WEBVTT - The Perfect 10

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<v Speaker 1>This is the most dramatic podcast ever and iHeartRadio Podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to a very special edition of the most Dramatic

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<v Speaker 1>podcast ever. I'm Chris Harrison alongside Lauren Zema from her

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<v Speaker 1>home office in Austin, Texas, we woke to the very

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<v Speaker 1>sad news that legendary Dancing with the Stars judge had

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<v Speaker 1>Judge Lynn Goodman had passed away at the age of

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<v Speaker 1>seventy eight. Lynn was just known as a wonderful, kind

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<v Speaker 1>giving man. Obviously we all loved to have millions did

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<v Speaker 1>watching Dancing with the Stars all those years. He died

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<v Speaker 1>in his home, surrounded by his family. He had been

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<v Speaker 1>battling bone cancer for quite some time and stepped away

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<v Speaker 1>from the show to spend time back home. But when

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<v Speaker 1>so much in this day and age is made of

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<v Speaker 1>people that are divisive, people that are angry, why not

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<v Speaker 1>do a show about someone that everybody just loved. Lynn

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<v Speaker 1>was one of those guys that everybody could just rally around.

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<v Speaker 1>Even when he was being kind of critical of the dancers,

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<v Speaker 1>you knew it came out of a good place.

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<v Speaker 2>They all respected him one hundred percent, and we wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to give a couple of those people who worked with

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<v Speaker 2>him for so long the time to share their memories

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<v Speaker 2>with him. I think we're also in a day and

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<v Speaker 2>age where you know, somebody passes and it's kind of

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<v Speaker 2>a quick blip and then it's on to the next

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<v Speaker 2>And you and I were both just so involved with

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<v Speaker 2>this show. I covered Dancing with the Stars for six

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<v Speaker 2>seven years with Entertainment Tonight. You saw several bachelor people

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<v Speaker 2>go on the show, and you'd attended several times, and

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<v Speaker 2>so we just wanted to reach out to some of

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<v Speaker 2>our dancer friends and former contestant friends and share some

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<v Speaker 2>memories of Len and talk about a show that we

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<v Speaker 2>both loved and a guy who everybody, as you said,

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<v Speaker 2>loved and respected.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember when the show was being pitched and an

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<v Speaker 1>ABC executive came in our control room and said, we're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about so By the way, Lynn was also the

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<v Speaker 1>judge of Strictly Calm Dancing. That is what Dancing with

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<v Speaker 1>the Stars is. It was a BBC show first, same

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<v Speaker 1>thing celebrities, you know, dancing with pro dancers. Lynn was

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<v Speaker 1>on that show and for many years he would go

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<v Speaker 1>back and forth between the BBC show and then come

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<v Speaker 1>to Hollywood and do Dancing with the Stars. And when

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<v Speaker 1>I remember what it was pitched. I'm like, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know slabs pro dancers. Clearly I was wrong. And Tony

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<v Speaker 1>Bernielli who was also a judge, He came over from

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<v Speaker 1>Strictly Come Dancing and they spent many, many years together.

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<v Speaker 1>But I remember Trista Wrenn. Trista was the first. She

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<v Speaker 1>was our bachelorette, and she was the first person ever

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<v Speaker 1>voted off Dancing with the Stars. She was, Yes, she

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<v Speaker 1>has the dubious honors.

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<v Speaker 2>So when they was the first elimination of the first season.

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<v Speaker 1>And they of the show. So when the show started,

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<v Speaker 1>you know that that started this symbiotic relationship. Obviously we're

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<v Speaker 1>all in the ABC family on primetime and Dancing with

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<v Speaker 1>Air when The Bachelor wasn't on, and so often they

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<v Speaker 1>used people from our show. Well, it all started with Trista,

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<v Speaker 1>our first bachelorette. But yeah, she had dubious honor. The

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<v Speaker 1>first person in the history of the show ever voted

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<v Speaker 1>off was Trista.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it also sort of became kind of a controversial

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<v Speaker 2>battle between your shows. I guess I would interview pros

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of the time, would say some of them

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<v Speaker 2>that they struggled with when Bachelor contestants were on because

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<v Speaker 2>they would have this strong fandom voting for them that

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't actually watching Dancing with the Stars like the Bachelor Nation,

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<v Speaker 2>fans would vote for the contestants, but they weren't actually watching,

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<v Speaker 2>which bothered the pros sometimes and it also sort of

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<v Speaker 2>held over contestants head sometimes whether they would be able

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<v Speaker 2>to go be on the show.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, like I mean, you remember infamously, you remember Sean

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<v Speaker 1>Loh did so well because he was so beloved. Caitlin Bristow,

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<v Speaker 1>Hannah Brown, those are the people that did so great

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<v Speaker 1>on the show, and they danced really well. Not Sean,

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<v Speaker 1>the ladies did. And he'll be the first to tell you,

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<v Speaker 1>but you're right, I remember you. During the voting, it

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<v Speaker 1>was a lot of well, this is a popularity contest.

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<v Speaker 1>The Bachelor has this built in fandom, and it just

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<v Speaker 1>went to show up about how beloved these people were

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<v Speaker 1>when they came off The Bachelor of bache Arette at

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<v Speaker 1>the time.

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<v Speaker 2>But Lenn rose above it all.

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<v Speaker 1>He did well. And to your point, I was on

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<v Speaker 1>the show quite a bit where I would stop by

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<v Speaker 1>and support whoever it was that was dancing at the time,

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<v Speaker 1>and I spent a lot of time with the judges.

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<v Speaker 1>I knew Carrie and Ama very well and got to

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<v Speaker 1>meet Lynn and spend a lot of time with him.

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<v Speaker 1>We'd be at ABC events. Just always such a kind,

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<v Speaker 1>good man, just a gentleman, Always a smile on his face,

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<v Speaker 1>a twinkle in his eye, always light on his step.

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<v Speaker 1>He looked and carried himself like a dancer, which he,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, was he in his teens. He was

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<v Speaker 1>a competitive dancer and went on I believe it was

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<v Speaker 1>in his late twenties when he won the British championship.

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<v Speaker 1>He was the best dancer in the UK. So that's

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<v Speaker 1>where it came from. It came from his competitive edge.

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<v Speaker 1>And when he stopped competitive dancing, he's like, I'm done

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<v Speaker 1>with that. But obviously he was perfect for this job

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<v Speaker 1>which was created and then came to the States and

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<v Speaker 1>Dancing with the Stars.

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<v Speaker 2>That's something I love about Dancing with the Stars is

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<v Speaker 2>that the judges have always been people with legitimate experience.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, It's not like when Ellen DeGeneres was member,

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<v Speaker 2>when she was brought on to judge American Idol, right,

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<v Speaker 2>and everybody's like, why is this half right? But you know,

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<v Speaker 2>Lenn had an incredible pedigree, and I think I read

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<v Speaker 2>in one of the obituaries written about him this really

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<v Speaker 2>sweet quote. He said something like, you know, I'm just

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<v Speaker 2>a guy who got lucky. He was always very humble

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<v Speaker 2>as well that he became this dancer, But in terms

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<v Speaker 2>of this fame and becoming this judge and being on television,

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<v Speaker 2>he just viewed that he got lucky.

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<v Speaker 1>He did an interview and he said, I want this

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<v Speaker 1>to be my obituary. He said, you can write it,

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<v Speaker 1>he said, and this is the quote you were talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>He was a dance teacher from Dartford who got lucky.

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<v Speaker 1>Because that's just about the truth of it. The self

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<v Speaker 1>deprecation clearly in that, but it doesn't tell the story

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<v Speaker 1>of how beloved he was. And so Elsie and I thought,

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<v Speaker 1>let's do a show just for a good man that

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<v Speaker 1>left a big impression on millions of people as we

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<v Speaker 1>watched him for the better part of two decades. And

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<v Speaker 1>as Lauren said, we're going to talk to some former

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<v Speaker 1>professional dancers, a couple of the celebrities who danced on

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<v Speaker 1>the show, and just hear their stories, the people that

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<v Speaker 1>were in the trenches with them day in and day out,

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<v Speaker 1>and so Lenn Goodman, this show is for you. Lindsay

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<v Speaker 1>Arnold became a professional dancer on season sixteen of Dancing

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<v Speaker 1>with the Stars. At the time, I remember when she

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<v Speaker 1>came in. If I'm not mistaken, it was about the

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<v Speaker 1>same time Whitney came in.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, we've all started the same season.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember meeting both of you at an ABC event.

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<v Speaker 1>You were the second youngest dancer and Dance with the

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<v Speaker 1>Star's history. Obviously you heard the story about Lenn passing away,

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<v Speaker 1>and I know he was someone near and dear to you,

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<v Speaker 1>as he was to everybody in that Dancing with the

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<v Speaker 1>Stars family. Can you shed some light on who he was,

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<v Speaker 1>what he meant?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, I mean, I think the outpouring of love that

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<v Speaker 3>we've seen has just really just paid tribute to him

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<v Speaker 3>as a person. But I don't think there's enough that

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<v Speaker 3>we could possibly say or do to like truly capture

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<v Speaker 3>how incredible this man was. I was somebody who had

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<v Speaker 3>watched Dancing with the Stars from season one, started out

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<v Speaker 3>as a die hard fan, like twelve year old me

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<v Speaker 3>sitting on my couch every single week, and Len was

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<v Speaker 3>always there, like he was a part of the show

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<v Speaker 3>from the beginning, and truly. The best way I can

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<v Speaker 3>discreim is he was the heart of the show, Like

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<v Speaker 3>he really really was. So it was so cool for

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<v Speaker 3>me because coming from a position of being a fan

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<v Speaker 3>watching these judges and watching Len in particular, and then

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<v Speaker 3>getting to be a part of the show and getting

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<v Speaker 3>to interact with him, I have to say, honestly, and

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<v Speaker 3>I think everybody would probably say the same thing, like

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<v Speaker 3>Len gives off this really like mean, like he gave

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<v Speaker 3>off this I'm a grumpy man vibe. But it was

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<v Speaker 3>the coolest thing ever to have that switch from like

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<v Speaker 3>feeling that and being like, oh, I'm so nervous to

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<v Speaker 3>meet Len, to literally be the most welcoming, warm, kind

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<v Speaker 3>person I had ever met in my life. It was

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<v Speaker 3>the coolest shift, Like, and it was that first season.

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<v Speaker 3>I saw it right away, Like it didn't take a

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<v Speaker 3>long time for me to see this incredible man that

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<v Speaker 3>he was. It was pretty instantaneous where I'm like, no,

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<v Speaker 3>he is a kind human and he says it like

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<v Speaker 3>it is, which is what made the show so incredible.

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<v Speaker 3>He never held back and he wasn't going to sugarcoat things,

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<v Speaker 3>and that's why I think people respected about him so much.

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<v Speaker 2>Lin's it seemed to me, And actually I should share

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<v Speaker 2>one thing about Len was he really didn't do the

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<v Speaker 2>press lines much because he usually was like flying back

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<v Speaker 2>to England. And I don't know how much you hung

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<v Speaker 2>out with him off stage, you know, in between when

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<v Speaker 2>the cameras were actually rolling. But was he that same

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<v Speaker 2>person or it seemed to me always like he would

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<v Speaker 2>be the type who'd probably come up to you after

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<v Speaker 2>the cameras stopped rolling and still give you that same feedback,

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<v Speaker 2>and that he was genuine through and through and he

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<v Speaker 2>would even be tough on you behind the scenes a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit, but in a good way.

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<v Speaker 3>That is exactly it. It's that there was nothing like

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<v Speaker 3>him putting on a show. What you saw from Len,

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<v Speaker 3>no matter when it was is what was truly him.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think that was so special about him is

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<v Speaker 3>he was authentic to his core. And it's true he

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<v Speaker 3>would not come off stage and be like sorry I

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<v Speaker 3>had to say that. No he said something, it's because

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<v Speaker 3>he meant it, he felt it, he stood behind it,

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<v Speaker 3>and we all really respected that because we're like, that's

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<v Speaker 3>your opinion, that is what your job is.

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<v Speaker 1>Not to take anything. It all away from Carrie An

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<v Speaker 1>and Bruno who were lovely in their own right and

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<v Speaker 1>added their own little thumbprint to the show. But when

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<v Speaker 1>you're standing there as a dancer with your celebrity partner

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<v Speaker 1>and you're awaiting the judge's words, how much weight and

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<v Speaker 1>what did it mean when Len spoke?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, that was everything, And like you said, it's like

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<v Speaker 3>no disrespect to the other judges, but Len was like

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<v Speaker 3>you cared so much about Len's opinion and it was

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<v Speaker 3>a universal thing, like we all felt it. And I

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<v Speaker 3>think it's just because of that authenticity that we knew

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<v Speaker 3>was there, Like we knew that what he said was

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<v Speaker 3>what he felt, and like we knew it was coming

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<v Speaker 3>from a place of like, Okay, whatever Len says, I've

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<v Speaker 3>got to listen to that. And it's true. It's true

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<v Speaker 3>for the good and the bad. If Lenn said something bad,

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<v Speaker 3>it hits you a little bit harder than the others.

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<v Speaker 3>And when he said something really good, you were like

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<v Speaker 3>even that much more stoked. And I love that, like

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<v Speaker 3>him getting a ten from Len became this thing that

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<v Speaker 3>like was such a prized possession.

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<v Speaker 1>It meant so much, the ten from Lenn.

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<v Speaker 3>It literally was like prize. And it's funny because I

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<v Speaker 3>feel like, as pros, we would kind of have to

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<v Speaker 3>explain that to our celebs because the celebs come in,

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<v Speaker 3>they're like a ten from Anyone's fine, We're like, yes, yes,

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<v Speaker 3>but yeah, the ten from Len. Because I feel like,

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<v Speaker 3>here's the thing. I feel like Len was one of

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<v Speaker 3>the most known judges to kind of talk to the

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<v Speaker 3>pros as well, to get after the pros if there

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<v Speaker 3>wasn't enough content, and kind of I feel like he

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<v Speaker 3>was the first one to kind of start not like

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<v Speaker 3>like discouraging the pros, but in a way like he

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<v Speaker 3>would be hard on us and it was good because

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<v Speaker 3>we needed it and we needed to hear that. So

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<v Speaker 3>it's like when we got that positive feedback from him,

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like it was also like he was giving

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<v Speaker 3>us a pat on the back, which felt really really good.

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<v Speaker 2>How did he balance that with you, Lindsey? Or maybe

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<v Speaker 2>was it hard in the beginning though, because you and

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<v Speaker 2>Whitney were so young. I mean, you're not even you know,

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<v Speaker 2>full grown, experienced adult professional dancers on stage at that point,

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<v Speaker 2>but you're up there getting the feedback from Len along

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<v Speaker 2>with everybody else.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think it was a little bit scary. I

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<v Speaker 3>think too, because when Whitney and I joined the show.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like it started kind of shifting from being

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<v Speaker 3>just strict ballroom, Like all you saw was ballroom. There

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<v Speaker 3>was never any other styles or anything kind of incorporated.

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<v Speaker 3>And because we were cross trained, we did bring a

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<v Speaker 3>little bit of that, like we'd do a chow job,

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<v Speaker 3>but maybe we'd throw a little hip hop section in there,

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<v Speaker 3>and you know, Len hasn't always loved that, so but

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<v Speaker 3>it was cool because here's the thing, there was such

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<v Speaker 3>a respect between Len and the pros, Like we knew

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<v Speaker 3>what he liked to see, and we knew if we

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<v Speaker 3>were going to go a little different that he probably

0:11:59.880 --> 0:12:02.520
<v Speaker 3>was wasn't going to be on board with it. And

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like he always just paid so much respect

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<v Speaker 3>to the pros for our work, but then at the

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<v Speaker 3>same time was like, this is what I like and

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<v Speaker 3>you know that, and if you're gonna choose not to

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<v Speaker 3>do it, then I'm going to comment on it. So

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<v Speaker 3>it was like this mutual respect. But I feel like

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<v Speaker 3>it definitely shook things up when things started shifting a

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<v Speaker 3>little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>To echo off what LZ was just saying, Lens was,

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<v Speaker 1>was he a bit of a father figure? He was

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<v Speaker 1>probably a bit of a father figure over the entire franchise,

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<v Speaker 1>but to you and Whitney, maybe in a very real

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<v Speaker 1>way because you were so young, did he have that

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<v Speaker 1>effect on you? Did he kind of take you under

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<v Speaker 1>his wing of like helping you along as you were

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<v Speaker 1>so young starting on this show.

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<v Speaker 3>I think the guidance that Len gave from behind the

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<v Speaker 3>table for me personally, I mean, he can't speak for everybody,

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<v Speaker 3>but for me personally was such a very It was

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<v Speaker 3>a driving force for the way that I became as

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<v Speaker 3>a choreographer, as a teacher, because, like I said, I

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<v Speaker 3>came into the show, I had a lot of different

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<v Speaker 3>style experience, and I wanted to be individual, Like I

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<v Speaker 3>wanted to bring a new flavor, something different that everybody

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<v Speaker 3>hadn't seen. But the same time, I feel like Len

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<v Speaker 3>really guided me and helped me make sure I was

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<v Speaker 3>keeping the integrity of the show and maintaining what the

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<v Speaker 3>show is all about, but then also like bringing my

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<v Speaker 3>own flair, and I love that he encouraged but also

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<v Speaker 3>like kept us in line. I think that was I

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<v Speaker 3>think it's very important. I think it's the reason that

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<v Speaker 3>the show has done as well as it has because

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<v Speaker 3>he really helped keep the integrity of the show.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you've spoken him so well. Uh, Lin's even in

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<v Speaker 2>just these few minutes. And I got to ask you though,

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<v Speaker 2>and I have to thank you because I was just

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<v Speaker 2>looking at your Instagram story before you came on here.

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<v Speaker 2>You're not like heading to the hospital in a minute,

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<v Speaker 2>are you, because.

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<v Speaker 3>I just I mean, we hope not, but it could.

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<v Speaker 4>My du date is.

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<v Speaker 3>Next Friday, so I'm like, we could go at any point.

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<v Speaker 2>Which is exciting.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, let's do it.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's make it happen.

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<v Speaker 2>You're pregnant with baby number two. And I felt back

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<v Speaker 2>as I messaged you, can you please come do this

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<v Speaker 2>tribute to Len? And then I was looking at your

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<v Speaker 2>Instagram stories and You're like, I'm on one cent of

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<v Speaker 2>your time.

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<v Speaker 1>You're literally sitting here in labor technically who he's talking

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<v Speaker 1>to you right?

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<v Speaker 3>So but it's worth it.

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<v Speaker 5>It is.

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<v Speaker 3>When I heard you were doing this for Lin, I'm like,

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<v Speaker 3>of course, like I I can't like of course, of

0:14:08.080 --> 0:14:11.160
<v Speaker 3>course he was so special to me, to everybody. I mean,

0:14:11.600 --> 0:14:13.040
<v Speaker 3>it means so much that you're doing this too, So

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<v Speaker 3>I'm glad I could be a part of it.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, before I let you go have a baby, do

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<v Speaker 1>you have a goodbye story before before we leave you

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<v Speaker 1>that just kind of encapsulates Len. Something you remember, something

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<v Speaker 1>that you'll always remember.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll never forget this because it was one of my

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<v Speaker 3>worst moments on the show and also one of my best.

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<v Speaker 3>This was season twenty two. My partner was yan Ye Morris.

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<v Speaker 3>It was the semi finals, very important week. Me and

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<v Speaker 3>wan Yer had like a really really great dance, like

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<v Speaker 3>probably one of his strongest dances. We were put last

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<v Speaker 3>in the show, like everything was set up for us

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<v Speaker 3>to be like good, and we had some props in

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<v Speaker 3>this dance and I dropped my prop and wan Ye,

0:14:54.320 --> 0:14:56.920
<v Speaker 3>my partner, slipped on the prop that I dropped, okay,

0:14:57.000 --> 0:14:59.680
<v Speaker 3>and then messed up like the entire rest of the routine,

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<v Speaker 3>and it was my fault. And I've never cried or

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<v Speaker 3>lost it, but I lost it. I was just a mess.

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<v Speaker 3>And funny enough, that same night they did the they

0:15:10.960 --> 0:15:12.680
<v Speaker 3>haven't done this in a while, but they paired the

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<v Speaker 3>judges with a couple of couples and like had them

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<v Speaker 3>to a dance together, and it was me and juan

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<v Speaker 3>Ye Morris, and then it was Val and ginger Z.

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<v Speaker 3>We did a dance and Len was our judge, and

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<v Speaker 3>he actually danced with us, and we had to do

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<v Speaker 3>that shortly after I had just had this full debacle,

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<v Speaker 3>and I remember that I am like in tears, just

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<v Speaker 3>like feeling so miserable. Len walks out. He had like

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<v Speaker 3>a ruffel shirt on, and part of the dance was

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<v Speaker 3>we did like some shimmies with him, and we're backstage practicing,

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<v Speaker 3>and I just had this like surreal moment that I'll

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<v Speaker 3>literally never forget, looking at Len, looking at where we were,

0:15:47.160 --> 0:15:50.000
<v Speaker 3>realizing that I'm dancing with this legend, this person that

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<v Speaker 3>I grew up watching admiring, and now get to work alongside.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm shimmying with him on national television. Like there's literally

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<v Speaker 3>nothing that could get me down in that moment, and

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<v Speaker 3>it was so cool because I needed it and just

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<v Speaker 3>his energy like that was also a really cool time

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<v Speaker 3>for me because it went from that was I think

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<v Speaker 3>my first experience with Len, where it went from like

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<v Speaker 3>we're we have this kind of like student teacher situation

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<v Speaker 3>till we were working together. We quographed the dance together

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<v Speaker 3>and then taught the celebrities together, and it was just

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<v Speaker 3>such a special moment and I'll never forget because it

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<v Speaker 3>was literally one of my worst nights on Dance with

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<v Speaker 3>the Stars, and then he made it one of my

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<v Speaker 3>most memorable things that I will literally never forget.

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<v Speaker 1>Clearly a man that left an impression on you, as

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<v Speaker 1>he did millions of other people. Lindsay Arnold, thank you

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<v Speaker 1>so much. Danced for a decade, ten years on Dancing

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<v Speaker 1>with the Stars. Hard to believe, yes, and even harder

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<v Speaker 1>to believe that she's sitting there in labor right now.

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<v Speaker 1>And let me just say, God, bless you on a healthy, happy,

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<v Speaker 1>beautiful baby.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 3>That means so much to me.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks for having me. We love you, Lenz. Could we

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<v Speaker 2>see you back on the show where I actually haven't

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<v Speaker 2>talked to you in a while, or are you like

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<v Speaker 2>busy at home with babies now?

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<v Speaker 3>So I don't really know. I really like people ask

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<v Speaker 3>all the time, and like I've not closed the door

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<v Speaker 3>at all, Like I definitely have not. I've never said like,

0:17:02.680 --> 0:17:05.440
<v Speaker 3>oh I'm done forever. And when I had the conversation

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<v Speaker 3>with the show, it was really just like timing. It's

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<v Speaker 3>just gonna have to be a timing thing.

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<v Speaker 2>So we'll see.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sure that two kids is going to rock my

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<v Speaker 3>world even more than one, so we will see how

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<v Speaker 3>those things.

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<v Speaker 5>First.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's just let's take care of the baby this week out, then.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll assess how things are.

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<v Speaker 2>So many congrats and thank you for talking to us,

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<v Speaker 2>and hopefully we'll see in person soon.

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<v Speaker 3>Thanks Linz, guys, Thank you guys, have a good day.

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<v Speaker 1>Joining us.

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<v Speaker 5>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>Another professional dancer, Emma Slater, who kind of came to

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<v Speaker 1>the show maybe a little bit differently. She was part

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<v Speaker 1>of the troupe, uh, you know, the ensemble that would

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<v Speaker 1>dance in the show, and then out of that was

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<v Speaker 1>picked to be one of the professional dancers and has

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<v Speaker 1>gone on to have an amazing career on Dance with

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<v Speaker 1>the Stars. So, Imma, just first of all, the sad

0:18:05.800 --> 0:18:08.200
<v Speaker 1>news about lenn and what he meant to you.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, it was so heartbreaking to me. Len is like

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<v Speaker 6>a grandfather and he's been in my life since I

0:18:17.080 --> 0:18:20.280
<v Speaker 6>was about twelve or thirteen. We're both from England and

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<v Speaker 6>I grew up in the competitive world and Len is

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<v Speaker 6>actually a very very very well respected judge from England.

0:18:29.000 --> 0:18:32.119
<v Speaker 6>He grew up he's like the legend of ballroom and

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<v Speaker 6>so he would judge a lot of the competitions that

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<v Speaker 6>I was at so overall, losing him, someone who has

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<v Speaker 6>been a part of my life throughout many different facets

0:18:42.480 --> 0:18:45.600
<v Speaker 6>of it, was really shocking. I was not expecting that.

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<v Speaker 6>I didn't know he was as sick as he was,

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<v Speaker 6>and I hope he wasn't in pain, but yeah, it

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<v Speaker 6>was a real shock yesterday.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you give a little more light on that, because

0:18:54.720 --> 0:18:56.520
<v Speaker 1>we all know Lyn over here in the States is

0:18:56.600 --> 0:18:59.040
<v Speaker 1>Dancing with the Stars and clearly he was strictly come

0:18:59.160 --> 0:19:03.359
<v Speaker 1>dancing with the BBC also though very visible, but maybe

0:19:03.359 --> 0:19:06.600
<v Speaker 1>talk about what a legend he was in dance. You've again,

0:19:06.640 --> 0:19:09.520
<v Speaker 1>he's been judging your competition since you were a little girl.

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<v Speaker 1>And he is the name, and he has a dance company,

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<v Speaker 1>he has a dance school in England, so his name

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<v Speaker 1>still carries on.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, it's still good.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean he is as ballroom, as tight laced as

0:19:23.560 --> 0:19:26.760
<v Speaker 6>they come. He would turn up to these competitions which

0:19:26.760 --> 0:19:30.639
<v Speaker 6>were held every Sunday in England and everybody came, and

0:19:30.680 --> 0:19:34.159
<v Speaker 6>he would come and look so smart and dapper, always

0:19:34.160 --> 0:19:36.719
<v Speaker 6>in a suit. I remember I saw him in jeans

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<v Speaker 6>for the first time at Dancing with the Stars and

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<v Speaker 6>he was just backstage and he had a white t

0:19:42.040 --> 0:19:46.080
<v Speaker 6>shirt on and jeans, and I've never seen him outside

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<v Speaker 6>of a shirt or in any of the pants other

0:19:48.560 --> 0:19:51.760
<v Speaker 6>than trowser pants like soup pounds. So from me, it

0:19:51.880 --> 0:19:54.480
<v Speaker 6>was quite a shock, like I've never seen him so relaxed,

0:19:54.480 --> 0:19:55.560
<v Speaker 6>and he was talking about golf.

0:19:55.600 --> 0:19:59.919
<v Speaker 4>Actually he loved golf. But way back in England.

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<v Speaker 6>When he adjudicating, he was the Lend that you saw

0:20:02.680 --> 0:20:05.119
<v Speaker 6>on screen, only you didn't get to know how you know,

0:20:05.480 --> 0:20:08.440
<v Speaker 6>playful and wise and grumpy he was because he would

0:20:08.440 --> 0:20:10.920
<v Speaker 6>just be standing there with a pen and paper and

0:20:11.080 --> 0:20:14.760
<v Speaker 6>God bless him, he always marked me really well. So

0:20:14.840 --> 0:20:17.959
<v Speaker 6>I remember my parents would take me to every competition

0:20:18.280 --> 0:20:20.920
<v Speaker 6>where they knew he was a judge because they knew, oh,

0:20:21.080 --> 0:20:24.119
<v Speaker 6>Lens on the panel, he'll mark her into the finals.

0:20:24.440 --> 0:20:27.480
<v Speaker 6>So we would drive like sometimes four hours every Sunday

0:20:27.600 --> 0:20:30.440
<v Speaker 6>just to go to a competition where he was and

0:20:30.480 --> 0:20:33.719
<v Speaker 6>I might, honestly, I might even have got his autograph

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<v Speaker 6>when I was maybe twelve or thirteen because he was

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<v Speaker 6>such a legend. That was just the thing to do,

0:20:38.760 --> 0:20:43.040
<v Speaker 6>is you looked up to the people that were extremely

0:20:43.400 --> 0:20:47.359
<v Speaker 6>respected and wise in the field, and definitely Lend was

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<v Speaker 6>one of them.

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<v Speaker 2>Emma, I feel like you have a unique story then,

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<v Speaker 2>because most people say he critiques so harshly. What was

0:20:54.119 --> 0:20:56.080
<v Speaker 2>that connection that you had that he would mark you?

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<v Speaker 6>Well, I know, and well you know when I came

0:20:59.320 --> 0:21:02.240
<v Speaker 6>into the whole Dancing with the Stars realm and became

0:21:02.440 --> 0:21:06.800
<v Speaker 6>judged on national TV by him, he was the judge

0:21:06.840 --> 0:21:09.960
<v Speaker 6>that I absolutely generated the most I don't want to

0:21:10.000 --> 0:21:13.280
<v Speaker 6>say the word fear, but I was the most anxious

0:21:13.320 --> 0:21:17.040
<v Speaker 6>about Len's comment because he had judged me from such

0:21:17.080 --> 0:21:20.520
<v Speaker 6>a young age, and and so I really hung onto

0:21:20.560 --> 0:21:23.720
<v Speaker 6>his every word because he was an actual judge to me.

0:21:23.840 --> 0:21:25.879
<v Speaker 6>He wasn't just a TV judge. He used to do

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<v Speaker 6>that throughout my whole childhood and my whole adolescence. So

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<v Speaker 6>it was quite a shock to see him in this space.

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<v Speaker 6>It was almost like, oh, I couldn't get away from

0:21:36.119 --> 0:21:39.920
<v Speaker 6>like the actual judges of my childhood. But I actually

0:21:40.520 --> 0:21:44.960
<v Speaker 6>I managed to tell him that. So last season, obviously

0:21:45.040 --> 0:21:47.680
<v Speaker 6>he made this announcement or the show made the announcement

0:21:47.760 --> 0:21:51.359
<v Speaker 6>that Len was retiring. Absolute shocked to me. I was,

0:21:52.400 --> 0:21:56.439
<v Speaker 6>I'm very I'm such a sensitive person. I was balling

0:21:56.480 --> 0:21:58.840
<v Speaker 6>my eyes out. And then we went to it wasn't

0:21:58.840 --> 0:22:01.199
<v Speaker 6>a commercial break, but the set was changing, so I

0:22:01.240 --> 0:22:03.920
<v Speaker 6>had a few moments to go down to the judge's

0:22:03.960 --> 0:22:07.399
<v Speaker 6>table and grab his hands and say, hey, I can't

0:22:07.400 --> 0:22:08.639
<v Speaker 6>believe that you're retiring.

0:22:08.680 --> 0:22:10.280
<v Speaker 4>You've been part of my life for so long.

0:22:10.560 --> 0:22:12.320
<v Speaker 6>And I gave him a hug and I told him,

0:22:12.320 --> 0:22:14.280
<v Speaker 6>you know, remember when you would judge me when I

0:22:14.320 --> 0:22:16.600
<v Speaker 6>was a kid, and you were always the best to

0:22:16.680 --> 0:22:20.159
<v Speaker 6>me and so sweet. And somebody called it on camera,

0:22:20.240 --> 0:22:22.639
<v Speaker 6>and so I actually have that video last season of

0:22:23.040 --> 0:22:25.600
<v Speaker 6>me having this moment. And then I walked off and

0:22:25.640 --> 0:22:29.840
<v Speaker 6>I got all tiary and now I'm so grateful for

0:22:30.040 --> 0:22:33.480
<v Speaker 6>that and that I had those few short minutes with him,

0:22:33.520 --> 0:22:36.480
<v Speaker 6>because I mean, I guess time is precious, and I

0:22:36.560 --> 0:22:38.280
<v Speaker 6>just didn't know that he wouldn't be here for me

0:22:38.359 --> 0:22:39.520
<v Speaker 6>to say it to him anymore.

0:22:39.640 --> 0:22:42.040
<v Speaker 1>Good lesson, good lesson, And you talk to him.

0:22:42.080 --> 0:22:43.680
<v Speaker 2>And when was the last time he got an a

0:22:43.760 --> 0:22:44.680
<v Speaker 2>talk to him? Emma?

0:22:44.840 --> 0:22:46.280
<v Speaker 4>It was last season.

0:22:46.920 --> 0:22:49.639
<v Speaker 6>It was around about maybe a week after that was

0:22:49.680 --> 0:22:53.040
<v Speaker 6>the finals, and I congratulated and told him what an

0:22:53.080 --> 0:22:57.560
<v Speaker 6>amazing legacy he has in the show, and just congratulated

0:22:57.600 --> 0:22:59.160
<v Speaker 6>him for being a part of the show and.

0:22:59.359 --> 0:23:01.320
<v Speaker 4>Told him to told him to play golf.

0:23:02.240 --> 0:23:04.919
<v Speaker 6>He absolutely loved golf, so we would talk about that

0:23:05.000 --> 0:23:07.960
<v Speaker 6>quite a bit. Actually, I have no interest in golf whatsoever,

0:23:08.040 --> 0:23:10.200
<v Speaker 6>but I just knew that he would just talk about

0:23:10.200 --> 0:23:12.080
<v Speaker 6>it at the time and he would love it and

0:23:12.119 --> 0:23:14.359
<v Speaker 6>sort of like light up. So told him to do

0:23:14.400 --> 0:23:17.720
<v Speaker 6>all that and that I would be seeing him soon,

0:23:18.280 --> 0:23:21.520
<v Speaker 6>which course isn't going to happen, but he's always going

0:23:21.560 --> 0:23:22.120
<v Speaker 6>to be with us.

0:23:22.240 --> 0:23:23.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm glad you have that moment.

0:23:24.280 --> 0:23:25.000
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, me too.

0:23:25.359 --> 0:23:28.760
<v Speaker 6>I really, looking back on it, it's made me think, God,

0:23:29.280 --> 0:23:31.879
<v Speaker 6>I got to take more of those moments with more people.

0:23:32.680 --> 0:23:35.480
<v Speaker 2>Well, it sounds like he was I mean I even

0:23:35.560 --> 0:23:37.840
<v Speaker 2>in covering the show, I was saying earlier he didn't

0:23:37.840 --> 0:23:39.840
<v Speaker 2>always do the press line. I think he did. He

0:23:39.960 --> 0:23:42.880
<v Speaker 2>keep a little bit of that private boundary even though

0:23:42.920 --> 0:23:44.600
<v Speaker 2>you guys still felt quite close to him.

0:23:45.440 --> 0:23:51.359
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, even backstage, it's almost like you didn't know whether

0:23:51.440 --> 0:23:54.439
<v Speaker 6>you could go up to him because he did like

0:23:54.520 --> 0:23:59.560
<v Speaker 6>to take that line and sometimes you would. Sometimes he

0:23:59.640 --> 0:24:02.879
<v Speaker 6>would absolutely drill you on the dance floor. You'd be

0:24:02.920 --> 0:24:05.920
<v Speaker 6>standing there getting a comment. And I remember with James

0:24:06.000 --> 0:24:08.920
<v Speaker 6>Van der Beeek he said, tooty fruity, what a booty

0:24:09.520 --> 0:24:11.760
<v Speaker 6>and then and then afterwards you would want to go

0:24:11.800 --> 0:24:13.639
<v Speaker 6>and approach him and be like, oh, thank you for

0:24:13.680 --> 0:24:16.560
<v Speaker 6>your comments, or like that was that was such a

0:24:16.600 --> 0:24:19.119
<v Speaker 6>funny remark. Like you would always talk about tea or

0:24:19.119 --> 0:24:22.880
<v Speaker 6>prune Drew's or something quite essentially British, but you would

0:24:22.880 --> 0:24:24.520
<v Speaker 6>never know if you were able to come up to

0:24:24.600 --> 0:24:27.240
<v Speaker 6>him and talk to him, because he did like to

0:24:27.320 --> 0:24:30.040
<v Speaker 6>keep a separation. He loved being in his trailer, he

0:24:30.080 --> 0:24:34.280
<v Speaker 6>loved having his teas, and you know you did okay,

0:24:34.320 --> 0:24:37.320
<v Speaker 6>but sometimes he would sometimes he'd be like, love what

0:24:37.440 --> 0:24:39.240
<v Speaker 6>you did, and then you felt it, you.

0:24:39.200 --> 0:24:41.720
<v Speaker 2>Know, Well, can I ask you, I'm having known him

0:24:41.760 --> 0:24:45.920
<v Speaker 2>so long, what did you take from him about teaching? What?

0:24:45.920 --> 0:24:47.920
<v Speaker 2>What has? What did you learn from him that you've

0:24:47.920 --> 0:24:49.879
<v Speaker 2>brought into the way that you teach, the way that

0:24:49.920 --> 0:24:53.280
<v Speaker 2>you teach your partners, the way that you convey what

0:24:53.359 --> 0:24:54.480
<v Speaker 2>dances to somebody?

0:24:55.040 --> 0:24:58.479
<v Speaker 6>I think, I mean, Lenny's a person of fundamentals and

0:24:58.520 --> 0:25:02.160
<v Speaker 6>he really knows the rule book. So whenever things would

0:25:02.160 --> 0:25:04.960
<v Speaker 6>get a little bit crazy in the dances, he would

0:25:05.160 --> 0:25:06.800
<v Speaker 6>tell you to keep it in line, and he would

0:25:06.880 --> 0:25:08.960
<v Speaker 6>keep you in check and he would be like, don't

0:25:09.000 --> 0:25:12.359
<v Speaker 6>be rolling around on the floor, don't be crazy. All

0:25:12.400 --> 0:25:15.240
<v Speaker 6>these what wafty arm movements. He was a classic man

0:25:15.520 --> 0:25:19.399
<v Speaker 6>who really liked the simple elements and really appreciated the

0:25:19.480 --> 0:25:23.160
<v Speaker 6>quintessential beauty of his craft. And so I knew if

0:25:23.160 --> 0:25:27.200
<v Speaker 6>I wanted to please Len, I would choreograph it very traditionally,

0:25:27.280 --> 0:25:30.119
<v Speaker 6>and I would put a lot of the recognizable steps

0:25:30.160 --> 0:25:32.400
<v Speaker 6>in that I knew he loved and that I knew

0:25:32.440 --> 0:25:34.919
<v Speaker 6>were part of the boring world. And if I wanted to, like,

0:25:35.040 --> 0:25:38.960
<v Speaker 6>you know, make him grumpy, then just don't do any

0:25:38.960 --> 0:25:39.920
<v Speaker 6>of that and just do.

0:25:39.960 --> 0:25:41.640
<v Speaker 4>Your own thing. But you would hear it. You would

0:25:41.640 --> 0:25:43.920
<v Speaker 4>hear about it I get from him.

0:25:43.920 --> 0:25:46.920
<v Speaker 6>I really took the tradition is good, and I will

0:25:47.000 --> 0:25:48.720
<v Speaker 6>keep I will honor that and keep that for him.

0:25:48.880 --> 0:25:51.160
<v Speaker 1>Oh I like that. That's a good line right there.

0:25:51.160 --> 0:25:52.480
<v Speaker 1>Tradition is good, and you'll keep that.

0:25:52.760 --> 0:25:55.240
<v Speaker 6>There's definitely going to be something that I will do

0:25:55.320 --> 0:25:57.720
<v Speaker 6>in the future that will be dedicated to him, for sure.

0:25:58.280 --> 0:26:00.280
<v Speaker 2>And I think even taking the time. What's funny is

0:26:00.359 --> 0:26:03.480
<v Speaker 2>you're not too far from us. You're in Austin, but

0:26:04.040 --> 0:26:06.600
<v Speaker 2>you're only here briefly, so we're still doing this on zoom.

0:26:06.840 --> 0:26:08.560
<v Speaker 2>What are you doing down here? Are you meeting a cowboy.

0:26:08.560 --> 0:26:10.280
<v Speaker 2>What's going on? Can we set you up with a

0:26:10.359 --> 0:26:11.400
<v Speaker 2>nice Texas cowboy?

0:26:12.240 --> 0:26:13.920
<v Speaker 4>Oh, a Texas cowboy would be lovely.

0:26:14.000 --> 0:26:16.840
<v Speaker 6>I've not had the pleasure of meeting on the Texas

0:26:16.880 --> 0:26:19.160
<v Speaker 6>Cowboys so far in Austin, but I'm going to see

0:26:19.240 --> 0:26:22.480
<v Speaker 6>James van Derbeek and we were just talking about him

0:26:22.760 --> 0:26:25.840
<v Speaker 6>on the season, and actually our Fonso is going to

0:26:25.880 --> 0:26:28.040
<v Speaker 6>be here too, so we're actually having a mini reunion.

0:26:28.119 --> 0:26:31.480
<v Speaker 6>It was planned before the tragic news of Land, but

0:26:31.520 --> 0:26:34.159
<v Speaker 6>it will be actually quite nice to be amongst people

0:26:34.200 --> 0:26:35.760
<v Speaker 6>that can kind of celebrate and honor him.

0:26:35.760 --> 0:26:38.440
<v Speaker 4>So I'm just here visiting my friends for a couple

0:26:38.480 --> 0:26:38.879
<v Speaker 4>of days.

0:26:39.160 --> 0:26:41.320
<v Speaker 1>Well, Emma, thank you so much for the time. Truly

0:26:41.320 --> 0:26:44.200
<v Speaker 1>appreciate it in your thoughts of Land and your perspective,

0:26:44.200 --> 0:26:46.760
<v Speaker 1>because you have a perspective nobody has, which is knowing

0:26:46.840 --> 0:26:50.760
<v Speaker 1>him virtually your entire life. So appreciate it.

0:26:51.160 --> 0:26:53.240
<v Speaker 4>Thank you so much, and thank you for honoring him.

0:26:53.359 --> 0:27:02.280
<v Speaker 4>I love that you guys are great.

0:27:06.800 --> 0:27:09.080
<v Speaker 1>It was great talking to a couple of the professional

0:27:09.240 --> 0:27:12.560
<v Speaker 1>dancers to get their perspective and their reverence of Len

0:27:12.600 --> 0:27:14.119
<v Speaker 1>and what he meant. But I wanted to talk to

0:27:14.119 --> 0:27:17.080
<v Speaker 1>a couple of the celebrities, and there are plenty that

0:27:17.160 --> 0:27:20.159
<v Speaker 1>came out of the Bachelor Bachelorette world, and one of

0:27:20.160 --> 0:27:24.119
<v Speaker 1>them joins me now from his home in Iowa. I

0:27:24.160 --> 0:27:26.520
<v Speaker 1>believe he's in Iowa right now. Chris Soles was our

0:27:26.560 --> 0:27:29.199
<v Speaker 1>bachelor and then he was, of course on Dancing with

0:27:29.240 --> 0:27:33.320
<v Speaker 1>the Stars. His dancing partner was Whitney Carson. I believe

0:27:33.359 --> 0:27:35.240
<v Speaker 1>it was season twenty of Dancing with the Stars. You

0:27:35.280 --> 0:27:36.240
<v Speaker 1>were on how you doing, Bud.

0:27:37.840 --> 0:27:41.440
<v Speaker 5>I'm well, Chris, how are you doing? Great?

0:27:41.440 --> 0:27:41.600
<v Speaker 7>Man?

0:27:41.680 --> 0:27:45.560
<v Speaker 1>I appreciate you spending some time to talk about a

0:27:45.600 --> 0:27:49.240
<v Speaker 1>man that meant so much to everybody. And I wanted

0:27:49.240 --> 0:27:55.080
<v Speaker 1>to get a couple of celebrity perspectives on this. What

0:27:55.119 --> 0:27:59.480
<v Speaker 1>did Lynn mean to you guys as celebrity dancers? What

0:27:59.560 --> 0:28:00.320
<v Speaker 1>was his imp act?

0:28:02.440 --> 0:28:02.679
<v Speaker 7>You know?

0:28:03.000 --> 0:28:06.960
<v Speaker 8>The first time I met Lynn was outside a hotel

0:28:07.160 --> 0:28:10.159
<v Speaker 8>I think it's Orlando and in West Hollywood, and that

0:28:10.280 --> 0:28:13.400
<v Speaker 8>was when I just got He asked me the bachelor.

0:28:14.000 --> 0:28:15.159
<v Speaker 5>He had no idea who.

0:28:15.000 --> 0:28:19.639
<v Speaker 8>I was, and I knew who he was, and I

0:28:19.680 --> 0:28:22.959
<v Speaker 8>sat down next to him and I just told him

0:28:23.000 --> 0:28:25.560
<v Speaker 8>what I was going through. And I said, yeah, they

0:28:25.680 --> 0:28:30.200
<v Speaker 8>just asked me to be a bachelor, and whatever and.

0:28:29.359 --> 0:28:31.159
<v Speaker 5>He said, well, you know what that means.

0:28:31.400 --> 0:28:34.560
<v Speaker 8>I means you're probably gonna be in I'm Dancing with

0:28:34.560 --> 0:28:43.000
<v Speaker 8>the Stars like no now a chance in hell. And uh, yeah,

0:28:43.200 --> 0:28:45.680
<v Speaker 8>that was that was my first time meeting Lynn. And

0:28:45.760 --> 0:28:49.600
<v Speaker 8>then you know his impact on me. It was incredible

0:28:49.840 --> 0:28:52.560
<v Speaker 8>just to have a ton of respect for him. And

0:28:52.600 --> 0:28:57.360
<v Speaker 8>he brought a presence to that show that was you know,

0:28:58.000 --> 0:29:02.040
<v Speaker 8>brought a legitimacy to that show, which was remarkable, and

0:29:02.040 --> 0:29:05.960
<v Speaker 8>and uh and uh, just just a brilliant guy.

0:29:06.840 --> 0:29:09.840
<v Speaker 1>Obviously, the professional dancers talked about the reverence they had

0:29:09.880 --> 0:29:11.400
<v Speaker 1>and trying to get a good score and a good

0:29:11.400 --> 0:29:14.360
<v Speaker 1>word from Lend. But you're saying that the celebrities felt

0:29:14.400 --> 0:29:16.440
<v Speaker 1>that as well, even though that wasn't your world.

0:29:18.120 --> 0:29:20.480
<v Speaker 8>I think everyone respected that. I mean, when you go

0:29:20.560 --> 0:29:23.520
<v Speaker 8>into that world, you ark shut. He wanted to be

0:29:23.760 --> 0:29:26.560
<v Speaker 8>professional and and I don't know, I guess that's where

0:29:26.600 --> 0:29:27.240
<v Speaker 8>my heart was.

0:29:27.320 --> 0:29:28.800
<v Speaker 5>And and and you.

0:29:28.760 --> 0:29:33.360
<v Speaker 8>Couldn't you couldn't really argue with his his presence and

0:29:33.560 --> 0:29:38.120
<v Speaker 8>his background. He was the real deal, you know, and

0:29:38.120 --> 0:29:41.640
<v Speaker 8>and there was he wasn't in it to say say

0:29:41.680 --> 0:29:43.800
<v Speaker 8>things that were anything but the truth.

0:29:43.880 --> 0:29:46.959
<v Speaker 1>And when he seemed to, he seemed to appreciate. Uh,

0:29:46.960 --> 0:29:49.000
<v Speaker 1>and I remember you you you know, you and I

0:29:49.040 --> 0:29:52.280
<v Speaker 1>talked about this, if you're going to do it. He

0:29:52.400 --> 0:29:55.440
<v Speaker 1>appreciated when celebrities put their heart and soul into it

0:29:55.480 --> 0:29:58.440
<v Speaker 1>and actually went for it. He knew you weren't professional,

0:29:58.480 --> 0:30:01.560
<v Speaker 1>he knew you guys weren't great, but he really seemed

0:30:01.600 --> 0:30:06.120
<v Speaker 1>to appreciate your effort and your love of dance and

0:30:06.160 --> 0:30:09.160
<v Speaker 1>your love of all of that was dancing with the stars.

0:30:09.720 --> 0:30:12.400
<v Speaker 1>That seemed to be what resonated with me towards the

0:30:12.440 --> 0:30:15.680
<v Speaker 1>celebrities and and you in particular, because you did. You

0:30:15.720 --> 0:30:17.840
<v Speaker 1>were kind of the country guy. It's like, oh, he's

0:30:17.880 --> 0:30:20.239
<v Speaker 1>not really going to do this, but you did, like

0:30:20.320 --> 0:30:22.200
<v Speaker 1>you really sold out for that and you went for

0:30:22.240 --> 0:30:24.520
<v Speaker 1>it with all your heart as you typically do with

0:30:24.560 --> 0:30:29.160
<v Speaker 1>everything you do. Was that something that you felt from Lend.

0:30:31.200 --> 0:30:32.800
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I know hund percent.

0:30:32.920 --> 0:30:38.680
<v Speaker 8>I respect any person in any profession that that really,

0:30:39.440 --> 0:30:41.560
<v Speaker 8>as you know, has their heart in it, and he

0:30:41.880 --> 0:30:44.560
<v Speaker 8>had his heart in that profession. There was no question,

0:30:45.440 --> 0:30:48.600
<v Speaker 8>as do I with you know, whether it's farming or

0:30:48.680 --> 0:30:51.680
<v Speaker 8>what our experience together on the show on the batch,

0:30:51.760 --> 0:30:55.880
<v Speaker 8>are you're there, enter or you're out? Not those kind

0:30:55.880 --> 0:30:58.440
<v Speaker 8>of things resonate. You know, when you see somebody that

0:30:59.160 --> 0:31:01.560
<v Speaker 8>you just can't deny, that doesn't matter what you say.

0:31:01.800 --> 0:31:05.200
<v Speaker 5>Words are words are just options. When you when you

0:31:05.240 --> 0:31:06.520
<v Speaker 5>see somebody.

0:31:06.040 --> 0:31:10.680
<v Speaker 8>That has you just know, you just know, no, no

0:31:10.760 --> 0:31:13.840
<v Speaker 8>fool fool bullshit, you just know. And that was Len

0:31:14.440 --> 0:31:16.320
<v Speaker 8>and he was a good man. You just could tell.

0:31:16.360 --> 0:31:19.120
<v Speaker 8>And it's a loss to see him go.

0:31:19.360 --> 0:31:22.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, hey, Bud, I appreciate it. It's good to

0:31:22.000 --> 0:31:24.960
<v Speaker 1>see you again. And uh, I appreciate you pulling off

0:31:25.000 --> 0:31:27.000
<v Speaker 1>on the side of the road to share a few

0:31:27.000 --> 0:31:30.080
<v Speaker 1>words and thoughts and memories of uh Lynn goodman. I

0:31:30.120 --> 0:31:36.080
<v Speaker 1>appreciate it. And uh, you're good in life. Life treating

0:31:36.120 --> 0:31:36.520
<v Speaker 1>you well.

0:31:36.680 --> 0:31:42.200
<v Speaker 8>In Iowa, we are planting corn and uh just doing

0:31:42.760 --> 0:31:45.520
<v Speaker 8>God's work over here and one day at a time.

0:31:45.640 --> 0:31:47.959
<v Speaker 5>Man, Yeah, doing well. How are you?

0:31:48.120 --> 0:31:49.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm doing wonderful.

0:31:49.040 --> 0:31:49.360
<v Speaker 5>Thank you.

0:31:49.480 --> 0:31:53.040
<v Speaker 1>Family is good, everybody's healthy and and uh that's that's

0:31:53.040 --> 0:31:56.280
<v Speaker 1>all right. And uh so I appreciate it. Was it

0:31:56.360 --> 0:31:58.240
<v Speaker 1>was good to see you at Well's wedding and I

0:31:58.320 --> 0:32:00.520
<v Speaker 1>miss seeing you and hopefully our pasti across again soon.

0:32:02.000 --> 0:32:04.560
<v Speaker 8>Likewise, like thanks for having me on.

0:32:04.720 --> 0:32:07.680
<v Speaker 1>Good to see you, man, Hi brother, take care. He

0:32:07.760 --> 0:32:11.080
<v Speaker 1>was our Bachelor, and then he appeared on season ten

0:32:11.320 --> 0:32:15.880
<v Speaker 1>of Dancing with the Stars joining me. Now, Jake, Pavelka, Jake,

0:32:16.320 --> 0:32:18.200
<v Speaker 1>it has been a while, my friend, How are you

0:32:18.240 --> 0:32:19.120
<v Speaker 1>doing it?

0:32:19.240 --> 0:32:22.560
<v Speaker 7>Sure? Has Chris doing really well? I missed you.

0:32:22.600 --> 0:32:24.720
<v Speaker 4>How's everything going really good?

0:32:24.840 --> 0:32:28.720
<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, we're uh, you know, reconvening under these circumstances.

0:32:29.400 --> 0:32:32.320
<v Speaker 1>But I wanted to get, you know, your perspective on

0:32:32.600 --> 0:32:35.360
<v Speaker 1>a guy that we all loved and adored, Lynn Goodman,

0:32:35.400 --> 0:32:41.120
<v Speaker 1>who passed away, and hearing the perspective of the celebrities,

0:32:41.120 --> 0:32:44.040
<v Speaker 1>I think is interesting because he was so revered as

0:32:44.320 --> 0:32:48.960
<v Speaker 1>this godfather and this you know, huge, huge all star

0:32:49.080 --> 0:32:51.960
<v Speaker 1>of dancing. So the professionals loved and adored him and

0:32:51.960 --> 0:32:54.880
<v Speaker 1>admired him. But I'm wondering, what did you think of

0:32:55.000 --> 0:32:57.400
<v Speaker 1>Lynn when you met him or heard of him as

0:32:57.440 --> 0:32:58.600
<v Speaker 1>a judge on Dancing?

0:32:59.200 --> 0:33:02.200
<v Speaker 7>Well, you know my takeaway from dancing as far as

0:33:02.200 --> 0:33:04.760
<v Speaker 7>you know, it's been been many, many years, but he

0:33:05.520 --> 0:33:08.720
<v Speaker 7>you know, Bruno Tagnoli is really funny carry in and

0:33:08.760 --> 0:33:11.960
<v Speaker 7>Abba is just a huge character with a huge personality,

0:33:12.040 --> 0:33:15.840
<v Speaker 7>brings a lot of the show. Lynn. Lynn was the

0:33:16.200 --> 0:33:20.320
<v Speaker 7>you know, the the cutting edge professional and he cared

0:33:20.360 --> 0:33:24.240
<v Speaker 7>about everybody. Uh, you know, he genuinely, no matter what

0:33:24.320 --> 0:33:29.000
<v Speaker 7>your skill level, gave you advice at your current level

0:33:29.080 --> 0:33:31.360
<v Speaker 7>to because he wanted to see you succeed. And I

0:33:31.360 --> 0:33:34.520
<v Speaker 7>think he was always disappointed, you know, when when somebody

0:33:34.600 --> 0:33:36.959
<v Speaker 7>just wasn't quite going to get it, or when somebody

0:33:37.040 --> 0:33:41.240
<v Speaker 7>had a breakthrough, and that's you know, that's that's the

0:33:41.280 --> 0:33:45.479
<v Speaker 7>most memorable takeaway. Something funny though, when when we were

0:33:45.480 --> 0:33:52.200
<v Speaker 7>shooting the show in twenty ten, they keep everybody at

0:33:52.200 --> 0:33:55.240
<v Speaker 7>the you know, at the same apartment complex there in

0:33:55.280 --> 0:33:58.960
<v Speaker 7>Los Angeles, real close to maybe s Television City. And

0:33:59.240 --> 0:34:02.320
<v Speaker 7>I don't know how old Linn was at the time,

0:34:02.760 --> 0:34:07.160
<v Speaker 7>but yeah, he wore a bright speedo by the pool.

0:34:10.280 --> 0:34:13.120
<v Speaker 7>You'd see him down there frequently getting some son.

0:34:13.920 --> 0:34:16.680
<v Speaker 1>A side of Lynn you didn't necessarily need to see

0:34:17.080 --> 0:34:18.000
<v Speaker 1>or or want to.

0:34:18.120 --> 0:34:20.360
<v Speaker 7>But you know what, that's okay because he was just

0:34:20.400 --> 0:34:22.200
<v Speaker 7>as happy as a lark by the pool, didn't care

0:34:22.239 --> 0:34:26.440
<v Speaker 7>what anybody thought. Such a great guy. I'm so sad

0:34:26.480 --> 0:34:29.000
<v Speaker 7>to learn that he's passed away.

0:34:29.080 --> 0:34:31.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know, I think everybody's sentiment is the same

0:34:31.680 --> 0:34:34.560
<v Speaker 1>of you know, one of the dancers we talked to

0:34:34.640 --> 0:34:37.000
<v Speaker 1>earlier just kind of summed it up as he was

0:34:37.080 --> 0:34:40.360
<v Speaker 1>the heart of the show, kind of this father's figure

0:34:40.640 --> 0:34:44.760
<v Speaker 1>and earning his respect, earning his words meant a lot

0:34:44.800 --> 0:34:45.200
<v Speaker 1>to you.

0:34:45.120 --> 0:34:51.480
<v Speaker 7>Guys, It really did, because Lynn was you know, I mean,

0:34:51.480 --> 0:34:54.400
<v Speaker 7>most of the people that are on Dancing with the Stars,

0:34:54.440 --> 0:34:58.200
<v Speaker 7>including the professionals, you know, they're they're entertainers. Lynn Lynn

0:34:58.239 --> 0:35:01.920
<v Speaker 7>is a dancer and a teacher, instructor, a very effective instructor,

0:35:01.960 --> 0:35:04.640
<v Speaker 7>because you know, one of the big things on that show.

0:35:04.960 --> 0:35:06.480
<v Speaker 7>One of the things that I kind of struggled with

0:35:06.560 --> 0:35:10.240
<v Speaker 7>a little bit is just because you were a crazy

0:35:10.320 --> 0:35:12.720
<v Speaker 7>dancer and just do some incredible things with your body

0:35:12.719 --> 0:35:15.200
<v Speaker 7>on a dance floor does not mean that you can

0:35:15.239 --> 0:35:19.279
<v Speaker 7>explain that to somebody. You know, how to do what

0:35:19.320 --> 0:35:22.880
<v Speaker 7>you're doing and when, and Lynn just had that muscle

0:35:22.920 --> 0:35:26.080
<v Speaker 7>that he could flex in that he could he could

0:35:26.200 --> 0:35:28.040
<v Speaker 7>see what you're doing, you see what you're doing wrong,

0:35:28.080 --> 0:35:31.000
<v Speaker 7>and give you very technical details in a very short

0:35:31.040 --> 0:35:33.480
<v Speaker 7>amount of time while you're standing there, and not make

0:35:33.560 --> 0:35:36.520
<v Speaker 7>you feel judged. You know you were being judged, but

0:35:36.880 --> 0:35:38.880
<v Speaker 7>he just had a very delicate way of putting it.

0:35:38.920 --> 0:35:42.160
<v Speaker 7>And that's so appreciated because everybody on there, most people

0:35:42.160 --> 0:35:46.760
<v Speaker 7>can't dance right unless you're Nicole Scherzinger. But most people

0:35:46.800 --> 0:35:48.800
<v Speaker 7>go on there that can't dance and got two lefts

0:35:48.800 --> 0:35:50.200
<v Speaker 7>to trying to learn it. They're doing it in front

0:35:50.200 --> 0:35:53.759
<v Speaker 7>of America, and it can be it's nerve wracking, and

0:35:53.840 --> 0:35:55.319
<v Speaker 7>he just really understood that.

0:35:56.239 --> 0:35:56.399
<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

0:35:56.480 --> 0:35:58.319
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think it goes back to he was a

0:35:58.440 --> 0:36:02.560
<v Speaker 1>very well renowned a judic cater over in Europe and England,

0:36:02.920 --> 0:36:05.040
<v Speaker 1>and so he was used to dealing with kids and

0:36:05.080 --> 0:36:08.080
<v Speaker 1>talking to people that are just learning and so uh

0:36:08.120 --> 0:36:10.399
<v Speaker 1>he he it's good to hear he had this way

0:36:10.440 --> 0:36:14.640
<v Speaker 1>about him and just an amazing man, and it's it's

0:36:14.680 --> 0:36:17.239
<v Speaker 1>good to hear the perspective of people that were going

0:36:17.280 --> 0:36:21.600
<v Speaker 1>through the process of what what he meant to, even

0:36:21.640 --> 0:36:23.600
<v Speaker 1>the celebrities on the show. It's very cool.

0:36:24.040 --> 0:36:28.040
<v Speaker 7>Yes, yeah, absolutely that that's very very well well uh

0:36:28.280 --> 0:36:29.320
<v Speaker 7>well stated.

0:36:29.360 --> 0:36:33.520
<v Speaker 1>Before I let you go, just your your lasting impression

0:36:33.560 --> 0:36:39.160
<v Speaker 1>of Len what you will remember about him forever, you

0:36:39.200 --> 0:36:39.440
<v Speaker 1>know what.

0:36:40.000 --> 0:36:46.520
<v Speaker 7>Uh So they didn't capture this on camera, but Chelsea

0:36:46.600 --> 0:36:48.920
<v Speaker 7>Iwer my partner and I and it was it was

0:36:49.239 --> 0:36:51.719
<v Speaker 7>towards the semifinals. I mean he was episode six or

0:36:51.719 --> 0:36:56.120
<v Speaker 7>seven out of the ten. We had a wardrobe malfunction

0:36:56.920 --> 0:37:02.080
<v Speaker 7>and nobody saw it except Lynn, And then afterwards he said, Chris,

0:37:02.080 --> 0:37:05.200
<v Speaker 7>what happened was, uh, it was a It was a

0:37:05.200 --> 0:37:07.319
<v Speaker 7>move where I was, you know, on my knees and

0:37:07.360 --> 0:37:11.080
<v Speaker 7>I was spinning Chelsea real fast twice and she moves her,

0:37:11.080 --> 0:37:14.160
<v Speaker 7>you know, spins around twice in my arms, and somehow

0:37:14.840 --> 0:37:19.719
<v Speaker 7>my hand got mixed up with her wardrobe and went

0:37:20.239 --> 0:37:24.600
<v Speaker 7>right into the front of her fold, and I got it.

0:37:25.400 --> 0:37:28.319
<v Speaker 7>Bless her heart, you know, it is what it is.

0:37:28.800 --> 0:37:32.080
<v Speaker 7>Nobody saw it. America didn't say anything when it aired.

0:37:33.080 --> 0:37:35.200
<v Speaker 7>She Chelsea and I thought we were the only two

0:37:35.280 --> 0:37:37.680
<v Speaker 7>that actually knew that that happened. Lynn came up after

0:37:37.719 --> 0:37:40.960
<v Speaker 7>the show and said, what did you think about that?

0:37:41.080 --> 0:37:45.759
<v Speaker 7>He said, I saw what exactly what happened. You guys

0:37:45.840 --> 0:37:47.560
<v Speaker 7>gonna start dating right.

0:37:49.719 --> 0:37:53.440
<v Speaker 1>That's a great guy, a great guy, and I appreciate

0:37:53.480 --> 0:37:56.799
<v Speaker 1>you taking the time to share your perspective. It's been

0:37:56.840 --> 0:37:59.439
<v Speaker 1>a while and hopefully we won't wait so long before

0:37:59.440 --> 0:38:00.480
<v Speaker 1>we catch up again.

0:38:00.320 --> 0:38:03.040
<v Speaker 7>My friend, Yes, sir, I'd love that, all.

0:38:03.000 --> 0:38:04.760
<v Speaker 1>Right, Jake Pavelka appreciate.

0:38:04.360 --> 0:38:07.680
<v Speaker 7>It, you bet, Take care, Chris, thank you, My.

0:38:07.719 --> 0:38:11.960
<v Speaker 1>Thanks to the professional dancers. Lindsay Arnold Imma Slater and

0:38:12.600 --> 0:38:17.960
<v Speaker 1>celebrity dancers Chris Sols Jake Pavelka for their perspective and

0:38:18.000 --> 0:38:22.520
<v Speaker 1>their words for Lynn Goodman, who we lost this week.

0:38:25.280 --> 0:38:31.560
<v Speaker 1>We remember him through their words as this adjudicator, this judge,

0:38:32.000 --> 0:38:35.400
<v Speaker 1>this celebrity, and he was a celebrity in the world

0:38:35.400 --> 0:38:38.759
<v Speaker 1>of dance and was huge and the BBC was huge

0:38:38.760 --> 0:38:42.080
<v Speaker 1>on ABC with Dancing with the Stars and did an

0:38:42.080 --> 0:38:47.360
<v Speaker 1>amazing job and touched millions and millions of lives, as

0:38:47.760 --> 0:38:50.560
<v Speaker 1>Lendsay Arnold said, shaped her life and Emma Slater from

0:38:50.560 --> 0:38:53.239
<v Speaker 1>the age of twelve shaped her life. But I think

0:38:54.200 --> 0:38:57.520
<v Speaker 1>if he were here, he would agree that the greatest

0:38:57.600 --> 0:39:03.480
<v Speaker 1>job he ever held was that of husband, father and grandfather.

0:39:04.400 --> 0:39:09.120
<v Speaker 1>And I said this earlier, but to repeat it because

0:39:09.120 --> 0:39:13.480
<v Speaker 1>it is such a Lynn Goodman thing to say. The

0:39:13.520 --> 0:39:19.480
<v Speaker 1>obituary that he had written for himself was he was

0:39:19.520 --> 0:39:23.160
<v Speaker 1>a dance teacher from Dartford who got lucky. Because that's

0:39:23.320 --> 0:39:27.600
<v Speaker 1>just about the truth of it. Well, Len, with all

0:39:27.680 --> 0:39:31.120
<v Speaker 1>due respect, I know those are your words, but you

0:39:31.160 --> 0:39:34.319
<v Speaker 1>were so much more than that. You made such a

0:39:34.360 --> 0:39:37.799
<v Speaker 1>bigger impact than that. And people often say at a

0:39:37.840 --> 0:39:42.680
<v Speaker 1>funeral and at times like this, what is legacy legacy

0:39:42.880 --> 0:39:46.239
<v Speaker 1>is that lasting impression the lives you change when you

0:39:46.280 --> 0:39:50.640
<v Speaker 1>were long gone, and that Lynn Goodman was not luck.

0:39:51.120 --> 0:39:54.280
<v Speaker 1>That was all you. So thank you for a life

0:39:54.640 --> 0:39:57.160
<v Speaker 1>well lived and for all that you gave us for

0:39:57.200 --> 0:40:03.920
<v Speaker 1>this many years. And I appreciate you the listener indulging

0:40:04.920 --> 0:40:07.520
<v Speaker 1>Lauren and I for doing this special episode today for

0:40:07.600 --> 0:40:11.759
<v Speaker 1>Lynn Goodman. Truly appreciate it. And we will talk to

0:40:11.800 --> 0:40:14.319
<v Speaker 1>you next time because we have a lot more to

0:40:14.360 --> 0:40:17.480
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0:40:20.160 --> 0:40:22.799
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0:40:22.800 --> 0:40:23.439
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