:43.240 --> 2:16:47.440 Philly because Charlie mack han talked to Jazzy Jeff and said, Yo, 2:16:47.480 --> 2:16:49.560 I seen an interview with this nigga Skills talking about 2:16:49.560 --> 2:16:50.400 he was gonna beat up Run. 2:16:50.640 --> 2:16:53.760 Is wrong with this nigga? Yo, Yo, you don't talk 2:16:53.800 --> 2:16:55.680 about our legends like that. I'm not doing that. Baby, 2:16:55.720 --> 2:16:58.119 You're not, Charlie, so we're not Jeff. 2:16:58.320 --> 2:17:01.400 Jeff Skills got tightened up and if Jeff tells Charlie, 2:17:01.440 --> 2:17:04.000 who he's known since he was six six seven fifteen. 2:17:04.160 --> 2:17:08.240 He said, Charlie, I was with Skills that night, and. 2:17:10.320 --> 2:17:13.680 It was warranted what he said. 2:17:13.760 --> 2:17:13.960 Yo. 2:17:14.160 --> 2:17:16.879 If if Skills would have took off, he. 2:17:16.840 --> 2:17:20.800 Kind of had, Charlie, he had, he had legs. 2:17:19.600 --> 2:17:24.240 He got wild, disrespected. No, no, baby, I don't make 2:17:24.280 --> 2:17:25.200 this right. And make this right. 2:17:25.640 --> 2:17:27.760 It's my birthday. I'm with my family. 2:17:27.800 --> 2:17:32.600 My phone rings, it's Charlie Meg. I'm thinking he called 2:17:32.600 --> 2:17:35.920 me to tell me happy birthday or tell me, you know, 2:17:36.080 --> 2:17:37.800 maybe you know, Will might. 2:17:37.680 --> 2:17:41.600 Want to start working on some music or something. He's like, Yo, 2:17:41.840 --> 2:17:42.400 where you at? 2:17:42.760 --> 2:17:48.360 I said, I'm out eating with my family. Yo, step outside. Hey, 2:17:48.480 --> 2:17:53.080 Nigga just said him with my family? He ain't me Skills. 2:17:54.160 --> 2:17:56.320 This is me, baby, I said, Charlie, I know who 2:17:56.320 --> 2:18:01.400 it is. Since Charlie Mag, I'm with my family. Were 2:18:01.480 --> 2:18:03.160 right in the middle, like you know what I mean. 2:18:03.520 --> 2:18:05.400 I know that the cake is coming in a minute 2:18:05.400 --> 2:18:07.560 with the happy birthday on everybody. 2:18:09.000 --> 2:18:09.520 Like Charlie. 2:18:09.560 --> 2:18:11.640 He like, step outside where you are? I said, I'm 2:18:11.720 --> 2:18:15.640 with my family? Step outside, I said. Charlie said, Skills, 2:18:15.640 --> 2:18:19.560 do I ever ask you for anything? I said no, well, 2:18:19.560 --> 2:18:21.680 can you do me this one? Favorite step outside for 2:18:21.720 --> 2:18:22.200 a second. 2:18:22.240 --> 2:18:22.800 I can't hear it. 2:18:23.000 --> 2:18:24.600 I can't hear you his why it's busy In that, 2:18:25.440 --> 2:18:29.160 I said, I walk outside. I tell my family, I 2:18:29.200 --> 2:18:34.640 step outside by myself, outside in front of this restaurant. Hello, 2:18:35.680 --> 2:18:40.240 I said hello. I hear somebody say, is this mad skills? 2:18:41.040 --> 2:18:44.120 I said, oh shit. As soon as he said this, 2:18:44.320 --> 2:18:48.440 I was like, this is run. He says, is am 2:18:48.480 --> 2:18:52.480 I speaking to mad skills? I automatically turned back into 2:18:52.560 --> 2:18:57.080 the thirteen year old kid. I said, yes, sir. He said, 2:18:57.200 --> 2:19:00.640 first of all, I want to apologize to you. I 2:19:00.680 --> 2:19:02.879 said no, no, no, no no. I said no, no, no, you know, 2:19:02.959 --> 2:19:04.720 I said, run. You don't have to rev you don't 2:19:04.720 --> 2:19:06.600 have to do He said, no, no, no, I do. I 2:19:06.640 --> 2:19:09.320 do have to do this. He said, let me do this. 2:19:09.480 --> 2:19:13.080 I said, okay. He said, I want to apologize to 2:19:13.120 --> 2:19:15.480 you for how I treated you when I met you 2:19:16.200 --> 2:19:19.879 when you were thirteen, when I met you again, and then. 2:19:19.840 --> 2:19:21.360 The last time that I saw you. 2:19:23.280 --> 2:19:26.039 Well, he said it on the show he went, he 2:19:26.080 --> 2:19:29.119 went chronicle with so he said. I said, I said, 2:19:29.160 --> 2:19:30.840 I said, yo, man like. He said, no, no, no, 2:19:30.879 --> 2:19:33.840 He said, it's not cool. It wasn't cool then, it's 2:19:33.879 --> 2:19:37.560 not cool now. He said, I just want to apologize 2:19:37.600 --> 2:19:40.280 to you because I didn't know who. 2:19:40.520 --> 2:19:41.080 I didn't not. 2:19:41.480 --> 2:19:43.160 I did not that you have to be somebody to 2:19:43.200 --> 2:19:46.080 be treated a certain way, but I was another person. 2:19:46.120 --> 2:19:49.400 Then I want to apologize to you now. And I said, oh, man, 2:19:49.440 --> 2:19:51.080 I said, run, I really appreciate that. 2:19:51.120 --> 2:19:51.440 He said. 2:19:51.560 --> 2:19:55.160 Also, I'm sitting here and I'm looking at I have 2:19:55.280 --> 2:20:00.000 your hat right here. I said, right ware. He said, 2:20:00.080 --> 2:20:02.760 I haven't right here. He said, I'm old school. I 2:20:02.760 --> 2:20:05.320 got a pen and I got some paper. So if 2:20:05.320 --> 2:20:08.280 you tell me your address, I'm going to send this 2:20:08.320 --> 2:20:10.720 to you FedEx and it will be to you next 2:20:10.800 --> 2:20:11.440 two days. 2:20:12.080 --> 2:20:18.480 I spit my address right, he says. He said. And 2:20:18.520 --> 2:20:19.760 I heard it's your birthday today. 2:20:19.760 --> 2:20:22.640 I said yeah. He said, happy birthday. I said, wow, 2:20:23.040 --> 2:20:26.120 thank you. He said, that's all love. He said, Charle, 2:20:26.280 --> 2:20:30.040 He said, I heard this story. It was moving around 2:20:30.040 --> 2:20:32.320 a couple of people told me about it, and I was, like, 2:20:32.520 --> 2:20:37.280 I asked, he said, I asked some people. 2:20:37.280 --> 2:20:37.600 He said. 2:20:37.760 --> 2:20:40.959 I thought to myself, who knows everybody? Charlie mc knows everybody. 2:20:41.120 --> 2:20:42.600 So I called him and I said, do you know 2:20:42.640 --> 2:20:45.160 a guy named Mad Skills, and Charlie said, that's my guy. 2:20:45.480 --> 2:20:48.360 Is I need. I need his phone number and his address. 2:20:48.400 --> 2:20:50.760 Charlie said, I call him right now. So they called 2:20:50.760 --> 2:20:54.800 me and it just happened. It happen for my birthday. 2:20:54.959 --> 2:20:59.480 I give him the address. Charlie says, look, do me 2:20:59.480 --> 2:21:03.360 a favor. When you get the box, don't open it. 2:21:03.920 --> 2:21:06.920 FaceTime me when you about to open it. I said, 2:21:06.959 --> 2:21:11.560 all right, cool box comes in two days. I facetimed 2:21:11.640 --> 2:21:14.640 Charlie Matt. I got the box in front of me. 2:21:15.080 --> 2:21:16.640 I got a camera. I got it because I got 2:21:16.720 --> 2:21:19.119 I got a camera here because I got I gotta 2:21:19.120 --> 2:21:22.800 get that moment. Yes, face time. Charlie Mack picks on 2:21:22.840 --> 2:21:24.840 the phone. Chart Mac says, Yo, you got it. I 2:21:24.840 --> 2:21:27.959 said yeah, he said, hold on. He clicks over. Two 2:21:28.000 --> 2:21:29.959 faces pop up on my phone. Charlie back on the 2:21:29.959 --> 2:21:30.920 top box, Red. 2:21:30.800 --> 2:21:31.600 Run on the bottom. 2:21:32.040 --> 2:21:35.720 Red Run goes, Yo, you got the hat. I said yeah. 2:21:35.800 --> 2:21:38.480 Charlie said, open up the box, baby, open that shit up. 2:21:39.440 --> 2:21:41.959 Charlie going hand. I opened up the box. It's a 2:21:42.080 --> 2:21:45.840 note in it. It says too too mask. I can't 2:21:45.840 --> 2:21:50.040 remember what it says. Paraphraser two Mad skills, enjoy your birthday. 2:21:50.320 --> 2:21:53.000 Here's your hat. Keep doing great things. 2:21:53.040 --> 2:21:53.600 Rev. Run. 2:21:54.920 --> 2:21:59.640 I'm looking at the box, run goes. Charlie goes. He said, now, 2:21:59.720 --> 2:22:02.280 he said, that's not a new hat. That's the hat 2:22:02.280 --> 2:22:06.160 that I won before. That's that's not I didn't just 2:22:06.320 --> 2:22:08.840 get you a hat. That's one out of my collection. 2:22:09.000 --> 2:22:11.720 So that's one of the prize ones. I was like, 2:22:11.760 --> 2:22:13.920 oh my, I said, run, thank you so much. He said, 2:22:13.920 --> 2:22:15.800 how is it how you feel? I said, yo, I 2:22:15.879 --> 2:22:18.760 feel like a thirteen year old kid again. Man, I'm 2:22:18.840 --> 2:22:22.000 wilding right now. Charlie says, yo, put the hat on. 2:22:24.480 --> 2:22:26.160 I take I take the phone, put it on and 2:22:26.200 --> 2:22:28.560 put it on the thing. I take the hat. I 2:22:28.600 --> 2:22:30.959 start putting the hat on. When I start putting the 2:22:31.040 --> 2:22:35.600 hat on, Charlie, Matt goes, run run right right right, Run, 2:22:35.640 --> 2:22:37.440 starts going. 2:22:37.480 --> 2:22:41.240 I'm like, so I put the hat on. 2:22:41.400 --> 2:22:44.560 Charlie said, cross the alls, b boy, staff, crossed the moms. 2:22:44.760 --> 2:22:46.880 I crossed my arms and look at Buffy and they're 2:22:46.920 --> 2:22:51.720 like yeah. I'm like, yo, this is so. 2:22:52.040 --> 2:22:53.800 I'm like, that's how. 2:22:53.879 --> 2:22:56.840 And I posted that on my Gram and it was 2:22:57.800 --> 2:23:00.480 two thousand comments, people being like, oh, this is this. 2:23:00.720 --> 2:23:03.240 I love when hip hop connects and the story ended 2:23:03.320 --> 2:23:05.240 up well, and that's side the story. And I got 2:23:05.240 --> 2:23:08.400 the hat and I got a shoe signed from DMC. 2:23:08.600 --> 2:23:10.760 So I got the hat from running and the shoe 2:23:10.959 --> 2:23:13.640 a shelter in my studio from both of them. 2:23:13.879 --> 2:23:18.560 That's dope. So happy for that. 2:23:18.560 --> 2:23:22.160 Story, bro, He's like, yo, man, we're so happy because 2:23:22.440 --> 2:23:25.720 you know, it's one thing, you know, to document our history, 2:23:25.760 --> 2:23:30.039 you know, and then it's one thing to keep making it. Yes, 2:23:30.320 --> 2:23:32.320 you know, because that's what we're doing. We're documenting it 2:23:32.440 --> 2:23:37.360 and you know, making it and documenting it. And for 2:23:37.440 --> 2:23:39.640 us to have anything to do with that, that's pretty 2:23:39.720 --> 2:23:41.200 pretty man. 2:23:41.360 --> 2:23:44.120 And you hitting me up about it, man, Yeah, it 2:23:44.200 --> 2:23:46.720 makes something to happen, man, But it happened, yeah man, 2:23:46.760 --> 2:23:47.760 hell yeah, hell yeah. 2:23:48.040 --> 2:23:51.280 So you and Jeffer's cool, your every one is cool. Yes, okay, 2:23:51.280 --> 2:23:52.120 all right, cool ship. 2:23:53.000 --> 2:23:55.680 But I want to ask you, because I really do 2:23:55.720 --> 2:23:59.320 love this record that you did with the Artifacts. Can 2:23:59.320 --> 2:24:01.039 you tell me I was all whack could tell me 2:24:01.080 --> 2:24:03.520 a story about this record? And you know ri ip 2:24:03.720 --> 2:24:06.760 ta one, Yes, I love the Artifacts. Tell me about 2:24:06.760 --> 2:24:10.000 this record I signed, I got, I got signed to 2:24:10.080 --> 2:24:10.840 Big Beat. 2:24:11.040 --> 2:24:14.560 Uh. I want to say right after the New Music 2:24:14.600 --> 2:24:18.400 Seminar when I battled Supernatural because it was like I 2:24:18.440 --> 2:24:21.240 had sent out demos, but my tape is just sitting 2:24:21.280 --> 2:24:24.160 in offices and sitting there, Tommy Boys sitting there loud. 2:24:24.840 --> 2:24:29.240 Nobody checked it. I do this seminar battle and everybody 2:24:29.280 --> 2:24:32.360 I sent the tape to its all in the same room. 2:24:32.640 --> 2:24:36.199 Reef Eclipse Search from Wild Pitch. 2:24:36.240 --> 2:24:38.640 Everybody's in the same room because this is the DJ 2:24:38.720 --> 2:24:41.920 battle in the MC battles battle. I do the song. 2:24:41.959 --> 2:24:44.560 I mean, I do the battle, and then the next Monday, 2:24:44.600 --> 2:24:47.240 it's like a bidding wark. They like everybody trying to 2:24:47.280 --> 2:24:50.039 sign this kid mad skills. I don't sign yet. I 2:24:50.120 --> 2:24:52.080 go back and forth. Q Tip takes me to stretch 2:24:52.120 --> 2:24:55.240 them by bido. I do another freestyle that goes up, 2:24:56.520 --> 2:24:58.000 and Reef got me like a. 2:24:59.760 --> 2:25:02.800 Chain and face his budget. I had a big ass budget. 2:25:03.280 --> 2:25:07.000 That's how I was able to get Q Tip, Clark Kent, 2:25:07.400 --> 2:25:11.600 all these people and the artifacts. Reef was like, I 2:25:11.640 --> 2:25:13.640 want you to I got a song. I mean easy 2:25:13.760 --> 2:25:19.480 LP did that remix. Shout Easop he did that remix, 2:25:19.600 --> 2:25:24.119 and Easyop did that remix. Yeah, I hey little brother, 2:25:24.240 --> 2:25:26.720 yeah second bro. I did not look deeply into this. 2:25:27.360 --> 2:25:29.800 Yeah, w don't you read it upside down? 2:25:30.200 --> 2:25:33.120 No, bro, he got it right. So I did this song, 2:25:33.760 --> 2:25:36.240 and I remember when it came out. 2:25:36.440 --> 2:25:38.680 I remember buying a Coscess single and I saw my name, 2:25:38.720 --> 2:25:41.000 you know, my name and the credits and featuring the 2:25:41.080 --> 2:25:43.280 my government name you know for the ass cat be 2:25:43.360 --> 2:25:46.320 at mine whatever, and I was like, damn, Like, so 2:25:46.360 --> 2:25:48.560 the Artifacts was the first people to actually let me 2:25:48.560 --> 2:25:50.520 get on because they could have said no, you know 2:25:50.560 --> 2:25:52.480 what I'm saying, like I don't know about dude, like 2:25:52.560 --> 2:25:55.320 he ain't even he from Jersey hometown, Like you know 2:25:55.320 --> 2:25:58.720 what I'm saying, But they let me get on, and 2:25:58.720 --> 2:25:59.400 and I'm. 2:25:59.200 --> 2:26:01.640 Forever grateful to him for that. It's a great record, man, 2:26:02.240 --> 2:26:04.600 it was a super amazing record. I wish you had 2:26:04.600 --> 2:26:06.360 did a video for it. We didn't get a chance to. 2:26:06.680 --> 2:26:08.160 It was on the table for a minute, but then 2:26:08.160 --> 2:26:08.840 we didn't do it. 2:26:09.120 --> 2:26:11.640 But yeah, that was that was reefing and the Artifacts 2:26:11.680 --> 2:26:13.520 is showing love like he's the new kid. 2:26:13.879 --> 2:26:15.440 Let's let's get a verse on the new kid. 2:26:16.760 --> 2:26:19.240 I heard you say on I Forget with an interview. 2:26:19.520 --> 2:26:24.439 You said you made one girl record, right and and 2:26:24.440 --> 2:26:26.160 he said the reaction you got for it. You said 2:26:26.160 --> 2:26:29.880 you wish we would have been I wish I told 2:26:29.959 --> 2:26:31.080 you that was record. 2:26:31.920 --> 2:26:34.520 It's a record called for Real. It's called for Real. 2:26:34.560 --> 2:26:35.200 He don't own me. 2:26:36.800 --> 2:26:39.640 Bank did that song and Bank already had the hook 2:26:39.640 --> 2:26:41.320 and everything. Somebody else was singing and. 2:26:41.240 --> 2:26:43.000 I heard it not hen on me. 2:26:43.280 --> 2:26:46.240 Yeah, yeah, okay, And that was probably the only that 2:26:46.360 --> 2:26:48.680 was probably one of the first records that I was like, 2:26:48.760 --> 2:26:52.920 I've seen how I reacted with women, and you know. 2:26:52.879 --> 2:26:53.800 I was like, damn. 2:26:54.000 --> 2:26:57.000 I really looked at LL different after that, Like damn, 2:26:57.320 --> 2:26:59.560 because as a DJ, like you know, as a DJ, 2:26:59.680 --> 2:27:02.200 we play for the women in the party because we 2:27:02.240 --> 2:27:04.199 know the dudes come in regardless. If it's women, there's 2:27:04.200 --> 2:27:06.720 gonna be it's gonna be girl, it's gonna be, they 2:27:06.840 --> 2:27:10.440 gonna be there. So I just wish that I had 2:27:10.480 --> 2:27:14.680 started earlier. But but those types of records are very 2:27:15.480 --> 2:27:18.320 you know, keen to to people's successes because you can 2:27:18.400 --> 2:27:21.840 always perform those records like I just dropped the record 2:27:22.600 --> 2:27:24.400 maybe like I will dropped the video for a record 2:27:24.440 --> 2:27:28.640 maybe like a month ago, called the Golden Girls, where 2:27:28.680 --> 2:27:33.440 I name every female that's ever been mentioned in a 2:27:33.560 --> 2:27:34.039 rap song. 2:27:34.800 --> 2:27:36.720 So Benita Applebaum. 2:27:36.879 --> 2:27:42.320 Jane Davett, Veronica of Veronica. Damn, I ain't put super well, 2:27:42.320 --> 2:27:44.000 I said, I said from the golden era. 2:27:44.200 --> 2:27:49.000 So he's the end of the going there. 2:27:49.760 --> 2:27:52.039 So the funny part is, so I shoot, I get 2:27:52.040 --> 2:27:53.920 a new camera and I'm just at the studio and 2:27:53.920 --> 2:27:55.120 I came with the idea. I was like that this 2:27:55.240 --> 2:27:57.080 might be dope. It was fifty years of hip hop. 2:27:57.240 --> 2:27:58.600 I was like, Yo, I might this might be dope 2:27:58.640 --> 2:28:01.240 to just shoot a little videos on ig whatever whatever. 2:28:01.560 --> 2:28:05.280 I shoot the video edited myself and throwing all of 2:28:05.320 --> 2:28:08.560 the clips of all of the girls, and the ship 2:28:08.680 --> 2:28:10.720 goes up and people are like, Yo, this record is 2:28:10.760 --> 2:28:13.120 so dope and so fresh man, this is this is 2:28:13.160 --> 2:28:15.400 what hip hop needs this. I'm like, yo, this record 2:28:15.440 --> 2:28:17.760 is twelve years old. They don't even know I just 2:28:17.760 --> 2:28:19.360 shot a video for it now because I got a 2:28:19.360 --> 2:28:23.160 new camera. But it's like the record old as hell, 2:28:23.480 --> 2:28:26.840 you know what I'm saying. But it still resonates with people. 2:28:26.920 --> 2:28:29.200 So you know, when you make things like that, man, 2:28:29.360 --> 2:28:32.959 you gotta pay attention to your audience and what's missing 2:28:33.040 --> 2:28:34.879 in the marketplace too, you know what I'm saying. 2:28:34.920 --> 2:28:37.000 So it was just it was just one of the things. 2:28:37.000 --> 2:28:38.760 It was a dope. I dis I just did it. 2:28:39.440 --> 2:28:40.800 If you had a chance to do it all over, 2:28:40.879 --> 2:28:41.920 would you? Oh? 2:28:42.000 --> 2:28:43.760 If I had, If I had a chance to do 2:28:43.800 --> 2:28:47.959 it all over, my first record would have been Beanita, Benita, Benita. 2:28:48.160 --> 2:28:51.680 I would have started with a girl looking So it's okay, 2:28:51.840 --> 2:28:55.520 so celeborate on that. This mad skills? What would this 2:28:55.640 --> 2:29:02.920 mad skills? Tell this mad skills? Great question, Go for 2:29:03.000 --> 2:29:07.560 the bitches. I don't know. 2:29:08.760 --> 2:29:12.160 I wouldn't have interfered with him because his path was 2:29:12.200 --> 2:29:17.640 his path, and I wouldn't have been I wouldn't have 2:29:17.680 --> 2:29:20.040 been seasoned or smart enough to handle all of this 2:29:20.120 --> 2:29:23.039 ship that might have came out way then. I was 2:29:23.080 --> 2:29:26.119 so bit barring up. I was ready to rap against anybody. 2:29:26.200 --> 2:29:28.240 I thought, if you had the best bars, you would 2:29:28.280 --> 2:29:30.480 be the best rapper, not the best selling rapper. 2:29:30.959 --> 2:29:34.720 You know what I'm saying. Did selling matter to you? 2:29:34.800 --> 2:29:34.879 Like? 2:29:34.959 --> 2:29:37.080 Did did how many copies you sold? 2:29:37.080 --> 2:29:39.640 Because I mean the era we were in in that timeframe, 2:29:40.160 --> 2:29:41.199 that didn't really. 2:29:41.080 --> 2:29:43.480 Yeah it didn't really matter. But maybe at the major 2:29:43.720 --> 2:29:45.720 when you were signed, Yeah, maybe you were. 2:29:45.840 --> 2:29:48.039 I might Yeah I didn't, you know, I gotta let 2:29:48.080 --> 2:29:49.480 go or whatever. I didn't sell him enough. 2:29:50.320 --> 2:29:50.959 But that was right. 2:29:51.000 --> 2:29:54.040 But when the Jiggy Erea came in, so crush crush 2:29:54.120 --> 2:29:56.560 on you came out and get money, and it was 2:29:56.600 --> 2:30:00.480 over fit anybody with it. 2:30:00.760 --> 2:30:02.680 No, no, no, just just the shiny suit. 2:30:02.520 --> 2:30:07.800 Era, you know, and everything that went back boy yeah, 2:30:08.000 --> 2:30:10.959 bad boy in the ninety six coming into ninety seven 2:30:11.080 --> 2:30:12.320 before Biggie passed away. 2:30:13.040 --> 2:30:17.360 It was Oh, I hated them everybody on that side. 2:30:17.360 --> 2:30:19.720 I had on army fatigues at that time. I had 2:30:19.760 --> 2:30:22.520 a straight army. They got a shiny suits. You still 2:30:22.560 --> 2:30:25.840 got it? What you can still rap? No, I don't 2:30:25.879 --> 2:30:26.400 really rap. 2:30:27.720 --> 2:30:28.879 I knew he was trying to. 2:30:28.920 --> 2:30:28.960 No. 2:30:29.720 --> 2:30:33.480 No, I spit every now and then, but I just 2:30:33.600 --> 2:30:33.879 you know. 2:30:34.280 --> 2:30:37.040 I ain't gonna I'm only gonna wrap if Nori raps 2:30:38.320 --> 2:30:41.039 ain't rapping hook no. 2:30:41.160 --> 2:30:43.920 So but that's that's something I forgot to ask you 2:30:43.920 --> 2:30:44.480 on quick Time. 2:30:44.480 --> 2:30:51.039 It's line rapping on DJ. You say something, J what 2:30:51.080 --> 2:30:51.520 I what? 2:30:51.600 --> 2:30:54.240 I lost the passion that I lost and rap and 2:30:54.280 --> 2:30:59.480 I found in DJ did a little bit not really crazy. 2:30:59.520 --> 2:31:03.280 So you found on this passion afterwards? Yeah? Was it 2:31:03.959 --> 2:31:08.480 pre pandemic though, or pandemic. It's pre pandemic and. 2:31:10.400 --> 2:31:13.240 Your passion of getting in the booth, your passion from 2:31:13.240 --> 2:31:15.160 getting in the booth, and that's when you started the DJ. 2:31:15.400 --> 2:31:17.800 Yeah, is that one memes in the truth? 2:31:20.040 --> 2:31:24.240 I just did a show back at in Va my last, 2:31:24.440 --> 2:31:27.360 my last hip hop show, and I really had fun. 2:31:27.920 --> 2:31:31.000 And I had wrapped them records in years, you know 2:31:31.040 --> 2:31:31.520 what I'm saying. 2:31:31.600 --> 2:31:34.240 And I had a whole I had a. 2:31:34.160 --> 2:31:38.560 Whole festival like show crazy. I was shot congret that 2:31:38.680 --> 2:31:40.800 many people show, you. 2:31:40.840 --> 2:31:41.320 Know what I mean. 2:31:41.360 --> 2:31:45.160 And I brought out Freeway. Freeway pulled up, Tylip Quality 2:31:45.280 --> 2:31:48.120 pulled up, you know what I'm saying. My man Rahem 2:31:48.200 --> 2:31:51.400 DeVaughn pulled up. I had my homies, Butcher Brown, they 2:31:51.400 --> 2:31:53.600 played with me and it was a dope show. 2:31:53.959 --> 2:31:55.040 And I hadn't spit. 2:31:56.000 --> 2:31:58.800 I hadn't spent some of them songs in fifteen years, 2:31:59.320 --> 2:32:01.959 twelve years, and I had a ball at That show 2:32:02.080 --> 2:32:04.400 was a good So if the bag right, I probably 2:32:04.440 --> 2:32:05.039 hop back. 2:32:04.959 --> 2:32:06.400 Out and do a show. You know what I'm saying. 2:32:06.400 --> 2:32:08.959 But that was my last show in Virginia and I 2:32:09.000 --> 2:32:11.120 went out with a bang. That ship was nutty like 2:32:11.160 --> 2:32:13.600 it was. It shut the city down. The city is 2:32:13.640 --> 2:32:16.039 still on me, texting me daily. Like, yeah, we have 2:32:16.160 --> 2:32:18.039 to do a festival next year, like you. 2:32:18.040 --> 2:32:19.880 Have to your last show. 2:32:20.480 --> 2:32:22.720 It was my last as a rap, as a rapper, 2:32:23.480 --> 2:32:25.720 no man, you yeah. 2:32:25.480 --> 2:32:28.920 I am. I say that all the time to though right. 2:32:28.920 --> 2:32:31.840 Now you you do, you see it all the time 2:32:31.879 --> 2:32:34.640 every year, the last one, last show you did? 2:32:34.840 --> 2:32:36.080 How long ago when you did the show? 2:32:37.240 --> 2:32:40.640 Then? I can't that's DJ right, that was. 2:32:42.240 --> 2:32:44.520 Last summer or two summers ago. 2:32:45.000 --> 2:32:50.640 I think you did something hip hop, you did something. 2:32:54.520 --> 2:32:56.119 Oh yeah, that's before. 2:32:56.120 --> 2:32:59.520 That was twenty twenty lover and lovers in Friends, Lovers 2:32:59.560 --> 2:33:02.360 in French. That was in between that, and that was 2:33:02.400 --> 2:33:06.480 clearly for a bag. I didn't want to perform, like 2:33:06.520 --> 2:33:12.199 you know, there's certain time you want to perform. 2:33:10.120 --> 2:33:11.240 You know. You know what's crazy. 2:33:11.280 --> 2:33:14.360 I heard you mentioned a nod factor earlier and I 2:33:14.360 --> 2:33:16.600 had this, that's one of my notes on a nod factor. 2:33:16.640 --> 2:33:19.720 You said you're like a black president because you ain't 2:33:19.760 --> 2:33:25.000 seeing you and I did the actually we actually hold. 2:33:24.760 --> 2:33:27.800 On, hold on, hold on two war question when. 2:33:27.640 --> 2:33:32.600 You wrote that, was having a black president that far out? 2:33:32.879 --> 2:33:33.080 Yeah? 2:33:33.200 --> 2:33:34.679 Nor right? 2:33:34.840 --> 2:33:37.879 So you got to understand the song I heard before 2:33:37.920 --> 2:33:41.120 that was pop and even though we ain't, we ain't 2:33:41.160 --> 2:33:43.600 ready for a black president, you know what I mean? 2:33:43.720 --> 2:33:48.160 Like you heard that before whole Poxmaker came first. That 2:33:48.280 --> 2:33:51.440 was something I would I could never foresee. But that's 2:33:51.440 --> 2:33:55.879 one of the punchlines that I'm so glad that's changed now. 2:33:56.360 --> 2:33:57.040 That got changed. 2:33:57.480 --> 2:33:59.360 Not like it's not like I can say, yo, you 2:33:59.400 --> 2:34:01.240 go to the hood, can still kill the niggas. That's 2:34:01.480 --> 2:34:05.040 that's still happen. But I'm glad that I can. Like 2:34:05.200 --> 2:34:07.359 when I wraped that song, now I gotta change. 2:34:07.080 --> 2:34:12.800 The line that was wrong we had we had. You're 2:34:12.800 --> 2:34:13.680 glad that was wrong. 2:34:14.440 --> 2:34:15.360 I'm glad that was wrong. 2:34:15.360 --> 2:34:17.879 I'm glad that's wrong now and hopefully, you know, we'll 2:34:17.959 --> 2:34:19.560 be able to change that again this year. 2:34:19.720 --> 2:34:21.160 You know what I'm saying, because it's like a whole 2:34:21.160 --> 2:34:23.520 bunch of but I look at it, listen to rap 2:34:24.480 --> 2:34:26.280 Donald Trump was so cool back then. 2:34:28.040 --> 2:34:29.360 Trump It's like. 2:34:29.360 --> 2:34:31.800 Yo, do you ever do you ever listen to any 2:34:31.879 --> 2:34:34.840 of your old balls or punch size and just cringe. 2:34:34.600 --> 2:34:38.080 Yes all the time? Right, Yes, it's horrible, Yo, I 2:34:38.120 --> 2:34:39.000 was a horrible person. 2:34:39.120 --> 2:34:43.120 I heard something I said the other day and it 2:34:43.240 --> 2:34:46.040 was in a freestyle of something and I said, uh, 2:34:46.560 --> 2:34:49.560 I said, yeah, yeah, y'all rappers. All y'all rappers, my sons, 2:34:49.600 --> 2:34:52.560 get out the way. Disrespect popping. You're gonna get popped 2:34:52.560 --> 2:34:53.400 like Marvin Gay. 2:34:53.680 --> 2:34:57.320 And I was like, I was like, I can't believe 2:34:57.360 --> 2:35:00.560 I said that because it was the shock value, right, but. 2:35:00.840 --> 2:35:04.840 Because now you're the oh you get crazy? 2:35:05.080 --> 2:35:06.240 Yeah you know what I mean, Like I. 2:35:06.160 --> 2:35:09.400 Hear, I hear ball man the grandpa and you right now, yeah, 2:35:09.680 --> 2:35:12.680 you're like we talked last time and yo. 2:35:12.800 --> 2:35:15.440 My daughter was like, yo, what what are you doing? 2:35:15.520 --> 2:35:17.279 Don't you have class somewhere? 2:35:17.160 --> 2:35:17.880 Are you doing this? 2:35:17.959 --> 2:35:22.520 And I'm like, ah, this cringe worthy lines. Man, I'm 2:35:22.560 --> 2:35:27.440 not gonna lie this. I know one man is getting 2:35:27.440 --> 2:35:30.280 old or im old. 2:35:30.920 --> 2:35:34.160 I'm we old bro time and stuff to day. 2:35:35.320 --> 2:35:36.840 And they just thought, I don't want to say the 2:35:36.879 --> 2:35:38.240 girl's artist's name. 2:35:39.080 --> 2:35:41.800 And they just like and. 2:35:41.720 --> 2:35:46.039 I'm just listening like offended, I'm old. 2:35:47.440 --> 2:35:49.400 Did I thought about it? I was like, that's probably 2:35:49.400 --> 2:35:51.840 how they felt. What I'm talking about technics and shoot 2:35:51.879 --> 2:35:55.959 off the block. You were somewhere to you like you. 2:35:55.920 --> 2:35:58.080 Were somewhere saying now you like me getting head on 2:35:58.160 --> 2:36:03.200 the highway. It's like you hear it, you like, yo, 2:36:03.640 --> 2:36:04.840 She wasn't crashing it. 2:36:07.240 --> 2:36:09.760 I'm telling you, I couldn't fight it. 2:36:09.760 --> 2:36:14.320 It was the lyrics were so vulgar, and by the way, 2:36:14.600 --> 2:36:17.160 it was just like but I get it, I get it, 2:36:17.200 --> 2:36:20.320 I get I'm who my parents. I get that, I 2:36:20.360 --> 2:36:22.959 get that part like I get that. But I was 2:36:23.040 --> 2:36:26.440 just like, wow, this is what's happening now. And as 2:36:26.520 --> 2:36:27.640 I'm saying it, I'm like. 2:36:27.560 --> 2:36:31.400 You sound just like the old folks, like I. 2:36:31.360 --> 2:36:33.760 Cannot I cannot identify with some of the ship, like 2:36:33.959 --> 2:36:37.440 I cannot identify with drill music because I don't know. 2:36:37.400 --> 2:36:40.040 Like, but wait, but I don't think it's fair, and 2:36:40.080 --> 2:36:42.760 this is probably the old person in me. I don't 2:36:42.760 --> 2:36:46.640 think it's fair to say the similarities in that because 2:36:47.160 --> 2:36:52.200 people actually are killing themselves, raving about it, dancing on graves, 2:36:52.720 --> 2:36:55.440 social media all about it, like it's a very big. 2:36:57.560 --> 2:37:01.600 As the Chicks right now, Light No More No. 2:37:01.840 --> 2:37:04.320 And the crazy part is, I never think that any 2:37:04.440 --> 2:37:07.880 generation is going to like the music of the generation 2:37:08.040 --> 2:37:12.280 after it. But not liking it and disrespecting yourself as well, 2:37:12.320 --> 2:37:14.840 all that's that's literally a whole other level. But the 2:37:14.879 --> 2:37:17.600 only reason we had a connection was because we were 2:37:17.680 --> 2:37:21.880 sampling our parents' music. So when we said we would say, Yo, 2:37:21.959 --> 2:37:24.240 it's this new song, big Poppama, you gotta hear it, 2:37:24.320 --> 2:37:26.080 like the ain't nothing but the Izi brothers. Boy, I 2:37:26.080 --> 2:37:28.760 ain't doing nothing new. So we had that connection. What 2:37:29.040 --> 2:37:31.280 these kids got smarter. They're like, oh, I gotta get it. 2:37:31.320 --> 2:37:32.879 I gotta get round fifty. 2:37:32.640 --> 2:37:33.320 Percent of my shit. 2:37:33.320 --> 2:37:35.640 Hell now, hey, hey, whoop woop, make that beat on 2:37:35.680 --> 2:37:37.440 the on the thing from scratch. I don't give fuck, 2:37:37.520 --> 2:37:39.800 don't sample nothing. I want to own one hundred percent 2:37:39.840 --> 2:37:42.000 of this if it goes up and once a. 2:37:42.040 --> 2:37:45.160 Death stamp them my fart, let's make that right. 2:37:45.400 --> 2:37:49.520 So it's like they they they got business smarter from 2:37:49.520 --> 2:37:50.800 not from not taking. 2:37:50.920 --> 2:37:51.840 They absolutely did. 2:37:51.720 --> 2:37:54.280 You know what I'm saying, Like so because they still 2:37:54.280 --> 2:37:56.760 got paid before. But now they're like, nah, we're just 2:37:56.760 --> 2:37:58.600 gonna make this shit from scratch and we're gonna go up. 2:37:58.920 --> 2:38:01.080 And yeah, I don't I don't like it, but it 2:38:01.120 --> 2:38:02.879 ain't for me. Like I told you before. It's like 2:38:02.920 --> 2:38:05.440 it's like my son got the car. Now it's his car, 2:38:05.920 --> 2:38:08.240 go fuck it up, damn. 2:38:08.879 --> 2:38:11.959 But fucking it up could be very detrimental. It can't be. 2:38:12.440 --> 2:38:16.240 Don't kill yourself in it. Don't drink and dry. Don't 2:38:16.280 --> 2:38:19.840 drink it, just drink Champs. I got to loosen up 2:38:20.200 --> 2:38:26.320 on the new music because I was just like, sometimes 2:38:26.320 --> 2:38:29.800 sometimes I don't mind. I love the era of music 2:38:29.840 --> 2:38:31.920 that we came from. We listen, I tell my man, 2:38:32.000 --> 2:38:34.200 my man. My man said this to me, and he 2:38:34.320 --> 2:38:36.200 was like, yo, think about how far we came. Like 2:38:36.520 --> 2:38:39.360 if you were if you are a person that break 2:38:39.440 --> 2:38:43.520 danced on cardboard and you uploaded your song to the 2:38:43.600 --> 2:38:48.200 internet and you posted your picture on Instagram, look at 2:38:48.240 --> 2:38:54.720 what you lived through hip hop wise, that's a lot lucky, 2:38:54.800 --> 2:38:58.320 you know what I'm saying. Like we we see at 2:38:58.440 --> 2:39:01.800 nine eleven in between now carry a boombox, yeah, oh 2:39:02.040 --> 2:39:08.760 yeah yeah, and its ye. We saw the m P 2:39:08.959 --> 2:39:11.640 three players, like we've seen a lot in our dad. 2:39:12.080 --> 2:39:13.879 So we just gotta be thankful that we had it 2:39:13.920 --> 2:39:15.879 when we had it. Now it's this and now we 2:39:15.959 --> 2:39:19.600 get why the older people say, well I love my era, yes, 2:39:19.680 --> 2:39:23.520 because they're like, well, this is my ever in my day. 2:39:23.760 --> 2:39:25.280 I never thought I was gonna do that. 2:39:25.440 --> 2:39:30.240 Listen, bro, I've said to myself and and my man 2:39:30.280 --> 2:39:30.879 said it to me. 2:39:30.959 --> 2:39:34.000 He was like, he said, when you start talking about. 2:39:33.720 --> 2:39:38.440 These stories, when you are older, you gonna sound crazy 2:39:38.480 --> 2:39:42.200 as fucking Forrest Gump, he said, because it don't even 2:39:42.280 --> 2:39:43.119 sound real. 2:39:43.720 --> 2:39:46.360 And I was like, I can't imagine talking to. 2:39:46.280 --> 2:39:49.720 My grandson and saying, yeah, you know, I used to 2:39:49.720 --> 2:39:52.480 put out a song every year and people used to 2:39:52.480 --> 2:39:55.600 wait for that one song every year. Yeah, shut up, 2:39:55.600 --> 2:39:58.080 grandpa be lying now. And one time I did a 2:39:58.120 --> 2:40:01.160 song for I wrote a whole piece for and they 2:40:01.160 --> 2:40:02.800 put it in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame 2:40:02.879 --> 2:40:04.080 for a rapping Ain't jay Z. 2:40:04.400 --> 2:40:05.160 Shut the fuck up? 2:40:05.200 --> 2:40:07.640 You said? 2:40:07.760 --> 2:40:07.960 Nah? 2:40:07.959 --> 2:40:09.440 I did I And they put me. 2:40:09.400 --> 2:40:11.520 On BT one time and I just did a whole 2:40:11.520 --> 2:40:13.200 piece about the whole thing of hip hop. 2:40:13.480 --> 2:40:14.400 Know the fuck yo? 2:40:14.560 --> 2:40:18.120 Stop lying, granddaddy, like that don't even sound It doesn't 2:40:18.160 --> 2:40:19.000 sound real. 2:40:19.560 --> 2:40:19.760 Yeah. 2:40:19.760 --> 2:40:21.840 And then I got into a beef with with Shack 2:40:21.959 --> 2:40:25.400 and I was beefing with these that it doesn't sound real. 2:40:25.480 --> 2:40:28.320 We've seen a lot of ship, bro a lot of 2:40:28.360 --> 2:40:29.960 ship We covered a lot of ground. 2:40:30.920 --> 2:40:33.720 Let me tell you two things that my kids say 2:40:33.760 --> 2:40:35.440 to me. One I'm not proud of. One I am 2:40:35.480 --> 2:40:39.879 proud of. We walk in the in the grocery store 2:40:39.879 --> 2:40:42.680 and we walked past the beer and liquor and my 2:40:42.760 --> 2:40:44.080 son says, daddy's work. 2:40:46.120 --> 2:40:48.680 Not proud of that, not proud of that. I could 2:40:48.680 --> 2:40:52.360 have kept that. No, no, but it's real. It's real, real. 2:40:52.959 --> 2:40:56.280 Then, but every time he sees a boombox or vinyl 2:40:56.640 --> 2:40:58.360 or breakdance, daddy's work. 2:40:58.800 --> 2:41:02.480 Daddy's work. That problem. That's dope. 2:41:02.560 --> 2:41:10.279 Okay, she said, So don't do half of that's work, please. 2:41:12.720 --> 2:41:14.400 Smokes. Now. 2:41:14.440 --> 2:41:19.600 One of the craziest dopest records ever made ever slept 2:41:19.640 --> 2:41:22.760 on is Extra Abstract Skills. 2:41:23.520 --> 2:41:25.320 Yes, that is that record. 2:41:25.080 --> 2:41:28.560 Is so so dope, and I listened to it recently 2:41:29.040 --> 2:41:35.039 and I'm just like this, I wish like that. That's 2:41:35.080 --> 2:41:37.520 one of the phenomenal records. Like, what was you thinking 2:41:37.600 --> 2:41:38.320 coming up with that? 2:41:38.920 --> 2:41:41.760 I had. I wanted to get beats from Large Professor 2:41:42.280 --> 2:41:44.599 to me and Reef we would go out the flushing. 2:41:44.280 --> 2:41:46.040 And you got to the hook as well, right, yeah, yeah, 2:41:46.040 --> 2:41:46.520 we would go. 2:41:46.480 --> 2:41:50.200 Out the Flushing and I wanted to have Large Offessor 2:41:50.240 --> 2:41:52.120 on the record. He already did a song called that 2:41:52.200 --> 2:41:55.800 we had called Skills in ninety five, but I fucked 2:41:55.879 --> 2:42:01.160 up because on the Tribe album, Uh, Large Professor had 2:42:01.200 --> 2:42:03.800 told Q Tip never say the year in the song 2:42:03.840 --> 2:42:08.720 because you date the song right, so I needed another song. 2:42:08.879 --> 2:42:10.600 I want a Q tip on the album. He was 2:42:10.600 --> 2:42:14.960 coming back and forth to the studio and Paul shout, shout, 2:42:14.959 --> 2:42:19.120 Paul large pro he I would spend so much money 2:42:19.120 --> 2:42:21.400 with him because he would just buy records and then 2:42:21.520 --> 2:42:23.280 just come to the studio and listen to him. 2:42:23.760 --> 2:42:26.040 He wouldn't have to beat loaded up in that spat. 2:42:26.480 --> 2:42:28.720 He would just come to the studio and sit down 2:42:28.800 --> 2:42:30.720 and make you listen. 2:42:30.480 --> 2:42:32.039 To all of and you had to pay for what 2:42:32.080 --> 2:42:32.760 that studio time. 2:42:32.840 --> 2:42:37.959 And we in there unique, we was in was in 2:42:38.000 --> 2:42:39.080 the city, in the city. 2:42:39.120 --> 2:42:40.039 So he's sitting there. 2:42:40.000 --> 2:42:42.959 Put the record on just and you just keep hearing 2:42:42.959 --> 2:42:45.120 the needles skipping through joints. 2:42:44.879 --> 2:42:45.760 And I can't. I can't. 2:42:45.959 --> 2:42:47.760 I can't tell his nigga how to make a beat. 2:42:48.280 --> 2:42:50.640 So I'm like, you said, you never working with promo, No, no, 2:42:51.720 --> 2:42:54.120 just sitting there, just sitting there, boom boom boom. And 2:42:54.160 --> 2:42:56.280 then you hear a little something and he'll loop it 2:42:56.360 --> 2:42:59.080 up his doors and I'm like, damn, that's kind of funky. 2:42:59.080 --> 2:43:01.000 That might be dope. He'll race it. 2:43:01.680 --> 2:43:03.240 I'm like, yo, Paul, you race that. 2:43:04.320 --> 2:43:08.440 Yeah, nah nah. So that wasn't it worth the mother son. Word, Yo, 2:43:08.480 --> 2:43:11.000 you're gonna like this next one? Baby, Paul wor it up. 2:43:12.480 --> 2:43:15.800 He's just talking and so I'm in there like, yo, 2:43:15.840 --> 2:43:19.680 we've been to get six al of them should already 2:43:19.760 --> 2:43:23.800 fifteen hundred dollars. And he like, yo, word yo some 2:43:24.000 --> 2:43:24.880 mad humphy son. 2:43:25.600 --> 2:43:27.920 Yo. Yo. We don't order yo, we order it. 2:43:28.360 --> 2:43:28.520 Yo? 2:43:28.560 --> 2:43:30.760 What we doing? 2:43:31.080 --> 2:43:33.039 Engineer like, yeah, I might give me a I might 2:43:33.080 --> 2:43:35.080 get a plate new song. So yeah, worry, let's order 2:43:35.080 --> 2:43:39.000 from there. Word the mother son. And I'm like, make 2:43:39.080 --> 2:43:39.920 this fucking beat. 2:43:40.040 --> 2:43:40.080 No. 2:43:40.600 --> 2:43:42.000 So he finally gets me a beat. 2:43:42.400 --> 2:43:44.959 Say this is the South talking to the North. Yeah. 2:43:45.000 --> 2:43:45.960 I finally get to beat. 2:43:46.080 --> 2:43:48.440 He likes it, and I tell Q Tip I said, yo, 2:43:48.560 --> 2:43:50.960 Paul got this this crazy joint. He's like where it 2:43:51.040 --> 2:43:51.520 is like that. 2:43:51.920 --> 2:43:53.240 I was like, yo, it's crazy. 2:43:53.560 --> 2:43:55.600 He's like, I gotta get yo, I gotta here. I 2:43:55.600 --> 2:43:56.520 gotta hear that Joey. 2:43:56.879 --> 2:43:59.600 So I played for him, like for whord this is 2:43:59.680 --> 2:44:02.120 crazy and I'm like, you want how born? 2:44:02.160 --> 2:44:04.320 And he was like I got some and he come by. 2:44:04.360 --> 2:44:04.720 He take it. 2:44:04.760 --> 2:44:06.199 He takes time, but he come by the studio. 2:44:06.440 --> 2:44:07.920 So I'm sitting there and I'm like, yo, I got 2:44:07.920 --> 2:44:11.240 a song with a large professor and cutes it on 2:44:11.360 --> 2:44:13.360 my album. You know what I'm saying, Like, I'm like, 2:44:13.840 --> 2:44:15.400 in my monm, I'm like, yo, I'm. 2:44:15.280 --> 2:44:17.440 Out of here, this is gone. 2:44:17.560 --> 2:44:19.199 This is this hip hop's finest. 2:44:19.879 --> 2:44:22.680 So we do this, we do the song. 2:44:22.720 --> 2:44:27.000 It current turns out dope, and I just I still 2:44:27.160 --> 2:44:29.840 bug out of the fact that I think sometimes I 2:44:29.879 --> 2:44:31.680 just take it for granted, like yeah, yeah, I did that, 2:44:31.720 --> 2:44:33.039 But I'm like, yeah, that that's. 2:44:32.879 --> 2:44:33.680 One of the ones. 2:44:33.760 --> 2:44:35.600 You know what I'm saying, Like it was a good record, 2:44:36.200 --> 2:44:39.000 And I still I still thank Paul to this day 2:44:39.040 --> 2:44:41.760 because that time that it took for him to find 2:44:41.760 --> 2:44:44.840 that loop and put them drums on, get it right 2:44:44.879 --> 2:44:45.800 and made it a classic. 2:44:45.879 --> 2:44:48.360 So and do you not think that those records in 2:44:48.400 --> 2:44:51.120 that record, the whole album went as far as you 2:44:51.160 --> 2:44:51.960 thought it was gonna go. 2:44:54.200 --> 2:44:57.120 When they asked me what I wanted to accomplish with 2:44:57.200 --> 2:45:00.160 that album, I said, I want to I. 2:45:00.080 --> 2:45:01.640 Want people to know my name and I want them 2:45:01.680 --> 2:45:02.720 to know where I'm from. 2:45:03.120 --> 2:45:05.000 If I was thinking smart, I would have said I 2:45:05.080 --> 2:45:07.959 want to sell more than thriller, and then they would 2:45:07.959 --> 2:45:10.039 have known my name and where I was from. Regardless 2:45:10.800 --> 2:45:13.880 but I look back at some of this stuff I did, 2:45:14.959 --> 2:45:17.800 and it's hard for me to process that I did it. 2:45:18.000 --> 2:45:20.240 Like you might catch me on a humble day, like 2:45:20.920 --> 2:45:23.279 for the most part, I'm super humble and like I'm 2:45:23.360 --> 2:45:26.040 usually humble when I'm not rapping, you know what I'm saying. 2:45:26.280 --> 2:45:28.959 I just found just through pytherapy. I just found out 2:45:29.800 --> 2:45:32.800 in the last years some change that I got impost syndrome. 2:45:34.040 --> 2:45:38.560 It's like when when a person refuses to accept their 2:45:38.600 --> 2:45:42.400 flowers or all of them, you know what I'm saying. Like, 2:45:42.800 --> 2:45:45.720 so for me, I'm very I don't. 2:45:46.240 --> 2:45:46.560 I don't. 2:45:47.000 --> 2:45:49.680 I try to, you know what I mean, But I 2:45:49.720 --> 2:45:51.359 can't change people's memories. 2:45:51.400 --> 2:45:54.320 Like people come up to me, people perceive me right 2:45:54.360 --> 2:45:54.800 because I. 2:45:54.760 --> 2:45:55.440 Never I never. 2:45:55.600 --> 2:45:57.520 I never want to walk around like I got a 2:45:57.520 --> 2:46:00.000 big head, like like life humble me early I felt 2:46:00.200 --> 2:46:03.440 like so. But for me, it's it's like people in 2:46:03.440 --> 2:46:06.160 my life now like no, no, you have to accept 2:46:06.160 --> 2:46:08.360 that you have done some amazing things and. 2:46:08.320 --> 2:46:11.400 It's okay to say that you've. 2:46:11.200 --> 2:46:12.520 Done it, like you know what I mean. 2:46:12.640 --> 2:46:14.440 Like I get people coming to me like yo, my 2:46:14.480 --> 2:46:16.880 first hip hop show was you Man Use. The first 2:46:16.879 --> 2:46:18.640 thing that I saw from the hood on Rap City. Bro, 2:46:18.720 --> 2:46:20.120 when I saw you, I knew I could make it, 2:46:20.120 --> 2:46:23.000 and dah da da da, and I'd be like, like, 2:46:23.480 --> 2:46:25.800 you know what I mean, I don't want to don't 2:46:25.840 --> 2:46:28.000 put me up there because because the ain't nowhere to 2:46:28.000 --> 2:46:29.120 go but down from there. 2:46:29.520 --> 2:46:31.560 So for me, it's a weird place to be in. 2:46:31.600 --> 2:46:34.039 And sometimes I talk my ship, Like earlier today, I 2:46:34.040 --> 2:46:36.039 was like, yeah, nigga, I put a whole state on 2:46:36.160 --> 2:46:36.880 by myself. 2:46:37.320 --> 2:46:37.800 You know what I'm saying. 2:46:37.800 --> 2:46:40.560 That's a fact. That's not I'm not bragging, that's just 2:46:40.600 --> 2:46:42.440 what I did, you know what I mean. 2:46:42.480 --> 2:46:47.480 So I teeter from from from that point. 2:46:47.320 --> 2:46:50.120 Which is every artist is going to teeter on that. Yeah, 2:46:50.360 --> 2:46:52.080 I think. So you don't everything. 2:46:52.120 --> 2:46:53.640 I want to get too big head, because the thing 2:46:53.680 --> 2:46:56.320 is that ego is what is driving that. 2:46:56.600 --> 2:46:59.439 Yes, And what I believe is that ego. 2:46:59.360 --> 2:47:02.720 Is necessary artistry yeah, and creativity. 2:47:02.840 --> 2:47:03.080 Yeah. 2:47:03.160 --> 2:47:06.160 You cannot be creative without ego, right, because the ego 2:47:06.240 --> 2:47:08.000 is what gives you the confidence to say I'm going 2:47:08.040 --> 2:47:09.800 to create this and then give it to the world, right, 2:47:09.959 --> 2:47:11.920 And once you put it in the world, once you 2:47:11.959 --> 2:47:14.039 put it out there, it's the public's perception. 2:47:14.680 --> 2:47:17.040 You can't once you can't. You can't take it back 2:47:17.080 --> 2:47:19.720 once it's out there. Yeah, so somebody say, yo, man, 2:47:19.720 --> 2:47:22.440 that ship was trash. You just gotta eat it right. 2:47:22.720 --> 2:47:23.760 You can't get back. 2:47:23.800 --> 2:47:24.840 You know what I'm saying, You can't. 2:47:25.040 --> 2:47:26.960 And it's like like when Ratman was on here, he 2:47:27.000 --> 2:47:29.959 was like, I read all all the messages, bro, read 2:47:30.040 --> 2:47:31.920 them all, Like I can't, you know what I'm saying. 2:47:32.160 --> 2:47:34.200 I remember talking to Charlotte Man. I remember telling h 2:47:34.440 --> 2:47:35.840 I was like, I don't know how to fuck. I 2:47:35.879 --> 2:47:37.440 don't know how to fuck. You even look at your 2:47:37.480 --> 2:47:40.400 social media and Charloamann was like, skills, I don't. 2:47:40.440 --> 2:47:41.680 I don't read my comments. 2:47:42.080 --> 2:47:43.720 Like what you mean? He said, I haven't read my 2:47:43.760 --> 2:47:46.840 comments in like five years, Bro, I don't read comments. 2:47:47.080 --> 2:47:49.119 He's you know, when you open Instagram and you see 2:47:49.160 --> 2:47:50.520 the one that's at the top and in the one 2:47:50.560 --> 2:47:53.200 that's at the bottle, he's, I see those, but I 2:47:53.200 --> 2:47:54.400 don't open my comments. 2:47:54.400 --> 2:47:55.600 And I was like, damn. 2:47:55.800 --> 2:47:57.640 I was like, you would have to not do that 2:47:57.680 --> 2:48:01.320 in order to live in that space. Because you talk 2:48:01.440 --> 2:48:05.600 every day and you people giving you their opinion every day. 2:48:06.160 --> 2:48:08.960 Sometimes it's like he's like, I don't read that ship. 2:48:09.000 --> 2:48:10.560 I'm like, Damn, that's a good tactic. 2:48:10.640 --> 2:48:13.840 You shouldn't. You shouldn't read them. You shouldn't. If there's 2:48:13.840 --> 2:48:19.000 something you could do over, what would you do over? Mmm? 2:48:19.160 --> 2:48:20.400 I don't know if I do. I don't know if 2:48:20.400 --> 2:48:22.680 I would do anything. Oh, I think I would do 2:48:22.720 --> 2:48:24.520 it just the way I did it. If I could, 2:48:24.879 --> 2:48:32.640 I probably would started taking writing seriously earlier, just writing. 2:48:32.320 --> 2:48:34.400 Songs period before missing pulled. 2:48:34.200 --> 2:48:36.680 Up and the skill of you being able to write. Yes, 2:48:36.959 --> 2:48:38.560 you know what I'm saying, Like, I probably would have 2:48:38.600 --> 2:48:41.039 did that. What about you? 2:48:42.000 --> 2:48:44.480 If I could do over? If you could do something over, I. 2:48:44.440 --> 2:48:46.080 Would try to sell out much faster. 2:48:46.800 --> 2:48:50.840 Wow, Jesus Christmas, what about you? 2:48:52.080 --> 2:48:54.600 I would have started trying to do everything I was 2:48:54.640 --> 2:48:56.039 doing today. 2:48:56.560 --> 2:48:57.720 Earlier in high school. 2:48:57.720 --> 2:48:59.880 Like I started at the end of my senior year, 2:49:00.760 --> 2:49:02.400 and I felt like I had an advantage then. 2:49:02.600 --> 2:49:04.040 But I would have even started earlier. 2:49:04.400 --> 2:49:07.800 Yeah, but let me let me let me pederate my answer, 2:49:07.920 --> 2:49:10.440 because I do mean that, but I mean it in 2:49:10.480 --> 2:49:13.039 this way. I wish I would have knew that this 2:49:13.240 --> 2:49:17.040 was not love, this was or more about business, like 2:49:17.120 --> 2:49:18.800 you know what I mean? I was like like like 2:49:19.240 --> 2:49:23.720 until I met pun I was all my features love 2:49:23.840 --> 2:49:26.320 for free. I didn't I didn't know people were talking 2:49:26.400 --> 2:49:33.040 people like and I was like, hey, my dad man, 2:49:33.280 --> 2:49:36.120 especially when you had that's fifteen grand And I remember 2:49:36.160 --> 2:49:38.200 me and pun of me. She was just and even 2:49:38.280 --> 2:49:40.560 then I was doing it getting bread, but it was 2:49:40.560 --> 2:49:44.000 still love like I was still I remember, I say 2:49:44.040 --> 2:49:47.880 this real quick. I showed up to a video and 2:49:47.920 --> 2:49:53.160 it was my video and I got paid and this 2:49:53.320 --> 2:49:55.720 was cool. Ray Kwan got paid and then showed up 2:49:55.760 --> 2:49:57.520 to the video and then Ray Kwan one of another 2:49:57.560 --> 2:50:01.480 paper for the video and and I remember her label 2:50:01.600 --> 2:50:04.440 like oh ship man like Ray Kwana is a bad person. 2:50:04.680 --> 2:50:07.480 They're like nor is a good person? Like so cool cool. 2:50:07.640 --> 2:50:10.680 Ray Kwang got paid. And when it came back time 2:50:10.879 --> 2:50:12.920 for Maya to do my record, guess. 2:50:12.720 --> 2:50:14.000 What she was with? 2:50:14.160 --> 2:50:23.000 Common was together, but I remember it was a guy 2:50:23.080 --> 2:50:28.840 named Hakeem Islam or Hawk Islam Islam that was in 2:50:28.959 --> 2:50:32.080 charge of her project. And I came to him and 2:50:32.120 --> 2:50:34.360 this is the guy who thanked me for for being 2:50:34.400 --> 2:50:37.039 on time at the video but showing up for wearing 2:50:37.080 --> 2:50:39.039 the clothes that they asked Ray We're none of the. 2:50:39.040 --> 2:50:41.560 Clothes that day asked for. I did all that I did. 2:50:41.640 --> 2:50:43.840 I was under the sparks, sparkles, I did all the 2:50:43.920 --> 2:50:45.879 dump ship that I wasn't supposed to do as an 2:50:45.959 --> 2:50:48.599 established artist when I was trying to form a relationship. 2:50:48.800 --> 2:50:51.320 And so anyway, when it came time, we went to 2:50:51.320 --> 2:50:52.880 see him and he was like, yeah, we're not going 2:50:52.920 --> 2:50:53.760 to go in this direction. 2:50:54.000 --> 2:50:56.840 And I was just like, oh, okay, that's what we're doing. 2:50:56.879 --> 2:50:59.720 I was like, okay, okay, wait to tell Maya his face, 2:50:59.720 --> 2:51:02.199 because I almost guarantee you she doesn't notice. 2:51:02.440 --> 2:51:06.360 Right. She says she's down to be on here, take 2:51:06.440 --> 2:51:10.440 vegan shots whatever she comes liquor with her. Let's look 2:51:10.520 --> 2:51:14.600 up the execution. This okay rock Raider. 2:51:16.240 --> 2:51:18.760 He scratched on my first album. 2:51:18.920 --> 2:51:20.080 He was on this album, he. 2:51:20.040 --> 2:51:22.960 Was on He's on All in It, and he's cutting 2:51:23.000 --> 2:51:23.800 on another record. 2:51:24.520 --> 2:51:26.519 And that's when I knew. 2:51:28.040 --> 2:51:33.520 When somebody is so good, it's hard for them to 2:51:33.640 --> 2:51:35.000 do something very simple. 2:51:35.280 --> 2:51:35.920 Mm hm. 2:51:35.959 --> 2:51:38.640 So imagine telling Steph, y'all just want you to just 2:51:38.680 --> 2:51:39.800 lay the ball up right here. 2:51:40.120 --> 2:51:42.840 Carry Yeah. I love how you call everybody the first name. 2:51:43.600 --> 2:51:45.640 He goes crazy with the names, like. 2:51:47.320 --> 2:51:51.199 Yeah, yeah, I shoot from way, I shoot from outside 2:51:51.280 --> 2:51:51.600 the gym. 2:51:51.600 --> 2:51:53.360 You're like, yeah, but just I just want you to 2:51:53.440 --> 2:51:54.879 lay it up. That's all you want. 2:51:55.600 --> 2:51:58.000 So I had Rock Raided in the studio and I'm 2:51:58.000 --> 2:51:59.720 telling him to do I'll say, He's like, how you 2:51:59.720 --> 2:52:00.480 want to scratched us? 2:52:00.600 --> 2:52:03.520 I wanted to liked. 2:52:03.840 --> 2:52:06.600 He like, that's ridiculous, and I'm like, yeah. 2:52:06.600 --> 2:52:09.600 Just god, cop God, you. 2:52:09.480 --> 2:52:12.080 Could have done that yourself. I wasn't, but you know, 2:52:12.400 --> 2:52:13.960 Rock Raider, you know what I'm saying. I want him 2:52:14.000 --> 2:52:16.800 on a joint. So the tape run and they're like, 2:52:16.920 --> 2:52:24.800 I won, dude, and I'm like, no, that's not it, 2:52:24.879 --> 2:52:29.280 and he like, I thought you wanted God, and I'm like. 2:52:29.640 --> 2:52:31.360 That's what I want you to do. He like, that's it. 2:52:32.200 --> 2:52:35.160 You might run it back three times over God, this God. 2:52:37.000 --> 2:52:40.720 And in my mind, I'm going, he's so good he 2:52:40.840 --> 2:52:45.120 can't Dodd. I'm like, yo, you you gotta called one 2:52:45.160 --> 2:52:48.720 of your homies in here. Because he ended up doing it, 2:52:48.760 --> 2:52:51.400 but it took so long because and in my mind, 2:52:51.440 --> 2:52:53.039 I'm like, why you just can't do the Sumple ship 2:52:53.280 --> 2:52:54.880 and he like, that's what I do when I was ten. 2:52:55.360 --> 2:52:58.600 But to his defense, yeah, to his defense, he was 2:52:58.600 --> 2:53:01.640 so advanced. He saw and you're asking him dumb himself down. 2:53:01.920 --> 2:53:04.680 That represents him too, right, right, So when I when 2:53:04.720 --> 2:53:06.440 I hopped on the song with the executions, they was 2:53:06.480 --> 2:53:09.680 on loud and he reached back out and he asked him, 2:53:09.680 --> 2:53:11.600 He's like, your skills you working on the execution the album? 2:53:11.800 --> 2:53:13.279 Can I get a verse? I was like, of course, 2:53:13.640 --> 2:53:15.640 And the first thing that popped he tell you I want? 2:53:16.360 --> 2:53:17.800 He was like, yo, dude, you and the first thing 2:53:17.840 --> 2:53:19.240 I popped on mouth like yo, I should come in 2:53:19.280 --> 2:53:21.560 this jong and wrap like boning on the ship. I 2:53:21.560 --> 2:53:22.240 should come in here. 2:53:22.120 --> 2:53:22.840 And right like bone. 2:53:22.840 --> 2:53:23.080 Thus. 2:53:23.120 --> 2:53:25.120 I know they want some hip hop spinish ship, but 2:53:25.160 --> 2:53:27.920 I should come in here and fucking do triple syllables 2:53:27.920 --> 2:53:30.920 and ship because because you know what I mean I want. 2:53:31.000 --> 2:53:33.400 It was just like an inside joke with him. But yeah, 2:53:33.440 --> 2:53:37.879 the execution is man's like for the dopest DJs, but ever. 2:53:37.840 --> 2:53:40.800 Sing in my life. They changed the game, them and 2:53:40.879 --> 2:53:42.960 the beat junkies. You know what I'm saying. Everybody and 2:53:43.000 --> 2:53:45.000 the allies from Miami the same way. 2:53:45.040 --> 2:53:49.360 You have a story about Common, right, and could you 2:53:49.480 --> 2:53:51.880 not I don't know if you're on Common sat down 2:53:51.879 --> 2:53:53.160 and spoke about it recently. 2:53:53.280 --> 2:53:53.840 No, we haven't. 2:53:54.080 --> 2:53:57.520 Yeah, I love them, but I held the grudge phone. 2:53:57.840 --> 2:54:00.200 But this is what I'm trying to say is Commember 2:54:00.280 --> 2:54:02.840 probably sit down and be like his mind was so 2:54:05.560 --> 2:54:08.600 he probably won't even remember that, right. Is there anybody 2:54:08.760 --> 2:54:12.920 in this world that has a story about you like that? 2:54:14.320 --> 2:54:15.519 Man? You just somebody? 2:54:15.720 --> 2:54:19.760 Yeah, every one of us, just one person by mistake, accident. 2:54:20.000 --> 2:54:22.240 Here's the thing I take it. So I remember one. 2:54:22.400 --> 2:54:25.600 I remember one girl telling me. She was like, yeah, 2:54:25.600 --> 2:54:27.400 you don't even remember me. I gave I gave you, 2:54:27.440 --> 2:54:29.200 I spit some balls and you told me I just 2:54:29.200 --> 2:54:32.200 need to stop rapping. And I was like, but that's 2:54:32.240 --> 2:54:34.560 kind of sound like a little bit say that. 2:54:35.879 --> 2:54:39.480 I would never say that to a person. It's another dude. 2:54:39.640 --> 2:54:41.199 This guy said that guy. 2:54:41.480 --> 2:54:44.560 There's another dude. There was another dude. It was on Instagram, 2:54:48.160 --> 2:54:50.440 so he says, he says it was I think I 2:54:50.520 --> 2:54:52.520 might have posted somebody. It was big birthday and I 2:54:52.520 --> 2:54:54.480 put up the big story. But when he said, damn, 2:54:54.480 --> 2:54:56.760 do your tims leaning and he said, yeah, I remember 2:54:56.840 --> 2:54:59.800 being backstage at a club in Norfolk and you was 2:55:00.200 --> 2:55:03.120 behind Julir mafia and the story sounded like right, I 2:55:03.120 --> 2:55:04.600 was like, oh, you ain't fighting in the hood. I 2:55:04.600 --> 2:55:08.040 was probably rolling with them with money, alling them like yeah, 2:55:08.040 --> 2:55:09.560 you got to the back door and they closed the 2:55:09.560 --> 2:55:11.360 back door and they ain't let you in and you 2:55:11.360 --> 2:55:13.640 were standing back some about the mad skills. 2:55:14.000 --> 2:55:16.119 I was like, I would never. 2:55:16.040 --> 2:55:18.280 Say no shit like that, like you had me up 2:55:18.320 --> 2:55:21.600 until the end. No you said that shit. You said 2:55:21.600 --> 2:55:24.720 that shit, gee, And I was like, I don't remember 2:55:24.800 --> 2:55:27.600 saying that. Bro, Like so like, how you something with Rapp? 2:55:27.640 --> 2:55:29.240 And he was like, Yo, why is it always the 2:55:29.320 --> 2:55:32.760 negative comment and we always run to It could be 2:55:32.760 --> 2:55:35.800 one hundred people telling you great, your dangy change my life, 2:55:35.920 --> 2:55:38.240 and it's that one. But it's like we have to 2:55:38.360 --> 2:55:42.920 overcome that negativity because this is what I realized about 2:55:43.000 --> 2:55:48.680 social media. These motherfuckers. They don't care if they wrong 2:55:48.800 --> 2:55:53.280 or they right. They just want to get attention. I 2:55:53.360 --> 2:55:56.280 don't have that bone in my body because I'm like, 2:55:56.360 --> 2:55:59.879 I'm still really outside, So I can't go on my 2:56:00.120 --> 2:56:03.400 podcasts and just say yo, she trash her whole song trash. 2:56:03.520 --> 2:56:05.800 If I ever saw her, yo, I probably just mush 2:56:05.840 --> 2:56:06.320 in her face. 2:56:06.360 --> 2:56:07.039 She trash. 2:56:07.320 --> 2:56:09.640 Because I might be somewhere DJing and the nigga might 2:56:09.680 --> 2:56:11.440 come and say Yo, what you say about my niece. 2:56:11.840 --> 2:56:14.440 You can't Joe button niggas. You're saying, I. 2:56:14.360 --> 2:56:16.240 Can't do that, you know what I'm saying. So because 2:56:16.280 --> 2:56:19.280 I'm like, I'm still really outside. So for me, it's 2:56:19.360 --> 2:56:22.600 like I realized that they not they don't want to 2:56:22.640 --> 2:56:24.600 be right or they don't want to be wrong. They 2:56:24.680 --> 2:56:28.360 just want to get attention so that it's put there 2:56:28.800 --> 2:56:31.720 to get a reaction. So people get online and say 2:56:31.760 --> 2:56:33.160 the most outland of ship. 2:56:33.560 --> 2:56:35.160 Just because they go, Yo, look I got this. 2:56:35.480 --> 2:56:37.680 I got like eighty I got eighty thousand likes off 2:56:37.760 --> 2:56:42.520 it's crazy ass coming like, but sometimes people remember, sometimes 2:56:42.560 --> 2:56:43.720 it's started to be butts. 2:56:44.160 --> 2:56:45.080 This is crazy shit. 2:56:45.120 --> 2:56:48.720 This is the reason why I when I post, I post, 2:56:48.760 --> 2:56:50.600 and I basically get the fuck out of the gotcha, 2:56:51.040 --> 2:56:54.039 I get out of there. You drop on tweets, I drive, 2:56:54.120 --> 2:56:57.400 I do drop like I do draw tweets. 2:56:57.440 --> 2:56:57.920 For sure. 2:56:58.480 --> 2:57:00.400 I might stay on the ground for a little because 2:57:00.440 --> 2:57:01.680 it's something that my cleaning. 2:57:01.480 --> 2:57:07.320 Lady taught me. You're clearly, let's hear this something that 2:57:07.400 --> 2:57:12.800 she taught me. For years, I would's roaches and then 2:57:12.840 --> 2:57:15.760 this I'm gonna be back later blunts. Right, this is 2:57:15.760 --> 2:57:20.080 all related like a bigger you say, I come back 2:57:20.120 --> 2:57:20.560 to you later. 2:57:21.760 --> 2:57:24.360 But for years she would come into my astray and 2:57:24.440 --> 2:57:27.000 if if it's these bunchs that you come back to later, 2:57:27.560 --> 2:57:29.080 she would throw them, sister fuck away. 2:57:29.120 --> 2:57:31.120 She's a good clean And then I would be like, yo, 2:57:31.760 --> 2:57:32.800 you can't tell. 2:57:33.520 --> 2:57:35.720 And then I started to think about it, and it's like, 2:57:35.840 --> 2:57:38.920 how could she tell? This is good blunts? Is two 2:57:39.000 --> 2:57:42.800 or three good blunts and a world full of fucking track, 2:57:43.600 --> 2:57:45.160 She's supposed to throw the ship out. 2:57:45.959 --> 2:57:47.520 That's what I feel about social media. 2:57:47.560 --> 2:57:49.760 It's like, even though I might be the good blunt, 2:57:50.240 --> 2:57:54.000 I'm standing in the fucking food full of astrays. 2:57:54.000 --> 2:57:55.359 So that's so profound. 2:57:56.600 --> 2:58:02.280 Pound I clean, like like like I swear to God 2:58:02.320 --> 2:58:06.960 because I'm like, yo, because I swear, I'm gonna embarrass myself. 2:58:06.959 --> 2:58:11.360 I'm keeping there with y'all. I've been smoking hash much lately, 2:58:11.840 --> 2:58:13.600 and I've been smoking diamonds. 2:58:13.640 --> 2:58:17.120 You know, it is bad expensive. So when I put 2:58:17.120 --> 2:58:20.400 this ship out, is she doing the way I went in? 2:58:20.800 --> 2:58:25.520 The garbage? It's the brand new you know. 2:58:25.560 --> 2:58:28.760 She had just took out the bag, but literally just 2:58:28.840 --> 2:58:30.680 that garbage. And I went in and I picked the 2:58:30.720 --> 2:58:33.120 two or three that was good out, And then I 2:58:33.200 --> 2:58:34.240 looked at my wife is. 2:58:34.200 --> 2:58:36.440 Looking at me, and she's like, why you're digging in 2:58:36.440 --> 2:58:39.840 the She's like, you look like George from Seinfeld, Like 2:58:39.920 --> 2:58:42.040 what are you doing in the fucking garbage? 2:58:42.040 --> 2:58:45.160 And I'm like, I can't even explain, like these months 2:58:45.320 --> 2:58:45.720 are like a. 2:58:45.800 --> 2:58:48.880 Hundred dollars and that, and I'm looking at it. 2:58:48.879 --> 2:58:50.560 I'm like, not gonna make sense, and I'm like and 2:58:50.640 --> 2:58:52.879 then I'm saying, yo, but that's the cleaning, like like 2:58:52.920 --> 2:58:55.800 she shouldn't have she should have known she's and look, 2:58:55.840 --> 2:58:58.440 and I'm like, how can she knows what's good and 2:58:58.440 --> 2:59:01.160 what's bad? It's all it's in a That's that's how 2:59:01.160 --> 2:59:03.520 I feel about social media. It's like, how could you 2:59:03.560 --> 2:59:05.800 find out who the fuck is the good of? It's 2:59:05.879 --> 2:59:08.680 all in the fucking bad, full of fucking as that 2:59:08.920 --> 2:59:09.920 should be dumped out. 2:59:10.240 --> 2:59:12.440 But it's also true. 2:59:15.160 --> 2:59:18.119 Also a too that we got to use because it's 2:59:18.840 --> 2:59:21.040 you can't the one thing we can't change and run 2:59:21.080 --> 2:59:22.120 from his technology. 2:59:22.200 --> 2:59:23.280 So I love the. 2:59:23.240 --> 2:59:27.360 Fact that you could have an idea today and sell 2:59:27.400 --> 2:59:30.960 it to everybody to fuck with you tomorrow. You could say, yo, y'all, y'all, 2:59:31.040 --> 2:59:32.840 y'all saw that ship I did Saturday. You're talking about 2:59:32.840 --> 2:59:36.680 your bottles if I threw them up up or somebody saying, yo, 2:59:36.760 --> 2:59:38.600 Noiri's performing in Connecticut tomorrow. 2:59:38.640 --> 2:59:41.320 You can be like, no, I'm not that bag ain't come. 2:59:42.040 --> 2:59:44.000 So nobody's gonna go to that show because they, like 2:59:44.160 --> 2:59:47.000 Norry said it on his page from him, he's not 2:59:47.080 --> 2:59:48.440 scheduled to perform at that. 2:59:48.560 --> 2:59:50.400 I like how you can like that. I like you 2:59:50.440 --> 2:59:50.879 know what I'm saying. 2:59:50.920 --> 2:59:53.400 I like you, Yeah, I do. 2:59:53.680 --> 2:59:53.960 Listen. 2:59:54.040 --> 2:59:56.280 Let me just tell you something. Whenever I want to 2:59:56.320 --> 2:59:59.760 feel humble, you go home, I go to say something 2:59:59.760 --> 3:00:02.640 to Ship just just so they can just attack me, 3:00:02.680 --> 3:00:05.039 and I'd like, ah, like like. 3:00:06.720 --> 3:00:08.440 I feel I feel like I feel like at some 3:00:08.520 --> 3:00:12.000 point I might do like some sort of experiment where 3:00:12.120 --> 3:00:16.280 I just start saying the craziest ship just to see 3:00:16.360 --> 3:00:17.400 how oh yes. 3:00:17.680 --> 3:00:20.000 Oh yes, you know what I mean. Yes, and you'll 3:00:20.040 --> 3:00:23.280 create a whole nother audience. Yeah, just for this to see. 3:00:23.400 --> 3:00:26.000 And when it happens, you look at you all gonna 3:00:26.000 --> 3:00:29.039 read the tweet and like skills probably doing that thing 3:00:29.080 --> 3:00:31.119 he said, you know, because there's no way you believe 3:00:31.200 --> 3:00:34.879 what he just said, right, Your son is why and 3:00:34.959 --> 3:00:36.760 it's gonna get to a point where you're gonna be like, 3:00:38.160 --> 3:00:38.600 I don't know. 3:00:38.520 --> 3:00:39.039 If he sucking. 3:00:39.320 --> 3:00:41.920 I got to yo. You know you're wild right now. 3:00:42.320 --> 3:00:44.520 You know it's like thinking about how many people were. 3:00:44.440 --> 3:00:47.600 Even thinking to say that, you know what I mean, Like, 3:00:47.640 --> 3:00:50.000 it's a crazy space, man, it's crazy. 3:00:50.480 --> 3:00:52.680 This is a two part question. One. 3:00:52.959 --> 3:00:55.480 I heard you say that you could be You could 3:00:55.520 --> 3:00:58.160 be great. You just can't be the best if someone 3:00:58.240 --> 3:01:01.920 goes right for you, right. I also wanted to ask 3:01:02.000 --> 3:01:06.000 you because in this new day and age, when I 3:01:06.040 --> 3:01:08.680 watch these young kids perform, I don't see. 3:01:08.480 --> 3:01:12.640 The perform on the beat. I see them perform with 3:01:12.720 --> 3:01:15.879 the vocals. Yes, can they consider their self real? 3:01:16.120 --> 3:01:19.039 See if you're performing with the talking about the whole 3:01:19.080 --> 3:01:21.360 show with the vocals on it is that considered? 3:01:21.520 --> 3:01:22.800 And so it's a two part question. 3:01:23.080 --> 3:01:27.160 So performing if you're rhyming with the vocals, and can 3:01:27.240 --> 3:01:29.560 you ever be considered a goat if you had. 3:01:29.920 --> 3:01:31.920 Someone goes right, you can't be considered a goat. 3:01:32.120 --> 3:01:34.640 You can't if you if somebody wrote for you, Okay, 3:01:35.360 --> 3:01:36.160 I don't think so. 3:01:36.440 --> 3:01:38.000 You can still be considered one of the best. 3:01:38.040 --> 3:01:39.800 You could be one of the best, but you can't 3:01:39.800 --> 3:01:42.000 be the got okay, they had to come from you. 3:01:44.160 --> 3:01:48.160 The analogy of performing over vocals, I think that shit 3:01:48.280 --> 3:01:54.920 started when people started just going to clubs. But it 3:01:55.000 --> 3:01:57.600 wasn't a performance. It was just yo, so and sow 3:01:57.720 --> 3:02:00.320 them over there, got a section we just on so 3:02:00.480 --> 3:02:04.400 is that tonight? And their sound systems and they will go, 3:02:05.120 --> 3:02:07.760 they will go. And you didn't get paid to perform. 3:02:07.840 --> 3:02:10.200 You just got paid to be there. So the promoter 3:02:10.320 --> 3:02:12.080 might try to sneak this. You might try to throw 3:02:12.120 --> 3:02:14.080 something in, Yo, We're gonna throw on your joint. 3:02:15.320 --> 3:02:16.720 If you want to say something to the people. 3:02:16.760 --> 3:02:19.320 They hoping you're gonna do your song, and they're like, nah, 3:02:19.400 --> 3:02:21.640 ain't he't paid for the performance money, Like you just 3:02:21.680 --> 3:02:25.640 getting boom boom boom. So you got a DJ there, 3:02:25.680 --> 3:02:27.640 he just gonna play your He don't got the TV track, 3:02:27.720 --> 3:02:28.720 he don't got the instrumental. 3:02:28.760 --> 3:02:32.439 That ain't your DJ. So you throwing the record. 3:02:32.760 --> 3:02:35.720 And that that's the way you can move in different 3:02:35.760 --> 3:02:40.600 cities without having a DJ. So if the DJ at 3:02:40.640 --> 3:02:42.600 the club just play your record and you wrap over it, 3:02:42.720 --> 3:02:44.680 you don't got pay for that plane ticket, you don't 3:02:44.680 --> 3:02:45.160 got pay for. 3:02:45.120 --> 3:02:47.440 That hotel room. Yeah, but I think you're talking about 3:02:47.480 --> 3:02:49.800 our day. I'm thinking about right now. I'm talking about 3:02:49.800 --> 3:02:52.320 these cats now. But right now you got a hard drive, 3:02:52.360 --> 3:02:54.400 you got you got that in your phone, you got 3:02:54.440 --> 3:02:55.080 your instrumental. 3:02:55.640 --> 3:02:59.640 Look, okay, I don't even think they make instrumentals. 3:02:59.720 --> 3:03:01.560 Hold on, guys, and some of them, I don't know 3:03:01.640 --> 3:03:05.040 that someone whose man artist. A side of that is 3:03:05.840 --> 3:03:11.200 having artists perform at terrible venues that had terrible sound systems, 3:03:11.320 --> 3:03:14.320 where the mics were horrible, and some of these younger 3:03:14.400 --> 3:03:16.360 artists was like, I'm not gonna go through that again. 3:03:16.400 --> 3:03:19.400 I'd rather relate my my my record with my vocals 3:03:19.400 --> 3:03:21.640 and I'll just try to do the best I can 3:03:21.760 --> 3:03:23.720 over it. And it became I'm not going to chance 3:03:24.040 --> 3:03:26.400 having bad mics and bad sound systems. 3:03:26.560 --> 3:03:30.920 That's gonna sound like monitors. If the if the sound 3:03:30.959 --> 3:03:34.360 in the club is trash, the hit record ain't gonna 3:03:34.400 --> 3:03:37.360 hit Dreams of Nightmas ain't gonna hit the same way 3:03:37.560 --> 3:03:41.440 speakers and hear trash period because the audience is blaming 3:03:41.879 --> 3:03:42.600 the artist, right. 3:03:42.879 --> 3:03:45.119 You know, it's crazy. You know, really really really really 3:03:45.120 --> 3:03:48.879 really really taught us that was Compona Noriega were on 3:03:48.879 --> 3:03:52.960 the worldwide tour. There's certain records that they didn't make 3:03:53.040 --> 3:03:55.520 instrumentals far back then, right, so. 3:03:55.480 --> 3:03:59.160 We didn't have time, We didn't know. We went to Europe, 3:04:00.840 --> 3:04:02.640 we do an hour and a half show. 3:04:03.120 --> 3:04:06.040 We go go because we only do like thirty forty 3:04:06.080 --> 3:04:08.440 minutes in America. So we think it like, we toy 3:04:08.480 --> 3:04:11.320 it down. We get off the stage, they're like, how 3:04:11.320 --> 3:04:15.240 do you like the show? They're like the vocals, man, yeah. 3:04:15.080 --> 3:04:15.880 We like what. 3:04:16.120 --> 3:04:18.480 We just get y'all extra twenty five minutes and it 3:04:18.680 --> 3:04:21.000 was like they didn't care. It's like yo, but you 3:04:21.000 --> 3:04:23.600 guys wrapped over the vocals and we're. 3:04:23.440 --> 3:04:25.680 Like, why am I coming to see you? Yeah? Yeah? 3:04:26.280 --> 3:04:28.640 And this was this was only like records like that 3:04:28.640 --> 3:04:31.120 that we didn't have have, you know, you know what 3:04:31.120 --> 3:04:35.200 I mean, So like like super super Underground B B side, 3:04:35.240 --> 3:04:37.240 Super C side, I don't even know if that's the thing, 3:04:37.480 --> 3:04:38.000 you know what I mean? 3:04:38.040 --> 3:04:40.280 But yeah, yeah, I'm like. 3:04:40.240 --> 3:04:43.840 When you left the studio, any engineer that has a 3:04:43.920 --> 3:04:46.560 right frame of mind is going to give you the 3:04:46.640 --> 3:04:51.040 main song, the clean version of TV tracks, instrumental, the 3:04:51.120 --> 3:04:53.520 TV track, and the Hoka fucking peal. 3:04:53.800 --> 3:04:55.240 You supposed to have all that. 3:04:55.120 --> 3:04:58.280 When you lead a studio anywhere for every record, but 3:04:58.400 --> 3:05:01.000 every most engineers on only doing it for what did 3:05:01.000 --> 3:05:01.840 you say the single was? 3:05:01.920 --> 3:05:03.000 Okay, that's where that's coming. 3:05:03.120 --> 3:05:05.360 But you should have it for every record, and that's 3:05:05.400 --> 3:05:09.200 just about being prepared. But these kids they don't you know, 3:05:09.200 --> 3:05:10.080 they don't care about that. 3:05:10.360 --> 3:05:13.480 No, do you think it's ever gonna change? Hell? No, 3:05:13.560 --> 3:05:16.840 we stuck, stuck. Yeah, we fun. I'm gonna go ahead 3:05:16.840 --> 3:05:17.480 take a shot to that. 3:05:18.000 --> 3:05:19.960 Hold on, let me let me have you ever seen 3:05:19.959 --> 3:05:21.200 the movie Idiocracy? 3:05:22.120 --> 3:05:24.280 Okay? Hold up, man, we didn't even. 3:05:24.520 --> 3:05:27.120 I suggest you see that movie Idiocracy because that's what 3:05:27.240 --> 3:05:28.240 we're stuck Nori. 3:05:31.000 --> 3:05:33.240 Yo? Man? So's anything else you have to say. 3:05:33.080 --> 3:05:38.120 To h anything I missed? I got movie out? 3:05:38.120 --> 3:05:39.640 You check the movie? Okay, where's the movie? 3:05:40.120 --> 3:05:42.000 I was on YouTube with streaming. I did a movie 3:05:42.040 --> 3:05:45.480 called Mad Skills in the nineties. Girl brunch about that. 3:05:47.720 --> 3:05:50.240 So yeah, I saw. 3:05:50.280 --> 3:05:50.560 I saw. 3:05:50.840 --> 3:05:52.280 When I saw a rap man on here, I was 3:05:52.320 --> 3:05:55.280 super inspired because I was like, damn, like the nigga 3:05:55.320 --> 3:05:56.279 went from right wrap. 3:05:56.120 --> 3:05:58.000 Ups, the right movies, the TV shows. 3:05:58.000 --> 3:06:01.880 So but I already have mine, but I'm definitely gonna 3:06:02.360 --> 3:06:05.440 dive more into film. Still teaching, you know what I'm saying. 3:06:06.520 --> 3:06:09.640 You know, still writing, doing a lot of TV sync work, 3:06:10.360 --> 3:06:12.160 you know what I mean. So yeah, you know, having 3:06:12.200 --> 3:06:14.800 fun with it. Is it ever a chance for you 3:06:14.879 --> 3:06:16.080 as you to wrap up together? 3:06:16.680 --> 3:06:17.640 Absolutely not. 3:06:20.080 --> 3:06:24.720 Nah, beef, It's just no, no, no, there's no beef. 3:06:25.160 --> 3:06:28.400 I got you know, I got love for him. You 3:06:28.400 --> 3:06:31.520 know what I'm saying. I never ever, we never even met. 3:06:31.800 --> 3:06:34.320 It's crazy part that's funny. We talked. We talked in 3:06:34.400 --> 3:06:37.160 the d M one time. So funny, dude. 3:06:37.200 --> 3:06:40.199 So I can you know you're here wild, funny nag, 3:06:40.520 --> 3:06:43.840 you know what I'm saying. Like my stance on him 3:06:43.920 --> 3:06:47.640 now from what it was before, this is definitely like 3:06:48.720 --> 3:06:51.280 it's crazy. Like when I stopped, when I stopped doing 3:06:51.280 --> 3:06:53.280 the wrap up, when I look at all of the 3:06:53.320 --> 3:06:55.720 ship that I did in that time since I've been 3:06:55.760 --> 3:06:59.040 here last, it's like, I don't even miss the song. 3:06:59.320 --> 3:06:59.800 You know what I'm saying. 3:07:00.400 --> 3:07:02.800 I did the jay Z Rock and Roll of Fame BT, 3:07:03.360 --> 3:07:05.280 I did a festival in my city. I didn't did 3:07:05.320 --> 3:07:07.240 a film, you know what I'm saying. Like I did 3:07:07.400 --> 3:07:10.400 so much in that time, so I don't miss I 3:07:10.400 --> 3:07:12.160 don't miss it at all, even though people still hit 3:07:12.200 --> 3:07:12.920 me up about it. 3:07:13.280 --> 3:07:14.840 I don't miss it at all. Do you have a 3:07:14.840 --> 3:07:16.600 favorite wrap up? You did the first one? 3:07:16.720 --> 3:07:20.320 The first one, Yeah, that was the inaugural one. Man. 3:07:20.520 --> 3:07:22.920 I remember I listened to it, maybe not too long 3:07:22.959 --> 3:07:25.840 ago when I was like, uh, I got to the 3:07:25.840 --> 3:07:28.520 point where I was like I said, I said, Snoop, 3:07:28.560 --> 3:07:31.920 stop smoking in though Michael Jackson put his baby out 3:07:31.920 --> 3:07:35.160 the window. And it's like they because it's like they 3:07:35.240 --> 3:07:36.119 time capsules. 3:07:36.120 --> 3:07:38.320 Man. You go back and listen to them and they 3:07:38.360 --> 3:07:39.039 tell you so much. 3:07:39.080 --> 3:07:41.520 And when I think about all of the people that 3:07:41.680 --> 3:07:45.160 you know, have you know, borrowed that concept, like like 3:07:45.280 --> 3:07:47.800 you know, we talked about rap man and I just 3:07:47.879 --> 3:07:50.080 hit Nate Burroson today. He used to do an NFL 3:07:50.120 --> 3:07:52.560 wrap up you on Good Morning America. Now you know 3:07:52.600 --> 3:07:55.280 what I'm saying, Like, like we talked about before, so 3:07:55.320 --> 3:07:59.440 many franchises and just people just just doing their own 3:07:59.520 --> 3:08:02.560 version of it. So I'm glad I started something that 3:08:02.600 --> 3:08:06.520 people love, and now it's just time to keep keep 3:08:06.560 --> 3:08:07.800 starting new traditions. 3:08:07.879 --> 3:08:10.080 You know what I'm saying. Oh yeah, for sure, We'll 3:08:10.120 --> 3:08:11.160 continue to do your thing. 3:08:11.280 --> 3:08:17.160 Man, hope everybody's right. 3:08:19.280 --> 3:08:22.680 Drink Champs is a drink Champs LLC production hosts and 3:08:22.800 --> 3:08:26.200 executive producers n O r E and dj e f N. 3:08:27.360 --> 3:08:31.520 Listen to Drink Champs on Apple Podcast, Amazon Music, Spotify, 3:08:31.800 --> 3:08:35.440 or wherever you get your podcasts. 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